Re: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100
I was looking into this Cisco/non-Cisco switch issue just recently and was told that the 802.1q standard stipulates only 1 x STP, and yet with Cisco's 802.1q implementation you can have per vlan STP (not quite matching the 802.1q standard). Perhaps someone in the group can clear this issue up for us. Steve "Piatnitchi Cristian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Rico Take care ! I had many problems with set up a STP, trunking and 802.1q between Cisco 5000 and Bay Networks. I gave up because finally I used just 1 link between these devices. I was surprised to see that FastEtherChannel on Cisco means trunking on Bays'. This is what somebody from CISCO staff suggested to me. -Original Message- From: Washington Rico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100 Dear all, I wonder if anyone knows if it is possible to trunk a 3com Superstack II 1100 with a Cisco 5000 serious switch. 3com switch is the client and recieving vlan info from Cisco5000? If it is possible which Trunking Protocal should be used? I appreciate the help... Rico _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Security Written
So am I. Henry Chan CCNP (Security) -Original Message- From: Arthur Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 05:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Security Written I took the beta 8 weeks ago, but no response yet (you might get a better response if you didn't use a reply to a long CCDA thread). Good luck. I wonder what the lab will be like? Arthur Stewart CCNP(Security) "Tim O'Brien" wrote in message 006f01c07a84$63142430$0ff644ab@tiobrien... It has been over 2 months now and I have not seen any results for the CCIE Security written beta (351-018). Has anyone else seen anything? Tim _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: access-list ?
I also think it will permit all because in access-list
we use wild card bits and 0.0.0.0 simply means
255.255.255.255 which literally means permit all
hope it helps
suaveguru
--- Jaeheon Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Tony
I think it will permit only default routes.
Regards
Jaeheon
On 9 Jan 2001 19:38:00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
("Tony van Ree")
wrote:
Hi,
I don't think it does much.
I think it will permit all.
Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia
On Tuesday, January 09, 2001 at 02:52:09 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
What does this access list do?
neighbor ?.?.?.? route-map ? in
route-map ?-in permit 10
match ip address 5
access-list 5 permit 0.0.0.0
Does it mean permit nothing, or does it mean
permit default route? Or
am I way off? I think it's there to block
everything.
Thank You,
Andre
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Re: Bandwidth constraints for VoIP
IOS 12.1.2T has generally been the recommended one, but I believe 12.1.5T is now out. Steve "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think the best IOS version to use for VoIP came up in an earlier thread, so you might want to search the archives or perhaps people can remind us. Cisco made quite a few updates and bug fixes in the QoS for voice about a year ago, but I can't recall the IOS version number. Help anyone? Priscilla At 09:12 AM 1/10/01, Ishtiaque Mahbub wrote: All, Thank you so much for contributing. (Oh my God, Priscilla has given an answer to my question!! this must be my big lucky day!! have taken a print out of the reply and kept it in my personal file, i will show it to my grand child someday!!) One last question though, and that is, if IOS 12.x is good enough to implement VoIP, or do I need to ask for additional features? Pardon for not adding the question in the first place (I am bit sluggish, as you may have noticed, in my thinking process!) Regards Ishtiaque From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Ishtiaque Mahbub" [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bandwidth constraints for VoIP Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:45:59 -0800 Each CODEC has different capabilities for compressing voice, so you'll have to know which CODEC you want to use first. The compressed voice is then put into an IP frame, so you will need to take into account the bandwidth used by headers of the following sizes: 20-byte IP header 8-byte UDP header 12-byte Real-Time Protocol (RTP) header On point-to-point links those headers can be compressed down to just a few bytes. Even the IP header can be compressed if it's a point to point link and IP addressing isn't needed for forwarding to the next hop. If you use Voice-Activity Detection (which uses no bandwidth during silence) you can further reduce bandwidth requirements. Finally, you need to take into account the data-link header, PPP, Frame Relay, whatever. According to a chart that I picked up at Networkers a couple years ago, here are a few examples: G.729 CODEC on PPP without compressed IP/UDP/RTP and without VAD uses 26.4Kbps. G.729 CODEC on PPP with compressed IP/UDP/RTP and without VAD uses 11.2 Kbps. G.729 CODEC on PPP with compressed IP/UDP/RTP and with VAD uses 5.6 Kbps. G.729 CODEC on Frame Relay without compressed IP/UDP/RTP and without VAD uses 25.6Kbps. G.729 CODEC on Frame Relay with compressed IP/UDP/RTP and without VAD uses 10.4Kbps. G.729 CODEC on Frame Relay with compressed IP/UDP/RTP and with VAD uses 5.2Kbps. I would copy and paste the whole chart but I only have hard copy. You should be able to find such a chart somewhere though. Priscilla At 11:47 AM 1/9/01, Ishtiaque Mahbub wrote: Hello Group! A very happy new year to you all! I was wondering if any one could advise what is the minimum Bandwidth required for Voice Over IP installation on Cisco Routers (Router Series will be 2600). Is 64kbps is too steep for 4 simultaneous voice operations? Suggestion, advices welcome. Regards Ishtiaque _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF--ccnp question
charles paver wrote: Hi. Accd. to the BSCN text, OSPF maintains three tables (r. table, link state, and neighbor). Is there a way to view the link state or neighbor table, for that matter? show ip ospf database show ip ospf neighbor Sasa _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IP routing]
Dear Nazri, You can try this = ip route z.z.z.z mask gateway ip route w.w.w.w mask gateway and deny access to z from x and w from y using access-list to serial interface. If you can provide with exact ip add of serial int and ethernet int, it w= ould have been better. Try this because I am not very sure. Ganesh.Ch CCNA Hyderabad India "md. nazri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, i need some help on this, 2 routers connected over frame relay, named RouterA and RouterB. RouterA ethernet has 2 ip address, X(x,.x.x.x) as primary and Y(y.y.y.y) as secon= dary. RouterB ethernet also has 2 ip address, W(w.w.w.w) and Z(z.z.z.z). X sup= posed to communicate only with W and Y only talk to Z. There is no way that X = talk to Z or Y to W. How do i achieve this by static routing or any other ways= =2E. PLS help rgds nazri telekom malaysia _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Certs
Can anyone tell me how do the Cisco certifications match up to degrees obtained from a college? I have been told that getting your MCSE is like getting a two year degree or having two years networking experience. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: access-list ?
Hi, all
Well, this is from cisco site:
To specify a large number of individual addresses more easily, you can
omit the wildcard if it is all zeros. Thus, the following two
configuration commands are identical in effect:
access-list 2 permit 36.48.0.3
access-list 2 permit 36.48.0.3 0.0.0.0
That is,
access-list 2 permit 0.0.0.0 --- "permit only defaults"
access-list 3 permit 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 --- "permit all"
You can check it by yourself at:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_r/iprprt1/1rdip.htm#xtocid124253
watch word wrap
Hope this helps,
Regards
Jaeheon
On 10 Jan 2001 05:10:03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (suaveguru)
wrote:
I also think it will permit all because in access-list
we use wild card bits and 0.0.0.0 simply means
255.255.255.255 which literally means permit all
hope it helps
suaveguru
--- Jaeheon Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Tony
I think it will permit only default routes.
Regards
Jaeheon
On 9 Jan 2001 19:38:00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
("Tony van Ree")
wrote:
Hi,
I don't think it does much.
I think it will permit all.
Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia
On Tuesday, January 09, 2001 at 02:52:09 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
What does this access list do?
neighbor ?.?.?.? route-map ? in
route-map ?-in permit 10
match ip address 5
access-list 5 permit 0.0.0.0
Does it mean permit nothing, or does it mean
permit default route? Or
am I way off? I think it's there to block
everything.
Thank You,
Andre
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Re: [Cisco Certs]
Dear all, I do have the same question, can any one help us in this regard Ganesh.ch CCNA Hyderbad India "Ken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me how do the Cisco certifications match up to degrees obtained from a college? I have been told that getting your MCSE is like= getting a two year degree or having two years networking experience. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cisco Certs]
Dear all, I do have the same question Ganesh CCNA Hyderabad India "Ken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me how do the Cisco certifications match up to degrees obtained from a college? I have been told that getting your MCSE is like= getting a two year degree or having two years networking experience. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cisco Certs]
Ganesh I will say, it use to be a good thing to have MCSE, when this certification first came out. There was not enough materials available in the market and it was not easy to pass the test comparing to these days which means if u manage to pass the exams, you got good skills or experience, etc. In my opinion, having a degree from a good university is still a good thing, especially now days you will find some colleges teach you to MCP or CCNA level. But end of the day it is all to do with how much experience you have and impressing people in the interview Ganesh Chintalapati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 20010110100131.14307.qmail@nwcst293">news:20010110100131.14307.qmail@nwcst293... Dear all, I do have the same question, can any one help us in this regard Ganesh.ch CCNA Hyderbad India "Ken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me how do the Cisco certifications match up to degrees obtained from a college? I have been told that getting your MCSE is like= getting a two year degree or having two years networking experience. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bcran
I just need an answer to a question I did on colt and I am a bit confused after checking it up I wonder if anyone can help. "IN A REMOTE ACCESS NETWORK, WHERE SHOULD YOU CONFIGURE AAA TO AUTHENTICATE INCOMING TRAFFIC TO THE CENTRAL SITE". I wonder if anyone can give me an explanations. Thanks Tai _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need your opinion
Hi all, Need your opinion here. Currently I'm (quite paper) CCNP. I don't have home lab nor any OSPF and BGP real world experience. I have limited experience in frame relay, RIP, EIGRP. Now if I take all CCIE related courses (OSPF BGP workshop, ECP1, CCIE preparation training from horizon-mts, Cvoice, CATM, etc, take one week CCIE prep lab), and spare 3 times lab exams, what do you think of my chance to become CCIE ? Thank's for any input. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Warning!!
I'm really bothered by posts from anonymous or unverifiable email addresses that slam companies, countries, authors, immigration policies, and rumors about planned Cisco attacks. When I make a public post, there's no question who is making it. Is this Berkowitz just being crotchety, or does this mean anything to anyone's career? I think the latter. In the IETF, for example, there are people who have a lifelong reputation of trying to Do The Right Thing. Paul Vixie and Vint Cerf, for example, are people whose reputations are such that they can make comments about a competitor and have their statement accepted as true to the best of their knowledge. Perhaps not at entry level, where the lower-level certifications are most important, but as one moves to higher levels, reputation is important. I am NOT saying not to make claims about things that irritate you. I am saying to do it, when you do, in a manner that helps your reputation and that of the industry as a whole. Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical) list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as hotmail. Here's my reasoning. If you don't use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via an employer, academic, or library account. An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different mailboxes for personal and business matters. Even if you need to get to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external POP3 connectivity. If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of email clients (including browsers), I'd really be uncomfortable with them configuring my routers. Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses "email slang" such as "u" rather than "you," etc., is not improving their image in the industry. And image can't be ignored completely. -- "What Problem are you trying to solve?" ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director, CertificationZone.com Senior Mgr., IP Protocols Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only) but Cisco stockholder! "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco muscles
No, and I don't have square hair either. ;-) Priscilla Square or not, you have more of it than I do. At 09:11 PM 1/9/01, Ibrahim wrote: If we see on Ciscopress book cover, there are always man with big muscles strong. I'm working on CCIE .. and muscles :-) Anyone here have CCIE plus big muscles ? Ibam ccnp+voice2.0 Now, the REAL strength challenge was earthquake-mounting a 7000, which didn't have decent rack ears like the 7500. The usual practice took three strong individuals, one of whom wasn't terribly attached to his or her fingers. Take a 19" flat shelf and mount it in the rack, after drilling four holes that correspond the the positions of the rubber feet on the bottom of the 7000, and attaching a strap clamp to the shelf. Pick up the 7000 and unscrew the rubber feet, to find the screws underneath. With one person holding either side of the 7000, have the third crazy person slide a hand underneath the router and guide its bottom screws into the holes in the shelf. Fasten nuts on the screws from underneath the shelf. Tighten the strap clamp. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New router LSA created after full adjacency?
Jaeheon Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] provided an excellent answer, Hi, Scott. To monitor ospf adjancency or something like that, we usually have two routers connected to each other via Ethernet interfaces in a normal lab environment. In this case, before adjacency is built, old router LSA lists the Ethenet interface's network as Link Type 3 - "connection to a stub network" because no neighbor's found, but after adjacency built, new router LSA lists it as Link Type 2 - "connection to a transit network". You can check this with "show ip ospf database router" before and after ospf adjacency built. http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2328.txtpp.207-208 Hope this helps Another way of looking at this is that type 1 and type 2 LSAs are trees. The branches of the type 1 are networks. It's not that the advertising router of the type 1 changes, it's the variable length leaf information. On 10 Jan 2001 01:08:17 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (scott) wrote: Dear OSPF gurus: I am probably missing a very basic point here as I am somewhat new to OSPF. I have been debugging ospf adjacency, ospf events, ospf flood plus some others. After routers become adjacent, the flooding process starts. What I have noticed is that right after routers become adjacent, they create a new router LSA and add one to the sequence number. (The DR also sends out a network LSA.) My question is this: Does each router create this new instance of the LSA to trigger the flooding process itself or is there some other reason why a "new" LSA is created? *Why not just send out the original LSA to begin the flooding process?* Doesn't sending out a new LSA cause routers to recalculate their routing tables when, in fact, they just calculated them moments ago when they became adjacent using the original LSA? I understand the need for the flooding process. I don't understand the need for a new LSA. Thanks in advance, Scott Chapin _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "What Problem are you trying to solve?" ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director, CertificationZone.com Senior Mgr., IP Protocols Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only) but Cisco stockholder! "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need your opinion
From: Henry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Henry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need your opinion Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:28:47 -0800 (PST) Hi all, Need your opinion here. Currently I'm (quite paper) CCNP. I don't have home lab nor any OSPF and BGP real world experience. I have limited experience in frame relay, RIP, EIGRP. Now if I take all CCIE related courses (OSPF BGP workshop, ECP1, CCIE preparation training from horizon-mts, Cvoice, CATM, etc, take one week CCIE prep lab), and spare 3 times lab exams, what do you think of my chance to become CCIE ? You'll probably fly the written part, then get shot down in flames during the lab. The CCIE is about real-life experience, and you can't do the lab without it. Thank's for any input. Anytime Rob./ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
seeking Cisco position in Switzerland
Does anyone know any good recruiters / agencies or web resources for Cisco positions in Switzerland ? James Barber ___ http://www.webmail.co.za the South-African free email service WIN R10 000 by registering for free online options for EasyMoney in http://www.easyinfo.co.za/easymoney/wmindex.asp - Easy Does it - Now!!! _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AS 2511RJ software problem
From: Olden Pieterse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Olden Pieterse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AS 2511RJ software problem Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:31:47 +0200 Hi there Does the ordinary 2511 and the as2511rj use the same software ? Yes My ordinary 2511 is running fine on ordinary 25XX ip plus software , but I have a customer that needs to get his as2511-rj box up running . On Cisco's site at the software center , which software do I choose to download ? Either, they're the same thing [1]. Thanks in advance ! Cheers Olden Rob./ [1] Well, they do the same job, anyway. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: x25 translation
From: Olden Pieterse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Olden Pieterse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: x25 translation Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:24:58 +0200 Hi there I have a customer that needs to do x25 to tcp translation on a 2511 . What images will perform this function ? I honestly thought it was the std. IP version. pref a 11.2 image , but the more the merrier ! 11.2 does it. We have tried ip only and enterprise and it didnt work . Have a look at: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios112/xpe.htm Thanks a stack ! Cheers Olden Rob./ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disappointed with CCNP!! + extras
OK... no these are just my personal opinions and they are not aimed at anyone directly and they may not apply to everyone... Getting certified is great. BUT experience is better. If you run out get a degree, a few certification and expect to be greeted as a insert field of expertise here god.. think again. I see about 50 resumes a week from people who have done just that. Most of those who make it through the interview process turn down the offers I make them because they were under the impression that a college degree guaranteed them $40K year and the certifications added another $7K - $10K. My company stays fairly competitive with the market and we start people of at around $20 - $30K. Sometime we go higher but it is usually due to the cost-of-living where the position is rather than the prospects credentials. On the other hand, if someone with no degree and no certifications but with 5 years experience as a field engineer for some large network sent his resume in, I would offer that person $35K - $60K. If they had certifications but no degree I could add $7K to $30K (depending on certification). A technology (CIS/MIS) degree is almost meaningless to a technical career. (They may still apply to management / marketing/ etc) Here is why. The technical level of this industry doubles every 18 to 24 months (and is accelerating). This means that 90% of all technology is replaced within 6 years of it premiering on the market. The "spin up" time for new technology is 12 months (3 to 6 of it being pre-release). Most (75%+) of a technology's implementation is done between 6 and 24 months after it's release. Now to the college it takes about a year to develop a course, another year to have it approved and worked into a degree program. Then only the students starting that program are affected by the change as course requirements for a degree are set when you start a program. So 2 years to develop the course and insert it into the program and then 4 years for the students to graduate with the degree equals 6 years. By which time 90% of the technology has been replaced and the industry has moved 3 to 4 leaps ahead of it. +++ A Note on experience vs. certification... I recently sat down with my co-workers and we discussed what changes we would like to see in different certification programs. The over all deciding vote was for experience to be tested by the certification. Similar to the lab for the CCIE. Now we realized this was a little hard to do, but one young bright and complete uncertified woman made the following suggestion... Have a minimum amount of time between certifications, and toughen the tests. For the Cisco program she roughly drew out the following Obtaining a CCNA / CCDA marks your start of the program. There is no time limit between the CCNA CCDA. You must wait 6 months before being allowed to start testing for your CCNP / CCDP. There is a 3 month wait after obtaining the CCNP or CCDP before you can test for the other one. Then you must wait 12 months after obtaining your first CC_P before being allowed to test for the CCIE. This guarantees you have been working towards your CC_P for atleast a year (hopefully working in the industry during that time), and towards your CCIE for atleast 2 years. I personally like the idea. I hate "paper MCSEs" and I think we are beginning to see "paper CCNPs" which just devalues the certification. ++ Back to degrees... I have noticed that several colleges are finally recognizing certifications tests. Regents College (www.regents.edu) accepts most Microsoft stuff. I was just wondering if anyone had heard if/when Cisco was going to join one of these programs. (Yes, I know what I said earlier. But there is nothing wrong with having a degree, they just don't hold as much weight in this field as they might in others. Besides it is a personal goal.) Eric Thompson _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco 1603 router and traffic-shape
Hello, I got an 1603 router thats connected to a 2Mbit leased line. I want to use the traffic-shape command on the eth0 and the serial interface to make sure the traffic doesn't get above fe. 512 kb. I tested it with 2 2500 routers and it worked perfectly Question is ?!? Can the 1603 router handle it ? Or will it die because of heavy cpu and memory use ??? It's a 1603 router with 12 meg (8 meg onboard and 4 meg on simm) memory and 8 meg flashcard. kind regards, JT _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco muscles
Well, I'd better be contented with my 3 2501 routers in my home lab
until I get muscular and hairy enough to handle those monsters what is
called "7000"
On 10 Jan 2001 07:50:55 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Howard C. Berkowitz")
wrote:
No, and I don't have square hair either. ;-)
Priscilla
Square or not, you have more of it than I do.
At 09:11 PM 1/9/01, Ibrahim wrote:
If we see on Ciscopress book cover, there are always man with big muscles
strong.
I'm working on CCIE .. and muscles :-) Anyone here have CCIE plus big
muscles ?
Ibam
ccnp+voice2.0
Now, the REAL strength challenge was earthquake-mounting a 7000,
which didn't have decent rack ears like the 7500. The usual practice
took three strong individuals, one of whom wasn't terribly attached
to his or her fingers.
Take a 19" flat shelf and mount it in the rack, after drilling four
holes that correspond the the positions of the rubber feet on the
bottom of the 7000, and attaching a strap clamp to the shelf.
Pick up the 7000 and unscrew the rubber feet, to find the screws underneath.
With one person holding either side of the 7000, have the third crazy
person slide a hand underneath the router and guide its bottom screws
into the holes in the shelf.
Fasten nuts on the screws from underneath the shelf. Tighten the strap clamp.
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Passed BCMSN - Is a adaptive test?
Hi All I have passed BCMSN with a score of 932. Really thanks to the group for answering some of my questions. I am wondering is the BCMSN exam an adaptive one? E.g., i have a qns and i think i got that one wrong and i have several other same type of questions follow straight one another! This happens twice!!! Anyway, thr exam is quite okie except there are some really hard questions I have Boson and COLT practice questions and use the following books: The Official Course book and "Cisco LAN Switching" by Kennedy Clark. Regards _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New router LSA created after full adjacency?
Dear OSPF gurus: I am probably missing a very basic point here as I am somewhat new to OSPF. I have been debugging ospf adjacency, ospf events, ospf flood plus some others. After routers become adjacent, the flooding process starts. What I have noticed is that right after routers become adjacent, they create a new router LSA and add one to the sequence number. (The DR also sends out a network LSA.) My question is this: Does each router create this new instance of the LSA to trigger the flooding process itself or is there some other reason why a "new" LSA is created? *Why not just send out the original LSA to begin the flooding process?* Doesn't sending out a new LSA cause routers to recalculate their routing tables when, in fact, they just calculated them moments ago when they became adjacent using the original LSA? I understand the need for the flooding process. I don't understand the need for a new LSA. Thanks in advance, Scott Chapin _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can IPX traffic be forwarded thru PIX?
Firewalls in general do not support the passing of IPX at layer 3. In the past I have set up GRE Tunnelling to hop the ipx packet over IP which worked fine. Downside is higher header overhead due to the encapsulation of IPX over IP. I also remeber having a problem whereby I had to switch of fast-switching i.e "no ip route-cache" as the novell etype 8137 disappeared after the initial negotiation. HTH, Phil. --- lawrence sculark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the pix does not past ipx then you need to go to netware ip...not ipx tunneling nut netware ip it will pass all of the updates for you through ip onlylook at novells's site on netware ip configurationbest regards...lawrence From: "sougata maitra" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "sougata maitra" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can IPX traffic be forwarded thru PIX? Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 17:39:47 - X-Originating-IP: [151.200.108.30] Received: from [63.104.50.75] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBC249B590048400431923F68324B081816; Tue Jan 09 09:55:05 2001 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost)by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15584;Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:54:13 -0500 Received: by groupstudy.com (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:47:57 -0500 Received: (from listserver@localhost)by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14179GroupStudy Mailer; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:47:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f135.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.135])by groupstudy.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14160GroupStudy Mailer; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:47:55 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:39:47 -0800 Received: from 151.200.108.30 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 09 Jan 2001 17:39:47 GMT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 09 09:55:58 2001 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2001 17:39:47.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[2915F630:01C07A63] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk we are in the process of testing a PIX firewall 515R and all seems to work fine in the IP realm. we have netware servers (version 4x)running IPX still both on the inside and the outside which need to commmunicate. the documentation for PIX doesn't even use the word IPX !! any ideas? one thought is to make the netware servers run IP ..but how to make them exchange (SAPs) or whatever it is under IP? warm regards _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changing IP address on Ethernet
Hello colleagues, I have come across a problem on my LAN which I can't seem to figure out: I need more host addresses on my LAN, so I changed the subnet mask on my Ethernet IP address to a 22-bit subnet mask (was 10.226.192.254/24, is now 10.226.192.254/22). The problem I am having now is that I cannot ping the Ethernet interface anymore (even from the same router). Do I have to change the subnet mask for the default gateway on the hosts attached to the LAN first before I can ping the interface ? It seems to me that I should be able to ping my Ethernet interface, regardless of what IP address is configured, as long as the status is up/up. Thanks for your input in advance. Regards, Georg Pauwen _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Fw: computer virus
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Fwd: Fw: computer virus
From: "Owhe Mukoro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Owhe Mukoro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:@w204.web2010.com; Subject: Fw: computer virus Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:52:57 -0800 - Original Message - From: "Owhe Mukoro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: Fwd: computer virus From: Omeni Okundu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], enyi chiemeka abajue [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ronke Abuah [EMAIL PROTECTED], Olujide Adeniran [EMAIL PROTECTED], olufemi akinde [EMAIL PROTECTED], funsho akinluyi [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shaibu Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED], Amir [EMAIL PROTECTED], Obiefuma Aniemena [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rohit Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED], folake bankole [EMAIL PROTECTED], bona [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Love Notes Christian" Chizoba Nwadukwe Bookshop [EMAIL PROTECTED], borseh [EMAIL PROTECTED], Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED], gboyega dada [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michelle ELANGUE [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ovie Emudianughe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cynthia Enahoro [EMAIL PROTECTED], Allan Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeje Ibukun [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Idiodemise [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jide [EMAIL PROTECTED], KUBI MOMOH [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Mshelia [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Buchanan Mshelia [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nishant [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ronald Nottidge [EMAIL PROTECTED], lauretta o [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tola Odukomaiya [EMAIL PROTECTED], Funke Odutayo [EMAIL PROTECTED], BABATUNDE OKENIYI [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dandison Okunbo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dandison Okunbo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tolu Okusanya [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gbenga Olalandu [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ayo Olamijulo [EMAIL PROTECTED], "D.Ayo OLAMIJULO" [EMAIL PROTECTED], bisi olonisakin [EMAIL PROTECTED], OGUNNOWON OLUSEGUN [EMAIL PROTECTED], Emamoke Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ewoma Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kome Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kome Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Esther Otu [EMAIL PROTECTED], owhe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adeboye Rotimi [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nalin Sidahao [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter "Tjernström" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: computer virus Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:30:52 -0800 (PST) --- Abosede Oladunni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:19:57 -0800 (PST) From: Abosede Oladunni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: computer virus To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by Microsoft ( www.microsoft.com ) and by McAfee (www.mcafee.com ) as the most destructive ever! This virus was discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no vaccine has yet been developed. This virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, where vital information for its functioning are stored. This virus acts in the following manner: It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with the title "A Virtual Card for You". As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened, the computer freezes so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in just a few hours this virus caused panic in New York, according to news broadcast by CNN (www.cnn.com ). This alert was received by an employee of Microsoft itself. So don't open any mails with subject "A Virtual Card for You". As soon as you get the mail, delete it. Please pass on this mail to all your friends. = IN THIS TROUBLE TIMES OF FEAR AND DESPERATION, WHERE CAN PEOPLE FIND THE PEACE WE ALL NEED? WHEN BROKEN DREAMS AND BROKEN PROMISES ARE SCATTERD EVERYWHERE AND BROKEN HEARTS STILL CONTINUE TO BLEED. JESUS IS THE ANSWER. THERE IS SO MUCH HE CAN DO, WITH YOUR HEART AND WITH YOUR MOUTH JUST GIVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS THE LORD. PEACE IS NOT THE ABSENCE OF STORM BUT CALMNESS INSPITE OF STORM. MAKE A DECISION TODAY. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ = "Give me a place to stand and lever long enough and I will move the world." ~~Archimedes, 220 BC. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: Coil pinnaccle header
I haven't seen that error yet, but I can telly you this. The COIL chip is sits on the 6500 Fast Ethernet Blades. Each Coil chip is responsible for up to 12 FE ports. They are mostly responsible for TX RX buffering, CRC checks, and queing The PINNACLE chip is found on the Gig E and Fast E line cards. Each Pinnacle chip handles either 4 Fiber XCVR ports or 4 Coil chips. It can handle CRC checks, Queueing, putting packets on the switch bus, and so on. Don't know if that helps you any. Either way, if it is a group of 12 ports or a group of 48, it is still that entire blade that would have to be replaced to get them all working. If you have a maintenance contract I would turn it in to them. Hi all, I have 4 6509 cats that are giving me problems. For particular modules on the switch, user will not be able to login to network. I move them to different module on same switch all works fine. I look at switch, port status all is fine. I check logs on switch and I see for the ports giving me problem it reports "Coil Pinnacle Header Checksum Error". What the hell is this? I searched Cisco's site and find nothing. Has anyone seen this? Please help. I am about the thought out the damn Module. Thanks Rob Rob Mears III, NNCSS, NNCDS, MCSE, CNE, CCNA, A+ Technical Mercenary _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Changing IP address on Ethernet]
Dear Hans, You need to change the subnet mask of the hosts to 255.255.252.0 and even= the mask of the router should also have the same subnet mask. Now, you are not able to ping the interface from your host pc because you= are in a different network. Try changing the subnet mask of pcs and router ethernet int to 255.255.25= 2.0 your problem will be resolved. Pls let me know whether this worked or not Ganesh CCNA Hyderbad India "Hans Stout" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello colleagues, I have come across a problem on my LAN which I can't seem to figure out: I need more host addresses on my LAN, so I changed the subnet mask on my = Ethernet IP address to a 22-bit subnet mask (was 10.226.192.254/24, is no= w = 10.226.192.254/22). The problem I am having now is that I cannot ping the= = Ethernet interface anymore (even from the same router). Do I have to change the subnet mask for the default gateway on the hosts = attached to the LAN first before I can ping the interface ? It seems to m= e = that I should be able to ping my Ethernet interface, regardless of what I= P = address is configured, as long as the status is up/up. Thanks for your input in advance. Regards, Georg Pauwen _= Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.= _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Using Register IP Address on your Private network]
Hi, As far as I know, we use registered addresses only if we are directly connected to internet. Else there should be no problem to use un registered ip addresses for you= r private network. Pls anyone let me know if I am wrong Ganesh CCNA Hyderabad India [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question here? Why would anyone use register addresses on the= ir = private network, while you can use UN-register addresses like 10.X.X.X ? = Do = you really need to burn register addresses on a private network? = I would like to hear anyone opinion on this subject Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Fw: computer virus
That's most likely a hoax: http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/hoaxes/virtualcard.html http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/hoaxes/virtualcard.html Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp http://www.oledrews.com/ccnp NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Babashola A Madariola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Fwd: Fw: computer virus From: "Owhe Mukoro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Owhe Mukoro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:@w204.web2010.com; Subject: Fw: computer virus Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:52:57 -0800 - Original Message - From: "Owhe Mukoro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: Fwd: computer virus From: Omeni Okundu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], enyi chiemeka abajue [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ronke Abuah [EMAIL PROTECTED], Olujide Adeniran [EMAIL PROTECTED], olufemi akinde [EMAIL PROTECTED], funsho akinluyi [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shaibu Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED], Amir [EMAIL PROTECTED], Obiefuma Aniemena [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rohit Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED], folake bankole [EMAIL PROTECTED], bona [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Love Notes Christian" Chizoba Nwadukwe Bookshop [EMAIL PROTECTED], borseh [EMAIL PROTECTED], Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED], gboyega dada [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michelle ELANGUE [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ovie Emudianughe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cynthia Enahoro [EMAIL PROTECTED], Allan Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeje Ibukun [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Idiodemise [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jide [EMAIL PROTECTED], KUBI MOMOH [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Mshelia [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Buchanan Mshelia [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nishant [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ronald Nottidge [EMAIL PROTECTED], lauretta o [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tola Odukomaiya [EMAIL PROTECTED], Funke Odutayo [EMAIL PROTECTED], BABATUNDE OKENIYI [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dandison Okunbo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dandison Okunbo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tolu Okusanya [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gbenga Olalandu [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ayo Olamijulo [EMAIL PROTECTED], "D.Ayo OLAMIJULO" [EMAIL PROTECTED], bisi olonisakin [EMAIL PROTECTED], OGUNNOWON OLUSEGUN [EMAIL PROTECTED], Emamoke Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ewoma Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kome Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kome Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Esther Otu [EMAIL PROTECTED], owhe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adeboye Rotimi [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nalin Sidahao [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter "Tjernström" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: computer virus Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:30:52 -0800 (PST) --- Abosede Oladunni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:19:57 -0800 (PST) From: Abosede Oladunni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: computer virus To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by Microsoft ( www.microsoft.com ) and by McAfee (www.mcafee.com ) as the most destructive ever! This virus was discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no vaccine has yet been developed. This virus simply
No Subject
You know, this is something I personally have never even though about...at least from the aspect of your e-mail address. But it makes absolute sense. Because being new myself, I have already leaned there are some people you just don't open and then there are some that you learn things from. And since Howard is someone who falls into that latter catagory, I am changing which mail service I use for group-study as he is actually someone that I read on a consistant basis. And one thing he is very definately right on about, is the fact that newbies like myself are in awe of some of you guys. I took everyone's word in a literal sense when I first started reading this group and then I realized I needed to weed out the strays in order NOT to be misdirected. I also considered dropping this group, but decided to stay because of posts like Howard's. He is someone people listen to, or should I say someone I listen to. Chuck and Pricilla also fall in that same list. There are a few others, but just naming these few are why I will continue to remain here and only occasionally posting a note. The bottom line is, they actually teach. I reason things by saying the other's will get tired and eventually leave or grow up. I would rather read Howard's "crotchety" replies anyday to some other's. Just my opinion... Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is really me and yes, I pay money for this) I\'m really bothered by posts from anonymous or unverifiable email addresses that slam companies, countries, authors, immigration policies, and rumors about planned Cisco attacks. When I make a public post, there\'s no question who is making it. Is this Berkowitz just being crotchety, or does this mean anything to anyone\'s career? I think the latter. In the IETF, for example, there are people who have a lifelong reputation of trying to Do The Right Thing. Paul Vixie and Vint Cerf, for example, are people whose reputations are such that they can make comments about a competitor and have their statement accepted as true to the best of their knowledge. Perhaps not at entry level, where the lower-level certifications are most important, but as one moves to higher levels, reputation is important. I am NOT saying not to make claims about things that irritate you. I am saying to do it, when you do, in a manner that helps your reputation and that of the industry as a whole. Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical) list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as hotmail. Here\'s my reasoning. If you don\'t use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via an employer, academic, or library account. An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different mailboxes for personal and business matters. Even if you need to get to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external POP3 connectivity. If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of email clients (including browsers), I\'d really be uncomfortable with them configuring my routers. Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses \"email slang\" such as \"u\" rather than \"you,\" etc., is not improving their image in the industry. And image can\'t be ignored completely. -- \"What Problem are you trying to solve?\" ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director, CertificationZone.com Senior Mgr., IP Protocols Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only) but Cisco stockholder! \"retired\" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 -- _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Protocol numbers
try the following links: http://www.ieee.org this one is to be the best for you will not only find all TCP or UDP ports but also can get details on RFC's. Or try www.protocols.com --Original Message-- From: "Shane Stockman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 9, 2001 9:16:50 PM GMT Subject: Protocol numbers I see in the BSCN courseware they mention something about protocol number for example igrp=9 and RIP has a UDP port of 520. Does anyone know where I could get a list of the numbers for protocols. I have searched Cisco.com but could not find. Thanks _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jorge Rodriguez /CCNA Network Analyst RS Networks Inc 1112 Boylston Street Suite 222 Boston, MA 02115 1-781-614-1294 1-617-541-4197 Evenings http://www.netwire.n3.net/ http://www.learncisco.n3.net/ iWon.com http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disappointed with CCNP!! + extras
It is unfortunate that there are people that skim by these exams just for the sake of certification. But it is also important to remember people that are trying to get into the field. I am not saying just because you have certification X means you should make X amount of dollars, or expect job X. I have heard many horror stories of companies hiring MCSE certified people whom could not even format a disk. But for many people, such as myself it was a place to start. Lets be realistic here, nobody was born with the knowledge and everyone had to learn it at some point. The damage to certifications was quite evident when I completed my MCSE 1 1/2 years ago, at the time I was doing Desktop support with some server work in a large network. I was not even expecting to get a high paying job, just looking for a place to increase my skills and it was next to impossible. Once I took MCSE off my resume I had better luck finding a job, just with the 1 year experi. It is disappointing to someone like myself whom is in the middle. I have been working with Cisco equipment now for 2 years, 1 year in depth. So I do have some experience with it. Most available jobs I have seen thus far are entry level(I would be bored stiff) or Senior Level(I am not ready for yet). I just recently completed my CCNP + Security certifications. I do not by any means feel that I am a Cisco god, but I am much better off for going through the program. I have learned a great deal in the last year while completing the CCNP. I think lost in all of the arguments over certification is the most important thing of all. That if you do it right, you actually learn a great deal and I am sure that was what was the initial intent of all certifications. Sorry for the Rant, -Eric Gunn _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco 2524 and 1900 Switch
Just finish studying for CCNA and have a Cisco 2524 and Cisco 1900 Switch for $950. Only 1 year old. Here are the spec's a.. Ethernet LAN interface with attachment unit interface (AUI) and 10BaseT connections b.. Two high-speed synchronous serial WAN port interface slots c.. One ISDN BRI interface slot d.. One low-speed asynchronous WAN port e.. One console port f.. Will include 1 56/64k csu/dsu The Cisco Catalyst 1900 series with 24 ports. It is 24 - 10baseT ports and 2 100baseT ports. This item comes complete with docs. It is in great condition contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Fw: computer virus
This is a HOAX. Unfortunately HOAXes like these are almost as bad as real viruses and they spread manually almost as fast as the automatic real viruses. We received this same email in the office Tuesday and a quick look at McAfee web site proved this to be a HOAX. We were talking to Symatec support on a separate issue and they are working on their answer to the HOAX as well. It is on their web site today. Please take a minute and check a couple of web sites to see if this is REAL or a HOAX before spreading to the world. We use Norton - www.sarc.com - drop down to the area titled encyclopedia and select Virus Hoaxes - key in a key word for the virus you are looking for and you are there. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/virtual.card.hoax.html David Toalson 816-701-4142 -- From: Babashola A Madariola[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Babashola A Madariola Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Fw: computer virus From: "Owhe Mukoro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Owhe Mukoro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:@w204.web2010.com; Subject: Fw: computer virus Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:52:57 -0800 - Original Message - From: "Owhe Mukoro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: Fwd: computer virus From: Omeni Okundu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], enyi chiemeka abajue [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ronke Abuah [EMAIL PROTECTED], Olujide Adeniran [EMAIL PROTECTED], olufemi akinde [EMAIL PROTECTED], funsho akinluyi [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shaibu Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED], Amir [EMAIL PROTECTED], Obiefuma Aniemena [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rohit Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED], folake bankole [EMAIL PROTECTED], bona [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Love Notes Christian" Chizoba Nwadukwe Bookshop [EMAIL PROTECTED], borseh [EMAIL PROTECTED], Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED], gboyega dada [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michelle ELANGUE [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ovie Emudianughe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cynthia Enahoro [EMAIL PROTECTED], Allan Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeje Ibukun [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Idiodemise [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jide [EMAIL PROTECTED], KUBI MOMOH [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Mshelia [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Buchanan Mshelia [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nishant [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ronald Nottidge [EMAIL PROTECTED], lauretta o [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tola Odukomaiya [EMAIL PROTECTED], Funke Odutayo [EMAIL PROTECTED], BABATUNDE OKENIYI [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dandison Okunbo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dandison Okunbo [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tolu Okusanya [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gbenga Olalandu [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ayo Olamijulo [EMAIL PROTECTED], "D.Ayo OLAMIJULO" [EMAIL PROTECTED], bisi olonisakin [EMAIL PROTECTED], OGUNNOWON OLUSEGUN [EMAIL PROTECTED], Emamoke Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ewoma Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kome Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kome Oteri [EMAIL PROTECTED], Esther Otu [EMAIL PROTECTED], owhe [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adeboye Rotimi [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nalin Sidahao [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter "Tjernström" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: computer virus Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:30:52 -0800 (PST) --- Abosede Oladunni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:19:57 -0800 (PST) From: Abosede Oladunni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: computer virus To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by Microsoft ( www.microsoft.com ) and by McAfee (www.mcafee.com ) as the most destructive ever! This virus was discovered yesterday afternoon by McAfee and no vaccine has yet been developed. This virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard disk, where vital information for its functioning are stored. This virus acts in the following manner: It sends itself automatically to all contacts on your list with the title "A Virtual Card for You". As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened, the computer freezes so that the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the reset button are pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. Yesterday in just a few hours this virus caused panic in New York, according to news broadcast by CNN (www.cnn.com ). This alert was received by an employee of Microsoft itself. So don't open any mails with subject "A Virtual Card for You". As soon as you get the mail, delete it. Please pass on
RE: Warning
You know, this is something I personally have never even though about...at least from the aspect of your e-mail address. But it makes absolute sense. Because being new myself, I have already leaned there are some people you just don\'t open and then there are some that you learn things from. And since Howard is someone who falls into that latter catagory, I am changing which mail service I use for group-study as he is actually someone that I read on a consistant basis. And one thing he is very definately right on about, is the fact that newbies like myself are in awe of some of you guys. I took everyone\'s word in a literal sense when I first started reading this group and then I realized I needed to weed out the strays in order NOT to be misdirected. I also considered dropping this group, but decided to stay because of posts like Howard\'s. He is someone people listen to, or should I say someone I listen to. Chuck and Pricilla also fall in that same list. There are a few others, but just naming these few are why I will continue to remain here and only occasionally posting a note. The bottom line is, they actually teach. I reason things by saying the other\'s will get tired and eventually leave or grow up. I would rather read Howard\'s \"crotchety\" replies anyday to some other\'s. Just my opinion... Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is really me and yes, I pay money for this) I\\\'m really bothered by posts from anonymous or unverifiable email addresses that slam companies, countries, authors, immigration policies, and rumors about planned Cisco attacks. When I make a public post, there\\\'s no question who is making it. Is this Berkowitz just being crotchety, or does this mean anything to anyone\\\'s career? I think the latter. In the IETF, for example, there are people who have a lifelong reputation of trying to Do The Right Thing. Paul Vixie and Vint Cerf, for example, are people whose reputations are such that they can make comments about a competitor and have their statement accepted as true to the best of their knowledge. Perhaps not at entry level, where the lower-level certifications are most important, but as one moves to higher levels, reputation is important. I am NOT saying not to make claims about things that irritate you. I am saying to do it, when you do, in a manner that helps your reputation and that of the industry as a whole. Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical) list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as hotmail. Here\\\'s my reasoning. If you don\\\'t use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via an employer, academic, or library account. An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different mailboxes for personal and business matters. Even if you need to get to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external POP3 connectivity. If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of email clients (including browsers), I\\\'d really be uncomfortable with them configuring my routers. Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses \\\"email slang\\\" such as \\\"u\\\" rather than \\\"you,\\\" etc., is not improving their image in the industry. And image can\\\'t be ignored completely. -- \\\"What Problem are you trying to solve?\\\" ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director, CertificationZone.com Senior Mgr., IP Protocols Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only) but Cisco stockholder! \\\"retired\\\" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 -- -- Have a good day!!! Jennifer Cribbs _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Using Register IP Address on your Private network]
Well, you could do either actually. With an unconnected network you could use private addresses (unregistered) or you could use registered addresses (in fact you could use someone elses registered addresses but I wouldn't recommend it). With a connected network you could also use either private or registered, the difference would be that if you use private addresses you would have to have NAT (network address translation) running on your border router which will convert your private addresses to public registered ones. At 07:18 PM 1/10/01 +0530, you wrote: Hi, As far as I know, we use registered addresses only if we are directly connected to internet. Else there should be no problem to use un registered ip addresses for you= r private network. Pls anyone let me know if I am wrong Ganesh CCNA Hyderabad India [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question here? Why would anyone use register addresses on the= ir = private network, while you can use UN-register addresses like 10.X.X.X ? = Do = you really need to burn register addresses on a private network? = I would like to hear anyone opinion on this subject Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE:
I'm glad someone's in the same boat as me. There are probably lots of other's, but they just don't say anything. Being quiet has never been one of my strong points. Jennifer Cribbs "Denis A. Baldwin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Good post! I'm sorta kinda newbie to Cisco myself. I've been doing Network Administration for several years, but never really dealt with Cisco. I'm glad we're in the same boat! Denis Denis A. Baldwin A+/MCP/I-Net+ Network Administrator - CAE, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Cribbs Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: You know, this is something I personally have never even though about...at least from the aspect of your e-mail address. But it makes absolute sense. Because being new myself, I have already leaned there are some people you just don't open and then there are some that you learn things from. And since Howard is someone who falls into that latter catagory, I am changing which mail service I use for group-study as he is actually someone that I read on a consistant basis. And one thing he is very definately right on about, is the fact that newbies like myself are in awe of some of you guys. I took everyone's word in a literal sense when I first started reading this group and then I realized I needed to weed out the strays in order NOT to be misdirected. I also considered dropping this group, but decided to stay because of posts like Howard's. He is someone people listen to, or should I say someone I listen to. Chuck and Pricilla also fall in that same list. There are a few others, but just naming these few are why I will continue to remain here and only occasionally posting a note. The bottom line is, they actually teach. I reason things by saying the other's will get tired and eventually leave or grow up. I would rather read Howard's "crotchety" replies anyday to some other's. Just my opinion... Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is really me and yes, I pay money for this) I\'m really bothered by posts from anonymous or unverifiable email addresses that slam companies, countries, authors, immigration policies, and rumors about planned Cisco attacks. When I make a public post, there\'s no question who is making it. Is this Berkowitz just being crotchety, or does this mean anything to anyone\'s career? I think the latter. In the IETF, for example, there are people who have a lifelong reputation of trying to Do The Right Thing. Paul Vixie and Vint Cerf, for example, are people whose reputations are such that they can make comments about a competitor and have their statement accepted as true to the best of their knowledge. Perhaps not at entry level, where the lower-level certifications are most important, but as one moves to higher levels, reputation is important. I am NOT saying not to make claims about things that irritate you. I am saying to do it, when you do, in a manner that helps your reputation and that of the industry as a whole. Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical) list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as hotmail. Here\'s my reasoning. If you don\'t use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via an employer, academic, or library account. An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different mailboxes for personal and business matters. Even if you need to get to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external POP3 connectivity. If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of email clients (including browsers), I\'d really be uncomfortable with them configuring my routers. Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses \"email slang\" such as \"u\" rather than \"you,\" etc., is not improving their image in the industry. And image can\'t be ignored completely. -- \"What Problem are you trying to solve?\" ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director, CertificationZone.com Senior Mgr., IP Protocols Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only) but Cisco stockholder! \"retired\" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 -- _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Have a good day!!! Jennifer Cribbs _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and
Re: Need your opinion
I have to slightly disagree. CCIE is a test, pure and simple. It actually doesn't relate much at all to real world experience. When would you rush like a maniac to build a superfluously complex network in 12 hours with only limited guidelines and then have it maliciously tampered with while you eat lunch only to come back and fix it in 4 hours? CCIE is all about knowing the intricacies of protocols and Cisco's implementation of them and being able to efficiently configure and troubleshoot them under immense pressure (mostly from not wanting to come back and do it again). What Henry is missing is pure hands on router time. You simply have to practise your configuration routine for the basics over and over until you do it in your sleep. (this is true actually, you'll know your ready when you dream about IOS and have nightmares about routes missing from your table when everything looks right in the config) Rack time at ccbootcamp or similar might fill in the blanks here. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/10/2001 at 11:53 AM Robert Nelson-Cox wrote: From: Henry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Henry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need your opinion Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:28:47 -0800 (PST) Hi all, Need your opinion here. Currently I'm (quite paper) CCNP. I don't have home lab nor any OSPF and BGP real world experience. I have limited experience in frame relay, RIP, EIGRP. Now if I take all CCIE related courses (OSPF BGP workshop, ECP1, CCIE preparation training from horizon-mts, Cvoice, CATM, etc, take one week CCIE prep lab), and spare 3 times lab exams, what do you think of my chance to become CCIE ? You'll probably fly the written part, then get shot down in flames during the lab. The CCIE is about real-life experience, and you can't do the lab without it. Thank's for any input. Anytime Rob./ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
For a service provider, all management workstations have to use real address even though they sit inside the network. Otherwise you have the risk of conflicting ip addresses with the customers. A bad example, Newbridge vivid switch uses 10/8 address for their in-band communciation and assume that users will never use 10/8 to management their switch. The result -- you can't set the ip address of vivid switch to 10/8. Cheers, --- Curtis Call [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well NAT does cause problems for some applications for which you will need real addresses. I can't think of any business applications off the top of my head but being a gamer I've run into this problem when trying to host games. At 08:08 AM 1/10/01 -0500, you wrote: I have a question here? Why would anyone use register addresses on their private network, while you can use UN-register addresses like 10.X.X.X ? Do you really need to burn register addresses on a private network? I would like to hear anyone opinion on this subject Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
Using addressed outside of the 1918 space that are properly registered with a registry can have some benefit to those organization that possess a sufficient quantity of them to suit their needs. The question I would ask would be; "what do you gain by using the 1918 space when you have enough unique address space to suit your current and future needs?" With the explosion of inter connectivity between organizations for business partnerships, mergers/acquisitions etc, having unique address space will ensure that duplicate addressing across an intranet/extranet is never a challenge you have to deal with. Naturally, if your addressing space is slim, you will be forced into unregistered addressing space. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/10/2001 at 8:08 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question here? Why would anyone use register addresses on their private network, while you can use UN-register addresses like 10.X.X.X ? Do you really need to burn register addresses on a private network? I would like to hear anyone opinion on this subject Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Warning!!
You know, this is something I personally have never even though about...at least from the aspect of your e-mail address. But it makes absolute sense. Because being new myself, I have already leaned there are some people you just don\'t open and then there are some that you learn things from. And since Howard is someone who falls into that latter catagory, I am changing which mail service I use for group-study as he is actually someone that I read on a consistant basis. And one thing he is very definately right on about, is the fact that newbies like myself are in awe of some of you guys. I took everyone\'s word in a literal sense when I first started reading this group and then I realized I needed to weed out the strays in order NOT to be misdirected. I also considered dropping this group, but decided to stay because of posts like Howard\'s. He is someone people listen to, or should I say someone I listen to. Chuck and Pricilla also fall in that same list. There are a few others, but just naming these few are why I will continue to remain here and only occasionally posting a note. The bottom line is, they actually teach. I reason things by saying the other\'s will get tired and eventually leave or grow up. I would rather read Howard\'s \"crotchety\" replies anyday to some other\'s. Just my opinion... Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is really me and yes, I pay money for this) I\\\'m really bothered by posts from anonymous or unverifiable email addresses that slam companies, countries, authors, immigration policies, and rumors about planned Cisco attacks. When I make a public post, there\\\'s no question who is making it. Is this Berkowitz just being crotchety, or does this mean anything to anyone\\\'s career? I think the latter. In the IETF, for example, there are people who have a lifelong reputation of trying to Do The Right Thing. Paul Vixie and Vint Cerf, for example, are people whose reputations are such that they can make comments about a competitor and have their statement accepted as true to the best of their knowledge. Perhaps not at entry level, where the lower-level certifications are most important, but as one moves to higher levels, reputation is important. I am NOT saying not to make claims about things that irritate you. I am saying to do it, when you do, in a manner that helps your reputation and that of the industry as a whole. Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical) list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as hotmail. Here\\\'s my reasoning. If you don\\\'t use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via an employer, academic, or library account. An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different mailboxes for personal and business matters. Even if you need to get to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external POP3 connectivity. If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of email clients (including browsers), I\\\'d really be uncomfortable with them configuring my routers. Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses \\\"email slang\\\" such as \\\"u\\\" rather than \\\"you,\\\" etc., is not improving their image in the industry. And image can\\\'t be ignored completely. -- \\\"What Problem are you trying to solve?\\\" ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director, CertificationZone.com Senior Mgr., IP Protocols Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only) but Cisco stockholder! \\\"retired\\\" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 -- -- Have a good day!!! Jennifer Cribbs _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Have a good day!!! Jennifer Cribbs _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
question about ospf link state database synchronization process.
hi,all I have a question about ospf link state database synchronization process. I think,two routes will be 1.exstart in which determine master/slave 2.exstart in which exchange database description packets(DDs).DDs contrain enough information(LSA headers) to find more recent LSAs than in its own link state database.Router then record these LSAs in its own request list. 3.loading in which last DD has received and routers check request list ,send request packets and receive update packets. 4.full in which request list is empty. My question is ,since slave only in response to DD packets it receives from the master.If slave's link state database is bigger than master's,when master sends last DD,set M(ore) to 0,slave also responds with a DD,set M(ore) to 0.Slave's rest link state database is lost and ignored by master.Is than true? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Warning!!
If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of email clients (including browsers), I'd really be uncomfortable with them configuring my routers. Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses "email slang" such as "u" rather than "you," etc., is not improving their image in the industry. And image can't be ignored completely. Please don't place excite.com in your killfile! Our proxy server at work blocks access to my real ISP account (AOL), along with most other mail sites, but it does not block excite mail. That's the only reason I use it. And my boss gets very upset if I use my work email address. Apparently, groupstudy mail has spam characteristics and is placed in a "holding cell" to be later checked and released by my boss. You can understand his irritation with having a few hundred of those emails to wade through. :-) So, if you ever start killfiling those free mail services, please leave a niche in there for my email address. If you do, I promise to buy all three of your books! heh heh Actually, I'm planning on getting them all anyway, so I can't use that as a bribe. Thanks, John, who promises never to use k-cool email slang, even if it's totally rad. ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTP Domain, (again)
As I know, you can have more than one VTP servers in a domain and all switches in the domain can be a server. Changes on any server will automatically propagate to all switches in the domain. No changes allowed on a client. Robert Padjen wrote: Only one switch in a domain can act as the server. All others must be clients. The recommendation to set up the 'biggest' switch as a server is OK, however, it is not really necessary. If it works out, the server should be the switch closest to the center of the VTP domain. This will usually have the best/most connections to the rest of the domain, which will provide the best, central administration point. I would also recommend that you standardize on all lower case or all upper case for the VTP domain name, and that you actively set version two assuming that all devices in the domain support it. I will note that I know quite a few administrators who have just gone to transparent mode and forgo VTP. This seems to be because they've been burned, especially in the 3.x version of CatOS, which did have some bugs. I'd recommend using it, but make sure you follow the rules. --- Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sure you set the Biggest switch as a server,set up your next biggest switch as server also . Set the domain on the Server FIRST. MAKE sure all VLAN info is correct..BEFORE you setup VTP. Don`t do it until everyone has gone home (OVERTIME Tee Hee) make the domain name MEAN somethinghelpfull later . Check all CDP info beforehand (make sure all switches see eachother...if there supposed to). Store all Vlan info before.MAKE sure you know all about the VLAN`s first... IF you have diffrent info about different Vlan`s on different switches make these switches all SERVER`S DON`T PANIC!! HTH steve "AA my god , what `s happened to my LAN" From: Mingzhou Nie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mingzhou Nie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VTP Domain, (again) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:36:05 -0500 You can set all switchs as domain server or elect one core switch as server and others as clien. Just do set vtp domain 'name' command on each switch. You don't to do anything else. The valn name is just like an alias, it doesn't affect the functinality. You can not mannual change the VTP revision unless you reboot a VTP server switch. Hope it helps, Ming Wonkyu Lee wrote: HI All, The place where I'm working at right now has several vlans and trunking. However, from the beginning, no one turned on the VTP Domain. So whenever I put a new switch into the existing LAN, and setting up a vlan and trunking, I have to add them manually. So I'm thinking I'm enabling the VTP domain on all switches. We have 5500, 5002s, 2900XLs, 3500XLs. So here goes my question.. What is the procedure to enable the domain feature ? I know the CLI how to do it, but what should I beware of before I do it? What will happen when the vtp starts to advertising its vlan database to client switches, which have already all the infos stored in manually? Some vlans have their name on one switch(ex, TECH), but the others don't(vlan13) and would it be a problem ? Can i change a VTP revision number manually? Wonkyu Lee _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- | |Mingzhou Nie :|: :|: Customer Support Engineer :|: :|: TAC, RTP, NC .:|:.:|:. Tel/Fax: 919.392.4732 C i s c o S y s t e m s Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure
Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
Curtis Call [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, Well NAT does cause problems for some applications for which you will need real addresses. I can't think of any business applications off the top of my head but being a gamer I've run into this problem when trying to host games. As you very correctly observe, multiplayer games very often break with NAT. The underlying reason tends to be that these games have various home-brewed multicast routing protocols that depend on IP addresses to manage the leaves of the multicast tree. NAT is part of an even broader problem about "Internet transparency." Fundamentally, the Internet was designed in accordance with the "end to end assumption," in which it could be assumed that an IP address was constant from endpoint to endpoint. Other things, such as tunneling, encryption, etc., also create this problem. There are some excellent papers by Brian Carpenter and Eliot Lear, among others, about the broad problem. Unfortunately, I can't remember if these stayed at Internet Draft or went to RFC. There have been discussions at the Internet Activities Board level on these problems. Lots of material at the IETF NAT Working Group: http://www2.ietf.org/html.charters/nat-charter.html, including drafts: ---Traditional IP Network Address Translator (Traditional NAT) ---Protocol Complications with the IP Network Address Translator (NAT) ---NAT Friendly Application Design Guidelines Some of the protocols that often break are things that have IP addresses inside application layer packets (SNMP, FTP, DNS), applications that do redirection (HTTP, FTP, RPC), applications that do reverse DNS lookup, etc. In my new book, WAN Survival Handbook, I go through at least 12 kinds of NAT. Basic NAT, which deals simply with IP packets and TCP/UDP checksums, is inadequate for lots of applications and/or operational support of those applications. Realistic "NAT" tends to need upper layer awareness. At 08:08 AM 1/10/01 -0500, you wrote: I have a question here? Why would anyone use register addresses on their private network, while you can use UN-register addresses like 10.X.X.X ? Do you really need to burn register addresses on a private network? I would like to hear anyone opinion on this subject Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
I'm just curious why people seem to disregard the concept of using NAT and registered addresses together? Just because you have unique addressing doesn't mean you have to announce the prefixes to the Internet. I would highly suggest you use registered space in the same way that you would use 1918 space. In this way, you can still take advantage of NAT for its limited role in security. If security is a key concern, NAT is really not a huge component of the solution. Organizations really need to embrace and enforce policy and support them with electronic means including properly configured and deployed firewalls, IDS systems, logging systems (physical/electronic) etc. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/10/2001 at 8:47 AM Steve Smith wrote: We had a MASSIVE dispute within our company about this. We bought another company and they uses registered IPs on everything down to the workstation. They claimed NAT caused problems with most programs and it was just easier to use registered IPs. We had a meeting with 3 different CCIE's that worked for Cisco and 2 security consulting firms and decided, although it would be nice to use registered IPs, it was more efficient and secure to use private IPs. We then tested the "apps that won't work with NAT" and found 99 percent of them worked fine if the server and firewalls where configed correctly. Don't get me wrong, NAT can and does have some minor downfalls but overall, in my opinion, it's does its job. regards, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Using Register IP Address on your Private network I have a question here? Why would anyone use register addresses on their private network, while you can use UN-register addresses like 10.X.X.X ? Do you really need to burn register addresses on a private network? I would like to hear anyone opinion on this subject Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update
Craig, Firstly, all protocols that allow for redistribution have default metrics to which external routes are identified. For ex... 1 - OSPF assigns the metric of 20 as you pointed out earlier and also identifies external routes using the default External type 2(E2) when no specific type is used. 2 - EIGRP of course stands out above most as the protocol has a totally separate AD of 170 assigned to external routes. Although there are default values given to the BW, DLY,REL,LOAD,and MTU variables the AD of 170 would automatically tag these routes as external to the routing domain. 3 - ISIS being much the same as OSPF it too defaults to the level-2 on any routes redistributed. Of course what must also be noted is that in basic ISIS configuration cisco defaults to L!/L2 so currently in this scenario all the ISIS routers are L1/L2. Before migrating to various level types I was hoping to figure out what that specific router represents. Off to see if this happens in frame relay Also, why do you believe there's no need to summarize..? In large networks this would be "good practice" smaller routing tables which means I should be able to do it here. Trying to tie up this part of my studying on this topic soon... Thoughts.. Nigel.. - Original Message - From: Thounda Craig, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Nigel Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: RE: ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update Look at Jeff Doyle's book "Routing TCP/IP" (p. 730-732) It explains how to redistribute IS-IS into other protocols. Note: You need to specific "level" with the "summary" and "redistribute" command. No need to summarize as the book will probably provide more info. I think this explains your question. -Original Message- From: Nigel Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update Craig, If you look again at the example I do have a metric defined for the ISIS routes being redistributed into the OSPF domain. The problem that I'm looking at is the advertisement of the summarized router into the ISIS domain that shows up in the ASBR as; i su 172.16.0.0/16 [115/30] via 0.0.0.0, Null0 Thoughts Nigel.. - Original Message - From: Thounda Craig, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Nigel Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:39 AM Subject: RE: ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update If I understand your question correctly, you are getting a metric of 20 b/c that's the default for OSPF when the administrator does not assign one during the redistribution process. brgds, Craig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nigel Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:26 AM To: Cisco Group Study; CCIE_Lab Group Study Subject: ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update Hi All, I was working with redistribution between OSPF and IS-IS domains and got = this=20 route in the table and wondered if anyone have seen this and could = explain. I'm=20 using the example from Slattery/Burton pg. 297 (ex. #10). I've replace = the EIGRP=20 process with Isis and in summarizing the ospf routes into isis I get the = following=20 route in the RIB of the router doing the redistribution/summarization... Relevant configs...on the router performing redistribution. ! router ospf 200 log-adjacency-changes summary-address 182.18.0.0 255.255.0.0 redistribute isis metric 300 metric-type 1 subnets network 172.16.253.4 0.0.0.3 area 0 network 172.16.254.0 0.0.0.255 area 0 distribute-list 4 out ! router isis=20 summary-address 172.16.0.0 255.255.0.0 =20 redistribute ospf 200 =20 net 48.0001...0001.00 r2_01#sh ip ro 172.16.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 9 subnets, 5 masks O IA 172.16.2.252/30 [110/139] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 C 172.16.254.0/24 is directly connected, Ethernet0 C 172.16.253.4/30 is directly connected, Loopback0 O 172.16.253.9/32 [110/11] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 O IA 172.16.2.32/27 [110/144] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 O IA 172.16.2.4/30 [110/202] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 i su 172.16.0.0/16 [115/30] via 0.0.0.0, Null0 O IA 172.16.1.0/24 [110/74] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:36, Ethernet0 O IA 172.16.2.0/24 [110/138] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:36, Ethernet0 182.18.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 6 subnets, 2 masks i L1 182.18.4.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.1.1, Serial1 i L1 182.18.5.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.2.2, Serial0 O 182.18.0.0/16 is a summary, 02:21:02, Null0 C 182.18.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1 C 182.18.2.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0 i L1 182.18.3.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.2.2, Serial0 [115/20] via 182.18.1.1, Serial1
Re: BCRAN
I am assuming you mean dialup access to the central site. If i am correct, then you can configure it on your NAS. Now there are two ways i know you can do this. 1) Local based AAA 2) Server based AAA With the local based AAA setup, users are authenticated based on local AAA IOS accounts. Here user accounts are stored in the router, also you are limited to the set of AV pairs that are supported on that IOS. On the other hand with the Server based AAA setup, users are authenticated based on AAA negotiations between the router and the AAA server. In this case, user/group profiles and accounting records can be stored in an internal or externel database. You also have a wider array of AV pairs supported. This is more of an enterprise solution. Common AAA Servers are Tacacs+ and Radius, depending on requirements. I hope this is hopeful. cyrax "Taiwo Adeshugba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 002f01c07ae4$97dab980$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:002f01c07ae4$97dab980$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I just need an answer to a question I did on colt and I am a bit confused after checking it up I wonder if anyone can help. "IN A REMOTE ACCESS NETWORK, WHERE SHOULD YOU CONFIGURE AAA TO AUTHENTICATE INCOMING TRAFFIC TO THE CENTRAL SITE". I wonder if anyone can give me an explanations. Thanks Tai _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
Addressing authorities have the concepts of: Private address space Registered address space that is globally routable Registered address space that is NOT globally routable Admittedly, address space continues to be tight, and it's beginning to be time to start thinking about IPv6 (which has the same concepts). But it's certainly not unheard of to request unique space that will not go into the global table, for environments where it is specifically not planned to connect to the Internet, but where too many organizations are involved to coordinate private addressing. Think, for example, of interbank networks, credit authorization networks, and interagency classified networks. The address registries may put a caveat on an address request that you agree to renumber into provider-assigned space, or do a new justification, if you subsequently connect to the Internet. IPv6 finally has a "killer application." The third generation wireless industry has mandated V6, so we now have a real driver for its use. Don't expect everything to convert overnight -- hey, I still see Bisync that hasn't gone to SNA. Peter van Oene wrote, I'm just curious why people seem to disregard the concept of using NAT and registered addresses together? Just because you have unique addressing doesn't mean you have to announce the prefixes to the Internet. I would highly suggest you use registered space in the same way that you would use 1918 space. In this way, you can still take advantage of NAT for its limited role in security. If security is a key concern, NAT is really not a huge component of the solution. Organizations really need to embrace and enforce policy and support them with electronic means including properly configured and deployed firewalls, IDS systems, logging systems (physical/electronic) etc. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/10/2001 at 8:47 AM Steve Smith wrote: We had a MASSIVE dispute within our company about this. We bought another company and they uses registered IPs on everything down to the workstation. They claimed NAT caused problems with most programs and it was just easier to use registered IPs. We had a meeting with 3 different CCIE's that worked for Cisco and 2 security consulting firms and decided, although it would be nice to use registered IPs, it was more efficient and secure to use private IPs. We then tested the "apps that won't work with NAT" and found 99 percent of them worked fine if the server and firewalls where configed correctly. Don't get me wrong, NAT can and does have some minor downfalls but overall, in my opinion, it's does its job. regards, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Using Register IP Address on your Private network I have a question here? Why would anyone use register addresses on their private network, while you can use UN-register addresses like 10.X.X.X ? Do you really need to burn register addresses on a private network? I would like to hear anyone opinion on this subject Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New router LSA created after full adjacency?
Scott, I'm currently working on OSPF myself and believe your question has already been answered in an earlier post. I have found using a Sniffer very helpful, used in combination with the debug commands you mention. If you add 'debug ip ospf packet' you can start to match the sniffer trace directly with the debug trace. So you can see the stateful world of the Router versus the network frames that have been generated. Word of warning though, and something I have been suspicious of for some time. You cannot take the word of Debug to absolutely i.e as a software tool it is seen by very few people compared to an Analyser and as such I believe contains proportionately more bugs. It also can get a trace out of sequence with what really is happening on the wire, however, if you look out for sequence numbers and checksums you can get it back in step. Regards, Phil. --- scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear OSPF gurus: I am probably missing a very basic point here as I am somewhat new to OSPF. I have been debugging ospf adjacency, ospf events, ospf flood plus some others. After routers become adjacent, the flooding process starts. What I have noticed is that right after routers become adjacent, they create a new router LSA and add one to the sequence number. (The DR also sends out a network LSA.) My question is this: Does each router create this new instance of the LSA to trigger the flooding process itself or is there some other reason why a "new" LSA is created? *Why not just send out the original LSA to begin the flooding process?* Doesn't sending out a new LSA cause routers to recalculate their routing tables when, in fact, they just calculated them moments ago when they became adjacent using the original LSA? I understand the need for the flooding process. I don't understand the need for a new LSA. Thanks in advance, Scott Chapin _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need your opinion
There was a regular contributor to this list (may still be lurking) who went from a PBX tech to CCIE in about a year. I believe that he attended the four CCNP courses. Scored a 96 on the lab. Chad; Do you want to provide any details? -Original Message- From: Henry D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need your opinion Hi all, Need your opinion here. Currently I'm (quite paper) CCNP. I don't have home lab nor any OSPF and BGP real world experience. I have limited experience in frame relay, RIP, EIGRP. Now if I take all CCIE related courses (OSPF BGP workshop, ECP1, CCIE preparation training from horizon-mts, Cvoice, CATM, etc, take one week CCIE prep lab), and spare 3 times lab exams, what do you think of my chance to become CCIE ? Thank's for any input. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to configure 2 ip address block on a router ?
I request additional ip address block from my ISP. I have 2 ip address blcok: 209.x.x.x /29 and 216.x.x.x/28. How do I configure on my Csico 2524 to use those ip address block ? IS it possible. Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manual change RSP state
!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en" html Hi all, pI want to know how can I change the state of RSP2 in 7507. brThat is, change the master RSP to slave RSP, change slave RSP to master RSP. pThanks brnbsp; pRegards, brRaymond/html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need your opinion
Being at the point in my studies where pure terror is setting in, I would say that one very important component of preparation is the actual configuration and troubleshooting on real routers, configuring "real" scenarios. The books aren't helpful here. The thought process is very important. Seeing the results of operations via the show and debug commands, and understanding what those outputs are saying, is every bit as critical as understanding how to configure OSPF over a frame relay multipoint interface. Understanding the implications of your choices is every bit as important as getting a network to router packets so you can ping interfaces. I find the biggest problem I am facing is the changing of the mindset. In my job, I design networks for customers. It is straightforward and practical work. I would never create a design like some of the things I am seeing in the practice labs. This is the mindset that I think must be changed. Like a chess master, a CCIE must always be thinking 10 moves ahead. This kind of mindset comes only from extensive hands on. I agree that it is not necessarily OTJ that creates the mindset. I agree that extensive practice with scenarios from fatkid or ccbootcamp of Mentor Vlabs can provide that training. Check out www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.htm for good preparation advice from successful CCIE's , including that of the author below, whose advice I have always found worth considering. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Van Oene Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Need your opinion I have to slightly disagree. CCIE is a test, pure and simple. It actually doesn't relate much at all to real world experience. When would you rush like a maniac to build a superfluously complex network in 12 hours with only limited guidelines and then have it maliciously tampered with while you eat lunch only to come back and fix it in 4 hours? CCIE is all about knowing the intricacies of protocols and Cisco's implementation of them and being able to efficiently configure and troubleshoot them under immense pressure (mostly from not wanting to come back and do it again). What Henry is missing is pure hands on router time. You simply have to practise your configuration routine for the basics over and over until you do it in your sleep. (this is true actually, you'll know your ready when you dream about IOS and have nightmares about routes missing from your table when everything looks right in the config) Rack time at ccbootcamp or similar might fill in the blanks here. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/10/2001 at 11:53 AM Robert Nelson-Cox wrote: From: Henry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Henry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need your opinion Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:28:47 -0800 (PST) Hi all, Need your opinion here. Currently I'm (quite paper) CCNP. I don't have home lab nor any OSPF and BGP real world experience. I have limited experience in frame relay, RIP, EIGRP. Now if I take all CCIE related courses (OSPF BGP workshop, ECP1, CCIE preparation training from horizon-mts, Cvoice, CATM, etc, take one week CCIE prep lab), and spare 3 times lab exams, what do you think of my chance to become CCIE ? You'll probably fly the written part, then get shot down in flames during the lab. The CCIE is about real-life experience, and you can't do the lab without it. Thank's for any input. Anytime Rob./ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need your opinion
I know of one CCIE who did it in with only two years experience and and about 6 months of study after obtaining the CCNP/CCDP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Cotts Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:41 AM To: 'Henry D'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Need your opinion There was a regular contributor to this list (may still be lurking) who went from a PBX tech to CCIE in about a year. I believe that he attended the four CCNP courses. Scored a 96 on the lab. Chad; Do you want to provide any details? -Original Message- From: Henry D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need your opinion Hi all, Need your opinion here. Currently I'm (quite paper) CCNP. I don't have home lab nor any OSPF and BGP real world experience. I have limited experience in frame relay, RIP, EIGRP. Now if I take all CCIE related courses (OSPF BGP workshop, ECP1, CCIE preparation training from horizon-mts, Cvoice, CATM, etc, take one week CCIE prep lab), and spare 3 times lab exams, what do you think of my chance to become CCIE ? Thank's for any input. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to configure 2 ip address block on a router ?
yes just add the following lines to your eth port ip address 216.x.x.(x+1)255.255.255.248 secondary then PCs using that block should use that addr as a gateway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to configure 2 ip address block on a router ? I request additional ip address block from my ISP. I have 2 ip address blcok: 209.x.x.x /29 and 216.x.x.x/28. How do I configure on my Csico 2524 to use those ip address block ? IS it possible. Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update
Nigel, question #1, can you ping from domain to domain? Particularly from IS-IS to OSPF? Question #2, isn't the creation of the route to null 0 established behaviour on Cisco routers when summarization is invoked, no matter what the protocol involved? I was planning on doing a couple of the Slattery exercises later this week. I like your idea of substituting IS-IS in there. When I have completed the exercises, I will try what you did and report back. I do wish Mentor allowed the saving of multiple sets of configurations from their pods. I use the 6 router open lab for the complex scenarios, but can only save a singe set of configs. So I have to choose wisely. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nigel Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:26 AM To: Cisco Group Study; CCIE_Lab Group Study Subject:ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update Hi All, I was working with redistribution between OSPF and IS-IS domains and got = this=20 route in the table and wondered if anyone have seen this and could = explain. I'm=20 using the example from Slattery/Burton pg. 297 (ex. #10). I've replace = the EIGRP=20 process with Isis and in summarizing the ospf routes into isis I get the = following=20 route in the RIB of the router doing the redistribution/summarization... Relevant configs...on the router performing redistribution. ! router ospf 200 log-adjacency-changes summary-address 182.18.0.0 255.255.0.0 redistribute isis metric 300 metric-type 1 subnets network 172.16.253.4 0.0.0.3 area 0 network 172.16.254.0 0.0.0.255 area 0 distribute-list 4 out ! router isis=20 summary-address 172.16.0.0 255.255.0.0 =20 redistribute ospf 200 =20 net 48.0001...0001.00 r2_01#sh ip ro 172.16.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 9 subnets, 5 masks O IA 172.16.2.252/30 [110/139] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 C 172.16.254.0/24 is directly connected, Ethernet0 C 172.16.253.4/30 is directly connected, Loopback0 O 172.16.253.9/32 [110/11] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 O IA 172.16.2.32/27 [110/144] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 O IA 172.16.2.4/30 [110/202] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 i su 172.16.0.0/16 [115/30] via 0.0.0.0, Null0 O IA 172.16.1.0/24 [110/74] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:36, Ethernet0 O IA 172.16.2.0/24 [110/138] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:36, Ethernet0 182.18.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 6 subnets, 2 masks i L1 182.18.4.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.1.1, Serial1 i L1 182.18.5.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.2.2, Serial0 O 182.18.0.0/16 is a summary, 02:21:02, Null0 C 182.18.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1 C 182.18.2.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0 i L1 182.18.3.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.2.2, Serial0 [115/20] via 182.18.1.1, Serial1 Connected ISIS router which sees the summarized route... r4_02c#sh ip ro Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area=20 N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2 E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate default U - per-user static route, o - ODR Gateway of last resort is not set i L2 172.16.0.0/16 [115/40] via 182.18.1.2, Serial0 182.18.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 6 subnets, 2 masks C 182.18.4.0/24 is directly connected, TokenRing0 i L1 182.18.5.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.3.1, Serial1 i L2 182.18.0.0/16 [115/40] via 182.18.1.2, Serial0 C 182.18.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0 i L1 182.18.2.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.3.1, Serial1 [115/20] via 182.18.1.2, Serial0 C 182.18.3.0/24 is directly connected, Serial i su 172.16.0.0/16 [115/30] via 0.0.0.0, Null0 I'm thinking that this route is being suppressed but on the connected = isis=20 routers within it's routing domain I get this summarized route to the = ospf networks.=20 What does the "su" represent in the table. And if this is being = suppressed why is=20 it showing up in the RIB at all. I know BGP allows the suppression of = routes and=20 was unaware that IGP's did this as well. Is this only specific to = isis..? Has anyone encountered this and knows what it means. Off to check the = RFC's. =20 Nigel.. ___ To unsubscribe from the CCIELAB list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: unsubscribe ccielab _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
How does any application no if it's registerd or non-registered? or real address? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
With the shortage of registerd addresses out there and 99 percent of all programs work with NAT. Then why are we wasting register addresses on private networks for? Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Secure and Cost-effective Networking with VPN seminar from Intel and UUNET
http://vpnforum.regsvc.com/ Enjoy! Denis _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where to find ip ospf hello-interval?
Hi. Im practicing ospf commands on my cisco router, and was wondering-does anyone know where the ip ospf hello-interval command is located? such as, config mode--router--ospf?? Couldnt find it under there! Also, is there a good site or page that explains ospf commands in English, and in detail? Thanks! _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100
I read somewhere that they are working on revising the 802.1q standard to support per-vlan STPs and it's based on Cisco's per vlan STP. Not sure what the current status is. You could turn off STP to avoid this I think (haven't tried) if your network layout doesn't have any loops, etc. Of course, if they do update the 802.1q standard then the vendors will need to update their code, etc. So, if vendors don't follow a standard to the spec or slightly modify it then you might run into problems. Thats why their are standards and why it's important people stick to them. As for FastEtherChannel vs Trunking on Bay comment, FastEtherChannel is Cisco propiertary trunking method. Bay has same thing but it is also Bay propiertary and is called different things on different Bay/Nortel products (on the switches it's called MLT, on BayRS it's called multiline, other products may have other names). --- Steve Linney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking into this Cisco/non-Cisco switch issue just recently and was told that the 802.1q standard stipulates only 1 x STP, and yet with Cisco's 802.1q implementation you can have per vlan STP (not quite matching the 802.1q standard). Perhaps someone in the group can clear this issue up for us. Steve "Piatnitchi Cristian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Rico Take care ! I had many problems with set up a STP, trunking and 802.1q between Cisco 5000 and Bay Networks. I gave up because finally I used just 1 link between these devices. I was surprised to see that FastEtherChannel on Cisco means trunking on Bays'. This is what somebody from CISCO staff suggested to me. -Original Message- From: Washington Rico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100 Dear all, I wonder if anyone knows if it is possible to trunk a 3com Superstack II 1100 with a Cisco 5000 serious switch. 3com switch is the client and recieving vlan info from Cisco5000? If it is possible which Trunking Protocal should be used? I appreciate the help... Rico _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New router LSA created after full adjacency?
Scott, After further study of the DR/BDR election process on bcast networks I can confirm that an LSA is created between the 2-way state and the EX-Start state, this is a type 2 OSPF packet and is unicast from the DR to the BDR. A second LSA is created after the FULL state, this is a type 4 OSPF packet and is multicast to 224.0.0.5 i.e all OSPF routers to let them know that an adjacency has been successfully formed. HTH, Phil. --- Phil Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I'm currently working on OSPF myself and believe your question has already been answered in an earlier post. I have found using a Sniffer very helpful, used in combination with the debug commands you mention. If you add 'debug ip ospf packet' you can start to match the sniffer trace directly with the debug trace. So you can see the stateful world of the Router versus the network frames that have been generated. Word of warning though, and something I have been suspicious of for some time. You cannot take the word of Debug to absolutely i.e as a software tool it is seen by very few people compared to an Analyser and as such I believe contains proportionately more bugs. It also can get a trace out of sequence with what really is happening on the wire, however, if you look out for sequence numbers and checksums you can get it back in step. Regards, Phil. --- scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear OSPF gurus: I am probably missing a very basic point here as I am somewhat new to OSPF. I have been debugging ospf adjacency, ospf events, ospf flood plus some others. After routers become adjacent, the flooding process starts. What I have noticed is that right after routers become adjacent, they create a new router LSA and add one to the sequence number. (The DR also sends out a network LSA.) My question is this: Does each router create this new instance of the LSA to trigger the flooding process itself or is there some other reason why a "new" LSA is created? *Why not just send out the original LSA to begin the flooding process?* Doesn't sending out a new LSA cause routers to recalculate their routing tables when, in fact, they just calculated them moments ago when they became adjacent using the original LSA? I understand the need for the flooding process. I don't understand the need for a new LSA. Thanks in advance, Scott Chapin _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: where to find ip ospf hello-interval?
I think I posted a useful link here yesterday. You can do a CCO search using the phrase "ip ospf hello" using the quote marks as part of the search string, and get some good hits. But in answer to your question, the hello time can be adjusted on an interface by interface basis. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paver, Charles Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:35 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:where to find "ip ospf hello-interval? Hi. Im practicing ospf commands on my cisco router, and was wondering-does anyone know where the ip ospf hello-interval command is located? such as, config mode--router--ospf?? Couldnt find it under there! Also, is there a good site or page that explains ospf commands in English, and in detail? Thanks! _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
modem on a aux port
I know this has been asked before but where can I get a quick sample config to set up a modem on a aux port for remote access to that router?? Chris Stocker Network Admin - ISC Cablevision Systems _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100
We did something like this between a Nortel Centillion 100 and a Cisco 2924. After talking to both companies we decided to just experiment and got it working by seting up the MLT on the Nortel switch and created a port group on the Cisco switch. "Erick B." [EMAIL PROTECTED]@groupstudy.com on 01/10/2001 01:43:30 PM Please respond to "Erick B." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Linney [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100 I read somewhere that they are working on revising the 802.1q standard to support per-vlan STPs and it's based on Cisco's per vlan STP. Not sure what the current status is. You could turn off STP to avoid this I think (haven't tried) if your network layout doesn't have any loops, etc. Of course, if they do update the 802.1q standard then the vendors will need to update their code, etc. So, if vendors don't follow a standard to the spec or slightly modify it then you might run into problems. Thats why their are standards and why it's important people stick to them. As for FastEtherChannel vs Trunking on Bay comment, FastEtherChannel is Cisco propiertary trunking method. Bay has same thing but it is also Bay propiertary and is called different things on different Bay/Nortel products (on the switches it's called MLT, on BayRS it's called multiline, other products may have other names). --- Steve Linney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking into this Cisco/non-Cisco switch issue just recently and was told that the 802.1q standard stipulates only 1 x STP, and yet with Cisco's 802.1q implementation you can have per vlan STP (not quite matching the 802.1q standard). Perhaps someone in the group can clear this issue up for us. Steve "Piatnitchi Cristian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Rico Take care ! I had many problems with set up a STP, trunking and 802.1q between Cisco 5000 and Bay Networks. I gave up because finally I used just 1 link between these devices. I was surprised to see that FastEtherChannel on Cisco means trunking on Bays'. This is what somebody from CISCO staff suggested to me. -Original Message- From: Washington Rico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100 Dear all, I wonder if anyone knows if it is possible to trunk a 3com Superstack II 1100 with a Cisco 5000 serious switch. 3com switch is the client and recieving vlan info from Cisco5000? If it is possible which Trunking Protocal should be used? I appreciate the help... Rico _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
SmartAlec answer: Because people don't have the technical knowledge to implement NAT. I would bet that many folks out there even in the networking world have ever heard of it. Otherwise, like others have pointed out, people may encounter problems when gaming online, running VPNs, etc. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the shortage of registerd addresses out there and 99 percent of all programs work with NAT. Then why are we wasting register addresses on private networks for? Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Dan West -- CCNA, CCNP (in progress) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCRAN passed
Nickel, Is there any fill in the blank type of question for BCRAN? Tony Chen "Gabriel Nickel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/00 07:51AM Yes!!! Compared to Routing and Switching i found this exam fairly easy. There were like 20 choose-IOS-command-from-list questions. The following subjects were covered: - Frame Relay - X25 - AAA/Security - ISDN - Dialup, Modem Config - Router and Connection Deployment - PPP - NAT I took the Boson #1 and COLT test and read the Ciscopress BCRAN book by Paquet (except for the chapter dealing with the 700's). The list, off course, is also a great resource. gabriel _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This message is a private communication. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, or use it, and do not disclose it to others. Please notify the sender of the delivery error by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. Thank you. - Visit http://www.ballfoundation.org for our latest news. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: modem on a aux port
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/701/6.html -Original Message- From: Chris Stocker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 12:59 PM To: Groupstudy Subject: modem on a aux port I know this has been asked before but where can I get a quick sample config to set up a modem on a aux port for remote access to that router?? Chris Stocker Network Admin - ISC Cablevision Systems _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP routing
Use access lists on both sides. You can apply it to the ethernet interfaces as an inbound ACL. For instance: Map: 1.1.1.0/24RouterA---frameRouterB-3.3.3.0/24 2.2.2.0/24 sec 4.4.4.0/24 secondary router configs: RouterA interface e0 ip address 1.1.1.1 /24 ip address 2.2.2.2/24 secondary access-group 101 in access-list 101 permit ip 1.1.1.0 /24 3.3.3.0 /24 access-list 101 permit ip 2.2.2.0 /24 4.4.4.0 /24 RotuerB interface e0 ip address 3.3.3.3 /24 ip address 4.4.4.4 /24 secondary access-group 101 in access-list 101 permit ip 3.3.3.0 /24 1.1.1.0 /24 access-list 101 permit ip 4.4.4.0 /24 2.2.2.0 /24 I left out the real masks cuz I'm lazy but you should get the idea. Just rely on the normal route table for the routing. You can add a deny statements to the ACLs with the LOG keyword to see what is being denied. Good luck Kenny ""md. nazri"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 005501c07ad8$18c59360$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:005501c07ad8$18c59360$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... hi all, i need some help on this, 2 routers connected over frame relay, named RouterA and RouterB. RouterA ethernet has 2 ip address, X(x,.x.x.x) as primary and Y(y.y.y.y) as secondary. RouterB ethernet also has 2 ip address, W(w.w.w.w) and Z(z.z.z.z). X supposed to communicate only with W and Y only talk to Z. There is no way that X talk to Z or Y to W. How do i achieve this by static routing or any other ways.. PLS help rgds nazri telekom malaysia _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: access-list ?
Actually the implied mask is all 0's - so this acl will only permit a route
which is all 0's - or normally the default route.
Kenny
"suaveguru" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
I also think it will permit all because in access-list
we use wild card bits and 0.0.0.0 simply means
255.255.255.255 which literally means permit all
hope it helps
suaveguru
--- Jaeheon Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Tony
I think it will permit only default routes.
Regards
Jaeheon
On 9 Jan 2001 19:38:00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
("Tony van Ree")
wrote:
Hi,
I don't think it does much.
I think it will permit all.
Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia
On Tuesday, January 09, 2001 at 02:52:09 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
What does this access list do?
neighbor ?.?.?.? route-map ? in
route-map ?-in permit 10
match ip address 5
access-list 5 permit 0.0.0.0
Does it mean permit nothing, or does it mean
permit default route? Or
am I way off? I think it's there to block
everything.
Thank You,
Andre
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RE: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100
On the Accelars, you can have multiple STP groups and priorities for switches as well, so I guess that's their way around the 802.1Q limitation, even though it's not quite conforming to spec. -Brant. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erick B. Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 1:44 PM To: Steve Linney; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100 I read somewhere that they are working on revising the 802.1q standard to support per-vlan STPs and it's based on Cisco's per vlan STP. Not sure what the current status is. You could turn off STP to avoid this I think (haven't tried) if your network layout doesn't have any loops, etc. Of course, if they do update the 802.1q standard then the vendors will need to update their code, etc. So, if vendors don't follow a standard to the spec or slightly modify it then you might run into problems. Thats why their are standards and why it's important people stick to them. As for FastEtherChannel vs Trunking on Bay comment, FastEtherChannel is Cisco propiertary trunking method. Bay has same thing but it is also Bay propiertary and is called different things on different Bay/Nortel products (on the switches it's called MLT, on BayRS it's called multiline, other products may have other names). --- Steve Linney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking into this Cisco/non-Cisco switch issue just recently and was told that the 802.1q standard stipulates only 1 x STP, and yet with Cisco's 802.1q implementation you can have per vlan STP (not quite matching the 802.1q standard). Perhaps someone in the group can clear this issue up for us. Steve "Piatnitchi Cristian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Rico Take care ! I had many problems with set up a STP, trunking and 802.1q between Cisco 5000 and Bay Networks. I gave up because finally I used just 1 link between these devices. I was surprised to see that FastEtherChannel on Cisco means trunking on Bays'. This is what somebody from CISCO staff suggested to me. -Original Message- From: Washington Rico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100 Dear all, I wonder if anyone knows if it is possible to trunk a 3com Superstack II 1100 with a Cisco 5000 serious switch. 3com switch is the client and recieving vlan info from Cisco5000? If it is possible which Trunking Protocal should be used? I appreciate the help... Rico _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
Also... NATing drops your throughput substantially. In my experience, NATing is normally used only as a last resort (no ip addresses or to clear a financial hurdle) or to connect external networks such as business partners. It is definitely not a cure-all, "why use registered addresses?" solution. Just an opinion of course... Roman -Original Message- From: Dan West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network SmartAlec answer: Because people don't have the technical knowledge to implement NAT. I would bet that many folks out there even in the networking world have ever heard of it. Otherwise, like others have pointed out, people may encounter problems when gaming online, running VPNs, etc. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the shortage of registerd addresses out there and 99 percent of all programs work with NAT. Then why are we wasting register addresses on private networks for? Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Dan West -- CCNA, CCNP (in progress) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update
Chuck, Null 0 creation is not automatic for OSPF, you must manually enter it. Question #2, isn't the creation of the route to null 0 established behaviour on Cisco routers when summarization is invoked, no matter what the protocol involved? - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Nigel Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Cisco Group Study" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "CCIE_Lab Group Study" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 12:28 PM Subject: RE: ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update Nigel, question #1, can you ping from domain to domain? Particularly from IS-IS to OSPF? Question #2, isn't the creation of the route to null 0 established behaviour on Cisco routers when summarization is invoked, no matter what the protocol involved? I was planning on doing a couple of the Slattery exercises later this week. I like your idea of substituting IS-IS in there. When I have completed the exercises, I will try what you did and report back. I do wish Mentor allowed the saving of multiple sets of configurations from their pods. I use the 6 router open lab for the complex scenarios, but can only save a singe set of configs. So I have to choose wisely. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nigel Taylor Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:26 AM To: Cisco Group Study; CCIE_Lab Group Study Subject: ISIS and OSPF redistribution Weirdness - Update Hi All, I was working with redistribution between OSPF and IS-IS domains and got = this=20 route in the table and wondered if anyone have seen this and could = explain. I'm=20 using the example from Slattery/Burton pg. 297 (ex. #10). I've replace = the EIGRP=20 process with Isis and in summarizing the ospf routes into isis I get the = following=20 route in the RIB of the router doing the redistribution/summarization... Relevant configs...on the router performing redistribution. ! router ospf 200 log-adjacency-changes summary-address 182.18.0.0 255.255.0.0 redistribute isis metric 300 metric-type 1 subnets network 172.16.253.4 0.0.0.3 area 0 network 172.16.254.0 0.0.0.255 area 0 distribute-list 4 out ! router isis=20 summary-address 172.16.0.0 255.255.0.0 =20 redistribute ospf 200 =20 net 48.0001...0001.00 r2_01#sh ip ro 172.16.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 9 subnets, 5 masks O IA 172.16.2.252/30 [110/139] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 C 172.16.254.0/24 is directly connected, Ethernet0 C 172.16.253.4/30 is directly connected, Loopback0 O 172.16.253.9/32 [110/11] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 O IA 172.16.2.32/27 [110/144] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 O IA 172.16.2.4/30 [110/202] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:35, Ethernet0 i su 172.16.0.0/16 [115/30] via 0.0.0.0, Null0 O IA 172.16.1.0/24 [110/74] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:36, Ethernet0 O IA 172.16.2.0/24 [110/138] via 172.16.254.1, 02:35:36, Ethernet0 182.18.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 6 subnets, 2 masks i L1 182.18.4.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.1.1, Serial1 i L1 182.18.5.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.2.2, Serial0 O 182.18.0.0/16 is a summary, 02:21:02, Null0 C 182.18.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial1 C 182.18.2.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0 i L1 182.18.3.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.2.2, Serial0 [115/20] via 182.18.1.1, Serial1 Connected ISIS router which sees the summarized route... r4_02c#sh ip ro Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area=20 N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2 E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate default U - per-user static route, o - ODR Gateway of last resort is not set i L2 172.16.0.0/16 [115/40] via 182.18.1.2, Serial0 182.18.0.0/16 is variably subnetted, 6 subnets, 2 masks C 182.18.4.0/24 is directly connected, TokenRing0 i L1 182.18.5.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.3.1, Serial1 i L2 182.18.0.0/16 [115/40] via 182.18.1.2, Serial0 C 182.18.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0 i L1 182.18.2.0/24 [115/20] via 182.18.3.1, Serial1 [115/20] via 182.18.1.2, Serial0 C 182.18.3.0/24 is directly connected, Serial i su 172.16.0.0/16 [115/30] via 0.0.0.0, Null0 I'm thinking that this route is being suppressed but on the connected = isis=20 routers within it's routing domain I get this summarized route to the = ospf networks.=20 What does the "su" represent in the table. And if this is being = suppressed why is=20 it showing up in the RIB at all. I know BGP allows the suppression of = routes and=20 was unaware that IGP's did this as well. Is this only specific to = isis..? Has anyone encountered this and knows what it means. Off to check the = RFC's. =20 Nigel.. ___ To
Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #937
I have a couple of opinions here. Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical) list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as hotmail. Here\\\'s my reasoning. If you don\\\'t use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via an employer, academic, or library account. An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different mailboxes for personal and business matters. Even if you need to get to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external POP3 connectivity. And many intranets don't. For example, we block everything that isn't HTTP traffic. POP3 is out of the question. Besides, POP3 is such a PITA because of the local mailbox limitations, and most of the ISPs I've had don't or won't run IMAP. If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of email clients (including browsers), I\\\'d really be uncomfortable with them configuring my routers. If you mean that anyone who "needs" the www interface for simplicity's sake, I would agree. However, the biggest reason I use web-mail is for reasons of accessibility. I don't have to worry about whether a message got downloaded by my mail client at work and is no longer available on the POP server to access when I'm home. And for those of us who do a lot of traveling to other sites (i.e. SE's) web mail is about the only practical thing. Another good thing about web mailboxes is that they don't disappear when you change ISPs. I've had God knows how many POP mailboxes over the years, but I've managed to keep my Yahoo account for three years. That said, I do get frustrated with the limitations of web mail, and I'll use my "regular" mailboxes for big attachments, etc. But for day-to-day regular email, Yahoo is fine. Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses \\\"email slang\\\" such as \\\"u\\\" rather than \\\"you,\\\" etc., is not improving their image in the industry. And image can\\\'t be ignored completely. This is also my experience. One needs to present at least a somewhat professional image to be taken seriously. If one is too lazy to compose proper e-mails, one may be too lazy to configure a router, or anything else, properly. Ken Mays Network analyst, AutoZone --- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Disappointed with ccnp!!
we haven't heard from the original poster. Poster: What are do you think of the responses you've received? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan West Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:50 PM To: Sam Adams; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Disappointed with ccnp!! I interviewed at a State of CA networking position. Level 1 was starting at 55K/year. Level 2 at 65K. Level 1 work was basically running pings and traceroutes, diagnosing some frame relay probs... pretty straight-forward. I didn't get the position though, because I have no experience with SNA/DLSW :P ...bummmer... --- Sam Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, they tend to underpay most tech positions. But that might not be true in SAC A Tomato. But it is true in Silicon Valley and SF BA. But as far as retirement and generally lower stress...well that's a different story. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan West Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:12 AM To: Croyle, James; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Disappointed with ccnp!! It all depends on who you work for. I'm working for a company in Sacramento making good pay and I only currently have my CCNA with two years of hands-on. Although I do have intensive practical experience with Unix and Cisco routers. If you work for the state or your county, you can make a LOT of dough. They tend to overpay for most positions. If you work for some smaller companies, I've found that they will pay you much less for even more work Shop around. --- "Croyle, James" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be disappointed with your CCNP, that's for sure... Just don't consider it the end all to getting that job. I started with my company in June 1999 with an MSCE and CCNA, neither of which I attained with work experience, one with school, the other self study. I got a job setting up small LANs for scanning projects, and then doing the scanning along with the others! Then, moved UP to the help desk!!! Didn't even start there, is what I am getting at. Got promoted in 2 months to help desk supervisor by doing a good job (I think), then moved to engineering team in 6 months to help design our new Cisco network because there were only 2 other CCNAs around to do it. In June of 2000 I attained my CCNP, with some work experience on the equipment and our test lab at work. Now I would consider myself a valuable member of our Network Infrastructure team, but it didn't happen overnight, and even though I wanted it to happen, I really didn't expect it to at this company based on where I started. One more thought. There are those, including a very senior Microsoft Architect here, who still say I don't have enough experience to go after my CCIE, that it would not benefit myself, or the company because even if I attained it, I would not have enough years of experience to back that cert. Well to him, I said, I am not going to sit around 10 years until I have your experience, I am going to study everyday, and get involved with every network problem and design issue I can to gain experience faster in troubleshooting methods, and seeing various levels of problems. To that he just shook his head and said with a smile... Kids nowdays.. ;-) By the way, I am 32. Not really a kid anymore. hehehehe HTH Jim -Original Message- From: chris fong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disappointed with ccnp!! I don't know you personally, but I have some suggestions for you to think about. Don't let that certification go to your head. If you give the impression to an employer that you deserve to have a job because of your CCNP, you will not get hired. Don't think that you are better than others because of your CCNP. Also, your personality and attitude that you show during interviews is critical in landing that first job. Show that you can be a team player and can work well and get along with almost anyone. And lastly, consider other entry level positions, such as help desk, because you don't have any actual work experience. Employers don't really consider "lab" as work experience. Hope this helps. Good luck, --- park jeongwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group members. I need your help. I am having a hard time on finding a job. I recently got ccnp certification and looking for the entry level of job for network engineer. I am living in San Francisco, and graduated from college less than a year ago. I have less than a year of network experience that I got from school computer lab. I had a harder time finding a job before I became ccnp. So I studied hard believing that ccnp would get me somewhere at
PIM shared tree source tree
this is taken from there white paper The following process describes the move from shared tree to source tree in more detail: 1 Receiver joins a group; leaf Router C sends a Join message toward RP. 2 RP puts link to Router C in its outgoing interface list. 3 Source sends data; Router A encapsulates data in Register and sends it to RP. 4 RP forwards data down the shared tree to Router C and sends a Join message toward Source. At this point, data may arrive twice at Router C, once encapsulated and once natively. WHY WHY WHY ...it dosent` say why it will arrive nativley.GIT 5 When data arrives natively (unencapsulated) at RP, RP sends a Register-Stop message to Router A.(i can understand that) 6 By default, reception of the first data packet prompts Router C to send a Join message toward Source. 7 When Router C receives data on (S,G),(???) it sends a Prune message for Source up the shared tree. WHY WHY WHY ? 8 RP deletes the link to Router C from outgoing interface of (S,G). RP triggers a Prune message toward Source. WHY WHY ! AM I MISSING SOMETHING..SORRY IVE BEEN AT IT ALL DAY ... and my brain now hurts TIA steve S6234 _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100
Forgot to mention that. Not spec... and propiertary to the XLR's and possibly other Bay switches. Just for history, one of the main identifiers in the 802.1q header has a value from bay. Bay started using their vendor code before the spec was final and it stuck. This was disussed previously on the list and should be in the archives if you want the details. --- Brant Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the Accelars, you can have multiple STP groups and priorities for switches as well, so I guess that's their way around the 802.1Q limitation, even though it's not quite conforming to spec. -Brant. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erick B. Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 1:44 PM To: Steve Linney; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100 I read somewhere that they are working on revising the 802.1q standard to support per-vlan STPs and it's based on Cisco's per vlan STP. Not sure what the current status is. You could turn off STP to avoid this I think (haven't tried) if your network layout doesn't have any loops, etc. Of course, if they do update the 802.1q standard then the vendors will need to update their code, etc. So, if vendors don't follow a standard to the spec or slightly modify it then you might run into problems. Thats why their are standards and why it's important people stick to them. As for FastEtherChannel vs Trunking on Bay comment, FastEtherChannel is Cisco propiertary trunking method. Bay has same thing but it is also Bay propiertary and is called different things on different Bay/Nortel products (on the switches it's called MLT, on BayRS it's called multiline, other products may have other names). --- Steve Linney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking into this Cisco/non-Cisco switch issue just recently and was told that the 802.1q standard stipulates only 1 x STP, and yet with Cisco's 802.1q implementation you can have per vlan STP (not quite matching the 802.1q standard). Perhaps someone in the group can clear this issue up for us. Steve "Piatnitchi Cristian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Rico Take care ! I had many problems with set up a STP, trunking and 802.1q between Cisco 5000 and Bay Networks. I gave up because finally I used just 1 link between these devices. I was surprised to see that FastEtherChannel on Cisco means trunking on Bays'. This is what somebody from CISCO staff suggested to me. -Original Message- From: Washington Rico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VTP Protocal Cisco 5000 and 3com Superstack II 1100 Dear all, I wonder if anyone knows if it is possible to trunk a 3com Superstack II 1100 with a Cisco 5000 serious switch. 3com switch is the client and recieving vlan info from Cisco5000? If it is possible which Trunking Protocal should be used? I appreciate the help... Rico _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIM shared tree source tree
this is taken from there white paper The following process describes the move from shared tree to source tree in more detail: 1 Receiver joins a group; leaf Router C sends a Join message toward RP. 2 RP puts link to Router C in its outgoing interface list. 3 Source sends data; Router A encapsulates data in Register and sends it to RP. 4 RP forwards data down the shared tree to Router C and sends a Join message toward Source. At this point, data may arrive twice at Router C, once encapsulated and once natively. WHY WHY WHY ...it dosent` say why it will arrive nativley.GIT 5 When data arrives natively (unencapsulated) at RP, RP sends a Register-Stop message to Router A.(i can understand that) 6 By default, reception of the first data packet prompts Router C to send a Join message toward Source. 7 When Router C receives data on (S,G),(???) it sends a Prune message for Source up the shared tree. WHY WHY WHY ? 8 RP deletes the link to Router C from outgoing interface of (S,G). RP triggers a Prune message toward Source. WHY WHY ! AM I MISSING SOMETHING..SORRY IVE BEEN AT IT ALL DAY ... and my brain now hurts TIA steve S6234 _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what silent mode is?
Hi group, I find following statement on Cisco web site (univercd): Use the silent mode when you are connecting to a "silent partner" (a device that is not generating BPDUs or other traffic). An example of a silent partner is a traffic generator that is not transmitting packets. Use this keyword with the auto or desirable mode. If you do not specify silent or non-silent, silent is assumed. I have a Cisco 5000 and a Cisco 6500. Both have tons of FEC ports with default setting (silent) while they are connected to switches (apparently, non-silent partner). There wasn't any problem for years. Could any one tell me how non-silent mode could benefit me? How my current setting could potentially compromise my network? Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need your opinion
I beg to differThere is no such thing as a paper CCIE, not with the hands-on lab to back up the written. The lab in and of itself separates the Book Smart from the Packet Jockeys. Cheers, Lance From: Phil Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Phil Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Need your opinion Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:45:50 + (GMT) Have to agree with both posts here. The method that you outline to achieve CCIE status i.e taking all the courses etc, I think you would achieve CCIE status, however, you would still be missing real world experience. This could be termed a 'paper' CCIE although you would obviously be very valuable to the industry. I know that some Support Companies put their staff through training for CCIE in as little as 6 months, however, personally that badge is not for me. I think it comes down to the industries expectations of CCIE status versus your own. HTH, Regards, Phil. --- Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being at the point in my studies where pure terror is setting in, I would say that one very important component of preparation is the actual configuration and troubleshooting on real routers, configuring "real" scenarios. The books aren't helpful here. The thought process is very important. Seeing the results of operations via the show and debug commands, and understanding what those outputs are saying, is every bit as critical as understanding how to configure OSPF over a frame relay multipoint interface. Understanding the implications of your choices is every bit as important as getting a network to router packets so you can ping interfaces. I find the biggest problem I am facing is the changing of the mindset. In my job, I design networks for customers. It is straightforward and practical work. I would never create a design like some of the things I am seeing in the practice labs. This is the mindset that I think must be changed. Like a chess master, a CCIE must always be thinking 10 moves ahead. This kind of mindset comes only from extensive hands on. I agree that it is not necessarily OTJ that creates the mindset. I agree that extensive practice with scenarios from fatkid or ccbootcamp of Mentor Vlabs can provide that training. Check out www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.htm for good preparation advice from successful CCIE's , including that of the author below, whose advice I have always found worth considering. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Van Oene Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Need your opinion I have to slightly disagree. CCIE is a test, pure and simple. It actually doesn't relate much at all to real world experience. When would you rush like a maniac to build a superfluously complex network in 12 hours with only limited guidelines and then have it maliciously tampered with while you eat lunch only to come back and fix it in 4 hours? CCIE is all about knowing the intricacies of protocols and Cisco's implementation of them and being able to efficiently configure and troubleshoot them under immense pressure (mostly from not wanting to come back and do it again). What Henry is missing is pure hands on router time. You simply have to practise your configuration routine for the basics over and over until you do it in your sleep. (this is true actually, you'll know your ready when you dream about IOS and have nightmares about routes missing from your table when everything looks right in the config) Rack time at ccbootcamp or similar might fill in the blanks here. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/10/2001 at 11:53 AM Robert Nelson-Cox wrote: From: Henry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Henry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need your opinion Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 03:28:47 -0800 (PST) Hi all, Need your opinion here. Currently I'm (quite paper) CCNP. I don't have home lab nor any OSPF and BGP real world experience. I have limited experience in frame relay, RIP, EIGRP. Now if I take all CCIE related courses (OSPF BGP workshop, ECP1, CCIE preparation training from horizon-mts, Cvoice, CATM, etc, take one week CCIE prep lab), and spare 3 times lab exams, what do you think of my chance to become CCIE ? You'll probably fly the written part, then get shot down in flames during the lab. The CCIE is about real-life experience, and you can't do the lab without it. Thank's for any input. Anytime Rob./ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _
RE: where to find ip ospf hello-interval?
What IOS? Here's one for 11.3. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/ The hello-interval can be found when you go into an interface mode.. config t int e0/1 (whatever interfaces you have) ip ospf hello-interval Good luck with your studies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paver, Charles Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:35 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: where to find "ip ospf hello-interval? Hi. Im practicing ospf commands on my cisco router, and was wondering-does anyone know where the ip ospf hello-interval command is located? such as, config mode--router--ospf?? Couldnt find it under there! Also, is there a good site or page that explains ospf commands in English, and in detail? Thanks! _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
Using addressed outside of the 1918 space that are properly registered with a registry can have some benefit to those organization that possess a sufficient quantity of them to suit their needs. The question I would ask would be; "what do you gain by using the 1918 space when you have enough unique address space to suit your current and future needs?" With the explosion of inter connectivity between organizations for business partnerships, mergers/acquisitions etc, having unique address space will ensure that duplicate addressing across an intranet/extranet is never a challenge you have to deal with. Naturally, if your addressing space is slim, you will be forced into unregistered addressing space. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/10/2001 at 8:08 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question here? Why would anyone use register addresses on their private network, while you can use UN-register addresses like 10.X.X.X ? Do you really need to burn register addresses on a private network? I would like to hear anyone opinion on this subject Brian _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Node availability and status reporter
I am looking for software which will give me report on availability of routers and server through out the weeks and year. Does anyone know program which won't cost fortune and will give reports ? We have HP OV in place but reporter will cost thousands of dollars. Thanks.. Inamul _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VTP domain between Cisco switch 6509 and Extreme switch BLACKDIAMOND 6808
Hi, sombody try a trunk between Cisco switch 6509 and Extreme switch BLACKDIAMOND 6808 to propagate cisco VTP domain ? thanks in advanced -- Federico Díaz Herrera Lógistica y Proyectos Departamento de Redes y Telecomunicaciones Ingeniero -- Terra Networks México Blvd. Díaz Ordaz 123 Pte. Col. Santa María. Monterrey, NL. México, 64550 Tel. 150-4297 Fax 318-8785 Page 1440800 -- Mercado Continuo: TRR | Nasdaq: TRRA -- México http://www.terra.com.mx -- _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boson vs. Colt ??????
To All, Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or Colt? Example: BCRAN Opinions appreciated. Thanks Raheem _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch
Tommy, Actually you CAN have the CSS in an "active / active" mode with true firewall load balancing. Wayne Lawson, CCIE # 5244 Systems Engineer - Cisco Systems, Inc. 2000 Town Center, Suite 450 Southfield, Michigan 48075 Voice: (248) 455 - 1663 Cell: (248) 709 - 5797 Pager: (800) 365 - 4578 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tommy Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:15 AM To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail) Subject: Re: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch Yes, they can unless you're trying to load-balance firewalls. Try to load-balance firewalls and you have to go active-standby. Tommy - Original Message - From: "Muhammad Faheem" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:26 AM Subject: Any body know about Cisco Content Switch Hi All Just wanted to know that Cisco Content Switch (CSS-11000 CSS-11800) can work as Active - Active or not. Thanks for Input Muhammad Faheem Systems Engineer Afcomp Hello : (9714)-3933878 / 3027338 Fax : (9714)-3933832 Web : www.afcomp.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need your opinion
Hi, Be aware however a PBX Tech probably had a fair knowledge of the real guts behind routing, trunking, route filtering and transmission. I by trade am a Telecommunications Technician, I have a Universtiy qualification Associate Diploma in Applied Science (Computing), I have more electronic and computer papers than you can poke a stick at plus 35 Years experience in push various forms of data around different types of networks from Telegraph networks to Pinball Machines. Lots of PBX Techs have similar types of background. They often have a good background in the relevant areas. Believe me when I say to learn routing (Programming exchanges) by physically running piano wire and jumper wire through a frame to connect switch points together gives you a good idea of how the switching and routing works in a solid state router. Whilst I have only been working with true Internetworks for 15 years there is a better than average chance I would fail the CCIE not because I don't understand the technology but because there are pockets of it I never use on a day to day basis. This is true of all of us therrefore we need to learn more than the average guy to pass. My guess is that is where the "E" comes from in the CCIE. Teunis Hobart, Tasmania Australia On Wednesday, January 10, 2001 at 10:40:58 AM, Daniel Cotts wrote: There was a regular contributor to this list (may still be lurking) who went from a PBX tech to CCIE in about a year. I believe that he attended the four CCNP courses. Scored a 96 on the lab. Chad; Do you want to provide any details? -Original Message- From: Henry D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need your opinion Hi all, Need your opinion here. Currently I'm (quite paper) CCNP. I don't have home lab nor any OSPF and BGP real world experience. I have limited experience in frame relay, RIP, EIGRP. Now if I take all CCIE related courses (OSPF BGP workshop, ECP1, CCIE preparation training from horizon-mts, Cvoice, CATM, etc, take one week CCIE prep lab), and spare 3 times lab exams, what do you think of my chance to become CCIE ? Thank's for any input. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.tasmail.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson vs. Colt ??????
let me be the first of many to say: Boson On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Rah Sta wrote: To All, Which practice exams are better for CCNP, Boson or Colt? Example: BCRAN Opinions appreciated. Thanks Raheem _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Node availability and status reporter
have you heard of the program called MRTG? Its free Runs on NT or Unix and utilizes SNMP to gather and graph information. It will then generate an Web page with the information. Its fairly simple, but its great for seeing utilization on the routers and whether they are till "up" Heres the link: http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/ Dave Vigna Sr. Technical Consultant Master CNE, MCSE, CCNP/CCDP (248) 358-0890 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. -Original Message- From: Desai, Inamul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Node availability and status reporter I am looking for software which will give me report on availability of routers and server through out the weeks and year. Does anyone know program which won't cost fortune and will give reports ? We have HP OV in place but reporter will cost thousands of dollars. Thanks.. Inamul _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: access-list ?
Hi,
I must be missing the point.
I thought a default route was telling the device go here for all routes I don't know
about. Does that not imply any not excluded and the access-list as I understand it
does not exclude any until the perfit default which I would take to read permit any.
Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia
On Wednesday, January 10, 2001 at 01:02:18 AM, suaveguru wrote:
I also think it will permit all because in access-list
we use wild card bits and 0.0.0.0 simply means
255.255.255.255 which literally means permit all
hope it helps
suaveguru
--- Jaeheon Yoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Tony
I think it will permit only default routes.
Regards
Jaeheon
On 9 Jan 2001 19:38:00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
("Tony van Ree")
wrote:
Hi,
I don't think it does much.
I think it will permit all.
Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia
On Tuesday, January 09, 2001 at 02:52:09 PM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
What does this access list do?
neighbor ?.?.?.? route-map ? in
route-map ?-in permit 10
match ip address 5
access-list 5 permit 0.0.0.0
Does it mean permit nothing, or does it mean
permit default route? Or
am I way off? I think it's there to block
everything.
Thank You,
Andre
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Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network
Hi, Some applications are written with a particular address in mind, some people put security lists on servers and applications. When working across a network with a lot of structural changes constantly happening (Government Networks as an example when there is Departmental or Agency mergers.) often the "private addresses" used is the same within two merging organisations. This can create issues for accessing servers. It is therefore important to hard map NAT in these circumstances but that requires a one to one relationship. Why put in the extra level of complexity. (DHCP often has similar security issues) Just a thought Teunis Hobart, Tasmania Australia On Wednesday, January 10, 2001 at 12:34:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does any application no if it's registerd or non-registered? or real address? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.tasmail.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cisco muscles
Nah, you can juggle with even numbers of items as well. I've never tried 5500s though. Personally I prefer the picture on the front of Priscilla's TDND - my interpretation is that it's an exec (with blank eyes and tie) at the whiteboard with the management requirements, the woman is interpreting his requirements, doing the research and design, and telling the square-jawed big-muscled jock at the laptop (who can't be technical - he appears to be writing on the laptop screen with a felt-tipped pen) where to install the heavy equipment ;-) JMcL (tongue firmly in cheek, for those who couldn't work it out) -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 11/01/2001 09:03 am --- ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED]@groupstudy.com on 11/01/2001 12:42:37 am Please respond to ElephantChild [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Harkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: cisco muscles On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Tim Harkin wrote: The best way to train for this kind of heavy lifting is gradually. Start out by carrying Ciscopress books with you all the time. Add a laptop, and a few more textbooks when you are ready. Before you know it, you will be able to juggle a couple of 5500's like they were golf balls. ...while balancing a 12016 on your nose. :-) ObGratuitousPedantry: I think you need an odd number of items to juggle. OTOH, there's no argument that 5500s are odd items to juggle. Original Message Follows From: "Fowler, Joey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Fowler, Joey" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: cisco muscles Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:15:12 -0500 What are you talking about, that's easy, now holding a Catalyst 5509 in place with one arm and screwing it into a rack that were the big muscles come from. :) Joey -Original Message- From: Hennen, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: cisco muscles The big muscles come from holding a 3640 in place with one arm and screwing it into a rack with the other while trying not to drop the screws or the screwdriver :) Dave H -Original Message- From: netlinesys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cisco muscles Ibrahim, Maybe these guys like eating spinach a lot :-) "Ibrahim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If we see on Ciscopress book cover, there are always man with big muscles strong. I'm working on CCIE .. and muscles :-) Anyone here have CCIE plus big muscles ? -- "Airplane travel is nature's way of making you look like your passport photo." --- Al Gore _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTP Domain, (again)
As we discussed in a subsequent post, I overstated my religious positions. Yes, the CatOS will allow all members of a domain to be server, but there are issues with the domain understanding the 'correct server' under specific circumstances. As such, and given no real real-time redundancy requirements for the protocol, I maintain that only one switch should be given server status in the domain and all other switches should be made clients. --- Jianfeng Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I know, you can have more than one VTP servers in a domain and all switches in the domain can be a server. Changes on any server will automatically propagate to all switches in the domain. No changes allowed on a client. Robert Padjen wrote: Only one switch in a domain can act as the server. All others must be clients. The recommendation to set up the 'biggest' switch as a server is OK, however, it is not really necessary. If it works out, the server should be the switch closest to the center of the VTP domain. This will usually have the best/most connections to the rest of the domain, which will provide the best, central administration point. I would also recommend that you standardize on all lower case or all upper case for the VTP domain name, and that you actively set version two assuming that all devices in the domain support it. I will note that I know quite a few administrators who have just gone to transparent mode and forgo VTP. This seems to be because they've been burned, especially in the 3.x version of CatOS, which did have some bugs. I'd recommend using it, but make sure you follow the rules. --- Stephen Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sure you set the Biggest switch as a server,set up your next biggest switch as server also . Set the domain on the Server FIRST. MAKE sure all VLAN info is correct..BEFORE you setup VTP. Don`t do it until everyone has gone home (OVERTIME Tee Hee) make the domain name MEAN somethinghelpfull later . Check all CDP info beforehand (make sure all switches see eachother...if there supposed to). Store all Vlan info before.MAKE sure you know all about the VLAN`s first... IF you have diffrent info about different Vlan`s on different switches make these switches all SERVER`S DON`T PANIC!! HTH steve "AA my god , what `s happened to my LAN" From: Mingzhou Nie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mingzhou Nie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VTP Domain, (again) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:36:05 -0500 You can set all switchs as domain server or elect one core switch as server and others as clien. Just do set vtp domain 'name' command on each switch. You don't to do anything else. The valn name is just like an alias, it doesn't affect the functinality. You can not mannual change the VTP revision unless you reboot a VTP server switch. Hope it helps, Ming Wonkyu Lee wrote: HI All, The place where I'm working at right now has several vlans and trunking. However, from the beginning, no one turned on the VTP Domain. So whenever I put a new switch into the existing LAN, and setting up a vlan and trunking, I have to add them manually. So I'm thinking I'm enabling the VTP domain on all switches. We have 5500, 5002s, 2900XLs, 3500XLs. So here goes my question.. What is the procedure to enable the domain feature ? I know the CLI how to do it, but what should I beware of before I do it? What will happen when the vtp starts to advertising its vlan database to client switches, which have already all the infos stored in manually? Some vlans have their name on one switch(ex, TECH), but the others don't(vlan13) and would it be a problem ? Can i change a VTP revision number manually? Wonkyu Lee _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- | |Mingzhou Nie :|: :|: Customer Support Engineer :|: :|: TAC, RTP, NC .:|:.:|:. Tel/Fax: 919.392.4732 C i s c o S y s t e m s Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives,
BGP Weight
We have two connections to ISPs, but only one is running BGP at this moment (waiting for Verio to get off of their hineys.) I have "neighbor x.x.x.x weight 1000" configured for my lone peer. When I do "show ip bgp", shouldn't every single route have a weight of 1000? I have no other peers so shouldn't that weight command set all routes to 1000? In actuality, very few are set to 1000; most are set to zero. I haven't been able to figure out why this might be happening. Any ideas? Thanks, John ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
