Re: [newbie] mandriva quickstart guide + faq

2005-04-10 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 10 April 2005 19:12, Philippe Landau wrote:
> after installing Mandrakelinux 10.1 Official DVD
> i am a bit lost.
> the installation went fast and fine,
> but i need thunderbird, firefox, gaim, amule.
> can i install them through the software management interface ?
>
> after configuring konqueror and the screen resolution,
> installing firefox and thunderbird from mozilla.org,
> and not seeing my external usb harddisk, i restarted,
> and now konqueror does not start anymore.
> so i wanted to uninstall it,
> but software manager does not find it.
>
> is there a faq answering such questions ?
>
> kind regards philippe

I gather from your post you are very new to linux in general.
Try not to expect the same handling as you did in windows.
Do not (just)uninstall what doesn't seem to work for you, you might need it 
again later.
Take your time to look around at what you've got installed...it's more than 
you think or can see at a first glance.

Yes, I would certainly advise to _only_ install via the software 
managerthat will save some disappointments, depencies_wise.

For tips, tricks and faq's check the twiki:
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/WebHome

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Re: [newbie] comparing mandrake based linux distributions

2005-04-08 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 09 April 2005 01:38, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Friday 08 April 2005 03:53 pm, Philippe Landau wrote:
> > hello
> >
> > i like PCLinux, i like Sam, i like PLF (not a distro)
> > but i have very little experience with them.
> > and most of all, i like the Mandrake mailinglists:
> > there are warm-hearted people here,
> > which is rare on technical mailinglists.
> > Ubuntu for example advertises "humanity onto others"
> > while encouraging a gang mentality on their mailing lists.
> > dissent and open discourse is not welcome there.
> > the PCLinux lists suffer from a lack of warmth.
> > and MandrakeSoft/Mandriva is too commercial for me.
> >
> > comparing the products though, what do you recommend ?
> > i like email, web, p2p, multimedia and simple but complete.
> >
> > kind regards philippe
>
> I have been playing with DSL linux although you will have to compile
> multimedia in xmms,grip,lame etc.
> it's only a 50Mb download too :-D

 Is DSL mandrake based?..could've fooled me!;)

I love Slackware for it's robustness and clarity but: for day2day desktop 
stuff my family likes to doMANDRAKE IS UNBEATABLE..for crying out 
loud:)
 
Mandrake (or driva) is the one and only MsWindows_killer out there (not 
counting macOSX) and it has been for quite a number of years!

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Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview

2005-04-05 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 19:14, Aron Smith wrote:
> It's better at opening *some* Word files than Word is

OOo and Word treat whitespace differently.whatch out for that on large 
docs.pdf is the solution.
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Re: [newbie] Opportunity to plug OOo at interview

2005-04-05 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 18:10, JR wrote:
> I have an interview coming up in a few weeks. One of the minor requirements
> would be skills with MS word and excel. I was thinking of using this as an
> opportunity to say "but I've also started to use OOo more often because I
> find I am more productive and it does   ".
>
> Can anyone give me a few differences / similarities they might be
> interested in? I'm not going to get into open source to them at the
> interview. But if I can quickly mention a few tangible clenchers, I will.
> The jobs not that good anyway :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Jarlath

Well for one: it can open OOo files;) And almost any other format you throw at 
it.

2.Vector graphics are handled better albeit rudimentary

3.comparing documents through ,  is cool...don't know 
if Word has that or  the people I asked just don't know.

4.Its free as in beer, as well! ;)
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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 00:25, Isak Lyberth wrote:
> The server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy Econel50, from the economic
> series of their server
> on their homepage they just state it as a integrated graphics card :(
> the chipset-chip on the server has a cooling unit on, so i am unable to
> tell you which chipset it is. Also i can't see any modelnumbers on the
> mainboard
>
> Regards Isak
>
> Stephen Furlong wrote:
> > Is it an actual server or just a desktop machine? Either way, some
> > indication as to what motherboard it contains should point us/you in
> > the right direction for graphics card. Open the side panel off (if
> > feasible) and look for any model numbers on the board.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best of luck!
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Isak Lyberth
> > *Sent:* 04 April 2005 22:24
> > *To:* newbie@linux-mandrake.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake
> >
> >
> >
> > I have not found out what card it is, maybe someone else here knows
> > which it is?
> > it is anoying as the installation was the graphical one, and it looked
> > fine.
> > regards
> >
> >
> > H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> >
> >On Monday 04 April 2005 22:48, Isak Lyberth wrote:
> >>I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
> >>
> >>This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of
> >>
> >>administrating the server. What means do i have?
> >>
> >>(the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some
> >>
> >>new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not
> >>
> >>intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i
> >>
> >>find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Regards Isak
> >
> >Use framebuffer i.e. "fbdev" as a driver...that should work for "almost"
> > all
> >
> >cardswhat is the card, anyway?
> >
> >
> >
> >If all fails (how did you install?) try using another box and connect with
> >
> >that using ssh (mandrake has X forwarding enabled by default) and start
> > your
> >
> >gui app remotely.
> 

BtTW...my bad: Derek pointed it out correctlyone needs the vesa driver for 
the framebuffer.fbdev is for Slackware. I get confused between my 2 
favourite distribs every now and then:-p

On initiating "XFdrake" on the console , take a look at what default Mdk 
defaults tousually it's the correct one/Driver.

If not give us the output of "lspci" so's we can guess at what card you might 
have..Contrary to popular belief, there are some cards that get probed 
all wrong and won't run without some tweaking help.especially kyros2 
based cards and some old ATI cards.

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Re: [newbie] means of administrating mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 04 April 2005 22:48, Isak Lyberth wrote:
> I have a computer where the graphics card is not supported by Xorg.
> This anoys me to a great extend as i now have to use some other way of
> administrating the server. What means do i have?
> (the server is a Fujitsu-Siemens Econel 50 Primergy server, with some
> new onboard graphics chipset. It has a PCI Express card which i do not
> intend to use. I might go looking for a PCI graphics card, but untill i
> find one i need to fix things through some other tool, what to use?
>
> Regards Isak

Use framebuffer i.e. "fbdev" as a driver...that should work for "almost" all 
cardswhat is the card, anyway?

If all fails (how did you install?) try using another box and connect with 
that using ssh (mandrake has X forwarding enabled by default) and start your 
gui app remotely.

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Re: [newbie] IRC channel, Mandrake

2005-04-04 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 04 April 2005 14:13, Stephen Kühn wrote:
> Hope to see some of y'all drop on by!

Trouble is, I wanna go to sleep when you wake up;)

Hah, you could've had us a day earlier with April-fool..now there's a 
missed oportunity!:)

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Re: [newbie] Using the sources of http://www.zarb.org

2005-04-03 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 03 April 2005 09:28, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> Robert Yu wrote:
> >Is it possible to save the packages downloaded from this site onto a
> >cache folder for later use?
>
> You can download the packages using ftp or something similar, and then,
> when they are all sitting in a directory, call up a root shell and go to
> the directory and type the following:
>
> genhdlist --dest `pwd`
>
> If you get errors, then type the following in order to ignore corrupted
> archives:
>
> genhdlist --nobadrpm --dest `pwd`
>
> Then, when it has completed, run Mandrake Control Centre and go to media
> manager and set up the directory as a source.
>
> It works for me. I just ignore the whining about checksums and click on
> "yes" and then the stuff installs straight from rpmdrake.
> "urpmi" should pick it up too, although I usually use the GUII tool for
> this one.
>
> cheers
> Duncan

If you run "urpmi" from the commandline, add the --no-clean flag, i.e.
"urpmi --no-clean packagename.rpm"

That way the installed rpm will stay in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/
W.o. the no-clean flag they get deleated when the install script finishes.
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Re: [newbie] network install

2005-04-02 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 02 April 2005 18:40, JR wrote:
> I have a desktop and a laptop on a network. I want to install mandrake on
> the desktop. My mandrake installation disk is a DVD. The  desktop does not
> have a DVD drive, but the laptop does.
>
> So, I'm trying to use the laptop to 'server' the DVD to the desktop. Can
> someone help me here? I can find no documentation on ftpd. I installed the
> drakwizard.but the ftp option keeps failing, and the 'installation server'
> option, I don't understand.
>
> If I could even just ftp serve the /mnt/dvd drive then I think it would
> work. I have make a boot cd for the desktop with the network install
> option, all I need is a properly configured server.
>
> I dont have enough bandwidth remaining to download the CD's.
>
> Regard,
>
> Jarlath

Answering from memory hereso if it's wrong I hope some-one will correct 
me.

I know Slackware does the ftp_install over the net, Mandrake doesn't!

Mandrake uses NFS_mountsno biggie except that you (or I) cannot mount 
removable devices as such.

If you've got enough temp. hard diskspace copy the whole DVD content to a 
directory somewhere in your /home/user/ directory and "share" it. ... look 
for the option in the directorie's property tab.

Then point the desktop to that shared directory and you're on your way.

Prolly there's an entry on that topic on the wiki too.
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/ 

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Re: [newbie] extracting cd audio files

2005-03-26 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 26 March 2005 10:50, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Saturday 26 March 2005 00:51, Paul Kaplan wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a program for copying individual tracks from an
> > audio cd to a hard drive?  What about file format for storing the files
> > in?  What about converting between audio file formats?
> >
> > TIA
> > Paul
>
> Grip is best if you want to rip files from CD, but konqueror also can be
> very useful.
> Press the 'services' button in your konqueror sidebar and you will see the
> 'Audio CD browser'  (If you cannot see the sidebar hit F9 )
>
> From the audio CD browser you can drag and drop audio files from the CD
> in .wav, .ogg, or .mp3 format.
>
> Note: Because mp3 is covered by patent Mandrake does not support creating
> mp3's out of the box. You will have to declare a urpmi source for 'plf' by
> going to http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ and install the lame and liblame0
> packages.
>
>
> As for file formats, as I mention above mp3 is covered by patent and any
> time you use it a gentleman from the Fraunhofer institute is entitled to
> turn up on your doorstep demanding money.  So us geeky open source types
> prefer .ogg. It is 'free' software and better quality than mp3 anyway.
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4416
>
> To convert between file formats there is a neat command line utility called
> 'sox'  Install the sox package and then enter #sox in the url line of
> konqueror for instructions.
>
> derek
Derek,
You have just made my 14 yr old daughter a very, very happy girl;)
Somehow I always had to help her out with grip.

Slick, how easy the d&d works. Never stumbled across that feature, myself.
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Re: [newbie] win4lin

2005-03-24 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 24 March 2005 15:32, Christophe wrote:
> Hello,
> Since I can not watch dvds on my laptop ( and I tried...) and I need
> Asymetrix Toolbook to create educational material.
> How can I install win 98 ( I have the cd for it) on my machine who is
> completely dedicated to MDK 10.1 community.
> I saw a win4lin kernel, what is the purpose of it?
> Is it easy to install windows under MDK when you have one 60 GB HD on a
> acer Aspire 1680 notebook?
> I'm sorry to do that but I have to work too :-D  ...from time to time!
> Thank you
> Christophe

Cristophe,
Take into account that: if MDK doesn't see your DVD drive then win4lin will 
not see it either!! 
Your best bet is to get your DVD working or...install Windows on it's own 
partition and double-boot.

Adding windows is no big deal except that it'll(windows)  want to use your 
first partitionwhich is prolly taken by Linux.

Tell us what's wrong with your DVD player i.e. exactly what you think is not 
working so we can help you fix it. AFAIK acers don't have very exotic 
DVD-players so we should get it working and that way it'll work on win4lin 
too. Saving you the new Windows install humbug:)
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Re: [newbie] Games recommendation

2005-03-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 22:59, JR wrote:
> On Monday 21 March 2005 10:08 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> > Hi folks,
>
> 
>
> > Do you have any recommendation on games that can relieve our stress
> > level? Thanks :)
>
> I love airstrike. Their still working on it but the version released at the
> moment is playable against another player or the computer. It's based on
> 'bip' (bi-plane).

Try "enigma" if you like puzzles.and of course sirtet if you like tetris.

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 18 March 2005 20:42, Michel Leunen wrote:
> It's already a mess and it's worth a try, I think. My second choice is
> to upgrade my whole mandrake distribution from 10.0 to 10.2 beta 3.

Don't simply "upgrade" from 10.0 to 10.2...that'll be an even finer mess.
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Re: [newbie] FAT question

2005-03-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 18 March 2005 09:47, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> >> I've just got my hands on a 160 GB external USB hard disk.
> >> Now, this thing comes preformatted with a FAT32 (vfat) file system.
> >> When I unmount the thing I can't reformat the drive with a decent
> >> file system like ReiserFS, JFS, ext2 or ext3 from be it the MCC or by
> >> hand.  I can't even re-partition it with FAT32 ?
> >>
> >> So here it goes :  will this FAT32 file system become fragmented over
> >> time like any other Windows file system ?
> >>
> >> If yes, how to defrag it ?
> >>
> >> Or, will I have to move the FS to another drive back-and-forth in
> >> order to defrag ?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> Kaj Haulrich.
> >
> > I deleted the wrong message, so this is not a direct reply to this
> > message, but to one later in the thread...  :-(
> >
> > When you were trying to work with the drive, what device were you
> > giving fdisk? If you unmount the FAT partition first, you should be
> > able to use something like "fdisk /dev/sda" to get at the partition
> > table. If you can, then it is simple to change the drive to another
> > file system. If you are happy with it being one large partition, then
> > change the type (t) to 83 (ext2/3) and save (w) the updated partition
> > table.
> > Then run "mke2fs -j /dev/sda1" to create an ext3 file system.
> >
> > If you have any data on the drive you want to keep, BACK IT UP before
> > starting this.
> >
> > Please keep in mind that the drive may not be /dev/sda and the
> > partition may not be /dev/sda1 - it depends on your system, and how
> > the drive was partitioned.
> >
> > Mikkel
>
> Just a newbie thought : Can you do as root :
>
> # cat /etc/fstab | grep sd
>
> And post it back here. Be sure the device is plugged in first.
>
> TIA

Even easier: "cat /dev/sd" on the CML and hit ...that way you'll see 
what's there.
When inserting/plugging the device the specific /dev/sd* file gets made 
and also gets removed when unplugging.

Repeat after me:
 is my best on the command line..!;)
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-17 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 17 March 2005 21:28, Michel Leunen wrote:
> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > apparently your problem isn't solved yet...
>
> No. I've tried to do another update hoping it will repair kde but with
> no luck. I think I'll have to reinstall it, I'm afraid.

Well you could try a new (kde)install after removing everything that's 
associated...but that'll be a fine mess, prolly.
I gathered that KDE3.4 was out today and could be installed in the /home 
directory (or maybe /opt) so as not to interfere with previous versions.

Maybe worth a look, eh?

>
> > so let's take a few tests:
>
> Ok, let's go!
>
> > After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror
> > from there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle
> > button) the error messages and mail 'em to us.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ konqueror
> konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol:
> _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent

Frankly, I'm not in the clear what this means other than the obvious 
"undefined event":(
There's a version incompatibility somewhere there, prolly.
>
> > On top of that start a new session by doing , , 
> > simultaneously and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at
> > the prompt. Then at the same prompt:
> > "startx -- :1"  without the quotes and watch the space between "--" and
> > ":1".
> >
> > That should open up a second X(kde)session on ,,check
> > ,, to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you
> > care;)
> >
> > And go back to the original ,, to see the error messages
> > it produces in respect to kde.
>
> Here is what appears and there is no error message it seems:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] michel]$ startx -- :1
>
> Release Date: 18 December 2003
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.4-1.tmb.5mdk i686 [ELF]
> Current Operating System: Linux LinuxPC 2.6.3-7mdk #1 Wed Mar 17
> 15:56:42 CET 2004 i686
> Build Date: 05 November 2004
>  Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
>  to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Module Loader present
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log", Time: Thu Mar 17 21:21:41 2005
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
>
> Using vt 8
>
> (II) Initializing extension GL
>
> SetClientVersion: 0 8

Looks OK to me i.e. normal start-up procedure.and I gather KDE is still 
botching up on F8.

> That's all. Nothing more except some newlines. It doesn't tell me much,
> quite cryptic for me.
>
> Thanks for your help.

No prob...too bad this is happening...and prolly quite maddening too, for you.
This upgrade stuff is what tore me away from kde to xfce, almost like windows 
isn't it?:(

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 20:48, Michel Leunen wrote:
> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's
> > running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib
> > upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case).
>
> I'm not 100% sure that my problem is a consequence of an upgrade but I
> think i'll follow your advice in the future.
> Thanks,
>
> Michel
apparently your problem isn't solved yet...so let's take a few tests:

After booting up into xfce4, open a terminal and try to start konqueror from 
there.copy (select with left mouse button and paste with middle button) 
the error messages and mail 'em to us. 

On top of that start a new session by doing , ,  simultaneously 
and then logging as you (or any other user you like) at the prompt.
Then at the same prompt:
"startx -- :1"  without the quotes and watch the space between "--" and ":1".

That should open up a second X(kde)session on ,,check 
,, to go back to check your running xfce4 session if you 
care;)

And go back to the original ,, to see the error messages it 
produces in respect to kde.

If you want to see how it should work ergo a working Xsession kill the 
running/frozen session with  ,, and enter "startxfce4 
-- :1" at the prompt.
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 11:44, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I haven't moved win4lin to this box yet anyway, so that's not a problem.  
>   I seem to spend 6 months ironing out problems on a new install,
> only to have to do it all over again because I need maybe just one thing
> that the existing install can't give me.

My personal trick on win4lin: Install their kernel (when it's available), on 
the new install and copy (I keep them backed up on the HD as well on 
CD) /var/win4lin and /opt/win4lin to resp. /var and /opt.
If you kept your /home/ann/win directory in order it'll run as beforeno 
serial number hassle et all.

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Re: [newbie] desktop shortcut

2005-03-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 10:36, Stephen Kühn wrote:

> H.J. => She just did an "Aron Smith" => She's got it workin now...
>
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Ta mate,
getting a bit slow (and thick, some say) on me old day;)

Repairing the old gal again so I've got some time to spare;)

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Re: [newbie] desktop shortcut

2005-03-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 10:26, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> Please ignore my first post.  I went back to google and found another set

Too late;)

> of (easier for me as a newb) instructions.  Have my icon, it works, and I
> am happy.
>
> cheers
> Rosemary

BTW k3b should fire up automagically when inserting an empty writable in the  
cd-burner.
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Re: [newbie] desktop shortcut

2005-03-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 10:14, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> I've installed k3b and would like to have a desktop shortcut as it is not
> listed in my menus (that I have found yet).  I can start it okay from
> command line, but thought there has to be another way.
>
> I found instructions to right click on desktop and enter path in "link to
> application".  The problem is that I do not know what the path is.  k3b is
> in /usr/bin so I simply tried entering that which was no good.  The example
> in the insrtuctions doesn't bear any resemblance to me, to my want/need.
>
> Thanks
> Rosemary
If you're using KDE it should under: , , .

You can add it yourself (any place you want) by right-clicking "yellow star" 
and selecting "menu editor" and copying the existing entry (or adding a new 
one) anywhere you want.

The complete path shouldn't be nescessary, just:"k3b" (without the quotes) 
should do the trick.
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:17, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 Mar 2005 21:26, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from
> > xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that
> > laptop..and I'm not complaining;)
> >
> > Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love
> > xfce4;)
> >
> > I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a
> > winner!), kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I
> > don't really need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;)
>
> I'm having lots of problems with regard to kmail and imap, and everyone on
> the kde lists is telling me that I should upgrade - I'm on kde 3.2.3 and
> kmail 1.7.1.  They say that most of my problems will just disappear if I
> get the newer version of kmail - for which I will need 3.3.  I've read so
> many bad experiences about upgrading, though, I'm reluctant to do it.  This
> is definitely a matter of 'between a rock and a hard place'.
>
> Anne

Well people can call me chicken but I never, NEVER upgrade a KDE that's 
running on my install.I prefer waiting for the next general distrib 
upgrade (which is never very far away in mdk's case).

There were times you could install new kde-upgrades in /opt/ which sorted out 
most problems, but sadly they're not of late any more.

And FWIW: I've got kmail/kontact1.7.2 running on kde 3.3.2 with mdk10.2rc3 
quite stable and satisfactorybut don't ask me what's the diff: I don't 
see very much there. Hopefully it's all stability in that respect.

This machine (my work-horse:triade1) runs kmail1.7.1 on kde3.2.3 with mdk10.1, 
but admittedly I don't use imap, only pop-servers.

It won't hurt upgrading to 10.2rc3 IMO. It's about as stable as 10.1 
official'll ever be...give it a go but don't upgrade, do a fresh install 
retaining your /home(you'll lose win4lin again, though)
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:19, Michel Leunen wrote:
> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance?
> > Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading
>
> yes, I do an upgrade regularly but, IIRC, kde was still working after my
> last upgrade.
> In the case it was the upgrade that messed my kde up, what's the
> solution? Retry an update?
>
> Michel

I don't know.I like xfce4 but it sucks when apps like konq don't start 
when asked..agreed.

I messed my KDE so bad konq would take about 5 minutes to start from 
xfce...beuh!!! So I installed Mdk10.2rc3 totally afresh on that 
laptop..and I'm not complaining;)

Believe me KDE is a PIA when it comes to upgrades.makes you love xfce4;)

I just use xfce and the usable parts of kde like kppp (now there's a winner!), 
kontact (OK), kaffeine and konqueror (if it'll run).so I don't really 
need to upgrade the whole thing, only the parts;)

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 21:12, Michel Leunen wrote:
> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline
> > ergo when you say that about "/usr/share/bla/bla", are you trying to find
> > "clickable" executables like in windows?
>
> I'm a new Linux user but not completely dumb, I hope :-)

You don't give the impression, nor does your site...on the contrary.
It's just that some very proficiant windows-users sometimes get terribly lost 
in their first steps. especially when it comes to the CoMmandLine (CML) which 
we take almost for granted after a while:)

>
> > Executables are found in "bin/" and "sbin/" directories in linux but very
> > few will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command!
>
> I don't know what XFDrake is so I looked where i could find it. I just
> said that the only reference to XFdrake I found was in /usr/share/mdk/
> and it's a directory. The unsaid question was then: Anne, what do you
> mean when telling me to try xfdrake? What is it?

It's XFdrake (mind the capitals) .enter XFd on the commandline (as 
su/root) and hit  for autocompletion. The  is your best friend 
(better 'n google) on the CML.
XFdrake is a wizard for configuring X and the desktop BTW.You don't need 
it here.

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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:26, Michel Leunen wrote:
> $ konqueror
> konqueror: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol:
> _ZN9KIconView21contentsDragMoveEventEP14QDragMoveEvent
>
> Have no idea what it means.

Did you upgrade KDE recently, buy any chance?
Sounds familiar to the frightful mess KDE always gets into when upgrading
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 20:20, Michel Leunen wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Here's one possibility that I'd try.  Try XFDrake, if you can get to a
> > command line.  Try booting "linux-nonfb" if you can't, then try XFDrake. 
> > If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility.
>
> Hmm, I just have one directory called xfdrake (/usr/share/mdk/xfdrake).
> Nothing that I can launch.
>
> Michel

Michel,

Just for curiosity's sake...are you familiar with the commandline ergo 
when you say that about "/usr/share/bla/bla", are you trying to find 
"clickable" executables like in windows?

Executables are found in "bin/" and "sbin/" directories in linux but very few 
will execute dierctly by mouse-click. You need to type a command!

Did you try adding a new user ("userdrake" on the commandline) or deleting the 
kde config (.rc files) files Kaj and I suggested?

Like your site BTWvery clean and slick:)
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Re: [newbie] new user

2005-03-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 09:59, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> Hi there
>
> My son is returning home to live for a few months - so thought I would add
> him as new user.  Used 'adduser' name
>
> There was no prompt for a password so did not do anything else. On the next
> free line I added the password, wondering if it was needed.  Then exited
> konosle.  Attempted to logon using the new name, but simply won't do it. 
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Rosemary
Yes, on the cml (as root)
"passwd username" without the quotes. You'll be prompted for a password 
(twice)
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 14 March 2005 22:11, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 14 Mar 2005 20:39, Michel Leunen wrote:
> > eric jackson wrote:
> > > You didn't say if you had a command prompt or not. If you do have the
> > > command line, did you try startx?
> >
> > No prompt, I use mdkKDM to login. It's the Mandrake graphical login
> > tool. Typing startx from a command prompt doesn't launch KDE. Actually,
> > the X server is launched. I can see the blue background image and the
> > splash screen but that's all. I forgot to say that there is no peculiar
> > message in /var/log/... either.
>
> Here's one possibility that I'd try.  Try XFDrake, if you can get to a
> command line.  Try booting "linux-nonfb" if you can't, then try XFDrake. 
> If everything is still OK there you've ruled out one possibility.
>
> Anne

X isn't the problem as he can log into another windowmanagerit's kde 
that's for sure.
Optionally he can start a kde-app (say konqueror) from a console and check 
what kind of error messages come drifting by.but I'd recomend that for a 
later stage. Prolly some kind of setting that got messed up when logging out 
in a previous session.
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Re: [newbie] Kde desktop disappeared

2005-03-14 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 14 March 2005 20:01, Michel Leunen wrote:
> Some weeks ago, I lost Konqueror and had to reinstall the whole KDE.
> Now, it's the KDE desktop which disappeared suddenly when trying to log
> in. The desktop just doesn't show up. No taskbar, no panel, no desktop
> and no icons and I have to leave using 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to log with
> another window manager.
> How can I get KDE back? And, please, don't tell me I have to reinstall
> once again.
>
> Michel

The first thing I'd do is create another user and log into KDE as that new 
user. If the problems don't show up it's a faulty setting in your 
"/home/michel/.kde/" directory.just delete it and check in as you used 
to.

You will lose existing kde settings like those of kmail as well as bookmarks 
in konqueror etc etc.
So if that is a major problem, say so and we'll fine tune what has to be 
changed/deleted.

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Re: [newbie] FreeNX, kNX on Mandrake 10.1

2005-03-13 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 11:34, Adrian Coman wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Did anyone succeded in running a FreeNX server and connection with a kNX
> client (or with nxclient from www.nomachine.com)?
> If yes, how?

No, I haven't got it to work yet not knx nor nxclient:(
It logs in to the server and then hangs demanding a password for user: nx.
It should authenticate using the keys but somehow it won't..grrr.


> Are there NX, FreeNX and kNX RPMs for Mandrake?

Yes, check out cooker(10.2)...they're all there:)

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Re: [newbie] scribus users, pls help. pasting text longer than 1 page.

2005-03-09 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 17:44, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Interesting.  I don't have to deal with printers myself, so I've no
> experience of that, but everything I've read over the last year or so has
> been to the effect that most printers will happily accept pdfs.  I suspect,
> though, that you have to negotiate a lot of details to make sure that it's
> what they want.
>
> Anne

Well the point is most printers use Macs and Adobe software. eps 
and .ai( adobe illustrator) are used for vector graphics whereas .pdf is 
bitmapped again and thus rejected.

Scribus uses vectors as does Inkscape and I've allready bullied (read: drove 
'm mad) my habitual printers into accepting .eps by default and slowly 
getting used to .svg files.

If Adobe Illustrator would run on linux I'd find a way to get somebody else 
(preferably) to buy it for methough admittedly I love the way inkscape is 
getting along.

BTW check out "frontline" for converting/tracing bitmaps to vectors (.svg 
or .ai or whatever) it works OK as long as the bitmap isn't too 
difficult/intricate.

Another problem is the colours I have to send an extra mail as to exactly what 
colours should be used.that is if they're very specific.
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Re: [newbie] scribus users, pls help. pasting text longer than 1 page.

2005-03-09 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 15:55, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Oops!  For some reason I'm totally text-oriented, so I look at menus and
> context-menus but miss icons!  I should have seen that.  Thanks
>
> Anne

You're not alone in thatI missed that one too:)
I like scribus, the only problem is that profesional printers(you know the 
peolpes) usually want .eps or .ai files and the .eps scribus delivers/exports 
often mess up the fonts:(
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Re: [newbie] scribus users, pls help. pasting text longer than 1 page.

2005-03-09 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 05:40, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Hi all,
> I tried to make an article using Scribus. First I typed the article in text
> editor, then copy paste it in scribus. The article is kind of longer than 1
> page, so the rest of the article isn't visible. The second page is blank.
>
> Can I make scribus to automatically put the rest of the article in the
> second page?
> Thanks.

No, you can't. You can resize the frame to fit your single page...which' ll 
make your fonts smaller (or flatter) or split the text over 2 frames.

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Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council

2005-03-07 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 07 March 2005 13:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Here's to democracy, EU-style :
>
> http://wiki.ffii.org/Cons050307En
>
> In short : The Microsoft puppet-state Luxembourg denied council
> members from Poland, Portugal and Denmark their request to change
> the Directive on Software Patent from an A-item to a B-item.
>
> So friends, that was it :  forget about software development in
> Europe.
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

I'm not surprised at all, it would have been at this meeting or the next 
meeting or the next or the next.Politicians can be bought and the EU ones in 
particular.
I'm not surprised there's no Dutch stance either, they've been the ones 
working in the background pushing MS. Dutch EU politician Bolkestein up front 
taking care of their rightsHe's right wing BTW and thankfully been pushed 
offstage as of short.


Don't ever forget that the EU is not a democratic organisation, it's built 
upon the European Steel and Coal Union..a multinational 
affair.Unification is good but not solely on economic terms. 
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Re: [newbie] Duplex printing hp deskjet 970cxi

2004-12-06 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 06 December 2004 07:18, Amy wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 13:05:57 -0700, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a Deskjet 970cxi printer with a with a two sided module
> > (looks like a double roller gadjet that fits on the back of the
> > printer).
> >
> > I would like to be able to print on both sides of the paper for book
> > or tablet printing. I found the commands for printing using manual
> > loading of paper. But I would like to utilize the printers automatic
> > feed through the module. I have cups installed and printer works fine.
> >
> > Does anyone have any experience with this printer or two sided printing?
> >
> > Or point me in a direction to look?
> >
> > I have been doing some searching and reading but not much luck yet.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mike
>
> I know when I set up my hp deskjet 6122, in order to get the duplex
> printing, I had to go find a module/driver/whatever you call it made
> specifically for the hp printers to get it to work duplex. Google is
> your friend here.
>
> I need to actually find it again, since I recently did a reinstall,
> and haven't tried to reinstall the driver. If/when I deal with that
> again, I'll give you links and/or names of what to look for. I do
> remember having to install the module/driver/whatever from source, I
> didn't find any nice happy rpms. But it wasn't hard, I managed to do
> it without one of my friends hand holding me through the process,
> because the site I found it on was very specific about how to do it.
> ^_^
>
> Good luck.
>
> ~~ >^..^< ~~
> I'm a gmail user! I'm still waiting on them to listen to my request to
> allow me to disable my reply-to field. If you get this message via a
> mailing list, please double check the to field before sending your
> reply. Thanks much! ^_^
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>  ~Greg Palast

My 6122 does duplex printing with the standard cups driver that came with Mdk.
If you're using "qtcups" and the print widget opens for confirmation, hit the 
"properties" tab and you'll be able to select the "long-side" or "short side" 
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Re: [newbie] Kpilot & Palm Tungsten T5

2004-12-05 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 05 December 2004 20:13, David Little wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can't access my T5 with KPilot. Messages shows it's on /dev/ttyUSBn but
> KPilot can't link to it.
>
> When HotSync on the T5 times out or is cancelled, the next time the T5
> attempts to connect it's on a different port.
>
> Anyone got this working on 10.1?
>
> David
>
> Output from tail -f /var/log/messages
> Dec  5 18:49:51 tosh kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using
> address 10
> Dec  5 18:49:51 tosh kernel: visor 1-1:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS
> converter detected
> Dec  5 18:49:51 tosh kernel: usb 1-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter
> now attached to ttyUSB4
> Dec  5 18:49:51 tosh kernel: usb 1-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter
> now attached to ttyUSB5
>
> Setting Device as /dev/ttyUSB4 in KPilot doesn't work
> If I Cancel on Palm and press HotSync again the palm is  attached to
> ttyUSB6 and ttyUSB7
>
> Dec  5 18:58:01 tosh kernel: visor 1-1:1.0: device disconnected
> Dec  5 18:58:01 tosh kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using
> address 17
> Dec  5 18:58:02 tosh kernel: visor 1-1:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS
> converter detected
> Dec  5 18:58:02 tosh kernel: usb 1-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter
> now attached to ttyUSB6
> Dec  5 18:58:02 tosh kernel: usb 1-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter
> now attached to ttyUSB7
David,
I've got a treo 600 but it works similar to the T5 AFAIK:
 
1)Connection by USB(ttyUSB0never mind the messages) cable goes 
faster/easier (especially the first time) with the PDA connected to a power 
source as well.
2)Do the connection with the software "button" on your touch screen NOT with 
the hardware button on the cable!!
3) First start up KPilot and let it wait for the connection (even time out) 
then...do the "hotsync" on the screen!
4)sometimes it helps to edit the "conduits" and when the config widget is 
closedkpilot will want to upgrade the changes   and .work;)
5)For installing "rpc" files do "hotsync" twicethe first time round they 
don't installwhatch the conduits!
6) Me..I never got it to sync mail with kmail. Maybe somebody else has.
7) This can all be done with InfraRed too but that's a new bag of fish;)
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Re: [newbie] Windows "Security"

2004-12-02 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 03 December 2004 00:03, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> 
>
> Agreed.  At last Microsoft did something good.
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

Actually I'm not all together thrilled at the idea.

A large multinational enterprise (with a very stained legal and moral 
reputation) has more information than national security agencies and police 
forces. Who's in a position to check the validity of the assesions MicroSoft 
makes?
Certainly not the local judges when it comes to court.

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Re: [newbie] Windows "Security"

2004-12-02 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 02 December 2004 23:14, rikona wrote:
> Hello H.J.Bathoorn,
>
> Thursday, December 2, 2004, 12:49:07 PM, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
>
> HJB> On Thursday 02 December 2004 21:30, Simon Roberts wrote:
> >> These things will, by default, download and execute various things
> >> you probably didn't want. This is compounded by the average user's
> >> response to the typical security warning which they read as:
>
> HJB> Which is why one should confine them to the LAN-only.
>
> Another approach is to NOT use M$ software other than the OS. For
> example, programs such as TheBat (email) (1) do NOT use vulnerable M$
> components in their code, (2) can be configured to NOT go to the web
> for anything [other than email, of course :-)], and (3) to NOT open
> anything. This allows even a relatively naive user to have email with
> MUCH improved safety.

Agreed.I usually offer "calypso" to those people.It's abandon 
ware/free and quite nice and/or (if the box is up to it) mozilla in all it's 
form.
Downside is that calypso has a strange way of compressing it's backups..if 
it realy crashes there's hardly a way to salvage old mail archives.

Downside of the Bat is this user_name_initials stuff in "reply's". IMHO 
they're daft, at the least;)

>
> I have suggested this approach to many users who are stuck with M$, or
> still too afraid to switch, and it has reduced their problems
> enormously.

Kick Outlook, VB and IE and you're more than halfway secure but that wasn't 
point of the original post, was it?

Keeping Windows off the net is much better. I'm surprised how little uproar 
(actually total silence) there was here in the Netherlands when they rounded 
up a bunch of alleged Islamic terrorists who had threatened a right wing 
politician.
They were caught thanks to their ISP's logs AND information from MicroSoft 
Americaunbelievable in all senses!

>
> You MUST be behind a router, though, preferably with at least an SPI
> firewall!

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Re: [newbie] (OT) I hate to be asking this... (Windows Related)

2004-12-02 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 02 December 2004 20:46, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> i gave mine away to a windows user (where it worked fine [xp]) when it
> locked up 9.2 as soon as i plugged it into the usb port.

My laptop did that too every now and then.
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Re: [newbie] Windows "Security"

2004-12-02 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 02 December 2004 21:30, Simon Roberts wrote:
> > From: "H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> ...
>
> > On Thursday 02 December 2004 10:26, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> > > Maybe I'm paranoid, but after that experience we don't allow her
> > > Windows box contact with anything outside her room.
> >
> > You are;) Confined to the LAN can't really hurt can it, especially with
> > static IP and a dedicated router/firewall.
>
> I broadly agree that if you have a simple firewall (the typical NAT setup
> is probably enough) between your windows and the big bad world, you're not
> going to be too badly off. But, and it's a big but, the thing this doesn't
> address is the horrors of "ordinary users" using email and web-browsing.
> These horrors are compounded by the default configuration of many of the
> tools they use (notably IE and Outlook). These things will, by default,
> download and execute various things you probably didn't want. This is
> compounded by the average user's response to the typical security warning
> which they read as:

Which is why one should confine them to the LAN-only. At least that way they 
can share files locally. With DHCP turned off and the configured gateway 
pointing to some other box that isn't really a gateway.you'll be safe 
enough;)

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Re: [newbie] (OT) I hate to be asking this... (Windows Related)

2004-12-02 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 02 December 2004 20:22, Randall D. Hobbs wrote:
> Actually, they do. My boss and I both have Sandisk Mini Cruzers (256 megs),
> and they work like a charm:

Thought as much, that's why I asked.

I mean how far can any vendor f**k_up a vfat formatted chip connected to a USB 
plug?
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Re: [newbie] (OT) I hate to be asking this... (Windows Related)

2004-12-02 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 02 December 2004 20:11, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> sandisk mini cruzer's do not work

Do you know why not?
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Re: [newbie] (OT) I hate to be asking this... (Windows Related)

2004-12-02 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 02 December 2004 10:26, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Maybe I'm paranoid, but after that experience we don't allow her
> Windows box contact with anything outside her room.

You are;) Confined to the LAN can't really hurt can it, especially with static 
IP and a dedicated router/firewall.

Then install putty on it and everything should be fine over ssh.
>
> BTW : Do you know a USB memory stick (about 512 MB) that works with
> Linux ?

As far as I've experienced, they all work.



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Re: [newbie] (OT) I hate to be asking this... (Windows Related)

2004-12-02 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 02 December 2004 09:57, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Now, my daughter uses her Windows box completely disconnected from
> everything.  When she wants something from the net, she uses her
> account on my Mandrake box and transport it via floppy or CD to her
> box. (Maybe a USB memory stick could come in handy here ?)

Sounds like a good reason to get samba up and running on your Mdk box;)
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Re: [newbie] Where are the compilers etc.?

2004-12-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 01 December 2004 10:08, Simon Roberts wrote:
> Greetings all, I have probably missed something obvious, as I fear this is
> a really simple question:
>
> I've installed Mandrake 10.1, and was attempting to build some software on
> it that demands glib.h. I can see that glib2 is installed, but there's no
> header file for it anywhere on the system.
>
> I fetched the most recent glib2 source distribution and tried to compile
> it, but it complains that I must have gettext too. I fetched that and tried
> to compile it, and it complains that it can't find the g++ compiler (or any
> other C++ compiler for that matter). I looked around, and it's telling the
> truth, the gcc compiler is in place, but there's nothing for g++.
>
> I used the three disk "community" edition set for 10.1, and I told the
> little config screen that I wanted the development tools, compilers,
> documentation, well, everything on that dialog box actually, and the glib,
> glib2, and glib-devel rpms are all installed, but still no glib.h and no
> gcc.
>
> Can anyone tell me what I have missed please?
>
> Cheers,
> Simon

Did you install your kernel sources?you need those!

Do "uname -r" to find out what kernel you're running and get the fitting 
kernel-source package.. NOT the srpm!
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Re: [newbie] digikam Sony P73 set up

2004-11-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn


-Original Message-
From:  Martin Hardie
Date:  30.11.04 10:14
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj:  Re: [newbie] digikam Sony P73 set up

On Tuesday 30 Nov 2004 09:45, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> tail -f /var/log/messages


HJ I did the tail and then turned the camera on but nothing happened

hmmm

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Re: [newbie] digikam Sony P73 set up

2004-11-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
You need unplug and replug the USB plug.


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Re: [newbie] digikam Sony P73 set up

2004-11-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 09:48, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> So maybe there is some ghost with root priviliges in my box ?

yep, "supermount" is...unless you disable it. You knew that didn't you?;)

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Re: [newbie] digikam Sony P73 set up

2004-11-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 30 November 2004 09:24, Martin Hardie wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have just migrated from RH9 to Mandrake 10. Now at least I can install
> digikam!! I am having trouble setting up my camera, a SonyP73.
>
> I have selected it as a mass storage usb as it is not listed as a supported
> camera
> I have made a /mnt/camera
> but I dont think the fstab setting I found in the digikam handbooks is the
> right one as I dont have a sda1 on my system
>
>
> these are the instructions i had but althoug the camera says it is
> connected i cant see anything:
>
> Make a directory where you can mount the camera:
>  mkdir /mnt/camera; chmod 666 /mnt/camera
> Try mounting the camera now:
>  mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera
> If no errors show up, then you have performed all the steps correctly. To
> verify everything is right, point you file manager to /mnt/camera and you
> should be able to see the folder/pictures on the camera
> Add an entry to /etc/fstab for the mount point:
>  /dev/sda1   /mnt/camera   auto   defaults,user,noauto   0 0
>
>
> If anyone has any ideas I would appreciate them
>
> Thanks
> Martin

As su/root run "tail -f /var/log/messages" in a console. Then plug in your 
camera and you should see what adress it gets appointed in /etc/fstab i.e. 
sda1 or sdb1 or whatever.

It should "automagically" get mounted including an entry in /mnt/  
something along the lines of:/mnt/removable or /mnt/camera.
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Re: [newbie] Getting win98 back

2004-11-29 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 29 November 2004 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The map commands make Windows think that your second drive is your first
> drive.
> Mikkel

On most of the newer BIOS'es you can change the boot order of IDE1 or 
2that way you can boot yer W98 too. Lilo on IDE1 and winboot on IDE2 mbr
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Re: [newbie] Easy URPMI no longer "takes"

2004-11-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 28 November 2004 18:38, Jack wrote:
> For some strange reason, I can no longer update my media with easyurpmi.
>
> It seems to take when I run the necessary commands from root, even
> giving me messages that "contrib" has been added to media, etc.  But
> when I go to the media manager, they (plf, etc.) don't show up, and I've
> done a random sampling of the programs offered for install, and they all
> only originate from the original cd's.
>
> I've done this many times before.  I recently re-installed, and cannot
> understand why it won't do it now...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> - Jack
Lot's of the plf-mirrors are easily swamped by too much traffic. Prolly 
plf-source didn't get added i.e. the hdlist wasn't found.

Try add the plf source manually (on the CML)and keep a sharp eye on the 
messages you see!  That way you'll know it worked or didn't.

Try different mirrors if some don't work or seem very slow.
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Re: [newbie] Xfce 4.2 on Mandrake 9.1

2004-11-25 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 25 November 2004 08:06, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 08:00:50 +0100
>
> Anders Lind wrote:
> > you are correct there I suppose...the buildorder for the rpm's are the
> > same as the buildorder for 4.0.6?
>
> If you are installing via rpm the build order has nothing to do with it.
>
> If you are speaking of the Order in which I build the rpms, I have done
> it so many times I could do it in my sleep.
>
> If you are running 4.0.6, whether you are using rpms from my site or
> those from a Mdk mirror you are still Using My rpms as I uploaded both.
>
>
>
> Charles

It has to be said:

"urpmi --media eslrahc --auto-select --force" works a dream:-D
Wouldn't run it any other way.

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Re: [newbie] no eth0 when I do ifconfig

2004-11-25 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 25 November 2004 00:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
> I recently installed Mandrakelinux on a PPC Beige G3 (Mac). When I
> installed it the installer detected the ethernet card and allowed me to
> configure it. The computer is inside a small network behind a router with a
> DSL connection. I gave it a static IP, entered subnet, gateway, and DNS
> servers. However, the computer is now invisible in the network. When it
> boots up I get an error about the localhost saying that the IP has been
> taken by another device or interface. When I do ifconfig, it only shows me
> the loopback interface (lo), nothing else, no eth0 at all.

What static IP did you give it? It shouldn't be 127.0.0.1 and your error 
message has the sound of it that you did.

> It's interesting to see that I get another error about USB failing. I have
> no USB in that machine. Can someone tell me what I need to do? I'm familiar
> with FreeBSD, so I'm not such a newbie. Thanks

Well you could just try "ifconfig eth0 static_IP_here up" and see if it get's 
loaded or what error you get when loading. That way you'll (and we'll) 
know whether it's a bad configuration or the hardware.

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Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru"

2004-11-22 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 22 November 2004 23:38, Lanman wrote:
> Either it's a jumper, it was never there in the first place or Asus
> forgot to include it in subsequent BIOS updates. As previously
> mentioned, I am keeping a large hammer nearby in case of emergency or
> extreme frustration.

Heh, try formating and writing to MBR whilst having the thing perched on the 
top story window-sill...It's been known too work;)

I've got a mate who just chucks these things overboard when they don't work 
("over the wall" we call that) and since he insists on running Windows, he 
drowned quite a few lately.
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake for novice users?

2004-11-21 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 22 November 2004 00:03, JoeHill wrote:
> so there are flavours of Slack with package management now? If so,
> that's sweet.

Ya ever hear of "slackget"?:)

Never used it, though. I prefer getting me hands dirtysame way I dismantle 
car/boat engines: rebuilding is reversed order of dismantling...and whatever 
is left over, wasn't needed anyway;)
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake for novice users?

2004-11-21 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 21 November 2004 22:26, JoeHill wrote:
> If any distro is likely to 'scare' a newbie, I'd wager it's Slackware or
> Gentoo, certainly not Debian.

Now you've done it
You just touched my first (linux) love; Slackware. I'll beat the daylights out 
of you given half the chance;)

Hahh, I've even still got the huge Walnut Creek "Linux The Advanced Reference" 
book (or is it bible?) right up front in my bookcase. All the Howto's in dead 
tree format...just love the feel of it:)

Slack was my first encounter witj linux that actually stuck (Mdk and Suse 
certainly NOT, at the time)..Check out slack-live or slax: live distro's 
that'll run on anything 386_up. If knoppix or whatever won't run on it, slack 
or slax will! OpenOffice included at all;)
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Re: [newbie] Has anybody attempted to re-add their 10.1 distro sources?

2004-11-20 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 21 November 2004 00:52, Glenn wrote:
> Using "urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom" to add my 10.1
> sources, the CD numbers get screwed up (11, 21, 31, 32, 33, 41, 51, 61,
> etc.)  Anybody run into a fix for this?

Personally, I make a habit of messing up my distro sources or keeping more 
parallel versions and never noticed anything like what you're statingdid 
you try to add that on top of an existing "--distrib" ?

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Re: [newbie] M$ using pirated software

2004-11-20 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 20 November 2004 01:07, Stephen Kühn wrote:
> But now, since Ballmer the Bouncing Bimbo has gotten into IP legalaties
> to fight the GPL/OSS world, they better do something about the skeletons
> roving around in THEIR own closet...

Yep, I always say:
Give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves;-D
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Re: [newbie] Looking for Mr. 'Boot-Guru"

2004-11-20 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 20 November 2004 01:52, Lanman wrote:
> Never let it be said that I don't bring interesting problems to the
> list! This time, the problem makes no sense, unless someone has written
> a boot-sector virus and included it on the Mandrake 10.1 Community CD's.

> and they haven't helped at all. I've installed another new drive and had
> the exact same results.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions or helpful advice? This is just plain
> weird and I'm running out of ideas so I'd appreciate any help the list
> can offer.
>
> TIA
>
> Lanman
> Registered Linux User #190712

Having had a (seagate) drive that always had this (why I never found out, but 
I suspect diskdrake)..No way I could get the boot sector written to:(

 I "solved" that by just "dd" -ing an existing almost similar drive directly 
to it, and editing lilo everytime after.
 As in "dd if=/dev/hda of="/dev/hdb" using "tomsrtbt" , that way the mbr gets 
copied too. Somehow copying the bootsector_only with dd wouldn't do it 
either.
You could try it just to see if the damn thing will boot at all.
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Re: [newbie] anyone have a dwl122 working with 10.1 ppc?

2004-11-19 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 19 November 2004 15:10, lincr wrote:
> So now I am running a network install as before but using the mirrors
> already listed in the installer, rather than my local source.  None of
> the mirrors have my 2.6 kernel modules!  The module tarballs on the
> mirrors are all for the 2.4 kernels.  ???  I browsed the ftp mirrors
> from another machine, and I can't find those 2.6 kernel modules.  

Take a better look, I found them at first go at:

http://ftp.surfnet.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/ppc/media/main/
 
and scroll down to "kernel":)

There's 3 iso ppc-images to be had there too. 

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Re: [newbie] anyone have a dwl122 working with 10.1 ppc?

2004-11-17 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 15:19, Lincoln Rutledge wrote:
> HarM,
>
> That is a great tip!  When I plug in the device under Mandrake, it loads
> the prism2 module, but yeah, iwconfig and ifconfig do nothing.
> Unfortunately neither apropos nor the iwconfig docs helped me.  But I
> will investigate kismet!  Maybe I won't have to compile anything!  It
> seems like building kernels from source has gotten more complicated
> since about 1999, I don't have much luck any more...
>
> Lincoln

I had a link up about a usb card (wl-012 card from sitecom) it's at:
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/triade/linux/wl-012.html ...it's a text-copy of a 
page by a sitecom employee which has disapeared since a while.

That was using a 2.4 kernel (and a different device) but there should be some 
usable stuff in there about configuring and stuff. Take a look and see what 
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Re: [newbie] Install problem

2004-11-17 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 03:39, Aron Smith wrote:
> I have aquired a Compaq laptop Armada 7400 unfortunely it does not have 
> cdrom drive any way i can get mandrake on this puppy
> I'd really like to do it  'cause the price was right (free)

3 options:

1)Over a network connection using the network floppy (on the first cdrom in 
the "images" directory) read the README's on the install CD for further 
info.

2) Take out the HD and install it using one with a CD-player then put it back.

3)get an external Cd-rom via pcmcia, usb or par_port.
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Re: [newbie] anyone have a dwl122 working with 10.1 ppc?

2004-11-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 22:09, Lincoln Rutledge wrote:
>  I have a dwl122 Dlink 802.11b usb dongle and an iBook.  It's a prism2
>  chipset, supposed to be supported by linux wlan-ng.  Does anyone have
>  this working on Mandrake?  I just installed 10.1 and it didn't
>  automatically work, which did not surprise me.  In the past I have
>  tried
>  building a kernel and linux-wlan-ng modules under Debian-PPC and
>  Fedora3Test2 on PPC.  I have never gotten a module to load.
>  The Dlink works pretty well under OSX, although the driver is buggy.
>  If no one has it working I'll go away and Let It Be...
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Lincoln

If it's a prism2 set it should work...but not as easy as prism1.
Personally I don't have any experience with the set you've got so I'm not 100% 
sure:(
The prism2_usb module is very flaky and a plug&pray nightmare IMO, but it can 
work, be it rudimentary. Somehow it won't listen to commands through iwconfig 
or ifconfig but "kismet" can get it it to work with the same 
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Re: [newbie] Stop Kaffeine from autostarting

2004-11-16 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 16 November 2004 01:20, Jack wrote:
> Lately, Kaffeine has been autostarting every time I boot into Mandrake
> 10.1 official.  Where can I look to turn this annoying process off?
> (The Mandrake equivalent to DOS's autoexec.bat, and Windows Startup
> folder)...
>
> -  Jack
Use  and  to stop it ...or ,  when kaffeine is running. 
If you use  and  or clicking on the  cross kaffeine 
puts itself in your dock and subsequently gets restarted every time you log 
in.

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Re: [newbie] XFce4.2 RC1

2004-11-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 15 November 2004 22:38, Stephen Kühn wrote:
> (What - ya ground yer boat again?)(g)

Yep, nail on the head;)
This time at a wharf and catching up on maintainance i.e. I've had a hell of a 
good year and won't be lifting a finger until 2005:)

Welll, maybe take on a trip around Xmas to have an excuse to be 
awayjust the kids and the wife and nobody else along:)
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake for novice users?

2004-11-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 15 November 2004 23:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Strangely, he went back to using windows - he didn't like having to enter a
> password when booting up!

You don't have to if you don't want to..I suddenly realized how horribly 
wrong that could go after I thought my laptop had been lost.

Luckily, it got brought back the next dayyep, that's right! Honesty is 
still around.
I'd left it on a bus in the city of Ghent (Belgium) and never expected to see 
it again.it wasn't even an old one. Just about 2 weeks old and NOT 
configured as I would've wanted it but enough to hurt me if somebody wanted 
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Re: [newbie] XFce4.2 RC1

2004-11-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 15 November 2004 11:46, Stephen Kühn wrote:
> SO, if anyone wants to give it a go, you can find it at:
>
> http://www.xfce.org

On my own stuff (like me personal laptop) I wouldn't run anything else;)

I haven't upgraded in a while (being very satisfied) so I'll take your word 
---Yep, you heard that right!;)--- for it and do a download/upgrade.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Linux not yet ready for primetime

2004-11-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 12 November 2004 00:01, et wrote:
> On Thursday 11 November 2004 17:54, Jack wrote:
> > 4 - I use voice recognition extensively (Dragon NS and IBM ViaVoice).  I
> > don't believe this even exists for Linux.
>
> viavoice was included in the powerpack for version 7.2 and 8.0, and worked
> much better than the same time frame viavoice available for winders, and if
> you were lucky enough to have gotten it then, the same version still
> installs and works, however it was not 'free' software then, nor is it now.
> but I dictated this letter with it...
>
> ya shoulda asked...
Et,
How did you get those rpms to work?
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake Linux not yet ready for primetime

2004-11-12 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 12 November 2004 16:41, Greg Meyer wrote:
> > I know what you mean, I'm still on 9.1 cause I don't want to mess with
> > upgrading on account of server stuff. Who on the list would win the
> > prize for running the oldest version of MDK?
>
> I've got a two 9.0 boxes running samba and a pdfwriting script here in the
> office.

I'm willing to wager there's still 7.2 servers out there...:)

Me, I just took a (back-up) webserver apart that was running 
Slackware7.1.still in perfect health:)
I plan on upgrading it to Slack10.0 nowdon't really like Mdk for server 
stuff (at least not outside the LAN); too much too losely preconfigured for 
my liking.

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Re: [newbie] Setup NFS access?

2004-11-07 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 08 November 2004 02:04, Eric Scott wrote:
> On Sunday 07 November 2004 17:53, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > On Monday 08 November 2004 00:32, Eric Scott wrote:
> > > Well sharing home direcories won't help me.  I need the html directory.
> >
> > So what are you trying to share?
> >
> > /var/www/html sounds more like a webserver to mewhich could be
> > reached by:"http://adres_of_your_box_here:80"; depending on what webserver
> > software you're running, or from where you're connecting from if you've
> > got a firewall..don't need any sharing there!
>
> Right, I'm trying to share the web server directory read/write for easy
> remote website editing.  It seems like it'd be much more convenient over
> NFS than FTP or SCP.  If you've got a better idea I'm open for tips.  My
> I-net connection has like a 4k upload rate, and editing over SSH/VNC is
> starting to become a real chore.  I just got FTP running though, which I
> will need for a few clients, and can live with it for the present, but as a
> web host administrator I'd like to have NFS access to the entire http
> server directory.
>   Thanx,
>ES

Well frankly, I've not discovered a better way than "ssh" yet.

There might be a slight speed gain over NOT_encrypting but that surely doesn't 
weigh up to the security ssh gives.

Don't try to use vnc at those speeds...it's just too damn slow, as actualy all 
X-forwarding is too!
Get used to the commandline and you'll be administrating at a lot lower speed 
if need be:)
Another speed gain would/could also be keeping a mirrored copy of your remote 
websites locally and then using "rsync" to keep them updated (in sync) -- be 
it in secure_mode or not.but that would be a different thread;)

NFS is certainly NOT the way to go for easy/fast web maintainance, that was 
meant for local (LAN) stuff.
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Re: [newbie] Setup NFS access?

2004-11-07 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 08 November 2004 00:32, Eric Scott wrote:
> Well sharing home direcories won't help me.  I need the html directory.

So what are you trying to share?

/var/www/html sounds more like a webserver to mewhich could be reached 
by:"http://adres_of_your_box_here:80"; depending on what webserver software 
you're running, or from where you're connecting from if you've got a 
firewall..don't need any sharing there!
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Re: [newbie] Setup NFS access?

2004-11-07 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 07 November 2004 23:45, Eric Scott wrote:
> /home/eric      *(rw)
> /var/www/html   *(rw)
>
> It says "permission denied" when I try to access.  Any help?

Just open /home/eric with konqueror and rightclick the directory you want to 
share, and go down to the bottom of the menu and select "share".
If you haven't configured filesharing yet (be it nfs or samba) you can click 
on  button there or (if you have); click on the 
"shared" radio button.

That's about it...it can't get much harder IMO;)

About /var/www/html; I'm not so sure that's shareable in the nfs way, I 
useally restrict myself to /home/triade files for safety's sake.


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Re: [newbie] help on NFS!

2004-11-07 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 07 November 2004 23:09, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote:
> The permissions are OK!

That still leaves the question whether "root" can read the files 
unanswered.if root can't read them certainly no user will be able to, no 
matter whatever you do !
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Re: [newbie] help on NFS!

2004-11-07 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 07 November 2004 07:39, Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I´ve followed all the instructions on NFS- how-to found at google.
>
> I can mount the directory from mach1 into mach2 (mount -f shows it!) but I
> don´t have access to directory reading.
>
> Using mc  I got the msg: ¨Cannot read the direstory content¨
>
> Any help?
>
> TIA
>
> Ricardo Castanho
Can root read the contents?
If so, check that permissions are set right.
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Re: [newbie] HELP...HELP...O.T.

2004-11-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 01 November 2004 21:25, ali tig wrote:
> i will try to send the massage.

heehaw, this is inspector Clouseau's comeback, wonderful;-D
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Re: [newbie] Ext. USB drive / high CPU load

2004-11-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 01 November 2004 21:44, Miark wrote:
> I'm using a USB 2.0 external harddrive. It's actual
> performance is fine, but what's bothersome is that
> if I do something disk intensive, such as copy a
> huge file or rename file in a big directory, my CPU
> meter hits 100%. Is this typical?
>
> Miark

On my box it is!
I blame it on vfat...everybody needs a scapegoat now and then;)
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Re: [newbie] root password lost

2004-11-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 01 November 2004 15:46, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> 3)enter "linux int 1" at he prompt and hit 
that shoulde be "linux init 1" , sorry.
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Re: [newbie] Partition resized but remains

2004-11-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 01 November 2004 11:33, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I have a spare space on my hdd, so I resized one of my partition (it's on
> the last partition hda10). Using MCC, I can resized it with no problem,
> formatted it, the fstab also modified. But, after reboot, I noticed that
> the free space in that partition is still in the old one (2GB, whereas
> should be 7GB). Any idea what I'm missing?
> Thanks.

I re-read your post many times and don't really understand...could you post 
the content of "/etc/fstab" an "df -h" command?

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Re: [newbie] root password lost

2004-11-01 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 01 November 2004 14:35, M.Schild wrote:
> Hi,
> a friend who has just tried mandrake 10 for his first time on Linux cannot
> remeber his root password. Any way he can retrieve it?
> TIA
> Maryse

1)Boot the box
2) when the lilo-boot menu appears hit 
3)enter "linux int 1" at he prompt and hit 
4)Wait until mdk runs i.e. a prompt appears and type "passwd"
5)enter the new password when prompted.
6)Promise to NEVER hi-jack somebody else's thread again and rejoice.
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Re: [newbie] cdrom busy....not umounting

2004-10-31 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 31 October 2004 20:34, Bill Winegarden wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm running LM10 Community on an Inspiron 9100. A fresh install is working
> 98%. However, the cdrom does not seem to want to let go of any cdrom once I
> view it's contents in Konq.
> As root, I get the error
>
> umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy
>
> It seems that supermount may not be operating correctly. fstab follows
>
> /dev/hda5 / reiserfs notail,noatime 1 1
> none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
> umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
> /dev/hda2 /mnt/win_c ntfs umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,ro 0 0
> /dev/hda7 /mnt/win_d vfat umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
> none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
>
> Does anything seem out of place?
>
> tia,
> Bill W.

Close konq and it'll prolly unmount.
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Re: [newbie] Command deleting one of two equal lines in a file

2004-10-31 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 31 October 2004 11:49, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> >>>Hi.
> >>>
> >>>Does it exist a linux command (or a sequence of commands)
> >>>that looks into a file
> >>>and delete one line if there are two equal?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Rodolfo
> >>
> >>Or simply deletes strings within several files within a directory? [
> >>Similar to Find and Replace only across multiple documents at the same
> >>time. ]
> >>
> >>--
> >>Regards
> >>
> >>SnapafunFrank
> >
> >No, I mean deleting one of two any equal lines within a file,
> > automatically.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Rodolfo
>
> Sorry  Rodolfo, but I was adding to your thread as it is similar to my
> own  requirement. Hope someone here can answer both requests.
>
> SnapafunFrank

Looks like a clear case calling for a "scratch your own itch" script. Bash 
should be able to do it all...I don't have time to sort it out for you guys.
I'm not deft enough to just swing it out of my sleeve...maybe somebody else 
takes pity.

Or do some reading yourselfs...roll up 'em sleeves,heh;)
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Re: [newbie] Importing Lotus123 data.

2004-10-31 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 31 October 2004 10:45, John Layt wrote:
> I find it strange nothing in Linux does booklet printing, that's just
> criminal!  It's just the sort of thing DTP was created for.

"ps2book" might just be what you're looking for;)
It's a little script that came with some other package that I don't remember.

It works fairly well IMO.
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Re: [newbie] (OT) Reguarding reply-to and the gmail address

2004-10-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 30 October 2004 22:43, Amy wrote:
> Hey everyone!
>
> I've noticed a lot of people have been complaining about the reply-to
> address issue with gmail. I think I've fixed it on mine. If gmail
> users go into settings, there are two options for the reply-to, their
> gmail address, and a blank field which one is expected to put
> something in. Well, gmail seems to have accepted me selecting the
> field without filling it in with anything... if anyone would like to
> confirm this works correctly (try replying to my message here), we can
> find out if this is indeed the correct solution to the problem and
> start sharing it with other gmail users on the list. ^_^
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Amy
Nope!!
Doesn't work:(
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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 30 October 2004 16:15, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Well HarM, I've got a T1 connection here, so the download of exactly
> 302 packages took about 15 minutes, at a server uploading at about
> 400 kB/sec (average).  But YMMV.

Mine maxes at 60Kb download...so that's simple arithmetic:)
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Re: [newbie] Installing 10.1 Official without ISO cds

2004-10-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 30 October 2004 15:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On Saturday 30 October 2004 15:15, Paul Smith wrote:
> > Dear All
> >
> > Is it possible to install Mandrake 10.1 Official without the ISO
> > cds? Or should I wait until the ISO cds are available for
> > downloading?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Paul
>
> The aboslute easiest way is to use the iso's.  They are not
> available for download yet, but you can get them (4 CDs) here :
> http://linuxcentral.com/catalog/?prod_code=L000-296&id=C1CQEBKnWD3C
> 6
>
> But, here is what I did :
>
> 1. As root, edit the file "/etc/mandrakelinux-release" and change
> Community to Official. Save it.
>
> 2. Download kernel-2.6.8.1-12mdk form a mirror .I used :
> ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/official
> /10.1/i586/media/main/
>
> 3. Install it alongside your old one. Re-boot into the new one.
>
> 4. As root : "urpmi.removemedia -a"
>
> 5. Go here : http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/
>
> 6. Define your sources for 10.1 Official, and proceed as
>  instructed.
>
> 7. As root : "urpmi.update -a && urpmi --auto-select".
>
> 8. As root : "rpm --rebuilddb && update-menus -a -n && udpdatedb"
>
> That's all.  When comparing my new rpms to the ones on the mirrors,
> it seems that I run 10.1. Official.
>
> I actually don't know if step 8 is required, but it won't harm.
>
> HTH
> Kaj Haulrich.

Kaj,
How long did it take at which (average) download speed?

That's what's been stopping me until now...the prospect of looking at a 
useless box hogging my bandwidth for a week or so.
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Re: [newbie] Experiences Updating a 10.0 Box to 10.1 Using URPMI

2004-10-30 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 30 October 2004 05:48, Greg Meyer wrote:
> When you run urpmi --auto-select, the first thing urpmi does is update
> itself and any dependent packages and then restart itself.  Part of this
> initial round is the glibc, the core of your system.  I highly recommend
> that you reboot after doing this.  I had a lot of packages not install
> properly after this and I think it is because of parts of the old glibc
> being resident in memory.  I solved the problem by removing and
> reinstalling most of the userspace packages, but this took more time than
> doing a clean install.  I think I could have avoided this with a reboot.

This is also avoided by "upgrading" with the install routine on CD1. Downer is 
that it replaces the existing urpmi database as opposed to just being added 
as a media-source.luckily there's still easyurpmi:)
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Re: [newbie] First time posting for advice.

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Friday 29 October 2004 00:43, geoff wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm a very new newbie and running Mandrake 10.0 on my laptop sharing drive
> with XP. I'm now only using xp for Quickbooks. I love Mandrake
> I downloaded Fluxbox and unpacked it with tar then configure, make and make
> install..
> Everything went well. On reboot, to see if it had installed, it didn't come
> up but for a second or two I could see different icons in the task bar then
> up came the usual ones. I am using KDE.
> Can you please advise me where I  went wrong? Simple language please till I
> learn more.
> Regards
> Geoff

Simple answer: As a newby stick to Mandrake .rpm's or expect to be rolling up 
sleeves and getting hands dirty.!
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Re: [newbie] For all with usb problems

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 22:48, Stew Benedict wrote:
> But...
>
> I see people saying they have problems even at runlevel 3 and with
> different window managers, so I can't really imagine kdebase has much to
> with it.

So did I, I thought...so let's get this straight.

Did anybody "telinit "" into level 3 or boot into into "init 3" and test this 
behaviour??
I can't I've no real probs (yet)
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 19:57, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I haven't tried Gnome.  I gather that Kaj found the same problem there.  If
> that had not been so I would have felt that it was definitely kde-related.
>
> Another thing that puzzles me, is that the first time, when I accessed as
> root, I could see all the files in konqueror.  I did not manage that again.
>   Is there a significance in that on that occasion I accessed as root first
> - before trying to access as user?
>
> I don't know whether any of this helps
>
> Anne

This looks like the KDE bug that Kaj was pointed to...the gnome part could be 
puzzling except: if calling a KDE app. like konq or kedit.

I had gathered he had the same experiences on runlevel 3 but I'm not sure 
anymore.

Here's the bug again:
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023

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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 16:36, Tom Brinkman wrote:
>     Had one for years ;)   BTW, did you get the (free to members)
> book the Free Software Foundation sent out recently, "Free
> Culture"?  Interesting reading an I'm only about 10% into the
> book.

I have and have gotten as far as you. Just need one nice quiet evening to get 
into it again.those are sparse:)

>
>     For those that don't know what we're talking about, visit
> http://www.gnu.org/   and please consider becoming a Associate
> Member. Your MandrakeLinux is Linux (the kernel), but the rest of
> it (99%) is GNU software. They need your support just as much as
> the Mandrake Club does.

Heheh;) I've been in evangelist mode a few times too..reading the book 
makes one realize how important these issues realy are.
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 15:09, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> The kde-mandrake team replied that it is a dupe of another, well
> known and fixed bug in kdebase.  I wonder if it is true, because it
> affects Gnome as well - on my system, that is.
>
> The bug is here :
>
> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12023

Took a look at that and it certainly looks partially the same.
If you indeed booted into level 3 and had the same problem it would be 
surprising indeed if KDE was the culprit, though.
Running "top" could've enlightened that.

So what happened? Boot into init 3 and check again.that way you can 
file a bug report (if it is a bug) that won't get KDE related.

To install-testrun the base package do "urpmi --test kde-base.123mdk.rpm" (or 
whatever the packages name is) and see if it gives dependancy-hell or not:)
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:18, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
>
> 
>
> > On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> > > However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3,
> > > mount the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over.  Then
> > > reboot to cool down the CPU.  Circumstantial, I think.
> >
> > doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can
> > telinit 3 or 5 again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot.
>
> Telinit 3 works OK, but the CPU is running like mad, nevertheless.
> Going back into runlevel 5 doesn't stop it. Only a reboot.

I meant going into "single-user mode/failsafe" alternatively you could boot 
into falisafe and try connecting the device in there.

>
> > Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in
> > respect to certain modules 2.6 has.
>
> It certainly did.
>
> > Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs "at
> > boot" in the   department is what might resolv
> > something.
>
> well, I don't have devfs.  According to some bugzilla reports, quite
> the opposite is needed.  Warly posted something in his notes on
> 10.1, saying "disable devfs, enable udev". Confusing.

Yep, but it's not easy to pinpoint what's happeninghence my propositions

> > BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera?
>
> Nope.  Keeps running at 99% .

In telinit 1 too?
BTW, what does "top" say as to what's hogging the cpu?
Try killing the culprit.

> Boot into Knoppix, where the camera shows nicely as another
> harddisk, ftp the photos to my website and - being back in
> Mandrake, ftp them home again.  Where there is a will, there is a
> way...

I always boot into slax or slackware.it's a lot faster at boot time;)
Always carry a miniCD with Slax on it with me..there's even smaller which 
fit on a credit card CD (<50Mb) like the FreeSoftwareFoundation membership 
cardhint, hint, nudge, nudge! ;)

Alas those creditcardCD's always break in my wallet on the long run:(

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Re: [newbie] trojan?

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 11:12, M.Schild wrote:
> Sorry, I should have been more explicite but it was early in the morning.
> The article is about a trojan aimed at Fedora.
> go to:  http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1682854,00.asp
> Maryse

It's a silly scam but wil prolly show that even among fedora users there's a 
number of dorks that'll believe anything blindly.
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> However, I can retrieve my photos by booting into runlevel 3, mount
> the camera as /dev/sda1 and copy the files over.  Then reboot to
> cool down the CPU.  Circumstantial, I think.

doing telint 1 should also resolve that, after which you can telinit 3 or 5 
again. I.e. you shouldn't need to reboot.

Installing 2.4 was bound to give you problems, especially in respect to 
certain modules 2.6 has.

Going into mcc and disabling udev as well as enabling devfs "at boot" in the 
  department is what might resolv something.

BTW, doesn't the box quiten down when removing the camera?

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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:38, Anne Wilson wrote:
> I haven't got around to changing to udev yet, so it may not be a factor at
> all.  I have 2.6.1-12 with supermount, and I'm still seeing the problem.

When kaj ran "tail -f /var/log/messages" whilst plugging in the camera there 
were some strange entries on sda's size and sort.
What does your's say?

>From what I've seen until now, I'd eliminate "supermount" as the culprit.
I take this a new 10.1 install you're talking about as 10.0 used devfs and 
keeps it when you upgrade

I haven't got my camera here at this box, but for comparison here's what I get 
when attaching my USB stick (which works exactly the same as my camera):
Oct 28 10:52:54 triade1 su(pam_unix)[7057]: session opened for user root by 
triade(uid=501)
Oct 28 10:53:04 triade1 kernel: usb 2-2.1: new full speed USB device using 
address 3
Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: SCSI subsystem initialized
Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage 
devices
Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel:   Vendor: Generic   Model: USB Flash Disk
Rev: 2.00
Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
Oct 28 10:53:05 triade1 kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 scsi.agent[7145]: disk 
at /devices/pci:00/:00:1f.4/usb2/2-2/2-2.1/2-2.1:1.0/host0/0:0:0:0
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda: Unit Not Ready, sense:
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Current : sense key Unit Attention
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Additional sense: Not ready to ready change, 
medium may have changed
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed.
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda : status=1, message=00, host=0, driver=08
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Current sd: sense key Unit Attention
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: Additional sense: Not ready to ready change, 
medium may have changed
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Oct 28 10:53:06 triade1 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through

***
This has the effect of it not getting mounted or being able to mount it, I'll 
spare you the details:)
pulling the stick and reinserting it again works fine with the following lines 
leading to success:

Oct 28 10:57:50 triade1 kernel: usb 2-2.1: new full speed USB device using 
address 6
Oct 28 10:57:51 triade1 kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage 
devices
Oct 28 10:57:51 triade1 kernel:   Vendor: Generic   Model: USB Flash Disk
Rev: 2.00
Oct 28 10:57:51 triade1 kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: SCSI device sda: 255488 512-byte hdwr sectors 
(131 MB)
Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through
Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, 
channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Oct 28 10:57:52 triade1 scsi.agent[7509]: disk 
at /devices/pci:00/:00:1f.4/usb2/2-2/2-2.1/2-2.1:1.0/host1/1:0:0:0
Oct 28 10:57:53 triade1 perl: drakupdate_fstab called with --auto 
--add /dev/sda1
*

Frankly I always run tail -f /var/log/messages when expecting trouble with USB 
that way I know where to find the thing...plugging into another port 
might call it /dev/sb1 or whatever.
I've got quite a few devices on USB like an external DVD/CD-burner, gps 
reciever, palm device, USB stick, camera, wireless card, mouse, printer and 
keyboard.
All work but some do sometimes need re-initiation like the usb-stick above.

Be sure to disable harddrake at boot time if these devices aren't permanently 
connected. If you don't change your system around  a lot you don't need it 
anyway...just a waste of time at boot.
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Re: [newbie] Copy from old hard drive

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 10:07, Russell Butler wrote:
> I can boot from systemrescue CD with all three drives, but keeps wanting
> to boot from /hdg5. I tried copying lilo.conf from hde3 to hdg5, but of
> course that failed as /boot on hdg5 did not fit. I have ports and cables
> to run 4 IDE drives (Raid mobo), but can boot successfully only with two
> drives. I presume it is something in the MBR, but is there any way to
> overwrite this to ALWAYS boot from /hde3

Boot into linux (hdg5) and add the boot option linux-new( hde3) as a new entry 
pointing it to that hde3 .AND: be sure that the /etc/fstab on hde3 has 
been edited accordlingly i.e. pointing to your new partitions not the old 
ones!

Then boot into your new linux entry (hde3) and work your way from there:)
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 00:21, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Well H.J. my palm are WET.  I know the feeling of messing around
> in /boot and lilo !
>
> Right now I installed the 2.6.8.1-10 kernel, with no evident errors.
> But the camera still behaves like in the -12 kernel.  So no go
> here.  Next, I'll try to install the 2.4 kernel.  Hopefully that'll
> change things to the better.
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

Are you running devfs or udev?
It should show at bootime if you're running devfs as udev will then be 
disabled.

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Re: [newbie] Hard disk clone

2004-10-28 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Thursday 28 October 2004 09:17, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> I'm late to this thread. Care to list the four commands mentioned?
>
> --
> Regards
>
> SnapafunFrank

"mount", ""find", "cpio" and "lilo" :)
Here's the howto(sort of) .. I copied the lines from my first mail in this
 thread:
What I would do in a situation like this:

1)Create the needed partitions on the new disk --- let's assume it's /dev/hdb 
and the partions are similar to /dev/hda ..only bigger, using fdisk or 
cfdiskand make those active or bootable that need to be.

2)unmounting all mounted partitions except / from which you're 
running...Optionally you can do "telinit 1" as su/root which will achieve the 
same.

3) mount the partitions you want to copy to, on ready made directories in /mnt 
(i.e. /mnt/disk2, /mnt/disk3, etc..) 

4)Then copy all the partitions to hdb going into the toplevel of each 
partition (excepting /, the root partition) and type (as su/root): find . 
-xdev | cpio -padm /mnt/diskx  (where x is the partition/mount n° needed)

5)Get some coffee as that'll take a while;)

6)reboot using a "liveCD" or "mandrake rescue mode" i.e. run in ram.

7)mount your old root partition (/) as well as your new one some where 
on /mnt/ (i.e. /mnt/oldroot /mnt/newroot°

8)cd into /mnt/oldroot: cd /mnt/oldroot and repeat the "find . -xdev | cpio 
-padm /mnt/newroot" (not the quotes and mind the . !)

9)Drink some more coffee and edit /mnt/newroot/etc/lilo.conf 
and /mnt/newroot/etc/fstab appropiately ...then 
edit /mnt/oldroot/etc/lilo.conf and add a new entry there called linux-new 
(or such) pointing to your newroot partition (this way you can back out if 
something goes wrong!)

10)reboot into your old system (there is a way of running "lilo" on a not 
running / , but I never looked how) and run "lilo", and reboot again ;( where 
you now should see "linux-new" as an added option in your lilo 
bootmenu.and boot into that.

11) If all goes well you can then remove/delete your old hda partitions 
physically and from lilo.conf

Bear in mind that I myself have never done this with a ntfs or vfat partition 
so (triple)check those thouroughly before removing/deleting the old stuff!!!
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:56, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> Wish me luck.
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you...as it sounds like a mess on your box 
right nowsweaty palms et all, heh?:)

Don't uninstall/re-install too quickly though. Sounds sort of windosy to me to 
be a real help.just install the kernels and let them get added to lilo.

Check that they're pointing to the right kernels/initrd's though! I 
somehow I allways have to get my hands dirty there. Got mdk 10.1, 
slackware10.0 and Suse running comfortably on this box though, booting 
through lilo.
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:41, Tom Brinkman wrote:
>     -10mdk is the kernel that 10.1 CE was released with.  So if
> you've got 10.1CE CD's you've got it. I went lookin for -10 on
> the mirrors, specifically 'kernel-source' but didn't find it. In
> my situation I'm still tryin to figure out why it makes such a
> difference with my SATA/IDE mix.
>
>    Sorry, like I said, it's a hunch

This raises the question: What's the diff between 2.6.8.1-10 and 2.6.8-12?
Anybody looked into that yet? 10 to 12 can only be a difference in applied 
patches i.e. Mandrake specific.
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Re: [newbie] Digital camera kills MDK 10.1

2004-10-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 23:39, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

> Therefore, I wanted to follow Tom's advice and install the
> 2.6.8.1-10 kernel.  Can't find it anywhere, though.  Even
> rpmfind.net doesn't come up with it.
>
> Maybe I should try the 2.4 kernel for 10.1 ?
>
> Kaj Haulrich.

You could try the 2.4 kernel but that'll have a few other quircks:(
Like Anne said, the 2.6.1-10 kernel should be on the dload discs and if you 
haven't got it I'll be more than happy to put it up for dload for youjust 
say the word:)

Methinks there's something ugly going on between "hotplug" and "udev" on your 
system...so you might consider disabling both and using "devfs" as a service 
at boot instead.
I'm still using 2.6.1-10 (with udev) and thus can't stat your bugit's 
definitely worth investigating though.

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