Re: Number keys do not work

[Michael Hawkins]

Thank you Ronni,

I’ll do as you have suggested. With Daniel’s help, my MacBook Pro has given me 
very good service over the years.

Cheers,

Michael

> On 12 Mar 2019, at 1:16 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> If the keys work on the external, your keyboard sounds like some of the keys 
> are damaged or worn out :( 
> Rather than suggest anything else to try, probably taking your MBP to Apple 
> or a Apple Authorized Service Provider (MacWorx Joondalup).
> https://www.macworx.com.au/service <https://www.macworx.com.au/service>
> 
> Unfortunately your MacBook Pro (same model as my 17-Inch MBP) is too old and 
> is not equipped with butterfly mechanism keyboard to qualify for free repairs 
> of MacBook and MacBookPro models equipped with low-profile, butterfly 
> mechanism keyboards.
> To replace the keyboard on your MBP would be very expensive even if anyone 
> stocks that model keyboard.
> 
> https://www.apple.com/au/support/keyboard-service-program-for-macbook-and-macbook-pro/
>  
> <https://www.apple.com/au/support/keyboard-service-program-for-macbook-and-macbook-pro/>
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 12 Mar 2019, at 11:55 am, Michael Hawkins 
>> mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello and thank you Ronni,
>> 
>> Sadly, It looks like the computer and I are both losing some functionality 
>> with age:
>> Despite trying a number of times, resetting the SMC did not work.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Mar 2019, at 5:28 pm, Ronni Brown >> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> Reset the SMC on your MacBook Pro.
>>> 1. Shutdown your MacBook Pro by choosing Shutdown from the Apple  Menu
>>> 
>>> 2. After your Mac shuts down, press Shift-Control-Option on the left side 
>>> of the built-in keyboard, then press the Power button at the same time. 
>>> Hold these keys and the power button for 10 seconds.
>>> 
>>> 3. Release all keys
>>> 
>>> 4. Press the power button again to turn on your computer
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10 Mar 2019, at 6:24 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> >>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The number keys on my MacBook Pro  (17 inch, late 2011)(macOS High Sierra 
>>>> 10.13.6) have stopped working (other than the key for “0” and “)”. I’m 
>>>> using my bluetooth keyboard to write this email.
>>>> 
>>>> The other keys in the row that includes the number keys do work, but the 
>>>> keys for symbols such as @*%^& do not.
>>>> 
>>>> I have run Disc First Aid.
>>>> T
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Hawkins
>>>> 
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Re: Number keys do not work

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello and thank you Ronni,

Sadly, It looks like the computer and I are both losing some functionality with 
age:
Despite trying a number of times, resetting the SMC did not work.

Cheers,

Michael


> On 11 Mar 2019, at 5:28 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Reset the SMC on your MacBook Pro.
> 1. Shutdown your MacBook Pro by choosing Shutdown from the Apple  Menu
> 
> 2. After your Mac shuts down, press Shift-Control-Option on the left side of 
> the built-in keyboard, then press the Power button at the same time. 
> Hold these keys and the power button for 10 seconds.
> 
> 3. Release all keys
> 
> 4. Press the power button again to turn on your computer
> 
> Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2019, at 6:24 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The number keys on my MacBook Pro  (17 inch, late 2011)(macOS High Sierra 
>> 10.13.6) have stopped working (other than the key for “0” and “)”. I’m using 
>> my bluetooth keyboard to write this email.
>> 
>> The other keys in the row that includes the number keys do work, but the 
>> keys for symbols such as @*%^& do not.
>> 
>> I have run Disc First Aid.
>> T
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
>> 
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Number keys do not work

[Michael Hawkins]

The number keys on my MacBook Pro  (17 inch, late 2011)(macOS High Sierra 
10.13.6) have stopped working (other than the key for “0” and “)”. I’m using my 
bluetooth keyboard to write this email.

The other keys in the row that includes the number keys do work, but the keys 
for symbols such as @*%^& do not.

I have run Disc First Aid.
 T
Any suggestions?

Thank you,

Michael Hawkins


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Re: RANT WARNING! iiNet NBN

[Michael Hawkins]

Our iPrimus experience in Doubleview, about 200 m from the node, has been 
atrocious with download speeds of 0.10Mbps. Not at peak times, I hasten to add. 
That “speed” was a 5:56AM. After we complained the download speed went up to 
35.5Mbps but as I write this it is down to 11.0 with an upload speed of 0.91.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins



> On 18 Feb 2019, at 7:53 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> I have to add my endorsement for Telstra’s service as well, although I must 
> say up front that we were transitioning from Foxtel Cable to Foxtel NBN, so 
> there was very little to change in the way of infrastructure since they are 
> using essentially the same cable technology. Nonetheless, apart from a few 
> early teething problems, the move to NBN has been quite painless and well 
> supported. 
> 
>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 5:40 pm, Stephen Chape > <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> That has given me great confidence in the Telstra move to NBN.
>> Thank you Robin.
>> 
>> I moved reluctantly from Westnet to Telstra 9 years ago when I moved house.
>> I had been very satisfied with Westnet until I moved house.
>> But Westnet could not offer me high speed ADSL at the time and Telstra could.
>> Something to do with the local Phone Sub Station ?
>> In fact it was Westnet that suggested I should move to Telstra (which 
>> surprised me at the time).
>> 
>> Anyway I have had the most wonderful experience with Telstra since then.
>> I have rarely had to contact them with an issue.
>> But when I have they have been very helpful, quick and efficient.
>> 
>> On the other hand, my step daughter is with Westnet.
>> She has me as a contact on her Westnet account because she is not very “tech 
>> savvy”.
>> During the past couple of years I have had the most horrendous dealings with 
>> Westnet on her behalf.
>> I dread each time she has a Westnet issue and asks me to resolve it for her.
>> 
>> I have tried to talk her into going Telstra to make my life easier, but she 
>> is not keen on change.
>> 
>> I have to say I cannot speak highly enough of Telstra.
>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 5:09 pm, Robin Belford >> <mailto:rbelf...@highway1.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Switching to NBN - 
>>> Here in Busselton, after 24 years with Westnet, with the disconnection of 
>>> the analogue phone service imminent I signed up with Telstra for an NBN 
>>> internet service.
>>> This consolidated all our fixed and mobile phones and now our internet with 
>>> one provider. 
>>> (I did start with Westnet, but they were unable to give any coherent 
>>> service offerings or timings and I moved on.)
>>> The deal with Telstra was done in Dec 2017 and the change over date 
>>> scheduled for 19 Feb 2018. 
>>> The modem arrived in early-January and I immediately replaced my existing 
>>> ADSL modem with the new VDSL modem, configured it for my existing Westnet 
>>> account, and continued as usual.
>>> On the 19 Feb, as promised, NBN Co opened the node (big box on the curb) 
>>> around the corner and switched switched us over.
>>> Only later that day when I thought to check the speed did I realised that 
>>> we were now on the Telstra service using the NBN and getting 15 times the 
>>> previous download speed.
>>> In a word - seamless!
>>> It’s been working flawlessly ever since.
>>> That’s the country life for you.
>>> 
>>> ymmv.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Robin 
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:27 am, Susan Hastings >>> <mailto:susanhasti...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We had a fairly easy ride with Iinet side of things for the switch to NBN, 
>>>> any holdups were with NBNco. As we’ve been on for a year or more the pain 
>>>> of switchover is long forgotten. Iinet have also been reliable with phone 
>>>> support over the years. No complaints here.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Feb 2019, at 11:18 am, Peter Curtis >>>> <mailto:pe...@augold.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> We had to go on the NBN shortly and on my brother in law’s recommendation 
>>>>> I tried Aussie Broadband. The result has been fantastic! Cheaper, 
>>>>> guaranteed Australian call centre (which makes a huge difference being 
>>>>> older and deafer), constant updates of what is going on (whilst 
>>>>> connecting)

Re: Internet

[Michael Hawkins]

Dear Severin,

You’re only as old as you think you are .

Michael Hawkins

Sent from my iPhone 

> On 24 Jan 2019, at 9:37 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> I am using an ageing iPad2 mini with iOS 8.5
> With several sites I open the app and then get a " not connected to the 
> Internet" message which patently is not true.  
> Is this an age phenomenon and is there a workaround?  
> Severin Crisp
> 
> Sent from Sev's iPad
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Re: Apple Event - Apple Watch Series4 and new iPhones

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Daniel, I’ll work through both articles.

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone 

> On 14 Sep 2018, at 2:23 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael
> 
> As I don’t work for Apple, I can’t say.
> 
> Though I must say I don’t have an issue with mine. Mine is an Apple Watch 
> Series 1 and I find it lasts well over a day for me. I’ve had mine on all day 
> since 730am - used it for maps/navigation all day, replied to some texts on 
> it, got it to search for some things, checked a few emails and replied to 
> some emails and texts on it, and at 2.23am (i.e. now), it’s still got 41% 
> battery life left. And it’s tracked health and movement and a bit of exercise 
> (30mins) as well. And still not run out. (so that’s almost 19 hours roughly)
> Perhaps an app or something is using a lot of power?
> 
> These links may help,…
> https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-improve-apple-watch-battery-life/
> https://appleinsider.com/articles/17/02/22/how-to-make-your-apple-watch-battery-last-longer
> https://www.apple.com/au/batteries/maximizing-performance/
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
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> 
>> On 13 Sep 2018, at 2:16 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Any idea about when Apple will boost the battery life of the Watch Series 3? 
>> I have the Nike version and fully charged battery barely covered a 22 km 
>> round trip on a bike plus 1 hour lunch break.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
>> 
>>> On 13 Sep 2018, at 10:51 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> - As an “edit” to this,…apparently the ECG part for the Apple Watch Series 
>>> 4 will only be in the US once it’s released. 
>>> (Apparently probably to do with getting approval on it for other countries).
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>>> 
>>> ---
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>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
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>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>> From: Daniel Kerr 
>>>> Subject: Apple Event - Apple Watch Series4 and new iPhones
>>>> Date: 13 September 2018 at 3:20:24 am AWST
>>>> To: WAMUG 
>>>> 
>>>> As predicted, Apple released the following new items. 
>>>> (And they even knew about it before the keynote as apparently someone 
>>>> uploaded the xml file to the website too early, so it “leaked” before the 
>>>> event,….oops!).
>>>> 
>>>> New Apple Watch Series 4 - 
>>>> https://www.apple.com/au/apple-watch-series-4/
>>>> New sizes at 40mm and 44mm - better resolution watch face. Thinner body, 
>>>> ECG Reader, Fall Detection and more.
>>>> Starts from $599
>>>> Available order Sept 14th and delivery following Friday 21st
>>>> Apple Watch Series 3 still keep as a “cheaper” option - from $399
>>>> 
>>>> More info here - 
>>>> https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/12/apple-unveils-apple-watch-series-4/
>>>> 
>>>> Apple iPhone
>>>> iPhone Xs and Xs Max
>>>> https://www.apple.com/au/iphone-xs/
>>>> Comes in 64GB, 256GB and 512GB
>>>> Colours are Silver, Space Grey and Gold
>>>> From $1629 for the iPhone Xx (5.8” display) and From $1799 for the iPhone 
>>>> Xs Max (6.5” display).
>>>> Available order Sept 14th and delivery following Friday 21s

Re: Apple Event - Apple Watch Series4 and new iPhones

[Michael Hawkins]

Any idea about when Apple will boost the battery life of the Watch Series 3? I 
have the Nike version and fully charged battery barely covered a 22 km round 
trip on a bike plus 1 hour lunch break.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins

> On 13 Sep 2018, at 10:51 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> - As an “edit” to this,…apparently the ECG part for the Apple Watch Series 4 
> will only be in the US once it’s released. 
> (Apparently probably to do with getting approval on it for other countries).
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 7
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
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> Email: http://macwizardry.com.au/>>
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> 
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> 
> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
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> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Daniel Kerr > <mailto:wa...@macwizardry.com.au>>
>> Subject: Apple Event - Apple Watch Series4 and new iPhones
>> Date: 13 September 2018 at 3:20:24 am AWST
>> To: WAMUG mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>> 
>> As predicted, Apple released the following new items. 
>> (And they even knew about it before the keynote as apparently someone 
>> uploaded the xml file to the website too early, so it “leaked” before the 
>> event,….oops!).
>> 
>> New Apple Watch Series 4 - 
>> https://www.apple.com/au/apple-watch-series-4/ 
>> <https://www.apple.com/au/apple-watch-series-4/>
>> New sizes at 40mm and 44mm - better resolution watch face. Thinner body, ECG 
>> Reader, Fall Detection and more.
>> Starts from $599
>> Available order Sept 14th and delivery following Friday 21st
>> Apple Watch Series 3 still keep as a “cheaper” option - from $399
>> 
>> More info here - 
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/12/apple-unveils-apple-watch-series-4/
>> 
>> Apple iPhone
>> iPhone Xs and Xs Max
>> https://www.apple.com/au/iphone-xs/
>> Comes in 64GB, 256GB and 512GB
>> Colours are Silver, Space Grey and Gold
>> From $1629 for the iPhone Xx (5.8” display) and From $1799 for the iPhone Xs 
>> Max (6.5” display).
>> Available order Sept 14th and delivery following Friday 21st
>> 
>> iPhone Xr (sort of like the newer version of the iPhone 5c in a way).
>> https://www.apple.com/au/iphone-xr/
>> 6.1” display
>> Comes in 64GB, 128GB and 256GB
>> Colours are White, Black, Blue, Yellow, Coral and (Product)Red
>> From $1,229
>> Not available until later in October.
>> 
>> Compare Models here - 
>> https://www.apple.com/au/iphone/compare/
>> 
>> More info here - 
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/12/apple-announces-iphone-xs/
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2018/09/12/apple-discontinues-iphone-se-iphone-6s-iphone-x/
>> 
>> iOS 12 will be released on Monday September 17. (I’m assuming that will be 
>> Tuesday 18th Sept for us).
>> MacRumors run down on “all new in iOS12” - 
>> https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/ios-12/
>> 
>> macOS Mojave (macOS 10.14) is due for release on September 24th. (assuming 
>> 25th September for us).
>> 
>> You can watch the Keynote from here if you want to see the whole thing,…
>> https://www.apple.com/au/apple-events/september-2018/
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> (please excuse any spelling errors or mistakes which are due to it being 
>> late,….or early, depending on how you look at it,…lol)
>> 
>> ---
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>> MacWizardry
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Memory Increase.

[Michael Hawkins]

Hi Tony,

An increase in memory is well worth while, so too is replacing the hard drive 
with a solid state drive.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins

> On 23 Jul 2018, at 10:45 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis  
> wrote:
> 
> Good Morning to one and all
> 
> As my iMac 27” late 2011, is getting on a bit, would there be any benefit in 
> increasing the memory?? At present the Computer still holds the original 4GB 
> of memory, there are two additional slots available for a further 4GB, just 
> wondering.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Tony Francis
> 
> Boddington
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Re: Security Update 2018-001

[Michael Hawkins]

Dear Ronni,

Thank you for your reply. I do not remember deleting the folder I had which was 
called “Desktop Folders”, but all sorts of wierd and troubling things happened 
when I first tried to installl the security update and tried to update the 
operating system as well, a few weeks ago. Suffice to say I had to wipe the 
hard drive clean and start from scratch a couple of times. Fortunately I had 
made a backup. That debacle was followed shortly after by the update which, as 
I recall it, reorganized the file structure. I had a few days trying to cope 
with what I started calling the black screen of death which emerged about 80% 
of the way through the process of restarting. I worked through the alternatives 
such as safe boot, but ended up having to do a SMC reset.

I’ve been away a for a couple of weeks. Now that I’m home I’ll pluck up the 
courage to instal the Security update for the 4th time.

Cheers,

Michael.

> On 21 May 2018, at 5:02 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> I am still having trouble not receiving WAMUG mailing list messages, so I’ve 
> copied & pasted your message below, so I can answer.
> 
> Have you moved the original ‘Desktop Folders’ that you created? 
> Have you deleted the original ‘Desktop Folders’?
> 
> The Dock just holds aliases to real files, folders, and applications. There 
> is nothing real in the Dock, it just acts like it is. 
> All of the items in the Dock point back to some real item in the file system. 
> They are just shortcuts to the originals. 
> When you open a folder from the Dock, it opens the original folder.
> 
> Add an item to the Dock: Drag it to the Dock.
> You Place apps to the left of the separator line, and files and folders to 
> the right of the separator line.
> 
> Re: The Security Update 2018-001, I experienced it staying in Updates 
> available until I clicked on it and installed again, as there was another 
> version of that same file released a few days later. I suggest you click on 
> it and install again.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
> 
> Michael Hawkins 
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=wamug@wamug.org.au=from:%22Michael+Hawkins%22>
>  Sun, 20 May 2018 21:56:32 -0700 
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=wamug@wamug.org.au=date:20180520>
> Security update 2018-001 was installed on my MacBook Pro on the 3rd May. The 
> computer has been turned off and started a number of times since then, but 
> despite that I keep receiving a mesage that updates are available. Each 
> supposed update is identified as being Security update 2018-001.
> One thing I noticed after the update was finally installed was that the icon 
> in 
> the Dock for Desktop Folders ahs ben replaced by a large ? symbol (as in 
> question mark symbol). When the cursor is hovered over the ? symbole, the 
> label 
> “Desktop Folders” appears. No folders appear though, when I click on the ? 
> symbol.
> 
> Other than that, I have not had any trouble using the computer, but I wonder 
> why the message that an update is available keeps getting sent.
> 
> High Sierra version 10.13.4
> MacBook Pro (17 inch late 2011, solid state hard drive)
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Michael Hawkins
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Security Update 2018-001

[Michael Hawkins]

Security update 2018-001 was installed on my MacBook Pro on the 3rd May. The 
computer has been turned off and started a number of times since then, but 
despite that I keep receiving a mesage that updates are available. Each 
supposed update is identified as being Security update 2018-001.

One thing I noticed after the update was finally installed was that the icon in 
the Dock for Desktop Folders ahs ben replaced by a large ? symbol (as in 
question mark symbol). When the cursor is hovered over the ? symbole, the label 
“Desktop Folders” appears. No folders appear though, when I click on the ? 
symbol.

Other than that, I have not had any trouble using the computer, but I wonder 
why the message that an update is available keeps getting sent.

High Sierra version 10.13.4
MacBook Pro (17 inch late 2011, solid state hard drive)

Thank you

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Re: Apple Watch Series and Roaming

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Tim,

I checked with Telstra yesterday. Roaming charges would apply and Telstra has 
such a small daily allowance (200mb) I’ve decided not to take the watch with me.

Cheers,

Michael

> On 2 May 2018, at 7:10 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
> 
> My error Michael
> 
> The series 111 does have a SIM
> 
> I believe my advice re checking the Telstra site for overseas roaming charges 
> is still relevant. 
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
>> On 2 May 2018, at 7:05 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Michael
>> 
>> I suspect the Apple Watch does not have its own SIM card and connects via 
>> Bluetooth to the phone to do stuff with the outside world. Much like 
>> connecting your phone to the Bentley. 
>> 
>> Therefore it will make no difference where in the world you are as long as 
>> the phone and watch are close enough for the Bluetooth to connect. They will 
>> talk to each other. 
>> 
>> If you want to know if your Telstra SIM in your phone will work in New 
>> Zealand, also by default the watch functioning as you expect, then the best 
>> option is to read up on overseas roaming on the Telstra website as costs can 
>> be substantial. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 May 2018, at 2:31 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I recently bought a series 3 Apple Watch (cellular + GPS). My mobile phone 
>>> contract is with Telstra. I intend travelling in NZ. Will I be able to link 
>>> the watch with my phone while roaming there?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Apple Watch Series and Roaming

[Michael Hawkins]

I recently bought a series 3 Apple Watch (cellular + GPS). My mobile phone 
contract is with Telstra. I intend travelling in NZ. Will I be able to link the 
watch with my phone while roaming there?

Cheers,

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Re: Changing ISP and porting email address

[Michael Hawkins]

Diana,

Having experienced NBN at snail pace night after night (we’re in Doubleview on 
copper just over 200 metres from the node) (and it’s even slower during school 
holidays) I suggest you get a large download allowance on your mobile plan as 
you may find that using the personal hotspot on your iPhone is far faster than 
using NBN.

Cheers,

Michael

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:05 pm, Diana & Graham Stevens  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Daniel & Neil
> 
> The girl at Telstra told me I could port email addresses and they allowed 2 
> free email accounts. I couldn’t see how it would work, takeovers are 
> different, all the addresses move. I was extremely stressed at the time and 
> she offered us a deal that sounded good, cheaper than our combined iiNet & 
> Telstra accounts. I said we would think about it. After a coffee I realised 
> she hadn’t given us any details, went back and asked her to email the details.
> 
> When I checked our present usage I realised the new plan did not have nearly 
> enough volume especially as we are using streaming services more these days.
> 
> I had gone there to ask how much it would cost to unlock my prepaid Telstra 
> phone. The  iiNet salesman had told me it would not need to be unlocked, just 
> one of his lies. I was told the amount depended on how long I had been using 
> it, which was hardly at all. She then went on to talk about something else 
> and I forgot to get the price.
> 
> Today I rang Telstra and the girl unlocked it for nothing (I hope, haven’t 
> tried yet). Tomorrow I shall install my iiNet SIM with my Vodaphone number 
> (closing 2G network so my 18 year old Nokia has been pensioned off). 
> 
> We shall stay with iiNet, I already have a SIM for Graham’s Telstra number 
> but can’t activate it until we get NBN (12 Jun according to Telstra) because 
> of special deal on landlines. Have to find out if I can move Telstra phone 
> number to our VoIP phone.
> 
> My main worry is problems with the NBN transition, we’re getting fibre to 
> curb (yank spelling of kerb!) and being unable to understand what they say.
> 
> Thanks again and best wishes from Diana 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:51 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel, Hi Diana,
>> 
>> I've been with Internode ever since I moved from Bigpond dial-up to ADSL 
>> broadband back in 2007.
>> 
>> I must admit I was worried when Internode was bought by iiNet and then iiNet 
>> was bought by TPG - however, I continue to be impressed by their service. Of 
>> course with a good reliable internet provider it is rare for me to actually 
>> NEED the support but I had cause just over a week ago when my internet 
>> connection just stopped working.
>> 
>> I got to talk to an intelligent support person and we got to methodically 
>> work through the problem and agree that since my phone connection was 
>> working and we had ADSL sync OK but no PPP sign -in, and I could duplicate 
>> this problem on two different modems, that there must be a fault on 
>> Internode's end. The fault was logged and I was given a ticket reference in 
>> case I needed to follow up. As it was the fault was fixed (or fixed itself) 
>> several hours later and all was back to normal.
>> 
>> As I say, it is not often I need to deal with them but, when I do, they have 
>> been unfailingly helpful - whether it has been changing plans/services, 
>> changing billing methods or technical problems - I get to deal with 
>> pleasant, efficient and informed personnel.
>> 
>> Just my 2c worth - I am all too happy to complain about the frequent poor 
>> service I find nowadays so it is nice to be able to also report on really 
>> good customer service when I get it ;o)
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> 
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> 
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> 
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From:  on behalf of Daniel 
>> Kerr 
>> Reply-To: WAMUG 
>> Date: Sunday, 15 April 2018 at 18:12
>> To: WAMUG 
>> Subject: Re: Changing ISP and porting email address
>> 
>>   Hi Diana
>> 
>>   You can’t really “port” an email address to another ISP. When you change 
>> ISP’s you will get a new one.
>>   With iinet, you can pay them $25 per year per email address to “keep” 
>> those email addresses. So if you have 2 email addresses you want to keep, 
>> then you’d be paying them $50 per year to keep the iinet address.
>>   But Telstra can’t take those email addresses to them. They can only stay 
>> with iinet.
>>   So you’d either need to keep the addresses for a year or so, and tell 
>> people your “new” email addresses, or carry on paying every year to iinet 
>> for them. This is why some people a) stick with their ISP to keep their 
>> email address or b) go for a “non-ISP” address (e.g. iCloud.com or 
>> gmail.com, hotmail 

Re: MacKeeper - Uninstall MacKeeper & make sure you delete every file it installs!!

[Michael Hawkins]

Good evening Ronni,

Thank goodness I mentioned MacKeeper in an email that had nothing at all to 
with applications of its ilk. I’ve worked my way through in all the steps A and 
B in your email, I founD MacKeeper items in each folder you mentioned, other 
than LaunchDaemons.

Now to work my way through C. The MacBook Pro OS is High Sierra 10.13.4.

Thank you very much indeed,

Michael

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 1:05 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael, and WAMUG mailing list members,
> 
> I’ve changed the Subject as this has nothing to do with the original thread.
> This is the updated recommended way to uninstall MacKeeper & every file it 
> installs!
> 
> I strongly recommend you download and install Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware for 
> Mac <https://www.malwarebytes.com/mac/> and have it check your system, as I 
> would be surprised if you have manually found all the files MacKeeper spreads 
> around the operating system.
> Note: Download the Malwarebytes FREE  & and make sure it’s the Mac version 
> not Windows.  https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/ 
> <https://www.malwarebytes.com/pricing/mac/>
> 
> A) If you choose to install Malwarebytes, launch it and do this:
> Click the Scan button.
> In the sheet that appears, check the box for any software that you would like 
> to delete and click Confirm. (PUP stands for Potentially Unwanted Program.)
> 
>   3.  Once the process is finished, restart your Mac.
> 
> B)The Manual Way
> Even Malwarebytes may not get all of MacKeeper's supporting files. You should 
> take a look in the Library folder in your home directory to make sure they're 
> all gone. Here's where and how to find them.
> 
> In the Finder's Go menu, choose Go to Folder
> In the dialog box that appears, type ~/Library and click Go. This will open 
> the Library folder which is normally hidden by default in your home directory.
> If you find a folder named MacKeeper Backups, drag it to the Trash.
> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Application Support folder. 
> If you find any files or folders with MacKeeper in its name, drag them to the 
> Trash.
> 
> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Caches folder. If you find 
> files named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper, com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper, or any 
> other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
> Scroll through your Library folder and open the LaunchAgents folder. If you 
> find a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.Helper.plist, or any other files or 
> folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the Trash.
> Your Library folder may contain a folder named LaunchDaemons. If you find 
> inside it a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.plugin.AntiTheft.daemon.plist 
> or any other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the 
> Trash.
> Scroll through your Library folder and open the Preferences folder. If you 
> find inside it a file named com.mackeeper.MacKeeper.AdwareAnalyzer.plist or 
> any other files or folders with MacKeeper in their name, drag them to the 
> Trash.
> From the Finder menu, choose Empty Trash... and Empty the Trash if prompted.
> C). If the hits just keep on coming'...
> 
> Sometimes installing MacKeeper will result in Safari extensions and cookies 
> also being installed...and the prodding to install MacKeeper—as well as other 
> ads—may keep appearing. The latest version of macOS contains a built-in tool 
> that will remove known unwanted adware and malware when you restart your Mac. 
> So try that first. If that doesn't work, here's what to do.
> 
> From the Apple menu, choose Force Quit
> In the window that appears, select Safari and click Force Quit.
> Relaunch Safari while holding down the Shift key on the keyboard. This will 
> prevent any windows that were open when you force quit Safari from reopening.
> From the Safari menu, choose Preferences.
> Click Extensions.
> In the list that appears, select any extensions that you don't recognize and 
> click Uninstall for each of them.
> Click Privacy.
> Click Manage Website Data.
> In the sheet that appears, enter MacKeeper in the Search box to show any data 
> related to MacKeeper and click Remove All.
> 
> When you have finished, restart your Mac.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Ronni 
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 13 Apr 2018, at 11:12 am, Michael Hawkins 
> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ronni.
>> 
>> I shutdown, started in Safe mode, searched for MacKeeper and removed every 
>> trace I could find of it. Looked in places like Preferences as well.
>> 
>

Re: Internet speed test

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni.

I shutdown, started in Safe mode, searched for MacKeeper and removed every 
trace I could find of it. Looked in places like Preferences as well.

Cheers,

Michael

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 9:36 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> ALERT to Michael... DON’T install MacKeeper!!!
> Do a search on our WAMUG mailing list archives to see all the reasons why?
> 
> Regards,
> Ronni  
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
> 
> On 13 Apr 2018, at 9:22 am, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Don’t be envious, Rob. I’m on NBN, 200m from the node in Doubleview in what 
>> formerly was a Homeswest area, and download of MacKeeper just now was 
>> 250kbs.  Speedtest reported 10.86MBS immediately before I downloaded 
>> MacKeeper, and Speedof me reported 12.1MBS.
>> 
>> Our internet speeds on NBN are a fraction of what I get using my iPhone as a 
>> personal hotspot.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 8:28 am, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:r.phill...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You're making me envious. I'm getting 1Mb/s down and 0.5 Mb/s up.  NBN not 
>>> due til end on 2019. But at least it wil be fibre to the Jerb.
>>> 
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> On 13/4/18 8:03 am, Tim Law wrote:
>>>> That’s interesting Peter,
>>>> 
>>>> For me, the Google internet speed test shows about half that of Speedtest 
>>>> and speedof.me <http://speedof.me/>
>>>> 
>>>> 60 down for Speedtest/30 down for Google
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 7:36 am, Peter Faulks <peterfau...@westnet.com.au 
>>>>> <mailto:peterfau...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone recommend a reliable Internet speed test, I have just moved 
>>>>> to NBN and on 3 sites get different readings within a minute.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Test 1speed.me <http://speed.me/>  = Down 32.92 Mbps Up 15.82
>>>>> Test 2  http://www.speedtest.net/results 
>>>>> <http://www.speedtest.net/results> = Down 34.67 Mbps Up 14.68
>>>>> Test 3  Google Internet speed test = Down 9.48 Mbps Up 8.18
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter Faulks
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>>>>> Unit 1, 9 Newsam Close
>>>>> PARKWOOD  Western Australia  6147
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>>>>> Irene Mobile: 0439 933 404
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Re: Internet speed test

[Michael Hawkins]

Don’t be envious, Rob. I’m on NBN, 200m from the node in Doubleview in what 
formerly was a Homeswest area, and download of MacKeeper just now was 250kbs.  
Speedtest reported 10.86MBS immediately before I downloaded MacKeeper, and 
Speedof me reported 12.1MBS.

Our internet speeds on NBN are a fraction of what I get using my iPhone as a 
personal hotspot.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins

> On 13 Apr 2018, at 8:28 am, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> You're making me envious. I'm getting 1Mb/s down and 0.5 Mb/s up.  NBN not 
> due til end on 2019. But at least it wil be fibre to the Jerb.
> 
> Rob
> 
> On 13/4/18 8:03 am, Tim Law wrote:
>> That’s interesting Peter,
>> 
>> For me, the Google internet speed test shows about half that of Speedtest 
>> and speedof.me <http://speedof.me/>
>> 
>> 60 down for Speedtest/30 down for Google
>> 
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Apr 2018, at 7:36 am, Peter Faulks <peterfau...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:peterfau...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can someone recommend a reliable Internet speed test, I have just moved to 
>>> NBN and on 3 sites get different readings within a minute.
>>> 
>>> Test 1speed.me <http://speed.me/>  = Down 32.92 Mbps Up 15.82
>>> Test 2  http://www.speedtest.net/results <http://www.speedtest.net/results> 
>>> = Down 34.67 Mbps Up 14.68
>>> Test 3  Google Internet speed test = Down 9.48 Mbps Up 8.18
>>> 
>>> Peter Faulks
>>> -- 
>>> Peter & Irene Faulks
>>> Unit 1, 9 Newsam Close
>>> PARKWOOD  Western Australia  6147
>>> 
>>> Phone:  +618 9457 0747 (h)
>>> Fax:+618 9457 0444
>>> Peter Mobile:   0416 187 937
>>> Irene Mobile:   0439 933 404
>>> 
>>> Email:  peterfau...@westnet.com.au <mailto:peterfau...@westnet.com.au>
>>> Web Page:  http://www.peterfaulks.net/ <http://www.peterfaulks.net/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: WAMUG AGM: next Tuesday 3 April 2018

[Michael Hawkins]

Good morning Pete,

Where abouts in South Perth are the meetings held?

Regards,

Michael Hawkins

> On 2 Apr 2018, at 11:35 pm, Pete Smith <smudd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Tony.
> 
> Distance certainly makes it a tad difficult. A lot of our members are from 
> the far flung parts of the State and I’m sure a lot would help out if they 
> could.
> 
> Hopefully, you can get to a meeting or two during the year and we’ll look 
> forward to seeing you there if you can.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete Smith
> 
>> On 30 Mar 2018, at 08:26, Anthony (Tony) Francis <antne...@mac.com 
>> <mailto:antne...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter and the WAMUG group. Unfortunately due to my working hours and the 
>> distance to travel I would be unable to assist. 
>> Hopefully I can attend some of the meetings throughout this year. School 
>> Holidays would be my best chance.
>> I wish you all the best in keeping WAMUG alive. I have been well rewarded by 
>> receiving help when required, money well spent.
>> Kindest regards
>> 
>> Tony Francis
>> Boddington.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 28 Mar 2018, at 01:04, WAMUG Annoucement <annou...@wamug.org.au 
>> <mailto:annou...@wamug.org.au>> wrote:
>> 
>>> G’day all WAMUGGERS.
>>> 
>>> Time is passing quickly and if you have been as busy as I have been, it's 
>>> been going past at an alarming rate: which is why this email is a tad late 
>>> in the scheme of things and I apologise for that.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, next Tuesday, 3 April 2018 is the Annual General meeting of WAMUG.
>>> 
>>> Nominations for committee members.
>>> 
>>> As I said in the last monthly meeting announcement, we are asking for 
>>> people to consider coming onto the committee to provide some fresh blood 
>>> and ideas. It is not arduous and, although there is a committee meeting 
>>> every month, it’s OK if you miss some. In fact, if you can only make every 
>>> second meeting that would be OK.
>>> 
>>> WAMUG really needs your help so please consider giving a little bit of your 
>>> time every month or other month. The committee meetings are held on the 
>>> third Tuesday of every month at 7.30pm in South Perth. They don’t take long.
>>> 
>>> All the seats on the committee are up for grabs. They are: President, Vice 
>>> President, Secretary and Treasurer (the named positions) and general 
>>> committee members.
>>> 
>>> If you would like to nominate, please send your name to me, Pete Smith, c/ 
>>> members...@wamug.org.au <mailto:members...@wamug.org.au> . Tell me which 
>>> position you would like to nominate for. The four named positions are voted 
>>> in individually whilst, unless there are an excessive number of 
>>> nominations, the general committee members are voted in en masse.
>>> 
>>> It is important that the President and Treasurer positions are filled.
>>> 
>>> Voting.
>>> 
>>> Voting can be done in a couple of ways. Firstly, by attendance at the AGM. 
>>> Secondly, by postal votes. The same as what occurred last year will happen. 
>>> Financial members will receive an email with a link to click which will 
>>> take them to where they can cast their votes. This email will be sent out 
>>> on Sunday night, 1 April 2018.
>>> 
>>> Financial Members.
>>> 
>>> Only current financial members are eligible to vote. Memberships are due at 
>>> the beginning of each year so, hopefully, you have all renewed your 
>>> memberships. If you haven’t, you have a limited time to do so. Any 
>>> non-financial members will have their ability to post to the list removed 
>>> this Sunday also.
>>> 
>>> If you can’t post to the list, you can’t vote either.
>>> 
>>> Please do consider helping out and offer a bit of your time as a committee 
>>> member to keep WAMUG going on strong.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Pete Smith
>>> 
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Re: U Tube video

[Michael Hawkins]

Good morning and thank you Ronni,

I hadn’t realised that Extensions were listed under preferences in addition to 
being displayed under the heading “Safari Extensions” which is immediately 
above “Preferences” in the menu list.

Cheers,

Michael

> On 23 Mar 2018, at 10:15 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> If you have ‘ClicktoFlash installed, it will be in Safari Extensions.
> Go to Safari menu and choose Preferences - Then go to Extensions
> you’ll see all of your currently-installed Safari extensions.
> 
> To delete them, simply select the particular extension you want to get rid of 
> and click Uninstall.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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> 
> 
> On 23 Mar 2018, at 9:54 pm, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Very frequently when I attempt to watch a video in Safari, I get the message 
>> "Your browser does not currently recognise any of the video formats 
>> available. Click here to visit our frequently asked questions about HTML5 
>> video “.
>> 
>> I have searched for but have not found the “ClicktoFlash” extension. It does 
>> not appear to be saved or installed anywhere on my computer.
>> 
>> Computer is running High Sierra version 10.13.3. 
>> 
>> Safari is version 11.0.3…Any (and every) suggestion wil be gratefully 
>> received.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Sep 2017, at 6:42 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> High Sierra version 11.
>>> Hi Graeme and Rob,
>>> 
>>> If you have ‘ClickToFlash’ Safari extension installed - Delete 
>>> ‘ClickToFlash’ and restart your computer.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
>>> 
>>> On 22 Sep 2017, at 11:05 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au 
>>> <mailto:r.phill...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have experienced the same. I did some searching, but didn't find any 
>>>> good answers. Using a different browser helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Ideas from others?
>>>> 
>>>> Rob
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/9/17 5:48 pm, Graeme Winters wrote:
>>>>> Sorry my earlier email contained an image which should not have been 
>>>>> sent. Content now shown below
>>>>> I would like some assistance and guidance on the following
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I created a video last year and posted this onto Utube  and now find that 
>>>>> I am unable to open this and instead receive the message as follows
>>>>> 
>>>>> “ Your browser does not currently recognise any of the video formats 
>>>>> available. Click here to visit our frequently asked questions about HTML5 
>>>>> video "
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> However I have downloaded Chrome and when I searched for this same video 
>>>>> I was able to watch it in full. It is about 24 minutes long but I cannot 
>>>>> watch this using Safari
>>>>> 
>>>>> The video is simply a collection of photographs taken some 60 years ago 
>>>>> and was a useful reminder at our Reunions
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am using an IMac 27  and Sierra 10.12.6
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any thoughts
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graeme Winters
>>>>> g.winters1...@gmail.com <mailto:g.winters1...@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> >
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Re: U Tube video

[Michael Hawkins]

Very frequently when I attempt to watch a video in Safari, I get the message 
"Your browser does not currently recognise any of the video formats available. 
Click here to visit our frequently asked questions about HTML5 video “.

I have searched for but have not found the “ClicktoFlash” extension. It does 
not appear to be saved or installed anywhere on my computer.

Computer is running High Sierra version 10.13.3. 

Safari is version 11.0.3…Any (and every) suggestion wil be gratefully received.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins


> On 23 Sep 2017, at 6:42 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> High Sierra version 11.
> Hi Graeme and Rob,
> 
> If you have ‘ClickToFlash’ Safari extension installed - Delete ‘ClickToFlash’ 
> and restart your computer.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
> 
> On 22 Sep 2017, at 11:05 pm, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au 
> <mailto:r.phill...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
> 
>> I have experienced the same. I did some searching, but didn't find any good 
>> answers. Using a different browser helps.
>> 
>> Ideas from others?
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> On 22/9/17 5:48 pm, Graeme Winters wrote:
>>> Sorry my earlier email contained an image which should not have been sent. 
>>> Content now shown below
>>> I would like some assistance and guidance on the following
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I created a video last year and posted this onto Utube  and now find that I 
>>> am unable to open this and instead receive the message as follows
>>> 
>>> “ Your browser does not currently recognise any of the video formats 
>>> available. Click here to visit our frequently asked questions about HTML5 
>>> video "
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However I have downloaded Chrome and when I searched for this same video I 
>>> was able to watch it in full. It is about 24 minutes long but I cannot 
>>> watch this using Safari
>>> 
>>> The video is simply a collection of photographs taken some 60 years ago and 
>>> was a useful reminder at our Reunions
>>> 
>>> I am using an IMac 27  and Sierra 10.12.6
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts
>>> 
>>> Graeme Winters
>>> g.winters1...@gmail.com <mailto:g.winters1...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Keyboard

[Michael Hawkins]

I have a MacBook Pro (17-inch, Late 2011) running High Sierra version 10.13.2.

From time to time this morning the letter e appears on the screen instead of 
the letter i, when typing in Pages.

Could this indicate a need to clean the keys?

Cheers,

Michael.

> On 10 Jan 2018, at 7:07 pm, Julie Bedford  wrote:
> 
> I am very tempted to try this.  I spilt a cup of tea on my keyboard, after it 
> dried out, it does still function, but not so promptly sometimes.
> I have a back up keyboard, so it wouldn’t be a great loss if it did go caput. 
> Just checking that you were serious in giving these instructions robin.
> It would be just plain water then?
> 
> Thanks
> jewels
>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 5:27 PM, Severin Crisp > > wrote:
>> 
>> Great stuff but not for my iMac Wireless keyboard!
>> Severin
>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 16:54, Robin Belford >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Back in the day it wasn’t uncommon to put them in the dishwasher. The “Day” 
>>> was when the keyboard was the Apple Extended Keyboard II (ADB).
>>> SO, if you’re game here are some basic instructions.
>>> 
>>> Make sure you've got a spare keyboard. You must wait at least a week (7 
>>> days) before the keyboard can be used again after it's been washed, 
>>> therefore unless you do not plan on using your computer for a week you'll 
>>> need a spare.
>>> Do not use any dish soap.
>>> If your dishwasher has multiple settings, make sure it's a rinse only. Do 
>>> not use a heavy wash, pots, and pan setting, or any heated drying settings. 
>>> Any extensive heat will destroy the keyboard.
>>> Wash the keyboard on the top rack only.
>>> Do not put anything else in the dishwasher except the keyboard.
>>> Only try this if your computer keyboard is plastic.
>>> If you want a more extensive clean under the keys remove each of the keys 
>>> and wash just the keyboard.
>>> After the keyboard has been washed, shake it to allow excessive water to 
>>> drain out. Then tip the keyboard upside down so it is laying on the keys, 
>>> and let the keyboard dry for seven days.
>>> 
 On 10 Jan 2018, at 2:12 pm, Ronda Brown > wrote:
 
 Hi Tim... disconnect the keyboard from the iMac first ;-)
 
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 On 10 Jan 2018, at 12:54 pm, Tim Law > wrote:
 
> I’ve just gone through this interesting exercise with a wired Apple 
> keyboard
> 
> First, take a picture of the keyboard so you can refer to it when you’re 
> replacing the keys. And also so you can proudly reflect on your cleaning 
> prowess. 
> 
> The safest thing is to not wipe the keys just yet, simply flick them out 
> one by one. Once the first comes out you’ll figure out the right force 
> and angle, but a small finger placed under the edge of an exposed key and 
> flicked up to release the clip is the best action I can describe. You may 
> need a spodger to get the first one, a plastic stick. 
> 
> Once all the keys are off, they can be washed in a bowl of cleaning 
> liquid and water, rinsed and dried
> 
> The exposed base can be wiped clean and the various biscuits you’ll deny 
> ever eating, must have been the cat, can be cleaned up. 
> 
> Then it’s a matter of clicking the clean dry keys back in place, using 
> the photo as a guide. 
> 
> I used an overly damp wipe to start with and found excess liquid has 
> seeped into the electronic components so the keyboard failed. 
> 
> This led me to dismantling it entirely and drying the three layers of 
> printed circuit that perform the switching function of the keyboard. 
> There are little soft plastic cones that give the soft touch we enjoy. 
> They fall onto the floor and hide behind chair legs, so some agility may 
> be required to rescue them. Rest assured They don’t fall out unless you 
> dismantle the electronics. Once resembled twice, I first put the cones in 
> the wrong way, my keyboard is clean and functional and has passed the 
> most stringent assessment of my wife. 
> 
> I hope this helps
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
> On 10 Jan 2018, at 11:46 am, Severin Crisp  > wrote:
> 
>> My iMac keyboard is disgracefully dirty and I find it very difficult to 
>> keep it clean.  I am meticulous about no cups of coffee or the like 
>> within range.  
>> Advice appreciated on  1) getting it respectable again   and 2) keeping 
>> it that way
>> Many thanks
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>> 
>>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, 

Re: Find iPhone

[Michael Hawkins]

Thank you all. The phone I lost then found is an SE, purchased recently to 
replace my beloved iPhone 6 which disappeared during a trip to Bunnings to buy 
wood chips for mulch which, as it turned out, weren’t needed but that’s a 
different story. The lessons for me from the Bunnings Episode were always make 
sure the phone has a decent amount of charge in it before stepping out the 
door, and always make sure the phone is nestled deep within your pocket - I 
think mine popped out when I was hefting bags of woodchip mulch.

I have to admit that the SE has been great. It is more compact and seems in 
some ways more powerful than the 6 was.

Cheers,

Michael.

> On 5 Jan 2018, at 2:52 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis <antne...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Congratulations Michael, a good outcome.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 5 Jan 2018, at 13:49, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> I found my missing iPhone SE in a storage locker which is below ground level 
>> in a three story concrete building a tad over 4km away from where Apple’s 
>> find my iphone app reported the phone to be. As you may recall, the app 
>> identified the middle of the neighbour’s lawn as being where the phone was. 
>> I had never set foot on the property until I went looking for the phone, so 
>> do not understand why the app said it was there. And given that I have the 
>> keys to the storage locker, the phone can not have been left there by 
>> anybody other than me.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Michael.
>> 
>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 3:16 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I recently lost an iPhone, and used Find my iPhone to try and find it.
>>> 
>>> According to the spot on the map, the iPhone was in the middle of the 
>>> closely mown lawn in the neighbour’s front yard across the street. We 
>>> couldn’t find the iPhone nor could we hear any sound from it, nor could we 
>>> hear it ring when we rang it.
>>> 
>>> I used f”ind my iPhone” on three different devices over the next three 
>>> days, from a variety of locations up to 20 km away from the neighbour’s 
>>> place. The result was identical on each of them, the location my missing 
>>> phone less than “1 minute ago” as being in the middle of the front lawn.
>>> 
>>> The battery has now gone flat, but just in case someone recharges the 
>>> battery and turns the phone on, I’d like to know what to do if, yet again, 
>>> the iPhone is reported as being in the middle of the yard. Or what I could 
>>> have done.
>>> 
>>> Each device I used was using the latest iOS.
>>> 
>>> Happy New Year
>>> 
>>> Michael
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Re: Find iPhone

[Michael Hawkins]

Dear All,

I found my missing iPhone SE in a storage locker which is below ground level in 
a three story concrete building a tad over 4km away from where Apple’s find my 
iphone app reported the phone to be. As you may recall, the app identified the 
middle of the neighbour’s lawn as being where the phone was. I had never set 
foot on the property until I went looking for the phone, so do not understand 
why the app said it was there. And given that I have the keys to the storage 
locker, the phone can not have been left there by anybody other than me.

Cheers

Michael.

> On 31 Dec 2017, at 3:16 pm, Michael Hawkins 
> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I recently lost an iPhone, and used Find my iPhone to try and find it.
> 
> According to the spot on the map, the iPhone was in the middle of the closely 
> mown lawn in the neighbour’s front yard across the street. We couldn’t find 
> the iPhone nor could we hear any sound from it, nor could we hear it ring 
> when we rang it.
> 
> I used f”ind my iPhone” on three different devices over the next three days, 
> from a variety of locations up to 20 km away from the neighbour’s place. The 
> result was identical on each of them, the location my missing phone less than 
> “1 minute ago” as being in the middle of the front lawn.
> 
> The battery has now gone flat, but just in case someone recharges the battery 
> and turns the phone on, I’d like to know what to do if, yet again, the iPhone 
> is reported as being in the middle of the yard. Or what I could have done.
> 
> Each device I used was using the latest iOS.
> 
> Happy New Year
> 
> Michael
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Re: Find iPhone

[Michael Hawkins]

Happy New Year to you too, Ronni.

The answer is “Yes” to each question. I live in hope.

Cheers,

Michael.

> On 1 Jan 2018, at 1:28 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Happy New Year Michael,
> 
>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 9:34 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Happy New Year Ronni,
>> 
>> Over the three days that the battery lasted, I had tried, a number of times, 
>> each of the steps recommended by you and as recommended in the other links. 
>> Each and every time the location was identifed as being the location where 
>> the phone was less than a minute ago.
> 
> 
> 1. You definitely put your iPhone device in ‘Lost Mode’ as soon as you 
> noticed it missing & still had power and you could see where it was (on next 
> door neighbour’s front lawn?
>  
> 2. When in Lost Mode did you enter a phone number you can be reached at if 
> found, and a message?
> 
> 3. If the device was recently online, you see the time it was last located. 
> If the device has been offline for over 24 hours, you see “Offline.” and a 
> Grey Dot.
> 
> If your missing device is off or offline, you can still put it in Lost Mode 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2700>, lock it 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2700>, or remotely erase it 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2701>. The next time your device is online, 
> these actions will take effect. 
> If you remove the device from your account 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/PH2702> while it's offline, any pending actions 
> for the device are canceled.
> 
> 4. Did you Select “Notify me when found” to get an email when it comes online?
> 
> If so when the person who has ‘found/stolen’ your iPhone connects it to power 
> and online you should be notified.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
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> 
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Re: Find iPhone

[Michael Hawkins]

Happy New Year Ronni,

Over the three days that the battery lasted, I had tried, a number of times, 
each of the steps recommended by you and as recommended in the other links. 
Each and every time the location was identifed as being the location where the 
phone was less than a minute ago.

A colleague has just sent me a reply in which he recounts how a phone which was 
broadcasting its location as being in an address in Pier Street was actually in 
a court room some distance away from that address and was recovered because the 
incessant ringing of the phone annoyed the judge enough for him to tell one of 
the ushers to answer the phone. Sadly, my phone wasn’t answered by any one, 
annoyed or otherwise.

C’est la vie

During the hunt I learnt a valuable lesson, and that is to buy a case which 
incorporates a magnet in the catch. I made the msitake of leaving my wife’s 
iphone on the roof of my car while I drove off to a different location to see 
if my phone was hidden somewhere in my car. It wasn’t, but I was rather 
surprised (and relieved) to find my wife’s phoone sitting on the car roof when 
I got home after I’d driven up and down a number of hills and gone around a 
number of corners :))

Cheers,

Michael.


> On 31 Dec 2017, at 8:51 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> After more than 24 has passed since the last location was sent to Apple (if 
> Send Last Location is turned on). It does look like someone has picked the 
> iPhone up from the neighbour’s front lawn.
> 
> Sometimes when an iOS device goes missing, Find My iPhone helps to locate and 
> recover the device. Ideally, the battery on the lost iPhone has enough juice 
> for iCloud to track the location live.
> In some cases, the lost device has a dead battery or is simply turned off. So 
> does Find My iPhone still work? Live tracking will not work, but Find My 
> iPhone may still be able to lead you to your missing phone by showing you its 
> last known location. 
> 
> Instead of a green circle on a map identifying the iPhone's current location, 
> the last known location of the iOS device will be displayed by a grey circle. 
> Clicking the grey circle, then clicking the information icon (i) will provide 
> more details, including the last time the device was seen at this location. 
> Unless the lost device is plugged in to charge, the current location cannot 
> be found.
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204233 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204233>
> https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iphone/how-find-lost-iphone-ipad-even-if-battery-has-died-3612189/
>  
> <https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iphone/how-find-lost-iphone-ipad-even-if-battery-has-died-3612189/>
> I’ve got to get back to New Years Eve celebrations now 壟
> 
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 31 Dec 2017, at 8:32 pm, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Ronni,
>> 
>> I had taken each of the steps suggested by you Ronni. The problem is that 
>> the iPhone is not where it says it is.
>> I’m wondering if there is a hack which enables who ever hacks the phone to 
>> make it appear it is somewhere other than where “Find my iPhone” says it is.
>> 
>> I’ve gone back to an iPhone 4 pending the recovery of the newer model which 
>> I had had for 2 days.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 3:59 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Michael,
>>> 
>>> My comments in Situ below.
>>> 
>>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 3:16 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I recently lost an iPhone, and used Find my iPhone to try and find it.
>>> 
>>> If your device goes missing, put it in Lost Mode to lock it immediately and 
>>> start tracking its location. Find My iPhone will show you where it’s been 
>>> over the last 24 hours.
>>>> 
>>>> According to the spot on the map, the iPhone was in the middle of the 
>>>> closely mown lawn in the neighbour’s front yard across the street. We 
>>>> couldn’t find the iPhone nor could we hear any sound from it, nor could we 
>>>> hear it ring when we rang it.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like the iPhone has ‘silent’ mode turned on, if no sound is heard.
>>>> 
>>>> I used f”ind my iPhone” on three different devices over the next three 
>>>> days, from a variety of locations up to 20 km a

Re: Find iPhone

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello Ronni,

I had taken each of the steps suggested by you Ronni. The problem is that the 
iPhone is not where it says it is.
I’m wondering if there is a hack which enables who ever hacks the phone to make 
it appear it is somewhere other than where “Find my iPhone” says it is.

I’ve gone back to an iPhone 4 pending the recovery of the newer model which I 
had had for 2 days.

Cheers,

Michael

> On 31 Dec 2017, at 3:59 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> My comments in Situ below.
> 
>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 3:16 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I recently lost an iPhone, and used Find my iPhone to try and find it.
> 
> If your device goes missing, put it in Lost Mode to lock it immediately and 
> start tracking its location. Find My iPhone will show you where it’s been 
> over the last 24 hours.
>> 
>> According to the spot on the map, the iPhone was in the middle of the 
>> closely mown lawn in the neighbour’s front yard across the street. We 
>> couldn’t find the iPhone nor could we hear any sound from it, nor could we 
>> hear it ring when we rang it.
> 
> Sounds like the iPhone has ‘silent’ mode turned on, if no sound is heard.
>> 
>> I used f”ind my iPhone” on three different devices over the next three days, 
>> from a variety of locations up to 20 km away from the neighbour’s place. The 
>> result was identical on each of them, the location my missing phone less 
>> than “1 minute ago” as being in the middle of the front lawn.
>> 
>> The battery has now gone flat, but just in case someone recharges the 
>> battery and turns the phone on, I’d like to know what to do if, yet again, 
>> the iPhone is reported as being in the middle of the yard. Or what I could 
>> have done.
> 
> Use the Find My iPhone app or sign in to iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/> to 
> view your device’s location on a map. Your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch will 
> also mark its location when its battery is critically low, to help you find 
> it even if it runs out of power.
> 
> Activation Lock is designed to prevent anyone from using or selling your 
> device. The moment you turn on Find My iPhone, your Apple ID and password 
> will be required before anyone can turn off Find My iPhone, erase your 
> device, or reactivate it.
>> 
>> Each device I used was using the latest iOS.
>> 
>> Happy New Year
>> 
>> Michael
> 
> Happy New year
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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Find iPhone

[Michael Hawkins]

I recently lost an iPhone, and used Find my iPhone to try and find it.

According to the spot on the map, the iPhone was in the middle of the closely 
mown lawn in the neighbour’s front yard across the street. We couldn’t find the 
iPhone nor could we hear any sound from it, nor could we hear it ring when we 
rang it.

I used f”ind my iPhone” on three different devices over the next three days, 
from a variety of locations up to 20 km away from the neighbour’s place. The 
result was identical on each of them, the location my missing phone less than 
“1 minute ago” as being in the middle of the front lawn.

The battery has now gone flat, but just in case someone recharges the battery 
and turns the phone on, I’d like to know what to do if, yet again, the iPhone 
is reported as being in the middle of the yard. Or what I could have done.

Each device I used was using the latest iOS.

Happy New Year

Michael

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Re: ApplePay?

[Michael Hawkins]

Or it may be for economic reasons. For example, Apple may charge either the 
Apple user or the bank a fee for each transaction, but the banks might not 
charge the wallet user.

Michael Hawkins

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Oct 2017, at 9:31 am, Stephen Chape <chap...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> Gosh !
> I understood that they had already been denied the Cartel by the ACCC.
> But looks like the decision is still pending.
> I may have to move to ANZ if they are going to cry and stamp their feet for a 
> while yet.
> 
> 
>> On 31 Oct 2017, at 8:59 am, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Tim
>> 
>> Yes, I’d read they were looking into that. 
>> Which kinda begs the question …have they been holding out on ApplePay in the 
>> fear it would kill their own App. They get people into their own Wallet App 
>> first, then once they know people are using it, then let ApplePay come on 
>> board. So after their own App has gained momentum it’s then “ok” to allow 
>> Apple Pay.
>> But yes, more to add to the conspiracy ….er intrigue. :)
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 7
>> 
>> ---
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>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>> 
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>> permission by the author be requested. 
>> 
>>> On 31 Oct 2017, at 6:15 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Something interesting to add to the intrigue, and perhaps why Westpac were 
>>> being cagey to Daniel. 
>>> 
>>> Xx
>>> Three banks snub Apple with own instant payments app
>>> The Sydney Morning Herald
>>> 
>>> Three of the country's banking giants are joining forces to allow instant 
>>> payments between people or to small businesses via a smart phone, with 
>>> plans to ultimately roll out a cross-industry "digital wallet." Read the 
>>> full story
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shared from Apple News
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
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> Regards,
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Re: Managing apps in iTunes 12.7.0

[Michael Hawkins]

There’s no need to apologise, Peter - repeat information is welcome on items 
such as this.

Cheers

Michael Hawkins
> On 25 Sep 2017, at 10:18 AM, Peter Hinchliffe <hinch...@multiline.com.au> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 25 Sep 2017, at 10:02 am, FW <whae...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> thanks Peter,
>> Ronni had already sent a warning to all previously.
> 
> apologies to the group. It must have skipped past while I wasn’t looking...
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: Test someone reply please

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello Rosemary, I'm pleased to meet you. Pity it came about because of computer 
problems. Best of luck, Michael.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Jul 2017, at 7:10 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> Test would someone reply please.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rosemary Spark
> 
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Re: Security

[Michael Hawkins]

Brian,
I infer from the graphics that you feel you are swimming against the tide?
Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 May 2017, at 3:52 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> Daniel's text message was in an Asian language. I just was inquiring to if it 
> was supposed to be or if I have a wrong font setting in my iPhone6. 
> 
> Brian Risbey 
> OS10.3.2
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 May 2017, at 13:47, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> You can still open any app by right-click (Control-Click) its icon, choosing 
> Open, and then confirming that you want to open it. 
> So you are not prevented from opening any apps, you are simply protected 
> against opening apps from unidentified developers.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 12:48 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel 
>> Could not quite understand your message 
>> 
>> Brian Risbey 
>> OS10.3.2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 May 2017, at 12:11, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
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Re: passing of Bill Parker

[Michael Hawkins]

Ronni, 

Bill was Dr Bill Parker, our member as well as being a member of two bush fire 
brigades, the West Australian Rowing Club, Perth Morris Men (you may have seen 
him dance in the Hay Street Mall)  and The Red Sea Pedestrians Klezmer Band.

Larger than life and never unkind.

Regards,

Michael Hawkins

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Feb 2017, at 9:08 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> I don’t think this is our member, and I certainly hope I’m right.
> Our Bill is Dr Bill Parker
> RENEW - Scientific and Technical writing & editing in energy and resources.
> 
> Hopefully Bill will respond to the list Gary!
> 
> Ronni
> 
>> On 25 Feb 2017, at 8:05 am, gdorn@me <gd...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Wamug
>> This may a notice of WAMUGS Bill Parker passing away.
>> If not my apologies
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1744507319196872=19128610156
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Another good man gone. Vale (Dr) Bill Parker, renaisance man,...
>> Bill sat at the back of his school class in UK and couldnt see a thing so 
>> considered not too bright. Later, the miracle of glasses. and Dr Bill 
>> Parker, microbiologist, self taught musician to performance standard, folk 
>> dancer, rowing coach, sustainable house designer and goodness knows what 
>> else and a hell of a lot of fun to share adventures with in 'The Red Sea 
>> Pedestrians"... We rehearsed every Saturday afternoon for months to develop 
>> a sound and style and a playlist, with Bill and David Hoffman combing 
>> through hundreds of Klezmer recordings and folk songs , transcribing to 
>> written music ( usually printed on the back of used documents of a dubious 
>> nature) then a unique Jewish or Academic style of struggle for the best 
>> result whereby everyone was equal and stood up powerfully for their view or 
>> ideas and yet no one was insulted and inclusion in the group as a peer was a 
>> given. A powerful result developed and we performed at The Oz concert, 
>> various arts council or city council "concerts in the park", at some amazing 
>> weddings, a couple of Bar Mitzvahs, music festivals including Nannup, 
>> Fairbridge, Bridgetown Rhapsody, Kulcha Club, live recording for the ABC 
>> etc, We started out thinking it would be Jewish weddings and Bar Mitzvahs 
>> but developed into a 40 minute show act where we came on and played a "show" 
>> of great music with a non stop flow between pieces. Melanie Jones 
>> transferred her bush dance calling skills across to teaching audiences folk 
>> dances from Jewish and Russian roots which was hugely popular. Bill had a 
>> wickedly surprising sense of humour that went down a treat. One of our early 
>> gigs was a huge wedding in a marquee on Bindoon farm, Son of leading Jewish 
>> family marries daughter of major Italian restaurant family ... so we added 
>> in a suite of Italian songs and the joy and dancing at the wedding was 
>> amazing and we kept the italian and latin stuff in the play list, along with 
>> Jazz crossovers derived from Klezmer.
>> Going to the big shows or festivals with the band was good for our family as 
>> the band was just one of many good acts on the programme so we got to enjoy 
>> the whole show, have trips away, hear and see things we otherwise would not 
>> have thought of. Reuben used to come with me often to the Saturday afternoon 
>> rehearsals and I reckon he saw a model there of how hard you can work at 
>> knocking a band into shape. <1f642.png>:-)
>> So now Bill is gone and David has sent this to the West Australian death 
>> notices.
>> "Suddenly Monday night, our founding band member, clarinetist, transcribing 
>> musician, farmer, Perth Morris Man, scientist and friend. Bill, there was so 
>> much more you longed to do. Mel, Paul, David and all Red Sea Pedestrians 
>> Klezmer Band members
>> Regards,
>> David Hoffman "
>> For me, there is of course the sense of loss and of compassion for those 
>> closest to Bill, but also very strongly a great reminder and a realisation 
>> of how fortunate I have been to share so much creativirty and enjoyment with 
>> such people as Bill and everyone in that crazy band.
>> chow
>> 
>> gary dorn
>> gd...@mac.com
>> 
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Re: passing of Bill Parker

[Michael Hawkins]

Yes, sadly, Bill died in his sleep a fortnight ago tomorrow, very unexpectedly 
but due to a blood clot.

His funeral was an open air affair yesterday, near the lake in Manning Park, 
Spearwood. His coffin was made of wickerwork and the Morris Men of Perth formed 
a guard of honour while his coffin was escorted from the hearse by members of 
two volunteer fire brigades from the hills.

At the conclusion of the service The Red Sea Pedestrians played as Bill was 
wheeled back to the hearse. Bill had been a member of the group.

A man of many parts, he used to run his four wheel drive on fuel he made from 
fat collected from fish and chip shops. He also ran it on fuel he made from 
chook manure.
For some reason Toyota I think it was rejected a warranty claim on either the 
fuel pump or the injector system (I can't remember which).

Bill was a scientist who worked in the field of microbiotics. He was involved 
in a company which floated relatively recently, Protomeics International, which 
is developing a market in India, amongst other places. Tests it has developed 
can predict the probability of various illnesses well in advance of symptoms 
becoming apparent.

I miss Bill and his irreverent sense of humour.

Michael Hawkins

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Feb 2017, at 8:05 am, gdorn@me <gd...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Wamug
> This may a notice of WAMUGS Bill Parker passing away.
> If not my apologies
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1744507319196872=19128610156
> 
> 
> 
> Another good man gone. Vale (Dr) Bill Parker, renaisance man,...
> Bill sat at the back of his school class in UK and couldnt see a thing so 
> considered not too bright. Later, the miracle of glasses. and Dr Bill 
> Parker, microbiologist, self taught musician to performance standard, folk 
> dancer, rowing coach, sustainable house designer and goodness knows what else 
> and a hell of a lot of fun to share adventures with in 'The Red Sea 
> Pedestrians"... We rehearsed every Saturday afternoon for months to develop a 
> sound and style and a playlist, with Bill and David Hoffman combing through 
> hundreds of Klezmer recordings and folk songs , transcribing to written music 
> ( usually printed on the back of used documents of a dubious nature) then 
> a unique Jewish or Academic style of struggle for the best result whereby 
> everyone was equal and stood up powerfully for their view or ideas and yet no 
> one was insulted and inclusion in the group as a peer was a given. A powerful 
> result developed and we performed at The Oz concert, various arts council or 
> city council "concerts in the park", at some amazing weddings, a couple of 
> Bar Mitzvahs, music festivals including Nannup, Fairbridge, Bridgetown 
> Rhapsody, Kulcha Club, live recording for the ABC etc, We started out 
> thinking it would be Jewish weddings and Bar Mitzvahs but developed into a 40 
> minute show act where we came on and played a "show" of great music with a 
> non stop flow between pieces. Melanie Jones transferred her bush dance 
> calling skills across to teaching audiences folk dances from Jewish and 
> Russian roots which was hugely popular. Bill had a wickedly surprising sense 
> of humour that went down a treat. One of our early gigs was a huge wedding in 
> a marquee on Bindoon farm, Son of leading Jewish family marries daughter of 
> major Italian restaurant family ... so we added in a suite of Italian songs 
> and the joy and dancing at the wedding was amazing and we kept the italian 
> and latin stuff in the play list, along with Jazz crossovers derived from 
> Klezmer.
> Going to the big shows or festivals with the band was good for our family as 
> the band was just one of many good acts on the programme so we got to enjoy 
> the whole show, have trips away, hear and see things we otherwise would not 
> have thought of. Reuben used to come with me often to the Saturday afternoon 
> rehearsals and I reckon he saw a model there of how hard you can work at 
> knocking a band into shape. <1f642.png>:-)
> So now Bill is gone and David has sent this to the West Australian death 
> notices.
> "Suddenly Monday night, our founding band member, clarinetist, transcribing 
> musician, farmer, Perth Morris Man, scientist and friend. Bill, there was so 
> much more you longed to do. Mel, Paul, David and all Red Sea Pedestrians 
> Klezmer Band members
> Regards,
> David Hoffman "
> For me, there is of course the sense of loss and of compassion for those 
> closest to Bill, but also very strongly a great reminder and a realisation of 
> how fortunate I have been to share so much creativirty and enjoyment with 
> such people as Bill and everyone in that crazy band.
> chow
> 
> gary dorn
> gd...@mac.com
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Re: Resetting iCloud - Photos sync data - has become Apple iCloud

[Michael Hawkins]

t; 
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>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 2:35 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> And if you tick the "off" box a warning appears on the screen to the effect 
>> that if iCloud is turned off, all data will be removed from the computer.
>> 
>> If that's not being held to ransom, I don't what is
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 2:23 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> All I know is that If you don't want anything to go to iCloud Drive, you 
>>> have to make sure that the "On" box is not ticked.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 2:06 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bill,
>>>> 
>>>> I don't agree that iCloud is only useful for finding a lost phone.
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't seek advise on iCloud security nor what my personal choices of 
>>>> how the technology suits my lifestyle should be.
>>>> 
>>>> The purpose for my initial request for guidance and support on a technical 
>>>> matter has been resolved.
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 1:43 pm, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Time,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t think its necessary to be forced by Apple to do anything.  I use 
>>>>> Bing to search and unless I clear all sites after doing so I notice ads 
>>>>> popping up for service I was previously searching for. Kill off Cookies!  
>>>>> iCloud?  Extremely useful for finding a lost phone, but not much else.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 12:05, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael my recollection from the last month, was that prior to me making 
>>>>>> a decision to use iCloud to sync my Photos, that I used iTunes, which I 
>>>>>> understand is the default, or at least was the only option for many 
>>>>>> years. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This worked fine, but for the reasons I have already stated, I chose to 
>>>>>> use iCloud for Photos, and in fact, for the full suite of its capacity - 
>>>>>> Keychain, Find my iPhone, Contacts, Calendar etc.Now the ‘stuck’ 
>>>>>> issue has been resolved, it works fine for me, and as I said, my 
>>>>>> recollection is that using anything to sync is optional - iTunes still 
>>>>>> works across the home network and for years did this without fuss and no 
>>>>>> use of external data.   Yes, I do live and function within constant 
>>>>>> access to 4G coverage and cable broadband. I also travel remotely and 
>>>>>> prepare myself for the inevitable loss of connectivity by ensuring I 
>>>>>> have local copies of data I may need.  I understand not everyone is as 
>>>>>> privileged as I am. Sadly, I cannot resolve this, but I do believe Apple 
>>>>>> accommodates by giving syncing options that are quite reasonable. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m not sure Apple is forcing anyone to do anything - choosing iTunes, 
>>>>>> or iCloud, or nothing to sync photos or other choices is the user 
>>>>>> choice.  If you have found iCloud syncing is turned on by default, I 
>>>>>> would be surprised as I found I needed to sign into iCloud for all this 
>>>>>> to work, and during that sign in process, there are options I had to 
>>>>>> tick, or untick to select my options.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve never fou

Re: Resetting iCloud - Photos sync data

[Michael Hawkins]

And if you tick the "off" box a warning appears on the screen to the effect 
that if iCloud is turned off, all data will be removed from the computer.

If that's not being held to ransom, I don't what is

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Jan 2017, at 2:23 pm, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> 
> wrote:
> 
> All I know is that If you don't want anything to go to iCloud Drive, you have 
> to make sure that the "On" box is not ticked.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 2:06 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I don't agree that iCloud is only useful for finding a lost phone.
>> 
>> I didn't seek advise on iCloud security nor what my personal choices of how 
>> the technology suits my lifestyle should be.
>> 
>> The purpose for my initial request for guidance and support on a technical 
>> matter has been resolved.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2
>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 1:43 pm, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Time,
>>> 
>>> I don’t think its necessary to be forced by Apple to do anything.  I use 
>>> Bing to search and unless I clear all sites after doing so I notice ads 
>>> popping up for service I was previously searching for. Kill off Cookies!  
>>> iCloud?  Extremely useful for finding a lost phone, but not much else.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 12:05, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Michael my recollection from the last month, was that prior to me making a 
>>>> decision to use iCloud to sync my Photos, that I used iTunes, which I 
>>>> understand is the default, or at least was the only option for many years. 
>>>> 
>>>> This worked fine, but for the reasons I have already stated, I chose to 
>>>> use iCloud for Photos, and in fact, for the full suite of its capacity - 
>>>> Keychain, Find my iPhone, Contacts, Calendar etc.Now the ‘stuck’ issue 
>>>> has been resolved, it works fine for me, and as I said, my recollection is 
>>>> that using anything to sync is optional - iTunes still works across the 
>>>> home network and for years did this without fuss and no use of external 
>>>> data.   Yes, I do live and function within constant access to 4G coverage 
>>>> and cable broadband. I also travel remotely and prepare myself for the 
>>>> inevitable loss of connectivity by ensuring I have local copies of data I 
>>>> may need.  I understand not everyone is as privileged as I am. Sadly, I 
>>>> cannot resolve this, but I do believe Apple accommodates by giving syncing 
>>>> options that are quite reasonable. 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not sure Apple is forcing anyone to do anything - choosing iTunes, or 
>>>> iCloud, or nothing to sync photos or other choices is the user choice.  If 
>>>> you have found iCloud syncing is turned on by default, I would be 
>>>> surprised as I found I needed to sign into iCloud for all this to work, 
>>>> and during that sign in process, there are options I had to tick, or 
>>>> untick to select my options.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve never found anything I have loaded to my Apple servers being used for 
>>>> commercial gain “that I know about”.  I find it amusing that many people, 
>>>> not saying you’re in this group Michael, use a free platform such as 
>>>> Facebook for an enormous amount of personal data. It’s all free, zilch, no 
>>>> cost, same as Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat etc etc and then there is an 
>>>> outcry when these companies need to make money to continue to provide this 
>>>> free platform. They get money from advertising that tracks our usage and 
>>>> viewing habits and targets advertising to ’suit’ us.  I’m sure Google 
>>>> Maps, or TomTom sell data  to transport planners that they collect as we 
>>>> use route directions on connected GPS devices. Is this not the same thing 
>>>> as using our information for commercial gain? 
>>>> 
>>>> My recollection of the Census fiasco was that no data was lost nor 
>>>> corrupted. There were connection issues that we all experienced, but there 
>>>> was no data loss nor hacking. 
>>>> 
>>>> I am sorry you are frustrated Michael, but this is drifting well 

Re: Resetting iCloud - Photos sync data

[Michael Hawkins]

All I know is that If you don't want anything to go to iCloud Drive, you have 
to make sure that the "On" box is not ticked.

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Jan 2017, at 2:06 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> I don't agree that iCloud is only useful for finding a lost phone.
> 
> I didn't seek advise on iCloud security nor what my personal choices of how 
> the technology suits my lifestyle should be.
> 
> The purpose for my initial request for guidance and support on a technical 
> matter has been resolved.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 1:43 pm, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Time,
>> 
>> I don’t think its necessary to be forced by Apple to do anything.  I use 
>> Bing to search and unless I clear all sites after doing so I notice ads 
>> popping up for service I was previously searching for. Kill off Cookies!  
>> iCloud?  Extremely useful for finding a lost phone, but not much else.
>> 
>> 
>> Bill
>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 12:05, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Michael my recollection from the last month, was that prior to me making a 
>>> decision to use iCloud to sync my Photos, that I used iTunes, which I 
>>> understand is the default, or at least was the only option for many years. 
>>> 
>>> This worked fine, but for the reasons I have already stated, I chose to use 
>>> iCloud for Photos, and in fact, for the full suite of its capacity - 
>>> Keychain, Find my iPhone, Contacts, Calendar etc.Now the ‘stuck’ issue 
>>> has been resolved, it works fine for me, and as I said, my recollection is 
>>> that using anything to sync is optional - iTunes still works across the 
>>> home network and for years did this without fuss and no use of external 
>>> data.   Yes, I do live and function within constant access to 4G coverage 
>>> and cable broadband. I also travel remotely and prepare myself for the 
>>> inevitable loss of connectivity by ensuring I have local copies of data I 
>>> may need.  I understand not everyone is as privileged as I am. Sadly, I 
>>> cannot resolve this, but I do believe Apple accommodates by giving syncing 
>>> options that are quite reasonable. 
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure Apple is forcing anyone to do anything - choosing iTunes, or 
>>> iCloud, or nothing to sync photos or other choices is the user choice.  If 
>>> you have found iCloud syncing is turned on by default, I would be surprised 
>>> as I found I needed to sign into iCloud for all this to work, and during 
>>> that sign in process, there are options I had to tick, or untick to select 
>>> my options.
>>> 
>>> I’ve never found anything I have loaded to my Apple servers being used for 
>>> commercial gain “that I know about”.  I find it amusing that many people, 
>>> not saying you’re in this group Michael, use a free platform such as 
>>> Facebook for an enormous amount of personal data. It’s all free, zilch, no 
>>> cost, same as Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat etc etc and then there is an 
>>> outcry when these companies need to make money to continue to provide this 
>>> free platform. They get money from advertising that tracks our usage and 
>>> viewing habits and targets advertising to ’suit’ us.  I’m sure Google Maps, 
>>> or TomTom sell data  to transport planners that they collect as we use 
>>> route directions on connected GPS devices. Is this not the same thing as 
>>> using our information for commercial gain? 
>>> 
>>> My recollection of the Census fiasco was that no data was lost nor 
>>> corrupted. There were connection issues that we all experienced, but there 
>>> was no data loss nor hacking. 
>>> 
>>> I am sorry you are frustrated Michael, but this is drifting well away from 
>>> my original query about the technical aspects of me using iCloud. As I see 
>>> it, you DO have choices and iCloud is not set by default. There are many 
>>> things to get frustrated about in the world, there appears to be no reason 
>>> to make this one more of them. 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes for the New Year. 
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Jan 2017, at 10:40 AM, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Tim. What underpinned my email was my frustration with what I see 
>>&

Re: Resetting iCloud - Photos sync data

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Tim. What underpinned my email was my frustration with what I see as 
Apple's  less than open tactic of making uploading to iCloud the default 
setting when iOS updates are released. I don't know what the privacy laws are 
in whichever Country the server is housed, and the debacle with the Australian 
census last year illustrates that no system is safe from database corruption.

If someone has more than one Apple device and wants to share content between 
the devices or make it possible for one device to access another, it should be 
that person's decision to set the system up so that that can be done.

We don't all live in a location with ready Internet access, or quick upload and 
download speeds. Nor do we all live in a place where access to the Internet is 
cheap.

In other words the decision to transmit data over the internet should be a 
conscious deliberate decision made by the person who owns the data, and causing 
the data to be uploaded by default for commercial gain is reprehensible.

Cheers,

Michael
Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Jan 2017, at 10:14 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Fair question Michael,
> 
> The advantage of iCloud syncing as I see it, is that you can have one 
> ‘master’ computer where you download and store the originals photos, AS WELL 
> AS storing the full sized versions on the cloud. This enables Time Machine 
> and Super Duper to back up the photos if iCloud flies away into dark matter.  
> I’ve lost many photos before due to hard disk failure and don’t want to go 
> through that again. 
> 
> The other advantage is that it only downloads smaller images to all the other 
> devices, sized to suit that device. The entire photo library is on each of 
> these devices, all 15000, not like using Photo Stream which only put 1000 
> photos on the mobile devices.   I am not likely to NEED to view all those on 
> the other devices, but inevitably when I wanted to show someone a photo from 
> a year before for example, when using Photo Stream, and iTunes sync, it was 
> not in either folder. 
> 
> I did try to do what you suggest, but the MacBook Pro did not have enough 
> storage capacity for the full Photos Library, and there was really no need to 
> have more than one computer with full sized images. If you need to edit or 
> print the full sized images, they are downloaded from iCloud as needed to the 
> specific device. 
> 
> I trust this explains my logic.
> 
> I have stopped taking photos in RAW which complicates matters somewhat when 
> sharing via iCloud. What I have found is that a photo that has both JPEG and 
> RAW version is impossible to select between in iOS devices. So if I want to 
> attach a photo to an email, it must be in JPEG not RAW, and several times I 
> have done it, only the RAW version - at some 20mb - is able to be attached. 
> I’m now taking full sized JPEG instead and these run to around 8mb per image, 
> and the size is managed by Mail when sending. I am not sure if there is a way 
> around the way iCloud manages RAW image syncing to iOS devices - happy to 
> hear suggestions. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On 31 Dec 2016, at 8:45 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Pardon me for asking this, but wouldn't have been faster and simpler to 
>> physically connect one computer to the other?
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 31 Dec 2016, at 1:07 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Update.  For the benefit of anyone else having similar problems with iCloud 
>>> syncing ‘stuck’.
>>> 
>>> I now have a reasonable degree of confidence that Photos has been sorted 
>>> and will now correctly sync with iCloud over four devices. 
>>> This has not been the easy process I had expected.   I discovered that 
>>> creating a new library I could keep the original library and not risk 
>>> losing data. Only one library can be the ‘system library’ and sync with 
>>> iCloud. 
>>> 
>>> I have one computer that is ticked to download originals and that computer 
>>> is now showing ‘all up to date’ in Photos. Yay.
>>> 
>>> My mobile devices have always synced well with iCloud and update any 
>>> changes immediately.
>>> 
>>> My laptop had been refusing to sync correctly with iCloud and was stuck for 
>>> a week. After signing out of iCloud, restarting the computer in Safe Mode, 
>>> then restarting again in normal mode, rebuilding the Photo Library with no 
>>> change,  I ended up creating a new Library, then turned iCloud syncing back 
>>> on and it is currently downloading th

Re: Resetting iCloud - Photos sync data

[Michael Hawkins]

Pardon me for asking this, but wouldn't have been faster and simpler to 
physically connect one computer to the other?

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2016, at 1:07 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Update.  For the benefit of anyone else having similar problems with iCloud 
> syncing ‘stuck’.
> 
> I now have a reasonable degree of confidence that Photos has been sorted and 
> will now correctly sync with iCloud over four devices. 
> This has not been the easy process I had expected.   I discovered that 
> creating a new library I could keep the original library and not risk losing 
> data. Only one library can be the ‘system library’ and sync with iCloud. 
> 
> I have one computer that is ticked to download originals and that computer is 
> now showing ‘all up to date’ in Photos. Yay.
> 
> My mobile devices have always synced well with iCloud and update any changes 
> immediately.
> 
> My laptop had been refusing to sync correctly with iCloud and was stuck for a 
> week. After signing out of iCloud, restarting the computer in Safe Mode, then 
> restarting again in normal mode, rebuilding the Photo Library with no change, 
>  I ended up creating a new Library, then turned iCloud syncing back on and it 
> is currently downloading the contents of my iCloud photo gallery, some 50Gb, 
> so will take a while.   
> 
> I lost track of how many times I found  Photos trying to upload the entire 
> 15000 photos to iCloud, at least five,  and am grateful to have a 1000Gb plan 
> with Bigpond on cable so had the capacity for such nonsense. 
> 
> I expect my problems are now on the way to being resolved. Looking forward to 
> happy Photos syncing in the New Year.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2016, at 7:28 PM, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>> EEEk,,,   :-(
>> 
>> Restarted Mac Mini.
>> This got the upload moving again - yay. 
>> 
>> "uploading 100 to go"
>> "50 to go" looking good.
>> "uploading 1 item"
>> 
>> Success I’m thinking.
>> Suddenly it is uploading 15,827 items - AGAIN!
>> 
>> Sigh …..
>> 
>> I’ve quit Photos and will see what mood it is in tomorrow. 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2016, at 6:35 PM, Tim Law  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening,
>>> 
>>> I am hoping to find out how to reset the sync data to force one computer to 
>>> reset the sync data for loading Photos to iCloud
>>> 
>>> Two weeks, or more, ago, I turned on iCloud storage for Photos on four 
>>> devices. 
>>> All are logged into the same iCloud account, although some are @me.com and 
>>> some are @mac.com email address names. I understand this is insignificant. 
>>> I have checked at https://appleid.apple.com/ and found all four devices are 
>>> logged into the same Apple ID
>>> 
>>> Mac Mini - 10.11.6  Cannot be upgraded to Sierra
>>> Mac Book Pro   macOS 10.12.1
>>> iPhone 6SiOS 10.1.1
>>> iPad Air 2  iOS 10.1.1
>>> 
>>> In order to keep a current back-up, I have turned on ‘Download originals to 
>>> this Mac’ on the Mac Mini which is my ‘main’ computer. Data is backed up 
>>> using Time Machine and Super Duper.
>>> 
>>> All the mobile devices have the same number of photos and videos as each 
>>> other and as is https://www.icloud.com/#photos2  which is 15,003
>>> The Mac Mini registers it should have 14752.
>>> 
>>> The Mac Mini is Stuck at uploading an extra 1878 photos and has been for 
>>> over 24 hours. This is the second time this has happened and it has taken a 
>>> week to upload the 55Gb of data a second time. Photo’s triggered itself 
>>> into a reload of all photos after I turned off iCloud Photo Library in an 
>>> effort to get the devices correctly syncing. 
>>> 
>>> When I delete, or add, a photo to any of the mobile devices, it is shared 
>>> to the other mobile devices quickly. 
>>> Photos on the Mac Mini has kept several photos that have been deleted for 
>>> days on the other devices. 
>>> 
>>> During the week I can see the CPU working hard on iCloud or Photos, then I 
>>> see the upload loading to iCloud. It varies between activity on both, but 
>>> once ‘stuck’ on 1878 to go, there is no activity showing. 
>>> 
>>> I have tried the Pause for One Day button in Photos but nothing forces the 
>>> reset and correction as I thought it would.
>>> 
>>> I think I need to find a file that contains the sync data and remove it as 
>>> I suspect it has got corrupted somehow. 
>>> 
>>> Is there such a file and are my ideas sensible or is there another option. 
>>> 
>>> I’ve been patient for two or more weeks with Photos and iCloud - like the 
>>> forums suggest - now is the time for a hammer!!  kidding
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ideas welcome.
>>> 
>>> What about turning off iCloud Photo Library, deleting all the photos in the 
>>> Mac Mini library….. k….. and then turning it back on again so all the 
>>> 55Gb will download. That sounds scary.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Responding to Complaints, Apple Drops Adapter and Monitor Prices

[Michael Hawkins]

Good. Will Apple also restore to my iPhone and computer all the music I 
accumulated over the years, only some of which I purchased via iTunes. I spent 
6 days at my father's side as he was dying. He was tormented. Music that he 
knew soothed him. My choice was extremely limited because d was in a nursing 
home in NZ which didn't provide wireless connection to the internet. This meant 
I couldn't play for him music that he loved. Thank you Apple for ensuring that 
he missed out. How dare you remove from my Apple equipment music that you did 
not supply, and music that I paid for?

Michael Hawkins

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Nov. 2016, at 9:04 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi people,
> Bit of better news from Apple...
> 
> Responding to Complaints, Apple Drops Adapter and Monitor Prices
> "Many Apple fans have been irked by how the new line of MacBook Pro laptops 
> offer only Thunderbolt 3 ports (which are backward compatible with USB-C). To 
> connect to nearly any existing peripheral, users will require one or more 
> adapters, such as those for USB-A, DisplayPort, HDMI, Ethernet, and even 
> older implementations of Thunderbolt."
> 
> "Apple doesn’t get any points for thinking ahead, but happily, the company 
> does appear to be responding to the waves of criticism. According to the 
> Loop, Apple is dropping prices on many of its adapters through the end of 
> 2016. Affected products include:
> 
> USB-C to USB Adapter: from $19 to $9
> Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter: from $49 to $29
> USB-C to Lightning Cable (1m): from $25 to $19
> USB-C to Lightning Cable (2m): from $35 to $29
> USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter: from $69 to $49
> USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter: from $69 to $49
> Apple is also discounting other USB-C products sold in the Apple online 
> store, such as the SanDisk Extreme Pro SD UHS-II Card USB-C Reader, which 
> drops from $49 to $29."
> 
> NOTE: above prices are USD$ not AU$
> http://www.loopinsight.com/2016/11/04/apple-cuts-prices-on-usb-c-adapters-and-accessories/
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
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Re: New Macbook Pros?

[Michael Hawkins]

In my irritated opinion the changes to the iOS are bad enough.

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Oct. 2016, at 12:30 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob, you might like to read Mike Johnson's comments on the new MacBook 
> Pros. It's the second article down on his blog page. That is, if you are 
> interested in someone who shares your dismay at Apple's choices...
> 
> http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_index.html
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 28 Oct. 2016, at 9:18 pm, Brian RISBEY  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rob
>> I did exactly the same sums this morning, $6k+ but then I considered 
>> external SSD hard drives and speed of connection ports and maybe just 1Tb 
>> internal drive might do.
>> My PowerBook 5300 cost $5k in the early 90s :-)
>> Over the years all my maxed out MacBooks 15" & 17" have been close to $6k. 
>> So, they are in fact becoming cheaper, relatively speaking. The last, a 17", 
>> now 8 years old, is still humming along.
>> I don't know how upgradable this new one will be. Has ifixit torn one down 
>> yet? Maxing a special build maybe your only option if you don't want an 
>> external drive.
>> My 2c worth, (& the other $6499.98)
>> Brian Risbey 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 28 Oct. 2016, at 18:57, Rob Phillips  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone
>> 
>> I've just been looking at the new Macbook Pro. It looks pretty cool, but 
>> what about the price?
>> 
>> The top of range machine costs A$4,249.00 for 512Gb storage. I've got 400Gb 
>> of photos!
>> 
>> And then they want  A$1,920.00 to upgrade to a 2TB SSD drive...
>> 
>> This is up to the price level that the first Mac IIs were in the late 
>> 1980s...
>> 
>> And then there's nothing in the box to connect my existing devices to.  I've 
>> got to buy all sorts of adaptors (from $30 to $110) to keep working...
>> 
>> Are Apple going to price themselves out of the market?
>> 
>> Do I have to carry around al sorts of cables and 3rd party devices to use my 
>> computer as I move around?
>> 
>> Any ideas about how to resolve the issue?
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> -- 
>> Dr Rob Phillips
>> Sessional tutor
>> School of Education, Curtin University
>> rob.phill...@curtin.edu.au
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>> Education
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Re: Retrieving movie

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni,

cdr was an Apple thing used to create a video that would play on a variety of 
machines. I think Daniel may have written about it at some time. Just now I 
cannot remember exactly how it was done - the current OS and screens are too 
different to jog my memory.

Cheers,

Michael


> On 18 Oct 2016, at 6:17 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> How did you create the.cdr? .cdr is an uncompressed disk image, like ISO.
> Do you see any movie file on the CD-R? If so, what is the name of the file, 
> and what is the extension of that file name. Some examples are .mov, .avi, 
> .mpg, .mpeg-4, .wmv, .mkv, .flv?
> 
> Can you Double-click the .cdr file to open it, then drag its VIDEO_TS folder 
> to DVD Player's dock icon to view the video?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 17 Oct. 2016, at 10:54 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> A few operating systems ago I made a cdr of a video with the intention of 
>> being able to burn it to a disc. I’m now using OS 10.11.6 and I cannot do 
>> anything at all with the cdr.
>> 
>> This may sound gobbly-gook but I’m tired, I’m frustrated and be blowed if I 
>> know how to retrieve media that I created and saved, and confused about 
>> where it’s gone and how do I get it back. Apple used to be intuitive. Now 
>> its confusing. Or is it my age?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael
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Retrieving movie

[Michael Hawkins]

A few operating systems ago I made a cdr of a video with the intention of being 
able to burn it to a disc. I’m now using OS 10.11.6 and I cannot do anything at 
all with the cdr.

This may sound gobbly-gook but I’m tired, I’m frustrated and be blowed if I 
know how to retrieve media that I created and saved, and confused about where 
it’s gone and how do I get it back. Apple used to be intuitive. Now its 
confusing. Or is it my age?

Cheers,

Michael
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Re: ITunes

[Michael Hawkins]

Good evening Ronni,

I haven't made any attempt to synchronise. I simply download if I want to 
listen to any particular song or album. It doesn't appease my anger over Apples 
high-handed action in removing my access to all the songs I had accumulated 
over the years, including making legal copies of cds that I owned. Apple should 
have forewarned users that if they installed a particular update they would no 
longer have access to their music without having to download from Outer 
Mongolia or Khazakastan or wherever Apple has its servers.
As far as I'm concerned, Apple's action is tantamount to theft or conversion.

Cheers,

Michael



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> On 13 Oct. 2016, at 3:33 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> Is this problem sorted? Have you been able to sync your iTunes music?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 10 Oct. 2016, at 11:53 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> Have you connected the iPhone to iTunes and checked what music you have 
>> selected to Sync to your iPhone?
>> 
>> Once you have the music 'playlists' or ‘tracks' you wish to have on your 
>> iPhone selected click ‘Sync’.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> macOS Sierra 10.12
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 Oct. 2016, at 10:45 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have iOS 10.0.2 on my IPhone. Over the past 65 years I've accumulated a 
>>> lot of music - about 10 years ago I had thousands of tracks on my iPod. I 
>>> used to have loads on my iPhone, too, as well as my computer and on CDs.  
>>> For some reason though they're no longer on my iPhone - according to iTunes 
>>> I have to download them. Why? 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Michael Hawkins
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPhone hackers.

[Michael Hawkins]

Good, sound, practical advice Ronni.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins

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> On 13 Oct. 2016, at 10:55 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> Yes, your wife's IT Specialist is correct in warning about survey scams.
> 
> Beware of scam phone surveys which lead to other scam calls:
> How the scam works
> 
> You receive a call out of the blue from a scammer who pretends to be 
> conducting a legitimate telephone survey.
> The scammer may claim to be from a genuine research or survey company or 
> calling on behalf of a bank/financial institution.
> Scammers often only ask a small number of questions, usually two or three.
> Questions may focus on the bank or financial institution you use, whether you 
> are happy with their service, and if you would consider changing banks.
> You may also be asked which branch you opened your account at. Once the 
> scammer knows your branch they can use it to find the BSB number which will 
> often make up the starting digits of your bank account number.
> Within a few weeks you may get a second scam call.
> The second scam caller may try to convince you that they are legitimate by 
> using the personal details you gave them during the telephone survey. They 
> may seem convincing because they know which bank you are with, which branch 
> you bank at, and the starting digits of your bank account number.
> Scammers may quote the starting digits of your bank account number and then 
> ask you to provide the remaining numbers.
> The call may be an overcharged bank fee reclaim scam or any other scam which 
> tries to steal your money and your personal and financial details.
> Protect yourself
> 
> Whilst telephone surveys are often conducted as part of legitimate research 
> exercises, it is important to remember that scammers sometimes pose as 
> surveyors in order to win your trust.
> Remember that you can still receive scam calls even if you have a private 
> number or have listed your number on the Australian Government’s Do Not Call 
> Register(link is external). Scammers can obtain your number fraudulently or 
> from anywhere it has bee publicly listed such as in a phone book.
> If you are asked to participate in a telephone survey and are interested in 
> participating, you don’t have to answer their questions straight away. If you 
> are in any doubt at all, ask the caller which organisation they are from and 
> arrange a time for them to call you back.
> In the meantime call the organisation’s official contact number to ask if the 
> survey is legitimate. If they answer no, or if you can’t find any mention of 
> the organisation or their contact details, it is most likely a scam.
> Never use the contact details provided by the person who called you - try to 
> find official contact details through a phonebook or an online search.
> Don’t give your personal, credit card or account details over the phone 
> unless you made the call and the phone number came from a trusted source.
> If you think you have provided your account details to a scammer, contact 
> your bank or financial institution immediately.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 13 Oct. 2016, at 10:35 am, Anthony (Tony) Francis <antne...@icloud.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello  fellow Wamugers
>> 
>> A question for our experts.
>> 
>> I recently received a phone call from a “Survey Company”, in regards to 
>> Insurance, which Company I was with, how would I rate them etc. Whilst on 
>> the phone my Wife tried to get me to hang up as she had been informed by an 
>> IT Specialist at work that some of these so called Survey Companies are 
>> actually a front for hackers that can access all of your personal details on 
>> your phone whilst conducting their Survey. I can’t find anything on line to 
>> show me that this is possible?? Is anyone aware of this being a possibility??
>> 
>> Thanks Guy’s
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> BODDINGTON.
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Re: ITunes not working the way it should

[Michael Hawkins]

At a guess Bill, I'd say that like me, you're missing the older version of 
iTunes.

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 Oct. 2016, at 7:27 am, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> I haven’t used iTunes for a long while but recently a change in work habits 
> led me to try a little background music.
> 
> I choose an album, I start on track 01 and expect to then hear 02. 03 etc. It 
> doesn’t matter what I choose, the second track played is random.  I have 
> “shuffle” OFF.
> 
> Also I see quite a few mp3 files that look right ( and can be found) but will 
> not play. 
> 
> Is there something I am missing?
> 
> Bill
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ITunes

[Michael Hawkins]

I have iOS 10.0.2 on my IPhone. Over the past 65 years I've accumulated a lot 
of music - about 10 years ago I had thousands of tracks on my iPod. I used to 
have loads on my iPhone, too, as well as my computer and on CDs.  For some 
reason though they're no longer on my iPhone - according to iTunes I have to 
download them. Why? 

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins


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Re: For those running El Capitan, ...auto update "may" take you to macOS Sierra

[Michael Hawkins]

Daniel, 

If only I'd known this a couple of weeks ago. In an unguarded moment Sierra 
went merrily ahead and shoved me onto iCloud (but not iCloud Drive). Attempts 
to turn iCloud preferences off result in a stern threat/warning that if I do 
that all contacts will be removed from my computer. It irritates the hell out 
of me - they're my contacts, collected since 1993. How dare Apple threaten to 
steal them.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins

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> On 4 Oct. 2016, at 8:04 pm, Daniel Kerr <dan...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote:
> 
> For those on El Capitan, Apple have changed it slightly so it will auto 
> download the Sierra update and have it ready to go.
> You still have the option to not install it, and have to “approve” the 
> install with password etc, so it still would give you the warning. But if you 
> don’t want it downloaded just yet, you can turn this off.
> 
> More information on it here -
> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/03/macos-sierra-automatic-downloads/
> 
> Also, if you do install it and want to bypass the “iCloud Drive” setup, the 
> best option to do is to bypass signing into iCloud when you first install 
> Sierra. When you’re going through the “setup windows” after it first installs 
> and restarts you’ll get the “sign in to iCloud” screen. Click on “skip for 
> now”.
> Then after you’ve gone through everything else and get to the Finder, you can 
> then go to System Preferences - iCloud.
> From there you can then sign back into iCloud and then check on iCloud drive 
> and click on what things you want (or don’t want).
> I tend to always do this with setups and new set ups, as I can then control 
> what changes I’m being asked to do. It’s more of a “safe” way to do it I find.
> 
> Hope something there helps.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6
> 
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Re: iPhone upgrade issue

[Michael Hawkins]

Don't press, simply touch, the Home button

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> On 4 Oct. 2016, at 9:44 am, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> I have just installed system 10.0.2 on my iPhone6.   Mostly fine but unlocked 
> from sleep I get “ Voice Control” when pressing home button.
> 
> WHat can do to turn this off?
> 
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Re: macOS Sierra - iCloud - "Documents" folder on hard drive

[Michael Hawkins]

For those who don't know Graham and me, he was a Mac sceptic for a couple of 
decades before I could persuade him to try one out, and if I can draw a 
parallel with born again Christians, he is far more evangelical than they are.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Oct. 2016, at 11:25 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> Thanks for that.
> 
> Neither method you’ve referred to works. Documents and Desktop folders are 
> nowhere to be seen under first method and the only reference to those folders 
> in the Sidebar using the second method is under the iCloud section. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham  
>> On 1 Oct. 2016, at 8:28 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Graham
>> 
>> You can put the folders in the Sidebar one of two ways.
>> First is you can just drag the folder into the Sidebar (from Macintosh HD - 
>> Users - Yourname, and folders will be there). Then just drag them in.
>> The second way is in in the Finder, go to File menu then Preferences. Then 
>> choose “Sidebar” and you can tick (or untick) the things you want there).
>> 
>> That should get them back to you.
>> Will try answer the second later, as just dashing out.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Apple**
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Oct 2016, at 6:49 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for getting back to me. 
>>> 
>>> I no longer have folders under Favorites in Finder called “Desktop" and 
>>> “Documents” and have been unable to find anything on web about how to put 2 
>>> new folders there. Can you help?
>>> 
>>> Another thing - when I open a Word file I’m working on in iCloud Drive, it 
>>> opens up fine but when I right click on the file name at the top of the 
>>> screen, it shows its location still as if no change to iCloud has occurred 
>>> i.e. under my  previous User “Documents” folder in Favorites. There is no 
>>> reference to iCloud Drive (where I have to go to open it in Finder).
>>> 
>>> Weird.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Graham   
 On 30 Sep. 2016, at 1:57 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Graham,
 
 The documents that were originally on your startup drive are still there 
 after turning on syncing. 
 They have just been made invisible.
 
 A) Are you sure all your documents & desktop files have been uploaded to 
 iCloud Drive?
 B) Did you turn on “Optimize Mac Storage” under iCloud Drive settings? If 
 so Turn it OFF.
 C) And you are NOT wanting to use iCloud Drive, and you want your 
 Documents and Desktop files back on your Mac?
 
 NOTE: I’m assuming you have a bootable backup containing your Documents & 
 Desktop folders ‘Prior’ to installing macOS Sierra and turning iCloud 
 Drive ON and enabling iCloud sync for ‘Documents and Desktop’. 
 
 If all above is the case and you definitely have all your Documents and 
 Desktop and data backed up.
 In case you need to manually copy the data back over from your backup if 
 you lose it.
 ——
 When iCloud sync for ‘Documents and Desktop’ is enabled, macOS simply 
 moves the folders to the iCloud Drive folder.
 When you uncheck the Documents and Desktop settings, it breaks that link 
 and creates new folders, but leaves your folders and files on iCloud 
 Drive. - The new folders are empty.
 
 So what I would suggest you try:
 1. Go to your iCloud Drive and move the files back from the Documents and 
 Desktop folders in the iCloud drive to the Documents and Desktop folders 
 in your User home folder. 
 
 This is expressed in the dialog that shows up, but the wording is not very 
 clear.
 
 Check all your documents and desktop files are in your Finder Home Folders 
 on your Mac.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 8:57 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
> 
> Hi ronni,
> 
> Looking at this link 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7680027?start=0=0 makes me 
> think that my problem is not so easily resolved by unticking the Desktop 
> and Documents folder in iCloud under System Preferences.
> 
> By the way - I never even ticked the Desktop and Documents box under 
> iCloud at any time - that was how things were after installing Sierra.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham 
>> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 8:39 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for that Ronni.
>> 
>> If I go to iCloud in System Preferences and untick iCloud Drive, the 
>> message is “If you continue, documents on your Desktop and in your 
>> Documents folder will be visible in iCloud Drive only”. 
>> 
>> That is exactly what I do not want. 
>> 

Re: macOS Sierra - iCloud - "Documents" folder on hard drive

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello Graham,

I'm ever so grateful that WAMUG includes early adapters such as you. Rather 
ironic isn't it, given that you didn't discover Macs until your were at such an 
advanced age.

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Oct. 2016, at 11:25 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> Thanks for that.
> 
> Neither method you’ve referred to works. Documents and Desktop folders are 
> nowhere to be seen under first method and the only reference to those folders 
> in the Sidebar using the second method is under the iCloud section. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham  
>> On 1 Oct. 2016, at 8:28 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Graham
>> 
>> You can put the folders in the Sidebar one of two ways.
>> First is you can just drag the folder into the Sidebar (from Macintosh HD - 
>> Users - Yourname, and folders will be there). Then just drag them in.
>> The second way is in in the Finder, go to File menu then Preferences. Then 
>> choose “Sidebar” and you can tick (or untick) the things you want there).
>> 
>> That should get them back to you.
>> Will try answer the second later, as just dashing out.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Apple**
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 Oct 2016, at 6:49 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for getting back to me. 
>>> 
>>> I no longer have folders under Favorites in Finder called “Desktop" and 
>>> “Documents” and have been unable to find anything on web about how to put 2 
>>> new folders there. Can you help?
>>> 
>>> Another thing - when I open a Word file I’m working on in iCloud Drive, it 
>>> opens up fine but when I right click on the file name at the top of the 
>>> screen, it shows its location still as if no change to iCloud has occurred 
>>> i.e. under my  previous User “Documents” folder in Favorites. There is no 
>>> reference to iCloud Drive (where I have to go to open it in Finder).
>>> 
>>> Weird.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Graham   
 On 30 Sep. 2016, at 1:57 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Graham,
 
 The documents that were originally on your startup drive are still there 
 after turning on syncing. 
 They have just been made invisible.
 
 A) Are you sure all your documents & desktop files have been uploaded to 
 iCloud Drive?
 B) Did you turn on “Optimize Mac Storage” under iCloud Drive settings? If 
 so Turn it OFF.
 C) And you are NOT wanting to use iCloud Drive, and you want your 
 Documents and Desktop files back on your Mac?
 
 NOTE: I’m assuming you have a bootable backup containing your Documents & 
 Desktop folders ‘Prior’ to installing macOS Sierra and turning iCloud 
 Drive ON and enabling iCloud sync for ‘Documents and Desktop’. 
 
 If all above is the case and you definitely have all your Documents and 
 Desktop and data backed up.
 In case you need to manually copy the data back over from your backup if 
 you lose it.
 ——
 When iCloud sync for ‘Documents and Desktop’ is enabled, macOS simply 
 moves the folders to the iCloud Drive folder.
 When you uncheck the Documents and Desktop settings, it breaks that link 
 and creates new folders, but leaves your folders and files on iCloud 
 Drive. - The new folders are empty.
 
 So what I would suggest you try:
 1. Go to your iCloud Drive and move the files back from the Documents and 
 Desktop folders in the iCloud drive to the Documents and Desktop folders 
 in your User home folder. 
 
 This is expressed in the dialog that shows up, but the wording is not very 
 clear.
 
 Check all your documents and desktop files are in your Finder Home Folders 
 on your Mac.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 8:57 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
> 
> Hi ronni,
> 
> Looking at this link 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7680027?start=0=0 makes me 
> think that my problem is not so easily resolved by unticking the Desktop 
> and Documents folder in iCloud under System Preferences.
> 
> By the way - I never even ticked the Desktop and Documents box under 
> iCloud at any time - that was how things were after installing Sierra.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham 
>> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 8:39 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for that Ronni.
>> 
>> If I go to iCloud in System Preferences and untick iCloud Drive, the 
>> message is “If you continue, documents on your Desktop and in your 
>> Documents folder will be visible in iCloud Drive only”. 
>> 
>> That is exactly what I do not want. 
>> 
>> I just want to be where 

Re: macOS Sierra - iCloud - "Documents" folder on hard drive

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni,

What's the difference in result between hand-off and emailing to yourself, what 
ever you're working on?

Cheers,

Michael
Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 8:00 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hello Graham & Michael,
> 
> You DON’T have to use "iCloud Drive" unless you want to! 
> The first thing I do after installing a OS X update & iOS update is check 
> that iCloud Drive is NOT ON… & turn if OFF if it is.
> " iCloud Drive” is turned OFF on all my iDevices and computers.
> I use iCloud but NOT “iCloud Drive”!
> 
> Sierra adds a new iCloud Drive feature where you can integrate your Desktop 
> and Documents folders with iCloud Drive. 
> New! Documents and Desktop Folder Syncing
> Sierra adds a new iCloud Drive feature where you can integrate your Desktop 
> and Documents folders with iCloud Drive. 
> You may want to keep it OFF until you’ve had time to consider it’s pros and 
> cons— 
> —
> Have a read of the 'iCloud Drive FAQ'
> 
> 
> Use iCloud Drive to store documents, presentations, spreadsheets, PDFs, 
> images, you name it, on Apple’s servers. Everything you save here is 
> immediately synced and available on other compatible Apple devices you’ve set 
> up.
> 
> That means you can work on a document on your iPad and then open it later on 
> your Mac. In many cases, you can also work with it on the iCloud.com Web site.
> 
> Apple’s iCloud Drive stores your files in the cloud, making it easy to access 
> them on any of your Apple devices (or a Windows PC)—so long as the device has 
> a fast enough Internet connection. 
> 
> Drag files to and from the iCloud Drive folder in your Mac’s Finder, and 
> iCloud Drive syncs them across your devices so they’re always up to date.
> ==
> Re: Sierra ——— macOS Sierra 10.12:
> I have been running macOS Sierra 10.12 successfully on both my MacBook Pro 
> and MacBook Air, without any problems at all.
> But - I did follow my normal safety ‘Prepare' before upgrading any major 
> version of OS X.
> I updated all applications that had Sierra updates, did CCC bootable backups 
> / Time Machine as in my Post  to WAMUG members 23 Sept. 2016 at 8:15am - 
> Subject: Sierra
> 
> Prepare to upgrade:
> 1. Make sure your computer can run Sierra.
> 2. BACKUP! - BACKUP!
> 3. Make sure key software is up to date, and remove clutter that could 
> interfere with the upgrade. 
> 4. Decide which upgrade strategy is best for you
> etc etc etc as per my previous post.
> 
> I really like Sierra it is a very good upgrade. One of features I find 
> extremely useful is ‘Handoff’
> "Use Handoff to move seamlessly between your Apple devices. For instance, say 
> you start to write an email message on your Mac and then have to rush out the 
> door for work. While you wait at the train station, you can finish composing 
> the message on your iPhone. Or, say you start reading an article in Safari on 
> your iPad and then want to finish on your iMac at the office. 
> Handoff lets you pick up where you left off when using Calendar, Contacts, 
> Keynote, Mail, Maps, Messages, Notes, Numbers, Pages, Reminders, Safari, and 
> some third-party apps in Sierra and iOS 10”
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS Sierra 10.12
> 
>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 1:18 pm, Graham Rabe  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve upgraded to Sierra and all of my data in my previous “Documents” folder 
>> previously on my hard drive (in Finder under Documents”) is now only 
>> available in iCloud (where there is now a “Documents” folder). There is no 
>> longer a “Documents” folder listed anywhere on my hard drive. 
>> 
>> I’ve gone to System Preferences - iCloud and see that I can change that 
>> scenario (under Options). 
>> 
>> What I can’t figure out is that at the bottom of that Options box it states 
>> that “The full contents of iCloud Drive will be stored on this Mac if you 
>> have enough space. Older documents will be stored only in iCloud when space 
>> is needed.”
>> 
>> I have more than enough space on my hard drive. 
>> 
>> In the Finder menu, when I select  “Go” for “Documents” - it shows the 
>> documents in the iCloud section. 
>> 
>> My question is: where in Finder do I find all of my documents on my hard 
>> drive? Where are they “stored”?
>> 
>> Any views/recommendations about allowing all documents to be stored only on 
>> iCloud under this new regime would be appreciated. What and the hell happens 
>> when iCloud bombs out/is hacked etc etc? And if I use this iCloud method of 
>> saving all my data previously stored on the hard drive under the “Documents” 
>> folder, what work is my local Time Machine able to do by way of backing up 
>> (and/or other external drives that I use for backup backups for that 
>> matter). 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Graham Rabe 
>> 
>> iMac late 

Re: macOS Sierra - iCloud - "Documents" folder on hard drive

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello Graham,

I haven’t installed Sierra. 

I do not want to be forced to store or save things on anything other than my 
computer, I do not want my speed of access to documents to be governed by the 
number of people in my suburb who are on the internet, and I have no wish to be 
working with my head in the cloud…

Cheers,

Michael


> On 29 Sep 2016, at 4:02 PM, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I’m on a limitless plan with iinet. 
> 
> Have you upgraded to Sierra? If so - any problems?
> 
>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 3:46 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you're constantly shuttling between keyboard and iCloud, you must have a 
>> large monthly limit!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 2:50 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I use my credit card :)
>>>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 2:09 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And how do you fund your broadband connection?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 1:18 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve upgraded to Sierra and all of my data in my previous “Documents” 
>>>>> folder previously on my hard drive (in Finder under Documents”) is now 
>>>>> only available in iCloud (where there is now a “Documents” folder). There 
>>>>> is no longer a “Documents” folder listed anywhere on my hard drive. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve gone to System Preferences - iCloud and see that I can change that 
>>>>> scenario (under Options). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I can’t figure out is that at the bottom of that Options box it 
>>>>> states that “The full contents of iCloud Drive will be stored on this Mac 
>>>>> if you have enough space. Older documents will be stored only in iCloud 
>>>>> when space is needed.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have more than enough space on my hard drive. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the Finder menu, when I select  “Go” for “Documents” - it shows the 
>>>>> documents in the iCloud section. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My question is: where in Finder do I find all of my documents on my hard 
>>>>> drive? Where are they “stored”?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any views/recommendations about allowing all documents to be stored only 
>>>>> on iCloud under this new regime would be appreciated. What and the hell 
>>>>> happens when iCloud bombs out/is hacked etc etc? And if I use this iCloud 
>>>>> method of saving all my data previously stored on the hard drive under 
>>>>> the “Documents” folder, what work is my local Time Machine able to do by 
>>>>> way of backing up (and/or other external drives that I use for backup 
>>>>> backups for that matter). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Graham Rabe 
>>>>> 
>>>>> iMac late 2012
>>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12
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Re: macOS Sierra - iCloud - "Documents" folder on hard drive

[Michael Hawkins]

If you're constantly shuttling between keyboard and iCloud, you must have a 
large monthly limit!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 2:50 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I use my credit card :)
>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 2:09 pm, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> And how do you fund your broadband connection?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 1:18 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve upgraded to Sierra and all of my data in my previous “Documents” 
>>> folder previously on my hard drive (in Finder under Documents”) is now only 
>>> available in iCloud (where there is now a “Documents” folder). There is no 
>>> longer a “Documents” folder listed anywhere on my hard drive. 
>>> 
>>> I’ve gone to System Preferences - iCloud and see that I can change that 
>>> scenario (under Options). 
>>> 
>>> What I can’t figure out is that at the bottom of that Options box it states 
>>> that “The full contents of iCloud Drive will be stored on this Mac if you 
>>> have enough space. Older documents will be stored only in iCloud when space 
>>> is needed.”
>>> 
>>> I have more than enough space on my hard drive. 
>>> 
>>> In the Finder menu, when I select  “Go” for “Documents” - it shows the 
>>> documents in the iCloud section. 
>>> 
>>> My question is: where in Finder do I find all of my documents on my hard 
>>> drive? Where are they “stored”?
>>> 
>>> Any views/recommendations about allowing all documents to be stored only on 
>>> iCloud under this new regime would be appreciated. What and the hell 
>>> happens when iCloud bombs out/is hacked etc etc? And if I use this iCloud 
>>> method of saving all my data previously stored on the hard drive under the 
>>> “Documents” folder, what work is my local Time Machine able to do by way of 
>>> backing up (and/or other external drives that I use for backup backups for 
>>> that matter). 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Graham Rabe 
>>> 
>>> iMac late 2012
>>> macOS Sierra 10.12
>>> 
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Re: macOS Sierra - iCloud - "Documents" folder on hard drive

[Michael Hawkins]

And how do you fund your broadband connection?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 1:18 pm, Graham Rabe  wrote:
> 
> I’ve upgraded to Sierra and all of my data in my previous “Documents” folder 
> previously on my hard drive (in Finder under Documents”) is now only 
> available in iCloud (where there is now a “Documents” folder). There is no 
> longer a “Documents” folder listed anywhere on my hard drive. 
> 
> I’ve gone to System Preferences - iCloud and see that I can change that 
> scenario (under Options). 
> 
> What I can’t figure out is that at the bottom of that Options box it states 
> that “The full contents of iCloud Drive will be stored on this Mac if you 
> have enough space. Older documents will be stored only in iCloud when space 
> is needed.”
> 
> I have more than enough space on my hard drive. 
> 
> In the Finder menu, when I select  “Go” for “Documents” - it shows the 
> documents in the iCloud section. 
> 
> My question is: where in Finder do I find all of my documents on my hard 
> drive? Where are they “stored”?
> 
> Any views/recommendations about allowing all documents to be stored only on 
> iCloud under this new regime would be appreciated. What and the hell happens 
> when iCloud bombs out/is hacked etc etc? And if I use this iCloud method of 
> saving all my data previously stored on the hard drive under the “Documents” 
> folder, what work is my local Time Machine able to do by way of backing up 
> (and/or other external drives that I use for backup backups for that matter). 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Graham Rabe 
> 
> iMac late 2012
> macOS Sierra 10.12
> 
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Re: Virtual private network

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni,

It's magic!

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 10:14 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I'm familiar with the case you have and aware it covers a tiny part of the 
> top of the Touch ID / home button, but it shouldn't stop the finger print 
> being recognised.
> 
> Use these steps to enrol your fingerprint:
> 1. Make sure that the Home button and your finger are clean and dry.
> 2. Hold your device as you normally would when touching the Home button.
> 3. Touch your finger to the Home button (but don't press it) and hold it 
> there until you feel a quick vibration or until  you're asked to lift your 
> finger.
> 
> 4. Continue to lift and rest your finger slowly, making small adjustments to 
> the position of your finger each time.
> 5. After the initial scan completes, you'll be asked to adjust your grip to 
> capture the edges of your fingerprint.
> 
> 6. Hold your device as you normally would when unlocking it and touch the 
> adjacent outer areas of your fingertip, instead of the center portion that 
> you scanned first. 
> 
> cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 18 Jul 2016, at 8:23 AM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni,
>> 
>> The upper edge of the opening on the case for the iPhone6 covers the top 
>> portion of the finger sensor, including the part of the area within the 
>> silver ring around the sensor. However, cleaning the inside and outside of 
>> the case and the iPhone worked and my fingerprint was recorded despite my 
>> being scolded a number of times for not placing my finger so the entire 
>> sensing area was covered. That is a physical impossibility because the 
>> Lifeproof cover for the iPhone 6 does not line up with the sensor ring on 
>> the phone.
>> 
>> Cheers and thank you yet again, 
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 18 Jul 2016, at 6:26 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> The Lifeproof case compatible with iPhone works with the Touch ID. 
>>> It has a thin membrane that covers the Home button. 
>>> The case works with every iPhone feature and function, including Touch ID.
>>> If your case is compatible with your iPhone, but not working.
>>> 
>>> Remove the case.
>>> Delete the existing fingerprints. 
>>> Clean the iPhone.
>>> Reinstall the case.
>>> 
>>> If the fingerprint sensor still does not work try adding fingerprints with 
>>> the case on.
>>> Lifeproof does offer a 1 year replacement warranty on their cases.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 9:30 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I installed Cloak but had to uninstall it because it requires 
>>>> identification by finger print rather than password. My iPhone is in a 
>>>> Lifeproof case, and the design of the case masks part of the capacitator 
>>>> circle which reads fingerprint or thumbprint. Somewhat ironic that the 
>>>> case is made by Apple
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Hawkins
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 8:54 PM, Brian RISBEY <risb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Ronni for the Cloak suggestion, their support page had a lot of 
>>>>> useful information.
>>>>> If I go ahead, do they allow you to use Paypal or do they want your 
>>>>> credit card details, can't see payment methods explicitly mentioned. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian Risbey 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 17:01, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think you mean Avira Phantom VPN
>>>>> https://blog.avira.com/avira-phantom-vpn-now-available-apple-ios-mac/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Avira Phantom VPN is now available for Apple iOS & Mac!
>>>>> Protection for people with a mixed-technology portfolio
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m not familiar with this VPN as it was only released in June 2016. 
>>>>> The VPNs that I do know are  

Re: Virtual private network

[Michael Hawkins]

Apologies to all, instead of " finger sensor"  I should have written "Home 
button" but I'm sure you got my drift. 

Cheers,
Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 8:23 AM, Michael Hawkins 
> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni,
> 
> The upper edge of the opening on the case for the iPhone6 covers the top 
> portion of the finger sensor, including the part of the area within the 
> silver ring around the sensor. However, cleaning the inside and outside of 
> the case and the iPhone worked and my fingerprint was recorded despite my 
> being scolded a number of times for not placing my finger so the entire 
> sensing area was covered. That is a physical impossibility because the 
> Lifeproof cover for the iPhone 6 does not line up with the sensor ring on the 
> phone.
> 
> Cheers and thank you yet again, 
> 
> Michael
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 18 Jul 2016, at 6:26 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> The Lifeproof case compatible with iPhone works with the Touch ID. 
>> It has a thin membrane that covers the Home button. 
>> The case works with every iPhone feature and function, including Touch ID.
>> If your case is compatible with your iPhone, but not working.
>> 
>> Remove the case.
>> Delete the existing fingerprints. 
>> Clean the iPhone.
>> Reinstall the case.
>> 
>> If the fingerprint sensor still does not work try adding fingerprints with 
>> the case on.
>> Lifeproof does offer a 1 year replacement warranty on their cases.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 9:30 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I installed Cloak but had to uninstall it because it requires 
>>> identification by finger print rather than password. My iPhone is in a 
>>> Lifeproof case, and the design of the case masks part of the capacitator 
>>> circle which reads fingerprint or thumbprint. Somewhat ironic that the case 
>>> is made by Apple
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Michael Hawkins
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 8:54 PM, Brian RISBEY <risb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Ronni for the Cloak suggestion, their support page had a lot of 
>>>> useful information.
>>>> If I go ahead, do they allow you to use Paypal or do they want your credit 
>>>> card details, can't see payment methods explicitly mentioned. 
>>>> 
>>>> Brian Risbey 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 17:01, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>> 
>>>> I think you mean Avira Phantom VPN
>>>> https://blog.avira.com/avira-phantom-vpn-now-available-apple-ios-mac/
>>>> 
>>>> Avira Phantom VPN is now available for Apple iOS & Mac!
>>>> Protection for people with a mixed-technology portfolio
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not familiar with this VPN as it was only released in June 2016. 
>>>> The VPNs that I do know are  'PIA (privateinternetaccess) VPN’ and Cloak 
>>>>  
>>>> Public WiFi networks. Are they safe?
>>>> Exactly how unsafe are public hotspots?
>>>> VERY unsafe!
>>>> 
>>>> Airports, hotels… On vacation we also spend the whole day connected to the 
>>>> Internet. People want to be able to check Facebook, post photos on 
>>>> Instagram, tweet something they've  seen, and answer work emails from 
>>>> wherever they are… and it’s possible. We mostly do all these things from a 
>>>> smartphone, or perhaps from tablets or (increasingly less) from laptops.
>>>> 
>>>> It is quite common to scan for and connect to public WiFi networks which 
>>>> aren’t password-protected and let you connect to the Internet cheaply and 
>>>> simply. In fact, a typical selling-point of many restaurant chains, coffee 
>>>> shops, nowadays is that they offer free WiFi connections to customers, and 
>>>> in many places there are public WiFi hotspots provided by local councils.
>>>> 
>>>> When I have needed to use Public Wi-Fi Networks (Hotspots) when I’m out 
>>>> and about I’ve used CLOAK VPN.
>>>> The solution is to find a VPN provider with an app that is iOS compatible. 
>>>> I am v

Re: Virtual private network

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni,

The upper edge of the opening on the case for the iPhone6 covers the top 
portion of the finger sensor, including the part of the area within the silver 
ring around the sensor. However, cleaning the inside and outside of the case 
and the iPhone worked and my fingerprint was recorded despite my being scolded 
a number of times for not placing my finger so the entire sensing area was 
covered. That is a physical impossibility because the Lifeproof cover for the 
iPhone 6 does not line up with the sensor ring on the phone.

Cheers and thank you yet again, 

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Jul 2016, at 6:26 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> The Lifeproof case compatible with iPhone works with the Touch ID. 
> It has a thin membrane that covers the Home button. 
> The case works with every iPhone feature and function, including Touch ID.
> If your case is compatible with your iPhone, but not working.
> 
> Remove the case.
> Delete the existing fingerprints. 
> Clean the iPhone.
> Reinstall the case.
> 
> If the fingerprint sensor still does not work try adding fingerprints with 
> the case on.
> Lifeproof does offer a 1 year replacement warranty on their cases.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 9:30 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I installed Cloak but had to uninstall it because it requires identification 
>> by finger print rather than password. My iPhone is in a Lifeproof case, and 
>> the design of the case masks part of the capacitator circle which reads 
>> fingerprint or thumbprint. Somewhat ironic that the case is made by Apple
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 8:54 PM, Brian RISBEY <risb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you Ronni for the Cloak suggestion, their support page had a lot of 
>>> useful information.
>>> If I go ahead, do they allow you to use Paypal or do they want your credit 
>>> card details, can't see payment methods explicitly mentioned. 
>>> 
>>> Brian Risbey 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17 Jul 2016, at 17:01, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> I think you mean Avira Phantom VPN
>>> https://blog.avira.com/avira-phantom-vpn-now-available-apple-ios-mac/
>>> 
>>> Avira Phantom VPN is now available for Apple iOS & Mac!
>>> Protection for people with a mixed-technology portfolio
>>> 
>>> I’m not familiar with this VPN as it was only released in June 2016. 
>>> The VPNs that I do know are  'PIA (privateinternetaccess) VPN’ and Cloak 
>>>  
>>> Public WiFi networks. Are they safe?
>>> Exactly how unsafe are public hotspots?
>>> VERY unsafe!
>>> 
>>> Airports, hotels… On vacation we also spend the whole day connected to the 
>>> Internet. People want to be able to check Facebook, post photos on 
>>> Instagram, tweet something they've  seen, and answer work emails from 
>>> wherever they are… and it’s possible. We mostly do all these things from a 
>>> smartphone, or perhaps from tablets or (increasingly less) from laptops.
>>> 
>>> It is quite common to scan for and connect to public WiFi networks which 
>>> aren’t password-protected and let you connect to the Internet cheaply and 
>>> simply. In fact, a typical selling-point of many restaurant chains, coffee 
>>> shops, nowadays is that they offer free WiFi connections to customers, and 
>>> in many places there are public WiFi hotspots provided by local councils.
>>> 
>>> When I have needed to use Public Wi-Fi Networks (Hotspots) when I’m out and 
>>> about I’ve used CLOAK VPN.
>>> The solution is to find a VPN provider with an app that is iOS compatible. 
>>> I am very happy with Cloak. They have figured out how to deal with the 
>>> limitations of iOS. 
>>> Their app can easily set to trust particularly networks, e.g., your home 
>>> network, assuming it is protected, & you trust your ISP. 
>>> Everything else is untrusted and Cloak will connect with VPN.
>>> <https://www.getcloak.com>
>>> 
>>>  /Quote:
>>> Cloak secures your Internet traffic without the hassle
>>> 
>>> Thanks to iPads, iPhones, and ever-lighter MacBooks, we’re doing more work 
>>> and play while on the go than ever before. 
>>> A caveat of working this way, however, is

Re: Virtual private network

[Michael Hawkins]

I installed Cloak but had to uninstall it because it requires identification by 
finger print rather than password. My iPhone is in a Lifeproof case, and the 
design of the case masks part of the capacitator circle which reads fingerprint 
or thumbprint. Somewhat ironic that the case is made by Apple
Cheers,

Michael Hawkins

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Jul 2016, at 8:54 PM, Brian RISBEY <risb...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Ronni for the Cloak suggestion, their support page had a lot of 
> useful information.
> If I go ahead, do they allow you to use Paypal or do they want your credit 
> card details, can't see payment methods explicitly mentioned. 
> 
> Brian Risbey 
> 
> 
> 
> On 17 Jul 2016, at 17:01, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I think you mean Avira Phantom VPN
> https://blog.avira.com/avira-phantom-vpn-now-available-apple-ios-mac/
> 
> Avira Phantom VPN is now available for Apple iOS & Mac!
> Protection for people with a mixed-technology portfolio
> 
> I’m not familiar with this VPN as it was only released in June 2016. 
> The VPNs that I do know are  'PIA (privateinternetaccess) VPN’ and Cloak 
>  
> Public WiFi networks. Are they safe?
> Exactly how unsafe are public hotspots?
> VERY unsafe!
> 
> Airports, hotels… On vacation we also spend the whole day connected to the 
> Internet. People want to be able to check Facebook, post photos on Instagram, 
> tweet something they've  seen, and answer work emails from wherever they are… 
> and it’s possible. We mostly do all these things from a smartphone, or 
> perhaps from tablets or (increasingly less) from laptops.
> 
> It is quite common to scan for and connect to public WiFi networks which 
> aren’t password-protected and let you connect to the Internet cheaply and 
> simply. In fact, a typical selling-point of many restaurant chains, coffee 
> shops, nowadays is that they offer free WiFi connections to customers, and in 
> many places there are public WiFi hotspots provided by local councils.
> 
> When I have needed to use Public Wi-Fi Networks (Hotspots) when I’m out and 
> about I’ve used CLOAK VPN.
> The solution is to find a VPN provider with an app that is iOS compatible. 
> I am very happy with Cloak. They have figured out how to deal with the 
> limitations of iOS. 
> Their app can easily set to trust particularly networks, e.g., your home 
> network, assuming it is protected, & you trust your ISP. 
> Everything else is untrusted and Cloak will connect with VPN.
> <https://www.getcloak.com>
> 
>  /Quote:
> Cloak secures your Internet traffic without the hassle
> 
> Thanks to iPads, iPhones, and ever-lighter MacBooks, we’re doing more work 
> and play while on the go than ever before. 
> A caveat of working this way, however, is that most public Wi-Fi networks 
> (hotspots) are anything but secure, which means they’re prime targets for 
> would-be hackers, identity thieves, and general do-no-gooders.
>  
> If you’re lucky, your company provides you with a virtual private network 
> (VPN) for securing your Internet activities. 
> But if you’re like the rest of us, you need to fend for yourself if you want 
> to hide your login credentials, email, and other sensitive activity from 
> prying eyes. 
> 
> That’s where Cloak comes in.
> 
> Put simply, Cloak is a VPN that just works. It encrypts all your Internet 
> traffic so other users on the same network can’t snoop over your shoulder, so 
> to speak. But Cloak does away with the typical VPN song and dance of digging 
> into System Preferences and filling in a bunch of cryptic server details and 
> protocols—not to mention having to shop for and set up your own VPN service 
> in the first place. With Cloak, you simply sign up for an account at 
> GetCloak.com and install a little menu-bar utility.
> /End Quote
> ---
> PIA (privateinternetaccess) VPN  now have PIA App for iOS but I have not 
> installed or used it.
> <https://helpdesk.privateinternetaccess.com/hc/en-us/sections/204209807-Setup-Guides-Mobile>
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
>> On 16 Jul 2016, at 3:54 AM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I recently installed Avril anti-virus software. I have since received an 
>> email from Avril offering a virtual private network for use particularly 
>> when logging onto the net using public wi-fi spots or when logging on to do 
>> Internet banking. Is this software safe? Would it be permissible for me to 
>> forward to WAMUG the email I've received from Avril?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
>> 
>> Sent from my

Re: Virtual private network

[Michael Hawkins]

Yes Ronni,

I had received email from Avira about the phantom vpn but I wanted to know 
whether I'd breach netiquette if I used the link I my email. I wanted to know 
if the threat it defused was real or not.

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Jul 2016, at 5:01 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I think you mean Avira Phantom VPN
> https://blog.avira.com/avira-phantom-vpn-now-available-apple-ios-mac/
> 
> Avira Phantom VPN is now available for Apple iOS & Mac!
> Protection for people with a mixed-technology portfolio
> 
> I’m not familiar with this VPN as it was only released in June 2016. 
> The VPNs that I do know are  'PIA (privateinternetaccess) VPN’ and Cloak 
>  
> Public WiFi networks. Are they safe?
> Exactly how unsafe are public hotspots?
> VERY unsafe!
> 
> Airports, hotels… On vacation we also spend the whole day connected to the 
> Internet. People want to be able to check Facebook, post photos on Instagram, 
> tweet something they've  seen, and answer work emails from wherever they are… 
> and it’s possible. We mostly do all these things from a smartphone, or 
> perhaps from tablets or (increasingly less) from laptops.
> 
> It is quite common to scan for and connect to public WiFi networks which 
> aren’t password-protected and let you connect to the Internet cheaply and 
> simply. In fact, a typical selling-point of many restaurant chains, coffee 
> shops, nowadays is that they offer free WiFi connections to customers, and in 
> many places there are public WiFi hotspots provided by local councils.
> 
> When I have needed to use Public Wi-Fi Networks (Hotspots) when I’m out and 
> about I’ve used CLOAK VPN.
> The solution is to find a VPN provider with an app that is iOS compatible. 
> I am very happy with Cloak. They have figured out how to deal with the 
> limitations of iOS. 
> Their app can easily set to trust particularly networks, e.g., your home 
> network, assuming it is protected, & you trust your ISP. 
> Everything else is untrusted and Cloak will connect with VPN.
> <https://www.getcloak.com>
> 
>  /Quote:
> Cloak secures your Internet traffic without the hassle
> 
> Thanks to iPads, iPhones, and ever-lighter MacBooks, we’re doing more work 
> and play while on the go than ever before. 
> A caveat of working this way, however, is that most public Wi-Fi networks 
> (hotspots) are anything but secure, which means they’re prime targets for 
> would-be hackers, identity thieves, and general do-no-gooders.
>  
> If you’re lucky, your company provides you with a virtual private network 
> (VPN) for securing your Internet activities. 
> But if you’re like the rest of us, you need to fend for yourself if you want 
> to hide your login credentials, email, and other sensitive activity from 
> prying eyes. 
> 
> That’s where Cloak comes in.
> 
> Put simply, Cloak is a VPN that just works. It encrypts all your Internet 
> traffic so other users on the same network can’t snoop over your shoulder, so 
> to speak. But Cloak does away with the typical VPN song and dance of digging 
> into System Preferences and filling in a bunch of cryptic server details and 
> protocols—not to mention having to shop for and set up your own VPN service 
> in the first place. With Cloak, you simply sign up for an account at 
> GetCloak.com and install a little menu-bar utility.
> /End Quote
> ---
> PIA (privateinternetaccess) VPN  now have PIA App for iOS but I have not 
> installed or used it.
> <https://helpdesk.privateinternetaccess.com/hc/en-us/sections/204209807-Setup-Guides-Mobile>
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
>> On 16 Jul 2016, at 3:54 AM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I recently installed Avril anti-virus software. I have since received an 
>> email from Avril offering a virtual private network for use particularly 
>> when logging onto the net using public wi-fi spots or when logging on to do 
>> Internet banking. Is this software safe? Would it be permissible for me to 
>> forward to WAMUG the email I've received from Avril?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Virtual private network

[Michael Hawkins]

To clarify my previous email, the service offered is encryption software.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 16 Jul 2016, at 3:54 AM, Michael Hawkins 
> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I recently installed Avril anti-virus software. I have since received an 
> email from Avril offering a virtual private network for use particularly when 
> logging onto the net using public wi-fi spots or when logging on to do 
> Internet banking. Is this software safe? Would it be permissible for me to 
> forward to WAMUG the email I've received from Avril?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael Hawkins
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Virtual private network

[Michael Hawkins]

I recently installed Avril anti-virus software. I have since received an email 
from Avril offering a virtual private network for use particularly when logging 
onto the net using public wi-fi spots or when logging on to do Internet 
banking. Is this software safe? Would it be permissible for me to forward to 
WAMUG the email I've received from Avril?

Regards,

Michael Hawkins

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Re: All sent mail has vanished from Mail

[Michael Hawkins]

Good morning Ronni,

Yes, I did as you advised and recreated the envelope index database and 
imported messages. The "Sent" mailbox still does not include any mail sent 
prior to when the box was emptied. After I'd recreated the index database and 
imported messages I installed
Avira which reported three alerts.

The reason I thought about going to iiNet was that last year Westnet suggested 
I rationalise my email connections, which I did. I've had intermittent email 
problems ever since. 

I also learned a sad fact of life yesterday - it seems to be all but impossible 
to buy an external drive which has a FireWire connection port and so my backup 
yesterday was done using USB 2.

Cheers,

Michael



Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Jul 2016, at 7:39 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> The problems are not related to your ISP iiNet connection. The problems are 
> on your operating system, your computer.
> 
> Did you complete the recreating of the Envelope Index database following my 
> previous instructions?
> 
> quit Mail, navigate to ~/Library/ Mail/V2/MailData and drag the files 
> Envelope Index, Envelope Index- shm, and Envelope Index-wal to the Trash. 
> 
> Then Open Mail again, it’ll tell you that you need to “import” all your 
> messages (just as it may have done when you upgraded from Mavericks to 
> Yosemite). 
> Let it do so—it’s recreating your envelope index from scratch.
> 
> Do you have any third party software installed, or Anti-Virus like Sophos?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 2:39 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni, I’ll do as you’ve suggested.
>> 
>> I’ve just tried to backup by using SuperDuper, and have received the 
>> following error message:
>> 
>> | 11:31:41 AM | Info |   Unable to open source file 
>> /Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
>>  due to error: 13, Permission denied
>> | 11:31:41 AM | Info |   Error copying 
>> /Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
>>  to /Volumes/My Passport for 
>> Mac/Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
>>  of type 8 due to error 13
>> | 11:31:41 AM | Error | SDCopy: Error copying 
>> /Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
>>  to /Volumes/My Passport for 
>> Mac/Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
>>  of type 8 due to error 13: Permission denied
>> 
>> 
>> Looks like I may have to go to iinet to get something sorted out.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael.
>>>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 10:16 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 8:41 AM, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> One other thing has happened, and that is that the hard-drive icon does 
>>>> not show up on the desktop. It was there when I shut down the computer 
>>>> last night, but didn't appear when I started the computer up this morning. 
>>>> Repairing permissions and restarting did not reinstate the icon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On your Desktop - Click on Finder > Preferences in Menu Bar top left 
>>> Select  General - Show these items on the desktop 
>>> Select ✔ all Hard disks, External disks, CDs, DVDs, and iPods, Connected 
>>> servers
>>> 
>>> Also still in Finder Preferences - check Sidebar & Advanced that your 
>>> settings are as you want.
>>> 
>>> Deleting the Desktop Preference file to fix your other problem, can cause 
>>> some settings to change back to default.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
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Re: All sent mail has vanished from Mail

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni, I’ll do as you’ve suggested.

I’ve just tried to backup by using SuperDuper, and have received the following 
error message:

| 11:31:41 AM | Info |   Unable to open source file 
/Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au 
<mailto:Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au>/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
 due to error: 13, Permission denied
| 11:31:41 AM | Info |   Error copying 
/Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au 
<mailto:Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au>/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
 to /Volumes/My Passport for 
Mac/Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au 
<mailto:Mac/Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au>/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
 of type 8 due to error 13
| 11:31:41 AM | Error | SDCopy: Error copying 
/Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au 
<mailto:Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au>/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
 to /Volumes/My Passport for 
Mac/Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au 
<mailto:Mac/Users/michael/Library/Mail/V2/pop-hawk...@mail.iinet.net.au>/INBOX.mbox/903F6D09-E1B5-4CC2-92F6-0CD83639ACEC/Data/4/1/Messages/14557.emlx
 of type 8 due to error 13: Permission denied


Looks like I may have to go to iinet to get something sorted out.

Cheers,

Michael.
> On 8 Jul 2016, at 10:16 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com 
> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 8:41 AM, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> One other thing has happened, and that is that the hard-drive icon does not 
>> show up on the desktop. It was there when I shut down the computer last 
>> night, but didn't appear when I started the computer up this morning. 
>> Repairing permissions and restarting did not reinstate the icon.
> 
> 
> On your Desktop - Click on Finder > Preferences in Menu Bar top left 
> Select  General - Show these items on the desktop 
> Select ✔ all Hard disks, External disks, CDs, DVDs, and iPods, Connected 
> servers
> 
> Also still in Finder Preferences - check Sidebar & Advanced that your 
> settings are as you want.
> 
> Deleting the Desktop Preference file to fix your other problem, can cause 
> some settings to change back to default.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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Re: All sent mail has vanished from Mail

[Michael Hawkins]

Good morning Ronni,

I took the suggested steps, but the missing sent mail was not reinstated. Mail 
sent since the day on which the sent mailbox emptied itself is there, but the 
sent mail that had gone missing was not reinstated.

One other thing has happened, and that is that the hard-drive icon does not 
show up on the desktop. It was there when I shut down the computer last night, 
but didn't appear when I started the computer up this morning. Repairing 
permissions and restarting did not reinstate the icon.

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Jul 2016, at 6:25 AM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> OK, so now I know that Rebuilding the Sent Mailbox in Yosemite Mail version 
> 8.2 (2104) did not solve the problem.
> You need to recreate the envelope index from scratch. Explanation and details 
> how below:
> --
> If your envelope index—a special database that Mail uses to track which 
> messages are in which mailboxes—and the other files that Mail uses to catalog 
> messages become damaged, Mail may exhibit any of several symptoms, including:
> 
> • Missing messages
> 
> • Incorrect message counts, in which the number of unread messages shown next 
> to the mailbox name in the sidebar differs from the number of unread messages 
> you see inside the mailbox
> 
> • An empty mailbox, even though you know it contains messages
> 
> • Failure to move messages into a mailbox (manually or using rules)
> 
> If you suspect that a mailbox contains errors, the standard cure-all is to 
> rebuild it. To do this, select the mailbox (or mailboxes, by holding down the 
> Shift key and clicking them) and choose Mailbox > Rebuild.
> 
> If that doesn’t solve the problem, quit Mail, navigate to ~/Library/ 
> Mail/V2/MailData and drag the files Envelope Index, Envelope Index- shm, and 
> Envelope Index-wal to the Trash. 
> 
> Then Open Mail again, it’ll tell you that you need to “import” all your 
> messages (just as it may have done when you upgraded from Mavericks to 
> Yosemite). 
> Let it do so—it’s recreating your envelope index from scratch, but don’t 
> worry, you won’t lose any messages, labels, message status, or other data— 
> and when it finishes, your mailboxes should behave correctly.
> 
> Let us know if this solves the problem please.
> 
> WAMUG please note - I will be without Power from 8AM until 5PM today, so no 
> Internet Network connection. 
> I will be using hotspot from my iPhone data for essential client email.
> I’m hoping the power will come back sooner than 5PM!!
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
>> On 21 Jun 2016, at 6:20 AM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni, I’ll give that a go.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21 Jun 2016, at 6:18 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Michael,
>>> 
>>> Have you tried rebuilding the sent mailbox
>>> Click on Sent mailbox in Left column.
>>> In Menu bar - Go to Mailbox > Rebuild
>>> 
>>> It could take awhile to rebuild.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 21 Jun 2016, at 12:32 AM, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> The “sent” mailbox on my MacBook Pro (17 - inch, late 2011) emptied itself 
>>>> this evening. I did not do anything which caused it to do so. Yosemite OS 
>>>> 10.10.5, Mail version 8.2 (2104)
>>>> 
>>>> I’m with Westnet
>>>> 
>>>> Suggestions for recovery would be very welcome.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Hawkins
> 
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Re: Folders

[Michael Hawkins]

Unfortunately no Ronni, rebuilding the sent mailbox did not work.

I’ve learned to live with out them.

Cheers,

Michael.


> On 7 Jul 2016, at 10:15 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Good to hear Michael,
> 
> Did my instructions to rebuild the sent mailbox sort your previous post 
> Re: "All sent mail has vanished from Mail"?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 7 Jul 2016, at 9:32 PM, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Ronni,
>> 
>> I'm pleased (and relieved) to say that steps 1 to 3 in your email worked a 
>> treat. Thank you,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 12:52 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 6 Jul 2016, at 10:34 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au 
>>>> <mailto:michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I attempted to tidy up the desktop on my MacBook Pro by creating new 
>>>> Folders, naming them, and dragging and dropping into the new Folders the 
>>>> various items I’d saved on the Desktop.
>>>> 
>>>> For some reason (a) various items that I had not dragged into a Folder are 
>>>> now in the Folder, (b) each new Folder contains a folder which has the 
>>>> same name as the Folder on the desktop and (c) each of the folders within 
>>>> a Folder contains the same items as are in the Folder I created.
>>>> 
>>>> What has gone wrong, and how can I correct it?
>>>> 
>>>> MacBook Pro 17 inch, late 2011
>>>> 2.4 GHz intel Core i7
>>>> 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
>>>> 
>>>> Yosemite version 10.10.5
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Hawkins
>>> 
>>> Hello Michael,
>>> 
>>> Are sure you created New Folders not Smart Folders, and moved the items 
>>> correctly into the New Folders?
>>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18762?locale=en_US 
>>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18762?locale=en_US>>
>>> 
>>> If so:
>>> Try deleting the Desktop Preference file. 
>>> 1. Go to your user   ~/library 
>>> In Finder, Hold down the Alt (Option) & click Go menu - select Library 
>>> (The user library folder is listed below the current user's home directory.)
>>> 
>>> 2. Open Library - then scroll to Preferences and find 
>>> com.apple.finder.plist and move it to your Desktop. (don't worry, it will 
>>> recreate when you restart finder.)
>>> 
>>> 3. Restart your MBP
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
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Re: Folders

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello Ronni,

I'm pleased (and relieved) to say that steps 1 to 3 in your email worked a 
treat. Thank you,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Jul 2016, at 12:52 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 6 Jul 2016, at 10:34 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I attempted to tidy up the desktop on my MacBook Pro by creating new 
>> Folders, naming them, and dragging and dropping into the new Folders the 
>> various items I’d saved on the Desktop.
>> 
>> For some reason (a) various items that I had not dragged into a Folder are 
>> now in the Folder, (b) each new Folder contains a folder which has the same 
>> name as the Folder on the desktop and (c) each of the folders within a 
>> Folder contains the same items as are in the Folder I created.
>> 
>> What has gone wrong, and how can I correct it?
>> 
>> MacBook Pro 17 inch, late 2011
>> 2.4 GHz intel Core i7
>> 8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
>> 
>> Yosemite version 10.10.5
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> Are sure you created New Folders not Smart Folders, and moved the items 
> correctly into the New Folders?
> <https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18762?locale=en_US>
> 
> If so:
> Try deleting the Desktop Preference file. 
> 1. Go to your user   ~/library 
> In Finder, Hold down the Alt (Option) & click Go menu - select Library 
> (The user library folder is listed below the current user's home directory.)
> 
> 2. Open Library - then scroll to Preferences and find com.apple.finder.plist 
> and move it to your Desktop. (don't worry, it will recreate when you restart 
> finder.)
> 
> 3. Restart your MBP
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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Folders

[Michael Hawkins]

I attempted to tidy up the desktop on my MacBook Pro by creating new Folders, 
naming them, and dragging and dropping into the new Folders the various items 
I’d saved on the Desktop.

For some reason (a) various items that I had not dragged into a Folder are now 
in the Folder, (b) each new Folder contains a folder which has the same name as 
the Folder on the desktop and (c) each of the folders within a Folder contains 
the same items as are in the Folder I created.

What has gone wrong, and how can I correct it?

MacBook Pro 17 inch, late 2011
2.4 GHz intel Core i7
8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3

Yosemite version 10.10.5

Thank you,

Michael Hawkins
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Re: All sent mail has vanished from Mail

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni, I’ll give that a go.

Cheers,

Michael.


> On 21 Jun 2016, at 6:18 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> Have you tried rebuilding the sent mailbox
> Click on Sent mailbox in Left column.
> In Menu bar - Go to Mailbox > Rebuild
> 
> It could take awhile to rebuild.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 21 Jun 2016, at 12:32 AM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> The “sent” mailbox on my MacBook Pro (17 - inch, late 2011) emptied itself 
>> this evening. I did not do anything which caused it to do so. Yosemite OS 
>> 10.10.5, Mail version 8.2 (2104)
>> 
>> I’m with Westnet
>> 
>> Suggestions for recovery would be very welcome.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
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All sent mail has vanished from Mail

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello,

The “sent” mailbox on my MacBook Pro (17 - inch, late 2011) emptied itself this 
evening. I did not do anything which caused it to do so. Yosemite OS 10.10.5, 
Mail version 8.2 (2104)
 
I’m with Westnet

Suggestions for recovery would be very welcome.

Cheers,

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Re: All Contacts lost

[Michael Hawkins]

I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more insidiously 
insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to iOS but can't work out 
a safe way of finding out before I download and install what the update will 
actually do. I feel as if the update has already been downloaded - that's the 
inference I draw from messages telling me the update is ready to install. 
iTunes has run rampant through my music and CDs I had the right to copy onto my 
laptop seem to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're on loan from 
Apple. Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in the late 
nineties and early 2000's come to the fore

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich <rb...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Blasphemy! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Windows is starting to look strangely attractive
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Getting worse!
>>> 
>>> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ronni,
>>>> 
>>>> This is weird.
>>>> 
>>>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>>>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>>>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>>>> Contacts are there!
>>>> 
>>>>  Bill
>>>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok Bill,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You said you have Time Machine Backups
>>>>> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This folder needs to be restored:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
>>>>> 
>>>>> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option 
>>>>> key and selecting
>>>>>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
>>>>> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Enter Time Machine 
>>>>> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
>>>>> Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
>>>>> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
>>>>> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
>>>>> contacts listed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>>>> 
>>>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ronni,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I 
>>>>>> put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually 
>>>>>> come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to 
>>>>>>> the list.
>>>>>>> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
>>>>>>> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)

Re: All Contacts lost

[Michael Hawkins]

Windows is starting to look strangely attractive

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Getting worse!
> 
> Now Contacts has “self restored”.
> 
> Bill
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Ronni,
>> 
>> This is weird.
>> 
>> I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in TIme 
>> Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where you 
>> suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address Book nor 
>> Contacts are there!
>> 
>>  Bill
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok Bill,
>>> 
>>> You said you have Time Machine Backups
>>> Quit all applications, or at least - Quit Mail and Contacts.
>>> 
>>> If you need to Restore from Time Machine backup:
>>> 
>>> This folder needs to be restored:
>>> 
>>> ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
>>> 
>>> Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the option key 
>>> and selecting
>>>   Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar. 
>>> Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated 
>>> 
>>> Enter Time Machine 
>>> Then Go to ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook and Restore the 
>>> Address Book content from a Time Machine backup
>>> Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder from the backup and 
>>> overwrite the contents of this folder on your system drive.
>>> 
>>> Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see your 
>>> contacts listed.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
 
 Ronni,
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact I put 
 in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they usually come 
 up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several regulars missing)
 
 Bill
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through to 
> the list.
> Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was down which did 
> come to the list... But my original reply message has not?? Go figure :)
> So I've copied my reply message to you below:
> --- 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> If you are using iCloud:
> 
> Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and Contacts is 
> Selected.
> Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it.
> 
> If you are NOT using iCloud. 
> 
> Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click 
> Contacts Card: "Open Button”. 
> All cards previously in your Address Book should recover.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Wamuggers,
>> 
>> I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I 
>> typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found 
>> nothing.  All my contacts gone.
>> 
>> I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the 
>> contacts entries.
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Bill
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Re: Dictation not showing command list

[Michael Hawkins]

Bill,

Did you use Mac Dictation or Nuance for your email?

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Apr 2016, at 4:23 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> I use Nuance Dragon.  If I needed “enjo” I would not say en yo.rather en jo 
> and correct the result.  However if I wanted to write a chemical word I would 
> split it up.  However, Mac Diustation is so slow and makes so many mistakes I 
> cannot use it.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2016, at 18:48, gdorn@me  wrote:
>> 
>> Can dictation  "learn" words
>> 
>> in appleworks, I use to be able to add words to dictionary  - ie English 
>> spelling
>> 
>> Does dictation have a similar capability.
>> 
>> Eg.  try saying  " Enjo" and see what you get  ( we usually get " you know"
>> 
>> chow
>> 
>> gdorn
>> gd...@mac.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14/04/2016, at 10:39 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kaye,
>>> 
>>> Is she trying to access the “show Commands” this way?
>>> To see a list of all the commands you can access, activate Dictation (press 
>>> fn fn), wait for the beep, and then say “Show commands”
>>> 
>>> When you're dictating, pause before saying a command. Otherwise, OS X may 
>>> interpret it as dictation.
>>> 
>>> Check in System Preferences > Accessibility and choose Dictation in the 
>>> list to the left. 
>>> Click 'Dictation Commands' and then select the 'Enable Advanced Commands' 
>>> option. 
>>> Click done in the preference pane to activate advanced commands.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
 On 14 Apr 2016, at 8:29 AM, kaye and geoff  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a friend with failing eyesight who is using Enhanced Dictation 
 under El Capitan. Until recently everything worked well, but now the 
 spoken request "Show Commands" returns a formatted screen with no commands 
 listed. She normally dictates in French, but we switched to English (and 
 to Spanish) and tried them with the same result. Dictation continues to 
 work - it responds to the spoken commands and produces documents from 
 spoken dictation in all three languages - but she can no longer get a list 
 of the commands available to be recognised.
 
 Has anyone else seen this behaviour or have any idea of where we start 
 looking to get her commands displayed. She is unaware of doing anything 
 that may have caused the problem, and I can't find anything in her 
 settings that could turn off displaying the commands.
 
 Cheers, Kaye
 
 Kaye and Geoff
 k...@kgweb.org.au
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Re: mail signatures gone

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello Bill,

Nice to know your aliases haven't gone off and deserted you.

Michael.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Feb 2016, at 11:20 AM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Ronni,
> 
> The odd thing is that they were all there last night before I shut down the 
> MBP!
> 
> All back - 
> 
> Bill
>> On 23 Feb 2016, at 11:12, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> Have you dragged all the signatures from the Center Column onto your Westnet 
>> Mail Account name at the left column?
>> 
>> Assign a signature to one account, or to multiple accounts. 
>> To do so, drag a signature’s name from the middle column onto an account 
>> name at the left.
>> The number under the account name indicates how many signatures are 
>> associated with that account. 
>> To see just the signatures in one account, select the account name on the 
>> left.
>> 
>> Mail > Preferences > Signatures. 
>> The left column lists your email accounts, the center column lists your 
>> signatures, and the right column displays the contents of each signature.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>> On 23 Feb 2016, at 10:04 AM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Suddenly all my signatures have gone.   
>>> 
>>> They still exist when I go to Preferences but in composing a new email  
>>> there is only one (shown below)
>>> 
>>> Can anyone help please?
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill Parker
>>> ren...@westnet.com.au
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Re: Backup or sync iPhone?

[Michael Hawkins]

To me to synchronise in ordinary English language means to match, but if the 
computer is the master and iPhone is the slave I'm reluctant to synchronise 
because this must mean that anything on the iPhone that is not on the computer 
will be deleted. Or is this another example of the a use by computer geeks of 
ordinary English language? Will items on the iPhone which are not on the 
computer b replicated on the computer as part of the synchronisation process?

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Jan 2016, at 8:30 AM, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote:
> 
> A backup also looks after all your settings so you can reinstate a device 
> following a calamity. 
> 
> If you are comfortable not having this option, then don't worry about it. 
> 
>>>>  If I sync my iPhone  with the  computer  does it mean that photos get 
>>>> removed from my computer if they're not on the iPhone?
> 
> No. The computer is the master, the iPhone the slave. 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 7:57 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> My question is  - back-up what exactly?  
>> 
>> The only thing I have on my iPhone is a small collection of reference photos 
>> which get copied ( that’s a verb I actually understand) to my MBP and 
>> deleted off the phone.  The rest is a series of partly finished crossword 
>> puzzles and a partly read novel.
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 00:14, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael, I also found another article which takes you through all of it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://deciphertools.com/blog/2015_01_27_itunes_sync_vs_backup_ensure_data/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is a step by step guide similar to what Ronni would give you.
>>> 
>>> If neither of these threads make sense to you its possible to just do your 
>>> own Google search.
>>> 
>>> cheers, Susan.
>>> 
>>>> On 3 Jan 2016, at 4:57 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm a tad confused about the advantages and differences between backing up 
>>>> my iPhone and syncing my iPhone. 
>>>> 
>>>> I avoid technological clouds  of any description as much as I can, and so 
>>>> I assume if I backup my iPhone I plug it in to my computer and save the 
>>>> entire contents into iTunes. 
>>>> 
>>>> I also assume that if I lose or destroy or break my iPhone somehow, I can 
>>>> download to the replacement iPhone the content saved on my MacBook Pro, 
>>>> including photos and videos.
>>>> 
>>>> I think that if I sync my iPhone to my computer, all I do is transfer from 
>>>> the computer to the iPhone photos that aren't on the iPhone and content in 
>>>> iTunes from he computer to the iPhone that isn't in the IPhone, and 
>>>> vice-versa.
>>>> 
>>>> Syncing: What happens to music I've got on my computer, that I didn't buy 
>>>> through iTunes? By law I'm allowed to copy a cd I have bought. Does it get 
>>>> transferred to my iPhone when I sync the phone with he computer or, if 
>>>> it's music get is not on the iPhone, does syncing mean that it gets 
>>>> removed from the computer?
>>>> 
>>>> And how do photos fare? I've got hundreds of photos on the computer they 
>>>> aren't on the iPhone, and dozens on the iPhone that aren't in the 
>>>> computer. If I sync my iPhone  with the  computer  does it mean that 
>>>> photos get removed from my computer if they're not on the iPhone?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
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>> 
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Re: Backup or sync iPhone?

[Michael Hawkins]

Music, books, contact details .. Recordings 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Jan 2016, at 7:57 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> My question is  - back-up what exactly?  
> 
> The only thing I have on my iPhone is a small collection of reference photos 
> which get copied ( that’s a verb I actually understand) to my MBP and deleted 
> off the phone.  The rest is a series of partly finished crossword puzzles and 
> a partly read novel.
> Bill
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 00:14, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael, I also found another article which takes you through all of it.
>> 
>> 
>> https://deciphertools.com/blog/2015_01_27_itunes_sync_vs_backup_ensure_data/
>> 
>> 
>> It is a step by step guide similar to what Ronni would give you.
>> 
>> If neither of these threads make sense to you its possible to just do your 
>> own Google search.
>> 
>> cheers, Susan.
>> 
>>> On 3 Jan 2016, at 4:57 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm a tad confused about the advantages and differences between backing up 
>>> my iPhone and syncing my iPhone. 
>>> 
>>> I avoid technological clouds  of any description as much as I can, and so I 
>>> assume if I backup my iPhone I plug it in to my computer and save the 
>>> entire contents into iTunes. 
>>> 
>>> I also assume that if I lose or destroy or break my iPhone somehow, I can 
>>> download to the replacement iPhone the content saved on my MacBook Pro, 
>>> including photos and videos.
>>> 
>>> I think that if I sync my iPhone to my computer, all I do is transfer from 
>>> the computer to the iPhone photos that aren't on the iPhone and content in 
>>> iTunes from he computer to the iPhone that isn't in the IPhone, and 
>>> vice-versa.
>>> 
>>> Syncing: What happens to music I've got on my computer, that I didn't buy 
>>> through iTunes? By law I'm allowed to copy a cd I have bought. Does it get 
>>> transferred to my iPhone when I sync the phone with he computer or, if it's 
>>> music get is not on the iPhone, does syncing mean that it gets removed from 
>>> the computer?
>>> 
>>> And how do photos fare? I've got hundreds of photos on the computer they 
>>> aren't on the iPhone, and dozens on the iPhone that aren't in the computer. 
>>> If I sync my iPhone  with the  computer  does it mean that photos get 
>>> removed from my computer if they're not on the iPhone?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Backup or sync iPhone?

[Michael Hawkins]

Thank you Susan. As you say, the decipher tools article is worth a read.

Cheers,

Michael.

> On 4 Jan 2016, at 5:02 am, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Michael, this article points out that backup and sync are NOT the same, so I 
> was wrong in my first email. Worth a read. Cheers, Susan.
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jan 2016, at 5:14 PM, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael, I also found another article which takes you through all of it.
>> 
>> 
>> https://deciphertools.com/blog/2015_01_27_itunes_sync_vs_backup_ensure_data/
>> 
>> 
>> It is a step by step guide similar to what Ronni would give you.
>> 
>> If neither of these threads make sense to you its possible to just do your 
>> own Google search.
>> 
>> cheers, Susan.
>> 
>>> On 3 Jan 2016, at 4:57 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm a tad confused about the advantages and differences between backing up 
>>> my iPhone and syncing my iPhone. 
>>> 
>>> I avoid technological clouds  of any description as much as I can, and so I 
>>> assume if I backup my iPhone I plug it in to my computer and save the 
>>> entire contents into iTunes. 
>>> 
>>> I also assume that if I lose or destroy or break my iPhone somehow, I can 
>>> download to the replacement iPhone the content saved on my MacBook Pro, 
>>> including photos and videos.
>>> 
>>> I think that if I sync my iPhone to my computer, all I do is transfer from 
>>> the computer to the iPhone photos that aren't on the iPhone and content in 
>>> iTunes from he computer to the iPhone that isn't in the iPhone, and 
>>> vice-versa.
>>> 
>>> Syncing: What happens to music I've got on my computer, that I didn't buy 
>>> through iTunes? By law I'm allowed to copy a cd I have bought. Does it get 
>>> transferred to my iPhone when I sync the phone with he computer or, if it's 
>>> music get is not on the iPhone, does syncing mean that it gets removed from 
>>> the computer?
>>> 
>>> And how do photos fare? I've got hundreds of photos on the computer they 
>>> aren't on the iPhone, and dozens on the iPhone that aren't in the computer. 
>>> If I sync my iPhone  with the  computer  does it mean that photos get 
>>> removed from my computer if they're not on the iPhone?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Backup or sync iPhone?

[Michael Hawkins]

I'm a tad confused about the advantages and differences between backing up my 
iPhone and syncing my iPhone. 

I avoid technological clouds  of any description as much as I can, and so I 
assume if I backup my iPhone I plug it in to my computer and save the entire 
contents into iTunes. 

I also assume that if I lose or destroy or break my iPhone somehow, I can 
download to the replacement iPhone the content saved on my MacBook Pro, 
including photos and videos.

I think that if I sync my iPhone to my computer, all I do is transfer from the 
computer to the iPhone photos that aren't on the iPhone and content in iTunes 
from he computer to the iPhone that isn't in the IPhone, and vice-versa.

Syncing: What happens to music I've got on my computer, that I didn't buy 
through iTunes? By law I'm allowed to copy a cd I have bought. Does it get 
transferred to my iPhone when I sync the phone with he computer or, if it's 
music get is not on the iPhone, does syncing mean that it gets removed from the 
computer?

And how do photos fare? I've got hundreds of photos on the computer they aren't 
on the iPhone, and dozens on the iPhone that aren't in the computer. If I sync 
my iPhone  with the  computer  does it mean that photos get removed from my 
computer if they're not on the iPhone?

Cheers,

Michael
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Re: The results of your email commands

[Michael Hawkins]

Bit awkward isn't it Bill, if a wheel drops off while you're driving. If that's 
the quality you accept  I'm surprised you're not a Windows user.

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Dec 2015, at 7:05 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Thansk,
> 
> I’ll try it tomorrow when I have some time.  Worth investigating with i 
> Tunes.  the Land Rover of course is superior because of the wheel drop that 
> the Cruiser (utes) do not have, still working in the stage coach era.
> Bill
>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 18:44, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> When you link the iPhone to your Mac iTunes should open automatically. If 
>> not, open it manually. I can’t really give you a step by step process as 
>> Ronni does, but you should be able to find a tab for the iPhone and messages 
>> about whether to restore the iPhone or set it up as a new one. Maybe give 
>> that a try and see what happens.
>> 
>> The iPhone can only be linked to one computer for backups, etc. I’m not sure 
>> if using a backup of the phone would be a good idea as if the iPhone is 
>> corrupted the backup may just restore the problems back onto the iPhone.
>> 
>> Is there anything on the iPhone that would be a problems to lose? Do you 
>> have a list of your Contacts on the computer?
>> 
>> A LandRover might be even better for running over the iPhone than a 
>> Landcruiser, if all else fails.
>> 
>> cheers, Susan
>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 11:34 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Its a Land ROVER!  And my mechanic forbids anything but regular truck 
>>> diesel.
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 18:31, Michael Hawkins 
>>>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Run over it with the Landcruiser Bill. That should straighten things out, 
>>>> especially if you're still running the cruiser on recycled chicken manure 
>>>> and fish and chip oils and fats. Michael
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 5:59 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have no idea how to do a full restore when attached to the laptop.  
>>>>> MacBook Pro  OS 10.11.1
>>>>> 
>>>>> B
>>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 17:54, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bill, I suggested two things. One was doing a hard reset of the phone, 
>>>>>>> the other was doing a full restore attached to your Mac. So, it’s not 
>>>>>>> clear if you have done both. cheers, Susan.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 8:46 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thansk Susan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tried that but the only things that has changed was the message count 
>>>>>>> from 20,621 to 20,622 although two messages were received.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 15:39, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Bill, have you tried resetting the phone by pressing down the on 
>>>>>>>> off key and the home key together. You have to hold them down until it 
>>>>>>>> begins to restart.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have you tried linking it to your computer and doing a restore as a 
>>>>>>>> new phone, then Using your backup to restore things.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers, Susan.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 8:15 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> From: wamug.org.au-wamug-ow...@lists.wamug.org.au
>>>>>>>>>> Date: 23 December 2015 at 15:11:26 AWST
>>>>>>>>>> To: ren...

Re: The results of your email commands

[Michael Hawkins]

Run over it with the Landcruiser Bill. That should straighten things out, 
especially if you're still running the cruiser on recycled chicken manure and 
fish and chip oils and fats. Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Dec 2015, at 5:59 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> I have no idea how to do a full restore when attached to the laptop.  MacBook 
> Pro  OS 10.11.1
> 
> B
>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 17:54, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill, I suggested two things. One was doing a hard reset of the phone, the 
>>> other was doing a full restore attached to your Mac. So, it’s not clear if 
>>> you have done both. cheers, Susan.
>>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 8:46 AM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thansk Susan,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tried that but the only things that has changed was the message count from 
>>> 20,621 to 20,622 although two messages were received.
>>> 
>>> Bill
 On 23 Dec 2015, at 15:39, Susan Hastings  wrote:
 
 Hi Bill, have you tried resetting the phone by pressing down the on off 
 key and the home key together. You have to hold them down until it begins 
 to restart.
 
 Have you tried linking it to your computer and doing a restore as a new 
 phone, then Using your backup to restore things.
 
 Cheers, Susan.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On 23 Dec 2015, at 8:15 AM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: wamug.org.au-wamug-ow...@lists.wamug.org.au
>> Date: 23 December 2015 at 15:11:26 AWST
>> To: ren...@westnet.com.au
>> Subject: The results of your email commands
>> 
>> The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
>> original message.
>> 
>> 
>> - Unprocessed:
>>My “ancient” iPhone 4 seems to be out of control.  The system is  V 
>> 7.1.2 and there is 263MB of space.
>>The battery is now dying after 6 hours and less with limited use.
>>However, there are some emails that cannot be deleted ( except by 
>> switching the phone OFF then ON)
>>The Email inbox is now showing 20,621 messages  but actually empty.
>>The Email sent box has shown 116 messages but actually empty and 
>> doesn’t change even if I do send messages.
>>Last night it made spontaneous call ( at 10.00 pm) to a number in my 
>> contacts list based in Melbourne.
>>The main screen also went blank and only was restorable by pressing 
>> the on/off switch at the top, not the button at the bottom.
>>Its only used for phone and txt messages with the occasional picture 
>> taken and not much else.  Its on 24/7.
>>Time to dump?
>>Bill
>> 
>> - Ignored:
>>Dr Bill Parker
>>ren...@westnet.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Done.
>> 
>> 
>> From: Bill Parker 
>> Date: 23 December 2015 at 15:11:23 AWST
>> To: wamug.org.au-wamug-requ...@lists.wamug.org.au
>> Subject: Wonky iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Wamuggers,
>> 
>> My “ancient” iPhone 4 seems to be out of control.  The system is  V 
>> 7.1.2 and there is 263MB of space.
>> 
>> The battery is now dying after 6 hours and less with limited use.
>> 
>> However, there are some emails that cannot be deleted ( except by 
>> switching the phone OFF then ON)
>> 
>> The Email inbox is now showing 20,621 messages  but actually empty.
>> 
>> The Email sent box has shown 116 messages but actually empty and doesn’t 
>> change even if I do send messages.
>> 
>> Last night it made spontaneous call ( at 10.00 pm) to a number in my 
>> contacts list based in Melbourne.
>> 
>> The main screen also went blank and only was restorable by pressing the 
>> on/off switch at the top, not the button at the bottom.
>> 
>> Its only used for phone and txt messages with the occasional picture 
>> taken and not much else.  Its on 24/7.
>> 
>> Time to dump?
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dr Bill Parker
>> ren...@westnet.com.au
> 
> Dr Bill Parker
> ren...@westnet.com.au
> 
> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

Re: The results of your email commands

[Michael Hawkins]

The mechanic's  ban would  be because it's a Rover not a Cruiser, Bill so all 
to do with manufacturing and design issues rather than  fuel quality. Bit like 
Windows and Mac.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Dec 2015, at 6:34 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Its a Land ROVER!  And my mechanic forbids anything but regular truck diesel.
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 18:31, Michael Hawkins <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Run over it with the Landcruiser Bill. That should straighten things out, 
>> especially if you're still running the cruiser on recycled chicken manure 
>> and fish and chip oils and fats. Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 5:59 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have no idea how to do a full restore when attached to the laptop.  
>>> MacBook Pro  OS 10.11.1
>>> 
>>> B
>>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 17:54, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill, I suggested two things. One was doing a hard reset of the phone, 
>>>>> the other was doing a full restore attached to your Mac. So, it’s not 
>>>>> clear if you have done both. cheers, Susan.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 8:46 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thansk Susan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tried that but the only things that has changed was the message count 
>>>>> from 20,621 to 20,622 although two messages were received.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 15:39, Susan Hastings <shasti...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Bill, have you tried resetting the phone by pressing down the on off 
>>>>>> key and the home key together. You have to hold them down until it 
>>>>>> begins to restart.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tried linking it to your computer and doing a restore as a new 
>>>>>> phone, then Using your backup to restore things.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers, Susan.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2015, at 8:15 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: wamug.org.au-wamug-ow...@lists.wamug.org.au
>>>>>>>> Date: 23 December 2015 at 15:11:26 AWST
>>>>>>>> To: ren...@westnet.com.au
>>>>>>>> Subject: The results of your email commands
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
>>>>>>>> original message.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Unprocessed:
>>>>>>>>My “ancient” iPhone 4 seems to be out of control.  The system is  V 
>>>>>>>> 7.1.2 and there is 263MB of space.
>>>>>>>>The battery is now dying after 6 hours and less with limited use.
>>>>>>>>However, there are some emails that cannot be deleted ( except by 
>>>>>>>> switching the phone OFF then ON)
>>>>>>>>The Email inbox is now showing 20,621 messages  but actually empty.
>>>>>>>>The Email sent box has shown 116 messages but actually empty and 
>>>>>>>> doesn’t change even if I do send messages.
>>>>>>>>Last night it made spontaneous call ( at 10.00 pm) to a number in 
>>>>>>>> my contacts list based in Melbourne.
>>>>>>>>The main screen also went blank and only was restorable by pressing 
>>>>>>>> the on/off switch at the top, not the button at the bottom.
>>>>>>>>Its only used for phone and txt messages with the occasional 
>>>>>>>> picture taken and not much else.  Its on 24/7.
>>>>>>>>Time to dump?
>>>>>>>>Bill
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Ignored:
>>>>>>>>Dr Bill Parker
>>>>>>&

Re: iPhone charging

[Michael Hawkins]

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Nov 2015, at 9:56 AM,  
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hi, thanks for that Ronni. Yes I figured that it operated somewhat like 
> that. I will get it calibrated as well to ensure the battery condition is 
> consistent with indicated percentage
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:33:18 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: iPhone charging
> 
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> You could try calibrating the battery, but what I think is happening.
> 
> The battery display icon shows a "bolt" when charging and changes to a "plug" 
> when connected to power but not charging.
> 
> When the iPhone is first plugged into power the icon will show the 'bolt' 
> meaning the iPhone is charging.
> The active charge cycle stops once the battery has reached full charge.  
> The phone recognises that is it still plugged in, and you would notice the 
> "plug" icon in the battery (no 'bolt')... indicating the phone is no longer 
> charging. 
> 
> Because it is no longer actively charging, or drawing any power from the 
> charger at all, the phone's operations begin to wear down the battery again.  
> The difference between waking up to a battery that is 100% charged (if 
> charging overnight) and waking up to a battery with only a 95% charge, is 
> based on when the battery reached full charge (perhaps several hours before 
> checking it for the first time) and how much juice the phone needed to 
> continue operation.  
> If the phone is set to check email, has location based services running, 
> sending usage data to Apple, etc., the battery will run down some extent, 
> just like it was *not* plugged in.
> 
> If you remove the cable from the phone, and plug it back in it will charge to 
> 100% again in a short time.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> On 23 Nov 2015, at 7:56 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> My son's iPhone 4S which was a hand-me-down of unknown vintage though 
> obviously many years old was having very short battery life notwithstanding 
> his usage pattern. I arranged and fitted a replacement battery and the 
> replacement battery has a longer life and probably adequate but has a 
> particular behaviour. It can be placed on charge and the battery level 
> indicator will go green with icon reflecting on charge, but overnight, the 
> charge level will actually go down.
> 
>  
> 
> Is this something others have experienced?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Pete.
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Re: Setting up Mail in an iPhone6

[Michael Hawkins]

If all else fails, or like me, you don’t feel adventuresome, try giving this 
bloke a hoy:
hugh.jo...@staff.iinet.net.au 

Cheers,

Michael.

> On 16 Oct 2015, at 2:02 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> I have just purchased an iPhone6 and am having difficulty setting up Mail.  I 
> have an iMac, a MacBook and an iPad and all werev easily connected to Apple 
> Mail, hosted by Westnet.  
> With the iPhone I am blocked as it maintains the username or password are 
> incorrect.  They are patently correct as far as i can see.  
> In my phone novice state am I missing something?   No such problem with the 
> iPad.  
> Severin Crisp
> 
> 
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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello Peter and Neil,

Thank you for responding. Rather than blunder my way through written 
instructions from iinet/Westnet I’ve taken the easy way out and everything was 
sorted out during a phone consultation with a Westnet/Iinet fellow in Melbourne 
who was able to access my computer through LMIRescue. 

I’ve been with iinet/Westnet for 19 years or so and was on a legacy system. I’m 
now on a new much cheaper system for emails and my iPhone has been set up to 
use IMAP rather than POP.

So far life is much simpler.

Cheers,

Michael.
Yosemite 10.10.5
Mail 8.2


> On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:35 am, <petercr...@westnet.com.au> 
> <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the IMAP 
> accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not present 
> until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to the top 
> of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. The account 
> set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details first, 
> whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that - and for 
> some reason my iPhone  had defaulted to self nominating a Bigpond outgoing 
> server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the 
> choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to 
> the other day when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread 
> below.
> 
> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup 
> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this 
> account type.
> 
> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of days, 
> I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long deleting 
> stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG" <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
> 
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
> earlier iOS versions.
> 
> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
> 
> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
> 
> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
> 
> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
> know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something different
> about the internode email set-up.
> 
> However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at least 3
> computers - all running SL ;o) - so I now think the internode email is not
> the problem.
> 
> It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple deciding
> that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((
> 
> Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me to the
> hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings ;o)
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au wrote:
> 
> > If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it be
> > over-ridden and POP specified instead?
> > I use Westnet as ISP
> > I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in through 
> > Mail
> > on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I could lay my
> > hands on, whether it be mine or a total strangers.
> > 
> > Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing Mail from
> > iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box, then 
> > pressing
> > delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer appeared if
> > logged onto webmail.
> > (Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop - if 
> > deleted
> > from lap

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni,

For me it all went awry when my very new iPhone in a very new supposedly water 
proof case got wet after the carbon fibre shaft of a two month old you-beaut 
oar snapped and the single scull I was in flipped.

The case was not entirely waterproof and the iPhone got a little damp - damp 
enough to be replaced by Telstra. Telstra had set up the damaged phone and 
everything went very well but for some reason the replacement phone was set up 
for POP and my laptop was set up for IMAP.

As from 8:05 this morning I’ve been set up for IMAP on phone and laptop.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins.


> On 16 Oct 2015, at 12:11 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter, Neil and Michael,
> 
> Starting in  iOS 6 the iOS email setup became smarter, and tries to figure 
> out whether your ISP supports IMAP, and if it does, creates an IMAP account 
> on the iPhone.
> 
> If your ISP does not support IMAP it creates a POP3 account. 
> There are 2 problems with this added intelligence:
> 1. Sometimes it makes a mistake, and creates a POP account even if the ISP 
> supports IMAP.
> 2. Sometimes even if your ISP supports IMAP you might prefer a POP account. 
> (I don’t know why people would but…)
> 
> I’ve had this happen where the iPhone would auto select POP even though the 
> server supported IMAP.
> One way you can force the setup to give you a choice of POP or IMAP.
> Is to type in a fake email address dpj...@dpe.sp <mailto:dpj...@dpe.sp> when 
> setting it up, iOS will then try to auto-discover the account settings when 
> it can’t it will ask you to fill in the server details and you can select POP 
> or IMAP.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11
> 
>> On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:35 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing the IMAP 
>> accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP does not 
>> present until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if you scroll to 
>> the top of that screen, at the top are the push buttons for IMAP OR POP. The 
>> account set up process on iOS seems to ask for Incoming server details 
>> first, whereupon entering that a "Verify" operation occurs. Following that - 
>> and for some reason my iphone  had defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond 
>> outgoing server (I am Westnet) and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it 
>> provided me the choice at that point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of 
>> this prior to the other day when I was making the changes across my devices 
>> per the thread below.
>> 
>> So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the setup 
>> phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do accommodate this 
>> account type.
>> 
>> Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple of 
>> days, I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so long 
>> deleting stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>
>> To:
>> "WAMUG" <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Michael,
>> 
>> It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a number of
>> POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up under
>> earlier iOS versions.
>> 
>> The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode email
>> address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
>> finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then comes back
>> set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc) and
>> have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every thing and
>> you have to start all over again - save and the account is all set-up.
>> 
>> Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and IMAP.
>> 
>> My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently running
>> the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2
>> 
>> As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I don't
>> know if the problem is with the upgraded i

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[Michael Hawkins]

If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it be 
over-ridden and POP specified instead?
I use Westnet as ISP
I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in through Mail 
on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I could lay my 
hands on, whether it be mine or a  total strangers.

Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing Mail from 
iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box, then pressing 
delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer appeared if 
logged onto webmail.
(Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop - if deleted 
from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server).
>From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case deleting email 
>meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using laptop or by 
>using iPhone.

I think possible results are
(A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check emails via Mail 
if deleted on server
(B) delete email on Server when it is deleted on Apple device used to check 
emails
(C) remain on Server if deleted on Apple device, so email still available on 
other devices used to check emails
(D) deleted on Server and not accessible on any device if deleted by using 
webmail
(E) remain accessible in deleted email box until specifically deleted from 
deleted email box.

Assuming my list of possibilities is complete, what are the possible 
permutations? Can Server be set to IMAP, laptop be set to POP and iPhone be set 
to IMAP, or must each setting on each device be the same if emails are checked 
using an iOS device?

Do deletion permutations vary depending upon whether POP or IMAP is selected on 
ISP server?

Thank you,

Michael Hawkins
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Oct 2015, at 9:40 PM, Rob Phillips <r.phill...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> I guess this should all work, as long as you don't get one of your POP 
> accounts to delete messages from the server when you download it.
> 
> Rob
> 
>> On 14/10/2015 7:08 pm, Neil Houghton wrote:
>> Hi Pete, Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> I've been following this thread with some interest. If I understand the
>> thread, the decision as to whether an account is IMAP or POP should be set
>> at the hosting server and then the account in the email program has to be
>> set to match (ie use the same protocol).
>> 
>> Georgie & I have our own domains and generally use email accounts we have
>> set-up on those. We have VERY limited email storage associated with these
>> accounts and so we use POP and download everything from the server. No
>> problems here except that there is also limited bandwidth and so
>> occasionally we can hit the bandwidth limit. At some stage I will upgrade
>> the hosting package which will address the storage/bandwidth limitations.
>> 
>> 
>> Our broadband provider (Internode) also provides email and so I set-up an
>> internode email address for each of us - more as a back-up, we don't really
>> use them as they would disappear if we changed Broadband providers.
>> 
>> 
>> I set these up several years ago, so I don't really remember the steps
>> involved - but I can see that the email accounts on the computer are set as
>> POP accounts and everything works fine (test emails to and from both mine &
>> Georgies accounts.
>> 
>> 
>> Now, here's where it gets confusing
>> 
>> Recently Georgie was getting (and due to get) quite a lot of emails with
>> large phoo files attached - so I suggested she use her internode email
>> address to avoid running into bandwidth/storage limitations on her personal
>> email accounts. She had forgotten that she had this account and it was only
>> configured on the computers so she asked me to set-up the account on her
>> iPhone - which I did - only to find that mail on IOS automatically set up an
>> IMAP account!
>> 
>> So now it seems that there is an IMAP account on the iPhone and POP accounts
>> on several computers all connecting to the same basic Internode email
>> account. All seem to work well and send and receive email OK.
>> 
>> The IMAP account leaves messages on the server (as you would expect). The
>> POP accounts on the secondary computers also leave messages on the server
>> (as they have been set to do) and the POP account on her main computer
>> downloads messages from the server (as it has been set to do).
>> 
>> I currently have 15 email accounts set-up in my email client on my computer
>> and ALL are POP - so I would prefer to just keep everything the same.
>> However Mail on IOS on the iPhones just automatically sets the internode
>> accounts t

Re: Food for thought

[Michael Hawkins]

Nice to know I'm not an orphan. I've been using Apple computers since about 
1994, and feel the same frustration., including the Photo debacle.

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Oct 2015, at 9:38 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:
> 
> This is an interesting discussion, and it resonates with the way I have been 
> thinking.
> 
> I agree with Bill
> 
> "I want stuff that works when I need it."
> 
> Over recent years, I've become increasingly dissatisfied with Apple Mac 
> products, because they continue to remove functionality that I have been used 
> to using efficiently. I'm a 'messy' user, and I like to have multiple windows 
> open at once. Recent OS upgrades have made it harder for me to do this. 
> Unless I hide the Finder Toolbar, I can't open Folders in a new window 
> without right-clicking. It took me months to find out about this by trial and 
> error. Apple should have told me! Previously, I had a preference about how 
> this behaved.
> 
> In other words, I'm getting sick of Apple telling me how I should use my 
> computer, and removing my options for doing things differently. E.g. taking 
> away scroll bars because you can swipe on iphones.
> 
> Forcing me to move to Photos, with reduced functionality, was another example 
> which I didn't ask for.  I didn't even know I would lose many of my smart 
> albums until AFTER I upgraded.
> 
> It seems like Apple has a philosophy that everyone is a new user, and doesn't 
> recognise long-term users.
> This is an interesting discussion, and it resonates with the way I have been 
> thinking.
> 
> I agree with Bill
> 
> "I want stuff that works when I need it."
> 
> Over recent years, I've become increasingly dissatisfied with Apple Mac 
> products, because they continue to remove functionality that I have been used 
> to using efficiently. I'm a 'messy' user, and I like to have multiple windows 
> open at once. Recent OS upgrades have made it harder for me to do this. 
> Unless I hide the Finder Toolbar, I can't open Folders in a new window 
> without right-clicking. It took me months to find out about this by trial and 
> error. Apple should have told me! Previously, I had a preference about how 
> this behaved.
> 
> In other words, I'm getting sick of Apple telling me how I should use my 
> computer, and removing my options for doing things differently. E.g. taking 
> away scroll bars because you can swipe on iphones.
> 
> Forcing me to move to Photos, with reduced functionality, was another example 
> which I didn't ask for.  I didn't even know I would lose many of my smart 
> albums until AFTER I upgraded.
> 
> It seems like Apple has a philosophy that everyone is a new user, and doesn't 
> recognise long-term users.
> 
> I'm seriously considering other options, but I guess a Linux variety is the 
> only option,and this will take an extended learning curve.
> 
> One day I'll reach a tipping point, but, in the meantime, I can hope that 
> Apple will stop trying to control my behaviour.
> 
> My 2c
> Rob
> 
> 
>> On 10/10/2015 7:18 am, Bill Parker wrote:
>> Phillipe I can  sum it up this way.  I want stuff that works when I need it. 
>>  The comparison with Windows still has Mac in a different league and vastly 
>> superior.   However, the way things are going, I get limited or no value 
>> from the constant upgrades.  And as you may have seen in the recent past I 
>> had to open a document in Pages.  I had to upgrade the system.  the very 
>> LEADT Apple could do is alert users to some very simples to take before you 
>> download ( thanks Ronni for the help!)
>> 
>> What stuff do I need?   Office ( because I need to keep compatible with 
>> group I work with).  Word for Mac 2011 was assuredly worse that it 
>> predessor.  And Power point.  if going to El Capitan wrecks that critical 
>> operation I an stuffed.
>> 
>> Security?   I do not use iCloud.  I do not use anything Google and do not 
>> need to.  I have a Time machine sitting next to me, not in California!
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On 10 Oct 2015, at 00:46, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> The previous emails on this thread are interesting but I somehow do not 
>>> grasp what exactly some users are looking for with regards to the OS. Is it 
>>> the Operating System which is becoming too complex or powerful or is it the 
>>> amount of Application Softwares which come with a computer that is the 
>>> problem?
>>> 
>>> For those who want basic application softwares they are available, albeit 
>>> for a price (most are quite cheap). Some of the applications I use are 
>>> fairly basic e.g. for my photos I use Graphic Converter because I have 
>>> problems in constantly having my Photos, ex iPhotos, libraries converted 
>>> etc. Although I have MS Office, most of my word processing is done with 
>>> Mellel, a powerful application but not as ‘bloated’ as Word. In fact for a 
>>> quick and short document Text Edit comes to my rescue quite 

Re: Food for thought

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello All,

My perception may be wrong, my imagination may be running riot, but it does 
seem to me that the battery life of my iPhone gets shorter with each new 
iteration of an OS and each new OS and more and more we're being driven to 
using iCloud. Someone justifies this on the basis get it gives increased 
security but to my simple mind data which stats on my hard drive is more secure 
than data which gets plonked onto a server in Apple knows where but I don't, 
whee security and privacy laws may be more lax than Australia's. And how can 
transmitting something over the Internet be more secure than not transmitting 
it at all?

Turning now to things on a cloud, what happens to my data if I want to abandon 
Apple and go elsewhere. Can I shift every untying that I paid for through 
iTunes (example) onto a non-Apple Compuetr? Or have I done my dough. I'm still 
searching for some of my photos.

Cheers,

Michael
(Apple since 94)


Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Oct 2015, at 7:46 PM, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> The previous emails on this thread are interesting but I somehow do not grasp 
> what exactly some users are looking for with regards to the OS. Is it the 
> Operating System which is becoming too complex or powerful or is it the 
> amount of Application Softwares which come with a computer that is the 
> problem?
> 
> For those who want basic application softwares they are available, albeit for 
> a price (most are quite cheap). Some of the applications I use are fairly 
> basic e.g. for my photos I use Graphic Converter because I have problems in 
> constantly having my Photos, ex iPhotos, libraries converted etc. Although I 
> have MS Office, most of my word processing is done with Mellel, a powerful 
> application but not as ‘bloated’ as Word. In fact for a quick and short 
> document Text Edit comes to my rescue quite happily. 
> 
> With regards to the operating system itself, unfortunately the computing 
> world is constantly evolving and what with the hotly contested competition 
> from Windows and Android, if Apple does not keep up with the latest 
> technologies it will loose ground very quickly. A good analogy is the car 
> industry. A current car manufacturer who dares produce a car without electric 
> windows and/or an electric starter motor, side valves operated by push rods 
> etc would not survive the highly competitive modern car market. The current 
> consumers, in the majority, are looking for the very latest in technology for 
> safety and economy and will not hesitate to swap brands if this requirement 
> is not met by the car or computer or camera etc manufacturer.
> 
> Although the above analogy is  simplistic, this is the argument I use to 
> convince myself to install the latest OS on my Macs. The latest technology 
> provides greater efficiency, uses the latest technology, which once learned, 
> will make my life much easier. And above all the updates allow me to surf the 
> net which itself keeps evolving using new technology. Many ‘old’ browsers 
> would not be able to cope with all that latest internet technology. 
> 
> I agree that it is difficult to keep learning the new  OS, but at least we 
> Mac users have not had to suffer the pains our brothers from that ‘other’ OS 
> have go through with each major update. Having used Apple products s
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Re: El Capitan - New Security Improvements

[Michael Hawkins]

Thinking back to the prosecution against MicroSoft in the late 1990s decade 
which indirectly lead to Microsoft injecting cash into Apple to keep Apple 
afloat as a competitor to MicroSoft (and thus offer an alternative to Windows), 
I wonder why this apparent requirement that users must use iCloud and two Apple 
devices as well as use only Apple software doesn’t violate USA anti-trust laws.

Cheers,

Michael.


> On 6 Oct 2015, at 3:30 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hello WAMUGers who are contemplating upgrading to OS X 10.11 El Capitan,
> 
> I thought I would post about the New Security Improvements for members who 
> might not be fully aware of the changes.
> Take note of the changes to Two-Factor Authentication in iOS 9 and OS X 10.11 
> El Capitan.
> 
> El Capitan - New Security Improvements
> 
> There are new security improvements in El Capitan that should protect Mac 
> users from malware, but unfortunately it may also mean that some of the 
> software utilities you use no longer work.
> 
> System Integrity Protection: Also called “rootless,” this feature makes an El 
> Capitan Mac more resistant to attacks and malware, but it also limits what 
> power users can do to their systems—unless they disable it.
> 
> What Rootless means in OS X El Capitan?
> 
> In OS X 10.11 El Capitan, System Integrity Protection, also known as 
> rootless, will prevent the modification or removal of certain system files 
> even by administrative overrides. This means that no user, application, or 
> process will be able to write files or modify files in the root System folder 
> or the /bin, /sbin, and /usr directories, which are hidden by default in OS 
> X’s Finder. The /usr/local folder will still be accessible though.
> 
> By locking down the core system Apple will scupper the attempts of any 
> malware to gain access to files, folders, running processes (software that 
> manages tasks in the background) and system apps, such as the Finder and 
> Dock. 
> This might lead to some changes in third party apps you use regularly, for 
> instance, prior to El Capitan Dropbox showed sync status in the Finder, 
> luckily this won’t be gone completely, Apple has added generic code to 
> support it.
> 
> How will Rootless effect app developers?
> 
> Kernel extensions will still be allowed, but developers will need a valid 
> certificate from Apple to get them cryptographically signed.
> 
> However developers of programs like SuperDuper! were busy trying to adapt to 
> the new way of working. SuperDuper needs to read everything on a drive to 
> perform a clone and, to restore or write anywhere. Which could make it 
> impossible to restore a volume without disabling System Integrity Protection.
> 
> Update Note: Update SuperDuper! has now released SuperDuper 2.8(v96) and 
> available for automatic upgrade! SuperDuper 2.8(96) is El Capitan compatible.
> 
> How will Rootless effect me in OS X El Capitan?
> 
> These new security measures are designed to avoid the circumstances where a 
> user is fooled by some malware and types in their password, allowing a Trojan 
> horse to install.
> 
> When you update to El Capitan any non-Apple files in those directories will 
> be removed. This might mean that some of the software you use no longer 
> works, but it’s perhaps worth it if it removes horrors lucking within.
> 
> What this means is that it will no longer be the case that a superuser, or 
> root, can do anything to the system. Root is something that is fundamental to 
> Unix. However, because it is possible to have this root power on Unix (on 
> which OS X is based) OS X is vulnerable to attack if a malicious user gains 
> root access.
> 
> Can I disable Rootless in OS X El Capitan?
> 
> It is possible to disable this protection, however I would certainly NOT 
> recommend you do and therefore won’t post to WAMUG mailing list how to 
> disable Rootless. Apple especially in El Capitan is doing everything possible 
> to keep your System (& you) Safe, so why break it?
> 
> Changes to two-factor verification for Apple ID
> 
> • Two-factor authentication: Apple has beefed up security by adding 
> two-factor authentication for your Apple ID in El Capitan and iOS 9. 
> 
> Apple’s current “two-step” system requires users to specify a trusted device 
> or trusted phone number to which a four-digit code can be sent which you can 
> use to confirm your identity. Without both the password and verification code 
> you won’t be able to access your account.
> 
> Apple has posted an explanation of its plans for two-factor authentication in 
> El Capitan and iOS 9, here 
> . 
> Similar to the existing system, users will set up at least one iOS and OS X 
> device as “trusted devices.” These devices appear in a list in your Apple ID 
> account and can be removed from there. They can be found in OS X in iCloud 
> system preferences, by clicking Account Details, and in iOS 9 

Re: Repair Permissions in Disk Utility prior to OS X 10.11 El Capitan - Reset Home Folder Permissions in Terminal

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni for your very clear explanation.  Cheers,
Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Oct 2015, at 11:15 AM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael and any member interested in this subject,
> 
> Michael’s previous questions to the list under the Subject: Re: the spinning 
> beach ball has changed!
> 
>> "Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
>> this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
>> lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released 
>> every three weeks or so ?"
> 
> 
> To answer your question, I’ll need to explain to you what “Repair 
> Permissions” using Disk Utility in OS X prior to El Capitan repaired. 
> Hopefully below will help answer your previous questions.
> 
> Repair Permissions in Disk Utility - Reset Home Folder Permissions in 
> Terminal  
> 
> Part A of my Reply:
> Repair Permissions in Disk Utility in OS X prior to El Capitan 
> 
> In OS X, each file contains information specifying which users (or parts of 
> the system) can read it, modify it, or execute it. 
> This information is collectively known as permissions. If a file has 
> incorrect permissions, it can cause apps to misbehave in various ways, such 
> as crashing or failing to launch.
> 
> Ordinarily, installers set the correct permissions for the files they 
> install, and the permissions stay that way permanently. However, a poorly 
> written installer can mess up permissions — even for files it did not install 
> — and if you use Unix commands such as chown and chmod, you can accidentally 
> set files’ permissions incorrectly. 
> These sorts of problems occur infrequently, but they do occur.
> 
> The Repair Permissions feature looks for certain software installed using 
> Apple’s installer, which saves files called receipts that list the locations 
> and initial permissions of all the files in a given package. Repair 
> Permissions compares the current permissions to those in the receipts and, if 
> it finds any differences, changes the files back. 
> The command ignores software installed in other ways (using a different 
> installer or drag-and-drop installation, for instance) and knows nothing 
> about permission changes you may have made deliberately.
> 
> Permissions don’t go out of whack all by themselves; you (or software you 
> install) must do something to change them. 
> 
> Are all files affected by Repair Disk Permissions?
> 
> No. As you may have inferred from the above description, only those files 
> installed using OS X’s Installer utility and whose installation packages 
> leave behind a proper receipt in /Library/Receipts are affected by the Repair 
> Disk Permissions function. 
> 
> This means that most of the files affected by the Repair Disk Permissions 
> function are system-level files, application files, or system add-ons—not 
> applications installed by drag-and-drop, and not your documents or other 
> user-level files.
> Repairing permissions is mainly a tool for fixing 'permissions-related' 
> problems with OS-level Apple software .
> But beyond that, only certain receipts are referenced, all of them associated 
> with OS-X-related software.
> 
> Although some might argue that restricting the Repair Disk Permissions 
> function to Apple-installed software is a limitation, it’s also good 
> security. If third-party receipts were used as references when repairing 
> permissions, a piece of malware could leave behind a receipt designed to 
> maliciously change permissions on system-level files—for example, to assign 
> more-accessible permissions on normally secure files and directories. This 
> could be a major security risk.
> 
> But starting in OS X 10.11 El Capitan, the Repair Permissions feature is gone 
> from Disk Utility entirely.
> Beginning with OS X El Capitan, system file permissions are automatically 
> protected. 
> It's no longer necessary to verify or repair permissions with Disk Utility.
>  Instead, permissions are repaired automatically when you install software 
> using Apple’s installer.
> —
> Part B of my Reply:
> Does repairing permissions affect third-party application files?
> 
> Apple’s description of the Repair Disk Permissions function seems to imply 
> that any software, including third-party software, installed using Installer 
> and accompanied by a receipt in /Library/Receipts is affected by repairing 
> permissions. 
> However, we know from my previous reply above that this isn’t the case. The 
> only third-party software affected by repairing permissions is software 
> included with Mac OS X and installed by the Mac OS X Installer.
> 
> Reset Home Folder Permissions in Terminal
> 
> Disk Utility only checks a limited subset of files, and it won’t repair 
> anything within your Home folder. There is a slightly more convoluted way to 
> fix permissions issues there.
> Why might you want to do this, you ask? The most common scenario is that 
> something’s 

Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Michael Hawkins]

Hi Ronni, 

Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released every 
three weeks or so ?

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Oct 2015, at 6:54 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
> 
> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:36 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen, 
>> 
>> Yes, when I opened the updated Disk Utility (version 15.0), under the tab 
>> ‘First Aid’ it advises it will check the volume for errors, and repair the 
>> volume if necessary. No mention of Repair Permission which now has 
>> disappeared, possibly not required anymore under El Capitan. 
>> 
>> I did run Repair Disk Permissions when under Yosemite prior to upgrading to 
>> El Capitan as per Ronni’s usual advice. Once El Capitan was up and running 
>> there seem to be no need to repair Permissions. 
>> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
>> 
>> Cheers & nice week-end, 
>> 
>> Philippe C
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:03 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Phillipe,
>> Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
>> I still run that before and after every update.
>> And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for 
>> updates.
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robin,
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
>>> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
>>> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
>>> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
>>> 
>>> Safe week-end to All, 
>>> 
>>> Philippe C
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous 
>>> upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most 
>>> improvements are under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
>>> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
>>> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
>>> 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
 
 Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated 
 and needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel 
 is working correctly.
 
 One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, 
 which after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its 
 maximum speed although the internal temperatures were will within norms, 
 and no applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with 
 no luck and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the 
 problem. 
 
 Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
 permissions. I guess this is good news?
 
 I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
 applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am 
 a bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not 
 know how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
 back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
 
 Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
 
 Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
 
 Philippe C.
 
 
 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Philippe,
> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
> MacBookPro).
> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they 
> warn you that it does.
> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
> check updates.
> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
> afterwards. I will try again later.
> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
> redundant?, auto?
> I did look Ronni!
 
 Permissions repair and 

Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni.

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Oct 2015, at 9:39 AM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> To answer your question, I’ll need to explain to you what “Repair 
> Permissions” using Disk Utility in OS X prior to El Capitan repaired. I’ll 
> reply to the list in another email with a suitable subject heading.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2015, at 1:21 am, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni, 
>> 
>> Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
>> this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
>> lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released 
>> every three weeks or so ?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 3 Oct 2015, at 6:54 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> 
>>>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>>>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>>>> version, or has become redundant. 
>>> 
>>> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
>>> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
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Re: iPhoto Update

[Michael Hawkins]

I’ve been trying to download that update, but keep getting a message that it is 
not currently available on the Australian Apple Store.

What can be done?

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins
> On 30 Sep 2015, at 4:01 pm, Alan Smith <sma...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni,
> 
> Another task for later!
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 30 Sep 2015, at 3:35 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 'Photos for OS X' requires 'iPhoto v9.6.1' to be able to make the 
>> transition/import/update from iPhoto to Photos.
>> 
>>> On 30 Sep 2015, at 2:57 pm, Alan Smith <sma...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> App Store has notified that an update is now available for iPhoto (vers 
>>> 9.6.1) which was released on 20 March 2015.  Notification just received!   
>>> My current installed version is 9.5.1 which has a diagonal cross on the 
>>> Finder applications icon.  I am using Yosemite OS X 10.10.5.  I also have 
>>> Photos (ver 1.0.1) installed.  I think I use Photos as my working app, but 
>>> don’t know if I fully transferred any associated libraries from iPhoto. 
>>> 
>>> This morning I trashed all files in ~/Library/Caches to fix a stubborn 
>>> iCloud problem. These included an item named Photos_Cache.noindex.
>>> 
>>> Should I download and install the App Store iPhotos update?
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Alan Smith
>>> Late 2012 iMac 27" Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.10.5 
>>> Yosemite
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Startup Sound

[Michael Hawkins]

Many years ago I installed Startup Sound on my computer. It used to do a superb 
job preventing the (to me) annoying boing sound that my laptop makes on 
starting up, but it does not work with 10.10.5. I no longer have the program 
that was used to install it, and so cannot comply with the program writer’s 
instructions on how to uninstall. The program does not show up when I do a 
Spotlight search, but is listed in the Systems Preferences pane. Does anyone 
have any suggestions?

Thank you,

Michael Hawkins


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Re: Startup Sound

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Alan, yes it does show up in the last line of preferences along with 
others that I want to ditch. I'll give what you suggest a go.
Cheers, 
Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Sep 2015, at 10:07 am, Alan Smith <sma...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Does the app appear in Apple > System Preferences (usually bottom row)?  If 
> so, have you tried a right mouse click on the app.  This usually display 
> options, including delete.
> 
> Alan
> 
>> On 30 Sep 2015, at 8:59 am, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Many years ago I installed Startup Sound on my computer. It used to do a 
>> superb job preventing the (to me) annoying boing sound that my laptop makes 
>> on starting up, but it does not work with 10.10.5. I no longer have the 
>> program that was used to install it, and so cannot comply with the program 
>> writer’s instructions on how to uninstall. The program does not show up when 
>> I do a Spotlight search, but is listed in the Systems Preferences pane. Does 
>> anyone have any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
>> 
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Re: Malwarebytes, anti-malware for Mac

[Michael Hawkins]

Hi Ronni,

Does this apply to iPhones on ios8, too?

Thank you, 

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Sep 2015, at 8:40 am, FW  wrote:
> 
> Yes Ronni, I certainly will. It’s already archived.
> Thanks.
> 
> Cheers.
> Walter
> 
> *
>> On 27 Sep 2015, at 17:37 , Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Well... No... It's not really anti-virus software.
>> But I do not recommend and have never recommended that Malwarebytes 
>> Anti-Malware software be installed on current OS X systems.
>> 
>> Please read thoroughly all the documentation I posted in my last reply to 
>> the list.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Sep 2015, at 4:46 pm, FW  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is not really anti-virus software, is it Ronni ?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Walter
>>> 
>>> ***
>>> 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Ronni Brown 
 Subject: Re: Malwarebytes, anti-malware for Mac
 Date: 27 September 2015 13:18:50 GMT+8
 To: WAMUG 
 Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 
> On 27 Sep 2015, at 11:58 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
> 
> A week or two ago Peter Marks on ABC Breakfast with Fran Kelly advised 
> against installing any Apple virus protection software given that recent 
> security upgrades have made them largely redundant and they seem to cause 
> more problems than they claim to fix.  
> 
> Graham
> 
> Sent from my iPad
 
 I agree! In my previous reply I only supplied the information about 
 Malwarebytes anti-malware for Mac.
 
 Peter, Daniel & I have posted numerous times re: Do Macs need Anti-Virus 
 programs.
 The short answer is NO.
 
 Below I quote from Linc Davis - Level 10 Apple Support Communities
 
 /Begin Quote from Linc Davis:
 Mac users often ask whether they should install "anti-virus" software. The 
 answer usually given on ASC is "no." The answer is right, but it may give 
 the wrong impression that there is no threat from what are loosely called 
 "viruses." There  is a threat, and you need to educate yourself about it.
 
 1. This is a comment on what you should—and should not—do to protect 
 yourself from malicious software ("malware") that circulates on the 
 Internet and gets onto a computer as an unintended consequence of tYes 
 Ronni, I certainly will. It’s already archived.
> Thanks.
> 
> Cheers.
> Walter
> 
> *
>> On 27 Sep 2015, at 17:37 , Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Well... No... It's not really anti-virus software.
>> But I do not recommend and have never recommended that Malwarebytes 
>> Anti-Malware software be installed on current OS X systems.
>> 
>> Please read thoroughly all the documentation I posted in my last reply to 
>> the list.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Sep 2015, at 4:46 pm, FW  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is not really anti-virus software, is it Ronni ?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Walter
>>> 
>>> ***
>>> 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Ronni Brown 
 Subject: Re: Malwarebytes, anti-malware for Mac
 Date: 27 September 2015 13:18:50 GMT+8
 To: WAMUG 
 Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 
 
> On 27 Sep 2015, at 11:58 am, Graham Rabe  wrote:
> 
> A week or two ago Peter Marks on ABC Breakfast with Fran Kelly advised 
> against installing any Apple virus protection software given that recent 
> security upgrades have made them largely redundant and they seem to cause 
> more problems than they claim to fix.  
> 
> Graham
> 
> Sent from my iPad
 
 I agree! In my previous reply I only supplied the information about 
 Malwarebytes anti-malware for Mac.
 
 Peter, Daniel & I have posted numerous times re: Do Macs need Anti-Virus 
 programs.
 The short answer is NO.
 
 Below I quote from Linc Davis - Level 10 Apple Support Communities
 
 /Begin Quote from Linc Davis:
 Mac users often ask whether they should install "anti-virus" software. The 
 answer usually given on ASC is "no." The answer is right, but it may give 
 the wrong impression that there is no threat from what are loosely called 
 "viruses." There  is a threat, and you need to educate yourself about it.
 
 1. This is a comment on what you should—and should not—do to protect 
 yourself from malicious software ("malware") that circulates on the 
 Internet and gets onto a computer as an unintended consequence of the 
 

Re: Virus checker

[Michael Hawkins]

Thank you Peter,

As a reflex reaction I automatically immediately delete any that has the 
letters php in it. I don't know why, but it feels safer to do so.

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Sep 2015, at 10:41 am, Peter Hinchliffe <hinch...@multiline.com.au> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 26 Sep 2015, at 6:52 am, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm checking emails by using iPhone and latest version of ios8. Have 
>> received an email supposedly from a person in my contact list, but obviously 
>> not from him. He has run a scan on his computer but found nothing amiss. Is 
>> there a program I can use to check my iPhone and my MacBook to see if they 
>> are affected? Westnet is my ISP, Telstra my phone service.
>> 
>> Haven't checked emails on MacBook yet, nor have I checked webmail (deleting 
>> from one device doesn't prevent email being received on the other).
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
> 
> The email has probably come from a third party, who just happens to have both 
> of your details in their contact list through one means or another. This is 
> not to say even that this third party is acting maliciously, but they are 
> probably the ones who have the malware. Given the nature of the way this 
> stuff works these days, that third party needn’t even be someone either of 
> you know.
> 
> The one thing you CAN be sure of is that the problem dies not exist on either 
> your iPhone or your MacBook. While there is a small amount of malware now 
> creeping into Mac OS X, none of it has been characterised with this 
> behaviour, which is clearly come from a virus infection on the third party’s 
> computer. There are no viruses yet reported on either Mac OS X or iOS 
> (malware yes; viruses no). There are plenty of companies out there who will 
> happily take you money on the promise to do what you describe, but you’d be 
> just wasting it.
> 
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
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Re: Virus checker

[Michael Hawkins]

Thank you Peter, I'll make sure any exe exist my phone and laptop!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Sep 2015, at 11:25 am, Peter Hinchliffe <hinch...@multiline.com.au> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 28 Sep 2015, at 9:51 am, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Peter,
>> 
>> As a reflex reaction I automatically immediately delete any that has the 
>> letters php in it. I don't know why, but it feels safer to do so.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael Hawkins
> 
> Well, if it feels good…
> 
> php is simply a scripting technology which sites behind pretty much every 
> website you see these days. It’s a good idea to be cautious of any link or 
> download that you’re not sure of in an email, but there’s nothing inherently 
> dangerous about php. The three letters you DO need to be cautious of are exe, 
> which denotes a Windows-executable file. If you see this at the end of any 
> file name, the file they belong to with will almost always contain a 
> (Windows-based) virus. Although they cannot themselves do anything in Mac OS 
> X, it can cause problems for a Windows-based recipient of you forward such an 
> email to them. 
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: Malwarebytes, anti-malware for Mac

[Michael Hawkins]

 an iPhone or iPad, 
> or send a message to it in the hope of retrieving a lost iPhone or iPad.
> 
> 1. Click on Settings > Privacy > Location service
> 2. Tap Find My iPad and click it to On
> 3. Open the App Store and Find My iPhone. Install the app.
> 
> Open the Find My iPhone app on an iPad or iPhone and log in to see where all 
> your devices are. 
> Note that this service can also be accessed from Apple's iCloud website.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 
>> On 28 Sep 2015, at 9:41 am, Michael Hawkins 
>> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> 
>> Does this apply to iPhones on ios8, too?
>> 
>> Thank you, 
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Sep 2015, at 8:40 am, FW <whae...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes Ronni, I certainly will. It’s already archived.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> Walter
>>> 
>>> *
>>>> On 27 Sep 2015, at 17:37 , Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well... No... It's not really anti-virus software.
>>>> But I do not recommend and have never recommended that Malwarebytes 
>>>> Anti-Malware software be installed on current OS X systems.
>>>> 
>>>> Please read thoroughly all the documentation I posted in my last reply to 
>>>> the list.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 27 Sep 2015, at 4:46 pm, FW <whae...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is not really anti-virus software, is it Ronni ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Walter
>>>>> 
>>>>> ***
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Malwarebytes, anti-malware for Mac
>>>>>> Date: 27 September 2015 13:18:50 GMT+8
>>>>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au>
>>>>>> Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 27 Sep 2015, at 11:58 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A week or two ago Peter Marks on ABC Breakfast with Fran Kelly advised 
>>>>>>> against installing any Apple virus protection software given that 
>>>>>>> recent security upgrades have made them largely redundant and they seem 
>>>>>>> to cause more problems than they claim to fix.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree! In my previous reply I only supplied the information about 
>>>>>> Malwarebytes anti-malware for Mac.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter, Daniel & I have posted numerous times re: Do Macs need Anti-Virus 
>>>>>> programs.
>>>>>> The short answer is NO.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Below I quote from Linc Davis - Level 10 Apple Support Communities
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /Begin Quote from Linc Davis:
>>>>>> Mac users often ask whether they should install "anti-virus" software. 
>>>>>> The answer usually given on ASC is "no." The answer is right, but it may 
>>>>>> give the wrong impression that there is no threat from what are loosely 
>>>>>> called "viruses." There  is a threat, and you need to educate yourself 
>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. This is a comment on what you should—and should not—do to protect 
>>>>>> yourself from malicious software ("malware") that circulates on the 
>>>>>> Internet and gets onto a computer as an unintended consequence of tYes 
>>>>>> Ronni, I certainly will. It’s already archived.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> Walter
>>> 
>>> *
>>>> On 27 Sep 2015, at 17:37 , Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well... No... 

Virus checker

[Michael Hawkins]

Hello,

I'm checking emails by using iPhone and latest version of ios8. Have received 
an email supposedly from a person in my contact list, but obviously not from 
him. He has run a scan on his computer but found nothing amiss. Is there a 
program I can use to check my iPhone and my MacBook to see if they are 
affected? Westnet is my ISP, Telstra my phone service.

Haven't checked emails on MacBook yet, nor have I checked webmail (deleting 
from one device doesn't prevent email being received on the other).

Regards,

Michael Hawkins
Yosemite 
Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Yosemite 10.10.5

[Michael Hawkins]

Yeah!
I feel vindicated!
Time for another beer with Ian, Bill.
Cheers,
Michael.

> On 14 Sep 2015, at 4:59 pm, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni,
> 
> Ran DU and told me the Disk needed repair: one block had the wrong number.  
> Did that  and after restart the speed of start up and other things improved.  
> DU doesn’t identifiy any problems.
> 
> Many thanks for the help.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> I 
>> On 14 Sep 2015, at 13:55, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Sep 2015, at 11:22 am, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:ren...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just installed Yosemite 10.10.5 on my Macbook Pro after reading Michael 
>>> Hawkins’ glowing report...
>>> 
>>> Did this as prescribed by Ronni.
>>> 
>>> Ran Disk utility  - took about an hour +  and still is see a report as 
>>> follows:
>>> 
>>> "Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
>>> Warning: 
>>> SUID file 
>>> “System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent”
>>>  has been modified and will not be repaired.
>>> Group differs on “Library/Printers/InstalledPrinters.plist”; should be 80; 
>>> group is 0.
>>> Permissions differ on “Library/Printers/InstalledPrinters.plist”; should be 
>>> -rw-rw-rw- ; they are -rw-r--r— .
>>> Repaired “Library/Printers/InstalledPrinters.plist”ACL found but not 
>>> expected on 
>>> “private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.stackshot.plist”Repaired“private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.stackshot.plist”User
>>>  differs on “private/var/db/displaypolicyd”; should be 0; user is 244.
>>> Group differs on “private/var/db/displaypolicyd”; should be 0; group is 244.
>>> Repaired “private/var/db/displaypolicyd”ACL found but not expected on 
>>> “private/var/root/Library/.localized”
>>> Repaired “private/var/root/Library/.localized”
>>> Permissions repair complete
>>> 
>>> There has been no speed change and spinning beach ball is still in 
>>> abundance and everything is slower than it should be.
>>> 
>>> Any help to get this right would be appreciated, especially how to fix the 
>>> SUID ( not knowing what is is, but it sounds serious!)
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> The Repair Permissions listed above are NOT causing the slowness & beachball 
>> issues.
>> You can ignore the Repair Permissions report - As long as you see 
>> "Permissions repair complete” you are OK.
>> Please read:
>> Mac OS X: Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions messages that you can 
>> safely ignore - Apple Support <http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203172>
>> 
>> What could be happening is Spotlight might be indexing your Hard Drive 
>> therefore slowing everything down.
>> 
>> If it doesn’t settle down after awhile - try a couple of restarts of your 
>> Mac. then Test if any change. 
>> I would also suggest you run ‘Verify Disk’ in Disk Utility just to check if 
>> the Hard Drive is OK
>> Open Disk Utility and click “Verify Disk” (that’s Verify Disk NOT Verify 
>> Disk Permissions)
>> NOTE:
>> Your computer may be slow or unresponsive while the startup disk is being 
>> verified.  The progress indicator and status messages may not be updated 
>> until the verification process is complete.
>> 
>> Post back if any errors are found or if DU says The volume  appears to 
>> be OK.
>> If you post back, give us details of your Mac -  amount of RAM (memory) 
>> processor speed etc.
>> Also how much “Available" space on the Hard Drive?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 
>> 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD
>> 
>> OS X Yosemite 10.10.5
>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill
>> 
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Re: IOS update

[Michael Hawkins]

Downloading took me three goes and a Very Long Time. Brought back memories of 
the mid to late nineties. The combo download onto my MacBook Pro kept quitting 
and then starting from scratch. 

Cheers,

Michael Hawkins

Sent from my iPhone

 On 20 Aug 2015, at 4:53 pm, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 I am currently downloading and installing the IOS update on to my iPad Mini.  
  The download (through iTunes) took nearly half an hour and the up 
 installation currently underway seems interminable compared to earlier ones.  
 Is these my imagination or just slow internet etc?  
 Severin Crisp
 
 
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