Re: VO Hints and VLC

2012-11-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
www.videolan.org
Open the rotor and go to links and type do and the download link for mac should 
be the second link listed. I didn't go further to see if that link downloads it 
or if you have to activate any links on the next page.

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On Nov 29, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Cheryl,
 Thanks, I'll save this.
 Where do you get VLC?
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 
 Yes. Open voiceover utility with vo-f8. In categories go to verbbosity. 
 Hints is the fifth and last tab; select it with vo-space. There's a checkbox 
 for speaking the instructions for the item in the voiceover cursor; there's 
 a pop-up for handling items with help tags, and there's a table to set the 
 delay before a hint is spoken. I'm not sure you need both the checkbox and 
 the popup depending on what you need this for. The checkbox can be very 
 annoying but is great when the prompt is needed. The popup is helpful but 
 you can also get that information by doing vo-shift-h on items with help 
 tags and then you can go ahead and label items by using vo-slash. In fact, I 
 just labelled a checkbox in vlc. So you can play with things and see what 
 helps you most.
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Can someone remind me how to turn on vo hints?
 Thanks,
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:
 
 If you have VoiceOver hints turned on, and set it to the minimum delay, it 
 will say Preview the song, etc.
 
 HTH,
 
 Harry
 
 On nov 29, 2012, at 1:40 p.m., Chris Moore apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Not quite all buttons.  Go to the iTunes Store and select music from the 
 menu which appears before you actually get to the HTML area (really not 
 sure why these buttons have not been integrated directly into the HTML of 
 the iTunes store yet) and you should see a link for last week's top 40.  
 Open it, and then jump to the table of songs.  You will see in the first 
 column that every button is not labelled to preview/play the song.
 
 Told you, am picky.
 On 29 Nov 2012, at 19:10, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I can say it works amazing with VO, not so much so on the Windows side of
 things.
 Everything's perfectly accessible, buttons are labeled, etc.
 
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 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 I love the fact that any Mac can be made blind friendly so easily.
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Subject line says it all. Itunes 11 with simplified player and 
 redesigned
 store is now available for download. I haven't tried it yet and don't 
 plan
 to until my husband puts it on his Mac and I can see how it works with 
 vo.
 Oh the joys of having the screen reader built in to all Macs!
 
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Re: vlc: adding to media library solved

2012-11-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
This was driving me crazy because I managed to add a playlist accidentally to 
the vlc media library but still didn't know how I had done it. Furthermore, I 
read some posts that said this could no longer be done but since I had done it 
accidentally I knew this couldn't be right. Finally I decided to try drag and 
drop which I would have tried sooner had I not read that it doesn't work. For 
anybody who might want to do this, here's what I did:

(1) I opened a folder in vlc using open file in vlc and navigating to the 
folder.
2. I saved the folder as a playlist with cmd-s.
3. I switched in the table (sort of like a sources table) to media library and 
then navigated to the table that showed what was in the library.
4. I went to finder and opened the folder where the playlist was and did 
vo-comma to mark it for drag-and-drop.
5. I turned cursor tracking off (may not be necessary but seems to work more 
reliably for me).
6. I used the window chooser to get back to vlc and I was still in the library 
media table there.
7. I did vo-period to drag the playlist (I tried vo-lessthan and vo-greaterthan 
but they didn't work).
8. I turned cursor tracking back on so I wouldn't start trying to do things 
with cursor tracking off and end up thinking something was terribly wrong.
I've done two playlists this way and I imagine there's no reason why I couldn't 
drag individual files or folders instead of making playlists. Now that I know 
how to do it, I can play with it.

Now I'm going to bed!!!

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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anybody know if there's a keyboard shortcut or accessible method for 
 adding to the media library in vlc. I am sure it's enabled because the window 
 comes up when I open vlc and I've apparently accidentally added a couple of 
 songs to it but I have no idea when or how that happened. I have no problem 
 making playlists but I can't figure out how to add to the media library 
 intentionally. I googled and found one article but the description didn't 
 seem to translate to what I could do with voiceover. It must be possible 
 since I did it unknowingly.
 
 Thanks for any tips.
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 

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Re: vlc: adding to media library solved

2012-11-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'll have to check that. I do know that you can start a whole directory without 
making a playlist but I suspect that if you are playing one song and then set 
up another one it will switch to that next one.

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my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Nov 30, 2012, at 5:25 AM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Hey, can you use VLC to lay a song, and, while a song is playing, cue up the 
 next song to play after the current one without interupting the playback of 
 the current song?  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac user!
 
 On Nov 30, 2012, at 2:31 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This was driving me crazy because I managed to add a playlist accidentally 
 to the vlc media library but still didn't know how I had done it. 
 Furthermore, I read some posts that said this could no longer be done but 
 since I had done it accidentally I knew this couldn't be right. Finally I 
 decided to try drag and drop which I would have tried sooner had I not read 
 that it doesn't work. For anybody who might want to do this, here's what I 
 did:
 
 (1) I opened a folder in vlc using open file in vlc and navigating to the 
 folder.
 2. I saved the folder as a playlist with cmd-s.
 3. I switched in the table (sort of like a sources table) to media library 
 and then navigated to the table that showed what was in the library.
 4. I went to finder and opened the folder where the playlist was and did 
 vo-comma to mark it for drag-and-drop.
 5. I turned cursor tracking off (may not be necessary but seems to work more 
 reliably for me).
 6. I used the window chooser to get back to vlc and I was still in the 
 library media table there.
 7. I did vo-period to drag the playlist (I tried vo-lessthan and 
 vo-greaterthan but they didn't work).
 8. I turned cursor tracking back on so I wouldn't start trying to do things 
 with cursor tracking off and end up thinking something was terribly wrong.
 I've done two playlists this way and I imagine there's no reason why I 
 couldn't drag individual files or folders instead of making playlists. Now 
 that I know how to do it, I can play with it.
 
 Now I'm going to bed!!!
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does anybody know if there's a keyboard shortcut or accessible method for 
 adding to the media library in vlc. I am sure it's enabled because the 
 window comes up when I open vlc and I've apparently accidentally added a 
 couple of songs to it but I have no idea when or how that happened. I have 
 no problem making playlists but I can't figure out how to add to the media 
 library intentionally. I googled and found one article but the description 
 didn't seem to translate to what I could do with voiceover. It must be 
 possible since I did it unknowingly.
 
 Thanks for any tips.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: please kindly disregard my last message about scanners

2012-11-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I've never found the ocr done directly in vuescan to be as good as that done by 
Abbyy or Readiris but it won't hurt for you to try and see what you think.

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May the words of my mouth
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be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Nov 30, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I actually got my LiDE 60 collor flat bed scanner to work on 10.8.2.  Also, I 
 was able to configure VUE scan so that it now behaves much like it did 
 before.  I will, however, need to consult the set up guide recommended here 
 earlier in order to ensure my set up is in fact correct.  One thing I did 
 notice is that now, VUE scan seems to offer auto rotation of scanned images, 
 and, by implication, if you set up VUE scan so that it knows you're scanning 
 text documents, and you set up an external editor to Text Edit, and if you 
 activate auto rotation, there's a fair chance one would not even need Abby 
 Fione Reader.  But, not quite sure yet.  
 
 Thoughts?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

2012-12-03 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something more 
than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books from 
iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in Windows maybe 
this won't help.

i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the radio 
buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only had one 
book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I then chose 
list from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to select with the 
audiobooks radio button chosen.

In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of the 
choices was delete. I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In the case of 
doing it from list only one part of an audiobook was selected but when 
deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of a book were chosen so 
that's why when using the audiobooks radio button and deleting a book with more 
than one part you'll be asked if you want to delete the selected audiobooks. I 
confirmed that I wanted to delete and was asked if I wanted to keep the files 
or move them to trash. I made my choice and the book was deleted.

Hth.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to do it 
 that way.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because iTunes 
 does maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would get out of 
 sync if you pull out files from under it by other means.  I'm not sure if 
 iTunes has a way to clean itself up or not.
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Allison,
 
 That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them from 
 within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I was 
 missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete from 
 within iTunes.
 
 thanks for the suggestion.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio 
 books folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. I 
 was able to successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this helps. 
 I  havne't tried the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great day.
 
 Allison
 
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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

2012-12-03 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Can you explain specifically what happens when you do vo-shift-m? And I know 
this is going to sound obvious, but are you interacting with the books table? I 
ask that only because at one point I couldn't do vo-shift-m and realized that 
while it said the book was selected I wasn't interacting. There has to be a 
reason why this is happening and hopefully somebody can get to the bottom of 
it. But it can't be that iTunes has been changed not to allow deletion of 
audible books or nobody would be able to do it, which I know may not seem very 
encouraging at this point. Also, did you try the list radio button instead of 
the audiobooks radio button?



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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Weird.  Nope, I am talking about a Mac.  and I've tried it several times, 
 tried restarting the computer, etc.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something more 
 than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books from 
 iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in Windows 
 maybe this won't help.
 
 i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the 
 radio buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only 
 had one book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I 
 then chose list from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to 
 select with the audiobooks radio button chosen.
 
 In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of the 
 choices was delete. I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In the case 
 of doing it from list only one part of an audiobook was selected but when 
 deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of a book were chosen 
 so that's why when using the audiobooks radio button and deleting a book 
 with more than one part you'll be asked if you want to delete the selected 
 audiobooks. I confirmed that I wanted to delete and was asked if I wanted to 
 keep the files or move them to trash. I made my choice and the book was 
 deleted.
 
 Hth.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to do 
 it that way.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because iTunes 
 does maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would get out 
 of sync if you pull out files from under it by other means.  I'm not sure 
 if iTunes has a way to clean itself up or not.
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Allison,
 
 That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them from 
 within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I was 
 missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete from 
 within iTunes.
 
 thanks for the suggestion.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio 
 books folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. I 
 was able to successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this 
 helps. I  havne't tried the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great 
 day.
 
 Allison
 
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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

2012-12-03 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I wonder if it's because you are not using the list radio button and therefore 
all or none of the books are being selected instead of the one you wanted. In 
fact, the two of you with opposite problems could both possibly be experiencing 
a selection problem. I know that I was having a problem selecting just one 
book, or at least being sure I was selecting just one book, when I selected the 
audiobooks radio button; when I switched to the list radio button I was able 
to select one book and know I had done that and then when I switched back to 
the audiobooks radio button again the problem I had experienced there was gone. 
Just remember that you don't have to choose to send the books to the trash; you 
chan choose to keep the files and then go into finder and check that everything 
is okay and send them to the trash yourself.


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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Taylor Scott taylor9...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the exact 180 problem. lol
 I'm Using a mac too, when deleting 1 book, (Using the delete key) it
 deletes every book from the mac.
 Before, I would just open the book I wish to delete, do cmd + A to
 select all, then tap the backspace key to delete.
 Doing the same steps, all books are sent to the trash. :(
 I'm also experencing other weird iTunes11 issues though.
 
 On 12/3/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you explain specifically what happens when you do vo-shift-m? And I know
 this is going to sound obvious, but are you interacting with the books
 table? I ask that only because at one point I couldn't do vo-shift-m and
 realized that while it said the book was selected I wasn't interacting.
 There has to be a reason why this is happening and hopefully somebody can
 get to the bottom of it. But it can't be that iTunes has been changed not to
 allow deletion of audible books or nobody would be able to do it, which I
 know may not seem very encouraging at this point. Also, did you try the list
 radio button instead of the audiobooks radio button?
 
 
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Weird.  Nope, I am talking about a Mac.  and I've tried it several times,
 tried restarting the computer, etc.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something
 more than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books
 from iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in
 Windows maybe this won't help.
 
 i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the
 radio buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only
 had one book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I
 then chose list from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to
 select with the audiobooks radio button chosen.
 
 In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of
 the choices was delete. I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In
 the case of doing it from list only one part of an audiobook was
 selected but when deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of
 a book were chosen so that's why when using the audiobooks radio button
 and deleting a book with more than one part you'll be asked if you want
 to delete the selected audiobooks. I confirmed that I wanted to delete
 and was asked if I wanted to keep the files or move them to trash. I made
 my choice and the book was deleted.
 
 Hth.
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to
 do it that way.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because
 iTunes does maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would
 get out of sync if you pull out files from under it by other means.
 I'm not sure if iTunes has a way to clean itself up or not.
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Allison,
 
 That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them
 from within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I
 was missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete
 from within iTunes.
 
 thanks for the suggestion.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about

Re: iTunes 11: iCloud button and other issues.

2012-12-03 Thread Cheryl Homiak
What do you have selected in the view menu and in view optins: command-j and do 
you have a particular radio button selected? I'm assuming your library popup is 
on music probably.

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 I still have not seen an answer as to what steps I take to get my column 
 browser back?  I see the browser submenu off the View menu, but it's all 
 dimmed out.  I cannot find in Preferences or anywhere else the reason for 
 this.  Having the browser back would go a long way to alleviate my misgivings 
 about Itunes 11.
 
 
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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

2012-12-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, when you have books selected in your pop-up there are then five radio 
buttons:
audiobooks, books, pdfs, authors, and list. I imgine some of those might be 
missing say if you didn't have any pdfs but i'm not sure about that. The radio 
buttons are immediately to the right of the pop-up where you have books 
selected if you do a vo-right-arrow. If you don't have these radio buttons, 
something in your settings must be different from mine. I don't know what that 
would be but it should give you hope because it means you should be able to 
have these radio buttons if you explore your settings. Sorry I don't know what 
to tell you specifically what to do for your settings. Again, the order you 
have is: the search library field, the pop-up where you presumably chose books 
and then the five radio buttons.To the right of this is the pop-up that shows 
devices like iPhones, iPads, etc. if you have them (mine are wifi-connected so 
I don't know if this shows in everybody's) and then the itunes store button. 
But again, this layout would depend on your settings.



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On Dec 4, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Cheryl,
 
 There's no list radio button in my iTunes, what are you talking about?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I wonder if it's because you are not using the list radio button and 
 therefore all or none of the books are being selected instead of the one you 
 wanted. In fact, the two of you with opposite problems could both possibly 
 be experiencing a selection problem. I know that I was having a problem 
 selecting just one book, or at least being sure I was selecting just one 
 book, when I selected the audiobooks radio button; when I switched to the 
 list radio button I was able to select one book and know I had done that 
 and then when I switched back to the audiobooks radio button again the 
 problem I had experienced there was gone. Just remember that you don't have 
 to choose to send the books to the trash; you chan choose to keep the files 
 and then go into finder and check that everything is okay and send them to 
 the trash yourself.
 
 
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 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Taylor Scott taylor9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have the exact 180 problem. lol
 I'm Using a mac too, when deleting 1 book, (Using the delete key) it
 deletes every book from the mac.
 Before, I would just open the book I wish to delete, do cmd + A to
 select all, then tap the backspace key to delete.
 Doing the same steps, all books are sent to the trash. :(
 I'm also experencing other weird iTunes11 issues though.
 
 On 12/3/12, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you explain specifically what happens when you do vo-shift-m? And I 
 know
 this is going to sound obvious, but are you interacting with the books
 table? I ask that only because at one point I couldn't do vo-shift-m and
 realized that while it said the book was selected I wasn't interacting.
 There has to be a reason why this is happening and hopefully somebody can
 get to the bottom of it. But it can't be that iTunes has been changed not 
 to
 allow deletion of audible books or nobody would be able to do it, which I
 know may not seem very encouraging at this point. Also, did you try the 
 list
 radio button instead of the audiobooks radio button?
 
 
 
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 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Weird.  Nope, I am talking about a Mac.  and I've tried it several times,
 tried restarting the computer, etc.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something
 more than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books
 from iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in
 Windows maybe this won't help.
 
 i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the
 radio buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only
 had one book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I
 then chose list from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to
 select with the audiobooks radio button chosen.
 
 In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of
 the choices was delete. I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In
 the case of doing it from list only one part of an audiobook was
 selected but when deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of
 a book were chosen so that's why when using

Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

2012-12-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh wonderful! So glad you found it! It's frustrating when you have to figure 
out things a new way that you were comfortable with in the old system, but I 
think once we get onver the learning curve there's going to be a lot to like.
 
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be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Dec 4, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hey Cheryl,
 
 You hit the nail on the head.  I hadn't noticed the list button, but when I 
 selected it, I had no problem deleting books.  thanks for drawing my 
 attention to it.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you explain specifically what happens when you do vo-shift-m? And I know 
 this is going to sound obvious, but are you interacting with the books 
 table? I ask that only because at one point I couldn't do vo-shift-m and 
 realized that while it said the book was selected I wasn't interacting. 
 There has to be a reason why this is happening and hopefully somebody can 
 get to the bottom of it. But it can't be that iTunes has been changed not to 
 allow deletion of audible books or nobody would be able to do it, which I 
 know may not seem very encouraging at this point. Also, did you try the list 
 radio button instead of the audiobooks radio button?
 
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Weird.  Nope, I am talking about a Mac.  and I've tried it several times, 
 tried restarting the computer, etc.
 Best,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something 
 more than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books 
 from iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in 
 Windows maybe this won't help.
 
 i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the 
 radio buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only 
 had one book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I 
 then chose list from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to 
 select with the audiobooks radio button chosen.
 
 In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of 
 the choices was delete. I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In the 
 case of doing it from list only one part of an audiobook was selected 
 but when deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of a book 
 were chosen so that's why when using the audiobooks radio button and 
 deleting a book with more than one part you'll be asked if you want to 
 delete the selected audiobooks. I confirmed that I wanted to delete and 
 was asked if I wanted to keep the files or move them to trash. I made my 
 choice and the book was deleted.
 
 Hth.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to 
 do it that way.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because iTunes 
 does maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would get out 
 of sync if you pull out files from under it by other means.  I'm not 
 sure if iTunes has a way to clean itself up or not.
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Allison,
 
 That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them 
 from within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I 
 was missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete 
 from within iTunes.
 
 thanks for the suggestion.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio 
 books folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. 
 I was able to successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this 
 helps. I  havne't tried the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great 
 day.
 
 Allison
 
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Re: Itunes oddity

2012-12-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't think it's erroneous. As i recall, the repeat button has traditionally 
worked like this. The button shows what will happen if you press it, not what 
did happen the last time you pressed it.

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On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone noticed that when you toggle the side bar from shown to hidden 
 with command option s on a Mac, voice over announces the opposite of what is 
 in fact the case? I just installed Itunes 11 and discovered that when I 
 pressed this key combo, VO erroneously told me the sidebar was hidden, 
 although it is not. Very weird and confusing the first time it happens.
 
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Re: SHipment Number Detected

2012-12-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
It it says url detected you do vo-space on it. I'm not sure if i've ever jst 
had it say shipment number detected but if it's without a link I would think 
it would actually be unable to access any information.

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On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote:

 If someone sends you an E-mail, and within that E-mail is a tracking number 
 for a Fedex or USPS or UPS delivery, VO says, Shipment number detected. 
 But, when you VO-M context menu, the track item, option just seems to 
 disappear without doing anything.  I even checked in Dashboard and it's not 
 there.
 
 
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Re: windows 64 bit and bootcamp.

2012-12-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
That's interesting. My windows 7 came with two different discs: one for 32-bit 
and one for 64-bit.

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On Dec 5, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually, it works like a champ. I installed win7 64 bit in a bootcamp 
 partition and have no problem. I had sighted assistance though, and used a 
 64bit ISO imagedownloaded and burned from Microsoft store.
 Maybe the instructions didn't account for the 32 vs 64 bit thing. I know that 
 the DVD has both versions on it and you have to choose one you want to 
 install - at least I think so.
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 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:02 PM
 Subject: windows 64 bit and bootcamp.
 
 
 Hi all.
 So, i followed Chris's instructions for installing windows under bootcamp. 
 It worked wonderfully.
 I have a question, does windows 7 or 8 not work under 64 bit?
 I cant get it to work at all.
 Any help would be appreciated, does anybody run windows 64 bit on the list.
 
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Re: Itunes 11 and sorting (NOT)

2012-12-06 Thread Cheryl Homiak
This isn't just with iTunes 11; the same thing has always happened in iTunes 
when the id tags are not the kind that iTunes recognizes or are in some way 
messed up. This is why I tend to use iTunes for purchased files and vlc for 
other files by dragging my folders into the vlc media library.  You can fix the 
organization relatively easily by using cmd-i and entering the correct info but 
if you have a lot of files like that, you may decide it's not worth it.

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Re: How to change the tags in multiple aac files.

2012-12-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually, it may not be that big a mess in iTunes but it depends on what is in 
the other fields. If you go ahead and import them into the iTunes library and 
then select all of them and do a cmd-i on them, you can change the composer on 
all of them at once if the composer is the same for all of them. Once you do 
that, iTunes will reorganize them appropriately. But if you are going to have 
trouble finding and selecting them all at once, you may be right about it being 
a mess.

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On Dec 8, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
wrote:

 Hi there!
 OK hopefully if in iTunes under pref's in general you can uncheck the 
 organise library so that should not muck up your system and you can then use 
 iTunes to do that tagging!
 
 hth Colin
 
 On 8 Dec 2012, at 16:05, Annie Skive Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have got a real problem.
 
 I need to edit a lot of m4a files, I simply need to add the composer to all 
 the files, but I am not glad to get them into iTunes, it will destroy my 
 album sorting.
 
 Can anyone recommend a program, so I can do that without creating a mess.
 
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Re: How to change the tags in multiple aac files.

2012-12-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
That's right; you don't uncheck the box to keep your files organized. Either 
you have to find another editor to do this or you select groups of tracks and 
apply the composer change to all of them at once; you get a prompt from iTunes 
wanting to know if you really want to work on multiple tracks but it works fine 
and your files and albums are reorganized as you do this.

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On Dec 8, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I need to apply the changes to the tracks, if i unchek the organize buttons, 
 I will not get the changes added to my taginfo in my tracks.
 
 Best regards Annie. 
 Den Dec 8, 2012 kl. 5:36 PM skrev Red.Falcon 
 velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com:
 
 Hi there!
 OK hopefully if in iTunes under pref's in general you can uncheck the 
 organise library so that should not muck up your system and you can then use 
 iTunes to do that tagging!
 
 hth Colin
 
 On 8 Dec 2012, at 16:05, Annie Skive Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 I have got a real problem.
 
 I need to edit a lot of m4a files, I simply need to add the composer to all 
 the files, but I am not glad to get them into iTunes, it will destroy my 
 album sorting.
 
 Can anyone recommend a program, so I can do that without creating a mess.
 
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Re: iTunes Library location?

2012-12-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'm pasting in instructions for moving your iTunes Media folder; as I recall, I 
got them from iLounge or Apple; I know that when I wanted to change from iTunes 
Music to iTunes Media a long time ago there was a detailed iLounge article that 
I read. . These instructions don't talk about moving the library files 
themselves; in fact, the library data files are left in their original place. 
But I used these instructions just a few months ago with somebody and they 
worked fine so maybe you will find them helpful. Just remember that if you have 
terabytes of media files, it could take iTunes a while to load and you could 
get some of those wonderful busy signals. This was written with itunes 9 
mostly in mind but I helped somebody use them with iTunes; haven't check to 
make sure instructions are still the same for iTunes 11.



Open iTunes.
From the iTunes menu, choose Preferences.
Click the Advanced button in the Preferences window.
Click the Change button in the iTunes Media folder location pane.
In the Change Media Folder Location window that appears, navigate to the 
location where you would like your new iTunes Media folder to be created. Note: 
By default, your iTunes Media folder is a folder named iTunes Media in 
~/Music/iTunes/ where the tilde ~ represents your home directory.
Click the New Folder button in the Change Media Folder Location window.
In the New Folder window that appears, enter the name of the new iTunes Media 
folder.
Click Create.
Click Open in the Change Media Folder Location window.
Click OK in the Advanced window.
From the File menu, choose Library and then Organize Library if using iTunes 
9. If you're using iTunes 7 or iTunes 8 for Mac, choose File  Library and 
then Consolidate Library.
In the Organize Library (or Consolidate Library) window, select Consolidate 
files.
Click OK.
A message appears that says: Consolidating your library will copy all of your 
music into the iTunes Media folder. This cannot be undone.
Click Consolidate. Important: This action copies all of your music and media 
files to the new location. There must be enough hard disk space available to 
copy all of your music and media files.
After the folder has been copied, locate your original iTunes Media folder, and 
drag it to the Trash or Recycle Bin. Note: Don't remove the iTunes library 
files that may be in the same location as the iTunes Media folder. 

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On Dec 8, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, 10TB?  How many drives was that?  I want to go about this the second 
 way, I just want to make sure I put the media there properly.  So do I move 
 the library and then drop the media in there?  Or do I just delete the 
 directory, redirect the source, and let iTunes do the rest?  Thanks for your 
 informative answer.  My main point for doing this is so my iTunes library is 
 ready when my apple TV arrives.  This is the only device missing from my 
 Apple collection.
  
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 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 7:40 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iTunes Library location?
  
 Hi,
  
 There's two ways of approaching this.
  
 First is to leave the media where it is and let iTunes simply mark where 
 everything is in its Library Database file.  In theory, this could be 
 accomplished by first going to iTunes Prefs in the Advanced pane and 
 unchecking the box that tells iTunes to Copy items to the iTunes Media 
 folder.  Next, you would go under the File menu and choose Add to Library 
 (cmd-o), navigate to the external HD where all your media is, then pressing 
 the Open button on the parent directory of all the media on that drive.  The 
 only issue with this method is that I seem to recall that iTunes does not 
 always pay attention to that preference when your importing from external 
 HDs.  If it works as this plan suggests though, you'd have everything 
 accessible to iTunes and all your devices with only the Database file 
 residing on the Mac's internal HD.
  
 In the second option, you'll need to create either a new iTunes Library on 
 that external HD or move your existing iTunes folder over to that external 
 HD.  In this case, when you add the media to iTunes, it will copy everything 
 into the iTunes folder and place them all into the proper locations that 
 iTunes needs in order to work properly and properly share with the Apple TV 
 and other iDevices.  This is the method that I use myself.  The only problem 
 could be that iTunes will try to copy all your media into the new iTunes 
 media location.  If you have enough space on your external HD to handle 
 multiple copies of the media during this Library creation process, then 
 you'll be OK.  If you do not, you will need to be creative with where you put 
 

Re: Toast titanium

2012-12-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You are using a version for intel macs, correct? And do menus, using vo-m, not 
work either?

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On Dec 8, 2012, at 9:16 PM, BlindBikeTrials lvs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chris,
 I am not sure what version I am using my voiceover reads absolutely nothing 
 on the screen. The whole entire program is completely not accessible. Which 
 computer are you using? Are you using an Intel based Mac? Back in the day I 
 was able to use my Power Mac but since I upgraded to an Intel MacBook Pro I 
 have not been able to use the version that I have. I will have to look into 
 this version 11 that you have and hopefully that will work. I don't think a 
 podcast will do me any good seeing hell no matter what I do nothing will read 
 on my version of toast.
 
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Dropbox podcast

2012-12-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Has anybody done a pretty thorough podcast or tutorial on dropbox? I'm thinking 
of paying for storage space there because of the variety of files I can store 
and access vs iCloud. I'm already paying something for sendspace so I'm 
thinking of dropping that and paying for dropbox. This is a beginning step 
toward eventually possibly using my iaPad more as my primary computer instead 
of my Macbook pro though actually doing that may be a ways down the road. One 
of my primary challenges in even thinking about doing that is storage and 
retrieval of media and documets.


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Accessible wifi scanner

2012-12-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Does anybody know if there's a wifi-enabled scanner somewhere that is 
accessible for setting up the wifi connection or that can be controlled for 
this by software on the computer? I imagine that if one has to have sighted 
help to set up the wifi connection, it should be able to continue connecting 
without assistance but I'd really like to be able to set this up and manage it 
without sighted help.

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Re: Latest Dropbox on Mountin Lion causes an odd issue with show desktop notifications?

2012-12-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, I guess the first question is: how do I know if I have the latest version 
of dropbox? Would I get an update notification?

I do have desktop notifications checked and I do get notified of changes on my 
Mac running Mountain Lion but the notification is just announced and doesn't 
interfere with anything I am doing. And it doesn't appear anywhere in the 
notifications list in system preferences. Dropbox also appears in my extras 
menu and I can check for changes there if I've missed anything.


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On Dec 9, 2012, at 1:23 PM, Keith Hinton keithint1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, folks:
 Whenever I use the latest Dropbox version, on the Mac, I find that
 VoiceOver does something odd whenever any notification comes up. All
 I've done, is relink my system following a previous group of settings
 I had, so can't determine as to why this happens.
 Specificly, what happens is that whenever any notification now pops
 up, rather than showing up for about 5 seconds or less, the
 notification doesn't fade. Instead, I've had my focuss get redirected
 at times, and have even had to use Control-Option-Shift-D to force my
 focus back into the Finder.
 So then, it gets stranger.
 I bring up the window chooser, and what do I get?
 Untitled from Dropbox
 Then I read the notification text, followed by what VoiceOver labels
 as a button.
 pressing it will dismiss the notification, but I'd like the
 notifications  to return to the default behavior as Dropbox behaves
 everywhere else on all other machines I own where the notifications
 come up for about 3 seconds then simply close.
 Unless a solution is even remotely possible, I will simply uncheck
 show desktop notifications, at all expense of even knowing if files
 are erased, updated, etc most likely.
 I haven't tried this, but I guess that unchecking that means I won't
 receive notifications at all.
 Can anybody confirm this or suggest a better solution than being
 constantly forced to bring up the window chooser and manually dismiss
 every notification I receive from Dropbox?
 I find this behavior personally an annoyance that I want rectified if
 at all possible.
 I'm running the latest Mountin Lion release.
 Oh, and one other annoyance I wish Apple would rectify before the next
 major release of the OS, is this VoiceOver password chittering issue.
 I'm constantly turning VoiceOver off and on nearly every time an
 authentication dialog is received, and only a few do not produce this
 issue.
 I can deal with it, but again, it's a bit distracting.
 Any help pertaining to both these issues that I have brought up in
 this email and VoiceOver is much appreciated.
 Have a great rest of the day, folks.
 
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Re: please can some one recommend an accessible alternative to iTunes that will allow me to mannege my current iTunes libary and iPod?

2012-12-12 Thread Cheryl Homiak
That is because your tracks are not correctly identified as far as iTunes is 
concerned. Yu can fix this by doing cmd-i in iTunes on each track and changing 
the track number but if you have a lot of misidentified or not-identified 
albums like I do, that is easier said than done. I think I would wholeheartedly 
love iTunes had I been able to predict the future and waited a few years to rip 
all my albums and give away the originals. If track order is your only problem, 
there might be a program or script out there that could redo them if you put 
them in the right order.


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On Dec 12, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Join the club, I have a love/hate relationship with it myself, especially 
 sense it does this wonderful thing, where it loves to play all my songs out 
 of order some of the time when, for  example, I have an album that's by 
 various artists, and I want the album tracks played in chronological order 
 and not alphabetized by artist's names; so that can get frustrating.
 On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Shen wrote:
 
 I agree. I don't think it's a bad question at all.
 Also, many people get accessibility confused with personal choice. If my 
 personal choice is something that is not Apple, it doesn't mean I'm a hater. 
 It's a personal choice.
 I too am not very happy with iTunes. This has been the case from day one.
 I understand that iTunes is suppose to make it easy to organize your 
 library. I agree, if the library is 5000 songs.
 But if I just want to add 1 song to my iPhone, I have to go through the 
 lengthy process of adding it to iTunes, then sync it with my iPhone, and 
 then wait 5 minutes while iTunes checks everything else.
 But for the moment, I will continue using it until something better comes 
 along.
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 11, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Pete Nalda lpna...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don't think this question was all that bad.  I've lost the ability to 
 manually sync my iPhone to iTunes 11. So, at this rate, I may have to look 
 for an alternative as well.  Also, I'm becoming more disenfranchised with 
 the Apple Paradigm lately as well.  I want more of my music library on my 
 iPhone 4, and the iPhone 5 is not on any prepaid carrier, and the sim card 
 is a different size, so I can't even buy an unlocked 5 and put it on my 
 carrier.  This doesn't mean I hate Apple myself, only that I'm wondering 
 about the way things are headed.  Also, they only give you the option to 
 switch iTunes to classic mode at installation, so there's no switching once 
 you've chosen unless you do some sort of hack.  Apple isn't always right in 
 its' decision making.  Don't even get me started on the Maps ordeal on iOS.
 
 On Dec 11, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hmmm, sounds like we have another Apple hater on our hands. Good luck with 
 hoping for Android to improve accessibility. As for the guy that had an 
 issue with using Itunes with his iPod, if you find anything else besides 
 Itunes, I'd love to hear it, because like it or not, we're stuck with what 
 we got. Also you can use Itunes on your iPhone or iPod and purchase stuff 
 there too if you have trouble with the Mac version.
 
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Re: EBook reader for Mac?

2012-12-12 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Adobe Digital Editions works on the Mac but it still doesn't automatically 
scroll pages which does slow things down some. If one really hates that, it is 
possible to copy and paste each page into an editor like Text Edit and then 
either turn it into audio or read with the editor. Just remember that to copy 
from Digital editions you have to use the copy phrase (vo-shift-c) instead of 
the usual copy command. Admitedly this is also time-consuming but does work.
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On Dec 12, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Brianna Snyder briannasnyde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I was wondering if there are any EBook readers for the Mac? I know that there 
 used to be Stanza, but I heard that Stanza was broken. I'd just like to be 
 able to read Ebooks on something other than the iDevices using either iBooks 
 or Nook. 
 
 Thanks for your help, 
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Re: EBook reader for Mac?

2012-12-12 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, this is correct; I apologize if you were asking about iBooks. IBooks with 
an i and ebooks with an e don't sound the same on my computer but the one 
with an i does sound like ebooks with an e should sound. Guess i'll have to fix 
that in pronunciation.

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On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Brianna,
 
 Adobe Digital Editions works for reading ebooks, but not iBooks, on the Mac. 
 As far as I know, there is no way of reading iBooks on anything but an 
 idevice.
 
 Adobe Digital Editions can read quite a number of DRM protected formats 
 including Kobo and Nook.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
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 On 12 Dec 2012, at 17:50, Brianna Snyder briannasnyde...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I was wondering if there are any EBook readers for the Mac? I know that 
 there used to be Stanza, but I heard that Stanza was broken. I'd just like 
 to be able to read Ebooks on something other than the iDevices using either 
 iBooks or Nook. 
 
 Thanks for your help, 
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Re: EBook reader for Mac?

2012-12-12 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Adobe Digital Editions is free.

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On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Brianna Snyder briannasnyde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I'm sorry, I should have clarified. I didn't mean IBooks, I know that only 
 the IOs IBOoks app can only do iBooks, and nothing else can. 
 
 I want to give IText Express a try. Does that read Nook books? I'm thinking 
 of making an account for that, since I found out that nook books are 
 accessible. 
 
 How much is Adobe Digital Editions? 
 
 Thanks a lot for your help, 
 Brianna 
 
 On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Matthew Campbell wrestling.ch...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Another alternative to both stanza and Adobe is iText Express, free on the 
 Mac App Store.
 I know that this app can read ePub formatted ebooks, but not books that you 
 have purchased in iBooks it's self. I'm not sure what other formats it can 
 read.
 Give it a try, its free.
 HTH.
 
 On 2012-12-12, at 11:50 AM, Brianna Snyder briannasnyde...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 I was wondering if there are any EBook readers for the Mac? I know that 
 there used to be Stanza, but I heard that Stanza was broken. I'd just like 
 to be able to read Ebooks on something other than the iDevices using either 
 iBooks or Nook. 
 
 Thanks for your help, 
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Re: mail refuses to get new messages?

2012-12-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, when I set up two-step verification I had to set up some 
application-specific passwords for things like Apple mail and my linux 
installation etc. that didn't support two-step verification. Maybe you already 
did it but here's the link to check out.

http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=1173270
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On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 No. I did enable two-step verification, but that was a couple days ago.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hmm.  That's very interesting.  Have you recently set up any rules that move 
 messages somewhere?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-12-17, at 9:34 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Everything is online and I see no error messages about passwords or 
 anything. The account is enabled and all the information is there, it just 
 refuses to get new mail. I have even restarted my computer and I am still 
 unable to get mail. All I can say is: thank goodness for my iPhone and 
 Fleksy! Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 When you're in the Mail app, go into the Account pane of the Mail 
 Preferences.  Select your GMail account and confirm that everything is 
 on-line.  YOu may wish to re-enter any passwords in the Incoming and 
 Outgoing Servers if things are off-line.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-12-17, at 8:03 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I use gMail, and have for years. Suddenly, Mail on the mac refuses to see 
 new messages, even though my iPhone is retrieving them just fine. I've 
 tried the take all accounts online and get new mail options in the 
 mailbox menu but neither seems to do anything. I've also closed and 
 re-opened mail, but to no avail. Any ideas? Thanks.
 
 
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Re: Wireless mini Bluetooth keyboard with a difference.

2012-12-18 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Can you explain specifically what  you mean by the option and command keys not 
working like the option and command key on the wireless keyboard? They may be 
in a different place, but isn't option still option and command still command?

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On Dec 18, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Blake Sinnett frequency...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Why would it clutter mailboxes? Others might want to know this also.
 
 I believe you're in the UK. No luck on finding what you want on Amazon, but 
 there's a keyboard that should work sold on comproom.co.uk. I'm in the US and 
 use this same model. It has arrows, control and alt or option keys and a 
 number row.
 
 Look for Rii Mini Bluetooth Keyboard With Backlight on this page.
 
 http://comproom.secured-area.co.uk/acatalog/Brand_und_Groeber_Communications__BugCom_.html
 
 The description kind of sucks on that page, so look here for a better one.
 
 http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=94zenid=522f1229537f9e950d626212d60cb8ac
 
 Hope this helps,
 Blake
 
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 To: viph...@googlegroups.com; The Accessible Phones Discussion List 
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 Subject: Wireless mini bluetooth keyboard with a difference.
 
 Hello.
 
 I for sometime have been looking for a mini bluetooth wireless keyboard for 
 my I phone.  However, all the small keyboards that I have bought and have 
 been dissatisfied with, have a flaw.  The command and option keys do not 
 work like the Apple Wireless Bluetooth keyboard that I have.  I need a small 
 keyboard so that I can put it in my bag as I'm out all day at work or 
 travelling about as I want to copy and paste on the move.  Does anyone know 
 a good keyboard which will work like the Apple Wireless Bluetooth keyboard 
 please?  I can't take my Apple keyboard with me due to it being rather big 
 for my bagg.  I do take my braille display with me some times but don't want 
 to use it all the time.
 
 Hope some one can help and if so, please put in the link for the blue tooth 
 keyboard please.  I mainly buy on Amazon.
 
 Perhaps you can write to me off list so as not to clutter any mailboxes.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Wireless mini Bluetooth keyboard with a difference.

2012-12-18 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, it does seem strange that command and option wouldn't work normally. It 
can't be a voiceover-combination problem per se since command has nothing to do 
with vo combinations. Maybe it has something to do with whether a keyboard can 
accept two-key combinations but even for Windows a keyboard has to do that. 
Very strange! I can tell you for sure that my IOGear multi-link bluetooth 
keyboard functions properly but I don't know if this is available in the UK. I 
bought it on Amazon but I am in the US. What I like about the multilink is that 
I can pair it with six different devices and easily switch between devices on 
it.


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On Dec 18, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 When I mean the option and command keys not working, if you go into VO's 
 practice area, and press the keys to find out their functions, you can press 
 the command and options and both say these things.  However, when using Voice 
 over properly in messages and notes and other applications, you can't get 
 command or option to work let alone they will not speak.  So if you did try 
 and copy text with shift down arrow or what ever it is to select text, if you 
 did try and press command C, V or X to copy paste or cut, then that will not 
 happen as the command key will not work.
 
 I hope this makes sense, as it's the same for the option keys so you can't do 
 traditional vo commands unless you have the proper Apple Wireless Bluetooth 
 keyboard.  The Apple keyboard is excellent but it will not fit in a hand bag.
 
 Kawal.  
 
 On 19 Dec 2012, at 12:13 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you explain specifically what  you mean by the option and command keys 
 not working like the option and command key on the wireless keyboard? They 
 may be in a different place, but isn't option still option and command still 
 command?
 
 -- 
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 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Blake Sinnett frequency...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Why would it clutter mailboxes? Others might want to know this also.
 
 I believe you're in the UK. No luck on finding what you want on Amazon, but 
 there's a keyboard that should work sold on comproom.co.uk. I'm in the US 
 and use this same model. It has arrows, control and alt or option keys and 
 a number row.
 
 Look for Rii Mini Bluetooth Keyboard With Backlight on this page.
 
 http://comproom.secured-area.co.uk/acatalog/Brand_und_Groeber_Communications__BugCom_.html
 
 The description kind of sucks on that page, so look here for a better one.
 
 http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=94zenid=522f1229537f9e950d626212d60cb8ac
 
 Hope this helps,
 Blake
 
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 To: viph...@googlegroups.com; The Accessible Phones Discussion List 
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 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Wireless mini bluetooth keyboard with a difference.
 
 Hello.
 
 I for sometime have been looking for a mini bluetooth wireless keyboard 
 for my I phone.  However, all the small keyboards that I have bought and 
 have been dissatisfied with, have a flaw.  The command and option keys do 
 not work like the Apple Wireless Bluetooth keyboard that I have.  I need a 
 small keyboard so that I can put it in my bag as I'm out all day at work 
 or travelling about as I want to copy and paste on the move.  Does anyone 
 know a good keyboard which will work like the Apple Wireless Bluetooth 
 keyboard please?  I can't take my Apple keyboard with me due to it being 
 rather big for my bagg.  I do take my braille display with me some times 
 but don't want to use it all the time.
 
 Hope some one can help and if so, please put in the link for the blue 
 tooth keyboard please.  I mainly buy on Amazon.
 
 Perhaps you can write to me off list so as not to clutter any mailboxes.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Wireless mini Bluetooth keyboard with a difference.

2012-12-18 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Definitely closer together and probably smaller but unless you have really 
large hands you would probably adjust. I don't consider them not well-spaced 
just differently spaced than the Apple Wireless.


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On Dec 18, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 How well spaced are the keys on yours compared to something like the apple 
 wireless keyboard?
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 
 Well, it does seem strange that command and option wouldn't work normally. 
 It can't be a voiceover-combination problem per se since command has nothing 
 to do with vo combinations. Maybe it has something to do with whether a 
 keyboard can accept two-key combinations but even for Windows a keyboard has 
 to do that. Very strange! I can tell you for sure that my IOGear multi-link 
 bluetooth keyboard functions properly but I don't know if this is available 
 in the UK. I bought it on Amazon but I am in the US. What I like about the 
 multilink is that I can pair it with six different devices and easily switch 
 between devices on it.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 When I mean the option and command keys not working, if you go into VO's 
 practice area, and press the keys to find out their functions, you can 
 press the command and options and both say these things.  However, when 
 using Voice over properly in messages and notes and other applications, you 
 can't get command or option to work let alone they will not speak.  So if 
 you did try and copy text with shift down arrow or what ever it is to 
 select text, if you did try and press command C, V or X to copy paste or 
 cut, then that will not happen as the command key will not work.
 
 I hope this makes sense, as it's the same for the option keys so you can't 
 do traditional vo commands unless you have the proper Apple Wireless 
 Bluetooth keyboard.  The Apple keyboard is excellent but it will not fit in 
 a hand bag.
 
 Kawal.  
 
 On 19 Dec 2012, at 12:13 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you explain specifically what  you mean by the option and command keys 
 not working like the option and command key on the wireless keyboard? They 
 may be in a different place, but isn't option still option and command 
 still command?
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Blake Sinnett frequency...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Why would it clutter mailboxes? Others might want to know this also.
 
 I believe you're in the UK. No luck on finding what you want on Amazon, 
 but there's a keyboard that should work sold on comproom.co.uk. I'm in 
 the US and use this same model. It has arrows, control and alt or option 
 keys and a number row.
 
 Look for Rii Mini Bluetooth Keyboard With Backlight on this page.
 
 http://comproom.secured-area.co.uk/acatalog/Brand_und_Groeber_Communications__BugCom_.html
 
 The description kind of sucks on that page, so look here for a better one.
 
 http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=94zenid=522f1229537f9e950d626212d60cb8ac
 
 Hope this helps,
 Blake
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:51 PM
 To: viph...@googlegroups.com; The Accessible Phones Discussion List 
 blindpho...@mosenexplosion.com; macvisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Wireless mini bluetooth keyboard with a difference.
 
 Hello.
 
 I for sometime have been looking for a mini bluetooth wireless keyboard 
 for my I phone.  However, all the small keyboards that I have bought and 
 have been dissatisfied with, have a flaw.  The command and option keys 
 do not work like the Apple Wireless Bluetooth keyboard that I have.  I 
 need a small keyboard so that I can put it in my bag as I'm out all day 
 at work or travelling about as I want to copy and paste on the move.  
 Does anyone know a good keyboard which will work like the Apple Wireless 
 Bluetooth keyboard please?  I can't take my Apple keyboard with me due 
 to it being rather big for my bagg.  I do take my braille display with 
 me some times but don't want to use it all the time.
 
 Hope some one can help and if so, please put in the link for the blue 
 tooth keyboard please.  I mainly buy on Amazon.
 
 Perhaps you can write to me off list so as not to clutter any mailboxes.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Hard Drive Space Question

2012-12-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I use superduper just fine with Mountain lion and I intend to continue to use 
it, especially after one incident where my Time machine backup couldn't be 
used; I think the more options you have, the better off you are. But I need you 
to clarify some things.
1. You are backing up from your hard drive to a 1tb partition on an external 
drive: correct?

2. Are you also running time machine somewhere?
3. Note that you made what I think is a typo: I think you mean 641gb not 641tb: 
correct?
4. Are you losing space on your hard drive or on the external partition where 
you are backing up with superduper or on some other partition of the external 
drive? If it's your hard drive, I don't think superduper is putting 400gb of 
log files etc. on your hard drive.
5. Did you erase the backup partition using disk utility before running the 
superduper application? I do remember a time when I ran superduper and for some 
reason it couldn't erase the partition?
6. Have you checked how much space is being used on the partition where your 
superduper backup is and have you booted into it to see if it is working 
properly?
7. Have you received any messages from superduper saying the backup couldn't be 
completed or has it failed to complete?

I'm sorry to make things complicated by asking for more information but I 
really will try to help if you can clarify things for me.
 

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On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Emilio emilio.s.hernan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I backed-up to an external CGate 3TB HD.
 The drive is partitioned into 1TB sections.
 For those familiar with Super Duper I backed-up with the first option because 
 the manual hah reccommended to do so with a first back-up.
 This problem is very annoying because I should not be losing so much disk 
 space. Before the install I had roughly 641TB utilized, and now its almost 
 all being used.
 
 Sorry for the ranting, but thank you all for your kind suggestions. 
 
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Re: Parallels or Fusion for running virtualized OSX with Voiceover?

2012-12-20 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Why not just have a separate user account created for yourself instead of a vm? 
I suppose it could even be an account without administrative permissions though 
that might create some problems. It seems to me that if you want to get an 
experience using Mac OS and you have a Mac to use, you are just adding another 
layer of complication by making a vm instead. Not trying to argue if this is 
really what you want to do but I really think you would be better off just 
running Mac OS on the Mac in the normal way.


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On Dec 20, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

 My Girlfriend has a macbook pro that she is willing to let me use as a 
 secondary machine to learn more about OSX and iphone programming. I'd like to 
 do this in a virtual machine running OSX to insure complete isolation just in 
 case I were to fat finger a terminal command or do something else stupid that 
 would mess something up system wide instead of just effecting a single user 
 account on the machine. Since I need both basic voiceover support for the 
 virtual machine software as well as full voiceover support in the guest which 
 is the better option, Fusion or Parallels and why? Note Windows won't be run 
 as a virtual machine so I'm not worried about Windows screen reader support 
 in the vm.
 
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Re: Problem With MacTubes

2012-12-22 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't think it's a problem with MacTubes itself; it is still working fine 
here. But unfortunately I can't think wat the problem might be. I suppose you 
could try uninstalling and reinstalling it but I tend to think it's something 
else on your system.


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On Dec 22, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the latest and I find that almost no videos play. I don't get any 
 errors, but nor do I get the videos. Very odd.
 On Dec 22, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Shawn,
 be sure to use the latest version of Mactubes. Should help to update.
 All the best
 Jürgen
 Am 22.12.2012 um 09:01 schrieb Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com:
 
 Hi guys. I've been trying to watch videos with Mactubes and I get an error 
 message saying an error has occurred with the player. When I try 
 downloading the video it says that the download couldn't start. Anybody 
 know how to solve this problem?
 
 Shawn
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booting into Windows

2012-12-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
What is the easiest way to boot into Windows when restarting the Mac if you 
don't want to change the startup disk to Windows in preferences? I just 
installed a bootcamp partition with Windows.



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Re: mac mini

2012-12-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Did you solve this yet? I can tell you how to keep it from happening in the 
future if you are able to log in.
Go into System Preferences  Bluetooth. In Advanced are two checkboxes: one 
opens bluetooth setup assistant if no keybopard is detected; the other opens it 
if no mouse or trackpad is detected. You probably only need the second one but 
you can decide that.

As for logging in, if you haven't solved that, when bluetooth setup assistant 
pops up, try one of the following (these aren't necessarily in a herarchical 
order):
command-tab instad of doing cmd-q
vo-f2 twice to see if you get a window chooser though I think maybe not.
vo-f2 twice in the window that says authentication has no windows)
turning voiceover on and off in that authentication has no windows area.
Or just log in with both a keyboard and mouse attached and you shouldn't get 
that window at all. Then you can fix the problem in System Preferences as 
described above.
Hth.


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On Dec 27, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear listers,
 After laying my hands on mac mini, I'm running into some problems. I went 
 through the initial setup assistant, chose my language, filled in my Apple 
 ID, etc etc. Everything went just fine. I turned off bluetooth because I'm 
 not going to need a mouse or a trackpad. All was fine and I shut down the 
 mini.
 
 A few hours later I came back and booted. VoiceOver support comes when I hit 
 command f5, but I can change that later on, so that VO comes on even at log 
 on. But what happens now is, that I boot, and then try to click my user name 
 and enter my password, but at that time, a dialog pops up, saying the mini is 
 looking for a keyboard or mouse via bluetooth. I have a usb keyboard though, 
 and no mouse. This dialog states that I can get rid of it, i.e. stop the mini 
 from looking for a mouse or trackpad, simply by hitting command q. Hit 
 command q if you don't have a trackpad or wireless mouse it says. But when I 
 do that, I am not returned to the dialog where I can enter my username and 
 password for log on. Instead, I land in a window where it says: 
 authentication has no windows. From here, I can indeed turn on or off 
 voiceover, but there is no way to enter my log on account info to go on. I 
 tried vo f1 twice, but it dings at me, instead of telling me how many apps 
 are open. Maybe, you can only use vo f1 f1 from the desktop, or from one of 
 its children I suppose.
 
 So what do I do now? Can I still log in? Is there any way to get around this 
 issue, or did I just screw up the device, and do I need to completely 
 reinstall it using a usb key with mountain lion on it? That is no problem at 
 all, but it takes time I'd rather use for more productive things than 
 reinstalling a new device. Did any of you exprerience this situation? How did 
 you all get around this problem? Was it stupidity not to get a wireless mouse 
 or magic pad?
 
 Kind regards,
 Paul.
 
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Re: mac mini

2012-12-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
So glad yuou found a solution!
When voiceover first came available several years ago, some people had problems 
getting voiceover to start up. So with the first two minis I got, I ended up 
having to reinstall completely just in order to get started the first time - 
talk about making a newbie sink or swim! I could have waited for sighted help 
but I, like you, was impatient and didn't want to do that. So I'm not surprised 
that you took the course you did and I'm glad it worked for you. I've never 
encrypted but i may give it some thought after your description.

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On Dec 28, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Cheryl,
 
 I sort of solved the problem, and thanks for the pointer to the checkboxes in 
 sysprefs, bluetooth, advanced. I wasn't aware of those. So yes, I did fix the 
 problem, but really differently. I gave up on logging in. I restarted from 
 the recovery partition, wiped the macintosh hd partition, installed os10 from 
 there, updated it, and was back where I was. However, this time, I encrypted 
 my disk, so that I would get my login prompt way before any bluetooth stuff 
 would pop up. As it is now, the mini asks for my credentials 1 second after 
 boot up starts, because that's the way filevault handles encryption for the 
 whole disk. After you enter them, it boots straight to the desktop and 
 there's no further authentication windows. So now, I was already logged in, 
 but I did still get the dialog asking for a trackpad or mouse. These are gone 
 now, thanks to your explanation. But I was impatient to get going with it 
 yesterday I'm afraid, but again, I learned something. Thanks for your 
 response.
 
 Paul.
 On Dec 28, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Did you solve this yet? I can tell you how to keep it from happening in the 
 future if you are able to log in.
 Go into System Preferences  Bluetooth. In Advanced are two checkboxes: one 
 opens bluetooth setup assistant if no keybopard is detected; the other opens 
 it if no mouse or trackpad is detected. You probably only need the second 
 one but you can decide that.
 
 As for logging in, if you haven't solved that, when bluetooth setup 
 assistant pops up, try one of the following (these aren't necessarily in a 
 herarchical order):
 command-tab instad of doing cmd-q
 vo-f2 twice to see if you get a window chooser though I think maybe not.
 vo-f2 twice in the window that says authentication has no windows)
 turning voiceover on and off in that authentication has no windows area.
 Or just log in with both a keyboard and mouse attached and you shouldn't get 
 that window at all. Then you can fix the problem in System Preferences as 
 described above.
 Hth.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear listers,
 After laying my hands on mac mini, I'm running into some problems. I went 
 through the initial setup assistant, chose my language, filled in my Apple 
 ID, etc etc. Everything went just fine. I turned off bluetooth because I'm 
 not going to need a mouse or a trackpad. All was fine and I shut down the 
 mini.
 
 A few hours later I came back and booted. VoiceOver support comes when I 
 hit command f5, but I can change that later on, so that VO comes on even at 
 log on. But what happens now is, that I boot, and then try to click my user 
 name and enter my password, but at that time, a dialog pops up, saying the 
 mini is looking for a keyboard or mouse via bluetooth. I have a usb 
 keyboard though, and no mouse. This dialog states that I can get rid of it, 
 i.e. stop the mini from looking for a mouse or trackpad, simply by hitting 
 command q. Hit command q if you don't have a trackpad or wireless mouse it 
 says. But when I do that, I am not returned to the dialog where I can enter 
 my username and password for log on. Instead, I land in a window where it 
 says: authentication has no windows. From here, I can indeed turn on or off 
 voiceover, but there is no way to enter my log on account info to go on. I 
 tried vo f1 twice, but it dings at me, instead of telling me how many apps 
 are open. Maybe, you can only use vo f1 f1 from the desktop, or from one of 
 its children I suppose.
 
 So what do I do now? Can I still log in? Is there any way to get around 
 this issue, or did I just screw up the device, and do I need to completely 
 reinstall it using a usb key with mountain lion on it? That is no problem 
 at all, but it takes time I'd rather use for more productive things than 
 reinstalling a new device. Did any of you exprerience this situation? How 
 did you all get around this problem? Was it stupidity not to get a wireless

Re: super-duper, or time machine and why?

2012-12-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Not only that, but super duper saved me when for some reason, on two different 
Time Machine backup choices, it churned around for a couple of hours and then 
announced that it couldn't restore from this backup! I still haven't researched 
why but I can tel you that if I keep using Time Machine I am going to verify 
and I most certainly am not going to stop using super duper.

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be acceptable to You, Lord,
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 Hello folks,
 When I had to recover my system, Super Duper's image saved my life. The 
 assistant that asks about transferring data was able to transfer over my 
 entire system as I had it. So if anything maybe Super Duper might be an ok 
 choice.
 Plus, Super Duper makes your image bootable, allowing you to boot off the 
 image. Restoring with Time Machine doesn't seem possible, if it is, I've 
 never been successful at doing it.
 
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Re: Tax web sites

2012-12-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, as far as the captcha is concerned, I just started using

http://www.skipinput.com

in Safari on my Mac. So far it is working fine. So if it continues to work and 
will work on the website, it won't matter that the captcha is still there. But 
of course it is somewhat worrisome not to know until you get to the end of the 
process.


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On Dec 28, 2012, at 11:19 PM, Dan Roy droy1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh yes, last year was the first time they used a 
 captcha, it was quite annoying.  I will definitely drop a line to support 
 soon and mention this as a problem.
 
 On Dec 28, 2012, at 11:04 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I also had used the Windows stand-alone version for several years.  Last 
 year (tax year 2011), I used the online web site from a Linux box using 
 Firefox.  Accessibility was fine.  
 
 However, I ran into a CAPTCHA at the time of filing! Thankfully, I was on 
 Firefox and could use Webvisum to complete.  I bitched to them in a comment 
 at the end of the session to tell them they should get rid of the CAPTCHA. I 
 can't see where that prevents anything after filling out a complete tax 
 return.  Come on folks, get rid of CAPTCHA once and for all!
 
 I think it would be interesting to use Safari this year as long as they 
 don't pop up with that damnable CAPTCHA again.
 
 On Dec 10, 2012, at 6:31 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dan
 So far as I can see right now, it works great with VoiceOver on the iPhone. 
 I'm thinking about trying it when I put in data. I don't know yet because I 
 have discovered that using the paste phrase option on the Mac is a great 
 thing too. I have been using it lately to paste in numbers into Numbers. If 
 you tell VO to stop talking fast enough, then you can just paste the number 
 into there without extra phrasing. 
 
 On Dec 9, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Dan Roy droy1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wasn't aware that taxact had If  ca app for the iPhone, will investigate 
 this.
 
 
 On Dec 8, 2012, at 11:57 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Dan
 Thanks for the information. I also downloadedi the app for the iPhone, 
 and got myself registered owner. I had no trouble with the iPhone app at 
 all, and I was really surprised that the App Store listed it only with 
 two stars.  I think it needs to have more than that.
 Regards
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 8, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Dan Roy droy1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Electronic filing works just fine. At the end of your return, it will 
 run through some checks to make sure everything is ready for electronic 
 filing, then,it will happen.  Just follow the insructions, you should do 
 just fine.
 
 TaxAct does, I believe have downloadable software which you can use 
 offline, however, using the web site version is cheaper and fully 
 accessible.  Now, hopefully, they won't throw something in to mess up 
 the 2012 returns, but, I don't expect that will happen.
 
 
 On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi there
 I have no idea. I thought tax act was a website and not a program of 
 any kind. You know, electronic filing. That's kind of what I was 
 asking, about the accessibility of this.
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I used to use TaxAct and found it quite accessible.  Is there a 
 version for the Mac?
 
 Les
 On Dec 6, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hello Gigi. I have ben using Tax Act for several years. There are two 
 ways to prepare a tax return. One way is for people who want to get 
 straight to the forms. I didn’t find this approach accessible. 
 However, Taxact also takes you through a Question and Answer process. 
 This process is accessible and editable. Yes, you can start your 
 return, sign out and continue later. You can file electronically and 
 don’t need to submit any paper documents at all. Noone physically has 
 to sign anything, it’s all done through electronic PINS. You never 
 touch the forms. However, you can print your return and you get the 
 completed forms on paper and in .pdf documents. I haven’t tried the 
 Schedule C yet but I don’t expect any issues. Depending on the 
 complexity of your return, you may have to get the paid version. I’ll 
 cross that bridge when I file my return.
 
 I’ll let you know how it goes.
 
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:54 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Tax web sites
 
 Hi guys. 
 I know it's a bit early on this, but I have a Schedule C to file 
 again this year, which means it takes time etc. to do one. Here's my 
 question for you guys. Someone on this list said that they had used 
 taxact.com for their 

Re: macvisionaries list

2012-12-31 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hmmm, I did it by signing up in google groups; I think it took about a week 
which was a little long. I don't know if it helped that I was already in google 
groups or if moderation has changed or what happened. I didn't receive anything 
that said I needed to be invited, just that the moderator had to approve it. 
Sorry people are having such problems!

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my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Dec 31, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't mean to be rude either, but it appears that the mods don't really 
 seem to manage this list hardly at all as they need to do.  I don't wanna 
 tell them their jobs, as that isn't my place, but if he has to be invited, 
 which wouldn't surprise me, I doubt he's gonna get on very quickly.
 
 I'm just gonna say the bold truth.  If the mods don't like me doing so, then, 
 take better management.  It's not rocket science.  You don't want a bad name, 
 then don't give yourselves one.
 
 I have a friend who tried joining, and it literally took 3 months before the 
 mods approved his subscription.  By then, he'd already forgotten about it, 
 given up, and said screw it, I don't really want on the list after all 
 anymore anyway.
 
 I've asked things like this, or how to get ahold of the mods many many times, 
 and no list member seems to answer, nor really know.  Not to mention, when 
 I've asked the mods before to contact me, they never have.  If this were 
 truely a matter of Chris, you need to wait, and be more patient. They have 
 lives, you know... that would be one thing, but this is about the 4th or 5th 
 time I've seen list administration questions come up, which never get 
 answered.  As for your specific friend's question, I wish I could give you a 
 more concreet answer, but I honestly can't.  I'm just writing to say, once 
 they're on the list, they're fine, unless a problem arises, which fortunately 
 almost never does, but if one does, good frickin luck!  It's driven me so 
 crazy a few times, I've almost recently considerred leaving the list.  I'm 
 not quite yet to that point of decision, but I'm slowly but surely 
 considering it.  I really don't want a list that isn't seemingly at least, 
 managed at all.  If I'm in the wrong, I'll be happy to open mouth, and insert 
 foot, but from what I see, I'm not incorrect in my thought process.
 
 Anyway, good luck.
 
 Thank you kindly,
 
 Christopher-Mark Gilland.
 Founder of CLG Productions
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 Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 1:16 PM
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Re: TypeInBraille: Leaves a lot to be desired

2013-01-04 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually I kind of like typeinbraille but I think I will be much faster with 
BrailleTouch.

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my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Jan 4, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Chris
 I have this app and never use it because I find the order of having to write 
 in cumbersome.
 
 That said, there are actually various braille standards around the world and 
 some of the symbols this app uses are correct for those standards. For 
 example, in many European countries the capital sign is dots 46 and the 
 period is dot 3. I wonder if this app was designed with  them in mind?
 As far as I know though, semicolon is dots 23 in American  or English 
 braille. I think question mark might be the th sign. 
 It's not an app designed for English grade Two use which is why I never use 
 it. I don't know about the brackets sorry.
 
 If I were you, I'd hold off until the braille touch app becomes available in 
 the app store this month.
 www.brailletouchapp.com is the website I believe. 
 
 Type in braille is, like many of these braille apps, an interesting idea 
 which doesn't really work in practice.
 Just my opinion. I haven't read the review but would probably disagree with 
 it from the sound of what you say. 
 
 Lisette
 
 On 5/01/2013, at 12:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 OK, I was all? most! convinced to buy this app after hearing David's review 
 on AppleVis.  Before I go any further, let me just say that I'm referring to 
 the TypeInBraille I O S app.  So again, this is for I O S, not for O S X.
 
 I then heard a few things which really! were deal breakers.  I'm just 
 wonderring if someone can answer a few questions, and maybe help me 
 understand the logic of a few things.
 
 First, the logic side of it:
 
 1.  dot 3 is a period?  Huh?  I thought that a period would be dots 2, 5, 6 
 in grade 2 braille, or in computer braille, would be dots 4 6.  So then, how 
 do you make an apostrophy which normally is! dot 3, both in grade 2, as well 
 as in computer braille?  OK, this leads me to the next point.
 
 2.  Dots 4 6 is a capital letter?  I thought 4 6 was a period in computer 
 braille, and in grade 2, if written by itself was the bold face indicator.
 
 3.  Slash is a low d? 2, 4, 5?  I thought that was the number 4 in computer 
 braille, or a period in grade 2 or a dd sign if in the middle of a word, or 
 d i s sign at the beginning of a word.
 
 4.  Semicolon is dots 2 3?  Wut?  I thought 2 3 was a bb sign in grade 2, or 
 in computer braille was the number 2.
 
 5.  Dot 5 is an at simmble?  I thought that was dot 4.  More specifically, I 
 always learned it as dot 4 A.
 
 Now for my questions.
 
 1.  Can we not type in grade 2 and have it translate?
 2.  How do I type an  exclaimation mark?
 3.  If dot 5 is the at simble, then how do I do my quote marks?  Is that 
 still low h to start, and low j to end like in grade 2?
 
 4.  How do I do a question mark?
 5.  Are my left and right parenthesis still written with the o f sign, and 
 the with sign or do I do that more like grade 2, with low g both ways, etc.
 
 I dono...  There are just enough things here that do not seem to follow 
 correct braille standard from what I can see, that I really am not totally 
 sure until I understand why they couldn't have incorporated correct braille 
 characterization that make this a major! major major! deal breaker for me. 
 Plus, I'd like to know if grade 2's an option.  If it is, and someone can 
 explain to me why such strange ways of writing some a those characters, 
 then? I might! key word, might! consider buying it, but I need some 
 clarification first.  I'm not trying to complain, believe me.  It's just 
 that when I've been tought correct braille, it's very confusing trying to 
 change to another form which may as wel almost be it's own seperet braille 
 table in itself.  Maybe I'm just too picky, I dono, but I'd rather it be 
 done correctly, ya know?
 
 Thank you kindly,
 
 Christopher-Mark Gilland.
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Re: audio highjack pro

2013-01-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Can you give a little more detail about what confuses you? You choose the 
safari session from the components and sessions list; You choose your recording 
settings from the recording tab; you check the hijack box and the record button 
and the mute button if you want it or as ray pointed out use the keyboard 
shortcuts. It seems simple to me but I've been using it for a long time so I 
would think of it that way. Please enlarge on where you need help. I believe 
safari opens when you check the hijack box but I'm not sure because I usually 
already have safari going and on what I want to record if it's something live. 
I think the safari session is already in the components and sessions list and 
you don't have to create the session. If you have to do that or if you are 
trying to schedule a time for it to start, that could call for a little more 
instruction but even that shouldn't be too difficult. I don't know of any 
podcasts right off the top of my head but I am sure there must be some. Have 
you searched for any?

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On Jan 5, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi folks
 I'm trying out this app but having some trouble figuring out how to record 
 audio from Safari. Has anybody done any tutorials on this? Applevis doesn't 
 seem to have anything.
 I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out the concepts in the app so I can get 
 started. 
 It's supposed to be really simple but right now Im a bit confused by how to 
 use this app. Thanks.
 
 Lisette
 
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Re: audio highjack pro

2013-01-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, I just check and uncheck the record box in the toolbar rather than doing 
the keyboard shortcut but maybe the keyboard shortcut is a toggle. In the 
component and session list is something called recording bin and that's how you 
access your recordings in audio hijack pro though you can also just go to the 
directory they are in with finder and open them.

That's all I have time to write right this minute but will try to get back to 
you with more later if somebody else doesn't.


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On Jan 5, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Cheryl and Ray
 Thanks for these tips.
 If you check the highjack and the  record boxes, do you still have to do 
 command r to start recording?
 How do you stop recording? I can't find a stop button or keyboard shortcut. 
 Can you play recordings from within audio highjack pro? I can't find a way to 
 do that. I see where it saves them.
 Do you ever use the command g keystroke which is supposed to be a quick 
 record button? 
 How do people record a microphone and VO at the same time, such as in  many 
 of the podcasts on Applevis? It seems like you either have to choose between  
 system audio, application, device or am/fm radio? 
 If you choose a Safari session, do you need to change the input settings or 
 will it automatically select the right one?
 Once I get the hang of the broad concepts I'll be fine I'm sure. Thanks for 
 answering my questions.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 6/01/2013, at 2:51 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you give a little more detail about what confuses you? You choose the 
 safari session from the components and sessions list; You choose your 
 recording settings from the recording tab; you check the hijack box and the 
 record button and the mute button if you want it or as ray pointed out use 
 the keyboard shortcuts. It seems simple to me but I've been using it for a 
 long time so I would think of it that way. Please enlarge on where you need 
 help. I believe safari opens when you check the hijack box but I'm not sure 
 because I usually already have safari going and on what I want to record if 
 it's something live. I think the safari session is already in the components 
 and sessions list and you don't have to create the session. If you have to 
 do that or if you are trying to schedule a time for it to start, that could 
 call for a little more instruction but even that shouldn't be too difficult. 
 I don't know of any podcasts right off the top of my head but I am sure 
 there must be some. Have you searched for any?
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
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 wrote:
 
 Hi folks
 I'm trying out this app but having some trouble figuring out how to record 
 audio from Safari. Has anybody done any tutorials on this? Applevis doesn't 
 seem to have anything.
 I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out the concepts in the app so I can 
 get started. 
 It's supposed to be really simple but right now Im a bit confused by how 
 to use this app. Thanks.
 
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Re: Moving mail from one mailbox to another.

2013-01-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
maybe he isn't quite in the right area.
First have him make sure he is in the messages table; he can't be just in the 
messages column  group which has both the sorting menu and the messages table; 
he must interact with or at least be focused on the messages table itself. Then 
he must  do command-a to select all.
then do ctrl-option-shift-m to go into the shortcut menu. type m for move and 
when he lands there he would do a right arrow and would be in the list of 
mailboxes. There should be no problem with this.  Move to and copy to are 
both in the shortcut menu
 but what you see in the shortcut menu depends on where your focus is. So the 
only thing I can think of is that the focus is not on the messages table 
itself. One way to make this simpler might be to go to classic view in mail; 
then it may be easier to determine that he is really focused on the messages 
table itself.



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On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 why not just select all, then cut and paste?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 I felt exactly the same thing, however he is claiming that he does not see 
 that option under the shortcut menu. I am out and about, so I am not buy a 
 Mac or I can verify this right at this given time. I do agree with you 
 however, that I would think it would be that simple.
 
 Thanks
 
 Chris.
 
 
 
 
 This message was very likely created using Siri dictation. I therefore 
 kindly ask that you please excuse any, and all typos Which may have 
 occurred. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 silly question.
 Could he just press vo+shift+m to bring up the context menue and then hit 
 move to and choose his mailbox of choosing?
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 I have a friend who I am emailing on his behalf.
 
 We are trying to figure out if there is a way in mail to move the 
 particular email message from one mailbox to another. Right now all the 
 email is in his unified inbox on his Mac. We want to move it completely 
 out of his inbox into the mailbox of its own. He has already created the 
 mailbox, we just need to get it moved. I know that from a sided 
 perspective He could simply drag at the email from that mailbox and drop 
 it onto the other mailbox in his mailbox table, but obviously, this is not 
 easy to do with voiceover. I understand that there are ways invoice over 
 to drag/drop, however, for him I think this may be a little bit difficult. 
 Is there another work around that may be easier? Thanks for any help.
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 
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Re: Moving mail from one mailbox to another.

2013-01-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
It sounded to me like he wanted to move all of them which would seem to 
indicate there was more than one. If he doesn't do cmd-a and he thought he was 
moving all of them, it won't work. He doesn't need to do cmd-a if there is only 
one message but if he does it won't hurt anything.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cheryl,
 
 If you don't mind me asking, what is the reason for pressing command a before 
 actually going to the mailbox menu in the menu bar? What if he has only one 
 message that he wants out of all the messages in his message table to move? 
 If he presses command a, it's going to select all messages including those 
 that he Maine not wish to do. I just thought that I would throw that in as a 
 valid question of point. Let me know if there's any other logical reason. 
 Thanks.
 
 Chris.
 
 
 
 
 This message was very likely created using Siri dictation. I therefore kindly 
 ask that you please excuse any, and all typos Which may have occurred. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 maybe he isn't quite in the right area.
 First have him make sure he is in the messages table; he can't be just in 
 the messages column  group which has both the sorting menu and the messages 
 table; he must interact with or at least be focused on the messages table 
 itself. Then he must  do command-a to select all.
 then do ctrl-option-shift-m to go into the shortcut menu. type m for move 
 and when he lands there he would do a right arrow and would be in the list 
 of mailboxes. There should be no problem with this.  Move to and copy to 
 are both in the shortcut menu
 but what you see in the shortcut menu depends on where your focus is. So the 
 only thing I can think of is that the focus is not on the messages table 
 itself. One way to make this simpler might be to go to classic view in mail; 
 then it may be easier to determine that he is really focused on the messages 
 table itself.
 
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 why not just select all, then cut and paste?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 I felt exactly the same thing, however he is claiming that he does not see 
 that option under the shortcut menu. I am out and about, so I am not buy a 
 Mac or I can verify this right at this given time. I do agree with you 
 however, that I would think it would be that simple.
 
 Thanks
 
 Chris.
 
 
 
 
 This message was very likely created using Siri dictation. I therefore 
 kindly ask that you please excuse any, and all typos Which may have 
 occurred. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 silly question.
 Could he just press vo+shift+m to bring up the context menue and then hit 
 move to and choose his mailbox of choosing?
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 I have a friend who I am emailing on his behalf.
 
 We are trying to figure out if there is a way in mail to move the 
 particular email message from one mailbox to another. Right now all the 
 email is in his unified inbox on his Mac. We want to move it completely 
 out of his inbox into the mailbox of its own. He has already created the 
 mailbox, we just need to get it moved. I know that from a sided 
 perspective He could simply drag at the email from that mailbox and drop 
 it onto the other mailbox in his mailbox table, but obviously, this is 
 not easy to do with voiceover. I understand that there are ways invoice 
 over to drag/drop, however, for him I think this may be a little bit 
 difficult. Is there another work around that may be easier? Thanks for 
 any help.
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 
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 kindly ask that you please excuse any, and all typos Which may have 
 occurred. 
 
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Re: Moving mail from one mailbox to another.

2013-01-07 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, the same directions still hold; you just have to make sure the message 
you want to move is selected.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cheryl,
 
 Let me clarify exactly what the deal is. Basically, he has about three or 
 four messages in his inbox. He only wants to move the first of those messages 
 to his other mailbox. The second two of the three, he wants to leave alone in 
 his inbox without moving them. Does that make better sense?
 
 Sorry for the confusion. I should've clarified.
 
 Chris.
 
 
 
 
 This message was very likely created using Siri dictation. I therefore kindly 
 ask that you please excuse any, and all typos Which may have occurred. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It sounded to me like he wanted to move all of them which would seem to 
 indicate there was more than one. If he doesn't do cmd-a and he thought he 
 was moving all of them, it won't work. He doesn't need to do cmd-a if there 
 is only one message but if he does it won't hurt anything.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Cheryl,
 
 If you don't mind me asking, what is the reason for pressing command a 
 before actually going to the mailbox menu in the menu bar? What if he has 
 only one message that he wants out of all the messages in his message table 
 to move? If he presses command a, it's going to select all messages 
 including those that he Maine not wish to do. I just thought that I would 
 throw that in as a valid question of point. Let me know if there's any 
 other logical reason. Thanks.
 
 Chris.
 
 
 
 
 This message was very likely created using Siri dictation. I therefore 
 kindly ask that you please excuse any, and all typos Which may have 
 occurred. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 maybe he isn't quite in the right area.
 First have him make sure he is in the messages table; he can't be just in 
 the messages column  group which has both the sorting menu and the 
 messages table; he must interact with or at least be focused on the 
 messages table itself. Then he must  do command-a to select all.
 then do ctrl-option-shift-m to go into the shortcut menu. type m for move 
 and when he lands there he would do a right arrow and would be in the list 
 of mailboxes. There should be no problem with this.  Move to and copy 
 to are both in the shortcut menu
 but what you see in the shortcut menu depends on where your focus is. So 
 the only thing I can think of is that the focus is not on the messages 
 table itself. One way to make this simpler might be to go to classic view 
 in mail; then it may be easier to determine that he is really focused on 
 the messages table itself.
 
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 why not just select all, then cut and paste?
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 I felt exactly the same thing, however he is claiming that he does not 
 see that option under the shortcut menu. I am out and about, so I am not 
 buy a Mac or I can verify this right at this given time. I do agree with 
 you however, that I would think it would be that simple.
 
 Thanks
 
 Chris.
 
 
 
 
 This message was very likely created using Siri dictation. I therefore 
 kindly ask that you please excuse any, and all typos Which may have 
 occurred. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 silly question.
 Could he just press vo+shift+m to bring up the context menue and then 
 hit move to and choose his mailbox of choosing?
 
 On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 I have a friend who I am emailing on his behalf.
 
 We are trying to figure out if there is a way in mail to move the 
 particular email message from one mailbox to another. Right now all 
 the email is in his unified inbox on his Mac. We want to move it 
 completely out of his inbox into the mailbox of its own. He has 
 already created the mailbox, we just need to get it moved. I know that 
 from a sided perspective He could simply drag at the email from that 
 mailbox and drop it onto the other mailbox in his mailbox table, but 
 obviously, this is not easy to do with voiceover. I understand

Re: audio hi-jack pro the one method to record simultaneous sources at once. Please help

2013-01-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I just want to make it clear that you don't need a script to record two or more 
sessions at the same time. It's only when you are trying to use two or more 
sources to work together in the same recording or project or from sources that 
conflict in some way that you would need a script. I can, for instance, hijack 
vlc and safari at the same time as long as what I want is to record from two 
sources which I happen to be running at the same time but which I am not trying 
to use together in some way. Probably everybody understood this but i just 
wanted to make sure there was no confusion.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 The best way I've found to do this is to first hijack all the sources you 
 would like to use then, use this multi recording apple script I will be 
 providing a link for at the end of this message.  I've taken the script, 
 placed it in Mac HD/library/scripts so I could then assign the script with a 
 VO keyboard commander shortcut or, a trackpad commander shortcut if you 
 prefer.  So once my sources are hijacked, I press the command to trigger the 
 multi record script, and all sources I hijacked are being recorded and they 
 are synced.
 
 The down side is all hijacked sources are on individual files.  I then put 
 all the recordings into Garageband and export as a single file.  Of course, 
 you can use any multi track recorder of your choice to do this.
 
 I found myself having to jump through all these hoops because, later versions 
 of hijack pro with instan on didn't record my microphone while system audio 
 was being recorded. 
 
 multi record script plus the script to stop multi recordings.
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/Multi%20record%20scripts.zip
 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 8, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi ALl,
 
 So i've managed to find a lot of different sources and uses for audiohijack, 
 and it's a great tool to have.
 
 However, i'm looking for a definite and efficient way to simultaneously 
 record different sources at once (for podcasting, skype while using system 
 sounds, etc etc.). The only half baked method i've found was to schedule a 
 recording at a certain time, say in 5 minutes, for two or more sources, and 
 wait until it starts. Not the best though there's no audio work to do to 
 synch each source's recording afterward.
 
 Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 Best 
 
 yYuma 
 
 
 
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Re: audio hi-jack pro the one method to record simultaneous sources at once. Please help

2013-01-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
When you hijack the program, you are able to control it: for instance mute it 
and I think change volume though I don't think we can do that accessibly; of 
course we can mute it with the mute checkbox. The record checkbox actually 
records. Also, I like the fact that you don't have to hop between windows if 
you are hijacking from more than one source or application. Everything is 
controlled by simply going to the item in the Components and Session list and 
setting and monitoring your settings for that source. I also like the fact that 
in recording I can set it up to handle silent periods by stopping or starting a 
new file or omitting  the silent periods. That way when something I am 
recording stops while I am not thee to attend to it I don't have minutes or 
hours of silence on the recording.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Cheryl
 Thanks for clarifying that. I'm still slightly confused about the programme  
 generally  but am working on it (smile).
 What is the difference between highjacking something and recording something? 
 That's what's confusing me. You seem to  have to check both boxes to get a 
 recording so they are obviously different but how?
 
 Lisette
 On 9/01/2013, at 6:55 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just want to make it clear that you don't need a script to record two or 
 more sessions at the same time. It's only when you are trying to use two or 
 more sources to work together in the same recording or project or from 
 sources that conflict in some way that you would need a script. I can, for 
 instance, hijack vlc and safari at the same time as long as what I want is 
 to record from two sources which I happen to be running at the same time but 
 which I am not trying to use together in some way. Probably everybody 
 understood this but i just wanted to make sure there was no confusion.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 The best way I've found to do this is to first hijack all the sources you 
 would like to use then, use this multi recording apple script I will be 
 providing a link for at the end of this message.  I've taken the script, 
 placed it in Mac HD/library/scripts so I could then assign the script with 
 a VO keyboard commander shortcut or, a trackpad commander shortcut if you 
 prefer.  So once my sources are hijacked, I press the command to trigger 
 the multi record script, and all sources I hijacked are being recorded and 
 they are synced.
 
 The down side is all hijacked sources are on individual files.  I then put 
 all the recordings into Garageband and export as a single file.  Of course, 
 you can use any multi track recorder of your choice to do this.
 
 I found myself having to jump through all these hoops because, later 
 versions of hijack pro with instan on didn't record my microphone while 
 system audio was being recorded. 
 
 multi record script plus the script to stop multi recordings.
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/Multi%20record%20scripts.zip
 
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 8, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi ALl,
 
 So i've managed to find a lot of different sources and uses for 
 audiohijack, and it's a great tool to have.
 
 However, i'm looking for a definite and efficient way to simultaneously 
 record different sources at once (for podcasting, skype while using system 
 sounds, etc etc.). The only half baked method i've found was to schedule a 
 recording at a certain time, say in 5 minutes, for two or more sources, 
 and wait until it starts. Not the best though there's no audio work to do 
 to synch each source's recording afterward.
 
 Any help greatly appreciated.
 
 Best 
 
 yYuma 
 
 
 
 zato1.jpg
 
 
 
 Light has no value without darkness
 Mob: +642102277190
 Skype: Shainobi1
 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
 
 This message is protected by article 4-210 of a certain book of laws but 
 you don't have to worry about privacy issues if you are the intended 
 recipient. However, if any freakish circumstance such as ip sniffing, 
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 error, please advise the sender and throw your laptop into a bubble bath 
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Re: 55.1 speakers w/ mac mini -- is there adapter available?

2013-01-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Also, once you get it hooked up, at least with my old mac mini, there were 
settings to change in Utilities  Audio Midi Setup for using the speakers more 
fully. I remember this from having used a 5.1 surround system with my old mini 
but it had a controller you plugged the speakers into and just one plug to be 
plugged into the computer so I can't say anything about adapters.

 
-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 9, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 The Mac mini audio output is a stereo mini jack like you use for most any 
 headphones. So you'll want something that goes from stereo mini to whatever 
 your speaker/amp inputs are. Not that the mini's audio output jack also 
 supports digital optical output so you could run it to a surround-sound 
 decoder to get the full 5.1 audio output from a DVD or the like.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/8/13 11:50 PM, Marc Rocheleau wrote:
 Hey listers,
 
 I set up my mac mini over the weekend and came upon a realization. While my P
 C had three speaker jacks to plug my speakers into, the mac mini only
 has one. As a result, I only have sound coming out of my right speaker
 at the moment. lol
 
 What I'm wondering is if there is some kind of adaptor available that
 would enable me to plug my speakers in properly? If so, could someone
 direct me as to where I should look? I am also in Canada so any links
 to Canadian sites people could provide would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 -Marc
 
 
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Re: question about downloading files

2013-01-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually, at least sometimes, there is a way. I'm sure there are different ways 
of doing this but here's what I did. I discovered this when I was having 
trouble getting files to download from Christianbook.com and nothing else, not 
even the context menu or option enter or assigning a key combination to right 
click, worked.

1. I went into System Preferences  trackpad. in the first tab, point and 
click, I checked secondary click and I chose  click in bottom right corner. 
You can also choose click in left bottom corner or click with two fingers.
Now when I'm having trouble downloading something, I first make sure my mouse 
is on the link I want to download; I do this by having my voiceover cursor on 
the link and then doing cmd-option-ctrl-f5 (with fn if necessary) to move the 
mouse to the link and then doing vo-f5 (with fn if necessary, depending on the 
function keys checkbox in Keyboard in System Preferences) to make sure the 
mouse really did move (sometimes it doesn't). Then  I  try pressing the bottom 
right corner of the trackpad. If successful, this brings up a context menu but 
it has more items usually than just the context menu you get with vo-shift-m 
would have. One of those items is save linked file as 
 This brings up the save dialog you are wanting.
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 One thing I've been wondering with this method is if there is any way
 to alter the name of the file to download before it is downloaded.  In
 other words, like in other browsers, you get a Save as dialog
 presented. I have never seen any way to do this on the Mac.  I have to
 rename the file after it is found in my Downloads folder.  I can work
 with it that way I guess, but it would be nice to be able to change
 the name before it comes down the pipe.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 On 1/9/13, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Alex.
 Thank you, it worked.
 
 On Jan 9, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try option-enter. If I recall correctly, this will force Safari to
 download the linked file instead of opening it.
 On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 Is  there a way to download audio files with safari?
 I have tried to move the mouse to the download link and clicking and
 right clicking to pull up a menu.
 I however, do not see any option that says save file as.
 Am i missing any steps?
 THanks.
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Re: question about downloading files

2013-01-09 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yeah, I learned in linux that the bigger your bag of tricks is, the better off 
you are :-)

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 9, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Cheryl for the detailed instructions.  I will have to keep
 this in mind and save this message for future reference in case I need
 to go that way.  Sometimes, web sites will use scripting to offer
 stuff for download and then you can't do any of this but to click on
 the provided button and the CGI script or whatever will start up a
 download.  Anyway, it's another trick to keep in the bag for whenever
 we need it.
 
 thanks again.
 
 On 1/9/13, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually, at least sometimes, there is a way. I'm sure there are different
 ways of doing this but here's what I did. I discovered this when I was
 having trouble getting files to download from Christianbook.com and nothing
 else, not even the context menu or option enter or assigning a key
 combination to right click, worked.
 
 1. I went into System Preferences  trackpad. in the first tab, point and
 click, I checked secondary click and I chose  click in bottom right
 corner. You can also choose click in left bottom corner or click with
 two fingers.
 Now when I'm having trouble downloading something, I first make sure my
 mouse is on the link I want to download; I do this by having my voiceover
 cursor on the link and then doing cmd-option-ctrl-f5 (with fn if necessary)
 to move the mouse to the link and then doing vo-f5 (with fn if necessary,
 depending on the function keys checkbox in Keyboard in System Preferences)
 to make sure the mouse really did move (sometimes it doesn't). Then  I  try
 pressing the bottom right corner of the trackpad. If successful, this brings
 up a context menu but it has more items usually than just the context menu
 you get with vo-shift-m would have. One of those items is save linked file
 as 
 This brings up the save dialog you are wanting.
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 9, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 One thing I've been wondering with this method is if there is any way
 to alter the name of the file to download before it is downloaded.  In
 other words, like in other browsers, you get a Save as dialog
 presented. I have never seen any way to do this on the Mac.  I have to
 rename the file after it is found in my Downloads folder.  I can work
 with it that way I guess, but it would be nice to be able to change
 the name before it comes down the pipe.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 On 1/9/13, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Alex.
 Thank you, it worked.
 
 On Jan 9, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Try option-enter. If I recall correctly, this will force Safari to
 download the linked file instead of opening it.
 On Jan 9, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com
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 Hi all.
 Is  there a way to download audio files with safari?
 I have tried to move the mouse to the download link and clicking and
 right clicking to pull up a menu.
 I however, do not see any option that says save file as.
 Am i missing any steps?
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Getting vo-keys on both sides of the keyboard: offshoot of: Mac Air Users Question

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
If you use keyremap4macbook, you can get modifiers on both sides of the 
keyboard. What I do is change return to be return when pressed by itself but 
control when placed in combination. So on the right side of the keyboard, I 
have command and option and by reaching just a little and adding return I have 
vo keys. I also happen to use the configuration that allows caps lock to be 
voiceover keys so I have two options on the left side. They are some other ways 
to set up the right side of your keyboard with keyremap4macbook so you could 
play around with it if you are interested and maybe find something that works 
for you. I also like having vo-keys on both sides so I used the larger old 
bluetooth Apple keyboard until it died and also still do have the usb keyboard 
with the full numeric keypad. I like having options.

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On Jan 9, 2013, at 10:34 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I use both an iMac and MacBook Air. I love them both.
 
 Sounds like I use my MacBook Air for exactly the same things you need. I have 
 the standard 13 with 4GB RAM and 128 GB SSD. In comparison my iMac has 16GB 
 of RAM and 1TB HD.
 
 This MacBook Air is perfect for my needs and it never seems slow and I don't 
 run out of space. I keep my huge media library on the iMac and just use 
 iTunes Match for my Air. I use Dropbox for all my other files.
 
 The MacBook Air is really fast to load and doesn't seem slow or powerless at 
 all for the tasks I use it for. In fact, it often seems faster than my iMac, 
 but this is probably just because my iMac is typically doing more things.
 
 The only downside of the MacBook Air for me is the smaller keyboard. I use 
 the Apple USD keyboard with my iMac as I like having VoiceOver keys on both 
 sides of the keyboard. The MacBook Air has the standard MacBook and Bluetooth 
 keyboard set up with control, option and command on the left of the space bar 
 and only command and option on the left. I've played around with a number of 
 configurations of this but nothing is as good as the USB keyboard with all 
 three modifier keys on each side.
 
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Re: Mac Air Users Question

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I've done the caps lock remap but I still like having vo-keys on the right side 
also and in this case it's possible for me to have my cake and eat it too!

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't recommend remapping your caps lock key highly enough. The only 
 disadvantage is that you can't use that key for the normal caps lock 
 functionality, but I rarely type in all caps anyway so don't miss it. After 
 doing the remap, I have never needed to touch the control and option keys on 
 the right side of my full-sized keyboard, so Macbook users should find this 
 extremely helpful.
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 5:11 AM, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Nicholas,
 
 I work also with a macbook air and I have the same problem. I think that 
 your problem is the case for most MacBooks. What you can do is:
 configure the trackpad that you can activate the functions of voiceover that 
 you should normally do with the right voiceover keys. Since you can more 
 easily activate the trackpad with both hands, this could be perhaps a 
 solution.
 
 If you need assistance how to assign functions to you trackpad , mail me or 
 the list.
 
 Otherwise, you can buy a external keyboard but your configuration isn't that 
 portable anymore.
 Good luck,
 
 William Windels
 Op 10-jan.-2013, om 05:34 heeft Nicholas Parsons 
 mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi,
 
 I use both an iMac and MacBook Air. I love them both.
 
 Sounds like I use my MacBook Air for exactly the same things you need. I 
 have the standard 13 with 4GB RAM and 128 GB SSD. In comparison my iMac 
 has 16GB of RAM and 1TB HD.
 
 This MacBook Air is perfect for my needs and it never seems slow and I 
 don't run out of space. I keep my huge media library on the iMac and just 
 use iTunes Match for my Air. I use Dropbox for all my other files.
 
 The MacBook Air is really fast to load and doesn't seem slow or powerless 
 at all for the tasks I use it for. In fact, it often seems faster than my 
 iMac, but this is probably just because my iMac is typically doing more 
 things.
 
 The only downside of the MacBook Air for me is the smaller keyboard. I use 
 the Apple USD keyboard with my iMac as I like having VoiceOver keys on both 
 sides of the keyboard. The MacBook Air has the standard MacBook and 
 Bluetooth keyboard set up with control, option and command on the left of 
 the space bar and only command and option on the left. I've played around 
 with a number of configurations of this but nothing is as good as the USB 
 keyboard with all three modifier keys on each side.
 
 Best,
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Re: Hiding the Preview Pane in Mail

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Here's a post of Tim Kilburn's on this subject; it helped me when nothing else 
completely did.
Try the following. 

1.  Removing the Preview Pane in Classic layout: 

• Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter that is to the right of the Messages 
table. 
• Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if needed).  This will bring the mouse to the VO 
cursor and announce where the mouse is and it should read Horizontal 
Splitter. 
• Double-click on your Trackpad or alternatively, you can press near the top of 
the Trackpad and drag to the bottom.  Make sure in this case that you actually 
make the Trackpad button depress so that the drag action will work. 

2.  Removing the Preview Pane for non-Classic layout: 

• Navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column 
Group. 
• Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if necessary) to bring the mouse to the VO cursor.  
It will announce Vertical Splitter if it did what it was supposed to do. 
• Double-click on the Trackpad or alternatively, put your finger near the left 
hand side of the Trackpad, then drag to the far right and release.  As in the 
first case, make sure that you depress the Trackpad button so that the dragging 
process will occur. 

Note that in the Classic layout, you are dealing with a Horizontal Splitter and 
in the non-Classic layout, you are dealing with a Vertical Splitter. Each case 
requires a different dragging direction if you choose that option. 

There are a couple of ways of determining if it worked.  Firstly, you can 
navigate around the Mail screen and if you don't hear anything about Message 
Content Area, life is good. 

The second method is a little more complicated but tells you for sure.  In 
Classic layout, navigate to the Horizontal Splitter to the right of the New 
Mailbox Action menu.  You'll notice two Horizontal splitters, one after the 
Messages Table and this one that I'm talking about.  Once you've located this 
Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it and press VO-down.  Vo will announce 
Collapsed which is what you want to hear.  In non-Classic layout, navigate to 
the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column Group and 
Interact with it.  Press VO-right and VO will announce Collapsed if the 
Preview pane is gone.

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On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Try just double clicking the splitter. Move to it, route your mouse cursor to 
 it with vo-cmd-f5, then hit vo-shift-space twice quickly. If you are not on 
 Mountain Lion, you may have more trouble with this.
 On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 
 I've read that one can hide the preview pane in the three column view in 
 Mail. This way, messages won't be marked as read unless you open them in a 
 separate window. Currently I find it a little annoying that messages are 
 marked as read when I've only read their subject line and not the full 
 message.
 
 However, I've been unable to work out how to do this with VoiceOver. 
 Apparently one need only drag the vertical splitter between the message list 
 and the preview pane all the way to the right. However, when I try 
 interacting with this vertical splitter and VO-right arrowing all the way to 
 the right until VoiceOver reads 100%, the preview pane is still visible to 
 VoiceOver and messages still marked as read when I focus on them in the 
 message list even when I haven't actually read them.
 
 Has anyone else had any success with this?
 
 Cheers
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Re: question about downloading files

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh yeah, that is so true! And then I put them in files on my computer and can't 
remember what files I put them in! But i know they are there somewhere!


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On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 Problem is that some of the tricks in my bag are so old I've forgotten where 
 I put them.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/9/13 5:26 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 Yeah, I learned in linux that the bigger your bag of tricks is, the better 
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Re: Hiding the Preview Pane in Mail

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
First of all, these aren't my suggestions; as I explained they are a previous 
post by Tim Kilburn.

Secondly, different things work better for different people, depending on your 
experience and what your computer is doing. The reason for the comments about 
using fn if necessary is that you can have f1 f2, f3, etc. set to be used as 
standard function keys in System Preferences  Keyboard and your setting 
determines whether or not the fn key is also needed. as for the trackpad 
stuff, some people choose to use the trackpad more than others but it's a good 
idea at least to become familiar with trackpad and mouse terminology to some 
extent because there may be times when that's the only way you can accomplish 
the task even if that method isn't usually your preference. This terminology 
isn't actually unprecise. But certainly each of us finds that one way of 
performing a task is easier than anothr and this preference varies from person 
to person. It's good to have more than one way of doing things.

 
 
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On Jan 10, 2013, at 1:16 PM, John Sanfilippo vze33...@verizon.net wrote:

 I find your second explanation seems much simpler and clearer than all the 
 trackpad stuff you mentioned. The key commands seem simpler and more precise.
  
 js
  
  
 - Original Message -
 From: Cheryl Homiak
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:29 AM
 Subject: Re: Hiding the Preview Pane in Mail
 
 Here's a post of Tim Kilburn's on this subject; it helped me when nothing 
 else completely did.
 Try the following. 
 
 1.  Removing the Preview Pane in Classic layout: 
 
 • Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter that is to the right of the Messages 
 table. 
 • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if needed).  This will bring the mouse to the VO 
 cursor and announce where the mouse is and it should read Horizontal 
 Splitter. 
 • Double-click on your Trackpad or alternatively, you can press near the top 
 of the Trackpad and drag to the bottom.  Make sure in this case that you 
 actually make the Trackpad button depress so that the drag action will work. 
 
 2.  Removing the Preview Pane for non-Classic layout: 
 
 • Navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column 
 Group. 
 • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if necessary) to bring the mouse to the VO cursor.  
 It will announce Vertical Splitter if it did what it was supposed to do. 
 • Double-click on the Trackpad or alternatively, put your finger near the 
 left hand side of the Trackpad, then drag to the far right and release.  As 
 in the first case, make sure that you depress the Trackpad button so that the 
 dragging process will occur. 
 
 Note that in the Classic layout, you are dealing with a Horizontal Splitter 
 and in the non-Classic layout, you are dealing with a Vertical Splitter. Each 
 case requires a different dragging direction if you choose that option. 
 
 There are a couple of ways of determining if it worked.  Firstly, you can 
 navigate around the Mail screen and if you don't hear anything about Message 
 Content Area, life is good. 
 
 The second method is a little more complicated but tells you for sure.  In 
 Classic layout, navigate to the Horizontal Splitter to the right of the New 
 Mailbox Action menu.  You'll notice two Horizontal splitters, one after the 
 Messages Table and this one that I'm talking about.  Once you've located this 
 Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it and press VO-down.  Vo will announce 
 Collapsed which is what you want to hear.  In non-Classic layout, navigate 
 to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages Column Group and 
 Interact with it.  Press VO-right and VO will announce Collapsed if the 
 Preview pane is gone.
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Try just double clicking the splitter. Move to it, route your mouse cursor 
  to it with vo-cmd-f5, then hit vo-shift-space twice quickly. If you are not 
  on Mountain Lion, you may have more trouble with this.
  On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
  mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  Hi list,
  
  I've read that one can hide the preview pane in the three column view in 
  Mail. This way, messages won't be marked as read unless you open them in a 
  separate window. Currently I find it a little annoying that messages are 
  marked as read when I've only read their subject line and not the full 
  message.
  
  However, I've been unable to work out how to do this with VoiceOver. 
  Apparently one need only drag the vertical splitter between the message 
  list and the preview pane all the way to the right. However, when I try 
  interacting with this vertical splitter

Re: Hiding the Preview Pane in Mail

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I still tend to use mouse-keys a lot but for some things that doesn't work.

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Thanks, guys! You guys are brilliant!
 
 I followed Tim's instructions as reposted by Cheryl and they worked exactly 
 as stated. So simple and easy, I guess I should've thought of it myself. I'm 
 just so not used to being able to use the mouse/trackpad so accessibly as I 
 haven't quite been on the Mac for a year yet. However, where possible I do 
 like to use the trackpad as a mouse as this tends to get more reliable 
 results. I guess it's how Apple intended most users to perform various 
 actions. I tend to use it a lot with Mail. Still, didn't think to use it in 
 this case until suggested.
 
 I'm now a very happy camper!
 
 Thanks again, Alex, Cheryl and Tim!
 
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Re: Mac Air Users Question

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh good idea! I should use keyboard commander more than I do! Will do some 
experimenting with that. There are just so many tools that one has to be 
reminded of them sometimes.

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 HI.
 
 Thanks for those suggestions. I might try and add William and Cheryl's tips 
 to my bag of tricks. I tried capslock as VO keys but this didn't help me at 
 all. I already have perfectly good VO keys on the left of the MacBook 
 keyboard. I don't need extra VO keys on the left, I just need VO keys on the 
 right. Thus I prefer capslock to remain capslock. Cheryl's suggestion of 
 making return function as control when pressed in conjunction sounds like 
 it's worth trying.
 
 The other thing I use is the keyboard commander. I assign functions that 
 usually require VO keys on the right, such as move to dock, and move to 
 desktop, to the keyboard commander so I can perform them just using the right 
 option key. I also already use the track pad a bit, but I'm not sure of track 
 pad commands for things like VO-F3, VO-F5, VO-COMMAND-F5 etc. Maybe I can 
 assign some more of these to the keyboard commander.
 
 In any case, I don't use my MacBook heavily enough for it to bother me. I 
 mostly use my iMac with USB keyboard so I'm a happy camper, and all round 
 very satisfied with my MacBook Air. It's a brilliant portable little 
 computer. The battery life amazes me.
 
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Re: Dropbox acting up again.

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually I think that is not correct. I ran dropbox in Lion; the install was 
not as accessible then but I was able to access my Dropbox folder just fine 
once it was installed. I apologize if this has changed and I just didn't know 
it.

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote:

 What's your current OS?  I ask because if you are running Lion and have an 
 oder version of Drop Box, you aint gonna have no luck.  You need to make sure 
 you are running 10.8-ML-and have the latest Drop box:  The latest is Version 
 1.6.10.
 
 HTH.
 
 Oh, forgot to mention, access Drop box via the menu bar by pressing 
 control+F8  and VO=left or right through the menu bar and VO+space to go in 
 to a menu.  When in the Drop Box menu frim there, press VO+space on Drop Box 
 preferences and you can access and adjust everything from there.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I managed to get dropbox up and running, only for it to start right back 
 up again with the same behavior.  It worked perfectly when I first installed 
 and ran it, but considering the fact that I wasn't going to be running it or 
 my computer forever, I was going to have to close it eventually.
 Then when I relaunched it last night, and it went right back to telling me 
 dropbox has no windows, and I couldn't figure out what to do with it, and 
 reinstalling it after trashing it does nothing.
 Then on top of that, it refuses to redownload so maybe I can just simply 
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Re: Dropbox acting up again.

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Once it's installed, you mainly need to access your Dropbox folder and that's 
accessible right in your home directory in finder.
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On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm currently running Lion, and downloaded the latest yesterday, which worked 
 perfectly the first time around, so have no idea why this is happening again.
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
 What's your current OS?  I ask because if you are running Lion and have an 
 oder version of Drop Box, you aint gonna have no luck.  You need to make 
 sure you are running 10.8-ML-and have the latest Drop box:  The latest is 
 Version 1.6.10.
 
 HTH.
 
 Oh, forgot to mention, access Drop box via the menu bar by pressing 
 control+F8  and VO=left or right through the menu bar and VO+space to go in 
 to a menu.  When in the Drop Box menu frim there, press VO+space on Drop Box 
 preferences and you can access and adjust everything from there.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I managed to get dropbox up and running, only for it to start right 
 back up again with the same behavior.  It worked perfectly when I first 
 installed and ran it, but considering the fact that I wasn't going to be 
 running it or my computer forever, I was going to have to close it 
 eventually.
 Then when I relaunched it last night, and it went right back to telling me 
 dropbox has no windows, and I couldn't figure out what to do with it, and 
 reinstalling it after trashing it does nothing.
 Then on top of that, it refuses to redownload so maybe I can just simply 
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Re: Dropbox acting up again.

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
No, it won't show up in the menus unless you have Mountain Lion but you can 
still access your folder; at least I could.

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 IT WON'T SHOW UP UNLESS YOU HAVE MOUNTAIN LION.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2013-01-10, at 8:21 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As for accessing it through the menu bar, I tried that, and it didn't even 
 show up, so have no idea what to make of that either.
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
 
 Hello.
 Dropbox is always going to say, has no windows. The only way to access the 
 dropbox menu is, naturally, through the menu bar.
 HTH.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2013-01-10, at 8:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I managed to get dropbox up and running, only for it to start right 
 back up again with the same behavior.  It worked perfectly when I first 
 installed and ran it, but considering the fact that I wasn't going to be 
 running it or my computer forever, I was going to have to close it 
 eventually.
 Then when I relaunched it last night, and it went right back to telling me 
 dropbox has no windows, and I couldn't figure out what to do with it, 
 and reinstalling it after trashing it does nothing.
 Then on top of that, it refuses to redownload so maybe I can just simply 
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Re: Dropbox acting up again.

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, this is what i did in Lion.

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now one thing you could try at least from what i remember when i had lion is 
 do everything from the context menu.
 Go to the home directory and dropbox, find the folder or file you want to 
 share, and press vo+shift+m to go to the context menu.
 Then look and see if there is a dropbox menu to share.
 
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 IT WON'T SHOW UP UNLESS YOU HAVE MOUNTAIN LION.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2013-01-10, at 8:21 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As for accessing it through the menu bar, I tried that, and it didn't even 
 show up, so have no idea what to make of that either.
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
 
 Hello.
 Dropbox is always going to say, has no windows. The only way to access the 
 dropbox menu is, naturally, through the menu bar.
 HTH.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2013-01-10, at 8:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I managed to get dropbox up and running, only for it to start right 
 back up again with the same behavior.  It worked perfectly when I first 
 installed and ran it, but considering the fact that I wasn't going to be 
 running it or my computer forever, I was going to have to close it 
 eventually.
 Then when I relaunched it last night, and it went right back to telling 
 me dropbox has no windows, and I couldn't figure out what to do with 
 it, and reinstalling it after trashing it does nothing.
 Then on top of that, it refuses to redownload so maybe I can just simply 
 make a fresh start, and this is driving me nuts.  Anyone got any advice?
 
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Re: bad accessibility these days

2013-01-10 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh no, I really wanted to do my income tax myself this year and not have to 
take it to our VITA site. There was a supervising change there last year and 
they would have messed things up if I hadn't been very vigilant. I always work 
everything out by hand anyway before I even go to the VITA site. Either I'll 
have to find something accessible, go to the site again, or do it on the 
computer with my sighted reader there to do the inaccessible parts. This is 
really terribly disappointing!

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 This news about TaxAct is very disconcerting. I used it last tax year with 
 Firefox on my Linux box and it worked pretty well.  If a11y has gotten this 
 bad, I may have to move my records elsewhere.
 
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi again guys. 
 I made the change to navigate by images in the Vo utility. Unfortunately, 
 that resulted in Safari kicking out of the web site three times. Anybothy 
 got any other ideas? 
 
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Re: Mac Air Users Question

2013-01-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, actually, mail and safari already have keys assigned so those don't need 
to be set up. But yes, I had kind of been ignoring keyboard commander and now 
am using it more. For instance, I have option-r set up to interact and option-w 
to stop interacting (I thought the backwards braille symbols would help me 
remember what I had set). And I think I'll do the cursor tracking and mouse 
moving ones that take several keys at once otherwise.

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On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 I make use of keyboard commanders and would suggest to anyone using
 voiceover to set commanders to launch all of their favorite programs.
 I have set commanders for mail, safari, newsrack, night owl, sorry
 can't spell the real name of it, RS Games, and so on. I have all set
 activities for the different programs for a couple with different
 voices and turning quickNav off when needed. REally been learning a
 lot of customization to make using voiceover even more effective.
 Ordered the macair and can't wait for it to get here. Thanks again for
 all the advice and suggestions.
 
 On Jan 9, 8:49 am, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 I have been a long time Imac user and need to get a laptop for travel.
 I love voiceover on the Imac most of the time, and wanted to see if
 anyone had experience using voiceover both on an Imac and mac air, and
 if there was any notable difference or anything I need to be aware of?
 I looked at it in the Apple store, but you can't really hear anything
 in there. I don't need any kind of power computing, just be using the
 Mac Air 13 for browsing, email, news rack, twitter, itunes match,
 cloud computing, pages and numbers mostly so not having a big hard
 drive shouldn't be a problem. Thinking about bumping up the RAM to 8GB
 instead of the 4 it comes with, and will probably get a thumb drive
 for anything big I might need. I am not interested in the Ipad as I
 hate typing on it, and do like a full keyboard and the option
 voiceover on the Imac gives me. Thanks
 
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Re: Mac Air Users Question

2013-01-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, this is a case of to each his/her own. Usb thumb drives are larger than 
sd cards and usually stick out some. Also, if you have limited usb ports and 
make regular use of other usb devices, the sd card slot is more valuable to 
you. It is obvious from my wording that I am one of those who would want the sd 
slot. But you just have to assess your own needs and preferences.

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On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 why would you want an SD card if you can use a thumb drive?  I don't even own 
 any SD cards any more.  Any extra file storage I need just goes on a USB 
 drive.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The one thing to remember is that the 11-inch model has no SD card slot, 
 whereas the 13-inch model does. Coupled with a Nifty Mini drive and a micro 
 SD card, you can then add up to 64gb of extra storage to the 13-inch; the 
 11-inch, lacking the SD slot, cannot do this. Yes there are USB card 
 readers, but that takes up one of the two ports on the machine.
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:44 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I don't know why people would be concerned about the Mac Book Air, after 
 all, it's as small as a net book. If I were to buy a portible lap top, it 
 would be the 11 inch MacBook Air.  At the moment I'm very happy with what I 
 have.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 11 Jan 2013, at 10:12 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'm not sure why folk keep talking about smaller keys on the Air, The iMac 
 blue tooth keyboard and the 11in and 13in Air have identical sized keys.
 
 The only caveat is the Function row of keys, which on an 11in Air are 
 slightly reduced in height.
 
 otherwise, the actual keys, numeric and alpha are all the identical size.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Neil Barnfather
 
 Talks List Administrator
 Twitter @neilbarnfather
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
 iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
 accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
 
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 On 9 Jan 2013, at 14:01, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The air acts exactly like any other Mac. The only difference is the 
 presence of the trackpad and what might be smaller keys, depending on 
 what keyboard you are used to. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 9, 2013, at 8:49, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 I have been a long time Imac user and need to get a laptop for travel.
 I love voiceover on the Imac most of the time, and wanted to see if
 anyone had experience using voiceover both on an Imac and mac air, and
 if there was any notable difference or anything I need to be aware of?
 I looked at it in the Apple store, but you can't really hear anything
 in there. I don't need any kind of power computing, just be using the
 Mac Air 13 for browsing, email, news rack, twitter, itunes match,
 cloud computing, pages and numbers mostly so not having a big hard
 drive shouldn't be a problem. Thinking about bumping up the RAM to 8GB
 instead of the 4 it comes with, and will probably get a thumb drive
 for anything big I might need. I am not interested in the Ipad as I
 hate typing on it, and do like a full keyboard and the option
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Re: Dropbox acting up again.

2013-01-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
She doesn't have an entry in the extras menu because she is running Lion, not 
Mountain Lion, and that is part of what is causing confusion. And I'm sure what 
she means by accessing is all those things you list as being available 
through the extras menus. Also, at least on my machine, vo-return (this doesn't 
technically have an enter) doesn't get into the dropbox menu but vo-space does.

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On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean by accessing it? and, why would you close it?
 
 Dropbox is not an app in the normal sense of that word. It is just a special 
 folder on your hard drive, you don't need to shut it down when not in use, 
 you just set it and forget it. To use dropbox you place files in the dropbox 
 folder and the dropbox software saves a copy to the cloud and syncs that copy 
 across all your dropbox enabled devices.
 
 As far as accessing dropbox goes, The dropbox entry in the extras menu is 
 activated by pressing VO enter. Then you have several choices:
 1)  you can open the dropbox folder where you can browse around your dropbox 
 and delete and rename stuff if you like.
 2) you can launch the dropbox website in safari and look at your stuff as it 
 is stored in the cloud - it'll be an exact duplicate of the dropbox folder on 
 your Mac.
 3) you can look through a submenu of recently changed files, usually a half 
 dozen of the last files addedd or deleted from your dropbox folder.
 4) You can see how much of your dropbox storage is currently being used.
 5) You can Pause/resume any syncing that's currently going on.
 6) You can set your dropbox preferences.
 7) and finally, you can read through the dropbox help files. I would highly 
 recommend doing so. It will probably answer alot of your questions and clear 
 up your general confusion about dropbox and its function and operation.
 I sincerely hope this helps in some way - God knows life is confusing and 
 frustrating enough without adding to the mess with computer anxiety.
 .
 
 -- Original Message - From: Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:21 PM
 Subject: Re: Dropbox acting up again.
 
 
 As for accessing it through the menu bar, I tried that, and it didn't even 
 show up, so have no idea what to make of that either.
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
 
 Hello.
 Dropbox is always going to say, has no windows. The only way to access the 
 dropbox menu is, naturally, through the menu bar.
 HTH.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2013-01-10, at 8:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I managed to get dropbox up and running, only for it to start right 
 back up again with the same behavior.  It worked perfectly when I first 
 installed and ran it, but considering the fact that I wasn't going to be 
 running it or my computer forever, I was going to have to close it 
 eventually.
 Then when I relaunched it last night, and it went right back to telling me 
 dropbox has no windows, and I couldn't figure out what to do with it, and 
 reinstalling it after trashing it does nothing.
 Then on top of that, it refuses to redownload so maybe I can just simply 
 make a fresh start, and this is driving me nuts.  Anyone got any advice?
 
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Re: Dropbox acting up again.

2013-01-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The only time I've had it tell me it had no windows when I rebooted was when I 
didn't have an Internet connection but I'm sure there could be other reasons.

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On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 The only reason I was wanting to shut it down was because it was constantly 
 telling me that it had no windows and wouldn't display the Dropbox menu, so 
 was trying to reinstall to see if that would help.
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What do you mean by accessing it? and, why would you close it?
 
 Dropbox is not an app in the normal sense of that word. It is just a special 
 folder on your hard drive, you don't need to shut it down when not in use, 
 you just set it and forget it. To use dropbox you place files in the dropbox 
 folder and the dropbox software saves a copy to the cloud and syncs that 
 copy across all your dropbox enabled devices.
 
 As far as accessing dropbox goes, The dropbox entry in the extras menu is 
 activated by pressing VO enter. Then you have several choices:
 1)  you can open the dropbox folder where you can browse around your dropbox 
 and delete and rename stuff if you like.
 2) you can launch the dropbox website in safari and look at your stuff as it 
 is stored in the cloud - it'll be an exact duplicate of the dropbox folder 
 on your Mac.
 3) you can look through a submenu of recently changed files, usually a half 
 dozen of the last files addedd or deleted from your dropbox folder.
 4) You can see how much of your dropbox storage is currently being used.
 5) You can Pause/resume any syncing that's currently going on.
 6) You can set your dropbox preferences.
 7) and finally, you can read through the dropbox help files. I would highly 
 recommend doing so. It will probably answer alot of your questions and clear 
 up your general confusion about dropbox and its function and operation.
 I sincerely hope this helps in some way - God knows life is confusing and 
 frustrating enough without adding to the mess with computer anxiety.
 .
 
 -- Original Message - From: Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:21 PM
 Subject: Re: Dropbox acting up again.
 
 
 As for accessing it through the menu bar, I tried that, and it didn't even 
 show up, so have no idea what to make of that either.
 On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
 
 Hello.
 Dropbox is always going to say, has no windows. The only way to access the 
 dropbox menu is, naturally, through the menu bar.
 HTH.
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2013-01-10, at 8:04 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I managed to get dropbox up and running, only for it to start right 
 back up again with the same behavior.  It worked perfectly when I first 
 installed and ran it, but considering the fact that I wasn't going to be 
 running it or my computer forever, I was going to have to close it 
 eventually.
 Then when I relaunched it last night, and it went right back to telling me 
 dropbox has no windows, and I couldn't figure out what to do with it, 
 and reinstalling it after trashing it does nothing.
 Then on top of that, it refuses to redownload so maybe I can just simply 
 make a fresh start, and this is driving me nuts.  Anyone got any advice?
 
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Re: Mac Air Users Question

2013-01-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Oh yes, if i were going to buy an Air I would get the dongle. Sometimes you can 
get slow wifi connections and then having the ethernet cable really would help.

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On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Neal,
 
 Yeah, I've thought about buying one of those.  It's funny.  Really, the issue 
 comes up very rarely, but when it does come up, it's usually a real pain not 
 to have it.  Every time I have a situation where it would really be handy to 
 have a hard connection, I swear I'm boing to buy the dongle, but then I 
 forget about it when the need is no longer there. :)
 Take care,
 Donna  
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com 
 wrote:
 
 Donna,
 
 I sometimes too find that irritating, but, I have the Apple USB to ether net 
 dongle, its compact and tidy when folded back on itself, just like 
 everything Apple does, well thought out.
 
 I keep that in my laptop case, if I need ether net, its there.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Neil Barnfather
 
 Talks List Administrator
 Twitter @neilbarnfather
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
 iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
 accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
 
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 Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
 
 On 11 Jan 2013, at 15:17, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 I don't know.  I wouldn't let that be a deciding factor.  I've got an 
 11-inch, and absolutely love it's small size.  I did max out all the specs 
 when I got it, but I don't find I'm lacking for memory.  If there was 
 anything that would make me change from the 11-inch MBA, it'd be to go back 
 to an MBP, and the only reason I would do that would be for the built-in 
 ethernet.  Honestly, that's the only thing I've missed.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry, I didn't explain. The Nifty Mini Drive is a new product for $40, on 
 sale at the end of this month I believe. Normally, an sd card sticks out 
 of your mac a bit, making it impractical to leave one in there long-term. 
 However, this product is a mini sd card adapter which sits flush with the 
 mac's body, making it able to be left inserted all the time with no fear 
 of damage to the card and/or sd slot. So, if you got the 64gb Air, you can 
 double your storage and just use the sd card for media. It's there all the 
 time and is flash-based, but you don't need to spring for the much more 
 expensive 128gb Ari, just get the adapter and as many cards as you want. 
 To relate this to the topic at hand, my point was that the 13-inch Air can 
 be expanded in this way, while the 11-inch, lacking an sd slot, cannot.
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 why would you want an SD card if you can use a thumb drive?  I don't even 
 own any SD cards any more.  Any extra file storage I need just goes on a 
 USB drive.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The one thing to remember is that the 11-inch model has no SD card slot, 
 whereas the 13-inch model does. Coupled with a Nifty Mini drive and a 
 micro SD card, you can then add up to 64gb of extra storage to the 
 13-inch; the 11-inch, lacking the SD slot, cannot do this. Yes there are 
 USB card readers, but that takes up one of the two ports on the machine.
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:44 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:
 
 I don't know why people would be concerned about the Mac Book Air, 
 after all, it's as small as a net book. If I were to buy a portible lap 
 top, it would be the 11 inch MacBook Air.  At the moment I'm very happy 
 with what I have.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 11 Jan 2013, at 10:12 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
 for...@talknav.com wrote:
 
 I'm not sure why folk keep talking about smaller keys on the Air, The 
 iMac blue tooth keyboard and the 11in and 13in Air have identical 
 sized keys.
 
 The only caveat is the Function row of keys, which on an 11in Air are 
 slightly reduced in height.
 
 otherwise, the actual keys, numeric and alpha are all the identical 
 size.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Neil Barnfather
 
 Talks List Administrator
 Twitter @neilbarnfather
 
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 accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
 
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 e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
 Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
 
 On 9 Jan 2013, at 14:01, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The air acts exactly like any other Mac. The only difference is the 
 presence of the trackpad and what might be smaller keys, depending on 
 what keyboard you are used to. 
 
 Sent from my 

Re: acapella voices.

2013-01-12 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually this isn't correct. It's 4 credits for two computers and I don't think 
there's any way to just use 2 credits and buy for one computer. In addition to 
this, some voices are 6 credits for two computers and I think some or all of 
the Swedish and Norwegian voices are 14 credits for 2 computers. You can 
install them as demos if you want. Then you go into the store and buy credits 
when you are ready to buy. Then you go into the voice manager in your 
Applications folder and activate. Or you can buy first and then install and 
install if you are already sure what you want. Installing and activating an 
having your credits left kept track of all goes through the infovox ivox voice 
manager.


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On Jan 12, 2013, at 6:47 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:

 Hi, One credit = one voice on one computer.
 Each voice you buy comes with two credits.  That means you can install each 
 voice on two different computers.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-01-12, at 12:27 AM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 Call me silly or stupid bt i don't quite understand who the activation works 
 with the voices from assistivewhare, the acapella voices.
 Can somebody explain how the credits work? I only have one mac, i don't get 
 the 4 credits per voice.
 Thanks.
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Has MacTubes been killed?

2013-01-12 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hi all.

I went to use MacTubes and got a very unpleasant surprise! The only player 
setting that still works for me is flash player which is no big deal. But I can 
also no longer download. I get unable to start download. Is this the end of 
downloading with MacTubes or am I doing something wrong or is there something 
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Re: Has MacTubes been killed?

2013-01-12 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Forgot that one isn't going to update automatically!

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On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:

 You might want to upgrade to the latest version.
 
 Matt
 Sent from my mac
 Twitter: matt692
 
 On 2013-01-12, at 8:43 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 I went to use MacTubes and got a very unpleasant surprise! The only player 
 setting that still works for me is flash player which is no big deal. But I 
 can also no longer download. I get unable to start download. Is this the 
 end of downloading with MacTubes or am I doing something wrong or is there 
 something wrong with my installation of MacTubes?
 
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Re: acapella voices.

2013-01-12 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, there is deactivate in the action menu in the voice manager for voices 
I presently have activated. So I hadn't really thought of it but this might be 
possible. If you don't see the answer on the website, try emailing 
supp...@assistiveware.com. You can ask them whether or not you can buy for just 
one computer; I think I'm right about that but it doesn't hurt to ask.

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On Jan 12, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks.
 So if i understand this, it's about 20 dollars a voice?
 Can I deactivate and move the credits around?
 Thanks.
 
 On Jan 12, 2013, at 5:49 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually this isn't correct. It's 4 credits for two computers and I don't 
 think there's any way to just use 2 credits and buy for one computer. In 
 addition to this, some voices are 6 credits for two computers and I think 
 some or all of the Swedish and Norwegian voices are 14 credits for 2 
 computers. You can install them as demos if you want. Then you go into the 
 store and buy credits when you are ready to buy. Then you go into the voice 
 manager in your Applications folder and activate. Or you can buy first and 
 then install and install if you are already sure what you want. Installing 
 and activating an having your credits left kept track of all goes through 
 the infovox ivox voice manager.
 
 
 -- 
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 be acceptable to You, Lord,
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 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 12, 2013, at 6:47 AM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote:
 
 Hi, One credit = one voice on one computer.
 Each voice you buy comes with two credits.  That means you can install each 
 voice on two different computers.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-01-12, at 12:27 AM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 Call me silly or stupid bt i don't quite understand who the activation 
 works with the voices from assistivewhare, the acapella voices.
 Can somebody explain how the credits work? I only have one mac, i don't 
 get the 4 credits per voice.
 Thanks.
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Re: Installing Skype

2013-01-12 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You copy the app file into your Applications folder.
cmd-c the app file; cmd-v in Applications.

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On Jan 12, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hello all, yesterday I downloaded Skype. I have a DMG file that I placed in 
 my Apps folder. When I open that file I then see an APP file. How to I get 
 that APP file out of the DMg in to the APP folder? This then will make the 
 running of the Skype program a one step process instead of opening the DMG 
 then Opening the Skype.APP file.
 Hope this is clear.
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Re: Running slow with Mountain Lion

2013-01-14 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Did you repair permissions after installing Mountain Lion? Also, since you say 
you are using space instead of vo-space, did you check to make sure you don't 
have vo-keys locked with control-option-semi-colon (I know it's not likely; 
just covering the bases). Did you make sure your computer is one that meets the 
system requirements for upgrading to Lion (though it probably would have told 
you when you tried to install). Have you checked your settings in voiceover 
utility to make sure nothing is different than you had it before?


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On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com wrote:

 Hi. A clean install seems to be the ticket for many users.
 
 Also, four gigs of ram would certainly help with performance as would an 
 ssd...
 
 Cameron.
 
 
 
 
 On 1/14/13, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 This sounds a little weird.
 I'd try a clean install and see if that fixes anything.
 Good luck.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Allison Manzino gwennac...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just upgrading to Mountain Lion. VoiceOver is very sluggish even after
 updating the sofware, and my cursor tracking is not correct. I have to hit
 space instead of VO space to open apps like Safari, Mail and Skype. Does
 anyone have any idea what is going on? I installed over Lion, didn't do a
 clean install. My Macbook has 2GB of ram, a 250 GB hard drive with 53 gigs
 left and a 2.4GHZ Intel Core Duo processor. If anyone has any ideas,
 please let me know. Do I need to upgrade the ram?
 
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Re: VLC. Was : Accessible flac player and ID3 tag editor

2013-01-14 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually, vlc does some converting but I've never completely figured it out.
I've used switch to do some converting and it can convert whole directories, 
etc. I think I got it online rather than on the mac store but not sure. If I 
have some time I'll go look for the info.

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On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:

 VLC as far as I know is only a media player, not converter. It certainly 
 plays .ogg files. I use Amadeus pro for most conversions but that's an 
 expensive tool for just doing that.
 I just installed a cheep app the other day called 
 RightClickMp3
 I can't remember how much it was but it wasn't much. You can find it in the 
 mac app store here
 https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/rightclickmp3/id403565633?mt=12
 
 It puts an option in your shortcut/context menu vo shift m or in the case of 
 at least MountainLion, in the services sub menu. Highlight the audio files 
 you want converted, go and select it as mentioned above and off it goes.
 
 When you first install the app, command O open it from the apps folder and 
 you can select bit rate etc. It's a very simple tool for a quick solution. No 
 bells and whistles, it just does what it says.
 
 I just converted an ogg file to make sure ogg was supported and in a few 
 seconds I had a 30 meg mp3 that played perfectly.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Danny:
 
 
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 hello;  do you know if vlc converts ogg to mp3? i used to use max because it 
 was free but the most current version or at least the one for lion doesn't 
 allow for ogg any more. thanks, max 
 On Jan 14, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
 
 Just to add to this, I love vlc. It's set up as my default  media player 
 for most media formats so I can keep my iTunes library clean as theirs now 
 no way to play items in iTunes and not add them to your library. Also, you 
 can easily set output device and it works with the apple remote. 
 
 
 
 Sent from my phone
 
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 Vlc will play them.
 On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Marc Rocheleau marcrochel...@gmail.com 
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 Hey all,
 
 Can someone suggest an accessible media player that plays flac files?
 I have a bunch transferred over from my PC and nothing to play them
 with. Also, on the subject of media files, can someone recommend a
 good app to edit ID3 tags?
 
 Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!
 
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Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address bar in Safari

2013-01-14 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Okay, this is going to sound weird. If I start toggling in a window from 
toolbar to html it won't work. But if I start from in the html I can toggle 
back and forth, back and forth, probably for ever but I don't plan to spend 
that long doing it!

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On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 control F5 isn't working for me in safari. I've known about this command, and 
 used alot in other apps, but it only seems to work when there is a back 
 button in the toolbar. In safari, there is a back/forward group, and control 
 F5 ain't doing nothin'
 
 - Original Message - From: Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 8:34 PM
 Subject: Re: Jumping to html area from tool bar, was Re: getting to address 
 bar in Safari
 
 
 And it's a toggle command I found to my joy. I keep finding great mac 
 commands that work better or more easily than VO commands lately. This, the 
 apple and extra menu  commands etc are making my life so much easier.
 
 Many thanks.
 
 Danny:
 
 On 15/01/2013, at 10:50 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there!
 Also there is the Mac command Control+f5 that will take you straight to the 
 tool bar!
 Standard Mac command!
 hth Colin
 
 On 14 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 Brain fart. I use command l and know that the search field is in the tool 
 bar but for what ever reason, the 2 disparate facts didn't combine. slaps 
 faulty head a few times
 
 Danny:
 
 On 15/01/2013, at 9:15 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sure. Press command L or, command option F.  That brings you into the 
 address/search field in the toolbar.  From there, just navigate to the 
 element you want in the toolbar.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 14, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote:
 
 I snatched  a great tip from David Woodbridge in 1 of his legion of 
 podcasts with a quick way to jump straight from the tool bar to the HTML 
 area in Safari and I'd never herd nor thought of it before so wanted to 
 pass it on. There is a caveat, this relies on the page having a specific 
 thing like a heading or link.
 
 From the tool bar, just press the next heading command, VO command h, the 
 next link, VO Command l etc and it will jump you to the first 
 heading/link….
 
 So much quicker than stop interacting, vo shift end and then , 
 interacting with html area. :-)
 
 While on this topic, is there a command to jump straight to or into the 
 tool bar with out having to stop interacting and doing VO shift home?
 
 Thanks to all.
 
 Danny:
 
 
 On 15/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Bruinenberg cbrui...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 When i go to the address bar with command+l it highlights the current 
 address.
 Then press command c to copy.
 Hope that helps.
 Chris
 
 On Jan 14, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi
 Is there a quick way to get to the address bar in Safari so you can 
 copy the website address you're on and paste the link in an email. I 
 can navigate to it via the toolbar.
 If you press command l, you get to enter a new address but you can't 
 see the old one.
 Thanks.
 
 Lisette
 
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Re: request receipts

2013-01-14 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I took a quick look and it appears there may be a way to set it up through 
terminal but I haven't tried anything yet.

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On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Thanks so much, would greatly appreciate it.
 On 2013-01-14, at 6:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Oddly enough, I was just wonderring this earlier today.  Let me do some 
 research.
 
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 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: request receipts
 
 From what I can tell, it seems not to be possible.  A shame I suppose.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
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 Hello, all. It it possible to send read receipts in email? I don't use them 
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A good podcast for the messages application?

2013-01-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Does anybody know of a good podcast to help one with the Messages application 
on the Mac? I'm just now taking time to try to figure out how it works and how 
to integrate it with my other devices. Of course I do use Messages as in 
Messages on the iPhone a lot.

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Re: request receipts

2013-01-16 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Has anybody tried this yet? I'm thinking about doing it but wanted to know, 
since it will then do it with all emails, whether it causes any problems when 
sending to lists. If nobody has tried it, I may go ahead and do it since it is 
pretty easy to reverse anyway.


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On Jan 15, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't done this, but I did find this article. It does indeed detail a way 
 to do this in terminal:
 http://email.about.com/od/macosxmailtips/qt/et_request_recp.htm
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 
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 On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I took a quick look and it appears there may be a way to set it up through 
 terminal but I haven't tried anything yet.
 
 -- 
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 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 14, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 
 Thanks so much, would greatly appreciate it.
 On 2013-01-14, at 6:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oddly enough, I was just wonderring this earlier today.  Let me do some 
 research.
 
 Chris Gilland.
 Founder of CLG Productions
 http://www.clgproductions.com
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 8:15 PM
 Subject: Re: request receipts
 
 From what I can tell, it seems not to be possible.  A shame I suppose.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
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 Hello, all. It it possible to send read receipts in email? I don't use 
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Re: request receipts

2013-01-16 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hmmm, you could make a script out of the lines for turning this on and another 
for turning it off. Then, if you only occasionally wanted to request one, you 
could run the script by just executing the script and then change it back 
again. It wouldn't require writing anything, just putting the terminal commands 
in a file, making the file executable and putting it where it would be in your 
path so you could just type the name in terminal and hit enter to run it. Hmmm, 
might try that as soon as I have time.

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On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Kerri shalo...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hello:
 
 I tried this and it works, the trouble is, I don't want every email to have a 
 read receipt.
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Receipts: Requesting, turning on and off, responding to those sent to you

2013-01-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I've been working on this receipts issue and I'll try to lay out what I've 
done. I am now able to request receipts, reply to a request for a receipt (only 
tested on sending to myself), check to see if requesting receipts is turned on 
and off, and turn requesting receipts on and off.

Disclaimer: I'm not responsible if you accidentally delete already existing 
email headers or have other problems with email, terminal or anything else on 
your computer or in your life :-) while doing this, though of course I'll be 
willing to help troubleshoot if you post problems to the list. This is my first 
draft and though I've looked through it for errors, there's certainly the 
possibility - the overwhelming probability! - I've made some. So if in doubt, 
check things over, ask questions, and do your own research. The links where I 
got most of this information are at the bottom of this email, just above my 
signature. There are plenty of people on this list who will spot errors and 
probably find easier ways to do this. I didn't attempt to include in-depth 
instruction about terminal or applescripts. None of what is written here is 
original with me.

Mac OS version: These instructions are specifically for Mountain Lion. They may 
be used in earlier releases of Mac OS but there will be differences. For 
instance, there have been changes in the location of applescript folders in 
Mountain Lion.

Before we start, a note about copying and pasting: Be careful to get all the 
content as there are apostrophes, braces, semicolons, etc. that really are a 
part of the line to be copied and pasted. If you copy a line by doing 
shift-down-arrow, this could result in the line being put in terminal and enter 
being executed before you have a chance to check the line, so if you want to be 
able to check what you've done, highlight from left to right, making sure you 
include everything. I know that working with terminal can be a challenge with 
voiceover; I have the benefit of a braillelite with brltty in Terminal so if 
you have problems, do some research and/or ask for help on the list. Also, I 
will be referring to the return/enter key as enter. Those with older Macs may 
have both, but it's my understanding that all the newer keyboards now just have 
return. But I don't want to have to write return/enter all the time and the 
term enter seems to get used more though they are not identical and the key 
on most Macs is now really return, so if you have both and one doesn't work, 
try the other.

Step 1. Checking for headers:

Since sending receipt requests involves adding something to your email headers, 
first you want to check to see whether you presently have any custom headers 
and what they are. This is done with one line that you can paste into terminal 
and then press enter. The line is:

defaults read com.apple.mail UserHeaders

Step 2. Enabling request receipts for the first time

Note: it is possible to just wait and do this with the applescripts in Step 3 
but it may be better to do it this way the first time to ensure that there are 
no problems.

A. If in Step 1 you get something like:
The domain/default pair of (com.apple.mail, UserHeaders) does not exist:
that means you don't have any custom headers. If that is the case, things are 
simpler because you have nothing you have to keep from deleting. In that case, 
type or paste the following line in terminal, replacing Name with your name and 
email.address with your email address:

defaults write com.apple.mail UserHeaders '{Disposition-Notification-To = 
Name email@address; }'

You shouldn't see any results from this line's entry. You can check to make 
sure the Disposition-Notification-To header was added by running the line in 
step 1 again. If these are the only lines you have just done in terminal, you 
can easily get back up to the first entry from step 1 by arrowing up twice in 
terminal. You won't hurt anything if you accidentally do the line from this 
step over but you won't see any results.
You won't have to type or paste to turn this on and off each time as we will be 
using apple scripts or other alternatives for that. Skip to step 3 if you 
completed 2A successfully.

2B. If the line you entered in Terminal in step 1 gives you something that has 
a line with a left brace and the beginning and a right brace at the end, it 
means that you do have some custom headers which you may not want to delete in 
the process of adding what you need to generate receipt requests. Here's an 
example of what you might get (this is only an example; what you get will vary 
according to your custom headers):

{Bcc = b...@example.com; }

In this case you have two choices to proceed. One, which I haven't tried, would 
be to edit the .plist and add in the header. You can find more about this by 
following the link where I got most of this information, which will be at the 
bottom of this email. However, this may have changed somewhat because I notice 
that the path to 

Re: urgent urgent urgent urgent help resetting voice over to factory defaults in osx lion

2013-01-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually, you assume incorrectly. It says plainly on the website that 3.1, 
which I assume is what you have, works with 10.4 and later as long as they are 
Intel Macs.

So what exactly is it doing? Is it not talking or repeating the nag message 
over and over? And how are you sending emails? I'll help if I can but I need 
more information. Did you use the voice manager to install and make sure your 
voices showed as activated?



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On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:03 AM, hank smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:

 Hello have a imac running osx lion 10.8
 installed infovox ifox 3
 switched to voice
 now voice over refuses to work it blinks and have no way to reset to defaults
 no one sighted is here to help
 how do I reset to voice over default with out having to reload osx?
 remimber I have no sighted help
 I am assuming infovox 3 doesn't work with osx lion?
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Re: urgent urgent urgent urgent help resetting voice over to factory defaults in osx lion

2013-01-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, this will work. But if it's silent, it's also possible that the voice has 
just gone down in volume; I've had that happen though not when installing 
Infovox. As for getting rid of infovox, that may not be necessary either when 
you figure out what happened.

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On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:08 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 You may not have to. Assuming vo is otherwise running normally, use the 
 vo-cmd-arrow commands; by default up/down will change voice, so hit 
 vo-cmd-down several times to set vo to a working voice. Once you do that, you 
 should have no trouble getting rid of Infovox and re-selecting your preferred 
 voice.
 On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:03 AM, hank smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 Hello have a imac running osx lion 10.8
 installed infovox ifox 3
 switched to voice
 now voice over refuses to work it blinks and have no way to reset to defaults
 no one sighted is here to help
 how do I reset to voice over default with out having to reload osx?
 remimber I have no sighted help
 I am assuming infovox 3 doesn't work with osx lion?
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Re: urgent urgent urgent urgent help resetting voice over to factory defaults in osx lion

2013-01-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
It works with Lion, at least according to the website. I'm running the latest 
version but I'm on Mountain Lion.

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On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:15 AM, hank smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:

 will give that a try
 but does infovox 3 work with osx lion or did I just install a demo for 
 nothing?
 thanks
 Hank
 On 1/17/2013 11:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 You may not have to. Assuming vo is otherwise running normally, use the 
 vo-cmd-arrow commands; by default up/down will change voice, so hit 
 vo-cmd-down several times to set vo to a working voice. Once you do that, 
 you should have no trouble getting rid of Infovox and re-selecting your 
 preferred voice.
 On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:03 AM, hank smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 Hello have a imac running osx lion 10.8
 installed infovox ifox 3
 switched to voice
 now voice over refuses to work it blinks and have no way to reset to 
 defaults
 no one sighted is here to help
 how do I reset to voice over default with out having to reload osx?
 remimber I have no sighted help
 I am assuming infovox 3 doesn't work with osx lion?
 Hank
 
 
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Re: urgent urgent urgent urgent help resetting voice over to factory defaults in osx lion

2013-01-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hold down command-vo-keys and arrow two to the right. Then try the arrowing up. 
If you are on volume you are two to the left of voices.

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On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:25 AM, hank smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:

 Hello again I tried vo comand up and down aros all that did was lower and 
 rais voice over fvoume.
 when I did that I got a little what sounds like a parshale uderance and that 
 is all.
 its as if infovox hosed voice over.
 isn't there a way to reset the thing to default or am I going to have to 
 reload.
 all I did was install infovox and set the voice to default now I can't do a 
 darn thing with vo.
 I tried vo comand left and write and up and down to and nothing switches it 
 back threw the voices.
 did infovox mess up my osx lion?
 Hank
 On 1/17/2013 11:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 You may not have to. Assuming vo is otherwise running normally, use the 
 vo-cmd-arrow commands; by default up/down will change voice, so hit 
 vo-cmd-down several times to set vo to a working voice. Once you do that, 
 you should have no trouble getting rid of Infovox and re-selecting your 
 preferred voice.
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 Hello have a imac running osx lion 10.8
 installed infovox ifox 3
 switched to voice
 now voice over refuses to work it blinks and have no way to reset to 
 defaults
 no one sighted is here to help
 how do I reset to voice over default with out having to reload osx?
 remimber I have no sighted help
 I am assuming infovox 3 doesn't work with osx lion?
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Re: urgent urgent urgent urgent help resetting voice over to factory defaults in osx lion

2013-01-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hiphop must be new; I'll have to go look. But you can straighten that out once 
you get a voice back. But yes, it should be working if it said it was in 
evaluation mode.

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On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:34 AM, hank smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:

 I am using bootcamp windows 7 to send the email.
 I am running latest version off the website a imac intel
 it doesn't talk it says like  a sillable.
 it then sounds like a click or bomg or something I really can't discribe it 
 but it doesn't talk and does like a click click click or something like that
 it could possibly be blinking? I have a little bit of light preception in my 
 write eye and it looks like it is blinking as well.
 not sure if this is making any sense.
 I tried the hiphop voice if this is any help.
 as far as it being activated before I switched the voice I went to the 
 manager and hit the space bar to view the sample and it said this is a 
 evaluation voice and then the name of the voice I installed.
 I figured sense it said this it was a evaluation voice it was in in demo mode.
 hth a little
 Hank
 
 On 1/17/2013 11:28 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 Actually, you assume incorrectly. It says plainly on the website that 3.1, 
 which I assume is what you have, works with 10.4 and later as long as they 
 are Intel Macs.
 
 So what exactly is it doing? Is it not talking or repeating the nag message 
 over and over? And how are you sending emails? I'll help if I can but I need 
 more information. Did you use the voice manager to install and make sure 
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Re: urgent urgent urgent urgent help resetting voice over to factory defaults in osx lion

2013-01-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
good thing I read this before i sent the same advice!

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On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:37 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Turn vo off, then back on. The setting should be on voice by default once vo 
 is restarted, so just vo-cmd-down a few times without going left or right 
 once vo is running again.
 On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:35 AM, hank smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote:
 
 when I did that and did write twice it still stuck on volume it didn't 
 change to the different setting.
 Hank
 On 1/17/2013 11:34 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 If you can find the volume item in the vo-cmd-left/right rotation, move two 
 items right and you will be on the voice item. Vo-down until you get to a 
 voice that actually works. Also remember to give it a minute to load new 
 voices; it won't be instant since no voices are held in memory that are not 
 used.
 On Jan 18, 2013, at 1:28 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually, you assume incorrectly. It says plainly on the website that 3.1, 
 which I assume is what you have, works with 10.4 and later as long as they 
 are Intel Macs.
 
 So what exactly is it doing? Is it not talking or repeating the nag 
 message over and over? And how are you sending emails? I'll help if I can 
 but I need more information. Did you use the voice manager to install and 
 make sure your voices showed as activated?
 
 
 
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 Hello have a imac running osx lion 10.8
 installed infovox ifox 3
 switched to voice
 now voice over refuses to work it blinks and have no way to reset to 
 defaults
 no one sighted is here to help
 how do I reset to voice over default with out having to reload osx?
 remimber I have no sighted help
 I am assuming infovox 3 doesn't work with osx lion?
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Re: Stopping VO from saying, Return, new line.

2013-01-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I think whether you get new line or new line and return depends on the 
type of line break in the file. I know sometimes when there were both I've 
taken out the returns. I can't remember whether I've ever performed this task 
in Text Edit or have always used emacs in terminal. But that digresses from 
your issue. I don't usually get new line and/or return read when I'm using 
vo-a, which is what I assume you mean by say-all.



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On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Randy George george.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting, mine doesn't say return it just says new line, which I like as 
 I like knowing the formatting of the message or page or content I'm 
 reviewing.  Do you have it set to read lines?  
 
 Randy 
 On Jan 19, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good morning all.
 I wisht there was a way to make voice over stop saying, return, new line, 
 when reading in say all mode in any text editing application.
 Heck, even preview will do it.
 Any suggestions? Or is there nothing I can do about it.
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Re: Stopping VO from saying, Return, new line.

2013-01-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I read a lot of plaintext files and I don't always, or even usually, have this 
happen. There must be another variable involved besides. I think it's more 
likely if the line break is such that there is both a new line and a return but 
I'm not sure.

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 Hi.
 This usually happens with plane text files in textedit and other similar 
 applications.
 I've written Apple accessibility I think a couple of times about this, but 
 don't remember what responses I've gotten. Might be high time to write them 
 again about it, because it really is annoying.
 Just thought I'd add my own two cents.
 Matthew Campbell.
 
 
 On 2013-01-19, at 11:26 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've never seen that happen. Is it with a certain voice? Do you have
 punctuation set to all?
 
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 Good morning all.
 I wisht there was a way to make voice over stop saying, return, new line,
 when reading in say all mode in any text editing application.
 Heck, even preview will do it.
 Any suggestions? Or is there nothing I can do about it.
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Reading braille books on the Mac

2013-01-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hi all.

I find that in reading braille books/files on my Mac with a braille display I 
get what look like mj or j at the end of lines which I assume represent new 
lines and/or return. This happens with most braille files i get, including NLS' 
web braille. It is very distracting! I've been reading in Text Edit. Is there a 
way to keep these from showing or a better application to read braille in with 
a braille display?

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Re: Reading braille books on the Mac

2013-01-19 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't know about that unfortunately because I'm not subscribed to bookshare 
right now. Mostly I want to read NLS braille books which are brf files. These 
would be ASCII text files. I have other ways to read them but given that I got 
my Refreshabraille to use with the Mac and OS devices, I'd like to find a way 
to use it to read on my Mac.

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On Jan 19, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have also had this issue the few times I used it. If you have access
 to Bookshare, I would think there would be a way to open the xml file
 in the text only Daisy version of the book and read it in Safari? Has
 anyone been successful with this?
 
 On 1/19/13, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've noticed this too, Cheryl. I've tried a search and replace on the
 carriage returns and line feeds, but I haven't been able to make it work.
 I'd definitely like to work more on this, and if someone has come up with a
 solution, please share it.
 
 Thanks,
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 On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 I find that in reading braille books/files on my Mac with a braille
 display I get what look like mj or j at the end of lines which I assume
 represent new lines and/or return. This happens with most braille files i
 get, including NLS' web braille. It is very distracting! I've been reading
 in Text Edit. Is there a way to keep these from showing or a better
 application to read braille in with a braille display?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Problems emptying the trash

2013-01-22 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I'm not sure you have to route the mouse. I think doing cmd-option-shift-delete 
and then leaving the option key held down while releasing the other does this. 
At least I seem to remember doing this but I could be wrong because it's been a 
long time. But I still would be concerned about what I was emptying. Tim is 
right about restarting yyour computer though usually my computer says the 
trash could not be emptied because item is in use. My concern was because of 
the large number of items Chris had that couldn't be emptied.

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On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just read an article about this, and it gave a couple suggestions. One is 
 in terminal and required dragging and dropping files from trash to terminal, 
 so I don't know if that will work. The other said to hold down the option key 
 when selecting the empty trash item in the menu, so try going to the item, 
 routing the mouse, then holding option while you physically click the mouse. 
 If you don't have a mouse, I'm not sure how you could replicate this.
 On Jan 22, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't believe that a re-install is necessary.  Have you Shutdown or 
 Restart your unit lately.  Often, if there are files that the OS considers 
 in use or busy, the Trash cannot be properly emptied until after the OS 
 has been restarted.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2013-01-22, at 5:04 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good afternoon all.
 I am having a problem eptying the trash. This has been happening for a 
 while now. Here is what I do.
 1. I press command-shift-delete in the Finder.
 2. I am asked if I want to securely erase the trash. This is my personal 
 preference so I let it go ahead.
 3. I then get a window with the buttons remove unlocked files and remove 
 all.
 4. I click remove unlocked files.
 5. It goes ahead and empties it for a while, but then I'm taken back to the 
 Finder. The same is true if I have clicked remove all.
 But what concerns me is the window I described above, plus I have about 
 13,000 files in the trash, which just won't go away.
 Should I consider booting to the recovery partition, erasing the Macintosh 
 Hd volume, then reinstall Mountain Lion from scratch?
 This is on a 2012 Macbook Pro 13 inch without Retina Display.
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Re: Virus invasion

2013-01-26 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, can you give a little more detail about what viruses these are, how they 
got there, what they are doing, etc? And what is that the apple store wants to 
do to wipe it?

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 computer clean of viruses that have invaded everything, does that make sense? 
  Is there another way?
 
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Accessibility of tax Filing process

2013-01-27 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Hi all.

I've been getting things to gether to do my taxes and was looking at the 
process for my state. I see that after I get my acknowledgment back I have to 
send them an attachment with files of my w2, rent certificate, and other 
papers. I would imagine maybe the IRS requires this for the federal return too. 
So I have two questions.

(1) Does anybody know whether the transfer mechanism for sending these files is 
accessible on the Mac?

(2) Is this just a matter of scanning the files? My state says it accepts tif, 
bmp, jpg and pdf files. But I'm wondering if just scanning them like I do my 
mail and books is going to be okay or whether they could still receive an 
attachment with unreadable files. I'd really like to be able to do this but I 
sure don't want to make my tax experience a long, drawn-out one or have to 
re-do everything and have to wait and wait for my refund.

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Re: Accessibility of tax Filing process

2013-01-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Thanks for the information; I had been planning to use Taxact but saw the 
state's free e-file and wanted to investigate it. I haven't done anything yet 
except go through the forms manually and figure everything out as to refund 
amounts so I will know what I'm doing when I actually file. So if you input the 
information, which is certainly possible, does this eliminate the need to send 
attachments after receiving the acknowledgment of the receipt of your return or 
does Taxact do this for you? I definitely do intend to complain about the 
inaccessibility of this system; there is plenty of information on these 
documents that can be validated by directly inputting instead of having to send 
the attachment with scanned files.


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On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi Cheryl.
 First, how far have you gone in this process? If you have not already started 
 sending through your state's web site, you may be able to send both your 
 federal and state at the same time. Although there are some issues with 
 accessibility which I can further explain if you need to know, I have been 
 using Tax Act at taxact.com for the first time this year. I finally figured 
 the best way do it to make the process work better. 
 
 If, however, you have gone far enough in the process where you're ready to 
 send in the papers, it sounds like you could scan them and send them. 
 However, I for one would be a little skeptical about doing that because it 
 would be difficult if not impossible for you to check the accuracy of what 
 you sent in. I guess our sighted friends get to look at the image before they 
 send it in. (The state should be yelled at for doing it this way because it's 
 not the best accessibility choice. It's been my experience, as a former blind 
 IRS employee, that the federal systems are usually more accessible than the 
 state's. At least that true for Texas.) 
 
 If you use a web site like taxact.com however, you can type in the W-2 
 information yourself so that, although it's a pain to edit, you can do it if 
 you make a mistake. If you get all the information together first so that you 
 can input it all at once, the process is easier. Presumably you can do the 
 same with the state information although I have not tried it since Texas 
 doesn't have a state income tax. But I notice there is a choice for state 
 questions and answers for putting in the information. 
 
 I hope all this makes sense. If I can help you further, please ask. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 I've been getting things to gether to do my taxes and was looking at the 
 process for my state. I see that after I get my acknowledgment back I have 
 to send them an attachment with files of my w2, rent certificate, and other 
 papers. I would imagine maybe the IRS requires this for the federal return 
 too. So I have two questions.
 
 (1) Does anybody know whether the transfer mechanism for sending these files 
 is accessible on the Mac?
 
 (2) Is this just a matter of scanning the files? My state says it accepts 
 tif, bmp, jpg and pdf files. But I'm wondering if just scanning them like I 
 do my mail and books is going to be okay or whether they could still receive 
 an attachment with unreadable files. I'd really like to be able to do this 
 but I sure don't want to make my tax experience a long, drawn-out one or 
 have to re-do everything and have to wait and wait for my refund.
 
 Any input would be appreciated.
 
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 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
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Re: Buying Acapela: This? is driving? me? Crazy!

2013-01-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox
Actually if you google it's about the fourth or fifth one down and, while the 
website you went to does a good job of hiding the information, the links to 
that website in google do mention infovox ivox. If you had found that trail you 
wouldn't have gotten so frustrated but definitely the website could have a link 
to assistiveware somewhere prominent on the first page!
But hopefully this will take care of it. If you are getting the demo be sure to 
do start demo before you try to choose it in voiceover.


  
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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I'm on
 
 www.acapelagroup.com
 
 I'm trying to find where in the hell! you go to buy any of the voices, more 
 specifically the texan country Mikah voice for the Mac.  This is driving me 
 up the frickin wall!  I'm looking all over the site and no matter how hard I 
 look, nor how hard I google I cannot for the life of me find a link to get 
 the price nor purchase and download.
 
 Please can someone give me a hand before I go bawld over here from losing all 
 my hair?
 
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Re: Accessibility of tax Filing process

2013-01-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Thanks. Actually I've started the process and the Federal is going well. I'm 
having somebody sighted come and make sure everything is input correctly and 
next year I'll be able to import a lot and it will be easier. I'm also going to 
do my state with taxact even though I will pay for it because it will be 
accessible. The state's free system requires adobe acrobat which is not 
accessible for voiceover users on the Mac; I have to use that for my daughter's 
homestead and that's also where the attachment has to be done so I'm going to 
have to have sighted help for that. But so far I'm really pleased with taxact; 
I had some questions and they were very prompt and thorough in emailing me 
back. The only reason I'm not using them for my daughter's homestead is that 
taxact isn't set up to do a standalone homestead and I still would have the 
attachment issue or would have to mail the documents. But I would definitely 
recommend taxact to people using the Mac with voiceover. The link to edit your 
w2 when reviewing it, for instance, is not showing a label and takes some trial 
and error but for the most part it is accessible.

-- 
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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi there
 For federal returns, you can input everything. This includes W-2s and 1099s 
 of all iinds.  However, I have not a clue if this is true for the State 
 returns. If the state has a requirement for sending in these image files, 
 then you might be stuck with image files. Here's my suggestion. Get together 
 every paper you can possibly think of that you would need for your taxes. 
 Write-down all your information in some form you want to read for yourself. 
 This will cut down on the need for editing. I have found that helpful when 
 using TaxACT because they could use some improvement with accessibility in  
 my opinion.  The edit buttons and add buttons are not very accessible with 
 screen readers as far as I can tell,   At least, the easy way. It is possible 
 to edit if you make a mistake, but you have to go the long way around, 
 As far as I can tell, it does not  cost anything for you to go in and input 
 stuff. So, you could startr doing things, and then if you didn't like it, you 
 could erase it all. I had to erase several things and start over because I 
 messed  it up.
 Regards
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for the information; I had been planning to use Taxact but saw the 
 state's free e-file and wanted to investigate it. I haven't done anything 
 yet except go through the forms manually and figure everything out as to 
 refund amounts so I will know what I'm doing when I actually file. So if you 
 input the information, which is certainly possible, does this eliminate the 
 need to send attachments after receiving the acknowledgment of the receipt 
 of your return or does Taxact do this for you? I definitely do intend to 
 complain about the inaccessibility of this system; there is plenty of 
 information on these documents that can be validated by directly inputting 
 instead of having to send the attachment with scanned files.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl.
 First, how far have you gone in this process? If you have not already 
 started sending through your state's web site, you may be able to send both 
 your federal and state at the same time. Although there are some issues 
 with accessibility which I can further explain if you need to know, I have 
 been using Tax Act at taxact.com for the first time this year. I finally 
 figured the best way do it to make the process work better. 
 
 If, however, you have gone far enough in the process where you're ready to 
 send in the papers, it sounds like you could scan them and send them. 
 However, I for one would be a little skeptical about doing that because it 
 would be difficult if not impossible for you to check the accuracy of what 
 you sent in. I guess our sighted friends get to look at the image before 
 they send it in. (The state should be yelled at for doing it this way 
 because it's not the best accessibility choice. It's been my experience, as 
 a former blind IRS employee, that the federal systems are usually more 
 accessible than the state's. At least that true for Texas.) 
 
 If you use a web site like taxact.com however, you can type in the W-2 
 information yourself so that, although it's a pain to edit, you can do it 
 if you make a mistake. If you get

Re: Accessibility of tax Filing process

2013-01-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
No, I don't think it's weird at all and I thought about doing that; maybe I 
will next year. But so far doing it on my computer is going very well. I'm 
actually ready to file the Federal but want a sighted person to review the 
information and compare it with last year's form and my W2; next year that 
won't be as necessary. For anybody thinking about doing this, I would say that 
the first year is the hardest and maybe scariest. If you stick with the same 
system there are usually tools for importing some of your info from the 
previous year so subsequent years will be much easier.


-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi again
 I forgot to mention something. I found the process of dealing with TaxACT to 
 be easier on my iPhone. I have no idea why. The input of the basic 
 information on the Mac I found it easier easy, but when I got around to 
 putting in the tax information, I found my iPhone worked a lot better. I know 
 this sounds weird, but that's my experience with it.
 Regards
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for the information; I had been planning to use Taxact but saw the 
 state's free e-file and wanted to investigate it. I haven't done anything 
 yet except go through the forms manually and figure everything out as to 
 refund amounts so I will know what I'm doing when I actually file. So if you 
 input the information, which is certainly possible, does this eliminate the 
 need to send attachments after receiving the acknowledgment of the receipt 
 of your return or does Taxact do this for you? I definitely do intend to 
 complain about the inaccessibility of this system; there is plenty of 
 information on these documents that can be validated by directly inputting 
 instead of having to send the attachment with scanned files.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl.
 First, how far have you gone in this process? If you have not already 
 started sending through your state's web site, you may be able to send both 
 your federal and state at the same time. Although there are some issues 
 with accessibility which I can further explain if you need to know, I have 
 been using Tax Act at taxact.com for the first time this year. I finally 
 figured the best way do it to make the process work better. 
 
 If, however, you have gone far enough in the process where you're ready to 
 send in the papers, it sounds like you could scan them and send them. 
 However, I for one would be a little skeptical about doing that because it 
 would be difficult if not impossible for you to check the accuracy of what 
 you sent in. I guess our sighted friends get to look at the image before 
 they send it in. (The state should be yelled at for doing it this way 
 because it's not the best accessibility choice. It's been my experience, as 
 a former blind IRS employee, that the federal systems are usually more 
 accessible than the state's. At least that true for Texas.) 
 
 If you use a web site like taxact.com however, you can type in the W-2 
 information yourself so that, although it's a pain to edit, you can do it 
 if you make a mistake. If you get all the information together first so 
 that you can input it all at once, the process is easier. Presumably you 
 can do the same with the state information although I have not tried it 
 since Texas doesn't have a state income tax. But I notice there is a choice 
 for state questions and answers for putting in the information. 
 
 I hope all this makes sense. If I can help you further, please ask. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 I've been getting things to gether to do my taxes and was looking at the 
 process for my state. I see that after I get my acknowledgment back I have 
 to send them an attachment with files of my w2, rent certificate, and 
 other papers. I would imagine maybe the IRS requires this for the federal 
 return too. So I have two questions.
 
 (1) Does anybody know whether the transfer mechanism for sending these 
 files is accessible on the Mac?
 
 (2) Is this just a matter of scanning the files? My state says it accepts 
 tif, bmp, jpg and pdf files. But I'm wondering if just scanning them like 
 I do my mail and books is going to be okay or whether they could still 
 receive an attachment with unreadable files. I'd really like to be able to 
 do this but I sure don't want to make my tax experience a long, drawn-out 
 one or have to re-do everything and have to wait and wait for my refund.
 
 Any input would

Re: Accessibility of tax Filing process

2013-01-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The IRS doesn't provide its own e-filing system; Its website gives a list of 
providers of software and/or online programs from which you can choose. There 
isn't an IRS free-file or e-file that you can use independent of software 
providers. This is different than some states which do have their own e-file 
system. But even so, in my state's case, the state's system is less accessible. 
It requires the use of Adobe Acrobat Reader for filling out the forms and for 
certain forms requires either mailing in information after the acknowledgment 
or attaching files of documents while doing the return which involves adobe 
acrobat reader.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am wondering what makes these sites beter than using the irs's own 
 electronic filing system. Is it inaccessible? I am thinking about filing 
 electronically for the first time this year and am not up to date on all the 
 options. Thanks for catching me up.
 Marc
 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Randy George george.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 i have used www.freetaxusa.com in the past and it has worked fairly well for 
 me.  free for federal filing and only like ten bucks for state. 
 
 hth, 
 randy 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I was wondering if anyone has found a more accessible tax filing solution 
 than the taxact site mentioned in the previous messages of this thread. 
 Marc
 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:19 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi again
 I forgot to mention something. I found the process of dealing with TaxACT 
 to be easier on my iPhone. I have no idea why. The input of the basic 
 information on the Mac I found it easier easy, but when I got around to 
 putting in the tax information, I found my iPhone worked a lot better. I 
 know this sounds weird, but that's my experience with it.
 Regards
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for the information; I had been planning to use Taxact but saw the 
 state's free e-file and wanted to investigate it. I haven't done anything 
 yet except go through the forms manually and figure everything out as to 
 refund amounts so I will know what I'm doing when I actually file. So if 
 you input the information, which is certainly possible, does this 
 eliminate the need to send attachments after receiving the acknowledgment 
 of the receipt of your return or does Taxact do this for you? I 
 definitely do intend to complain about the inaccessibility of this 
 system; there is plenty of information on these documents that can be 
 validated by directly inputting instead of having to send the attachment 
 with scanned files.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl.
 First, how far have you gone in this process? If you have not already 
 started sending through your state's web site, you may be able to send 
 both your federal and state at the same time. Although there are some 
 issues with accessibility which I can further explain if you need to 
 know, I have been using Tax Act at taxact.com for the first time this 
 year. I finally figured the best way do it to make the process work 
 better. 
 
 If, however, you have gone far enough in the process where you're ready 
 to send in the papers, it sounds like you could scan them and send them. 
 However, I for one would be a little skeptical about doing that because 
 it would be difficult if not impossible for you to check the accuracy of 
 what you sent in. I guess our sighted friends get to look at the image 
 before they send it in. (The state should be yelled at for doing it this 
 way because it's not the best accessibility choice. It's been my 
 experience, as a former blind IRS employee, that the federal systems are 
 usually more accessible than the state's. At least that true for Texas.) 
 
 If you use a web site like taxact.com however, you can type in the W-2 
 information yourself so that, although it's a pain to edit, you can do 
 it if you make a mistake. If you get all the information together first 
 so that you can input it all at once, the process is easier. Presumably 
 you can do the same with the state information although I have not tried 
 it since Texas doesn't have a state income tax. But I notice there is a 
 choice for state questions and answers for putting in the information. 
 
 I hope all this makes sense. If I can help you further, please ask. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:11 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 I've been getting things to gether to do my taxes and was looking

Re: Accessibility of tax Filing process

2013-01-29 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, I know this is a little OT but I download the brf or text files every year 
to figure out my returns manually before I go through the process especially if 
I'm taking them to somebody else to do! If you go to the IRS website and to 
accessibility you can find them. And you can fill in the text files in Text 
Edit just for your own edification. I actually do them in terminal with brltty 
and my braille display but of corse this is just for my own benefit not to send 
anywhere.

-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 The alternative media center is somehow contracted to do these things. They 
 produce publications, forms in both PDS TXT and BRF files. The PDF files are 
 altered to be accessible. The regular PDF files, at this time, are not 
 accessible, so the alternative media center fixes them to be that way. Those 
 PDF files work quite Well. I had filled out some really horrible PDF forms 
 using windows.
 We get them done, you have to print them up and send them by mail semi colon 
 is not electronic filing. Cheryl gave a good summation of that.
 Well, to make this Mac related, it's too bad that we can't have those same 
 files work on our next around the iPhone. Of course, we've had that little 
 talk before.
 Regards, GG, who promises not to go off on a tangent anymore.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for that summation. I guess those electronic pdf files which you 
 refer to are some service of the irs? I'll take a spin on their website.
 Marc
 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Unless there is something new (which is possible), the IRS doesn't offer, 
 unless you're an employee, direct electronic filing. You have to go through 
 an approved electronic filer. I don't believe, unless things have changed, 
 that you can just electronic file directly from your computer to the IRS 
 web site. You can fill out those PDF files done by the Alternative Media 
 Center. I did that last year. However, you do have to use Windows to do 
 those. They are accessible with Windows. Too bad good old Adobe hasn't got 
 on the stickso we can do them with our Macs. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am wondering what makes these sites beter than using the irs's own 
 electronic filing system. Is it inaccessible? I am thinking about filing 
 electronically for the first time this year and am not up to date on all 
 the options. Thanks for catching me up.
 Marc
 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:51 AM, Randy George george.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 i have used www.freetaxusa.com in the past and it has worked fairly well 
 for me.  free for federal filing and only like ten bucks for state. 
 
 hth, 
 randy 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Marc Sutton marc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I was wondering if anyone has found a more accessible tax filing 
 solution than the taxact site mentioned in the previous messages of this 
 thread. 
 Marc
 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:19 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi again
 I forgot to mention something. I found the process of dealing with 
 TaxACT to be easier on my iPhone. I have no idea why. The input of the 
 basic information on the Mac I found it easier easy, but when I got 
 around to putting in the tax information, I found my iPhone worked a 
 lot better. I know this sounds weird, but that's my experience with it.
 Regards
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for the information; I had been planning to use Taxact but saw 
 the state's free e-file and wanted to investigate it. I haven't done 
 anything yet except go through the forms manually and figure 
 everything out as to refund amounts so I will know what I'm doing when 
 I actually file. So if you input the information, which is certainly 
 possible, does this eliminate the need to send attachments after 
 receiving the acknowledgment of the receipt of your return or does 
 Taxact do this for you? I definitely do intend to complain about the 
 inaccessibility of this system; there is plenty of information on 
 these documents that can be validated by directly inputting instead of 
 having to send the attachment with scanned files.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Cheryl.
 First, how far have you gone in this process? If you have not already 
 started sending through your state's web site, you may be able to 
 send both your federal and state at the same time. Although there are 
 some issues with accessibility which

Re: Rumola issues.

2013-01-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Did you check your spam folder for the missing emails? And is it possible you 
have to reinstall the extension for some reason if your info changes - probably 
not but just a thought. I've had great success with this for captchas but I 
have a friend who can't get the captcha to come up when she tries to register 
for skype even though it worked for me; we haven't figured out why yet. But I 
personally am thriving on having all my captchas solved before I even get to 
the text field, which I know makes it even more frustrating for people who are 
having problems.


-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, I've been trying to reregister with Rumola, sense they can't seem to be 
 able to recover my password, and I haven't been getting the e-mail's they 
 were supposed to have sent me, so decided to register with a different 
 address.  Then I got this message asking me to install the extention, which I 
 was under the impression I'd done, sense the downloaded file eventually went 
 away, it showed up in my list of extentions, and showed up as being turned 
 on, so have no idea what to make of all this, and am beyond frustrated.
  Can anyone help me out here?
 
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Re: Rumola issues.

2013-01-30 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Do you think there's an possibility that there's some kind of warning or error 
message interfering with the install? I know that with doing my income taxes 
with safari I was getting busy signals and apparently with popups blocked I 
wasn't finding those messages but also popups can obscure some items or 
windows. So you might try changing your setting; I think it's in security but 
not sure. Also when you get busy signals try doing vo-f2 twice to get into the 
window chooser and see if there is a window you aren't seeing.


-- 
Cheryl

May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've done both several times, and so far, no luck.  It takes forever and a 
 day to even get the extention to install, because safari keeps getting a busy 
 signal, which is all the more frustrating.
 On Jan 30, 2013, at 7:27 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 
 Did you check your spam folder for the missing emails? And is it possible 
 you have to reinstall the extension for some reason if your info changes - 
 probably not but just a thought. I've had great success with this for 
 captchas but I have a friend who can't get the captcha to come up when she 
 tries to register for skype even though it worked for me; we haven't figured 
 out why yet. But I personally am thriving on having all my captchas solved 
 before I even get to the text field, which I know makes it even more 
 frustrating for people who are having problems.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, I've been trying to reregister with Rumola, sense they can't seem to be 
 able to recover my password, and I haven't been getting the e-mail's they 
 were supposed to have sent me, so decided to register with a different 
 address.  Then I got this message asking me to install the extention, which 
 I was under the impression I'd done, sense the downloaded file eventually 
 went away, it showed up in my list of extentions, and showed up as being 
 turned on, so have no idea what to make of all this, and am beyond 
 frustrated.
 Can anyone help me out here?
 
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