Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update breaks msec

2003-07-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 23:14, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:08, AAW wrote:
> > On Wednesday 23 July 2003 02:32 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > > On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 12:21:27PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
> > > > (Again, this is in the hopes that someone from Mandrake is still
> > > > reading this list)
> > > >
> > > > Well, at least partially. :-)
> > > >
> > > > In addition to the other error I reported regarding the new kernel
> > > > (2.4.21- 0.24mdk) causing all files to be written as world
> > > > writable, I noticed something else in my system processes.  My
> > > > morning E-Mail from my nightly cron jobs reported:
> > > >
> > > > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format
> > > > character /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid
> > > > format character /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@':
> > > > invalid format character /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf:
> > > > `m': invalid format character
> > > >
> > > > Nothing has been changed in that file.  This only showed up with
> > > > the new kernel in place.  Please go over the new kernel and release
> > > > a bugfix for these two problems.  Thanks!
> > >
> > > Ummm... let's be a little logical here.
> > >
> > > Why would you blame the kernel for something in msec?  The kernel
> > > touches /boot and /lib/modules... why would it have anything to do
> > > with msec?
> > >
> > > Did you look at line 66 of that file?  What does it say?
> > >
> > > The previous issue could potentially be attributed to the kernel, but
> > > I highly doubt it.  This one I think attributing to the kernel is
> > > pretty far-fetched.
> > 
> > I'm now seeing similar behavior under both the old and new kernels. 
> > However, I never saw the behavior before installing 0.24mdk.
> > 
> > kernel-2.4.21-0.24mdk:
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `U': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `y': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `T': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `p': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
> > 
> > 
> > kernel-2.4.21-0.18md:
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `U': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `y': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `T': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `p': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `m': invalid format character
> > 
> > Below is a list of the packages installed since the last clean admin 
> > report 07-22-2003 at 10:11:34 am. The arts packages are rebuilt from 
> > cooker SRPMs. I also rebuilt and installed kdelibs (29mdk), but that 
> > was after problem showed up.
> > 
> > libarts-devel-1.1.2-8mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:58 PM CDT
> > arts-1.1.2-8mdk  Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:56 PM CDT
> > libarts-1.1.2-8mdk   Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:43 PM CDT
> > kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.24mdkTue 22 Jul 2003 04:21:12 PM CDT
> > kernel-source-2.4.21-0.24mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 04:12:07 PM CDT
> > kernel-2.4.21.0.24mdk-1-1mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 02:09:39 PM CDT
> > 
> > Arn
> 
> Arn,
> 
>What languages do you run on this box and does /etc/sysconfig/i18n
> have a lot of mention of UTF-8?
> 
> James

Ooops forgot to mention,  I don't doubt the kernel problem... I'm just
curious as to conditions... maybe, just maybe, my dumb luck will hold
out and I will ask the right question that gives someone with
intelligence an idea. *grin*  I'm wondering if maybe something in the
codepages got hosed.  Since it does seem to be a error that could be in
this area.

> 
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update breaks msec

2003-07-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:08, AAW wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 July 2003 02:32 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 12:21:27PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
> > > (Again, this is in the hopes that someone from Mandrake is still
> > > reading this list)
> > >
> > > Well, at least partially. :-)
> > >
> > > In addition to the other error I reported regarding the new kernel
> > > (2.4.21- 0.24mdk) causing all files to be written as world
> > > writable, I noticed something else in my system processes.  My
> > > morning E-Mail from my nightly cron jobs reported:
> > >
> > > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format
> > > character /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid
> > > format character /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@':
> > > invalid format character /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf:
> > > `m': invalid format character
> > >
> > > Nothing has been changed in that file.  This only showed up with
> > > the new kernel in place.  Please go over the new kernel and release
> > > a bugfix for these two problems.  Thanks!
> >
> > Ummm... let's be a little logical here.
> >
> > Why would you blame the kernel for something in msec?  The kernel
> > touches /boot and /lib/modules... why would it have anything to do
> > with msec?
> >
> > Did you look at line 66 of that file?  What does it say?
> >
> > The previous issue could potentially be attributed to the kernel, but
> > I highly doubt it.  This one I think attributing to the kernel is
> > pretty far-fetched.
> 
> I'm now seeing similar behavior under both the old and new kernels. 
> However, I never saw the behavior before installing 0.24mdk.
> 
> kernel-2.4.21-0.24mdk:
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `U': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `y': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `T': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `p': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
> 
> 
> kernel-2.4.21-0.18md:
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `U': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `y': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `T': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `p': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `m': invalid format character
> 
> Below is a list of the packages installed since the last clean admin 
> report 07-22-2003 at 10:11:34 am. The arts packages are rebuilt from 
> cooker SRPMs. I also rebuilt and installed kdelibs (29mdk), but that 
> was after problem showed up.
> 
> libarts-devel-1.1.2-8mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:58 PM CDT
> arts-1.1.2-8mdk  Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:56 PM CDT
> libarts-1.1.2-8mdk   Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:43 PM CDT
> kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.24mdkTue 22 Jul 2003 04:21:12 PM CDT
> kernel-source-2.4.21-0.24mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 04:12:07 PM CDT
> kernel-2.4.21.0.24mdk-1-1mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 02:09:39 PM CDT
> 
> Arn

Arn,

   What languages do you run on this box and does /etc/sysconfig/i18n
have a lot of mention of UTF-8?

James



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Re: [expert] Avoiding NFS clients Hang when NFS server dies

2003-07-23 Thread Todd Lyons
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Tru64 User wanted us to know:

>Problem is that if any one host goes down, all other
>hosts hang with a df. Additionally, other programs
>2.Using the "soft" option for mounting (default=hard).
>None of these are a cure. Any additional suggestions
>out there?

Using soft is a cure, just not if you're _in_ the directory that is the
NFS mount or if all of your paths are on that NFS mount.
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Re: [expert] MSI K7D Master

2003-07-23 Thread Todd Lyons
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Stephane Junique wanted us to know:

>I tried to pass noapic and acpi=off to the kernel, but it didn't
>help. But I believe you are in the right direction, something has 
>to be switched off in the kernel, probably something that was not
>in the 2.2 kernel: I have just installed redhat 6.2 and it seems 
>to have no issue with the IDE I/O. Any more ideas ?
>Thanks for your help !

I saw in another message that you were using Western Digital harddrives.
That's why it's failing in my humble opinion.  Disable DMA by passing
ide0=nodma and it should install.  But that's not a reasonable fix due
to the performance hit that incurrs .  Instead I suggest you return
them and get some Maxtor drives.
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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 14:00, Joerg Mertin wrote:
> Thx Franki,
> 
> I'll give it a try. Right now - on all the Mails I have seen tagged as Spam, 
> and I also asked all users to check the Spam-Mails they have received - It 
> didn't happen so far - that a non-Spam Mail was tagged as Spam. Rather the 
> other way around - that Spam-Mail got undetected through the Spam-Filter (I 
> don't know yet of an Easy way to tell Spamassassin that this is a Spam ? (Got 
> version 2.55 :)... Specially some Mails are created where all Tag-Words are 
> disguised - as we use to disguise E-Mails... [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ or only a Gif-File 
> containing the entire Message.
> 
> Has anyone of you automatised Spamassassin - to manually tag undetected Mails 
> ? I mean - having a alias tagspam pointing to user filter filter - that the 
> spamd/spamc are running on - you bounce a Mail to - and the script knows - 
> that everything coming through here _is_ spam - so the bayes part can learn 
> something.
> 
> Anyone of you folks did that already - or will I have to do it myself ;)
> 
> So - I am quite confident that losses would be minimal if I save them on a 
> Local Directory.
> 
> Cheers 
> 
>   Joerg

Joerg,

   One thing you could do.. it could be deadly if you get a lot of
e-mail via Outhook excess.  Filter for and drop all html e-mail.  God
knows it can be an extreme action, but in my case the amount of p0rn
spam and the type of spam was way too much for me to stomach.  So it all
goes into the bit bucket.  

James

> 
> On Wednesday 23 July 2003 21:15, Frankie wrote:
> > ok, well when i get some time, I will knock up a howtoo..
> >
> > (and put it on the twiki) but in answer to one of Joerg's
> > question
> > go to the postfix site and grab the latest snapshot.
> >
> > there is some documentation on the proxy methods.
> > (also the postfix mailing list archives.)
> >
> > rgds
> >
> > Franki
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James
> > Sparenberg
> > Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2003 1:07 AM
> > To: Expert List
> > Subject: Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.
> >
> > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:59, Joerg Mertin wrote:
> > > Hia there,
> > >
> > > so - actually - the new possibility with the Proxy sounds
> >
> > quite interesting,
> >
> > > and are what I was looking for a long time now.
> > >
> > > Does anyone has some hints as what I'd need for it (which
> >
> > version of Postfix
> >
> > > would be required), and some examples - on how to
> >
> > configure all that ?
> >
> > > Of course - a detailed HOWTO would be best :)
> >
> > And of course ... post it in the community TWiki *grin*
> >
> > > Thx for all your Input folks :)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 23 July 2003 12:46, Frankie wrote:
> > > [...lots of intersting stuff deleted...]
> > >
> > >
> > >   Joerg


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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 19:10 schrieb Luca Olivetti:
> Frankie wrote:
> > If the spam get rejected they know that you don't accept the
> > mail. It is up to
> > the sending server to handle the rejection.
>
> OTOH, since spam detection mechanisms are not perfect (and black lists
> based ones are evil), rejecting means you can lose good emails, while
> with filtering you give yourself (and your users) an option to look at
> the spam folder from time to time to see if a good message has been
> flagged as a false positive.
>
> Bye

Jep, thats why we don't delete spam. there was some valid mails (it is realy 
spam too, but the receiver has subscribed to this list) droped by 
spamassassin. So we tag all spam and every user can set up a filter to delete 
the spam by a level she/he wants.

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[expert] como instalar modem agere system em mandrake 9.1

2003-07-23 Thread Wanderley Costa
já tentei com o kppp, sem exito.
baixei alguns drives, também sem exito!

o que fazer agora

linux: mandrake 9.1
modem: agere system

Obrigado.
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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update breaks msec

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 04:08:29PM -0500, AAW wrote:

> > Ummm... let's be a little logical here.
> >
> > Why would you blame the kernel for something in msec?  The kernel
> > touches /boot and /lib/modules... why would it have anything to do
> > with msec?
> >
> > Did you look at line 66 of that file?  What does it say?
> >
> > The previous issue could potentially be attributed to the kernel, but
> > I highly doubt it.  This one I think attributing to the kernel is
> > pretty far-fetched.
> 
> I'm now seeing similar behavior under both the old and new kernels. 
> However, I never saw the behavior before installing 0.24mdk.

Well, I've been running 0.24mdk on two machines for a couple days now and
have yet to see this error.

> kernel-2.4.21-0.24mdk:
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `U': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `y': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `T': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `p': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
> 
> 
> kernel-2.4.21-0.18md:
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `U': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `y': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `T': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `p': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `m': invalid format character
> 
> Below is a list of the packages installed since the last clean admin 
> report 07-22-2003 at 10:11:34 am. The arts packages are rebuilt from 
> cooker SRPMs. I also rebuilt and installed kdelibs (29mdk), but that 
> was after problem showed up.
> 
> libarts-devel-1.1.2-8mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:58 PM CDT
> arts-1.1.2-8mdk  Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:56 PM CDT
> libarts-1.1.2-8mdk   Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:43 PM CDT
> kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.24mdkTue 22 Jul 2003 04:21:12 PM CDT
> kernel-source-2.4.21-0.24mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 04:12:07 PM CDT
> kernel-2.4.21.0.24mdk-1-1mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 02:09:39 PM CDT

Can't tell you here... mixing cooker and stable is not recommended, nor
supported, and I won't be upgrading my system to rule that out.  I have my
doubts that it's arts, but I also really don't see how it could be the
kernel... especially if you boot into 0.18mdk and still have it.

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update breaks msec

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 01:26:27PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:

> > > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
> > > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
> > > 
> > > Nothing has been changed in that file.  This only showed up with the new 
> > > kernel in place.  Please go over the new kernel and release a bugfix for 
> > > these two problems.  Thanks!
> > 
> > Ummm... let's be a little logical here.
> > 
> > Why would you blame the kernel for something in msec?  The kernel touches
> > /boot and /lib/modules... why would it have anything to do with msec?
> > 
> > Did you look at line 66 of that file?  What does it say?
> 
> RPM_VA_CONFIG_DIFF="/var/log/security/rpm-va-config.diff"
> 
> Same as always.

Wierd.

> > The previous issue could potentially be attributed to the kernel, but I
> > highly doubt it.  This one I think attributing to the kernel is pretty
> > far-fetched.
> 
> It might very well be.  All I know is that the ONLY thing that I changed in 
> my system last night was to install the new kernel.  This morning, I get a 
> notice about TONS of files (which get created all the time (news, mail, 
> etc.) being world writable when they never used to be, and the /boot initrd 
> image being world-writable now sure makes it look like that's the culprit.  
> And then I get the other error message that I listed above.

Yeah, it's a combination of the kernel and your fs.  If you were using
kernel-secure *or* XFS, you wouldn't see it.

I still don't get the msec error tho.. that one is a mystery.

> Now, I'm not into blindly blaming a kernel update for all my woes. :-)  
> However, I *am* pretty good at putting 2 and 2 together.  When the ONLY 
> thing that changes is the kernel, and then weird things start to happen, I 
> don't think it's unreasonable to suspect that the kernel update *might* be 
> what's causing that sudden weirdness.

Yeah.  Like I said, I can see the perms business as being the kernel... that
seems to be an established fact.  What I don't see is those msec errors...
that one really has me scratching my head.

> Either way, I appreciate you guys looking into this.

Well, we certainly weren't going to ignore it... =)

At any rate, 24mdk has been removed from the mirrors... it may take some
time, but hopefully it'll get removed before too many others upgrade.

And yeah, we're trying to figure this one out.

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 04:46:09PM -0700, Bryan Whitehead wrote:

> >Ok.  Did a little playing here, using /var/lock/subsys/* as my 
> >determination
> >point.
> >
> >kernel: everything world writeable
> >kernel-secure: normal perms (most everything world readable except syslog
> >IIRC)
> >kernel-enterprise: normal perms
> 
> Enterprise is broken also. Please see my previous post.

I did.  And after looking and it and testing here (and getting secteam to do
some quick testing) we came to the conclusion that kernel-secure and any fs
*or* any kernel and XFS are ok... for the rest, bad news.

> Also, it doesn't seem to be only reiserfs related. NFS has the problem 
> also when no reiserfs is on the system.
> 
> XFS filesystems do not seem to have this problem.

Yes.

> As I said before, I can rekickstart some test machines with any combo of 
> filesystems to test. I'm willing to test new kernels.

At this point, we're waiting.  I had no hand in the kernel updates beyond
testing and coordination.  The kernel folks did all the work on it and I
can't tell from the changelog where the problem may have been introduced,
nor can I determine from the many and varied patches where it may have
creeped in.  We're waiting for Juan to wake up and take a gander at it.

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Re: [expert] OT: regular expression help

2003-07-23 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
John Haywood wrote:

Sorry to ask here -it´s just that I know someone here can fix me up (shameless grovel!!).

I´m in a bit of a bind, trying to recover a corrupt file for a client. 
The first issue is that the file is 1.8gig, so I´m wondering if I´m going to have problems with cat |grep  >outputfile.txt

Do you need the cat?

Someone please tell me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't this work:

grep   > outputfile.txt

One less action to get in the way.

or is there a text editor which could handle that size (I have 512-meg RAM, and I know some editors try to load the whole thing into memory first)

Then the real crunch:

The following is the expression which is given on a website to do exactly what I need:

[^\received: from .*\r

and the second,

[^\t].*\rReceived: from .*\r

but they both appear to have syntax errors!!!

What are the exact strings that you are looking for?  It may be a little 
bit easier to determine what characters you need in your search pattern 
if we knew that.

Can anyone help fix these up please - it´s rather urgent.

Thanks a lot

john

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[expert] Re: ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Norman Zhang
Mandrake Linux Advisory: 24mdk Kernel Update Unsafe

This is an urgent message for all 9.1 users. Please back out of the 24mdk
kernel update and downgrade to 18mdk or 13mdk as soon as you are able. A
problem exists in all kernels (except kernel-secure) where newly created
files are created mode 0666 (world writeable) on any filesystem other than
XFS, including remote NFS mounts.

We are working hard to attempt to get this problem corrected with new
kernels available in the next 24-48hrs.

Thank you.
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RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
Hi Joerg,

I setup two local user accounts on the server.. ham and
spam.

anyone that gets incorrectly detected ham or spam can
"resend"
it to the spam or ham accounts on the server..

and I run a crontabs to process the ham and spam and use it
to
create the bayes DB.

/usr/bin/sa-learn --spam --mbox /var/spool/mail/spam
and
/usr/bin/sa-learn --ham --mbox /var/spool/mail/ham

(I run that as user amavis.)
That way any incorrectly detected mail can be fed back to
bayes and told what it should be.

seems to work great.

One thing you are going to have to do though, is educate
your users
on "resending" or "redirecting" mail as opposed to
forwarding it
which changes the headers.



regards

Franki

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Thx Franki,

I'll give it a try. Right now - on all the Mails I have seen
tagged as Spam,
and I also asked all users to check the Spam-Mails they have
received - It
didn't happen so far - that a non-Spam Mail was tagged as
Spam. Rather the
other way around - that Spam-Mail got undetected through the
Spam-Filter (I
don't know yet of an Easy way to tell Spamassassin that this
is a Spam ? (Got
version 2.55 :)... Specially some Mails are created where
all Tag-Words are
disguised - as we use to disguise E-Mails... [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ or only
a Gif-File
containing the entire Message.

Has anyone of you automatised Spamassassin - to manually tag
undetected Mails
? I mean - having a alias tagspam pointing to user filter
filter - that the
spamd/spamc are running on - you bounce a Mail to - and the
script knows -
that everything coming through here _is_ spam - so the bayes
part can learn
something.

Anyone of you folks did that already - or will I have to do
it myself ;)

So - I am quite confident that losses would be minimal if I
save them on a
Local Directory.

Cheers

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[expert] OT: regular expression help

2003-07-23 Thread John Haywood
Sorry to ask here -it´s just that I know someone here can fix me up (shameless 
grovel!!).

I´m in a bit of a bind, trying to recover a corrupt file for a client. 
The first issue is that the file is 1.8gig, so I´m wondering if I´m going to have 
problems with cat |grep  >outputfile.txt

or is there a text editor which could handle that size (I have 512-meg RAM, and I know 
some editors try to load the whole thing into memory first)

Then the real crunch:

The following is the expression which is given on a website to do exactly what I need:

[^\received: from .*\r

and the second,

[^\t].*\rReceived: from .*\r


but they both appear to have syntax errors!!!

Can anyone help fix these up please - it´s rather urgent.

Thanks a lot

john

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 08:04:26PM -0400, Greg Meyer wrote:

> > Ok.  Did a little playing here, using /var/lock/subsys/* as my
> > determination point.
> >
> > kernel: everything world writeable
> > kernel-secure: normal perms (most everything world readable except syslog
> > IIRC)
> > kernel-enterprise: normal perms
> >
> For additional edification, I did not install the stock update kernel, but 
> instead applied the netraverse win4lin patches and rebuilt using my config 
> file from the -22mdk club kernel (make oldconfig).  I am getting the same 
> symptoms here too.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/lock/subsys]
> # ls -l
> total 4
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 alsa
[...]

> Anything else you want to know from me?  config file, etc.

Nope... I think I've nailed the culprits... the problem is figuring out why.
Unfortunately, since I'm not a kernel hacker, we have to wait on Juan for
this and he's asleep right now.

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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 06:14 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote:

> Tho it's even simpler with a few aliases an the CL ;)

I knew you were gonna say that. 



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Re: [expert] lm_sensors oddity

2003-07-23 Thread AAW
On Sunday 20 July 2003 10:53 am, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
> On Mandrake 9.1, with lm_sensors-2.7.0-2mdk, I have run
> sensors-detect and accepted the default settings.  The oddity is that
> the sensors command, or gkrellm, or ksensors only show the value (at
> least for temps, which is obvious) that exists at boot time.  In
> other words, first boot on a cool morning will show a relatively low
> temp that does not change throughout the session.  Subsequent boots
> will show a, logically, warmer temp that, also, does not vary.  This
> has been the case from the stock kernel through the current
> 2.4.21-0.18mm-mdk.  I've just noticed the following message in syslog
> and wonder if it suggests some clue to anyone?
>
> Jul 20 08:30:53 localhost kernel: i2c-ali1535.o: Resetting entire SMB
> Bus to clear busy co
> ndition (08)
> Jul 20 08:30:53 localhost kernel: i2c-ali1535.o: SMBus reset failed!
> (0x08) - controller o
> r device on bus is probably hung
>
>
> Rolf

Check out /usr/share/doc/lm_sensors-2.7.0/doc/FAQ, #4.11. I haven't 
messed with lm_sensors for a while, but can't you use the ISA bus for 
some chips? I think the option is mentioned during the sensors-detect 
routine.

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[expert] driver/module problem wit 2 NIC of same type (3c59x)

2003-07-23 Thread Vtucatz elPunishar
hi everyone!  
  
 i just installed mdk 9.1 on my router/firewall/server box which of course
has 2  
 network cards.  
 i have 2 3com card, both of the 59x type, one bomerang, one fast
etherlink.. each 
of them alone in the system works great, in fact i am right now online with
the fast  
 etherlink.  
  
 but when i plug the second card into the system, the auto detection seems
to be  
 confused because both are 3c59x cards... it finds them both, but the only
assigns  
 eth0, and this interface doesn't even work then.  
 how can i bypass the mdk control center and enter the new card into the
system  
 manually?  
  
 is this a common problem ?  
 any ideas anyone ?  
 
TIA  
 
 greetings, 
le stu 
 
ps: sorry for breaking the thread 

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 08:30 pm, Charlie wrote:
> -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 tmdns
> -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 xfs
> -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 xinetd
>
> After a reboot to the .22mdk kernel this is what I get. File systems are:

Same here, and I built the -22 kernel myself too.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]
$ uname -r
2.4.21-0.22w4l

> boot ext2
> everything else is Reiser.

I use ext2 for /boot and ext3 for everything else.


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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is worldwritable?

2003-07-23 Thread Charlie
quoting Greg Meyer; Wednesday 23 July 2003 06:04 pm:
 

> For additional edification, I did not install the stock update kernel, but
> instead applied the netraverse win4lin patches and rebuilt using my config
> file from the -22mdk club kernel (make oldconfig).  I am getting the same
> symptoms here too.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/lock/subsys]
> # ls -l
> total 4
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 alsa
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 atd
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 crond
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 cups
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 devfsd
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root4 Jul 23 19:33 dm
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 gpm
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 harddrake
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 internet
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 keytable
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 kheader
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 linuxconf
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 lisa
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 local
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 netfs
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 network
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 nfslock
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 numlock
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 partmon
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 portmap
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 postfix
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 random
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 saslauthd
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 slpd
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 smartd
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 sound
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 sshd
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 syslog
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 webmin
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 xfs
> -rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 xinetd
>
> Anything else you want to know from me?  config file, etc.

cd /var/lock/subsys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] subsys]# ls -l
total 0
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 atd
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 crond
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 devfsd
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 gpm
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 internet
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 keytable
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 kheader
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 linuxconf
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 local
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 network
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 ntpd
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 numlock
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 partmon
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 random
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 shorewall
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 sound
-rw---1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 syslog
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 tmdns
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 xfs
-rw-r--r--1 root root0 Jul 23 16:26 xinetd

After a reboot to the .22mdk kernel this is what I get. File systems are:

boot ext2
everything else is Reiser.

uname -a
Linux h24-66-233-146 2.4.21-0.22mdk #1 Wed Jun 18 01:54:50 CEST 2003 i686 
unknown unknown GNU/Linux

It all still seems weird. I ran this system on XFS for almost two years but 
had to switch back to Reiser during beta phase of 9.1. 

I certainly wish I had the skills/knowledge to help diagnose the trouble.

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Re: [expert] Bug Report: phpgroupware-0.9.14.006-0.1mdk.noarch.rpm not signed

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 07:04:14PM -0500, AAW wrote:

> The recent update package for LM 9.1 (MDKSA-2003:077) is not signed (md5 
> only).

New packages are signed and are being mirrored.  The new md5sums are in the
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[expert] Bug Report: phpgroupware-0.9.14.006-0.1mdk.noarch.rpm not signed

2003-07-23 Thread AAW
The recent update package for LM 9.1 (MDKSA-2003:077) is not signed (md5 
only).

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 06:16 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
>
> Ok.  Did a little playing here, using /var/lock/subsys/* as my
> determination point.
>
> kernel: everything world writeable
> kernel-secure: normal perms (most everything world readable except syslog
> IIRC)
> kernel-enterprise: normal perms
>
For additional edification, I did not install the stock update kernel, but 
instead applied the netraverse win4lin patches and rebuilt using my config 
file from the -22mdk club kernel (make oldconfig).  I am getting the same 
symptoms here too.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/lock/subsys]
# ls -l
total 4
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 alsa
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 atd
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 crond
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 cups
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 devfsd
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root4 Jul 23 19:33 dm
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 gpm
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 harddrake
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 internet
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 keytable
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 kheader
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 linuxconf
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 lisa
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 local
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 netfs
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 network
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 nfslock
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 numlock
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 partmon
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 portmap
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 postfix
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 random
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 saslauthd
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 slpd
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 smartd
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 sound
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 sshd
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 syslog
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 webmin
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:32 xfs
-rw-rw-rw-1 root root0 Jul 23 19:33 xinetd

Anything else you want to know from me?  config file, etc.
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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything isworld writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Bryan Whitehead
Ok.  Did a little playing here, using /var/lock/subsys/* as my determination
point.
kernel: everything world writeable
kernel-secure: normal perms (most everything world readable except syslog
IIRC)
kernel-enterprise: normal perms
Enterprise is broken also. Please see my previous post.

Also, it doesn't seem to be only reiserfs related. NFS has the problem 
also when no reiserfs is on the system.

XFS filesystems do not seem to have this problem.

As I said before, I can rekickstart some test machines with any combo of 
filesystems to test. I'm willing to test new kernels.

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 05:20:12PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote:

> On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 02:34:09PM -0700, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
> 
> > >I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the 
> > >advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new kernel.  
> > >Since, then, any number of processes which used to write files that were 
> > >writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news, mailman as user mail 
> > >and so on) are now writing their files in a world readable setting.  My 
> > >security logs this morning started reporting files in /var/spool/news, 
> > >/var/lock/subsys, /var/run, /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being 
> > >writable.  Checking those directories, I find sure enough that everything 
> > >is -rw-rw-rw-  --  clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please 
> > >look into this and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not 
> > >continue to happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask 
> > >command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason why this 
> > >should be happening.
> > 
> > I have the same problem:
> [...]
> 
> Thanks, Bryan.  This helps.

Ok.

kernel-secure seems safe
XFS filesystems are safe

Any kernel (non-secure) using a fs (non-XFS) will write mode 0666 files...
this includes reiserfs, ext2, ext3, and NFS mounts.

I guess most everyone on secteam uses XFS since that was the fs we were
particularly concerned with due to the ACLs and gdb problems.  Dammit.

Please back out to 18mdk or 13mdk until we get this fixed.  I have to pull
those kernels off the mirror sites now.

Thanks for alerting us to this.  This sort of thing demonstrates the need
for a formal bug tracker for post-release releases.

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Re: [expert] driver/module problem wit 2 NIC of same type (3c59x)

2003-07-23 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 01:04 schrieb Vtucatz elPunishar:
> hi everyone!
>
> i just installed mdk 9.1 on my router/firewall/server box which of course
> has 2
> network cards.
> i have 2 3com card, both of the 59x type, one bomerang, one fast
> etherlink.. each of
> them alone in the system works great, in fact i am right now online with
> the fast
> etherlink.
>
> but when i plug the second card into the system, the auto detection seems
> tu be
> confused because both are 3c59x cards... it finds them both, but the only
> assigns
> eth0, and this interface doesn't even work then.
> how can i bypass the mdk control center and enter the new card into the
> system
> manually?
>
> is this a common problem ?
> any ideas anyone ?

For any idea it to late here at the moment, but you should really try to write 
a new mail instead of replying to an existing mail and delete all from that 
mail. You are breaking threads >:(

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 02:34:09PM -0700, Bryan Whitehead wrote:

> >I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the 
> >advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new kernel.  
> >Since, then, any number of processes which used to write files that were 
> >writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news, mailman as user mail 
> >and so on) are now writing their files in a world readable setting.  My 
> >security logs this morning started reporting files in /var/spool/news, 
> >/var/lock/subsys, /var/run, /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being 
> >writable.  Checking those directories, I find sure enough that everything 
> >is -rw-rw-rw-  --  clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please 
> >look into this and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not 
> >continue to happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask 
> >command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason why this 
> >should be happening.
> 
> I have the same problem:
[...]

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[expert] vnstat & cron (fixed)

2003-07-23 Thread Colin Jenkins
Hello All,



>> Colin Jenkins wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> when I run 'vnstat  >/var/www/html/usage' from a shell, I get a text
>>> file with the correct output. When I run the same
>>> as a cron task, it outputs a blank file.

Thanks for the feedback.
when I added the path,  /usr/local/bin/vnstat >/var/www/html/usage  it worked .
why does the cron task need the path (when run as root)when it doesn't
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[expert] driver/module problem wit 2 NIC of same type (3c59x)

2003-07-23 Thread Vtucatz elPunishar
hi everyone! 
 
i just installed mdk 9.1 on my router/firewall/server box which of course
has 2 
network cards. 
i have 2 3com card, both of the 59x type, one bomerang, one fast etherlink..
each of 
them alone in the system works great, in fact i am right now online with the
fast 
etherlink. 
 
but when i plug the second card into the system, the auto detection seems tu
be 
confused because both are 3c59x cards... it finds them both, but the only
assigns 
eth0, and this interface doesn't even work then. 
how can i bypass the mdk control center and enter the new card into the
system 
manually? 
 
is this a common problem ?  
any ideas anyone ? 
 
TIA 
 
greetings, 
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Re: [expert] MSI K7D Master

2003-07-23 Thread Larry Sword
Stephane Junique wrote:

Hello Larry,

I indeed saw several reports of ASUS A7M266-D running Linux on the 
net, which is why I bought an AMD bi-proc mobo in the first place: 
I was sure that it would work smoothly...
Very strange, this WD drive stuff. I also have a WD drive ! The 
120GB model with 8MB of cache. But the same happens with my older 
IBM 10GB and my Fujitsu 40GB (just tested tonight for the Fujitsu)

I think my EEC settings are OK, I can choose between no EEC, detection,
detection+correction or something else that I don't remember. I tried 
no ECC and correction, it made no difference.

The processor is in socket 1, as recommended by MSI

I am now testing with a Redhat 6.2 CD (I didn't know Mandrake 
at that time :-) and it seems to work allright. That's a 
2.2.14 kernel. I strongly suspect that something in the 2.4 kernel
has to be switched off, but I can't figure what... Any ideas ?

Thanks for your help !

Stephane

Sounds like an io problem, try installing by passing the noauto switch.
That is when installing hit F1 and "linux noauto" this will bypass the 
hardware detection.

G'Luck

Larry


 

I don't have the same motherboard but the AMD 768 works just fine on the 
Asus A7M266-D. On this machine I run 2x AMD2400+ with Matrox drives. Had 
a problem with one machine with the same problems installing linux, it 
was on a WD drive, it simply would not install.

You might double check your BIOS settings for the memory EEC settings.

BTW which cpu socket are you using? Not sure if it makes any difference.

???

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 03:29:29PM -0600, Charlie wrote:

> Would a copy of /var/log/security/writable.diff help? There's a *lot* of files 
> that weren't writable that are now. 8.5 kB to be exact. I do believe I'm 
> going to boot back to .22mdk. Or .18mdk. At least until somebody figures this 
> out.
> 
> Let me know what, and where, to send diffs etc., I think investigating this is 
> probably more important at the moment than installing 9.2beta1; which is what 
> I had planned for this afternoon.

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 01:26:27PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:

> Glad to see you're still on the list, Vincent. :-)

Someone has to make sure you guys behave.. =)

> > > I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the 
> > > advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new kernel.  
> > > Since, then, any number of processes which used to write files that were 
> > > writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news, mailman as user mail 
> > > and so on) are now writing their files in a world readable setting.  My 
> > > security logs this morning started reporting files in /var/spool/news, 
> > > /var/lock/subsys, /var/run, /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being 
> > > writable.  Checking those directories, I find sure enough that everything 
> > > is -rw-rw-rw-  --  clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please 
> > > look into this and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not 
> > > continue to happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask 
> > > command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason why this 
> > > should be happening.
> > 
> > We've not seen this at all during testing.  Which kernel did you install?
> > secure, up, smp, etc...  uname -a would be good.
> 
> uname -a won't be of any help now, because I've reverted back to the prior 
> kernel (2.4.21-0.18mdk).  Not smp, secure or anthing else.  Just kernel-
> 2.4.21-0.18mdk.  Same for the new version, which is 2.4.21-0.24mdk, which 
> was installed from kernel-2.4.21.0.24mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.

Ok.  So normal kernel.

> > That is really really wierd.
> > 
> > Just ran msec here and it just shows me that my initrd is world-writable so
> > I don't think your problem is due to the kernel.
> 
> The initrd file never *used* to be world-writable  Not until this 
> release of the kernel, anyway.  Personally, I would consider that a bad 
> sign.

Agreed.  I'm really not sure why the initrd's are written world writeable.

> > cc'ing this to Juan just so he can check as well.
> 
> Me, too, so that he can see the followup.

Ok.  Did a little playing here, using /var/lock/subsys/* as my determination
point.

kernel: everything world writeable
kernel-secure: normal perms (most everything world readable except syslog
IIRC)
kernel-enterprise: normal perms

This leads me to believe there is something wrong with the regular kernel.
I also have reiserfs for my / partition, so possibly it has something to do
with reiserfs, I'm not sure.  Checked my vmware test install and it has
reiserfs as well, so that isn't conclusive.

Ok, just checked my 9.1/PPC machine with ext2 as the / and it has the same
issue.

There is definitely something wrong with the up (normal) kernel.

I'm going to fire off an email on the announce mailing list indicating to
people to either back out of 24mdk or use the enterprise/secure kernels (if
someone is using a smp kernel, can you please tell me if you get the same
behaviour?).

Juan will have to look at this first thing tomorrow so we can hopefully get
a fixed up kernel out ASAP.

On a side note, I don't see your msec issue here at all, even with the up
kernel so I'm really not sure if that is a kernel problem or not.

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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday July 23 2003 03:00 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 7:52 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:

> > Hmm, I've always liked Gcombust. Works great "out of the box"
> > here. Of course, as T. Brinkman says, nothing works as good (or
> > reliable) as doing it from a shell. :-)
>
> I haven't tried Gcombust.  I'll have a play with it when I have
> time
>
> Anne

   You might try simplecdrx-1.3.1-1mdk.i586.rpm

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is worldwritable?

2003-07-23 Thread Charlie
quoting AAW; Wednesday 23 July 2003 02:48 pm:


> I'm seeing the same thing. Below is a copy of my post on aolm.

Here too. I just installed the new kernel yesterday morning when I had to boot 
after a power outage. I didn't even think to check until just now. There are 
a lot of differences versus the previous; 

kernel-2.4.21.0.22mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 

that I was using.
>
> 
> Situation:
> I upgraded to the latest kernel for LM 9.1, downloaded from
> ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/Mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS.
> After checking gpg and md5 (rpm -K), I installed
> kernel-2.4.21.0.24mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm (rpm -iv),
> kernel-source-2.4.21-0.24mdk.i586.rpm (rpm -iv --oldpackage) and
> freshened kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.24mdk.i586.rpm (rpm -Fv). I then
> rebooted and made the NVIDIA drivers for the new kernel. Everything
> seemed to work as expected. My system is LM 9.1 with all updates plus a
> few packages rebuilt from cooker SRPMs (mainly autoconf, automake,
> XFree86, and KDE). The updated kernel is the only change I made in the
> last 24 hours.
>
> Problem:
> All new files are now created with 0666 (rw-rw-rw-) permissions. Umask
> for user and root are correctly set (0077 and 0022 respectively) but
> are ignored. Directories are created with the correct permissions. When
> I reboot with the old kernel (2.4.21-0.18mdk) everything works as it
> should.
>
> Could someone who's upgraded to the latest kernel please check for this
> behavior. World-writable root-owned files is a serious security hole.
> 
>
> I've had one confirmation so far. I'm also seeing the problem Dave
> reported with msec. I'm currently running /etc/cron.daily/msec under
> kernel-2.4.21-0.18mdk to see whether it is indeed the kernel. I'll post
> the results under that thread when it completes.
>
> Arn

Would a copy of /var/log/security/writable.diff help? There's a *lot* of files 
that weren't writable that are now. 8.5 kB to be exact. I do believe I'm 
going to boot back to .22mdk. Or .18mdk. At least until somebody figures this 
out.

Let me know what, and where, to send diffs etc., I think investigating this is 
probably more important at the moment than installing 9.2beta1; which is what 
I had planned for this afternoon.

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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Joerg Mertin
Thx Franki,

I'll give it a try. Right now - on all the Mails I have seen tagged as Spam, 
and I also asked all users to check the Spam-Mails they have received - It 
didn't happen so far - that a non-Spam Mail was tagged as Spam. Rather the 
other way around - that Spam-Mail got undetected through the Spam-Filter (I 
don't know yet of an Easy way to tell Spamassassin that this is a Spam ? (Got 
version 2.55 :)... Specially some Mails are created where all Tag-Words are 
disguised - as we use to disguise E-Mails... [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ or only a Gif-File 
containing the entire Message.

Has anyone of you automatised Spamassassin - to manually tag undetected Mails 
? I mean - having a alias tagspam pointing to user filter filter - that the 
spamd/spamc are running on - you bounce a Mail to - and the script knows - 
that everything coming through here _is_ spam - so the bayes part can learn 
something.

Anyone of you folks did that already - or will I have to do it myself ;)

So - I am quite confident that losses would be minimal if I save them on a 
Local Directory.

Cheers 

Joerg

On Wednesday 23 July 2003 21:15, Frankie wrote:
> ok, well when i get some time, I will knock up a howtoo..
>
> (and put it on the twiki) but in answer to one of Joerg's
> question
> go to the postfix site and grab the latest snapshot.
>
> there is some documentation on the proxy methods.
> (also the postfix mailing list archives.)
>
> rgds
>
> Franki
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James
> Sparenberg
> Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2003 1:07 AM
> To: Expert List
> Subject: Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:59, Joerg Mertin wrote:
> > Hia there,
> >
> > so - actually - the new possibility with the Proxy sounds
>
> quite interesting,
>
> > and are what I was looking for a long time now.
> >
> > Does anyone has some hints as what I'd need for it (which
>
> version of Postfix
>
> > would be required), and some examples - on how to
>
> configure all that ?
>
> > Of course - a detailed HOWTO would be best :)
>
> And of course ... post it in the community TWiki *grin*
>
> > Thx for all your Input folks :)
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday 23 July 2003 12:46, Frankie wrote:
> > [...lots of intersting stuff deleted...]
> >
> >
> > Joerg

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Re: [expert] MSI K7D Master

2003-07-23 Thread Stephane Junique
Hello Todd,

Thank you for your answer.
I tried to pass noapic and acpi=off to the kernel, but it didn't
help. But I believe you are in the right direction, something has 
to be switched off in the kernel, probably something that was not
in the 2.2 kernel: I have just installed redhat 6.2 and it seems 
to have no issue with the IDE I/O. Any more ideas ?
Thanks for your help !

Stephane


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> >I can't seem to install Linux on this system. I tried
> >Mandrake 9.1, 8.2, as well as several RedHat distributions.
> >Most of the time, the installation stops with "I/O error, impossible
> >to read blablabla.rpm" (or some similar message) and sometimes
> 
> Pass "noapic" to the linux kernel.  Also "noacpi" or "acpi=off" seem to
> fix a lot of things, but I don't think that has anything to do with your
> case.
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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread AAW
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 03:28 pm, David Guntner wrote:
> > Also, what are the filesystems in question? Unfortunately my
> > mirrors in GMT-8 still haven't caught up so I can't do any
> > verification yet.
>
> Assuming I understand your question correctly, I'm using ReiserFS for
> all filesystems except /boot, which is ext2.

Precisely the same set up: reiserfs for /, /home; ext2 for /boot.

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything isworld writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Bryan Whitehead
David Guntner wrote:
I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the 
advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new kernel.  
Since, then, any number of processes which used to write files that were 
writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news, mailman as user mail 
and so on) are now writing their files in a world readable setting.  My 
security logs this morning started reporting files in /var/spool/news, 
/var/lock/subsys, /var/run, /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being 
writable.  Checking those directories, I find sure enough that everything 
is -rw-rw-rw-  --  clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please 
look into this and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not 
continue to happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask 
command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason why this 
should be happening.
I have the same problem:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ uname -r
2.4.21-0.24mdkenterprise
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ touch test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ ls -al test
-rw-rw-rw-1 driver   sa  0 Jul 23 14:25 test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ pwd
/var/tmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ cd /export/home/build/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] build]$ touch test.touch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] build]$ ls -al test.touch
-rw-r--r--1 driver   sa  0 Jul 23 14:27 test.touch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] build]$ pwd
/export/home/build
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ cd ~
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ touch test.touch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -al test.touch
-rw-rw-rw-1 driver   sa  0 Jul 23 14:27 test.touch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ umask
22
/var/tmp is reiserfs
/export/home is xfs
/home/driver aka ~ is nfs mount to a Solaris 8 server.
xfs doesn't seem to have the problem

here is on -smp of the same kernel:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ uname -r
2.4.21-0.24mdksmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ touch test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ ls -al test
-rw-r--r--1 driver   sa  0 Jul 23 14:30 test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ pwd
/var/tmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]$ cd ~
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ touch test.touch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -al test.touch
-rw-rw-rw-1 driver   sa  0 Jul 23 14:31 test.touch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ umask
22
/var/tmp is xfs
/home/driver aka ~ is nfs mount to a Solaris 8 server.
This machine has no reiserfs.

xfs has no problems, nfs still does.

let me know if you need more test cases, I can rekickstart test machines 
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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Miark
Try deleting the .xcdroast/ directory.

Miark



On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:33:48 +0100, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lately whenever I start xcdroast the create cd page opens with the 
> CD/Image Info selected.  This results in a wait of a minute or so 
> before I can do anything.  Has anyone else had this problem, and is 
> there a fix?  I think it has been ever since I installed the version 
> in 9.1, but I'm not sure.
> 
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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update breaks msec

2003-07-23 Thread David Guntner
Vincent Danen grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

> On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 12:21:27PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
> 
> > (Again, this is in the hopes that someone from Mandrake is still reading 
> > this list)
> > 
> > Well, at least partially. :-)
> > 
> > In addition to the other error I reported regarding the new kernel (2.4.21-
> > 0.24mdk) causing all files to be written as world writable, I noticed 
> > something else in my system processes.  My morning E-Mail from my nightly 
> > cron jobs reported:
> > 
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
> > 
> > Nothing has been changed in that file.  This only showed up with the new 
> > kernel in place.  Please go over the new kernel and release a bugfix for 
> > these two problems.  Thanks!
> 
> Ummm... let's be a little logical here.
> 
> Why would you blame the kernel for something in msec?  The kernel touches
> /boot and /lib/modules... why would it have anything to do with msec?
> 
> Did you look at line 66 of that file?  What does it say?

RPM_VA_CONFIG_DIFF="/var/log/security/rpm-va-config.diff"

Same as always.

> The previous issue could potentially be attributed to the kernel, but I
> highly doubt it.  This one I think attributing to the kernel is pretty
> far-fetched.

It might very well be.  All I know is that the ONLY thing that I changed in 
my system last night was to install the new kernel.  This morning, I get a 
notice about TONS of files (which get created all the time (news, mail, 
etc.) being world writable when they never used to be, and the /boot initrd 
image being world-writable now sure makes it look like that's the culprit.  
And then I get the other error message that I listed above.

Now, I'm not into blindly blaming a kernel update for all my woes. :-)  
However, I *am* pretty good at putting 2 and 2 together.  When the ONLY 
thing that changes is the kernel, and then weird things start to happen, I 
don't think it's unreasonable to suspect that the kernel update *might* be 
what's causing that sudden weirdness.

Either way, I appreciate you guys looking into this.

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Re: [expert] [OT] Microsoft is a platinum sponsor for LinuxWorldMalaysia 2003 - eh?

2003-07-23 Thread Charlie
quoting Carroll Grigsby; Tuesday 22 July 2003 06:06 pm:
> snip

> Charlie:
> Do like I did. Postpone that stroke by taking advantage of the [OT] tag on
> this thread and set (yet another) filter. I'll grant that it's not much
> help for a list member who is paying for every byte that comes down his
> 26.4 line, but it certainly has done me a world of good.

Feasible suggestion; but I don't believe it should be necessary to filter out 
addresses or subjects. Especially the subject [OT] since often someone will 
post a link to an interesting article. Filtering senders is even _less_ 
palatable to me since if I do that I miss something of benefit.

If my ISP would allow POP filtering it would be a better way to handle this.
>
> Speaking of offending people: Guys my age would rather not discuss uptime.

lol

> -- cmg

I humbly beg forgiveness for the offencive message. 

As I'm creeping up on the half  century mark myself I can fully relate to your 
comment. It won't happen again. ;-)

I'll shut up and prepare to install beta1 now. Working on rsyncing the last 
ISO as I send this.

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Re: [expert] [OT] Microsoft is a platinum sponsor for LinuxWorldMalaysia 2003 - eh?

2003-07-23 Thread Richard Bown


There is'nt anyone on this list who has'nt at some time been a victim of
microsoft.

Do you really expect comments not to be made ?
I really get angry at work with that rubbish S/w and the attitude of
managers who think the sun shines out of BG's bum, and wont even
consider linux.

Strange that ms make comments like the original thread, when they made
the opposite  over Munich !

Linux is at last starting to mature, there are very few apps which cant
be run on linux that have equivilant ms fuctions.I have now scapped the
windows PC as I no longer needa dedicated machine for win progs.


enuf I think you get what I'm trying to say


Richard
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 21:17, Charlie wrote:
> quoting Carroll Grigsby; Tuesday 22 July 2003 06:06 pm:
> > snip
> 
> > Charlie:
> > Do like I did. Postpone that stroke by taking advantage of the [OT] tag on
> > this thread and set (yet another) filter. I'll grant that it's not much
> > help for a list member who is paying for every byte that comes down his
> > 26.4 line, but it certainly has done me a world of good.
> 
> Feasible suggestion; but I don't believe it should be necessary to filter out 
> addresses or subjects. Especially the subject [OT] since often someone will 
> post a link to an interesting article. Filtering senders is even _less_ 
> palatable to me since if I do that I miss something of benefit.
> 
> If my ISP would allow POP filtering it would be a better way to handle this.
> >
> > Speaking of offending people: Guys my age would rather not discuss uptime.
> 
> lol
> 
> > -- cmg
> 
> I humbly beg forgiveness for the offencive message. 
> 
> As I'm creeping up on the half  century mark myself I can fully relate to your 
> comment. It won't happen again. ;-)
> 
> I'll shut up and prepare to install beta1 now. Working on rsyncing the last 
> ISO as I send this.
> 
> Peace;
> C.
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Re: [expert] MSI K7D Master

2003-07-23 Thread Stephane Junique
Hello Larry,

I indeed saw several reports of ASUS A7M266-D running Linux on the 
net, which is why I bought an AMD bi-proc mobo in the first place: 
I was sure that it would work smoothly...
Very strange, this WD drive stuff. I also have a WD drive ! The 
120GB model with 8MB of cache. But the same happens with my older 
IBM 10GB and my Fujitsu 40GB (just tested tonight for the Fujitsu)

I think my EEC settings are OK, I can choose between no EEC, detection,
detection+correction or something else that I don't remember. I tried 
no ECC and correction, it made no difference.

The processor is in socket 1, as recommended by MSI

I am now testing with a Redhat 6.2 CD (I didn't know Mandrake 
at that time :-) and it seems to work allright. That's a 
2.2.14 kernel. I strongly suspect that something in the 2.4 kernel
has to be switched off, but I can't figure what... Any ideas ?

Thanks for your help !

Stephane

> I don't have the same motherboard but the AMD 768 works just fine on the 
> Asus A7M266-D. On this machine I run 2x AMD2400+ with Matrox drives. Had 
> a problem with one machine with the same problems installing linux, it 
> was on a WD drive, it simply would not install.
> 
> You might double check your BIOS settings for the memory EEC settings.
> 
> BTW which cpu socket are you using? Not sure if it makes any difference.
> 
> ???
> 
> Larry
> 

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update breaks msec

2003-07-23 Thread AAW
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 02:32 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 12:21:27PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
> > (Again, this is in the hopes that someone from Mandrake is still
> > reading this list)
> >
> > Well, at least partially. :-)
> >
> > In addition to the other error I reported regarding the new kernel
> > (2.4.21- 0.24mdk) causing all files to be written as world
> > writable, I noticed something else in my system processes.  My
> > morning E-Mail from my nightly cron jobs reported:
> >
> > /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format
> > character /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid
> > format character /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@':
> > invalid format character /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf:
> > `m': invalid format character
> >
> > Nothing has been changed in that file.  This only showed up with
> > the new kernel in place.  Please go over the new kernel and release
> > a bugfix for these two problems.  Thanks!
>
> Ummm... let's be a little logical here.
>
> Why would you blame the kernel for something in msec?  The kernel
> touches /boot and /lib/modules... why would it have anything to do
> with msec?
>
> Did you look at line 66 of that file?  What does it say?
>
> The previous issue could potentially be attributed to the kernel, but
> I highly doubt it.  This one I think attributing to the kernel is
> pretty far-fetched.

I'm now seeing similar behavior under both the old and new kernels. 
However, I never saw the behavior before installing 0.24mdk.

kernel-2.4.21-0.24mdk:
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `U': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `y': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `T': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `p': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character


kernel-2.4.21-0.18md:
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `U': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `y': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `T': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `p': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 69: printf: `m': invalid format character

Below is a list of the packages installed since the last clean admin 
report 07-22-2003 at 10:11:34 am. The arts packages are rebuilt from 
cooker SRPMs. I also rebuilt and installed kdelibs (29mdk), but that 
was after problem showed up.

libarts-devel-1.1.2-8mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:58 PM CDT
arts-1.1.2-8mdk  Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:56 PM CDT
libarts-1.1.2-8mdk   Tue 22 Jul 2003 09:58:43 PM CDT
kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.24mdkTue 22 Jul 2003 04:21:12 PM CDT
kernel-source-2.4.21-0.24mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 04:12:07 PM CDT
kernel-2.4.21.0.24mdk-1-1mdk Tue 22 Jul 2003 02:09:39 PM CDT

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread AAW
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 02:26 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 11:56:14AM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
> > I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the
> > advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new
> > kernel. Since, then, any number of processes which used to write
> > files that were writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news,
> > mailman as user mail and so on) are now writing their files in a
> > world readable setting.  My security logs this morning started
> > reporting files in /var/spool/news, /var/lock/subsys, /var/run,
> > /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being writable.  Checking those
> > directories, I find sure enough that everything is -rw-rw-rw-  -- 
> > clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please look into this
> > and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not continue to
> > happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask
> > command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason
> > why this should be happening.
>
> We've not seen this at all during testing.  Which kernel did you
> install? secure, up, smp, etc...  uname -a would be good.
>
> That is really really wierd.
>
> Just ran msec here and it just shows me that my initrd is
> world-writable so I don't think your problem is due to the kernel.
>
> cc'ing this to Juan just so he can check as well.

I'm seeing the same thing. Below is a copy of my post on aolm.


Situation:
I upgraded to the latest kernel for LM 9.1, downloaded from
ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux/Mandrake/updates/9.1/RPMS.
After checking gpg and md5 (rpm -K), I installed
kernel-2.4.21.0.24mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm (rpm -iv),
kernel-source-2.4.21-0.24mdk.i586.rpm (rpm -iv --oldpackage) and
freshened kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.24mdk.i586.rpm (rpm -Fv). I then
rebooted and made the NVIDIA drivers for the new kernel. Everything
seemed to work as expected. My system is LM 9.1 with all updates plus a
few packages rebuilt from cooker SRPMs (mainly autoconf, automake,
XFree86, and KDE). The updated kernel is the only change I made in the
last 24 hours.

Problem:
All new files are now created with 0666 (rw-rw-rw-) permissions. Umask
for user and root are correctly set (0077 and 0022 respectively) but
are ignored. Directories are created with the correct permissions. When
I reboot with the old kernel (2.4.21-0.18mdk) everything works as it
should.

Could someone who's upgraded to the latest kernel please check for this
behavior. World-writable root-owned files is a serious security hole.


I've had one confirmation so far. I'm also seeing the problem Dave 
reported with msec. I'm currently running /etc/cron.daily/msec under 
kernel-2.4.21-0.18mdk to see whether it is indeed the kernel. I'll post 
the results under that thread when it completes.

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread David Guntner
Jack Coates grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:26, Vincent Danen wrote:
> > On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 11:56:14AM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
> > 
> > > I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the 
> > > advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new kernel.  
> > > Since, then, any number of processes which used to write files that were 
> > > writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news, mailman as user mail 
> > > and so on) are now writing their files in a world readable setting.  My 
> > > security logs this morning started reporting files in /var/spool/news, 
> > > /var/lock/subsys, /var/run, /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being 
> > > writable.  Checking those directories, I find sure enough that everything 
> > > is -rw-rw-rw-  --  clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please 
> > > look into this and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not 
> > > continue to happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask 
> > > command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason why this 
> > > should be happening.
> > 
> > We've not seen this at all during testing.  Which kernel did you install?
> > secure, up, smp, etc...  uname -a would be good.
> 
> Also, what are the filesystems in question? Unfortunately my mirrors in
> GMT-8 still haven't caught up so I can't do any verification yet.

Assuming I understand your question correctly, I'm using ReiserFS for all 
filesystems except /boot, which is ext2.

If that wasn't your question, please clarify. :-)

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything isworld writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:26, Vincent Danen wrote:
> On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 11:56:14AM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
> 
> > I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the 
> > advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new kernel.  
> > Since, then, any number of processes which used to write files that were 
> > writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news, mailman as user mail 
> > and so on) are now writing their files in a world readable setting.  My 
> > security logs this morning started reporting files in /var/spool/news, 
> > /var/lock/subsys, /var/run, /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being 
> > writable.  Checking those directories, I find sure enough that everything 
> > is -rw-rw-rw-  --  clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please 
> > look into this and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not 
> > continue to happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask 
> > command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason why this 
> > should be happening.
> 
> We've not seen this at all during testing.  Which kernel did you install?
> secure, up, smp, etc...  uname -a would be good.
> 

Also, what are the filesystems in question? Unfortunately my mirrors in
GMT-8 still haven't caught up so I can't do any verification yet.

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread David Guntner
Vincent Danen grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

Glad to see you're still on the list, Vincent. :-)

> On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 11:56:14AM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
> 
> > I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the 
> > advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new kernel.  
> > Since, then, any number of processes which used to write files that were 
> > writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news, mailman as user mail 
> > and so on) are now writing their files in a world readable setting.  My 
> > security logs this morning started reporting files in /var/spool/news, 
> > /var/lock/subsys, /var/run, /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being 
> > writable.  Checking those directories, I find sure enough that everything 
> > is -rw-rw-rw-  --  clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please 
> > look into this and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not 
> > continue to happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask 
> > command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason why this 
> > should be happening.
> 
> We've not seen this at all during testing.  Which kernel did you install?
> secure, up, smp, etc...  uname -a would be good.

uname -a won't be of any help now, because I've reverted back to the prior 
kernel (2.4.21-0.18mdk).  Not smp, secure or anthing else.  Just kernel-
2.4.21-0.18mdk.  Same for the new version, which is 2.4.21-0.24mdk, which 
was installed from kernel-2.4.21.0.24mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm.

> That is really really wierd.
> 
> Just ran msec here and it just shows me that my initrd is world-writable so
> I don't think your problem is due to the kernel.

The initrd file never *used* to be world-writable  Not until this 
release of the kernel, anyway.  Personally, I would consider that a bad 
sign.

> cc'ing this to Juan just so he can check as well.

Me, too, so that he can see the followup.

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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 7:52 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 July 2003 12:01 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote:
> > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >Hmm - I think it still holds on a while even if there's nothing
> > > in the drive.  I must admit I do sometimes put a blank in
> > > before firing up, though.  Anyway, I'll not do that next time,
> > > and see if it cuts the waiting time.
> >
> > Yup, it will do that even if empty. But it'll time out a lot
> > faster without the disk. I've been looking at other burner
> > applications but still prefer xcdroast overall.
>
> Hmm, I've always liked Gcombust. Works great "out of the box" here.
> Of course, as T. Brinkman says, nothing works as good (or reliable)
> as doing it from a shell. :-)

I haven't tried Gcombust.  I'll have a play with it when I have time

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[expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread David Guntner
I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the 
advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new kernel.  
Since, then, any number of processes which used to write files that were 
writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news, mailman as user mail 
and so on) are now writing their files in a world readable setting.  My 
security logs this morning started reporting files in /var/spool/news, 
/var/lock/subsys, /var/run, /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being 
writable.  Checking those directories, I find sure enough that everything 
is -rw-rw-rw-  --  clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please 
look into this and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not 
continue to happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask 
command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason why this 
should be happening.

Thanks!

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update breaks msec

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 12:21:27PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:

> (Again, this is in the hopes that someone from Mandrake is still reading 
> this list)
> 
> Well, at least partially. :-)
> 
> In addition to the other error I reported regarding the new kernel (2.4.21-
> 0.24mdk) causing all files to be written as world writable, I noticed 
> something else in my system processes.  My morning E-Mail from my nightly 
> cron jobs reported:
> 
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
> /etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
> 
> Nothing has been changed in that file.  This only showed up with the new 
> kernel in place.  Please go over the new kernel and release a bugfix for 
> these two problems.  Thanks!

Ummm... let's be a little logical here.

Why would you blame the kernel for something in msec?  The kernel touches
/boot and /lib/modules... why would it have anything to do with msec?

Did you look at line 66 of that file?  What does it say?

The previous issue could potentially be attributed to the kernel, but I
highly doubt it.  This one I think attributing to the kernel is pretty
far-fetched.

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Re: [expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update and then everything is world writable?

2003-07-23 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jul 23, 2003 at 11:56:14AM -0700, David Guntner wrote:

> I hope someone from Mandrake is still reading this list.  I got the 
> advisary for the new kernel in my mail, and installed the new kernel.  
> Since, then, any number of processes which used to write files that were 
> writable only by themselves (leafnode as user news, mailman as user mail 
> and so on) are now writing their files in a world readable setting.  My 
> security logs this morning started reporting files in /var/spool/news, 
> /var/lock/subsys, /var/run, /var/lib/mailman/lists and so on as being 
> writable.  Checking those directories, I find sure enough that everything 
> is -rw-rw-rw-  --  clearly, this is not acceptable!  Can someone please 
> look into this and fix it and issue a new kernel?  This needs to not 
> continue to happen.  When I su to the user IDs in question and do a umask 
> command, I see 0022 like it should be - so I can't see any reason why this 
> should be happening.

We've not seen this at all during testing.  Which kernel did you install?
secure, up, smp, etc...  uname -a would be good.

That is really really wierd.

Just ran msec here and it just shows me that my initrd is world-writable so
I don't think your problem is due to the kernel.

cc'ing this to Juan just so he can check as well.

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[expert] ATTN MANDRAKE: Kernel update breaks msec

2003-07-23 Thread David Guntner
(Again, this is in the hopes that someone from Mandrake is still reading 
this list)

Well, at least partially. :-)

In addition to the other error I reported regarding the new kernel (2.4.21-
0.24mdk) causing all files to be written as world writable, I noticed 
something else in my system processes.  My morning E-Mail from my nightly 
cron jobs reported:

/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `@': invalid format character
/etc/cron.daily/msec: line 66: printf: `m': invalid format character

Nothing has been changed in that file.  This only showed up with the new 
kernel in place.  Please go over the new kernel and release a bugfix for 
these two problems.  Thanks!

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RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
ok, well when i get some time, I will knock up a howtoo..

(and put it on the twiki) but in answer to one of Joerg's
question
go to the postfix site and grab the latest snapshot.

there is some documentation on the proxy methods.
(also the postfix mailing list archives.)

rgds

Franki

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On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:59, Joerg Mertin wrote:
> Hia there,
>
> so - actually - the new possibility with the Proxy sounds
quite interesting,
> and are what I was looking for a long time now.
>
> Does anyone has some hints as what I'd need for it (which
version of Postfix
> would be required), and some examples - on how to
configure all that ?
> Of course - a detailed HOWTO would be best :)

And of course ... post it in the community TWiki *grin*

>
> Thx for all your Input folks :)
>
>
> On Wednesday 23 July 2003 12:46, Frankie wrote:
> [...lots of intersting stuff deleted...]
>
>
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Re: [expert] Avoiding NFS clients Hang when NFS server dies

2003-07-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 01:47 pm, Tru64 User wrote:

> None of these are a cure. Any additional suggestions
> out there?
>
> _Thanks
>
> Richard

Hmm, never tried this (think I'll go try in a minute though) but is it 
possible to put a line like:

umount // > /dev/null

into one of the shutdown/end scripts on the clients so that if a server is 
down, then it doesn't hang...and sending the output to /dev/null so that if 
the directory wasn't nfs mounted you don't get an error message? I've got a 
small 3 comp lan here that I use nfs with. I'll go play with that and see 
what happens.

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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 12:01 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> >Hmm - I think it still holds on a while even if there's nothing in the
> >drive.  I must admit I do sometimes put a blank in before firing up,
> >though.  Anyway, I'll not do that next time, and see if it cuts the
> >waiting time.
>
> Yup, it will do that even if empty. But it'll time out a lot faster
> without the disk. I've been looking at other burner applications but
> still prefer xcdroast overall.

Hmm, I've always liked Gcombust. Works great "out of the box" here. Of course, 
as T. Brinkman says, nothing works as good (or reliable) as doing it from a 
shell. :-)

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RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
yup, right you are...

but you can set spamassassin to only reject mail over a
certain threshold, and just
tag the rest as spam..

I have mine setup to quarantine spam with a score over 20..
and it has yet to catch any
non spam. (I have tagging setup to 4.5 or over) I am only
using quarintine at the moment
so I can make sure its all good. and so far, (about 80,000
mails have gone through it)
its all been good.

Since in order to do rejects the proxy has already received
the mail
in order to scan it, its probably possible to have it saved
to a quaranteen dir as well.

That way you could retrieve mail if it was mis assigned.

Obviously you would play with the tag/reject numbers till
you find a good compromise..
and it wouldn't reject all spam.. but it would get the worst
ones..and with bayes, it
will reject any that you "know" are spam.


regards

Franki

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Frankie wrote:

> If the spam get rejected they know that you don't accept
the
> mail. It is up to
> the sending server to handle the rejection.

OTOH, since spam detection mechanisms are not perfect (and
black lists
based ones are evil), rejecting means you can lose good
emails, while
with filtering you give yourself (and your users) an option
to look at
the spam folder from time to time to see if a good message
has been
flagged as a false positive.

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Re: [expert] vnstat & cron

2003-07-23 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:

Colin Jenkins wrote:

Hello all,
when I run 'vnstat  >/var/www/html/usage' from a shell, I get a text
file with the correct output. When I run the same
as a cron task, it outputs a blank file.
any ideas why?
Does the file starts with #!/bin/sh so that it is recognized as a 
shell script?

Are you sure that the file is executable? "chmod a+x filename" 


I take back my attempt to help.  I re-read your post and noticed that it 
outpus to a blank file.  That means it is being recognized as a shell 
script and is executable.

Sorry.  My Bad.

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Re: [expert] Screen saver for a background and other eye candythoughts

2003-07-23 Thread Bill Mullen
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Jack Coates wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 00:27, Jim C wrote:
> > >
> > >You'll need libpng3-devel, ImageMagick-devel, XFree86-devel, IIRC ...  
> > >it shouldn't need too much else. If you already have xplanet-1.0.1 on
> > >that box, uninstall it before installing the RPM that this will
> > >produce. Then get my scripts and run the install.sh script. Make sure
> > >you have wget. :)
> > >  
> > Doesn't Mandrake/KDE already come with a rotateing planet program?
> 
> xplanet -- I had trouble getting it to work right as a KDE background
> though. Made a great XFce background for about a year, but I finally got
> tired of looking at it. Screenshots at
> http://www.monkeynoodle.org/Photos/comp/

That's the app we're discussing. Screenshots and scripts (including how 
to get it working under KDE) at http://xphowto.lunarhub.com ... see the 
earlier messages in this thread for a workaround needed for MDK 9.1 use.

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[expert] Avoiding NFS clients Hang when NFS server dies

2003-07-23 Thread Tru64 User
Hi All,

My Unix boxes are heavy crossmounters of disks served
mainly by Mandy Linux, + mandy-mandy mounts.

Problem is that if any one host goes down, all other
hosts hang with a df. Additionally, other programs
that utilize "df" (eg. our backups, ssh --when it
tries to generate random seed runs a number of
commands, including df) hang as well.

I have read and implemented two "thought" solutions:

1. mounting inside a dir i.e. 
mount -t nfs HOSTA:/dirAAA /HOSTA/dirAAA
instead of:
mount -t nfs HOSTA:/dirAAA /dirAAA
It is not suggested to mount nfs dirs under root.

2.Using the "soft" option for mounting (default=hard).

None of these are a cure. Any additional suggestions
out there?

_Thanks

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RE: [expert] Gaim 066 Fonts

2003-07-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 09:46, Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN wrote:
> Run strace ymessenger and you will see a large amount of files that
> are not found, or dirs even. Some are X files.
> 
> Brian D. Klar - CVE
> Multimax 
> Network Engineer
> WPAFB

Dang you are right. Never really cared since kyim aytm and gaim worked. 
Seems that having been built on on older version names have change more
than you'd think.

James

> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Gaim 066 Fonts
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:26 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 20:15, Ken Thompson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > > Regarding changes in gaim, yes the changes stay as I have set them
> > > > > but to no effect, nothing is changed in the message window, either
> > > > > incoming nor outgoing.
> > > > > Just using the "out of the box" theme for 9.1 (Keramik, I think)..
> > > > > Another thing that may be related, I'm using the Yahoo Messenger
> > > > > protocol and am also having font problems with ymessenger under 9.1.
> > > > > In fact, that is why I changed to gaim in the first place, the fonts
> > > > > in ymessenger are extremely tiny - totally unreadable and no change
> > > > > can be made to them either.
> > > > > SuSE 8.2 treats Ymessenger the same as Mandrake 9.0 did, it works as
> > > > > advertised. Haven't tried latest gaim on SuSE yet, might be
> > > > > interesting 
> > > > > Strangely enough, ymessenger worked just fine in the first couple of
> > > > > 9.1 betas, XFree 4.2.99, but went totally bonkers after the change to
> > > > > 4.3.x.. There has to be some place that controls the font rendering
> > > > > in these two applications aside from all the rest. The rest of the
> > > > > system is perfectly OK. No font issues at all with any other app's
> > > > > just these two...
> > > >
> > > > As for the out of the box theme.  It's galaxy.  And now I see that we
> > > > do notice the same things.  As for ymessenger.  It was built for MDK
> > > > 8.0. This alone should explain why it doesn't work at all on 9.1.  On
> > > > the other... Seems to be a yahoo thing.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > >
> > > Yeah, I'd about come to that conclusion too.
> > > It does seem kinda strange that ymessy works OK on SuSE 8.2, though..
> > > Tried it out and came right back "home" .. If I was smart enough to
> > > find what SuSE did (or didn't) do I'd try making the changes and see if
> > > it would work on MDK.
> > > Mandrake kernel: 2.4.21-0.13mdk
> > > SuSE kernel: 2.4.20-4GB
> > > Both running Xfree 4.3x
> > > It's gotten to be kind of a challenge no to find out why if I can...
> >
> > I think it has something to do with the attempts MDK is making at
> > anti-aliased founts.  Not sure.
> 
> Very possible, I see there is a directory under /usr/X11R6 for mandrakefont 
> (or some such), may have a look in there and see what I see.
> On the other hand, Slacware and Knoppix will show the correct font until the 
> Xserver is restarted then the fonts get tiny again, sometimes running 
> fc-cache will make it show the fonts correctly again, might be a clue.. It 
> doesn't seem to have any affect in MDK.


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Re: [expert] vnstat & cron

2003-07-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 08:17, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> Colin Jenkins wrote:
> 
> >Hello all,
> >when I run 'vnstat  >/var/www/html/usage' from a shell, I get a text
> >file with the correct output. When I run the same
> >as a cron task, it outputs a blank file.
> >any ideas why?

A shot here.  Does the file output blank if you run vnstat not from
withing the same directory as the executable?  meaning are you by hand
cd'ing to the vnstat dir and then doing ./vnstat?  If so maybe your cron
script needs to cd first then run it.

James

> >
> Does the file starts with #!/bin/sh so that it is recognized as a shell 
> script?
> 
> Are you sure that the file is executable? "chmod a+x filename"


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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Luca Olivetti
Frankie wrote:

If the spam get rejected they know that you don't accept the
mail. It is up to
the sending server to handle the rejection.
OTOH, since spam detection mechanisms are not perfect (and black lists 
based ones are evil), rejecting means you can lose good emails, while 
with filtering you give yourself (and your users) an option to look at 
the spam folder from time to time to see if a good message has been 
flagged as a false positive.

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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 07:29, Peter Stokes wrote:
> Hi Anne
> 
> Nice try, but after I delete it and then run xsane, it reappears as if
> by magic.
> 
> So where does it get it from, sending me nuts
> 
> Peter

Just a guess... Look for it in /root as well.  If it sees it in root it
could be "adding" it back to your user.

James

> 
> 
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 11:58 am, Peter Stokes wrote:
> > > Hi Annee
> > >
> > > No it is still there, must be a file somewhere...
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > In /home/peter/.sane/xsane there will probably be a .drc file that 
> > relates to your scanner.  Try adding .sav to the extension, so that 
> > you can get it back if you need it.
> > 
> > Anne
> > 
> > 
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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 04:59, Joerg Mertin wrote:
> Hia there,
> 
> so - actually - the new possibility with the Proxy sounds quite interesting, 
> and are what I was looking for a long time now.
> 
> Does anyone has some hints as what I'd need for it (which version of Postfix 
> would be required), and some examples - on how to configure all that ?
> Of course - a detailed HOWTO would be best :)

And of course ... post it in the community TWiki *grin*

> 
> Thx for all your Input folks :)
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 23 July 2003 12:46, Frankie wrote:
> [...lots of intersting stuff deleted...]
> 
> 
>   Joerg


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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-23 Thread Peter Stokes
Hi Anne

Cheers anyway.

Peter


On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:06, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 3:29 pm, Peter Stokes wrote:
> > Hi Anne
> >
> > Nice try, but after I delete it and then run xsane, it reappears as
> > if by magic.
> >
> > So where does it get it from, sending me nuts
> >
> Sorry, Peter, right out of ideas now :-(.  If I think of anything I'll 
> get back to you.
> 
> Anne
> 
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RE: [expert] Gaim 066 Fonts

2003-07-23 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN
Run strace ymessenger and you will see a large amount of files that
are not found, or dirs even. Some are X files.

Brian D. Klar - CVE
Multimax 
Network Engineer
WPAFB



-Original Message-
From: Ken Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Gaim 066 Fonts


On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:26 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 20:15, Ken Thompson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > Regarding changes in gaim, yes the changes stay as I have set them
> > > > but to no effect, nothing is changed in the message window, either
> > > > incoming nor outgoing.
> > > > Just using the "out of the box" theme for 9.1 (Keramik, I think)..
> > > > Another thing that may be related, I'm using the Yahoo Messenger
> > > > protocol and am also having font problems with ymessenger under 9.1.
> > > > In fact, that is why I changed to gaim in the first place, the fonts
> > > > in ymessenger are extremely tiny - totally unreadable and no change
> > > > can be made to them either.
> > > > SuSE 8.2 treats Ymessenger the same as Mandrake 9.0 did, it works as
> > > > advertised. Haven't tried latest gaim on SuSE yet, might be
> > > > interesting 
> > > > Strangely enough, ymessenger worked just fine in the first couple of
> > > > 9.1 betas, XFree 4.2.99, but went totally bonkers after the change to
> > > > 4.3.x.. There has to be some place that controls the font rendering
> > > > in these two applications aside from all the rest. The rest of the
> > > > system is perfectly OK. No font issues at all with any other app's
> > > > just these two...
> > >
> > > As for the out of the box theme.  It's galaxy.  And now I see that we
> > > do notice the same things.  As for ymessenger.  It was built for MDK
> > > 8.0. This alone should explain why it doesn't work at all on 9.1.  On
> > > the other... Seems to be a yahoo thing.
> > >
> > > James
> >
> > Yeah, I'd about come to that conclusion too.
> > It does seem kinda strange that ymessy works OK on SuSE 8.2, though..
> > Tried it out and came right back "home" .. If I was smart enough to
> > find what SuSE did (or didn't) do I'd try making the changes and see if
> > it would work on MDK.
> > Mandrake kernel: 2.4.21-0.13mdk
> > SuSE kernel: 2.4.20-4GB
> > Both running Xfree 4.3x
> > It's gotten to be kind of a challenge no to find out why if I can...
>
> I think it has something to do with the attempts MDK is making at
> anti-aliased founts.  Not sure.

Very possible, I see there is a directory under /usr/X11R6 for mandrakefont 
(or some such), may have a look in there and see what I see.
On the other hand, Slacware and Knoppix will show the correct font until the 
Xserver is restarted then the fonts get tiny again, sometimes running 
fc-cache will make it show the fonts correctly again, might be a clue.. It 
doesn't seem to have any affect in MDK.

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[expert] Wine troubles

2003-07-23 Thread Ken Thompson
Hi all,
I'm using -- Wine 20030115(stock install from 9.1) to try to run TotalA, it 
starts and the mouse is usable but there is no keyboard recognised.
O/S is Mandrake 9.1 with updates
Video is nVIDIA Gforce2 32Mb RAM
Memory 512Mb.
TotalA ran fine using Codeweavers 20020904 under Mandrake 9.0..
If more info is needed to help me find the problen, ask and I'll get to the
list.
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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 3:29 pm, Peter Stokes wrote:
> Hi Anne
>
> Nice try, but after I delete it and then run xsane, it reappears as
> if by magic.
>
> So where does it get it from, sending me nuts
>
Sorry, Peter, right out of ideas now :-(.  If I think of anything I'll 
get back to you.

Anne

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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 1:52 pm, Ralph Crongeyer wrote:
> Anne, you should give K3B a shot. It's very nice! Get the 0.9
> version from the cooker.
>
I had k3b running under 9.0, but never got on with it quite as well as 
xcdroast (opposite to what many people find, I know).  It simply 
doesn't run out of the box on 9.1, and since xcdroast no longer has 
the one problem I found before - not wanting to read from my 
non-scsi-emulated cd/dvd - it isn't worth struggling with it.

Apart from this one start-up annoyance I'm very happy with xcdroast.

Thanks for your thoughts, though

Anne

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Re: [expert] vnstat & cron

2003-07-23 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Colin Jenkins wrote:

Hello all,
when I run 'vnstat  >/var/www/html/usage' from a shell, I get a text
file with the correct output. When I run the same
as a cron task, it outputs a blank file.
any ideas why?
Does the file starts with #!/bin/sh so that it is recognized as a shell 
script?

Are you sure that the file is executable? "chmod a+x filename"

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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Kwan Lowe
Anne Wilson wrote:

Hmm - I think it still holds on a while even if there's nothing in the 
drive.  I must admit I do sometimes put a blank in before firing up, 
though.  Anyway, I'll not do that next time, and see if it cuts the 
waiting time.

 

Yup, it will do that even if empty. But it'll time out a lot faster 
without the disk. I've been looking at other burner applications but 
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Re: [expert] Screen saver for a background and other eye candythoughts

2003-07-23 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 00:27, Jim C wrote:
> >
> >
> >You'll need libpng3-devel, ImageMagick-devel, XFree86-devel, IIRC ... 
> >it shouldn't need too much else. If you already have xplanet-1.0.1 on that 
> >box, uninstall it before installing the RPM that this will produce. Then 
> >get my scripts and run the install.sh script. Make sure you have wget. :)
> >  
> >
> Doesn't Mandrake/KDE already come with a rotateing planet program?
> 

xplanet -- I had trouble getting it to work right as a KDE background
though. Made a great XFce background for about a year, but I finally got
tired of looking at it. Screenshots at
http://www.monkeynoodle.org/Photos/comp/
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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 1:32 pm, Kwan Lowe wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 03:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Lately whenever I start xcdroast the create cd page opens with
> > the CD/Image Info selected.  This results in a wait of a minute
> > or so before I can do anything.  Has anyone else had this
> > problem, and is there a fix?  I think it has been ever since I
> > installed the version in 9.1, but I'm not sure.
>
> It does the same for me and for all versions that I've tried. The
> only thing that seems to help is to push the eject button and it
> will sometimes pop the disk.

Hmm - I think it still holds on a while even if there's nothing in the 
drive.  I must admit I do sometimes put a blank in before firing up, 
though.  Anyway, I'll not do that next time, and see if it cuts the 
waiting time.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Apache-mod_perl (ADVX v2)

2003-07-23 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
J.C. Woods wrote:

In starting to work with ADVX, version 2, I have noticed that the 
"httpd-perl" daemon does not run as a separate process, as it does in 
the older versions of 1.3.xx. Does this mean that the apache-mod_perl 
is not needed, or not in use, in version 2 or should "httpd-perl" be 
running as a separate process? Am I missing something here?

Thanks,
drjung 
It runs as a seperate process on my box.  I'm not sure if I'm 
remembering correctly, but I remember thinking the same thing when I 
first installed 9.1.  I then found that it wasn't installed by default.  
I've since installed it and it's running now.

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Re: [expert] Gaim 066 Fonts

2003-07-23 Thread Ken Thompson
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:26 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 20:15, Ken Thompson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 22 July 2003 12:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > > Regarding changes in gaim, yes the changes stay as I have set them
> > > > but to no effect, nothing is changed in the message window, either
> > > > incoming nor outgoing.
> > > > Just using the "out of the box" theme for 9.1 (Keramik, I think)..
> > > > Another thing that may be related, I'm using the Yahoo Messenger
> > > > protocol and am also having font problems with ymessenger under 9.1.
> > > > In fact, that is why I changed to gaim in the first place, the fonts
> > > > in ymessenger are extremely tiny - totally unreadable and no change
> > > > can be made to them either.
> > > > SuSE 8.2 treats Ymessenger the same as Mandrake 9.0 did, it works as
> > > > advertised. Haven't tried latest gaim on SuSE yet, might be
> > > > interesting 
> > > > Strangely enough, ymessenger worked just fine in the first couple of
> > > > 9.1 betas, XFree 4.2.99, but went totally bonkers after the change to
> > > > 4.3.x.. There has to be some place that controls the font rendering
> > > > in these two applications aside from all the rest. The rest of the
> > > > system is perfectly OK. No font issues at all with any other app's
> > > > just these two...
> > >
> > > As for the out of the box theme.  It's galaxy.  And now I see that we
> > > do notice the same things.  As for ymessenger.  It was built for MDK
> > > 8.0. This alone should explain why it doesn't work at all on 9.1.  On
> > > the other... Seems to be a yahoo thing.
> > >
> > > James
> >
> > Yeah, I'd about come to that conclusion too.
> > It does seem kinda strange that ymessy works OK on SuSE 8.2, though..
> > Tried it out and came right back "home" .. If I was smart enough to
> > find what SuSE did (or didn't) do I'd try making the changes and see if
> > it would work on MDK.
> > Mandrake kernel: 2.4.21-0.13mdk
> > SuSE kernel: 2.4.20-4GB
> > Both running Xfree 4.3x
> > It's gotten to be kind of a challenge no to find out why if I can...
>
> I think it has something to do with the attempts MDK is making at
> anti-aliased founts.  Not sure.

Very possible, I see there is a directory under /usr/X11R6 for mandrakefont 
(or some such), may have a look in there and see what I see.
On the other hand, Slacware and Knoppix will show the correct font until the 
Xserver is restarted then the fonts get tiny again, sometimes running 
fc-cache will make it show the fonts correctly again, might be a clue.. It 
doesn't seem to have any affect in MDK.

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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-23 Thread Peter Stokes
Hi Anne

Nice try, but after I delete it and then run xsane, it reappears as if
by magic.

So where does it get it from, sending me nuts

Peter


On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 12:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 11:58 am, Peter Stokes wrote:
> > Hi Annee
> >
> > No it is still there, must be a file somewhere...
> >
> > Peter
> >
> In /home/peter/.sane/xsane there will probably be a .drc file that 
> relates to your scanner.  Try adding .sav to the extension, so that 
> you can get it back if you need it.
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Anne, you should give K3B a shot. It's very nice! Get the 0.9 version from the 
cooker.

Ralph

On Wednesday 23 July 2003 03:33 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Lately whenever I start xcdroast the create cd page opens with the
> CD/Image Info selected.  This results in a wait of a minute or so
> before I can do anything.  Has anyone else had this problem, and is
> there a fix?  I think it has been ever since I installed the version
> in 9.1, but I'm not sure.
>
> Anne


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Re: [expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 03:33, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Lately whenever I start xcdroast the create cd page opens with the 
> CD/Image Info selected.  This results in a wait of a minute or so 
> before I can do anything.  Has anyone else had this problem, and is 
> there a fix?  I think it has been ever since I installed the version 
> in 9.1, but I'm not sure.
> 

It does the same for me and for all versions that I've tried. The only
thing that seems to help is to push the eject button and it will
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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 11:58 am, Peter Stokes wrote:
> Hi Annee
>
> No it is still there, must be a file somewhere...
>
> Peter
>
In /home/peter/.sane/xsane there will probably be a .drc file that 
relates to your scanner.  Try adding .sav to the extension, so that 
you can get it back if you need it.

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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hia there,

so - actually - the new possibility with the Proxy sounds quite interesting, 
and are what I was looking for a long time now.

Does anyone has some hints as what I'd need for it (which version of Postfix 
would be required), and some examples - on how to configure all that ?
Of course - a detailed HOWTO would be best :)

Thx for all your Input folks :)


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RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
Well, at the high end of the spam game they do tests to see
if an address
is valid or not.. such things as image links in email that
are actually
links to a server side script at their end that is passed an
id matching
the email address that that particular message was addressed
to.

Also some record if the message was bounced or not, and this
is where
bouncing the spam back can be handy.. because the email
address will
not be validated as accepted and therefore it might be
removed from the
spammers Database.

Since many spammers use fake yahoo address's to send a ton
of mail
out in a short time, overloadign their accounts with bounced
messages
is a good thing too.

It will have a likewise beneficial effect on ISP's like the
russian spam
servers, whereby a huge stream of bounce messages uses up
some of the
servers bandwidth, and costs them money.. so they would be
more inclined
to do something about it.

A last benefit is the ego... its great to feel that you are
being active
rather then reactive with regards to spam.. filtering just
doesnt' feel
as good as rejecting spam... :-)

Right now this sort of thing is the best method we have for
reducing spam
that is unintrusive (unlike challenge response methods).

They guys that come up with stuff like postfix proxy are
legends (and WV,
the creator and maintainer of postfix (and tcp wrappers) is
a surprisingly
nice guy, (unlike D Beirnstein (qmail), who is an
egocentrical ellitist))
both are undoubtably brilliant though.


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Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 10:49 schrieb Joerg Mertin:
> Hi Martin,
>
> thx for the hint. I might give it a try.
> However - what buzzes me here is that if you use the proxy
method to
> identify spam - you have to get the spam anyway through
it - don't you ? So
> - the spam will use your bandwidth to get analyzed by the
"proxy"
> application - and the proxy application then returns a
Spam-Detected
> message which will be interpreted by the postfix process
and which will
> make that one reject the message definitly.
>
> IMHO - the only difference is that the remote side will
get a reject
> message if I understood correctly the process. Please
correct me if I'm
> wrong.

Jepp, that's right.

>
> Do you think this reject message will inhibit spammers to
send you more
> mail ?

Hm, that is wild guessing. I think spamers dont want to
waste bandwith, they
want to get their mails read. If you silently delete the
spam the spamer
don't know if their mails get read or not. So they assume
thei can send their
mails again.

If the spam get rejected they know that you don't accept the
mail. It is up to
the sending server to handle the rejection.

Do they send spam again? Yes, I fear they see it as a kind
of sport to get
their spam trough. But doing nothing is no sollution.

>
> NOTE - the actual spamassassin/postfix/anomy method
enables you to actually
> get the Mail in, spamassassin checks it through
spamc/spamd - and if it's
> beeing detected a SPAM - you can tell the delivery script
to delete it or
> move it to a local-file for laer analysis ...
>
> Cheers
>
>   Joerg
>

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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-23 Thread Peter Stokes
Hi Annee

No it is still there, must be a file somewhere...

Peter


On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 09:27, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Hi agian, Peter.  It sounds as though Mdk has lost it as you wanted, 
> so now go into sane and run the scan for devices there. That should 
> do it.
> 
> Anne
> 
> On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 9:20 am, Peter Stokes wrote:
> > Hi Anne
> >
> > Yes, there are no scanners listed there. I guess there must be a
> > config file which sane is picking up which I just cannot find.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 08:15, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 8:44 pm, Peter Stokes wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Just a quick one. Sorry to send to expert, but have tried to
> > > > newbie one and it has not appeared for some reason.
> > > >
> > > > How do I get rid of a manually configured scanner which I setup
> > > > with Control Centre. It does not exist on the parallel port,
> > > > but there is no way to delete it from within Control Centre.
> > >
> > > Have you tried running HardDrake?
> > >
> > > Anne
> > >
> > >
> > > _
> > >_
> > >
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[expert] Apache-mod_perl (ADVX v2)

2003-07-23 Thread J.C. Woods
In starting to work with ADVX, version 2, I have noticed that the 
"httpd-perl" daemon does not run as a separate process, as it does in 
the older versions of 1.3.xx. Does this mean that the apache-mod_perl is 
not needed, or not in use, in version 2 or should "httpd-perl" be 
running as a separate process? Am I missing something here?

Thanks,
drjung
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Re: [expert] redirect to /dev/null...how?

2003-07-23 Thread Mark Watts
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> On Tuesday 22 July 2003 09:34 am, Mark Watts wrote:
> > > I am now very confident in my spamassassin filtering - I haven't had
> > > any misidentified spam for weeks.  I have set a kmail filter to direct
> > > spam as identified by spamassassin into my kmail trash folder but now
> > > would like to skip right past this and simply direct the spam to
> > > /dev/null and
>
> [...]
>
> > > I have tried, in kmail, redirecting to /dev/null and moving to folder
> > > /dev/null but neither works.  How would this be done in kmail?
> > >
> > > praedor
> >
> > I understand that kde/kmail 3.1 (or later) has a filter target which
> > actually deletes the message, rather than moving it to trash.
>
> It must be "(or later)" as I am using kde/kmail 3.1.0 and it doesn't have a
> direct delete option among the choices in the filters.  It doesn't work if
> I try to "pipe through /dev/null" either.
>
> praedor

My bad, I was remembering the warning you get from kmail about 'delete' 
actually deleting things, and assumed that it would be a filter target.

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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 10:49 schrieb Joerg Mertin:
> Hi Martin,
>
> thx for the hint. I might give it a try.
> However - what buzzes me here is that if you use the proxy method to
> identify spam - you have to get the spam anyway through it - don't you ? So
> - the spam will use your bandwidth to get analyzed by the "proxy"
> application - and the proxy application then returns a Spam-Detected
> message which will be interpreted by the postfix process and which will
> make that one reject the message definitly.
>
> IMHO - the only difference is that the remote side will get a reject
> message if I understood correctly the process. Please correct me if I'm
> wrong.

Jepp, that's right.

>
> Do you think this reject message will inhibit spammers to send you more
> mail ?

Hm, that is wild guessing. I think spamers dont want to waste bandwith, they 
want to get their mails read. If you silently delete the spam the spamer 
don't know if their mails get read or not. So they assume thei can send their 
mails again.

If the spam get rejected they know that you don't accept the mail. It is up to 
the sending server to handle the rejection.

Do they send spam again? Yes, I fear they see it as a kind of sport to get 
their spam trough. But doing nothing is no sollution.

>
> NOTE - the actual spamassassin/postfix/anomy method enables you to actually
> get the Mail in, spamassassin checks it through spamc/spamd - and if it's
> beeing detected a SPAM - you can tell the delivery script to delete it or
> move it to a local-file for laer analysis ...
>
> Cheers
>
>   Joerg
>

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Re: [expert] Kmail +shortcut for send all mails in outgoing folder

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 9:52 am, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 10:21 schrieb Anne Wilson:
> > On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 10:58 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > > Hi !
> > >
> > > I use more and more shortcuts in Kmail. What I really miss are
> > > two things.
> > >
> > > 1) fetch mail before send
> >
> > Don't know about this
> >
> > > 2) a keyboard shortcut for sending all mails in outgoing folder
> >
> > The File menu has 'Send Queued Messages'.  In the Settings menu,
> > Configure Shortcuts, you can define a keyboard shortcut for it.
>
> Thanks Anne. I looked so often at all the entries and did not see
> it. Sometimes I'm real blind
>
Aren't we all 

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Re: [expert] Kmail +shortcut for send all mails in outgoing folder

2003-07-23 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 10:21 schrieb Anne Wilson:
> On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 10:58 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> > Hi !
> >
> > I use more and more shortcuts in Kmail. What I really miss are two
> > things.
> >
> > 1) fetch mail before send
>
> Don't know about this
>
> > 2) a keyboard shortcut for sending all mails in outgoing folder
>
> The File menu has 'Send Queued Messages'.  In the Settings menu,
> Configure Shortcuts, you can define a keyboard shortcut for it.
>

Thanks Anne. I looked so often at all the entries and did not see it. 
Sometimes I'm real blind

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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Martin,

thx for the hint. I might give it a try.
However - what buzzes me here is that if you use the proxy method to identify 
spam - you have to get the spam anyway through it - don't you ? So - the spam 
will use your bandwidth to get analyzed by the "proxy" application - and the 
proxy application then returns a Spam-Detected message which will be 
interpreted by the postfix process and which will make that one reject the 
message definitly.

IMHO - the only difference is that the remote side will get a reject message 
if I understood correctly the process. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Do you think this reject message will inhibit spammers to send you more mail ?

NOTE - the actual spamassassin/postfix/anomy method enables you to actually 
get the Mail in, spamassassin checks it through spamc/spamd - and if it's 
beeing detected a SPAM - you can tell the delivery script to delete it or 
move it to a local-file for laer analysis ...

Cheers

Joerg

On Wednesday 23 July 2003 10:19, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 09:55 schrieb Joerg Mertin:
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > On Wednesday 23 July 2003 08:47, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > > > The main problem with amavis and postfix is a missing feature in the
> > > > current postfix version. You can not reject spam mails. So you lose
> > > > ane defence line in your battle against spam.
> > >
> > > Oh, the main problem is not amavis but spamassassin (but we run
> > > spamassassin by amavisd-new).
> >
> > I know that I could reject spam directly through spamassassin - however -
> > I do use the combaination: postfix, cyrus-imapd, spamassassin, anomyser -
> > and have not yet found a decent script that rejects Spam when it comes
> > in. Would be nice - as I have about 5 Persons (Friends) getting Mails
> > through my server - and we're getting in about 50 Spams/Day ... Any hint
> > on that, LInk I could read some stuff etc.
> >
> > The example that came with anomy/spamassassin-scripts are not all that
> > satisfaying IMHO.
> >
> > Thx for a hint
> >
> > Joerg
>
> As Frankie said, the new postfix (the snapshot releases do it as well) kan
> handle the rejection via the proxy method. the first postfix instance take
> the mail but does not tell the sending server that it accepts it. Only if
> some proxy program like spamassassin accepts it, postfix accepts it too and
> the delivery contains. But if spamassassin says no, the mail will be
> rejected.
>
> There is no way to tell postfix reject spam mail with spamassassin in the
> current version. But afaik the snapshot versions of postfix are relative
> stable.
>
> Martin

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[expert] vnstat & cron

2003-07-23 Thread Colin Jenkins
Hello all,
when I run 'vnstat  >/var/www/html/usage' from a shell, I get a text
file with the correct output. When I run the same
as a cron task, it outputs a blank file.
any ideas why?


  

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Re: [expert] Kmail +shortcut for send all mails in outgoing folder

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 10:58 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote:
> Hi !
>
> I use more and more shortcuts in Kmail. What I really miss are two
> things.
>
> 1) fetch mail before send
>
Don't know about this

> 2) a keyboard shortcut for sending all mails in outgoing folder
>
The File menu has 'Send Queued Messages'.  In the Settings menu, 
Configure Shortcuts, you can define a keyboard shortcut for it.

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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
Hi agian, Peter.  It sounds as though Mdk has lost it as you wanted, 
so now go into sane and run the scan for devices there. That should 
do it.

Anne

On Wednesday 23 Jul 2003 9:20 am, Peter Stokes wrote:
> Hi Anne
>
> Yes, there are no scanners listed there. I guess there must be a
> config file which sane is picking up which I just cannot find.
>
> Peter
>
> On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 08:15, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 8:44 pm, Peter Stokes wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Just a quick one. Sorry to send to expert, but have tried to
> > > newbie one and it has not appeared for some reason.
> > >
> > > How do I get rid of a manually configured scanner which I setup
> > > with Control Centre. It does not exist on the parallel port,
> > > but there is no way to delete it from within Control Centre.
> >
> > Have you tried running HardDrake?
> >
> > Anne
> >
> >
> > _
> >_
> >
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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 09:55 schrieb Joerg Mertin:
> Hi Martin,
>
> On Wednesday 23 July 2003 08:47, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
> [...]
>
> > > The main problem with amavis and postfix is a missing feature in the
> > > current postfix version. You can not reject spam mails. So you lose ane
> > > defence line in your battle against spam.
> >
> > Oh, the main problem is not amavis but spamassassin (but we run
> > spamassassin by amavisd-new).
>
> I know that I could reject spam directly through spamassassin - however - I
> do use the combaination: postfix, cyrus-imapd, spamassassin, anomyser - and
> have not yet found a decent script that rejects Spam when it comes in.
> Would be nice - as I have about 5 Persons (Friends) getting Mails through
> my server - and we're getting in about 50 Spams/Day ... Any hint on that,
> LInk I could read some stuff etc.
>
> The example that came with anomy/spamassassin-scripts are not all that
> satisfaying IMHO.
>
> Thx for a hint
>
>   Joerg

As Frankie said, the new postfix (the snapshot releases do it as well) kan 
handle the rejection via the proxy method. the first postfix instance take 
the mail but does not tell the sending server that it accepts it. Only if 
some proxy program like spamassassin accepts it, postfix accepts it too and 
the delivery contains. But if spamassassin says no, the mail will be 
rejected.

There is no way to tell postfix reject spam mail with spamassassin in the 
current version. But afaik the snapshot versions of postfix are relative 
stable.

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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-23 Thread Peter Stokes
Hi Anne

Yes, there are no scanners listed there. I guess there must be a config
file which sane is picking up which I just cannot find.

Peter


On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 08:15, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 8:44 pm, Peter Stokes wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Just a quick one. Sorry to send to expert, but have tried to newbie
> > one and it has not appeared for some reason.
> >
> > How do I get rid of a manually configured scanner which I setup
> > with Control Centre. It does not exist on the parallel port, but
> > there is no way to delete it from within Control Centre.
> >
> Have you tried running HardDrake?
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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Re: [expert] printerdrake problem

2003-07-23 Thread charlie
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:50 pm, David Hláčik had this to contribute :-
> Hi i  switched advanced options in printerdrake and now i see only 1
> printer ... and i can do anything ... i can't get to the main menu, where i
> can add and set printers. It is strange ...
> David Hláčik

Sometimes you have to get out of the section in Mandrake Control Centre 
section and reenter and try again, as there can be a glitch there.

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Re: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Martin,

On Wednesday 23 July 2003 08:47, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
[...]
> > The main problem with amavis and postfix is a missing feature in the
> > current postfix version. You can not reject spam mails. So you lose ane
> > defence line in your battle against spam.
>
> Oh, the main problem is not amavis but spamassassin (but we run
> spamassassin by amavisd-new).

I know that I could reject spam directly through spamassassin - however - I do 
use the combaination: postfix, cyrus-imapd, spamassassin, anomyser - and have 
not yet found a decent script that rejects Spam when it comes in. Would be 
nice - as I have about 5 Persons (Friends) getting Mails through my server - 
and we're getting in about 50 Spams/Day ... Any hint on that, LInk I could 
read some stuff etc.

The example that came with anomy/spamassassin-scripts are not all that 
satisfaying IMHO.

Thx for a hint

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RE: [expert] Using Postfix to send mail.

2003-07-23 Thread Frankie
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fahrendorf

Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 08:41 schrieb Martin Fahrendorf:
> Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 07:46 schrieb Frankie:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
James
>
> ...
>
> > Don't doubt you on this ... but if you are feeling left
out
> > ... I can
> > send you some of what we get *grin*.
> >
> > James
> >
> > #
> >
> > Yeah, worst thing I did was add wildcard address's to
the
> > virtual file..
> > @mydomain.com   franki
> >
> > between that and my postmaster admin accounts amount to
> > about 30% or more
> > of the 50-100 spam I get a day... If I didn't have
> > spamassassin running on
> > the server, I'd have been driven up the wall by now.
>
> The main problem with amavis and postfix is a missing
feature in the
> current postfix version. You can not reject spam mails. So
you lose ane
> defence line in your battle against spam.
>

>Oh, the main problem is not amavis but spamassassin (but we
run spamassassin
>by amavisd-new).
>
>Martin

Yeah, but using the new postfix proxy methods should fix
that nicely..
its not really any great use overall, but its a great
feeling to reject spam
in realtime rather then filter it..

I have read that people are already using it with
amavis-new.

An ego trip even. :-)

rgds

Franki



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[expert] XCDRoast annoyance

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
Lately whenever I start xcdroast the create cd page opens with the 
CD/Image Info selected.  This results in a wait of a minute or so 
before I can do anything.  Has anyone else had this problem, and is 
there a fix?  I think it has been ever since I installed the version 
in 9.1, but I'm not sure.

Anne

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Re: [expert] Screen saver for a background and other eye candy thoughts

2003-07-23 Thread Jim C


You'll need libpng3-devel, ImageMagick-devel, XFree86-devel, IIRC ... 
it shouldn't need too much else. If you already have xplanet-1.0.1 on that 
box, uninstall it before installing the RPM that this will produce. Then 
get my scripts and run the install.sh script. Make sure you have wget. :)
 

Doesn't Mandrake/KDE already come with a rotateing planet program?



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Re: [expert] Removal of scanner

2003-07-23 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 22 Jul 2003 8:44 pm, Peter Stokes wrote:
> Hi
>
> Just a quick one. Sorry to send to expert, but have tried to newbie
> one and it has not appeared for some reason.
>
> How do I get rid of a manually configured scanner which I setup
> with Control Centre. It does not exist on the parallel port, but
> there is no way to delete it from within Control Centre.
>
Have you tried running HardDrake?

Anne

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