Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and intimacy (lost in the weeks?)

2016-02-29 Thread glen
tions have to be part of an experimental program concerning an abstraction." I wonder if I believe it. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and intimacy (lost in the weeks?)

2016-02-29 Thread glen
On 02/29/2016 03:44 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: [NST==>Glen. I started to write a long cranky note, claiming to disagree with this, but then I realized that I didn’t understand it. Unless, you are arguing … is this it? … that we can use a scientific abstraction to interpret an observation wh

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and intimacy (lost in the weeks?)

2016-02-29 Thread glen
uld sacrifice personal measures of productivity for group measures? -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and intimacy

2016-02-22 Thread glen
especially the pain of loosing someone. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Weeds of pragmatism: Subjectivity and intimacy

2016-02-24 Thread glen
Perhaps I should say that people were killed because they said they disagreed. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

[FRIAM] Explain xkcd

2016-03-10 Thread glen
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Here's to the 1%!

2016-04-05 Thread glen
". On 04/05/2016 05:03 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > Thanks, Marcus, now we know how to get things sorted out here on FRIAM, > > -- rec -- > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com > <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com&

Re: [FRIAM] Here's to the 1%!

2016-04-07 Thread glen
then it could allow for larger and larger elite classes until, perhaps, the difference between those that can _use_ the law and those that are abused by the law is simply one of choice. If you put in the hours, you too can be a law user. -- -- ⊥ glen ⊥ ===

Re: [FRIAM] The Unbearable Asymmetry of Bullshit | Quillette

2016-03-02 Thread glen
ople like Earp as _bad_ people. They're just magical thinkers. They believe in unicorns and rainbows and wonder why we can't just skip to the _end_. Earp already knows the truth, knows reality, and wonders why we have to spend so much time and effort slogging through

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

2016-03-04 Thread glen
to a significance that's unwarranted ... to talk about thoughts and feelings as if they exist, without any similarity measure with which to falsify them. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity, intimacy, experience

2016-03-02 Thread glen
asserts that your question can be answered completely, and without remainder, by explaining how your child’s behavior becomes a function of things that happened in the past. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a

Re: [FRIAM] The Unbearable Asymmetry of Bullshit | Quillette

2016-03-02 Thread glen
more polite enterprise? [*] http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2620 -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity, intimacy, experience

2016-03-03 Thread glen
On 03/02/2016 12:07 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: Thanks Glen. For me even the state machine isn't quite enough. A state machine version wouldn't even in principle distinguish between a robot/zombie and a living being. I don't understand why you think state machines are inadequate for making

Re: [FRIAM] Ting Internet | Crazy fast fiber Internet for US cities

2016-03-07 Thread glen
point of view, it’s all irrelevant. The more use the better. Again my apologies for being annoying. You have made several very helpful contributions to this thread, and I would hate to lose you. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] The latest breakthrough in this new field, published by Max Tegmark of MIT, postulates that consciousness is actually a state of matter. “Just as there are many types of liquids, there are

2016-03-07 Thread glen
that the Universe is a simulation: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/24600/24600-6110882420771344387?midToken=AQEbcS8P5bf1fA=eml-b2_anet_digest_of_digests-hero-7-discussion~subject=eml-b2_anet_digest_of_digests-hero-7-discussion~subject-null-1oza~ilffao4t~6o&_mSplash=1 -- ⇔

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

2016-03-04 Thread glen
my cats (yes, I have more than one, unfortunately). And the interpreter is the mental construct(s) I use to organize the house (feeding times, expected behaviors, etc.) with respect to those cats. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group lis

Re: [FRIAM] Subjectivity and square roots

2016-03-04 Thread glen
e holographic principle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle And although it may not be true, it's certainly a pretty solid idea. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St

Re: [FRIAM] mass surveillance

2016-03-29 Thread glen
. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] To Be “A Speaker of Words and a Doer of Deeds:” Literature and Leadership | Harvard University

2016-03-29 Thread glen
-doer-deeds-literature-and-leadership -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] mass surveillance

2016-03-29 Thread glen
heir fairly benign yet counter-culture opinions or ideas will be held against them. I agree with the idea that our willingness to conform to the corruption (of any kind) contributes to the problem quite directly. Too many people respond to this idea as a form of

Re: [FRIAM] mass surveillance

2016-03-29 Thread glen
any pressure to conform. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Origins of Life

2016-04-27 Thread glen
fish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com =

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Richard Rohr's Meditation: Consciousness and Contemplation

2016-05-18 Thread glen
longer just /out there/, but equally /in here/. Until that > transference takes place and you know that it is God in me loving God--God in > me worshipping God, resting in God, enjoying God--the whole point of the > incarnation has not been achieved, and we remain in religion instead

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-18 Thread glen
e and church. > > > Paul Feyerabend has been called the worst enemy of science by a 1987 /Nature > /essay. Maybe this is justone reason among many > <https://www.quora.com/Is-it-common-among-scientists-to-scorn-philosophy> why > it is perceived that scientists

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-19 Thread glen
On 05/18/2016 07:06 PM, Robert Wall wrote: > Yikes! Skeptic-on-skeptic fight! This linked article you bring Glen begs an > interesting question: When does a skeptic just become just a contrarian? I > mean, what do skeptics publish but skepticism and critiques contrary to the > t

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-18 Thread glen
that is promoted from the inside by the promoters, who would be less critical of their own work of course. His writings encourage me to look deeper. -- ⛧ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-20 Thread glen
predicted that? --- That was a comment on this article: http://www.nature.com/news/scientific-sceptics-hit-back-after-rebuke-1.19945?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews On 05/19/2016 08:29 AM, glen ⛧ wrote: > For me, I tend to be a skeptic in my own field (modeling & simulation) and a > contrarian outside it. And on this

Re: [FRIAM] if you see something, say something

2016-05-09 Thread glen
ing into rants about the sorry state of education, it succeeded in at least one case. Perhaps the real lesson is to do all your math in tools like Scilab or Mathematica. -- -- ⊥ glen ⊥ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a

[FRIAM] Tagged "Get off my lawn!"

2016-05-09 Thread glen
Programming by poking: why MIT stopped teaching SICP http://www.posteriorscience.net/?p=206_mid=0e370a=em-prog-na-na-newsltr_20160507 -- ⛧ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's

Re: [FRIAM] Tagged "Get off my lawn!"

2016-05-09 Thread glen
, May 9, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com <mailto:g...@naturesvisualarts.com>> wrote: In the words of the (in)famous Ross Perot, "Now, that's just sad." On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:57 PM, glen <geprope...@gmail.com <mailto:geprope...@gmail.com&

Re: [FRIAM] Tagged "Get off my lawn!"

2016-05-09 Thread glen
the graph should be chopped up into consumable sound bites without regard to their coherence or utility for learnin g other things. -- ⛧ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John

[FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Tagged "Get off my lawn!"

2016-05-10 Thread glen
Oops. I meant to spam everyone with this, not just Leigh. Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Tagged "Get off my lawn!" Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 12:38:25 -0700 From: glen <geprope...@gmail.com> To: Leigh Fanning <le...@versiera.net> The "

Re: [FRIAM] Tagged "Get off my lawn!"

2016-05-11 Thread glen
re not knocking down my door looking for expertise in things like Mean.io, either. 8^) -- ⛧ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Tagged "Get off my lawn!"

2016-05-11 Thread glen
g about the world in the process. Same sort of > wasted motion in fashion or popular music or the world of celebrity. -- ⛧ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Tagged "Get off my lawn!"

2016-05-11 Thread glen
(intellectual) cash he could keep people at bay, period. The "reflexes" are no worse, from age, and maybe better, but I'm not going to work 30 hours straight anymore because that's just stupid. -- ⛧ glen FRIAM Applied C

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-17 Thread glen
hat in polite company. Plus, a dry raspberry is like throwing up your hands or shrugging. "Pfft, I don't know where to go from here." A wet raspberry is more playful, more context- and less content-driven. -- ⛧ glen FRIAM A

Re: [FRIAM] The Unbearable Asymmetry of Bullshit | Quillette

2016-05-16 Thread glen
think > it is more likely his actions are without purpose or coherent ideology. He's > not gaming different constituencies to get his way, he is just looking for a > way to be instrumental. He's a shallow person, a salesman and

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-16 Thread glen
e outside, or beyond, experience. So, how would one anchor in experience, such claims as “consciousness is nothing but brain activity”? -- ⛧ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College

Re: [FRIAM] The Unbearable Asymmetry of Bullshit | Quillette

2016-05-13 Thread glen
Magazine, and other publications. She was the recipient of a 2015 Beacon of Reason Award from Oregonians for Science and Reason. She holds a Master’s degree in philosophy from Tufts University." -- ⛧ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group l

Re: [FRIAM] The Unbearable Asymmetry of Bullshit | Quillette

2016-05-13 Thread glen
someone translate what you said. On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 10:07 AM, glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: On 03/02/2016 09:12 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: http://quillette.com/2016/02/15/the-unbearable-asymmetry-of-bullshit/ On Bullshit: Donald Trump, Harry Frankfurt, and Indifference to Truth CF

Re: [FRIAM] Strawson on consciousness.

2016-05-18 Thread glen
AhVX3mMKHZxNBE8QFgguMAI=http%3A%2F%2Fjournals.plos.org%2Fplosmedicine%2Farticle%3Fid%3D10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.0020124=AFQjCNGnlrRZK18zALFoV13bVKFpywymjg=erIO_WZ6jK3DgZsqfdLu2w=bv.122129774,d.cGc> > by Dr. John Ioannidis last decade. -- ⛧ glen =

Re: [FRIAM] Tagged "Get off my lawn!"

2016-05-10 Thread glen
s picture is that the niche-fillers start to fancy > the idea there are different universes popping out the closure and see no > need to reconcile them. They see N vectors instead of one eigenvector. -- ⛧ glen FRIAM Applied Comp

Re: [FRIAM] Here’s Why I’m a Proud Godzilla Supporter - The New Yorker

2016-04-15 Thread glen
hammer to help ensure the mad lizzard doesn't turn Newyork into a crater. The chitari and Bantner already beat them to it. -- ⇔ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College

Re: [FRIAM] Here’s Why I’m a Proud Godzilla Supporter - The New Yorker

2016-04-15 Thread glen
you flush it all away. Time to bring it down again. Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines. I can't imagine why you wouldn't Welcome any change, my friend. I wanna see it all come down. Bring it down Suck it down. Flush it down.

Re: [FRIAM] Here’s Why I’m a Proud Godzilla Supporter - The New Yorker

2016-04-15 Thread glen
20Template%20-%20With%20Photo%20%2829%29=26657004=8790175=MTA5MjQwNDgzOTMyS0=901616882=OTAxNjE2ODgyS0> -- -- ⊥ glen ⊥ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe ht

Re: [FRIAM] weird malware

2016-07-28 Thread glen
If you search on ninus.ocn.ne.jp, you get lots of spam warnings. If coerced, I'd guess that you have a program on your machine or in your network that's trying to send out those spam emails. Perhaps you're part of a botnet? On 07/28/2016 03:54 PM, Russell Standish wrote: One for the

Re: [FRIAM] weird malware

2016-07-28 Thread glen
are as fluxed with symbiotic-ware (what is the benign form of malware) as our own personal biomes... maybe we are already on our way down that road? Does anyone track Stephanie Forrest's computer immune systems? I'm betting we have some evolutionary biologists here as well? -- ☣ glen

Re: [FRIAM] weird malware

2016-07-28 Thread glen
;li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote: >On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 04:15:21PM -0700, glen ☣ wrote: >> >> If you search on ninus.ocn.ne.jp, you get lots of spam warnings. If >coerced, I'd guess that you have a program on your machine or in your >network that's trying to send out those spam em

Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism and Mass Shootings

2016-08-01 Thread glen
t; > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > >

Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism and Mass Shootings

2016-08-02 Thread glen
s the situation in > Santa Fe really so bad? I thought Owen earns well? though and still don't that my needs and wants get met all that well. > -- ☢ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism and Mass Shootings

2016-08-01 Thread glen
r) tedious and highly-replicated personal problems. > > Marcus.. who is looking forward to an introverted president and not a > narcissist. They are not the same thing. -- ☢ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Me

Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism and Mass Shootings

2016-08-02 Thread glen
ncer cells proliferate. > > I don't know how reproduction rates change during world wars or civil wars. > One might expect that reproduction rates would go up. Evolution could be > looking for a way to make them go down, and I think vape pipes have to be a > part of that! --

Re: [FRIAM] ISPs and FCC Republicans celebrate FCC’s court loss on muni broadband | Ars Technica

2016-08-12 Thread glen
The squid is a false prophet! On 08/12/2016 10:50 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Next time I have a chat with a famous squid and it's worshipers I'll ask. -- ␦glen? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Understanding you-folks

2016-07-13 Thread glen
dicial system. Mostly it is just the > evolution of anticipatory behaviors from high or low fitness. Mommy and the > kids just try to keep Daddy the tyrant from losing his cool, and in doing so > evolve an effective control system. -- ☢ glen ==

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Understanding you-folks

2016-07-13 Thread glen
tinuation of the conversation about computational universality. Does it simply annoy you that it still has the same subject line? -- ☢ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubsc

Re: [FRIAM] Mobile Vulgis was: Anyone from England

2016-06-28 Thread glen
ant it. That’s what an education in philosophy is supposed to do to you)." -- ☢ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Understanding you-folks

2016-07-07 Thread glen
on encourages underspecification. Conversely, having a higher > level conception of computation can facilitate the engineers to move toward > the science too. -- ☢ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding you-folks

2016-07-06 Thread glen
2 and 2? > Dad says, "Four" > Four > End. > > It is, however, an algorithm, right? -- ☢ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding you-folks

2016-07-06 Thread glen
. You're leaping too far. Nature could be _near_ computational or structurally analogous to computation. If that were the case, then we can productively model nature up to that nearness, within that ball of similarity. Much like the Cheeto Jesus simulates a human. -- ☣ glen

Re: [FRIAM] Understanding you-folks

2016-07-06 Thread glen
ers are computations. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Understanding you-folks

2016-07-07 Thread glen
be possible "in the future" to understand, with the precision of a program on a universal computer, the justification of every decision leading to a device and thus the outputs of the device. Technical papers should basically be literate computer programs.

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Re: Understanding you-folks

2016-07-07 Thread glen
it. The theoreticians would still do the creative side. More than just LaTeX but less than AI. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman

Re: [FRIAM] TPP pro and con

2016-08-04 Thread glen
Balance Theory. Basically, if I like Obama and I like Sanders, Obama and Sanders ought to like each other. So when they disagree about something as fundamental as trade policy, it creates, for me, cognitive dissonance. -- ☣ glen FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] TPP pro and con

2016-08-04 Thread glen
re of both non- and military influence. On 08/04/2016 11:44 AM, Nick Thompson wrote: Ok. Here’s a question: putting aside dumb conspiracy theories, if TPP is so bad, why is Obama for it. Deep answers only, please. -- ☣ glen FRI

Re: [FRIAM] TPP pro and con

2016-08-04 Thread glen
n-2016-tpp-trade-nafta .. pretty diverse opinions. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] TPP pro and con

2016-08-06 Thread glen
Thanks everyone for tossing so many words at the issue. I'm less ignorant now. 8^) -- glen ⛧ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman

Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism and Mass Shootings

2016-08-01 Thread glen
descriptions. On 08/01/2016 01:28 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: I don't think a reader should be forced to choose between (1) or (2), but I would prefer that the writer be aware enough to refer to context rather than restating it as if it were their invention. -- ☣ glen

[FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

2017-02-01 Thread glen
hematical conferences or programs in the US, with many > international speakers (including those from countries not directly affected > by the order) now cancelling their visit, either in protest or in concern > about their ability to freely enter and le

[FRIAM] Brave (was The year ahead)

2017-02-02 Thread glen
tus/827237286773264384 -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by

[FRIAM] premature acceptance of suspect assertions

2017-02-03 Thread glen
ark > assertions tracked with a subject's position on the political spectrum. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/li

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-31 Thread glen
simply > cannot overcome where we are, we're past the tipping point. Certainly in > software. > > And you? -- ␦glen? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove

[FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-06 Thread glen
network and whether I'm even part of any communities at all. By what means do _parts_ represent their wholes? Isn't this just another version of Russell's paradox? -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
don’t see the relationship between communities, and those that make a > call-to-action. There are organizations that are more or less potent. I > just want the gas I'm contributing to the bulldozer will send it in sort of > the direction I would like. In part, we've got Trump now because too many

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
disrupt the current order just enough to (perhaps) bring it back into a better optimum. They're assuming my persnickety dialogue is an attempt to do things right or find the truth. But it's actually just heat. It's interesting that _they_ see me as belong

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
t; communication sequential processes formalism. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
s. "The problem with communication is the illusion that it exists." There are no shared ideas; no shared understanding. There is only shared action, mediated by some medium, which is why Steve's broaching of the commons is important. -- ☣ glen ===

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
ut laughed at me. That immediate correction toward consensus reality became canonical to me at the time. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://re

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
other and the environment. To argue that all of what's inside can be adequately represented by what goes in or out (holographic principle) is fideistic. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
On 02/07/2017 11:36 AM, Merle Lefkoff wrote: > Glen, somehow I missed your original post. Do you mind re-posting again? I have that problem a lot, too. It seems to have made the archive. I wonder if there are issues with the mail queue at friam.com? I used to rely on the gmane copy as w

Re: [FRIAM] HELPING RESEARCH GATE TO FULFILL ITS PROMISE by Nicholas Simonds Thompson - Research Project on ResearchGate

2017-02-08 Thread glen
doesn't support CVs -- at least at this point. > They don't seem to have any plan to do so. You may want to check it out. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College t

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
o learnable patterns and no way to ground meaning. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
t such a membership can't be determined solely by identifies-with. Lots of people think they hold facts in high esteem, but really just believe anything that looks like a fact. And that means that our mechanisms for determining what commun

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
early the same time and one of them waits for the > other. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FR

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
also learn from previous experience or history how > certain events play out and form approximate models in meme space. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College

Re: [FRIAM] loopiness (again)

2017-02-07 Thread glen
based decisions are based on being part of a community of misfits. >8^D -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo

[FRIAM] Why depth/thickness matters

2017-02-08 Thread glen
assumption of the modeling relation (i.e. inference ≉ cause), and 2) I still think intra-individual circularity is necessary for biomimicry. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's

Re: [FRIAM] SFI to Trump: The dangers of simplicity in a complex world

2017-02-06 Thread glen
stions. And then I left. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/

Re: [FRIAM] SFI to Trump: The dangers of simplicity in a complex world

2017-02-06 Thread glen
e is inaccessible > to a diligent, moderately intelligent, practitioner of neighboring sciences, > does that not limit the development of that science? -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe a

[FRIAM] ACLU joins Y combinator

2017-02-01 Thread glen
rtant work. In particular, if you’re an engineer and want to spend some > time helping them out, let us know. We’ll keep you updated on opportunities. > > Also, please consider donating to the ACLU. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Com

Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

2017-01-31 Thread glen
culturally (i.e. taken for granted, daily events, open research and > software) that populism, any of the 10 examples cited, can reverse it, It > tipped. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30

Re: [FRIAM] on the obustness of globalism

2017-02-02 Thread glen
ers/scrambled-text -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogsp

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-23 Thread glen
istribution of various biological attributes. And to whatever extent we have the ability to guide or bias the ur-generated ephemerides in and around us becomes technology and politics. -- ␦glen? -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-23 Thread glen
she's a crypto-Buddhist? I did enjoy the book. I hated Lila, though. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_re

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-23 Thread glen
vation, epidemic, etc. but we really only measure success by the top X% of the pyramid. If Peter Thiel lives to be 200 years old, it will be a success we can _all_ claim some part of ... even as I scrounge through dumpsters when Renee' finally gets tired of my contrar

Re: [FRIAM] Nautilus: Investing Is More Luck Than Talent

2017-01-23 Thread glen
al has a path to the fundamental parallelism of the ideology. What has died is rural neoliberalism. You can't globalize and reap the benefits by installing Walmarts and Wells Fargo branches. -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group

[FRIAM] cafeteria buddhism

2017-01-24 Thread glen
of the context? On 01/21/2017 02:21 PM, Robert Wall wrote: > The Buddhist have their notion in the /Dharma/, which is kind of an Operators > Manual for the brain. But people don't seem to WANT to live that way even > though they like to decorate their homes with statues of the Buddha. -

Re: [FRIAM] cafeteria buddhism

2017-01-24 Thread glen
at sort of thing. My favorite mathematician Raymond Smullyan has written a few books on religion that talk quite a bit about Christianity. He seemed to suggest that it's overall a decent system _if_ you get rid of the concept of Hell. And I think Hitchens used to identify Hell as the most abhorre

Re: [FRIAM] cafeteria buddhism

2017-01-24 Thread glen
Best part of inaguaration day! Watch Brass Band Perform Darth Vader's Theme Outside Trump Tower http://chicagoist.com/2017/01/20/video_watch_brass_band_perform_dart.php -- ☣ glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism Again

2017-01-26 Thread glen
-voice-analysis-finds-2016-01-15 It makes me wonder if he's taking any mood altering drugs, hormones, ssris, benzodiazepines? -- ␦glen? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to u

Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism Again

2017-01-26 Thread glen
> Actually, I think the author, Richard Willmsen, got it right, Frank. I am > seeing more of these predictions of a meltdown ... the following linked > /CounterPunch /article says he is going to have a lot of help in the process

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