Re: [newbie-it] Masterizzare un cd misto

2002-07-05 Per discussione Giuseppe Ferruzzi

  Roberto wrote:

Posso creare, utilizzando uno dei programmi di masterizzazione della
mandrake 8.2, un cd audio, che quindi possa essere letto dal normale lettore
cd di uno stereo casalingo o di un automobile, che contenga però anche delle
tracce non audio e quindi dei files?
Mi date qualche dritta?
Grazie.
  


Con X-CD-Roast,  anche se è  ancora in versione test e molte delle sue 
funzionalità non sono state ancora attivate è  potente e supporta la 
funzionalità Burn.proof.  Per l'esecuzione vuole i diritti di root ma 
permette di consentirla anche a utenti specificati o dare permessi anche 
per la masterizzazione via rete. Supporta vari modi di scrittura (DAO, 
TAO per masterizzatori non recentissimi e TAO con Pregap zero ), ti 
permette la combinazione delle tracce, quindi si possono mescolare dati 
normali e audio anche se la possibilità che il tuo lettore HIFI non 
possa leggerlo non è remota, ma non è detto e se sei fortunato ... Le 
premesse sulla carta sono allettanti. Personalmente   sto aspettando che 
mi arrivi il masterizzatore ASUS CRW 4012A (ha il supporto completo per 
linux, così non ho sorprese) appena l'ho installato il primo programma 
da testare a fondo sarà appunto X-CD-Roast.
 
Saluti da Giuseppe.






Re: [newbie-it] Masterizzare un cd misto

2002-07-05 Per discussione Fabio Manunza

Alle 20:46, giovedì 4 luglio 2002, hai scritto:
 ???


 
  cdrdao
  Crea un'immagine del CD (a meno che non sia protetto).

Effettivamente un po' criptico, lo ammetto.
Quasi tutti i cd musicali oggigiorno contengono, oltre alle tracce audio 
(e ci mancherebbe..), anche file dati con foto degli artisti, etc. etc.
Cdrdao è una applicazione che ti permette la copia di questi cd, altrimenti 
impossibile (almeno da quanto ho sperimentato io) con applicazioni quali 
cdrecord (a cui si appoggia, per esempio, x-cdRoast), creando appunto 
un'immagine del cd in dao (disk at once), immagine che successivamente viene 
trasferita così com'è sul cd di destinazione.
Dovresti trovarlo nei cd della distribuzione, assieme a gcdmaster, un front 
end grafico che potrebbe esserti utile nel caso tu non sia abituato alla 
linea di comando; ti consiglio comunque, per le prime volte, di utilizzare 
quest'ultima, senza dimenticare di dare una bella scorta al man.
Nel caso tu voglia invece creartelo dal nulla, ti rimando all'esaustivo 
How-to CD writing How-to, che sicuramente avrai nella documentazione. Per 
quanto riguarda poi l'aspetto pratico, il succitato x-cdRoast potrà venirti 
in aiuto nella selezione delle tracce e dei file dati.
Vale.

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[newbie-it] Microsoft (per Roberto)

2002-07-05 Per discussione CyberPenguin

Dai un'occhiata qua' :-(

http://zeusnews.it/news.php3?cod=1313

Bye
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Re: [newbie-it] montaggio CD - III e ultimo

2002-07-05 Per discussione arwan

Alle 22:02, giovedì 4 luglio 2002, contorcendoti la mente su Re: [newbie-it] 
montaggio CD - III e ultimo, caro nicola hai scritto: 

 Non so che distribuzione usi, probabilmente RedHat o analoga, in quanto è
 un problema analogo a quello trovato da me se come utente comune si vuole
 stabilire una connessione tramite modem via kppp, e solo root può farlo
 tramite password. Se qualcuno ha le idee chiare potrebbe interessare...

Be', idee chiare proprio non direi, pero' se ti consola io uso (con la 
MDK8.2) kppp da utente, senza bisogno di password. Come e perche' non so, ma 
si puo' fare.
Per quanto riguarda mount e spermount, invece, la cosa a me resta un ostacolo 
ancora da saltare... ma ce la faro', un giorno!

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Re: [newbie-it] scelta database richiesta consiglio

2002-07-05 Per discussione miKe

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Il 13:21, giovedì 4 luglio 2002, in merito a [newbie-it]
scelta database richiesta consiglio, paolo brusasco ha
scritto:
 Buongiorno a tutti. vorrei installare un database ad
 uso personale monoutente 
...
 1) possibilmente non scaricare nulla perchè poi non
 voglio impazzire a farlo funzionare

direi MySQL

 2) facilità d'uso

lo piloti pure con staroffice..
e trovi in giro tonnellate di documentazione

 grazie! paolo brusasco.


bye

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Re: [newbie-it] kde3

2002-07-05 Per discussione miKe

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Il 20:08, giovedì 4 luglio 2002, in merito a Re:
[newbie-it] kde3, arwan ha scritto:

  Ho scaricato il paccozzo di rpm di kde3.0.1 per la mia
  mdk8.2

 E' tanto grosso da scaricare? Oppure e' piu' comodo
 aspettarlo in qualche rivista?

con un 56 k ci vuole tanta pazienza, ed una buona
connessione...
i miei (sorgenti) 'pesano' 97.1 Mb..
..e considera che non ho tutto..
:(

(appropo', quello che
 danno con LinuxC funzia solo sotto red hat, vero?)

se alludi a quello inserito nella 'Linux professional 7.3'
credo di si, a meno di mettersi d'impegno...


bye

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Re: [newbie-it] Microsoft (per Roberto)

2002-07-05 Per discussione freefred

On Friday 05 July 2002 18:06, Roberto, talkin' about Re: [newbie-it] 
Microsoft (per Roberto) wrote:

 Dovete sapere che il mio odio per gli hacker è perfino superiore a
 quello che nutro per i ciclisti e i camionisti 

mh?



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Re: [newbie] eye candy software like Oozic Reactor

2002-07-05 Per discussione robin

et wrote:
 playing with the software that came with my Audigy sound card in WinME, I 
 came across Oozic Reactor. now from what I could tell, this is total eye 
 candy software with less reason for being than a lava lamp, and has about the 
 same reasons for being, however, as something going on in the background this 
 seemed pretty neat. anyway any one seen any thing that will run in MDK 
 (Xfree) like that? 

I haven't seen Oozic, but XMMS has a load of plugins, including G-Force.

Sir Robin




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Re: [newbie] Browser compatibility.

2002-07-05 Per discussione Anne Wilson

On Thursday 04 Jul 2002 5:55 pm, you wrote:
 On Thursday 04 July 2002 02:27 am, Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled

 masses, saying:
  I guess so - but since I'm in Linux most of the time now it really isn't
  an issue.  Mozilla and Konq both can access, so what the hell?

 mozilla works but netscape is insecure?  they are truely clueless..

It's OK - they're only a bank to which thousands of us trust our money and 
future...

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Re: [newbie] eye candy software like Oozic Reactor

2002-07-05 Per discussione et

On Friday 05 July 2002 09:42 am, you wrote:
 et wrote:
  playing with the software that came with my Audigy sound card in WinME, I
  came across Oozic Reactor. now from what I could tell, this is total eye
  candy software with less reason for being than a lava lamp, and has about
  the same reasons for being, however, as something going on in the
  background this seemed pretty neat. anyway any one seen any thing that
  will run in MDK (Xfree) like that?

 I haven't seen Oozic, but XMMS has a load of plugins, including G-Force.

 Sir Robin
hmmm... I will check into G-force.



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Re: [newbie] Sound Problems (was BIG Trouble)

2002-07-05 Per discussione Anne Wilson

On Thursday 04 Jul 2002 10:01 pm, you wrote:
   Is your sound working ok, or are there still problems with the XMMS
   plugins. aRtsd is used by ALSA, so if you choose that in KDE control
   center, then it will definitely use aRtsd. I advise putting it back on

 OSS

   or Autodetect. ALSA has many errors a lot. I find OSS to be the best.
  
   John Drouhard
 
  I think I'm OK now, it's certainly better.  I have Start aRts soundserver

 on

  KDE startup enabled.  Should I take this out?  How do I put it onto OSS
  or Autodetect?  The Sound I/O is on Autodetect - is this the one you
  mean?
 
  Sorry to be so clueless
 
  Anne

 It's ok to have aRtsd running on boot. Yes, the Sound I/O is where you
 would specify Autodetect or OSS. What I suggest, is that you try each of
 them (Autodetect, OSS, and ALSA), and try XMMS with them. Which ever one
 works the best, should be the one you use. As long as sound comes out of
 the programs you want it to, and it sounds ok, then you should leave
 everything alone. :-)  Talk to you later!


Thanks for trying to make things clearer.  I'll experiment, as you say.  It 
definitely seems to be an aRts problem, as once again this morning I had to 
do an aRts 'hang up' and re-login to get things working again, so I'll try 
the options other than Auto and see what happens.

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Re: [newbie] Virii WAS I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?

2002-07-05 Per discussione Anne Wilson

On Friday 05 Jul 2002 12:56 am, you wrote:
  Virii is most definitely a word.

 Despite frequent claims to the contrary, the only correct English plural
 of the word used in any of these senses is viruses, not virii . The ii is
 used to denote plurity in latin words ending in ius, not us. Hence it
 is viruses, not virii. If virus was spelled virius, then the plural
 virii would be correct, however, it is not.




 Oh, and it's not in my dictionaries either...

 http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=virii
 http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=viruses
 http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=virii

From my dimly remembered schooldays, I thought the plural for a word ending 
in -us was -i, thus giving viri :-)

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Re: [newbie] LISa

2002-07-05 Per discussione Anne Wilson

On Wednesday 03 Jul 2002 9:57 pm, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 03 July 2002 9:09, you wrote:
  'The LISa daemon is now configured correctly, hopefully.  Make sure that
  it is started with root previleges.  A good idea would be to start it
  when your system boots.  (lisa --kde2)'
 
  I know this means putting it into a config file - one of the rc.d ones, I
  think.  Can someone please direct me?
 
  Anne

 i used webmin to add LISa ..it was a lot easier, lisa was all i required to
 use on MD8.2 ( no--KDE bit required)
 tho i prefer to use komba2 on CD3 as it works a lot better for me

I installed komba2 - at least I think I did.  It certainly shows up on the 
list of installed packages, but I have no idea how to use it.

Having had another poke around, I find ub /usr/share/applnk/Applications 
komba2.desktop and k3b.desktop, which I also haven't managed to find/use.

As usual, all help gratefully received. :-)

Anne

BTW - I have poked around Webmin, but can't work out how you added LISa



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[newbie] what is KillAll and how do I stop errors

2002-07-05 Per discussione Stephen Britton

Good afternoon folks,

I've been running Mandrake on an old PIII 500 desktop for
the past two weeks and everything seems to be working fine,
except for when I go to shutdown (Halt). When I shutdown the
box and Mandrake goes through it's process, a command 
KillAll pops up and then I get a failed message. It doesn't
seem to hurt anything and I have been ignoring it, but I would
like to get this machine running perfectly. 

Could someone tell me what KillAll does and how I can
stop the error messages that I see when the machine
shuts down.

Thank you!

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RE: [newbie] Exceed and KDE

2002-07-05 Per discussione Hughes, Michael




snip
Did you configure your window manager (either KDM, GDM, XDM, etc.) to
enable XDMCP broadcasts?
E.G. edit kdmrc, gdmrc, etc.
/snip

How do you do this??  Where is this done??



snip
|Hi!
|I can't use exceed to open an X session to my mandrake 
|machine. I am able to start the xterm, and programs from there 
|but I can't get the full desktop. 
|If i create a exceed session all I get is the gray background 
|with the cross cursor and no KDE on it. DO I have to configure 
|something to get KDE as the default window manager? REgards, Casco
/snip

i had to add the ip of the machine running exceed in the hosts file of my
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[newbie] File managing problems in Konq

2002-07-05 Per discussione Anne Wilson

I originally tried to save some mp3 files in a FAT32 directory, but when I 
had difficulties I decided to keep copies in a sub-directory from my Desktop. 
 The problem remains.

Often when I open either of these directories I get a shimmering border, and 
Konq locks up.  It is very difficult to persuade it to close.  It does not 
happen every time, and logging out and in again seems to clear it.  Shades of 
Win98!!!

Anne




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[newbie] Frazer. Mandrake 8.2

2002-07-05 Per discussione frazer



Frazer AGAIN
Sorry iv just read i should tell you more about my 
system.It has a Pentium 3 450MHz ..Ms 440zx chipset 128MB fast SDRAM 100MHz.13 
Gb udma drive.Onboard enhancedIDE and a Riva TNT 16Mb graphics 
card
integrated Creative Labs Wave64 sound.And Win98. Im 
not sure about the Motherboard is does`nt seem to say in the system config 
files. 



[newbie] PCI / K6-2 blues

2002-07-05 Per discussione panjur

I have a FIC VA-503+ motherboard ( most current BIOS update ), with a
K6-1 300MHZ, 128MB SDRAM  100MHZ, Prromise ATA-100 pci card/  hde1 30GB
ata100 harddisk primary drive, ATI 98 pci 16MB ram. and a dead soundcard
ALA4000 ( ALSA not supported ).
I wished to change the soundcard from the unsupported ALA to and older
ESS1688, and when I changed the card the system would not reboot! I even
treid to remove just the ALA , alone without adding the ESS, and it just
sits at the intial boot screen 'Swanse', proceeds to the harddrive line
and comes to a halt. I treid to rescue, and upgrade and get the same
results.
I must state this was not a painless ugrade from 8.1, the patch file
commands (both the patch and 'nonpentium'  produced no results, on a
lark I tried and succeded with 'nonauto'!)
What form of witchcarft command and or ritual must I perform to get the
pci card out and reinstall the isa in? Where Oh where is Kudzu?
The system has provided rock solid since I upgraded ( with only a few
minor querks )
Thanks panjur




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[newbie] encoding mp3s on mandrake ...

2002-07-05 Per discussione Rainer



Asked this question previously, with very little detail supplied as a 
response - only what apps could be used. this is a newbie mailing list, right?

right now i got ripperX-2.1-1.i386.rpm, will this work on man. 8.2. if there 
is something better, please let me know (and where i can find it). once that 
is settled i, -ivh the rpm from the command line? i can then find it where, 
/bin ? from there i can make a shortcut to the desktop? this is a gui app, 
i'm told, is it pretty straightforward to use for someone coming from windows 
and musicmatch or is there something i should know. the 'how to' made it seem 
pretty simple? 

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 - MP3 Audio not working

2002-07-05 Per discussione List User

I have tried using both Noatun and Xmms with the same results from both,
for all intents and purposes the player looks like it is working (equalizer 
works etc) but not sound, volume controls on both players are definatly set 
to max (adjusting doesnt help either)

The only thing I can find that this might be is that my mobo has an onboard 
sound card that mandrake has picked up even though I have this dsiabled in my 
bios, and for some reasons mandrake is piping CD Audio though the SB Live and 
MP3 audio though the mobo?? dunno

 I may not be able to help you with your sound problem, but try xmms
 instead of Noatun. I think xmms is a much better player.


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Re: [newbie] encoding mp3s on mandrake ...

2002-07-05 Per discussione Alastair Scott

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On Friday 05 July 2002 6:25 pm, Rainer wrote:
 Asked this question previously, with very little detail supplied as a
 response - only what apps could be used. this is a newbie mailing
 list, right?

 right now i got ripperX-2.1-1.i386.rpm, will this work on man. 8.2.
 if there is something better, please let me know (and where i can
 find it). once that is settled i, -ivh the rpm from the command line?
 i can then find it where, /bin ? from there i can make a shortcut to
 the desktop? this is a gui app, i'm told, is it pretty
 straightforward to use for someone coming from windows and musicmatch
 or is there something i should know. the 'how to' made it seem pretty
 simple?

There's probably a better application installed by default - look in the 
K menu for What to do | Enjoy music  video | Rip a CD. This runs grip, 
which is a very nice ripper. All you do is put the CD in the drive, 
select the tracks to be ripped from the Track tab, then select the Rip 
tab and press Rip+Encode.

(Because of the way ripping is done in Linux it dumps the CD contents to 
[uncompressed] WAV files then converts them to [compressed] MP3; if you 
press Rip you'll just get WAVs].

There's a useful change worth doing to the default configuration, 
though, namely changing the rip format from MP3 to OGG (Ogg Vorbis), 
which gives you smaller but better-quality rips. To do this in grip, 
select the Config tab, then the MP3 tab, then the Encoder tab, then 
change the Encoder: pulldown to oggenc, then rip as before.

This is worthwhile reading about Ogg Vorbis:

http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/index.html

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Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?

2002-07-05 Per discussione D. Olson

On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote:
  The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE
  really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those
  bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it zooms
  Mmmm

 I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom.  Are
 you talking about a whole zooming taskbar?


My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom. 
They just highlight.

And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You 
should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a window 
too... M.



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[newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups

2002-07-05 Per discussione magnet

Hi all,
I have installed Mandrake 8.2. The computer runs 24 hours solid, but lately
I have been coming in from work and the system is unresponsive. I cannot
click on anything, the keyboard appears to have no effect but i can still
move the mouse pointer around the screen and the clock is still showing the
correct time.
Any suggestions how to get this install running as smoothly as 8.0 will be
appreciated :)

thanks
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[newbie] gnomemeeting

2002-07-05 Per discussione Joan Tur

Hallo!

Have any of you been able to register in ILS directory?  It tryes to log into 
argo.dyndns.org but I get no people list after pressing refresh.

I only get the following:
-First name: please
-last name: register!
-Email: Enable register in settings - ILS settings
-Comment: Please register on ils.seconix.com. argo is closed

ils.seconix.com doesn't seem to point to a web page.

In Settings - General - Directory settings - Xdap directory I have 
argo.dyndns.org and enable registering is set.

Any idea?  Thanks!!  ;)

Note: gnomemeeting.sourceforge.net didn't help.
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Re: [newbie] eye candy software like Oozic Reactor

2002-07-05 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall

On Friday 05 July 2002 10:35 am, you wrote:

 hmmm... I will check into G-force.

G-force, Jakdaw, even the Space Ghost one is amusing (ah, my misbegotten 
youth!) for awhile... :-)

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Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups

2002-07-05 Per discussione Alastair Scott

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On Friday 05 July 2002 7:20 pm, magnet wrote:

 I have installed Mandrake 8.2. The computer runs 24 hours solid, but
 lately I have been coming in from work and the system is
 unresponsive. I cannot click on anything, the keyboard appears to
 have no effect but i can still move the mouse pointer around the
 screen and the clock is still showing the correct time.
 Any suggestions how to get this install running as smoothly as 8.0
 will be appreciated :)

Perchance do you have a USB mouse attached to a hub? If you do, move it 
to a USB port attached to the motherboard. Also, if you have a USB 
keyboard, use the PS/2 connector instead.

These, in combination, stopped similar mysterious lockups in my case.

Alastair
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Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?

2002-07-05 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall

On Friday 05 July 2002 02:12 pm, you wrote:
 On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote:
   The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE
   really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those
   bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it
   zooms Mmmm
 
  I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom.  Are
  you talking about a whole zooming taskbar?

 My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom.
 They just highlight.

 And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You
 should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a
 window too... M.

Not sure but I think the icons only zoom if the task bar size is set to tiny, 
small or medium... (and zooming is enabled of course!)

HTH

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[newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys, Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-05 Per discussione Sevatio

Check out this story:
http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=internetnewsStoryID=1168474




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Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys,Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-05 Per discussione Jure Repinc

Sevatio wrote:
 Check out this story:
 http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=internetnewsStoryID=1168474

Why do they even try to stop this. Can't they see it can't be stopped? 
The future is in sharing information and nothing can be done to make it 
different. RIAA and the like are just a bunch of stupid selfish bastards 
and they will soon become extinct. Keep on sharing people! Information 
to everyone!

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 - MP3 Audio not working

2002-07-05 Per discussione List User

After further investigation it would seem that the only audio I can play is 
CD audio, no wav or mp3 files will play, mpg movies dont have any sound, it 
seems like the entire sound server is failing somewhere as cd audio might be 
done via hardware instead  (can anybody confirm)

So far I have :
- checked Kmix and all volumes are unmuted and set to max
- Checked Aumix and the same
- Tried in different apps, Xmms, Noatun
- Tried different sound servers in - Control Center-Sound-Sound Server-Sound 
I/O (this is currently set to auto detect, open sound system doesnt seem to 
do anything different, and the sound server fails to restart on Advanced 
Linux Sound Architecture
- Check in hardDrake and the settings for the Sound Card all seem to be fine

I cant think of anything else


On Friday 05 July 2002 6:35 pm, you wrote:
 well...if you've good sound for everything else except the playing of
 mp3's then again I would suggest checking the volume level of the card
 where playing those files is concerned.



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Re: [newbie] LISa

2002-07-05 Per discussione magnet


snip
 BTW - I have poked around Webmin, but can't work out how you added LISa

/snip

LtCdData helped me out with webmin...

start up webmin as root...
click on the System tag and then on the Bootup and Shutdown icon...
Scroll down to bottom of the page and click on Create a new bootup or
shutdown action.
A new page will appear with a few boxs to be filled in...
Name lisa
Description Start lisa running [or whatever you choose to put here]
Bootup commandslisa
Shutdown commands [leave empty]
Check the Start at boot time YES option
Click the Create button

all done :))

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Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups

2002-07-05 Per discussione magnet


- Original Message - 
From: Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups


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On Friday 05 July 2002 7:20 pm, magnet wrote:

 I have installed Mandrake 8.2. The computer runs 24 hours solid, but
 lately I have been coming in from work and the system is
 unresponsive. I cannot click on anything, the keyboard appears to
 have no effect but i can still move the mouse pointer around the
 screen and the clock is still showing the correct time.
 Any suggestions how to get this install running as smoothly as 8.0
 will be appreciated :)

Perchance do you have a USB mouse attached to a hub? If you do, move it 
to a USB port attached to the motherboard. Also, if you have a USB 
keyboard, use the PS/2 connector instead.

These, in combination, stopped similar mysterious lockups in my case.

Alastair
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Cheers for the suggestion Alastair, but no usb devices attached m8.

regards
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Re: [newbie] Windows Games

2002-07-05 Per discussione Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 12:03, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Monday 01 July 2002 05:24 pm, you wrote:
 
 everything snipped
 
  You can run your mouth about how I should order online like the rest of
  you, but it just so happens that I don't own a credit card, nor do I want
  one. And really, do Windows users have to buy their games online? No. I
  like to walk into a store, pay for my game, and then have the game in MY
  HANDS. I don't like to order over the internet from people I don't know,
  with no guarantee that I will actually ever see the product.
 
   If thats true, then its obvious
   there needs to be a much larger game playing user base under Linux to get
   these companies attention and hold it.
 
  Let me tell you something. How the fuck do you expect the Linux gaming
  community to grow when THERE ARE NO FUCKING GAMES FOR LINUX?
 
   I'll be the first to celebrate when that day arrives!  :-)
 
  I doubt it.
 
 I don't know at what point this conversation turned the way it has, but as 
 far as I'm concerned its over. Thank you.
 
 -- 
   /\
DarkLord
   \/
 


I'm a little confused also, since anyone alive and not living under a
rock has heard about Loki's demise.  Transgaming is the bridge from the
gaming world to the world of linux, and it's working.  Nuff said.

I tell you what...I get involved in a new install for a few days, and
before I can get back, *everything* flies off the handle.  ;)

Hey, DL...thanks for the Morrowind vote!  It helped tremendously. When
you're ready let me know and I'll return the favor.

Back in black,

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Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups

2002-07-05 Per discussione Charles A Edwards

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:31:58 +0100
Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On Friday 05 July 2002 7:20 pm, magnet wrote:
 
  I have installed Mandrake 8.2. The computer runs 24 hours solid, but
  lately I have been coming in from work and the system is
  unresponsive. I cannot click on anything, the keyboard appears to
  have no effect but i can still move the mouse pointer around the
  screen and the clock is still showing the correct time.
  Any suggestions how to get this install running as smoothly as 8.0
  will be appreciated :)
 
 Perchance do you have a USB mouse attached to a hub? If you do, move
 it to a USB port attached to the motherboard. Also, if you have a USB 
 keyboard, use the PS/2 connector instead.
 
Another cause has affected many AMD system in 8.2.
If your system is AMD add to the append line in /etc/lilo.conf 
mem=nopentium


Charles

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Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys, Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-05 Per discussione Todd Slater

On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 11:34:10AM -0700, Sevatio wrote:
 Check out this story:
 http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=internetnewsStoryID=1168474

While I'm all for sharing and sticking it to the RIAA, MPAA, and the
man, I tend to side with the artist on this issue. It would be nice to
see a distribution system in which the artist could reap the benefits of
his/her labor more than the record label.

It's great to share as in free software, but you are projecting your
ideas about sharing onto others. How do you make your living? Shall we
all of a sudden decide that your labor should be shared for free,
without any input from you? People who develop free software do so
willingly. I don't think it's fair to project that onto others so you
don't have to spend $15 on a crummy CD.

Lately I'm having a hard time finding music I want to purchase anyway.
That's the fault of the record labels and FM radio. Blah!!

I know this will be an unpopular position on this list, so let me
practice moving side to side and ducking . . .

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Please can you Help

2002-07-05 Per discussione Charlie

July 5, 2002 10:30 am, frazer wrote:
 As you might guess im new to linux.How many times have you heard that
 My problem is with Mandrake 8.2 .Im trying to install onto a pentium 3.
 450Mhz. 12 Gb Hard drive 128Mb ram.The drive was partitioned with Partition
 Magic.Windows 98 being on the drive also.The PM wizard guided me through
 the process,moving my windows files to a new partition  5Gb in size.Which
 works fine and also creating about a 4 or bit more Gb partition for linux
 which i believe needs two separate partitions I also installed boot magic
 if that matters?.After booting from the first CD (theres three as it was a
 download off the net) and starting ok with the welcome to linux press f1 or
 f3 i think it is, to install it goes ok for a while until the message
 :Error loading program into memory could not uncompress second stage
 ramdisk.This is probably an hardware error while reading the data this
 maybe caused by a hardware failure or a linux kernal bug in then says press
 ok but nothing happens.Iv have tried the four or five commands that are
 recommended in the help file text Expert and so on but all cause the
 same problem.If its a hardware problem wouldn't it be causing windows
 problems?  Should i try creating the partitions again or would you
 recommend formatting the whole hard disk and starting fresh. i dont really
 want that.Thats about it i think. If you cant help Thankyou anyway.

 Frazer

Welcome to the land of free choice Frazer.

I've had a similar problem a few times with downloaded applications, and once 
(I think it was Mandrake 7.2 Freq) with the operating system disks. 
Thankfully (I hate coasters) I hadn't burned them to disk; just (tried) 
mount from a spare hard drive and attempt to install from there. Corrupt 
download. The second download went swimmingly well for the install. Many 
times it's a bad download as has already been suggested, but it may also be 
memory that's good enough for Windows but isn't up to spec in some way. 

As a not quite so side issue; lose boot magic. It's something you don't need 
since Mandrake and all other distributions of GNU/Linux come with Lilo 
(LinuxLoader) and Grub (you just need to choose one) and they'll control 
booting of however many operating systems you want to try. I wouldn't use 
Partition Magic again either since DiskDrake will do the same thing without 
costing you money. It won't eat Windows unless you tell it to.

But that's just me. I've managed to help people install Mandrake a few times, 
and many are eager to rush out and acquire a copy of a partition manager when 
it's not necessary. It's just a sign of the brainwashing everyone has been 
subjected to by the marketing drones of the Wintel empire that even when 
people are thinking about leaving the aggravation behind they can't forget 
about applications/utilities written to do things that a proper operating 
system would do for itself or at least include utilities to deal with the 
need. The way GNU/Linux does and Windows can't.

The list archives have many posts dealing with memtest and it's uses and I'd 
check for a hardware problem as the second thing to do. The first is to be 
sure that your download disks aren't corrupted. Reading as many posts in the 
list archives will be invaluable to you in many ways. You'll learn things 
from reading the posts that you won't realize until you run across something 
and the light suddenly comes on. OH *that's* what that meant!

Holler when you need to, there are a lot of intelligent and helpful people 
here that can help get you moving the direction you want. 

I wish I were one of them. :-)

Good luck.
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Re: [newbie] what is KillAll and how do I stop errors

2002-07-05 Per discussione Charlie

July 5, 2002 10:46 am, Stephen Britton wrote:
 Good afternoon folks,

 I've been running Mandrake on an old PIII 500 desktop for
 the past two weeks and everything seems to be working fine,
 except for when I go to shutdown (Halt). When I shutdown the
 box and Mandrake goes through it's process, a command
 KillAll pops up and then I get a failed message. It doesn't
 seem to hurt anything and I have been ignoring it, but I would
 like to get this machine running perfectly.

 Could someone tell me what KillAll does and how I can
 stop the error messages that I see when the machine
 shuts down.

 Thank you!

 - Steve
~~
It does just what it says Steve; kills the processes that are running so the 
machine can reboot or shut down.

Post the error here, since something is hanging (failed) and it shouldn't 
be. Somebody here can help you figure it out. 

From experience with running Mandrake on the same processor for more than two 
years in various releases, I can tell you there is no perfect. But there is 
damned good and that's what this list is for. To help you get there. :)
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Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups

2002-07-05 Per discussione magnet


- Original Message - 
From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups


 On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:31:58 +0100
 Alastair Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  On Friday 05 July 2002 7:20 pm, magnet wrote:
  
   I have installed Mandrake 8.2. The computer runs 24 hours solid, but
   lately I have been coming in from work and the system is
   unresponsive. I cannot click on anything, the keyboard appears to
   have no effect but i can still move the mouse pointer around the
   screen and the clock is still showing the correct time.
   Any suggestions how to get this install running as smoothly as 8.0
   will be appreciated :)
  
  Perchance do you have a USB mouse attached to a hub? If you do, move
  it to a USB port attached to the motherboard. Also, if you have a USB 
  keyboard, use the PS/2 connector instead.
  
 Another cause has affected many AMD system in 8.2.
 If your system is AMD add to the append line in /etc/lilo.conf 
 mem=nopentium
 
 Charles
 

Hi Charles,
I have a Gigabyte GA-IXE4 mobo, 1.2GHz Athlon combo.
This is my lilo.conf file.
Should i add your line to both append lines like below?

Boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
lba32
prompt
nowarn
timeout=100
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi mem=nopentium
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi mem=nopentium
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe







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Re: [newbie] Virii WAS I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?[OT]

2002-07-05 Per discussione robin

Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

On Fri, 05 Jul 2002 18:20:37 +, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:


On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 19:56:16 -0400, D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Oh, and it's not in my dictionaries either...
  

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=virii
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=viruses
http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=virii
   



Try using a _real_ English dictionary, like, say, the Oxford Dictionary.

  

Virii is not in the OED either (neither is viri). The plural is 
given as viruses.



Was it the full version OED? I'm pretty sure I saw it in there somewhere. I
could've been wrong, though -- it's been a while :)

It was the online (subscription) verison, which AFAIK is complete.


  

BTW, while I'm a big fan of the OED, I would have to count 
Merriam-Webster as a real English dictionary.



Webster started his dictionary because he wanted to 'reform' the English
language. He had certain kooky ideas about English, and he was the originator of
today's 'American' spellings. Apparently, he also wanted to change words like
'tongue' to 'tung' but some other people stopped him before he went too far out
to the deep end. Nevertheless, much of the 'reform' continued. I can't trust any
work that has such an agenda; it's just not academically ethical.
  

Actually, I wouldn't have minded if his ideas on spelling had gone 
further, but some of his other ideas were really kooky - IIRC he wanted 
to rewrite the Bible with no bad words or references to sex.

Sir Robin

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Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups

2002-07-05 Per discussione Charles A Edwards

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:25:59 +0100
magnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  
 
 Hi Charles,
 I have a Gigabyte GA-IXE4 mobo, 1.2GHz Athlon combo.
 This is my lilo.conf file.
 Should i add your line to both append lines like below?
 
 Boot=/dev/hda
 map=/boot/map
 install=/boot/boot.b
 vga=normal
 default=linux
 keytable=/boot/uk.klt
 lba32
 prompt
 nowarn
 timeout=100
 message=/boot/message
 menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=linux
 root=/dev/hda1
 initrd=/boot/initrd.img
 append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi mem=nopentium
 read-only
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
 label=failsafe
 root=/dev/hda1
 initrd=/boot/initrd.img
 append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi mem=nopentium
 read-only
 other=/dev/fd0
 label=floppy
 unsafe
 

Yep, that right.


Charles

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Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys, Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-05 Per discussione Alastair Scott

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On Friday 05 July 2002 8:13 pm, Todd Slater wrote:

 While I'm all for sharing and sticking it to the RIAA, MPAA, and the
 man, I tend to side with the artist on this issue. It would be nice
 to see a distribution system in which the artist could reap the
 benefits of his/her labor more than the record label.

 It's great to share as in free software, but you are projecting your
 ideas about sharing onto others. How do you make your living? Shall
 we all of a sudden decide that your labor should be shared for free,
 without any input from you? People who develop free software do so
 willingly. I don't think it's fair to project that onto others so you
 don't have to spend $15 on a crummy CD.

 Lately I'm having a hard time finding music I want to purchase
 anyway. That's the fault of the record labels and FM radio. Blah!!

 I know this will be an unpopular position on this list, so let me
 practice moving side to side and ducking . . .

Although not a recording artist I agree with you, although CDs were 
costing £13-£15 a shot long before the Internet haled up over the 
horizon ;)

As a classical musician (viola, violin, piano) my sort of music is 
rarely discussed in this context, which is a pity because it has unique 
problems. The most pertinent is that, apart from the output of a few 
small companies* who do a lot of digging in libraries and bring forth 
fascinating esoterica, everything that can be recorded has been 
recorded multiple times; why have eight slightly different copies of a 
Mahler symphony? That fact has finally got through to recording 
companies which have flown into a wild panic, stopped new recordings, 
terminated artists' contracts and started issuing their back catalogue 
en bloc. This slash and burn has had a pleasant impact on the consumer 
(I'm regularly seeing boxed sets of two or three CDs for £12-£15, which 
is a nice incentive to fill in the gaps) but, in the medium or long 
term, is disastrous as there is no fertile ground left.

I would like to see it recognised that the Internet is an obviously good 
way of distributing music and rows and rows of plastic boxes in a shop 
are anachronistic. The RIAA et alia, as a block to change, should be 
summarily legislated out of existence, contracts between record 
companies and artists should be bought out at mandated rates, and 
artists should be obliged to sell, track by track, direct to the 
consumer, at reasonable costs (a flat rate per track or similar) with 
appropriate digital rights management. 'Record shops' should become 
quasi-Internet cafes with CD burners and printers (for sleeve material) 
ad lib, so that those who don't have their own equipment can still take 
part and bring their own media.

(I have no problem with Palladium provided it is used to enforce DRM for 
goods with reasonable price structures; I hope that, if Microsoft 
thinks it can set these structures, it is sorely mistaken. Such a job 
is not for a private company). 

Alastair

* http://www.hyperion-records.com/ being an outstanding example.
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Re: [newbie] [OT] more BS from RIAA (was longer)

2002-07-05 Per discussione Charlie

July 5, 2002 01:13 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
snip

 While I'm all for sharing and sticking it to the RIAA, MPAA, and the
 man, I tend to side with the artist on this issue. It would be nice to
 see a distribution system in which the artist could reap the benefits of
 his/her labor more than the record label.

 It's great to share as in free software, but you are projecting your
 ideas about sharing onto others. How do you make your living? Shall we
 all of a sudden decide that your labor should be shared for free,
 without any input from you? People who develop free software do so
 willingly. I don't think it's fair to project that onto others so you
 don't have to spend $15 on a crummy CD.

 Lately I'm having a hard time finding music I want to purchase anyway.
 That's the fault of the record labels and FM radio. Blah!!

 I know this will be an unpopular position on this list, so let me
 practice moving side to side and ducking . . .

 Todd

I'm with you Todd. 

I never swap movie or music files, but the few people that I associate with 
that do buy just as many disks as they ever did. If they're worth buying in 
the first place.

The only disks that I've bought in roughly the past year were replacements 
for scratched or otherwise damaged ones. Or ones my kids swiped and wouldn't 
give back. :-) Most of the replacements came from bookswap/recycled CD bins 
at the local exchanges since most of the stuff was rather old. Like me.

I laugh when I read that swapping files is responsible for the decline in 
sales. Seems to me it's the ridiculous prices and arrogance of the jerks 
running the studios and labels. The (musicians) artists mostly get a pittance 
for their creativity anyway until they become a name; at which point they 
don't usually have anything to offer that I want to hear. 

Artists I'll support, and that includes software developers working on 
projects I believe in. Drones/clones that work on a 'business model' that 
insists on 'all the traffic will bear' can find a hole to crawl, in then pull 
it in behind themselves for all I care. If the decisions they made to pay so 
much for so little (think Mariah Carey among others) hadn't happened the 
costs wouldn't be out of line. Their model isn't working, nor should they 
be with that level of thought in their planning. The world doesn't need 
them.

Or me. :-)
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Re: [newbie] PCI / K6-2 blues

2002-07-05 Per discussione Frans Ketelaars

On Fri, 05 Jul 2002 13:15:54 -0400
panjur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a FIC VA-503+ motherboard ( most current BIOS update ), with a
 K6-1 300MHZ, 128MB SDRAM @ 100MHZ, Prromise ATA-100 pci card/  hde1 30GB
 ata100 harddisk primary drive, ATI 98 pci 16MB ram. and a dead soundcard
 ALA4000 ( ALSA not supported ).

The ALS-4000 based PCI soundcards should be supported by LM8.2:

---
  Module snd-card-als4000.o
  

Module for ALS-4000 PCI soundcards
.
---

The above is from: /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-6mdk/alsa-driver-0.5.12a/INSTALL ,
contained in the kernel-source-2.4.18-6mdk RPM on your CD's :)

Note: the ALSA 0.5.x series is deprecated, see http://www.alsa-project.org .

 I wished to change the soundcard from the unsupported ALA to and older
 ESS1688, and when I changed the card the system would not reboot! I even
 treid to remove just the ALA , alone without adding the ESS, and it just
 sits at the intial boot screen 'Swanse', proceeds to the harddrive line
 and comes to a halt. I treid to rescue, and upgrade and get the same
 results.

But the original hardware configuration (when restored) works?

 I must state this was not a painless ugrade from 8.1, the patch file
 commands (both the patch and 'nonpentium'  produced no results, on a
 lark I tried and succeded with 'nonauto'!)
 What form of witchcarft command and or ritual must I perform to get the
 pci card out and reinstall the isa in? Where Oh where is Kudzu?

[frans@amd frans]$ whereis kudzu
kudzu: /usr/sbin/kudzu /usr/share/kudzu /usr/share/man/man8/kudzu.8.bz2
[frans@amd frans]$ rpm -qf /usr/sbin/kudzu
kudzu-0.99.23-4mdk
[frans@amd frans]$ grin

 The system has provided rock solid since I upgraded ( with only a few
 minor querks )
 Thanks panjur

Good luck!

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[newbie] Running stuff at startup

2002-07-05 Per discussione Jordan Elver

Hi,
I need to load a kernal module in order to get my webcam working properly, 
but doing this each time can be tedious. If I want to load it at boot, where 
should I put the line (or script). It has to be run as root (you probably 
already knew that :)).

TIA,
Jord
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Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?

2002-07-05 Per discussione Miark

 I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom.  Are 
 you talking about a whole zooming taskbar?

Imagine the shape of a snake as it swallows a large object whole. In OSX,
the taskbar takes on the same shape as you move the pointer over something.
That is, not only does the icon you're pointing at get big, but the icon
on either side gets slightly bigger. Very cool.

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Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups

2002-07-05 Per discussione magnet


- Original Message - 
From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] recent 8.2 install system lock-ups


 On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:25:59 +0100
 magnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   
  
  Hi Charles,
  I have a Gigabyte GA-IXE4 mobo, 1.2GHz Athlon combo.
  This is my lilo.conf file.
  Should i add your line to both append lines like below?
  
  Boot=/dev/hda
  map=/boot/map
  install=/boot/boot.b
  vga=normal
  default=linux
  keytable=/boot/uk.klt
  lba32
  prompt
  nowarn
  timeout=100
  message=/boot/message
  menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
  image=/boot/vmlinuz
  label=linux
  root=/dev/hda1
  initrd=/boot/initrd.img
  append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi mem=nopentium
  read-only
  image=/boot/vmlinuz
  label=failsafe
  root=/dev/hda1
  initrd=/boot/initrd.img
  append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi mem=nopentium
  read-only
  other=/dev/fd0
  label=floppy
  unsafe
  
 
 Yep, that right.
 
 
 Charles
 
Cheers Charles,
I'll see if this machine is running when I get in from work tomorrow.
Your help was appreciated.

regards
magnet :)






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Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys, Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-05 Per discussione Josef Lowder

You're absolutely right, Todd. 

Everyone deserves to be reasonably compensated for the creative and 
productive value-added work that they do.  Sadly, there seem to be three 
extremes that get in the way:  1) Greed -- some (like monopolistic, 
anti-trustworthy Microsoft and grossly over-paid athletes, actors, corporate 
CEOs, etc.) who excessively, disproportionately, and unreasonably profit 
from whatever value-added they contribute to society; 2) Theft -- those 
who steal the value-added of others' work, whatever it may be, without being 
willing to pay reasonable compensation; and 3) rip-off-artists who profit 
disproportionately on the work and productivity of others.  (One has to 
wonder-out-loud what value-added lawyers, packagers, and the advertising 
industry provide to society.  For a $5.00 box of cereal a farmer gets what, 
9-cents? 

It could be argued that the computer software shareware concept and the 
GNU-Linux open source initiatives just might be among the most significant 
developments in the history of mankind.  For in this we see the very best of 
humanity -- many, many talented people freely sharing their best efforts for 
the good of all -- and many appreciative users supporting those efforts in 
various ways.  But then, sadly, there are too-many who want everything free 
and contribute nothing to anyone. 

Perhaps the web will remedy this problem in creative new ways that we have 
not yet seen. 


On Friday 05 July 2002 12:13, you wrote:
 While I'm all for sharing and sticking it to the RIAA, MPAA, and the
 man, I tend to side with the artist on this issue. It would be nice to
 see a distribution system in which the artist could reap the benefits of
 his/her labor more than the record label.

 It's great to share as in free software, but you are projecting your
 ideas about sharing onto others. How do you make your living? Shall we
 all of a sudden decide that your labor should be shared for free,
 without any input from you? People who develop free software do so
 willingly. I don't think it's fair to project that onto others so you
 don't have to spend $15 on a crummy CD.

 Lately I'm having a hard time finding music I want to purchase anyway.
 That's the fault of the record labels and FM radio. Blah!!

 I know this will be an unpopular position on this list, so let me
 practice moving side to side and ducking . . .




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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 - MP3 Audio not working

2002-07-05 Per discussione Derek Jennings

On Friday 05 Jul 2002 7:48 pm, List User wrote:
 After further investigation it would seem that the only audio I can play is
 CD audio, no wav or mp3 files will play, mpg movies dont have any sound, it
 seems like the entire sound server is failing somewhere as cd audio might
 be done via hardware instead  (can anybody confirm)

 So far I have :
 - checked Kmix and all volumes are unmuted and set to max
 - Checked Aumix and the same
 - Tried in different apps, Xmms, Noatun
 - Tried different sound servers in - Control Center-Sound-Sound
 Server-Sound I/O (this is currently set to auto detect, open sound system
 doesnt seem to do anything different, and the sound server fails to restart
 on Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
 - Check in hardDrake and the settings for the Sound Card all seem to be
 fine

 I cant think of anything else

 On Friday 05 July 2002 6:35 pm, you wrote:
  well...if you've good sound for everything else except the playing of
  mp3's then again I would suggest checking the volume level of the card
  where playing those files is concerned.


You would not happen to have on board sound AND a sound card would you?  I 
have seen cases where Linux picked up an onboard sound system that the user 
thought was disabled.

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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 - MP3 Audio not working

2002-07-05 Per discussione Anne Wilson

On Friday 05 Jul 2002 4:37 pm, you wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 09:04:03AM -0600, List Account wrote:
 snip

  And in reply to the first suggestion to my problem, the volume controls
  in the application are fine.  The app is Noatun which came with the
  default multimedia install of Mandrake

 I may not be able to help you with your sound problem, but try xmms
 instead of Noatun. I think xmms is a much better player.


 Todd

This sounds a bit like some of the problem manifestations I get - that is, it 
doesn't happen all the time, but too often for my liking.  I have found that 
the solution to my problem is to use the Process Management utility to kill 
aRts, then login afresh.  It works every time.  

But then when I'm having that problem it does kill all sound, so maybe it 
isn't the same.

Anne



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Re: [newbie] Sound Problems (was BIG Trouble)

2002-07-05 Per discussione Anne Wilson

On Friday 05 Jul 2002 8:54 am, you wrote:
 On Friday 05 July 2002 02:46 am, you wrote:
  Something went wrong overnight.  I tried to start XMMS this morning, and
  it froze.  I tried a fresh login, then a re-boot, but I'm without sound
  again. What should I check now, please?
 
  Anne

 Hi Anne, I am going to be out of town until Monday, but I suggest you try
 everything you had before this morning to see if it works again. Try
 changing to autodetect, ALSA, and OSS and just play around with things
 until they work. I'll be back Monday!

 John Drouhard

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a power-saving problem cutting in here.  
I have a suspicion that I find it silent after I have been away from my desk 
for a while.  The monitor closes down, and it is quite possible that there is 
some other power management goin on.  I'm going to try to find out what is 
happening on these lines, just in case.  If I can I'll switch anything like 
that off and see if it makes a difference.

Anne



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Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?

2002-07-05 Per discussione D. Olson

I meant OS X... Not OS Z...

On Friday 05 July 2002 02:12 pm, you wrote:
 On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote:
   The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE
   really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of those
   bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it
   zooms Mmmm
 
  I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom.  Are
  you talking about a whole zooming taskbar?

 My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't zoom.
 They just highlight.

 And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy. You
 should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a
 window too... M.



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Re: [newbie] Windows Games

2002-07-05 Per discussione D. Olson

 I'm a little confused also, since anyone alive and not living under a
 rock has heard about Loki's demise.  Transgaming is the bridge from the
 gaming world to the world of linux, and it's working.  Nuff said.


It's working? 30% of the Windows framerate is not what I call working. 5 
out of 70 games is not what I call working. Locking up systems is not what 
I call working.

All WineX is doing is showing developers that their work in porting software 
natively isn't worth a damn because Wine can handle it.

You don't see it now, but Wine and WineX will be the downfall of the Linux 
gaming market.

And when that happens, I'll have you to thank for it.



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Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys, Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-05 Per discussione Bill Davidson

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:13:55 -0400
Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 11:34:10AM -0700, Sevatio wrote:
  Check out this story:
  http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=internetnewsStoryID=1168474
 
 While I'm all for sharing and sticking it to the RIAA, MPAA, and the
 man, I tend to side with the artist on this issue. It would be nice
 to see a distribution system in which the artist could reap the
 benefits of his/her labor more than the record label.
 
 It's great to share as in free software, but you are projecting your
 ideas about sharing onto others. How do you make your living? Shall we
 all of a sudden decide that your labor should be shared for free,
 without any input from you? People who develop free software do so
 willingly. I don't think it's fair to project that onto others so you
 don't have to spend $15 on a crummy CD.
 
 Lately I'm having a hard time finding music I want to purchase anyway.
 That's the fault of the record labels and FM radio. Blah!!
 
 I know this will be an unpopular position on this list, so let me
 practice moving side to side and ducking . . .

I couldn't disagree with you more on this one. These artists aren't
getting shafted because people steal music online. They're getting
shafted because record companies don't pay them squat compared to what
they make the record companies. Let's face it. They're getting their
money anyway because they're paid up front, and nothing beyond that.

In fact this is actually helping the lesser known bands. Some of them
are quite happy about the whole music sharing thing. They make their
money doing concerts, not by selling records. This just gives them more
exposure, enabling them to sell more tickets. Eventually, I think we'll
see the end of record companies. Bands will all give their music away
online so that people will go and see them live.

Bill



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Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?

2002-07-05 Per discussione D. Olson

On Friday 05 July 2002 02:34 pm, you wrote:
 On Friday 05 July 2002 02:12 pm, you wrote:
  On Friday 05 July 2002 09:06 am, you wrote:
The only wish I have for KDE and not so much Linux (well, any WM/DE
really, as I'd love *box if it had some sort of icons) is one of
those bars like in Mac OS Ten... That'd be SOOO sweet! I LOVE how it
zooms Mmmm
  
   I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom.  Are
   you talking about a whole zooming taskbar?
 
  My icons don't zom anymore... They do for one second, then the don't
  zoom. They just highlight.
 
  And yeah, the Mac OS Z bar zooms in too... NICE Oh, the eye candy.
  You should have a peek at it if you can. Oh, and make sure you minimize a
  window too... M.

 Not sure but I think the icons only zoom if the task bar size is set to
 tiny, small or medium... (and zooming is enabled of course!)

 HTH


I have tried them all, and it works for the first 3 seconds after you apply 
the changes, then it stops working. Don't know why.



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Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?

2002-07-05 Per discussione D. Olson

On Friday 05 July 2002 04:35 pm, you wrote:
  I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom.  Are
  you talking about a whole zooming taskbar?

 Imagine the shape of a snake as it swallows a large object whole. In OSX,
 the taskbar takes on the same shape as you move the pointer over something.
 That is, not only does the icon you're pointing at get big, but the icon
 on either side gets slightly bigger. Very cool.

Hey Miark, that's a great way to describe it! I never thought of that.



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Re: [newbie] Please can you Help

2002-07-05 Per discussione civileme

frazer wrote:

 As you might guess im new to linux.How many times have you heard that

 My problem is with Mandrake 8.2 .Im trying to install onto a pentium 
 3. 450Mhz. 12 Gb Hard drive 128Mb ram.The drive was partitioned with 
 Partition Magic.Windows 98 being on the drive also.The PM wizard 
 guided me through the process,moving my windows files to a new 
 partition  5Gb in size.Which works fine and also creating about a 4 or 
 bit more Gb partition for linux which i believe needs two separate 
 partitions

 I also installed boot magic if that matters?.After booting from the 
 first CD (theres three as it was a download off the net) and starting 
 ok with the welcome to linux press f1 or f3 i think it is, to install 
 it goes ok for a while until the message :Error loading program into 
 memory could not uncompress second stage ramdisk.This is probably an 
 hardware error while reading the data this maybe caused by a hardware 
 failure or a linux kernal bug in then says press ok but nothing 
 happens.Iv have tried the four or five commands that are recommended 
 in the help file text Expert and so on but all cause the same 
 problem.If its a hardware problem wouldn't it be 
 causing windows problems?  Should i try creating the partitions again 
 or would you recommend formatting the whole hard disk and starting 
 fresh. i dont really want that.Thats about it i think.

 If you cant help Thankyou anyway.

  

  
   


 Frazer   

Well, you have a media-vs-drive error on the CD drive.  It could be 
media (the CD) or it could be the drive or it could be the speed at 
which you are running the drive.  It has little or nothing to do with 
your partitioning.  It may have been a download or burning problem as 
well but also it may be that you are using a CDRW which generally makes 
lousy boot CDs, CD-R being a much better media for iso files.

Did you do a google search for md5sum and get the windows equivalent to 
check the disk against the md5sum provided on the web?  If your iso 
files check with the md5sum, then we can eliminate the possibility of a 
transmission error and move on to either media or CD drive.  My personal 
luck has not been good with downloads and CDs.  GEnerally I download an 
iso and burn at three different speeds and try all three and generally I 
have ONE of those three that will read reliably on another drive. 
 Sometimes CDs I burn on a CDRW won't read cleanly on the CDRW drive 
itself.  I have four burners and about a dozen test drives PD, CD, and 
DVD, and I get maybe 10% of my burns to read on all of them, and at 
least 40% of my burns will not read cleanly (data error somewhere) on at 
least half of my drives.

By the way, best approach with PM is to make only the windows partition 
and leave the rest of the drive unpartitioned, and ditch BootMagic 
altogether, because Diskdrake can make partitions for you and LILO and 
GRUB can boot just about any system there is and the mandrake tools for 
configuring them gives you an easy GUI.  If you use BootMagic, you can 
expect to spend a lot of time fixing what BootMagic does, and the number 
of folk here who know enough about it here to help will be much smaller 
than the number who can advise you about LILO or GRUB.


 
Civileme
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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-05 Per discussione Norman

dfox wrote:


  I assume /dev/nst0 is used if you just want to append extra

 Well, it's used in conjunction with 'mt' to position the tape to
 the proper point. One can have index marks (they work like the
 ones on VCRs) so if I am at beginning of tape and want to fast forward
 to right after the first archive, I do:

 # mt -f /dev/nst0 fsf1

 Use of the no rewind device is critical here. Obviously I want to write
 or read after the first index mark, otherwise I wouldn't use the mt
 command. If I put

 # mt -f /dev/st0 fsf1

Thanks,

Thought it might be something like that.

I used to look after a few Novell Servers where

I worked a few years ago so am used to tape

backups in that environment. Usually they

had gui front-ends ( we used Arcserve )

mt wasn't on my system so I have just

fetched an rpm off rpmfind.

The one I got is mt-st-0.6-3mdk.i586.rpm

which seems to be the most recent stable version

for Mandrake.

best wishes,

norm

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Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys, Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-05 Per discussione Todd Slater

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:02:26 -0400
Bill Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:13:55 -0400
 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 11:34:10AM -0700, Sevatio wrote:
   Check out this story:
   http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=internetnewsStoryID=1168474
  
  While I'm all for sharing and sticking it to the RIAA, MPAA, and the
  man, I tend to side with the artist on this issue. It would be nice
  to see a distribution system in which the artist could reap the
  benefits of his/her labor more than the record label.
  
  It's great to share as in free software, but you are projecting your
  ideas about sharing onto others. How do you make your living? Shall we
  all of a sudden decide that your labor should be shared for free,
  without any input from you? People who develop free software do so
  willingly. I don't think it's fair to project that onto others so you
  don't have to spend $15 on a crummy CD.
  
  Lately I'm having a hard time finding music I want to purchase anyway.
  That's the fault of the record labels and FM radio. Blah!!
  
  I know this will be an unpopular position on this list, so let me
  practice moving side to side and ducking . . .
 
 I couldn't disagree with you more on this one. These artists aren't
 getting shafted because people steal music online. They're getting
 shafted because record companies don't pay them squat compared to what
 they make the record companies. Let's face it. They're getting their
 money anyway because they're paid up front, and nothing beyond that.
 
 In fact this is actually helping the lesser known bands. Some of them
 are quite happy about the whole music sharing thing. They make their
 money doing concerts, not by selling records. This just gives them more
 exposure, enabling them to sell more tickets. Eventually, I think we'll
 see the end of record companies. Bands will all give their music away
 online so that people will go and see them live.
 
 Bill

Umm, I think you agree with me more than you disagree with me. I said I
side with the artist and against the record labels, RIAA, MPAA. I agree
that the artists get the shaft because of the record labels, but they also
get the shaft because people steal music online. Why does the fact that
they get shafted from the label, or that they get paid enough (according
to you)  make it OK to steal their music online?

I nearly always side with labor, and in the case of music, I think the
artists should get all they're entitled to. I don't care how much it is,
or if it seems ridiculous to you. I don't have a problem with professional
athletes making millions of dollars as long as the industry can support
them through ticket sales and merchandising. After all, the athletes are
who the fans pay to see. I'd rather the athletes get the money instead of
the owner and team shareholders. (I don't believe I've ever seen the owner
of a professional team who did not earn a handsome income, either.)

As far as up-and-coming bands are concerned, if they want to share their
music, that's great. My two brothers have a band and they released a CD,
and I posted it on alt.binaries.mp3.blues (with their permission, of
course). I understand that sharing can create exposure. However, these
bands _voluntarily_ share their music. When somebody takes a commercial
cd, rips it and shares it via Internet, the artist/band is not consulted
as to whether they would like to share their music to get more fans at
their concert; the ripper has made that decision for them.

I still think it's appropriate to ask how you would feel if society at
large decided that the fruits of your labor should be shared without your
consent, or that X amount of dollars is enough for you.

I'm not sure that bands want to make their living playing live
concerts--that's a hard life with a quick burnout. But if they do, that's
their choice. Let them give their music away. But if I want to sell a CD
that I write and perform, I sure as hell don't want anybody else deciding
for me. If the content is not worth paying for in a consumer's mind, it's
not worth owning and listening to.

I would love to see the end of record companies, and see the artists have
total control over their music and its distribution. 

Todd

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[newbie] no sound w/ msi mo_bo/via 8233 intergrated sound

2002-07-05 Per discussione iggy

hello, all!

i looked in the msi website for any info in regards to configuration under 
linux with no success.  looked in the mo_bo manual and noticed it said:

Chip intergrated (2 channel S/W audio)
- DIrect Sound AC97 Audio

since i dual boot, i checked amongst the broken windows and found that the 
sound card (chip) was a via 8233.

i'm thinking that i'm going to be shelling out pesos for a sound card, 
UNLESS... 
one of you good people know how to resolve my little problem!

many thanks to you
-iggy

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my windows broke.  so i replaced it with Linux.
i once was blind, now i see the light!



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[newbie] OpenGL RPM Installation

2002-07-05 Per discussione List User

Does anybody know of a 100% upto installation readme for the 29.60 nvidia 
OpenGL drivers for linux.  It seems that the link on the nvidia driver 
download page :

http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-2960/README.txt

Is down this evening, as I have been unable to access it from various 
machines.

All the other docs I have found refer to installing from source, which I dont 
really want to do as my Linux experience is now 48 hours old :-)



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Re: [newbie] Sound Problems (was BIG Trouble)

2002-07-05 Per discussione FemmeFatale

Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Thursday 04 July 2002 05:01 pm, you wrote:

 Not wanting to throw a monkey wrench into anything but for those with a 
 SBLive! like I have, I discovered that if you do not load the alsa player 
 and the associated alsautils during the actual installation of the OS, then 
 sound works fine in all cd players and midi drivers are listed.  Don't know 
 why that is, but it is. (now there were two very bad sentences, hope they are 
 understandable).  For what it is worth it may solve somebody elses' sound 
 problems.  
 

I found I can't NOT install alsa when I load KDE iirc.  Is that the case?

Thx.
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Re: [newbie] LISa

2002-07-05 Per discussione shane

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masses, saying:

 I installed komba2 - at least I think I did.  It certainly shows up on
 the list of installed packages, but I have no idea how to use it.

do you have a menu entry networking  other  komba2?

if that doesn't help enough fire off another yell... ;)

- -- 
... if you're a basic PC user thinking about buying XP, don't. It's 
basically malware. It harangues you with nagging, fake-friendly reminders 
to obtain a Passport and submit to product activation, and treats you like 
a child when you try to do anything heretical, like install a device driver 
of which it disapproves. -- Thomas C. Greene, Win-XP vs Red Hat 7.2, The 
Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk), 2001-10-30

shane
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Re: [newbie] Virii WAS I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK? [OT]

2002-07-05 Per discussione shane

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On Friday 05 July 2002 03:36 pm, robin did speak unto the huddled masses, 
saying:

 Actually, I wouldn't have minded if his ideas on spelling had gone
 further, but some of his other ideas were really kooky - IIRC he wanted
 to rewrite the Bible with no bad words or references to sex.

well at least it would be a lot smaller.  :)

- -- 
I knew I'd been living in Berkeley too long when I saw a sign that said 
free firewood and I said who is firewood and what did he do?

shane
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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.0

2002-07-05 Per discussione shane

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 I installed from the rpms and now have a /opt/kde3 directory.  I've
 chanded my path to include it's bin directory.  With or without the
 LD_LIBRARY_PATH set, I still get KDE2.

how are you starting it?  kdm?

if so you should comment out the line in /etc/profile.d/kde3.sh that say 
export path.  that should give you both a kde choice and a kde3 choice.  
the kde3 choice will likely be at the bottom of the list.

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am not. -Bertrand Russell

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.0

2002-07-05 Per discussione Barry Michels

I found this tutorial ( http://www.atechsol.net/kde3.html ) and it worked.  
KDE3 looks great!  I've got a liquid theme with transparent menus and a 
digitally created water wallpaper.  I'm still going through all the areas in 
Control Center to see what all can be changed

Barry

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  chanded my path to include it's bin directory.  With or without the
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH set, I still get KDE2.

 how are you starting it?  kdm?

 if so you should comment out the line in /etc/profile.d/kde3.sh that say
 export path.  that should give you both a kde choice and a kde3 choice.
 the kde3 choice will likely be at the bottom of the list.

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[newbie] FTPing mondo files

2002-07-05 Per discussione Miark

I'm trying to ftp an ISO image between two MDK computers
on my network, but the connection keeps timing out,
so the transfer never works.

How can get this ISO onto my other computer?

Miark



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Re: [newbie] Strange crashes when idle

2002-07-05 Per discussione Pippin Barr

AKA: Wit's End

Still trying to find the source of this memory leak in my system. I 
reinstalled XFree86 4.2 from the binaries off of their website, but this 
has not made any apparent difference.

The only real information I have is that it only leaks while X is running, 
so presumably that narrows down the culprits, but not enough for me to 
work out what it is. 

Someone please help! :) This is getting extremely frustrating.

Pippin
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And I said 'Oh boy... right... again.'

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[newbie] Playing CD,s

2002-07-05 Per discussione jbarron201

I,m useing 8.2 on a AMD 950 with 128 ram ,24X cd-rom
sound work,s ,CD player work,s with CD,s that I,ve bought
but skip,s some with any I,ve burned from the other
system which is the only CD-RW I have that in a Win2000
box with 566  cpu ,256 ram I,ve tryed slowing the Cd,s
down same thing.



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Re: [newbie] FTPing mondo files

2002-07-05 Per discussione D. Olson

Why not set up a network share using NFS or even Samba?

It is pretty easy to do using Webmin or MCC.




On Friday 05 July 2002 09:02 pm, you wrote:
 I'm trying to ftp an ISO image between two MDK computers
 on my network, but the connection keeps timing out,
 so the transfer never works.

 How can get this ISO onto my other computer?

 Miark



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Re: [newbie] Strange crashes when idle

2002-07-05 Per discussione dfox

 Still trying to find the source of this memory leak in my system. I 
 reinstalled XFree86 4.2 from the binaries off of their website, but this 
 has not made any apparent difference.

A good way to check for leaks is to run top in a separate window for
some length of time. You should be able to detect the leak - one or
more processes will continuae to increase in size steadily over time.

Note if you have jabberd installed - that's been confirmed as a major
leak. I personally found it when I was contemplating doing instant 
messaging with my brother - it's not worth the trouble. I can't see 
any other use for it. In less than a week uptime it had consumed nearly
300 megs of RAM. 

 The only real information I have is that it only leaks while X is running, 
 so presumably that narrows down the culprits, but not enough for me to 
 work out what it is. 

Is it X itself? I still have 4.1. Do you notice the server (X) growing
uncontrollably? There were some threads sometime back about this but
AFAIK it depended on what video card you were using. 

Speaking of bizarre things -- about 2 days ago I was just staring at my
X screen thinking what to do next. All of a sudden the whole X subsystem
crashed, bringing me down to a console. I have yet to figure why this
happened. Sometimes bringing down the X subsystem is a temporary fix
for heavy memory use, but my system was fairly lightly loaded at the
time.




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Re: [newbie] eye candy software like Oozic Reactor

2002-07-05 Per discussione dfox

 I haven't seen Oozic, but XMMS has a load of plugins, including G-Force.

Where's Battle of the Planets? My brother may just switch to Linux if 
there's one :).

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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-05 Per discussione dfox

 The one I got is mt-st-0.6-3mdk.i586.rpm
 
 which seems to be the most recent stable version

Should work fine.




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Re: [newbie] more BS from RIAA: Music Labels Plant Online Decoys,Mull Lawsuits

2002-07-05 Per discussione Sevatio

If you really want the artists to reap the fruits of their labour, you 
should their CD *directly* from them.

Here's the not well known the reason...

The typical top-40 artist earns only 70 cents per CD sale.  Yes, 70 
cents!  Of that 70 cents, they have to pay the studio and promo costs. 
This is why you've seen a few big-name artists file for bankruptcy. 
It's because they simply don't have much money at the bottom line.  This 
is also why you've seen bignamers rebel against their label... Dixie 
Chicks, Courtney Love, and etc... (this is not an example based on my 
taste in music).  So when you go to your CD store and buy a CD through 
those traditional channels, you're making the labels very fat and the 
artists very thin.

So buy the CDs from the artists if you want them to get any money.  For 
example, Aimee Mann earns about %50 on each CD sale.  That's a very good 
percentage compared to 70cents per $18 CD.




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Re: [newbie] .tar.gz files

2002-07-05 Per discussione dfox

 I keep seeing everyone putting '-xvfz'. That's never worked for me. I
 always use 'xvfz', with no '-'. I typed '-xvfz' by mistake once, and I

The problem is that the z is after the f - I would think that it would
be a problem. Sure enough, tar thinks I am able to open a file named
'z'. 

GNU doesn't want people using a leading '-'. I figure that's for
political reasons. Other commands need a '-' for options. Consider
if you omit the '-' on 'ls -l' you get 'l: no such file or 
directory.' Why try to get people to omit the '-' when using tar?

Long (--) options are nice, but they take too much typing.

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Re: [newbie] FTPing mondo files

2002-07-05 Per discussione Miark

Okay, I decided to try NFS:

On the server:

1) /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start
2) Put /mnt/win_d 192.168.0.7(rw) in /etc/exports
3) exportfs -ra

On the client

4) /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start
5) mkdir /mnt/m-win_d; chmod 777 /mnt/m-win_d  (as root, of course)
6) mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/mnt/win_d /mnt/m-win_d

And then it hangs, and I can't kill the process. 

I tried a rpcinfo -p on the server, and all is well. I then
did a rpcinfo -p 192.168.0.1 on the client, and it came up
the same, as it should. Both machines are running 8.2. 
Bastille isn't running. Why is it hanging?

Miark


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[newbie] Quota or no quota?

2002-07-05 Per discussione Miark

Same deal: I'm trying to get an ISO image onto my gateway machine,
and I decided to finally do it with a CD. Okay, so I burned the CD
and put it in the gateway machine, and tried copying it.

File size limit exceeded

What? The partition has 1.3GB available, and there is no quota 
for the user. What's this all about?!

Miark



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 - MP3 Audio not working

2002-07-05 Per discussione daRcmaTTeR

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, List User wrote:

 I have tried using both Noatun and Xmms with the same results from both,
 for all intents and purposes the player looks like it is working (equalizer 
 works etc) but not sound, volume controls on both players are definatly set 
 to max (adjusting doesnt help either)
 
 The only thing I can find that this might be is that my mobo has an onboard 
 sound card that mandrake has picked up even though I have this dsiabled in my 
 bios, and for some reasons mandrake is piping CD Audio though the SB Live and 
 MP3 audio though the mobo?? dunno
 

well...if you've good sound for everything else except the playing of 
mp3's then again I would suggest checking the volume level of the card 
where playing those files is concerned.

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Re: [newbie] FTPing mondo files

2002-07-05 Per discussione D. Olson

Hmm... I don't know. I don't do things the hard way... I'd love to know how, 
but I am too lazy to learn if Mandrake has tools that make it easy.

I am sorry, I can't help you with that, and I don't use Bastille or anything 
like that.



On Friday 05 July 2002 11:48 pm, you wrote:
 Okay, I decided to try NFS:

 On the server:

 1) /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start
 2) Put /mnt/win_d 192.168.0.7(rw) in /etc/exports
 3) exportfs -ra

 On the client

 4) /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs start
 5) mkdir /mnt/m-win_d; chmod 777 /mnt/m-win_d  (as root, of course)
 6) mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/mnt/win_d /mnt/m-win_d

 And then it hangs, and I can't kill the process.

 I tried a rpcinfo -p on the server, and all is well. I then
 did a rpcinfo -p 192.168.0.1 on the client, and it came up
 the same, as it should. Both machines are running 8.2.
 Bastille isn't running. Why is it hanging?

 Miark

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  Why not set up a network share using NFS or even Samba?
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Re: [newbie] Windows Games

2002-07-05 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 22:57:49 -0400, D. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 05 July 2002 09:27 pm, you wrote:
  On Friday 05 July 2002 02:55 pm, D. Olson did speak unto the huddled
  masses,
 
  saying:
   It's working? 30% of the Windows framerate is not what I call working.
   5 out of 70 games is not what I call working. Locking up systems is not
 
  maybe you should look into your setup?  i mean ymmv, but i have 9 of 10
  working and most better than they did in win2k...
 
 
 How's about some benchmarks then? I'd like to see which games you are 
 running, as well as the fps, if you can get it (some don't let you).
 
 
 Here's one of mine:
 
 Alice
 =
 WineX - 24 fps (tops)
 Windows - 70+ fps
 
 
 
 For more benchmarks, go and look at these (yes, they're from Tom's 
 Hardware...):
 
 http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q2/020531/images/image001.gif
 http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q2/020531/images/image002.gif
 http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q2/020531/images/image003.gif
 http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q2/020531/images/image004.gif
 http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q2/020531/images/image005.gif
 http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/02q2/020531/images/image006.gif
 
 
 Oh, and by the way, if you can't install a game like Baldur's Gate 2, why 
 does it get a rating of 4/5? That's pretty dumb. And yes, I got it to 
 actually run ONCE. It installed fine. Then I tested it again after a fresh 
 install of Mandrake 8.2, and whammo. Doesn't work now, and it starts asking 
 me for mythical CDs... Yes, I'd give THAT a 4 out of 5 rating...

Yes, games tend to be slower in WineX than in Windows. It should be remembered,
though, that Winex is a relatively new product. WINE may have been around for a
long time, but WineX's extensions are very new. DirectX is closed source, and so
WineX is the work of reverse-engineering, which is very difficult to achieve.
I'm sure that it will get better in the future.

As WineX develops, Transgaming will be able to make more deals and partnerships
with other games companies to make their games compatible with WineX. Some deals
have already been made, like the agreement with EA to make a GNU/Linux version
of 'The Sims'. In the future, games will be compatible with both Windows and
WineX out of the box, with no special GNU/Linux-only modifications.

I do, however, share your concerns that WineX may kill the native GNU/Linux
gaming industry. OS/2 once advertised itself as A better Windows than Windows,
in reference to its Win16 and Win32 compatibility. Developers took advantage of
that by making applications in Win16/32 so that they would run in both Windows
and OS/2, thereby killing the market for native OS/2 apps. The GNU/Linux market
is too small to sustain a commercial gaming market. Even Loki, which simply
ported games from Windows to GNU/Linux instead of making their own, couldn't
stay in business. IMHO, the best solution is to adopt the model used in Quake
2/3: use open standards to ensure that a game works in other OSs with little
modification. In Quake's case, all that is required to make the game run work in
GNU/Linux is to change a few megabytes of binaries. Environments like OpenGL and
SDL are designed to do just that.


-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

... I will claim that nobody else designed Linux any more than I did, and I
doubt I'll have many people disagreeing. It grew. It grew with a lot of
mutations - and because the mutations were less than random, they were faster
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[newbie] Re: cd burner brand WAS: Please can you Help

2002-07-05 Per discussione Stormjumper


- Original Message - 
From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Please can you Help

snipped

 Did you do a google search for md5sum and get the windows equivalent to 
 check the disk against the md5sum provided on the web?  If your iso 
 files check with the md5sum, then we can eliminate the possibility of a 
 transmission error and move on to either media or CD drive.  My personal 
 luck has not been good with downloads and CDs.  GEnerally I download an 
 iso and burn at three different speeds and try all three and generally I 
 have ONE of those three that will read reliably on another drive. 
  Sometimes CDs I burn on a CDRW won't read cleanly on the CDRW drive 
 itself.  I have four burners and about a dozen test drives PD, CD, and 
 DVD, and I get maybe 10% of my burns to read on all of them, and at 
 least 40% of my burns will not read cleanly (data error somewhere) on at 
 least half of my drives.

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wow, that sounds like terrible stats.
mind sharing the brand/models of your drives and media,
so that the rest of us can stay far far away from them. :)



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Re: [newbie] Windows Games

2002-07-05 Per discussione Ronald J. Hall

On Friday 05 July 2002 11:38 am, you wrote:

 I'm a little confused also, since anyone alive and not living under a
 rock has heard about Loki's demise.  Transgaming is the bridge from the
 gaming world to the world of linux, and it's working.  Nuff said.

 I tell you what...I get involved in a new install for a few days, and
 before I can get back, *everything* flies off the handle.  ;)

Thats the Linux world for ya... :-)

 Hey, DL...thanks for the Morrowind vote!  It helped tremendously. When
 you're ready let me know and I'll return the favor.

 Back in black,

 LX

No problem. Heck, since our tastes seem to run the same way, I'm sure your 
votes would be what I would do anyways.

Lets just hope we can get Morrowind running!

PS WIndog version of Neverwinter Nights is out - hope the 'Nix version is 
released soon!!!

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Fw: [newbie] encoding mp3s on mandrake ...

2002-07-05 Per discussione Rainer


- Original Message -
From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] encoding mp3s on mandrake ...


 thanks for the reply. don't have this app., under 'what to do' i've got
xmms
 and some wav recorder, possibly called kwav.


 - Original Message -
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] encoding mp3s on mandrake ...


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 On Friday 05 July 2002 6:25 pm, Rainer wrote:
  Asked this question previously, with very little detail supplied as a
  response - only what apps could be used. this is a newbie mailing
  list, right?
 
  right now i got ripperX-2.1-1.i386.rpm, will this work on man. 8.2.
  if there is something better, please let me know (and where i can
  find it). once that is settled i, -ivh the rpm from the command line?
  i can then find it where, /bin ? from there i can make a shortcut to
  the desktop? this is a gui app, i'm told, is it pretty
  straightforward to use for someone coming from windows and musicmatch
  or is there something i should know. the 'how to' made it seem pretty
  simple?

 There's probably a better application installed by default - look in the
 K menu for What to do | Enjoy music  video | Rip a CD. This runs grip,
 which is a very nice ripper. All you do is put the CD in the drive,
 select the tracks to be ripped from the Track tab, then select the Rip
 tab and press Rip+Encode.

 (Because of the way ripping is done in Linux it dumps the CD contents to
 [uncompressed] WAV files then converts them to [compressed] MP3; if you
 press Rip you'll just get WAVs].

 There's a useful change worth doing to the default configuration,
 though, namely changing the rip format from MP3 to OGG (Ogg Vorbis),
 which gives you smaller but better-quality rips. To do this in grip,
 select the Config tab, then the MP3 tab, then the Encoder tab, then
 change the Encoder: pulldown to oggenc, then rip as before.

 This is worthwhile reading about Ogg Vorbis:

 http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/index.html

 Alastair
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Re: [newbie] I thought Wal Mart had a deal with L-MDK?

2002-07-05 Per discussione Robert Pena


On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 01:35  PM, Miark wrote:

 I haven't seen OSX, but you can get the KDE taskbar icons to zoom.  Are
 you talking about a whole zooming taskbar?

 Imagine the shape of a snake as it swallows a large object whole. In 
 OSX,
 the taskbar takes on the same shape as you move the pointer over 
 something.
 That is, not only does the icon you're pointing at get big, but the icon
 on either side gets slightly bigger. Very cool.

 Miark

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I have OS X in the house along with Linux and XP. The effect is more 
like moving a magnifying glass over the object. It will enlarge the icon 
you move your cursor over and warp everything on either side until you 
move the cursor to next object.

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[newbie] System.map

2002-07-05 Per discussione Damian G


Hi...

well, i've just finished building my very first custom kernel
( well, actually not my first build, but it's my first SERIOUS one 
and i might like not tearing my OS apart this time ;oP )

and i'm a little confused about that System.map file.

the kernel i'm running now has it's own System.map
and the new one has another. right? ok.

in /boot i've got System.map which is a link 
to System.map2.4.28mdk.. 

ok, so in order to use my new kernel i've got 
to rename my new System.map to something like
System.map2.4.28mine and change that link to make 
it point to my file.

now, my question is:

 how am i supposed to keep both kernels?
i've checked lilo.conf and the boot sections seem
to have no reference to these files...

what do i have to add in order to make lilo choose
the corresponding system.map whenever i choose a kernel 
to boot?

thanks.

Damian



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Re: [newbie] Sound Problems (was BIG Trouble)

2002-07-05 Per discussione Dennis Myers

On Friday 05 July 2002 08:06 pm, you wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Thursday 04 July 2002 05:01 pm, you wrote:
 
  Not wanting to throw a monkey wrench into anything but for those with a
  SBLive! like I have, I discovered that if you do not load the alsa
  player and the associated alsautils during the actual installation of
  the OS, then sound works fine in all cd players and midi drivers are
  listed.  Don't know why that is, but it is. (now there were two very bad
  sentences, hope they are understandable).  For what it is worth it may
  solve somebody elses' sound problems.

 I found I can't NOT install alsa when I load KDE iirc.  Is that the case?

 Thx.
 Femme
Not as far as I can tell.  I use the flat list always, to pick and choose 
what gets into the install and those two alsa packages I alsa leave out. Ha! 
Sometimes I just can't help it. Anyway, when looking at file manager  
installable they are both available to be installed, ergo they are not. And, 
KDE runs just fine without them on my desktop. HTH
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 - MP3 Audio not working

2002-07-05 Per discussione daRcmaTTeR

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, List User wrote:

 After further investigation it would seem that the only audio I can play is 
 CD audio, no wav or mp3 files will play, mpg movies dont have any sound, it 
 seems like the entire sound server is failing somewhere as cd audio might be 
 done via hardware instead  (can anybody confirm)
 
 So far I have :
 - checked Kmix and all volumes are unmuted and set to max
 - Checked Aumix and the same
 - Tried in different apps, Xmms, Noatun
 - Tried different sound servers in - Control Center-Sound-Sound Server-Sound 
 I/O (this is currently set to auto detect, open sound system doesnt seem to 
 do anything different, and the sound server fails to restart on Advanced 
 Linux Sound Architecture
 - Check in hardDrake and the settings for the Sound Card all seem to be fine
 
 I cant think of anything else

Ok...now things are beginning to click a bit. are running Alsa sound 
server? if it is running, turn it off via Mandrake Control Center. what 
you're experiencing sounds all too familiar, but it's been a little while 
since I personally have had to deal with it. I _do_ know that turning off 
the Alsa server is part of the problem/solution. also, what kind of card 
do you have?

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Re: [newbie] Quota or no quota?

2002-07-05 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:51:32 -0600, Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Same deal: I'm trying to get an ISO image onto my gateway machine,
 and I decided to finally do it with a CD. Okay, so I burned the CD
 and put it in the gateway machine, and tried copying it.
 
 File size limit exceeded
 
 What? The partition has 1.3GB available, and there is no quota 
 for the user. What's this all about?!

Open /etc/security/limits.conf in an editor. There should be a section that
looks something like this:

  # limit size of any one of users' files to 100mb
  * hardfsize   10

Comment out the second line with a #.

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Apache inside.



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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 - MP3 Audio not working

2002-07-05 Per discussione daRcmaTTeR

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, List Account wrote:

 THIS IS NOT SPAM MAIL, SINCE WHEN DOES SPAM AS LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS??
 
 I AM NOT A HARVERSTER
 
 Come on people, just becuase I have setup an email address to manage 
 the multiple mailing lists I access is no reason to witch hunt me.
 
 And in reply to the first suggestion to my problem, the volume controls 
 in the application are fine.  The app is Noatun which came with the 
 default multimedia install of Mandrake

dude! chill!! we're just messin with ya.

what happens when you listen to the .mp3's with XMMS?

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Re: [newbie] Quota or no quota?

2002-07-05 Per discussione Miark

Excellent--how do I put the change into effect?

Miark



Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith:

 On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:51:32 -0600, Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Same deal: I'm trying to get an ISO image onto my gateway machine,
  and I decided to finally do it with a CD. Okay, so I burned the CD
  and put it in the gateway machine, and tried copying it.
  
  File size limit exceeded
  
  What? The partition has 1.3GB available, and there is no quota 
  for the user. What's this all about?!
 
 Open /etc/security/limits.conf in an editor. There should be a section that
 looks something like this:
 
   # limit size of any one of users' files to 100mb
   *   hardfsize   10
 
 Comment out the second line with a #.
 
 -- 
 Sridhar Dhanapalan
 
   Linux is like a wigwam. No windows, no gates.
   Apache inside.
 
 



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Re: [newbie] Quota or no quota?

2002-07-05 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

It's been a while since I did this so I'm not too sure. Try logging out then
logging back in. If that doesn't work, do a reboot (the simplest way).

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 23:55:46 -0600, Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Excellent--how do I put the change into effect?
 
 Miark
 
 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith:
 
  On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 21:51:32 -0600, Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Same deal: I'm trying to get an ISO image onto my gateway machine,
   and I decided to finally do it with a CD. Okay, so I burned the CD
   and put it in the gateway machine, and tried copying it.
   
   File size limit exceeded
   
   What? The partition has 1.3GB available, and there is no quota 
   for the user. What's this all about?!
  
  Open /etc/security/limits.conf in an editor. There should be a section that
  looks something like this:
  
# limit size of any one of users' files to 100mb
* hardfsize   10
  
  Comment out the second line with a #.

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan

  Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.



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[newbie] DEC Alpha Server

2002-07-05 Per discussione Inhabitantofzion

HI

I recently was given by a business friend of mine one of the above a 3000R 
(well I had to give him a small fee for a few beers).

It is fully functioning and has the 500mhz Alpha processor on it and 2gb of 
on board ram etc etc... does not have any SCSI HDD's with it.

He says it can only run Win NT4  because they kludged the BIOS on these 
machines. They have coded the BIOS to Win NT 4 only.

Does anybody on here have an idea what they might have done to the BIOS 
(How I find out what they have done) and what would I have to do to get 
around what they have done?

If somebody could get me started in the right direction that would help. I 
really wanted to get Linux installed on it...

John






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