[VFB] Re: Staying on list now members
We have 221 members, down from 600 but we only hear from a few. How about some of the members that do not reply chime in. Let us know you are out there and where you might be from. Who knows, you might have a list member close by and they might like to fish or tie some flies with you. Tony --- On Mon, 11/23/09, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Staying on list To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 6:31 PM Wow! we not only got Tony to stay we got Mart to chime in. I have missed you Mart. Now if we can get a few more of the old group to come back. Mike On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: Great, that settles it for me - I'll stay too, Tony. And I'll chime in more often if I can add anything worthwhile :-) Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:31 PM Subject: [VFB] Staying on list I had planned to sign off after I sent in my Christmas fly but it seems that several members will do the same. I feel that I should not be responsible for this so I will be staying. I have been with this list since day one and I guess I will miss it if I was to leave. I have been asked to post this to keep others from leaving the list. We have lost too many already. Christmas fly was sent in today. Tony -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Don's DVD
I have just found some time to watch part of Don's DVD. Due to out of state family a here I am not able to watch it all at one time. I have seen loads of tying DVDs but this I will admit will not put you to sleep. This is not a pattern DVD , it is a technique in dubbing. This is a technique I have not seen in all my years of tying. I am very impressed in the way the segments are presented. They are short and to the point. Don also shows a number of finished flies after showing the technique of that particular dubbing segment. I will keep this short because I can go on with it. I can say I am really impressed with the quality and the presentation of this DVD.. No Don is not paying me to say that. Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Don's DVD
Keith, We would like to get you on this side of the pond sometime. Maybe you can get Martin to come with you. Tony --- On Tue, 11/24/09, KP kpt...@btinternet.com wrote: From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Don's DVD To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 7:33 AM So Mr Ordes now that Mr Spezio has whett everyones appetite I have two questions. Did you get my payment? And if you did WHERES MY DVD ? :-) Oh and which of your 47000 email addys do I use now? Yeah I know thats three but hey ho. Thanks kind sir. By the way Mr Spezio it would be a travesty if you left he group. As for Mr Westbeek I saw him at the BFFI and he doesnt look a day older than when I saw him before. And he is STILL a really nice guy... Just like Mr Spezio. Talk soon folks Keith --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Sowbug
Martin was out first tyer from Europe We had one from GB well known name but it slips my mind right now. You would be welcome anytime you can make it. Tony --- On Wed, 11/25/09, KP kpt...@btinternet.com wrote: From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Don's DVD To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 1:07 PM Hi nTony, I have been saying it for the past ten years or thereabouts!! I would LOVE to come out there. Not sure Martin would be able (or willing) to put up with travelling with me! LOL Take care meistro Cheers KP On Nov 24, 7:30 pm, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Keith, We would like to get you on this side of the pond sometime. Maybe you can get Martin to come with you. Tony --- On Tue, 11/24/09, KP kpt...@btinternet.com wrote: From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Don's DVD To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 7:33 AM So Mr Ordes now that Mr Spezio has whett everyones appetite I have two questions. Did you get my payment? And if you did WHERES MY DVD ? :-) Oh and which of your 47000 email addys do I use now? Yeah I know thats three but hey ho. Thanks kind sir. By the way Mr Spezio it would be a travesty if you left he group. As for Mr Westbeek I saw him at the BFFI and he doesnt look a day older than when I saw him before. And he is STILL a really nice guy... Just like Mr Spezio. Talk soon folks Keith --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
That would be a winner to have all three of you here at one time. Maybe I can get Dot to make Spaghetti and Meatballs again. Those waders we found floating in the White leaked like a sieve. Maybe that is why they were in the river but the fly box from pocket I still have. We can take Rene fishing again and this time not have any wind. It will be all new to KP. We have a better place to have the show, much lighter and more pleasant than the Ramada. It has grown quite a bit since you were here. Maybe you can get that Swede Nick to come too. Tony --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl Subject: [VFB] Re: Sowbug To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 1:40 PM And the experience was so good that I'd gladly make the small sacrifice of travelling with KP:-) We could ask Rene to join us and then we would sound like the opening line of one of those jokes: A limey, a cheesehead and a kraut are on a plane... Mart Martin was out first tyer from Europe We had one from GB well known name but it slips my mind right now. You would be welcome anytime you can make it. Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod
Try trolling a heavy Chili Pepper. Tony --- On Fri, 11/27/09, mystikalra...@frontiernet.net mystikalra...@frontiernet.net wrote: From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net mystikalra...@frontiernet.net Subject: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod To: vfb-mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:34 PM I am looking for 5 basic patterns that can be used on a reg trout rod the patterns will be used on a lake and then im looking for 5 other patterns that can be used the same way for salmon and steelhead in the rivers ok so 5 for trout on a reg trout rod on a lake and 5 patterns for salmon and steelhead for the rivers in oregon on a steelhead salmon rod lol i would apperciate any help the lake is dimond lake in oregon and you all know the rivers lol the umpqua so let me know thank you all -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod
It is a Copper Tinsel Chenille Bugger with a burnt orange marabou tail Gold bead head and a Fire orange thread collar behind the bead. Check FAOL, Tony Spezio flies or Chili Pepper. Jim Phillips uses a version of it in a Jig pattern that does real well. Jim Tony --- On Fri, 11/27/09, JC jc.flyf...@yahoo.com wrote: From: JC jc.flyf...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 5:36 PM I have not heard of that one, what does that look like, pattern? From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:46 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod Try trolling a heavy Chili Pepper. Tony --- On Fri, 11/27/09, mystikalra...@frontiernet.net mystikalra...@frontiernet.net wrote: From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net mystikalra...@frontiernet.net Subject: [VFB] looking for patterns that can be used on reg fishing rod To: vfb-mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:34 PM I am looking for 5 basic patterns that can be used on a reg trout rod the patterns will be used on a lake and then im looking for 5 other patterns that can be used the same way for salmon and steelhead in the rivers ok so 5 for trout on a reg trout rod on a lake and 5 patterns for salmon and steelhead for the rivers in oregon on a steelhead salmon rod lol i would apperciate any help the lake is dimond lake in oregon and you all know the rivers lol the umpqua so let me know thank you all -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com [The entire original message is not included] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
There is a new Airport in Branson. Missouri. They have lower fares and it is only just over an hour from us instead of three hours like Springfield. We will even feed you on Friday night. Tony --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:02 AM Well gang, that would be a great trip. And, ... why not: from Europe they fly into 2 or 3 airports in the US which are relevant for us. maybe Chicago, Maybe Ford Worth. Arrange flight so that we can meet there and take the last flight to Springfield together. Or maybe we can arrange to meet in Heathrow or Amsterdam. Share the rental car at Springfield plus fuel (Keith: You are not eligible to drive it, you Limeys are driving on the wrong (I SAY WRONG!!!) side of the road, maybe the cheesehead, he is used to these low speeds over there G). And do some fishing. Share a cabin Can reduce costs for the 3 of us. Kraut Rene Martin Westbeek wrote: And the experience was so good that I'd gladly make the small sacrifice of travelling with KP:-) We could ask Rene to join us and then we would sound like the opening line of one of those jokes: A limey, a cheesehead and a kraut are on a plane... Mart Martin was out first tyer from Europe We had one from GB well known name but it slips my mind right now. You would be welcome anytime you can make it. Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today
Finished up some of my Promised flies today and got them sent out. Had planned on planing out some bamboo for a 1 wt rod but I did not get to it. Tony --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 3:42 PM Mighty quiet today. I don't know about ya'll, but I've kinda enjoyed the peace and quiet we've had these last few days. Now we have a little lull and that perplexes me. I've been looking to see a post that all of us can join in on and help another VFB member. Or at least have a fishing/tying problem to share with the group. I've even tried to slip in a controversial Quote for the Day, but only one or two of you have commented. I'm sure this is just a passing thing and you guys are' either fishing, tying flies or doing other family oriented stuff. Many of us have been blessed with the opportunity to go fish. I wish I could, but alas, my feet are so shot that the only wading I can do is on a smooth, gravel bottom. So, I'm tying more flies than usual and working on my second outdoor humor book. Jody say's I'll never finish it, but I will just to spite her. I'm looking forward to Sow Bug and getting to see old friends. I've missed the last two because of family opportunities. I love the VFB and without it, there would be a big hole in my heart. You guys have done so much for me and especially for Jody during her bout with breast cancer. I love you guys and gals, and count all of you as Family. SO . . . What's going on in your neck of the woods. Anybody want to talk about spine vs spline or Furled leaders? :-P ;-) P.S. If you have a new rod, reel etc. that you'd like to brag on now's the time to do it. I'll start it off. My oldest son gave me a brand new Tibor Light fly reel for my 70th birthday. Its a neat dark green and is the Tail Water CL model. and is engraved with my name and Happy 70th Year of Fishing. Have A Goodun. JIMMY D º ** JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, author Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Ultra light bamboo rods, tiny reels. 1 wt U tube
I have a small reel I was able to get from Dorber. It fits the 1 wt perfect and balances real well. Here is a U tube of one of my 1 wt rods in action down in Texas. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=XKDzyJ8ivAc Tony --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Reuven Segal reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au wrote: From: Reuven Segal reuven_se...@iprimus.com.au Subject: [VFB] Ultra light bamboo rods, tiny reels. To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 7:12 PM What sort of reel would one use for such a rod, I have always been a sucker for ultra light rods, but never seen a reel small or light enough to accomodate them. R Allan Fish wrote: Finished up some of my Promised flies today and got them sent out. Had planned on planing out some bamboo for a 1 wt rod but I did not get to it. Tony Now THAT is a rod I'd like to see when you're done with it. a. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today, now 1 wt
Alan, I don't know of any other than some I have made from broken Graphite rods. There was a guy from N.J. that gave a demo at the Catskill Rodmakers Gathering who showed how to make them. I have used graphite inserts in some of the Bamboo ferrules I have experimented with. If you get to come out for the Sowbug, I can show you them. Tony --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote: From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today, now 1 wt To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:19 PM Tony: Do they make carbon fiber ferrules? If not. why not? if so, where do you get them? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today, now 1 wt Allan, I thought I had shown you the Prototype . I have caught 64 fish on it. To date I have made seven of them. Will have to take it to Crooked Creek when you are here next March. I have three to make before March. The rod is 6'3 long in two piece with a .052 tip at the tip top with a 9/64 ferrule. Tony --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB mighty quiet today To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 7:02 PM Finished up some of my Promised flies today and got them sent out. Had planned on planing out some bamboo for a 1 wt rod but I did not get to it. Tony Now THAT is a rod I'd like to see when you're done with it. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.87/2536 - Release Date: 11/30/09 07:31:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD
Keith, Like you, it came to an end too soon. I had been tying on and off for 20 years and almost full tine the past 20 years but I have not seen this process done that way. Don showed me a bit at the Sowbug several years ago but I really did not have the time to take it in. I was too involved with the show. Make it here in March and you might get to see this done in person. Tony --- On Wed, 12/2/09, KP kpt...@btinternet.com wrote: From: KP kpt...@btinternet.com Subject: [VFB] Rope Dubbing DVD To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 1:21 PM Mr Ordes I am in awe. Well actually in Engerland but hey ho. This DVD thaingy arrived and I enjoyed 98% of it.The bit I didnt enjoy was the music between scenes and the end. The end came too soon. Its well put together, clear, good sound qaulity and picture qaulity is fantastic too. Delivery service was pretty good too. ;-) Many thanks Don Best regards Keith PS If you missed this then you missed a great job folks and you better hope Mr Ordes gets the next batch done ASAP so you can buy one -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED
How about Crooked Creek. Tony --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHED To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 1:09 PM Re: [VFB] RIVERS WE'VE FISHEDWhoops!!! Arkansas - I totally blocked out the area on the White near Cotter and the area below the dam in the same general area. Don't feel bad, Joe. I did too. That's got to be an asterisk river too. Allan -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
We will be glad to have you again. Tony --- On Sun, 12/6/09, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 9:20 AM Hi Tony, Found the airport, but no flights. ... But the drive from springfield isn't that bad G Rene Anthony Spezio wrote: There is a new Airport in Branson. Missouri. They have lower fares and it is only just over an hour from us instead of three hours like Springfield. We will even feed you on Friday night. Tony --- On *Sat, 11/28/09, Rene Zillmann /rene.zillm...@t-online.de/* wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:02 AM Well gang, that would be a great trip. And, ... why not: from Europe they fly into 2 or 3 airports in the US which are relevant for us. maybe Chicago, Maybe Ford Worth. Arrange flight so that we can meet there and take the last flight to Springfield together. Or maybe we can arrange to meet in Heathrow or Amsterdam. Share the rental car at Springfield plus fuel (Keith: You are not eligible to drive it, you Limeys are driving on the wrong (I SAY WRONG!!!) side of the road, maybe the cheesehead, he is used to these low speeds over there G). And do some fishing. Share a cabin Can reduce costs for the 3 of us. Kraut Rene Martin Westbeek wrote: And the experience was so good that I'd gladly make the small sacrifice of travelling with KP:-) We could ask Rene to join us and then we would sound like the opening line of one of those jokes: A limey, a cheesehead and a kraut are on a plane... Mart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Jack Gartside dies
I have one of Jack's Gurgglers he tied for me in exchange for a Froggie. Tony --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Gary Webb glwranger...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gary Webb glwranger...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Jack Gartside dies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 7:26 AM Jack’s fly tying skills were legendary and his impressionistic patterns fooled fish of all species. Gurgler, Soft Hackle Streamer, BMG, Gartside Hopper, Firefly are just a few of the many unique patterns he developed - so often with materials discarded or overlooked by others. http://www.reel-time.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69741 http://www.jackgartside.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Had to share this one.
Bob is a good friend, he was the one that suggested I get into the Fly Tying Show circuit many years ago. Bob was very instrumental in my being known in the tying circles. Arkansas Tony --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: [VFB] Had to share this one. To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 3:51 PM _filtered #yiv883551473 { font-family:Cambria Math;} _filtered #yiv883551473 { font-family:Calibri;} _filtered #yiv883551473 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv883551473 P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE:11pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri, sans-serif;} #yiv883551473 LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE:11pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri, sans-serif;} #yiv883551473 DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE:11pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri, sans-serif;} #yiv883551473 A:link { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv883551473 SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv883551473 A:visited { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv883551473 SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv883551473 SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR:windowtext;FONT-FAMILY:Calibri, sans-serif;} #yiv883551473 .MsoChpDefault { } #yiv883551473 DIV.Section1 { } Guys, Had to share this- made my day. This endorsement ranks right there with Tony's, as they are both equally famous. All comments are important to me, but those coming from famous tiers carry a lot of weight. He's also been tying forever, so it really boosts my confidence. For those who don't know Bob, he's an east-coast tier who is world-famous for his realistic patters, right up there with Blackstone, Whillock, and the others. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Rope Dubbing is a well done DVD clearly demonstrating a variety of dubbing material techniques on the one thing that often gives tyers (and not just beginning tyers) trouble- the natural fur and synthetic material dubbing of a fly's body. Don, a natural on camera, presents his quick and easy methods in an unpretentious, best friend demonstration that anyone watching should be able to pick up on their first try. Especially interesting was the thicker/thinner corrections he employs to arrive at the desired thickness. Working a hackle in with the rope dubbing and thereby completing two tasks at the same time is nothing short of brilliant. If you only buy one fly tying DVD this year, and are looking for something new that will make your tying hours easier, this is the one. Bob Mead DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] FW: Advice
Thanks Thomas, I have Adobe Reader installed. It just flashes and is gone. Tells me it can't read the attachment. Tony --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch wrote: From: Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Subject: Re: [VFB] FW: Advice To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 4:58 PM you will need the adobe reader to open Thomas Anthony Spezio schrieb: Will not open for me. Tony --- On *Wed, 12/9/09, iain short /iainsh...@hotmail.com/* wrote: From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com Subject: [VFB] FW: Advice To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:44 PM see attached I couldn't stop laughing...J Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394593/direct/01/%20 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] FW: Advice
Thanks Nick. Tony --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] FW: Advice To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 7:10 PM Meddelande Tony, I made it as a picture file, so I could show my friends at the Swedish forum. Here it is, so you don't have to bother with the Adobe file anymore. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Anthony Spezio Skickat: den 10 december 2009 00:26 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] FW: Advice Thanks Thomas, I have Adobe Reader installed. It just flashes and is gone. Tells me it can't read the attachment. Tony --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch wrote: From: Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Subject: Re: [VFB] FW: Advice To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 4:58 PM you will need the adobe reader to open Thomas Anthony Spezio schrieb: Will not open for me. Tony --- On *Wed, 12/9/09, iain short /iainsh...@hotmail.com/* wrote: From: iain short iainsh...@hotmail.com Subject: [VFB] FW: Advice To: VFB-new vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:44 PM see attached I couldn't stop laughing...J Add other email accounts to Hotmail in 3 easy steps. Find out how. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394593/direct/01/%20 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug
And a lot of phone calls from Menphis to Springfield. LOL We had a good time though, will be glad to have you back Tony. --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 6:47 AM 2008, when I was there, I flew to Memphis. From there I was going to fly to Springfield, where Tony was going to pick me up. I don't remember for what reason, but Tony said that he might not be able to come right away (it might have been the time) and I should be prepared to stay at motel in Springfield to be picked up the following day. Well, I was met by a blizzard in Memphis. Almost all departures (or all) got cancelled. So I had to stay at the airport over night. They were handing out mattresses and blankets. People were sleeping everywhere and the airport looked more like a homeless shelter than anything else. And as finishing touch to the story: Tony and Mike DID decide to come to Springfield the same day as planned... so instead of me spending the night in Springfield waiting for them, they were the ones ending up in a motel waiting for me. LOL /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Rene Zillmann [mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de] Skickat: den 6 december 2009 16:21 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug Hi Tony, Found the airport, but no flights. ... But the drive from springfield isn't that bad G Rene Anthony Spezio wrote: There is a new Airport in Branson. Missouri. They have lower fares and it is only just over an hour from us instead of three hours like Springfield. We will even feed you on Friday night. Tony --- On *Sat, 11/28/09, Rene Zillmann /rene.zillm...@t-online.de/* wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: Sowbug To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:02 AM Well gang, that would be a great trip. And, ... why not: from Europe they fly into 2 or 3 airports in the US which are relevant for us. maybe Chicago, Maybe Ford Worth. Arrange flight so that we can meet there and take the last flight to Springfield together. Or maybe we can arrange to meet in Heathrow or Amsterdam. Share the rental car at Springfield plus fuel (Keith: You are not eligible to drive it, you Limeys are driving on the wrong (I SAY WRONG!!!) side of the road, maybe the cheesehead, he is used to these low speeds over there G). And do some fishing. Share a cabin Can reduce costs for the 3 of us. Kraut Rene Martin Westbeek wrote: And the experience was so good that I'd gladly make the small sacrifice of travelling with KP:-) We could ask Rene to join us and then we would sound like the opening line of one of those jokes: A limey, a cheesehead and a kraut are on a plane... Mart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Tony DVD
Chuck, As long as you mention my DVD's here I will mention I have a two DVD set on tying, with tying tips and materials for each fly. It includes step by step tying of the Knitpikin Mayfly, Chili Pepper, Epoxy Minnow and Tony's Froggie among others, a total of nine flies. Anyone interested, contact me off list at bambot...@yahoo.com for information. Please keep it off list Tony --- On Sun, 12/13/09, chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbers respond To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 2:41 AM DonO; One thing I learned right off the bat is that your last name is pronounced Ordes, not OrdEEz like I always thought it was. I had pronounced it with a hard E ever since I met you LOL. Same with Tony before I watched his videos. I thought his name was SpEEzio not Spehzio like he pronounces it. Learn something every day huh??? Chuck Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: [VFB] Rope-dubbers respond Well, just about everyone who ordered DVDs should have them by now (two in route), and most have had at least a week to view and try out the techniques- either for the 1st time, improvement , or extension of the technique. Would like to get some comments: Your thoughts on the DVD and ease of transition into tying- Your first tries at rope-dubbing- Your re-tries (re-ties) at rope-dubbing and the extensions- Your overall opinion of the results you're getting: ease of adaptation, speed, dubbing results, fun, etc. If you're having a problem, go ahead and bring it out. Don't be shy. I spent an entire afternoon at a fly-show with a 25 year veteran professional tier/guide coaching him on getting a perfect rope-dubbed dry fly body. His problem- doing it so long one way made him want to do it the same way. DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...Nick
Nick, I told Don about the same thing, the two thumbs is the answer. I guess I was dubbing like you were and had the same results. I got a quick look at Don dubbing in March of 06 but it was just a glance as I was real busy with the show. I have not been able to do much since I got the DVD and have not tried to Rope Dub yet. I had a light stroke, I will be going in for surgery tomorrow for something else and will see about doing some while recovering. Tony --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...Nick To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 3:31 PM Meddelande Thanks. It's a two color in one rope... but it wasn't in 30-45 seconds. It was possible to actually make it, but it wasn't as easy as it would have been with Ice Dub. Maybe after a few other ones. LOL I had understood the basics of how the technique WORKS and I have done quite a lot of rope dubbed flies (including your caseless caddis)... but my bad before seing the DVD has been the technique to actually build the rope. My way has been different from yours (for years). Bad 1: I've been sitting with the bobbin in one hand (right) working the rope with the other (thread towards me), which means working mostly the tip part of the noodle... a single hand rope-dub. Bad 2: When starting up, this has meant one-handed wrapping the noodle around the thread to get it spiraled before beginning to twist holding the tip. With short fibred dubbing, the noodle will fall into pieces in two seconds. Squirrel yeah, right!! This way works great with Ice-Dub, Crystal Seal, Fly-Rite and a few others that I have... soft and/or long fibres... really co-operative dubbing noodles which hold together while being wrapped. Since it worked so good with these, I just accepted the fact that it wasn't really a short/stiff dubbing thing... and since I had accepted that, I wasn't in a search mode when I read that article either. I already knew my way and it worked fine to me, so I was just taking in what I could ADD to it. But the way I saw now... working the rope with TWO opposable thumbs... was a revelation for sure. The second I saw how you started working the rope with two hands, I felt that chill running down the back of my body. Aaaha.. There is a really funny (or sad) thing about this story. Fact is, that I knew enough to crack this myself... and I have known it since March 2006!!! When I met you at Sowbug, I saw that you did it different from how I did it. I saw that you didn't hold the bobbin the way I did it... but in my head, it wasn't more than that we did the same thing with our threads in different angles. My focus was on meeting you and not look deeper into how you did the rope dub. (I already knew how it was done.) When I got home, I just continued my way... still knowing that you did it your way. If I had only TRIED to hold it your way... with the thread through my hand and the bobbin hanging freely... I'm sure that two-thumb secret would have been cracked quite easily. So that chill I felt this morning wasn't only an Aha that's how he does it!!.. but actually more of a That's WHY he does it!!. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Don Ordes Skickat: den 15 december 2009 19:50 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...Nick Nick, Nice fly!!! That one is ready to fish, and with a bead-head it would be a nice bead-head fly. LOL Did you do the two (3?) colors in one rope, or two steps? That should be a 30 to 45-second fishing fly. Glad you like it. Just about everyone has a portion of the rope-dub down from the VFB article, but everyone says they have benefitted greatly from the DVD. DonO - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: [VFB] Rope-Dub result... I got the DVD yesterday. It was a big Aha!!! I have had the technique explained to me in text format once, but it seems that I had misunderstood some. That's why I have only used it with a limited number of materials. But now the pieces fell into place... and I understood what he had meant with the words 'easy' and 'simple'. and 'using any form of'. I have a squirrel dubbing that has seemed like it was made for the purpose of giving me headache. Short, stiff and sticky... and the noodles have been breaking into fragments and fallen of the thread. If someone, yesterday, had told me that it was possible to make a rock hard and
Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result...
Nick, That is a patch of Russian Seal from Dot's fur coat that I hated. She had that coat before I even knew her. Finally one day she said to dump it. I cut it up and gave a lot of it away. Some of the old timers before this list have chunks of it when I gave away bags of fur to whoever wanted it. Glad to see it being used. Tony --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result... To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:49 PM Meddelande And not to forget the BONUS that came with this DVD: For the Fanatic Swap I'm currently tying a fly with a wing of something that Tony gave me in a (quite full) Bits Pieces bag, when I stayed at his house. I had no idea what it was. I sat in front of the TV and saw him fiddling with a black hair patch, saying I believe this is Russian Sable... long dense underfur and very few guard hairs... and then saw the bunch of hairs after he had cut it... I felt that chill again. THAT'S THE 'JOHN DOE' PATCH THAT'S LYING BY MY VISE!!! So, thank's DonO. The DVD made my day... twice!! /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För chuckalexan...@hughes.net Skickat: den 16 december 2009 01:21 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result... Nick: Thanks a lot. I'll order some. The price is right as well, Chuck - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result... A quick search in the 'IMDB' (not the Internet Movie Data Base... but in the Infamous Material Data Base) shows that it is a dubbing from Wapsi called 'Natural Nymph Blend' (80% squirrel - 20% rabbit). It was bought in a sport shop in Gävle in Sweden. I can't find the dubbing in Wapsi's product catalogue though. But I found it here: http://shopflyfishingspecialties.com/wapsi-squirrel-dubbing-pr-16669.html /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För chuckalexan...@hughes.net Skickat: den 15 december 2009 23:22 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] Rope-Dub result... Nick: That is an awesome looking fly. It looks JUST LIKE a certain insect that I'm trying to place but can't right now. A hellmagranite??? Or a certain type stonefly?? I can't find the book I found it in right now, but it looks IDENTICAL to that particular insect. Where do you get that squirrel dubbing??? Can you make it yourself?? Thanks, Chuck Chuck - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: [VFB] Rope-Dub result... I got the DVD yesterday. It was a big Aha!!! I have had the technique explained to me in text format once, but it seems that I had misunderstood some. That's why I have only used it with a limited number of materials. But now the pieces fell into place... and I understood what he had meant with the words 'easy' and 'simple'. and 'using any form of'. I have a squirrel dubbing that has seemed like it was made for the purpose of giving me headache. Short, stiff and sticky... and the noodles have been breaking into fragments and fallen of the thread. If someone, yesterday, had told me that it was possible to make a rock hard and segmented body out of that one, I would have answered: Of course... laminate sand and you can make a rock hard and segmented body out of that too. Watched the DVD around 3 o'clock this morning (didn't yawn once). Today I dug out that squirrel, just to give it a try (for the sake of it). First try attached... GO DON! WHEN'S THE NEXT ONE COMING /Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You
Re: Photographing Flies Was... RE: [VFB] More rope dubbed flies
Got a 404 Not Found Tony --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Taylor, Lance lance.tay...@sobeys.com wrote: From: Taylor, Lance lance.tay...@sobeys.com Subject: Photographing Flies Was... RE: [VFB] More rope dubbed flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 10:26 AM If you have a hot shoe type flash, place a white business envelope over it, and hold in place with a rubber band. Or try taping a white piece of a few small layers thick over your smaller size flashes to cut down on the harshness of it. Or, invest in or DIY your own light box – and use a bounce flash technique to get even lighting with no hard spots. http://www.google.ca/#hl=ensource=hpq=light+boxbtnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq=light+boxfp=ca7bc37eb6518610 RB From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chuckalexan...@hughes.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:25 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] More rope dubbed flies I'd say you stood farther away and put the camera on zoom??? That's how I do shiny stuff??? Chuck - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] More rope dubbed flies Taking a pic of shiny synthetic flies takes some experimentation, especially with the flash and lighting. Figure out how I took this one. LOL - Original Message - From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] More rope dubbed flies Don: i just did this fly and it seemed to segment better for me and I like the taper a LOT better than my other ones. This is the only hot pink dubbing I had, so I just have to use it till I can order something different. I like working with the ice dub though. I hate how the macro setting on a nearly $500 camera (Sony DSC-H2) shows off EVERY tiny mistake though LOL.. Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies
Chuck, Are they still available. Tony --- On Fri, 12/18/09, chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 4:46 PM _filtered #yiv1808268071 { font-family:Calibri;} _filtered #yiv1808268071 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv1808268071 P.MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt;} #yiv1808268071 LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt;} #yiv1808268071 DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;FONT-SIZE:12pt;} #yiv1808268071 A:link { COLOR:black;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1808268071 SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR:black;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1808268071 A:visited { COLOR:black;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1808268071 SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR:black;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1808268071 P { FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;MARGIN-LEFT:0in;FONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN-RIGHT:0in;} #yiv1808268071 P.msochpdefault { FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;MARGIN-LEFT:0in;FONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN-RIGHT:0in;} #yiv1808268071 LI.msochpdefault { FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;MARGIN-LEFT:0in;FONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN-RIGHT:0in;} #yiv1808268071 DIV.msochpdefault { FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;MARGIN-LEFT:0in;FONT-SIZE:12pt;MARGIN-RIGHT:0in;} #yiv1808268071 P.msochpdefault1 { FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;MARGIN-LEFT:0in;FONT-SIZE:10pt;MARGIN-RIGHT:0in;} #yiv1808268071 LI.msochpdefault1 { FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;MARGIN-LEFT:0in;FONT-SIZE:10pt;MARGIN-RIGHT:0in;} #yiv1808268071 DIV.msochpdefault1 { FONT-FAMILY:Times New Roman, serif;MARGIN-LEFT:0in;FONT-SIZE:10pt;MARGIN-RIGHT:0in;} #yiv1808268071 SPAN.emailstyle18 { } #yiv1808268071 SPAN.emailstyle181 { FONT-FAMILY:Calibri, sans-serif;COLOR:#1f497d;} #yiv1808268071 SPAN.EmailStyle22 { FONT-FAMILY:Calibri, sans-serif;COLOR:#1f497d;} #yiv1808268071 SPAN.EmailStyle23 { FONT-FAMILY:Calibri, sans-serif;COLOR:#1f497d;} #yiv1808268071 .msochpdefault { FONT-SIZE:10pt;} #yiv1808268071 DIV.Section1 { } I bought mine on ebay which is about 24 inches square for less than 20 bucks, Chuck - Original Message - From: Taylor, Lance To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies More thoughts on this. A DIY Light box for under $40. I know my buddy 'Pacres' built one simillar and it works great. But I could not be bothered to clutter my tying bench with more stuff. http://www.instructables.com/id/Do-It-Yourself-Photography-Light-Box-for-Under-40/ And really, we are talking about photographing small flies here after all, a piece of paper rolled into a tube could also work as a 'Micro Light Box'. Check out this sample with a shiny lithium battery in it for how well it works. http://tinkerlog.com/2007/10/14/micro-light-box/ I personally use this contraption I had custom made for me, with an overhead flourescent light, as my diffusor. http://flyangler.ca/forum/index.php?showtopic=2527hl=photographing+flies Finally, low-tech, simply place them on a flatbed scanner – which works best for streamers, buggers, etc.. with a white gummy eraser to prop the lid up. Get great even lighting that way too. Hope that helps. Lance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies
Thanks Jim, I just dumped all the Lance Taylor messages. Had saved them to open later. Tony --- On Sun, 12/20/09, jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 2:29 PM I opened one of the sources provided by Lance and my PC CRASHED! The source has a trojan/virus within. I lost my screen/desktop, Microsoft is investigating the problem. This is why I do not download videos, PPS or open attachments. A new PC with 6 gigs memory, and a 650 gig harddrive now has to be gone thru. Hope you were unscathed. Merry Christmas Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:49:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies From: ladyflyt...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I built a light box using Kyle Hand's instructions on the McFeathers.com site, however I had a shadow behind bog streamers, so this year I picked up a ring flash. It solved the shadow problem and I can use it at shows with a piece of mat board as a background. Actually I watched someone photograph everyone tying at Conclave and went to see just what he was using, sweet idea. And don't look for a Brand name ring flash, the Nikon one is out of sight price wise, but there are a couple of ones in the $100 area, that work just as well Peggy Brenner On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Taylor, Lance lance.tay...@sobeys.com wrote: More thoughts on this. A DIY Light box for under $40. I know my buddy 'Pacres' built one simillar and it works great. But I could not be bothered to clutter my tying bench with more stuff. http://www.instructables.com/id/Do-It-Yourself-Photography-Light-Box-for-Under-40/ And really, we are talking about photographing small flies here after all, a piece of paper rolled into a tube could also work as a 'Micro Light Box'. Check out this sample with a shiny lithium battery in it for how well it works. http://tinkerlog.com/2007/10/14/micro-light-box/ I personally use this contraption I had custom made for me, with an overhead flourescent light, as my diffusor. http://flyangler.ca/forum/index.php?showtopic=2527hl=photographing+flies Finally, low-tech, simply place them on a flatbed scanner – which works best for streamers, buggers, etc.. with a white gummy eraser to prop the lid up. Get great even lighting that way too. Hope that helps. Lance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Peggy Brenner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies
No reflection on Lance at all, things happen. I was glad you pointed it out to the list. I really wanted to open them but I was just not up to doing it then. I had just gotten home and had two days of mail to open. Thanks again Jim, it will help all of us. Sorry you had the misfortune of the computer crash. Tony --- On Sun, 12/20/09, jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 4:28 PM I don't think Lance knew that they were there. They were Trojans that were hidden and became activated after looking at the site. Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:47:28 -0800 From: bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Thanks Jim, I just dumped all the Lance Taylor messages. Had saved them to open later. Tony --- On Sun, 12/20/09, jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: jim phillips desert-tr...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 2:29 PM #yiv1669526419 .ExternalClass #ecxyiv1642948605 .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} #yiv1669526419 .ExternalClass #ecxyiv1642948605 {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} I opened one of the sources provided by Lance and my PC CRASHED! The source has a trojan/virus within. I lost my screen/desktop, Microsoft is investigating the problem. This is why I do not download videos, PPS or open attachments. A new PC with 6 gigs memory, and a 650 gig harddrive now has to be gone thru. Hope you were unscathed. Merry Christmas Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:49:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies From: ladyflyt...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I built a light box using Kyle Hand's instructions on the McFeathers.com site, however I had a shadow behind bog streamers, so this year I picked up a ring flash. It solved the shadow problem and I can use it at shows with a piece of mat board as a background. Actually I watched someone photograph everyone tying at Conclave and went to see just what he was using, sweet idea. And don't look for a Brand name ring flash, the Nikon one is out of sight price wise, but there are a couple of ones in the $100 area, that work just as well Peggy Brenner On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Taylor, Lance lance.tay...@sobeys.com wrote: More thoughts on this. A DIY Light box for under $40. I know my buddy 'Pacres' built one simillar and it works great. But I could not be bothered to clutter my tying bench with more stuff. http://www.instructables.com/id/Do-It-Yourself-Photography-Light-Box-for-Under-40/ And really, we are talking about photographing small flies here after all, a piece of paper rolled into a tube could also work as a 'Micro Light Box'. Check out this sample with a shiny lithium battery in it for how well it works. http://tinkerlog.com/2007/10/14/micro-light-box/ I personally use this contraption I had custom made for me, with an overhead flourescent light, as my diffusor. http://flyangler.ca/forum/index.php?showtopic=2527hl=photographing+flies Finally, low-tech, simply place them on a flatbed scanner – which works best for streamers, buggers, etc.. with a white gummy eraser to prop the lid up. Get great even lighting that way too. Hope that helps. Lance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Peggy Brenner -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies Now Jim Messages
My reply messages to the VFB to Jim's messages come back in the Spam folder. I just click Not Spam and it goes to my In Box Tony --- On Tue, 12/22/09, chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 12:25 AM #yiv812479069 .hmmessage P { PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} #yiv812479069 { FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;FONT-SIZE:10pt;} Mine just did the same thing. When I sent that post about my computer blocking Jim's post, my own computer blocked that message from ME LOL. Go figure, Chuck - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies You know...I just got blocked by my own pc, so it may not be Jim, but a carry-over from Mark's smiley faces. Some emails from Jim come in clean, so it depends on the email that everyone is using to make their reply. We can rid ourselves of this by not replying to a vfb email that gets a pop-up of phishing message. Use a fresh email or another one to reply to a blocked email. I'll do a cut-paste of the original to a new mail. That will stop me blocking me, at least. lol DonO - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies Chuck, Jim uses programs that add little photo-things, and my pc won't pass them direct either. It shows a pop-up blocker-type message and asks me if I want to open it. NOTE! These, at least for my pc, carry over to replies, so Tony's reply to Jim and the vfb gets a blocker also. I just hit the 'accept' button and allow it, because I know Jim. Mark Romero created these also on every post- it was the yellow smiley-faces he used. When I reply to these messages, I get the pop-up that pictures will not be added to the reply, even though there aren't any (they were blocked). I have to hit the 'send the darn thing anyway' button. LOL DonO - Original Message - From: Chuck Alexander To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies Computers are weird. My AVG just caught this message and said it was a phishing email (I guess it is since it's a fishing group LOL...But since you didn't ask for my personal info etc, I guess the AVG was wrong... Go figure... I don't know how these antivirals and filters etc work either cause I get emails marked as spam from ppl all the time. I think the programs are set up to err on the safe side, which I guess is a good thing, Chuck - Original Message - From: jim phillips To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:50 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies Allan You are right. Lance - Sorry. To put this to rest: Lance DID NOT send out a virus. I must of had some trojans that were activated by something. I have AVG Free. I have Microsoft Security programs. I just know nothing about computers I am looking at the history to see if my daughter didn't download some music (MP3 and/or videos). This is what caused my other PC to crash; even with two external harddrives that she was to use for downloads. If she was't 25, I would ground her. Merry Christmas Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:08:15 -0500 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com From: afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: [VFB] RE: Photographing Flies This will be my last comment on this. I do not have the energy for Sophmoric responses. Now that sounds like a 'flame' to me! C'mon guys, go off-list if you want to insult one another. FYI, a lot of Trojan Horse worms have a built-in delay - sometimes several days or way more - so there's no way to tell where you got it. So it's difficult to blame a particular website. Fortunately, you're doing the right thing by letting Microsoft investigate it. I checked Lance's URL's with both my Mac and my PC and both of them said they are all 'clean'. Allan -- Allan
Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd
Can you send me a photo, never heard of that fly. I am originally from Jersey. Tony --- On Thu, 12/24/09, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 8:37 AM Hi all, I wish you'all a nice and great Christmas Season. It is a great time for us flytyer.. Found in a store yesterday the perfect copper tinsel for the Jersey Herd pattern. A dark copper. the original material for the body is hard to obtain. It is the closure (cap) of a milk bottle, which is used in the shire Jersey. I have a picture of the fly, and the color looks very close. Have a good time Rene and Family -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd
Being that this is CHRISTMAS I will not rebuttal Allan. I am corrected. it is NOO JOISY where I is from. That is one good looking fly. I guess I should tie some of them for Crooked Creek. I think for the White, an Orange body would also be good. I want to wish all of the list a very happy and Safe CHRISTMAS Season. Tony --- On Fri, 12/25/09, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 5:33 AM Hi Tony, Allan, Merry Christmas to you. Allan is right, the Jersey Herd is from the shire Jersey in England. And the link is excellent, the picture I have in my book is pretty close to the one in the link. I got some hooks from Anna for Christmas, and a new camera from my wife. Should i ty a Jersey Herd and post it...? Rene Allan Fish wrote: Correction, Tony, you're from NEW Jersey. Jersey in in England! g And here's the pattern on-line: http://www.fish4flies.com/Lures/Fry_and_Small_Fish_Patterns/Jersey_Herd Cheers, a. Can you send me a photo, never heard of that fly. I am originally from Jersey. Tony --- On* Thu, 12/24/09, Rene Zillmann/ rene.zillm...@t-online.de/* wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 8:37 AM Hi all, I wish you'all a nice and great Christmas Season. It is a great time for us flytyer.. Found in a store yesterday the perfect copper tinsel for the Jersey Herd pattern. A dark copper. the original material for the body is hard to obtain. It is the closure (cap) of a milk bottle, which is used in the shire Jersey. I have a picture of the fly, and the color looks very close. Have a good time Rene and Family -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd
Please do. Tony --- On Fri, 12/25/09, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 7:29 AM I got some hooks from Anna for Christmas, and a new camera from my wife. Should i ty a Jersey Herd and post it...? Bitte! -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd
Just opened it again from the link below, it popped right up. No waiting this time for the photo. Tony --- On Fri, 12/25/09, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: Re: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 5:33 AM ? Rene Allan Fish wrote: Correction, Tony, you're from NEW Jersey. Jersey in in England! g And here's the pattern on-line: http://www.fish4flies.com/Lures/Fry_and_Small_Fish_Patterns/Jersey_Herd Cheers, a. Can you send me a photo, never heard of that fly. I am originally from Jersey. Tony --- On* Thu, 12/24/09, Rene Zillmann/ rene.zillm...@t-online.de/* wrote: From: Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: [VFB] Happy Christmas and the Jersey Herd To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 24, 2009, 8:37 AM Hi all, I wish you'all a nice and great Christmas Season. It is a great time for us flytyer.. Found in a store yesterday the perfect copper tinsel for the Jersey Herd pattern. A dark copper. the original material for the body is hard to obtain. It is the closure (cap) of a milk bottle, which is used in the shire Jersey. I have a picture of the fly, and the color looks very close. Have a good time Rene and Family -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Fly Fishing stuff for Christmas
If you can send me some photos, I might be able to help you identify them, Jimmy also has some background on bamboo rods. Tony --- On Sat, 12/26/09, mystikalra...@frontiernet.net mystikalra...@frontiernet.net wrote: From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net mystikalra...@frontiernet.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Fly Fishing stuff for Christmas To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 11:32 PM Well Santa didnt get me any fly tying material like i ask for lol so still looking for dyed goose feathers lol im just going to have to break down and get some from feathersmc.com wow nobody in my family listend to me or read my list so the got me an audio system for the house now what am i going to do with that while im tying flies lol i just dont know lol but anyways i was given from a friend that found 3 old bamboo fly rods each are 3 piece units b ut they dont have oll the furles on them so oh well all i know is there old lol and one of them had a 1943 pfluger level line real on it in prety good condition and on the other one a pflugger fly reel not sure of the date on it but will try and find out about them so for now there all put up in the display rack lol will take some pics and post them soon hope everybody got something good lol - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 6:28:20 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [VFB] Fly Fishing stuff for Christmas I'm curious. What did Santa bring you in the way of fly fishing stuff. I got a neat pair of Korkers wading boots. Wow! these ain't your Uncle Marvins kind of boots. Talk about Hi Tech! Got a Carhart canvas vest, a battery operated filet knife, a Dr. Schol's foot massager for when I come in off the stream, a vibrating, pulsating chair seat for my poor back after wading all day. But - I didn't get a single fly rod, not that I need any more. I have 20 right now. Call me a hoarder, but you just can't have too many fly rods. Same goes for fly reels. -- º ** JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, author Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus,Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] blending dubbing
This was an old way to blend dubbing less the softener. A bit messy but it worked. Tony --- On Wed, 12/30/09, mel hocken softhac...@shaw.ca wrote: From: mel hocken softhac...@shaw.ca Subject: Re: [VFB] blending dubbing To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 5:28 PM DonO I used to blend dubbing in a friut jar. Along with the water and dubbing to be blended I used to add a pinch of fabric softener. This would allow the fibers of the dubbing to slid a bit more freely allowing the dubbing to blend thoroughly. Just close the lid and shack the heck out of it. Rinse well and let dry. Happy New Year Mel - Original Message - From: Don Ordes To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: [VFB] blending dubbing I just tried something that worked well. Has anyone else done this? Beats getting dubbing in my espresso via my coffee grinder. I found one hit on the internnet so it is not novel, but I also don't think it is as common as the coffee grinder method. I needed to blend some rabbit-dubbing with some ice-dub, flash dub, quick descent. I needed a good blend and no lumps in the blend. So I filled up a tupperware dish about the size of a coffee-cup with hot tap-water. I added the rabbit dubbing and then chopped up the other 3 dubbings over the container. I stirred until everything broke up and was a well blended soup, than I drained almost all of the water out, leaving the dubbing. I stirred it one more time to make sure the quick-descent was mixed in, then I poured it all out through a paper towel to strain it and then used the paper towel to soak up all of the extra water. The result was a damp glob of well-blended hilited part-natural dubbing. Working with it damp gave me a very tight well-defined segment. But I'm letting the rest dry so I can fluff it a bit and tie some fuzzy hares ears that have cool colors mixed in with the rabbit. These colors will accentuate the segments more and give the fly some flash in place of the gold rib, which always get bitten loose. DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] HAPPY NEW YEAR
Let us hope the New Year will be better for all of us. It has been a good year and a not so good year for some of us bet we can all hope for a better one. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] BETTER NEW YEAR?
It was a bad one fore me, four light strokes, two surgeries and weeks of rehab and therapy. Only four times on the water. Missed tying at several shows. It has to be a better one this year. Tony --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] BETTER NEW YEAR? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 10:38 AM Yes, good riddance to 2009. My income was 1/6th of what it was in 2008. 2010 did not start off well for me, though, as my friend Mark passed away Thursday morning. He was recovering (but still kept under by sedation) when his brain started to swell and there was nothing they could do other than leave him as a vegatable. His loss will create many challenges for me, besides losing an associate and friend. I never got a chance to deliver his DVD to him, so I'll set it aside and retire the serial number in his name. So, I'm looking forward to the fly shows in Denver next weekend- the Furimski Show and the ISE. We'll find out what the financial trend is for the start of 2010, as the industry will take it's own temperature. Is anyone on the list in the Denver area planning to make these shows? DonO - Original Message - From: scott bearden To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com ; rodmak...@goldrush.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] HAPPY NEW YEAR 2009 Good riddance. We could all use a fresh start. Here is hoping the very best for everyone! Scott Bearden On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Let us hope the New Year will be better for all of us. It has been a good year and a not so good year for some of us bet we can all hope for a better one. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Article: Should You Learn How To Tie Flies For Fly Fishing?
Just checked it out I have to agree Tony --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Pacres pac...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pacres pac...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Article: Should You Learn How To Tie Flies For Fly Fishing? To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 9:52 AM This is spam. On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Ricky Burns ryb7...@gmail.com wrote: Found this nice article I would like to share . . . === Learn More About Tying Flies At: http://www.howtotieflies.info My name is Emmett Gregg, and I am a professional fly fishing instructor, and author of The Complete Illustrated Guide: How To Tie Flies. I come from a family of fly fishermen(my grandfather, my father etc.), and my grandfather was a master of the art of tying flies. Naturally, his secret techniques on how to tie flies were passed down to my father, and then to me. His secrets were never revealed until now, since I have published The Complete Illustrated Guide: How To Tie Flies. Here are some things to consider about tying your own flies for fly fishing. Concerning fly fishing, it is naturally all about the flies, and tying flies can be a tricky, tedious thing to do if you choose to try it. In regards to tying, it is important that you have a still hand and a fairly good idea what the trout will be attracted to, so they will bite more often. Naturally, you will need to research these things and trial and error would also have to be used. However, if you know what the main diet of a trout, then you will have a great idea of what you will need when figuring out how to tie flies to catch a fair amount of trout. Learning how to tie flies is generally thought of as the definitive test when it comes to fly fishing. Sure, you could go out and buy a good spinner or spoon to add to your collection. This would of course cost a bit of money. Then again, you could also take the extra step and tie your own flies. Contrary to what you may think, it does not take that long to learn how to tie flies and attract trout effectively. The important and obvious thing to remember is, if the fly does not look right, chances are the trout will not bite. This is why knowing how to tie flies is pertinent – the process cannot be rushed and no corners can be cut. No one has claimed that tying flies is the easiest thing in the world. But, it is not as hard as most people claim it to be. A lot of people are even scared to begin learning how to tie flies, because some people they know may take hours to complete one fly. This turns a lot of people off, so they simply rely on the pros to sell their flies to them, or go to their local sporting goods store and take their chances on the quality of flies sold there. The expenses incurred here – whether you purchase from a pro or a sporting goods shop – are actually unnecessary. Once you learn how to tie flies easily, quickly, and effectively, you will undoubtedly save a lot of money. Your only upfront expense will be in purchasing the necessary tooling for tying flies. Once you get the hang of it, which will not take long, you will then have the ability to tie a lot of flies in a relatively short period of time, and save a whole lot of money in the process. Sure, if you have no guidance or don't have someone teaching you how to tie flies, then the task will be tedious and frustrating. However, if this is something you truly would like to do, then with the proper guidance and practice, you could master the art of how to tie flies faster than you may think it is possible. My name is Emmett Gregg, and I am a professional fly fishing instructor, and author of The Complete Illustrated Guide: How To Tie Flies. I come from a family of fly fishermen(my grandfather, my father etc.), and my grandfather was a master of the art of tying flies. Naturally, his secret techniques on how to tie flies were passed down to my father, and then to me. His secrets were never revealed until now, since I have published The Complete Illustrated Guide: How To Tie Flies. Here are some things to consider about tying your own flies for fly fishing. Learn More About Tying Flies At: http://www.howtotieflies.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- http://flytyer.wordpress.com - The Daily Fly Tyer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en
Re: [VFB] Join Please
We have you in Arkansas Tony --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: [VFB] Join Please To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 8:37 AM I'm attempting a email address change PeggyB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I guess I have about 600 books on Fly Fishing and Fly Tying. I have a good number inscribed to me. I have been told that that lowers the value. In some cases I have photos of the author signing the book. I have put these photos in the book. I am not worried about what the books are worth at this time but there might be a time when I will need to let them go. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net wrote: From: the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 12:19 AM There will be a string of numbers in sequence near the bottom of the page. so if it were the number two it indicates a second printing. first printings will have the number one in the string of numbers. keep your books out of direct sun light, room temp around 72 degrees and humidity in the low 50s. put them up right and never pack them in tight as this will cause the boards (covers) to warp. If the book hangs over the edge of the shelf lay it flat so there is no over hang. Martink's books are very collectable just lay them flat. An inscribed book seems to have more value because the person was present when it was signed or was a person known to the author and he/she took more time to personalize the book. many times a signed book can be bought from a book dealer. Something I have seen several times, and have one by Steve Raymond is a signed paste in card with the authors signature on it. For me to paste into his book! To me that is the height of laziness. Many of my books are inscribed to Diane. I had them done that way as I expected her to out live me. She passed away five years ago from ovarian cancer. The only time the to will really increase the price is when the book is inscribed to someone more or less famous. Chuck is right about the dust jackets. Some collectors go to the extreme of storing them separate and flattened. Any sunlight will cause fading over time even indirect light, so pick your site for your bookcases with care. Gary S. From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Gary, I recently picked up a copy of John Gierach's Signs of Life (signed), and a few other hard to find books. From what I can tell, this is a first edition (not sure how to find out about first printing). Anyhow just wondering for book, how do you store them if they are worth a few bucks? What about self published books like Mike Martinek's 2 volumes of streamer patterns or some of the local fishing clubs booklets etc? I really just buy what I like, but always try to find signed copies. I'm also curious to know why a copy that is inscribed worth more than one just simply signed. Curious because I though it may have been the opposite and also that most of my signed book are inscribed, but mostly to other people. Darren On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: Gary: You got that right about Amazon seller (some of them) and grading books. I have sold books for 25 years from flea markets, yard sales, to Amazon, to Abe books, to half.com. And I always try to list mine one condition BELOW what it actually is, so that the customer will probably be happy.On the other hand, I have ordered books that sellers have graded as Very good condition and I get the book, and I would not even list is as Acceptable. Pages torn, loose, or missing, writing in the book. Binding falling apart. Water stains (that REALLY makes me mad when ppl omit those). And, like you said, the tobacco smoke.. Most all my customers ask me about that. The closest I've ever come to getting rid of it is to seal the book in a gallon zip lock bag and put in a cpl scented dryer sheets. and leave them in the bag a few days. But I also put paper towels between the book's covers and the dryer sheets so any moisture from the sheets don't stain the cover or dust jacket. Oh, that's another one. ppl not listing missing dust jackets. Chuck - Original Message - From: the smith's To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mel Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe the condition of their book. One of the first questions to ask the seller is if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible to remove the smell of tobacco smoke or mildew
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Peggy, is this the book by Mike Valla. Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done. Tony The Catskill Fly book is great. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Mart, I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'. I have not heard of that name. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 10:21 AM That is a great book indeed. A must-have if there ever was one. I got it for Christmas, together with Takahasi's Modern Midges Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Peggy, is this the book by Mike Valla. Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done. Tony The Catskill Fly book is great. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Thanks Pete, Looks like a book I have to have. I think I bought a book from Anglers Roost this past summer. It was Dry Flies by, I can't spell his name., It was also Japanese. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Peter Gramp pete.gr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Peter Gramp pete.gr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 11:26 AM On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Mart, I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'. I have not heard of that name. Tony I'm not Mart, but I'll chip in my 2 cents: It is called Modern Midges: Tying Fishing the World's Most Effective Patterns, by Rick Takahashi and Jerry Hubka. (the Takahashi was missing an H at the end previously, in case you googled it) My 2 cents are that it is a great book for any and all things midge (eh, chironomids - midge, larvae, AND adult) I think the pattern count that was promoted was 1013 patterns? something unworldly like that - but it isn't just a tying pattern book. Case in point, the last 40-something pages are a sort of tips and tricks from pros, panel discussion of sorts - quite worth it for that alone. There are some 'sample pages' sites out there - assuming OK to post a link here (not just 'ok by the list rules' but 'ok by the copyright rulings and such'):http://www.flytyingclips.com/takahashi/katonk.html Amazon (no affiliation obviously) has it here:http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Midges-Fishing-Effective-Patterns/dp/1934753009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1250039910sr=1-1#reader Absolutely NO affiliation, but I think Angler's Roost has some agreement or something, so they can get you a signed copy. (Rick is the guy in the photo at the link below) http://www.anglers-roost.com/Contact/index.htm Just my opinions, and just trying to help you out.Tight wraps, -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
We have about 5 of snow. It this area, that is a lot. For those that have been to my house, you know about the mile hill. We are snowed in. For months the river has been high with the dam releasing a lot of water. The coldest days that we have had, they have shut down in the mornings adding insult to injuries. Looking at low water when the temps are in the teens is not too inviting, at least not at my age.. Arkansas Tony --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin' To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com, fly fishing for panfish flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 2:03 AM Well folks: I have wanted to go fishing ever since my last trip out LOL.. It's 18 degrees here right now, with a wind-chill in the single digits. So, I'm going fishing in my boat, in my shorts, in a tee shirt, and in flip flops...Last time I did this, I caught a box of frozen fish sticks... Talk later LOL, Chuck __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your Yahoo! Groups resource for green living Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I will have to get the books out and make that inscription. LOL Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a notation about a friend or as a fly tyer. Does that make me famous, I guess not. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:27 PM Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing BooksGary: What I was saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case. Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book signed withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open market. Chuck Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more. :-) a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
DAA I AM? Got to be kidding. LOL Tony --- On Mon, 1/4/10, the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net wrote: From: the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:06 PM Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I think you are qualified to that title. Gary S. - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I will have to get the books out and make that inscription. LOL Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a notation about a friend or as a fly tyer. Does that make me famous, I guess not. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:27 PM #yiv879635906 #yiv1167957848 BLOCKQUOTE { PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} #yiv879635906 #yiv1167957848 DL { PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} #yiv879635906 #yiv1167957848 UL { PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} #yiv879635906 #yiv1167957848 OL { PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} #yiv879635906 #yiv1167957848 LI { PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} Gary: What I was saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case. Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book signed withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open market. Chuck Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more. :-) a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Fly Fishing Books Getting off topic
If you say so, but you need to convince my wife. Tony --- On Mon, 1/4/10, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote: From: J Balmer jbal...@a5.com Subject: RE: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 2:04 PM Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Be thankful. You’re famous, while I’m merely infamousJ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:53 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books DAA I AM? Got to be kidding. LOL Tony --- On Mon, 1/4/10, the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net wrote: From: the smith's aflyt...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 12:06 PM I think you are qualified to that title. Gary S. - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books I will have to get the books out and make that inscription. LOL Most of the books I have inscribed to me have a notation about a friend or as a fly tyer. Does that make me famous, I guess not. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Allan Fish afi...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 7:27 PM Gary: What I was saying is that if I wanted to sell you a book by Author X.. It would be worth more to you (and the average buying) it it were just signed by Author X than if it were signed To Chuck, Good Luck, Author X right?? Cause you don't want MY name in it, you only want the authors name in it. That's what I was saying in Tony's case. Unless the buyer is a fan of both Tony and the author, a book signed withOUT a personalized inscription is worth more money on the open market. Chuck Well, maybe, but if it were signed To my good friend Tony Spezio, it would be worth MUCH more. :-) a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End
Re: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin'
Peggy, You have been here and you know how far south we are. Tomorrow through Saturday, the wind chill will be in the Minus numbers Friday morning is could be minus 6, that is not the wind chill.. More snow has already started, we expect another 4 inches. The cold is breaking all records in this area. to make this fishing related, Tied a few Chili Peppers yesterday. Tony. --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin' To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 8:40 PM Chuck aren't you in Louisiana or somewhere warm? I mean I expect to be cold, and as I don't ice fish, have to work and tye flies all winter! Peggy Chuck Alexander wrote: I'll tell ya how unseasonably cold it's been here lately. Some of the shallower lakes and ponds are freezing over, Chuck - Original Message - *From:* Bob Scarbrough mailto:a69ju...@hotmail.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:43 AM *Subject:* RE: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin' -9 with -25 wind chill snows supposed to come tomorrow another 4-5 inches, YAY! :) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:38:59 + From: haerb...@comcast.net mailto:haerb...@comcast.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin' Sounds like we are having a heat wave here (MI) 11* and light snow BobH - Original Message - From: J Balmer jbal...@a5.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2010 9:22:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin' It was -3 when I started the Jeep this AM. That’s why God invented ice hutsJ *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Scarbrough *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2010 6:33 AM *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin' Here in Iowa its been bitter cold below zero at night and not much warmer during the day. And now supposed to get more snow. Im ready to move, but wait, no where to go, its stupid cold all over! :) From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin' Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:09:09 -0600 It's supposed to reach here by Thursday and snow on into Friday with a high Friday of 15 and a low Thursday night/Fri. morning of 8. And up here on the mt. you can knock off a few degrees off those numbers. To cold for a Southern boy LOL Chuck - Original Message - *From:* Anthony Spezio mailto:bambot...@yahoo.com *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com mailto:flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, January 04, 2010 7:24 AM *Subject:* [VFB] Re: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin' We have about 5 of snow. It this area, that is a lot. For those that have been to my house, you know about the mile hill. We are snowed in. For months the river has been high with the dam releasing a lot of water. The coldest days that we have had, they have shut down in the mornings adding insult to injuries. Looking at low water when the temps are in the teens is not too inviting, at least not at my age.. Arkansas Tony --- On *Mon, 1/4/10, Chuck Alexander /chuckalexan...@hughes.net/* wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Gone Fishin' To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com, fly fishing for panfish flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 2:03 AM Well folks: I have wanted to go fishing ever since my last trip out LOL.. It's 18 degrees here right now, with a wind-chill in the single digits. So, I'm going fishing in my boat, in my shorts, in a tee shirt, and in flip flops...Last time I did this, I caught a box of frozen fish sticks... Talk later LOL, Chuck __._,_.___ Reply to *sender* http://mc/compose?to=chuckalexan
[VFB] Re: Tiny Fly Question
Chuck, This may rattle some but here is what I do with plastic beads of the right size that have no recess for the bend clearance. I normally have to do this for the plastic beads on the WRD. The plastic bead will not go around the bend, If I force it it will split. If I use a bigger bead it will block the eye. First I flatten the barb then straighten the bend a bit, slide the bead around the larger radius then bend the hook back to it's original shape. I make it a point not to over bend the hook. It only takes just of bit of straightening to get the bead to go around the bend. This is an extra step but it works for me. Arkansas Tony --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: [flyfishingandflytyingforpanfish] Tiny Fly Question To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com, fly fishing for panfish flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 10:43 PM OK all you tiny fly tying experts LOL.. I am stumped with a problem.. I took the advice of tying a bigger fly, then working my way down in hook sizes till I get to where I want. Problem is, I'm tying (or TRYING) my Pink Panfish Producer, and I'm down to a size 20. Problem is, the gold bead for the head. The ones I have are either too small to go around the sharp bend in the hook, or they are too big, and they either fall right off the eye end of the fly, or get stuck, with the eye buried halfway inside the bead. I have tried the beads front wards, backwards and sideways. Is there a secret to this??? Should I just make the gold=bead head out of gold tying thread, or tiny tinsel?? Or do you just not tie flies this small with a bead head on them?? Thanks for ANY help, Chuck __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your Yahoo! Groups resource for green living Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Mart, I ordered the Midge book, I have Mike's book. If you ever get to come back out here, I will have you sign the Midge book where your flies are. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 12:22 PM Yes, Sorry for the typo. It is Rick Takahashi. He contacted me some 2 years ago and asked me to contribute some midge patterns for a book he was doing. So I tied and sent him some patterns, and sortof forgot about the whole thing. Recently he emailed me and told me that the book was ready, so I ordered it, along with Valla's Catskill book. I was *very* pleasantly surprised when I saw both books. The Midge book is an encyclopedia of midge biology, midge tying and fishing, chapters on materials nicely divided into patterns for the various stages. And the Valla Catskill book was just as nice and informative, with lots of photos of the giants of the Catskill flies, their patterns, and the historic waters. Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Mart, I have not heard of the Midge book. Who is the author, would it be Takahasi'. I have not heard of that name. Tony --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 10:21 AM That is a great book indeed. A must-have if there ever was one. I got it for Christmas, together with Takahasi's Modern Midges Mart - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books Peggy, is this the book by Mike Valla. Mike and I are friends and the book is a real good book. Very well done. Tony The Catskill Fly book is great. Peggy B mel hocken wrote: */Gary/* */Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd 3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium prices for a book which someone says is a first edition./* */I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?/* */Regards/* */Mel/* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options
Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question now Sowbug
We will think about you, Tony --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 12:00 AM Tony, I won't be coming this year. I wish I could but work is pretty heavy. I will envy all who make it. Mike On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: I agree Tony on the Eagle Claws and Mustads.. I used to do a lot of crappie fishing with live minnows and I'd use those two brands of hooks. And I'd get hung on sunken trees etc, pull till the hook straightened out, reshape it, fish again and again and again.. Other brands I don't know about, Chuck - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question Mike, I know this will worry some tyers and I am sure some hooks will be too brittle like the old VMC hooks. I have had no problems with the Eagle Claw hooks I use and most of the Mustads.. On some of the old Mustads, most that broke was when I pinched down the barb so I quit using them.Like I said, it works for me. I have not tried it with the real small hooks, sz 14 is the smallest I have done it with. Are you going to make the Sowbug this year. Hope so. Tony --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 1:48 PM One of the things that Tony said was what I would say - pinch the barb down. Next get the right size bead for the hook. Glass is not as flexible but I have found that they are not consistent with the sizes. You can try several and some will work and some won't. Tony's idea of bending the hook is interesting but I would worry about that causing metal fatigue. Someone smarter might be able to answer that. Mike On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: OK all you tiny fly tying experts LOL.. I am stumped with a problem.. I took the advice of tying a bigger fly, then working my way down in hook sizes till I get to where I want. Problem is, I'm tying (or TRYING) my Pink Panfish Producer, and I'm down to a size 20. Problem is, the gold bead for the head. The ones I have are either too small to go around the sharp bend in the hook, or they are too big, and they either fall right off the eye end of the fly, or get stuck, with the eye buried halfway inside the bead. I have tried the beads front wards, backwards and sideways. Is there a secret to this??? Should I just make the gold=bead head out of gold tying thread, or tiny tinsel?? Or do you just not tie flies this small with a bead head on them?? Thanks for ANY help, Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.129/2606 - Release Date: 01/07/10 13:35:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email
Re: [VFB] VFB Site
If that works out, it would be good for all of us. Tony --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Pacres pac...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pacres pac...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Site To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 11:30 AM If Byard is willing, I have lots of webspace I could host the archive on. There have been a couple sites that have disappeared over the past year or so that were a great source of information. Cheers Darren On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Rene Zillmann rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: It would be really a shame, if we loose Byard and his site. Is there any way to bring it up again? Maybe we find someone who is willing to host the site. Rene Neville Gosling wrote: Hi Don: Do you know if all the fly tying recipies were saved? What about the swap images? It seems a real shame if all this information is lost or unaccessible. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada He wan not involved with the VFB site for some time, so he just broke the link. He still has Linesend up for suscribers, though I don't know if he's still responding to orders. D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- http://flytyer.wordpress.com - The Daily Fly Tyer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question- beads and barbs
I could of used a set of them today. Tony --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Tiny Fly Question- beads and barbs To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 8:37 PM Joyce good idea, I got a set of tools for working with beads for Christmas along with my invisible Nook for ebooks :) The reamer, as it's called really does pretty good on Walmart brand glass beads, Peggy Joyce Westphal wrote: You can also find pointed type files in the beadworking area of your craft store, such as JoAnn's or Michaels, or the like. They go inside the hole and can be used to file it down. They even help on glass beads. I find most of my tiny beads at the knitting shop. they have really small ones that are used in needlework. Check out that type of store as well. Joyce On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com mailto:f...@tribcsp.com wrote: A lot of the new hooks for flyfishing are micro-barb, so they don't pose much of a problem. I rarely squash a barb flat, unless the hook is brittle and the barb doesn't bend. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Polar Bear
My wife's aunt had a Polar Bear Throw cover when I first met my wife, don't know what happened to that either. Tony --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: From: Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Polar Bear To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 8:08 PM On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote: Harmen: You neglected to divulge where your buy of the day was found. Thank you, Alan Di Somma The Dollar Store?? Really curious what this set you back! Got a bargain I hope. Looking around the Web, it is possible to buy full PB skins for non-US importation, but they cost $7,000 - $8,000! AeEEE-i! I kick myself that my mother once had one of these skins inherited from a relative. No more, though. For those unfamiliar, it is illegal to have PB in the US imported after 1972. Fly tyers get the stuff from Canada, usually, but strictly hush-hush. Yup, what a find, Harmen! Wes WadaBend, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Sowbug
I am tying in the mornings and am staying at my house 1/2 mile from where you are staying. Tony --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net wrote: From: Peggy Brenner peggy.bren...@comcast.net Subject: [VFB] Sowbug To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 10:49 AM I have my tying times, all in the morning. Who is coming down? And where is everyone staying? Peggy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Sow Bug - JIMMY D
Sorry to hear that, I thought you would make it this year. Tony --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] Sow Bug - JIMMY D To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 5:32 PM I just notified Richard Thomas, Sow Bug Chairman, that I won't be able to attend the 2010 Sow Bug. I hadn't sent my invitation back anyway, so I'm sure it came as no shock to him. This is the third straight year that things have come up that prevent me from attending. I'm really sorry, because I was looking forward to renewing old friendships and the BS sessions in the evenings. Have fun, Take Care and Tie A Fly For me. JIMMY D º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Alexandra Variants
Jeff Hines has ties a White River Version of the Alexandra, If I can find the fly, I will take a photo and post it. He will probably be tying it at the Sowbug Tony --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Rene rene.zillm...@t-online.de wrote: From: Rene rene.zillm...@t-online.de Subject: [VFB] Alexandra Variants To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 2:25 PM Gang, played around with feather, furs and google groups. I got some ideas from recent group activities, we discussed tube flies, had members posting their flies, deco-flies and I participated in a streamer swap, where I contributed an Alexandra. Finally I did put together a side in our group, where the different variants of an Alexandra are shown. Here is the link: http://groups.google.de/group/vfb-mail/web/alexandra-variants I learned during my research on this topic, that the Alexandra was originally tied with a red tag instead of a red tail. Enjoy Rene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] book comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Don, I accuse Dave of having stock in Zap A Gap. Got a couple of sample bottles from him at the Smallmouth show in Oklahoma last May. I have been told he will be at the Sowbug in March. Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] book comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:43 AM Joyce, that info helps out a lot. 1. I saw the photos of what he was doing and you seem right on. Just extended furled fiber-tails with lots of different flies applied. Once anyone gets the rope dub down pat, the furling is another open door to some cool applications, not just another tail on the fly. I wish I could tell you all of the applications, but I'd be telling y'all what's on DVD #2. ;o) What I can say is that anything that will rope-dub will also furl (within useable limits), with thread core, mono core, wire core, or bite tippet core. Also, all of your dubbing materials, synthetics, furs, fibers, peacock, etc., become materials for furls. One hint (which I've attached photos on)- chopped up dubbing, like that green lamb's wool, will rope and furl and make great fuzzy, soft, flexible caterpillars, as thick as you want them and very durable (and tapered if you want). If you rope-dub on light wire, you can shape the 'pillar into a curl or bend that's not on the hook itself, and it will still be very flexible to the fish for feel, and still dense and 'fleshy'. 2. Looks like DVD#2 will turn out almost like DVD#1- so many techniques, not enough space/time to do patterns and recipes. I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that were in much longer format that the one I did. I'm checking into it to make sure the quality is the same. Do you guys think a 2, 3, 4 hour DVD#2 (for the same price) would be agood idea, sine it can be indexed like #1? Then I could do all of the techhniques and show lots of rope-dub finishing techniques to graduate into the fly bodies. Securing the rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for one guy at the show, so I showed him about 4 ways to secure the fly to a slick hook (shiny plated saltwater hooks are very slick). Which brings up item #3: 3. Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish. 4. I've used Super-glue gel for my big deceiver flies to attach the eyes, but they seemed to have a smell long after the glue dried. So I seal all the heads and eyes with vinyl cement, which makes them more durable and seals in the SG smell. The vinyl cement has no detectable smell after two weeks. My lure-fishing experience tell me to give them a shot of WD-40 before fishing, to hide the human scents, but not to 'flavor' the fly (illegal in many areas). It works with Mackinaw trolling flies, so it should work with trout through marlin flies also. Oil-related smells permeate the water- so fish are used to smelling them. Problem is, some fly materials react to the oil, and then degrade. Don't know which ones they are until it's too late. Add that to materials reacting to the sun and salt, and many materials just don't hold up in the real world- especially holographic streamer fibers. DonO - Original Message - From: Joyce Westphal To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book I have it and it is OK, not spectacular and I would not buy it again. You can get the same information on the internet free of charge. Of course, he only talks about furled flies and after you learn the technique, all the flies look the same, just different colors of furled thread tails. Don't know if this helps. Joyce On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, The Smiths aflyt...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone have any knowledge of a Paper back byKen Hanley titled Tying Furled Flies? Gary S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [VFB] book comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40
Yes it is an LOL I keep teasing Dave about it, have been for years. Sorry if it came through any other way. It was meant as a joke. Dave is a good friend to all of us. Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] book comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:23 AM Tony, Is that an 'LOL'? If that is so, is it a 'conflict of interest' to be hawking/selling it as a stockholder? How does it work? If I bought stock in Whiting, Flex-O, Mc Flyfoam, etc., can I still hawk their products? DonO - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] book comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 Don, I accuse Dave of having stock in Zap A Gap. Got a couple of sample bottles from him at the Smallmouth show in Oklahoma last May. I have been told he will be at the Sowbug in March. Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] book comments, DVDs, Zap-a-gap, WD-40 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 10:43 AM Joyce, that info helps out a lot. 1. I saw the photos of what he was doing and you seem right on. Just extended furled fiber-tails with lots of different flies applied. Once anyone gets the rope dub down pat, the furling is another open door to some cool applications, not just another tail on the fly. I wish I could tell you all of the applications, but I'd be telling y'all what's on DVD #2. ;o) What I can say is that anything that will rope-dub will also furl (within useable limits), with thread core, mono core, wire core, or bite tippet core. Also, all of your dubbing materials, synthetics, furs, fibers, peacock, etc., become materials for furls. One hint (which I've attached photos on)- chopped up dubbing, like that green lamb's wool, will rope and furl and make great fuzzy, soft, flexible caterpillars, as thick as you want them and very durable (and tapered if you want). If you rope-dub on light wire, you can shape the 'pillar into a curl or bend that's not on the hook itself, and it will still be very flexible to the fish for feel, and still dense and 'fleshy'. 2. Looks like DVD#2 will turn out almost like DVD#1- so many techniques, not enough space/time to do patterns and recipes. I'm saw that some DVD's for sale that were in much longer format that the one I did. I'm checking into it to make sure the quality is the same. Do you guys think a 2, 3, 4 hour DVD#2 (for the same price) would be agood idea, sine it can be indexed like #1? Then I could do all of the techhniques and show lots of rope-dub finishing techniques to graduate into the fly bodies. Securing the rope-bodies to the hook was a problem for one guy at the show, so I showed him about 4 ways to secure the fly to a slick hook (shiny plated saltwater hooks are very slick). Which brings up item #3: 3. Dave Whitlock has a new DVD out about using Zap-a-gap on flies. He gave me one, but I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. He got with the Z-A-G company and made up little applicator bottles specially designed for fly-tiers. I have about 4 of them so far, and I'm thinking uf using it for anchoring flies that tend to slip backwards on the new very slick hooks. Don't have much problems with the old bronzed Mustads- rougher finish. 4. I've used Super-glue gel for my big deceiver flies to attach the eyes, but they seemed to have a smell long after the glue dried. So I seal all the heads and eyes with vinyl cement, which makes them more durable and seals in the SG smell. The vinyl cement has no detectable smell after two weeks. My lure-fishing experience tell me to give them a shot of WD-40 before fishing, to hide the human scents, but not to 'flavor' the fly (illegal in many areas). It works with Mackinaw trolling flies, so it should work with trout through marlin flies also. Oil-related smells permeate the water- so fish are used to smelling them
[VFB] Black Hackle
I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad de...@conranch.com and had him send me a saddle. I got it the other day and I am real pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied with the feathers. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
That would be BRD would it not. LOL Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote: From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:55 PM How about making a few Black WRD?? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 PM Subject: [VFB] Black Hackle I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad de...@conranch.com and had him send me a saddle. I got it the other day and I am real pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied with the feathers. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.149/2630 - Release Date: 01/18/10 07:35:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a true black or is my memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe I should forget the whole thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. LOL Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote: From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM Funny you are in need of the black hackle. I just bought a bottle of black hair dye and am going to dye a white on black. I want to use it for bass flies. I have lots of grackles around here and I am half tempted to harvest a few with my BB gun. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 PM Subject: [VFB] Black Hackle I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad de...@conranch.com and had him send me a saddle. I got it the other day and I am real pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied with the feathers. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.149/2630 - Release Date: 01/18/10 07:35:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Black Hackle
Actually Denny sent me two black saddles, one is a true black and the other is more of a Black Dunn with gold flecks in it in a number of the feathers. A bonus,both saddles have a load of soft hackle body feathers . Tony --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:09 AM When you look at Denny's natural black feathers, you will note that there are bits of green and red and even purples apparent as you look at them in the sunshine. IN nature, colors are never true according to AK Best. I prefer natural black feathers, but, when I dye them myself, I use the hair dye but I also put a bit of green or red in the bath. You can start by first dying them a light green or you can mix the colors. Sometimes you want a bit of a purple black hue (such as starling feathers have naturally) and even overdying white feather that you've done purple and then black, while OK, for me don't produce the wonderful hue that starlings have. I'd be interested in the experience of others. Joyce On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote: The one person that would give us the right answer is Joyce. Any ideas Joyce? Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle Alan, I think you would have to add a bit of Red to get a true black or is my memory slipping. Maybe it is a bit of Blue or maybe I should forget the whole thing and just get Black. Now I am confused. LOL Tony --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net wrote: From: Alan Di Somma phxflyt...@cox.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Black Hackle To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:54 PM Funny you are in need of the black hackle. I just bought a bottle of black hair dye and am going to dye a white on black. I want to use it for bass flies. I have lots of grackles around here and I am half tempted to harvest a few with my BB gun. Thank you, Alan Di Somma Why is it that at class reunions you feel younger than everyone else looks? http://www.azflyfishing.net/ - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:22 PM Subject: [VFB] Black Hackle I was in need of some Black Saddle hackle and the Black Chinese Saddle I had was not the best. Contacted Denny Conrad de...@conranch.com and had him send me a saddle. I got it the other day and I am real pleased with a natural Black saddle. Really nice long feathers. No financial interest, just satisfied with the feathers. Arkansas Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.149/2630 - Release Date: 01/18/10 07:35:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail
Re: [VFB] Outdoor Retailers Expo, SLC
Tom, It was the Fly Fishing Retailers Show I got to meet you, Larry Johnson, Jerry, Don, Mike, Joyce, and a few others from the list. I really enjoyed the three years I attended. Tony --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Tom Davenport t...@comcast.net wrote: From: Tom Davenport t...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Outdoor Retailers Expo, SLC To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:29 PM Oops! Wrong show! This is the outdoor retailers Winter show, dealing with winter outdoor products. No fishermen around. Perhaps Tony can give me the correct name for the show he used to tie at. It seemed to me that it was primarily fishing related. Tom On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Tom Davenport wrote: The Outdoor Retailers Expo has returned to Salt Lake City. The last time it was here, Tony was tying for Gudebrod, and I was able to visit him and crash the show (which isn't open to the public). Visiting Tony was the prime objective, but it was also fun to hobnob with the luminaries of the sport who usually come to this expo. Also, I made a point of going in on Saturday when the vendors would sell the stuff they brought dirt cheap (to avoid having to pack it up and haul it home). Tony, I suspect you aren't making it to this show, but are there any other list members who are? Anybody out here in SLC? Tom Davenport -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] Something different , not quite off topic
The list seems to be getting slower and slower. I am as guilty as anyone else by not posting. I have reasons I have not posted and it has nothing to do with the VFB list or anyone on it. I think Jimmy did this a while back but things change and an update might be in order. I am sure we have a number of lurkers out there that we don't know about. How about we jump in and tell about ourselves relating to tying and fishing. Also I often wonder what most of us do or what we did for a living. Might be interesting to know,. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Something different , not quite off topic
Bill had tied down here with us. I lost contact with him when I had a crash and lost all addresses. If you have contact with him, pass on my new E address. Tony --- On Sun, 1/24/10, J Balmer jbal...@a5.com wrote: From: J Balmer jbal...@a5.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , not quite off topic To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 3:49 PM For almost a living, I do IT consulting recently started a video production / post-production business. Primarily live events documentaries. Been a performing musician on off for a long time. Currently adding program underwriting for the local PBS station hopefully some programming related to music the outdoors. As to fly tying fishing, fished most of my life, but not much fly fishing until about 7 years ago. Now I’m almost exclusively fly fishing for all species. Took a tying class from a funny guy named Bill Sherer about 5 or 6 years ago in Boulder Junction, WI. Great bar just down the street… From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:27 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Something different , not quite off topic The list seems to be getting slower and slower. I am as guilty as anyone else by not posting. I have reasons I have not posted and it has nothing to do with the VFB list or anyone on it. I think Jimmy did this a while back but things change and an update might be in order. I am sure we have a number of lurkers out there that we don't know about. How about we jump in and tell about ourselves relating to tying and fishing. Also I often wonder what most of us do or what we did for a living. Might be interesting to know,. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Shipping flies
Scott, I use the plastic medicine prescription containers. In the large ones I can hook the flies to one of my cards, roll it a bit and slide it in the container. Tony --- On Mon, 1/25/10, scott bearden scott.bear...@gmail.com wrote: From: scott bearden scott.bear...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Shipping flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 11:13 PM I have never mailed flies out before and I am about to send out a few to a family member in Oklahoma who wants to make a shadow box of some of my flies. It occurred to me that I needed to protect them in transit and so I found an old cheap fly box that I can live without. If this gets to be a habit I don't want to buy cheap fly boxes. For those of you that mail out dry flies routinely, what do you use that is cheap and disposable to protect them in transit? Thanks, Scott Bearden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
Jim, I guess I go along with you on this. Just trying to get some action on the list. I was hoping more would reply with more than a line or two. I will post my background later today. Tony --- On Mon, 1/25/10, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 12:47 PM Tony, I would say that your post below is definitely ON TOPIC. The better we know each other, the better we can appreciate our fellow VFB'ers. So, here's some stuff about me: Been fishing 60 + years, Fly fishing just about the same. Started tying flies at age 12, with a Herter Beginners Kit Joined the VFB in its infancy. Been doing the daily quote on the VFB for about 9 years Started the Joke For The Day about 8 years ago, because the VFB was getting cluttered with jokes and Byard asked me if I'd do it. There's now around 70 VFB members who get the daily JFTD. Just finished meistering my 17 swap today. Some goofy, but all fun. March Madness I, March Madness II, Colors I, Colors II, Retiree, Ham Radio, Chili Pepper, Eagle Scout, Blues I, Blues II, Courage, Renegade, Steelhead, Murf Memorial, Old Fart and lastly - Fly Tying Fanatic Swap. I'm a retired Scout Executive with the Boy Scouts of America - 1964-2000 Wrote an outdoor humor book in 2004 - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club Editor of North Fishing Zone - Texas Fish Game magazine, 2007 - 2009 Have written numerous fishing and hunting articles for outdoor magazines I've done my fishing in Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, including the Gulf, Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon 5 grown children, 8 grandchildren Two Cats - Peaches Gray. Raised them from bottle - orphans. I'm their mother and father. They act like dogs and come when I whistle or call their name. They jump up on me just like my dogs did. Gray can purr - I taught him, but Peaches never has learned. I stay busy monitoring the VFB, FFW and doing the Daily Quotes and Jokes, plus a bunch of Honey Do work that never seems to end. JIMMY D Anthony Spezio wrote: The list seems to be getting slower and slower. I am as guilty as anyone else by not posting. I have reasons I have not posted and it has nothing to do with the VFB list or anyone on it. I think Jimmy did this a while back but things change and an update might be in order. I am sure we have a number of lurkers out there that we don't know about. How about we jump in and tell about ourselves relating to tying and fishing. Also I often wonder what most of us do or what we did for a living. Might be interesting to know,. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
You made it to Arkansas Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:46 AM Im not sure Im even getting through. Robert Scarbrough From: rustyh...@centurytel.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:01:59 -0800 I grew up in MN and have always fished. Started out with a Zebco 202 reel and rod with a bobber and worm. Worked up to spinning and then was determined to learn flyfishing. After a steep learning curve, I started to get the hang of it. Took up flytying too. Learning on those small, brushy streams gave me a sidearm stroke that I still can't get rid of. Microsoft moved me out to the Seattle area where I got exposed to big rivers, big fish and the sheer joy of throwing a speyrod across the entire river. These days, I run a small fly company that features my flies and some of my friend's. I travel all over the world in search of all types of fish in all types of water -- but always with a flyrod. My girlfriend took up flyfishing, caught her first trout on a dry and uses nothing but a dryfly now. When home (in WA), I fish the steelhead streams around my house and the great trout fishing on the east side of the mountains. I have one son who is in college and is turning 20. He is a heck of a flyfisher. -- Jay Paulson www.amazingflies.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Not to be a Lurker
Bob, Nothing is boring when it comes to knowing people. Next time at Tanny, come down another hour and visit with me. I am in Arkansas on the White. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Subject: [VFB] Not to be a Lurker To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 10:16 AM I'm one you could call a lurker. Always read but seldom comment. Here goes: I live in Iowa work for a security firm, worked in the IT field for about 30 years. Have been fly fishing for around 12 years, have only fished Taneycomo or in NE Iowa for trout. Pretty much panfish and bass around Des Moines where Im living at the moment. Have a Mutt that loves to go fishing with me, no kids. Was married almost 30 years before losing her to Cancer, just now getting back into flytying because of that. Pretty boring and uneventful but that me. :) Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds
Bob, You just got a invitation. Contact me off list. If interested the Sowbug show is in Mtn. Home Arkansas on March 18, 19, 20. We will have over 100 tyers and a number of VFB members will be attending and tying. Rosanne and Terry Wilson the Bluegill experts and Fishy Fullman will be there as tyers too. The cost is 5.00 for the three days. I will be tying in the morning sessions. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:59 AM I have been trying not to be a Lurker but havent gotten any reply from anyone til now. And I would like to literally make it to Arkansas and do some fishing! :) Bob Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:50:45 -0800 From: bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com You made it to Arkansas Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:46 AM #yiv1288740276 .ExternalClass #ecxyiv168961581 .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} #yiv1288740276 .ExternalClass #ecxyiv168961581 {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Im not sure Im even getting through. Robert Scarbrough From: rustyh...@centurytel.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:01:59 -0800 I grew up in MN and have always fished. Started out with a Zebco 202 reel and rod with a bobber and worm. Worked up to spinning and then was determined to learn flyfishing. After a steep learning curve, I started to get the hang of it. Took up flytying too. Learning on those small, brushy streams gave me a sidearm stroke that I still can't get rid of. Microsoft moved me out to the Seattle area where I got exposed to big rivers, big fish and the sheer joy of throwing a speyrod across the entire river. These days, I run a small fly company that features my flies and some of my friend's. I travel all over the world in search of all types of fish in all types of water -- but always with a flyrod. My girlfriend took up flyfishing, caught her first trout on a dry and uses nothing but a dryfly now. When home (in WA), I fish the steelhead streams around my house and the great trout fishing on the east side of the mountains. I have one son who is in college and is turning 20. He is a heck of a flyfisher. -- Jay Paulson www.amazingflies.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds, now lurkers
Bob, Me again, We need the lurkers to post to let us know you are out there. If no one posts the list will die a slow death. I am on two other tying lists and there are only about one message about every three to four months. When someone posts something, the list awakens and there will be several posts for a few days then dies again. You lurkers out there, find somethoing to post and let us know you are there. Thanks, Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 6:18 AM I guess I can be classified as a Lurker, I like to read the posts but very rarely comment. I have been flyfishing about 15 years now, wont say Im good but catch some fish anyway. Fish mostly at Taneycomo for trout as in Iowa have to go up in the NE part to fish for trout . I flyfish for bass and panfish where I live (Des Moines, IA). Started tying a few years ago then quit when my wife died after 30 years, and am just now getting back into tying. Have served in the Military, worked in IT and am now in Security. No kids, just one dog who loves to go fishing with me. Pretty boring but thats me. :) Bob Scarbrough Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:45:58 -0800 From: bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Jim, I guess I go along with you on this. Just trying to get some action on the list. I was hoping more would reply with more than a line or two. I will post my background later today. Tony --- On Mon, 1/25/10, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 12:47 PM Tony, I would say that your post below is definitely ON TOPIC. The better we know each other, the better we can appreciate our fellow VFB'ers. So, here's some stuff about me: Been fishing 60 + years, Fly fishing just about the same. Started tying flies at age 12, with a Herter Beginners Kit Joined the VFB in its infancy. Been doing the daily quote on the VFB for about 9 years Started the Joke For The Day about 8 years ago, because the VFB was getting cluttered with jokes and Byard asked me if I'd do it. There's now around 70 VFB members who get the daily JFTD. Just finished meistering my 17 swap today. Some goofy, but all fun. March Madness I, March Madness II, Colors I, Colors II, Retiree, Ham Radio, Chili Pepper, Eagle Scout, Blues I, Blues II, Courage, Renegade, Steelhead, Murf Memorial, Old Fart and lastly - Fly Tying Fanatic Swap. I'm a retired Scout Executive with the Boy Scouts of America - 1964-2000 Wrote an outdoor humor book in 2004 - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club Editor of North Fishing Zone - Texas Fish Game magazine, 2007 - 2009 Have written numerous fishing and hunting articles for outdoor magazines I've done my fishing in Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, including the Gulf, Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Oregon 5 grown children, 8 grandchildren Two Cats - Peaches Gray. Raised them from bottle - orphans. I'm their mother and father. They act like dogs and come when I whistle or call their name. They jump up on me just like my dogs did. Gray can purr - I taught him, but Peaches never has learned. I stay busy monitoring the VFB, FFW and doing the Daily Quotes and Jokes, plus a bunch of Honey Do work that never seems to end. JIMMY D Anthony Spezio wrote: The list seems to be getting slower and slower. I am as guilty as anyone else by not posting. I have reasons I have not posted and it has nothing to do with the VFB list or anyone on it. I think Jimmy did this a while back but things change and an update might be in order. I am sure we have a number of lurkers out there that we don't know about. How about we jump in and tell about ourselves relating to tying and fishing. Also I often wonder what most of us do or what we did for a living. Might be interesting to know,. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, ARS WB5RHT,author Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Member, TOWA Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, VFB FFW Moderator, Scout Exec. BSA, Retired, http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º
[VFB] My Background, Long
In 1944 my first year in High School, in N.J., one of my classmate was a fly fisherman, we were 14 at that time. He showed me how to tie flies. Back then, there was no waxed thread, bobbins and a lot of the materials we have today. We picked up a lot of road kills. Some day I will post the story about the Skunk road kill. We moved to another location in town and the neighbor was also a fly fisherman and tied flies. He gave me two books, one was by Paul Young, I still have that book but the other was lost over the years. At that time the rods were bamboo, lines and tying thread was silk and leaders were gut. I made my first tying vise from a length of solid rod, cut the slit with a hack saw and used a bolt and wing nut to close the jaws. I bought my first fly rod for 25 cents. It was bamboo and in bad shape so I thought myself to wrap a rod. From that I got several requests to wrap some other rods. I was charging 5.00 to do them. Airplanes was always my big interest and when I was 16 I started taking flying lessons and the fly tying kind of slacked off , just tied on and off. I had my pilots license before I could legally drive. Went into the Air Force at age 18. . I built a folding wing airplane of my design in 1960. See tuholer.com Aviation was my life till 1988, heart problems ended my career with airplanes. In recovering I met a fly fisherman at the local pond and he was a fly tyer. That got me back into tying. I started tying at small local shows then got a break and was invited to tie at one of the bigger shows. From there more invitations came and I started tying in the show circut. My flies started showing up in magazines then in a number of books. I also had the opportunity to meet and become friends with a good number of top names in the fly fishing world. I was also invited to join the Pro staff of Gudebrod, Dyna King, Mag Eyes, Conranch Hackles, and Nymph Head Fly Tying beads. Was a featured tyer at many of the shows. In 1993, on our way to Oklahoma, we stopped in Arkansas to attend a FFF Conclave. while there we bought a place on the White River. Moved here six months later and I fished almost every day for the first three years. I got involved with the local Fly Fishing Club and became very active. In 1996 I got the club to agree to get a show started. That is the Sowbug Roundup, one of the best tying shows in the country. I held tying classes for the club and had a class of my own at my house once a year. I started to get invitations to tie at the local area shows and the FFF Conclaves. I could travel then and did a lot of shows in a number of other states. I also was going back to tie at the east coast shows till other health problems limited that.During this time I started tying for a few shops and resorts along for several clients. With all of this, I was also building Graphite fly rods. We have a local rod shop that I also wrapped some rods for them. In 1998, I got into making bamboo rods from scratch. That really cut into my tying time and the tying slacked off quite a bit. I am still tying and making rods but at a slower scale. I have some health poblems that are slowing me down quite a bit. I still teach making bamboo rods. All the above does not make me better than anyone else, I am just thankful that I was able to accomplish this when I was able to do so. Other hobbies are Photography, building strip Canoes, Wood Carving and a number of other things over the years. Yes, Dot my wife of 59 years puts up with all of this. I could go on but this is becoming a book Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Re: VFB Then Now -Suggestion
Paul, Like you, I just don't think a forum will be a good thing. I for one just can't handle it. That is why I am not on any forum lists. By the way, I did not mention I got to meet you at one of the shows when I listed some of the VFB members I have met at shows. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Paul pm...@tallships.ca wrote: From: Paul pm...@tallships.ca Subject: [VFB] Re: VFB Then Now -Suggestion To: VFB Mail vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:10 PM I too am a founding member. Unlike many I go way back to the Newsgroups days, what a chaotic mess that was!! VFB traffic is reasonable. Other formats generally require one to go to a URL, when the Streamer list went that way I went away. The Google digest is friendly, one click and I'm able to respond. Like many originals (such as Hans W), I tend to respond only to those threads of particular interest. Also, with possibly 10,000 flies, swaps have mostly lost their raison d'etre. While still a member of FF@, I haven't posted in years. The volume of posts is too much for individual setting, and I've never been keen on their digest. I'm also a member of Jimmy's Flyfishingworld list, and while quiet, occasionally has a good thread. To me VFB is healthy. While unable to run the monster caddis swap, it seems to me that most of the announced swaps find a reasonable number of participants. Unfortunately the world has changed for the worst; many of us remember when flying might actually be enjoyable!!! Cross- border mail has become both expensive and a total hassle---it would never occur to me to send flies to the US. The last time I tried to send flies to a US magazine they were locked in a customs warehouse in Atlanta and the magazine was told to cough up several hundred dollars (they declined!!). cheers Paul Marriner www.galesendpress.com On Jan 26, 4:40 pm, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: David: This is a quote taken directly from my Jan 2010 newsletter sent to my fellow club members Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today
Is that the one caught on the Chili Pepper. I have to see that. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com wrote: From: David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:01 PM OMG Nick, you are LEGEND!!! Where do I post Emmas 1st Rainbow pic??? 2010/1/26 Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com I'm as good maintaining my inbox as I am maintaining my tying bench. This was what I found in a mid-August mail from 2004. (Not by Don though...) -- So welcome to the world, Emma Elizabeth Colyn, I'm sure it won't be long, Before a fly-rod you'll be holdin'. Your dad will be posting many times, as your virtues he'll be extolin'. Buggs -- /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För David Colyn Skickat: den 26 januari 2010 21:31 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today Sorry Don, it was 5 1/2 years ago and some months of gestation. You composed the most beautifull ode to an expected daughter. And its been lost in my maelstrom of electronic records. (I know I have a hardcopy in the archives) But, more to my point, we do things out of kindness, and forget them, but they are remembered forever. So I measure the worth of my friends. Thanks again Don. 2010/1/26 David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com Hold on, I'll go find it 2010/1/26 Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com David, I don't remember the 'Ode to Emma'. Please refresh these tired, abused brain cells. DonO - Original Message - From: David Colyn To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today Hello you All Wouldn't it be Jimmy (Mud Hole Lunkers) or some such to dredge me out of the reeds? I'm not gonna tell anyone about lurking, skulking, poaching or the like, but I've got my fair share of the value of you old bunch of smelly waders. Jimmy, who has defended me against the worst of them. Don, telling me about dental floss and them big ass flies. Tony, and all his words of wisdom (still haven't built it.) your chili Pepper caught my youngest, Emma a real corker, it did! Don (again) your ode to Emma will never release me. Do YOU remember that one? Nick, how far you have come, my friend, a true doien to the cult, what issit, three now?? Ankle biters, I mean hahahaaha, to Theresa my regards. Kieth, never made that second trip to Germany, but you knew or expected that, didn't you? Ruven.. you still here, not seen you in a bit. Pete Gramp ??? I feel you buddy. Apologies to anyone I may not have mentioned, tis not intentional, I swear. Remind me and you are in my heart still. Oh, I'll mention you too. tee hee. I am happy to still be a member, although not a dues dunner (who was that?) so nail me to the wall Byard always treated me well. and still get your chat every day. Damn, its good to be reminded of happier days. When a trip to Lesotho was the highlight of the year! No Jimmy not for Bucket mouths! I lament at the state of the VFB, and no thanks to me for not contributing, my head hangs in shame. Excuses are the apologies for those not worthy of mention. HOWEVER I salute you, the stalwarts of the fraternity. YOU have kept the course, the passion and the faith. I, for one, am eternally grateful for the freethinking inspiration you have so graciously poured over us. Thank you, my distant friends Your ever-grateful student David Munro Colyn Pretoria Gauteng South Africa P.S. Find me at http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profileid=645517785 If you do it at all?? U, when did I sign up here? 2010/1/26 Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Thanks DonO: We have indeed lost members. I just checked and as of today, we have 200 members, a far cry from our high water mark of 600 +. Right now we're averaging 775 posts per month, which comes in at 29 VFB posts per day. 775 sounded like a lot, but the 29 ain't much. With 200 members, we should have lots more activity and we can if our members will remember what the VFB was designed for - learning from each other and passing on tips on fly fishing / tying. Maybe some of us, not me and DonO, are too bashful to pose a question or pose a comment. However, we all need to remember that THERE'S NO DUMB QUESTION WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. So, lets get cracking and ask those questions and pass along our fly fishing and fly tying tips. I do the Daily Quote and that generates a few comments, but maybe I should pull in a few instructional quotes too. Don't worry about someone on the list jumping you for a comment you've made. If they
Re: [VFB] VFB Then Now -Suggestion
Nev, Some change is good but some is bad. The river I moved to 16 years ago has changed and the people fishing it have also changed but not for the good. Now from my first tying days, it really has changed and most of it for the good. I can't agree on a forum. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Subject: [VFB] VFB Then Now -Suggestion To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 2:40 PM David: This is a quote taken directly from my Jan 2010 newsletter sent to my fellow club members I returned from the United Kingdom just three days ago after my longest ever stay in the UK since coming to Canada in 1972. Every time that I go back, I find things just that little bit different. It is no longer the same country that I left all those years ago, but then again, neither is the Canada that I returned to the same as the one I came to in 1972. Canada has become more urbanized over the years. While in the UK , I read a book by W.D. Wetherell entitled “North of Now” that discusses country life in New Hampshire and Vermont , and the fact that country life is changing and in many cases disappearing. The quotation “Change is inevitable. Change is Constant” is attributed to Benjamin Disraeli and is so true. I believe that in order to continue as a strong and respected club, the Totem Flyfishers must also change, but change is stressful and tends to invoke resistance. Traditions are important and comfortable, so how does one balance retaining important traditions with change? Another quote, this time by Niccolo Machiavelli states; “Whosoever desires constant success must change his conduct with the times.” I believe that we must adapt with the times in order to attract new and younger members. In my opinion, the present average age of members is too great and we must bring in new and if possible younger persons in order to have a group of younger like-minded members to pass the club on to. I am pleased to say that I believe that we are just beginning to make a little progress in this area and I ask each of you to diligently look out for potential new members as we go forward into 2010. So, in answer to your question, I think that the VFB must change in order to attract more members. Although I prefer the e-mail list, I suggest that we TRY the forum approach. Just take a look at this http://speypages.com/speyclave/ and look at the number of posts and threads. http://www.flybc.ca is similar. That's my 2 cents worth. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Colyn Sent: January 26, 2010 12:04 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Then Now Well said Nev. Have any solution to the well defined problem?? I sure dont. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today
Done. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com wrote: From: David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:12 PM Tony, send me your pvt email addy to davidco...@gmail.com, I'll send you an original pic D 2010/1/27 Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com Is that the one caught on the Chili Pepper. I have to see that. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com wrote: From: David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:01 PM OMG Nick, you are LEGEND!!! Where do I post Emmas 1st Rainbow pic??? 2010/1/26 Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com I'm as good maintaining my inbox as I am maintaining my tying bench. This was what I found in a mid-August mail from 2004. (Not by Don though...) -- So welcome to the world, Emma Elizabeth Colyn, I'm sure it won't be long, Before a fly-rod you'll be holdin'. Your dad will be posting many times, as your virtues he'll be extolin'. Buggs -- /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För David Colyn Skickat: den 26 januari 2010 21:31 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today Sorry Don, it was 5 1/2 years ago and some months of gestation. You composed the most beautifull ode to an expected daughter. And its been lost in my maelstrom of electronic records. (I know I have a hardcopy in the archives) But, more to my point, we do things out of kindness, and forget them, but they are remembered forever. So I measure the worth of my friends. Thanks again Don. 2010/1/26 David Colyn davidco...@googlemail.com Hold on, I'll go find it 2010/1/26 Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com David, I don't remember the 'Ode to Emma'. Please refresh these tired, abused brain cells. DonO - Original Message - From: David Colyn To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] 200 VFB members as of today Hello you All Wouldn't it be Jimmy (Mud Hole Lunkers) or some such to dredge me out of the reeds? I'm not gonna tell anyone about lurking, skulking, poaching or the like, but I've got my fair share of the value of you old bunch of smelly waders. Jimmy, who has defended me against the worst of them. Don, telling me about dental floss and them big ass flies. Tony, and all his words of wisdom (still haven't built it.) your chili Pepper caught my youngest, Emma a real corker, it did! Don (again) your ode to Emma will never release me. Do YOU remember that one? Nick, how far you have come, my friend, a true doien to the cult, what issit, three now?? Ankle biters, I mean hahahaaha, to Theresa my regards. Kieth, never made that second trip to Germany, but you knew or expected that, didn't you? Ruven.. you still here, not seen you in a bit. Pete Gramp ??? I feel you buddy. Apologies to anyone I may not have mentioned, tis not intentional, I swear. Remind me and you are in my heart still. Oh, I'll mention you too. tee hee. I am happy to still be a member, although not a dues dunner (who was that?) so nail me to the wall Byard always treated me well. and still get your chat every day. Damn, its good to be reminded of happier days. When a trip to Lesotho was the highlight of the year! No Jimmy not for Bucket mouths! I lament at the state of the VFB, and no thanks to me for not contributing, my head hangs in shame. Excuses are the apologies for those not worthy of mention. HOWEVER I salute you, the stalwarts of the fraternity. YOU have kept the course, the passion and the faith. I, for one, am eternally grateful for the freethinking inspiration you have so graciously poured over us. Thank you, my distant friends Your ever-grateful student David Munro Colyn Pretoria Gauteng South Africa P.S. Find me at http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profileid=645517785 If you do it at all?? U, when did I sign up here? 2010/1/26 Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Thanks DonO: We have indeed lost members. I just checked and as of today, we have 200 members, a far cry from our high water mark of 600 +. Right now we're averaging 775 posts per month, which comes in at 29 VFB posts per day. 775 sounded like a lot, but the 29 ain't much. With 200 members, we should have lots more activity and we can if our members will remember what the VFB was designed for - learning from each other and passing on tips on fly fishing / tying. Maybe some of us, not me and DonO, are too bashful to pose a question or pose a comment
Re: [VFB] Crocheted Fly
Looks like ai have one wrong fly with the photos. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Crocheted Fly To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:43 PM I do it with a Mini Latch hook called a Knit Picker , much easier than using a Crochet hook Here are some shots of my Knitpikin Mayfly. I also do Scuds and Sowbugs like that using two different colored threads.. It is the same as the overhand weave. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Subject: [VFB] Crocheted Fly To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 4:19 PM Does anyone know anything about Crocheted flies? I read a old article about one but it was very short and only showed 1 BW picture, very grainy. Its not actually done with a hook and thread, I hope. If this is a repeat sorry, having problems with mail and not knowimg if these are getting through at all. Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Then Now -Suggestion response
Nev, I may not like it but if that happens, I will stay with all my friends. I tried a forum and am signed up to two of them. I just don't participate because I just don't know how to navigate them. For you young guys with computer knowledge , it may be fine. For this old toot that had his learning with pencil and paper, it is hard to learn new ways I guess. I will check some of the ones you have listed below and see if I can navigate them. Wish you were making the Sowbug, maybe some day. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Subject: [VFB] Then Now -Suggestion response To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 6:21 PM Hi Tony: This was David Colyn's response to my original Then Now Well said Nev. Have any solution to the well defined problem?? I sure dont. .and so I anwered him by saying what I believe and that is that forums (or bulletin boards if you like the word better) seem to have greater following than e-mail lists. I suggested TRYING forum style. I expected resistance, because people resist change because it is not comfortable. I doubt that many VFB members have really looked at the forum pages that I listed previously. If you go to this forum http://forum.flybc.ca/ you will come to a page of subjects or topics - In this case, fly tying is fourth from the top. If one clicks on that, your come to a page with a huge variety of more specific topics and just choose what takes your interest. http://forum.flybc.ca/index.php?showforum=13 another good example can be found below http://speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=38433 now scroll down just a little and you will com to a black screen entitled SPTV (Spey Pages TV) click on the arrow in the middle of the screen, turn on your speakers and watch a superb video on wader safety from Simms. The point I am trying (not very successfully) to make is that these modern forums are what today's younger anglers look for because the are far more versatile than an e-mail list and can show videos and photos with no problem. Tony, you and I are friends athough we have never met in person. I have a great deal of respect for you and for some of the other long time members. However, to quote your words.. Like you, I just don't think a forum will be a good thing. I for one just can't handle it. I believe that you could handle a forum if you wanted to, but the key is wanting to. I like the e-mail list format but it is outdated and not as versatile as other methods. The forum is not as intimate as an e-mail list. Perhaps Google Wave or something like it will eventually replace e-mail. Just my 2 cent worth. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions
Chuck, There are no dumb questions when you don't know the answer. You have coma a long way in tying. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:44 PM One thing I learned about asking a zillion questions when I first joined here. If you are a lurker . or not a lurker, and you ask a question. ANY question. no matter how simple it may seem. You can bet your last dollar that there is somebody else out there who wanted to ask that very same question, but were too shy, thought it was a dumb question etc.. I used to get off list emails from ppl all the time telling me I'm glad you asked the question you did, cause I have been wanting to ask that myself. Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions
That it is, Tony --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 4:25 PM That's like, when I'm trying to tie a complicated pattern, and mine comes out looking only halfway what the thing is supposed to look like I tell ppl Oh, that's a VARIATION of that fly LOL, Chuck - Original Message - From: J Balmer To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions I get depressed when I tie panic when the deadline is two days awayJ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Alexander Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:49 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions Tony: Thanks. I feel like I have come a long way. I had some great teachers like yourself who were there to help me when I didn't know the answers. I know one thing.Tying has changed my life. I have depression and panic attacks and I can sit down and tie flies when I have a flair up, and it calms me down, Chuck - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions Chuck, There are no dumb questions when you don't know the answer. You have coma a long way in tying. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: [VFB] Lurkers (or NON lurkers) and asking questions To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:44 PM One thing I learned about asking a zillion questions when I first joined here. If you are a lurker . or not a lurker, and you ask a question. ANY question. no matter how simple it may seem. You can bet your last dollar that there is somebody else out there who wanted to ask that very same question, but were too shy, thought it was a dumb question etc.. I used to get off list emails from ppl all the time telling me I'm glad you asked the question you did, cause I have been wanting to ask that myself. Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2649 - Release Date: 01/27/10 07:08:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2649 - Release Date: 01/27/10 07:08:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background
Saving hanger rent was the best deal, I kept the plane at home in my garage. Yes, I did get a lot of looks especially when I towed it from Oklahoma to N.J. when I moved. I had it on a trailer I built especially for the plane.. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:33 PM Tony: That's awesome how you put the flip up wings on the Tuholer, so you can hook it up and ride on down the road. I bet you got a lot of stares going down the road huh??? Chuck - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background Tony's too modest to say much about himself, so I'll do it for him. To see and read a bunch on Tony, click on the link below. He's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. He's also a world class fly tyer and bamboo rod builder. JIMMY D http://www.deepcreekflyfishers.org/tony_spezio.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2647 - Release Date: 01/26/10 13:36:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background
Will reply off list. Thought the other reply was off list. Sorry about that. Tony --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 10:33 AM Looked like it had quite a bit of tongue weight on that station wagon. That was a good idea on saving the hangar space.. Did you have any formal education in air craft or air foil physics, engineering or something like that?? or just built it from experience?? What was that first flight like??? I bet that maiden flight would be kinda scary if you felt any vibration, heard any weird noises etc. Did you wear a chute when you were testing it??? Oh, and did you ever use it to fly to any remote fly fishing places?? I see the Fly Fishing shows on TV, and they fly into places that you'd never get to any other way and catch trophy fish. Chuck - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background Saving hanger rent was the best deal, I kept the plane at home in my garage. Yes, I did get a lot of looks especially when I towed it from Oklahoma to N.J. when I moved. I had it on a trailer I built especially for the plane.. Tony --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: Chuck Alexander chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:33 PM Tony: That's awesome how you put the flip up wings on the Tuholer, so you can hook it up and ride on down the road. I bet you got a lot of stares going down the road huh??? Chuck - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net To: Virtual Fly Box vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: [VFB] Tony Spezio - A little background Tony's too modest to say much about himself, so I'll do it for him. To see and read a bunch on Tony, click on the link below. He's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. He's also a world class fly tyer and bamboo rod builder. JIMMY D http://www.deepcreekflyfishers.org/tony_spezio.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2647 - Release Date: 01/26/10 13:36:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2651 - Release Date: 01/28/10 01:36:00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail
Re: [VFB]Crocheted flies
Don, What I do is basically the overhand weave. Doing it with a Knitpicker is easier when using thread. Trying to weave the thread by hand is hard to handle. It was originally done with a Crochet hook but I tried the Knitpicker and found it a lot better. I also do scuds, Sowbugs and other bodies using two thread colors. Tony --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB]Crocheted flies To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 4:23 PM #yiv1135184470 .hmmessage P { PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;} #yiv1135184470 { FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;FONT-SIZE:10pt;} There's been a few comments recently on this. I know Tony has a version and Nick does some. Torril Kolbu is famous for them, and you can find her on the internet. Extended bodies are one aspect of crocheted flies, as is Tony's. Weaves can present almost the same effects as crocheting, and are quicker to tie. Look up: czech weave, overhand weave, square-knot weave, belly-weave. A couple of Torill's flies: - Original Message - From: Bob Scarbrough To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds, now lurkers I do have one question, might get more people talking. I ran into a old article the other day about a crocheted fly, has anyone every tied one or know more about them? Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:00:05 -0800 From: bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Something different , Our backgrounds, now lurkers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com -- VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] I'll take the VFB list over any Forum
Hay Dan. That brought you out of the woodwork. We need more members to do the same. Tony --- On Fri, 1/29/10, Dan kc5...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Dan kc5...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [VFB] I'll take the VFB list over any Forum To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 9:23 AM Alright guys and gals, you got me out of lurk node. I will finally come out of lurk mode and add to this discussion. I too agree with most of the replies here. I am members of both forums and lists like these, and both have their pluses and minuses. For me. I like the ease and informality of lists like this over the forum set-up. Just so much more personal and easy to use to me. Even though I don't post much here, and don't participate in many of the fly swaps, I read most of the messages posted. Well, maybe not most of them, but some of them...well, OK you got me, maybe a few messages get past the reading of the subject line, LOL. In all seriousness, I have learned a lot from this group. I am sure I will continue to learn as more and more posts are made. Not only do I learn about fly tying and fishing, which is great, I also gain some insight as to who the members here are. That in itself is reason enough to be a member here. Thanks guys, I feel as though I have friends from around the world, from Sweden to South Africa, from Australia to England. From the USA, and even from Kansas! I know that if I need to know something, I can post the inquiry here on VFB, and usually withing minutes, I will have an answer. That in itself is worth the price of admission here. To top it off, the answers arrive in my mailbox automatically and all by themselves, without me needing to click on a link to go somewhere else to read the reply. If I were to ask the same question on a forum, and if I forget to 'subscribe' to the thread, and I get distracted for a day or two and I forget to check the forum, I may never see any replies. At any rate, thanks for this thread. It has brought some life to VFB. And now, since I am working 32 hours a day, I shall, out of necessity, return to the realm of lurkdom until I can take my next breath of air ( I am not allowed to breathe while at work! LOL). Have fun and smooth waters, Salty Dan If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies. Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM Nevulle- Thank you. I have some furnace hackle. I was confused with the term Greenwell. I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials Dail - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Dail: It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark centre section. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail Graham Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory pacres- yes tied by McPhail. What is greenwells feather? I can not find any listing my catalogs. Thanks for answering. Dail - Original Message - From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM Materials are listed at the begining. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: Help I saw a U Tube video on tying a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory. The recipe was not clear. What feathers are used on this fly? I know someone on this list has the answer. Thanks, Dail Graham __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4821 (20100130) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- http://flytyer.wordpress.com - The Daily Fly Tyer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4821 (20100130) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4822 (20100131) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4822 (20100131) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
I have not tied any in a long time, I just got the bug to do it again. The only problem is when I start tying someone comes by and wants a Chili Pepper of a Froggie. and ther goes all my plans. Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:03 PM Yea Tony- I have noticed that a lot of tiers do soft hackles but not many do the old time wets. I thought maybe a few old wets might be interesting. See you soon. Dail - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies. Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM Nevulle- Thank you. I have some furnace hackle. I was confused with the term Greenwell. I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials Dail - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Dail: It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark centre section. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail Graham Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory pacres- yes tied by McPhail. What is greenwells feather? I can not find any listing my catalogs. Thanks for answering. Dail - Original Message - From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM Materials are listed at the begining. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: Help I saw a U Tube video on tying a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory. The recipe was not clear. What feathers are used on this fly? I know someone on this list has the answer. Thanks, Dail Graham __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4821 (20100130) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- http://flytyer.wordpress.com - The Daily Fly Tyer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4821 (20100130) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
Joyce, The wings can be down, up, outward or inward. It depends on the pattern. In any case they are tied in the same way. The biggest mistake most make on tying in the wings is that they use the wrong part of the feather. If you hold the quill up to a light, you will see a distinct line out from the stem. Some call it the Blood line. If the barbs are cut off with the blood line on them when tying them in at this point,, the barbs will split. Cut the section behind the blood line to use as wings. If you leave these on, tie in the wings behind this line, it is actually the softer part of the barbs. In most cases, use a marched set of quills, right and left. Cut an equal number of barbs from each side, count the barbs and use a dubbing needle to separate them. Match them up either up, down, in or out. Place them in position and bring the thread up through your holding fingers and drop the bobbin. This will put a light crease in the barbs. Sometime taking a finger nail and pressing it where the thread is, forming a deeper crease will help, Now pull straight down on the thread and bring it around back in the crease while squeezing the wing as tight as you can with your two fingers. Make a second wrap and the wings should be set. If you notice any rolling off to one side, make the adjustment before the second thread wrap. Another way to make the wing from a large feather ts to cut a wide section of barbs from one side. Then fold them so that they match. In or out, up or down, tie them in as above.. I hope this helps If not, let me know. Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:57 PM OK, since you've mentioned wets, I'd be interested in any tips or tricks for tying in wet fly wings. Mine always look a mashed mess. Do you point the ends up or down? I await your reply. I'm thinking I might just have to try a few. Joyce On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies. Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM Nevulle- Thank you. I have some furnace hackle. I was confused with the term Greenwell. I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials Dail - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Dail: It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark centre section. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail Graham Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory pacres- yes tied by McPhail. What is greenwells feather? I can not find any listing my catalogs. Thanks for answering. Dail - Original Message - From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM Materials are listed at the begining. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: Help I saw a U Tube video on tying a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory. The recipe was not clear. What feathers are used on this fly? I know someone on this list has the answer. Thanks, Dail Graham __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4821 (20100130) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- http://flytyer.wordpress.com - The Daily Fly Tyer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
Famous, No way, just an ordinary guy who ties flies people like. They catch fish too. LOL Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:56 PM Tony -Best laid plans often go astray when your famous. Dail - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory I have not tied any in a long time, I just got the bug to do it again. The only problem is when I start tying someone comes by and wants a Chili Pepper of a Froggie. and ther goes all my plans. Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 6:03 PM Yea Tony- I have noticed that a lot of tiers do soft hackles but not many do the old time wets. I thought maybe a few old wets might be interesting. See you soon. Dail - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies. Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM Nevulle- Thank you. I have some furnace hackle. I was confused with the term Greenwell. I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials Dail - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Dail: It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark centre section. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail Graham Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory pacres- yes tied by McPhail. What is greenwells feather? I can not find any listing my catalogs. Thanks for answering. Dail - Original Message - From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM Materials are listed at the begining. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: Help I saw a U Tube video on tying a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory. The recipe was not clear. What feathers are used
Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
Joyce, Yes, that is a good start. the lenght is normally to about 1/2 of the tail from behind the hook eye. Tony --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 5:27 AM Thanks..I shall try this. Do you use the gap of the hook as a measure for wing width? Joyce On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Joyce, The wings can be down, up, outward or inward. It depends on the pattern. In any case they are tied in the same way. The biggest mistake most make on tying in the wings is that they use the wrong part of the feather. If you hold the quill up to a light, you will see a distinct line out from the stem. Some call it the Blood line. If the barbs are cut off with the blood line on them when tying them in at this point,, the barbs will split. Cut the section behind the blood line to use as wings. If you leave these on, tie in the wings behind this line, it is actually the softer part of the barbs. In most cases, use a marched set of quills, right and left. Cut an equal number of barbs from each side, count the barbs and use a dubbing needle to separate them. Match them up either up, down, in or out. Place them in position and bring the thread up through your holding fingers and drop the bobbin. This will put a light crease in the barbs. Sometime taking a finger nail and pressing it where the thread is, forming a deeper crease will help, Now pull straight down on the thread and bring it around back in the crease while squeezing the wing as tight as you can with your two fingers. Make a second wrap and the wings should be set. If you notice any rolling off to one side, make the adjustment before the second thread wrap. Another way to make the wing from a large feather ts to cut a wide section of barbs from one side. Then fold them so that they match. In or out, up or down, tie them in as above.. I hope this helps If not, let me know. Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Joyce Westphal westpha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 7:57 PM OK, since you've mentioned wets, I'd be interested in any tips or tricks for tying in wet fly wings. Mine always look a mashed mess. Do you point the ends up or down? I await your reply. I'm thinking I might just have to try a few. Joyce On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Looks like there will be three of us tying the old wet flies. Tony --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: From: Dail Graham d...@positech.net Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 12:33 PM Nevulle- Thank you. I have some furnace hackle. I was confused with the term Greenwell. I am going to tie some wets at Sowbug and wanted to have the right materials Dail - Original Message - From: Neville Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:07 AM Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Dail: It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark centre section. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail Graham Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory pacres- yes tied by McPhail. What is greenwells feather? I can not find any listing my catalogs. Thanks for answering. Dail - Original Message - From: Pacres To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM Materials are listed at the begining. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: Help I saw a U Tube video on tying a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory. The recipe was not clear. What feathers are used on this fly? I know someone on this list has the answer. Thanks, Dail Graham __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4821 (20100130) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [VFB] Head Magnifiers
Mike, For me they are the only thing. I read in the other posts that they are not for some. I have several types and the Opti Visor is the best for me. I just can't tie with a Magnifier Light, I wear bifocal glasses and a 5X lens in the visor. I can look through my bifocals at things on the bench and they are clear and then look at the fly in the vise and it is clear without adjusting the visor. The only thing I find when tying at shows is looking up at the person I am talking to.. I do automatically raise the visor to look at that person. I go almost all day with the visor on my head. This would bother some people and not others, maybe I just have a hard head. The Mag Eyes would be second choice they are light in weight but I still prefer the Opti Visor. I have two pair the 5X for tying and 7X for rod wrapping. The cheap ones with lights from Harbor Freight are just OK but not as good as the better ones. They are usually on sale for less than 5.00 You will have to decide, this is what works best for me. Tony --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Head Magnifiers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 11:03 PM I am thinking of buying a head magnifier. I looked at one at the craft store and it was $40 for one with one lens. I looked at Ebay and they start around $5. Does anyone use these and do you have any idea which one to buy? Are the cheapies just as good for tying purposes as the more expensive ones? Mike -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Head Magnifiers
The lenses come in 1 1/2 to 7 magnification. There is an added small lens that brings it up quite a bit. I think it is +10 over the lens you have , it swivels on one of the screws.. It is for watchmakers. I really never use mine. The lens are replicable with two screws.Some tyers that have tried mine say the +5 lens is too much for them and others say it is fine. A lot depends on how far you are from the fly. Long arms further than short arms. Tony --- On Wed, 2/3/10, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Head Magnifiers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 2:03 PM Tony, I have bifocals as well. Do your Opti-Visors have the small magnifier len(s) that adds to the strength of the primary one or is it one lens? Mike On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Mike, For me they are the only thing. I read in the other posts that they are not for some. I have several types and the Opti Visor is the best for me. I just can't tie with a Magnifier Light, I wear bifocal glasses and a 5X lens in the visor. I can look through my bifocals at things on the bench and they are clear and then look at the fly in the vise and it is clear without adjusting the visor. The only thing I find when tying at shows is looking up at the person I am talking to.. I do automatically raise the visor to look at that person. I go almost all day with the visor on my head. This would bother some people and not others, maybe I just have a hard head. The Mag Eyes would be second choice they are light in weight but I still prefer the Opti Visor. I have two pair the 5X for tying and 7X for rod wrapping. The cheap ones with lights from Harbor Freight are just OK but not as good as the better ones. They are usually on sale for less than 5.00 You will have to decide, this is what works best for me. Tony --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com Subject: [VFB] Head Magnifiers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 11:03 PM I am thinking of buying a head magnifier. I looked at one at the craft store and it was $40 for one with one lens. I looked at Ebay and they start around $5. Does anyone use these and do you have any idea which one to buy? Are the cheapies just as good for tying purposes as the more expensive ones? Mike -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Tony
How True. LOL Tony --- On Wed, 2/3/10, J McK woodenleg...@hotmail.com wrote: From: J McK woodenleg...@hotmail.com Subject: [VFB] Tony To: Fly Swap vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 3:35 PM Tony I'm also short and most are taller, but the best thing about being short is were the last one to be hit when the sky is falling Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P. O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Knotted legs
Bob, This is my son's project, I only did the tying. LOL There are two DVDs to the set with 9 flies and tying tips. Most of he nine flies you will not find the recipe in books. There is Tony's Froggie, Knitpikin Mayfly, Chili Pepper, White River Demon, Epoxi Minnow, Stillborn Emerger, Coffee Bean Beetle, Al's Fly and the Tape Wing Caddis. Anyone interested can contact me off list bambot...@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Knotted legs To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:49 PM Tony, Where can I find your DVD? I need to learn some tricks and helps that I cant get from the books I have been using. I tried to tie a fly on a size 20 the other day and was getting really frustrated. Course Im just getting back into tying after not doing it for a couple of years. Wasnt that good to begin with though. :) Bob Scarbrough Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:35:31 -0800 From: bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: [VFB] Knotted legs To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com I was asked about making Knotted Legs on another list. Thought it might start a tread on this list so I am posting a part of the message I sent -Took these this morning, The feather is a beat up Pheasant tail feather so the legs are not the best, it is just what I had right here. This is how I make my Knotted Legs # 1 Feather held in the vise. # 2 Make a loop around the Knipicker shaft # 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through the loop, this makes an overhand knot. # 4 Knotted leg # 5 Two Knotted Legs # 6 Three Knotted Legs Removed from Quill # 7 Knitpicker and Knotted Legs. I was also asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this case I did not but I do at times. Here is that reply Another list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was my reply to him. I sometimes coat them with a fixative that is used for spraying over pencil drawings but not always. It can be done either way. Spraying them makes it easier to separate the barbs for making the knot. The Knit Pickers I was getting then in the Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I think they went up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the Knitpikin Mayfly tail and body that I have on my tying DVD. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Knotted legs
Nick, I am still looking for one of those dubbing boxes like you had at the Sowbug. Tony --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:09 PM Meddelande I often use the knitpicker too, both for knotting legs, weaving and other loop operations. My one came together with a dubbing dispenser, to pull out the dubbing through the holes on the back of the compartments. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Anthony Spezio Skickat: den 8 februari 2010 18:36 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Knotted legs I was asked about making Knotted Legs on another list. Thought it might start a tread on this list so I am posting a part of the message I sent -Took these this morning, The feather is a beat up Pheasant tail feather so the legs are not the best, it is just what I had right here. This is how I make my Knotted Legs # 1 Feather held in the vise. # 2 Make a loop around the Knipicker shaft # 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through the loop, this makes an overhand knot. # 4 Knotted leg # 5 Two Knotted Legs # 6 Three Knotted Legs Removed from Quill # 7 Knitpicker and Knotted Legs. I was also asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this case I did not but I do at times. Here is that reply Another list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was my reply to him. I sometimes coat them with a fixative that is used for spraying over pencil drawings but not always. It can be done either way. Spraying them makes it easier to separate the barbs for making the knot. The Knit Pickers I was getting then in the Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I think they went up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the Knitpikin Mayfly tail and body that I have on my tying DVD. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers
Don, I have those what I was wanting is a cube with small compartments. It is handy for carrying a lot of different colors tor traveling.. Looks like Wapsi has them and Nick found them in Bozman for 6.00. It has 30 compartments. Tony --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:30 AM Meddelande Tony, This what you looking for? http://www.baxterhouseflyshop.com/servlet/the-121/Fly-Tying-Material%2C-Dubbing%2C/Detail - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs Nick, I am still looking for one of those dubbing boxes like you had at the Sowbug. Tony --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:09 PM I often use the knitpicker too, both for knotting legs, weaving and other loop operations. My one came together with a dubbing dispenser, to pull out the dubbing through the holes on the back of the compartments. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Anthony Spezio Skickat: den 8 februari 2010 18:36 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Knotted legs I was asked about making Knotted Legs on another list. Thought it might start a tread on this list so I am posting a part of the message I sent -Took these this morning, The feather is a beat up Pheasant tail feather so the legs are not the best, it is just what I had right here. This is how I make my Knotted Legs # 1 Feather held in the vise. # 2 Make a loop around the Knipicker shaft # 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through the loop, this makes an overhand knot. # 4 Knotted leg # 5 Two Knotted Legs # 6 Three Knotted Legs Removed from Quill # 7 Knitpicker and Knotted Legs. I was also asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this case I did not but I do at times. Here is that reply Another list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was my reply to him. I sometimes coat them with a fixative that is used for spraying over pencil drawings but not always. It can be done either way. Spraying them makes it easier to separate the barbs for making the knot. The Knit Pickers I was getting then in the Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I think they went up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the Knitpikin Mayfly tail and body that I have on my tying DVD. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers - FYI
Been there done that, it was not what I had wanted. Good idea for those that do not know about it. Tony --- On Tue, 2/9/10, J McK woodenleg...@hotmail.com wrote: From: J McK woodenleg...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers - FYI To: Fly Swap vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:22 AM My two cents worth, you can find plactis boxes at sporting goods stores and like Wla-Mart and make your own. Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P. O. Box 9104 Russellville, AR 72811 www.caddisflyfishers.org Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:53:52 -0800 From: bambot...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Don, I have those what I was wanting is a cube with small compartments. It is handy for carrying a lot of different colors tor traveling.. Looks like Wapsi has them and Nick found them in Bozman for 6.00. It has 30 compartments. Tony --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:30 AM Tony, This what you looking for? http://www.baxterhouseflyshop.com/servlet/the-121/Fly-Tying-Material%2C-Dubbing%2C/Detail - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs Nick, I am still looking for one of those dubbing boxes like you had at the Sowbug. Tony --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:09 PM I often use the knitpicker too, both for knotting legs, weaving and other loop operations. My one came together with a dubbing dispenser, to pull out the dubbing through the holes on the back of the compartments. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Anthony Spezio Skickat: den 8 februari 2010 18:36 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Knotted legs I was asked about making Knotted Legs on another list. Thought it might start a tread on this list so I am posting a part of the message I sent -Took these this morning, The feather is a beat up Pheasant tail feather so the legs are not the best, it is just what I had right here. This is how I make my Knotted Legs # 1 Feather held in the vise. # 2 Make a loop around the Knipicker shaft # 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through the loop, this makes an overhand knot. # 4 Knotted leg # 5 Two Knotted Legs # 6 Three Knotted Legs Removed from Quill # 7 Knitpicker and Knotted Legs. I was also asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this case I did not but I do at times. Here is that reply Another list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was my reply to him. I sometimes coat them with a fixative that is used for spraying over pencil drawings but not always. It can be done either way. Spraying them makes it easier to separate the barbs for making the knot. The Knit Pickers I was getting then in the Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I think they went up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the Knitpikin Mayfly tail and body that I have on my tying DVD. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message
Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers
Wes, I have several binders made up that way for some small hackle capes. It works fine and it would work as well for dubbing as you say. This is bringing out a number of good ideas and gets the list active. Keep it up. Tony --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: From: Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 10:15 AM My favorite for travel is to get a lightweight binder and put in 8-1/2 x 11 pages of clear plastic business card files. Each pocket meant to hold a business card will hold a LOT of dubbing. For an additional trick, punch a hole in the face of each pocket and pull the dubbing through the hole for a dispenser. My travel binder has about 60 different kinds of dubbing in it, and it takes next to no space and weighs very little. It all fits in a side pocket of the case that I transport my tying vise in. Wes WadaBend, Oregon On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Anthony Spezio bambot...@yahoo.com wrote: Don, I have those what I was wanting is a cube with small compartments. It is handy for carrying a lot of different colors tor traveling.. Looks like Wapsi has them and Nick found them in Bozman for 6.00. It has 30 compartments. Tony --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:30 AM Tony, This what you looking for? http://www.baxterhouseflyshop.com/servlet/the-121/Fly-Tying-Material%2C-Dubbing%2C/Detail - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs Nick, I am still looking for one of those dubbing boxes like you had at the Sowbug. Tony --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com wrote: From: Niclas Runarsson niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Knotted legs To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 12:09 PM I often use the knitpicker too, both for knotting legs, weaving and other loop operations. My one came together with a dubbing dispenser, to pull out the dubbing through the holes on the back of the compartments. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Anthony Spezio Skickat: den 8 februari 2010 18:36 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Knotted legs I was asked about making Knotted Legs on another list. Thought it might start a tread on this list so I am posting a part of the message I sent -Took these this morning, The feather is a beat up Pheasant tail feather so the legs are not the best, it is just what I had right here. This is how I make my Knotted Legs # 1 Feather held in the vise. # 2 Make a loop around the Knipicker shaft # 3 Catch the tag end and pull it through the loop, this makes an overhand knot. # 4 Knotted leg # 5 Two Knotted Legs # 6 Three Knotted Legs Removed from Quill # 7 Knitpicker and Knotted Legs. I was also asked if I sprayed the feather first. In this case I did not but I do at times. Here is that reply Another list member asked if I sprayed the feather first, here was my reply to him. I sometimes coat them with a fixative that is used for spraying over pencil drawings but not always. It can be done either way. Spraying them makes it easier to separate the barbs for making the knot. The Knit Pickers I was getting then in the Sewing Dept at Wally World for 99 cents. I think they went up to 1.09.00 now. I also use the for weaving the Knitpikin Mayfly tail and body that I have on my tying DVD. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr
Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers
Another good idea. Tony --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl wrote: From: Martin Westbeek martinwestb...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 1:16 PM Meddelande Ok, nice topic. Here is my shot at a better mousetrap: my favorite dubbing dispenser. It's sawn out of channel plates, which are polyacrylate plates used for transparent roofs over terraces and such. They are double walled plates with ribs dividing the plate into channels. The plate is 0.25 thick and the channels are 0,4 wide. Just saw the plate (they come in 40 x 40) to size (my dispensers are about 5 x 4) and voila. Each of those channels packs the same amount of dubbing as one of the compartments in the compartment boxes we all know. IMO the perfect box for traveling fly tiers. Mart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers
Wes, This works well, I use 1 gallon plastic zip lock bags. Really makes things simple. I carry five bags for the five flies I normally tie at shows. I see no need to carry a load of stuff I will not be using. As for the hooks, I have a 12 compartment box that will cover any hooks I might need. I was putting them in small bags but I quit doing that. Tony --- On Wed, 2/10/10, glw...@gundluth.org glw...@gundluth.org wrote: From: glw...@gundluth.org glw...@gundluth.org Subject: Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 9:24 AM I have done something similar with 8-1/2 x 11 page protectors. Only I put in all the materials needed for a certain fly. Hooks and dubbings are put in small zip loc bags and then into the page protector. I label each page and it makes things easier when I want to tie something like a White River Demon, Muddler Minnow, or a Klinkhammer. This is my one attempt so far to get some organization to my otherwise complete mess of fly tying materials. Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.co m To Sent by: vfb-m...@googlegroups.com vfb-m...@googlegr cc oups.com Subject Re: [VFB] Dubbing dispensers 02/09/2010 10:15 AM Please respond to vfb-m...@googlegr oups.com My favorite for travel is to get a lightweight binder and put in 8-1/2 x 11 pages of clear plastic business card files. Each pocket meant to hold a business card will hold a LOT of dubbing. For an additional trick, punch a hole in the face of each pocket and pull the dubbing through the hole for a dispenser. My travel binder has about 60 different kinds of dubbing in it, and it takes next to no space and weighs very little. It all fits in a side pocket of the case that I transport my tying vise in. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Vises
Bob, I go along with Mike on this. I have about 20 vises, I collect them, and each have their own pros and cons. I have a Danvise and can find a number of things that don't suite me but others love them. I have a Regal that is a fast production vise but if your hands are bad, squeezing the lever might be hard on your hands. The Norlander is a fast vise for tying some flies like the Woolly Buggers. I can go on but I think you get the idea. I use the Dyna King Barracuda Jr. For me it is the ideal vise in size as I do shows and it is just the right size to travel. I also have two other Dyna King vises that are smaller and I take one of them when just doing a local demo instead of taking the Jr.along and having to break down my tying station. My Jr. and complete tying station fits in a attache case as one unit along with the tools I will be using at the show. Tony --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Bliss flyfish...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Vises To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:41 PM Boy, Bob this is really a personal preference type of thing. I started on a Thompson A vise, then to a Renzetti Traveler and then a Regal. A few years ago I bought a NorVise. I have tied on a few others. Each seems to have its particular strength and weakness. If you enjoy your vise, don't change. If it no longer suits your needs there are lot's of vises and opinions. I think Hans W. did a fine article a few years back on vises that I think you could find on the internet. The best thing to do if you want to make a change is to find a full service shop that has several of the vises that you are considering and ask to tie on them. Many will let you sit down and try them out (at least mine did). Lacking that if there is a tying group in your area find out when they meet and sit with them and tie on theirs. It's the best way to decide, especially if you are thinking of stepping up to a much more expensive vise. Mike On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a general question about vises. Whats the differences between the lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models? I am thinking of upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different. Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- Mike Bliss Aloha from Hawaii -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
Re: [VFB] Vises
Quality and Service for the most part. As I mentioned, I have a number of vises. If I chip the jaws on my 80.00 vise, I might as well chuck it. The company is no longer in business. I have another lower priced vise that had worn out jaws. If I want to replace them, O have to buy the new upgraded ones as the old ones are not available. I have broken the jaws on my JR. they not only replaced the jaws but upgraded the jaws and the vise itself and shipped it back to me overnight mail as I was doing a show in N.Y.I wanted to use that vise at the show. All this at no cost to me. I chipped the jaws on my Regal and they replaced them at no cost.. --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Subject: [VFB] Vises To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:30 PM I have a general question about vises. Whats the differences between the lower priced (100 and below) and the higher priced models? I am thinking of upgrading but dont know if I need to, I have a Danvise and like it, course its the only one Ive owned so I dont know any different. Bob Scarbrough a69ju...@hotmail.com Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com