Re: ASP.net Jobs [OT]

2013-04-25 Thread John M Bliss
http://www.linkedin.com/skills/skill/ASP.NET On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Greg Edmonds wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have a close friend that is searching for a ASP.net programmer. I told > her I would check around, but I don't do much with ASP. I was hoping > someone could point me to a g

Re: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-07 Thread dave
is that it? ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.NET How can one love it. You can delete this from the file system, then click the proje

Re: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-07 Thread Adam Churvis
You can delete this from the file system, then click the projects on the Start Page and they'll go away from the Recent Projects list that appears when you first launch. If you want to remove them from the Recent Projects list but don't want to dump them, just move the related files from both t

RE: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-07 Thread Ian Skinner
Agreed. I'm currently working on putting together a list of CFC --> .NET class equivalents. They are quite similar. I'll post my findings here if anyone is interested. Anyway, did you get your problem figured out? Dave Gruska That would be cool to see, it is one of the first things I thought o

Re: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-07 Thread Dave Gruska
> I wonder how many people realize with very little work one could make > CF run markup that looks just like ASP.NET markup. Agreed. I'm currently working on putting together a list of CFC --> .NET class equivalents. They are quite similar. I'll post my findings here if anyone is interested. A

RE: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-07 Thread Ian Skinner
Lastly, I'm tempted to defend ASP.NET/Visual Studio, especially based on your Subject line, but I don't want to start a flame war. I will say that I absolutely love both CF and .NET. Dave Gruska I really don't have much against ASP.NET as long as it's not pushed on me with "LEARN .NET or you w

RE: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-07 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Right-click in the Solution Explorer panel AND? Extend finger used for right click, extend arm in the air, and scream. Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any

Re: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-07 Thread Ken Ferguson
You don't wanna start a flame war??? Come on Dave, we live for flame wars!!! Seriously though, that's the way I feel every time someone goes off baggin' on PHP. I've been doing both for so long that I can actually see the good and bad things about each language. --Ferg Dave Gruska wrote: > A

Re: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-07 Thread Dave Gruska
All you need to do is delete it in Windows Explorer. There is no "remove" for whole projects. You can delete individual files in a project by right-clicking on them, and selecting "delete", which deletes them permanently from VS and the file system. If, for some reason, this doesn't work, you c

Re: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-06 Thread Bruce Sorge
Sent: 6/6/06 4:57:49 PM To: "CF-Talk" Subject: Re: ASP.NET How can one love it. Format your hard drive and re-install your operating system ** Couldn't resist ** Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign 417-885-1375 http://www.quilldesign

RE: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-06 Thread Ian Skinner
Right-click in the Solution Explorer panel AND? I've tried that. I can delete individual files, but I want to delete the entire project definition, files and all. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binar

RE: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-06 Thread Dave Francis
Right-click in the Solution Explorer panel -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ASP.NET How can one love it. Ok in reality I'm griping about Visual Studio (2005 Professional to be specific). I'm going th

Re: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-06 Thread dave
lol ~Dave the disruptor~ From: "Paul Giesenhagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.NET How can one love it. Format your hard drive and re-install your operating system ** Couldn&#

RE: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-06 Thread Ian Skinner
Ok in reality I'm griping about Visual Studio (2005 Professional to be specific). And this grip was supposed to be posted to CF-Community. Sorry. Back to your regularly scheduled CF IDE "debate". -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA -

Re: ASP.NET How can one love it.

2006-06-06 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
Format your hard drive and re-install your operating system ** Couldn't resist ** Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign 417-885-1375 http://www.quilldesign.com - Original Message - From: "Ian Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: ASP.NET How c

Re: !RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-09 Thread Jeff Fleitz
Hi Mark, Good afternoon to you. I don't know how to answer that at this point, as I have only run a couple samples waiting for F2B3 to be released before delving into Flex seriously. However, I think I would opt for writing different data access components for Flex connectivity. On 5/9/06, mar

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Andy Allan wrote: > Our Development/Staging/QA/whatever-you-want-to-call-it mirrors > Production exactly. > > CF settings, JVM settings, OS settings, Apache settings. It has to. > (OK you can get away with the odd discrepency). > > Now true, we won't have external users hitting this environment,

!RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-09 Thread mark
Hey jeff, Think databaseBlocks.cfc could be tied into Flex? Good morning to you! Mark Fuqua -Original Message- From: Jeff Fleitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer The info you are looking at regarding

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-09 Thread Andy Allan
server) are > allowed access to the website files. On Windows you might use shares for > this. > > -Original Message- > From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:14 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer >

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-09 Thread Plunkett, Matthew
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Windows on desktop only. Shares? For what? Andy On 09/05/06, Plunkett, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really? I presume you are not using Windows then? Or do you not u

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-09 Thread Andy Allan
t; To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > > Our Development/Staging/QA/whatever-you-want-to-call-it mirrors Production > exactly. > > CF settings, JVM settings, OS settings, Apache settings. It has to. > (OK you can get away with the odd discrepency). >

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-09 Thread Plunkett, Matthew
Really? I presume you are not using Windows then? Or do you not use shares? -Original Message- From: Andy Allan Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Our Development/Staging/QA/whatever-you-want-to-call-it mirrors Production exactly

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-09 Thread Snake
Well your not the norm then Andy, most developers do not have that setup. Snake -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 00:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Our Development/Staging/QA/whatever-you-want-to-call-it mirrors

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-08 Thread Andy Allan
in things. > Aside from CF there are of course the windows/IIS configuration differences, > the security policies... > > The difference is night and day > > Russ > > -Original Message- > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 May 2006 1

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-08 Thread Snake
-Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 19:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Snake wrote: > Like everything. > There is a big difference to hosting a production server with hundreds > of sites on it and mi

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-08 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Snake wrote: > Like everything. > There is a big difference to hosting a production server with hundreds of > sites on it and millions of hits per day and running a development server > with 1 developer on it and no traffic. There is indeed a big difference in what you must do (like make backups)

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-08 Thread Snake
I think it is also dependant on what your doing on the server. Single site, prob no issues. Multiple sites (i.e. shared hosting), that's when u have more problems. -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 12:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: AS

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-08 Thread Denny Valliant
On 5/8/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have to agree - I still think CF5 was more stable that MX. Java > certainly did add a few more oddities in terms of stability which needs > far > more tweaking of the JVM. Oddly, 6.1 did much better for us, and 7 has been eve

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-08 Thread Snake
-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Yep...no problem... Rick -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer You develop directly on your live server !! :-O !!! Do I r

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
Yep...no problem... Rick -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer You develop directly on your live server !! :-O !!! Do I really need to say anything? Snake

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-08 Thread Snake
You develop directly on your live server !! :-O !!! Do I really need to say anything? Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 00:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Sounds like you got things set up well

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-08 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I have to agree - I still think CF5 was more stable that MX. Java certainly did add a few more oddities in terms of stability which needs far more tweaking of the JVM. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2006 00:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Rick Faircloth
y 07, 2006 6:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > > You gotta swim at some point. > > Agreed...I'm just trying to decide what pool to swim > in this time. I hear you. In a changing world, assessing what the future will bring is not as straight for

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Rick Faircloth
> Life is too short. Without a doubt... -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 2:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer ~| Message: h

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Denny Valliant
> > You gotta swim at some point. > > Agreed...I'm just trying to decide what pool to swim > in this time. I hear you. In a changing world, assessing what the future will bring is not as straight forward as one would wish. =-] I think it would be wise to add ASP.NET to my repertoire. > Especial

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Snake
2006 20:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Snake wrote: > Well I guess for most CFML developers in a full-time job, the server > side of things is not their problem, they just do the code. But if > your self employed/freelance, and have to look after your own serv

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Snake wrote: > Well I guess for most CFML developers in a full-time job, the server side of > things is not their problem, they just do the code. But if your self > employed/freelance, and have to look after your own server and maybe even do > the hosting as well, there is certainly a shedload mor

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Denny Valliant
On 5/7/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would have to agree with that...doing this all without any > guidance or training (except from a little tech support and > a lot of CF-Talk guidance!) has been a challenge at times. No doubt. Customer support, sales, doing the whole thin

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Rick Faircloth
essage- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 6:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Well I guess for most CFML developers in a full-time job, the server side of things is not their problem, they just do the code. But if your self em

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Dave Watts
> What's the criteria for being a loyal customer? Buying > something every time they have something to sell whether it > benefits me or not? > > Every time, which has been once, that I needed a means to > produce dynamic websites and applications, I turned to > Allaire > Macromedia > Adobe fo

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Rick Faircloth
ting becomes less risky. I gotta ask... 'leetness? What in the world does that mean? And where in this world is home for you? Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 11:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF pr

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-07 Thread Snake
to maintain a stable server. Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2006 00:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer And that's one of the major concerns I had about upgrading. After CF became JAVA based (if that'

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Denny Valliant
> I finally had a stable CF system and was really afraid to touch it, > being a one server business. I didn't have multiple servers as I do now, > and couldn't afford for something to go wrong. > > The water got a little too deep for comfort. You gotta swim at some point. And you also need to g

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Denny Valliant
On 5/6/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the perspective, Denny. Hey, anytime. It's about all I got, so... [-= I've haven't tried talking with Adobe about it, but should > I decide to upgrade, I'll certainly talk to them. > > As far as the changes from 4.5 to the curr

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Rick Faircloth
le too deep for comfort. Rick -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Altho, all things considered with the improvements CFMX brings, I still find CF5 more stable than CFMX. The inc

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Snake
was a lot easier to diagnose too, whereas you have to know somehting about JAVA to decipher a JVM stacktrace. Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2006 22:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Thanks for the perspective

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Rick Faircloth
veryone for sharing your thoughts. Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Out of curiosity, has anyone called adobe and tried the old human element? I only dealt

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Rick Faircloth
aturday, May 06, 2006 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Interesting concept, but you would have to wait 10 years to find out they are a loyal customer though. In the case of big corporates like Adobe, a loyal and worthy customer is someone who spends shedloads of

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Denny Valliant
Out of curiosity, has anyone called adobe and tried the old human element? I only dealt with MM via email, but they were pretty helpful. Some companies give their employees (i.e. sales department folks) more power than others, allowing them to make exceptions based on their judgement. It doesn't

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Snake
bject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > I simply pointed out that most companies don't consider someone who > buys one product, once, to be a loyal customer. What's the criteria for being a loyal customer? Buying something every time they have something to sell whether

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Rick Faircloth
back to me for that re-design, I consider that loyalty. They don't have to get a re-design every year to be considered a loyal customer. Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 1:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for C

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Dave Watts
> From your view, good business is the customer doing what's > best for the company. From my view, good business is the > company doing what's best for the customer. That's not my view at all. However, you mentioned that you were a "loyal" customer; I simply pointed out that most companies don't

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Rick Faircloth
.that was a big concern for a lot of people when the buyout first occurred... Rick -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 5:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Rick Faircloth wrote: > > ASP.NET 2.

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Rick Faircloth
arlier versions? Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 2:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > And, frankly, I don't care if the software is 7 years old. > They got $1300 7 years ago or so, and

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Rick Faircloth wrote: > > ASP.NET 2.0...harder to code, I think, but seems to have functions that > CF 7 doesn't. All the software from OS, server (IIS 6), Visual Web > Developer, > all from the same company and integrated in approach... All in one hand, from one vendor, vertically integrated fr

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Dave Watts
> No, free isn't the main consideration, but it certainly helps. > Not just the cost to me, but also to clients who want to > deploy my apps in-house...I can save them $1300 everytime > they want to buy an app. > > If I replicate the app completely and don't have to change it > at all for each

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Dave Watts
> And, frankly, I don't care if the software is 7 years old. > They got $1300 7 years ago or so, and that's a lot more than > they've gotten from someone who hasn't bought anything before. > I just feel there should be some consideration for any > previous customer's investment. Even if on a s

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
x27;m in business for that. But I do reward long-time customer loyalty. Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > ASP.NET 2.0...harder to code, I think, but seems to

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
for the reasons I've stated above, it will provide greater ROI...and that's what we're all after. Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > I know it may

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Dave Watts
> ASP.NET 2.0...harder to code, I think, but seems to have > functions that CF 7 doesn't. All the software from OS, > server (IIS 6), Visual Web Developer, all from the same > company and integrated in approach... And, likewise, CFMX 7 has lots of functionality that ASP.NET doesn't have. For t

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Dave Watts
> I know it may be the norm, but I still don't have to like > it...it's not like it was a $75 piece of software. > > And I've learned from multiple upgrades in prior years of > other software and systems that there're always problems with > upgrading. I've witnessed them on this list. > > I ju

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Yep, learn ASP.net 2.0, php, python, or ruby. Learning any of these will help expand your ideas on how to approach different problems. CF is great, but it's not always the best solution. On 5/5/06, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd learn something other than CF, knowing 4.5.2 well e

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Aaron Rouse
I'd learn something other than CF, knowing 4.5.2 well enough to me would be good enough knowledge to pick up a later version of CFM but it helps none or very little to learn some other language. The more tools in your box, the better off you are. On 5/5/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks! I'll finally have something named after me! Little ole me! I want to thank all my fans, friends, etc... ;o) -Original Message- From: Crow T. Robot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer We s

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
OTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer >> I had about convinced myself to make the leap from 4.5, >> then Adobe decided that I had to pay $1300 while everyone >> else has to pay only about $600...just a little annoyed

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Crow T. Robot
even > now when I can afford it much more easily. Adobe's never had a policy like > that on any full version software that I know of...and I've used a lot of > theirs for years... > > MS is willing to give me a lot of software to get me in the fold... > > Rick >

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Ben Forta
plans for software that far back (and software that is so old that it is no longer supported), that really is the norm. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 4:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programm

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
e [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 4:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer There were a few custom tags for this that worked in CF4 and above. We use a in house built "framework" at one of the places I work and it was built on CF4. We use it on

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
eveloper Express 2005, Visual Studio Standard, Sql Server Express... Upgrade price and client cost to use my apps in-house...there's the two friction points. Rick -Original Message- From: Todd Rafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 3:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Never used it...I'll have to look into that, Charlie...maybe that'll give me a push back toward CF! ;o) -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 3:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer alon

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Aaron Rouse
; > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 3:31 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > > alone is worth $1300 :) > > > > ~~

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Todd Rafferty
Amen! ;) -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 3:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer alone is worth $1300 :) ~| Message: http

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Charlie Griefer
alone is worth $1300 :) On 5/5/06, Todd Rafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rick, > > I have to say I'm a little confuzzled about all this. I mean, you're in > CF4.5 now and ... you're claiming that $1300 is a lot to cough up for the > CFMX server and that you've made plenty of money with CF4.

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Todd Rafferty
Rick, I have to say I'm a little confuzzled about all this. I mean, you're in CF4.5 now and ... you're claiming that $1300 is a lot to cough up for the CFMX server and that you've made plenty of money with CF4.5, etc. What happened? The development difference between CF 4 and CFMX6/7 is night a

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Todd Rafferty
look for them. Just offering a different, probably unwelcomed response. ~Todd -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Thanks for the explanation and info, Jeff. >

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Jeff Fleitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer If you buy FlexBuilder 2 when it is released and install the standalone version, you won't have to know anything about Eclipse. You are isolated from Eclipse for

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the clarification, Ben...got it! Rick -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer FlexBuilder is built on top of Eclipse. It can be used in two ways: 1) If you have

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > So, to clarify...if I *want* to use Flex Builder, then I have > to use Eclipse and/or CFEclipse? I guess I'm trying to > completely understand what is meant by "Eclipsed based IDE"... Eclipse is an IDE. FlexBuilder is a

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Jeff Fleitz
If you buy FlexBuilder 2 when it is released and install the standalone version, you won't have to know anything about Eclipse. You are isolated from Eclipse for the most part. As Ben stated, the IDE runs on top of Eclipse. If you are using Eclipse as your primary IDE, then you can opt to instal

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Ben Forta
ssage- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer So, to clarify...if I *want* to use Flex Builder, then I have to use Eclipse and/or CFEclipse? I guess I'm trying to completely understand what i

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Dave Watts
> So, to clarify...if I *want* to use Flex Builder, then I have > to use Eclipse and/or CFEclipse? I guess I'm trying to > completely understand what is meant by "Eclipsed based IDE"... Eclipse is an IDE. FlexBuilder is a plugin for Eclipse. When you install FlexBuilder, you have the choice to

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Flex has no specific IDE requirements. Flex Builder is an Eclipse based IDE (which works really nicely alongside CFEclipse). There are lots of good reasons to use Flex Builder to build your Flex 2 apps, but no, Flex Builder is not require

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Brad Wood
~Brad -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Flex has no specific IDE requirements. Flex Builder is an Eclipse based IDE (which works really nicely alongside CFEclipse). There are lo

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Ben Forta
on the server, or just using the free Flex SDK. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Does the use of Flex require the use of CFEclipse or Eclipse at all? Rick

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Does the use of Flex require the use of CFEclipse or Eclipse at all? Rick -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Cfeclipse doesn't require any version of CF to run, it

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Snake
Cfeclipse doesn't require any version of CF to run, it is an IDE. It does support writing code for both CF5 and CFMX though. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 May 2006 17:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer What i

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
the "backroom" of app development > and not be used for the "showrooom" until search engine spider > compatibility can somehow be addressed. It would be a shame > to use such a powerful tool in such a limited roll. > > Rick > > > -Original Message--

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Jeff Fleitz
t; compatibility can somehow be addressed. It would be a shame > to use such a powerful tool in such a limited roll. > > Rick > > > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Fleitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:06 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
e a shame to use such a powerful tool in such a limited roll. Rick -Original Message- From: Jeff Fleitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer The info you are looking at regarding Flex pricing appears to be

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Jeff Fleitz
eptable for sites, not matter how > "Rich" the interactivity... > > Thoughts on this, anyone? > > Rick -Original Message- > From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:51 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: ASP.Net bo

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2006-05-05 Thread Denny Valliant
I did a google a while back when I took a look at the Flex2 builder plugin for Eclipse (Or more the videos demonstrating it.) for Flash accessibility issues. There were some caveats, but I don't remember any real show stoppers. I think the spidering is handleable as well. The price issue is a co

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
? Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer OpenLaszlo has an IDE for visual editing. It looks interesting, haven't played with it much. Flex has a well integrated vi

Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-04 Thread Denny Valliant
OpenLaszlo has an IDE for visual editing. It looks interesting, haven't played with it much. Flex has a well integrated visual editor as well. They're both sorta left of the HTML experience though... I'm guessing VWD stands for Visual Web Design, and thus this comment. :)enny On 5/4/06, Rick F

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
#x27;ll have to give it another look... Thanks, Rick -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer I guess so, but whether it has tag completion etc I don't know(chances ar

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-04 Thread Adrian Lynch
I guess so, but whether it has tag completion etc I don't know(chances are it doesn't). Would be cool I guess but I prefer Homesite. Adrian -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2006 15:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer I've been using Visual Web Dev(2005 Express, is there another version?) lately. One thing to keep in mind is that it's for .Net 2.0 and from the info I've found on the web, you can't make it only

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-03 Thread Snake
Go for it. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2006 17:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > Nevermind Dave, go back to sleep. That's a great idea! And while I'm asleep, I'll dream of a world where ev

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-03 Thread Dave Watts
> Nevermind Dave, go back to sleep. That's a great idea! And while I'm asleep, I'll dream of a world where everyone understands English. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-03 Thread Plunkett, Matthew
>From an administration standpoint, 4.5.1 is a nightmare compared to MX. Sandboxes are a good thing. You can secure MX much better than 4.5. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer That'

RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer

2006-05-03 Thread Rick Faircloth
2005 be used to create anything but asp.net pages? Can it be used to create cfm pages? Rick -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer I've been using Visual Web

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