Re: Jim Lauderdale Tape Offer
Junior asked, Dave replied: Bill, just to refresh my memory, you were recommending Planet of Love as the best Lauderdale album, right? Dear lord, no...it's Pretty Close to the Truth by two furlongs (getting ready for the Derby). One of my fave alt.country records ever. Well I turned on to JL with PRETTY CLOSE TO THE TRUTH, and there are more individual songs on it that belong with his best than PLANET OF LOVE, but POL's a twangier record FWIW. It's also out of print though, and tough to find, while PRETTY CLOSE can still be found here and there. I'd say it's PRETTY CLOSE...but it's pretty closer than Dave puts it. *Two furlongs*?! Shoot, isn't 6 or 7 furlongs a standard race length below a mile or a mile and an eighth? I say PRETTY CLOSE by a length, and POL made a nice stretch run to make it a race. g b.s.
Jim Lauderdale Tapes songs
Here's the individual songs and artists on the tapes that Jerald Corder made up, in case you're interested. Bill, Here is the song information for all three tapes in case anyone wants to know what is on them beforehand. Jerald What Am I Waiting For (Town South of Bakersfield) Stay Out of My Arms (CBS unreleased) Lucky 13 (CBS unreleased) Maybe (Planet of Love) I Wasn't Fooling Around Planet of Love King of Broken Hearts I'm on your Side (Pretty Close To The Truth) Why Do I Love You Divide and Conquer Run Like You Don't Trust Me Three Way Conversation This Is The Big Time Every Second Counts (Every Second Counts) That's Not the Way It Works Life By Numbers (Persimmons) Do You Like It Please Pardon Me Some Things Are Too Good To Last Had A Little Time Goodbye Song (Whisper) Whisper Take Me Down A Path She Used To Say That To Me It's Hard To Keep A Secret Anymore I'll Lead You Home Halfway Down (Promo) Gonna Get A Life (Promo) We're Gone (Whisper) Covers Side A Kelly Willis - I'll Try Again Jann Browne - Where The Sidewalk Ends Shelby Lynne - Stop Me Heather Myles - Stay Out Of My Arms Dave Edmunds - Halfway Down Kelly Willis - Not Afraid Of The Dark George Strait - King Of Broken Hearts Kelly Willis - I Know Better Patty Loveless - Halfway Down George Strait - Where The Sidewalk Ends Mark Chestnut - Gonna Get A Life Jon Randall - What You Don't Know Mandy Barnett - Maybe Side B Mandy Barnett - Planet Of Love George Strait - Do The Right Thing Buddy Miller - Hold On My Love Buddy Miller - Hole In My Head Patty Loveless - You Don't Seem To Miss Me Clay Blaker - It's Only Cause You're Lonely Joy Lynn White - It's Better This Way Buddy Miller - Love In The Ruins Patty Loveless - I Miss Who I Was (With You) Clay Blaker - Anyway Joy Lynn White - Try Not To Be So Lonely Buddy Miller - Love Snuck Up On Me Patty Loveless - To Feel That Way Clay Blaker - I May Be A Fool Tape 2 Side A George Strait - One Of You Scott Joss - Doin' Time In Bakersfield Joy Lynn White - Why Do I Love You Deryl Dodd - It's Only Cause You're Lonely Kathy Mattea - I'm On Your Side Del Reeves - Diesel, Diesel, Diesel George Strait - What Do You Say To That Scott Joss - Stay Out Of My Arms Gary Allan - I Wake Up Screaming Dawn Sears - Planet Of Love George Strait - We Really Shouldn't Be Doing This Mark Chestnut - The King Of Broken Hearts Rick Trevino - She Used To Say That To Me Side B George Strait - I Wasn't Fooling Around Gary Allan - Forever And A Day Mark Chestnut - I May Be A Fool George Strait - Stay Out Of My Arms Dixie Chicks - Planet Of Love Vince Gill - Sparkle Doug Supernaw - She Never Looks Back Cicadas - Nothing Perfect Stranger - It's Up To You Bruce Robison - I Dream Too George Strait - Nobody Has To Get Hurt George Strait - What Am I Waiting For
Re: Rappin' Radney
Don Yates replied to Darren Stout: Radney's new album isn't going to be "CMT kaka". I have only heard one song off of the album and it is worth the price of the disc alone. His new album isn't going to be promoted country radio either from what I have heard. That's not surprising, 'cuz it sounds like he's left country music behind -- it's Radney's "adult rock" record, and no doubt the plans are to work it to AAA radio. My thoughts exactly, the more I hear the record. I think he's moving over over to that market since his last record didn't do too much sales wise, did it? Too bad because I think LABOR OF LOVE's his best record- plenty twangy, and a must for any Kim Richey fans out there. (She's on 5 or 6 tracks prominently) And the new songs sounded pretty darn good in a miserable dourpour at Stubb's the Thursday of SXSW- better than I expected, FWIW. Who knows, they might even like it -- it's certainly bland enough. I've tried to listen to it a coupla times, and have yet to find a memorable tune. It definitely has that nondescript, vaguely rootsy sound favored by the adult rock crowd, and there's even a duet with the equally nondescript Abra Moore. I'm not sure if I'm the one to ask about it though, 'cuz most music of that ilk bores me -- as rock music, it's too tame, too polite, and too sterile, and as roots music it's pretty rootless.--don. Well, I'm not as taken with the sound of the new record as the old ones, but if Radney finds success in the adult rock market,more power to him. He's still got the look, anyhow. g b.s. n.p. Lee Ann Womack s/t
Re: Albini Rant
By popular demand... The Problem With Music by Steve Albini excerpted from Baffler No. 5 Whenever I talk to a band who are about to sign with a major label, I always end up thinking of them in a particular context. I imagine a trench, about four feet wide and five feet deep, maybe sixty yards long, filled with runny, decaying shit. I imagine these people, some of them good friends, some of them barely acquaintances, at one end of this trench. I also imagine a faceless industry lackey at the other end, holding a fountain pen and a contract waiting to be signed. Nobody can see what's printed on the contract. It's too far away, and besides, the shit stench is making everybody's eyes water. The lackey shouts to everybody that the first one to swim the trench gets to sign the contract. Everybody dives in the trench and they struggle furiously to get to the other end. Two people arrive simultaneously and begin wrestling furiously, clawing each other and dunking each other under the shit. Eventually, one of them capitulates, and there's only one contestant left. He reaches for the pen, but the Lackey says, "Actually, I think you need a little more development. Swim it again, please. Backstroke." And he does, of course. I. AR Scouts Every major label involved in the hunt for new bands now has on staff a high-profile point man, an "AR" rep who can present a comfortable face to any prospective band. The initials stand for "Artist and Repertoire," because historically, the AR staff would select artists to record music that they had also selected, out of an available pool of each. This is still the case, though not openly. These guys are universally young [about the same age as the bands being wooed], and nowadays they always have some obvious underground rock credibility flag they can wave. Lyle Preslar, former guitarist for Minor Threat, is one of them. Terry Tolkin, former NY independent booking agent and assistant manager at Touch and Go is one of them. Al Smith, former soundman at CBGB is one of them. Mike Gitter, former editor of XXX fanzine and contributor to Rip, Kerrang and other lowbrow rags is one of them. Many of the annoying turds who used to staff college radio stations are in their ranks as well. There are several reasons AR scouts are always young. The explanation usually copped-to is that the scout will be "hip" to the current musical "scene." A more important reason is that the bands will intuitively trust someone they think is a peer, and who speaks fondly of the same formative rock and roll experiences. The AR person is the first person to make contact with the band, and as such is the first person to promise them the moon. Who better to promise them the moon than an idealistic young turk who expects to be calling the shots in a few years, and who has had no previous experience with a big record company. Hell, he's as naive as the band he's duping. When he tells them no one will interfere in their creative process, he probably even believes it. When he sits down with the band for the first time, over a plate of angel hair pasta, he can tell them with all sincerity that when they sign with company X, they're really signing with him and he's on their side. Remember that great, gig I saw you at in '85? Didn't we have a blast. By now all rock bands are wise enough to be suspicious of music industry scum. There is a pervasive caricature in popular culture of a portly, middle aged ex-hipster talking a mile-a-minute, using outdated jargon and calling everybody "baby." After meeting "their" AR guy, the band will say to themselves and everyone else, "He's not like a record company guy at all! He's like one of us." And they will be right. That's one of the reasons he was hired. These AR guys are not allowed to write contracts. What they do is present the band with a letter of intent, or "deal memo," which loosely states some terms, and affirms that the band will sign with the label once a contract has been agreed on. The spookiest thing about this harmless sounding little "memo," is that it is, for all legal purposes, a binding document. That is, once the
(KC local) James McMurtry/Hadacol in KC 4/27
Somebody (John Flippo?) wrote to the list yesterday asking if anybody was going to this show tonight. It looks like I am. Write me off-list if you're still thinking about going. b.s.
Re: V-Roys
Jon Weisberger observed: I think the credit belongs to the band. I liked their first record better than the second. I think the second one is more "produced" than the first. The first album has more of a live feel to it. That's what those slicksters of the Nashville machine will do to you. Heh. Yeah, I hear one of those slicksters has stooped to playing bluegrass these days. What's that stuff got to do with the V-Roys? b.s.
Re: clip: Salon reviews Gourds...
Dave Purcell wrote and clipped: ...and there's a Postcard mention??? Of course, she got it wrong -- Postcard is the Tupelo family list, but nonetheless, it's weird to see it come up in a review. The Gourds "Ghosts of Hallelujah" ALLEGRO MUSIC BY MEREDITH OCHS | If you read Postcard, the alternative- country Internet discussion group, on the right day, you might walk away with the impression that the Gourds are the second coming of Christ I'd been wondering where Matt Cook was. Thanks Dave- another mystery solved. b.s.
Clip- June Carter Cash
Tuesday April 27 9:45 AM ET June Carter Cash's Turn In The 'Ring' By Dean Goodman LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Many family gatherings can be wretched experiences, but when the members of country music's extended Carter clan get together it is pure harmony. More than 70 years after her mother achieved superstar fame as one-third of the Carter Family, June Carter Cash keeps the country-folk tradition alive with fireside sing-alongs at the Hendersonville, Tennessee, estate she shares with her husband, singer Johnny Cash. Sessions may include various children and grandchildren, former sons-in-law such as country singers Marty Stuart and Rodney Crowell, and longtime family friends. Strumming her trusty autoharp, June may perform ``Ring of Fire,'' the hit song she co-wrote for her husband, or she may lead everyone through Carter Family evergreens such as ``Wabash Cannonball'' or ``Will The Circle Be Unbroken.'' For years family and friends urged her to do an album, but her top priority always has been family, specifically traveling the world with her husband. But she would always perform a couple of songs such as ``Jackson,'' the duet for which they won a Grammy in 1968, and the poignant ``Far Side Banks of Jordan.'' ``I've been walking just far enough behind John for him to think that he was way out in front,'' June, 69, told Reuters in an interview. ``Women, if they've got any sense, will do that.'' JUNE'S TURN IN THE 'RING' But with Johnny Cash, 67, sidelined indefinitely battling a rare degenerative disease, he stepped up the pressure on June to make an album. She did release a solo album, ``Appalachian Pride,'' in the mid-'70s but says Columbia pressed barely 25,000 copies and it quickly disappeared from shops. ``He said to me, 'I want you to do this album. If you can knock me out with something you do every day, then you need to do this,''' June said. ``I get feeling better if I know I've done something that's knocked Johnny out.'' The result is ``Press On'' (Small Hairy Dog/Risk Records), which June recorded in three days at home with family and friends. If it sounds rough, that was the whole point. She took requests and sang the songs by heart. Most were recorded in one take and she did not re-dub her voice, despite claiming to have had a bad cold at the time. ``Marty Stuart said to me, 'Why don't you sing that one Carter Family song for me that I love so much, 'Diamonds in the Rough?' And I said, 'Sure I'll be glad to do that for you,''' she recalled. ``I didn't even know that was going to be a record. I sang it one time and didn't even put the last verse in there, and they said, 'That's it! That's it!' That was the first record we cut.'' CARTER FAMILY LEGACY Her mother Maybelle, Aunt Sara and Uncle A.P. Carter would be proud. From their base in Maces Spring, Virginia, the Carter Family launched the modern era of country music in 1927 by selling millions of records and touring incessantly. They recorded more than 250 songs in their 15-year career. Some, which will start going into the public domain soon, have been covered by the likes of Roy Acuff, Emmylou Harris, Linda Ronstadt and Joan Baez. ``My mother still sends me money from the grave that I'm thankful for, and my uncle and my aunt,'' June said. ``It's quite a bit of money, it's amazing really.'' The three children of A.P. and Sara Carter still run weekly music events at nearby Hiltons, Virginia, and June owns the house that her father, Ezra, built for his family. ``Press On'' also offers exhaustive liner notes and more than two dozen photos of June and her family and friends from over the years. ``It was like they let me write a book,'' she said. ``People are going to know me better.'' June, the middle of three sisters, has been in showbiz all her life. She first performed with the Carter Family, then with her mother and sisters, Helen and Anita, after the group broke up. The acknowledged family jokester, she also did comedy sketches. One who listened to their radio shows was J.R. Cash, an Arkansas boy who later won world renown as Johnny Cash. JOHNNY AND JUNE But the paths of Johnny and June did not cross until the early 1960s, when she joined his touring revue and was aghast at his prodigious use of alcohol and methamphetamines. She cleaned him up (temporarily) and they were wed -- his second, her third marriage -- in 1968. The union has resulted in a son, John Carter Cash, who co-produced ``Press On.'' Their extended family consists of seven children, 13 grandchildren and one great-grandson. Helen died last year and Anita has been in a hospital for six months battling complications from rheumatoid arthritis. Among the songs on ``Press On'' is ``Ring of Fire,'' which June sings with banjo and guitar accompaniment. First cut by Anita as a folk song, it was recorded with Mariachi horns by Cash in 1963 and topped the country charts for seven
Elastica news
No twang, but an Elastica news update at the NME site: http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19990327130253news.html b.s.
Bad Company quote, URL
Saw this quote in a Rolling Stone bit on the band's new reunion tour. My quote of the week. "The original Bad Company was the soundtrack to a lot of people's lives," says Rodgers. "I mean, if you listen to some of the music, a lot of the music, actually, it could be said that Bad Company is responsible for the population explosion during the Seventies, because so many kids were conceived to 'Feel Like Making Love.'" Complete story at: http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/news/text/newsarticle.asp?afl=mnewNewsID=7530ArtistID=466origin=news b.s.
Re: questions, news and a rave
Jim Caliguiri asked: I'm pretty sure that it's been mentioned here, but what's the general opinion on the new Fountains of Wayne CD? I though there were a couple of pretty good tunes in the Cheap Trick/Cars pop/rock vein. My opinion of UTOPIA PARKWAY is that it's not as immediately accessible and catchy as their fab first record, but it sounds better with each repeat listening. It's more "produced' than the first record, and there's a lot of 70's pop references here that are done right rather than sketchily. g The lyrics reward close repeated listens and are as clever and funny as you'll find. I'm very jazzed on the record, and it's right there with the best new pop this year. b.s. n.p. Tennessee Ernie Ford SIXTEEN TONS
Re: BR5-49
Professor "not Longhair" Barnard wrote: That was a former student, Don. I'm surprised she didn't say "Professor Barnard," which is even more irritating g. File this tidbit away kids...g b.s.
Re: Dwight Best of
Neal observed: I read in the Dallas paper yesterday that Dwight's version of "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (from that Gap commercial) will appear on his new best of collection. Funny isn't it, that a song used exclusively for a TV commericial (thus far) falls under the category of "best of." Strikes me as pretty common that they'll tack on a new, typically unworthy track onto an artist's best-of release anymore. What I want to know is what tracks made this best of. I'm usually a lot more cheesed about what makes it and what doesn't than I am the odd new tune. Doncha think they'll snag a few sales with that hot new soundbite "single"? I bet they do. b.s. who bets "Two Doors Down" or "Lonesome Road" ain't gonna make that best of, darn it. n.p. Neutral Milk Hotel IN THE AEROPLANE...
Re: Updates
Todd Larson wrote: But the larger point for me, to say it one more time, is the notion of blame. The conversations here (and Mr. Anonymous' assertion that sucky bands are a threat to the roots music movement) is like a bunch of restaurant critics suggesting that the sucky Malaysian restaurant should shut down before they ruin everyone's taste for the good stuff... I'm getting sort of lost in these restaurant analogies. g I'm not convinced that Anonymous' opinion on this, as relayed by Mark Rubin, is valid. IMO, if a sucky band prevents another more worthwhile band from getting signed/played, I think the music public is going to figure that out in time. Hopefully those more worthwhile guys kept their day jobs and kept practicing. And as Todd said: This kind of thinking smacks of an elitism that I can't tolerate -- as if the "sucky" bands are doing something they shouldn't be allowed to do, or are actually harming the bands a certain cogniscenti deem to be "real" (read, band with chops, bands that are sincere, bands that write "good" songs, etc. ) If you think a band sucks, fine, but don't blame them for turning off audiences from stuff you happen to like better. While I can't argue that those unfamiliar with a genre will perhaps be repelled by a bad band, I expect that folks who are interested and curious about music are gonna be able to sort the wheat from the chaff, and not quit eating bread if they get a bad loaf. (Uh oh, that food analogy again) Those that aren't aren't likely to be doing very much more than buying some of the music they hear on the radio anyway. As far as "the roots music movement" is concerned, there's just too many styles of music under the alt-country big tent to make the argument fly for me, which is why I don't think comparing it to bluegrass is particularly apt. Haven't many of the "best" alt-country acts taken pains to distance themselves from the label anyway? TW -- have any of you popsters out there seen Jason Faulkner? Thinking about checking it out tonight, and hoping it won't turn me off from pop altogether Well, I've read very good things about his new record, but I didn't care all that much for the first one, but I've never seen him, so my advice to you is to avoid eating Malaysian food at that terrible place I've heard about, though I wouldn't counsel you to avoid that kind of food altogether. g b.s. n.p. Hillman And Pederson BAKERSFIELD BOUND
Re: Clip: Scott Hendricks post-G*rth
Jon J. clipped, I snipped: Scott Hendricks Ironically, Hendricks had every reason to think that he and Brooks might get along. "I mistakenly believed that there was something common there because we grew up 50 miles from each other," he remembers. "We used to play each other's high school in sports, and we went to the same agricultural college. This just kind of tickled me. I'm sure there's still a strong ag program there, but I hadn't heard Oklahoma State referred to as an "agricultural college" since it was Oklahoma AM, years ago, long before Hendricks and the ball-eater were attending classes. "My first meeting with Garth, I said, `I'll never lie to you or kick you under the table. I want to be able to have the kind of relationship where we can be truthful with each other.' I found he didn't like for me to be truthful." Well, Garth's human after all, eh? g b.s. n.p. Mandy Barnett I'VE GOT A RIGHT TO CRY
Re: Updates
Don Yates wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, M Rubin wrote: Just added an essay on the "Alt.Country" showings at the recent SXSW conference on my homepages, in case anyone was interested. http://markrubin.com Y'all might do well to check out that provocative li'l essay. It brings up the same kind of troublesome issues surrounding alt-country that we've dealt with here from time to time. Too bad the writer (and no, it's not meg) didn't name names.--don Well, yeah, it is too bad that the writer didn't name names, and while it might not have seen print otherwise, it's too bad we don't know who wrote it. There's some stuff there that I'd like to hear specifics on. I saw a couple of showcases with some stuff I didn't care for, but by and large I enjoyed myself. Where was this guy? And y'know, he might not have seen fit to name names, but we could... Like I said about pop music last week, there's always a lot more mediocre or worse bands than good or great ones. Do those bands, in whatever genre, drag that style of music down for the other people playing it? What makes "the roots music movement" different? Anonymous asserts: The saddest part is the proliferation of these dime a dozen Americana bands is what killing the whole roots music movement. The pie is only so big for musicians, clubs, labels, and the more slices there are the less there is for the folks who really love this music and deserve an opportunity to make a living playing it. So is this really true? And if so, why more so for this music than any other, where nobody mentions how the lesser-quality bands are spoiling it for everybody else? b.s.
Clip- Music Scene
From this week's Riverfront Times. Does anybody remember this show or seen these vids? It sounds too cool. MAKING THE SCENE BY ROBERT HUNT Call it laziness, call it spring fever, call it a bad dose of pop culture clouding my senses, but the stacks of new video releases were getting even higher than usual. Some were worth my attention; some were worse than you can imagine (Spring Break Uncensored, which advertises itself as Better than Jerry Springer, Howard Stern and MTV combined, or the sexiest action movie of the year, Major Rock, fighting for truth, justice and the American babes!), but I ignored the good and the bad alike. I had allowed myself to be distracted obsessed? by a tiny piece of pop history. More specifically, I was watching Bobby Sherman singing Little Woman to a foot-tall dancing woman. Those Seijun Suzuki reissues would have to wait; I was hypnotized by a short-lived, almost forgotten TV series, by the shotgun marriage of TV variety shows and Woodstock. For a few brief days, I was hooked on Music Scene. Music Scene, which called itself a super concert of the worlds best music, premiered in September 1969 the same TV season that saw the first episodes of The Brady Bunch, Room 222, The Bill Cosby Show (the one where he played a gym teacher), The Bold Ones, Then Came Bronson, Brackens World and (a glimmer of light in the vast wasteland) My World and Welcome to It and staked a claim at the bottom of the ratings for four months before finally being put out its misery. Though Harlan Ellison, whose L.A. Free Press column The Glass Teat is an indispensable guide to TV during the Nixon years, had kind words for Music Scene (Its so good the scythewielder of TV attrition will certainly mow it down forthwith, he warned), a recent look at a few episodes released by MPI Home Video suggests that the show was doomed from the start, a schizophrenic shot at creating a self-consciously hip TV show at a time when the mediums definition of hipness was the bikini-clad dancers on Laugh-In (which, incidentally, ran opposite Music Scene). It should have been easy: Take a popular standup comedian, David Steinberg; add a handful of young comic performers (including a pre-Laugh-In Lily Tomlin) to perform brief sketches; bring on a handful of musical acts ranging from Isaac Hayes to the Everly Brothers, from Janis Joplin to Eydie Gorme; and wrap the whole thing around the Billboard Top 10 list for the week. Watching the occasionally delightful, occasionally excruciating but almost always interesting episodes of Music Scene 30 years after they first aired, its rapid path to self-destruction is easy to chart. First came the obvious contradiction of trying to showcase new rock music while the charts were topped by the likes of Sugar, Sugar (one episode offers a quirky gospel arrangement of the Archies bubble-gum hit, which held the No. 1 spot the entire month of the series premiere) and aforementioned teen idol Sherman (who appears five times on the eight tapes, once to the obvious disgust of host Steinberg). It certainly couldnt have helped that ABC positioned the show against two ratings champs, Laugh-In and Gunsmoke, or that it was an irregular 45 minutes long, part of a network experiment. By late October, the show had recruited the then-controversial Tommy Smothers to offer his counterculture imprimatur while muttering a few staggeringly unfunny Nixon jokes in a stony haze. (This episode also features one of the strangest musical moments: Merle Haggard singing Okie from Muskogee on a dark front-porch set complete with hound dog that slowly turns out to be completely surrounded by a hundred or so small flags.) By the final episode which includes one of the brightest moments in the series, an obviously unrehearsed interview with Groucho Marx the comedy troupe has been disbanded and the Billboard chart ignored, and a resigned Steinberg, with just a hint of bitterness, signs off. Each of the eight tapes released by MPI includes a complete episode, a half-dozen-or-so extra musical performances (the producers reportedly taped extra performances so that they could adapt each show to the changes in the Billboard chart) and one of a series of commercial spots featuring the Rolling Stones (though, curiously, neither the Stones nor Howard Hesseman, who appears in one of the ads with them, was ever on the series). The musical performances are uneven, of course, from the bland Gary Puckett to a sloppy but lively Sly and the Family Stone, from a lip-synched Three Dog Night turning Elis Coming into an unintentionally hysterical comedy sketch to a typically laid-back Roger Miller obligingly walking through a goofy cartoon set singing King of the Road, but as cultural relics of the tail end of the 60s, theyre priceless. MPI
Re: Radney Foster
Jeff Weiss wrote: At 11:43 AM 4/22/99 EDT, you wrote: Saw that Radney is playing in NYC next week. Several questions come to mind: -is this in support of a new album? -is this an industry gig to get re-signed? yes and he's on Arista and the record is coming out 5/18. -any idea who his band is? nope but his brief performance at Stubbs, cust short by the worst f'n rain I have ever been caught in, was the highlight of my SXSW '99 experience. He really was good, wasn't he? He'd have had to have been to get me to stand out there with y'all in that stuff. g Not that I'm surprised, but the new record is, um, different from anything much he's done solo or with Bill Lloyd. I found a promo copy of it at Amoeba in SF last fall, and I'm relieved that it's not gonna be a collectors item. Honest. b.s.
KC area festival (was Re: MN bluegrass/old-time festival)
Just an excuse to piggy-back onto Jon's festival heads-up with a URL for one in the KC area, in just two weeks: http://www.santafetrails.org/index.html The Santa Fe Trails Bluegrass Festival will feature The Del McCoury Band (Friday night 5/7) and Ricky Skaggs. (Saturday night 5/8) The Freight Hoppers will play both nights. b.s.
Re: Single Most Influential 20th Century Pop Musician
lance davis wrote: Or, you could say Louis Jordan, who may qualify as the 20th Century's most influential performer that most people tend to forget. His impact in the black community was especially remarkable, and the list of performers who consider him a PRIMARY influence include: Ray Charles, Chuck Berry, BB King, James Brown, and Nat Cole. I believe he had 17 number one hits between 1947 and the birth of rock 'n' roll, and it was his misfortune to be black at a time when blacks were rarely able to translate their influence into dollars and cents. Louis Jordan is THE link between the swing music of the '30's and the rock 'n' roll of the '50's. Was it jazz? Was it RB? Was it really just rock 'n' roll? Whatever you wanna call it, his jumpin music has stood the test of time even if his name hasn't. Amen, Lance. And Louis Jordan's not forgotten in these parts, at least not when the best, most consistent local public radio show for a number of years, "The Saturday Night Fish Fry", begins every show with that song. (On both Friday and Saturday nights) Still, I think you've managed to merge two long threads into "the single most criminally underrecognized influential 20th century pop musician." Good job! g b.s. n.p. Love Nut BALTIMUCHO!
Re: Wilco @ Pearl Street
Tom Stoodley noted in response to Kevin Fredette's observation: Maybe Tweedy's getting road burnout, but for most of the evening, he looked like he'd rather be almost anywhere but onstage. I know life on tour can be a drag, but am I expecting too much when I think a performer should at least try to look like they're having a good time? He did look pretty tired. I'm willing to write that off as a by-product of the strange zigzags the East Coast swing is taking, which necessitate a lot more road time than might otherwise be necessary. Joe Gracey replied: I can't recall one time in my life when the road hassles spilled over onto our stage performance. After all, that's where it all becomes worthwhile. I'd say it sounds more like Tweedy just doesn't like to perform much, or he'd snap out of it and enjoy himself. and Chad Cosper noted: thinking about all of the Wilco and UT shows I have seen, I began to wonder how much of this is posturing. He seemed to really be enjoying himself onstage with UT and on the AM tour, but beginning with Being There, he seems to have become the disenchanted rock star. The issue of what kind of performance and stage demeanor a performer "owes" an audience and their best presentation of their work is an important one to me. I've heard some bad stories about Tweedy's petulant stage demeanor, though I've never seen it myself. But how the audience's bad behavior affects the performance needs to be taken into account. At the recent Steve Earle/Del McCoury Band show, Steve got into it with the apparently drunken guy who kept shouting for "Copperhead Road". Earle worked it into his performance (sort of annoyingly to me-I couldn't hear him in front but apparently Earle could), staring at the guy during songs, walking to that side of the stage away from the action, refusing to just let it go. Finally he had to let the guy have it "did you really think I wasn't gonna play this you stupid %^$#@!?" but Tom had previously said to Kevin's observation: He finally broke out of his funk when he got pissed off at a couple of drunks in the front row. They wanted him to speed up "New Madrid", so he deliberately slowed it down to spite them. The rest of the audience got a kick out of it, and it was the most engaged I'd seen Tweedy all evening. I'm glad he said something to them; they'd been pretty obnoxious throughout the show. (From what I could tell, they'd driven down from Ottowa and presumably are following the band for a few shows at least.) Jumped up on stage to dance during "Hesitating Beauty", tried to put a hat on Jeff's head while he was playing (which he did *not* appreciate), pestered Jay to smoke more, threw t-shirts up on the stage...I'm glad they enjoy the band, but there's a fine line between being a fan and being a nuisance. Did anyone see why the security guy dove at one of them from across the stage during the encore? I think he was confiscating recording gear, but there were a couple of people in the way and I couldn't clearly see what was going on. Tweedy actually stopped the song completely: "You know, I don't care how fucking far you drove to see us. You don't give the band directions." And really, for me, that sort of sums it up. Abstaining Tom caught these details about these guys, and I wonder how much patience on-the-wagon Tweedy needed to have with these obnoxious idiots. If the club can't take steps to quiet, or remove drunken-stupid patrons who are disrupting the performance, I can't blame the performer for getting pissed-off enough about it to "break character", so to speak. b.s.
Re: Hey KC? Frogpond?
you wrote: Just heard a song by Frogpond on bravenewworld.net and it was really something special in a twangless, indie pop sort of way. Anyone know anything about 'em? Cantwell? Do you dip in this part of the local-music pool? Wowee. I love when this happens. I've never seen 'em Neal. Here's some info from the local music scene site: Frogpond Members: Heidi Phillips - Vocals, Guitars Justine Volpe - Bass, Vocals Billy Johnson - Drums Website: http://home.earthlink.net/~sjbentley/ Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact/Booking: Columbia Recording artists Frogpond was formed nearly five years ago in Warrensburg, MO. Heidi Phillips created the band as a way to explore her emotional and deeply personal music. After releasing their first recorded offering (the hard to find 2%) they came to the attention of R.E.M.'s Mike Mills, who asked them to play the after-party for the final stop of the Monster tour in Athens, GA. From there, Frogpond was picked up by Tri-Star Music. (A division of Sony Music, which has since merged with Columbia Records). To record their major-label debut, Frogpond asked Everclear's Art Alexakis to produce the album. Recorded at Butch Vig's (Garbage) Smart Studios, the 12 song result Count to Ten landed Frogpond rave reviews in the music press both home and abroad. The supporting tour landed Frogpond shows with such acts as Nada Surf, No Doubt, Pansy Division, and more. (Kansas City pop favorites, TV Fifty joined the last legs of the tour, creating a truly amazing live show). Frogpond is currently finishing up their self-titled follow-up to Count to Ten, which should be available in early 1999. Former members of Frogpond include Tawni Freeland (The Glitter Kicks) and Kristie Stremel (Exit 159)
Re: Clip-Mandy Barnett
Geff King wrote: On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, William F. Silvers wrote: Mandy Barnett Has No Tears in Her Beer Three years ago, when she was just twenty years old, Mandy Barnett was prepared to shake the foundations of country music with the release of her self-titled debut album. With a powerful voice of stunning intensity and precision that seemed to be channeling both Patsy Cline and Loretta Lynn, OHHH! HE SAID IT!! HE SAID IT FORTY LASHES - No, FIFTY. Now Geff, weren't me that channelled, er, said it. g The interview was the good stuff, the rest a turkey shoot. b.s. n.p. Stacey Dean Campbell HURT CITY
Clip-Mandy Barnett
Mandy Barnett Has No Tears in Her Beer Three years ago, when she was just twenty years old, Mandy Barnett was prepared to shake the foundations of country music with the release of her self-titled debut album. With a powerful voice of stunning intensity and precision that seemed to be channeling both Patsy Cline and Loretta Lynn, Mandy was declared the Next Big Thing in country music. But before the first clap could hit, her thunder was immediately calmed by the Next Bigger Thing, the thirteen-year-old LeAnn Rimes. Now she's back, and this time Barnett's a force to be reckoned with. With a legendary producer on board and a remarkable, nostalgic wonder of an album, I've Got a Right to Cry, Mandy proves she doesn't care what Nashville thinks. Reintroducing the singer to Nashville is the late, great Owen Bradley, legendary producer of Patsy Cline and Loretta Lynn. Widely credited for the growth of the Nashville sound, Owen helped to shape Mandy's career, grounding her in the traditional golden days and ways of country's past. With Owen's brother, Harold, and nephew, Bobby, Mandy consulted notes left behind by Owen to finish the album. And now, with the surefire backing power of nine elderly gents that sound like the Grand Ole Opry incarnate but look like Lawrence Welk's orchestra, the cigarette-smoking, beer-swilling, twenty-three-year-old beauty is heralding a return to country music's good old days and ready to give Nashville a good slap upside the head. Your songs definitely conjure up an era when the likes of Hank Williams and Patsy Cline dominated the country music circuit. Who inspires you musically? I've had several musical influences. I started out in, being from the south with southern gospel music, singing in the church, and a lot of the singing groups from the fifties, like the Blackwood Brothers and the Stamps and different groups like that. Then, later on, I got into Patsy Cline, Jim Reeves, Brenda Lee, and Wilma Burgess. To put it in a nutshell, the Nashville sound has been one of the biggest influences on my life and on my music, and not just Patsy Cline. When I say the Nashville sound, I mean from Patsy Cline to Ernest Tubb to Conway Twitty. The thing about the Nashville sound is it's a perfect blend of pop standards and country. So I listened a lot to Ella Fitzgerald and that kind of thing. And some swing. You make a striking image fronting a gang of older musicians. What's your all-male band like? They're great! They're the nicest guys I've ever known. And there's some of them I've worked with for years and years. There's one guy in the band, Jason Bells. We played shows together when we were about nine and ten years old. Incredible banjo player, incredible rhythm player. And Harold Bradley, who co-produced the record with me, and [drummer] Buddy Harman [Cline, Johnny Cash, Roger Miller] ... They're two living legends. Owen Bradley was responsible for some of country's biggest hits. How did he help shape your music? The thing that was just so inspiring about Owen was that he just picked such great songs, and he just really knew how to get inside of you and pick the right kind of songs for you and the right kind of arrangement. He was all in it to make you sound like you're supposed to sound, to find the perfect sound for you. What is the most important thing you learned from him? Always to do great songs no matter what people are doing, no matter what trends there are, no matter what gimmicks people have. Always do quality music. How do you pick songs that you want to sing? Before Owen helped, but does the label select the songs now? No, I usually pick most of the songs and when we were doing the record, I brought a lot of songs to the table. I always had a good ear for what I can sing -- it's just finding it. I've gone down to the archives at the Country Music Hall of Fame, and I've gone to record stores, and I've gone to publishing companies and looked at their older catalogs. Because, in Nashville, really what I'm doing isn't exactly what's popular right now, so the writers aren't writing a slew of songs that sound like "I've Got a Right to Cry." I have to go back a little bit. I try not to find songs that have been cut to death, songs that are so obvious. I try to find songs that ... well, there are some of those album cuts that really didn't maybe have a chance, or if they were hits, it was years and years ago, and they haven't been heard from since. You played the role of Patsy Cline for over two years in the musical tribute Always ... Patsy Cline. Are the comparisons to her getting burdensome? No. I think that when people tell me that I sound similar to Patsy Cline that they can tell that I've been influenced by her, and it's true -- I have been influenced by her tremendously, but I'm not a Patsy Cline imitator. I'm pretty much just doing what
You Am I (was Re: Underappreciated (long))
Chris Hill wrote re Steve Kirsch's note: --You Am I--"Hi Fi Way"--the second album by these Aussies, where they turn down the Stooges, turn up The Jam and get spectacular results. Next to Afghan Whigs Curve, THE best concert I saw last year. The lead singer has a charisma that controls a crowd like none I've seen, and the band's energy is palpable. I kick myself for the number of their Seattle shows I've missed, and vow it'll never happen again. Amazing show. I tend to prefer the third album, _Hourly, Daily_ and the 4th, _#4 Record_, to their rawer first two. I picked up HI FI WAY a couple of years ago and it didn't do much for me- I resold it. Late last year I stumbled over a copy of You Am I's most recent #4 RECORD, and it's great. It would certainly been one of my top 10 pop records last year if I'd heard it longer. HOURLY, DAILY's out of print, but I managed to locate a copy on ther net and I'm hoping it'll be in today's mail. Roomie Dave went out and bought a copy of HI FI WAY, and while it's not the equal of the new record, it's much better than I remembered. b.s. n.p. Mandy Barnett I'VE GOT A RIGHT TO CRY
Re: criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s
Jake London asked: Well, I was laying in bed last night struggling to fall asleep when it dawned on me that this would be a good thread to throw out to the list, given that the '90s are almost over, and people on this listserve seem to love making lists. Hey, I resemble that remark. What are the 5 most criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s? Seems to me like you could probably look at any P2 best of the year list and pick out likely targets pretty fast.Me, I'd start with Mike Ireland Holler's LEARNING HOW TO LIVE. Sure, it was big *here*, but. Then I'd add Cheri Knight's THE KNITTER, which sold even fewer copies last I heard. (Sure the recent one's better, but just sayin') But sales alone probably isn't the best criteria. I'd add the Posies FROSTING ON THE BEATER, dismissed by too many pop critics and fans as a betrayal of the pure Hollies-clone pop of DEAR 23, but in fact an even better record that successfully merged the early 90's guitar sounds (you know, "before grunge became an epithet" as Tom Krueger once said) from up your way with the Posies exemplary melodies and harmonies. It's always seemed to me that the Blood Oranges never really got their due, despite "our" appreciation of them. All the records are at least very good, but THE CRYING TREE should be considered a landmark for whatever you wanna call alternative country the way ANODYNE or STILL FEEL GONE are. And to return to Seattle pop, (sorry) I'm a big fan of Super Deluxe, who are dismissed as sort-of trashy and faux by most folks, but both records, FAMOUS, and VIA SATELLITE deserve more respect Not everything works, but there are tunes on both records that just thrill me. A plain list seems fine to me. But if you're inclined, a paragraph justifying each choice is even better. Or a couple of pages Jake...g b.s.
Frosting On The Beater(was re: criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s)
Jerry Curry wrote, re: my booming of FROSTING... Bill, No more"Can I get a witness?" requests for you. Aw Jerry, c'mon. If we pop-geeks can't close ranks we'll go the way of the dinosaur. g As for _Frosting._, I find the sonic dissonance (along, with the heinous masturbation reference of the title) to be damn near a betrayal of everything I thought the band was about. "heinous"? Shoot, everybody does it Jerry. g That record basically, made me lose a lot of faith in The Posies. Faith, I never ever fully recovered. You and many other people I've heard from, as I said. Funny, we were just talking about this very same subject on the Audities poplist but we could discuss it philosophically. And we can't? The consensus is that the Posies received so much grief about being "uncool" in a town enraptured with grunge, that they altered their sound. It's a real bitch when you dig a type of music that either 1) was never considered "cool" or 2) is now considered passe'. Well, my house-mate Dave's on that list and he sent me some of that. He sent a clip that I thought pretty effectively countered that "consensus", which I unfortunately don't have here at work. Here's a clip from Scott Miller, of Game Theory/Loud Family anonymity, that doesn't exactly speak for me, but says it well: The Posies probably shape my ongoing impression of '90s music more than any other group. I loved Nirvana, but to me most grunge bands seemed kind of purposefully backward-looking--a cross between early seventies Black Sabbath and mid-eighties abrasive hardcore stuff like Big Black. And nothing like "low-fi" or "electronica" or any of the hip-hop variations has struck my ears as being new and innovative. FROSTING ON THE BEATER is to my thinking a state-of-the-art record. It's the benchmark for that ultra-compressed '90s sound, which not everyone loves, but for better or worse nobody ever used to make records that sounded like that because the technology and the know-how just weren't there yet. Which is not to say it's just the production and mixing. They're extremely innovative with their guitar tunings, and the vocal harmonies are very sweet while at the same time having a sort of cinematic pathos to them. All their albums are terrific but that's the one that places them in my perception of history. I miss the Posies and hope to goodness, they one day reform and revisit those heady _Dear 23_ days. Well, I miss 'em too, and if it meant that I was stuck hearing DEAR 23 again, I think I could adjust, he said with tongue squarely in cheek. Sorry Bill, we'll have to chalk this one up to our rather severe "edgy pop" vs "lush pop" asthetic taste differences. Exactly. But we agree plenty too, and it's fun speaking the language. I know I broke off our engagement Jerry, but can't we still be friends? g b.s. n.p. Del McCoury Band- THE FAMILY (sure I finally bought it)
Re: Frosting On The Beater(was re: criminally underappreciated albums of the '90s)
Don Yates wrote: On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, William F. Silvers forwarded this: Here's a clip from Scott Miller, of Game Theory/Loud Family anonymity, that doesn't exactly speak for me, but says it well: Boy, I guess maybe I shoulda stood back just_a_bit further from this maybe? g And nothing like "low-fi" or "electronica" or any of the hip-hop variations has struck my ears as being new and innovative. I *knew* this sentence was a red flag. I didn't edit it out from my clip, though.I'd love to see you and Scott Miller debate it. Coupla pretty smart guys. But I don't hold this sentence up as my feelings on the matter. The guy's wrong. OK, that does it. Power pop has to be one of the most retrogressive rock styles imaginable. Most power pop bands pale in comparison to the old bands they obviously emulate and most often rip-off, the Beatles, Big Star, etc. Well, there's always a lot more mediocre or worse purveyors of whatever form than interesting ones."Retrogressive" or "rip-off" are value-loaded expressions, and it seems you don't place much value on this genre. I mean, aren't (to name just a few) Paul Burch or Wayne Hancock or Dale Watson or the Derailers (or most any bluegrass artist true to that genre) "retrogressive" or "rip-offs" by the same token? It doesn't surprise me that popheads like Scott Miller can't find anything new or innovative in hip hop, or in much anything else it seems besides his own little musical world. What's most hilarious is that *real* pop music left him in the dust decades ago. That's 'cuz -- unlike power poppers -- most folks have no problem appreciating modern black music. Jeez, talk about an insular musical universe -- most popheads act like black music doesn't even exist, or if it does, it's certainly not as "new and innovative" as their pasty-white Beatles imitations. Whatta buncha self-deluded nonsense. Hell, at least the Beatles knew that pop also encompassed black music (one important point that passes most power poppers by). No doubt, the genre is insular. I guess I don't see how that's necessarily a bad thing. I think folks play, or listen to, what pleases them aesthetically. Dismissing musical forms because they don't appeal much to you is a natural, if unadventurous, part of the process. And isn't that what you're doing with "power pop"? But yeah, Miller's been at it for 15-some years, two "different" bands, making records distinguishable from one another more to fans than anybody else. g His statement is pretty ignorant. Whether that's intentional or not I have no idea. As for the Posies, we always thought they were a buncha wussies up here in the NW, even when they pretended to "rock."--don Well, Marie, er, Don g, Mister "Midwest Pussy Boys", (a badge we're now wearing proudly, damn it!) I think the "power pop" genre in general, and the Posies in particular with their sweet, dreamy at times harmonies, invite this sort of macho bluster.And on the other hand folks like Jerry can't forgive 'em for cranking up and abandoning the "wussier" stuff. "Pretended to rock". Oh, whatever...g b.s. n.p. Dan Kibler CAPSULE
Re: RantPowerpop/Rant
Don replied to Jerry: Before I get into the ethnic *purity* arguement, let me address the same-old, tired-ass, application of the "wimp" label to powerpop bands. That's the kind of Bullshit that makes most popgeeks feel some kind of inferiority complex. But they are inferior, aren't they?g--don Oh. Watch him beg off his June payback Jerry, claiming his s/o can't make it. b.s.
Re: Two Things
Jerry Curry wrote: Second, the V-roys opening for Cheap Trick? Holy moly..I can't hardly imagine a better double bill. Silvers, can I get a witness? This relying on me for backup's getting old Jerry...you're not paying enough. g And I'm sure I would co-sign on your assessment of that bill, but the V-Roys have never seen to venture here, the "Heart of America", much to my dismay. In fact, I'm a little surprised that they've agreed to cross the mighty Mississippi for Twangfest, though I'm damn glad they are. The V-Roys are my favorite current-band-I've-never-seen-live, with the Beatifics and your pal Walter Clevenger a close second and third. Geez, is there anybody in the TN/KY/AL/GA/MS area who hasn't had a half-dozen chances (at least) to see these guys? As for Cheap Trick, well, I wish I liked last year's record better, but there's no doubt they'll rock the house. That braided goatee of Rick Neilsen's scares me though. g c'mon, c'mon, b.s. just another MPB p.s. Robbie Fulks and Fear and Whiskey at the Bottleneck in Lawrence tonight. Decent double-bill, eh? bg
Re: speaking of clips
Carl Zimring wrote: http://www.pghcitypaper.com/buzz.htm has an interview with Deliberate Stranger Tom Moran a photo of the band. Nice article, but no Twangfest plug? g Sniffing around that site, I noticed this clip- Monday, April 19 Heather Myles is one country artist who doesn't believe in all that pop-Shania Twain nonsense. And thank goodness for that. Myles, on Highways Honky Tonks (Rounder), also steers clear of saccharine Music Row tendencies. She performs tonight at the A.J. Palumbo Center, Uptown, before John Anderson. I was lucky and saw her at the Continental Club the Friday of SXSW. She was terrific, and I'd not pass up a chance to see her if she was playing in *my* town. Didja say the venue's an arena though? any chance for a HM plug, b.s.
Re: Anna Egge and High Fidelity
CK wrote: Anna Egge is an Austin singer songwriter (via New Mexico and North Dakota) - plays solo acoustic live, a bit more instrumentation on her CDs. She tends to get grouped with folks like Iris Dement - mostly slower, sadder songs wrapped around great stories - beautiful voice too. Check her out. Sounds good, I'll keep it in mind. But the really important question that's been bugging me on this score... How do you pronounce the good Ms. Egge's name? Egg-y? Edgy? Edge? leggo my curiosity, b.s. doing my taxes...yeah yeah. g
Clip-Columbia MO Saturday
From today's Riverfront Times- DERBY DAY: The Missouri Derby is this Saturday, April 17, in Columbia, Mo., and should be an amazing day of music: Seven Days, Robbie Fulks, Rubberoom, BR5-49, Guided by Voices and the Flaming Lips. All live, all day long, on the Mizzou campus, south quad. Just look for the big dome, and youll find the Derby in the back. Free. This was a late tip; at press time, there was no news on when the music starts. For more info, call 573-882-3780. What are you waiting for? Ill see you there. (RR)
Re: Falkner (was RE: A Fine Release Out Today (Twangless))
Christopher Hill answered Jerry: PS: Anyone captivated by the new Jason Faulkner? Listening to this now, after seeing him open for Mercury Rev Sunday. It's still sinking in as an album, but "My Lucky Day" and "Eloquence" are brilliant, brilliant pop gems. A good follow-on from his previous work. Haven't heard his first solo, but it sounds very Jellyfish (w/o the Beatles/Queen bombast) and Grays-ish. Well, I haven't heard the new Falkner, and wasn't in a hurry to because his first one did nothing for me. It's not terrible, it's just pretty thoroughly uncompelling. (He produced the record and most of the noises on it himself and I think that was a mistake) Pop-geek roomie (another audities lister) says he thinks I'd like the new record though, so we'll see. Chris, if you like Jellyfish w/o the Queen sound, try their first record, BELLYBUTTON. It's the second, (sans Falkner-with yesterday's P2 hero Jon Brion) SPILT MILK, that veers that direction. ("Joining A Fanclub" is great fun, IMO) b.s. n.p. The Jam SOUND AFFECTS/ALL MOD CONS
Semisonic (was Re: Clip: Something to Crow about)
Brad Bechtel clipped, then I snipped: That doesn't mean her Monday night show at Oakland's Paramount Theater (she plays again Tuesday) was the equivalent of an arm-wrestling takedown. But it did have some great moments, and Crow turned in a solid star turn. Before she even began, it seemed highly possible that Crow's opening act, the Minneapolis power-pop trio Semisonic, could blow her off the stage. Always engaging to the point of inciting riots, Semisonic began playing to near-empty house (damn those 8 p.m. start times!) but by the end of their hefty 50-minute set, had the swelling crowd on its feet. Frontman Dan Wilson, bass player John Munson and drummer Jacob Slichter - all gifted musicians - play with the ferocity of a garage band, but with a joy and sense of humor those groups lack. Their songs are acutely melodic, and loaded with creative metaphors befitting the brainy Ivy Leaguers they are ("Shaking my mind like an Etch-A-Sketch erasing"). Especially good were the euphoric "Singing in my Sleep," the sweet/sexy "D.N.D.," and the screwball rocker "F.N.T." The bespectacled Wilson seems representative of the new model of the Hot American Male - more brainy than brawny, sexual yet sensitive. The girlish squeals in the audience every time Wilson moved a hip joint proved this theory. Semisonic's one of the best bands around, whatever the genre. *Great* live show and very high quality pop music with a brain. Last year's FEELING STRANGELY FINE is a good record, ubiquitous hit single ("Closing Time") notwithstanding. 1996's GREAT DIVIDE is one of the best records of the past few years, chock full of great songs, and not a lemon in the bunch. No more pop from me today, promise. g b.s.
Ricky Nelson recommendation?
For a long time I've wanted to pick up a Ricky Nelson recording, but I've been confused as to where to start, not to mention that his stuff is only rarely in retail stock. Music Guide recommendations (I checked the AMG and Music Hound) vary a bit. Both mention the now out of print LEGENDARY MASTERS on EMI America as the one to get. As for in print stuff there's a single disc ROCKIN WITH RICKY on Ace available as an import, though I've read that a the two records RICKY NELSON VOLUME 1 and 2 are more complete and just 5 or 6 bucks more than that single Ace disc. Any opinions on where to go for this hole in my collection? thanks, b.s.
Re: Curry and the Clash (was Re: Weller's Prime
Don Yates wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Jerry Curry wrote: The Clash did absolutely nothing for me. I NEVER understood the critic's fascination with this group and I absolutely never understood my cohort's slavish devotion to them either. Ya know, a few years ago I would've given Curry a good thrashing for the above remarks, but I have to admit their music has not aged well. Yeah, their politics were generally admirable, but smart politics don't necessary equate to good songs -- most of Strummer's lyrics now sound unbearably awkward and painfully obvious to these ears, and later Clash albums like Sandinista and Combat Rock are unlistenable. There's good, even great tunes on SANDINISTA, ("Police On My Back", "Somebody Got Murdered", "Hitsville, U.K.", "Charlie Don't Surf" to start) but you have to work to find 'em. (Reminds me of BEING THERE that wayg)COMBAT ROCK is two essentially novelty songs, granted. Of all the early British punk bands, I think the Pistols have aged the best.--don Matter of taste, but this seems like in a sense you're penalizing the Clash for standing for something (and that message aging) while rewarding the Sex Pistols for basically standing for nothing, nothing but themselves anyway. "The only band that matters"? Well, maybe not, and the message was articulated better earlier in their career, but I don't think it aged so badly as that some of it was awkward to start with. And wasn't the tension between Strummer/message and Jones/music a contributor to the late bloat and eventual split-up anyhow? b.s. n.p. THE SEBADOH (here Friday) b.s.
Re: Weller's Prime
Morgan Keating teased: A precursor to the Blur vs. Oasis battle??? g That shit made headlines in the UK no doubt... Yikes! OK, got to end this thread now... Blur and Oasis combined (and I own the first Oasis record, and 4 1/2 Blur records) don't equal the qualitative output of either the Jam or the Clash separately. As far as that's concerned, Supergrass and Radiohead beat the much more hyped duo you mention. (Though I'm keeping an eye on Radiohead that way...) And yeah, I know you were teasing, but I wonder sometimes at the overheated British press. Anybody ever hear that 3rd Sleeper record that never got released here...um, never mind. g b.s. who can't believe he's confessing to britpop here...g
Re: Rhonda Vincent and the Rage
Jon Weisberger wrote: Oh, boy, a chance to talk about one of my favorite girl singers. I love Rhonda's voice and how she sings with Ron is killer!! History please?!? I have two of her CD's, Yesterday and Today and The Sally Mountain Show, but I would like more of her progressive stuff. The notes to Yesterday and Today give a history of sorts, at least of the Sally Mountain Show. I'm assuming the CD reference is to Bound For Gloryland, their last album for Rebel. She did 3 solo albums for Rebel before that: New Dreams And Sunshine, A Dream Come True and Timeless And True Love. They're all outstanding, with a mix of pretty straightforward bluegrass (though nothing quite as hard-driving as what the Rage is doing these days) and country stuff, with pedal steel, piano, drums, etc.; if I had to rank them, I'd say New Dreams and Timeless And True are just a hair ahead of A Dream Come True, but just by a hair. All of them are well worth having. I've got A DREAM COME TRUE, like it real well, and now I'll think harder about looking for these others. Rhonda also made two contemporary country albums for BNA in 1994 and 1996. Written In The Stars has some great material and some good pickers, but the production isn't especially sympathetic, and it drags down the whole thing (that's not just my opinion, but hers as well). Trouble Free, the second one, is a dandy album unless you have a real kneejerk reaction to "Nashvegas." The songs are very strong, the picking is great, and the singing is just awesome, mostly Rhonda and her brother Darrin, who's in Ricky Skaggs' band. There's also a real solid duet with Randy Travis, and Alison Krauss and Dolly Parton both make appearances. For what it's worth, Trouble Free barely snuck onto the P2 Best Of 1996 list, coming in at #39 (out of 47). It may be hard to find, but it's well worth looking for. And I'd wondered about the more recent stuff. Dunno...g Rhonda's got a web page at http://www.nemr.net/~rhondav/ , which she's pretty good about keeping updated, and Julie Yocum has a page on Rhonda at http://www.vicon.net/~juliay/Rhonda.html . And that page talks about her working on a new bluegrass project on Rounder. I'll keep the site and the release in mind. Thanks Jon. b.s.
Re: Big Star
CK wrote: Hey there, Given... *5/6: BIG STAR AT METRO! I _think_ this is close to the original line up. Jody Stephens and Alex Chilton anyway. Jon Auer and Ken Stringfellow of the late Posies fill out the band. They did a live record (for a show they did at MU in 1993) that's pretty good, and I'd certainly see them if *I* had the chance. (sniff) Any thoughts on whether this will be an amazing chance to see a reunited band or a pathetic wank or somewhere in between? I saw Alex Chilton a few years back and it was pretty damn cool. Thanks. Ida been more worried about Chilton solo than the above band CK. But who knows. b.s. Later... CK Just because nobody understands you doesn't mean you're an artist. ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Japanese hipsterism....
Junior quips: Buford said: I work with a couple of Japanese gals who are just as cute and botch the English language just as badly. I think I'll round them up, pull a Malcolm McLaren, and get them to sing my new hit songs "My Dog Like Vanilla Ice Cream" and "Red Car Go Fast Ha! Ha! Ha!" No, you're getting this all confused. That band was *Elastica* and they were really great!!. Grrr. Now, don't be ragging on Elastica, who seem to have played their last gig in the Bermuda triangle.They *were* really great, if as derivative as it could possibly get. Oh, hey, now I see your Japanese analogy. g b.s. n.p. The Wandering Eyes
Elastica (was Re: Japanese hipsterism....)
Ph. Barnard wrote: I wasn't kidding about Elastica, Bill. As derivative as they were, I thought they were terrific. Truly Oops. I had a great music week in 96, or whenever it was they toured, when I saw them on a Thursday night in the Union ballroom here at the University of Kansas, then two nights later in Pittsburgh while I was at a conference there. In Kansas they ended up with the whole crowd up on stage dancing with them for the last number (that big hit of theirs, what was it called...); then in Pittsburgh they absolutely tore it up in a weird futuristic looking club that looked like something out of a Terminator movie Well, I missed 'em in Lawrence, much to my chagrin. I gotta wonder what that club in Pittsburgh was though. We saw Twangburgh at Rosebud, a nice place, but there was an interesting looking scene just next door at (affiliated?) Metropol. Justine under spooky blue disco lights in Pittsburgh. You make me happy as a little girl...g That Justine whats-her-name, yow!! Now there's a rock n' roll woman g Too bad they disappeared. Justine Frischman. Hungarian originally, not that I've paid attention. g She and insufferable twit Damon Albarn (the new Blur record sucks, just BTW, and I've been a fan of sorts in the past) are very publicly no more, so it's really too bad she's single again, eh? The still going on fumes fan site says they've got a single coming out soon, BTW... b.s.
Re: Television Live (and twangless)
Former and future Amy Haugesag wrote: Bill writes: I'm with you, which is why I baited the hook that way. (Though "Prove It" does end up as a song I get stuck in my head from time to time) Wondered if any NYC types who maybe saw them back in the day had different ideas. the twin guitars of Richard Lloyd and Tom Verlaine were revelatory. Patti Smith once said of Tom Verlaine, "He plays guitar like a thousand bluebirds screaming," and as pretentious and silly as that sounds, it's oddly accurate in a way. Television were a band like no other, and the relative unevenness of Verlaine's solo output and the reunion record shouldn't distract or detract from that fact. Well, your using that quote and verifying it despite how it sounds is reminicent of what always bothered me about Television. I was a naive little midwestern high schooler when those Television/Talking Heads/Ramones shows were happening, and of course I never even saw Television live. The level of hyperbole always seemed to me disproportionate to the way the records struck me- unique and unquestionably talented, but relatively sterile and uncompelling. The level (and the *tone*- like "bluebirds screaming"g) of critical praise given the band was a lot higher than my esteem for them- I liked MARQUEE MOON, played the heck out of it, but never fell in love despite trying to. ADVENTURE was even less interesting to me. Now Talking Heads, well, who'd guess that I liked them sorta OK? But David Byrne's "Sessions at West 54th" interviews...yow. Makes you long for a competent interviewer like Charlie Rose or Craig Kilborn...g b.s. n.p. XTC APPLE VENUS VOLUME 1
Derailers release date
According to the website, the new record, FULL WESTERN DRESS, will be released July 13. This clipped from there: New 3/20/99 Derailers Have a New CD Coming Out and a New Bass Player Brian Hofeldt here. We're really excited right now about the new record, and are looking forward to its impending release. Our manager, told us the release date is July 13th, with a single being released to country radio in early June. The record is going to be called "Full Western Dress." As always, we are asking for support from our friends and fans by requesting the new Derailers single from their local country radio station. Also, there will be an accompanying video out soon and would appreciate everyone's support in requesting that on CMT (it worked great for California Angel by the way!!). Ed Adkins, our new bass player from a large pool of contenders, will join us in late March. We are looking forward to his arrival in Austin. I guess you know about our upcoming touring schedule so that is all the info I have at this time. Once again, thank you all for your support. Your friend, Brian Hofeldt
Re: Best So Far - 99
What the heck, I'll play- 1) Damnations TX- HALF MAD MOON 2) Walter Clevenger and the Dairy Kings- LOVE SONGS TO MYSELF 3) Bill Lloyd- STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS 4) Kelly Willis- WHAT I DESERVE 5) Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band- THE MOUNTAIN 6) Hadacol- BETTER THAN THIS That's enough for just 3 months.g Still marinating on theWilco record. Haven't heard the new Fountains of Wayne record, just released yesterday and getting good pre-release buzz in those circles. b.s.
Re: Best So Far - 99
Carl added to Junior's question: There's also the Tim Carroll due out on Sire later this spring or early summer, no?? Or sometime in the next 300 years. Carroll's gotten screwed pretty badly on a fine album. I hope it comes out this year. When I saw Tim Carroll with Lonesome Bob back in February, I asked him about a release date and he just shook his head and smiled. It's not on the most recent ICE update. (Through May) b.s.
Re: Chrissie Hynde in Salon
Slim wondered: I heard a great old Pretenders song on 107.1 last week, but cant remember the name. The opening line was : "I tried to talk to my baby, and said Oh oh oh oh baby please dont cry." I believe it is from the first or second album. any help? It would be a great ummm, cover song for a twang band. That's "Lovers of Today", from the first record, PRETENDERS. Next to last track, after "Brass In Pocket" and before "Mystery Achievement". I love pretending, b.s.
Television Live (and twangless)
Review/commentary on the re-release of Television's live BLOW-UP record. Seminal and magical or pretty much overrated, you decide. http://www.salonmagazine.com/ent/music/review/1999/04/06/verlaine/index.html b.s.
Re: Ooh, baby, go all the way... (non-twang)
Jon E. Johnson wrote: No twang here, but I know that there are more than a few fans of power pop on P2, nonetheless. Word from the Posies list yesterday was that the Raspberries are going to be touring this summer with the original lineup (who are currently in rehearsals), along with the Knack and, on some dates, Cheap Trick. If you're a power pop fan, make a Homer-esque drooling sound at this point. Knee-jerk reflex reply. g Great news Jon, thanks. With the spectre of the Stones playing here this weekend, I'm just a little dubious, but just a little. And that Knack record from last year was very good, better than the old original stuff in many ways, I'll stand on somebody's table in my crosstrainers and play air guitar to it. gAnd just by the way, I'm just now halfway through my first listen to one-time P2er Walter Clevenger's new record, (LOVE SONGS TO MYSELF, on Permanent Press) and it's terrific. This may be the pop record of the year, and it's just April 2nd. If his first record was a Nick Lowe clone, (not that there's anything wrong with that) this one gets twangier in the same vein. Think of it as the long-awaited follow up to the first Rockpile album. Great stuff. b.s. n.p. Guess what?
Re: Drake (Re: Kelly Willis calling the shots)
James Roll wrote: On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which reminds me, any minor or major Drake fan want to offer up a good starting point into that artist's catalog? I need to go buy yet another CD that I've never gonna have enough time to appreciate to its fullest. Sigh... Oh my fucking God does Nick Drake rule!! I would do the inevitable and buy the four CD box set. Personally Pink Moon and Bryter Later(sp?) are my favorites . . . but 5 Leaves Left has Cello Song (the prettiest song ever) and at least a couple of other essentials. And I am afraid I cannot listen to Kelly's cover of Nick knowing his version . . . just doesn't cut it, sorry. I was in Neal's boat awhile back and asked a couple of Drake fanatics (the fan abbreviation does seem inappropriate here) and they both gave me, more or less, Jim's answer, per the box set. But as Jim said, it's not gonna grab you right away and takes some aural marination, so sounds like you're just outta luck Neal. g Nah, I bought FIVE LEAVES LEFT and I like it, but the corner hasn't been turned into fanaticism yet. b.s. n.p. Roger Miller box, disc1
Re: Roger Miller Box Set (was: Drake...)
Junior asked: Bill: n.p. Roger Miller box, disc1 Oooh! Now we're talking... How is that set? Are there relatively straight tonkers, etc. on there, before the full-blown sixties style sets in? I've seen that thing in stores but have never taken the time to check it out. Matt Benz: A few honkers, like the much discussed Lock Stock Teardrops, but not much. Has some of his classics (such as Invitation to The Blues) as cut by Miller in...um..early 70's? I think. But sticks to mainly to the 60's Smash years. On Disc one, Matt's right, along with some poignant ballads that never fail to affect me. (I bought the set after hearing Mike Ireland cover "A World So Full Of Love"-always tears me up) Disc One ends with the hits that follow- "Chug-a-Lug", "Dang Me", "Do Wacka Do", etc. Disc two's the big 64-67 super mega hit period, but with some other lesser-known gems as well. Disc three is the late sixties/early 70's stuff, still top-drawer though not hits for him, finally concluding with a couple of tunes from the musical "Big River" that gave him some late-career success. I love his writing but find myself appreciating the stuff that wasn't hits even more than some of the more "fun" hit records. b.s.
Re: Kelly Willis's career change
Jim Catalano wrote: Word in the street has it that Kelly Willis will soon be joining the Dixie Chicks as the fourth "chick." Think about it-it makes perfect sense. She'll soon be the sister-in-law of Emily Erwin (or the other one), who is engaged to Charlie Robison, brother to KW's husband Bruce Robison. This move will finally ensure the mainstream acceptance that has so long eluded Kelly, but has recently come to the Dixie Chicks. WOW! Now that's big news Jim. Thanks for the poop, er, scoop. b.s. n.p. Elvis "Fool Such As I"
Clip-Del McCoury Band
Del McCoury Stands Up for His Genre When Steve Earle got it in his head to make a bonafide bluegrass album, he didn't cut any corners. By his own admission, he wanted to write and record bluegrass music that would stand the test of time. It's a bit early to gage whether or not he succeeded on that front (The Mountain was only released in February), but future musicologists are bound to give him credibility points for recruiting arguably the best bluegrass outfit of the later Twentieth Century, the Del McCoury Band. And what, the uninitiated might ask, distinguishes a good bluegrass band from a bad one? Del, the silver-haired patriarch of the Del McCoury Band and father of two of its members, ponders the question for a minute and responds, "You can't use electronics. It's got to come out of your instrument and out of your voice. You have to really be able to play." His son Ronnie, who is now in his early thirties and has played mandolin in his father's band since he was fourteen, adds, "I think it's about pushing the envelope in the singing." Robbie McCoury, the banjo-playing younger brother in the band, points out, "If you can play bluegrass, you can play any kind of music." Although none of them can pinpoint what defines the music they love so dearly, they can all agree on one thing: "When it's bad, it's really bad!" But as Earle or any other true-blue bluegrass fan can testify, the inverse is also true, i.e., "When it's good, it's great." The Del McCoury Band -- it's current incarnation rounded out by Nashville bluegrass veteran Mike Bub on bass and fiddler Jason Carter -- reproves this slogan every time it hits stages across the country and around the world. Their music is rooted in the bedrock of tradition but never weighed down by it. They have the good looks and demeanor of perfect southern gentlemen. Their edge, highlighted by Del's high voice, pompadour and short sideburns, is offset only by their unfailing modesty and wholesomeness. All these elements, added to their virtuoso musicianship, have made them the most successful bluegrass band in years. Success is hard-won on the bluegrass circuit and the type of popularity that the McCourys enjoy makes them part of a tiny elite which includes Ricky Skaggs, Alison Krauss and Bela Flek. Of that group, only Del and his band have achieved their status without departing from the rigid paradigm set out by
Clip-Steve Earle
Steve Earle Lets Loose on Bluegrass and Country Music You'd be a damn fool if you thought a clean and sober, suit-wearing, hair-combing, mandolin-picking Steve Earle had gone soft. Earle's career is more threatening now than ever. In the middle of a creative renaissance that featured stellar back-to-back rock roll releases, Earle ditched his distribution deal with Warner Bros. and decided to put out a bluegrass album on his own E-Squared label. Bad idea? Guess again. The Mountain, recorded with bluegrass titans the Del McCoury Band, is selling faster than any of his Warner titles in it's first four weeks. Sit down for a spell with Earle to discuss The Mountain, and you'll be treated to a string of colorful anecdotes about bluegrass legend Bill Monroe, history, politics and scores of other meaty topics. He rattles off this chatter between sporadic puffs on his pipe (the "two pack habit" he sung about in his landmark "Guitar Town" is a thing of the past) as he takes a brief breather between soundcheck and donning his bluegrass uniform for a show in New York. Despite the stories of the angry Steve Earle of yore, only his conversation seems daunting. As the saying goes, he seems to know enough about everything to be dangerous. I met Bill Monroe several years ago. He wrote "God bless you" on my album, then told me to get a haircut. Monroe had a very dry sense of humor. The most famous Monroe New York story is he went to Carnegie Deli, and they got him a bagel and cream cheese. And he finished it and said, "That's the worst donut I've ever had." Now Monroe had been to New York hundreds of times, but people in Nashville will tell that story as if Bill Monroe was some kind of rube who didn't know the difference between a bagel and a donut. But that's the way his humor was, you either got it or you didn't. He came out and played with you in December, 1995. Had you met him before then? I'd been introduced to him several times over the years. But it was when Monroe started to pay attention to me that it really counted. It didn't have anything to do with music, it had to do with Bill's sense of fairness. And it had to do with the fact that what happened was so public. Every time I made a [drug-related] court appearance it was on all three channels and in the newspaper. Monroe started paying attention to me because he felt I was treated
Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Just a few observations about the fine show they did here last night- -A three hour show, not counting the intermission. Tickets were $23 after the TicketBastard charge, but can't say you didn't get your money's worth. -Both Steve and Del fluffed lyrics on a couple of occasions, on their own tunes. Long tour or what? I'd have sort of expected they'd be pretty sharp at this point. -We (Jack Copeland, Nancy Copeland and Cathy Weigel) started out in the back of the really packed (though not sold out) venue, so the sound had to compete with the conversations around us, but this may have still been the worst overall sound I've heard in ages. They shoulda had this show at the Beaumont Club. -Local resident Iris Dement got the best crowd reaction of the night, both on her duet with Steve Earle "I'm Still In Love With You", and the Tom T. Hall cover (help me out here somebody?) she did. Del and Ronnie can sing with the best, but Iris killed. -A little curious to me that bluegrass groups reportedly make %80 of their show income at the swag table after the show, when THE FAMILY and Jason Carter's solo discs were priced at $17. I'd have certainly given them $15 for the record, and fully intended to, but I couldn't find my wallet when it came to the extra $2, which seemed a little gouge-y to me. No offense- so I'm a piker. The tables weren't exactly swollen with buyers of $17 discs and $25 t-shirts. -Ronnie McCoury and Jason Carter delighted me. -I've heard lots and lots of good things about that book of Steve Earle quotes. Maybe he should go back there and recycle, because he's used almost exactly the same schtick this time as he did last June. Stop me if you've heard this one before... If this crew is coming your way, you just have to go see them. b.s. n.p. Um, THE MOUNTAIN
Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Tar Hut Records wrote: Jason Carter's solo discs were priced at $17. I'd have certainly given them $15 for the record, and fully intended to, but I couldn't find my wallet when it came to the extra $2, which seemed a little gouge-y to me. No offense- so I'm a piker. You have to wonder how much Rounder is charging them for the discs...maybe the only way they can profit off it is to charge that much.. Yeah, maybe, but it makes their selling it after the show rather more a service to fans without internet access than a moneymaking venture. Anytime a band will sell me their record for $12 and/or a t-shirt for $10- relative bargains I'll grant- I'll buy them. Otherwise, I'd better be awful darn impressed, and in a generous/inspired mood. It *does* happen. g No weasel swag here, b.s.
Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
CK-wan wrote: -Local resident Iris Dement got the best crowd reaction of the night, both on her duet with Steve Earle "I'm Still In Love With You", and the Tom T. Hall cover (help me out here somebody?) she did. Del and Ronnie can sing with the best, but Iris killed. I'm guessing either I miss alot of Trains, which is on the Tom T Hall Project or I washed my face in the morning dew which she did in Nashville. Bingo. "I Washed My Face in the Morning Dew". Band was a little ragged on backup, (Jason and Ronnie nearly collided at the mic, and were smiling about it) but the crowd was so up and the band seemed really pleased to be working with Iris Dement again. After the tumultuous response to the duet, Steve Earle remarked how much they'd missed doing the tune, since they hadn't since those Station Inn shows. (You dog.) b.s. n.p. Young Fresh Fellows, THE MEN WHO LOVED MUSIC
Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Jon Weisberger noted: Bill also noted that they were asking $17 for The Family, which isn't on Rounder, but on Ceili. Right, which made me a little curiouser, though it's all business of course. On the larger question, so to speak, bluegrassers not infrequently are willing to pay top dollar at the record table for stuff they could easily buy for less at retail in order to 1) feel better about shaking and howdying with the artist (they may worry about the artist feeling it's a waste of time when they're not buying), and 2) support the artist by buying directly. Even at $15 it's usually a couple of bucks over the lowest available price... So a markup to $17 isn't uncommon? Hmm.And I was ready and willing to give $15, but I was taken aback at $17. I guess that $15's where the old "indifference curve" flattens out for me. And now that I've shown my cheap-ass, I'll be sure to buy something when they return for the River Valley Bluegrass Festival on May 7th. g b.s.
Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury Band over America
Jon Weisberger wrote: Even at $15 it's usually a couple of bucks over the lowest available price... So a markup to $17 isn't uncommon? Hmm.And I was ready and willing to give $15, but I was taken aback at $17. I guess that $15's where the old "indifference curve" flattens out for me. Everyone's curve flattens out at a different place, I guess, and of course, some folks (like, f'r instance, me) will sometimes buy at retail even when there's no price differential in order to have an impact there. Anyhow, $17 has been uncommon, at least at festivals, although we're heading into a new season, and maybe it will soon be the norm. The problem's been that the record simply hasn't been available at any local retail outlets, and I think KC's still a top-30 market. Record-store-guy Jack Copeland blames the distributor. Still, if the country's foremost bluegrass band can't get their record in the stores, that swag table becomes a lot more important, which I gather is the norm for other bluegrass acts. Now *that's* a damn shame- why'd I think this might be an exception? b.s.
Upcoming releases clipped
From the newly updated ICE website. Highly subjective snipping, use at own risk: April 6: Fountains of Wayne Utopia Parkway (Atlantic) Carl Sonny Leyland (from Fly-Rite Boys) Im Wise (HMG) April 13: Mike Ness (Social Distortion leader) Cheating at Solitaire (ICE #145) (Time Bomb) Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers Echo (ICE #144) (Warner Bros.) Elvis Presley Suspicious Minds (anthology of 1969 Memphis sessions; ICE #144) (RCA) Bruce Springsteen 18 Tracks (title change; ICE #145) (Columbia) Mandy Barnett Ive Got a Right to Cry (Sire) April 20: Barely Pink Ellis Suitcase (ECD) (Big Deal) Bill Kirchen (ex-Commander Cody) Raise a Ruckus (w/Flaco Jiminez guesting on accordion) (HighTone) -For Jack C.-VA Bluegrass Mandolin Extravaganza (two CDs; w/David Grisman, Ricky Skaggs, Del Ronnie McCoury, et al.) (Acoustic Disc) VA This Notes for You Too!: A Tribute to Neil Young (w/Coal Porters, Steve Wynn, Richard Lloyd and others) (Inbetweens) Greg Brown One Night (live album from 1982 w/bonus tracks) (Red House) Alice Cooper The Life Crimes of (four-disc box; ICE #144) (Warner Archives/Rhino) Danny Gatton Hot Rod Guitar: The Anthology (two CDs; w/Delbert McClinton, Robert Gordon and Joshua Redman guesting) (Rhino) Woody Guthrie Buffalo Skinners: The Asch Recordings, Vol. 4 (26 tracks, 6 previously unreleased) (Smithsonian Folkways) The Mekons I Have Been to Heaven and Back... Vol. I (Quarterstick) April 27: The Backsliders Southern Lines (Mammoth) Old 97s Fight Songs (Elektra) Tom Waits Mule Variations (ICE #144) (Epitaph) May 4: The Blue Rags Eat at Joes (Sub Pop) Shaver (Billy Joe Shaver band) Electric Shaver (New West) The Damned Box Set (Cleopatra) May 11: Jack Logan Buzz Me In (produced by Kosmo Vinyl; w/Kevn Kinney, Vic Chesnutt, and ex-Swimming Pool Qs, Brains, and Coolies members guesting) (Capricorn) May 18: The Apples in Stereo Her Wallpaper Reverie (mini-album) (spinART) The Go-Betweens Bellavista Terrace (best-of; w/interview disc in first 2000 copies) (Beggars Banquet) -For new dad Paul K.-VA Dark Pleasures: The Vital Gothic Collection (w/Nick Cave, Bauhaus, et al.) (Hip-O) Marty Stuart The Pilgrim (MCA) Radney Foster See What You Want to See (Arista Austin) May 25: Luna The Days of Our Nights (w/a cover of Guns N Roses Sweet Child O Mine) (Elektra) The Rooks (w/Richard X. Heyman) A Wishing Well (Not Lame) -For Dave and Amyg-Mary Chapin Carpenter Party Doll and Other Favorites (ICE #145) (Columbia) Tentatively scheduled for June release are Luscious Jacksons Electric Honey and Pavements Terror Twilight, among others.
Re: Lila kicks butt
Mike Hays wrote: On the other hand, I started playing Heather Myles a couple of weeks into the new gig and she's become my top requested artist. PERIOD! That's cool to hear Mike. Maybe you oughta e-mail the folks at Rounder and let them know...I saw HM at SXSW last Friday night (she was great) and the label guy was still making a brave face of how the new single ("Love Me A Little Bit Longer" ?) would do, but Ms. Myles was sorta downcast...itsa damn shame I say. b.s. n.p. Neal Casal FIELD RECORDINGS
SXSW-Austin Chronicle piece
Unable to let SXSW go, and trying in vain to remember every last detail of the blur, g> I visited the Austin Chronicle site and saw the Dancing About Architecture column: http://www.auschron.com/current/music.dancing.html which has some interesting stuff about the Mike Ness/Continental Club fiasco, the Stubb's rainout Thursday (oh boy), and further support for Junior's contention that wristbands are a waste of time and money. b.s.
Clip-Wacos Saturday night
Junior, you should have showed up... T HE WACO BROTHERS Jazz Bon Temps, Saturday, March 20 Who'd have thought that six men in black from Chicago, sporting such musical pedigrees as Jesus Jones and the Mekons, could bust out such shit-kickin' rock and keep a country tinge to it? It's a fine line, especially when you think back to the days when "country rock" meant overly long, watered-down songs about horses and sunsets. No eight-track trips to the Hotel California here, though; just six guys who rock as hard as bands did back in Ye Olde Punke Rocke Days of Yore, the bastard child of The Clash and Hank Williams left on the doorstep with a note that reads "Fuck you" pinned to its cowboy-shirt swaddlin' clothes. Their version of the spooky classic "The Wreck on the Highway," in particular, is not to be missed, informed as it is with jungle drums and Jon Langford's Joe Strummer-ish yowl. Younger players could take a lesson from Langford on how to come across onstage; indeed, the whole band was as animated as if they were standing in puddles and getting 110-volt jolts from their instruments. At a time when alt.country bands increasingly lean toward tepid vocals, languid playing, and gentle singer-songwriterish sentiments, a band like the Waco boys is a welcome blast of whiskey-tinged fresh air. They may not have cut it on the Grand Ol' Opry back in the Sixties, but they take country elements and give 'em the jumper-cable treatment that should have come along years before. No jaded hipsters standing 20 feet back from the stage with their arms folded smoking cigarettes; no tight-Wrangler country poseurs either that night -- just excited, sweaty rock fans crowding the front of the stage like the Wacos were Elvis and it was '57 again. Not an easy feat in 1999. -- Jerry Renshaw
Re: Clip-Wacos Saturday night
Will Miner wrote: On Friday some geek named Renshaw wrote: At a time when alt.country bands increasingly lean toward tepid vocals, languid playing, and gentle singer-songwriterish sentiments, a band like the Waco boys is a welcome blast of whiskey-tinged fresh air. Yawn. I dont know if you've ever stood downwind from a drunk but "welcome blast" is not likely what you'd be thinking about his breath. I don't think he meant "breath" Will, though a more southerly approach might have applied, considering the crowd I suppose... Although that's maybe a good analogy for a band who does a Joe Strummer-ish "Wreck on the Highway." I think I might opt for a tepid and gentle version myself. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Wish you'd been there though. I'd have bought you a beer and I probably wouldn't have breathed whiskey on you, though you never know...g b.s.
Re: Wilco's summerteeth
Bob Soron wrote: I swore Jeff Tweedy would never get another cent of my money. So far, I've succeeded, no small feat in the town he lives in. (I didn't know he was opening for Patti Smith, I swear. We only saw a song and a half.) If his experimentation tickles you, you're ahead of the game. I stopped playing, myself. Hmm, let's see. Somebody new gets on the list and, having actually listened to the record, has some positive stuff to say about the new Wilco record. The uninformed response is "I hate Jeff Tweedy" times six. Now *that's* analysis. Lemme know Bob, I'll dub ya a free copy. grumpy, b.s. n.p. Wilco SUMMERTEETH (and it's only just now spring)
Re: Wilco's summerteeth
Bob Soron wrote: At 12:00 PM -0600 on 3/25/99, William F. Silvers wrote: Bob Soron wrote: I swore Jeff Tweedy would never get another cent of my money. So far, I've succeeded, no small feat in the town he lives in. (I didn't know he was opening for Patti Smith, I swear. We only saw a song and a half.) If his experimentation tickles you, you're ahead of the game. I stopped playing, myself. Hmm, let's see. Somebody new gets on the list and, having actually listened to the record, has some positive stuff to say about the new Wilco record. The uninformed response is "I hate Jeff Tweedy" times six. Now *that's* analysis. Well, now, I don't want to turn this into Postcard, but I think this is a useful distinction: I don't hate Tweedy, I hate his work. Point taken. I was guilty of imprecision there. And it isn't an uninformed opinion; I've seen him in concert a bunch of times (Wilco and Golden Smog only; by the time I'd heard of Uncle Tupelo, they were touring with Michelle Shocked, whom I dislike even more, and yes I've seen her too, and that's most of the reason). Bought the records, saw the shows. Every piece of work he's done has interested me less than the last. At this point, I think that declaring I'm not much interested in his work is not an uninformed opinion. (And I need to say: I've got no problem with him, or anyone else, being a chameleon. I think he projects his stage personae very well. They're personae I'm not interested in, though.) Well, I get your point, and I mirror your feelings in that I see BEING THERE as a significant decline from AM. Dave Purcell said it best, there's not enough material on there for one disc, let alone two. Tweedy has been increasingly guilty of some sloppy, unfocused, flaccid songwriting IMO. But as you implied in your previous post, you haven't heard the new record yet. A new record which, BTW, has gotten quite a bit of publicity (as would any Tweedy-Farrar project in this little community) as being a marked change from anything he's done before. It seems to me that actually hearing the record might make you better able to critique it, and Tweedy's work. There is, I'll grant, a fairly rich P2 tradition of criticism based on track record and press clippings as opposed to what the records themselves actually sound and "read" like, (lyrically that is) but it's one I've never cottoned to or found particularly meaningful or interesting. you add: The thread, to me, comes down to, how far can a band drift from its original sound before it just starts to drive those original fans away? Wilco's a great example and timely enough to be worth discussing. As I said in that penultimate sentence quoted above, if some fans like the experimentation, they're ahead of the game. It isn't that there's nothing wrong with it; it's that they're better off for it, as I say there. But this isn't a zero-sum game; folks who didn't like the new stuff as much as the old don't lose their right to complain, criticize, or sulk. Frankly, my investment in the band was so low to begin with that I'm more interested in the general issues than the specific. Again, it seems to me that deciding whether a new direction is worthwhile or not would be best served by actual listening. Though I'll defend to the death your right to "complain, criticize or sulk" about the outcome if so. I might even join you. g Im my defense on my tone, and I guess I should have said this in my reply to Bob, he did note that it wasn't indepth, so it's difficult to expect me to do so. On both sides, it was just another "Tastes great/less filling" call and response. And if it had been indepth, I probably would've deleted it without reading for reasons that have nothing to do with him and everything to do with Wilco. While I'll grant that Big In Iowa/Cincy Bob (as opposed to big in Boston/Chicago Bob) didn't fill several screens with his analysis of SUMMERTEETH, he raised a worthwhile point about "experimentation" and fans response to it, and added that his response to the new record was positive. Forgive me for not finding any point in your initial response but "less filling." Lemme know Bob, I'll dub ya a free copy. This is the bravest thing ever said on list during two simultaneous antibootlegging threads. Um, that's OK, Bill. g (but seriously, too) Well, you were on record (so to speak) as saying I swore Jeff Tweedy would never get another cent of my money. and I take you as a man of your word. Thus in no way am I robbing either Reprise or Wilco of any money. And the offer stands...g And now that that website is down, you can keep having these arguments more often again Bob. g b.s. n.p. Joe Henry KINDNESS OF THE WORLD
Re: Wilco's summerteeth (fans drifting away)
Lowell Kaufman wrote: I like Wilco, particularly live. I like Summer Teeth a little, but I'm not that enamored by it because while he's being more poppy, perhaps more accessible to sell more records (Wilco may sell alot for an "alt-country" band, but they don't sell that many records in the giant picture), he's not that great at doing the pop arrangement thing. There's quite a few smalltime poppy bands I enjoy more (bands like Cotton Mather, Richard Heyman, and other "power pop" folks), but it IS interesting how Wilco combines this pop with some bleak moods - something alot of power pop doesn't do very often. Yeah, the way in which this new record is "pop" is a bit oversold, I think, but that's coming from a big devotee of those "smalltime poppy bands I enjoy more". "Bleak" and pop of that style are strange bedfellows, though one of the best pop records of the decade, Velvet Crush's TEENAGE SYMPHONIES TO GOD, is lyrically rather depressive at times, as is a lot of critic's favorite pop name-check Matthew Sweet's material. I'm not sold, yet, on the congruence of the lyric bleakness of SUMMERTEETH with the relative pop sounds it makes, but I'm still listening and I'm still interested. BEING THERE had lost me already at this point. So there's a few thoughts. Wilco can do what they want for whomever will listen - even if the end result (I feel) with Summer Teeth is a so-so pop record that's gonna be on alot of top 10 lists which will make me shake my head as I play Cotton Mather's Kon Tiki and The Orange Humble Band's Assorted Cremes (This record sounds ALOT like Summer Teeth to me, but it's much better I think) more than I do Summer Teeth. Well, folks who like the new direction of Wilco who are unfamiliar with Cotton Mather (who apparently don't have records for sale in Austin?, or at least the stores I shopped) or even more obscure Orange Humble Band should certainly check out those records. Or the new Walter Clevenger, or the new Bill Lloyd, or... b.s. n.p. Bil Lloyd STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS
Re: Upcoming Dallas shows
*Sometime to Return* wrote: Dancer! I didn't meet you in Austin. Damn the luck... Is anyone going to be at either of these shows this Saturday? a.) Richard Buckner w/ Sebadoh b.) Slobberbone (in Denton) Which do you all think would be the better one to go to...? As interesting as the "who's mopier?" contest between Buckner and Barlow would be, g you gotta love seeing Slobberbone on their home turf. Wish I could... b.s.
Re: Final Red Meat tourdates
Jamie Swedberg wrote: Owen Bly wrote: 4/9 Keokuk, IA In-store at the Disc Jockey Record Store (5 pm) 4/9 Keokuk, IA Myers Courtyard (9 pm) w/ Bluezillion Hmm, between Chicago and St. Louis you visit...*Keokuk*?!? Not Iowa City or Ames? Not, oh, I dunno, MINNEAPOLIS/ST. PAUL? g Well, it's all cool news anyway. I am jealous of the more fortunate. Yeah, apparently Junior and I couldn't weasel a KC-Lawrence visit either... b.s. n.p. Wayne Hancock THAT'S WHAT DADDY WANTS
Re: THE OTHER SIDE of Beale Street Music Festival
Jerry Curry wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you would be surprised how many P2ers like this list better than the other one. Can anyone say Jerry Curry? g Har Harlet's see, I'd take Cheap Trick over darn near any alt-country band. Bill S./ Tom K., can I get a witness? Well, I'll stand up for Cheap Trick, Jerry. Which bands am I comparing them with now? g Both Peter Frampton Robin Trower are competitive. Yeah, I'd love to see those guys as well. As for Hootie Sammy Hagaregads, even I have some standards. Hmm. I think I'd rather see Sammy Hagar do some of his hits ("Cruisin and Boozin", "Red", "I Can't Drive 55")than any of the rest of that lot though. Frampton? Please. Robin Trower? Sorry man, too many high school nights wishing we had some more of whatever hallucinogen we didn't have. Let's call it a Hendrix homage. Hootie? Well, they seem like nice fellers...g b.s. wishing he was hearing THIS TIME
Parasol (was Re: $10 off Music Blvd coupon)
Christopher Hill noted: Parasol - haven't ordered from them, but hear they're good and cheap. Mainly alt/indie music (won't pull customers from MoM) http://indies.com/catalog/catalog.html I have ordered from them Chris, quite a bit in fact, and I recommend them highly. Very strong on indie and pop releases especially those central Illinois and Chicago area bands, many of which are under their "parasol" of labels. Fair prices, never any problems, check them out. b.s. n.p. The Leatherwoods TOPEKA ORATORIO
B.O.C Re: mo' 70s rock (was Re: iggy pop)
Carl Zimring asked: Moving the thread from Iggy Pop and the Dictators, [EMAIL PROTECTED] exclaimed: Goin' to B.O.C. Thursday night! Woo!!! Who exactly is in Blue Oyster Cult these days aside from Eric Bloom Buck Dharma? Anybody named Bouchard? Aw man, make it stop! g Now the opening notes from "Cities On Flame" are stuck in my head and won't leave.Saw B.O.C. twice back in the day, (opened for the Dolls in 1974, headlined in 1977) and my hearing's never fully recovered. Quality metal, yeah boy. yours in tyranny and mutation, b.s. racing for a twang palliative...
Re: SXSW rain?
Cherilyn diMond wrote: Yeah, we'll be there. Bring your raincoats, folks. Forcast is showers. Really? Crap. Anyone planning on being at the BBQ -- if it's raining on Thursday at noon, call the house (number is in email invite thingy) -- I might have to move it to Saturday. kill me, cherry lou. Yup, if the Weather Channel website is to be believed, showers and a high of 70 degrees are predicted for Thursday.Friday mostly cloudy, still 70. Saturday partly cloudy, still 70. Cherilyn, don't make us choose between your bash and the Saturday ND/Miles of Music thang, please? g b.s.
Personal to Chaco Daniel
Chaco, I've lost track of your mailing address. Please send it to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for the personal note all, b.s.
Austin weather forecast
Updated at 6:15 Eastern to showers Thursday *and* Friday, still clear Saturday. b.s.
Re: iggy pop
Dave Purcell wrote: AND he saw the original Pretenders. He's my idol. Well, I saw the original Pretenders, anyway. They opened for the Who (who disappointed, as you'd expectg) at Kemper Arena in 1980. They were great, though there weren't 1,000 of 15,000 there who had much idea who they were. The way things played out, I was glad to say I saw the original band. b.s. npimh "Talk Of The Town"
Clash tribute
Note the slight relation to a recent thread, or did those 25k posts constitute a skein? g Cover stories A tribute to the Clash I still remember when I stumbled across an LP of various artists performing songs by Neil Young a decade ago and thought to myself, "Wow, that's a pretty cool idea." These days, of course, tribute albums are a common, even mundane part of the endless flood of CDs that arrive in stores every Monday at midnight, week after week, on big labels and small. I'm not sure why major labels continue to devote time and money to the tribute album, because for all the publicity generated by compilations dedicated to new interpretations of the work of, say, a John Lennon, in the end the CDs never sell all that well. Old John Lennon fans are probably more interested in hearing real John Lennon outtakes than new recordings of his old songs by Cheap Trick and a bunch of bands they've never heard of. And even if you are a Red Hot Chili Peppers fan, you may not want to drop 15 bucks for only one Chili Peppers tune and a bunch of other tracks by bands you don't care about. My guess is that the tribute album has survived as something of a creative indulgence for fortunate AR types whose jobs otherwise consist of chasing new bands around with checkbooks in hand, keeping their fingers crossed, and, from time to time, getting fired and rehired. Whatever the motive, I still look forward to tribute discs, mostly out of an abiding fondness for cover tunes, a pop novelty unfairly discredited by hordes of GB (general business) bands who specialize in rote versions of Top 40 hits and, of course, the Grateful Dead. Back when I was playing in bands, it was considered a point of pride not to do any covers -- until we heard the Replacements' version of Kiss's "Black Diamond" on Let It Be and saw R.E.M. open a show with the Velvet Underground's "Femme Fatale." Suddenly, reinterpreting a classic took on a whole new meaning: covers became an integral part of a band's musical identity, and it was perfectly acceptable to judge an outfit by their choices. Those choices are necessarily narrowed down to material by a single artist on a tribute disc -- which isn't as revealing as hearing, say, a band like Hole pull a Duran Duran tune out of nowhere on stage. But you can still judge a band by the quality of their cover. The new Burning London: The Clash Tribute (Epic; in stores Tuesday, March 16) offers a dozen or so contemporary artists the chance to do what they will with the work of a now ancient punk band whose songs have never been as popular to cover as the Ramones or even the Sex Pistols. That's partly because, with a few notable exceptions ("Train in Vain," "Should I Stay or Should I Go"), the Clash wrote songs that had some universal resonance as anthems but were more often than not self-referential ("Clash City Rockers," "This Is Radio Clash"). Their best tunes were tied to a specific time, place, and situation, whether it was visiting an unwelcoming Jamaica as naive young reggae fans ("Safe European Home") or simply squabbling with their record label ("Complete Control"). Their songs are so Clash-identified that they don't leave much room for outside artistic interpretation. That's not a problem for Rancid, a band custom-made to play Clash covers. They dig their combat boots into the rebel rock of "Cheat" as if they'd been born auditioning for the part of the Clash in Calling London: The Punk Years, with Tim Armstrong singing as if he had a copy of Black Market Clash caught in his throat. The Mighty Mighty Bosstones handle the ska-flavored "Rudy Can't Fail" with appropriate care; 311 put a Southern California spin on the lyrics to "White Man in Hammersmith Palais" (and prove that they've been a good band in search of a good song all along); and some outfit called the Urge do a respectable job with "This Is Radio Clash," though it might have been cool to hear what Fatboy Slim would do with what is arguably the first ever big-beat tune. Third Eye Blind had the clout to score an easy hit -- "Train in Vain" -- but they
Re: clip: Steve Earle, Picking Up on Bluegrass
Tucker Eskew clipped: Earle first hooked up with the Del McCoury Band in 1997, when he invited the band to play on "I Still Follow You Around," a bluegrass song that appears on his otherwise rock album "El Corazon." I like that misnamed song title; sort of adds a whole new meaning to the song. gNice piece though. b.s.
Re: Jo Dee Messina?
Jon Weisberger wrote: The only song she does that I'm familiar with is "Bye Bye", which is a catchy enough pop song. And more of the same. A redheaded energetic entertainer with a mild Shania flair for performance and POP, POP, POP Music... That's about right, at least judging by her singles (I haven't heard any albums) and the way she presents herself in the press. She's been the featured artist on CMT all month. Definitely the pop side of things though she is entertaining to watch and I think she's pretty winning. That's from watching cable though, not paying for a live show. b.s.
Re: [twangfest] Fw: off-sxsw event page
Honorary Austin citizen BARNARD wrote: Indeed, there is no shortage at all of great off-festival music. Damn Junior, could you keep it down? I can hear the gloating all the way from Larryville. g b.s.
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
lance davis wrote: Clockwork as appalling? Um, I think that was the point. (I also think it is cunningly funny, and generally not recognized as such, but that's a longer story). One of Kubrick's consistent themes was the pretensions, hypocrisies, and fragilities of those in power, and how these people create, quite often, miserable effects for those underneath them. In Paths of Glory it's the hypocrisies of the French and British armies. In Dr. Strangelove, it's the buffoons in the War Room. In Lolita, it's the manipulative and lecherous Humbert Humbert. In Clockwork, it's the notion that the State can "fix" those who are "broken." True enough (don't remember Brits in PoG) and I agree. I'd add though that Tom's shown pretty good taste on a bunch of things here and is one of those folks whose posts I pay particular attention to. (Even if sometimes they're cool Chicago shows I'll never see) I can cut him some slack on this matter of taste. b.s. n.p. Beck ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
Ian Durkacz wrote: I'm thinking of "Paths Of Glory" with Kirk Douglas, Ralph Meeker and the wonderful Adolphe Menjou. That is a fabulous and powerful film. As a related note, the obituary for Kubrick published here in yesterday's 'Guardian' newspaper here (see http://www.filmunlimited.co.uk/news/0308/kubrick1.html, and further links) mentions that that film "was banned in France until relatively recently because of its unflattering depiction of the French army". Amazing. Well, maybe, maybe not. The French Army did experience a pretty general mutiny in 1917, which the movie represents in miniature, and hundreds were executed, either like those guys in "Paths Of Glory" or by the simpler expedient of having them shelled much as the general attempts to do in the film. It's understandable to me that this wasn't considered desirable entertainment by the French censors. Indeed, until the Vietnam War, I wonder how many similar depictions of cowardice, treachery, and malfeasance by commanders would have been seen by the US moviegoing public?And Ian, BTW, was "A Clockwork Orange" in fact banned in the UK as was reported here? "A Clockwork Orange" was my favorite movie for years, and while I can understand why others have quite the opposite reaction, I wondered why it was banned. b.s. n.p. Strawbs HALCYON DAYS
Re: Tweedy quote/alt.country (REAL LONG)
Barry Mazor wrote: Terry Smith: nr(reading). Great novel. So, was J. Stalin worse than Hitler? Well, Stalin liked sports; Hitler liked music. It bent these men a little, positively bent them. Barry (These are the wages of synthesis.) Yeah but was Stalin the Tweedy fan and Hitler the Farrar fan, or vice versa? Or did Hitler think that UT were the progenitors of alt-country, while Stalin asserted that it was a decades old form that was not being duly recognized as such by the UT fans, or vice versa? Or... totalitarianism, the original alt-country? g b.s.
Re: RIP Stanley Kubrick
Ian Durkacz wrote: I'm thinking of "Paths Of Glory" with Kirk Douglas, Ralph Meeker and the wonderful Adolphe Menjou. That is a fabulous and powerful film. As a related note, the obituary for Kubrick published here in yesterday's 'Guardian' newspaper here (see http://www.filmunlimited.co.uk/news/0308/kubrick1.html, and further links) mentions that that film "was banned in France until relatively recently because of its unflattering depiction of the French army". Amazing. I noticed this from the URL you gave (thanks) regarding "A Clockwork Orange" Does wayward human intelligence and instinct frighten Kubrick? That's what one feels in the very powerful Clockwork Orange, a film so disturbing or dangerous that Kubrick has had it banned in the one territory he controls - that of Britain. Do you know if was Kubrick's own doing? Interesting? b.s.
Aimee Mann news- (no twang)
No twang, but atypical good news for the cult of Ms. Mann... Stand By Your Mann Aimee Mann survives label upheaval, gears up for banner year Aimee Mann recently received some good career news: she still has a home at the newly merged Universal Music Group. Mann had been signed to Geffen, which was drastically downsized during the Universal's $10.4 billion merger with Polygram. And with more than two hundred acts expected to be dropped in coming months from labels such as Geffen, AM, Mercury and others, Mann, a critically acclaimed singer/songwriter who does not typically top the sales charts, was just one of many anxious artists wondering if they'd make the cut. But according to the singer's manager Michael Hausman, Mann has been told her next record, tentatively titled Bachelor Number Two, will be released by Universal's Interscope Records, sometime this spring. "It was a little frustrating because they didn't come right out and say, 'You guys are in,'" says Hausman. "Finally they said, 'Don't you get it? We only told people who are dropped, not people who are staying with us.'" Mann, the former lead singer of the Eighties group 'Til Tuesday, is particularly relieved since she's in the final stages of completing her new record. If she had been dropped, Mann might have had to buy back the record from her label, which can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Plus, Mann has already gone through one label trauma in her career. Her 1995 album, I'm With Stupid, was recorded for Imago Records, but the company folded before the record could be released. After much legal wrangling Geffen finally issued the album. Helping Mann's case at Universal was the fact that her AR rep at Geffen, Jim Barber, was also picked up by Interscope, which meant Mann had an additional ally inside the company. Also, Mann is working on the soundtrack to an upcoming movie from box office champ Tom Cruise, which no doubt interested Interscope. The film, Magnolia, is being directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, who won acclaim for 1997's Boogie Nights. According to Hausman, the plan now is for approximately eight new Mann songs to be featured in the drama/comedy, set in the Valley outside Los Angeles. The movie will be released either late this year or early in 2000. For Mann, who's also scheduled to hit the road this summer with Lilith Fair, this potentially tumultuous year is suddenly shaping up as one to remember. Says Hausman, "Things are looking good." ERIC BOEHLERT (March 5, 1999)
Re: SXSW: off-festival events??
BARNARD wrote: Is there a web listing anywhere of all the non-festival events, the SXSoWhat shows at various places like the Carousel, etc? You find out anything Junior, let me know. I still have thoughts of trying to round up info for a weekend post on the whole affair.Looks like you were on to something going sans-wristband though... b.s.
Clip-Buckner reissue
Also, look for the Slow River/Rykodisc rerelease of Richard Buckner's debut album, BLOOMED, on May 18, 1999. Originially released on Glitterhouse in Germany in 1993 and in the United States on DejaDisc in 1994, BLOOMED was an out-of-nowhere debut from a then 28-year old drifter who helped define the "No Depression" movement of the early '90s. Rave reviews from the press, including a Top Twenty Album of the Year nod from Spin magazine, earned Richard a deal with MCA; near constant touring and similarly praised follow-up releases earned him a devoted and rabid fan base. The rerelease of BLOOMED (out of print for three years), includes 5 bonus tracks, each staples of his live set, never before recorded. The new release has been completely re-mastered and is presented with new artwork.
Clip-Old 97's
Good thing the movement they're distancing themselves from here is decades old and can take the hit. g Old 97's Get Feedback From Frank Black On New Record Old 97's 28.8 RealAudio Coming off the momentum from its just-wrapped preview tour, the Old 97's are continuing to build up steam towards the release of its new album, "Fight Songs," due out on April 27. According to band guitarist and vocalist Rhett Miller, the new Old 97's record -- which had been originally titled "Imaginary Friends" -- finds the group exchanging its alt. country garb for a "slightly more Britpop kind of guitar sound," a sound featured on the first single, "Murder (Or a Heart Attack) [28.8 RealAudio]. A departure from the "cow-punk" chops of the band's critical breakthrough, "Wreck Your Life" as well as its 1997 major-label debut, "Too Far to Care," Miller admits that the end result of the new album caught him off-guard. After finishing an early mix of "Fight Songs," Miller felt a little insecure about whether the record might alienate some fans, and sent off copies of the album to family and friends -- including one Frank Black -- for feedback. "I felt very weird after [the record] was done, because I knew it was not really in the same vein as our other three records," Miller told MTV News Online. "It's so far away from the 'No Depression' movement that we'd been associated with, so I was a little worried (laughs). So I sent copies of the CD to a few people, one of which was Frank Black." "He had approached us at an Old 97's show a while back," Miller continued, "and of course we all love him and the Pixies. So, when [Black] called me back and said he really liked ['Fight Songs'], I knew we had passed the bar. Unfortunately, his favorite track, 'The Villain,' ended up getting left off the U.S. version of the album, but I think we're using it as a bonus track on the Japanese import. Sorry about that Frank." Even though the new Old 97's record doesn't come out until next month, fans can catch a snippet of another track from "Fight Songs," entitled "19" [28.8 RealAudio], that is being used on promotional spots for the WB drama "Felicity" throughout March.
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two words: Bob Seger. Nah. Even better than Dave Edmunds version, four words:Get Out Of Denver Seger was cool till LIVE BULLET made him famous, though he did get bloated and bad awfully fast. Folks around here forget just how bad the seventies were, course a lot of 'em were just a bunch of damn kids, grumble grumble How about Lake, or Missouri? Too easy? How about Little River Band or Styx? Just four from the seventies; there's plenty more. b.s.
Re: The Eradication Game (Re: Grammyszzzzzzzzz....)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try to come up with an artist that all can agree should be eradicated from the earth, their history taken with them: Two words: Kenny G Too obvious. Falls into the Michael Bolton category. NW Hey Neal, Can I get a ruling on the Grateful Dead in-a-barrel shooting in this thread? Waay too damn easy 'round these parts. b.s. sworn to wear his Skull and Roses tee to TF III. g
Re: Production-- Ralph Emery's take on this thread
Terry A. Smith wrote: np Bobby Bare/Chet Atkins again. "The Game of Triangles" is a killer song. I'm wondering how it would go over here in the late 90s. It has one line that goes something like this, "A woman can't steal a husband who's happy at home." Yikes. Interesting question, since there's a nice cover of it on the excellent The Wandering Eyes collaboration from last year. b.s.
Re: Wilonsky on Wilco and the sleazy radio programmers
Jerald Corder wrote: I started to post this article from the Dallas Observer but it is really long. If someone really wants to see it I will post it to the list. I haven't read it all but I have heard several folks are pretty steamed. http://www.dallasobserver.com/1999/current/music1.html Interesting piece Jerald, thanks. But aside from Wilonsky's occasional editorializing, where's the controversy from it? b.s.
Another Willis clip
Kelly Willis Mounts Her Horse Once Again Kelly Willis is to be forgiven a certain amount of professional bitterness. After all, the last time she had a new album on the shelves was in 1993. Her last label deal fell apart two years ago with nothing to show for her troubles but a four-song EP released only in Texas. And for an artist with three critically lauded albums behind her and a reputation as one of the best female voices in Texas, her total sales sure are a long ways from the half million mark. Jaded? You bet. Or maybe not. If any of these things genuinely trouble the thirty-two-year-old singer/songwriter, she hides it remarkably well. At the moment, Willis seems to be a model of optimism. Her new label, Rykodisc, has just released What I Deserve, her first album in six years, and the reviews thus far have been encouraging. But most importantly, she finally feels the freedom to pursue her own artistic vision. The title track of the new album, which she co-wrote with Gary Louris of the Jayhawks, seems to sum up perfectly where Willis has been and where she stands now: "Well I have done/The best I can/Oh but what I've done/It's not who I am/And oh what I deserve ..." "I was only twenty years old when I got my first deal with MCA, and I just hadn't really developed yet," Willis explains in a phone call from her adopted hometown of Austin. "I was young, but I wanted to be like Nanci Griffith, or Steve Earle or Emmylou -- that's how I wanted to develop. I didn't think I was that talented at the time, but that's where I wanted to go. [MCA] tried to compromise with me, but they just really wanted me to look good and sell music. So it was a struggle, and being so young and not sure of myself, I always felt bad when I disagreed." When MCA dropped her after three albums failed to register on country radio, Willis set about reinventing herself. She turned her attention to writing her own songs, a luxury she had scarce time for while caught up in the country music star-making circus. Fading Fast, a promo-only EP released in 1996 on her new label, AM, found her collaborating with alt-country forerunners Louris, Son Volt and 16 Horsepower, and hinted at the more rock-oriented, stylized arrangements which characterize What I Deserve. But before she really got started on the album, the AM deal fell apart when her trusted AR rep was fired and Willis asked to be released. "I had a really strong feeling that if I stayed there I would end up with a person who either didn't get me or who really felt like I would have to change what I was doing. I had already been in a record deal like that, and that's not what I was up for. And I thought it would be really easy to get another deal, but no ...(laughs). I had a horrible time, and ended up having to make [the album] myself." After finishing the album in December of 1997, Willis began shopping the finished project to a handful of labels. "Ryko was the most enthusiastic, and loved the album exactly the way it was," she says. "At a label like Rykodisc, the pressure is just to make a really good creative record that contributes to the musical community at large, whereas at MCA it was to make a record that would sell a lot." If Willis is clearly happier with her new label situation, however, she's not about to look back in anger on her MCA years. "It was a great learning experience, and I had a wonderful time as well," she says. "I got to work with really talented people, and created a career that has carried me through to this record. So it was a chance of a lifetime. It wasn't all bad." Likewise, even though Ryko will be marketing What I Deserve primarily to American and Triple A markets, Willis has by no means abandoned her country roots. "I don't think they're going to try for the full-on country chart, but that's where I made my audience, and I think it would be silly for me to ignore it because I really love country music and I think there is a strong country feel to this record. I guess I'm just one of those cursed people that doesn't fit in really well anywhere, but it's not impossible." As for the bottom line, Willis says she'd love to see the new album hit the 100,000 sales mark, which would be a modest improvement from the 60,000 or so she averaged on her last three. "I don't think that's really unrealistic to hope for, but it's not going to kill me if it doesn't," she says. Hopefully, Ryko will prove just as flexible. "I can handle losing a deal, but I feel that Rykodisc would not be freaked out ... I think they would be into making another record or two. "I feel confident about that at this point anyway," she adds, laughing quietly. "Talk to me in about a year, and I'll let you know." RICHARD SKANSE (February 24, 1999)
Damnations TX clip
Damnations TX Bring Banjo to the Masses If there's a running tally somewhere of the world's all-time best second-hand purchases, add this one to the list: Not too long ago, Damnations TX singer/bassist Amy Boone walked into an Austin pawnshop and plunked down around $70 for a second-hand Washburn banjo. "It was probably my rent money, but it was cheap!" Boone says of the purchase, though it was hardly money down the drain. That old banjo would ultimately prove to be one of the most defining elements of her fledgling band's sound, second only to the sweet harmonies Boone shares with her sister and co-band leader Deborah Kelly. Boone's contribution on banjo is limited to the initial purchase, however; it's guitarist Rob Bernard's spirited plucking that drives the Damnations live and on their Sire debut, Half Mad Moon. "I envisioned the banjo being in the band, but I was still new on bass and had enough of a challenge just to keep getting better at that," Boone says. "So, I invited Rob over, made him some coffee to tantalize him, and asked, 'What do you think about playing banjo?' He said, 'Uh, I'll give it a try.' So he sat in my house and I strung out a bunch of folk songs and he learned all the chords." The prominence of banjo, mandolin and the aforementioned sisterly harmonies betrays the group's love of traditional bluegrass, country and folk music, but there's more than enough rock in the mix to lend the Damnations pseudo-punk cred -- or at least to rub traditionalists the wrong way. "There are so many bluegrass and country purists that would probably want to ring our neck," laughs Boone. "We basically stick to rock venues that can handle the crossover type of thing." Half Mad Moon still begs to be filed under alt-country, but it stands apart from the crowd of lonesome Son Volt and Whiskeytown imitators by virtue of its buoyant, infectious energy. They're not above a haunting melody or double-edged lyric, but by and large the Damnations' spin on the No Depression aesthetic actually steers clear of depression. When the sisters sing of love's "hellish kind of heaven" in the album's stand-out title track, painting a grim scene of a rotting relationship with the line, "It's been a long time let's have ourselves a quarrel/Let's go sit upon our drunk and lazy laurels," they do so over an insanely sprightly Appalachian jig that demands a fervid
Re: Hyper produced Bobby Bare
Terry Smith wrote: A few points: Believe it or not, but I never laid down a blanket rejection of "heavy arrangements" -- strings, singers, etc. At least not this year g. and (When I discussed Dwight's record, "A Long Way Home," last week, I wasn't criticizing the production -- I don't have any problem with it -- I was just talking about it, raising some questions about why folks made a big deal about Holler's arrangements, but didn't emit a peep about Dwight's.) Sorry if I remembered what you wrote about that incorrectly Terry. I would almost certainly similarly mis-step in trying to remember the content of a year-old thread, g but I'd say that in retrospect that maybe the reason the arrangements on the MIH record got noticed is that they were new, for me rather jarringly so, for a band I'd seen and loved in a bar setting (thus sans strings) several times. And a year later, while of course I understand and respect Mike's vision in setting that up as he did, I still feel the strings are a distraction rather than an enhancement of those first two songs. (They work great on "Christmas Past") As for Dwight's record, well, I think the strings definitely enhance "These Arms", and CRS syndrome prevents me from remembering others. b.s. n.p. Ex-Husbands
Gag reflex
Because there can never be too much Courtney... Fogerty, Love Receive Gibson Guitar Awards LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - John Fogerty and Courtney Love clinched top honors Tuesday at the fifth annual Orville H. Gibson Awards, bestowed on the music industry's leading guitarists. Fogerty, the former Creedence Clearwater Revival frontman whose 1997 solo release ``Blue Moon Swamp'' earned a Grammy for best rock album, won the Gibson prize for best male guitarist. Love, the rocker/actress whose band, Hole, garnered a Grammy nomination for the title track off its album, ``Celebrity Skin,'' was named best female guitarist. Winners for the awards, sponsored by the Gibson Musical Instruments company, are chosen by music critics from a list of finalists nominated in more than a dozen categories by the editors of leading guitar magazines. The annual prizes are handed out the day before the Grammys. The previously announced Gibson Lifetime Achievement Award was presented to rockabilly-swing guitarist Brian Setzer, the former Stray Cat who now leads the big band/pop ensemble the Brian Setzer Orchestra. That group's current release, ``The Dirty Boogie,'' received three Grammy nominations, including the nod for best pop album. The other winners of Tuesday's awards were: -- Steve Earle, best male acoustic guitarist. -- Lisa Loeb, best female acoustic guitarist. -- Kenny Wayne Shepherd, best male blues guitarist. -- Melissa Etheridge, best female blues guitarist. -- John Scofield, best male jazz guitarist. -- Leni Stern, best female jazz guitarist. -- Steve Wariner and Randy Scruggs, a tie for best male country guitarist. -- Deana Carter, best female country guitarist. -- Jim Creegan (Barenaked Ladies), best male bassist. -- Melissa Auf der Maur (Hole), best female bassist. -- Mike Ward (Wallflowers), best promising new guitarist.
Re: Village Voice Pazz Jop
Don Yates wrote: Here's the results of the Village Voice's annual Pazz Jop critics' poll. Note who's right on top where she belongs.g Thanks Don- been wondering when that was coming out.Deciphering Christgau's comments reviewing the results is always head-scratching good fun. g b.s.
That overproduced Dwight Yoakam (was Re: Hyper produced Bobby Bare)
Since Terry's playing "lightning rod" today: Terry A. Smith wrote: My last message ended sort of abruptly, so I forget wherethe hell I was going. I guess I'd just like to know whether you defenders of 60s pop-country, the Nashville Sound, or whatever it was called, have ever heard a song from that era -- or any era -- that was too heavily arranged with background singers, strings, etc? I'd really like to know. I've heard a lot of that stuff that sounds dandy, but also some that doesn't. To my short list of Bobby Bare, I'd add what one of Hank Thompson's later labels did to his best work. It's just sort of tangentially related to this thread Terry, but last week you were seemingly displeased by the "overproduction" on Dwight's A LONG WAY HOME record. I was listening to it the other day, and it struck me how well done ("overproduced") the tune "These Arms" is. The song starts out a pretty straight up shuffle, but transforms into a string-laded, soaring knockout.I'm with you and many anound here, string-phobic to a degree and much preferring a "stripped-down" approach. But when it's done right, (a value-loaded word to be sure) like on "These Arms", well, string me up. What'd you think of the tune? b.s. -- terry smith, embattled again and enjoying it. Nobody argues much around here any more, and if I've got to martyr myself to the greater good, then fine. With Matt Cook acting like a big fluffy teddy bear, someone's gotta step into the void! g You go Terry. I was afraid somebody was gonna start mourning the health of the list yesterday. g
Re: Kansas was Cowboys to Girls
William T. Cocke wrote: On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:47:28 -0500 (EST) "Terry A. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps so what, specifically, is the Damnations TX's song "Kansas" about? There's no lyrics in the record, so I haven't been able to ferret out the words precisely, but the tune apparently involves the "bloody Kansas" pre-Civil War period (or maybe post-Civil War?). I thought it was pretty neat that a band has enough historical savvy to make a (very good) song out of a fairly obscure historical reference point. Or maybe they're singing about the rock band... Off the top of my head, Kansas was called "Bloody Kansas" in the decade or so leading up to the Civil War because it was a hotbed of unrest and violence due to the fact that it wasn't certain which way it would enter the Union -- slave or free. Thus it became sort of a magnet for extremists on both sides of the slavery issue. Shoot-outs, murders, lynchings, and what we would call terrorism today, all took place in Kansas in the 1850s, as both sides tried to win the upper hand. In a way it was a ghastly foreshadowing of what was to come. It was "Bleeding Kansas", but William's memory is pretty right on otherwise. Like every other state admitted to the Union after the Missouri Compromise, Kansas' slave or free status was hotly debated, and was left to the residents themselves to decide by vote. Thus both sides tried everything possible to get the "right" vote. The definitive history of the Missouri-Kansas Civil War by Jay Monaghan is aptly titled "Civil War On The Western Border 1854-1865". The war started here in a sense, and was fought here in a way that directly affected and involved "civilians" like never before. (Ever heard of "Bloody Bill" Anderson, or Jesse James?gJohn Brown got his first kills here.) In a sense it was thus a precursor to modern warfare in much the same way as the rifled musket and entrenchments were. (The Union's infamous Order Number 11 forcibly removed many locals from their property without compensation and swelled the ranks of the guerrillas) Kansas went for the Union eventually, but Missouri natives were by and large Southern sympathisers- The Missouri State Guard went over to the South along with most of the state government, and were led by Missouri's leading citizen, Sterling "Ol Pap" Price. It was the large influx of mostly German and Irish immigrants in the St. Louis area (many of whom had escaped conscription or revolution or famine in their native countries) that formed the backbone of early Union resistance in Missouri and at the battle that saved the state for the Union, Wilson's Creek. (Nice battlefield tour, BTW)Junior and I discussed some of this at some length awhile back onlist, and it doesn't probably belong here, but it is fascinating to the locals at least. Noted director Ang Lee finished filming a movie here last spring, "To Live On", that supposedly deals with the issues of the neighbor against neighbor guerrilla warfare around these parts. Notables include Skeet Ulrich, Jim Caviezel and, um, Jewel. How much of it the movie gets "right" is definitely up for grabs (I'd be thrilled with a "Glory"-like proximity to realism) but the exposure of the border conflict to a wider public will be kinda cool. Oh, got all carried away there. Twang content from William re: Damnations TX: Intelligent, well-written, country-tinged rock and roll. He got that right too. g b.s. p.s. Oh yeah and Steve Earle's "Ben McCulloch" is an excellent piece of historical writing as well as a good song of some southern recruits who "see the elephant" at Pea Ridge.
Re: Radio M show ! Will it go on in future ?
Matt Benz wrote: Good luck, Alex. Not all of us over here are for *any* bombing, so take care, and know that we're pulling for you. Alex,Sure hope that whatever happens you and your people will be OK. As Matt says, the way Americans think and the way our government acts can be very different. Usually it's been pretty faceless when the use of force is threatened, and used. We *are* pulling for you. b.s.