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tmauceri;625984 Wrote: 
 I'm back with another, probably dumb, question. I am currently running
 7.5.3 on both SBS and SBT. I know the current firmware is 7.5.4. SBS is
 set to check for new software. How do I download 7.5.4 on the SBS and
 SBT?

download SbS from here under my music, then install:

http://www.mysqueezebox.com/download

Install SbS on your computer. Then when you have the Touch connected to
your music library (i.e, just normally playing something), the touch
will eventually show you a screen that asks to update. click on this
menu and it will install then restart automatically.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-17 Thread tmauceri


garym;625987 Wrote: 
 download SbS from here under my music, then install:
 
 http://www.mysqueezebox.com/download
 
 Install SbS on your computer. Then when you have the Touch connected to
 your music library (i.e, just normally playing something), the touch
 will eventually show you a screen that asks to update. click on this
 menu and it will install then restart automatically.

I have a VBA how do I get there?


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Aha! Different then. You just need to update your SbS on VBA.  Go to
your VBA web access screen (GUI).  One of the icons there (maybe open
box at the bottom left (I'm not at home or I could look).  One of the
options is to update SbS I think. Do this and it will download and
update. I'm not sure if they have the official 7.5.4 for Vortexbox
setup to update yet. If not, you might just wait a few days and then
you can do it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-17 Thread Ron Olsen


SBS 7.5.4 has been available in the VortexBox repository for several
days now:

1. In your browser, go to the VB web page at http://vortexbox.

2. Click on the Upgrade icon (box on lower left).

3. On the Upgrade page, click the Start Upgrade button.

4. Your VBA will be upgraded to all the latest packages, including SBS
7.5.4.


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Ron Olsen;625997 Wrote: 
 SBS 7.5.4 has been available in the VortexBox repository for several
 days now:
 
 1. In your browser, go to the VB web page at http://vortexbox.
 
 2. Click on the Upgrade icon (box on lower left).
 
 3. On the Upgrade page, click the Start Upgrade button.
 
 4. Your VBA will be upgraded to all the latest packages, including SBS
 7.5.4.

Ron, is there a way to update to 7.5.4 if I'm still running Vortexbox
1.5. I'm on 7.5.2 at the moment as I haven't gotten around to moving
stuff so I can connect a monitor and keyboard to my VBA for the 1.8
update (and i'm a bit nervous about it as I have a 6TB VBA (3 2TB
disks) and I'm concerned that something wacky will happen in the 1.5 
1.8 update.  thanks for any info.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-17 Thread tmauceri


Thanks to all. Did the upgrade via the VBA GUI. Then the SBT prompted me
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-17 Thread Ron Olsen

garym;625998 Wrote:
Ron, is there a way to update to 7.5.4 if I'm still running Vortexbox
1.5. I'm on 7.5.2 at the moment as I haven't gotten around to moving
stuff so I can connect a monitor and keyboard to my VBA for the 1.8
update (and i'm a bit nervous about it as I have a 6TB VBA (3 2TB
disks) and I'm concerned that something wacky will happen in the 1.5
1.8 update (and Andrew notes that reinstalling with the ISO for 1.8 is
not standard for my 6TB setup...additional stuff required). thanks for
any info.

Since you're on VB 1.5, which is based on Fedora 11, you have several
choices for upgrading to SBS 7.5.4:

1. Stay on Fedora 11 and VB 1.5 and upgrade to the official Slim
Devices SBS 7.5.4:

Then enter

Code:

rpm -Uvh
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/SqueezeboxServer_v7.5.4/squeezeboxserver-7.5.4-1.noarch.rpm

This is the simplest solution, but you won't have all the new features
in VB 1.8, like DVD ripping.

2. Upgrade to Fedora 14 and VB 1.8 using the command-line upgrade; see
http://vortexbox.org/documentation/how-do-i-update-my-vortexbox-from-version-1-5-to-the-current-release/

This will preserve all your SBS settings, plugins, etc. but you can run
into problems. After the upgrade, you'll have SBS 7.5.4 from the
VortexBox repository. If you run into trouble, post on the VortexBox
forum and we'll try to help. This in-place upgrade from Fedora 11 to
Fedora 14 is not always an error-free process.

3. Upgrade to Fedora 14 and VB 1.8 doing a clean install from the iso;
see http://vortexbox.org/documentation/vortexbox-quick-install-guide/.

You'll have to figure out what additional steps are needed because of
your 6TB setup.

Backup all your SBS settings, plugins, and playlists to another
computer before you start, and restore them after the upgrade, or else
you'll lose them. After the install, you can upgrade to the latest VB
code and pick up SBS 7.5.4 from the VortexBox repository.

If you choose 2. or 3., be sure to have a complete backup of your VBA
media library before you start.

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Ron Olsen;626059 Wrote: 
 Since you're on VB 1.5, which is based on Fedora 11, you have several
 choices for upgrading to SBS 7.5.4:
 
 1. Stay on Fedora 11 and VB 1.5 and upgrade to the official Slim
 Devices SBS 7.5.4:
 
 Login to your VortexBox; see
 http://info.vortexbox.org/tiki-index.php?page=Login.
 
 Then enter
 
  
Code:

  rpm -Uvh 
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/SqueezeboxServer_v7.5.4/squeezeboxserver-7.5.4-1.noarch.rpm

  
 
 This is the simplest solution, but you won't have all the new
 features in VB 1.8, like DVD ripping.

Thanks Ron. Worked perfectly and now I'm on 7.5.4 and all my players
have updated firmware. I'm going to tackle the 1.5  1.8 update, but
wanted to wait for a bit of time to play with it, just in case.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-10 Thread Gazjam


Can this VHQ linear for SOX be set in the custom.convert.conf for
squeezecentre do you know?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-10 Thread earwaxer9


Gazjam;624459 Wrote: 
 Can this VHQ linear for SOX be set in the custom.convert.conf for
 squeezecentre do you know?
 
 
 thanks.

I know squeezecenter uses SOX. Not sure how. Maybe a programmer could
weigh in on that. I'm curious myself what goes on in my Transporter. I
kind of assume that it upsamples everything to at least 24/96. Would
like to know what algorithms are used. I upsample my redbook before I
send it to the Transporter. I find it sounds better.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-09 Thread earwaxer9


I havent read all the posts here - My two cents - I would rip to WAV
using foobar with SOX SRC (signal rate converter) VHQ linear,
converting to 24/96. I would also use a PC and ethernet. A PC has
enough power to handle the higher bit rate. Not all converters are the
same. I also have dbpoweramp. They use SSRC as a SRC. Not as good in my
opinion. Get used to playing with your music!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-02 Thread tmauceri


I just noticed when using iPeng on my iPad the album art is not filling
the the whole display anymore. It now fills the bottom 60% of the
display. It displays as the whole image plus a portion of the same
image mirrored upside down below and with the mirrowed image somewhat
greyed out. I prefer this because the image looks crisper, so I'm not
complaining. I was wondering if I inadvertly changed a setting to get
this type of display, but I can't find where I would do this on iPeng.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-02 Thread tmauceri


I just updated my 15 yr old Cambridge Soundworks computer speakers at
work with the Logitech THX 2.1 system
(http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/7321)
at work. I have been using iTunes and the SB player to play MP3s. These
new speakers are a big improvement but obviously not real high end. If
I went to FLAC at work, using the SB Player do you think I would hear a
difference. What if I got a NuForce uDac-2?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-04-02 Thread toby10


You would probably not hear any difference between FLAC and well ripped
MP3's on a $150 computer speaker set.
But as with all things audio it is subjective.  It's also easy to try
for yourself, rip a couple of FLACS and compare them to their MP3
sibling.  ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-27 Thread tmauceri


Is anyone using the new Sqeezebox controller app? How does it compare to
iPeng?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-27 Thread tmauceri


Is 7.5.3 the latest official firmware version. I was reading there is a
7.6 Beta version. Is the latest version posted somewhere at the
Logitech website? Should I update or wait for the next official? I've
always done the Beta versions on my Oppo BD83 without problems. Whats
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-27 Thread tmauceri


Jake72;621045 Wrote: 
 Hi, I'm new to squeezebox. I bought a Duet just 5 days ago and I think I
 really like it. Apart from the fact the controller is faulty and I have
 to return it. I'm tempted to change it for a touch due to the better
 sound quality. However I do like the controller when it works.
From what I've read the touch is better, but I have no personal
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-27 Thread garym


tmauceri;621234 Wrote: 
 Is 7.5.3 the latest official firmware version. I was reading there is a
 7.6 Beta version. Is the latest version posted somewhere at the
 Logitech website? Should I update or wait for the next official? I've
 always done the Beta versions on my Oppo BD83 without problems. Whats
 the consensus with running Beta on the Touch?

I think the latest official is 7.5.4, or it will be in the next day or
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-27 Thread Jake72


I decided just to get a replacement duet as we like the controller.

I was wondering does Vortexboc rip FLAC from CD as accurately as EAC?
On the vortexbox site it says 'You should use a good IDE or SATA CD or
DVD burner. Burners have better laser positioning and you will get
better quality rips.'. EAC claims to make perfect rips regardless of
the drive using error correction.

Also, what sort of USB soundcard and DAC would be needed to make a
vortexbox or other PC sound as good as a squeezebox touch? Or would it
be cheaper to use a Vortexbox just to store the music and a squeezebox
touch to play the music?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-27 Thread garym


Jake72;621271 Wrote: 
 I decided just to get a replacement duet as we like the controller.
 
 I was wondering does Vortexboc rip FLAC from CD as accurately as EAC?
 On the vortexbox site it says 'You should use a good IDE or SATA CD or
 DVD burner. Burners have better laser positioning and you will get
 better quality rips.'. EAC claims to make perfect rips regardless of
 the drive using error correction.
 
 Also, what sort of USB soundcard and DAC would be needed to make a
 vortexbox or other PC sound as good as a squeezebox touch? Or would it
 be cheaper to use a Vortexbox just to store the music and a squeezebox
 touch to play the music?

I think it is considered a high quality ripper, but it does NOT have
accuraterip capabilities. EAC and dbpa both do. I personally use
dbpoweramp, although I do have a vortexbox appliance.

Regarding your second question, not sure, but I suspect a second TOUCH
is probably just as cheap as a high quality soundcard. And plus it is
nice to have your Vortexbox Server sitting in an entirely different
place than your listening room.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-22 Thread tmauceri


Mignonette, also!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-21 Thread garym


tmauceri;619544 Wrote: 
 If you like Lucinda, you might like Ryan Bingham he is another Lost
 Highway artist.

+1. I'm a fan of this sort of music going back to the 60s, starting
with The Grateful Dead and Workingman's Dead, New Riders of the
Purple Sage, Flying Burrito Brothers, The Byrds (Sweetheart of the
Rodeo album), Buffalo Springfield, Poco, Neil Young, CSNY, and most
importantly, Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings and their outlaw
country approach, and Doug Sahm. My indoctrination was seeing hippie
acts along side of country stuff at the Armadillo World Headquarters in
Austin Texas and similar places in Dallas.  I'm sure you're familiar,
but if not, check out:  Townes Van Zandt, Guy Clark, Jimmie Dale
Gilmore, Bruce Robison, Joe Ely, Steve Earle, Billy Joe Shaver, Willis
Alan Ramsey, Blaze Foley, Robert Earl Keen, Butch Hancock, Gillian
Welch, Iris Dement, Ray Wylie Hubbard, James McMurtry, Jimmy LaFave,
John Prine, Kasey Chambers, Nanci Griffith, Jerry Jeff Walker
(especially, the classic Viva Terlingua- I had this on 8-track),
Michelle Shocked, Rodney Crowell, Terry Allen (wonderful!!!).and
the list goes on. Great country music, never (or rarely) played on
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2011-03-21 Thread tmauceri


We have some favorites in common. You are more into the country than I,
or what I call alt country, real country or country blues. I am
familiar with half of the artists you listed. I will give some of the
others a listen. One band you didn't list that I really like is The
Avett Brothers. They have quite a few CDs, Try Emotionalism or I and
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-21 Thread tmauceri


Boston for me. Saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan in 64 (4th Grade), music
has been big in my life since.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-21 Thread CharlieG


tmauceri;619667 Wrote: 
 We have some favorites in common. You are more into the country than I,
 or what I call alt country, real country or country blues. I am
 familiar with half of the artists you listed. I will give some of the
 others a listen. One band you didn't list that I really like is The
 Avett Brothers. They have quite a few CDs, Try Emotionalism or I and
 Love and You.

+1 on the Avett Brothers recomendation. I enjoy I And Love And You
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-20 Thread tmauceri


Sitting here listening to the new Lucinda Williams and thought I would
update my Squeezebox friends. I've finished ripping my CD collection
1014 as of yesterday, flac of course. I've got my database the way I
want. Compilations, soundtracks, classical and christmas in there
place. Artwork for every CD. I even ripped my DVD-A discs in 24/96 with
DVD Audio Copy. I am very pleased and highly recommend the SBT and VBA
combo. Thanks to all who helped me with this endeavor. tmauceri


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-20 Thread garym


tmauceri;619454 Wrote: 
 Sitting here listening to the new Lucinda Williams and thought I would
 update my Squeezebox friends. I've finished ripping my CD collection
 1014 as of yesterday, flac of course. I've got my database the way I
 want. Compilations, soundtracks, classical and christmas in there
 place. Artwork for every CD. I even ripped my DVD-A discs in 24/96 with
 DVD Audio Copy. I am very pleased and highly recommend the SBT and VBA
 combo. Thanks to all who helped me with this endeavor. tmauceri

Excellent. And I'm a big Lucinda fan!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-03-20 Thread tmauceri


garym;619496 Wrote: 
 Excellent. And I'm a big Lucinda fan!

If you like Lucinda, you might like Ryan Bingham he is another Lost
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-27 Thread alexlark


Mnyb;612778 Wrote: 
 yes streaming audio demands continius wifi signal, so it's finicky . for
 web browsing you would never notice if connection comes in spurts like
 an empty ketchup bottle .
 
 If you have ethernet cable in the same room why not wire the Touch just
 split the cable with a switch and wire the Touch too ?

I would love to have the Touch hard wired but it's the location. Every
other device I use (Wii, WDTV Live, PC etc) is hard wired. I really did
use the Touch on WIFI as a last resort. It's been streaming fine with
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-27 Thread aubuti


acsgp;613215 Wrote: 
 Anyone have views on using WinAmp Pro to manage my music files in FLAC
 format?
I have used Winamp a little, but not Winamp Pro, and I don't know what
extra features Winamp Pro gives you. My brief impression of Winamp is
that it's a decent player and Swiss Army knife for music library
management: it does a lot of things, but none of them especially well.
For my management I prefer the following:

Ripping: dBpoweramp (or if you want to stay with freeware, use EAC)
Tagging: mp3tag
Filenames  locations: applications native to the OS (eg, Windows
Explorer)


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2011-02-22 Thread acsgp


Anyone have views on using WinAmp Pro to manage my music files in FLAC
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-21 Thread alexlark


I've noticed that the SB Touch can be a bit fussy with the WIFI signal.
My signal was dropping to abot 30-40% and playback was getting
interupted (no other devices using WIFI). I set up another router in
the same room as the Touch, configured as an access point and wired
into the main router. My signal is now at the 70% mark and playback is
flawless :-)


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2011-02-21 Thread Mnyb


alexlark;612736 Wrote: 
 I've noticed that the SB Touch can be a bit fussy with the WIFI signal.
 My signal was dropping to abot 30-40% and playback was getting
 interupted (no other devices using WIFI). I set up another router in
 the same room as the Touch, configured as an access point and wired
 into the main router. My signal is now at the 70% mark and playback is
 flawless :-)

yes streaming audio demands continius wifi signal, so it's finicky .
for web browsing you would never notice if connection comes in spurts
like an empty ketchup bottle .

If you have ethernet cable in the same room why not wire the Touch just
split the cable with a switch and wire the Touch too ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-20 Thread acsgp


Thanks for all the replies. 

I'm using the airport extreme as my router, with the airport express to
extend the range downstairs.  So if the signal is weak, I guess I have
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-18 Thread garym


tmauceri;611931 Wrote: 
 I would like to understand this better. Is it that each song contains
 embedded data called a Tag which contains multiple fields. I thought
 that each field was a seperate tag and that they were associated with
 the CD as a whole. When my VBA rips a CD it creates 3 extra files
 besides the flac files. Two are the album art (cover and folder). The
 third and I am blanking on the extension, I thought contained the CD
 data or contained the tags.

EACH track contains a TAG. This TAG has lots of different fields (or
can have lots of different fields). The fields are things like ARTIST,
ALBUM, GENRE, ALBUM ARTIST, DATE, COMPILATION, COMMENT, etc.  The data
within the fields (within the TAG) are referred to as metadata. The 3
files you see when you rip related to an album are artwork files (two of
them) and I'm not sure about the 3rd file (maybe just a log file telling
you something about the ripping of the album; I get this with my dbpa
rips). But the 3rd file is NOT a tag. The tags are embedded within each
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aubuti;611949 Wrote: 
 Each file (track) contains a space for metadata, which includes multiple
 tags. ALBUM is a tag. ARTIST is a tag. TITLE is a tag. YEAR is a tag.
 DISCNUMBER is a tag (useful for multi-disc sets). And so on. Different
 types of files (eg, FLAC, MP3) have different standards for tagging. Or
 you could think of them the way garym described them, as being different
 fields within a singular tag -- there's a semantic difference but
 functionally it's the same thing.
 
 When you rip a CD with your VBA it writes the tags in the FLAC files
 (or MP3 files if that's what you're using). I don't know what the third
 file is that VBA's ripper creates, but maybe it's a playlist of the
 album -- if it has a .m3u extension then that's what it is.
 
 You may find these links useful. They don't give the basic explanation
 you are looking for, so maybe they'll make more sense later. 
 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Beginners_Guide_To_Tagging
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3
Thanks it is a .m3u


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JJZolx;611953 Wrote: 
 
 
 
 Some ripping software will create a .m3u file, which is a playlist of
 the tracks on the CD.  In its extended form it does contain some
 metadata, but it's usually minimal and isn't used by Squeezebox Server
 as far as I know.
 
 . thanks it is a .m3u


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garym;612038 Wrote: 
 EACH track contains a TAG. This TAG has lots of different fields (or can
 have lots of different fields). The fields are things like ARTIST,
 ALBUM, GENRE, ALBUM ARTIST, DATE, COMPILATION, COMMENT, etc.  The data
 within the fields (within the TAG) are referred to as metadata. The 3
 files you see when you rip related to an album are artwork files (two of
 them) and I'm not sure about the 3rd file (maybe just a log file telling
 you something about the ripping of the album; I get this with my dbpa
 rips). But the 3rd file is NOT a tag. The tags are embedded within each
 song file (track).  Open some of your files within mp3tag. Right click
 on a file and select extended tags. You'll see all the fields that
 exist for that particular track. See the wiki on this;
 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Beginners_Guide_To_TaggingThanks


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-18 Thread garym


tmauceri;612070 Wrote: 
 thanks it is a .m3u

yeah, just a playlist. you can ignore as noted.


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acsgp;611973 Wrote: 
 OK, thanks.  Prob I have is that the Hi Fi is downstairs, and the router
 upstairs, so the signal is weak.  Thought also that there would be no
 info lost between the VBA - SQT - DAC - amp if I use the USB
 connection between the VBS and SQT and the optical out to the DAC.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-18 Thread garym


acsgp;611973 Wrote: 
 OK, thanks.  Prob I have is that the Hi Fi is downstairs, and the router
 upstairs, so the signal is weak.  Thought also that there would be no
 info lost between the VBA - SQT - DAC - amp if I use the USB
 connection between the VBS and SQT and the optical out to the DAC.

yes, as noted, the VBA needs to be connected to your router via
ethernet. Forget your idea of TOUCH  USB  VBA. This won't work.

Keep in mind that the VBA could sit next to your router (it doesn't
need to be next to your stereo or TOUCH).  If the TOUCH can't connect
reliably back to your network via WIFI, have you considered either
ethernet over powerline or ethernet over CATV (MoCa). So, for
example, you plug a powerline adapter in next to your router and
connect to your router with ethernet, and another powerline adapter
near your touch. Then you connect your touch via ethernet to the
powerline adapter. Now you have ethernet connection between your touch
and your router.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-18 Thread agillis


You need to connect the SqueezeBox touch and the VortexBox to your
router. If you don't have Ethernet available where your music system is
you can put the VortexBox next to your router and the SqueezeBox Touch
next to your audio equipment. 

If you can't get a good wireless signal in your listening area use
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2011-02-18 Thread guidof


acsgp;611973 Wrote: 
 OK, thanks.  Prob I have is that the Hi Fi is downstairs, and the router
 upstairs, so the signal is weak.  .

Before deciding that the signal is weak just because the router is
upstairs, try changing the orientation of the router's antenna,
especially in the vertical plane (i.e., try pointing the antenna
downward). That worked well for me.

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tmauceri;612079 Wrote: 
 I think the VBA has to be hardwired to the router via ethernet cable.I had my 
 cable modem moved from my 2nd floor to my media room on the
first floor. Since my TV/cable box was already there it was inexpensive
to do. I think it was about $36. This allowed me to hardwire my TV, Oppo
BD83, SBT and VBA directly to my router.


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tmauceri;611740 Wrote: 
 I don't understand the compilation=1.

I'm not sure what you're not understanding about compilation, so please
expand your question. In my case, all my CDs that are compilations (each
track is NOT the same artist) have a COMPILATION tag and the field value
is 1 (without the quotes).  You can add this with mp3tag.  Then in
SbS, I tell it in settings under my music tab to group compilations
together and also on that page I tell it to call these groupings
Compilations instead of the default of various artists.  This way, in
my ARTIST listings I don't see the hundreds of artists that only appear
in compilations. Instead I have a listin of compilations under artists
and if I click on this, I see a listing of all the compilation albums
(soundtracks, etc.).

But search this forum on the keyword compilation and you'll see lots
of very detailed discussion. For example, Mr. Sinatra has lots of
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acsgp;611748 Wrote: 
 tmauceri - I just bought the SqeezeBox Touch and the VTB 1TB too.  How
 did you hardwire your VTB to the SBT?  Was is usb - usb? Would prefer
 not to stream as the hi-fi is in a low reception area.
 
 Thanks The SBT to my router, the VBA to my router, via eithernet cables. I am
pretty sure the VBA has to be hardwired to the router to connect to the
web for data retrieval and to access the web GUI.


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tmauceri;611841 Wrote: 
 The SBT to my router, the VBA to my router, via eithernet cables. I am
 pretty sure the VBA has to be hardwired to the router to connect to the
 web for data retrieval and to access the web GUI.

yes, VBA connected via ethernet to your router (or a switch that is
connected to your router).  I think the OP may be missing the idea that
the TOUCH connects your local network (ether via WIFI or ethernet). The
VBA is also connected to your local network. Then the Touch gets its
music via a stream over your local network from the VBA.  You wouldn't
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garym;611803 Wrote: 
 I'm not sure what you're not understanding about compilation, so please
 expand your question. In my case, all my CDs that are compilations
 (each track is NOT the same artist) have a COMPILATION tag and the
 field value is 1 (without the quotes).  You can add this with mp3tag.
 Then in SbS, I tell it in settings under my music tab to group
 compilations together and also on that page I tell it to call these
 groupings Compilations instead of the default of various artists. 
 This way, in my ARTIST listings I don't see the hundreds of artists
 that only appear in compilations. Instead I have a list of
 compilations under artists and if I click on this, I see a listing of
 all the compilation albums (soundtracks, etc.).
 
 But search this forum on the keyword compilation and you'll see lots
 of very detailed discussion. For example, Mr. Sinatra has lots of
 useful posts. I get what you are saying. I am putting comps under various 
 artists.
This works if the individual artist is listed in the song title and the
artist is listed as Various Artist. If it isn't I edit it that way. A
lot of work, but I have had only 2 or 3 comps out 50 or more. I will
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garym;611846 Wrote: 
 this really isn't the way you need to do it (or even a good way as you
 are losing info from the ARTIST tag).  You can easily have the ARTIST
 tag contain the actual track artist, then have ALBUM ARTIST tag contain
 Various Artists and have COMPILATION set as equal to 1. I have
 hundreds of compilation CDs and SB deals with these just fine following
 this approach.  I'm not sure what's not working on your end with this
 approach.  (I'm talking about FLAC and mp3 files here, not WMA).

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tmauceri;611850 Wrote: 
 How do I add a compilation tag with MP3tag?

select the files that constitute the album, right click, select
extended tags, then click the little star icon at the top to the
right of the metadata box. This will bring you to the edit tag info
box. In the field box, click on dropdown and select COMPILATION. If it
is not there, just type in COMPILATION for field.  Then in the value
box enter 1 (without the quotes). then click on OK. Then when back in
the regular mp3tag window, be sure to click the SAVE button (upper left
icon). This may be needed to save the changes you just made to the
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aubuti;611854 Wrote: 
 1) highlight the tracks you want to edit
 2) press Alt-T to bring up the extended tags dialog
 3) click on the new tag icon (I think it has a star or something like
 that. Just don't pick the X (delete) or the pencil (edit)).
 4) in the top part, start typing Compilation (no quotes) and it will
 auto-complete for you.
 5) in the bottom part, type the number 1
 6) save
 
 You may also want to add the Compilation tag to the list of tags
 displayed in mp3tag's spreadsheet-like view.Thanks I'm going to try a test 
 disk. Probably do it on Saturday when I
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tmauceri;611884 Wrote: 
 Thanks I'm going to try a test disk. Probably do it on Saturday when I
 have some time to play around.What does the value 1 do? Does it
 identify a new tag and associate it with the server or is it some type
 of priority.

no, the COMPILATION field is just that, another field within a TAG. The
fields are things like ARTIST, ALBUM, GENRE, etc. The COMPILATION field
is just a simple one that is a flag. If it exists and has the value
of 1, this just tells some player (itunes, SbS, etc.) that the track is
part of a compilation. So the player knows that the ALBUM, even though
it has different artist on the tracks in the album, is in fact an
Album that should be treated as one Album rather than 15 different
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2011-02-17 Thread aubuti


tmauceri;611884 Wrote: 
 Thanks I'm going to try a test disk. Probably do it on Saturday when I
 have some time to play around.What does the value 1 do? Does it
 identify a new tag and associate it with the server or is it some type
 of priority.
You're right to do it with a single test album first. The value 1 is
simply computer-speak for true. So if a track has the Compilation tag
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garym;611893 Wrote: 
 no, the COMPILATION field is just that, another field within a TAG. The
 fields are things like ARTIST, ALBUM, GENRE, etc. The COMPILATION field
 is just a simple one that is a flag. If it exists and has the value of
 1, this just tells some player (itunes, SbS, etc.) that the track is
 part of a compilation. So the player knows that the ALBUM, even though
 it has different artist on the tracks in the album, is in fact an
 Album that should be treated as one Album rather than 15 different
 albums with 15 different artists with only 1 song each.

I would like to understand this better. Is it that each song contains
embedded data called a Tag which contains multiple fields. I thought
that each field was a seperate tag and that they were associated with
the CD as a whole. When my VBA rips a CD it creates 3 extra files
besides the flac files. Two are the album art (cover and folder). The
third and I am blanking on the extension, I thought contained the CD
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2011-02-17 Thread JJZolx


tmauceri;611931 Wrote: 
 I would like to understand this better. Is it that each song contains
 embedded data called a Tag which contains multiple fields. I thought
 that each field was a seperate tag and that they were associated with
 the CD as a whole.

That's correct, although a 'field' is often called a 'tag' (as in the
ARTIST tag), so it can sometimes be confusing.  I'm not sure if
'field' is a universally accepted term, but many people here use Mp3tag
as a tag editor and that's the term used internally by that software. 
With ID3v2 tags, fields are sometimes referred to as 'frames'.

Files can also contain multiple tags.  It's common for an Mp3 file, for
instance, to have both an ID3v1 tag and an ID3v2 tag (for compatibility
reasons), and sometimes even an APEv2 tag.  This is less common in
other types of files, where most have just one accepted tagging
standard.

 When my VBA rips a CD it creates 3 extra files besides the flac files.
 Two are the album art (cover and folder). The third and I am blanking
 on the extension, I thought contained the CD data or contained the
 tags.

Some ripping software will create a .m3u file, which is a playlist of
the tracks on the CD.  In its extended form it does contain some
metadata, but it's usually minimal and isn't used by Squeezebox Server
as far as I know.

Some ripping software can create a .cue file (or CUE sheet) which is
a detailed description of the CD layout that references the audio files
ripped from the CD.  These usually also contain CD metadata.  CUE sheets
have a couple of uses: One is for burning a CD from ripped files. 
Another is seen when ripping a whole CD to a single audio file.  Then
the CUE sheet is used to determine track boundaries.  CUE sheets _can_
be used by Squeezebox Server for gathering metadata, but usually only
for file formats that don't have a tagging standard, such as WAV.


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2011-02-17 Thread acsgp


tmauceri;611841 Wrote: 
 The SBT to my router, the VBA to my router, via eithernet cables. I am
 pretty sure the VBA has to be hardwired to the router to connect to the
 web for data retrieval and to access the web GUI.

OK, thanks.  Prob I have is that the Hi Fi is downstairs, and the
router upstairs, so the signal is weak.  Thought also that there would
be no info lost between the VBA - SQT - DAC - amp if I use the USB
connection between the VBS and SQT and the optical out to the DAC.


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garym;611367 Wrote: 
 is there any sort of recycle bin on a VBA? Not sure, but I recall that
 in a windows machine stuff in your Recycle Bin could get pulled in on a
 clear and rescan depending on the how the music directory is defined.
 
 p.s. still a very odd issue!!  I use mp3tag and have never had this
 issue.

There is no Recycle Bin that I know of on the VBA. I have been using a
net book for direct editing on the VBA and a full laptop for editing
with MP3Tag. The Unknown Hinton CD has not reappeared today.


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I have ripped over 900 CDs over the last 6 weeks and have been very
happy with the the tags returned via the VBA. CDs that were labeled
incorrectly or did not conform to my filing system were edited with
MP3Tag. Rock, jazz, etc filed under the artists name, classical under
the composers name and compilations under various artists. A simple
system that works for me. I have 2 CDs that are giving me a problem, a
Buddy Holly best of and a 2 disk Gram Parsons set. The disks show up in
2 places on the SBT and on iPeng. They show under the artists name and
under various artists. I have examined both using MP3Tag and there is
nowhere a reference to various artist.  Are there hidden tags that I am
not aware of?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-16 Thread garym


tmauceri;611516 Wrote: 
 I have ripped over 900 CDs over the last 6 weeks and have been very
 happy with the the tags returned via the VBA. CDs that were labeled
 incorrectly or did not conform to my filing system were edited with
 MP3Tag. Rock, jazz, etc filed under the artists name, classical under
 the composers name and compilations under various artists. A simple
 system that works for me. I have 2 CDs that are giving me a problem, a
 Buddy Holly best of and a 2 disk Gram Parsons set. The disks show up in
 2 places on the SBT and on iPeng. They show under the artists name and
 under various artists. I have examined both using MP3Tag and there is
 nowhere a reference to various artist.  Are there hidden tags that I am
 not aware of?

look at the albums with MP3TAG. I'll bet that at least ONE track on
each album has more than one artist. If any track has more than one
artist (and tags can allow this), the album will be treated as a
compilation and show up under your various artists listing. To fix
this, add album artist tags to both CDs (i.e., Gram Parsons as album
artist on all those tracks and Buddy Holly as album artist on the other
CD tracks. Then do a clear and rescan.  p.s. I'm a big Gram Parsons (and
Buddy Holly) fan!


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garym;611518 Wrote: 
 look at the albums with MP3TAG. I'll bet that at least ONE track on each
 album has more than one artist. If any track has more than one artist
 (and tags can allow this), the album will be treated as a compilation
 and show up under your various artists listing. To fix this, add album
 artist tags to both CDs (i.e., Gram Parsons as album artist on all
 those tracks and Buddy Holly as album artist on the other CD tracks.
 Then do a clear and rescan.  p.s. I'm a big Gram Parsons (and Buddy
 Holly) fan!

I'm pretty sure the Buddy Holly CD is the same artist I will add Album
Artist though. I've noticed this is usually blank when I review a CD on
MP3Tag. Does Album Artist superceed artist? The Gram Parsons set listed
different Artists, Submarine Band, Byrds, Buritto Bros, which I had
edited to Gram Parsons. I then added the various bands to the song
titles for documentation. I'll add Gram Parsons to Album Artist.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts

2011-02-16 Thread garym


tmauceri;611566 Wrote: 
 I'm pretty sure the Buddy Holly CD is the same artist I will add Album
 Artist though. I've noticed this is usually blank when I review a CD on
 MP3Tag. Does Album Artist superceed artist? The Gram Parsons set listed
 different Artists, Submarine Band, Byrds, Buritto Bros, which I had
 edited to Gram Parsons. I then added the various bands to the song
 titles for documentation. I'll add Gram Parsons to Album Artist.

Yes, Album Artist is usually only filled in if you choose to. There are
a few different views on this and they are equally useful I think. One
view is put an album artist on every track (even though for most CDs
the album artist will equal the track artist).  Another view is to only
include album artist on CDs where there are different track artists
(this could be a true compilation (i.e., a movie soundtrack or
greatest hits of 1969 sort of thing) or even a CD that has one or
more tracks with multiple artists. I lean toward the latter approach. I
also add a COMPILATION =1 tag for true compilations.

Also, you don't have to remove the track artist info at all as you've
done for Parsons.  You can leave the track artist (which is just the
ARTIST field) with the different artists (e.g., Gram Parsons, Flying
Burritto Brothers, International Submarine Band, etc.) and still make
the ALBUM ARTIST tag for all these tracks as Gram Parsons. Make sense?


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