adamdea;639757 Wrote:
Good luck explaining that in Cork.
...not to mention Delhi, Sydney, Lagos, etc etc. The sun never sets on
colour with a u.
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not the cause of your crackling. My suggestion is to
experiment with different settings for the software buffers via TT.
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)? Or are you sometimes going to not really switch inputs when you
say you're switching, to see if he reports a difference even when it's
the same source?
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would provide more conclusive results than Tom saying I hear these
differences. I understand that Tom won't know which source is A and
which source is B, but will he know when you are switching them?
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in your listening room. Sometimes
that's not a problem, sometimes it is.
Finally, if sound quality matters to you, the soundcards of most
netbooks are vastly inferior to the audio components of a SB, so your
sound quality won't be as good either.
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1.1.2 Touch settings
Open the setting menu on the Touch:
1. Audio settings
Crossfade: none
Volumeadjustment: No volume adjustment
SoundEffects: None
Volume: 100%
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Absolutely nothing wrong with that!
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-optimal listening
rooms. And sub-optimal listening rooms are often critical for
maintaining domestic harmony :-)
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100Mbps equipment. The real question,
of course, is whether michael123 is really getting 60MBps, or only
60Mpbs. Huge difference.
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Spotify is available for Squeezebox now.
Yes, but not where the OP lives. And that's who asked the question.
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not available in the US yet. Rhapsody does
192kbps. There are various internet radio stations that do 192kbps or
better, including Radio Paradise.
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case, losing bits because of attenuated gain would be the least of your
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So in all seriousness, please point me to any such measurements - I'd be
very interested to see them and the conclusions drawn.
Start around post #329 in this thread. Note that those are Phil's
measurements on the analog outputs.
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sure I heard 'something'. So far the best I can give the mods is a
'maybe' for audible improvement under my current conditions (system,
room, ears, etc).
The one definite plus is that it finally pushed me to run cat5e cable
to that part of the house.
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soundcheck's mods. I _can_ say with certainty that I
did not hear the '\staggering improvements in the sound quality\'
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you and others report hearing (and you hadn't even disabled wifi yet).
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OK, let me ask you this: are you, or have you ever been able, to hear
ANY differences in the sound quality when comparing two systems?
Most definitely. Again: what's your point?
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myth, aerodynamics engineers could prove that bumblebees couldn't fly
because they applied the wrong principles, because they didn't know any
better. Now such proofs are easily assailed.
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No, not at all. They are three different things. Power off puts the
system in standby. Factory reset restores all user-controlled settings
to the factory defaults. Xilinx reset re-initializes the processor.
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listening to that or standard redbook 16/44.1
then downsampling wouldn't be an issue and wouldn't explain the
difference in sound quality you heard when the players were sync'd.
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(a) if bitrate limiting is turned
on for the Duet Receiver, and if so, (b) how it sounds when bitrate
limiting is turned off.
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settings between mysb and local SBS,
although in my experience it just messes them up! That setting has
absolutely nothing to do with sync'ing of streams to players.
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Having analysed out your system quite carefully, I reckon your problem
is that you don't have any speakers.
Some audiophiles end up overdoing the transparency and blacker
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involves a lot of compromises, so those floorstanders
likely wouldn't achieve their true potential anyway.
Paradigm makes some good in-wall speakers, as do Tannoy and many
others. But without a price range it's hard to say a lot more.
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I don't have a Transporter to test, but I'm pretty sure that anything
that works with cat5 or cat5e should work with cat6.
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as a placebo. At least that's
the case in medical settings -- the literature on audio placebos isn't
as vast as the medical literature. (Many would say it's only
half-vast.)
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usually interested in how a meal is prepared.
Especially if it's from friends or family and especially if I like it.
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the difference to audio components or
any other aspect.
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Personal attacks or a hijacking. Seems that the author has one of the
other definitions of support in mind for this support thread.
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. I'm just asking if maybe the effect for each
incremental step may depend on what steps preceded it. (I'm not an EE,
but that would be a natural question in statistics.)
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it wouldn't make a
huge difference in the incremental effects.
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soundcheck;610140 Wrote:
Even by leaving out Jive2/Buffer and server based flac decoding on the
SW side,
Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks to me like FLAC _was_ decoded
on the server:
-3) track was streamed to Touch as PCM from sbs 7.6 on XP sp3. via
Ethernet.-
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I have no idea how much shipping would be to the other side of the pond,
but Seattle-based Blue Jeans Cable (www.bluejeanscable.com) do a great
job of high-quality and relatively inexpensive cables, with no snake
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error checking. It's not exactly rocket science.
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The TP SE (no knob) is available at Logitech's US site. Other than that
I can't think of a place better than the three you mentioned.
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with or without
the mod. The only difference is that with the mod, after doing the
calculations, whatever is calculated for the variable is replaced by
the constant 2^16. So the load on the CPU is the same.
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://www.audioengine.org.uk/). That probably is a diversion from your
upgrade path to a surround system, but it may be the best fidelity
you'll find for your budget.
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I'm probably not understanding something here, but if you want to avoid
the wireless on the SB Receiver why not just configure it to use the
ethernet port instead?
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Mini to sleep and
switch the TP to mysb.com. Or you can have that happen automatically
after the TP has been idle for a user-specified period of time.
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On this forum ?
LOL. Sorry, I forgot.
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the paintings are still the same objects in the
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it, but I don't see how it would improve the quality of the lossy
stream being sent by Pandora, because it would only be making up any
information it would be adding to the audio stream.
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difference compared to component Y, and then be unable to distinguish
the two objectively in a blind ABX test. If a listener cannot
objectively tell the difference, but is happier knowing that component
X is in his rack instead of component Y, that is something different.
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Listening to music is like making love. You have to be in the mood.
Otherwise you leave disappointed.
...though the ABX tests for lovemaking can get a lot more complicated,
especially double-blind
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Lefatshe;581241 Wrote:
This whole thread and no one mentioned looking on Audiogon.com for a
used Transporter?
I'm a step ahead of you Chumza. See 'post #2'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=579793#post579793).
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The SB Touch is very good, or you could look for a Transporter on
www.audiogon.com. There's a second-hand one available there now, with
an asking price of US$1200:
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Nonreality;578197 Wrote:
Ok so if you do have longer runs, what gets messed up sound wise? The
imaging? I hope this isn't too simplistic because I'm truly
interested.
Long runs of unbalanced cable are susceptible to interference, such as
picking up a hum from adjacent AC wires.
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Search these forums a little and you'll see that this has been analyzed
more carefully by others and discussed at great length, and the
consensus seems to be yes. Based on my own side-by-side non-blind
testing I think so, too.
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all if in a few years time the pricier earphones disappear from the
line, with Logitech choosing to focus on the mass market sub-$300
models, or even sub-$150 models.
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, that
doesn't necessarily mean anything, because their web site is a
disaster. Or at least the SB part of their web site is.
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of ESS Tempest LS8 with Heil AMT from my
college days -- still sound great after all these years.
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I've seen good reviews of the Trends Audio T-10 amp
(http://www.trendsaudio.com/index.php), but I've never heard one. The
Parasound Zamp v3 may also fit the bill, although it's more of an
in-rack design than a bookshelf design.
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(under
Player Audio Volumne Adjustment), and the actual player volume that
is set in SBS. I know it seems obvious, but explaining the measured
volume difference isn't easy -- unless it's _very_ easy because of one
of these settings.
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with the network protocol (TCP/IP) guaranteeing that what gets sent is
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is by an error-correcting protocol like TCP/IP. I am not
denying that you're hearing differences. But the source of the
difference is not which machine you are using for the server. Let's see
what the log files say.
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...and to clarify a little further, there are *two* different vortexbox
appliances. The original is based on MSI hardware, and the newer micro
appliance is based on the Fit2PC platform.
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it will require converting
those WMA Lossless albums to FLAC.
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, and a supercomputer won't lift a veil.
Most of the NAS discussion is over in the 3rd Party Hardware forum,
including a lot of people who use the ReadyNAS.
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MP3 library I want to put on my
portable players. Deciding in advance which ones I wanted to convert to
MP3 would only add another step to process -- disk space and CPU cycles
are much cheaper than my time.
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Set up flac2mp3.pl to run periodically via cron or whatever the
Scheduler-du-jour is in Windows.
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method for transcoding,
adding to, and organizing a separate library I think it's more of a
hassle than it's worth.
Meanwhile, the OP has gotten plenty of responses about players that
support FLAC, Ogg, and MP3.
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noise isolation earphones like the ER4.
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Anyway, I heard once the effect of a demagnitizer for discs. The effect
was real - small, but real.
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in-ceiling speakers in my kitchen and I'm happy with it.
But it's far from an audiophile system or audiophile environment.
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not curious enough to go buy a SPL meter to
equalize the volume levels. After getting the volume level squared away
I can deal with (a) and (b). (Interestingly, my wife was listening and
liked the SB3's sound better, and it was blind to her.)
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We know he likes cars. Long ago there was a photo posted of a nice big
expensive German car, triple parked in a no parking zone. I forget if it
was a BMW or MB. Ferraris are nice, as are Maserattis.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15540
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What's your budget? I don't know those speakers, but you probably
wouldn't go wrong with a Parasound Zamp v3.
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tried using it on existing FLAC files. But I don't think
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However, it seems smartgain in the squeezeboxes can not dynamically
correct/address very significant differences between tracks
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timequest;425441 Wrote:
I just read about Wi-Fi being limited to 16/44.1.
Where did you read this?
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listen. Thanks to
you and others for the other suggestions -- it really helps to narrow
down a couple things before walking into the store.
Any particular recommendations for an amp to go with Vandersteens?
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to spend that much,
but I could exceed it by a little and be okay. I'm fine with going on
the second-hand market such as Audiogon. And I should say that I'd be
open to active monitors or amp+passive speakers.
Thanks in advance for any insights.
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tracks to
FLAC is that I find the FLAC/Ogg tagging much more straightforward than
ID3 tags. It seems that whenever I have a tagging/slimserver problem
it's with the 3% of my tracks that are MP3. YMMV
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of the tests that have been
suggested, such as recording and comparing the digital output, post the
data here, and then we can discuss the issue. If you can't back up your
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the results of your *blind A/B* tests.
FYI, I tried your test, and couldn't hear it the effect you claim. That
could be because my audio equipment is only hi-fi, not high end.
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think the same applies to the Bose Acoustimass
speaker line as well.
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. My guess is you'll be much happier with
another SB, simply from a convenience standpoint. And the bonus is that
people at poolside don't have to listen to the same tunes as the people
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for where you live/shop.
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has an amended script for creating the files
to test lossless (I think it might be wav) vs. MP3. See:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21545
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management, although I haven't done it
yet. Of course, years from now I'll probably forget that the original
source was MP3s, and wonder why those FLACs sound so crappy..
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wiki indicates that's do-able.
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cheaper to make an alternative from
scratch, but I don't think they were aiming for the 'enthusiast' market
that hangs out in the forums.
And the real beauty is that each company is continuing to do what they
do best, and leaving it all completely modular.
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http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_ripping.html
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produces the same audio signal as WAV, and for me the bandwidth issue
(I'm running wireless) makes it a no-brainer.
The validity of the zip analogy is that both zip and flac are lossless.
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not simply get additional drives? As others have pointed out,
slimserver can easily work with music collections on multiple drives.
If need be, get an additional SC101, too.
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