On 15/02/16 14:15, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 2016-02-15 13:42, Lester Caine wrote:
>
>> So Bath is also a
>> city despite being below some arbitrary population limit.
>>
> Bath has around 100k inhabitants, not exactly a hamlet... But it doesn't
> have a city counci
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rom edubase when a schools reference changes :) But I am
playing with historic stuff to see if I can create a history for each
school from the edubase data. Very much a back burner job, but amazing
what you can conjure up using a relational database ...
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.. as you say it's more local
choice on any final distinction. I think Facebook may have solved the
problem ... EVERYTHING is a city! Even if getting the city into the
right county/country is something that still has to be fixed :(
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or on other documents. This is a bit of a mess across the board :(
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On 12/02/16 19:34, John Aldridge wrote:
> On 12-Feb-16 17:31, Lester Caine wrote:
>> I adopted the standard of official_name=xxx where the edubase listing
>> differs from the signage or other local 'format'...
>
> I'm not objecting, but why did you feel you wanted to clo
seems wrong
Heart of Worcestershire College
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5902498
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38737994
And some missing bits ;)
The whole spread of sites has just one edubase ID ...
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what percentage actually have
edubase or similar ID tags as well. That coverage needs more work yet.
I've hacked the current name check script and can identify those schools
that exist but without an ID.
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ll? Since these do
not have to include that in their titles ... The tricky bit being the
16-19 age range campuses. Of cause once the URN is included one can look
up the secondary data anyway.
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On 24/01/16 13:09, Lester Caine wrote:
> That just leave 4 more objects to check :)
OK most of the 'red dot' items were out of area, but I've tidied them up
anyway as they are still Worcestershire.
Pershore College has been sort of solved by following the current
signage ;) It has 'P
' but that is not in the
WR area, having a B postcode I think.
That just leave 4 more objects to check :)
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be
useful ;)
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chools project. But I am
now at the point where adding the wikipedia tag, but this opens a can of
worms since https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Schools_in_Worcester
only lists some schools and some of them are now closed ... so where
does one stop cross project?
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flags schools that
are missing a edubase reference. While all the schools are now listed, I
know some do not have a full tag set including street, postcode. edubase
and website.
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ttle slow downloading, but has all the data and seems to
be updated regularly even if it still has old website url's and other
content ;)
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filename / URL?
I just download with Firefox, opened in LibreOffice and filtered the
Worcs/WR* entries to give me a working list ;) Nice to not have to jump
through hoops to get a list.
If you get stuck trying again, shout and I'll drop you a welsh filtered
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On 18/01/16 13:13, Dave F. wrote:
> On 18/01/2016 13:00, Lester Caine wrote:
>> On 17/01/16 20:35, Harry Wood wrote:
>>> I made a new tracker tool for this school mapping project:
>>>
>>> http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/diffreader/schools
>> Can I m
k/edubase/ can you
add the website to the school so we have all the contact details for
later developments. Since it's on the same page as the primary details
it's just a couple more clicks to copy.
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be listed and
can be crossed off. Getting the schools to provide the fine detail would
then be the follow up.
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data page, it is not the right
answer especially since there are separate figures for the two villages
which one would EXPECT wikidata to document?
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l or another, and certainly
the ones I have personal knowledge off do not have parking areas
segregated to one or other building so there is not a 'shaded area' at all?
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uld be taken as official, and many of the
missing schools simply have a large discrepancy in names, but which any
human would understand as matching ;)
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On 17/01/16 18:17, Edward Betts wrote:
> Wikipedia has an article about a village called Brailes, but OSM has nodes for
> two villages, Upper Brailes and Lower Brailes. The matcher solves this problem
> by picking the civil parish.
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ing automatically tagged ALSO need updating to an
alternative object. Lets get one tidy finished before then looking for
other? Adding all of these just adds to the work tidying the basic objects.
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many cases the wrong area is tagged )
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age around the UK for parishes is sporadic?
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ail that could be added and if students get the bug,
then the surrounding area is a little bare as well.
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y data which would simplify accessing data such as
website, so I am planning to duplicate that entry from the edubase site
for website and phone.
Just as a little funny. My wife's school had 119 pupils ... 60 boys and
60 girls :)
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have your github user name. Others
> (anyone) will be able to make changes via pull requests anyway.
OK Guys time for me to bow out ...
Seems lots of decisions have already been made and they do not work with
my methods or cover my own views of what a 'British' group should
support ...
ich I was hoping to make live to produce a UK
style service, but currently only the OSRM layer is working fully. I'm
at the pink square stage on the tile server ... and need to pay the
bills so don't have time to 'start again' with a new framework.
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On 17/12/15 22:02, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> Email sign up form:
> Minutes:
Do we really have no option but bloody Google ... ANYTHING would be
better than that and it will certainly put me off if that is adopted
going forward!
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some people think should be added directly to the
database and the Starbucks finder is a particularly good example!
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', but of cause the 'holland'
search needs to be global ;)
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to gauge if you don't know what the
user expects to see?
(An the pigging change of motorway colour really does not help a new
user in the UK! One can not readily distinguish the motorways around
Birmingham)
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may split again. I presume
that both already have their own address entries anyway?
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is still the base for the green trunk routes?
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the new road network needs to be correct.
If I want data on 'route' like A37 then the starting point is the ref
tag and traffic direction rather than a messed up list of elements.
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cle if the smartcode goes down to
individual postal addresses, or just the building?
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ou can convert that TO a
w3w title. If the mapping system is only accurate to 10mts your android
drone has a selection of targets. I've just looked up my own address in
the UK and depending on which map overlay I select I got four different
answers, some the next door addresses.
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an be identified. As has already been
pointed out on the discussions on these droids, it only works when there
is a single story dwelling. Add 100 flats with one front door on a busy
street ... but personally I think there will be more losses due to
droids being intercepted in flight? :)
>
en) third-party solution ?
And of cause why rely on some optical barcode marking when a wireless
based tag would be better. May need to change the battery every few
years, but it only need to be in receive mode until a drone is in range
... with a button to 'sync' location with base ...
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e existing copy and downloading a clean copy,
or is there something to fix the update stream?
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ake slip road onto Axx'
and that in my book is where the _link information has an important
element but could also be a second tag. However like
'highway=residential', 'highway=trunk_link' is a shorthand that works at
many levels ... but should the link be tagged for the road it provides
the
ne? As with the current discussion, key
elements need a few ground rules, but that does not prevent additional
data being added via extra tags. The rule about not tagging for renderer
or router works both ways since one may need to add information that
can't easily be accessed
ents are treated with the same level
of importance, then the addition of other restrictions will make more
sense, rather than promoting a 20MPH 'B' road over a 60MPH
'unclassified' ... which the current rendering is doing?
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e simple answer is secondary, tertiary and unclassified roads in many
areas of the world have the same importance, so rendering them
drastically differently is a mistake!
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deprecated warnings on maxzoom it's not
actually producing tiles ...
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devices the problem is worse than on high resolution devices.
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ssified_and_unclassified_roads
next :)
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ently in rendering ( or routing
rules ) adds an incorrect importance to one over the other. In the
absence of any other evidence I'm planning to simply re-tag the problem
unclassified routes as tertiary for now, but I can make a case for all
being secondary so they get rendered with the same
ighway,secondary,ref,302}, null).
(7)
However it does not seem to worry osrm.
Now to work out why tilemill has stopped working :(
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something that looks good for a few limited examples fails in the wider
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o need
to pull in a new version of software, but the current style change is
taking all my spare time at the moment.
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>> > On 01/11/15 20:42, Patrick Niklaus wrote:
>>> >> The data on the dem
On 02/11/15 12:49, Marc Gemis wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk
> <mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> Now that I've got an easy toggle between the new style and the French
> tile server a few more backwards steps bec
looking to
extend that into the icon map for my own rendering. While the styling
for OSM is quite complicated it can easily be broken down into
manageable elements such as road colours, or icon library, so switching
elements is not particularly difficult once one has a working local
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urther loss of contrast! That is why I've been looking to a
style that restores a more usable map for the visually impaired as
demonstrated by the sample I provided earlier.
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On 02/11/15 10:02, Paul Sladen wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2015, Lester Caine wrote:
>> On 01/11/15 07:22, Ed Loach wrote:
>>>> It very simple, the colours should match the road sign colours: Blue,
>>> Green, Red!
>>> Red?
>> all the legislation,
&
ions. It is one of the
areas that I have actually adjusted in my own clone of the style and is
a little different on the French version.
p.s. - Anybody still got signs with red backgrounds in their area?
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'farm' areas still display
incorrectly. That one is a tagging problem in the data!
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but I've not been able to get back to that since, and the current fire
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mall or retail premise, and once again, the amenity provided is
the job function. The estate agent is next to the chemist's shop in the
same building, so tag the building 'retail', and each unit with is
amenity(s)?
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halloween but the purple colouring for roads?
Anyway ... got to get out to site to fix another bloody sick M$ machine :(
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re bandwidth to do that. I bought the
machine for this job some months back but as yet it is still only
partially working ... now if others are working to the same end can we
not pool that resource?
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WS a selectable rendering style? But that is
yet another tangent and ring fenced solution :(
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on the sat nav in the car should match display wise what one has
reviewed on the desktop prior to planning the route ... so in addition
to stabilising the broadband service, the off-line services need to be
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On 30/10/15 21:01, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> * Major rewrite of road and railway rendering, as part of Mateusz
> Konieczny's Google Summer of Code project. See
BUGGER I still haven’t got the backup system working and now all my UK
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is the only source that has much of the
detail that I need to show, and retaining blue ad green road links is
essential in my book ... and one of the reasons I started even
developing with OSM.
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eneral agreement for the
change.
But I have no doubt other sources will become live if the change goes
ahead with their own style of map key ...
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ave black boxes over the station area.
I know the turntable area was cleared to put the electrification gear
in, but the British Rail line books should clarify if there were other
changes. It looks like extra tracks have been added through the platform
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On 25/09/15 23:22, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 25/09/15 22:48, Graham Jones wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure there have been no changes to the tracks or major
>> building structures at station platform level - I didn't see any
>> evidence of heavy work like that on my travels anyway.
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ed to get a
proper tile cache working.
But what I do have working shows in house rendering is not at all
difficult. Just need to nail all the cludges in a simple to roll package
of tools?
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in county and
the like, but pub is equally relevant ...
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nned state. History is an inherent part of the current
'namespace'!
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e' in that data ... rather than Hoddesdon.
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ipedia is far from complete so
one finds erratic quality of information. Additionally wikidata is still
at an early stage and does not have the bulk of the information already
in wikipedia, so someone has to go through and change all the
information blocks around or add missing ones where needed :(
n area and identify which of multiple zones it is
actually in. Adding this data to the places does not fill that hole :(
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y of a location on OSM, so having it appear as both
a town and village would be confusing on searches.
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ata software to use the new
coding format.
The various boundaries are also available complete with updates since 2012
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ne-idea-be-back-on-track.html
is a current item on my own pet 'abandoned railway' ... and the
preserved railway is fast approaching from he south ...
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ur own enclave is probably one unnamed
'hamlet', and I think there are potentially another couple, but I think
what is missing is the outline of what ONS classify as the 'built up
area' of Broadway ...
And the boundaries of the parishes in Gloucestershire are missing as
well ..
00 although at the end of the day the local
comunity my well call themselves a town or a village based on choice
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On 14/09/15 00:41, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 14/09/15 00:16, Lester Caine wrote:
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>> The OSM wiki defines 'hamlet' as less than 100-200 people, but village
>> supposedly starts at 1000 up to 1 with the proviso that it depends
>> on the country. Ideally the two
, but these still only go down to the ward/parish level. There is
still no ID for the town/village :(
And Scotland and Northern Ireland are separate data sets ...
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use the 'Subedge' second half and that incudes
what started the fun ... the map showing the 'Weston Subedge Halt' on
the old railway ;)
I'm asking both parish clerks just what the current legal position is,
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On 11/09/15 01:27, Warin wrote:
> I'll be putting a block on any more messages with the subject containing
> Fw:important
The buggers are using several subjects, multiple probably hacked relay
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data that should be recorded.
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documented in the
change log, so all we are talking about is semantics and allowing a view
of the data that can be rendered using the existing tools.
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ain valid in the other. The current
OHM is simply a scratch pad to store isolated historic material. It does
not have any of the history currently being created daily in the main
database. 'It get deleted' is the very history that someone has spent a
lot of time previously documenting.
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ing to the current working books
http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/10563.aspx
Anything else is simply incorrect, so these changes should be reverted
back to the correct data?
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ced that there should be
some more history prior to that date since the 2012 data already
contains the planed improvements to the junction.
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ession of it and rail routes
are one of those documented exceptions.
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al of record.
And in the UK you just buy a copy of the Electoral Register ...
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stcode is added here so that searches can be done properly. Just
because a post has not been put in the ground to identify a location,
the location still exists if properly documented.
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e stuff to correct
the mistakes. I have tried simply hiding the data which works around
here, but another area nearer London is obviously using a different tag
to 'farmland' ... just not identified yet what else to ignore.
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nclude the buildings within the
area in the relation? Which is why I've stopped at just drawing boundary
types so far. Actually the property boundaries on our road include the
area of grass outside the front fence, but not the path which is another
detail not yet added ...
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objects so
even the fact that a page has an icon does not mean you will see it on
the map you are looking at.
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to dust
control. 'dirt' tends to imply a dusty surface, something one would not
expect with a better managed soil surface.
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