[VFB] Re: Staying on list now members

2009-11-23 Thread Anthony Spezio
We have 221 members, down from 600 but we only hear from a few. How about some 
of the members that do not reply chime in. Let us know you are out there and 
where you might be from. Who knows, you might have a list member close by and 
they might like to fish or tie some flies with you.
Tony

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Staying on list
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 6:31 PM

Wow! we not only got Tony to stay we got Mart to chime in.  I have missed you 
Mart.  Now if we can get a few more of the old group to come back.

Mike

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl 
wrote:








Great, that settles it for me - I'll stay too, 
Tony.
And I'll chime in more often if I can add anything 
worthwhile
:-)
Mart

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  I had planned to sign off after I sent in my Christmas 
fly but it seems that several members will do the same. I feel that I 
should not be responsible for this so I will be staying. I have been 
with this list since day one and I guess I will miss it if I was to 
leave.
I have been asked to post this to keep others from leaving the 
list. We have lost too many already.
Christmas fly was sent in 
today.
Tony







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[VFB] Don's DVD

2009-11-23 Thread Anthony Spezio
I have just found some time to watch part of Don's DVD. Due to out of
state family a here I am not able to watch it all at one time. I have
seen loads of tying DVDs but this I will admit will not put you to
sleep. This is not a pattern DVD , it is a technique in
dubbing. This is a technique I have not seen in all my years of tying.
I am very impressed in the way the segments are presented. They are
short and to the point. Don also shows a number of finished flies after
showing the technique of that particular dubbing segment. I will keep
this short because I can go on with it. I can say I am really impressed
with the quality and the presentation of this DVD..
No Don is not paying me to say that.
Tony


  
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[VFB] Re: Don's DVD

2009-11-24 Thread Anthony Spezio
Keith,
We would like to get you on this side of the pond sometime. Maybe you can get 
Martin to come with you.
Tony

--- On Tue, 11/24/09, KP kpt...@btinternet.com wrote:

From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Don's DVD
To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 7:33 AM



So Mr Ordes now that Mr Spezio has whett everyones appetite I have two
questions.
Did you get my payment?
And if you did WHERES MY DVD ?
:-)

Oh and which of your 47000 email addys do I use now?
Yeah I know thats three but hey ho.
Thanks kind sir.
By the way Mr Spezio it would be a travesty if you left he group. As
for Mr Westbeek I saw him at the BFFI and he doesnt look a day older
than when I saw him before. And he is STILL a really nice guy...
Just like Mr Spezio.

Talk soon folks
Keith






  
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[VFB] Re: Sowbug

2009-11-25 Thread Anthony Spezio
Martin was out first tyer from Europe We had one from GB well known name but it 
slips my mind right now. 
You would be welcome anytime you can make it.
Tony

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, KP kpt...@btinternet.com wrote:

From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Don's DVD
To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 1:07 PM


Hi nTony,
I have been saying it for the past ten years or thereabouts!! I would
LOVE to come out there. Not sure Martin would be able (or willing) to
put up with travelling with me! LOL
Take care meistro
Cheers
KP

On Nov 24, 7:30 pm, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Keith,
 We would like to get you on this side of the pond sometime. Maybe you can get 
 Martin to come with you.
 Tony

 --- On Tue, 11/24/09, KP kpt...@btinternet.com wrote:

 From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com
 Subject: [VFB] Re: Don's DVD
 To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 7:33 AM

 So Mr Ordes now that Mr Spezio has whett everyones appetite I have two
 questions.
 Did you get my payment?
 And if you did WHERES MY DVD ?
 :-)

 Oh and which of your 47000 email addys do I use now?
 Yeah I know thats three but hey ho.
 Thanks kind sir.
 By the way Mr Spezio it would be a travesty if you left he group. As
 for Mr Westbeek I saw him at the BFFI and he doesnt look a day older
 than when I saw him before. And he is STILL a really nice guy...
 Just like Mr Spezio.

 Talk soon folks
 Keith




  
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Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug

2009-11-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
That would be a winner to have all three of you here at one time.
Maybe I can get Dot to make Spaghetti and Meatballs again. Those waders we 
found floating in the White leaked like a sieve. Maybe that is why they were in 
the river but the fly box from pocket I still have. We can take Rene fishing 
again and this time not have any wind. It will be all new to KP. We have a 
better place to have the show, much lighter and more pleasant than the Ramada. 
It has grown quite a bit since you were here. Maybe you can get that Swede Nick 
to come too.
Tony

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote:

From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl
Subject: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 1:40 PM



 
 

And the experience was so good that I'd 
gladly make the small sacrifice of travelling with KP:-) We could ask Rene to 
join us and then we would sound like the 
opening line of one of those jokes: A limey, a 
cheesehead and a kraut are on a plane...
Mart
 
 
 

  


  Martin was out first tyer from Europe We had one from GB 
well known name but it slips my mind right now. 
You would be welcome 
anytime you can make it.
Tony



  
   
  
 

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Re: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod

2009-11-27 Thread Anthony Spezio
Try trolling a heavy Chili Pepper.
Tony

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From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net mystikalra...@frontiernet.net
Subject: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod
To: vfb-mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:34 PM

I am looking for 5 basic patterns that can be used on a reg trout rod the 
patterns will be used  on a lake and then im looking for 5 other patterns that 
can be used the same way for salmon and steelhead in the rivers 

ok so 5 for trout on a reg trout rod on a lake 
and 5 patterns for salmon and steelhead for the rivers in oregon on a steelhead 
salmon rod lol


i would apperciate any help the lake is dimond lake in oregon 

and you all know the rivers lol the umpqua so let me know thank you all

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RE: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod

2009-11-27 Thread Anthony Spezio
It is a Copper Tinsel Chenille Bugger with a burnt orange marabou tail Gold 
bead head and a Fire orange thread collar behind the bead.
Check FAOL, Tony Spezio flies or Chili Pepper.
Jim Phillips uses a version of it in a Jig pattern that does real well.
Jim 
Tony

--- On Fri, 11/27/09, JC jc.flyf...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: JC jc.flyf...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 5:36 PM

I have not heard of that one, what does that look like, pattern?

From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:46 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod

Try trolling a heavy Chili Pepper.
Tony

--- On Fri, 11/27/09, mystikalra...@frontiernet.net 
mystikalra...@frontiernet.net wrote:

From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net mystikalra...@frontiernet.net
Subject: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod
To: vfb-mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:34 PM

I am looking for 5 basic patterns that can be used on a reg trout rod the 
patterns will be used  on a lake and then im looking for 5 other patterns that 
can be used the same way for salmon and steelhead in the rivers

ok so 5 for trout on a reg trout rod on a lake
and 5 patterns for salmon and steelhead for the rivers in oregon on a steelhead 
salmon rod lol


i would apperciate any help the lake is dimond lake in oregon

and you all know the rivers lol the umpqua so let me know thank you all

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Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug

2009-11-28 Thread Anthony Spezio
There is a new Airport in Branson. Missouri. They have lower fares and it is 
only just over an hour from us instead of three hours like Springfield. We will 
even feed you on Friday night.
Tony

--- On Sat, 11/28/09, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote:

From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de
Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:02 AM

Well gang,
that would be a great trip. And, ... why not:
from Europe they fly into 2 or 3 airports in the US which are relevant
for us. maybe Chicago, Maybe Ford Worth. Arrange flight so that we can
meet there and take the last flight to Springfield together. Or maybe we
can arrange to meet in Heathrow or Amsterdam.
Share the rental car at Springfield plus fuel (Keith: You are not
eligible to drive it, you Limeys are driving on the wrong (I SAY
WRONG!!!) side of the road, maybe the cheesehead, he is used to these
low speeds over there G). And do some fishing.
Share a cabin Can reduce costs for the 3 of us.
Kraut Rene

Martin Westbeek wrote:
 And the experience was so good that I'd gladly make the small
 sacrifice of travelling with KP:-) We could ask Rene to join us and
 then we would sound like the opening line of one of those jokes: A
 limey, a cheesehead and a kraut are on a plane...
 Mart
  
  
  

     Martin was out first tyer from Europe We had one from GB well
     known name but it slips my mind right now.
     You would be welcome anytime you can make it.
     Tony

          


          


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Re: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today

2009-11-30 Thread Anthony Spezio
Finished up some of my Promised flies today and got them sent out.
Had planned on planing out some bamboo for a 1 wt rod but I did not get to it.
Tony

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote:

From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net
Subject: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today
To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 3:42 PM




  
  
Mighty quiet today.  

I don't know about ya'll, but I've kinda enjoyed the peace 
and quiet we've had these last few days. Now we
have a little lull and that perplexes me. I've been looking
to see a post that all of us can join in on and help 
another VFB member.  Or at least have a fishing/tying
problem to share with the group.  I've even tried to slip
in a controversial Quote for the Day, but only one or two
of you have commented.

I'm sure this is just a passing thing and you guys are'
either fishing, tying flies or doing other family oriented
stuff.  Many of us have been blessed with the opportunity
to go fish. I wish I could, but alas, my feet are so shot
that the only wading I can do is on a smooth, gravel bottom.

So, I'm tying more flies than usual and working on my second
outdoor humor book.  Jody say's I'll never finish it, but I
will just to spite her. I'm looking forward to Sow Bug and
getting to see old friends.  I've missed the last two because
of family opportunities.

I love the VFB and without it, there would be a big hole in
my heart. You guys have done so much for me and especially
for Jody during her bout with breast cancer.  I love you guys
and gals, and count all of you as Family.

SO . . . What's going on in your neck of the woods.  Anybody
want to talk about spine vs spline or Furled leaders?  :-P  ;-) 

P.S. If you have a new rod, reel etc. that you'd like to brag on
now's the time to do it.  I'll start it off.

My oldest son gave me a brand new Tibor Light fly reel for my 70th
birthday.  Its a neat dark green and is the Tail Water CL model.
and is engraved with my name and Happy 70th Year of Fishing.

Have A Goodun.

JIMMY D


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Moon Holler Misfits Fishing  Hunting Club, author
Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member 
TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,Texas
Fish  Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired
Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html  
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Re: [VFB] Ultra light bamboo rods, tiny reels. 1 wt U tube

2009-11-30 Thread Anthony Spezio
I have a small reel I was able to get from Dorber. It fits the 1 wt perfect and 
balances real well.
Here is a U tube of one of my 1 wt rods in action down in Texas.

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=XKDzyJ8ivAc


Tony

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Reuven Segal reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

From: Reuven Segal reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au
Subject: [VFB] Ultra light bamboo rods, tiny reels.
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 7:12 PM

What sort of reel would one use for such a rod, I have always been a 
sucker for ultra light rods, but never seen a reel small or light enough 
to accomodate them.

R

Allan Fish wrote:
 Finished up some of my Promised flies today and got them sent out.
 Had planned on planing out some bamboo for a 1 wt rod but I did not get to 
 it.
 Tony
     

 Now THAT is a rod I'd like to see when you're done with it.

 a.
   

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Re: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today, now 1 wt

2009-11-30 Thread Anthony Spezio
Alan,
I don't know of any other than some I have made from broken Graphite rods. 
There was a guy from N.J. that gave a demo at the Catskill Rodmakers Gathering 
who showed how to make them. I have used graphite inserts in some of the Bamboo 
ferrules I have experimented with. If you get to come out for the Sowbug, I can 
show you them.
Tony

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today, now 1 wt
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:19 PM



 
 

Tony:
 
Do they make carbon fiber ferrules?
If not. why not?
if so, where do you get them?
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger 
than everyone else looks?
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet 
  today, now 1 wt
  

  


  Allan, I thought I had shown you the Prototype . I have 
caught 64 fish on it. To date I have made seven of them.
Will have to 
take it to Crooked Creek when you are here next March.
I have three 
to make before March. The rod is 6'3 long in two piece with a .052 tip 
at the tip top with a 9/64 ferrule.
Tony

--- On Mon, 
11/30/09, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


From: 
  Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: 
  [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today
To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 7:02 
  PM


  Finished up some of my Promised flies today 
  and got them sent out.
Had planned on planing out some bamboo 
  for a 1 wt rod but I did not get to it.
Tony

Now THAT is 
  a rod I'd like to see when you're done with it.

a.
-- 
  
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Greenwood, IN
afi...@sbcglobal.net

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Re: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD

2009-12-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
Keith,
Like you, it came to an end too soon. I had been tying on and off for 20 years 
and almost full tine the past 20 years but I have not seen this process done 
that way. Don showed me a bit at the Sowbug several years ago but I really did 
not have the time to take it in. I was too involved with the show.
Make it here in March and you might get to see this done in person.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD
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Mr Ordes I am in awe. Well actually in Engerland but hey ho. This DVD
thaingy arrived and I enjoyed 98% of it.The bit I didnt enjoy was the
music between scenes and the end. The end came too soon.
Its well put together, clear, good sound qaulity and picture qaulity
is fantastic too. Delivery service was pretty good too. ;-)
Many thanks Don
Best regards
Keith

PS
If you missed this then you missed a great job folks and you better
hope Mr Ordes gets the next batch done ASAP so you can buy one

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Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED

2009-12-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
How about Crooked Creek.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED
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Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHEDWhoops!!!
Arkansas - I totally blocked out the
area on the White near Cotter and the area below the dam in the same
general area.


Don't feel bad, Joe.  I did too.  That's got to be an
asterisk river too.


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Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug

2009-12-07 Thread Anthony Spezio
We will be glad to have you again.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
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Hi Tony,
Found the airport, but no flights. ... But the drive from springfield
isn't that bad G
Rene


Anthony Spezio wrote:
 There is a new Airport in Branson. Missouri. They have lower fares and
 it is only just over an hour from us instead of three hours like
 Springfield. We will even feed you on Friday night.
 Tony

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     From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de
     Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
     To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
     Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:02 AM

     Well gang,
     that would be a great trip. And, ... why not:
     from Europe they fly into 2 or 3 airports in the US which are relevant
     for us. maybe Chicago, Maybe Ford Worth. Arrange flight so that we can
     meet there and take the last flight to Springfield together. Or
     maybe we
     can arrange to meet in Heathrow or Amsterdam.
     Share the rental car at Springfield plus fuel (Keith: You are not
     eligible to drive it, you Limeys are driving on the wrong (I SAY
     WRONG!!!) side of the road, maybe the cheesehead, he is used to these
     low speeds over there G). And do some fishing.
     Share a cabin Can reduce costs for the 3 of us.
     Kraut Rene

     Martin Westbeek wrote:
      And the experience was so good that I'd gladly make the small
      sacrifice of travelling with KP:-) We could ask Rene to join us and
      then we would sound like the opening line of one of those jokes: A
      limey, a cheesehead and a kraut are on a plane...
      Mart
     


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Re: [VFB] Jack Gartside dies

2009-12-08 Thread Anthony Spezio
I have one of Jack's Gurgglers he tied for me in exchange for a Froggie.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Jack Gartside dies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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Jack’s fly tying skills were legendary and his impressionistic patterns fooled 
fish of all species. Gurgler, Soft Hackle Streamer, BMG, Gartside Hopper, 
Firefly are just a few of the many unique patterns he developed - so often with 
materials discarded or overlooked by others.


http://www.reel-time.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69741

http://www.jackgartside.com/ 






 
 
 
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Re: [VFB] Had to share this one.

2009-12-08 Thread Anthony Spezio
Bob is a good friend, he was the one that suggested I get into the Fly Tying 
Show circuit many years ago. Bob was very instrumental in my being known in the 
tying circles. 
Arkansas Tony


--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:

From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: [VFB] Had to share this one.
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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Guys,
Had to share this- made my 
day.
This endorsement ranks right there with Tony's, as 
they are both equally famous.  All comments are important to 
me,
but those coming from famous tiers carry a lot of 
weight.  He's also been tying forever, so it 
really boosts my confidence.
For those who don't know Bob, he's an east-coast 
tier who is world-famous for his realistic patters, right up there with 
Blackstone, Whillock, and the others.
 
 
Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? 

Rope Dubbing is a well done DVD clearly demonstrating a variety of dubbing 
material techniques on the one thing that often gives tyers (and not just 
beginning tyers) trouble- the natural fur and synthetic material dubbing of 
a fly's body.  Don, a natural on camera, presents his quick and easy 
methods in an unpretentious, best friend demonstration that anyone watching 
should be able to pick up on their first try.  Especially interesting was 
the thicker/thinner corrections he employs to arrive at the desired thickness. 
Working a hackle in with the rope dubbing and thereby completing two tasks at 
the same time is nothing short of brilliant.  If you only buy one fly tying 
DVD this year, and are looking for something new that will make your tying 
hours 
easier, this is the one.   
 
Bob Mead

 
DonO
 

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Re: [VFB] FW: Advice

2009-12-09 Thread Anthony Spezio
Thanks Thomas,
 I have Adobe Reader installed. It just flashes and is gone. Tells me it can't 
read the attachment.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] FW: Advice
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 4:58 PM

you will need the adobe reader to open 
Thomas

Anthony Spezio schrieb:
 Will not open for me.
 Tony

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     see attached

      

     I couldn't stop laughing...J




     
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Re: [VFB] FW: Advice

2009-12-09 Thread Anthony Spezio
Thanks Nick.
Tony

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Meddelande

Tony,
 
I made 
it as a picture file, so I could show my friends at the Swedish 
forum.
Here 
it is, so you don't have to bother with the Adobe file 
anymore.
 
/Nick

  
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  Advice


  


  Thanks Thomas,
 I have Adobe Reader installed. It 
just flashes and is gone. Tells me it can't read the 
attachment.
Tony

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Thomas R. Eckert 
royalcoach...@bluewin.ch wrote:


From: 
  Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch
Subject: Re: 
  [VFB] FW: Advice
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 
  December 9, 2009, 4:58 PM


  you will need the adobe reader to open 
  
Thomas

Anthony Spezio schrieb:
 Will not open 
  for me.
 Tony

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     Subject: [VFB] FW: Advice
  
     To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  
     Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:44 
  PM

     see 
  attached

      

  
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  laughing...J




  
     

  
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Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug

2009-12-10 Thread Anthony Spezio
And a lot of phone calls from Menphis to Springfield.
LOL
We had a good time though, will be glad to have you back
Tony.


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From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 6:47 AM

2008, when I was there, I flew to Memphis. From there I was going to fly to
Springfield, where Tony was going to pick me up. I don't remember for what
reason, but Tony said that he might not be able to come right away (it might
have been the time) and I should be prepared to stay at motel in Springfield
to be picked up the following day. Well, I was met by a blizzard in Memphis.
Almost all departures (or all) got cancelled. So I had to stay at the
airport over night. They were handing out mattresses and blankets. People
were sleeping everywhere and the airport looked more like a homeless shelter
than anything else.

And as finishing touch to the story: Tony and Mike DID decide to come to
Springfield the same day as planned... so instead of me spending the night
in Springfield waiting for them, they were the ones ending up in a motel
waiting for me. LOL

/Nick


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Hi Tony,
Found the airport, but no flights. ... But the drive from springfield isn't
that bad G Rene


Anthony Spezio wrote:
 There is a new Airport in Branson. Missouri. They have lower fares and
 it is only just over an hour from us instead of three hours like 
 Springfield. We will even feed you on Friday night. Tony

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     From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de
     Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
     To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
     Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:02 AM

     Well gang,
     that would be a great trip. And, ... why not:
     from Europe they fly into 2 or 3 airports in the US which are relevant
     for us. maybe Chicago, Maybe Ford Worth. Arrange flight so that we can
     meet there and take the last flight to Springfield together. Or
     maybe we
     can arrange to meet in Heathrow or Amsterdam.
     Share the rental car at Springfield plus fuel (Keith: You are not
     eligible to drive it, you Limeys are driving on the wrong (I SAY
     WRONG!!!) side of the road, maybe the cheesehead, he is used to these
     low speeds over there G). And do some fishing.
     Share a cabin Can reduce costs for the 3 of us.
     Kraut Rene

     Martin Westbeek wrote:
      And the experience was so good that I'd gladly make the small
      sacrifice of travelling with KP:-) We could ask Rene to join us and
      then we would sound like the opening line of one of those jokes: A
      limey, a cheesehead and a kraut are on a plane...
      Mart
     


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Re: [VFB] Tony DVD

2009-12-13 Thread Anthony Spezio
Chuck,
As long as you mention my DVD's here I will mention I have a two DVD set on 
tying, with tying tips and materials for each fly.  It includes step by step 
tying of the Knitpikin Mayfly, Chili Pepper, Epoxy Minnow and Tony's Froggie 
among others, a total of nine flies. Anyone interested, contact me off list 
at bambot...@yahoo.com for information. Please keep it off list
Tony

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wrote:

From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbers respond
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 2:41 AM



 
 

DonO; One thing I learned right off the bat is that your last name is 
pronounced Ordes, not OrdEEz like I always thought it was. I had 
pronounced 
it with a hard E ever since I met you LOL. Same with Tony before I watched his 
videos. I thought his name was SpEEzio not Spehzio like he pronounces it. 
Learn something every day huh??? Chuck
 
 Chuck
 
 
Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at:
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  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:12 
  AM
  Subject: [VFB] Rope-dubbers respond
  

  Well, just about everyone who ordered DVDs should 
  have them by now (two in route), and most have had at least a week to view 
and 
  try out the techniques- either for the 1st time, improvement , or extension 
of 
  the technique.
   
  Would like to get some comments:
  
Your thoughts on the DVD and ease of transition 
into tying- 
Your first tries at rope-dubbing- 
Your re-tries (re-ties) at rope-dubbing and the 
extensions- 
Your overall opinion of the results you're 
getting:  ease of adaptation, speed, dubbing results, fun, 
etc.
  If you're having a problem, go ahead and bring it 
  out.  Don't be shy.  I spent an entire afternoon at a fly-show with 
  a 25 year veteran professional tier/guide coaching him on getting a perfect 
  rope-dubbed dry fly body.  His problem- doing it so long one way made him 
  want to do it the same way.
   
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Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...Nick

2009-12-15 Thread Anthony Spezio
Nick,
I told Don about the same thing, the two thumbs is the answer. I guess I was 
dubbing like you were and had the same results. I got a quick look at Don 
dubbing in March of 06 but it was just a glance as I was real busy with the 
show.
I have not been able to do much since I got the DVD and have not tried to Rope 
Dub yet. I had a light stroke, I will be going in for surgery tomorrow for 
something else and will see about doing some while recovering.
Tony

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote:

From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...Nick
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 3:31 PM



 
Meddelande

 

Thanks. It's a two color in one rope... but it wasn't 
in 30-45 seconds. It was possible to actually make it, but it 
wasn't as easy as it would have been with Ice Dub. Maybe after a few 
other ones. LOL
 
I had 
understood the basics of how the technique WORKS and I have done 
quite a lot of rope dubbed flies (including your caseless caddis)... but 
my bad before seing the DVD has been the technique 
to actually build the rope. My way has been different from 
yours (for years). 
 
Bad 1: 
I've been sitting with the bobbin in one 
hand (right) working the rope with the other (thread towards me), which 
means working mostly the tip part of the noodle... a single hand rope-dub. 

Bad 2: 
When starting up, this has meant one-handed wrapping the noodle around the 
thread to get it spiraled before beginning to twist holding the 
tip. With short fibred dubbing, the noodle will fall into 
pieces in two seconds. Squirrel yeah, right!!
 
This way works great with Ice-Dub, Crystal Seal, Fly-Rite and a few 
others that I have... soft and/or long fibres... really co-operative dubbing 
noodles which hold together while being wrapped. Since it worked so good 
with these, I just accepted the fact that it wasn't really a 
short/stiff dubbing thing... and since I had accepted that, I wasn't in a 
search mode when I read that article either. I already knew my way and it 
worked fine to me, so I was just taking in what I could ADD to 
it.
 
But the way I saw now... working the 
rope with TWO opposable thumbs... was a revelation for sure. The 
second I saw how you started working the rope with two hands, I felt that chill 
running down the back of my body. 
Aaaha..
 
There is a really funny (or sad) thing about this 
story. Fact is, that I knew enough to crack this myself... and I have known 
it since March 2006!!! When I met you at Sowbug, I saw that you did it 
different from how I did it. I saw that you didn't hold the bobbin the way I 
did 
it... but in my head, it wasn't more than that we did the same thing 
with our threads in different angles. My focus was on meeting you and not 
look deeper into how you did the rope dub. (I already knew how it was done.) 
When I got home, I just continued my way... still knowing that you did it 
your way. If I had only TRIED to hold it your way... with the thread 
through my hand and the bobbin hanging freely... I'm sure that two-thumb 
secret would have been cracked quite easily. So that chill I felt this 
morning wasn't only an Aha that's how he does it!!.. but actually 
more of a That's WHY he does 
it!!.
 
/Nick
 
 
 
 

  
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Ämne: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub 
  result...Nick


  Nick, 
  Nice fly!!!
  That one is ready to fish, and with a bead-head 
  it would be a nice bead-head fly.  LOL
   
  Did you do the two (3?) colors in one rope, 
  or two steps?  That should be a 30 to 45-second fishing fly.  
  
   
  Glad you like it.  Just about everyone has a 
  portion of the rope-dub down from the VFB article, but everyone says they 
have 
  benefitted greatly from the DVD.
   
  DonO
   
   
  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
Niclas Runarsson 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:53 
AM
Subject: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...


I got the DVD 
yesterday. It was a big Aha!!! I have had the technique explained to 
me 
in 
text 

format 
once, 
but it seems that I had misunderstood some. That's why 
I have only used it with a 
limited number 
of 
materials. But now the pieces fell into place... and I 
understood what he had 
meant with the 
words 'easy' and 'simple'. and 'using any form of'.
 
I have a 
squirrel dubbing that has seemed like it was made for the purpose of giving 
me headache. 
Short, stiff and 
sticky... and the noodles have been breaking into fragments 
and 
fallen of the thread. 
If someone, 
yesterday, had told me that it was possible to make 
a rock 
hard and 

Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...

2009-12-15 Thread Anthony Spezio
Nick,
That is a patch of Russian Seal from Dot's fur  coat that I hated. She had that 
coat before I even knew her. Finally one day she said to dump it. I cut it up 
and gave a lot of it away. Some of the old timers before this list have chunks 
of it when I gave away bags of fur to whoever wanted it.
Glad to see it being used.
Tony

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote:

From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:49 PM



 
Meddelande

 

And 
not to forget the BONUS that came with this DVD:
 
For 
the Fanatic Swap I'm currently tying a fly with a wing of something that Tony 
gave me in a (quite 
full) 
Bits  Pieces bag, when I stayed at his house. I had no idea what 
it was. I sat in front of the TV 

and 
saw him fiddling with a black hair patch, saying I believe this is Russian 
Sable... long dense 
underfur and very few guard hairs... and then saw the 
bunch of hairs after he had cut it... I felt that 
chill 
again. THAT'S THE 'JOHN DOE' PATCH THAT'S LYING BY MY 
VISE!!!
 
So, 
thank's DonO. The DVD made my day... twice!!
 
/Nick
 
 

  
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Ämne: Re: [VFB] 
  Rope-Dub result...


  Nick: Thanks a  lot. I'll order some. The price is right as well, 
  Chuck
   
  
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From: 
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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:56 
PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub 
result...


A quick search in the 'IMDB' (not the 
Internet Movie Data Base... but in the Infamous Material Data Base) 
shows that it is a dubbing from Wapsi called 'Natural Nymph Blend' (80% 
squirrel - 20% rabbit). It was bought in a sport shop in Gävle in Sweden. I 
can't find the dubbing in Wapsi's product catalogue though. But I found it 
here: 
http://shopflyfishingspecialties.com/wapsi-squirrel-dubbing-pr-16669.html
 
/Nick

  
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Ämne: Re: [VFB] 
  Rope-Dub result...


  Nick: That is an awesome looking fly. It looks JUST LIKE a certain 
  insect that I'm trying to place but can't right now. A hellmagranite??? 
Or 
  a certain type stonefly?? I can't find the book I found it in right now, 
  but it looks IDENTICAL to that particular insect. Where do you get that 
  squirrel dubbing??? Can you make it yourself?? Thanks, Chuck
   Chuck
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Niclas Runarsson 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 
11:53 AM
Subject: [VFB] Rope-Dub 
result...


I got the 
DVD yesterday. It was a big Aha!!! I have had the technique 
explained to me in text 
format 
once, but it seems that I had 
misunderstood some. That's why I have only 
used it with a 
limited 
number of materials. But now the pieces fell into 
place... and I understood 
what he had 
meant with 
the words 'easy' and 'simple'. and 'using any form 
of'.
 
I have a 
squirrel dubbing that has seemed like it was made for the purpose of 
giving me headache. 
Short, stiff 
and sticky... and the noodles have been breaking into fragments 
and 
fallen of the thread. 
If someone, 
yesterday, had told me that it was possible to make 
a 
rock hard and segmented body 
out of that 
one, I would have answered: Of course... laminate sand and 
you 
can make a rock hard 
and 
segmented body out of that too.
 
Watched the 
DVD around 3 o'clock this morning (didn't yawn once). 
Today I dug 
out that 
squirrel, just to give it a try (for the sake of it). 
First try attached...
 
GO 
DON! WHEN'S THE NEXT ONE COMING
 
/Nick
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Re: Photographing Flies Was... RE: [VFB] More rope dubbed flies

2009-12-18 Thread Anthony Spezio
Got a 404 Not Found
Tony

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Subject: Photographing Flies Was... RE: [VFB] More rope dubbed flies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 10:26 AM




 
 






If you have a hot shoe type flash, place a white
business envelope over it, and hold in place with a rubber band.  

   

Or try taping a white piece of a few small layers thick over your
smaller size flashes to cut down on the harshness of it. 

   

Or, invest in or DIY your own light box – and
use a bounce flash technique to get even lighting with no hard spots. 

   

http://www.google.ca/#hl=ensource=hpq=light+boxbtnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq=light+boxfp=ca7bc37eb6518610
 

   

RB 

   





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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:25 PM

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Subject: Re: [VFB] More rope dubbed flies 





   



I'd say you stood farther away and put the camera on zoom???
That's how I do shiny stuff??? Chuck 





  





  







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Sent: Friday, December 18,
2009 12:21 AM 





Subject: Re: [VFB] More rope
dubbed flies 





   





Taking
a pic of shiny synthetic flies takes some experimentation, especially with
the flash and lighting. 





  





Figure
out how I took this one.  LOL 





  





   





  







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Sent: Thursday, December
17, 2009 10:37 PM 





Subject: Re: [VFB] More rope
dubbed flies 





   





Don: i just did this fly and it seemed to segment better for
me and I like the taper a LOT better than my other ones. This is the only hot
pink dubbing I had, so I just have to use it till I can order something
different. I like working with the ice dub though. I hate how the macro
setting on a nearly $500 camera  (Sony DSC-H2) shows off EVERY tiny
mistake though LOL.. Chuck 





  









 



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Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies

2009-12-19 Thread Anthony Spezio
Chuck,
Are they still available.
Tony

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I bought mine on ebay which is about 24 inches square for less than 20 
bucks, Chuck
 

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 12:24 
  PM
  Subject: [VFB] RE: Photographing 
  Flies
  

  
  More 
  thoughts on this. 
     
  A 
  DIY Light box for under $40. I know my buddy 'Pacres' built one simillar and 
  it works great. But I could not be bothered 
  to 
  clutter my tying bench with more stuff. 
     
  
http://www.instructables.com/id/Do-It-Yourself-Photography-Light-Box-for-Under-40/
 
     
  And 
  really, we are talking about photographing small flies here after all, a 
piece 
  of paper rolled into a tube could also work 
  as 
  a 'Micro Light Box'. Check out this sample with a shiny lithium battery in it 
  for how well it works. 
     
  http://tinkerlog.com/2007/10/14/micro-light-box/ 
     
  I 
  personally use this contraption I had custom made for me, with an overhead 
  flourescent light, as my diffusor. 
     
  http://flyangler.ca/forum/index.php?showtopic=2527hl=photographing+flies 
     
  Finally, 
  low-tech, simply place them on a flatbed scanner – which works best for 
  streamers,  buggers, etc.. with a white  
  gummy 
  eraser to prop the lid up. Get great even lighting that way 
  too. 
     
  Hope 
  that helps. 
     
  Lance 
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RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies

2009-12-20 Thread Anthony Spezio
Thanks Jim,
I just dumped all the Lance Taylor messages. Had saved them to open  later.
Tony

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Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 2:29 PM




I opened one of the sources provided by Lance and my PC CRASHED! The source has 
a trojan/virus within. I lost my screen/desktop,  Microsoft is investigating 
the problem.

This is why I do not download videos, PPS or open attachments. A new PC with 6 
gigs memory, and a 650 gig harddrive now has to be gone thru. 

Hope you were unscathed.

Merry Christmas

Jim

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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:49:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies
From: ladyflyt...@gmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

I built a light box using Kyle Hand's instructions on the McFeathers.com site, 
however I had a shadow behind bog streamers, so this year I picked up a ring 
flash.  It solved the shadow problem and I can use it at shows with a piece of 
mat board as a background.  Actually I watched someone photograph everyone 
tying at Conclave and went to see just what he was using, sweet idea.

And don't look for a Brand name ring flash, the Nikon one is out of sight price 
wise, but there are a couple of ones in the $100 area, that work just as well

Peggy Brenner


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More thoughts on this.
 
A DIY Light box for under $40. I know my buddy 'Pacres' built one simillar and 
it works great. But I could not be bothered
to clutter my tying bench with more stuff.
 
http://www.instructables.com/id/Do-It-Yourself-Photography-Light-Box-for-Under-40/
 
And really, we are talking about photographing small flies here after all, a 
piece of paper rolled into a tube could also work
as a 'Micro Light Box'. Check out this sample with a shiny lithium battery in 
it for how well it works.
 
http://tinkerlog.com/2007/10/14/micro-light-box/
 
I personally use this contraption I had custom made for me, with an overhead 
flourescent light, as my diffusor.
 
http://flyangler.ca/forum/index.php?showtopic=2527hl=photographing+flies
 
Finally, low-tech, simply place them on a flatbed scanner – which works best 
for streamers,  buggers, etc.. with a white 
gummy eraser to prop the lid up. Get great even lighting that way too.
 
Hope that helps.
 
Lance




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RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies

2009-12-20 Thread Anthony Spezio
No reflection on Lance at all, things happen. I was glad you pointed it out to 
the list. I really wanted to open them but I was just not up to doing it then. 
I had just gotten home and had two days of mail to open. Thanks again Jim, it 
will help all of us. Sorry you had the misfortune of the computer crash.
Tony

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Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 4:28 PM




I don't think Lance knew that they were there. They were Trojans that were 
hidden and became activated after looking at the site.

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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:47:28 -0800
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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Thanks Jim,
I just dumped all the Lance Taylor messages. Had saved them to open  later.
Tony

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From: jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 2:29 PM




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I opened one of the sources provided by Lance and my PC CRASHED! The source has 
a trojan/virus within. I lost my screen/desktop,  Microsoft is investigating 
the problem.
This is why I do not download videos, PPS or open attachments. A new PC with 6 
gigs memory, and a 650 gig harddrive now has to be gone thru. 
Hope you were unscathed.
Merry Christmas
Jim
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:49:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies
From: ladyflyt...@gmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

I built a light box using Kyle Hand's instructions on the McFeathers.com site, 
however I had a shadow behind bog streamers, so this year I picked up a ring 
flash.  It solved the shadow problem and I can use it at shows with a piece of 
mat board as a background.  Actually I watched someone photograph everyone 
tying at Conclave and went to see just what he was using, sweet idea.

And don't look for a Brand name ring flash, the Nikon one is out of sight price 
wise, but there are a couple of ones in the $100 area, that work just as well

Peggy Brenner


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More thoughts on this.
 
A DIY Light box for under $40. I know my buddy 'Pacres' built one simillar and 
it works great. But I could not be bothered
to clutter my tying bench with more stuff.
 
http://www.instructables.com/id/Do-It-Yourself-Photography-Light-Box-for-Under-40/
 
And really, we are talking about photographing small flies here after all, a 
piece of paper rolled into a tube could also work
as a 'Micro Light Box'. Check out this sample with a shiny lithium battery in 
it for how well it works.
 
http://tinkerlog.com/2007/10/14/micro-light-box/
 
I personally use this contraption I had custom made for me, with an overhead 
flourescent light, as my diffusor.
 
http://flyangler.ca/forum/index.php?showtopic=2527hl=photographing+flies
 
Finally, low-tech, simply place them on a flatbed scanner – which works best 
for streamers,  buggers, etc.. with a white 
gummy eraser to prop the lid up. Get great even lighting that way too.
 
Hope that helps.
 
Lance



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Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies Now Jim Messages

2009-12-22 Thread Anthony Spezio
My reply messages to the VFB to Jim's messages come back in the Spam folder. 
I just click Not Spam and it goes to my In Box
Tony
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From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 12:25 AM



 
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Mine just did the same thing. When I sent that post about 
my computer blocking Jim's post, my own computer blocked that message from ME 
LOL. Go figure, Chuck
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Don Ordes 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:45 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing 
  Flies
  

  You know...I just got blocked by 
  my own pc, so it may not be Jim, but a 
  carry-over from Mark's smiley faces.  
  Some emails from Jim come in clean, so it depends on the 
  email that everyone is using to make their reply.
   
  We can rid ourselves of this by not replying to a 
  vfb email that gets a pop-up of phishing message.  Use a fresh email 
  or another one to reply to a blocked email.  I'll do a cut-paste of the 
  original to a new mail.  
   
  That will stop me blocking me, at least.  
  lol
   
  DonO
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Don Ordes 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:34 
PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing 
Flies


Chuck,
Jim uses programs that add little photo-things, and my 
pc won't pass them direct either.  It shows a pop-up blocker-type 
message and asks me if I want to open it. 
 
NOTE!  These, at least for my pc, carry over 
to replies, so Tony's reply to Jim and the vfb gets a blocker also.  I 
just hit the 'accept' button and allow it, because I know Jim.  Mark 
Romero created these also on every post- it was the yellow smiley-faces he 
used.
 
When I reply to these messages, I get the pop-up that 
pictures will not be added to the reply, even though there aren't any (they 
were blocked). 
I have to hit the 'send the darn thing anyway' 
button.  LOL
 
DonO

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chuck Alexander 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:59 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing 
  Flies
  

  Computers are weird. My AVG just caught this message 
  and said it was a phishing email (I guess it is since it's a 
  fishing  group LOL...But since you didn't ask for my personal info 
  etc, I guess the AVG was wrong... Go figure... I don't know how these 
  antivirals and filters etc work either cause I get emails marked as 
spam 
  from ppl all the time. I think the programs are set up to err on the safe 
  side, which I guess is a good thing, Chuck
   
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
jim phillips 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 
9:50 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: 
Photographing Flies

Allan
You are right. Lance - Sorry.
To put this to 
rest:
Lance DID NOT send out a virus. I must of had some trojans that 
were activated by something.
I have AVG Free. I have Microsoft 
Security programs. I just know nothing about computers
I am looking 
at the history to see if my daughter didn't download some music (MP3 
and/or videos).
This is what caused my other PC to crash; even with 
two external harddrives that she was to use for downloads.  If she 
was't 25, I would ground her.
Merry Christmas
Jim

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your fishing 
partner.  
 








  
  
 
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 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
 
From: afi...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing 
Flies
 
 
  This will be my last comment on 
this. I do not have the energy for 
 Sophmoric 
responses.
 
 Now that sounds like a 'flame' to 
me!
 
 C'mon guys, go off-list if you want to insult one 
another.
 
 
 FYI, a lot of Trojan Horse worms have 
a built-in delay - sometimes 
 several days or way more - so 
there's no way to tell where you got 
 it. So it's difficult to 
blame a particular website.
 
 Fortunately, you're doing 
the right thing by letting Microsoft investigate it.
 
 I 
checked Lance's URL's with both my Mac and my PC and both of them 

 said they are all 'clean'.
 
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Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd

2009-12-24 Thread Anthony Spezio
Can you send me a photo, never heard of that fly. I am originally from Jersey.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 8:37 AM

Hi all,
I wish you'all a nice and great Christmas Season.
It is a great time for us flytyer..
Found in a store yesterday the perfect copper tinsel for the Jersey Herd
pattern. A dark copper.
the original material for the body is hard to obtain. It is the closure
(cap) of a milk bottle, which is used in the shire Jersey. I have a
picture of the fly, and the color looks very close.

Have a good time

Rene and Family

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Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd

2009-12-25 Thread Anthony Spezio
Being that this is CHRISTMAS I will not rebuttal Allan. I am corrected. it is 
NOO JOISY where I is from.
That is one good looking fly. I guess I should tie some of them for Crooked 
Creek. I think for the White, an Orange body would also be good.
I want to wish all of the list a very happy and Safe CHRISTMAS Season.
Tony

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From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de
Subject: Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 5:33 AM

Hi Tony, Allan,
Merry Christmas to you.
Allan is right, the Jersey Herd is from the shire Jersey in England. And
the link is excellent, the picture I have in my book is pretty close to
the one in the link.
I got some hooks from Anna for Christmas, and a new camera from my wife.
Should i ty a Jersey Herd and post it...?
Rene




Allan Fish wrote:
 Correction, Tony, you're from NEW Jersey.  Jersey in in England!  g

 And here's the pattern on-line:
 http://www.fish4flies.com/Lures/Fry_and_Small_Fish_Patterns/Jersey_Herd

 Cheers,
 a.

 Can you send me a photo, never heard of that fly. I am originally
 from Jersey.
 Tony

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     From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de
     Subject: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd

     To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
     Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 8:37 AM

     Hi all,

     I wish you'all a nice and great Christmas Season.
     It is a great time for us flytyer..
     Found in a store yesterday the perfect copper tinsel for the
     Jersey Herd
     pattern. A dark copper.
     the original material for the body is hard to obtain. It is the
     closure
     (cap) of a milk bottle, which is used in the shire Jersey. I have a
     picture of the fly, and the color looks very close.

     Have a good time

     Rene and Family

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Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd

2009-12-25 Thread Anthony Spezio
Please do.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 7:29 AM

I got some hooks from Anna for Christmas, and a new camera from my wife.
Should i ty a Jersey Herd and post it...?

Bitte!

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Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd

2009-12-25 Thread Anthony Spezio
Just opened it again from the link below, it popped right up.
No waiting this time for the photo.
Tony

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From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de
Subject: Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 5:33 AM

?
Rene




Allan Fish wrote:
 Correction, Tony, you're from NEW Jersey.  Jersey in in England!  g

 And here's the pattern on-line:
 http://www.fish4flies.com/Lures/Fry_and_Small_Fish_Patterns/Jersey_Herd

 Cheers,
 a.

 Can you send me a photo, never heard of that fly. I am originally
 from Jersey.
 Tony

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     From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de
     Subject: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd

     To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
     Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 8:37 AM

     Hi all,

     I wish you'all a nice and great Christmas Season.
     It is a great time for us flytyer..
     Found in a store yesterday the perfect copper tinsel for the
     Jersey Herd
     pattern. A dark copper.
     the original material for the body is hard to obtain. It is the
     closure
     (cap) of a milk bottle, which is used in the shire Jersey. I have a
     picture of the fly, and the color looks very close.

     Have a good time

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Re: [VFB] Fly Fishing stuff for Christmas

2009-12-27 Thread Anthony Spezio
If you can send me some photos, I might be able to help you identify them,
Jimmy also has some background on bamboo rods.
Tony

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From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net mystikalra...@frontiernet.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Fly Fishing stuff for Christmas
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 11:32 PM

Well Santa didnt get me any fly tying material like i ask for lol so still 
looking for dyed goose feathers lol im just going to have to break down and get 
some from feathersmc.com wow nobody in my family listend to me or read my list 
so the got me an audio system for the house  now what am i going to do with 
that while im tying flies lol i just dont know lol but anyways i was given from 
a friend that found 3 old bamboo fly rods each are 3 piece units b ut they dont 
have oll the furles on them so oh well all i know is there old lol and one of 
them had a 1943 pfluger level line real on it in prety good condition and on 
the other one a pflugger fly reel not sure of the date on it but will try and 
find out about them so for now there all put up in the display rack lol will 
take some pics and post them soon hope everybody got something good lol

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From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net
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Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 6:28:20 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [VFB] Fly Fishing stuff for Christmas

I'm curious.  What did Santa bring you in the way of fly fishing stuff.
I got a neat pair of Korkers wading boots.  Wow! these ain't your
Uncle Marvins kind of boots.  Talk about Hi Tech!  Got a Carhart
canvas vest, a battery operated filet knife, a Dr. Schol's foot massager
for when I come in off the stream, a vibrating, pulsating chair seat for
my poor back after wading all day.

But - I didn't get a single fly rod, not that I need any more.  I have
20 right now.  Call me a hoarder, but you just can't have too many
fly rods.  Same goes for fly reels.

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Re: [VFB] blending dubbing

2009-12-30 Thread Anthony Spezio
This was an old way to blend dubbing less the softener. A bit messy but it 
worked.
Tony

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From: mel hocken softhac...@shaw.ca
Subject: Re: [VFB] blending dubbing
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 5:28 PM



 
 

DonO
I used to blend dubbing in a 
friut jar. Along with the water and dubbing to be blended I used to add a pinch 
of fabric softener. This would  allow the fibers of the dubbing to slid a 
bit more freely allowing the dubbing to blend thoroughly. Just close 
the lid and shack the heck out of it. Rinse well and let 
dry.
Happy New Year 

Mel

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  Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:59 
  PM
  Subject: [VFB] blending dubbing
  

  I just tried something that worked well.  
  Has anyone else done this?  Beats getting dubbing in my espresso via my 
  coffee grinder.  I found one hit on the internnet so it is not novel, but 
  I also don't think it is as common as the coffee grinder method.
   
  I needed to blend some rabbit-dubbing with some 
  ice-dub, flash dub,  quick descent.  I needed a good blend and no 
  lumps in the blend.  So I filled up a tupperware dish about the size of a 
  coffee-cup with hot tap-water.  I added the rabbit dubbing and then 
  chopped up the other 3 dubbings over the container.
   
  I stirred until everything broke up and was a 
  well blended soup, than I drained almost all of the water out, leaving the 
  dubbing.  I stirred it one more time to make sure the quick-descent was 
  mixed in, then I poured it all out through a paper towel to strain it and 
then 
  used the paper towel to soak up all of the extra water.  
   
  The result was a damp glob of well-blended 
  hilited part-natural dubbing.  Working with it damp gave me a very tight 
  well-defined segment.  But I'm letting the rest dry so I can fluff it a 
  bit and tie some fuzzy hares ears that have cool colors mixed in with the 
  rabbit.  These colors will accentuate the segments more and give the fly 
  some flash in place of the gold rib, which always get bitten 
  loose.
   
  DonO
   
   
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[VFB] HAPPY NEW YEAR

2010-01-01 Thread Anthony Spezio
Let us hope the New Year will be better for all of us.
It has been a good year and a not so good year for some of us bet we can all 
hope for a better one.
Arkansas Tony



  

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Re: [VFB] BETTER NEW YEAR?

2010-01-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
It was a bad one fore me, four light strokes, two surgeries and weeks of rehab 
and therapy.
Only four times on the water. Missed  tying at several shows. It has to be a 
better one this year.
Tony

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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 10:38 AM



 
 

Yes, good riddance to 2009.  My income was 
1/6th of what it was in 2008.
 
2010 did not start off well for me, though, as my 
friend Mark passed away Thursday morning.  He was recovering (but still 
kept under by sedation) when his brain started to swell and there was nothing 
they could do other than leave him as a vegatable.  His loss will create 
many challenges for me, besides losing an associate and friend.  I never 
got a chance to deliver his DVD to him, so I'll set it aside and retire the 
serial number in his name.
 
So, I'm looking forward to the fly shows in Denver 
next weekend- the Furimski Show and the ISE.  We'll find out what the 
financial trend is for the start of 2010, as the industry will take it's 
own temperature.
 
Is anyone on the list in the Denver area planning 
to make these shows?
 
DonO

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2009 Good riddance. We could all use a fresh start. Here 
  is hoping the very best for everyone!
  

  Scott Bearden


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Let us hope the New Year will be better for all of 
  us.
It has been a good year and a not so good year for some of us 
  bet we can all hope for a better one.
Arkansas 
  Tony


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Re: [VFB] Article: Should You Learn How To Tie Flies For Fly Fishing?

2010-01-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
Just checked it out
I have to agree
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Article: Should You Learn How To Tie Flies For Fly Fishing?
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Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 9:52 AM

This is spam.


On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Ricky Burns ryb7...@gmail.com wrote:

Found this nice article I would like to share . . .

===



Learn More About Tying Flies At: http://www.howtotieflies.info

My name is Emmett Gregg, and I am a professional fly fishing
instructor, and author of The Complete Illustrated Guide: How To Tie


Flies. I come from a family of fly fishermen(my grandfather, my father
etc.), and my grandfather was a master of the art of tying flies.
Naturally, his secret techniques on how to tie flies were passed down
to my father, and then to me. His secrets were never revealed until


now, since I have published The Complete Illustrated Guide: How To Tie
Flies. Here are some things to consider about tying your own flies for
fly fishing.

Concerning fly fishing, it is naturally all about the flies, and tying


flies can be a tricky, tedious thing to do if you choose to try it. In
regards to tying, it is important that you have a still hand and a
fairly good idea what the trout will be attracted to, so they will
bite more often. Naturally, you will need to research these things and


trial and error would also have to be used. However, if you know what
the main diet of a trout, then you will have a great idea of what you
will need when figuring out how to tie flies to catch a fair amount of

trout.


Learning how to tie flies is generally thought of as the definitive
test when it comes to fly fishing. Sure, you could go out and buy a
good spinner or spoon to add to your collection. This would of course
cost a bit of money. Then again, you could also take the extra step


and tie your own flies. Contrary to what you may think, it does not
take that long to learn how to tie flies and attract trout
effectively. The important and obvious thing to remember is, if the
fly does not look right, chances are the trout will not bite. This is


why knowing how to tie flies is pertinent – the process cannot be
rushed and no corners can be cut.

No one has claimed that tying flies is the easiest thing in the world.
But, it is not as hard as most people claim it to be. A lot of people


are even scared to begin learning how to tie flies, because some
people they know may take hours to complete one fly. This turns a lot
of people off, so they simply rely on the pros to sell their flies to
them, or go to their local sporting goods store and take their chances


on the quality of flies sold there. The expenses incurred here –
whether you purchase from a pro or a sporting goods shop – are
actually unnecessary.

Once you learn how to tie flies easily, quickly, and effectively, you


will undoubtedly save a lot of money.

Your only upfront expense will be in purchasing the necessary tooling
for tying flies. Once you get the hang of it, which will not take
long, you will then have the ability to tie a lot of flies in a


relatively short period of time, and save a whole lot of money in the
process. Sure, if you have no guidance or don't have someone teaching
you how to tie flies, then the task will be tedious and frustrating.


However, if this is something you truly would like to do, then with
the proper guidance and practice, you could master the art of how to
tie flies faster than you may think it is possible.

My name is Emmett Gregg, and I am a professional fly fishing


instructor, and author of The Complete Illustrated Guide: How To Tie
Flies. I come from a family of fly fishermen(my grandfather, my father
etc.), and my grandfather was a master of the art of tying flies.
Naturally, his secret techniques on how to tie flies were passed down


to my father, and then to me. His secrets were never revealed until
now, since I have published The Complete Illustrated Guide: How To Tie
Flies. Here are some things to consider about tying your own flies for
fly fishing.



Learn More About Tying Flies At: http://www.howtotieflies.info

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Re: [VFB] Join Please

2010-01-02 Thread Anthony Spezio
We have you in Arkansas 
Tony

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I'm attempting a email address change

PeggyB

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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books

2010-01-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
I guess I have about 600 books on Fly Fishing and Fly Tying. I have a good 
number inscribed to me. I have been told that that lowers the value. In some 
cases I have photos of the author signing the book. I have put these photos in 
the book. I am not worried about what the books are worth at this time but 
there might be a time when I will need to let them go.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 12:19 AM



 
 

There will be a string of numbers in sequence near 
the bottom of the page. so if it were the number two it indicates a second 
printing. first printings will have the number one in the string of numbers. 
keep your books out of direct sun light, room temp around 72 degrees and 
humidity in the low 50s. put them up right and never pack them in  tight as 
this will cause the boards (covers) to warp. If the book hangs over the edge of 
the shelf lay it flat so there is no over hang.
Martink's books are very collectable just lay them 
flat.
An inscribed book seems to have more value because 
the person was present when it was signed or was a person known to the author 
and he/she took more time to personalize the book.
many times a signed book can be bought from a book 
dealer.  Something I have seen several times, and have one by Steve Raymond 
is a signed paste in card with the authors signature on it.
For me to paste into his book!  To me that is 
the height of laziness.   Many of my books are inscribed to 
Diane.  I had them done that way as I expected her to out live me.  
She passed away five years ago from ovarian cancer.  The only time the to 
will really increase the price is when the book is inscribed to someone more or 
less famous.
Chuck is right about the dust jackets. Some 
collectors go to the extreme of storing them separate and 
flattened.
Any sunlight will cause fading over time even 
indirect light, so pick your site for your bookcases with care.
Gary S.
 
From: Pacres 

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:40 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly 
  Fishing Books
  

  Gary, 
   
  I recently picked up a copy of John Gierach's Signs of Life (signed), and 
  a few other hard to find books. From what I can tell, this is a first 
  edition (not sure how to find out about first printing). Anyhow just 
wondering 
  for book, how do you store them if they are worth a few bucks? 
   
  What about self published books like Mike Martinek's 2 volumes of 
  streamer patterns or some of the local fishing clubs booklets etc? I really 
  just buy what I like, but always try to find signed copies. 
   
  I'm also curious to know why a copy that is inscribed worth more 
  than one just simply signed. Curious because I though it may have been the 
  opposite and also that most of my signed book are inscribed, but mostly to 
  other people. 
   
  Darren


  On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net 
  wrote:

  

Gary: You got that right about Amazon seller 
(some of them) and grading books. I have sold books for 25 years from flea 
markets, yard sales, to Amazon, to Abe books, to half.com. And I always try 
to list mine  one 
condition BELOW what it actually is, so that the customer will probably be 
happy.On the other hand, I have ordered books that sellers have graded as 
Very good condition and I get the book, and I would not even list is as 
Acceptable. Pages torn, loose, or missing, writing in the 
book. Binding falling apart. Water stains (that REALLY makes me mad 
when ppl omit those). And, like you said, the tobacco smoke.. Most all my 
customers ask me about that. The closest I've ever come to getting rid of 
it 
is to seal the book in a gallon zip lock bag and put in a cpl  scented 
dryer sheets. and leave them in the bag a few days. But I also put paper 
towels between the book's covers and the dryer sheets so any moisture from 
the sheets don't stain the cover or dust jacket. Oh, that's another one. 
ppl 
not listing missing dust jackets.  Chuck
 

  
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  Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 
  10:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly 
  Fishing Books
  

  Mel
  Yes paid $150 for it .  you make a good 
  point.  Technically they are first editions. but, most 
  collectors want first printings.  There are allot of fly fishing 
  books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe the 
  condition of their book.  One of the first questions to ask the 
  seller is if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible 
  to remove the smell of tobacco smoke or mildew 

Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books

2010-01-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
Peggy,
is this the book by Mike Valla.
Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done.
Tony


The Catskill Fly book is great.


Peggy B

mel hocken wrote:
 */Gary/*
 */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as 
 first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to 
 be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true 
 first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research 
 before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first 
 edition./*
 */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many 
 of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I 
 thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading 
 I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book 
 you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/*
 */Regards/*
 */Mel/*
 

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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books

2010-01-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
Mart,
I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'.
I have not heard of that name.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
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Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 10:21 AM



 
 

That is a great book indeed. A must-have if there 
ever was one. 
I got it for Christmas, together 
with Takahasi's Modern Midges
Mart
 

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  Spezio 
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  Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly 
  Fishing Books
  

  


  Peggy,
is this the book by Mike Valla.
Mike and I 
are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well 
done.
Tony


  

The Catskill Fly book is 
  great.


Peggy B

mel hocken wrote:
 
  */Gary/*
 */Some good info. I would like to add that newer 
  books may be listed as 
 first edition but when you look at the 
  print code you find the book to 
 be a 2nd 3rd or even higher 
  printing. These are not considered a true 
 first edition. So 
  if you are buying a book be sure to do your research 
 before 
  paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first 
  
 edition./*
 */I have about 400 books in my library. 
  Most are first editions and many 
 of the newer ones are 
  signed. There are some great modern writers that I 
 thoroughly 
  enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading 
 
  I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book 
  
 you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling 
  Society?/*
 */Regards/*
 */Mel/*
 

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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books

2010-01-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
Thanks Pete,
Looks like a book I have to have. I think I bought a book from Anglers Roost 
this past summer. It was Dry Flies by, I can't spell his name., It was also 
Japanese.
Tony

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Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 11:26 AM

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

Mart,
I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'.

I have not heard of that name.
Tony I'm not Mart, but I'll chip in my 2 cents: It is called Modern Midges: 
Tying  Fishing the World's Most Effective Patterns, by Rick Takahashi and 
Jerry Hubka.
(the Takahashi was missing an H at the end previously, in case you googled it)

My 2 cents are that it is a great book for any and all things midge (eh, 
chironomids - midge, larvae, AND adult)
I think the pattern count that was promoted was 1013 patterns? something 
unworldly like that - but it isn't just a tying pattern book.  Case in point, 
the last 40-something pages are a sort of tips and tricks from 
pros, panel discussion of sorts - quite worth it for that alone.

There are some 'sample pages' sites out there - assuming OK to post a link here 
(not just 'ok by the list rules' but 'ok by the copyright rulings and 
such'):http://www.flytyingclips.com/takahashi/katonk.html
Amazon (no affiliation obviously) has it 
here:http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Midges-Fishing-Effective-Patterns/dp/1934753009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1250039910sr=1-1#reader
Absolutely NO affiliation, but I think Angler's Roost has some agreement or 
something, so they can get you a signed copy.  (Rick is the guy in the photo at 
the link below)  
http://www.anglers-roost.com/Contact/index.htm
Just my opinions, and just trying to help you out.Tight wraps,
-Pete




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[VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'

2010-01-04 Thread Anthony Spezio
We have about 5 of snow. It this area, that is a lot. For those that have been 
to my house, you know about the mile hill. We are snowed in. For months the 
river has been high with the dam releasing a lot of water. The coldest days 
that we have had, they have shut down in the mornings adding insult to 
injuries. Looking at low water  when the temps are in the teens is not too 
inviting, at least not at my age..
Arkansas Tony

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Subject: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
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Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 2:03 AM







 



  



  
  
  


Well folks: I have wanted to go fishing ever since 
my last trip out LOL.. It's 18 degrees here right now, with a wind-chill  
in the single digits. So, I'm going fishing in my boat, in my shorts, in a tee 
shirt, and in flip flops...Last time I did this, I caught a box of frozen fish 
sticks... Talk later LOL, Chuck
 
 
 



 


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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books

2010-01-04 Thread Anthony Spezio
I will have to get the books out and make that inscription. LOL
Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a notation about a friend or as a 
fly tyer.
Does that make me famous, I guess not.
Tony

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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing
BooksGary: What I was
saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author
X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it
were just signed by Author X than if it were signed
To Chuck, Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want
MY name in it, you only want the authors name in it. That's what I was
saying in Tony's case. Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the
author, a book signed withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more
money on the open market. Chuck


Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony
Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more.  :-)


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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books

2010-01-04 Thread Anthony Spezio
DAA
I AM?
Got to be kidding.
LOL
Tony

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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
 
I think you are qualified to that 
title.
Gary S.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:04 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly 
  Fishing Books
  

  


  I will have to get the books out and make that 
inscription. LOL
Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a 
notation about a friend or as a fly tyer.
Does that make me famous, I 
guess not.
Tony

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From: 
  Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:27 
  PM


  
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  Gary: What I was 
saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It 
would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just 
signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck, 
Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want 
the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case. 
Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book 
signed 
withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open 
market. Chuck
  

  Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony 
  Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more.  :-)
  

  a.
  
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RE: [VFB] Fly Fishing Books Getting off topic

2010-01-04 Thread Anthony Spezio
If you say so, but you need to convince my wife.
Tony

--- On Mon, 1/4/10, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote:

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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books






Be thankful. You’re famous, while I’m merely
infamousJ 

   



From:
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Anthony
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Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:53 PM

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books 



   


 
  
  DAA

  I AM?

  Got to be kidding.

  LOL

  Tony

  

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  From: the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net

  Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books

  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

  Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:06 PM 
  
  
  I
  think you are qualified to that title. 
  
  
  Gary
  S. 
  
  
  
  -
  Original Message -  
  
  
  From: Anthony Spezio  
  
  
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com  
  
  
  Sent: Monday, January
  04, 2010 10:04 AM 
  
  
  Subject: Re: [VFB] First
  Edition Fly Fishing Books 
  
  
     
  
  
   

I will have to get the books out and make that
inscription. LOL

Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a notation about a friend or
as a fly tyer.

Does that make me famous, I guess not.

Tony



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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:27 PM 


Gary:
What I was saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author
X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were
just signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck,
Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you
only want the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case.
Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book signed
withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open market.
Chuck 


   


Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good
friend Tony Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more.  :-) 


   


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Re: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'

2010-01-06 Thread Anthony Spezio
Peggy, 
You have been here and you know how far south we are. Tomorrow through 
Saturday, the wind chill will be in the Minus numbers Friday morning is could 
be minus 6, that is not the wind chill.. More snow has already started, we 
expect another 4 inches. The cold is breaking all records in this area.
to make this fishing related, Tied a few Chili Peppers yesterday.
Tony.

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From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 8:40 PM

Chuck aren't you in Louisiana or somewhere warm?

I mean I expect to be cold, and as I don't ice fish, have to work and tye flies 
all winter!

Peggy

Chuck Alexander wrote:
 I'll tell ya how unseasonably cold it's been here lately. Some of the 
 shallower lakes and ponds are freezing over, Chuck
 
     - Original Message -
     *From:* Bob Scarbrough mailto:a69ju...@hotmail.com
     *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
     *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:43 AM
     *Subject:* RE: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
 
     -9 with -25 wind chill snows supposed to come tomorrow another 4-5
     inches, YAY!  :)
          

     Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:38:59 +
     From: haerb...@comcast.net mailto:haerb...@comcast.net
     To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
     Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
 
     Sounds like we are having a heat wave here (MI) 11* and light snow
 
     BobH
 
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     From: J Balmer jbal...@a5.com
     To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
     Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 9:22:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
     Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
 
     It was -3 when I started the Jeep this AM. That’s why God invented
     ice hutsJ
 
      
     *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]
     *On Behalf Of *Bob Scarbrough
     *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:33 AM
     *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
     *Subject:* RE: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
 
      
     Here in Iowa its been bitter cold below zero at night and not much
     warmer during the day.  And now supposed to get more snow.  Im ready
     to move, but wait, no where to go, its stupid cold all over!   :)
      
     
 
     From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net
     To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
     Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
     Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:09:09 -0600
 
     It's supposed to reach here by Thursday and snow on into Friday with
     a high Friday of 15 and a low Thursday night/Fri. morning of 8. And
     up here on the mt. you can knock off a few degrees off those
     numbers. To cold for a Southern boy LOL Chuck
 
      
      
         - Original Message -
 
         *From:* Anthony Spezio mailto:bambot...@yahoo.com
 
         *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
         mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ;
         flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com
         mailto:flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com
 
         *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2010 7:24 AM
 
         *Subject:* [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
 
          
         We have about 5 of snow. It this area, that is a lot. For those
         that have been to my house, you know about the mile hill. We are
         snowed in. For months the river has been high with the dam
         releasing a lot of water. The coldest days that we have had,
         they have shut down in the mornings adding insult to injuries.
         Looking at low water  when the temps are in the teens is not too
         inviting, at least not at my age..
         Arkansas Tony
 
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         From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net
         Subject: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
         To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com, fly fishing for panfish
         flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com
         Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 2:03 AM
 
          
         Well folks: I have wanted to go fishing ever since my last trip
         out LOL.. It's 18 degrees here right now, with a wind-chill  in
         the single digits. So, I'm going fishing in my boat, in my
         shorts, in a tee shirt, and in flip flops...Last time I did
         this, I caught a box of frozen fish sticks... Talk later LOL, Chuck
 
          
          
          
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[VFB] Re: Tiny Fly Question

2010-01-07 Thread Anthony Spezio





Chuck, 
This may rattle some but here is what I do with plastic beads of the right size 
that have no recess for the bend clearance. I normally have to do this for the 
plastic beads on the WRD. The plastic bead will not go around the bend, If I 
force it it will split. If I use a bigger bead it will block the eye. First I 
flatten the barb then straighten the bend a bit, slide the bead around the 
larger radius then bend the hook back to it's original shape. I make it a point 
not to over bend the hook. It only takes just of bit of straightening to get 
the bead to go around the bend. This is an extra step but it works for me.
Arkansas  Tony

--- On Wed, 1/6/10, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote:

From: Chuck
 Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net
Subject: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Tiny Fly Question
To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com, fly fishing for panfish 
flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 10:43 PM







 



  



  
  
  


OK all you tiny fly tying experts LOL.. I am 
stumped with a problem.. I took the advice of tying a bigger fly, then working 
my way down in hook sizes till I get to where I want. Problem is, I'm tying (or 
TRYING) my Pink Panfish Producer, and I'm down to a size 20. Problem is, the 
gold  bead for the head. The ones I have are either too small to go around 
the sharp bend in the hook, or they are too big, and they either fall right off 
the eye end of the fly, or get stuck, with the eye buried halfway inside the 
bead. I have tried the beads front wards, backwards and sideways. Is there a 
secret to this??? Should I just make the gold=bead head out of gold tying 
thread, or tiny tinsel?? Or do you just not tie flies this small with a bead 
head on them?? Thanks for ANY help, Chuck
 



 


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Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books

2010-01-07 Thread Anthony Spezio
Mart,
I ordered the Midge book, I have Mike's book. If you ever get to come back out 
here, I will have you sign the Midge book where your flies are.
Tony

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Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 12:22 PM



 
Yes,
Sorry for the typo. It is Rick Takahashi. He 
contacted me some 2 years ago and asked me to contribute some midge patterns 
for 
a book he was doing. So I tied and sent him some patterns, and sortof 
forgot about the whole thing. Recently he emailed me and told me that the book 
was ready, so I ordered it, along with Valla's Catskill book. I was *very* 
pleasantly surprised when I saw both books. 
The Midge book is an encyclopedia of midge biology, 
midge tying and fishing, chapters on materials nicely divided into patterns for 
the various stages.
And the Valla Catskill book was just as nice and 
informative, with lots of photos of the giants of the Catskill flies, their 
patterns, and the historic waters.
Mart

  - Original Message - 
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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:40 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly 
  Fishing Books
  

  


  Mart,
I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the 
author, would it be Takahasi'.
I have not 
heard of that name.
Tony

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wrote:


From: 
  Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Sunday, January 3, 2010, 10:21 AM


  
  

  That is a great book indeed. A must-have 
  if there ever was one. 
  I got it for Christmas, together 
  with Takahasi's Modern Midges
  Mart
   
  
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To: 
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Sent: 
Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:58 PM
Subject: 
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books



  
  
Peggy,
is this the book by Mike 
  Valla.
Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good 
  book. Very well done.
Tony

  


The Catskill Fly book is 
great.


Peggy B

mel hocken wrote:
 
*/Gary/*
 */Some good info. I would like to add that 
newer books may be listed as 
 first edition but when 
you look at the print code you find the book to 
 be 
a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered 
a true 
 first edition. So if you are buying a book 
be sure to do your research 
 before paying premium 
prices for a book which someone says is a first 
 
edition./*
 */I have about 400 books in my library. 
Most are first editions and many 
 of the newer ones 
are signed. There are some great modern writers that I 

 thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some 
great off season reading 
 I highly recommend W.D. 
Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book 
 you 
are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/*
 
*/Regards/*
 */Mel/*
 

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Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question now Sowbug

2010-01-08 Thread Anthony Spezio
We will think about you,
Tony

--- On Fri, 1/8/10, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote:

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question
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Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 12:00 AM

Tony,

I won't be coming this year. I wish I could but work is pretty heavy.  I will 
envy all who make it.

Mike

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wrote:








I agree Tony on the Eagle Claws and Mustads.. I 
used to do a lot of crappie fishing with live minnows and I'd use those two 
brands of hooks. And I'd get hung on  sunken trees etc, pull till the hook 
straightened out, reshape it, fish again and again and again.. Other brands I 
don't know about, Chuck
 

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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:59 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly 
Question
  

  


  Mike, I know this will worry some tyers and I am sure 
some hooks will be too brittle like the old VMC hooks. I have had no 
problems with the Eagle Claw hooks I use and most of the Mustads.. On 
some of the old Mustads, most that broke was when I pinched down the 
barb so I quit using them.Like I said, it works for me. I have not 
tried 
it with the real small hooks, sz 14 is the smallest I have done it 
with.
Are you going to make the Sowbug this year. Hope 
so.
Tony

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From: 
  Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Tiny 
  Fly Question
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, 
  January 7, 2010, 1:48 PM


  One of the things that Tony said was what I 
  would say - pinch the barb down.  Next get the right size bead 
  for the hook.  Glass is not as flexible but I have found that 
  they are not consistent with the sizes.  You can try several and 
  some will work and some won't.  Tony's idea of bending the hook 
  is interesting but I would worry about that causing metal 
  fatigue.  Someone smarter might be able to answer that. 
  

Mike



  On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Chuck Alexander 
  chuckalexan...@hughes.net 
  wrote:

  

OK all you tiny fly tying experts LOL.. 
I am stumped with a problem.. I took the advice of tying a bigger 
fly, then working my way down in hook sizes till I get to where I 
want. Problem is, I'm tying (or TRYING) my Pink Panfish Producer, 
and I'm down to a size 20. Problem is, the gold  bead for the 
head. The ones I have are either too small to go around the sharp 
bend in the hook, or they are too big, and they either fall right 
off the eye end of the fly, or get stuck, with the eye buried 
halfway inside the bead. I have tried the beads front wards, 
backwards and sideways. Is there a secret to this??? Should I just 
make the gold=bead head out of gold tying thread, or tiny 
tinsel?? 
Or do you just not tie flies this small with a bead head on them?? 
Thanks for ANY help, Chuck
 
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Re: [VFB] VFB Site

2010-01-08 Thread Anthony Spezio
If that works out, it would be good for all of us.
Tony

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If Byard is willing, I have lots of webspace I could host the archive on. There 
have been a couple sites that have disappeared over the past year or so that 
were a great source of information. 
 
Cheers
 
Darren


On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de 
wrote:

It would be really a shame, if we loose Byard and his site.
Is there any way to bring it up again? Maybe we find someone who is


willing to host the site.
Rene





Neville Gosling wrote:

 Hi Don:

 Do you know if all the fly tying recipies were saved? What about the swap
 images?
 It seems a real shame if all this information is lost or unaccessible.



 Neville (Nev) Gosling
 Greater Vancouver,
 B.C. Canada




 He wan not involved with the VFB site for some time, so he
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 He still has Linesend up for suscribers, though I don't know

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Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question- beads and barbs

2010-01-08 Thread Anthony Spezio
I could of used a set of them today.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question- beads and barbs
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Joyce good idea, I got a set of tools for working with beads for Christmas 
along with my invisible Nook for ebooks :)

The reamer, as it's called really does pretty good on Walmart brand glass beads,

Peggy

Joyce Westphal wrote:
 You can also find pointed type files in the beadworking area of your craft 
 store, such as JoAnn's or Michaels, or the like. They go inside the hole and 
 can be used to file it down. They even help on glass beads.  I find most of 
 my tiny beads at the knitting shop. they have really small ones that are used 
 in needlework.  Check out that type of store as well. Joyce
 
 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 
 mailto:f...@tribcsp.com wrote:
 
     A lot of the new hooks for flyfishing are micro-barb, so they don't
     pose much of a problem.
     I rarely squash a barb flat, unless the hook is brittle and the barb
     doesn't bend.
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Re: [VFB] Polar Bear

2010-01-08 Thread Anthony Spezio
My wife's aunt had a Polar Bear Throw cover when I first met my wife, don't 
know what happened to that either.
Tony


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On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:








Harmen:
 
You neglected to divulge where your buy of the 
day was found.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma


The Dollar Store??
Really curious what this set you back!  Got a bargain I hope.  Looking around 
the Web, it is possible to buy full PB skins for non-US importation, but they 
cost $7,000 - $8,000!  AeEEE-i!

I kick myself that my mother once had one of these skins inherited from a 
relative.  No more, though.
For those unfamiliar, it is illegal to have PB in the US imported after 1972.  
Fly tyers get the stuff from Canada, usually, but strictly hush-hush.

Yup, what a find, Harmen!

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Re: [VFB] Sowbug

2010-01-09 Thread Anthony Spezio
I am tying in the mornings and am staying at my house 1/2 mile from where you 
are staying.
Tony

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I have my tying times, all in the morning.  Who is coming down?  And where is 
everyone staying?

Peggy
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Re: [VFB] Sow Bug - JIMMY D

2010-01-09 Thread Anthony Spezio
Sorry to hear that, I thought you would make it this year.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Sow Bug - JIMMY D
To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 5:32 PM




  
I just notified Richard Thomas,
Sow Bug Chairman, that I won't be able to attend the 2010

Sow Bug.  I hadn't sent my invitation back anyway, so I'm sure it came as
no shock to him.

This is the third straight year that things have come up that prevent me
from attending.  I'm

really sorry, because I was looking forward to renewing old friendships and
the BS sessions

in the evenings.



Have fun, Take Care and Tie A Fly For me.



JIMMY D 


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Fishing  Hunting Club, Member, TOWA Past VP Guadalupe 
River Trout Unlimited, Member, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,
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Re: [VFB] Alexandra Variants

2010-01-14 Thread Anthony Spezio
Jeff Hines has ties a White River Version of the Alexandra, If I can find the 
fly, I will take a photo and post it. He will probably be tying it at the Sowbug
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Alexandra Variants
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Gang,
played around with feather, furs and google groups.

I got some ideas from recent group activities, we discussed tube
flies, had members posting their flies, deco-flies and I participated
in a streamer swap, where I contributed an Alexandra. Finally I did
put together a side in our group, where the different variants of an
Alexandra are shown. Here is the link:

http://groups.google.de/group/vfb-mail/web/alexandra-variants

I learned during my research on this topic, that the Alexandra was
originally tied with a red tag instead of a red tail.

Enjoy
Rene
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Re: [VFB] book comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40

2010-01-18 Thread Anthony Spezio
Don,
I accuse Dave of having stock in Zap A Gap. Got a couple of sample bottles from 
him at the Smallmouth show in Oklahoma last May. I have been told he will be at 
the Sowbug in March.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] book  comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:43 AM



 
 

Joyce, that info helps out a lot.
 
1.  I saw the photos of what 
he was doing and you seem right on.  Just extended furled 
fiber-tails with lots of different flies applied.
 
Once anyone gets the rope dub down pat, the 
furling is another open door to some cool applications, not just another tail 
on 
the fly.  I wish I could tell you all of the applications, but I'd be 
telling y'all what's on DVD #2.  ;o)
 
What I can say is that anything that will rope-dub 
will also furl (within useable limits), with thread core, mono core,  wire 
core, or bite tippet core.  Also, all of your dubbing materials, 
synthetics, furs, fibers, peacock, etc., become materials for 
furls.
 
One hint (which I've attached photos on)- 
chopped up dubbing, like that green lamb's wool, will rope and furl and 
make great fuzzy, soft, flexible caterpillars, as thick as you want 
them and very durable (and tapered if you want).  If you rope-dub on 
light wire, you can shape the 'pillar into a curl or bend that's not on 
the hook itself, and it will still be very flexible to the fish for feel, and 
still dense and 'fleshy'.
 
2.  Looks like DVD#2 will 
turn out almost like DVD#1- so many techniques, not enough space/time to do 
patterns and recipes.
I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that were in much 
longer format that the one I did.  I'm checking into it to make sure the 
quality is the same.
 
Do you guys think a 2, 3, 4 hour 
DVD#2 (for the same price) would be agood idea, sine it can be indexed like 
#1?  Then I could do all of the techhniques and show lots of rope-dub 
finishing techniques to graduate into the fly bodies.  Securing the 
rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for one guy at the show, so I showed him 
about 4 ways to secure the fly to a slick hook (shiny plated 
saltwater hooks are very slick).  Which brings up item 
#3:
 
3.  Dave Whitlock has a new 
DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies.  He gave me one, but I haven't had 
the chance to look at it yet.  He got with the Z-A-G company and made up 
little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers.  I have about 4 
of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to 
slip backwards on the new very slick hooks.  Don't have much problems with 
the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish.
 
4.  I've used Super-glue gel 
for my big deceiver flies to attach the eyes, but they seemed to have a smell 
long after the glue dried.  So I seal all the heads and eyes with 
vinyl cement, which makes them more durable and seals in the SG smell.  The 
vinyl cement has no detectable smell after two weeks.  
 
My lure-fishing experience tell me to give them a 
shot of WD-40 before fishing, to hide the human scents, but not to 
'flavor' the fly (illegal in many areas).  It works with Mackinaw trolling 
flies, so it should work with trout through marlin flies also.  Oil-related 
smells permeate the water- so fish are used to smelling them.  Problem is, 
some fly materials react to the oil, and then degrade.  Don't know which 
ones they are until it's too late.  Add that to materials reacting to the 
sun and salt, and many materials just don't hold up in the real world- 
especially holographic streamer fibers.
 
DonO
 
 
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Joyce 
  Westphal 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:25 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] book
  
I have it and it is OK, not spectacular and I would not buy it 
  again. You can get the same information on the internet free of charge. Of 
  course, he only talks about furled flies and after you learn the technique, 
  all the flies look the same, just different colors of furled thread tails. 
  Don't know if this helps. Joyce


  On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, The Smiths aflyt...@comcast.net 
  wrote:

  

Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back 
byKen Hanley titled Tying Furled Flies?
Gary S.
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Re: [VFB] book comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40

2010-01-18 Thread Anthony Spezio
Yes it is an LOL
I keep teasing Dave about it, have been for years. Sorry if it came through any 
other way. It was meant as a joke.
Dave is a good friend to all of us.
Tony

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From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] book  comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:23 AM



 
Tony,
Is that an 'LOL'?
If that is so, is it a 'conflict of 
interest' to be hawking/selling it as a stockholder?
How does it work?  If I bought stock in 
Whiting, Flex-O, Mc Flyfoam, etc., can I still hawk their 
products? 
 
DonO 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:54 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] book  comments, 
  DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
  

  


  Don,
I accuse Dave of having stock in Zap A Gap. Got a 
couple of sample bottles from him at the Smallmouth show in Oklahoma 
last May. I have been told he will be at the Sowbug in 
March.
Tony

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:


From: 
  Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: Re: 
  [VFB] book  comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:43 
  AM


  
  

  Joyce, that info helps out a 
  lot.
   
  1.  I saw the 
  photos of what he was doing and you seem right on.  
  Just extended furled fiber-tails with lots of different flies 
  applied.
   
  Once anyone gets the rope dub down 
  pat, the furling is another open door to some cool applications, not 
  just another tail on the fly.  I wish I could tell you all of the 
  applications, but I'd be telling y'all what's on DVD #2.  
  ;o)
   
  What I can say is that anything that will 
  rope-dub will also furl (within useable limits), with thread core, 
  mono core,  wire core, or bite tippet core.  Also, all of 
  your dubbing materials, synthetics, furs, fibers, peacock, etc., 
  become materials for furls.
   
  One hint (which I've attached photos on)- 
  chopped up dubbing, like that green lamb's wool, will rope 
  and furl and make great fuzzy, soft, flexible caterpillars, 
  as thick as you want them and very durable (and tapered if you 
  want).  If you rope-dub on light wire, you can 
  shape the 'pillar into a curl or bend that's not on the hook itself, 
  and it will still be very flexible to the fish for feel, and still 
  dense and 'fleshy'.
   
  2.  Looks like 
  DVD#2 will turn out almost like DVD#1- so many techniques, not enough 
  space/time to do patterns and recipes.
  I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that 
  were in much longer format that the one I did.  I'm checking into 
  it to make sure the quality is the same.
   
  Do you guys think a 2, 
  3, 4 hour DVD#2 (for the same price) would be agood idea, sine it can 
  be indexed like #1?  Then I could do all of the techhniques and 
  show lots of rope-dub finishing techniques to graduate into the fly 
  bodies.  Securing the rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for 
  one guy at the show, so I showed him about 4 ways to secure the 
  fly to a slick hook (shiny plated saltwater hooks are very 
  slick).  Which brings up item #3:
   
  3.  Dave Whitlock 
  has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies.  He gave me 
  one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet.  He got with 
  the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially 
  designed for fly-tiers.  I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm 
  thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards 
  on the new very slick hooks.  Don't have much problems with the 
  old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish.
   
  4.  I've used 
  Super-glue gel for my big deceiver flies to attach the eyes, but they 
  seemed to have a smell long after the glue dried.  So I seal 
  all the heads and eyes with vinyl cement, which makes them more 
  durable and seals in the SG smell.  The vinyl cement has no 
  detectable smell after two weeks.  
   
  My lure-fishing experience tell me to 
  give them a shot of WD-40 before fishing, to hide the human 
  scents, but not to 'flavor' the fly (illegal in many areas).  It 
  works with Mackinaw trolling flies, so it should work with trout 
  through marlin flies also.  Oil-related smells permeate the 
  water- so fish are used to smelling them

[VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-18 Thread Anthony Spezio
I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black Chinese Saddle I had 
was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad  de...@conranch.com and had him send 
me a saddle.
I got it the other day and I am real pleased with a natural Black saddle. 
Really nice long feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied with the 
feathers.
Arkansas Tony



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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Anthony Spezio
 That would be BRD would it not.
LOL
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:55 PM



 
 

How about making a few Black  
WRD??
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger 
than everyone else looks?
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

  - Original Message - 
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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 
  PM
  Subject: [VFB] Black Hackle
  

  


  I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black 
Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad  
de...@conranch.com 
and had him send me a saddle.
I got it the other day and I am real 
pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No 
financial interest, just satisfied with the feathers.
Arkansas 
Tony


  
  

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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Anthony Spezio
Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a true black or is my 
memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe I should forget the whole 
thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. LOL
Tony

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote:

From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM



 
 

Funny you are in need of the black 
hackle.
I just bought a bottle of black hair dye and am 
going to dye a white on black.
I want to use it for bass flies.
 
I have lots of grackles around here and I am half 
tempted to harvest a few with my BB gun.
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger 
than everyone else looks?
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

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  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 
  PM
  Subject: [VFB] Black Hackle
  

  


  I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black 
Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad  
de...@conranch.com 
and had him send me a saddle.
I got it the other day and I am real 
pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No 
financial interest, just satisfied with the feathers.
Arkansas 
Tony


  
  

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Re: [VFB] Black Hackle

2010-01-19 Thread Anthony Spezio
Actually Denny sent me two black saddles, one is a true black and the other is 
more of a Black Dunn with gold flecks in it in a number of the feathers. A 
bonus,both saddles have a load of soft hackle body feathers .
Tony

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From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:09 AM

When you look at Denny's natural black feathers, you will note that there are 
bits of green and red and even purples apparent as you look at them in the 
sunshine.  IN nature, colors are never true according to AK Best. I prefer 
natural black feathers, but, when I dye them myself, I use the hair dye but I 
also put a bit of green or red in the bath. You can start by first dying them a 
light green or you can mix the colors. Sometimes you want a bit of a purple 
black hue (such as starling feathers have naturally) and even overdying white 
feather that you've done purple and then black, while OK, for me don't produce 
the wonderful hue that starlings have. I'd be interested in the experience of 
others. Joyce

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The one person that would give us the right answer 
is Joyce.
 
Any ideas Joyce?
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger 
than everyone else looks?
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:42 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
  

  


  Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a 
true black or is my memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe 
I should forget the whole thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. 
LOL
Tony

--- On Mon, 1/18/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net 
wrote:


From: 
  Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM


  
  

  Funny you are in need of the black 
  hackle.
  I just bought a bottle of black hair dye 
  and am going to dye a white on black.
  I want to use it for bass 
  flies.
   
  I have lots of grackles around here and I 
  am half tempted to harvest a few with my BB gun.
   
  Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
   
  Why is it that at class reunions you feel 
  younger than everyone else looks?
   
  http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  
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Sent: 
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Subject: 
[VFB] Black Hackle



  
  
I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and 
  the Black Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted 
  Denny Conrad  de...@conranch.com and 
  had him send me a saddle.
I got it the other day and I am 
  real pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long 
  feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied with the 
  feathers.
Arkansas 
Tony





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Re: [VFB] Outdoor Retailers Expo, SLC

2010-01-23 Thread Anthony Spezio
Tom,
It was the Fly Fishing Retailers Show I got to meet you, Larry Johnson, Jerry, 
Don, Mike, Joyce, and a few others from the list. I really enjoyed the three 
years I attended.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Outdoor Retailers Expo, SLC
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:29 PM

Oops!  Wrong show!  This is the outdoor retailers Winter show, dealing with 
winter outdoor products.  No fishermen around.  Perhaps Tony can give me the 
correct name for the show he used to tie at.  It seemed to me that it was 
primarily fishing related.

Tom
On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Tom Davenport wrote:

 
 The Outdoor Retailers Expo has returned to Salt Lake City.  The last time it 
 was here, Tony was tying for Gudebrod, and I was able to visit him and crash 
 the show (which isn't open to the public).  Visiting Tony was the prime 
 objective, but it was also fun to hobnob with the luminaries of the sport who 
 usually come to this expo.  Also, I made a point of going in on Saturday when 
 the vendors would sell the stuff they brought dirt cheap (to avoid having to 
 pack it up and haul it home).  
 
 Tony, I suspect you aren't making it to this show, but are there any other 
 list members who are?  Anybody out here in SLC?  
 
 Tom Davenport
 
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[VFB] Something different , not quite off topic

2010-01-24 Thread Anthony Spezio
The list seems to be getting slower and slower. I am as guilty as anyone else 
by not posting. I have reasons I have not posted and it has nothing to do with 
the VFB list or anyone on it.
I think Jimmy did this a while back but things change and an update might be in 
order. I am sure we have a number of lurkers out there that we don't know about.
How about we jump in and tell about ourselves relating to tying and fishing. 
Also I often wonder what most of us do or what we did for a living. Might be 
interesting to know,.
Tony



  

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RE: [VFB] Something different , not quite off topic

2010-01-24 Thread Anthony Spezio
Bill had tied down here with us. I lost contact with him when I had a crash and 
lost all addresses. If you have contact with him, pass on my new E address.
Tony


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Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , not quite off topic
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 3:49 PM




 
 






For almost a living, I do IT consulting  recently started a
video production / post-production business. Primarily live events 
documentaries. Been a performing musician on  off for a long time.
Currently adding program underwriting for the local PBS station  hopefully
some programming related to music  the outdoors. 

As to fly tying  fishing, fished most of my life, but not
much fly fishing until about 7 years ago. Now I’m almost exclusively fly
fishing for all species. Took a tying class from a funny guy named Bill Sherer
about 5 or 6 years ago in Boulder Junction, WI. Great bar just down the street… 

   



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Subject: [VFB] Something different , not quite off topic 



   


 
  
  The list seems to be getting slower and slower. I am as
  guilty as anyone else by not posting. I have reasons I have not posted and it
  has nothing to do with the VFB list or anyone on it.

  I think Jimmy did this a while back but things change and an update might be
  in order. I am sure we have a number of lurkers out there that we don't know
  about.

  How about we jump in and tell about ourselves relating to tying and fishing.
  Also I often wonder what most of us do or what we did for a living. Might be
  interesting to know,.

  Tony 
  
 


   

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Re: [VFB] Shipping flies

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Scott,
I use the plastic medicine prescription containers. In the large ones I can 
hook the flies to one of my cards, roll it a bit and slide it in the container.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Shipping flies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 11:13 PM

I have never mailed flies out before and I am about to send out a few to a 
family member in Oklahoma who wants to make a shadow box of some of my flies. 
It occurred to me that I needed to protect them in transit and so I found an 
old cheap fly box that I can live without. If this gets to be a habit I don't 
want to buy cheap fly boxes. For those of you that mail out dry flies 
routinely, what do you use that is cheap and disposable to protect them in 
transit?


Thanks,

Scott Bearden



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Re: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Jim,
I guess I go along with you on this. Just trying to get some action on the 
list. I was hoping more would reply with more than a line or two. I will post 
my background later today.
Tony

--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote:

From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net
Subject: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 12:47 PM




  
  
Tony, I would say that your post below is definitely ON TOPIC. The better
we know each other, the better we can appreciate

 our fellow VFB'ers. So, here's some stuff about me:



Been fishing 60 + years, Fly fishing just about the same.  Started tying
flies at age 12, with a Herter Beginners Kit

Joined the VFB in its infancy.  

Been doing the daily quote on the VFB for about 9 years

Started the Joke For The Day about 8 years ago, because the VFB was getting
cluttered with jokes and Byard

asked me if I'd do it.  There's now around 70 VFB members who get the daily
JFTD.

Just finished meistering my 17 swap today. Some goofy, but all fun.  

March Madness I, March Madness II, Colors I, Colors II, Retiree, Ham Radio,
Chili Pepper, Eagle Scout, Blues I, 

Blues II, Courage, Renegade, Steelhead, Murf  Memorial, Old Fart and lastly
- Fly Tying Fanatic Swap.

I'm a retired Scout Executive with the Boy Scouts of America - 1964-2000

Wrote an outdoor humor book in 2004 - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing  Hunting
Club

Editor of  North Fishing Zone - Texas Fish  Game magazine, 2007 - 2009

Have written numerous fishing and hunting articles for outdoor magazines

I've done my fishing in Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, including the Gulf,
Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon

5 grown children, 8 grandchildren

Two Cats - Peaches  Gray.  Raised them from bottle - orphans.  I'm their
mother and father.  They act like dogs

and come when I whistle or call their name.  They jump up on me just like
my dogs did.  Gray can purr - I taught him,

but Peaches never has learned.

 I stay busy monitoring the VFB, FFW and doing the Daily Quotes and Jokes,
plus a bunch of  Honey Do work that

never seems to end.



JIMMY D



Anthony Spezio wrote:


  

  
The
list seems to be getting slower and slower. I am as guilty as anyone else
by not posting. I have reasons I have not posted and it has nothing to do
with the VFB list or anyone on it.

I think Jimmy did this a while back but things change and an update might
be in order. I am sure we have a number of lurkers out there that we don't
know about.

How about we jump in and tell about ourselves relating to tying and fishing.
Also I often wonder what most of us do or what we did for a living. Might
be interesting to know,.

Tony


  

  
  

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RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
You made it to Arkansas
Tony

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From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
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Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:46 AM




Im not sure Im even getting through.

 

Robert Scarbrough
 


From: rustyh...@centurytel.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:01:59 -0800





 
I grew up in MN and have always fished. Started out with a Zebco 202 reel and 
rod with a bobber and worm. Worked up to spinning and then was determined to 
learn flyfishing. After a steep learning curve, I started to get the hang of 
it. Took up flytying too. Learning on those small, brushy streams gave me a 
sidearm stroke that I still can't get rid of.  Microsoft moved me out to the 
Seattle area where I got exposed to big rivers, big fish and the sheer joy of 
throwing a speyrod across the entire river.
 
These days, I run a small fly company that features my flies and some of my 
friend's. I travel all over the world in search of all types of fish in all 
types of water -- but always with a flyrod. My girlfriend took up flyfishing, 
caught her first trout on a dry and uses nothing but a dryfly now. When home 
(in WA), I fish the steelhead streams around my house and the great trout 
fishing on the east side of the mountains.
 
I have one son who is in college and is turning 20. He is a heck of a 
flyfisher. 
 
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Re: [VFB] Not to be a Lurker

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Bob,
Nothing is boring when it comes to knowing people. Next time at Tanny, come 
down another hour and visit with me. I am in Arkansas on the White.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Not to be a Lurker
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I'm one you could call a lurker.  Always read but seldom comment.

 

Here goes:  I live in Iowa work for a security firm, worked in the IT field for 
about 30 years.

Have been fly fishing for around 12 years, have only fished Taneycomo or in NE 
Iowa for trout.  Pretty much panfish and bass around Des Moines where Im living 
at the moment.  Have a Mutt that loves to go fishing with me, no kids.  Was 
married almost 30 years before losing her to Cancer, just now getting back into 
flytying because of that.

 

Pretty boring and uneventful but that me.  :)
  
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RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio

Bob,
You just got a invitation. Contact me off list.
 If interested the Sowbug show is in Mtn. Home Arkansas on March 18, 19, 20. We 
will have over 100 tyers and a number of VFB members will be attending and 
tying. Rosanne and Terry Wilson the Bluegill experts and Fishy Fullman will be 
there as tyers too. The cost is 5.00 for the three days. I will be tying in the 
morning sessions.
Tony

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From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:59 AM




I have been trying not to be a Lurker but havent gotten any reply from anyone 
til now.

And I would like to literally make it to Arkansas and do some fishing!  :)

 

Bob
 


Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:50:45 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





You made it to Arkansas
Tony

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From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:46 AM




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Im not sure Im even getting through.
 
Robert Scarbrough
 


From: rustyh...@centurytel.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:01:59 -0800





 
I grew up in MN and have always fished. Started out with a Zebco 202 reel and 
rod with a bobber and worm. Worked up to spinning and then was determined to 
learn flyfishing. After a steep learning curve, I started to get the hang of 
it. Took up flytying too. Learning on those small, brushy streams gave me a 
sidearm stroke that I still can't get rid of.  Microsoft moved me out to the 
Seattle area where I got exposed to big rivers, big fish and the sheer joy of 
throwing a speyrod across the entire river.
 
These days, I run a small fly company that features my flies and some of my 
friend's. I travel all over the world in search of all types of fish in all 
types of water -- but always with a flyrod. My girlfriend took up flyfishing, 
caught her first trout on a dry and uses nothing but a dryfly now. When home 
(in WA), I fish the steelhead streams around my house and the great trout 
fishing on the east side of the mountains.
 
I have one son who is in college and is turning 20. He is a heck of a 
flyfisher. 
 
--
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www.amazingflies.com

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RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds, now lurkers

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Bob, 
Me again, We need the lurkers to post to let us know you are out there. If no 
one posts the list will die a slow death. I am on two other tying lists and 
there are only about one message about every three to four months. When someone 
posts something, the list awakens and there will be several posts for a few 
days then dies again. You lurkers out there, find somethoing to post and let us 
know you are there.
Thanks,
Tony

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From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 6:18 AM




I guess I can be classified as a Lurker, I like to read the posts but very 
rarely comment.

 

I have been flyfishing about 15 years now, wont say Im good but catch some fish 
anyway.  Fish mostly at Taneycomo for trout as in Iowa have to go up in the NE 
part to fish for trout .  I flyfish for bass and panfish where I live (Des 
Moines, IA).  Started tying a few years ago then quit when my wife died after 
30 years, and am just now getting back into tying.

 

Have served in the Military, worked in IT and am now in Security.   No kids, 
just one dog who loves to go fishing with me.  Pretty boring but thats me.  :)

 

Bob Scarbrough
 


Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:45:58 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Jim,
I guess I go along with you on this. Just trying to get some action on the 
list. I was hoping more would reply with more than a line or two. I will post 
my background later today.
Tony

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From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net
Subject: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 12:47 PM


Tony, I would say that your post below is definitely ON TOPIC. The better we 
know each other, the better we can appreciate
 our fellow VFB'ers. So, here's some stuff about me:

Been fishing 60 + years, Fly fishing just about the same.  Started tying flies 
at age 12, with a Herter Beginners Kit
Joined the VFB in its infancy.  
Been doing the daily quote on the VFB for about 9 years
Started the Joke For The Day about 8 years ago, because the VFB was getting 
cluttered with jokes and Byard
asked me if I'd do it.  There's now around 70 VFB members who get the daily 
JFTD.
Just finished meistering my 17 swap today. Some goofy, but all fun.  
March Madness I, March Madness II, Colors I, Colors II, Retiree, Ham Radio, 
Chili Pepper, Eagle Scout, Blues I, 
Blues II, Courage, Renegade, Steelhead, Murf  Memorial, Old Fart and lastly - 
Fly Tying Fanatic Swap.
I'm a retired Scout Executive with the Boy Scouts of America - 1964-2000
Wrote an outdoor humor book in 2004 - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing  Hunting Club
Editor of  North Fishing Zone - Texas Fish  Game magazine, 2007 - 2009
Have written numerous fishing and hunting articles for outdoor magazines
I've done my fishing in Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, including the Gulf, 
Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon
5 grown children, 8 grandchildren
Two Cats - Peaches  Gray.  Raised them from bottle - orphans.  I'm their 
mother and father.  They act like dogs
and come when I whistle or call their name.  They jump up on me just like my 
dogs did.  Gray can purr - I taught him,
but Peaches never has learned.
 I stay busy monitoring the VFB, FFW and doing the Daily Quotes and Jokes, plus 
a bunch of  Honey Do work that
never seems to end.

JIMMY D

Anthony Spezio wrote:





The list seems to be getting slower and slower. I am as guilty as anyone else 
by not posting. I have reasons I have not posted and it has nothing to do with 
the VFB list or anyone on it.
I think Jimmy did this a while back but things change and an update might be in 
order. I am sure we have a number of lurkers out there that we don't know about.
How about we jump in and tell about ourselves relating to tying and fishing. 
Also I often wonder what most of us do or what we did for a living. Might be 
interesting to know,.
Tony

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[VFB] My Background, Long

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
In 1944 my first year in High School, in N.J., one of my classmate was a fly 
fisherman, we were 14 at that time. He showed me how to tie flies. Back then, 
there was no waxed thread, bobbins and a lot of the materials we have today. We 
picked up a lot of road kills.
Some day I will post the story about the Skunk road kill. We moved to another 
location in town and the neighbor was also a fly fisherman and tied flies. He 
gave me two books, one was by Paul Young, I still have that book but the other 
was lost over the years. At that time the rods were bamboo, lines and tying 
thread was silk and leaders were gut. I made my first tying vise from a length 
of solid rod, cut the slit with a hack saw and used a bolt and wing nut to 
close the jaws. I bought my first fly rod for 25 cents. It was bamboo and in 
bad shape so I thought myself
 to wrap a rod. From that I got several requests to wrap some other rods. I was 
charging 5.00 to do them.
Airplanes was always my big interest and when I was 16 I started taking flying 
lessons and the fly tying kind of slacked off , just tied on and off. I had my 
pilots license before I could legally drive. Went into the Air Force at age 18. 
. I built a folding wing airplane of my design in 1960. See tuholer.com  
Aviation was my life till 1988, heart problems ended my career with airplanes.
In recovering I met a fly fisherman at the local pond and he was a fly tyer. 
That got me back into tying. I started tying at small local shows then got a 
break and was invited to tie at one of the bigger shows. From there more 
invitations came and I started tying in the show circut.  My flies started 
showing up in magazines then in a number of books.
I also had the opportunity to meet and become friends with a good number of top 
names in the fly fishing world. I was also invited to join the Pro staff of 
Gudebrod, Dyna King,
 Mag Eyes, Conranch Hackles, and Nymph Head Fly Tying beads. Was a featured 
tyer at many of the shows.
In 1993, on our way to Oklahoma, we stopped in Arkansas to attend a FFF 
Conclave. while there we bought a place on the White River. Moved here six 
months later and I fished almost every day for the first three years. I got 
involved with the local Fly Fishing Club and became very active. In 1996 I got 
the club to agree to get a show started. That is the Sowbug Roundup, one of the 
best tying shows in the country. I held tying classes for the club and had a 
class of my own at my house once a year. I started to get invitations to tie at 
the local area shows and the FFF Conclaves. I could travel then and did a lot 
of shows in a number of other states. I also was going back to tie at the east 
coast shows till other health problems limited that.During this time I started 
tying for a few shops and resorts along for several clients. With all of this, 
I was also building Graphite fly rods. We have a local rod shop that I also 
wrapped some rods for them. In 1998, I
 got into making bamboo rods from scratch. That really cut into my
 tying time and the tying slacked off quite a bit. I am still tying and making 
rods but at a slower scale. I have some health poblems that are slowing me down 
quite a bit. I still teach making bamboo rods.
All the above does not make me better than anyone else, I am  just thankful 
that I was able to accomplish this when I was able to do so.
Other hobbies are Photography, building strip Canoes, Wood Carving and a number 
of other things over the years.
Yes, Dot my wife of 59 years puts up with all of this.
I could go on but this is becoming a book
Tony




  

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Re: [VFB] Re: VFB Then Now -Suggestion

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Paul,
Like you, I just don't think a forum will be a good thing. I for one just can't 
handle it. That is why I am not on any forum lists. By the way, I did not 
mention I got to meet you at one of the shows when I listed some of the VFB 
members I have met at shows.
Tony

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From: Paul pm...@tallships.ca
Subject: [VFB] Re: VFB Then  Now -Suggestion
To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:10 PM

I too am a founding member. Unlike many I go way back to the
Newsgroups days, what a chaotic mess that was!! VFB traffic is
reasonable. Other formats generally require one to go to a URL, when
the Streamer list went that way I went away. The Google digest is
friendly, one click and I'm able to respond. Like many originals (such
as Hans W), I tend to respond only to those threads of particular
interest. Also, with possibly 10,000 flies, swaps have mostly lost
their raison d'etre. While still a member of FF@, I haven't posted in
years. The volume of posts is too much for individual setting, and
I've never been keen on their digest. I'm also a member of Jimmy's
Flyfishingworld list, and while quiet, occasionally has a good thread.
To me VFB is healthy. While unable to run the monster caddis swap, it
seems to me that most of the announced swaps find a reasonable number
of participants. Unfortunately the world has changed for the worst;
many of us remember when flying might actually be enjoyable!!! Cross-
border mail has become both expensive and a total hassle---it would
never occur to me to send flies to the US. The last time I tried to
send flies to a US magazine they were locked in a customs warehouse in
Atlanta and the magazine was told to cough up several hundred dollars
(they declined!!).

cheers
Paul Marriner
www.galesendpress.com

On Jan 26, 4:40 pm, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote:
 David:

 This is a quote taken directly from my Jan 2010 newsletter sent to my fellow
 club members

 Neville (Nev) Gosling
 Greater Vancouver,
 B.C. Canada

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Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Is that the one caught on the Chili Pepper. I have to see that.
Tony

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From: David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:01 PM

OMG Nick, you are LEGEND!!!
 
Where do I post Emmas 1st Rainbow pic???


2010/1/26 Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com




I'm as good maintaining my inbox as I am maintaining my tying bench. 
This was what I found in a mid-August mail from 2004. (Not by Don though...)

--
So welcome to the world, Emma Elizabeth Colyn,
I'm sure it won't be long,

Before a fly-rod you'll be holdin'.
Your dad will be posting many times,
as your virtues he'll be extolin'.
Buggs
--
/Nick


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Sorry Don, it was 5 1/2 years ago and some months of gestation.
You composed the most beautifull ode to an expected daughter.
 
And its been lost in my maelstrom of electronic records. (I know I have a 
hardcopy in the archives)
But, more to my point, we do things out of kindness, and forget them, but they 
are remembered forever.
 
So I measure the worth of my friends.
 
Thanks again Don.


2010/1/26 David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com

Hold on, I'll go find it


2010/1/26 Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 






David,
I don't remember the 'Ode to Emma'.  Please refresh these tired, abused brain 
cells.
 
DonO
 


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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today





Hello you All
 
Wouldn't it be Jimmy (Mud Hole Lunkers) or some such to dredge me out of the 
reeds?
I'm not gonna tell anyone about lurking, skulking, poaching or the like, but 
I've got my fair share of the value of you old bunch of smelly waders.
 
Jimmy, who has defended me against the worst of them.
Don, telling me about dental floss and them big ass flies.
Tony, and all his words of wisdom (still haven't built it.) your chili 
Pepper caught my youngest, Emma a real corker, it did!
Don (again) your ode to Emma will never release me. Do YOU remember that one?
Nick, how far you have come, my friend, a true doien to the cult, what issit, 
three now?? Ankle biters, I mean hahahaaha, to Theresa my regards.
Kieth, never made that second trip to Germany, but you knew or expected that, 
didn't you?
Ruven.. you still here, not seen you in a bit.
Pete Gramp ??? I feel you buddy. 
 
Apologies to anyone I may not have mentioned, tis not intentional, I 
swear. Remind me and you are in my heart still. Oh, I'll mention you too. tee 
hee.
 
I am happy to still be a member, although not a dues dunner (who was that?) 
so nail me to the wall Byard always treated me well. and still get your 
chat every day. Damn, its good to be reminded of happier days. When a trip to 
Lesotho was the highlight of the year!  No Jimmy not for Bucket mouths!

 
I lament at the state of the VFB, and no thanks to me for not contributing, my 
head hangs in shame. Excuses are the apologies for those not worthy of mention. 
 
HOWEVER
 
I salute you, the stalwarts of the fraternity. YOU have kept the course, the 
passion and the faith. I, for one, am eternally grateful for the freethinking 
inspiration you have so graciously poured over us. 
 
Thank you, my distant friends
 
Your ever-grateful student
 
David Munro Colyn
 
Pretoria
Gauteng
South Africa
 
P.S. Find me at 
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profileid=645517785  If you do it at 
all??
 
U, when did I sign up here?


2010/1/26 Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net

Thanks DonO:  We have indeed lost members.  I just checked and as of today, we 
have 200 members, a far cry from our high water mark of 600 +.

Right now we're averaging 775 posts per month, which comes in at 29 VFB posts 
per day.  775 sounded like a lot, but the 29 ain't much.  With 200 members, we 
should have lots more activity and we can if our members will remember what the 
VFB was designed for - learning from each other and passing on tips on fly 
fishing / tying.  Maybe some of us, not me and DonO, are too bashful to pose a 
question or pose a comment. However, we all need to remember that THERE'S NO 
DUMB QUESTION WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.  So, lets get cracking and ask 
those questions and pass along our fly fishing and fly tying tips.  I do the 
Daily Quote and that generates a few comments, but maybe I should pull in a few 
instructional quotes too.  Don't worry about someone on the list jumping you 
for a comment you've made.  If they 

Re: [VFB] VFB Then Now -Suggestion

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Nev,
Some change is good but some is bad. The river I moved to 16 years ago has 
changed and the people fishing it have also changed but not for the good. Now 
from my first tying days, it really has changed and most of it for the good.
I can't agree on a forum.
Tony

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote:

From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
Subject: [VFB] VFB Then  Now -Suggestion
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:40 PM



 
David:
 
This is a quote taken directly from my Jan 2010 newsletter sent to my 
fellow club members
 
I returned from the

 United Kingdom just three days ago after my 
longest ever stay in the UK 
since coming to
 Canada in 1972.  Every time that I go back, I find things 
just that little bit different.  It 
is no longer the same country that I left all those years ago, but then again, 
neither is the
 Canada that I returned to the same as 
the one I came to in 1972.
 Canada has become more urbanized over 
the years.  While in the 
 UK , I read a book by W.D. 
Wetherell entitled “North of Now” that discusses country life in
 New Hampshire and
 Vermont , and the fact that country life is 
changing and in many cases disappearing. The quotation  “Change is inevitable. 
Change is 
Constant” is attributed to Benjamin Disraeli and is so true.  I believe that in 
order to continue as a 
strong and respected club, the Totem Flyfishers must also change, but change is 
stressful and tends to invoke resistance.  Traditions are important and 
comfortable, 
so how does one balance retaining important traditions with change? Another 
quote, this time by Niccolo Machiavelli states; “Whosoever 
desires constant success must change his conduct with the times.”  I believe 
that we must adapt with the 
times in order to attract new and younger members.  In my opinion, the present 
average age 
of members is too great and we must bring in new and if possible younger 
persons 
in order to have a group of younger like-minded members to pass the club on 
to.  I am pleased to say that I 
believe that we are just beginning to make a little progress in this area and I 
ask each of you to diligently look out for potential new members as we go 
forward into 2010. 
 
 
So, in answer to your question, I 
think that the VFB must change in order to attract more members. Although I 
prefer the e-mail list, I suggest that we TRY the forum approach. Just take a 
look at this http://speypages.com/speyclave/ and 
look at the number of posts and threads.  http://www.flybc.ca is 
similar.
 
That's my 2 cents worth. 
Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 

 


  
  
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To: 
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  Now


  
  Well said Nev.
   
  Have any solution to the well defined problem??
   
  I sure dont.
  
 

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Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Done.
Tony

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From: David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:12 PM

Tony, send me your pvt email addy to davidco...@gmail.com, I'll send you an 
original pic
 
D


2010/1/27 Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com





Is that the one caught on the Chili Pepper. I have to see that.
Tony

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From: David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com 

Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:01 PM 






OMG Nick, you are LEGEND!!!
 
Where do I post Emmas 1st Rainbow pic???


2010/1/26 Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com




I'm as good maintaining my inbox as I am maintaining my tying bench. 
This was what I found in a mid-August mail from 2004. (Not by Don though...)

--
So welcome to the world, Emma Elizabeth Colyn,
I'm sure it won't be long,

Before a fly-rod you'll be holdin'.
Your dad will be posting many times,
as your virtues he'll be extolin'.
Buggs
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/Nick


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Ämne: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today






Sorry Don, it was 5 1/2 years ago and some months of gestation.
You composed the most beautifull ode to an expected daughter.
 
And its been lost in my maelstrom of electronic records. (I know I have a 
hardcopy in the archives)
But, more to my point, we do things out of kindness, and forget them, but they 
are remembered forever.
 
So I measure the worth of my friends.
 
Thanks again Don.


2010/1/26 David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com

Hold on, I'll go find it


2010/1/26 Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com 






David,
I don't remember the 'Ode to Emma'.  Please refresh these tired, abused brain 
cells.
 
DonO
 


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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today





Hello you All
 
Wouldn't it be Jimmy (Mud Hole Lunkers) or some such to dredge me out of the 
reeds?
I'm not gonna tell anyone about lurking, skulking, poaching or the like, but 
I've got my fair share of the value of you old bunch of smelly waders.
 
Jimmy, who has defended me against the worst of them.
Don, telling me about dental floss and them big ass flies.
Tony, and all his words of wisdom (still haven't built it.) your chili 
Pepper caught my youngest, Emma a real corker, it did!
Don (again) your ode to Emma will never release me. Do YOU remember that one?
Nick, how far you have come, my friend, a true doien to the cult, what issit, 
three now?? Ankle biters, I mean hahahaaha, to Theresa my regards.
Kieth, never made that second trip to Germany, but you knew or expected that, 
didn't you?
Ruven.. you still here, not seen you in a bit.
Pete Gramp ??? I feel you buddy. 
 
Apologies to anyone I may not have mentioned, tis not intentional, I 
swear. Remind me and you are in my heart still. Oh, I'll mention you too. tee 
hee.
 
I am happy to still be a member, although not a dues dunner (who was that?) 
so nail me to the wall Byard always treated me well. and still get your 
chat every day. Damn, its good to be reminded of happier days. When a trip to 
Lesotho was the highlight of the year!  No Jimmy not for Bucket mouths!

 
I lament at the state of the VFB, and no thanks to me for not contributing, my 
head hangs in shame. Excuses are the apologies for those not worthy of mention. 
 
HOWEVER
 
I salute you, the stalwarts of the fraternity. YOU have kept the course, the 
passion and the faith. I, for one, am eternally grateful for the freethinking 
inspiration you have so graciously poured over us. 
 
Thank you, my distant friends
 
Your ever-grateful student
 
David Munro Colyn
 
Pretoria
Gauteng
South Africa
 
P.S. Find me at 
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profileid=645517785  If you do it at 
all??

 
U, when did I sign up here?


2010/1/26 Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net

Thanks DonO:  We have indeed lost members.  I just checked and as of today, we 
have 200 members, a far cry from our high water mark of 600 +.

Right now we're averaging 775 posts per month, which comes in at 29 VFB posts 
per day.  775 sounded like a lot, but the 29 ain't much.  With 200 members, we 
should have lots more activity and we can if our members will remember what the 
VFB was designed for - learning from each other and passing on tips on fly 
fishing / tying.  Maybe some of us, not me and DonO, are too bashful to pose a 
question or pose a comment

Re: [VFB] Crocheted Fly

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Looks like ai have one wrong fly with the photos.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Crocheted Fly
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:43 PM

I do it with a Mini Latch hook called a Knit Picker , much easier than using a 
Crochet hook Here are some shots of my Knitpikin Mayfly. I also do Scuds and 
Sowbugs like that using two different colored threads..
It is the same as the overhand weave.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Crocheted Fly
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:19 PM




Does anyone know anything about Crocheted flies?  I read a old article about 
one but it was very short and only showed 1 BW picture, very grainy.  Its not 
actually done with a hook and thread, I hope.

 

If this is a repeat sorry, having problems with mail and not knowimg if these 
are getting through at all.

 

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Re: [VFB] Then Now -Suggestion response

2010-01-26 Thread Anthony Spezio
Nev,
I may not like it but if that happens, I will stay with all my friends. I tried 
a forum and am signed up to two of them. I just don't participate because I 
just don't know how to navigate them. For you young guys with computer 
knowledge , it may be fine. For this old toot that had his learning with pencil 
and paper, it is hard to learn new ways I guess. I will check some of the ones 
you have listed below and see if I can navigate them.
Wish you were making the Sowbug, maybe some day.
Tony

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From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
Subject: [VFB] Then  Now -Suggestion response
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 6:21 PM



 
Hi Tony:
 
This was David Colyn's response to my original Then  
Now
 

Well said Nev.
 
Have any solution to the well defined problem??
 
I sure dont.

.and so I anwered him by saying what I believe and that is 
that forums (or bulletin boards if you like the word better) seem to have 
greater following than e-mail lists. I suggested TRYING forum 
style.
 
I 
expected resistance, because people resist change because it is not 
comfortable.  I doubt that many VFB members have really looked at 
the forum pages that I listed previously.
 
If you go to this forum http://forum.flybc.ca/ you will come to a 
page of subjects or topics -
 
In this case, fly tying is fourth from the top. If one clicks on that, your 
come to a page with a huge variety of more specific topics and just choose what 
takes your interest.
 
http://forum.flybc.ca/index.php?showforum=13
 
another good example can be found 
below
 
http://speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=38433
 
now 
scroll down just a little and you will com to a black screen entitled SPTV 
(Spey 
Pages TV)
 
click 
on the arrow in the middle of the screen, turn on your speakers and watch a 
superb video on wader safety from Simms.
 
The 
point I am trying (not very successfully) to make is that these modern forums 
are what today's younger anglers look for because  the are far more 
versatile than an e-mail list and can show videos and photos with no 
problem.
 
Tony, you and I are 
friends athough we have never met in person. I have a great deal of respect for 
you  and for some of the other long time members. However, to quote your 
words..
 
Like you, I just don't think a forum will 
be a good thing. I for one just can't handle it.
 
I 
believe that you could handle a forum if you wanted to, but the key is wanting 
to.  I like the e-mail list format but it is outdated and not as versatile 
as other methods. The forum is not as intimate as an e-mail list. Perhaps 
Google 
Wave  or something like it will eventually replace 
e-mail.
 
Just 
my 2 cent worth.
Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 

 
 

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Re: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions

2010-01-27 Thread Anthony Spezio
Chuck, 
There are no dumb questions when you don't know the answer.
You have coma a long way in tying.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions
To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:44 PM



 
 

One thing I learned about asking a zillion 
questions when I first joined here. If you are a lurker . or not a lurker, and 
you ask a question. ANY question. no matter how simple it may seem. You can bet 
your last dollar that there is somebody else out there who wanted to ask that 
very same question, but were too shy, thought it was a dumb question etc.. I 
used to get off list emails from ppl all the time telling me I'm glad you 
asked 
the question you did, cause I have been wanting to ask that myself. 
Chuck

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Re: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions

2010-01-27 Thread Anthony Spezio
That it is,
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 4:25 PM



 
 



That's like, when I'm trying to tie a complicated 
pattern, and mine comes out looking only halfway what the thing is supposed to 
look like I tell ppl Oh, that's a VARIATION of that fly LOL, 
Chuck
 
 

  - Original Message - 
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  PM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON 
  lurkers) and asking questions
  

  
  I 
  get depressed when I tie  panic when the deadline is two days 
  awayJ 
     
  
  
  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
  Alexander
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:49 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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  questions 
     
  
  Tony: Thanks. I 
  feel like I have come a long way. I had some great teachers like yourself who 
  were there to help me when I didn't know the answers. I know one thing.Tying 
  has changed my life. I have depression and panic attacks and I can sit down 
  and tie flies when I have a flair up, and it calms me down, 
  Chuck 
  
    
  

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From: Anthony 
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To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
 

Sent: Wednesday, 
January 27, 2010 6:37 AM 

Subject: Re: [VFB] 
Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions 

   

  
  

  Chuck, 
There are no dumb questions when you 
  don't know the answer.
You have coma a long way in 
  tying.
Tony

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Chuck Alexander 
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  wrote: 
  
From: Chuck 
  Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net
Subject: 
  [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions
To: Virtual 
  Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:44 PM 
  
  
  One thing I 
  learned about asking a zillion questions when I first joined here. If 
  you are a lurker . or not a lurker, and you ask a question. ANY 
  question. no matter how simple it may seem. You can bet your last 
  dollar that there is somebody else out there who wanted to ask that 
  very same question, but were too shy, thought it was a dumb question 
  etc.. I used to get off list emails from ppl all the time telling me 
  I'm glad you asked the question you did, cause I have been 
  wanting to ask that myself. Chuck 
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background

2010-01-28 Thread Anthony Spezio
Saving hanger rent was the best deal, I kept the plane at home in my garage. 
Yes, I did get a lot of looks especially when I towed it from Oklahoma to N.J. 
when I moved. I had it on a trailer I built especially for the plane..
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:33 PM

Tony: That's awesome how you put the flip up wings on the Tuholer, so you can 
hook it up and ride on down the road. I bet you got a lot of stares going down 
the road huh??? Chuck


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Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background


 Tony's too modest to say much about himself, so I'll do it for him.
 To see and read a bunch on Tony, click on the link below.  He's
 one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. He's also a world class
 fly tyer and bamboo rod builder.
 
 JIMMY  D
 
 
 
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background

2010-01-28 Thread Anthony Spezio
Will reply off list. Thought the other reply was off list. Sorry about that.
Tony

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Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 10:33 AM



 
 

Looked like it had quite a bit of tongue weight 
on that station wagon. That was a good idea on saving the hangar space.. Did 
you 
have any formal education in air craft or air foil physics, engineering or 
something like that?? or just built it from experience?? What was that first 
flight like??? I bet that maiden flight would be kinda scary if you felt any 
vibration, heard any weird noises etc. Did you wear a chute when you were 
testing it??? Oh, and did you ever use it to fly to any remote fly fishing 
places?? I see the Fly Fishing shows on TV, and they fly into places that you'd 
never get to any other way and catch trophy fish. Chuck
 

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  AM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little 
  background
  

  


  Saving hanger rent was the best deal, I kept the plane at 
home in my garage. Yes, I did get a lot of looks especially when I 
towed 
it from Oklahoma to N.J. when I moved. I had it on a trailer I built 
especially for the plane..
Tony

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Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background
To: 
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Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:33 
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  Tony: That's awesome how you put the flip up 
  wings on the Tuholer, so you can hook it up and ride on down the 
road. 
  I bet you got a lot of stares going down the road huh??? 
  Chuck


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Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A 
  little background


 Tony's too modest to say much about 
  himself, so I'll do it for him.
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  Tony, click on the link below.  He's
 one of the nicest 
  people you'll ever meet. He's also a world class
 fly tyer and 
  bamboo rod builder.
 
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Re: [VFB]Crocheted flies

2010-01-28 Thread Anthony Spezio
Don,
 What I do is basically the overhand weave. Doing it with a Knitpicker is 
easier when using thread. Trying to weave the thread by hand is hard to handle. 
It was originally done with a Crochet hook but I tried the Knitpicker and found 
it a lot better. I also do scuds, Sowbugs and other bodies using two thread 
colors.
Tony

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From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: Re: [VFB]Crocheted flies
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 4:23 PM



 
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There's been a few comments recently on this. I know Tony 
has a version and Nick does some.
Torril Kolbu is famous for them, and you can find her on 
the internet.
Extended bodies are one aspect of crocheted flies, as is 
Tony's.
 
Weaves can present almost the same effects as crocheting, 
and are quicker to tie.
Look up:
czech weave, 
overhand weave, 
square-knot weave, 
belly-weave.
 
A couple of Torill's flies:
 


 

 

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Re: [VFB] I'll take the VFB list over any Forum

2010-01-29 Thread Anthony Spezio
Hay Dan.
That brought you out of the woodwork. We need more members to do the same.
Tony

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Alright guys and gals, you got me out of lurk node.

I will finally come out of lurk mode and add to this discussion. I too agree 
with most of the replies here. I am members of both forums and lists like 
these, and both have their pluses and minuses. For me. I like the ease and 
informality of lists like this over the forum set-up. Just so much more 
personal and easy to use to me.

Even though I don't post much here, and don't participate in many of the fly 
swaps, I read most of the messages posted. Well, maybe not most of them, but 
some of them...well, OK you got me, maybe a few messages get past the reading 
of the subject line, LOL. In all seriousness, I have learned a lot from this 
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Not only do I learn about fly tying and fishing, which is great, I also gain 
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be a member here. Thanks guys, I feel as though I have friends from around the 
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and even from Kansas!

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If I were to ask the same question on a forum, and if I forget to 'subscribe' 
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forum, I may never see any replies. 

At any rate, thanks for this thread. It has brought some life to VFB. And now, 
since I am working 32 hours a day, I shall, out of necessity, return to the 
realm of lurkdom until I can take my next breath of air ( I am not allowed to 
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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Anthony Spezio
Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
Tony

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Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM



 
 

Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace 
hackle.   I was confused with the term Greenwell.  I am going to 
tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials    
Dail

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  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 
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  Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Dail:
   
  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown 
  with a dark centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 
  
  
  
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  [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail 
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Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
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Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  

pacres-  yes tied by 
McPhail.    What is greenwells feather?   I can not 
find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   
Dail

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  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 
  11:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells 
  Glory
  

  Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
   
  Materials are listed at the begining. 
   
  

 
  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:

  

Help   I saw a U Tube 
video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory.  The 
recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this 
fly?   I know someone on this list has the answer.  
Thanks,   Dail Graham

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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Anthony Spezio
I have not tied any in a long time, I just got the bug to do it again. The only 
problem is when I start tying someone comes by and wants a Chili Pepper of a 
Froggie. and ther goes all my plans.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:

From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:03 PM



 
Yea Tony-  I have noticed that a lot of tiers 
do soft hackles but not many do the old time wets.  I thought maybe a few 
old wets  might be interesting.  See you soon.   
Dail

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  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  


  Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet 
flies.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:


From: 
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Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM


  
  

  Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have 
  some furnace hackle.   I was confused with the term 
  Greenwell.  I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to 
  have the right materials    Dail
  
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To: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: 
Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM
Subject: 
RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


Dail:
 
It is a furnace hackle. Normally 
they are light to mid brown with a dark centre section. 
Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. 
Canada 


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Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: 
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory



  
  pacres-  yes tied by 
  McPhail.    What is greenwells feather?   
  I can not find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for 
  answering.   Dail
  
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Sent: 
Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM
Subject: 
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
 
Materials are listed at the begining. 
 


 
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Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:


  
  Help   I saw a U 
  Tube video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's 
  Glory.  The recipe was not clear.   What 
  feathers are used on this fly?   I know someone on 
  this list has the answer.  Thanks,   Dail 
  Graham

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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Anthony Spezio
Joyce,
The wings can be down, up, outward or inward. It depends on the pattern. In any 
case they are tied in the same way. The biggest mistake most make on tying in 
the wings is that they use the wrong part of the feather. If you hold the quill 
up to a light, you will see a distinct line out from the stem. Some call it the 
Blood line. If the barbs are cut off with the blood line on them when tying 
them in at this point,, the barbs will split. Cut the section behind the blood 
line to use as wings. If you leave these on, tie in the wings behind this line, 
it is actually the softer part of the barbs. In most cases, use a marched set 
of quills, right and left. Cut an equal number of barbs from each side, count 
the barbs and use a dubbing needle to separate them. Match them up either up, 
down, in or out. Place them in position and bring the thread up through your 
holding fingers and drop the bobbin. This will put a light crease in the barbs. 
Sometime taking a finger
 nail and pressing it where the thread is, forming a deeper crease will help, 
Now pull straight down on the thread and bring it around back in the crease 
while squeezing the wing as tight as you can with your two fingers. Make a 
second wrap and the wings should be set. If you notice any rolling off to one 
side, make the adjustment before the second thread wrap. Another way to make 
the wing from a large feather ts to cut a wide section of barbs from one side. 
Then fold them so that they match. In or out, up or down, tie them in as 
above.. I hope this helps
If not, let me know.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:57 PM

OK, since you've mentioned wets, I'd be interested in any tips or tricks for 
tying in wet fly wings. Mine always look a mashed mess. Do you point the ends 
up or down? I await your reply. I'm thinking I might just have to try a few. 
Joyce


On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
Tony  

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:


From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM



 
 

Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace 
hackle.   I was confused with the term Greenwell.  I am going to 
tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials    
Dail

  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Neville 
  Gosling 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Dail:
   
  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown 
  with a dark centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 
  
  
  
  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail 
  Graham
Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  

pacres-  yes tied by 
McPhail.    What is greenwells feather?   I can not 
find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   
Dail

  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Pacres 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 
  11:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells 
  Glory
  

  Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
   
  Materials are listed at the begining. 
   
  

 
  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:

  

Help   I saw a U Tube 
video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory.  The 
recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this 
fly?   I know someone on this list has the answer.  
Thanks,   Dail Graham

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Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-01-31 Thread Anthony Spezio
Famous, No way, just an ordinary guy who ties flies people like. They catch 
fish too. LOL
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:

From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:56 PM



 
Tony -Best laid plans often go astray when your 
famous.  Dail

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  


  I have not tied any in a long time, I just got the bug to 
do it again. The only problem is when I start tying someone comes by 
and 
wants a Chili Pepper of a Froggie. and ther goes all my 
plans.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:


From: 
  Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:03 PM


  
  Yea Tony-  I have noticed that a lot 
  of tiers do soft hackles but not many do the old time wets.  I 
  thought maybe a few old wets  might be interesting.  See you 
  soon.   Dail
  
- 
Original Message - 
From: 
Anthony Spezio 
To: 
vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

Sent: 
Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: 
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory



  
  
Looks like there will be three of us tying the 
  old wet flies.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail 
  Graham d...@positech.net 
  wrote:

  
From: 
Dail Graham d...@positech.net
Subject: 
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM





Nevulle-  Thank you.  
I have some furnace hackle.   I was confused with 
the term Greenwell.  I am going to tie some wets at 
Sowbug and wanted to have the right 
materials    Dail

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Neville 
  Gosling 
  To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: 
  Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM
  Subject: 
  RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Dail:
   
  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light 
  to mid brown with a dark centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater 
  Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 
  
  
  From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
  Dail Graham
Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 
  PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  

pacres-  yes tied by 
McPhail.    What is greenwells 
feather?   I can not find any listing my 
catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   
Dail

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Pacres 
  
  To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: 
  Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM
  Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Was this the video? 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
   
  Materials are listed at the begining. 
   
  

 
  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 
  AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
  wrote:

  

Help   I 
saw a U Tube video  on tying  a wet fly 
called Greenwell's Glory.  The recipe was not 
clear.   What feathers are used

Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

2010-02-01 Thread Anthony Spezio
Joyce,
Yes, that is a good start. the lenght is normally to about 1/2 of the tail from 
behind the hook eye.
Tony

--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 5:27 AM

Thanks..I shall try this. Do you use the gap of the hook as a measure for wing 
width? Joyce

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

Joyce,
The wings can be down, up, outward or inward. It depends on the pattern. In any 
case they are tied in the same way. The biggest mistake most make on tying in 
the wings is that they use the wrong part of the feather. If you hold the quill 
up to a light, you will see a distinct line out from the stem. Some call it the 
Blood line. If the barbs are cut off with the blood line on them when tying 
them in at this point,, the barbs will split. Cut the section behind the blood 
line to use as wings. If you leave these on, tie in the wings behind this line, 
it is actually the softer part of the barbs. In most cases, use a marched set 
of quills, right and left. Cut an equal number of barbs from each side, count 
the barbs and use a dubbing needle to separate them. Match them up either up, 
down, in or out. Place them in position and bring the thread up through your
 holding fingers and drop the bobbin. This will put a light crease in the 
barbs. Sometime taking a finger nail and pressing it where the thread is, 
forming a deeper crease will help, Now pull straight down on the thread and 
bring it around back in the crease while squeezing the wing as tight as you can 
with your two fingers. Make a second wrap and the wings should be set. If you 
notice any rolling off to one side, make the adjustment before the second 
thread wrap. Another way to make the wing from a large feather ts to cut a wide 
section of barbs from one side. Then fold them so that they match. In or out, 
up or down, tie them in as above.. I hope this helps

If not, let me know.
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Joyce Westphal
 westpha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:57 PM

OK, since you've mentioned wets, I'd be interested in any tips or tricks for 
tying in wet fly wings. Mine always look a mashed mess. Do you point the ends 
up or down? I await your reply. I'm thinking I might just have to try a few. 
Joyce



On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:



Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies.
Tony  

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote:



From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net

Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM



 
 

Nevulle-  Thank you.  I have some furnace 
hackle.   I was confused with the term Greenwell.  I am going to 
tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials    
Dail

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  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 
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  Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
  

  Dail:
   
  It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown 
  with a dark centre section. 
  Neville (Nev) Gosling
Greater Vancouver,
B.C. Canada 
  
  
  
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  Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory


  

pacres-  yes tied by 
McPhail.    What is greenwells feather?   I can not 
find any listing my catalogs.  Thanks for answering.   
Dail

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  Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 
  11:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells 
  Glory
  

  Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM
   
  Materials are listed at the begining. 
   
  

 
  On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net 
wrote:

  

Help   I saw a U Tube 
video  on tying  a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory.  The 
recipe was not clear.   What feathers are used on this 
fly?   I know someone on this list has the answer.  
Thanks,   Dail Graham

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Re: [VFB] Head Magnifiers

2010-02-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
Mike,
For me they are the only thing. I read in the other posts that they are not for 
some. I have several types and the Opti Visor is the best for me. I just can't 
tie with a Magnifier Light, I wear bifocal glasses and  a 5X lens in the visor. 
I can look through my bifocals at things on the bench and they are clear and 
then look at the fly in the vise and it is clear without adjusting the visor. 
The only  thing I find when tying at shows is looking up at the person I am 
talking to.. I do automatically raise the visor to look at that person. I go 
almost all day with the visor on my head. This would bother some people and not 
others, maybe I just have a hard head. The Mag Eyes would be second choice they 
are light in weight but I still prefer the Opti Visor. I have two pair the 5X 
for tying and 7X for rod wrapping.
The cheap ones with lights from Harbor Freight are just OK but not as good as 
the better ones. They are usually on sale for less than 5.00
You will have to decide, this is what works best for me.
Tony

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Subject: [VFB] Head Magnifiers
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I am thinking of buying a head magnifier.  I looked at one at the craft store 
and it was $40 for one with one lens.  I looked at Ebay and they start around 
$5.  Does anyone use these and do you have any idea which one to buy?  Are the 
cheapies just as good for tying purposes as the more expensive ones?


Mike

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Re: [VFB] Head Magnifiers

2010-02-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
The lenses come in 1 1/2 to 7 magnification. There is an added small lens that 
brings it up quite a bit. I think it is +10 over the lens you have , it swivels 
on one of the screws.. It is for watchmakers. I really never use mine. The lens 
are replicable with two screws.Some tyers that have tried mine say the +5 lens 
is too much for them and others say it is fine. A lot depends on how far you 
are from the fly. Long arms further than short arms.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Head Magnifiers
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Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 2:03 PM

Tony,

I have bifocals as well.  Do your Opti-Visors have the small magnifier len(s) 
that adds to the strength of the primary one or is it one lens?

Mike

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Mike,
For me they are the only thing. I read in the other posts that they are not for 
some. I have several types and the Opti Visor is the best for me. I just can't 
tie with a Magnifier Light, I wear bifocal glasses and  a 5X lens in the visor. 
I can look through my bifocals at things on the bench and they are clear and 
then look at the fly in the vise and it is clear without adjusting the visor. 
The only  thing I find when tying at shows is looking up at the person I am 
talking to.. I do automatically raise the visor to look at that person. I go 
almost all day with the visor on my head. This would bother some people and not 
others, maybe I just have a hard head. The Mag Eyes would be second choice they 
are light in weight but I still prefer the Opti Visor. I have two pair the 5X 
for tying and 7X for rod wrapping.

The cheap ones with lights from
 Harbor Freight are just OK but not as good as the better ones. They are 
usually on sale for less than 5.00
You will have to decide, this is what works best for me.
Tony

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From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com
Subject: [VFB] Head Magnifiers

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 11:03 PM

I am thinking of buying a head magnifier.  I looked at one at the craft store 
and it was $40 for one with one lens.  I looked at Ebay and they start around 
$5.  Does anyone use these and do you have any idea which one to buy?  Are the 
cheapies just as good for tying purposes as the more expensive ones?



Mike

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Re: [VFB] Tony

2010-02-03 Thread Anthony Spezio
How True. LOL
Tony

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Tony

 

I'm also short and most are taller, but the best thing about being short

is were the last one to be hit when the sky is falling

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RE: [VFB] Knotted legs

2010-02-08 Thread Anthony Spezio
Bob,
This is my son's project, I only did the tying. LOL
There are two DVDs to the set with 9 flies and tying tips. Most of he nine 
flies you will not find the recipe in books.
There is Tony's Froggie, Knitpikin Mayfly, Chili Pepper, White River Demon, 
Epoxi Minnow, Stillborn Emerger, Coffee Bean Beetle, Al's Fly and the Tape Wing 
Caddis.
Anyone interested can contact me off list
bambot...@yahoo.com


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Subject: RE: [VFB] Knotted legs
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:49 PM




Tony,

 

Where can I find your DVD?  I need to learn some tricks and helps that I cant 
get from the books I have been using.  I tried to tie a fly on a size 20 the 
other day and was getting really frustrated.  Course Im just getting back into 
tying after not doing it for a couple of years.  Wasnt that good to begin with 
though.  :)

 

Bob Scarbrough
 


Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:35:31 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Knotted legs
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com







I was asked about making Knotted Legs on another list.
Thought it might start a tread on this list so I am posting a part of the 
message I sent

-Took these this morning, The feather is a beat up Pheasant tail feather so the 
legs are not the best, it is just what I had right here.
This is how I make my Knotted Legs
# 1 Feather held in the vise.
# 2  Make a loop around the Knipicker shaft
# 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through the loop, this makes an overhand knot.
# 4 Knotted leg
# 5 Two Knotted Legs
# 6 Three Knotted Legs Removed from Quill
# 7 Knitpicker and Knotted Legs.

I was also asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this case I did not but I 
do at times.
Here is that reply

Another list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was my reply to 
him.
I sometimes coat them with a fixative that is used for spraying over pencil 
drawings but not always. It can be done either way. Spraying them makes it 
easier to separate the barbs for making the knot.

The Knit Pickers
I was getting then in the Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I think they 
went up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the Knitpikin Mayfly tail 
and body that I have on my tying DVD.
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Re: [VFB] Knotted legs

2010-02-08 Thread Anthony Spezio
Nick,
I am still looking for one of those dubbing boxes like you had at the Sowbug.
Tony

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From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:09 PM



 
Meddelande

I 
often use the knitpicker too, both for knotting legs, weaving and 
other loop 
operations. My one came together 
with a dubbing dispenser, to pull out 
the
dubbing through the holes on the back of the 
compartments.
 
/Nick

  
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Ämne: [VFB] Knotted 
  legs


  


  

I was asked about making Knotted Legs on another 
list.
Thought it might start a tread on this list so I am posting a 
part of the message I sent

-Took these this morning, The feather 
is a beat up Pheasant tail feather so the legs are not the best, it is 
just what I had right here.
This is how I make my Knotted Legs
# 1 
Feather held in the vise.
# 2  Make a loop around the Knipicker 
shaft
# 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through the loop, this makes 
an overhand knot.
# 4 Knotted leg
# 5 Two Knotted Legs
# 6 
Three Knotted Legs Removed from Quill
# 7 Knitpicker and Knotted 
Legs.

I was also asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this 
case I did not but I do at times.
Here is that reply

Another 
  list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was my reply 
to 
  him.
I sometimes coat them with a fixative that is used for 
  spraying over pencil drawings but not 
  always. It can be done either way. Spraying them makes it easier to 
  separate the barbs for making the knot.

The Knit Pickers
I 
  was getting then in the Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I 
  think they went up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the 
  Knitpikin Mayfly tail and body that I have on my tying 
  DVD.
Tony


  
  


  



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Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers

2010-02-09 Thread Anthony Spezio
Don,
I have those what I was wanting is a cube with small compartments. It is handy 
for carrying a lot of different colors tor traveling..
Looks like Wapsi has them and Nick found them in Bozman for 6.00. It has 30 
compartments.
Tony

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From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:30 AM


Meddelande
 
 

Tony,
This what you looking for? 
 http://www.baxterhouseflyshop.com/servlet/the-121/Fly-Tying-Material%2C-Dubbing%2C/Detail
 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:29 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs
  

  


  Nick,
I am still looking for one of those dubbing 
boxes like you had at the Sowbug.
Tony

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wrote:


From: 
  Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Knotted legs
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:09 PM


  
  I often use the knitpicker too, both for 
  knotting legs, weaving and other 
  loop 
  operations. My one 
  came together with a dubbing dispenser, 
  to pull out the
  dubbing through the holes on the back of the 
  compartments.
   
  /Nick
  

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18:36
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Ämne: 
[VFB] Knotted legs



  
  

  
  I was asked about making Knotted Legs on 
  another list.
Thought it might start a tread on this list 
  so I am posting a part of the message I sent

-Took 
  these this morning, The feather is a beat up Pheasant tail 
  feather so the legs are not the best, it is just what I had 
  right here.
This is how I make my Knotted Legs
# 1 
  Feather held in the vise.
# 2  Make a loop around the 
  Knipicker shaft
# 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through 
  the loop, this makes an overhand knot.
# 4 Knotted leg
# 
  5 Two Knotted Legs
# 6 Three Knotted Legs Removed from 
  Quill
# 7 Knitpicker and Knotted Legs.

I was also 
  asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this case I did not 
  but I do at times.
Here is that reply

  Another 
list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was 
my reply to him.
I sometimes coat them with a fixative 
that is used for spraying over pencil drawings 
but not always. It can be done either way. Spraying them 
makes it easier to separate the barbs for making the 
knot.

The Knit Pickers
I was getting then in the 
Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I think they went 
up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the Knitpikin 
Mayfly tail and body that I have on my tying 
DVD.
Tony




  
  




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RE: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers - FYI

2010-02-09 Thread Anthony Spezio
Been there done that, it was not what I had wanted. Good idea for those that do 
not know about it.
Tony

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Subject: RE: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers - FYI
To: Fly Swap vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:22 AM




 

My two cents worth, you can find plactis boxes at sporting goods stores and like

Wla-Mart and make your own.

Jerry McKaughan,President
Caddis Fly Fishing Club
P. O. Box 9104
Russellville, AR 72811
www.caddisflyfishers.org



 


Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:53:52 -0800
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Don,
I have those what I was wanting is a cube with small compartments. It is handy 
for carrying a lot of different colors tor traveling..
Looks like Wapsi has them and Nick found them in Bozman for 6.00. It has 30 
compartments.
Tony

--- On Tue, 2/9/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote:


From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:30 AM






Tony,
This what you looking for? 
 http://www.baxterhouseflyshop.com/servlet/the-121/Fly-Tying-Material%2C-Dubbing%2C/Detail
 


- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Spezio 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs





Nick,
I am still looking for one of those dubbing boxes like you had at the Sowbug.
Tony

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote:


From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:09 PM



I often use the knitpicker too, both for knotting legs, weaving and other loop 
operations. My one came together with a dubbing dispenser, to pull out the
dubbing through the holes on the back of the compartments.
 
/Nick


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Ämne: [VFB] Knotted legs







I was asked about making Knotted Legs on another list.
Thought it might start a tread on this list so I am posting a part of the 
message I sent

-Took these this morning, The feather is a beat up Pheasant tail feather so the 
legs are not the best, it is just what I had right here.
This is how I make my Knotted Legs
# 1 Feather held in the vise.
# 2  Make a loop around the Knipicker shaft
# 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through the loop, this makes an overhand knot.
# 4 Knotted leg
# 5 Two Knotted Legs
# 6 Three Knotted Legs Removed from Quill
# 7 Knitpicker and Knotted Legs.

I was also asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this case I did not but I 
do at times.
Here is that reply

Another list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was my reply to 
him.
I sometimes coat them with a fixative that is used for spraying over pencil 
drawings but not always. It can be done either way. Spraying them makes it 
easier to separate the barbs for making the knot.

The Knit Pickers
I was getting then in the Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I think they 
went up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the Knitpikin Mayfly tail 
and body that I have on my tying DVD.
Tony











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Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers

2010-02-09 Thread Anthony Spezio
Wes,
I have several binders made up that way for some small hackle capes. It works 
fine and it would work as well for dubbing as you say. This is bringing out a 
number of good ideas and gets the list active. Keep it up.
Tony

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From: Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 10:15 AM

My favorite for travel is to get a lightweight binder and put in 8-1/2 x 11  
pages of clear plastic business card files.  Each pocket meant to hold a 
business card will hold a LOT of dubbing.  For an additional trick, punch a 
hole in the face of each pocket and pull the dubbing through the hole for a 
dispenser.  My travel binder has about 60 different kinds of dubbing in it, and 
it takes next to no space and weighs very little.  It all fits in a side pocket 
of the case that I transport my tying vise in.

Wes WadaBend, Oregon


On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote:

Don,
I have those what I was wanting is a cube with small compartments. It is handy 
for carrying a lot of different colors tor traveling..

Looks like Wapsi has them and Nick found them in Bozman for 6.00. It has 30 
compartments.
Tony

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From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers

To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:30 AM



 
 

Tony,
This what you looking for? 
 http://www.baxterhouseflyshop.com/servlet/the-121/Fly-Tying-Material%2C-Dubbing%2C/Detail

 


  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Anthony 
  Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:29 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs
  

  


  Nick,
I am still looking for one of those dubbing 
boxes like you had at the Sowbug.
Tony

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From: 
  Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
Subject: 
  Re: [VFB] Knotted legs
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: 
  Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:09 PM


  
  I often use the knitpicker too, both for 
  knotting legs, weaving and other 
  loop 
  operations. My one 
  came together with a dubbing dispenser, 
  to pull out the
  dubbing through the holes on the back of the 
  compartments.
   
  /Nick
  

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[VFB] Knotted legs



  
  

  
  I was asked about making Knotted Legs on 
  another list.
Thought it might start a tread on this list 
  so I am posting a part of the message I sent

-Took 
  these this morning, The feather is a beat up Pheasant tail 
  feather so the legs are not the best, it is just what I had 
  right here.
This is how I make my Knotted Legs
# 1 
  Feather held in the vise.
# 2  Make a loop around the 
  Knipicker shaft
# 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through 
  the loop, this makes an overhand knot.
# 4 Knotted leg
# 
  5 Two Knotted Legs
# 6 Three Knotted Legs Removed from 
  Quill
# 7 Knitpicker and Knotted Legs.

I was also 
  asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this case I did not 
  but I do at times.
Here is that reply

  Another 
list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was 
my reply to him.
I sometimes coat them with a fixative 
that is used for spraying over pencil drawings 
but not always. It can be done either way. Spraying them 
makes it easier to separate the barbs for making the 
knot.

The Knit Pickers
I was getting then in the 
Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I think they went 
up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the Knitpikin 
Mayfly tail and body that I have on my tying 
DVD.
Tony




  
  




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Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers

2010-02-09 Thread Anthony Spezio
Another good idea.
Tony

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers
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Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 1:16 PM


Meddelande
 
 

Ok, nice topic. 
Here is my shot at a better mousetrap: 
my favorite dubbing dispenser. 
It's sawn out of channel plates, which are 
polyacrylate plates used for transparent roofs over terraces and 
such.
They are double walled plates with ribs 
dividing the plate into channels. The plate is 0.25 thick and the channels are 
0,4 wide.
Just saw the plate (they come in 40 x 40) to size 
(my dispensers are about 5 x 4) and voila. 
Each of those channels packs the same amount of 
dubbing as one of the compartments in the compartment boxes we all 
know.  
IMO the perfect box for traveling fly 
tiers.
Mart
 

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Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers

2010-02-10 Thread Anthony Spezio
Wes,
This works well, I use 1 gallon plastic zip lock bags. Really makes things 
simple. I carry five bags for the five flies I normally tie at shows. I see no 
need to carry a load of stuff I will not be using. As for the hooks, I have a 
12 compartment box that will cover any hooks I might need. I was putting them 
in small bags but I quit doing that.
Tony

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I have done something similar with 8-1/2 x 11 page protectors.  Only I
put in all the materials
needed for a certain fly.  Hooks and dubbings are put in small zip loc bags
and then into the
page protector.   I label each page  and it makes things easier when I
want to tie something
like a White River Demon, Muddler Minnow, or a Klinkhammer.  This is my one
attempt so
far to get some organization to my otherwise complete mess of fly tying
materials.





                                                                           
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My favorite for travel is to get a lightweight binder and put in 8-1/2 x
11  pages of clear plastic business card files.  Each pocket meant to hold
a business card will hold a LOT of dubbing.  For an additional trick, punch
a hole in the face of each pocket and pull the dubbing through the hole for
a dispenser.  My travel binder has about 60 different kinds of dubbing in
it, and it takes next to no space and weighs very little.  It all fits in a
side pocket of the case that I transport my tying vise in.

Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon

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Re: [VFB] Vises

2010-02-10 Thread Anthony Spezio
Bob,
I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, and each 
have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of things 
that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a fast 
production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be hard on 
your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like the Woolly 
Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King 
Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is just 
the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that are 
smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of taking 
the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and complete 
tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the tools I will be 
using at the show.
Tony

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From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM

Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing.  I started on a 
Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal.  A few years ago 
I bought a NorVise.  I have tied on a few others.  Each seems to have its 
particular strength and weakness.  If you enjoy your vise, don't change.  If it 
no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and opinions.  I think Hans 
W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I think you could find on 
the internet.  The best thing to do if you want to make a change is to find a 
full service shop that has several of the vises that you are considering and 
ask to tie on them.  Many will let you sit down and try them out (at least mine 
did).  Lacking that if there is a tying group in your area find out when they 
meet and sit with them and tie on theirs.  It's the best way to decide, 
especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a much more expensive vise.


Mike

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I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the lower 
priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of 
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its 
the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.


 

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Re: [VFB] Vises

2010-02-10 Thread Anthony Spezio
Quality and Service for the most part. As I mentioned, I have a number of 
vises. If I chip the jaws on my 80.00 vise, I might as well chuck it. The 
company is no longer in business. I have another lower priced vise that had 
worn out jaws. If I want to replace them, O have to buy the new upgraded ones 
as the old ones are not available. I have broken the jaws on my JR. they not 
only replaced the jaws but upgraded the jaws and the vise itself and shipped it 
back to me overnight mail as I was doing a show in N.Y.I wanted to use that 
vise at the show. All this at no cost to me. I chipped the jaws on my Regal and 
they replaced them at no cost..

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Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:30 PM




I have a general question about vises.  Whats the differences between the lower 
priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models?  I am thinking of 
upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its 
the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different.

 

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