subject:"\[Emc\-users\] 6i24 \+ 7i44 configuration"

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 16:57:37 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Here it is.

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 16:40, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribi??:

So the enables for the first 7I52S are GPIO48 and GPIO

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 16:28:56 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
against the GPU aluminum heatsink. Unfortunately I can't reposition any of
the boards so I can only isolate the bottom face of the 6i24. Next board
surely will be an ethernet one.

About the problem of not seing the gpio.000 in the parameters. Could it be
a firmware issue?

Yes please run

sudo mesaflash --device 6i24 --readhmid > pins.txt

and post the results here

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 16:17, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribi:

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:

Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 14:52:47 -0400
From: Gene Heskett 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Thursday 12 March 2020 12:23:06 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and everything
seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those pins. I can
only sense the direction changing. The only thing I can come up with
is to shift to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave stepgen 0 unused.
At least until I can solve the problem.

Theres also the possibility of a damaged output gate in the fpga. they
are only 3.3 volt fpga's, and 5 volts is enough to write their obits.

Not quite true, the FPGA I/O bits are 5V tolerant (and safe to about +7V)
What
typically damages outputs is negative inputs without current limiting. 1V
of HF
noise without some current limit will damage and short the input
protection
diodes. This is easy to generate just by touching bare FPGA pins to frame
ground
in a system with motor drives (step drives, servo drives, VFDs all
generate
significant ground bumping, often multiple volts in the frame ground)

I damaged a couple 7i90HD's until I put 7i42TA's into the setup for
overvoltage buffers, no problems since and they do give you nice screw
terminals for hookups.  My current setup has 2 blown stepgens so I have
4 enabled, useing 2 and 3 in place of 0 and 1. Thats a custom hal file
but no problem for me, and LCNC doesn't care if you diddle the hal file
to fix our stupids. :) So if there are spares, use them.

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett
()

escribi:

On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
()

escribi

I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had
gone funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru
the vice to bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together
because they never fully latched the first time.  And age of the
connector can be important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those
tend to get intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off
flush and put a new plated connector on it if its still long enough
to reach, or order both connectors and enough cable to make a new
one that will reach.

Hello again,

I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with
the 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing
with or without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I
have the 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is
normal. And also, I can't sense any pulses comming out of
stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is working ok.

 I'm I missing something?

Thank you!

El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
()

escribi:

Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one
is these iso
files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so
I don't have to go through the whole update thing every time I
want to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?

Regards

Andrew

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy

wrote:

They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put
them together mes=
sed up.
All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run
linuxcnc.

They

c=
an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one
has reported any=
 major issues.
Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the

appropriate

pa=
ge, read that and download.=20

Composed with my Crayons=20

On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia

wrote:

=20
The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better
latency

than

the K=3D
ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite res

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Here it is.

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 16:40, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribió:

> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 16:28:56 -0300
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"  >
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > Well, the only place where the 6i24 pins could've made contact is
> against the GPU aluminum heatsink. Unfortunately I can't reposition any of
> the boards so I can only isolate the bottom face of the 6i24. Next board
> surely will be an ethernet one.
>
> >About the problem of not seing the gpio.000 in the parameters. Could it be
> >a firmware issue?
>
> Yes please run
>
> sudo mesaflash --device 6i24 --readhmid > pins.txt
>
> and post the results here
>
> El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 16:17, Peter C. Wallace ()
> escribiÿÿ:
>
> > On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 14:52:47 -0400
> > > From: Gene Heskett 
> > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > > 
> > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> > >
> > > On Thursday 12 March 2020 12:23:06 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and everything
> > > seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those pins. I can
> > > only sense the direction changing. The only thing I can come up with
> > > is to shift to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave stepgen 0 unused.
> > > At least until I can solve the problem.
> >
> > >Theres also the possibility of a damaged output gate in the fpga. they
> > >are only 3.3 volt fpga's, and 5 volts is enough to write their obits.
> >
> > Not quite true, the FPGA I/O bits are 5V tolerant (and safe to about +7V)
> > What
> > typically damages outputs is negative inputs without current limiting. 1V
> > of HF
> > noise without some current limit will damage and short the input
> > protection
> > diodes. This is easy to generate just by touching bare FPGA pins to frame
> > ground
> > in a system with motor drives (step drives, servo drives, VFDs all
> > generate
> > significant ground bumping, often multiple volts in the frame ground)
> >
> >
> > >I damaged a couple 7i90HD's until I put 7i42TA's into the setup for
> > >overvoltage buffers, no problems since and they do give you nice screw
> > >terminals for hookups.  My current setup has 2 blown stepgens so I have
> > >4 enabled, useing 2 and 3 in place of 0 and 1. Thats a custom hal file
> > >but no problem for me, and LCNC doesn't care if you diddle the hal file
> > >to fix our stupids. :) So if there are spares, use them.
> >
> > > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett
> > > ()
> > >
> > > escribi:
> > > > On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> > > > > I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
> > > > >
> > > > > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > > > ()
> > > > >
> > > > > escribi
> > > >
> > > > I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had
> > > > gone funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru
> > > > the vice to bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together
> > > > because they never fully latched the first time.  And age of the
> > > > connector can be important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those
> > > > tend to get intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off
> > > > flush and put a new plated connector on it if its still long enough
> > > > to reach, or order both connectors and enough cable to make a new
> > > > one that will reach.
> > > >
> > > > > > Hello again,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with
> > > > > > the 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing
> > > > > > with or without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I
> > > > > > have the 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is
> > > > > > normal. And also, I can't sen

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:


Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 16:28:56 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Well, the only place where the 6i24 pins could've made contact is

against the GPU aluminum heatsink. Unfortunately I can't reposition any of
the boards so I can only isolate the bottom face of the 6i24. Next board
surely will be an ethernet one.


About the problem of not seing the gpio.000 in the parameters. Could it be
a firmware issue?


Yes please run

sudo mesaflash --device 6i24 --readhmid > pins.txt

and post the results here

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 16:17, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribi??:


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:

> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 14:52:47 -0400
> From: Gene Heskett 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>
> On Thursday 12 March 2020 12:23:06 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

> Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and everything
> seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those pins. I can
> only sense the direction changing. The only thing I can come up with
> is to shift to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave stepgen 0 unused.
> At least until I can solve the problem.

>Theres also the possibility of a damaged output gate in the fpga. they
>are only 3.3 volt fpga's, and 5 volts is enough to write their obits.

Not quite true, the FPGA I/O bits are 5V tolerant (and safe to about +7V)
What
typically damages outputs is negative inputs without current limiting. 1V
of HF
noise without some current limit will damage and short the input
protection
diodes. This is easy to generate just by touching bare FPGA pins to frame
ground
in a system with motor drives (step drives, servo drives, VFDs all
generate
significant ground bumping, often multiple volts in the frame ground)


>I damaged a couple 7i90HD's until I put 7i42TA's into the setup for
>overvoltage buffers, no problems since and they do give you nice screw
>terminals for hookups.  My current setup has 2 blown stepgens so I have
>4 enabled, useing 2 and 3 in place of 0 and 1. Thats a custom hal file
>but no problem for me, and LCNC doesn't care if you diddle the hal file
>to fix our stupids. :) So if there are spares, use them.

> El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett
> ()
>
> escribi:
> > On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> > > I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
> > >
> > > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > ()
> > >
> > > escribi
> >
> > I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had
> > gone funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru
> > the vice to bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together
> > because they never fully latched the first time.  And age of the
> > connector can be important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those
> > tend to get intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off
> > flush and put a new plated connector on it if its still long enough
> > to reach, or order both connectors and enough cable to make a new
> > one that will reach.
> >
> > > > Hello again,
> > > >
> > > > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with
> > > > the 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing
> > > > with or without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I
> > > > have the 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is
> > > > normal. And also, I can't sense any pulses comming out of
> > > > stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is working ok.
> > > >
> > > >  I'm I missing something?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!
> > > >
> > > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
> > > > ()
> > > >
> > > > escribi:
> > > >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one
> > > >> is these iso
> > > >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so
> > > >> I don't have to go through the whole update thing every time I
> > > >> want to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> Andrew
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Mu

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Well, the only place where the 6i24 pins could've made contact is
against the GPU aluminum heatsink. Unfortunately I can't reposition any of
the boards so I can only isolate the bottom face of the 6i24. Next board
surely will be an ethernet one.

About the problem of not seing the gpio.000 in the parameters. Could it be
a firmware issue?

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 16:17, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribió:

> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 14:52:47 -0400
> > From: Gene Heskett 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > On Thursday 12 March 2020 12:23:06 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and everything
> > seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those pins. I can
> > only sense the direction changing. The only thing I can come up with
> > is to shift to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave stepgen 0 unused.
> > At least until I can solve the problem.
>
> >Theres also the possibility of a damaged output gate in the fpga. they
> >are only 3.3 volt fpga's, and 5 volts is enough to write their obits.
>
> Not quite true, the FPGA I/O bits are 5V tolerant (and safe to about +7V)
> What
> typically damages outputs is negative inputs without current limiting. 1V
> of HF
> noise without some current limit will damage and short the input
> protection
> diodes. This is easy to generate just by touching bare FPGA pins to frame
> ground
> in a system with motor drives (step drives, servo drives, VFDs all
> generate
> significant ground bumping, often multiple volts in the frame ground)
>
>
> >I damaged a couple 7i90HD's until I put 7i42TA's into the setup for
> >overvoltage buffers, no problems since and they do give you nice screw
> >terminals for hookups.  My current setup has 2 blown stepgens so I have
> >4 enabled, useing 2 and 3 in place of 0 and 1. Thats a custom hal file
> >but no problem for me, and LCNC doesn't care if you diddle the hal file
> >to fix our stupids. :) So if there are spares, use them.
>
> > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett
> > ()
> >
> > escribiяя:
> > > On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> > > > I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
> > > >
> > > > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > > ()
> > > >
> > > > escribiяя
> > >
> > > I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had
> > > gone funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru
> > > the vice to bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together
> > > because they never fully latched the first time.  And age of the
> > > connector can be important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those
> > > tend to get intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off
> > > flush and put a new plated connector on it if its still long enough
> > > to reach, or order both connectors and enough cable to make a new
> > > one that will reach.
> > >
> > > > > Hello again,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with
> > > > > the 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing
> > > > > with or without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I
> > > > > have the 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is
> > > > > normal. And also, I can't sense any pulses comming out of
> > > > > stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is working ok.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I'm I missing something?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you!
> > > > >
> > > > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
> > > > > ()
> > > > >
> > > > > escribiяя:
> > > > >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one
> > > > >> is these iso
> > > > >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so
> > > > >> I don't have to go through the whole update thing every time I
> > > > >> want to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Andrew
> > > > >>
> > >

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett

On Thursday 12 March 2020 15:15:14 Peter C. Wallace wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 14:52:47 -0400
> > From: Gene Heskett 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > On Thursday 12 March 2020 12:23:06 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> >
> > Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and
> > everything seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those
> > pins. I can only sense the direction changing. The only thing I can
> > come up with is to shift to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave
> > stepgen 0 unused. At least until I can solve the problem.
> >
> >Theres also the possibility of a damaged output gate in the fpga.
> > they are only 3.3 volt fpga's, and 5 volts is enough to write their
> > obits.
>
> Not quite true, the FPGA I/O bits are 5V tolerant (and safe to about
> +7V) What typically damages outputs is negative inputs without current
> limiting. 1V of HF noise without some current limit will damage and
> short the input protection diodes. This is easy to generate just by
> touching bare FPGA pins to frame ground in a system with motor drives
> (step drives, servo drives, VFDs all generate significant ground
> bumping, often multiple volts in the frame ground)
>
And at the time I was having a hell of a time with noise because I didn't 
single point the grounding, had noise up to 100+ MHz, and 40 volts 
either side of the DC level, which I did the single point bolt at the 
same time I put in the triplet of 7i42TA's.  Slow learner=me I guess.

> >I damaged a couple 7i90HD's until I put 7i42TA's into the setup for
> >overvoltage buffers, no problems since and they do give you nice
> > screw terminals for hookups.  My current setup has 2 blown stepgens
> > so I have 4 enabled, useing 2 and 3 in place of 0 and 1. Thats a
> > custom hal file but no problem for me, and LCNC doesn't care if you
> > diddle the hal file to fix our stupids. :) So if there are spares,
> > use them.
> >
> > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett
> > ()
> >
> > escribiÿÿ:
> > > On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> > > > I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
> > > >
> > > > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > > ()
> > > >
> > > > escribiÿÿ
> > >
> > > I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had
> > > gone funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru
> > > the vice to bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together
> > > because they never fully latched the first time.  And age of the
> > > connector can be important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those
> > > tend to get intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector
> > > off flush and put a new plated connector on it if its still long
> > > enough to reach, or order both connectors and enough cable to make
> > > a new one that will reach.
> > >
> > > > > Hello again,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with
> > > > > the 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin
> > > > > changing with or without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on
> > > > > 0 since I have the 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if
> > > > > this is normal. And also, I can't sense any pulses comming out
> > > > > of stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is working ok.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I'm I missing something?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you!
> > > > >
> > > > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
> > > > > ()
> > > > >
> > > > > escribiÿÿ:
> > > > >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take
> > > > >> one is these iso
> > > > >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB
> > > > >> so I don't have to go through the whole update thing every
> > > > >> time I want to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Andrew
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Gene Heskett wrote:

Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 14:52:47 -0400
From: Gene Heskett 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Thursday 12 March 2020 12:23:06 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and everything
seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those pins. I can
only sense the direction changing. The only thing I can come up with
is to shift to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave stepgen 0 unused.
At least until I can solve the problem.

Theres also the possibility of a damaged output gate in the fpga. they 
are only 3.3 volt fpga's, and 5 volts is enough to write their obits.

Not quite true, the FPGA I/O bits are 5V tolerant (and safe to about +7V) What 
typically damages outputs is negative inputs without current limiting. 1V of HF 
noise without some current limit will damage and short the input protection 
diodes. This is easy to generate just by touching bare FPGA pins to frame ground 
in a system with motor drives (step drives, servo drives, VFDs all generate 
significant ground bumping, often multiple volts in the frame ground)

I damaged a couple 7i90HD's until I put 7i42TA's into the setup for 
overvoltage buffers, no problems since and they do give you nice screw 
terminals for hookups.  My current setup has 2 blown stepgens so I have 
4 enabled, useing 2 and 3 in place of 0 and 1. Thats a custom hal file 
but no problem for me, and LCNC doesn't care if you diddle the hal file 
to fix our stupids. :) So if there are spares, use them.

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett
()

escribi??:
> On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> > I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
> >
> > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > ()
> >
> > escribi??
>
> I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had
> gone funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru
> the vice to bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together
> because they never fully latched the first time.  And age of the
> connector can be important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those
> tend to get intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off
> flush and put a new plated connector on it if its still long enough
> to reach, or order both connectors and enough cable to make a new
> one that will reach.
>
> > > Hello again,
> > >
> > > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with
> > > the 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing
> > > with or without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I
> > > have the 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is
> > > normal. And also, I can't sense any pulses comming out of
> > > stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is working ok.
> > >
> > >  I'm I missing something?
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
> > > ()
> > >
> > > escribi??:
> > >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one
> > >> is these iso
> > >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so
> > >> I don't have to go through the whole update thing every time I
> > >> want to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy
> > >> 
> > >>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put
> > >> > them together mes=
> > >> > sed up.
> > >> > All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run
> > >> > linuxcnc.
> > >>
> > >> They
> > >>
> > >> > c=
> > >> > an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one
> > >> > has reported any=
> > >> >  major issues.
> > >> > Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the
> > >>
> > >> appropriate
> > >>
> > >> > pa=
> > >> > ge, read that and download.=20
> > >> >
> > >> > Composed with my Crayons=20
> > >> >
> > >> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > >> > 
> > >> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >>=20

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett

On Thursday 12 March 2020 12:23:06 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

> Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and everything
> seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those pins. I can
> only sense the direction changing. The only thing I can come up with
> is to shift to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave stepgen 0 unused.
> At least until I can solve the problem.

Theres also the possibility of a damaged output gate in the fpga. they 
are only 3.3 volt fpga's, and 5 volts is enough to write their obits.

I damaged a couple 7i90HD's until I put 7i42TA's into the setup for 
overvoltage buffers, no problems since and they do give you nice screw 
terminals for hookups.  My current setup has 2 blown stepgens so I have 
4 enabled, useing 2 and 3 in place of 0 and 1. Thats a custom hal file 
but no problem for me, and LCNC doesn't care if you diddle the hal file 
to fix our stupids. :) So if there are spares, use them.

> El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett
> ()
>
> escribió:
> > On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> > > I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
> > >
> > > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > ()
> > >
> > > escribió
> >
> > I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had
> > gone funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru
> > the vice to bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together
> > because they never fully latched the first time.  And age of the
> > connector can be important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those
> > tend to get intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off
> > flush and put a new plated connector on it if its still long enough
> > to reach, or order both connectors and enough cable to make a new
> > one that will reach.
> >
> > > > Hello again,
> > > >
> > > > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with
> > > > the 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing
> > > > with or without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I
> > > > have the 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is
> > > > normal. And also, I can't sense any pulses comming out of
> > > > stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is working ok.
> > > >
> > > >  I'm I missing something?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!
> > > >
> > > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
> > > > ()
> > > >
> > > > escribió:
> > > >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one
> > > >> is these iso
> > > >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so
> > > >> I don't have to go through the whole update thing every time I
> > > >> want to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> Andrew
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy
> > > >> 
> > > >>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put
> > > >> > them together mes=
> > > >> > sed up.
> > > >> > All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run
> > > >> > linuxcnc.
> > > >>
> > > >> They
> > > >>
> > > >> > c=
> > > >> > an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one
> > > >> > has reported any=
> > > >> >  major issues.
> > > >> > Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the
> > > >>
> > > >> appropriate
> > > >>
> > > >> > pa=
> > > >> > ge, read that and download.=20
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Composed with my Crayons=20
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > >> > 
> > > >> >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >>=20
> > > >> > >> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better
> > > >> > >> latency
> > > >>
> > > >> than
> > > >>
> > > >> > >> the K=3D
> > > >> > >> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is
> > > >> > >> next and XFCE
> > > >>
> > > >> is
> > > >>
> > > >> > >> the l=3D
> > > >> > >> ightest of the three.=3D20
> > > >> > >> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what
> > > >> > >> machine or mother=3D
> > > >> > >> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >=20
> > > >> > >=20
> > > >> > > I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't
> > > >> > > wan to use
> > > >>
> > > >> the
> > > >>
> > > >> > > onboard just in case it increases the latency. The
> > > >> > > microprocessor is
> > > >>
> > > >> an
> > > >>
> > > >> > > AMD  A4 4000.
> > > >> > >=20
> > > >> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ( > > >> > om>)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > escribi=C3=B3:
> > > >> > >=20
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> Why?
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
> > > >> > >>>=20
> > > >>
> > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mi
> > > >>nt-i so-wi=
> > > >>
> > > >> > th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> > > >> > <
> > > >>
> > > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mi
> > > >>nt-i so-wi=th-rt

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:


Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 15:31:38 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Well I'm suspecting this could be a firmware issue. I can't see the
gpio.000 in the parameters list to change it's state to make it an output.
I tried this to see if I'm able to activate the /TX3BENA. All the other
step-gens are working fine it seems (I've only tested the three I need).

I'm going to try flashing again the 6i24 but I doubt that could solve the
problem.


If the firmware loads, reflashing will not help (if it loads it means the 
firmware has a valid CRC)


What does

sudo mesaflash --device 6I24 --readhmid

report?



Please let me know if there's something I can try.

Thanks!

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 13:23, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribi??:



Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and everything
seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those pins. I can only
sense the direction changing. The only thing I can come up with is to shift
to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave stepgen 0 unused. At least until I
can solve the problem.

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett ()
escribi??:


On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

> I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
>
> El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> ()
>
> escribi??
> :
I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had gone
funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru the vice to
bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together because they
never fully latched the first time.  And age of the connector can be
important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those tend to get
intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off flush and put a
new plated connector on it if its still long enough to reach, or order
both connectors and enough cable to make a new one that will reach.

> > Hello again,
> >
> > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with the
> > 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing with or
> > without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I have the
> > 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is normal. And also,
> > I can't sense any pulses comming out of stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is
> > working ok.
> >
> >  I'm I missing something?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
> > ()
> >
> > escribi??:
> >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one is
> >> these iso
> >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so I
> >> don't have to go through the whole update thing every time I want
> >> to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy
> >> 
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >> > They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put them
> >> > together mes=
> >> > sed up.
> >> > All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run
> >> > linuxcnc.
> >>
> >> They
> >>
> >> > c=
> >> > an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one has
> >> > reported any=
> >> >  major issues.
> >> > Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the
> >>
> >> appropriate
> >>
> >> > pa=
> >> > ge, read that and download.=20
> >> >
> >> > Composed with my Crayons=20
> >> >
> >> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>=20
> >> > >> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better
> >> > >> latency
> >>
> >> than
> >>
> >> > >> the K=3D
> >> > >> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next
> >> > >> and XFCE
> >>
> >> is
> >>
> >> > >> the l=3D
> >> > >> ightest of the three.=3D20
> >> > >> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what
> >> > >> machine or mother=3D
> >> > >> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> >> > >
> >> >

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Well I'm suspecting this could be a firmware issue. I can't see the
gpio.000 in the parameters list to change it's state to make it an output.
I tried this to see if I'm able to activate the /TX3BENA. All the other
step-gens are working fine it seems (I've only tested the three I need).

I'm going to try flashing again the 6i24 but I doubt that could solve the
problem.

Please let me know if there's something I can try.

Thanks!

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 13:23, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió:

> Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and everything
> seems to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those pins. I can only
> sense the direction changing. The only thing I can come up with is to shift
> to stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave stepgen 0 unused. At least until I
> can solve the problem.
>
> El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett ()
> escribió:
>
>> On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>>
>> > I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
>> >
>> > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
>> > ()
>> >
>> > escribió
>> > :
>> I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had gone
>> funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru the vice to
>> bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together because they
>> never fully latched the first time.  And age of the connector can be
>> important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those tend to get
>> intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off flush and put a
>> new plated connector on it if its still long enough to reach, or order
>> both connectors and enough cable to make a new one that will reach.
>>
>> > > Hello again,
>> > >
>> > > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with the
>> > > 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing with or
>> > > without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I have the
>> > > 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is normal. And also,
>> > > I can't sense any pulses comming out of stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is
>> > > working ok.
>> > >
>> > >  I'm I missing something?
>> > >
>> > > Thank you!
>> > >
>> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
>> > > ()
>> > >
>> > > escribió:
>> > >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one is
>> > >> these iso
>> > >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so I
>> > >> don't have to go through the whole update thing every time I want
>> > >> to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
>> > >>
>> > >> Regards
>> > >>
>> > >> Andrew
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy
>> > >> 
>> > >>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put them
>> > >> > together mes=
>> > >> > sed up.
>> > >> > All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run
>> > >> > linuxcnc.
>> > >>
>> > >> They
>> > >>
>> > >> > c=
>> > >> > an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one has
>> > >> > reported any=
>> > >> >  major issues.
>> > >> > Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the
>> > >>
>> > >> appropriate
>> > >>
>> > >> > pa=
>> > >> > ge, read that and download.=20
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Composed with my Crayons=20
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia
>> > >> > 
>> > >> >
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> > >>=20
>> > >> > >> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better
>> > >> > >> latency
>> > >>
>> > >> than
>> > >>
>> > >> > >> the K=3D
>> > >> > >> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next
>> > >> > >> and XFCE
>> > >>
>> > >> is
>> > >>
>> > >> > >> the l=3D
>> > >> > >> ightest of the three.=3D20
>> > >> > >> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what
>> > >> > >> machine or mother=3D
>> > >> > >> board specs have you got at your disposal?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >=20
>> > >> > >=20
>> > >> > > I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't wan
>> > >> > > to use
>> > >>
>> > >> the
>> > >>
>> > >> > > onboard just in case it increases the latency. The
>> > >> > > microprocessor is
>> > >>
>> > >> an
>> > >>
>> > >> > > AMD  A4 4000.
>> > >> > >=20
>> > >> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia
>> > >> >
>> > >> > (> > >> > om>)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > escribi=C3=B3:
>> > >> > >=20
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> Why?
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
>> > >> > >>>=20
>> > >>
>> > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-i
>> > >>so-wi=
>> > >>
>> > >> > th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
>> > >> > <
>> > >>
>> > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-i
>> > >>so-wi=th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
>> > >>
>> > >> > >>=20
>> > >> > >>=20
>> > >> > >> I tried the one on the link to the other thread because the
>> > >> > >> ones
>> > >>
>> > >> shared
>> > >>
>> > >> > o=
>> > >> > n
>> > >> >
>> >

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Well, I checked the cable for continuity on those pins and everything seems
to be ok. I still can't output pulses from those pins. I can only sense the
direction changing. The only thing I can come up with is to shift to
stepgen 1 and 2 for X and Z and leave stepgen 0 unused. At least until I
can solve the problem.

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 11:03, Gene Heskett ()
escribió:

> On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
> >
> > El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > ()
> >
> > escribió
> > :
> I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had gone
> funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru the vice to
> bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together because they
> never fully latched the first time.  And age of the connector can be
> important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those tend to get
> intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off flush and put a
> new plated connector on it if its still long enough to reach, or order
> both connectors and enough cable to make a new one that will reach.
>
> > > Hello again,
> > >
> > > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with the
> > > 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing with or
> > > without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I have the
> > > 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is normal. And also,
> > > I can't sense any pulses comming out of stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is
> > > working ok.
> > >
> > >  I'm I missing something?
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
> > > ()
> > >
> > > escribió:
> > >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one is
> > >> these iso
> > >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so I
> > >> don't have to go through the whole update thing every time I want
> > >> to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Andrew
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy
> > >> 
> > >>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put them
> > >> > together mes=
> > >> > sed up.
> > >> > All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run
> > >> > linuxcnc.
> > >>
> > >> They
> > >>
> > >> > c=
> > >> > an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one has
> > >> > reported any=
> > >> >  major issues.
> > >> > Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the
> > >>
> > >> appropriate
> > >>
> > >> > pa=
> > >> > ge, read that and download.=20
> > >> >
> > >> > Composed with my Crayons=20
> > >> >
> > >> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > >> > 
> > >> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >>=20
> > >> > >> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better
> > >> > >> latency
> > >>
> > >> than
> > >>
> > >> > >> the K=3D
> > >> > >> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next
> > >> > >> and XFCE
> > >>
> > >> is
> > >>
> > >> > >> the l=3D
> > >> > >> ightest of the three.=3D20
> > >> > >> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what
> > >> > >> machine or mother=3D
> > >> > >> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >=20
> > >> > >=20
> > >> > > I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't wan
> > >> > > to use
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >> > > onboard just in case it increases the latency. The
> > >> > > microprocessor is
> > >>
> > >> an
> > >>
> > >> > > AMD  A4 4000.
> > >> > >=20
> > >> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > >> >
> > >> > ( > >> > om>)
> > >> >
> > >> > > escribi=C3=B3:
> > >> > >=20
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Why?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
> > >> > >>>=20
> > >>
> > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-i
> > >>so-wi=
> > >>
> > >> > th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> > >> > <
> > >>
> > >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-i
> > >>so-wi=th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> > >>
> > >> > >>=20
> > >> > >>=20
> > >> > >> I tried the one on the link to the other thread because the
> > >> > >> ones
> > >>
> > >> shared
> > >>
> > >> > o=
> > >> > n
> > >> >
> > >> > >> drive are meant to be used as live cd for testing, at least
> > >> > >> that's
> > >>
> > >> what
> > >>
> > >> > i=
> > >> > t
> > >> >
> > >> > >> says there. But I can give it a try after work. Let me know if
> > >> > >> I
> > >>
> > >> missed
> > >>
> > >> > >> something.
> > >> > >>=20
> > >> > >> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:13, Robert Murphy (<
> > >>
> > >> robert.mur...@gmx.com
> > >>
> > >> > >)=
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> escribi=C3=B3:
> > >> > >>=20
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better
> > >> > >>> latency
> > >>
> > >> than
> > >>
> > >> > >>> the K=3D
> > >> > >>> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hung

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett

On Thursday 12 March 2020 08:53:39 Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

> I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.
>
> El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia
> ()
>
> escribió
> : 
I was gonna suggest that, Leonardo, I've had flat cables that had gone 
funkity in just a year because they needed another trip thru the vice to 
bring the crimps and the idc connectors fully together because they 
never fully latched the first time.  And age of the connector can be 
important if its not visibly gold flashed. Those tend to get 
intermittent in 5 to 10 years. Cut the old connector off flush and put a 
new plated connector on it if its still long enough to reach, or order 
both connectors and enough cable to make a new one that will reach.

> > Hello again,
> >
> > I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with the
> > 7i52s on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing with or
> > without /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I have the
> > 7i52s on P2 of the 6i24), I don't know if this is normal. And also,
> > I can't sense any pulses comming out of stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is
> > working ok.
> >
> >  I'm I missing something?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck
> > ()
> >
> > escribió:
> >> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one is
> >> these iso
> >> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so I
> >> don't have to go through the whole update thing every time I want
> >> to install linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy
> >> 
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >> > They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put them
> >> > together mes=
> >> > sed up.
> >> > All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run
> >> > linuxcnc.
> >>
> >> They
> >>
> >> > c=
> >> > an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one has
> >> > reported any=
> >> >  major issues.
> >> > Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the
> >>
> >> appropriate
> >>
> >> > pa=
> >> > ge, read that and download.=20
> >> >
> >> > Composed with my Crayons=20
> >> >
> >> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>=20
> >> > >> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better
> >> > >> latency
> >>
> >> than
> >>
> >> > >> the K=3D
> >> > >> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next
> >> > >> and XFCE
> >>
> >> is
> >>
> >> > >> the l=3D
> >> > >> ightest of the three.=3D20
> >> > >> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what
> >> > >> machine or mother=3D
> >> > >> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> >> > >
> >> > >=20
> >> > >=20
> >> > > I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't wan
> >> > > to use
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >> > > onboard just in case it increases the latency. The
> >> > > microprocessor is
> >>
> >> an
> >>
> >> > > AMD  A4 4000.
> >> > >=20
> >> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia
> >> >
> >> > ( >> > om>)
> >> >
> >> > > escribi=C3=B3:
> >> > >=20
> >> > >
> >> > >> Why?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
> >> > >>>=20
> >>
> >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-i
> >>so-wi=
> >>
> >> > th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> >> > <
> >>
> >> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-i
> >>so-wi=th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> >>
> >> > >>=20
> >> > >>=20
> >> > >> I tried the one on the link to the other thread because the
> >> > >> ones
> >>
> >> shared
> >>
> >> > o=
> >> > n
> >> >
> >> > >> drive are meant to be used as live cd for testing, at least
> >> > >> that's
> >>
> >> what
> >>
> >> > i=
> >> > t
> >> >
> >> > >> says there. But I can give it a try after work. Let me know if
> >> > >> I
> >>
> >> missed
> >>
> >> > >> something.
> >> > >>=20
> >> > >> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:13, Robert Murphy (<
> >>
> >> robert.mur...@gmx.com
> >>
> >> > >)=
> >> > >
> >> > >> escribi=C3=B3:
> >> > >>=20
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better
> >> > >>> latency
> >>
> >> than
> >>
> >> > >>> the K=3D
> >> > >>> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next
> >> > >>> and
> >>
> >> XFCE is
> >>
> >> > >>> the l=3D
> >> > >>> ightest of the three.=3D20
> >> > >>> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what
> >> > >>> machine
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> > >>> mother=3D
> >> > >>> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> >> > >>>=20
> >> > >>> Composed with my Crayons=3D20
> >> > >>>=20
> >> > >>>
> >> > > On 10 Mar 2020, at 02:10, andy pugh 
> >> > > wrote: =3D20
> >> > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia <
> >> >
> >> > ldmarsag...@gmail.com=
> >> >
> >> > >>> w=3D
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> rote:
> >> > > =3D20
> >> > > I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following
> >> > > th

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

I'm going to check the flat cable, that I'm missing.

El jue., 12 mar. 2020 a las 9:48, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> Hello again,
>
> I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with the 7i52s
> on stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing with or without
> /TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I have the 7i52s on P2 of the
> 6i24), I don't know if this is normal. And also, I can't sense any pulses
> comming out of stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is working ok.
>
>  I'm I missing something?
>
> Thank you!
>
> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck ()
> escribió:
>
>> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one is these
>> iso
>> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so I don't
>> have to go through the whole update thing every time I want to install
>> linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put them together
>> > mes=
>> > sed up.
>> > All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run linuxcnc.
>> They
>> > c=
>> > an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one has reported
>> > any=
>> >  major issues.
>> > Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the
>> appropriate
>> > pa=
>> > ge, read that and download.=20
>> >
>> > Composed with my Crayons=20
>> >
>> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >>=20
>> > >> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency
>> than
>> > >> the K=3D
>> > >> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE
>> is
>> > >> the l=3D
>> > >> ightest of the three.=3D20
>> > >> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
>> > >> mother=3D
>> > >> board specs have you got at your disposal?
>> > >=20
>> > >=20
>> > > I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't wan to use
>> the
>> > > onboard just in case it increases the latency. The microprocessor is
>> an
>> > > AMD  A4 4000.
>> > >=20
>> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia
>> > (> > om>)
>> > > escribi=C3=B3:
>> > >=20
>> > >> Why?
>> > >>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
>> > >>>=20
>> > >>>
>> >
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=
>> > th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
>> > <
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
>> >
>> > >>=20
>> > >>=20
>> > >> I tried the one on the link to the other thread because the ones
>> shared
>> > o=
>> > n
>> > >> drive are meant to be used as live cd for testing, at least that's
>> what
>> > i=
>> > t
>> > >> says there. But I can give it a try after work. Let me know if I
>> missed
>> > >> something.
>> > >>=20
>> > >> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:13, Robert Murphy (<
>> robert.mur...@gmx.com
>> > >)=
>> >
>> > >> escribi=C3=B3:
>> > >>=20
>> > >>> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency
>> than
>> > >>> the K=3D
>> > >>> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and
>> XFCE is
>> > >>> the l=3D
>> > >>> ightest of the three.=3D20
>> > >>> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine
>> or
>> > >>> mother=3D
>> > >>> board specs have you got at your disposal?
>> > >>>=20
>> > >>> Composed with my Crayons=3D20
>> > >>>=20
>> > > On 10 Mar 2020, at 02:10, andy pugh  wrote:
>> > > =3D20
>> > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia <
>> > ldmarsag...@gmail.com=
>> > >
>> > >>> w=3D
>> > >>> rote:
>> > > =3D20
>> > > I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following the
>> > >>> instructio=3D
>> > >>> ns
>> > > here :
>> > >=20
>> > >>>
>> >
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux=
>> > -=3D
>> > <
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux=-=3D
>> >
>> > >>> mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
>> > >>> <
>> >
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linu=
>> > x-=3Dmint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
>> > <
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linu=x-=3Dmint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
>> >
>> > >
>> >  =3D20
>> >  Why?
>> >  =3D20
>> >  The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
>> >  =3D20
>> > =20
>> > >>>
>> >
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=
>> > th=3D
>> > <
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=th=3D
>> >
>> > >>> -rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
>> > >>> <
>> >
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-w=
>> > ith=3D-rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
>> > <
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-w=ith=3D-rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
>> >
>> > >
>> > >>

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Hello again,

I'm almost done with testing, but I have a little problem with the 7i52s on
stepgen 0. I can measure the direction pin changing with or without
/TX0BENA enabled (that is gpio 023 on 0 since I have the 7i52s on P2 of the
6i24), I don't know if this is normal. And also, I can't sense any pulses
comming out of stepgen 0, but stepgen 1 is working ok.

 I'm I missing something?

Thank you!

El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 20:33, andrew beck ()
escribió:

> Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one is these iso
> files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so I don't
> have to go through the whole update thing every time I want to install
> linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy 
> wrote:
>
> > They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put them together
> > mes=
> > sed up.
> > All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run linuxcnc.
> They
> > c=
> > an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one has reported
> > any=
> >  major issues.
> > Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the appropriate
> > pa=
> > ge, read that and download.=20
> >
> > Composed with my Crayons=20
> >
> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >>=20
> > >> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency
> than
> > >> the K=3D
> > >> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE
> is
> > >> the l=3D
> > >> ightest of the three.=3D20
> > >> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
> > >> mother=3D
> > >> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't wan to use
> the
> > > onboard just in case it increases the latency. The microprocessor is an
> > > AMD  A4 4000.
> > >=20
> > > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia
> > ( > om>)
> > > escribi=C3=B3:
> > >=20
> > >> Why?
> > >>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
> > >>>=20
> > >>>
> >
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=
> > th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> > <
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> >
> > >>=20
> > >>=20
> > >> I tried the one on the link to the other thread because the ones
> shared
> > o=
> > n
> > >> drive are meant to be used as live cd for testing, at least that's
> what
> > i=
> > t
> > >> says there. But I can give it a try after work. Let me know if I
> missed
> > >> something.
> > >>=20
> > >> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:13, Robert Murphy (<
> robert.mur...@gmx.com
> > >)=
> >
> > >> escribi=C3=B3:
> > >>=20
> > >>> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency
> than
> > >>> the K=3D
> > >>> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE
> is
> > >>> the l=3D
> > >>> ightest of the three.=3D20
> > >>> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
> > >>> mother=3D
> > >>> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Composed with my Crayons=3D20
> > >>>=20
> > > On 10 Mar 2020, at 02:10, andy pugh  wrote:
> > > =3D20
> > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia <
> > ldmarsag...@gmail.com=
> > >
> > >>> w=3D
> > >>> rote:
> > > =3D20
> > > I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following the
> > >>> instructio=3D
> > >>> ns
> > > here :
> > >=20
> > >>>
> >
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux=
> > -=3D
> > <
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux=-=3D
> >
> > >>> mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
> > >>> <
> > https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linu=
> > x-=3Dmint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
> > <
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linu=x-=3Dmint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
> >
> > >
> >  =3D20
> >  Why?
> >  =3D20
> >  The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
> >  =3D20
> > =20
> > >>>
> >
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=
> > th=3D
> > <
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=th=3D
> >
> > >>> -rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
> > >>> <
> > https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-w=
> > ith=3D-rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
> > <
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-w=ith=3D-rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
> >
> > >
> >  =3D20
> >  --=3D20
> >  atp
> >  "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> >  designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> >  lunatics."
> >  =3DE2=3D80=3D94 George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> >  =3D20
> >

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-09 Thread andrew beck

Hey just a quick question on this.  Is it possible to take one is these iso
files update to linuxcnc 2.8 and then load it all onto a USB so I don't
have to go through the whole update thing every time I want to install
linuxcnc 2.8 on mint?

Regards

Andrew

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 10:58 AM Robert Murphy  wrote:

> They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put them together
> mes=
> sed up.
> All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run linuxcnc. They
> c=
> an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one has reported
> any=
>  major issues.
> Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the appropriate
> pa=
> ge, read that and download.=20
>
> Composed with my Crayons=20
>
> On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia 
> wrote:
>
> >>=20
> >> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency than
> >> the K=3D
> >> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE is
> >> the l=3D
> >> ightest of the three.=3D20
> >> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
> >> mother=3D
> >> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> >=20
> >=20
> > I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't wan to use the
> > onboard just in case it increases the latency. The microprocessor is an
> > AMD  A4 4000.
> >=20
> > El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia
> ( om>)
> > escribi=C3=B3:
> >=20
> >> Why?
> >>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
> >>>=20
> >>>
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=
> th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> 
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> I tried the one on the link to the other thread because the ones shared
> o=
> n
> >> drive are meant to be used as live cd for testing, at least that's what
> i=
> t
> >> says there. But I can give it a try after work. Let me know if I missed
> >> something.
> >>=20
> >> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:13, Robert Murphy ( >)=
>
> >> escribi=C3=B3:
> >>=20
> >>> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency than
> >>> the K=3D
> >>> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE is
> >>> the l=3D
> >>> ightest of the three.=3D20
> >>> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
> >>> mother=3D
> >>> board specs have you got at your disposal?
> >>>=20
> >>> Composed with my Crayons=3D20
> >>>=20
> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 02:10, andy pugh  wrote:
> > =3D20
> > On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia <
> ldmarsag...@gmail.com=
> >
> >>> w=3D
> >>> rote:
> > =3D20
> > I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following the
> >>> instructio=3D
> >>> ns
> > here :
> >=20
> >>>
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux=
> -=3D
> 
> >>> mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
> >>> <
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linu=
> x-=3Dmint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
> 
> >
>  =3D20
>  Why?
>  =3D20
>  The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
>  =3D20
> =20
> >>>
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=
> th=3D
> 
> >>> -rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
> >>> <
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-w=
> ith=3D-rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
> 
> >
>  =3D20
>  --=3D20
>  atp
>  "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
>  designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
>  lunatics."
>  =3DE2=3D80=3D94 George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
>  =3D20
>  =3D20
>  ___
>  Emc-users mailing list
>  Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>> ___
> >>> Emc-users mailing list
> >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
> >>>=20
> >>=20
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> > ___
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> > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-09 Thread Robert Murphy

They are =E2=80=9Ctesting=E2=80=9D in case the guy who put them together mes=
sed up.
All they are is a std Mint ISO with what is required to run linuxcnc. They c=
an be installed and are good for a system, so far as no one has reported any=
 major issues.
Please read the first page fully, then follow the link to the appropriate pa=
ge, read that and download.=20

Composed with my Crayons=20

On 10 Mar 2020, at 04:31, Leonardo Marsaglia  wrote:

>>=20
>> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency than
>> the K=3D
>> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE is
>> the l=3D
>> ightest of the three.=3D20
>> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
>> mother=3D
>> board specs have you got at your disposal?
>=20
>=20
> I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't wan to use the
> onboard just in case it increases the latency. The microprocessor is an
> AMD  A4 4000.
>=20
> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
> escribi=C3=B3:
>=20
>> Why?
>>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
>>>=20
>>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=
th-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
>>=20
>>=20
>> I tried the one on the link to the other thread because the ones shared o=
n
>> drive are meant to be used as live cd for testing, at least that's what i=
t
>> says there. But I can give it a try after work. Let me know if I missed
>> something.
>>=20
>> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:13, Robert Murphy ()=

>> escribi=C3=B3:
>>=20
>>> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency than
>>> the K=3D
>>> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE is
>>> the l=3D
>>> ightest of the three.=3D20
>>> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
>>> mother=3D
>>> board specs have you got at your disposal?
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> On 10 Mar 2020, at 02:10, andy pugh  wrote:
> =3D20
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia 
>>> w=3D
>>> rote:
> =3D20
> I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following the
>>> instructio=3D
>>> ns
> here :
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>>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux=
-=3D
>>> mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D3D0
>>> 
 =3D20
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 =3D20
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 =3D20
=20
>>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-wi=
th=3D
>>> -rtai-and-rt?start=3D3D0
>>> 
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

>
> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency than
> the K=
> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE is
> the l=
> ightest of the three.=20
> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
> mother=
> board specs have you got at your disposal?


I'm using an ASUS A58M-5 with a PCI-Express gpu. I didn't wan to use the
onboard just in case it increases the latency. The microprocessor is an
AMD  A4 4000.

El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:27, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> Why?
>> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
>>
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with-rtai-and-rt?start=0
>
>
> I tried the one on the link to the other thread because the ones shared on
> drive are meant to be used as live cd for testing, at least that's what it
> says there. But I can give it a try after work. Let me know if I missed
> something.
>
> El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:13, Robert Murphy ()
> escribió:
>
>> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency than
>> the K=
>> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE is
>> the l=
>> ightest of the three.=20
>> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
>> mother=
>> board specs have you got at your disposal?
>>
>> Composed with my Crayons=20
>>
>> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 02:10, andy pugh  wrote:
>> >=20
>> >> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia 
>> w=
>> rote:
>> >>=20
>> >> I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following the
>> instructio=
>> ns
>> >> here :
>> >>
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux-=
>> mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D0
>> 
>> >=20
>> > Why?
>> >=20
>> > The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
>> >=20
>> >
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with=
>> -rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
>> 
>> >=20
>> > --=20
>> > atp
>> > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
>> > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
>> > lunatics."
>> > =E2=80=94 George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
>> >=20
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

>
> Why?
> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
>
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with-rtai-and-rt?start=0


I tried the one on the link to the other thread because the ones shared on
drive are meant to be used as live cd for testing, at least that's what it
says there. But I can give it a try after work. Let me know if I missed
something.

El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 14:13, Robert Murphy ()
escribió:

> The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency than
> the K=
> ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE is
> the l=
> ightest of the three.=20
> Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or
> mother=
> board specs have you got at your disposal?
>
> Composed with my Crayons=20
>
> > On 10 Mar 2020, at 02:10, andy pugh  wrote:
> >=20
> >> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia 
> w=
> rote:
> >>=20
> >> I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following the
> instructio=
> ns
> >> here :
> >>
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux-=
> mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D0
> 
> >=20
> > Why?
> >=20
> > The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
> >=20
> >
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with=
> -rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
> 
> >=20
> > --=20
> > atp
> > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> > lunatics."
> > =E2=80=94 George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> >=20
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-09 Thread Robert Murphy

The kernel in the latest ISOs, from my testing, has better latency than the K=
ona kernel. Cinnamon is quite resource hungry, MATE is next and XFCE is the l=
ightest of the three.=20
Wireless can have a negative effect . Out of interest what machine or mother=
board specs have you got at your disposal?

Composed with my Crayons=20

> On 10 Mar 2020, at 02:10, andy pugh  wrote:
>=20
>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia  w=
rote:
>>=20
>> I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following the instructio=
ns
>> here :
>> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux-=
mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=3D0
>=20
> Why?
>=20
> The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.
>=20
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with=
-rtai-and-rt?start=3D0
>=20
> --=20
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> =E2=80=94 George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-09 Thread andy pugh

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Leonardo Marsaglia  wrote:
>
> I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following the instructions
> here :
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux-mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=0

Why?

The link I gave was to ISO images for prempt-rt and rtai.

https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with-rtai-and-rt?start=0

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

I tried Cinnamon desktop and intalled the kernel following the instructions
here :
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/36822-linuxcnc-on-linux-mint-19-1-quick-and-easy-installation?start=0

linux-headers-4.16.12-rt5-kona-rt_amd64.deb
linux-image-4.16.12-rt5-kona-rt_amd64.deb

I had the same latency issues  as with Debian Stretch.

El lun., 9 mar. 2020 a las 9:10, andy pugh () escribió:

> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 11:02, Robert Murphy  wrote:
> >
> > Which version did you try ?
> >
> > The XCFE versions, which is the same desktop as Wheezy & Stretch, should
> > give better latency than the MATE versions.
>
> Also, which kernel? I was suggesting this to try the new RTAI kernel.
>
> --
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-09 Thread andy pugh

On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 11:02, Robert Murphy  wrote:
>
> Which version did you try ?
>
> The XCFE versions, which is the same desktop as Wheezy & Stretch, should
> give better latency than the MATE versions.

Also, which kernel? I was suggesting this to try the new RTAI kernel.

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-09 Thread Robert Murphy

Which version did you try ?

The XCFE versions, which is the same desktop as Wheezy & Stretch, should
give better latency than the MATE versions.

On 9/3/20 8:51 pm, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Wheezy is pretty ancient now.
You could try the preempt-rt and rtai ISOs built on Mint here:

https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with-rtai-and-rt?start=0

I tried with Mint and then LCNC last night Andy, but the latency test went
crazy as soon as I opened Firefox. I went back to Wheezy for now and I'll
continue testing some other distro to upgrade it later. The good thing is
all the boards are working fine. I only need to test the 7i52s with the
servo motors and I'm ready to switch the control of the lathe.

El dom., 8 mar. 2020 a las 13:18, andy pugh () escribió:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 02:29, Leonardo Marsaglia
wrote:

I had really high jitter when I run latency test with Debian Stretch. So

installed Wheezy with LinuxCNC 2.7.14

Wheezy is pretty ancient now.
You could try the preempt-rt and rtai ISOs built on Mint here:

https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with-rtai-and-rt?start=0

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

>
> Wheezy is pretty ancient now.
> You could try the preempt-rt and rtai ISOs built on Mint here:
>
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with-rtai-and-rt?start=0


 I tried with Mint and then LCNC last night Andy, but the latency test went
crazy as soon as I opened Firefox. I went back to Wheezy for now and I'll
continue testing some other distro to upgrade it later. The good thing is
all the boards are working fine. I only need to test the 7i52s with the
servo motors and I'm ready to switch the control of the lathe.

El dom., 8 mar. 2020 a las 13:18, andy pugh () escribió:

> On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 02:29, Leonardo Marsaglia 
> wrote:
>
> > I had really high jitter when I run latency test with Debian Stretch. So
> I
> > installed Wheezy with LinuxCNC 2.7.14
>
> Wheezy is pretty ancient now.
> You could try the preempt-rt and rtai ISOs built on Mint here:
>
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with-rtai-and-rt?start=0
>
> --
> atp
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> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2020-03-08 Thread andy pugh

On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 02:29, Leonardo Marsaglia  wrote:

> I had really high jitter when I run latency test with Debian Stretch. So I
> installed Wheezy with LinuxCNC 2.7.14

Wheezy is pretty ancient now.
You could try the preempt-rt and rtai ISOs built on Mint here:
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/38308-linux-mint-iso-with-rtai-and-rt?start=0

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 23:34:28 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

By the way, I'm feeding the field power of the 7i70 with the same power
supply that's running the PC. Could that be the problem? I did this because
it was the quickest way to test the boards.

It makes no difference where the field power comes from as long as its clean DC 
power in the right voltage range.

Peter Wallace
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 23:26:17 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

For now I'm using it via halcmd.

I had really high jitter when I run latency test with Debian Stretch. So I
installed Wheezy with LinuxCNC 2.7.14

I'm running latency test right now with several instances of glxgears
running and I get a max jitter of 7 ns on servo thread and 79000 on
base thread. But I've only been running it for 10 minutes or so. I plan to
leave like that a couple of hours to see if there's something strange.

The funny thing is, sometimes the board starts working ok and the problem
starts when I stop the thread and try to start it again.

watchdog timeouts would be caused by millisecond delays, a few 100 usec should 
not be an issue at 1 KHz.

I dont think there is any point using halcmd for this, I would use a real 
LinuxCNC configuration and watch for error messages.

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

By the way, I'm feeding the field power of the 7i70 with the same power
supply that's running the PC. Could that be the problem? I did this because
it was the quickest way to test the boards.

El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 23:26, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> For now I'm using it via halcmd.
>
> I had really high jitter when I run latency test with Debian Stretch. So I
> installed Wheezy with LinuxCNC 2.7.14
>
> I'm running latency test right now with several instances of glxgears
> running and I get a max jitter of 7 ns on servo thread and 79000 on
> base thread. But I've only been running it for 10 minutes or so. I plan to
> leave like that a couple of hours to see if there's something strange.
>
> The funny thing is, sometimes the board starts working ok and the problem
> starts when I stop the thread and try to start it again.
>
> El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 22:00, Peter C. Wallace ()
> escribió:
>
>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>>
>> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:53:45 -0300
>> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
>> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> > 
>> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>> >
>> > I tried again after a failed attempt in which the watchdog pin turned to
>> >TRUE. I manually set the pin to FALSE and unloaded all the components and
>> >restarted HAL. Now the board is working fine but I don't know what can
>> >cause that erratic behavior.
>>
>>
>> Thsi is usually a symptom of a real time issue on the host
>>
>> El sяяb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 21:45, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
>> ldmarsag...@gmail.com>)
>> escribiяя:
>>
>> > Thank you very much Peter!
>> >
>> > I succeeded making the 7i70 work, I could read inputs and it worked ok.
>> > But, when  I unloaded the configuration I couldn't make it work since.
>> >
>> > I rebooted the PC several times but it's now working anymore. The
>> hm2_pci
>> > driver is detecting the 7i70 because I can see the pins in HAL, but
>> when I
>> > start the thread to test communication, the GREEN LED flashes quickly
>> for a
>> > couple of seconds and then the RED LED turns on. The first time the
>> board
>> > worked the green led flashed at 1 hz like the manual says.
>> >
>> > I've checked the voltages and they seem ok. I'm feeding the 7i70 with 12
>> > volts and since I'm testing I'm connecting FIELD POWER to VIN.
>> >
>> > Do you know what can cause this?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > El sяяb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 14:00, Peter C. Wallace ()
>> > escribiяя:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:23:45 -0300
>> >> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
>> >> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> >> > 
>> >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>> >> >
>> >> >>> What model 6I24 do you have?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> 6i24-25
>> >>
>> >> http://freeby.mesanet.com/5i24_25r.zip
>> >>
>> >> El sb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 13:20, Peter C. Wallace (<
>> p...@mesanet.com>)
>> >> escribi:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:02:11 -0300
>> >> > > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
>> >> > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Hello Peter,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thanks for the answer as always. I'll try to change P4 to P1
>> because
>> >> in
>> >> > the
>> >> > > way I'm mounting the boards that's the simpler and less painful
>> >> solution
>> >> > to
>> >> &g

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

For now I'm using it via halcmd.

I had really high jitter when I run latency test with Debian Stretch. So I
installed Wheezy with LinuxCNC 2.7.14

I'm running latency test right now with several instances of glxgears
running and I get a max jitter of 7 ns on servo thread and 79000 on
base thread. But I've only been running it for 10 minutes or so. I plan to
leave like that a couple of hours to see if there's something strange.

The funny thing is, sometimes the board starts working ok and the problem
starts when I stop the thread and try to start it again.

El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 22:00, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribió:

> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:53:45 -0300
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"  >
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > I tried again after a failed attempt in which the watchdog pin turned to
> >TRUE. I manually set the pin to FALSE and unloaded all the components and
> >restarted HAL. Now the board is working fine but I don't know what can
> >cause that erratic behavior.
>
>
> Thsi is usually a symptom of a real time issue on the host
>
> El sяяb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 21:45, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
> ldmarsag...@gmail.com>)
> escribiяя:
>
> > Thank you very much Peter!
> >
> > I succeeded making the 7i70 work, I could read inputs and it worked ok.
> > But, when  I unloaded the configuration I couldn't make it work since.
> >
> > I rebooted the PC several times but it's now working anymore. The hm2_pci
> > driver is detecting the 7i70 because I can see the pins in HAL, but when
> I
> > start the thread to test communication, the GREEN LED flashes quickly
> for a
> > couple of seconds and then the RED LED turns on. The first time the board
> > worked the green led flashed at 1 hz like the manual says.
> >
> > I've checked the voltages and they seem ok. I'm feeding the 7i70 with 12
> > volts and since I'm testing I'm connecting FIELD POWER to VIN.
> >
> > Do you know what can cause this?
> >
> >
> >
> > El sяяb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 14:00, Peter C. Wallace ()
> > escribiяя:
> >
> >> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> >>
> >> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:23:45 -0300
> >> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> >> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >> > 
> >> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >> >
> >> >>> What model 6I24 do you have?
> >> >
> >>
> >> 6i24-25
> >>
> >> http://freeby.mesanet.com/5i24_25r.zip
> >>
> >> El sb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 13:20, Peter C. Wallace ( >)
> >> escribi:
> >>
> >> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:02:11 -0300
> >> > > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> >> > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >> > > 
> >> > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> > >
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello Peter,
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks for the answer as always. I'll try to change P4 to P1 because
> >> in
> >> > the
> >> > > way I'm mounting the boards that's the simpler and less painful
> >> solution
> >> > to
> >> > > plug the 7i52s and 7i44.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What model 6I24 do you have?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > As you can see in the picture, the 7i52s is on the top plate, and
> the
> >> > 7i44
> >> > > is placed on the bottom plate next to the motherboard. On the top
> >> plate
> >> > I'm
> >> > > mounting also the 7i70 and 7i71. So to reach the 7i52s the best for
> >> me is
> >> > > to use the P1 connector. I should have thought about this before
> >> > anyway...
> >> > >
> >> > > El sb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 12:48, Peter C. Wallace (&

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:45:21 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Thank you very much Peter!

I succeeded making the 7i70 work, I could read inputs and it worked ok.
But, when  I unloaded the configuration I couldn't make it work since.

I rebooted the PC several times but it's now working anymore. The hm2_pci
driver is detecting the 7i70 because I can see the pins in HAL, but when I
start the thread to test communication, the GREEN LED flashes quickly for a
couple of seconds and then the RED LED turns on. The first time the board
worked the green led flashed at 1 hz like the manual says.

probably the most common situation is if the card is detected and you get a 
fault later (red light) its a sserial card or host card watchdog bite.

Are you using a normal hal file and running LinuxCNC?
If so do you get any error messages?

I've checked the voltages and they seem ok. I'm feeding the 7i70 with 12
volts and since I'm testing I'm connecting FIELD POWER to VIN.

Do you know what can cause this?

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration


On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:


Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:53:45 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

I tried again after a failed attempt in which the watchdog pin turned to
TRUE. I manually set the pin to FALSE and unloaded all the components and
restarted HAL. Now the board is working fine but I don't know what can
cause that erratic behavior.



Thsi is usually a symptom of a real time issue on the host

El s??b., 7 mar. 2020 a las 21:45, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribi??:


Thank you very much Peter!

I succeeded making the 7i70 work, I could read inputs and it worked ok.
But, when  I unloaded the configuration I couldn't make it work since.

I rebooted the PC several times but it's now working anymore. The hm2_pci
driver is detecting the 7i70 because I can see the pins in HAL, but when I
start the thread to test communication, the GREEN LED flashes quickly for a
couple of seconds and then the RED LED turns on. The first time the board
worked the green led flashed at 1 hz like the manual says.

I've checked the voltages and they seem ok. I'm feeding the 7i70 with 12
volts and since I'm testing I'm connecting FIELD POWER to VIN.

Do you know what can cause this?



El s??b., 7 mar. 2020 a las 14:00, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribi??:


On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:23:45 -0300
> From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>
>>> What model 6I24 do you have?
>

6i24-25

http://freeby.mesanet.com/5i24_25r.zip

El sb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 13:20, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribi:

> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:02:11 -0300
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > Hello Peter,
> >
> > Thanks for the answer as always. I'll try to change P4 to P1 because
in
> the
> > way I'm mounting the boards that's the simpler and less painful
solution
> to
> > plug the 7i52s and 7i44.
>
>
> What model 6I24 do you have?
>
>
> >
> > As you can see in the picture, the 7i52s is on the top plate, and the
> 7i44
> > is placed on the bottom plate next to the motherboard. On the top
plate
> I'm
> > mounting also the 7i70 and 7i71. So to reach the 7i52s the best for
me is
> > to use the P1 connector. I should have thought about this before
> anyway...
> >
> > El sb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 12:48, Peter C. Wallace (<
p...@mesanet.com>)
> > escribi????:
> >
> >> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 10:20:52 -0300
> >>> From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> >>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >>> 
> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >>>
> >>> Hello again to all,
> >>
> >>> I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to
configure
> my
> >>> setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
> >>> course).
> >>>
> >>> Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output
and
> to
> >>> read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly
because I
> >>> don't do this too often.
> >>>
> >>> If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the
> bitfile
> >>> Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and
stepens
> are
> >>> distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the
> 7i52s
> >>> as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to
> use
> >>> that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next
> question.
> >>
> >> Thats because you are using a SVSTSS12_12_8_7I52SX2 configuration
setup
> >> for
> >> two 7I52S on P4 and P3 (if you just have 1 7I52S, only enable 6
stepgens
> >> and 6 encoders and the P3 connector will revert

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

I tried again after a failed attempt in which the watchdog pin turned to
TRUE. I manually set the pin to FALSE and unloaded all the components and
restarted HAL. Now the board is working fine but I don't know what can
cause that erratic behavior.

El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 21:45, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> Thank you very much Peter!
>
> I succeeded making the 7i70 work, I could read inputs and it worked ok.
> But, when  I unloaded the configuration I couldn't make it work since.
>
> I rebooted the PC several times but it's now working anymore. The hm2_pci
> driver is detecting the 7i70 because I can see the pins in HAL, but when I
> start the thread to test communication, the GREEN LED flashes quickly for a
> couple of seconds and then the RED LED turns on. The first time the board
> worked the green led flashed at 1 hz like the manual says.
>
> I've checked the voltages and they seem ok. I'm feeding the 7i70 with 12
> volts and since I'm testing I'm connecting FIELD POWER to VIN.
>
> Do you know what can cause this?
>
>
>
> El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 14:00, Peter C. Wallace ()
> escribió:
>
>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>>
>> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:23:45 -0300
>> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
>> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> > 
>> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>> >
>> >>> What model 6I24 do you have?
>> >
>>
>> 6i24-25
>>
>> http://freeby.mesanet.com/5i24_25r.zip
>>
>> El sÿÿb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 13:20, Peter C. Wallace ()
>> escribiÿÿ:
>>
>> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>> >
>> > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:02:11 -0300
>> > > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
>> > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> > > 
>> > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > >
>> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>> > >
>> > > Hello Peter,
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for the answer as always. I'll try to change P4 to P1 because
>> in
>> > the
>> > > way I'm mounting the boards that's the simpler and less painful
>> solution
>> > to
>> > > plug the 7i52s and 7i44.
>> >
>> >
>> > What model 6I24 do you have?
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > As you can see in the picture, the 7i52s is on the top plate, and the
>> > 7i44
>> > > is placed on the bottom plate next to the motherboard. On the top
>> plate
>> > I'm
>> > > mounting also the 7i70 and 7i71. So to reach the 7i52s the best for
>> me is
>> > > to use the P1 connector. I should have thought about this before
>> > anyway...
>> > >
>> > > El sb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 12:48, Peter C. Wallace (<
>> p...@mesanet.com>)
>> > > escribi:
>> > >
>> > >> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 10:20:52 -0300
>> > >>> From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
>> > >>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> > emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hello again to all,
>> > >>
>> > >>> I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to
>> configure
>> > my
>> > >>> setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
>> > >>> course).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output
>> and
>> > to
>> > >>> read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly
>> because I
>> > >>> don't do this too often.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the
>> > bitfile
>> > >>> Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and
>> stepens
>> >

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Thank you very much Peter!

I succeeded making the 7i70 work, I could read inputs and it worked ok.
But, when  I unloaded the configuration I couldn't make it work since.

I rebooted the PC several times but it's now working anymore. The hm2_pci
driver is detecting the 7i70 because I can see the pins in HAL, but when I
start the thread to test communication, the GREEN LED flashes quickly for a
couple of seconds and then the RED LED turns on. The first time the board
worked the green led flashed at 1 hz like the manual says.

I've checked the voltages and they seem ok. I'm feeding the 7i70 with 12
volts and since I'm testing I'm connecting FIELD POWER to VIN.

Do you know what can cause this?



El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 14:00, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribió:

> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:23:45 -0300
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >     
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"  >
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> >>> What model 6I24 do you have?
> >
>
> 6i24-25
>
> http://freeby.mesanet.com/5i24_25r.zip
>
> El sÿÿb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 13:20, Peter C. Wallace ()
> escribiÿÿ:
>
> > On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:02:11 -0300
> > > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > > 
> > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> > >
> > > Hello Peter,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the answer as always. I'll try to change P4 to P1 because in
> > the
> > > way I'm mounting the boards that's the simpler and less painful
> solution
> > to
> > > plug the 7i52s and 7i44.
> >
> >
> > What model 6I24 do you have?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > As you can see in the picture, the 7i52s is on the top plate, and the
> > 7i44
> > > is placed on the bottom plate next to the motherboard. On the top plate
> > I'm
> > > mounting also the 7i70 and 7i71. So to reach the 7i52s the best for me
> is
> > > to use the P1 connector. I should have thought about this before
> > anyway...
> > >
> > > El sb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 12:48, Peter C. Wallace (<
> p...@mesanet.com>)
> > > escribi:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 10:20:52 -0300
> > >>> From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > >>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > >>> 
> > >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> > emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > >>>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello again to all,
> > >>
> > >>> I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to
> configure
> > my
> > >>> setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
> > >>> course).
> > >>>
> > >>> Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output and
> > to
> > >>> read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly because
> I
> > >>> don't do this too often.
> > >>>
> > >>> If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the
> > bitfile
> > >>> Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and
> stepens
> > are
> > >>> distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the
> > 7i52s
> > >>> as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to
> > use
> > >>> that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next
> > question.
> > >>
> > >> Thats because you are using a SVSTSS12_12_8_7I52SX2 configuration
> setup
> > >> for
> > >> two 7I52S on P4 and P3 (if you just have 1 7I52S, only enable 6
> stepgens
> > >> and 6 encoders and the P3 connector will revert to just GPIO)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Is there an easy way to see the correspondence between the pins on
> the
> > >> 6i24
> > >>> and the ones on the

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration


On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:


Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:23:45 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration


What model 6I24 do you have?




6i24-25

http://freeby.mesanet.com/5i24_25r.zip

El s??b., 7 mar. 2020 a las 13:20, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribi??:


On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:02:11 -0300
> From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> Thanks for the answer as always. I'll try to change P4 to P1 because in
the
> way I'm mounting the boards that's the simpler and less painful solution
to
> plug the 7i52s and 7i44.


What model 6I24 do you have?


>
> As you can see in the picture, the 7i52s is on the top plate, and the
7i44
> is placed on the bottom plate next to the motherboard. On the top plate
I'm
> mounting also the 7i70 and 7i71. So to reach the 7i52s the best for me is
> to use the P1 connector. I should have thought about this before
anyway...
>
> El sb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 12:48, Peter C. Wallace ()
> escribi:
>
>> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 10:20:52 -0300
>>> From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>> 
>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>>>
>>> Hello again to all,
>>
>>> I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to configure
my
>>> setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
>>> course).
>>>
>>> Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output and
to
>>> read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly because I
>>> don't do this too often.
>>>
>>> If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the
bitfile
>>> Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and stepens
are
>>> distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the
7i52s
>>> as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to
use
>>> that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next
question.
>>
>> Thats because you are using a SVSTSS12_12_8_7I52SX2 configuration setup
>> for
>> two 7I52S on P4 and P3 (if you just have 1 7I52S, only enable 6 stepgens
>> and 6 encoders and the P3 connector will revert to just GPIO)
>>
>>
>>> Is there an easy way to see the correspondence between the pins on the
>> 6i24
>>> and the ones on the 7i52s ? Because if I use only 3 stepgens and 1
encoder
>>> I can see they are all in the P4 connector and I have also some free
I/Os
>>> on that connector too but I don't know how to identify them on the
7i52s
>>> other than start probing them one by one.
>>
>> You can look at the pinout file and the 7I52S manual but its simpler
than
>> that, the stepgens and encoders are simply in the 7I52S manual order,
that
>> is
>> encoders 0..5 match the manual exactly, and Step0 = TX0A, Dir0 =TX0B,
Step1
>> =TX1A, Dir1=TX1B etc etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Besides that, I need to modify the PIN file since I need the 7i52s to
be
>>> plugged to P1 connector of the 6i24 (Notice that the 6i24 has three
ports
>>> labelled P1, P3, P4). I'm downloading Xilinx ISE 14.7 to try to modify
the
>>> original file that Peter made for me.
>>
>> You can do this but I'm not sure why you would care about the 6I24
>> connector order.
>>
>>> Well, that's all for now, if you can help me a little bit I surely can
>> make
>>> all this work this weekend hopefully. I also need to try the 7i44 but I
>>> need to understand this first.
>>>
>>> Thanks as always for your help and patience!
>>
>> The 7I44 connects to P1, thats about it
>>
>>>
>>
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>>
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>>

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

>
> What model 6I24 do you have?
>

6i24-25


El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 13:20, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribió:

> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:02:11 -0300
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"  >
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > Hello Peter,
> >
> > Thanks for the answer as always. I'll try to change P4 to P1 because in
> the
> > way I'm mounting the boards that's the simpler and less painful solution
> to
> > plug the 7i52s and 7i44.
>
>
> What model 6I24 do you have?
>
>
> >
> > As you can see in the picture, the 7i52s is on the top plate, and the
> 7i44
> > is placed on the bottom plate next to the motherboard. On the top plate
> I'm
> > mounting also the 7i70 and 7i71. So to reach the 7i52s the best for me is
> > to use the P1 connector. I should have thought about this before
> anyway...
> >
> > El sяяb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 12:48, Peter C. Wallace ()
> > escribiяя:
> >
> >> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
> >>
> >>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 10:20:52 -0300
> >>> From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> >>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >>> 
> >>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >>>
> >>> Hello again to all,
> >>
> >>> I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to configure
> my
> >>> setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
> >>> course).
> >>>
> >>> Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output and
> to
> >>> read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly because I
> >>> don't do this too often.
> >>>
> >>> If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the
> bitfile
> >>> Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and stepens
> are
> >>> distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the
> 7i52s
> >>> as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to
> use
> >>> that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next
> question.
> >>
> >> Thats because you are using a SVSTSS12_12_8_7I52SX2 configuration setup
> >> for
> >> two 7I52S on P4 and P3 (if you just have 1 7I52S, only enable 6 stepgens
> >> and 6 encoders and the P3 connector will revert to just GPIO)
> >>
> >>
> >>> Is there an easy way to see the correspondence between the pins on the
> >> 6i24
> >>> and the ones on the 7i52s ? Because if I use only 3 stepgens and 1
> encoder
> >>> I can see they are all in the P4 connector and I have also some free
> I/Os
> >>> on that connector too but I don't know how to identify them on the
> 7i52s
> >>> other than start probing them one by one.
> >>
> >> You can look at the pinout file and the 7I52S manual but its simpler
> than
> >> that, the stepgens and encoders are simply in the 7I52S manual order,
> that
> >> is
> >> encoders 0..5 match the manual exactly, and Step0 = TX0A, Dir0 =TX0B,
> Step1
> >> =TX1A, Dir1=TX1B etc etc.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Besides that, I need to modify the PIN file since I need the 7i52s to
> be
> >>> plugged to P1 connector of the 6i24 (Notice that the 6i24 has three
> ports
> >>> labelled P1, P3, P4). I'm downloading Xilinx ISE 14.7 to try to modify
> the
> >>> original file that Peter made for me.
> >>
> >> You can do this but I'm not sure why you would care about the 6I24
> >> connector order.
> >>
> >>> Well, that's all for now, if you can help me a little bit I surely can
> >> make
> >>> all this work this weekend hopefully. I also need to try the 7i44 but I
> >>> need to understand this first.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks as always for your help and patience!
> >>
> >> The 7I44 connects to P1, thats about it
> >>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 13:02:11 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Hello Peter,

Thanks for the answer as always. I'll try to change P4 to P1 because in the
way I'm mounting the boards that's the simpler and less painful solution to
plug the 7i52s and 7i44.

What model 6I24 do you have?

As you can see in the picture, the 7i52s is on the top plate, and the 7i44
is placed on the bottom plate next to the motherboard. On the top plate I'm
mounting also the 7i70 and 7i71. So to reach the 7i52s the best for me is
to use the P1 connector. I should have thought about this before anyway...

El s??b., 7 mar. 2020 a las 12:48, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribi??:

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 10:20:52 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 

I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to configure my
setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
course).

Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output and to
read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly because I
don't do this too often.

If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the bitfile
Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and stepens are
distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the 7i52s
as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to use
that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next question.

Thats because you are using a SVSTSS12_12_8_7I52SX2 configuration setup
for
two 7I52S on P4 and P3 (if you just have 1 7I52S, only enable 6 stepgens
and 6 encoders and the P3 connector will revert to just GPIO)

Is there an easy way to see the correspondence between the pins on the

6i24

and the ones on the 7i52s ? Because if I use only 3 stepgens and 1 encoder
I can see they are all in the P4 connector and I have also some free I/Os
on that connector too but I don't know how to identify them on the 7i52s
other than start probing them one by one.

You can look at the pinout file and the 7I52S manual but its simpler than
that, the stepgens and encoders are simply in the 7I52S manual order, that
is
encoders 0..5 match the manual exactly, and Step0 = TX0A, Dir0 =TX0B, Step1
=TX1A, Dir1=TX1B etc etc.

Besides that, I need to modify the PIN file since I need the 7i52s to be
plugged to P1 connector of the 6i24 (Notice that the 6i24 has three ports
labelled P1, P3, P4). I'm downloading Xilinx ISE 14.7 to try to modify the
original file that Peter made for me.

You can do this but I'm not sure why you would care about the 6I24
connector order.

Well, that's all for now, if you can help me a little bit I surely can

make

all this work this weekend hopefully. I also need to try the 7i44 but I
need to understand this first.

Thanks as always for your help and patience!

The 7I44 connects to P1, thats about it

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Hello Peter,

Thanks for the answer as always. I'll try to change P4 to P1 because in the
way I'm mounting the boards that's the simpler and less painful solution to
plug the 7i52s and 7i44.

As you can see in the picture, the 7i52s is on the top plate, and the 7i44
is placed on the bottom plate next to the motherboard. On the top plate I'm
mounting also the 7i70 and 7i71. So to reach the 7i52s the best for me is
to use the P1 connector. I should have thought about this before anyway...

El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 12:48, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribió:

> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 10:20:52 -0300
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"  >
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > Hello again to all,
>
> >I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to configure my
> >setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
> >course).
> >
> >Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output and to
> >read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly because I
> >don't do this too often.
> >
> >If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the bitfile
> >Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and stepens are
> >distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the 7i52s
> >as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to use
> >that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next question.
>
> Thats because you are using a SVSTSS12_12_8_7I52SX2 configuration setup
> for
> two 7I52S on P4 and P3 (if you just have 1 7I52S, only enable 6 stepgens
> and 6 encoders and the P3 connector will revert to just GPIO)
>
>
> >Is there an easy way to see the correspondence between the pins on the
> 6i24
> >and the ones on the 7i52s ? Because if I use only 3 stepgens and 1 encoder
> >I can see they are all in the P4 connector and I have also some free I/Os
> >on that connector too but I don't know how to identify them on the 7i52s
> >other than start probing them one by one.
>
> You can look at the pinout file and the 7I52S manual but its simpler than
> that, the stepgens and encoders are simply in the 7I52S manual order, that
> is
> encoders 0..5 match the manual exactly, and Step0 = TX0A, Dir0 =TX0B, Step1
> =TX1A, Dir1=TX1B etc etc.
>
>
>
> >Besides that, I need to modify the PIN file since I need the 7i52s to be
> >plugged to P1 connector of the 6i24 (Notice that the 6i24 has three ports
> >labelled P1, P3, P4). I'm downloading Xilinx ISE 14.7 to try to modify the
> >original file that Peter made for me.
>
> You can do this but I'm not sure why you would care about the 6I24
> connector order.
>
> >Well, that's all for now, if you can help me a little bit I surely can
> make
> >all this work this weekend hopefully. I also need to try the 7i44 but I
> >need to understand this first.
> >
> >Thanks as always for your help and patience!
>
> The 7I44 connects to P1, thats about it
>
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 10:20:52 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Hello again to all,

I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to configure my
setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
course).

Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output and to
read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly because I
don't do this too often.

If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the bitfile
Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and stepens are
distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the 7i52s
as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to use
that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next question.

Thats because you are using a SVSTSS12_12_8_7I52SX2 configuration setup for 
two 7I52S on P4 and P3 (if you just have 1 7I52S, only enable 6 stepgens

and 6 encoders and the P3 connector will revert to just GPIO)

Is there an easy way to see the correspondence between the pins on the 6i24
and the ones on the 7i52s ? Because if I use only 3 stepgens and 1 encoder
I can see they are all in the P4 connector and I have also some free I/Os
on that connector too but I don't know how to identify them on the 7i52s
other than start probing them one by one.

You can look at the pinout file and the 7I52S manual but its simpler than
that, the stepgens and encoders are simply in the 7I52S manual order, that is 
encoders 0..5 match the manual exactly, and Step0 = TX0A, Dir0 =TX0B, Step1

=TX1A, Dir1=TX1B etc etc.

Besides that, I need to modify the PIN file since I need the 7i52s to be
plugged to P1 connector of the 6i24 (Notice that the 6i24 has three ports
labelled P1, P3, P4). I'm downloading Xilinx ISE 14.7 to try to modify the
original file that Peter made for me.

You can do this but I'm not sure why you would care about the 6I24 
connector order.

Well, that's all for now, if you can help me a little bit I surely can make
all this work this weekend hopefully. I also need to try the 7i44 but I
need to understand this first.

Thanks as always for your help and patience!

The 7I44 connects to P1, thats about it

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

I just found the PIN file is intended to drive two 7i52s. Sorry for that.

What I need to understand is if I can use the GPIOS left on the 6i24
through the 7i52s, and how to identify them.

El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 10:22, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> I'm attaching the dmesg output so you can see what I'm talking about.
>
> El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 10:20, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
> ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>
>> Hello again to all,
>>
>> I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to configure my
>> setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
>> course).
>>
>> Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output and to
>> read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly because I
>> don't do this too often.
>>
>> If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the bitfile
>> Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and stepens are
>> distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the 7i52s
>> as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to use
>> that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next question.
>>
>> Is there an easy way to see the correspondence between the pins on the
>> 6i24 and the ones on the 7i52s ? Because if I use only 3 stepgens and 1
>> encoder I can see they are all in the P4 connector and I have also some
>> free I/Os on that connector too but I don't know how to identify them on
>> the 7i52s other than start probing them one by one.
>>
>> Besides that, I need to modify the PIN file since I need the 7i52s to be
>> plugged to P1 connector of the 6i24 (Notice that the 6i24 has three ports
>> labelled P1, P3, P4). I'm downloading Xilinx ISE 14.7 to try to modify the
>> original file that Peter made for me.
>>
>> Well, that's all for now, if you can help me a little bit I surely can
>> make all this work this weekend hopefully. I also need to try the 7i44 but
>> I need to understand this first.
>>
>> Thanks as always for your help and patience!
>>
>> El jue., 19 dic. 2019 a las 8:54, andy pugh ()
>> escribió:
>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 22:32, Leonardo Marsaglia 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Also thanks for the source files, I'll use them to compare with the
>>> others
>>> > and try to understand better how to make my own bit files.
>>>
>>> Just to clarify (for other readers, as you probably know this). If the
>>> stepgen and encoder numbers are limited below maximum in the loadrt
>>> hm2_pci line in the HAL then their pins revert to GPIO.
>>> (But with so much smart-serial available, there is probably no reason
>>> to use them)
>>>
>>> My lathe uses a 6i24, with a 7i44 and 7i49. That leaves one spare
>>> 50-pin header. But with a 7i84 and 7i73 on the 7i44 that port is very
>>> much spare.
>>>
>>> (wandering off topic)
>>> The ultimate retrofit kit now would seem to be a combination of 7i94
>>> and STMBL drives.
>>> Ethernet out of the PC, and digital end-to-end
>>>
>>> --
>>> atp
>>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
>>> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
>>> lunatics."
>>> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
>>>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

I'm attaching the dmesg output so you can see what I'm talking about.

El sáb., 7 mar. 2020 a las 10:20, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> Hello again to all,
>
> I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to configure my
> setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
> course).
>
> Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output and to
> read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly because I
> don't do this too often.
>
> If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the bitfile
> Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and stepens are
> distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the 7i52s
> as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to use
> that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next question.
>
> Is there an easy way to see the correspondence between the pins on the
> 6i24 and the ones on the 7i52s ? Because if I use only 3 stepgens and 1
> encoder I can see they are all in the P4 connector and I have also some
> free I/Os on that connector too but I don't know how to identify them on
> the 7i52s other than start probing them one by one.
>
> Besides that, I need to modify the PIN file since I need the 7i52s to be
> plugged to P1 connector of the 6i24 (Notice that the 6i24 has three ports
> labelled P1, P3, P4). I'm downloading Xilinx ISE 14.7 to try to modify the
> original file that Peter made for me.
>
> Well, that's all for now, if you can help me a little bit I surely can
> make all this work this weekend hopefully. I also need to try the 7i44 but
> I need to understand this first.
>
> Thanks as always for your help and patience!
>
> El jue., 19 dic. 2019 a las 8:54, andy pugh ()
> escribió:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 22:32, Leonardo Marsaglia 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Also thanks for the source files, I'll use them to compare with the
>> others
>> > and try to understand better how to make my own bit files.
>>
>> Just to clarify (for other readers, as you probably know this). If the
>> stepgen and encoder numbers are limited below maximum in the loadrt
>> hm2_pci line in the HAL then their pins revert to GPIO.
>> (But with so much smart-serial available, there is probably no reason
>> to use them)
>>
>> My lathe uses a 6i24, with a 7i44 and 7i49. That leaves one spare
>> 50-pin header. But with a 7i84 and 7i73 on the 7i44 that port is very
>> much spare.
>>
>> (wandering off topic)
>> The ultimate retrofit kit now would seem to be a combination of 7i94
>> and STMBL drives.
>> Ethernet out of the PC, and digital end-to-end
>>
>> --
>> atp
>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
>> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
>> lunatics."
>> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
>>
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[  978.261733] I-pipe: head domain RTAI registered.
[  978.261741] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-5) .
[  978.261795] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs 
DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0).
[  978.261799] SYSINFO: CPUs 2, LINUX APIC IRQ 2312, TIM_FREQ 6233920, CLK_FREQ 
2992478000, CPU_FREQ 2992478000
[  978.261802] RTAI_APIC_TIMER_IPI: RTAI DEFINED 2314, VECTOR 2314; 
LINUX_APIC_TIMER_IPI: RTAI DEFINED 2312, VECTOR 2312
[  978.261805] TIMER NAME: lapic; VARIOUSLY FOUND APIC FREQs: 6233920, 6233920, 
622
[  978.269646] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, .
[  978.269685] , , kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
[  978.269689] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/6233920(Hz); default 
timing: oneshot; linear timed lists.
[  978.269692] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 
2992478000 hz.
[  978.269694] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2944 ns.
[  978.277250] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[  982.498867] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15
[  986.675658] hm2_pci: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 driver version 0.7
[  986.675700] hm2_pci: discovered 5i24 at :04:00.0
[  986.677943] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: Smart Serial Firmware Version 43
[  986.743551] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: 72 I/O Pins used:
[  986.743556] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 000 (P4-01): IOPort
[  986.743560] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 001 (P4-03): Muxed Encoder #0, pin 
Muxed A (Input)
[  986.743563] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 002 (P4-05): Muxed Encoder #0, pin 
Muxed B (Input)
[  986.743566] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 003 (P4-07): Muxed Encoder #0, pin 
Muxed Index (Input)
[  986.743569] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 004 (P4-09): Muxed Encoder #1, pin 
Muxed A (Input)
[  986.743572] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 005 (P4-11): Muxed Encoder #1, pin 
Muxed B (Input)
[  986.743575] hm2/hm2_5i24.0: IO Pin 006 (P4-13): Muxed Encoder #1, pin 
Muxed Index (Input)
[  986.743578] hm2/

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Hello again to all,

I'm reviving this discussion because I started attempting to configure my
setup to finally mount it on the machine (once it all works well off
course).

Basically I'm using the 6i24 connected to a 7i52s for step output and to
read 1 encoder. Here's where I have the first doubts, mostly because I
don't do this too often.

If I want to use the full 6 stepgens and 6 encoder inputs of the bitfile
Peter made for my 6i24 I see on the dmesg that the encoder and stepens are
distributed between P3 and P4 of the board. Is this ok? Because the 7i52s
as you know only has one 50 pin flat cable port. I'm not planning to use
that much encoders and steppers but this guides me to the next question.

Is there an easy way to see the correspondence between the pins on the 6i24
and the ones on the 7i52s ? Because if I use only 3 stepgens and 1 encoder
I can see they are all in the P4 connector and I have also some free I/Os
on that connector too but I don't know how to identify them on the 7i52s
other than start probing them one by one.

Besides that, I need to modify the PIN file since I need the 7i52s to be
plugged to P1 connector of the 6i24 (Notice that the 6i24 has three ports
labelled P1, P3, P4). I'm downloading Xilinx ISE 14.7 to try to modify the
original file that Peter made for me.

Well, that's all for now, if you can help me a little bit I surely can make
all this work this weekend hopefully. I also need to try the 7i44 but I
need to understand this first.

Thanks as always for your help and patience!

El jue., 19 dic. 2019 a las 8:54, andy pugh () escribió:

> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 22:32, Leonardo Marsaglia 
> wrote:
>
> > Also thanks for the source files, I'll use them to compare with the
> others
> > and try to understand better how to make my own bit files.
>
> Just to clarify (for other readers, as you probably know this). If the
> stepgen and encoder numbers are limited below maximum in the loadrt
> hm2_pci line in the HAL then their pins revert to GPIO.
> (But with so much smart-serial available, there is probably no reason
> to use them)
>
> My lathe uses a 6i24, with a 7i44 and 7i49. That leaves one spare
> 50-pin header. But with a 7i84 and 7i73 on the 7i44 that port is very
> much spare.
>
> (wandering off topic)
> The ultimate retrofit kit now would seem to be a combination of 7i94
> and STMBL drives.
> Ethernet out of the PC, and digital end-to-end
>
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-19 Thread andy pugh

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 22:32, Leonardo Marsaglia  wrote:

> Also thanks for the source files, I'll use them to compare with the others
> and try to understand better how to make my own bit files.

Just to clarify (for other readers, as you probably know this). If the
stepgen and encoder numbers are limited below maximum in the loadrt
hm2_pci line in the HAL then their pins revert to GPIO.
(But with so much smart-serial available, there is probably no reason
to use them)

My lathe uses a 6i24, with a 7i44 and 7i49. That leaves one spare
50-pin header. But with a 7i84 and 7i73 on the 7i44 that port is very
much spare.

(wandering off topic)
The ultimate retrofit kit now would seem to be a combination of 7i94
and STMBL drives.
Ethernet out of the PC, and digital end-to-end

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-18 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia

Thanks Peter. I'll try the 7i52 in a few days when it arrives and tell to
the list how it goes.

Also thanks for the source files, I'll use them to compare with the others
and try to understand better how to make my own bit files.

El 18 dic. 2019 17:54, "Peter C. Wallace"  escribió:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:16:15 -0300
>
> From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>
> 1. what size FPGA do you have (-16 or -25)
>>>
>>
>
> I have the 6i24-25 board.
>

http://freeby.mesanet.com/5i24_7i52.zip


svstss12_12_8 for 5I24-25 or 6I24-25

12 stepgens 12 encoders (2x 7I52S)  1x 8 channel sserial interface (1X 7I44)


The zip file contains the bitfile and the new pinout source file in case
you want to make changes


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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace


On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:


Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:16:15 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration


1. what size FPGA do you have (-16 or -25)



I have the 6i24-25 board.


http://freeby.mesanet.com/5i24_7i52.zip


svstss12_12_8 for 5I24-25 or 6I24-25

12 stepgens 12 encoders (2x 7I52S)  1x 8 channel sserial interface (1X 7I44)


The zip file contains the bitfile and the new pinout source file in case you 
want to make changes



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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-18 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia

>
> 1. what size FPGA do you have (-16 or -25)
>

I have the 6i24-25 board.



> 2. do you want 6 stepgens on the 7I52S or some PWM gens?


I plan to use only stepgens, 3 to be precise. I don't need PWM generators
at the moment.

As always, thank you Peter for your help!



El mié., 18 dic. 2019 a las 17:00, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribió:

> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 09:01:50 -0300
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"  >
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > Thanks Andy.
>
> >I have doubts about the project I need to work with to build the bit file
> >for the 5i24. Is it fivei24.xise or hm2pci.xise?
> >
> >I will continue to learn how to do it this evening after work. I've seen
> >there is video tutorial from a guy from the forum, but unfortunately it's
> >in German... anyway I will take a look at it. May be he shows the steps on
> >screen and that it's great help.
> >
> >I've only used VHDL and Xilinx ISE like several years ago and the farthest
> >I've reached was to make a counter to light a 4 digits seven segment
> >display, so I'm a little rusty now, but I will try to make it work. Also,
> I
> >need to retake my VHDL learning sooner or later.
>
>
> I can make up a 5i24/6i24 bitfile for a 7I52S and a 7I44 but need to know:
>
> 1. what size FPGA do you have (-16 or -25)
> 2. do you want 6 stepgens on the 7I52S or some PWM gens?
>
> Peter Wallace
> Mesa ELectronics
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 09:01:50 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Thanks Andy.

I have doubts about the project I need to work with to build the bit file
for the 5i24. Is it fivei24.xise or hm2pci.xise?

I will continue to learn how to do it this evening after work. I've seen
there is video tutorial from a guy from the forum, but unfortunately it's
in German... anyway I will take a look at it. May be he shows the steps on
screen and that it's great help.

I've only used VHDL and Xilinx ISE like several years ago and the farthest
I've reached was to make a counter to light a 4 digits seven segment
display, so I'm a little rusty now, but I will try to make it work. Also, I
need to retake my VHDL learning sooner or later.

I can make up a 5i24/6i24 bitfile for a 7I52S and a 7I44 but need to know:

1. what size FPGA do you have (-16 or -25)
2. do you want 6 stepgens on the 7I52S or some PWM gens?

Peter Wallace
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-18 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia

Thanks Andy.

I have doubts about the project I need to work with to build the bit file
for the 5i24. Is it fivei24.xise or hm2pci.xise?

I will continue to learn how to do it this evening after work. I've seen
there is video tutorial from a guy from the forum, but unfortunately it's
in German... anyway I will take a look at it. May be he shows the steps on
screen and that it's great help.

I've only used VHDL and Xilinx ISE like several years ago and the farthest
I've reached was to make a counter to light a 4 digits seven segment
display, so I'm a little rusty now, but I will try to make it work. Also, I
need to retake my VHDL learning sooner or later.

El mié., 18 dic. 2019 a las 7:39, andy pugh () escribió:

> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 23:41, Leonardo Marsaglia 
> wrote:
>
> > Is there a bit file for such a configuration ?
>
> The Mesa website has dead links for the 6i24 firmware link, you need
> to look at the 5i24.
> http://www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/5i24.zip
>
> I don't see a pre-made 7i52 + smart-serial bit file there, but there
> is a .VHD that exists:
> PIN_SVSTSS6_4_8_7I52S_72.vhd
>
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-18 Thread andy pugh

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 23:41, Leonardo Marsaglia  wrote:

> Is there a bit file for such a configuration ?

The Mesa website has dead links for the 6i24 firmware link, you need
to look at the 5i24.
http://www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/5i24.zip

I don't see a pre-made 7i52 + smart-serial bit file there, but there
is a .VHD that exists:
PIN_SVSTSS6_4_8_7I52S_72.vhd

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

John, I'll be uploading some pictures and video with pleasure. This machine
is a Mazak lathe that  we should have retrofitted to LCNC a year ago, but
because of lack of time and a lof of work we had to postpone. The lathe
itself is working fine (we only replaced the spindle drive and monitor) but
since it's old we don't want to experiment the failure of some critical
component. Also with LinuxCNC we can improve the functionality of the
machine.

I've already finished adapting the new servo motors and pulleys to the
machine. Also I finished the new monitor case (I'll upload photos of all of
this). The only thing left to do is to mount everything on the machine and
then identify and connect all the cables to the MESA boards. Fortunately,
we don't have to re wire too much. Only servo motors, a VGA and the 7i73 on
the main panel. I'm already making the components I need for the turret and
some other stuff. But more or less that's the story.

Only thing left is to wait for the 7i52 and test everything out of the
machine before we switch to LinuxCNC.

El mar., 17 dic. 2019 a las 20:50, John Dammeyer ()
escribió:

> Looking forward to seeing some photos.
> John
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: December-17-19 3:43 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > My mistake. 7i70 is for inputs and 7i71 for outputs.
> >
> > - 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main
> > panel
> >   /
> >> 7i44 -7i70 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc...
> >   /   \
> > 6i24 -7i71>Relays
> >  \
> > -7i52S  <> Servos step+dir out / Spindle out with stepper
> > in velocity mode / Spindle encoder in
> >
> > El mar., 17 dic. 2019 a las 20:38, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
> > ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribi�:
> >
> > > Well, today I purchased the 7i52S to finally have my setup completed. I
> > > was checking  the spindle manual today and I found it can be driven by
> > > pulses too, so I don't need to have an analog out for that. That takes
> the
> > > 7i33 out of the game for this machine.
> > >
> > > So to sum up, this is how is going to be (last time I described this I
> > > forgot I already had a 7i73):
> > >
> > >
> > > - 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main
> > > panel
> > >   /
> > >> 7i44 -7i71 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc...
> > >   /   \
> > > 6i24 -7i70 >Relays
> > >  \
> > > -7i52S  <> Servos step+dir out / Spindle out with
> stepper
> > > in velocity mode / Spindle encoder in
> > >
> > > Is there a bit file for such a configuration ? Or a new one has to be
> > > done?
> > >
> > > If you can help me out it would be awesome. I'll also try to play a
> little
> > > bit with Xilinx ISE and the source files but I think it will take a
> while
> > > for me to get used to make my own bit files.
> > >
> > > Thank you guys as always.
> > >
> > > Leonardo
> > >
> > >
> > > El lun., 16 dic. 2019 a las 19:35, Gene Heskett ( >)
> > > escribi�:
> > >
> > >> On Monday 16 December 2019 16:28:30 andy pugh wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:19, Gene Heskett 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > But, why do you think you need it?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Theres one place in the misters control where on the 6040 where I
> > >> > > could stand to defeat the D designation by makeing a logic 1 true,
> > >> > > srcing to drive instead of sinking it.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think that the source/sink is a hardware thing, not changeable by
> > >> > firmware. Otherwise 7i76 / 7i76D would be a firmware difference,
> not a
> > >> > separate part.
> > >>
> > >> Yes. So I put in a relay to shut it off when "mist" is disabled. Works
> > >> well.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >> --
> > >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > >>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > >> -Ed Howder

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-17 Thread John Dammeyer

Looking forward to seeing some photos.
John


> -Original Message-
> From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
> Sent: December-17-19 3:43 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> 
> My mistake. 7i70 is for inputs and 7i71 for outputs.
> 
> - 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main
> panel
>   /
>> 7i44 -7i70 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc...
>   /   \
> 6i24 -7i71>Relays
>  \
> -7i52S  <> Servos step+dir out / Spindle out with stepper
> in velocity mode / Spindle encoder in
> 
> El mar., 17 dic. 2019 a las 20:38, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
> ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribi�:
> 
> > Well, today I purchased the 7i52S to finally have my setup completed. I
> > was checking  the spindle manual today and I found it can be driven by
> > pulses too, so I don't need to have an analog out for that. That takes the
> > 7i33 out of the game for this machine.
> >
> > So to sum up, this is how is going to be (last time I described this I
> > forgot I already had a 7i73):
> >
> >
> > - 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main
> > panel
> >   /
> >> 7i44 -7i71 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc...
> >   /   \
> > 6i24 -7i70 >Relays
> >  \
> > -7i52S  <> Servos step+dir out / Spindle out with stepper
> > in velocity mode / Spindle encoder in
> >
> > Is there a bit file for such a configuration ? Or a new one has to be
> > done?
> >
> > If you can help me out it would be awesome. I'll also try to play a little
> > bit with Xilinx ISE and the source files but I think it will take a while
> > for me to get used to make my own bit files.
> >
> > Thank you guys as always.
> >
> > Leonardo
> >
> >
> > El lun., 16 dic. 2019 a las 19:35, Gene Heskett ()
> > escribi�:
> >
> >> On Monday 16 December 2019 16:28:30 andy pugh wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:19, Gene Heskett 
> >> wrote:
> >> > > But, why do you think you need it?
> >> > >
> >> > > Theres one place in the misters control where on the 6040 where I
> >> > > could stand to defeat the D designation by makeing a logic 1 true,
> >> > > srcing to drive instead of sinking it.
> >> >
> >> > I think that the source/sink is a hardware thing, not changeable by
> >> > firmware. Otherwise 7i76 / 7i76D would be a firmware difference, not a
> >> > separate part.
> >>
> >> Yes. So I put in a relay to shut it off when "mist" is disabled. Works
> >> well.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >> --
> >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> >> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
> >>  - Louis D. Brandeis
> >> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
> >>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

By the way, the board is the 6i24-25. I don't know if I pointed out that
earlier.



El mar., 17 dic. 2019 a las 20:43, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió:

> My mistake. 7i70 is for inputs and 7i71 for outputs.
>
> - 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main
> panel
>   /
>> 7i44 -7i70 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc...
>   /   \
> 6i24 -7i71>Relays
>  \
> -7i52S  <> Servos step+dir out / Spindle out with stepper
> in velocity mode / Spindle encoder in
>
> El mar., 17 dic. 2019 a las 20:38, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
> ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>
>> Well, today I purchased the 7i52S to finally have my setup completed. I
>> was checking  the spindle manual today and I found it can be driven by
>> pulses too, so I don't need to have an analog out for that. That takes the
>> 7i33 out of the game for this machine.
>>
>> So to sum up, this is how is going to be (last time I described this I
>> forgot I already had a 7i73):
>>
>>
>> - 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main
>> panel
>>   /
>>> 7i44 -7i71 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc...
>>   /   \
>> 6i24 -7i70 >Relays
>>  \
>> -7i52S  <> Servos step+dir out / Spindle out with stepper
>> in velocity mode / Spindle encoder in
>>
>> Is there a bit file for such a configuration ? Or a new one has to be
>> done?
>>
>> If you can help me out it would be awesome. I'll also try to play a
>> little bit with Xilinx ISE and the source files but I think it will take a
>> while for me to get used to make my own bit files.
>>
>> Thank you guys as always.
>>
>> Leonardo
>>
>>
>> El lun., 16 dic. 2019 a las 19:35, Gene Heskett ()
>> escribió:
>>
>>> On Monday 16 December 2019 16:28:30 andy pugh wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:19, Gene Heskett 
>>> wrote:
>>> > > But, why do you think you need it?
>>> > >
>>> > > Theres one place in the misters control where on the 6040 where I
>>> > > could stand to defeat the D designation by makeing a logic 1 true,
>>> > > srcing to drive instead of sinking it.
>>> >
>>> > I think that the source/sink is a hardware thing, not changeable by
>>> > firmware. Otherwise 7i76 / 7i76D would be a firmware difference, not a
>>> > separate part.
>>>
>>> Yes. So I put in a relay to shut it off when "mist" is disabled. Works
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>> --
>>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>>> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>>>  - Louis D. Brandeis
>>> Genes Web page 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

My mistake. 7i70 is for inputs and 7i71 for outputs.

- 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main
panel
  /
   > 7i44 -7i70 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc...
  /   \
6i24 -7i71>Relays
 \
-7i52S  <> Servos step+dir out / Spindle out with stepper
in velocity mode / Spindle encoder in

El mar., 17 dic. 2019 a las 20:38, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió:

> Well, today I purchased the 7i52S to finally have my setup completed. I
> was checking  the spindle manual today and I found it can be driven by
> pulses too, so I don't need to have an analog out for that. That takes the
> 7i33 out of the game for this machine.
>
> So to sum up, this is how is going to be (last time I described this I
> forgot I already had a 7i73):
>
>
> - 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main
> panel
>   /
>> 7i44 -7i71 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc...
>   /   \
> 6i24 -7i70 >Relays
>  \
> -7i52S  <> Servos step+dir out / Spindle out with stepper
> in velocity mode / Spindle encoder in
>
> Is there a bit file for such a configuration ? Or a new one has to be
> done?
>
> If you can help me out it would be awesome. I'll also try to play a little
> bit with Xilinx ISE and the source files but I think it will take a while
> for me to get used to make my own bit files.
>
> Thank you guys as always.
>
> Leonardo
>
>
> El lun., 16 dic. 2019 a las 19:35, Gene Heskett ()
> escribió:
>
>> On Monday 16 December 2019 16:28:30 andy pugh wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:19, Gene Heskett 
>> wrote:
>> > > But, why do you think you need it?
>> > >
>> > > Theres one place in the misters control where on the 6040 where I
>> > > could stand to defeat the D designation by makeing a logic 1 true,
>> > > srcing to drive instead of sinking it.
>> >
>> > I think that the source/sink is a hardware thing, not changeable by
>> > firmware. Otherwise 7i76 / 7i76D would be a firmware difference, not a
>> > separate part.
>>
>> Yes. So I put in a relay to shut it off when "mist" is disabled. Works
>> well.
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>> --
>> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>>  - Louis D. Brandeis
>> Genes Web page 
>>
>>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Well, today I purchased the 7i52S to finally have my setup completed. I was
checking  the spindle manual today and I found it can be driven by pulses
too, so I don't need to have an analog out for that. That takes the 7i33
out of the game for this machine.

So to sum up, this is how is going to be (last time I described this I
forgot I already had a 7i73):

- 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main
panel
  /
   > 7i44 -7i71 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc...
  /   \
6i24 -7i70 >Relays
 \
-7i52S  <> Servos step+dir out / Spindle out with stepper
in velocity mode / Spindle encoder in

Is there a bit file for such a configuration ? Or a new one has to be done?

If you can help me out it would be awesome. I'll also try to play a little
bit with Xilinx ISE and the source files but I think it will take a while
for me to get used to make my own bit files.

Thank you guys as always.

Leonardo

El lun., 16 dic. 2019 a las 19:35, Gene Heskett ()
escribió:

> On Monday 16 December 2019 16:28:30 andy pugh wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:19, Gene Heskett 
> wrote:
> > > But, why do you think you need it?
> > >
> > > Theres one place in the misters control where on the 6040 where I
> > > could stand to defeat the D designation by makeing a logic 1 true,
> > > srcing to drive instead of sinking it.
> >
> > I think that the source/sink is a hardware thing, not changeable by
> > firmware. Otherwise 7i76 / 7i76D would be a firmware difference, not a
> > separate part.
>
> Yes. So I put in a relay to shut it off when "mist" is disabled. Works
> well.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>  - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page 
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Monday 16 December 2019 16:28:30 andy pugh wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:19, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > But, why do you think you need it?
> >
> > Theres one place in the misters control where on the 6040 where I
> > could stand to defeat the D designation by makeing a logic 1 true,
> > srcing to drive instead of sinking it.
>
> I think that the source/sink is a hardware thing, not changeable by
> firmware. Otherwise 7i76 / 7i76D would be a firmware difference, not a
> separate part.

Yes. So I put in a relay to shut it off when "mist" is disabled. Works 
well.

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 20:19, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> But, why do you think you need it?
>
> Theres one place in the misters control where on the 6040 where I could
> stand to defeat the D designation by makeing a logic 1 true, srcing to
> drive instead of sinking it.


I think that the source/sink is a hardware thing, not changeable by
firmware. Otherwise 7i76 / 7i76D would be a firmware difference, not a
separate part.

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Monday 16 December 2019 14:11:46 andy pugh wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 17:26, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > Bah! Windows 10. I've one machine that might run it. Windows
> > anything gives me the hives.
>
> https://www.xilinx.com/member/forms/download/xef.html?filename=Xilinx_
>ISE_DS_Lin_14.7_1015_1.tar
>
> Linux 14.7 ISE direct link.
>
> But, why do you think you need it?

Theres one place in the misters control where on the 6040 where I could 
stand to defeat the D designation by makeing a logic 1 true, srcing to 
drive instead of sinking it. That would simplify the output to the 
mister pump motor.  We did get it sorted though by relay switching the 
power when its off.  NBD in the long run.

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 17:26, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> Bah! Windows 10. I've one machine that might run it. Windows anything
> gives me the hives.
https://www.xilinx.com/member/forms/download/xef.html?filename=Xilinx_ISE_DS_Lin_14.7_1015_1.tar

Linux 14.7 ISE direct link.

But, why do you think you need it?

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-16 Thread Todd Zuercher

-Original Message-
From: Gene Heskett  
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2019 12:25 PM
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

>Bah! Windows 10. I've one machine that might run it. Windows anything gives me 
>the hives.


Maybe that's why I've been so itchy lately.


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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Monday 16 December 2019 13:02:53 Peter C. Wallace wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:24:56 -0500
> > From: Gene Heskett 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > On Monday 16 December 2019 11:14:02 andy pugh wrote:
> >> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 16:02, Gene Heskett 
> >
> > wrote:
> >>>> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles
> >>
> >> Last edited December 2017
> >>
> >>> I can't find the Xilinx ISE software referenced at the "here" site
> >>> link at the top of that page. Am I blind?
> >>
> >> No, you need to poke about the site a bit, and probably want:
> >> https://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.html/content/xilinx/e
> >>n/d ownloadNav/vivado-design-tools/archive-ise.html
>
> https://www.xilinx.com/products/design-tools/ise-design-suite/ise-webp
>ack.html
>
> > Bah! Windows 10. I've one machine that might run it. Windows
> > anything gives me the hives.
> >
Found the tar.gz, nearly 10 gigabytes. Also behind a data stealing login.
:(

> >> And if that is right, maybe you can correct the Wiki?
> >
> > Do I have rights?
> >
> > Thanks Andy.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
> > respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Monday 16 December 2019 12:54:48 Peter C. Wallace wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:24:56 -0500
> > From: Gene Heskett 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > On Monday 16 December 2019 11:14:02 andy pugh wrote:
> >> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 16:02, Gene Heskett 
> >
> > wrote:
> >>>> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles
> >>
> >> Last edited December 2017
> >>
> >>> I can't find the Xilinx ISE software referenced at the "here" site
> >>> link at the top of that page. Am I blind?
> >>
> >> No, you need to poke about the site a bit, and probably want:
> >> https://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.html/content/xilinx/e
> >>n/d ownloadNav/vivado-design-tools/archive-ise.html
> >
> > Bah! Windows 10. I've one machine that might run it. Windows
> > anything gives me the hives.
>
> You dont want Vivado for Spartan 6 and earlier you want the latest ISE
> Webpack (14.7) this runs on pretty much any linux version

Thats the next one down under the win 110 label?

Thanks Peter.

>
> >> And if that is right, maybe you can correct the Wiki?
> >
> > Do I have rights?
> >
> > Thanks Andy.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
> > respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace


On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote:


Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:24:56 -0500
From: Gene Heskett 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Monday 16 December 2019 11:14:02 andy pugh wrote:


On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 16:02, Gene Heskett 

wrote:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles


Last edited December 2017


I can't find the Xilinx ISE software referenced at the "here" site
link at the top of that page. Am I blind?


No, you need to poke about the site a bit, and probably want:
https://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.html/content/xilinx/en/d
ownloadNav/vivado-design-tools/archive-ise.html



https://www.xilinx.com/products/design-tools/ise-design-suite/ise-webpack.html






Bah! Windows 10. I've one machine that might run it. Windows anything
gives me the hives.


And if that is right, maybe you can correct the Wiki?


Do I have rights?

Thanks Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace


On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, Gene Heskett wrote:


Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 12:24:56 -0500
From: Gene Heskett 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Monday 16 December 2019 11:14:02 andy pugh wrote:


On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 16:02, Gene Heskett 

wrote:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles


Last edited December 2017


I can't find the Xilinx ISE software referenced at the "here" site
link at the top of that page. Am I blind?


No, you need to poke about the site a bit, and probably want:
https://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.html/content/xilinx/en/d
ownloadNav/vivado-design-tools/archive-ise.html


Bah! Windows 10. I've one machine that might run it. Windows anything
gives me the hives.



You dont want Vivado for Spartan 6 and earlier you want the latest ISE Webpack 
(14.7) this runs on pretty much any linux version





And if that is right, maybe you can correct the Wiki?


Do I have rights?

Thanks Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Monday 16 December 2019 11:14:02 andy pugh wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 16:02, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles
>
> Last edited December 2017
>
> > I can't find the Xilinx ISE software referenced at the "here" site
> > link at the top of that page. Am I blind?
>
> No, you need to poke about the site a bit, and probably want:
> https://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.html/content/xilinx/en/d
>ownloadNav/vivado-design-tools/archive-ise.html
>
Bah! Windows 10. I've one machine that might run it. Windows anything 
gives me the hives.

> And if that is right, maybe you can correct the Wiki?

Do I have rights?

Thanks Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 16:02, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles

Last edited December 2017

> I can't find the Xilinx ISE software referenced at the "here" site link
> at the top of that page. Am I blind?

No, you need to poke about the site a bit, and probably want:
https://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.html/content/xilinx/en/downloadNav/vivado-design-tools/archive-ise.html

And if that is right, maybe you can correct the Wiki?

-- 
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Monday 16 December 2019 08:42:06 andy pugh wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 13:00, Leonardo Marsaglia 
 wrote:
> > Another question, is it possible to edit the pin files in an easy
> > way? Do I need to download the Xilinx ISE program for that?
>
> You need to edit the .vhd files.
>
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles

I can't find the Xilinx ISE software referenced at the "here" site link 
at the top of that page. Am I blind?

Thanks Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 13:00, Leonardo Marsaglia  wrote:

> Another question, is it possible to edit the pin files in an easy way? Do I
> need to download the Xilinx ISE program for that?

You need to edit the .vhd files.

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Editing_MESA_Bitfiles


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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-16 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia

Thank you Andy as always!

I just loaded a firmware with mesaflash and loaded the hm2_pci component
and everything is working fine.

Another question, is it possible to edit the pin files in an easy way? Do I
need to download the Xilinx ISE program for that?
Because sometimes as I read from Peter some setups are not that common, and
may be I could modify the bit files on my own so I don't have to bother you
guys with my tests...

So, I have yet to decide wich board I should purchase for the step+dir.

El lun., 16 dic. 2019 a las 9:30, andy pugh () escribió:

> On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 12:05, Leonardo Marsaglia 
> wrote:
>
> > I tried the  SVST4_8 provided in the website of mesa
>
> I think that the 6i24 is a member of the class of Mesa cards that
> needs to have the firmware flashed with Mesaflash. (rather than being
> part of the "loadrt hm2_pci" part of the HAL.
>
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 12:05, Leonardo Marsaglia  wrote:

> I tried the  SVST4_8 provided in the website of mesa

I think that the 6i24 is a member of the class of Mesa cards that
needs to have the firmware flashed with Mesaflash. (rather than being
part of the "loadrt hm2_pci" part of the HAL.

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-16 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia

Correction. The jumpers are ok but they are W7 down and W9 up. I just typed
it wrong.

El lun., 16 dic. 2019 a las 9:02, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> Well it seems I need some extra help here.
>
> I'm trying to initialize the 6i24 with halcmd in the terminal and I can
> start the hostmot2 driver ok but I can't call for any components like
> stepgens or encoders. I can only see the GPIO when I load the
> configuration.
>
> I tried the  SVST4_8 provided in the website of mesa but when I hit show
> pin or show param I can only see the 72 GPIO and the other normal
> parameters of the board. I already checked the jumpers and they are ok, W7
> up and W9 down.
>
> I have no error messages when I load the configuration, I even copied all
> the configs to the lib/hm2 directory with a new 5i24 folder because it
> didn't exist originally.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks as always!
>
> El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 23:56, John Dammeyer ()
> escribió:
>
>> I understand.  I'm running my DC servo's open loop with step/dir.  So far
>> any issues that show up are caught by the drives following error fault so I
>> don't see any reason to close the loop inside Linux.  And in any case then
>> I wouldn't be able to swap back and forth between MACH3 and LinuxCNC.
>> John
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: December-15-19 6:27 PM
>> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
>> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>> >
>> > Hello John,
>> >
>> > I don't know If I understand you correctly, but I already have the
>> boards
>> > and I intend to use the 7i70 for inputs (I have already 6 inductive
>> sensors
>> > only for the turret and also all the limit switches and some other
>> switches
>> > for the tailstock and tail body). Then I have more than 10 relays to
>> drive
>> > and that's where the 7i71 comes in. I already have the boards and I
>> choose
>> > them for the convenience of the RJ45 jacks.
>> >
>> > I planned to use the 7i33 to drive the servos and also the spindle but
>> > since the servos behave excellent with step + dir (they work with 17 bit
>> > encoders) and also I can simplify the mechanical setup I decided to use
>> > them with step and direction instead of closed loop. So the 7i33 will be
>> > used only to drive the analog spindle input on the VFD.
>> >
>> > The thing is, I'm lacking the breakout board for the step+dir so I was
>> > thinking about using the 7i47 which seems to do the job, but I wanted to
>> > ask here because may be there's another one that suits better for the
>> job.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 23:10, John Dammeyer
>> > ()
>> > escribi�:
>> >
>> > > Let's see:
>> > > 6i24 = $139
>> > > 7i33 =  $69
>> > > 7i47 =  $69
>> > > 7i44 = $69
>> > > 7i77 = $119 (48 outputs, not really for buttons?)
>> > > 7i70 = $79 (48 inputs not really for Relays)
>> > > =
>> > >$544
>> > >
>> > > Perhaps take a step back and make a list of how many inputs and
>> outputs
>> > > you expect to need.
>> > >
>> > > Wouldn't a 7i78+5i25 Plug-n-go kit for $158 work just as well?
>> > >
>> > > John
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
>> > > > Sent: December-15-19 5:30 PM
>> > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
>> > > > Subject: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>> > > >
>> > > > Hello again.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm testing my boards and configuration before I install everything
>> on
>> > > the
>> > > > real machine.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm configuring a lathe with 2 servos for the X and Z axis, one PWM
>> > > > converted to analog for the spindle, and one encoder input for the
>> > > spindle.
>> > > > Also a lot of input and outputs to deal with.
>> > > >
>> > > > For that I purchased a 6i24 with a 7i44 to drive one 7i70 and a
>> 7i71 for
>> > > > inputs and outputs. In adition to that I originally plann

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-16 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia

Well it seems I need some extra help here.

I'm trying to initialize the 6i24 with halcmd in the terminal and I can
start the hostmot2 driver ok but I can't call for any components like
stepgens or encoders. I can only see the GPIO when I load the
configuration.

I tried the  SVST4_8 provided in the website of mesa but when I hit show
pin or show param I can only see the 72 GPIO and the other normal
parameters of the board. I already checked the jumpers and they are ok, W7
up and W9 down.

I have no error messages when I load the configuration, I even copied all
the configs to the lib/hm2 directory with a new 5i24 folder because it
didn't exist originally.

Any suggestions?

Thanks as always!

El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 23:56, John Dammeyer ()
escribió:

> I understand.  I'm running my DC servo's open loop with step/dir.  So far
> any issues that show up are caught by the drives following error fault so I
> don't see any reason to close the loop inside Linux.  And in any case then
> I wouldn't be able to swap back and forth between MACH3 and LinuxCNC.
> John
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: December-15-19 6:27 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > Hello John,
> >
> > I don't know If I understand you correctly, but I already have the boards
> > and I intend to use the 7i70 for inputs (I have already 6 inductive
> sensors
> > only for the turret and also all the limit switches and some other
> switches
> > for the tailstock and tail body). Then I have more than 10 relays to
> drive
> > and that's where the 7i71 comes in. I already have the boards and I
> choose
> > them for the convenience of the RJ45 jacks.
> >
> > I planned to use the 7i33 to drive the servos and also the spindle but
> > since the servos behave excellent with step + dir (they work with 17 bit
> > encoders) and also I can simplify the mechanical setup I decided to use
> > them with step and direction instead of closed loop. So the 7i33 will be
> > used only to drive the analog spindle input on the VFD.
> >
> > The thing is, I'm lacking the breakout board for the step+dir so I was
> > thinking about using the 7i47 which seems to do the job, but I wanted to
> > ask here because may be there's another one that suits better for the
> job.
> >
> >
> >
> > El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 23:10, John Dammeyer
> > ()
> > escribi�:
> >
> > > Let's see:
> > > 6i24 = $139
> > > 7i33 =  $69
> > > 7i47 =  $69
> > > 7i44 = $69
> > > 7i77 = $119 (48 outputs, not really for buttons?)
> > > 7i70 = $79 (48 inputs not really for Relays)
> > > =
> > >$544
> > >
> > > Perhaps take a step back and make a list of how many inputs and outputs
> > > you expect to need.
> > >
> > > Wouldn't a 7i78+5i25 Plug-n-go kit for $158 work just as well?
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: December-15-19 5:30 PM
> > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > Subject: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> > > >
> > > > Hello again.
> > > >
> > > > I'm testing my boards and configuration before I install everything
> on
> > > the
> > > > real machine.
> > > >
> > > > I'm configuring a lathe with 2 servos for the X and Z axis, one PWM
> > > > converted to analog for the spindle, and one encoder input for the
> > > spindle.
> > > > Also a lot of input and outputs to deal with.
> > > >
> > > > For that I purchased a 6i24 with a 7i44 to drive one 7i70 and a 7i71
> for
> > > > inputs and outputs. In adition to that I originally planned to use a
> 7i33
> > > > to drive the servos and spindle with analog voltage and also read the
> > > > encoders coupled to the screws and the one on the spindle.
> > > >
> > > > I changed my mind and I plan to use step + dir to drive the servos
> and
> > > > leave the rest as it was originally planned. So I guess I need
> another
> > > > daughter card to drive the servos via step + dir.
> > > >
> > > > From what I read the ideal board would be the 7i47 but I needed to
> ask
> > > here
&g

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-15 Thread John Dammeyer

I understand.  I'm running my DC servo's open loop with step/dir.  So far any 
issues that show up are caught by the drives following error fault so I don't 
see any reason to close the loop inside Linux.  And in any case then I wouldn't 
be able to swap back and forth between MACH3 and LinuxCNC.
John


> -Original Message-
> From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
> Sent: December-15-19 6:27 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> 
> Hello John,
> 
> I don't know If I understand you correctly, but I already have the boards
> and I intend to use the 7i70 for inputs (I have already 6 inductive sensors
> only for the turret and also all the limit switches and some other switches
> for the tailstock and tail body). Then I have more than 10 relays to drive
> and that's where the 7i71 comes in. I already have the boards and I choose
> them for the convenience of the RJ45 jacks.
> 
> I planned to use the 7i33 to drive the servos and also the spindle but
> since the servos behave excellent with step + dir (they work with 17 bit
> encoders) and also I can simplify the mechanical setup I decided to use
> them with step and direction instead of closed loop. So the 7i33 will be
> used only to drive the analog spindle input on the VFD.
> 
> The thing is, I'm lacking the breakout board for the step+dir so I was
> thinking about using the 7i47 which seems to do the job, but I wanted to
> ask here because may be there's another one that suits better for the job.
> 
> 
> 
> El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 23:10, John Dammeyer
> ()
> escribi�:
> 
> > Let's see:
> > 6i24 = $139
> > 7i33 =  $69
> > 7i47 =  $69
> > 7i44 = $69
> > 7i77 = $119 (48 outputs, not really for buttons?)
> > 7i70 = $79 (48 inputs not really for Relays)
> > =
> >$544
> >
> > Perhaps take a step back and make a list of how many inputs and outputs
> > you expect to need.
> >
> > Wouldn't a 7i78+5i25 Plug-n-go kit for $158 work just as well?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: December-15-19 5:30 PM
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > Subject: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> > >
> > > Hello again.
> > >
> > > I'm testing my boards and configuration before I install everything on
> > the
> > > real machine.
> > >
> > > I'm configuring a lathe with 2 servos for the X and Z axis, one PWM
> > > converted to analog for the spindle, and one encoder input for the
> > spindle.
> > > Also a lot of input and outputs to deal with.
> > >
> > > For that I purchased a 6i24 with a 7i44 to drive one 7i70 and a 7i71 for
> > > inputs and outputs. In adition to that I originally planned to use a 7i33
> > > to drive the servos and spindle with analog voltage and also read the
> > > encoders coupled to the screws and the one on the spindle.
> > >
> > > I changed my mind and I plan to use step + dir to drive the servos and
> > > leave the rest as it was originally planned. So I guess I need another
> > > daughter card to drive the servos via step + dir.
> > >
> > > From what I read the ideal board would be the 7i47 but I needed to ask
> > here
> > > first. Also I'm having a little bit of trouble finding the right firmware
> > > for this kind of setup.
> > >
> > > To sum up:
> > >    7i70 >Relays
> > >  /
> > >> 7i44 -> 7i71 <-Sensors, buttons, etc...
> > >   /
> > > 6i24 > 7i33 <> Spindle analog out/ Spindle encoder in
> > >  \
> > >   > 7i47 > Servos step+dir output
> > >
> > >
> > > Please let me know if this is the right approach and also guide to find
> > the
> > > right firmware because I'm not sure wich one I can use.
> > >
> > > Thanks as always and sorry for the long post.
> > >
> > > Leonardo
> > >
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace

On Sun, 15 Dec 2019, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 23:27:16 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Hello John,

I don't know If I understand you correctly, but I already have the boards
and I intend to use the 7i70 for inputs (I have already 6 inductive sensors
only for the turret and also all the limit switches and some other switches
for the tailstock and tail body). Then I have more than 10 relays to drive
and that's where the 7i71 comes in. I already have the boards and I choose
them for the convenience of the RJ45 jacks.

I planned to use the 7i33 to drive the servos and also the spindle but
since the servos behave excellent with step + dir (they work with 17 bit
encoders) and also I can simplify the mechanical setup I decided to use
them with step and direction instead of closed loop. So the 7i33 will be
used only to drive the analog spindle input on the VFD.

The thing is, I'm lacking the breakout board for the step+dir so I was
thinking about using the 7i47 which seems to do the job, but I wanted to
ask here because may be there's another one that suits better for the job.

Depending on how many axis you need, you could use

7I47   4 encoders (Diff only) + 6 step/dir
7I47S  4 encoders (Diff only) + 4 step/dir + isolated analog spindle interface
7I52S  6 encoders (Diff or TTL) +6 step/dir

(the 7I47S would eliminate the need to use the 7I33)

El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 23:10, John Dammeyer ()
escribi??:

Let's see:
6i24 = $139
7i33 =  $69
7i47 =  $69
7i44 = $69
7i77 = $119 (48 outputs, not really for buttons?)
7i70 = $79 (48 inputs not really for Relays)
=
   $544

Perhaps take a step back and make a list of how many inputs and outputs
you expect to need.

Wouldn't a 7i78+5i25 Plug-n-go kit for $158 work just as well?

John

> -Original Message-
> From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
> Sent: December-15-19 5:30 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
>
> Hello again.
>
> I'm testing my boards and configuration before I install everything on
the
> real machine.
>
> I'm configuring a lathe with 2 servos for the X and Z axis, one PWM
> converted to analog for the spindle, and one encoder input for the
spindle.
> Also a lot of input and outputs to deal with.
>
> For that I purchased a 6i24 with a 7i44 to drive one 7i70 and a 7i71 for
> inputs and outputs. In adition to that I originally planned to use a 7i33
> to drive the servos and spindle with analog voltage and also read the
> encoders coupled to the screws and the one on the spindle.
>
> I changed my mind and I plan to use step + dir to drive the servos and
> leave the rest as it was originally planned. So I guess I need another
> daughter card to drive the servos via step + dir.
>
> From what I read the ideal board would be the 7i47 but I needed to ask
here
> first. Also I'm having a little bit of trouble finding the right firmware
> for this kind of setup.
>
> To sum up:
>    7i70 >Relays
>  /
>> 7i44 -> 7i71 <-Sensors, buttons, etc...
>   /
> 6i24 > 7i33 <> Spindle analog out/ Spindle encoder in
>  \
>   > 7i47 > Servos step+dir output
>
>
> Please let me know if this is the right approach and also guide to find
the
> right firmware because I'm not sure wich one I can use.
>
> Thanks as always and sorry for the long post.
>
> Leonardo
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Hello John,

I don't know If I understand you correctly, but I already have the boards
and I intend to use the 7i70 for inputs (I have already 6 inductive sensors
only for the turret and also all the limit switches and some other switches
for the tailstock and tail body). Then I have more than 10 relays to drive
and that's where the 7i71 comes in. I already have the boards and I choose
them for the convenience of the RJ45 jacks.

I planned to use the 7i33 to drive the servos and also the spindle but
since the servos behave excellent with step + dir (they work with 17 bit
encoders) and also I can simplify the mechanical setup I decided to use
them with step and direction instead of closed loop. So the 7i33 will be
used only to drive the analog spindle input on the VFD.

The thing is, I'm lacking the breakout board for the step+dir so I was
thinking about using the 7i47 which seems to do the job, but I wanted to
ask here because may be there's another one that suits better for the job.



El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 23:10, John Dammeyer ()
escribió:

> Let's see:
> 6i24 = $139
> 7i33 =  $69
> 7i47 =  $69
> 7i44 = $69
> 7i77 = $119 (48 outputs, not really for buttons?)
> 7i70 = $79 (48 inputs not really for Relays)
> =
>$544
>
> Perhaps take a step back and make a list of how many inputs and outputs
> you expect to need.
>
> Wouldn't a 7i78+5i25 Plug-n-go kit for $158 work just as well?
>
> John
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: December-15-19 5:30 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > Hello again.
> >
> > I'm testing my boards and configuration before I install everything on
> the
> > real machine.
> >
> > I'm configuring a lathe with 2 servos for the X and Z axis, one PWM
> > converted to analog for the spindle, and one encoder input for the
> spindle.
> > Also a lot of input and outputs to deal with.
> >
> > For that I purchased a 6i24 with a 7i44 to drive one 7i70 and a 7i71 for
> > inputs and outputs. In adition to that I originally planned to use a 7i33
> > to drive the servos and spindle with analog voltage and also read the
> > encoders coupled to the screws and the one on the spindle.
> >
> > I changed my mind and I plan to use step + dir to drive the servos and
> > leave the rest as it was originally planned. So I guess I need another
> > daughter card to drive the servos via step + dir.
> >
> > From what I read the ideal board would be the 7i47 but I needed to ask
> here
> > first. Also I'm having a little bit of trouble finding the right firmware
> > for this kind of setup.
> >
> > To sum up:
> >    7i70 >Relays
> >  /
> >> 7i44 -> 7i71 <-Sensors, buttons, etc...
> >   /
> > 6i24 > 7i33 <> Spindle analog out/ Spindle encoder in
> >  \
> >   > 7i47 > Servos step+dir output
> >
> >
> > Please let me know if this is the right approach and also guide to find
> the
> > right firmware because I'm not sure wich one I can use.
> >
> > Thanks as always and sorry for the long post.
> >
> > Leonardo
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-15 Thread John Dammeyer

Let's see:
6i24 = $139
7i33 =  $69
7i47 =  $69
7i44 = $69
7i77 = $119 (48 outputs, not really for buttons?)
7i70 = $79 (48 inputs not really for Relays)
=
   $544

Perhaps take a step back and make a list of how many inputs and outputs you 
expect to need.

Wouldn't a 7i78+5i25 Plug-n-go kit for $158 work just as well?

John



> -Original Message-
> From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com]
> Sent: December-15-19 5:30 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> 
> Hello again.
> 
> I'm testing my boards and configuration before I install everything on the
> real machine.
> 
> I'm configuring a lathe with 2 servos for the X and Z axis, one PWM
> converted to analog for the spindle, and one encoder input for the spindle.
> Also a lot of input and outputs to deal with.
> 
> For that I purchased a 6i24 with a 7i44 to drive one 7i70 and a 7i71 for
> inputs and outputs. In adition to that I originally planned to use a 7i33
> to drive the servos and spindle with analog voltage and also read the
> encoders coupled to the screws and the one on the spindle.
> 
> I changed my mind and I plan to use step + dir to drive the servos and
> leave the rest as it was originally planned. So I guess I need another
> daughter card to drive the servos via step + dir.
> 
> From what I read the ideal board would be the 7i47 but I needed to ask here
> first. Also I'm having a little bit of trouble finding the right firmware
> for this kind of setup.
> 
> To sum up:
>    7i70 >Relays
>  /
>> 7i44 -> 7i71 <-Sensors, buttons, etc...
>   /
> 6i24 > 7i33 <> Spindle analog out/ Spindle encoder in
>  \
>   > 7i47 > Servos step+dir output
> 
> 
> Please let me know if this is the right approach and also guide to find the
> right firmware because I'm not sure wich one I can use.
> 
> Thanks as always and sorry for the long post.
> 
> Leonardo
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

Thank you very much Peter, that would be really helpful.

El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 22:57, Peter C. Wallace ()
escribió:

> On Sun, 15 Dec 2019, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 22:45:23 -0300
> > From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"  >
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration
> >
> > By the way, I'm using the 6i24-25 board and I'm using LinuxCNC 2.7.14 on
> Debian 7 Wheezy as it comes with the .iso file.
>
> Pretty sure theres a bitfile for a 7I47 and 7I44 but I dont think theres
> one
> with a 7I33 also, Ill try to make one up sometime tommorow
>
>
> El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 22:29, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
> ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribiяя:
>
> > Hello again.
> >
> > I'm testing my boards and configuration before I install everything on
> the
> > real machine.
> >
> > I'm configuring a lathe with 2 servos for the X and Z axis, one PWM
> > converted to analog for the spindle, and one encoder input for the
> spindle.
> > Also a lot of input and outputs to deal with.
> >
> > For that I purchased a 6i24 with a 7i44 to drive one 7i70 and a 7i71 for
> > inputs and outputs. In adition to that I originally planned to use a 7i33
> > to drive the servos and spindle with analog voltage and also read the
> > encoders coupled to the screws and the one on the spindle.
> >
> > I changed my mind and I plan to use step + dir to drive the servos and
> > leave the rest as it was originally planned. So I guess I need another
> > daughter card to drive the servos via step + dir.
> >
> > From what I read the ideal board would be the 7i47 but I needed to ask
> > here first. Also I'm having a little bit of trouble finding the right
> > firmware for this kind of setup.
> >
> > To sum up:
> >    7i70 >Relays
> >  /
> >> 7i44 -> 7i71 <-Sensors, buttons, etc...
> >   /
> > 6i24 > 7i33 <> Spindle analog out/ Spindle encoder in
> >  \
> >   > 7i47 > Servos step+dir output
> >
> >
> > Please let me know if this is the right approach and also guide to find
> > the right firmware because I'm not sure wich one I can use.
> >
> > Thanks as always and sorry for the long post.
> >
> > Leonardo
> >
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace

On Sun, 15 Dec 2019, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote:

Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2019 22:45:23 -0300
From: Leonardo Marsaglia 
Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"

To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

By the way, I'm using the 6i24-25 board and I'm using LinuxCNC 2.7.14 on

Debian 7 Wheezy as it comes with the .iso file.

Pretty sure theres a bitfile for a 7I47 and 7I44 but I dont think theres one 
with a 7I33 also, Ill try to make one up sometime tommorow

El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 22:29, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribi??:

Hello again.

I'm testing my boards and configuration before I install everything on the
real machine.

I'm configuring a lathe with 2 servos for the X and Z axis, one PWM
converted to analog for the spindle, and one encoder input for the spindle.
Also a lot of input and outputs to deal with.

For that I purchased a 6i24 with a 7i44 to drive one 7i70 and a 7i71 for
inputs and outputs. In adition to that I originally planned to use a 7i33
to drive the servos and spindle with analog voltage and also read the
encoders coupled to the screws and the one on the spindle.

I changed my mind and I plan to use step + dir to drive the servos and
leave the rest as it was originally planned. So I guess I need another
daughter card to drive the servos via step + dir.

From what I read the ideal board would be the 7i47 but I needed to ask
here first. Also I'm having a little bit of trouble finding the right
firmware for this kind of setup.

To sum up:
   7i70 >Relays
 /
   > 7i44 -> 7i71 <-Sensors, buttons, etc...
  /
6i24 > 7i33 <> Spindle analog out/ Spindle encoder in
 \
  > 7i47 > Servos step+dir output

Please let me know if this is the right approach and also guide to find
the right firmware because I'm not sure wich one I can use.

Thanks as always and sorry for the long post.

Leonardo

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Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

By the way, I'm using the 6i24-25 board and I'm using LinuxCNC 2.7.14 on
Debian 7 Wheezy as it comes with the .iso file.

El dom., 15 dic. 2019 a las 22:29, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió:

> Hello again.
>
> I'm testing my boards and configuration before I install everything on the
> real machine.
>
> I'm configuring a lathe with 2 servos for the X and Z axis, one PWM
> converted to analog for the spindle, and one encoder input for the spindle.
> Also a lot of input and outputs to deal with.
>
> For that I purchased a 6i24 with a 7i44 to drive one 7i70 and a 7i71 for
> inputs and outputs. In adition to that I originally planned to use a 7i33
> to drive the servos and spindle with analog voltage and also read the
> encoders coupled to the screws and the one on the spindle.
>
> I changed my mind and I plan to use step + dir to drive the servos and
> leave the rest as it was originally planned. So I guess I need another
> daughter card to drive the servos via step + dir.
>
> From what I read the ideal board would be the 7i47 but I needed to ask
> here first. Also I'm having a little bit of trouble finding the right
> firmware for this kind of setup.
>
> To sum up:
>    7i70 >Relays
>  /
>> 7i44 -> 7i71 <-Sensors, buttons, etc...
>   /
> 6i24 > 7i33 <> Spindle analog out/ Spindle encoder in
>  \
>   > 7i47 > Servos step+dir output
>
>
> Please let me know if this is the right approach and also guide to find
> the right firmware because I'm not sure wich one I can use.
>
> Thanks as always and sorry for the long post.
>
> Leonardo
>

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