Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/4/24 2:23 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > And before people claim I can always help out the devs. I tried this > multiple times in the past, but it's always a massive uphill struggle to > get anywhere. I update ebuilds, ask for review and comments to improve > what I do. Then nothing happens.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 >> >> How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is >> 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? > It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/4/24 3:37 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > >> On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >>> Those steps do not just work. >>> The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do >>> the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. >>> I have those not set, but it

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: Those steps do not just work. The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. Certainly it did NOT say that. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:35 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm thinking one good HBA will handle the current set of drives and give > decent speed at that in the Fractal case when the new mobo ends up > there. The Fractal can handle 20 that I can count easily. There's 4 in > the bottom, 11 in a tall stack

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 > > How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is > 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... I can't vouch for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >>> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. That is slower but at least it works. >>> The LSI cards will work just as

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/4/24 11:40 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. Certainly it did NOT say that.

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/4/24 9:17 AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Dale, in a previous post you shared a rather long list of packages which > you classified not to be Python 3.12 ready. This list contained "sys- > apps/portage"! This just can't be! From my 1060 installed packages ex- > actly ONE package required

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Dale
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Dale, > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: > >> ... >> I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a >> little longer would have helped. > Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid > out a three-step approach

Re: [gentoo-user] nproc

2024-06-04 Thread Waldo Lemmer
Hi Jude, I can't answer your question directly because, frankly, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But I'll try my best to clear things up for you. The `nproc` command prints how many processors (CPU cores) are available for applications to use. This is how many emerge or make jobs can run

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:14 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > > > Those steps do not just work. > > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > > I have

Re: [gentoo-user] nproc

2024-06-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
Found out nproc is a command and my machine returns 16 when that command got run. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Jude DaShiell wrote: > How is the number of

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. > > There are also

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

2024-06-04 Thread Joost Roeleveld
Grant, On 6/4/24 12:29 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I don't use FibreChannel myself (can't justify the cost). I hear that. I manage an old EMC for a friend who's still using it as clustered storage for an old VMware install. It started giving us occasional hiccups (corrected memory errors)

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Joost Roeleveld
Rainer, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: ... I read the thread linked to by the OP. I just wonder if waiting a little longer would have helped. Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

2024-06-04 Thread Grant Taylor
Hi Joost, On 6/4/24 12:29 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: I don't use FibreChannel myself (can't justify the cost). I hear that. I manage an old EMC for a friend who's still using it as clustered storage for an old VMware install. It started giving us occasional hiccups (corrected memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:03 AM Dale wrote: > > I wish I could get one that comes with cables > that go from the card to SATA drives as a set. That way I know that > part is right. I'm pretty sure there are only two standards - one for external, and one for internal. Maybe there are different

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Dale, On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 04:36:41 -0500 you wrote: > ... > I read the thread linked to by the OP.  I just wonder if waiting a > little longer would have helped. Did nobody of ye all ever read news item 48, dated 2024-05-09? It laid out a three-step approach which surely caused at least some

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > > >> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. > >> That is slower but at least it works. > > The LSI cards will work just as well in a 1x. That is,

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-04 Thread John Covici
On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 07:33:16 -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote: > > [1 ] > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > > On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 23:19:37 -0400, > > Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > > > > The great program

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: >> You ever seen one of these? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 >> >> Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe >> x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? >> > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: >> I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found >> need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for >> video. > The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the > card

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-04 Thread Ionen Wolkens
On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 23:19:37 -0400, > Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > > > The great program yt-dlp no longer will download from youtube. It > > > complains that name or

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: > > You ever seen one of these? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 > > Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe > x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using a USB cable, and converting

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Joost Roeleveld
--- Original message --- From: Dale To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2024 11:36:41 +0200 Arve Barsnes wrote: On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 08:56, Dale wrote: That is one way

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: Rich, You ever seen one of these?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe x1 slot?  Am I seeing that right?  USB ports are going to wash dishes before long.  LOL Dale :-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found > need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for > video. The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the card should work fine in

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 08:56, Dale wrote: >> That is one way to do it. Thing is, if there are several updates before >> they can use 3.12, then you get to edit those each time. As it is, I'll >> leave it there for a couple weeks. If emerge complains in the meantime, >> I

Re: [gentoo-user] What's probing /dev/sr0?

2024-06-04 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 4 June 2024 06:23:00 BST Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:30:07 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > >> Every few minutes my motorized cupholder kicks its motor... Which means > >> **something** is kicking /dev/sr0 every few minutes checking for > >> media... I need to know

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 08:56, Dale wrote: > That is one way to do it. Thing is, if there are several updates before > they can use 3.12, then you get to edit those each time. As it is, I'll > leave it there for a couple weeks. If emerge complains in the meantime, > I can remove a line or two.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/06/2024 16:34, Dale wrote: The way I did my last two rigs is this.  Find the fastest CPU.  Drop down about 2 models.  That is not the fastest but very close to it but a LOT cheaper.  Then buy a mobo and memory to go with it.  You get a system that is likely close to 90% of the fastest you

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 07:05, Dale wrote: >> I was caught up in the upgrade problem too. Each time I would run >> emerge, I would get more packages that can't use 3.12 yet. This is the >> list if packages I had to add to package.use. >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: >>> When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 >>> >> Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a >> breakout cable that will attach one of those to

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 07:05, Dale wrote: I was caught up in the upgrade problem too. Each time I would run emerge, I would get more packages that can't use 3.12 yet. This is the list if packages I had to add to package.use. ## # Try to remove

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 07:05, Dale wrote: > I was caught up in the upgrade problem too. Each time I would run > emerge, I would get more packages that can't use 3.12 yet. This is the > list if packages I had to add to package.use. > > ## > #

Re: [gentoo-user] SAN multipathing

2024-06-03 Thread Joost Roeleveld
Hi, I'm trying to set up SAN multipathing via dm-multipath for the first time in about a decade. I am seeing the test LUNs (1 x 10 GB and 1 x 100 GB) twice on my relatively recent (<60 days out of date) Gentoo system. But I'm not able to get multipath to see anything. Before I go too

Re: [gentoo-user] What's probing /dev/sr0?

2024-06-03 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:30:07 BST Alan Grimes wrote: Every few minutes my motorized cupholder kicks its motor... Which means **something** is kicking /dev/sr0 every few minutes checking for media... I need to know what it is and how to stop it... =\ Assuming you're not running some media

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-03 Thread Dale
Marco Minutoli wrote: > Hello, > > I have experienced difficulties in upgrading my system as a > consequence of the python 3.12 update. I am aware that there is a > "fervent" discussion on the topic [1], but I decided to keep my > distance from those spicy tones and I hope for a more polite >

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-03 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 6/4/24 12:02 AM, Marco Minutoli wrote: > Hello, > > I have experienced difficulties in upgrading my system as a consequence of > the python 3.12 update. I am aware that there is a "fervent" discussion on > the topic [1], but I decided to keep my distance from those spicy tones and > I hope for

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 08:27:57AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I thought of something on the m.2 thing.  I plan to put my OS on it.  I > usually use tmpfs and compile in memory anyway but do have some set to > use spinning rust. Once I get 128GB installed, I should be able to do > that with all

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 12:38:13AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I'll also max the memory out too.  I'm > unclear on the max memory tho.  One place shows 128GB, hence two 32GB > sticks.  The out of stock Newegg one claims 256GB, which would be nice.  > I'm not sure what to think on memory.  Anyway.  If

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: >> When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 >> > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a > breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: > > When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. Some things to keep in mind when

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote: >> *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD >> announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So >> maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although >> at the >> launch,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: >> I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS >> card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one >> card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold >> hooked

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote: *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although at the launch, both the new boards and cpus are

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: > > I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS > card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one > card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold > hooked to it. > ... >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Dale
byte.size...@simplelogin.com wrote: > > On 03/06/2024 10:12, Dale wrote: >>  From this link: >> >> https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-5-7600x.html >> >> >> Graphics Capabilities >> >> Graphics Model  AMD Radeon™ Graphics >> Graphics Core Count 2 >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: >> Graphics Capabilities >> >> Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics >> Graphics Core Count 2 >> Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz >> >> That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. > The CPU you picked indeed

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread byte . size226
On 03/06/2024 10:12, Dale wrote: From this link: https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-5-7600x.html Graphics Capabilities Graphics Model  AMD Radeon™ Graphics Graphics Core Count 2 Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz Yes, the 7600X will have a built in

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: > > Graphics Capabilities > > Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics > Graphics Core Count 2 > Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz > > That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. The CPU you picked indeed has integrated graphics. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Dale
Alan Grimes wrote: > > Dale wrote: >> The one I'm not sure about is the PCIe one which may break apart to fit >> different connectors.  I seem to recall that goes to a video card on >> systems with those expensive and power hungry video cards.  Since this >> mobo has built in video, is that the

Re: [gentoo-user] What's probing /dev/sr0?

2024-06-03 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:30:07 BST Alan Grimes wrote: > Every few minutes my motorized cupholder kicks its motor... Which means > **something** is kicking /dev/sr0 every few minutes checking for > media... I need to know what it is and how to stop it... =\ Assuming you're not running some media

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Alan Grimes
Dale wrote: The one I'm not sure about is the PCIe one which may break apart to fit different connectors.  I seem to recall that goes to a video card on systems with those expensive and power hungry video cards.  Since this mobo has built in video, is that the right thing? DUDE!!! You are

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-03 Thread John Covici
On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 02:47:44 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote > > > > I put the URL in firefox on Windows which uses the same dns -- it all > > goes through my linux box -- and it worked fine, so it seems > > youtube-dl is not working. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, again, > > <<< SNIP >>> > > Thanks to all who help on this.  I'll be glad when this nightmare is > over.  I've never been this disappointed in picking parts to build a rig > before.  > > Dale > > :-)  :-)  > I thought of something.  I need a power supply.  I can use the the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/06/2024 14:27, Dale wrote: Should I put the portage work directory on a spinning rust drive to save wear and tear on the SSD or have they got to the point now that doesn't matter anymore?  I know all the SSD devices have improved a lot since the first ones came out. The stuff I've seen

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest >> blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a >> separate partition. I figure for the boot stuff, 3GBs would be plenty >> for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-06-02 Thread Waldo Lemmer
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024, 13:28 Nuno Silva wrote: > (Well, one request I have is to please don't top-post in this > list. That's not the common style in this list, and tends to be an > approach mostly from the Microsoft and business worlds.) > Top-posting is the default in Gmail, and there's no

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:11:38 BST Dale wrote: > My plan, given it is a 1TB, use maybe 300GBs of it. Leave the rest > blank. Have the /boot, EFI directory, root and maybe put /var on a > separate partition. I figure for the boot stuff, 3GBs would be plenty > for all combined. Make them large

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Dale
Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Dale. > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 08:27:57 -0500, Dale wrote: > > [ ] > >> Got the manual.  It says 128GB.  That sounds more like what I was >> expecting anyway.  I kinda thought 256GB was a bit much.  That's why I >> picked two 32GB sticks.  128GB is four times

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 9:27 AM Dale wrote: > > I thought of something on the m.2 thing. I plan to put my OS on it. I > usually use tmpfs and compile in memory anyway but do have some set to > use spinning rust. Once I get 128GB installed, I should be able to do > that with all packages anyway

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Dale. On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 08:27:57 -0500, Dale wrote: [ ] > Got the manual.  It says 128GB.  That sounds more like what I was > expecting anyway.  I kinda thought 256GB was a bit much.  That's why I > picked two 32GB sticks.  128GB is four times what I have now so it > should be

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 2 June 2024 14:27:57 BST Dale wrote: > >> Got the manual. It says 128GB. That sounds more like what I was >> expecting anyway. I kinda thought 256GB was a bit much. > I bought my machine from Armari a few years ago; they supply high-performance > workstations

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 2 June 2024 14:27:57 BST Dale wrote: > Got the manual. It says 128GB. That sounds more like what I was > expecting anyway. I kinda thought 256GB was a bit much. I bought my machine from Armari a few years ago; they supply high-performance workstations to City finance and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-06-02 Thread Dale
Nuno Silva wrote: > Some people may prefer one method of communication to the other, and one > thing that has perhaps been lacking in Gentoo is more people reading the > mailing list, which might allow finding out about (and acting on) some > issues sooner. I agree with this.  I subscribe to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 02/06/2024 06:38, Dale wrote: >> My plan is the CPU above for now.  Later, I will upgrade to the Ryzen 9 >> 7900X to get even more speed.  I'll also max the memory out too.  I'm >> unclear on the max memory tho.  One place shows 128GB, hence two 32GB >> sticks. > > Go on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-06-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 2 June 2024 01:54:08 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-01, Wol wrote: > > I've got news for you, there are quite a few weirdos on the list, > > Hey! I resemble that remark. Hey! Are you pinching my joke? -- Regards, Peter. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/06/2024 06:38, Dale wrote: My plan is the CPU above for now.  Later, I will upgrade to the Ryzen 9 7900X to get even more speed.  I'll also max the memory out too.  I'm unclear on the max memory tho.  One place shows 128GB, hence two 32GB sticks. Go on the manufacturer's website, find

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-02 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:06:59 P.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 23:19:37 -0400, > > Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > > > The great program yt-dlp no longer will download from youtube. It > > > complains that name or

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 02:06:59AM -0400, John Covici wrote > > I put the URL in firefox on Windows which uses the same dns -- it all > goes through my linux box -- and it worked fine, so it seems > youtube-dl is not working. I had weird problems downloading data from a province of Ontario

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-02 Thread John Covici
On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 23:19:37 -0400, Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > > The great program yt-dlp no longer will download from youtube. It > > complains that name or service not known. It works fine downloading > > from rumble. Anyone know

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-01 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Sunday, June 2, 2024 1:34:20 A.M. AEST John Covici wrote: > The great program yt-dlp no longer will download from youtube. It > complains that name or service not known. It works fine downloading > from rumble. Anyone know what is happening? I assume youtube did > some update that broke

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-01 Thread Grant Taylor
On 6/1/24 11:14, Alarig Le Lay wrote: No, “name or service not known” means that your resolver doesn’t work Not necessarily. It can also mean that the name being looked up is not valid. I'd think that a network sniffer would provide that answer in short order for traditional DNS. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-06-01 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 1:16 PM Wol > wrote: > > I've got news for you, there are quite a few weirdos on the list, but it > > adds spice! > > > Ah! I feel so at home! > > Thanks Wol! +1.  I've been told I was weird all my life.  I kinda

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-06-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 1:16 PM Wol wrote: > I've got news for you, there are quite a few weirdos on the list, but it > adds spice! > Ah! I feel so at home! Thanks Wol!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-06-01 Thread Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
Hello, This was not a "moderator" like answer, more an advice: Since I started to translate some pages in French for the Wiki of Gentoo, I've already asked why IRC and not somewhere else, as **the mailing-list** dedicated to it. I do not link the oblivion that is an IRC channel, to be honest.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-06-01 Thread Wol
On 31/05/2024 16:26, Nuno Silva wrote: On 2024-05-31, Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT wrote: Is this not possible to go, as I said, on IRC or use the discussion page ? This is not really the place for this topic, IMHO. Why not? This is a Gentoo mailing list. Do you mean it should instead be

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting started with a web server

2024-06-01 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 1 June 2024 16:01:26 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > It seems to be time again to see if I can set up a local web server*. I want > to build a site for myself, and one way is to work it up on my own machine, > then transfer it to a hosting service when it's "ready". > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting started with a web server

2024-06-01 Thread George Kettleborough
Hi Peter, If you only want to build a static site (ie. just HTML, CSS, JS etc; no server-side scripting) then you don't need to install and configure something like Apache to test it out. You could just open the files you're working on straight from the disk. Or if you want to test with server

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-01 Thread Alarig Le Lay
On Sat 01 Jun 2024 12:09:40 GMT, John Covici wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Alarig Le Lay > Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 11:53 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube > > On Sat 01

RE: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-01 Thread John Covici
-Original Message- From: Alarig Le Lay Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 11:53 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube On Sat 01 Jun 2024 11:34:20 GMT, John Covici wrote: > The great program yt-dlp no longer will download f

Re: [gentoo-user] yt-dlp no longer downloads from youtube

2024-06-01 Thread Alarig Le Lay
On Sat 01 Jun 2024 11:34:20 GMT, John Covici wrote: > The great program yt-dlp no longer will download from youtube. It > complains that name or service not known. It works fine downloading > from rumble. Anyone know what is happening? I assume youtube did > some update that broke something.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-05-31 Thread Jude DaShiell
It went on irc. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Fri, 31 May 2024, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2024-05-31, Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT wrote: > > > Is this not possible to go, as I

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-05-31 Thread Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
Is this not possible to go, as I said, on IRC or use the discussion page ? This is not really the place for this topic, IMHO. Regards, GASPARD DE RENEFORT Kévin Le 31/05/2024 à 15:27, Jude DaShiell a écrit : The problem with the handbook is /dev/sda1 is supposed to be named /boot and the

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-05-31 Thread Jude DaShiell
The problem with the handbook is /dev/sda1 is supposed to be named /boot and the necessary fdisk instructions to do this are missing from that section of the handbook. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing /dev/sda1 for gentoo install x86 handbook

2024-05-31 Thread Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
Hello, such things are better to talk on the #gentoo-w...@libera.chat, or in the discussion page of the page having something missing. Thanks for reporting anything problematic tho, but your problem isn't elaborate enough as you written it IMHO to understand exactly what you are talking

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about installkernel configuration

2024-05-30 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 30 May 2024 16:48:15 BST Jacques Montier wrote: > Hello All, > > It's not an issue but a question : > I'm working with a 10 years old mobo. > I have two systemd Gentoo. > One (some years old) on ssd internal disk installed with dos partition and > grub mbr > The other one (newly

Re: [gentoo-user] verifying stage3

2024-05-30 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 30 May 2024 09:43:32 BST Jude DaShiell wrote: > I got: > sha256sum --check > stage3-amd64-desktop-openrc-20240526T163557Z.tar.xz.sha256 > stage3-amd64-desktop-openrc-20240526T163557Z.tar.xz: OK > sha256sum: WARNING: 12 lines are improperly formatted > Is the warning significant?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-29 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 28 May 2024 19:02:09 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-05-28, Dale wrote: > >> Grant Edwards wrote: > >>> On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > > Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names > > for the machine I'm on at the moment: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] hardware disk description

2024-05-28 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 29 May 2024 00:10:07 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 28/05/2024 20:51, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > My machine has protected mbr with gpt partitions on it. Are those kind of > > partitions hybrid? > > This is completely standard nowadays. I think the "protected MBR" just > points to the

Re: [gentoo-user] hardware disk description

2024-05-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/05/2024 20:51, Jude DaShiell wrote: My machine has protected mbr with gpt partitions on it. Are those kind of partitions hybrid? This is completely standard nowadays. I think the "protected MBR" just points to the first four GPT partitions. This is basically down to the fact that

Re: [gentoo-user] hardware disk description

2024-05-28 Thread karl
Jude DaShiell: > My machine has protected mbr with gpt partitions on it. Are those kind of > partitions hybrid? Why not check for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table You can use theese to find out what you have: file -s /dev/sda fdisk -l /dev/sda Regards, /Karl

Re: [gentoo-user] Terminal emulator to replace Konsole

2024-05-28 Thread Dale
Ionen Wolkens wrote: > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 03:01:44PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I looked in x11-terms and there is a few options, I think.  I tried >> looking at home pages and such but none of them mention a feature like >> this but it may have it.  I was wondering if anyone knows of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-28 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-28, Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >>> > Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names > for the machine I'm on at the moment: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-28 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > >>> Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names >>> for the machine I'm on at the moment: >>> >>> --/etc/udev/rules.d/70-my-persistent-net.rules--- >>> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add",

Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-05-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 28 May 2024 15:52:35 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:58:04 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> On Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:30:54 BST Wol wrote: > >>> Any chance you can document those steps? > >> > >> Yes, I ought to do that. I just need to

Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-05-28 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:58:04 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:30:54 BST Wol wrote: >>> Any chance you can document those steps? >> Yes, I ought to do that. I just need to remember... ;-) > I think there's only one thing for me to say: whatever

Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-05-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:58:04 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:30:54 BST Wol wrote: > > Any chance you can document those steps? > > Yes, I ought to do that. I just need to remember... ;-) I think there's only one thing for me to say: whatever web site I used said

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