if this is wrong.
Thanks!
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Juniper supports a feature called CCC (circuit cross
connect) which essentially enables layer two
technologies to span across WAN backbones via MPLS.
This works with many layer two encapsulations
including ppp, frame, ethernet
With all this Juniper stuff flying around, I remind you all to consider that core
routing represents something like 16% of Cisco's revenue stream and Juniper only make
core routers.
Pete
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Yes, I
Does anyone know of a good training center in NYC area for CCNP?
Where would you recommend I go?
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After posting I wondered how far my liberal use of the word "core" would get me :) To
be honest, very few terms in any vernacular can stand up to the rigorous hair
splitting that debate inspires. Lexical precision just isn't an important concept to
the marketing folks in this business.
comment inserted
For some reason, the BGP neighbor setup process won't take default route.
Therefore, I tried to add static route for the loopback interface and then
the bgp session finally came up. I would imagine using IGP to carry the
loopback address should work as well.
Richard
Beyond
I'd recommend you visit www.mplsrc.com
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Need some white papers or an info on MPLS.
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It was the intent to prepare a written exam that when passed indicates a strong
readiness for the lab test. Essentially, the difficulty levels between the written
and lab are designed to be comparable, whereas Cisco's written isn't on the same level
as its Lab.
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I don't think that anyone at Juniper or ISP's for that matter would consider the CCIE
cert as junior, or in any way lacking in technical difficulty. The issue is one of
applicability. ISP's deal at some depth with IP routing which is about 1/2 at most of
the CCIE program. As such, the cert
Can anybody tell me more about the IP relay in IPX/IGX switch ?
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What is the desired role for the device? Its hard to compare a pure IP router with an
enterprise L2/L3 box. Not that this is the first time I've heard the question :)
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Hello,
Anyone do a comparative
Juniper supports a feature called CCC (circuit cross connect) which essentially
enables layer two technologies to span across WAN backbones via MPLS. This works with
many layer two encapsulations including ppp, frame, ethernet/802.1q etc. This
technique can provide the type of functionality
couple comments inserted
Howard
It's misleading to think that all ISP routers need to be "core."
Arguably, the highest-bandwidth "core" routers inside an ISP may not
need to run full BGP, but have more stringent demands on OSPF, ISIS,
and/or MPLS. Think of RFC 2547 "P" routers.
dre
IBGP
ted as far as IP goes, but you don't want the management station
to get confused about which addresses are where.
HTH
Pamela
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Charles Peter wrote:
Can anybody tell me more about the IP relay in IPX/
One main difference is that separate subnet addressing must be used with
point to point. With point to multipoint you can use the same addressing
subnet...making it easier to migrate from NBMA or broadcast network type if
you are using OSPF.
Also,... with either one I don't think you need static
I'm not sure if I follow you here. I believe the question has to do with how the
peering became established in the first place. Simply adding a neighbor statement to
a router in no way enables the router to find a route to that particular neighbor.
Actually, the issue of routing to remote
Maximum Transfer Units (MTU) have an significant impact on the efficiency of traffic
flow. MTU's are set on a per link basis and describe the maximum datagram size
permitted on a link. Should a datagram size exceed the particular MTU on a link, the
datagram is either dropped or fragmented
I think one has to assume that there is reachability via some means between the two
routers. Sam indicates at the beginning of the section that only relevant snippets of
configs will be posted in each example and in this case I expect there are missing
items both on F and the intermediary E.
The CCIE program does little to develop the skill set of a pure IP engineer in a ISP
environment. CCIE has little bearing in my opinion when candidate are interviewed for
senior IP architectural positions. CCIE is really an enterprise discipline.
Pete
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to some Cisco IP Telephony/Call Center
training too. :-)
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The CCIE program does little to develop the skill set of a p
Enterprise refers to the customer base that the products/services are marketed to.
Enterprise is generally broken into segments by size, and refers to the networks
operated by the companies that utilize them themselves for the purpose of facilitating
business processes.
There's probably a
A better question would be "what is the mean or medium rate for persons of such and
such experience with such and such designations working in a primarily technical role
in a specific area" You have to be that specific for answers to have any value
whatsoever.
I would recommend that people
I would look simply at MPLS. Whether the packet contents are encapsulated via IPSec
or not is really not relevant. Check out the 2547bis draft and potentially some of
the layer 2 vpn drafts that are available. The ietf is really your source for this
type of information.
Pete
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Ok.. maybe my answer was a little lean
Here are some key drafts (watch the x in some for the latest draft)
all of these are found at www.ietf.org
2547 Draft: draft-rosen-rfc2547bis-0x.txt
BGP Route Refresh draft-ietf-idr-bgp-route-refresh-0x.txt
BGP Extended Comm's
Couple comments inserted below
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On 2/20/2001 at 11:55 AM Ahmed Aden wrote:
Scott,
I think the problem is with you putting 'no synchronization' in
router1. I would also say that if you did a ping to 33.33.33.1 from
router2 it would work because the 192
I think you'll need to open a Cisco TAC case for this one,
but send the 'show stack' and 'show version'
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Check your configuration if you're running an integrated csu/dsu that
you don't have a 'loopback' command configured. If you're running an
external csu/dsu, check that you don't have a local loopback or loopback
dte.
If the above are negative, speak to your telco and see that they have a
loop
Per my other post, STP prevents looping traffic in general, not simply broadcasts.
Pete
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On 2/19/2001 at 6:50 AM Kenneth wrote:
Jason is right. This will defeat the purpose of Spanning Tree of creating a
single path to a destination. The primary reason
Hello All,
Does anyone know where I can rent or lease an ISDN simulator such as a
Teltone for my CCIE prep lab? I'd rather spend a few hundred dollars
and rent one for a month as opposed to buying one for $1800.00.
And I haven't seen any on Ebay for a while.
Thanks,
Pete
How is current layer 3 switching any different from routing? I believe your concern
would lie with forwarding performance?
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You obviously can't do layer 3 SWITCHING with a box loaded with Linux. It
might do
The Olive is a PC class machine that runs JunOS. It is however not sold nor supported
nor at all endorsed for use outside of Juniper.
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This isn't really a fair question. We'd need to know things like the current load on
the router, other processes/protocols running, memory, link state database size, area
size etc.
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Has
. Hope that helps!
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It actually also has some of the freshest decodes I've seen (ie RSVP-TE/OSPF-TE etc)
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Can someone please send me the 12.X.T IOS image? For a 3102 modified to a
2500 series router 1 serial and 1 Ethernet.
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Anyone with a contract or s/n can open a TAC case. I believe CCIE's are automatically
escalated a level should they happen to open a case. Further, Silver and Gold
partners need to have a certain percentage of their cases opened by CCIE's to
demonstrate the requisite level of internal
Would someone please recommend some free or commercial utilities that I can
use to check and monitor websites status? Thank you all.
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A quick point of clarity.
VLAN routing is not a technology. In fact, the two terms are completely unrelated. A
VLAN is simply a broadcast domain that is not specifically bounded by physical
limitations. Routing on the other hand has to do with building forwarding tables and
making
Redistribute what?
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On 2/1/2001 at 8:02 PM Curtis Call wrote:
There's something that I'm curious about dealing with OSPF ASBRs. Let's
say your ASBR is also an ABR that is bordering area 0 and area 1. Is there
a way that you could specify to only
So you are talking about a topology where you have an ASBR that also borders Area 0
and is thus also an ABR by definition.
The question is then, "can I control which external prefixes enter the rest of the
ospf domain as type 5 LSA's" I would have to say that you cannot by definition
Why don't you post your configs. At least the relevant pieces of them
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I am testing BGP in a lab
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1) Router A has networks
' and a comma in the wrong place and it didn't
work!
If you want a production platform with decent performance user record
validation then you will have to pay for a commercial one.
Hope that that helps.
Peter
Kevin Wigle wrote:
and further on things tacacs..
Our lab tech is really an anti-NT
I've always used the exact match mask of 0.0.0.0 to specify interface addresses to
place in the OSPF process. I find this way to be much simpler for config reading
which is helpful during troubleshooting.
-pete
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layer 3 VLAN and a router is needed.
Layer 2 VLANs mostly used for filtering (never done, I supose is a hard work to
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An EIGRP router interface has detected another EIGRP router interface on the same
multi-access segment that it connects to, however they are running different subnets
which means that they will not form a neighbor relationship. I see this a lot when
people try to use secondaries. I would
OSPF does not make use of an "autonomous system number". Process id is only
significant within the router itself.
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Does the OSPF process id have anything to do with its autonomous system
number? In the
This contradicts my experience at the lab. If they explicitly tell you to not use
inverse arp, you will be penalized. However, if they do not specify how a config
should be built, its not an illegal configuration.
My preference is always
1. Sub Interfaces
2. Physical Interface/Inverse Arp
Before we get all feature crazed here, let me make a point in the defence of
simplicity. Given the fact that technical and in some cases corporate ownership of
enterprise networks is often transient, it is always wise to implement systems in
simplistic ways. Naturally there has to be some
Here is what I think about the wording below. They key thing to remember is that a
withdrawn message does not need to carry as much information about a routes attributes
as does an advertisement message. In both cases, a route describes a destination and
a BGP Next_Hop address along with
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I have to slightly disagree. CCIE is a test, pure and simple. It actually doesn't
relate much at all to real world experience. When would you rush like a maniac to
build a superfluously complex network in 12 hours with only limited guidelines and
then have it maliciously tampered with while
Using addressed outside of the 1918 space that are properly registered with a registry
can have some benefit to those organization that possess a sufficient quantity of them
to suit their needs. The question I would ask would be; "what do you gain by using
the 1918 space when you have enough
I'm just curious why people seem to disregard the concept of using NAT and registered
addresses together? Just because you have unique addressing doesn't mean you have to
announce the prefixes to the Internet. I would highly suggest you use registered
space in the same way that you would use
Using addressed outside of the 1918 space that are properly registered with a registry
can have some benefit to those organization that possess a sufficient quantity of them
to suit their needs. The question I would ask would be; "what do you gain by using
the 1918 space when you have enough
like the www.boson.com test.
There are a lot of free practice exams on the internet. Do a search and give
them a try. For me it's the more the merrier.
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Using the traditional, static means, your router receives a gateway of last resort
that is fixed to a particular next hop router (or multiple in the event that you
configure multiple) However, if the router has a number of outbound connections, you
may not be maximizing your resiliency in
As Howard might say "what problem are you trying to solve?"
If you are looking at this for certification purposes, I would say glide lightly over
areas of a granular nature such as the performance of an SPF algorithm. For these
purposes, Jeff or Radia's coverage (more so Jeff's in the case
I would add to that RFC 2547 and the more recent modification 2547bis.
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On 12/26/2000 at 11:24 AM Talib wrote:
Below are two cisco documents.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/so/neso/vvda/ipatm/index.shtml
I would clarify that the rule here is that you each BGP speaking router needs to have
a route to the Next Hop routers advertised into the AS.
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On 12/21/2000 at 9:43 PM Katson PN Yeung wrote:
In case you have 2 routers connect back-to-back with iBGP,
Hi Dan,
I thought I would throw my two cents in.
There are a few key reasons why one requires an interior routing protocol (or at worst
case a routing strategy should one use statics) within an AS. First and foremost, you
must consider what iBGP does within the AS. Essentially, it allows
crew that would be comparable to the Juniper product set.
Have a look at www.juniper.net for more information. If you are indeed looking for a
sales rep, I can likely help you find one.
Peter A. Van Oene
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Due to the fact that Cisco Certs are very technology centric as well as the massive
install base of Cisco based solutions, I would expect that the certs will retain their
value for a good period of time. However, it is always wise to keep abreast of more
than one implementation of technology
ok.. i just woke up and may be groggy, but what is a layer 2 cable?
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On 12/9/2000 at 5:10 PM Gareth Hinton wrote:
Layer 2 Cat 5 cables for sale.
All MAC addresses configured identical (to make addressing system easy).
Anyone interested?
In defence of
I sat the CID Beta yesterday, or rather that is what I booked for, that
is what it said at the end
but the heading throughout the paper itself was 'Cisco Secure VPN' and
the questions were
certainly more akin to VPN security than Design.
Has anyone else had a similar experience / problem?
Peter
there is no valid load for it.
Hope that helps anyone else setting up the CAT for CIPT.
peter whittle wrote:
Hi,
I am working towards CIPT 2.0 (Cisco Call Manager v3.0) exam.
I have a CAT 6K in the core with 6608 (8 port E1 blade) as per the CIPT
LABs.
The problem is that the 6608 resets itself after
Halabi's book is a good reference. I would also pay a lot of attention to the
following
*RFC 1771 BGP v4
*RFC 1997 BGP Communities
*RFC 2796 BGP Route Reflection
*RFC 1965 BGP AS Confederations
*RFC 1998 BGP Communities for Multihoming
I would also read Cisco's
Halabi's book is a good reference. I would also pay a lot of attention to the
following
*RFC 1771 BGP v4
*RFC 1997 BGP Communities
*RFC 2796 BGP Route Reflection
*RFC 1965 BGP AS Confederations
*RFC 1998 BGP Communities for Multihoming
I would also read Cisco's
Getting traffic off the net in a somewhat balanced fashion is the easy part. Finding
a way to have equal amounts of it traverse multiple AS's and end up at two differing
entry points into the AS is the stuff of GODS :)
Pete
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On 12/4/2000 at 4:07 PM
I would concur that the written is not a challenging test. If you've managed to get
through the NP cert, you should be able to pass with little (if any) additional prep
work. I do recall more IBM technology stuff on the written than in the NP track so
checking into that would help.
I too
On which router are the "suppressing null updates" messages appearing?
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guys !
i have two routers connected
As per david's msg, it would seem that I may be entirely mistaken! (like thats a first
:)
headed back to study :)
pete
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On 11/29/2000 at 8:58 AM Peter Van Oene wrote:
One or two comments inset.
Chuck's Text
I would venture a guess that the BDR
would
One or two comments inset.
Chuck's Text
I would venture a guess that the BDR
would be promoted because even though there is an alternative route to the
DR loopback, hellos go only to adjacent routers, and the DR is no longer
adjacent.
Well, I proved my point. Under this scenario, when I unplug
Keep in mind that Weight is Cisco proprietary. Most routers begin with local pref as
the first tie break.
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On 11/27/2000 at 8:18 AM Frank Wells wrote:
This is the BGP attribute decision process:
1 BGP Path Selection starts; if the next hop is
Can anyone definitively tell me what the pass mark is for the CCNP routing
exam.
Some things I have seen indicate 80% others around 69% is the actual pass
/fail boundary.
Im taking this on friday and aiming for something in the mid 80's to be safe
but would prefer to know before I sit the exam.
Can you clarify what you mean by autonomous systems? The term is somewhat ambiguous
in this context.
Thanks,
Pete
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On 11/23/2000 at 9:12 AM ALI SHEERAZ wrote:
hi friends
i want to redistribute OSPF with EIGRP and the reditribution is across
Title: Packeteer
The Packeteer unit would have the ability to apply some quality of service
to your outbound traffic (via TCP window manipulation with application layer
awareness).
However, doing so would require them to setup a policy based on the
application requirements at your site. I
It is my belief that the P bit is unmodifiable. Type 7's are advertised as 5's to the
OSPF domain in almost if not all manufacturers equipment. Although some texts allude
to the fact that you can control this behavior with a nob, I've never seen it.
Pete
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disable the unused (un-terminated) E1 ports.
However, the 6608 still resets itself all be it not quite so frequently.
I have tried a 2nd SUP 1A 2GE card, a different PSU and a different 6608
blade - all without success!
Any ideas?
Thanks
Peter
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want to use nat to translate to private inside addresses. The async needs to
automatically take over if the isdn link goes down and needs to drop once
the isdn comes back up. I only have an IP IOS to play with. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Peter
Local preference is only significant with your AS. Thus, if traffic destined for this
customer hit your AS, you would use local preference as the first piece of criteria
(outside of weight in cisco I believe) to determine which of your available next hops
into that customer you would post in
this rfc pertains to service provider vpn's leveraging mpls/bgp
implementations. Its likely a fairly complex topic for those who are
interested in a general understanding of the "vpn" concept. I will
personally suggest that vpn is one of the more overused and ambiguous terms
floating around
Although i haven' t read it (i probably should), I have to say that this is a very
highly referenced text in the internet community. I've seen in on many reading lists
and even more bibliographies.
I will say that Halabi's book is an excellent text. However, I wouldn't overlook
RFC's
IS-IS is a routing (routeing really) protocol that can provide routing services for
both CLNP (the network protocol in CLNS's network service) as well as for IP. Hence,
although you may not be required to setup and route CLNP, it may be that you have to
setup IS-IS to route IP (which involves
on of those who wrote the
RFC, or flooded the term through the engineering world?
Did we ever determine if the term "split horizon" truly did have a nautical
influence?
Chuck
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There are over 15 different labs from what I understand. Distributions vary per each
one. As far as gear goes, call the proctor or administrator at the facility and ask.
That information is not confidential. There is no mark distribution to be found. I'd
spend more time studying what you
Off topic, but from a technical precision perspective, I have a feeling that the
correct term is "damping" not "dampening." RFC 2439, the damping rfc, refers to the
process exclusively as damping. It would seem that Cisco in both description and
command syntax, uses the term dampening,
IS-IS is used by a large percentage of 1st tier internet backbone providers. From
what I understand, it was chosen not for technical superiority over OSPF, but becuase
cisco's IS-IS code was more stable at the time. At present, IS-IS maintains a couple
advantages over OSPF in the ISP world.
I would be one to suggest that OSPF scales far better than EIGRP. From what I
understand, the dual algorithm and large networks do not get along well. I have very
little experience with large scale EIGRP however.
Pete
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On 11/16/2000 at 3:47 PM Rik
ISP's use IGP's (be they OSPF or IS-IS) for internal reachability (IBGP peering is
generally done on loopbacks and these networks need to be advertised) and for next hop
resolution. Hence, all the perimeter BGP next hops will be advertised into the IGP so
that all IBGP speakers can properly
Route maps are also heavily used in BGP to support things like as-path filtering and
communities.
Pete
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On 11/15/2000 at 11:29 AM Sophie wrote:
distribute-list is used to exchange the routing information between two
different routing protocols. While
I believe you made the point, but can you confirm that your routing clns with your
IS-IS config? And if so, are you looking to block the clnp routes from the other
routers? or all Interface(s) on each router ? Can you clarify? There also seems to
be some dual isis going on (router A?B?)
Couple comments/questions inserted
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On 11/15/2000 at 2:14 AM Rodgers Moore wrote:
ebgp multihop has nothing to do with load balancing traffic to and from the
Internet, but it has everything to do with load balancing the the bgp
connection and update
It's my experience that companies do not buy certificates, they hire people. Hard or
not, simply passing tests does not imply superiority in my books.
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Just a thought. But I was
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