RE: [OT] Stats about IT

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron) (ESS)]

She meant to say 95.3% are.

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: EXT :RE: [OT] Stats about IT

Or just make them up...as 95% of all statistics are.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT

You're going to want to check with the research firms:

Gartner, IDC, Forrester, ITIC, etc (http://itic-corp.com/)




Additionally, Google the question and see what references you find...
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On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Oliver Marshall 
mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com>> wrote:
Does anyone know of a good source of statistics about IT? I'm thinking of the 
kind of thing we can use in reports or to bring up on topics like "80% of 
companies see a return on investment from an increase in IT spend, 20% of 
companies without backup fail in a year, 40% of IT Managers go mad in the first 
year" that kind of thing.

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RE: EXTERNAL:Re: psexec wont' accept login/password to execute locally

[Alverson, Tom (XETRON)]

TRY:

psexec -u domain\user -p userspassword "path\to\MyBatchFile.cmd"

-Original Message-
From: Mike Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Mike Gill
Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: psexec wont' accept login/password to execute
locally

On 12/14/2010 1:26 PM, Mike Gill wrote:
> Your syntax u...@domain isn't correct. Should be domain\user. So
> 
> psexec -u domain\user "path\to\MyBatchFile.cmd"


Well, that *almost* worked 

C:\>psexec -u domain\user "C:\Windows\System32\CSCRIPT.EXE
C:\PHA_Scripts\ES1_NativeArchiveSuspend.vbs"

PsExec v1.98 - Execute processes remotely
Copyright (C) 2001-2010 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

Password:
PsExec could not start C:\Windows\System32\CSCRIPT.EXE
C:\PHA_Scripts\ES1_NativeArchiveSuspend.vbs:
The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.

Not sure why it doesn't like my call to execute the VBscript ... I coded
the command specifically because the calling script (not the VBscript)
will not inherit the environment when it is executed by the backup
program, prior to backup.

I will try again, calling a CMD file that actually issues the
"C:\Windows\System32\CSCRIPT.EXE
C:\PHA_Scripts\ES1_NativeArchiveSuspend.vbs" command ...

Thanks! That's progress ...


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RE: EXTERNAL:RoboCopy - please verify my syntax?

[Alverson, Tom (XETRON)]

I use the /copyall option to copy all file attributes (security etc).
You MUST put /R:1 or /R:0 in there or else it will retry infinite times
on any file that is in use.   I also use /E to include empty directories
too.

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: EXTERNAL:RoboCopy - please verify my syntax?

 

Cloning a hard drive with permissions in order to speed up a P2V
migration on a server with a 250GB D: Drive

 

I'm cloning the D: disk ahead of time to a VMDK, so that when it comes
to the P2V Process, I can just do the C: Drive - saving a ton of
downtime.

 

I'm doing this while files on the D: Drive are in use, so obviously,
those will be skipped doing Robocopy.  I'm thinking when I am ready to
shut down all the services on the source server, I can just re-run my
robocopy command to copy any skipped files and update any security
changes.  Then P2V the source.

 

My command:

robocopy D:\ \\Destination\d$\ /mir /sec /secfix /log:C:\RoboCopyLog.log

 

Sound legit?  (I'm very new to RoboCopy - always used other programs.
Time to get comfortable with it).

 

TIA,

Sam

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RE: EXTERNAL:RE: Robocopy /SEC

[Alverson, Tom (XETRON)]

I bet the difference is the /SEC (or /COPYALL) option requires a lot
more network traffic to retrieve the security information for each and
every file (even files that already exist on the destination) to see if
any changes in the security parameters are needed.  You could run
FILEMON (or it's replacement PROCMON) from Sysinternals (Microsoft) to
see the file activity on one end.  You could run it without the /SEC
option most of the time as the copied files will just get their security
from the parent directory by default, and then run it occasionally with
/SEC to fix up any permission oddities.

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: EXTERNAL:RE: Robocopy /SEC

 

About 24K files, 3.6GB see below.  It looks like all the time is in the
"Extras" column.

I don't see anything of interest in the event logs of either server or
in any DC. 

 


--

 

TotalCopied   Skipped  MismatchFAILEDExtras

 Dirs :  398175  3906 0 012

Files : 24606   370 24236 0 057

Bytes :   3.646 g  147.11 m   3.503 g 0 03.08 m

Times :  34:31:10   0:32:41   0:00:00  33:58:28

 

Speed :   78651 Bytes/sec.

Speed :   4.500 MegaBytes/min.

 

Ended : Wed Jul 14 05:01:13 2010

 

 

 

 

Here's a log from before I added the /SEC switch:

 


--

 

TotalCopied   Skipped  MismatchFAILEDExtras

 Dirs :  3903 0  3903 0 0 0

Files : 2423114 24217 0 0 0

Bytes :   3.613 g5.63 m   3.607 g 0 0 0

Times :   0:36:43   0:01:09   0:00:00   0:35:33

 

Speed :   85009 Bytes/sec.

Speed :   4.864 MegaBytes/min.

 

Ended : Thu Jun 17 19:06:44 2010

 

 

 

 

FWIW, I'm copying from a Win 2003 SP2 server to a Win 2008 server over a
VPN (DSL at one end, cable at the other)

The command line running on the remote server is:

c:\robocopy\robocopy D:\Data "\\MainOfficeServer\BranchNameShare" /MIR
/SEC /LOG:c:\robocopy\DailyBackupLog.txt /R:10 /w:10 /TS 

 

 

 

 

Ralph Smith

Gateway Community Industries

845-331-1261 x234

 



From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Robocopy /SEC

 

How much data are you moving? I use /SEC or /COPYALL and I don't see a
24x increase in copying 4-5GB and thousands of files. Anything in the
event log of the source, target, or DC's?

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

From: Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Robocopy /SEC

 

I've been using RoboCopy for years to copy files from remote offices
back to a server at the main office and it has worked great.  Recently I
had to for the first time use the backed up files when rebuilding a
server at one of those remote offices and realized that because I was
only using the /MIR switch I didn't have any of the security settings.
Not a big deal because I have them documented and was able to recreate
them.  However, I decided to add the /SEC switch for future backups.

 

What I have found is that whereas in the past it used to take on the
average 30 to 60 minutes every night, since adding /SEC it now runs for
24 hours or more, even though the actual copy time is only 30 minutes or
so.

 

Does anyone know if this is typical behavior when using RoboCopy with
/MIR /SEC?

 

Ralph 

 

 

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RE: EXTERNAL:report of disk space utilization

[Alverson, Tom (XETRON)]

Or freeware WinDirStat.

-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: EXTERNAL:report of disk space utilization

Wondering what tools people find the most useful on Windows 2008 server
for
reporting disk/folder space utilization.  In the past, I've used Disk
Data
(a shareware program) but I find it incredibly slow.

Basically, I want to be able to analyze a particular folder and know the
size of each subfolder underneath it.  

What are people using?  I can't believe 2008 doesn't have this built in?
I
tried FSRM but I didn't find anything specific in there for what I'm
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RE: EXTERNAL:report of disk space utilization

[Alverson, Tom (XETRON)]

Treesize pro from Jam software.

-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: EXTERNAL:report of disk space utilization

Wondering what tools people find the most useful on Windows 2008 server
for
reporting disk/folder space utilization.  In the past, I've used Disk
Data
(a shareware program) but I find it incredibly slow.

Basically, I want to be able to analyze a particular folder and know the
size of each subfolder underneath it.  

What are people using?  I can't believe 2008 doesn't have this built in?
I
tried FSRM but I didn't find anything specific in there for what I'm
looking for.



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RE: laptop encryption

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I saw very little difference on a laptop with an Intel SSD.  Maybe 5%
less disk speed using ATTO.

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: laptop encryption

 

Bitlocker has a huge impact on high-performance disks (e.g. SSDs). On
the plus side, Bitlocker has the management tools in place for recovery.

 

It's all when and good to use disk-level encryption or TruCrypt (I use
the latter). But if you have 10k+ machines to manage, you need
centralised recovery management...

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 1:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: laptop encryption

 

I have only used bitlocker so far and have not notice performance issue.
Is truecrypt going to punk out my portables?

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

I opted for encryption at the hardware level via FDE disks.  No
performance decrease, however, no central management.  It's so easy and
set and forget, that I don't mind that.


Sam

 

From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: laptop encryption

 

There was a post last week about HIPAA compliance and a small part of
that discussion there were a couple of encryption programs mentioned.  I
have bitlocker running on the OS's that happen to come with it, and need
something for those that don't.  Might consider OS upgrade if the
encryption piece is too costly.

 

anyone using something they LOVE?  any chance there is a program that
will report encryption status back to a management station?

 

tiafah.

 

Jeff

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: WTF. no really, WTF?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Tipper gets to keep the internet and some carbon credits in their divorce 
settlement.

-Original Message-
From: Cliff Partlow [mailto:cliff...@cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF. no really, WTF?

He had a guy working for him that invented the internet.


"From The Sunny Side Of The Street!"
Cliff P.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 11:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WTF. no really, WTF?

Yes, but keynote speeches are normally given by people that are "experts" in 
the arena.  How is Bill Cliinton an expert in security?

>>> Steven Peck  6/2/2010 11:25 AM >>>
Some people migrate into an arena where they are professional speakers.  They 
are paid to speak on things.  Keynotes, etc.  Event organizers set great store 
by these things.

That's all this is.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Ziots, Edward 
wrote:
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:06 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: WTF. no really, WTF?
>
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>
> Bill Clinton and McAfee. Virus and anti-virus?
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RE: Office 2010 is up on Technet/MSDN

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Does this mean the keys we are getting now are only good for one (or
two) installs instead of the normal 10 that you get with an MSDN
subscription (or whatever the number is now that they won't say).

 

From: James Hill [mailto:james.h...@superamart.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office 2010 is up on Technet/MSDN

 

For those of you that might be looking to implement it soon and are
going to use KMS the following may be handy to know:-

 

1.   You'll need to download and install
KeyManagementServiceHost.exe to setup an Office KMS host. This is
different from a Windows KMS host.

2.Install it on Windows 2008 R2, 2003 (but check the docs as
some extra work is required in this case) or Windows 7 Volume License
editions. Oddly, it is NOT supported on Vista or Windows 2008 Server.

3.   The files from technet are not enabled for MAK or KMS use.
You'll have to wait until they are available on the VL site next week.

 

The MAK and KMS keys are up on the Licensing site but no files yet.

 

We are going to be deploying companywide very soon.   Our Windows  7
deployment has been on hold as we'll roll both out at the same time. 

 

James.

 

 

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RE: Nagios folks....

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

You don't need a whole Nagios to do that.  You can just run PSLIST to
get a list of all processes and use FINDSTR to search for the process
name.  Then you can use the errorlevel from FINDSTR to send you an
email if it does not find the process in the list.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Nagios folks

 

Can Nagios look for specific process in memory? I have a service that
kicks off a couple of executables and want to know if I can have Nagios
alert me if they aren't there.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

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RE: Source Code for password system stolen in Google Hack (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Probably "porker" rather than "dumpling".   Don't you know that Google
is run by Kanamits and their motto is "To Serve Man"??

 

 

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 4:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Source Code for password system stolen in Google Hack
(UNCLASSIFIED)

 

You're calling GMAIL users "dumplings"?  fascinating.

 

From: Kent, Larry CTR US USA [mailto:larry.k...@us.army.mil] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Source Code for password system stolen in Google Hack
(UNCLASSIFIED)

 

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Did all you Gmail Grassones see this one?

 

http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/source-code-password-system-sto
len-google-hack/2010-04-20?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=internal

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Acronis remote backups d2d

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I am doing this with "Backup Exec System Recovery" which is basically
the same thing as Acronis (a live while windows is running "ghost"
image).  I do the initial backup to a local hard drive, and then copy
those files over the WAN to a remote site.  BESR has actually
incorporated that feature into the later versions of the program
(additional offsite copy), but I am still using ROBOCOPY for that part
as it has been working fine.

Tom

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From: jgarciaitl...@gmail.com [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Acronis remote backups d2d

Any done any regular off site (remote) backups with acronis?

I have a client that wishes to do
>From branch that has bussiness fios to small coporate office that also
has fios bussiness(50 down 20 up) and connect to each other via ipsec.

Any ideas (acronis backups, remote)?
Thanks
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RE: BSOD MS10-015

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

One user reported that the rootkit was able to hide the infected file
(in his case atapi.sys) from his Mcafee antivirus, but when he removed
the hard drive and scanned it from another computer as a secondary
drive, Mcafee found the rootkit as soon as he accessed the file
(atapi.sys).In his case he got the bluescreen but then uninstalled
the MS10-015 patch by booting from a recovery CD.  The computer appeared
to be OK, but still had the rootkit installed.

 

Check it out near the end of these blog comments:
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=8209

 

 

 

From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:marc.maiff...@fireeye.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BSOD MS10-015

 

I know it was mentioned here before but it has now been confirmed
through multiple sources that the blue screen issues that are happening
as it relates to MS10-015 are because of rootkits be installed on
machines. So for those of you whom posted, or whom have seen it in your
environment, that your system is blue screening after this patch there
is a high degree of certainty that your computers are in fact
compromised and backdoored with a rootkit. I would not simply just wipe
and reimage a machine but investigate a bit to know what may or may not
have been stolen from your organization etc... 

 

I am still looking for a few live systems to play with so if you had a
system with this issue or are having a system with this issue I'd be
happy to take a look for you. 

 

-Marc

 

 

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RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Remember back when we were all using Altavista and this new kid "Google" came 
along.  We dropped Altavista like a rock.  Same thing could happen to Google.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?

This too shall pass...

 

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RE: Penetration Testing

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Nessus is no longer free unless you are just going to use it on your home 
network.


"Commercial organizations that use the Nessus vulnerability scanner must 
purchase a ProfessionalFeed subscription to scan their network, obtain support, 
updates to their database of vulnerability checks and compliance auditing. Each 
ProfessionalFeed costs $1,200 per year per Nessus scanner and can be purchased 
from Tenable's ProfessionalFeed Partners or directly from Tenable's E-commerce 
site."


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Penetration Testing

Nessus, OpenVAS and a whole host of other tools.

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RE: Workstation time sync

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

What happens when you run:

 

w32tm /resync

 

 

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Workstation time sync

 

The time was wrong on a PDC for one of our domains, about 3 minutes off.
We have since changed the NTP server data on that server and it has the
correct time now. Do I really have to wait 8 hours before the
workstations sync to the correct time? Is there a way to make them sync
sooner? Other then going to each workstation or having them all
restarted of course.

 

James

 

 

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RE: Cheap recovery for dead HD?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Thanks for all the replies.  If it would spin up I have Ontracks
recovery tools that could get whatever data was there.  I guess the
freezer is worth a try, but I thought that was more for old school
drives where the heads were not lining up with the tracks any more.  For
this drive, the failure to spin would have to be one of several things:
Bad controller board that drives the motor (If I had an identical drive
I could try swapping the board); bad motor; frozen motor bearings; or
"Stiction" where the heads become stuck to the platters.  I ran across a
bad case of "stiction" long ago with an ST-225 (remember those?).  On
this drive you could actually try to spin the motor from outside the
drive.  I turned real hard with my fingers until the platters finally
broke loose.  When I powered it up after that I heard clunk clunk clunk
clunk clunk   I took the drive apart and one of the heads was still
stuck to the platter and had ripped loose of the head arm.  Good thing
there was no valuable data on that drive.

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cheap recovery for dead HD?

On 26 Jan 2010 at 14:26, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)  wrote:

> A friend has an external Seagate 1TB drive that died on them and
it has
> the only copy of a lot of the photos they took. I took the USB
enclosure
> apart and connected the SATA drive up directly to a PC, but the motor
does
> not spin at all (you can hear the heads move some at power up). She
took it
> to a local shop where they said it would cost $300 to recover the
data, but
> then changed that to $1000 when they found out it was a "large" drive
> (1TB).
> 
> Does anyone know of a good affordable place that will do this?
Their
> pictures are not worth $1000 at this point.

Try the freezer trick, it worked for me once.

Also, spinrite (grc.com, $89, 30-day moneyback guarantee if it doesn't
help) 
can sometimes help IF the drive will spin up.

Ontrack data recovery (google 'em) will give estimates by email.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




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Cheap recovery for dead HD?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

A friend has an external Seagate 1TB drive that died on them and it has
the only copy of a lot of the photos they took.  I took the USB
enclosure apart and connected the SATA drive up directly to a PC, but
the motor does not spin at all (you can hear the heads move some at
power up).  She took it to a local shop where they said it would cost
$300 to recover the data, but then changed that to $1000 when they found
out it was a "large" drive (1TB).
 
Does anyone know of a good affordable place that will do this?  Their
pictures are not worth $1000 at this point.
 
Tom 

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RE: Windows 7 and DHCP puzzler

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

It could be that the Windows 7 computers boot up faster and the switch
you are connecting to is not ready by the time the PC is making its DHCP
request.  This can happen if you are using Cisco switches that are set
up to run a spanning tree test every time a new connection is made to a
port.  Google (or Bing) "spantree portfast dhcp" for a bunch of info or
read this Cisco document:

 

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps700/products_tech_note
09186a00800b1500.shtml

 

Tom

 

From: Eisenberg, Wayne [mailto:wayne.eisenb...@pbvllc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 and DHCP puzzler

 

Has anyone noticed any problems with Windows 7 getting an IP address
from DHCP? In our pilot testing, we are noticing that a significant
portion (>30%) of our users are not successfully getting an IP address
from the local DHCP server. It happens with wired and/or wireless,
across make and model, different antivirus programs. It can happen if
the DHCP server is on the same subnet and also if it is on a different
subnet (ip helper address configured in the router). No firewalls turned
on. Everything was fine for a while, and then some laptop users started
having problems getting an address from their home router. Some folks
can get an address at home, but have trouble getting it at the office.
If you give them a static IP, they can work. That is obviously not a
viable solution. We need DHCP to work no matter where they are - just
like it works for XP. :) BTW, none of our XP users have any problems at
all. This is strictly a Win7 issue. We've tried removing some MS patches
among other things, but nothing fixes it across the board. Any ideas?

 

Points and ice cream will be awarded to anyone who can come up with an
answer. :)

 

Thanks,

Wayne

 

 

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RE: Print Servers

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

You could just throw the printers in the trash and buy some HP OfficeJet
8500 printers on sale for about $80 each.  They are cheaper per page
than laser printers (they use large ink tanks - black and 3 color
tanks).  They have built in Ethernet (similar to Jet Direct but nicer).

Tom

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Print Servers

Can anyone recommend inexpensive print servers that do not require 
proprietary software. Basically looking for something like a Jetdirect
for 
USB printers that I can setup standard TCP/IP ports on workstations that

want to print to it. Jet directs are too expensive for this application 
(company).

Thanks,

James 


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RE: Defragmenting servers

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

That lets you schedule a defrag, but then it appears to run at full
speed.  Diskeeper is always looking for idle time and tries not to
impact server performance.  Is there some option in MyDefrag that I did
not see for continuous defrag?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers

 

Mydefrag.

 

From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Defragmenting servers

 

"The only real benefit of a commercial product is they tend to be less
obtrusive to the users when they kick off"  - I don't agree with this at
all.  

 

I use Diskeeper because it defragments continuously using only idle
server time.   What free product will do this?

 

Tom

 

From: Alex French [mailto:alexcfre...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Defragmenting servers

 

Hi,


We use Diskeeper (terrible product - forever crashing) to defrag our
entire server estate. It's got a central management console but I
believe Perfect disk is a better product.

 

It depends on the number of users accessing the data and how big your
volumes are. You can get a very real performance degradation if you have
15 million fragmented files (especially if some are large).


Also - boot time CHKDSKs can be improved if the volume is defragged.

 

The only real benefit of a commercial product is they tend to be less
obtrusive to the users when they kick off. File re-ordering can be
useful on some systems but it depends if it's SAN storage with large
cache or local storage with very little cache...

 

Alex

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Defragmenting servers

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

"The only real benefit of a commercial product is they tend to be less
obtrusive to the users when they kick off"  - I don't agree with this at
all.  

 

I use Diskeeper because it defragments continuously using only idle
server time.   What free product will do this?

 

Tom

 

From: Alex French [mailto:alexcfre...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Defragmenting servers

 

Hi,


We use Diskeeper (terrible product - forever crashing) to defrag our
entire server estate. It's got a central management console but I
believe Perfect disk is a better product.

 

It depends on the number of users accessing the data and how big your
volumes are. You can get a very real performance degradation if you have
15 million fragmented files (especially if some are large).


Also - boot time CHKDSKs can be improved if the volume is defragged.

 

The only real benefit of a commercial product is they tend to be less
obtrusive to the users when they kick off. File re-ordering can be
useful on some systems but it depends if it's SAN storage with large
cache or local storage with very little cache...

 

Alex

 

 

 

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~   ~

RE: OT-ish: GMail annoying mail clipping

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

We had a trash pickup company here locally that used to have signs on
the side of their trash trucks that said:

 

"Double your trash back if not satisfied."

 

From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT-ish: GMail annoying mail clipping

 

I've managed to negotiate a 50% discount...

2009/12/9 Alverson, Tom (Xetron) 

Demand a refund.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

That sounds like what Symantec CPS (continuous protection server) does.
I installed it once and it seemed to work fine but have not used it in
production.

 

Symantec CPS used to be sold separately, it now comes "free" with Backup
Exec 12.5 (the normal tape backup software) but it is a whole separate
install.

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

 

Yeah... I saw that... still not convinced it's not using a sledge hammer
to kill a mosquito. J What I want to do is replicate the changes from
one SAN to another over a VPN (2 Mbit on my end and 5 Mbit on the remote
side) for D/R purposes.

 

  

 

From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

 

BESR is a "ghost" like product that works while windows is running.
Once the initial "ghost" image is created, it can do incremental images
after that, and you can control how often it starts over and does a new
full image.  You can easily do a bare metal restore, and they support
restores to different hardware.  It also supports copying the backup
data to a second location (say an offsite file share) for redundancy of
the backup data.  You can make the initial backup to a locally connected
drive or something over the network.  When you restore, you can restore
everything (bare metal restore) or browse for individual files or
folders.  You don't need to worry about the incremental backups as it
"synthesizes" a view of a full backup for each of the incremental
backups.  I use it to backup the OS partition on all of our servers and
run it every night (and keep the latest two images).  I am running the
2009 version (on Windows 2003 servers).  The new 2010 version adds
support for Windows 7 and server 2008R2.

 

I think you can download a trial and give it a good test before
purchase.

 

Tom

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

 

One of my vendors is proposing using Symantec Backup Exec System Restore
to mirror two SANs. That seems like it would have a LOT of overhead and
would want to take a backup of the "primary" SAN and restore it to the
D/R SAN every time. Considering I'm trying to do this over a WAN link,
and not a dedicated point-to-point link either, I don't think I want to
try backing up and restoring several terabytes!

 

Am I mistaken in my understanding? All I want to do is copy the changes
from the "main" SAN to the "D/R" SAN. Would Backup Exec System Restore
do that?

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~<><>

RE: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

BESR does not talk to tape drives.

 

From: Jeff Johnson [mailto:jjohn...@hydraflowusa.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

 

John, unless there has been a change since BESR 8.0, you will be unable
to drive your tape library.  I had to go with a combination of BESR 8
and Backup Exec 12.  Using Backup Exec 12 for my tape library.

 

I absolutely love BESR 8 and use it as my primary D/R software.

 

Jeff Johnson

Systems Administrator

714-773-2600 Office

714-773-6351 Fax

 

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

 

Hmm... I guess one advantage of using BESR would be that I could also
use it to drive a tape library at the D/R site for an additional
"off-line" backup. Hmm... something to think about.

 

  

 

From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

 

BESR is a "ghost" like product that works while windows is running.
Once the initial "ghost" image is created, it can do incremental images
after that, and you can control how often it starts over and does a new
full image.  You can easily do a bare metal restore, and they support
restores to different hardware.  It also supports copying the backup
data to a second location (say an offsite file share) for redundancy of
the backup data.  You can make the initial backup to a locally connected
drive or something over the network.  When you restore, you can restore
everything (bare metal restore) or browse for individual files or
folders.  You don't need to worry about the incremental backups as it
"synthesizes" a view of a full backup for each of the incremental
backups.  I use it to backup the OS partition on all of our servers and
run it every night (and keep the latest two images).  I am running the
2009 version (on Windows 2003 servers).  The new 2010 version adds
support for Windows 7 and server 2008R2.

 

I think you can download a trial and give it a good test before
purchase.

 

Tom

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

 

One of my vendors is proposing using Symantec Backup Exec System Restore
to mirror two SANs. That seems like it would have a LOT of overhead and
would want to take a backup of the "primary" SAN and restore it to the
D/R SAN every time. Considering I'm trying to do this over a WAN link,
and not a dedicated point-to-point link either, I don't think I want to
try backing up and restoring several terabytes!

 

Am I mistaken in my understanding? All I want to do is copy the changes
from the "main" SAN to the "D/R" SAN. Would Backup Exec System Restore
do that?

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: OT-ish: GMail annoying mail clipping

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Demand a refund.

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT-ish: GMail annoying mail clipping

 

Is anyone else getting really hacked off by Gmail putting out this 

[Message clipped]  View entire message

on just about everything coming from the list? I can't find a workaround
or setting for it anywhere, apart from occasional sanctimonious online
drivel about "open another email account because GMail is only for
personal stuff". I'm just about ready to jump ship to another mail
provider because of it.




 

 

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~   ~

RE: OT-ish: GMail annoying mail clipping

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

You can choose your default message format in Outlook 2007:  plaintext, html or 
richtext (word).  You can also have a separate choice for emails sent to the 
"internet"

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT-ish: GMail annoying mail clipping

Yet another reason to hate MSFT's Outlook. Can't turn off Word as your
editor? How stupid is that?

Kurt


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~   ~

RE: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

BESR is a "ghost" like product that works while windows is running.
Once the initial "ghost" image is created, it can do incremental images
after that, and you can control how often it starts over and does a new
full image.  You can easily do a bare metal restore, and they support
restores to different hardware.  It also supports copying the backup
data to a second location (say an offsite file share) for redundancy of
the backup data.  You can make the initial backup to a locally connected
drive or something over the network.  When you restore, you can restore
everything (bare metal restore) or browse for individual files or
folders.  You don't need to worry about the incremental backups as it
"synthesizes" a view of a full backup for each of the incremental
backups.  I use it to backup the OS partition on all of our servers and
run it every night (and keep the latest two images).  I am running the
2009 version (on Windows 2003 servers).  The new 2010 version adds
support for Windows 7 and server 2008R2.

 

I think you can download a trial and give it a good test before
purchase.

 

Tom

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec Backup Exec System Restore 2010

 

One of my vendors is proposing using Symantec Backup Exec System Restore
to mirror two SANs. That seems like it would have a LOT of overhead and
would want to take a backup of the "primary" SAN and restore it to the
D/R SAN every time. Considering I'm trying to do this over a WAN link,
and not a dedicated point-to-point link either, I don't think I want to
try backing up and restoring several terabytes!

 

Am I mistaken in my understanding? All I want to do is copy the changes
from the "main" SAN to the "D/R" SAN. Would Backup Exec System Restore
do that?

 

  

 

 

 

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~   ~<><>

RE: Anybody ever get Vista Ent 64 bit to run on an HP DL360 G5?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

The DL380 G5 (and probably the DL360) have an unusual network interface.
HP has an intermediate network driver and a separate low level driver.
I think this is so they can do the "teaming" where both Ethernet ports
are active in a redundant or parallel fashion.  Because of these special
drivers (and maybe special hardware?) you can only use it in Vista if HP
made a special Vista 64 driver, or if you could hack their Server 2008
drivers somehow to Vista would take them.  Seems easier to just put a
normal network card in the machine if that was your only problem.

If you are trying to use the P200, P400 or P800 disk controller you may
run into the same driver problems?

-Original Message-
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anybody ever get Vista Ent 64 bit to run on an HP DL360 G5?

Have an unfortunate request to have Vista Ent running on a G5.

It installs but the Broadcom Netextreame IIs will not start.

Hp of course does not support Vista.

Tried the 2008 and 2003 drivers.

Tried the drivers from Broadcom.

Still no luck.   Just the message the system could not initialize.

Am I correct to assume it will not work unless they get another NIC?

Thanks!

Mathew

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RE: Symantec SEP on 2008 R2

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

The problems people are having with SEP seem to be with the firewall
portion or the "threat protection" thing.  The antivirus part is pretty
much the same as SAV 8, 9 or 10 (which is fairly trouble free).  If you
do a custom install and only install the antivirus part (which is what
Symantec was saying to do with servers anyway unless they have changed
their tune) you would probably be fine.  Make sure you use MR5 (latest
release) in any case.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Symantec SEP on 2008 R2

Anyone have any success getting SEP to work with 2008 R2?  Using
Endpoint 11.  Getting ready to attempt Symantec's support site, but
maybe one of you guys already knows the answer...

Thanks,

Joe


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RE: SOHO Color Laser MFP recommendation?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I just bought the HP Office Jet Pro 8500 from SAMS club ($189) since the
claimed cost per page is cheaper than laser and the new inks are
permanent.  Has built in Ethernet (wireless model available for more $),
does scanning, printing, copying and faxing.  The ink cartridges are
very large compared to low end inkjet printers (2200 pages per black
cartridge).  The scanner is pretty decent and scans over the Ethernet
connection from my Windows 7 PC like it was made for it (using the built
in Win7 scanning interface).  The printer even has a web interface with
printer status, ink levels etc.

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5&item=425519

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: SOHO Color Laser MFP recommendation?

Looking for recommendations for a color laser MFP for a one-man
financial-
advisor type, needs more speed than he's getting out of his inkjet, plus
the 
permanence of laser.  He'll also be using it as a copier to replace his
~1500 
copies/month that he's currently paying $150/month to his landlord for
the use 
of a xerox machine.

Anyone used the HP Color Laserjet 2320fxi?

TIA

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




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RE: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

They DID send the black helicopter, he just didn't hear it.



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 6:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?


  Best conspiracy theory seen so far: Microsoft did this deliberately,
in order to make people fear cloud computing (Google) and put their
trust back in traditional client/server (Microsoft).

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2009/10/12/the_sidekick_data_disaster/ind
ex.html

  Somebody please send a black helicopter over to Andrew Leonard's
property.  ;-)

* * *


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RE: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

No, no, no - you need to use your Captain Kirk voice:

 

 

Must  resist..   making.obvious.
joke...

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

 

Must resist making obvious joke...

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott 
wrote:

 Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
you loose an entire server cluster??

-- Ben


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RE: Sysinternals does it again

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

That is nice.  If you wanted to use the VHD's just for backup, is there
a VHD "browser" (like Ghost Explorer)?

 

Tom

 

From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Sysinternals does it again

 

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ee656415.aspx

 

This is very cool, especially with Windows 7's new support for VHD boot.
I suspect this will be one of my favorite utilities

 

 

 

...Tim

 

 

 

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RE: BES 4.1 syncing

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

+1 for Martin's delete/undelete tip.  That has worked for me in the
past.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BES 4.1 syncing

One more time. I have not had the problem reappear after this and the
end
user can do this themselves.
This works for calendar as well. Just change part 2 to calendar rather
than
address book.

You can try the steps below to see if this resolves the issue.

1)Ask the BlackBerry smartphone user to delete the Desktop [SYNC]
service book from the BlackBerry smartphone, then undelete it by
completing
the following steps: 
a.On the Home screen of the BlackBerry smartphone, go to Options >
Advanced Options > Service Book. 
b.Highlight Desktop [SYNC], display the menu and click Delete. 
c.Confirm the delete before exiting the Service Book option. 
d.Navigate back to the Service Book option, display the menu and
click
Undelete. 

Warning: The following procedures will delete either all data, or all
data
and applications on the BlackBerry smartphone. Back up the data prior to
performing the procedure. For instructions, see KB12487.
2)These steps only apply to BlackBerry Device Software 4.5 to 4.7.

To delete the data in the Address Book application over the wireless
network
and reload it from the BlackBerry(r) Enterprise Server, complete the
following
steps:
a.On the BlackBerry smartphone, open the Address Book application. 
b.Display the menu and click Options. 
c.Type RSET. 
Note: For BlackBerry smartphones that support SureType(r) technology,
use the
multi-tap input method.

If wireless synchronization of the Address Book application is turned
on,
the following message will appear:
This will erase your Desktop address book, and reload it from your
server.
Continue?
After the data in the Address Book application has been deleted, the
following message will appear:
The Desktop address book has been wiped. It will be repopulated from
your
server.
The Address Book application will be re-populated with Address Book data
from the BlackBerry Enterprise Server and the following message will be
displayed:
Repopulation of the address book

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RE: Home email servers (was: MSE is released...)

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Better be the Exchange 2010 RC or you're gonna lose some geek cred.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Home email servers (was: MSE is released...)

Not until I get the additional 3 phase power installed.

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:57 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Home email servers (was: MSE is released...)
> 
> n Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Steven M. Caesare
>  wrote:
> > Hmmph. I only have one Exchange server at home. I figured it was
> enough for
> > the 4 of us.
> 
>   What, you're not running your home email on an active/active
> continuous replication cluster?  ;-)
> 
> -- Ben



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RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Correct.  Until they improve the "raw" speed of the drives, the faster
interface helps mainly to speed up reading and writing to the drives
onboard ram cache, which is a good thing but doesn't help applications
where you need sustained high speed reading and writing (video, raw data
collection etc).

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:
> It promises a sustained transfer rate of just 140MBps ...

  I presume they mean 140 Mbyte/sec, which is 1140 Mbit/sec (ignoring
overhead).

  In other words, it can't even saturate first-generation SATA (1500
Mbit/sec), let alone second-generation (3000 Mbit/sec), let twice
alone the new 6000 Mbit/sec some people are so excited about.

-- Ben

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~   ~

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RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I suspect this new drive claiming 140MB/sec sustained rates is running 2
heads in "parallel" since this number is about double what you see in
"normal" drives.  They could have sped up the rotational speed and/or
upped the bit density to get this performance as well.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> I'm wondering why they have not done this yet as well.
> Using more that 2 heads in parallel would at some
> point be enough to saturate existing SATA interfaces.

  Unless they *are* already doing it, and the current speeds of hard
drives reflect that.

  Do you have any reason to believe they are not already doing so?

-- Ben

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

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RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

The heads are all locked together.  There is no need to have them move 
independently.

 

From: Scott Kaufman [mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

 

I'm very curious as to when did harddrive manufacturers swich to having 
independently operating heads?  Is this a new development that I missed?

For as long as I can remember, the heads (regardless of how many there are) are 
operated by a single head motor.  So while it can interleave data across 
multiple platters, all the heads would still be at the same location on the 
platters.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)  
wrote:

I'm wondering why they have not done this yet as well.  Using more that
2 heads in parallel would at some point be enough to saturate existing
SATA interfaces.  There is no way they could do 8 heads in parallel and
have enough bandwidth (even with 3.0 Gbit/sec SATA) to prevent
saturating the SATA bus.

"Flash" hard drives have been doing this since the first ones came out
several years ago (running multiple sub-systems in parallel) to overcome
the slower speeds of the Flash chips.  I don't know if the modern flash
hard drives need to do this any more (the flash chips might be fast
enough now).  The first Flash hard drives ran about $30,000 for a 30GB
drive, and they were in the 3.5 in form factor to fit all the chips.

Tom


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
>>  Modern hard drives can sustain, what, maybe 0.4 to 0.6 Gbit/sec?
>> Even the 3 Gbit/sec we have now is much higher than that.  How is
>> moving to 6 Gbit/sec going to help?  :)
>
> All they need to do is upgrade the (on-board) controllers to operate
all
> the heads in parallel.  For a 4 platter drive (8 heads) they could get
> an immediate 8X improvement in real read and write speeds.

 But that's got nothing to do with any particular revision of the
SATA standard, right?  You can interleave data across heads whether
it's SATA, SCSI, or PATA.  Even PATA hard drives have been presenting
synthetic C/H/S geometry for something like a decade now, so it's not
like the controllers don't already have to do the job.

 And given that *current* hard drives can't even keep up with SATA at
1.5 Gbit/sec, I would then ask: Why haven't they done this already?
Or have they already, and the speeds we see today are *with*
interleaving?

 (I'll ignore for the time being that most consumer hard disks these
days only have one or two heads anyway.)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

 

 

 

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RE: Print server driver updating

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Thanks for the input, Ben.  One problem with the Xerox drivers is an
annoying interaction with Acrobat (I need to test the new one to see if
it even helps).  The problem is that when you select a non-default paper
size (say 11x17) normally Acrobat will pick that up and you can have
acrobat set to "fit to page".  Unfortunately with the Xerox driver,
there is an "input paper size" and an "output paper size" and the normal
paper selection GUI only changes the output paper size (acrobat thinks
you are still in 8.5x11).  To get acrobat to print correctly, you need
select "other size" and you will get a GUI that lets you set both input
and output paper sizes (setting both to 11x17) to get the correct
printout.

The problem with the HP driver (4.5) happens when I try to set up a
direct print from a PC to the printer (not going through  the print
server).  I had to use version 4.7 on the PC's that I set up to print
directly.  I am guessing that the version 5.0 has fixed this issue and
would let me get everything running the same version.

Not sure I want to upgrade based on the "encouragement" I am getting
here  (DON'T DO IT MAN!!)

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Print server driver updating

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> I would like to update the print drivers on our Windows 2003 SP2 print
> server ...

  Why?  What problem are you trying to solve?

> I could just update the drivers on the print server for the existing
> print queues, but I don't know if the clients will automatically pick
up
> the new drivers, or if they will need to delete and re-add the queues
or
> what?

  In theory, if one updates the drivers on the print server, the next
time the client logs in or "touches" the print queue, it will
automatically pull down the updated driver.

  In practice, we've found HP's drivers tend to self-destruct when
subject to this.  I suspect it's a function of how complicated the
driver is, and how well written it is, and HP sucks at both right now.

  The "generic PCL5" driver we hacked together from the HP LJ 4 driver
that came with Windows XP seems to be fine.  The Lexmark drivers also
seem okay, but we've only got a few Lexmark printers deployed so far.

-- Ben

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RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

It may have been done already (2 heads running in parallel).  I have a
Seagate 1.5TB drive that is surprisingly fast (115MB/sec sustained) that
may be doing this, or they may just have a very high bit density.  The
750GB drives we have run about 70MB/sec with the same test.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

I have to agree with Ben here. If it were easy to do, it would have been
done already.

I suspect the improved bus speeds will help devices that aren't current
spinning disks (maybe flash based drives), or where we are able to
present an array of disks at the end of the bus (e.g. external direct
attached storage connected via eSATA)

Cheers
Ken


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RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I'm wondering why they have not done this yet as well.  Using more that
2 heads in parallel would at some point be enough to saturate existing
SATA interfaces.  There is no way they could do 8 heads in parallel and
have enough bandwidth (even with 3.0 Gbit/sec SATA) to prevent
saturating the SATA bus.  

"Flash" hard drives have been doing this since the first ones came out
several years ago (running multiple sub-systems in parallel) to overcome
the slower speeds of the Flash chips.  I don't know if the modern flash
hard drives need to do this any more (the flash chips might be fast
enough now).  The first Flash hard drives ran about $30,000 for a 30GB
drive, and they were in the 3.5 in form factor to fit all the chips.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
>>  Modern hard drives can sustain, what, maybe 0.4 to 0.6 Gbit/sec?
>> Even the 3 Gbit/sec we have now is much higher than that.  How is
>> moving to 6 Gbit/sec going to help?  :)
>
> All they need to do is upgrade the (on-board) controllers to operate
all
> the heads in parallel.  For a 4 platter drive (8 heads) they could get
> an immediate 8X improvement in real read and write speeds.

  But that's got nothing to do with any particular revision of the
SATA standard, right?  You can interleave data across heads whether
it's SATA, SCSI, or PATA.  Even PATA hard drives have been presenting
synthetic C/H/S geometry for something like a decade now, so it's not
like the controllers don't already have to do the job.

  And given that *current* hard drives can't even keep up with SATA at
1.5 Gbit/sec, I would then ask: Why haven't they done this already?
Or have they already, and the speeds we see today are *with*
interleaving?

  (I'll ignore for the time being that most consumer hard disks these
days only have one or two heads anyway.)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Disk based backup

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

If they did the performance boost would be obvious with benchmark
testing.  The maximum sustained data transfer rate (read or write)
depends on how much data is stored on each "track" of data (1 revolution
of the platter with the head not moving) and the speed that the platter
is rotating.  All of the speed increases in the last few years have been
a result of the increased "bit-density" on the platters.  I have seen
one Seagate 1TB drive with suspiciously higher numbers than other
drives, but I don't know if that is due to a denser platter, or maybe
they are using 2 heads at a time.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Disk based backup

What makes you think they don't today?

-sc

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~   ~

RE: Disk based backup

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

All they need to do is upgrade the (on-board) controllers to operate all
the heads in parallel.  For a 4 platter drive (8 heads) they could get
an immediate 8X improvement in real read and write speeds.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Disk based backup

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Terry Dickson
 wrote:
> Keep an eye on Sata, Sata3 is coming fast and
> the speed will a HUGE difference.

  Modern hard drives can sustain, what, maybe 0.4 to 0.6 Gbit/sec?
Even the 3 Gbit/sec we have now is much higher than that.  How is
moving to 6 Gbit/sec going to help?  :)

-- ben


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~   ~

Print server driver updating

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I would like to update the print drivers on our Windows 2003 SP2 print
server but I'm not sure what the best approach would be.  I am currently
running the HP "universal" PCL6 driver 4.5 and would like to upgrade to
the new 5.0 drivers.  I also have the Xerox "universal" Postscript
driver installed and they have a new version too.

I could create all new print queues and make the users change to the new
queues, but I don't know if installing the new drivers on the server
would keep them separate or not.

I could just update the drivers on the print server for the existing
print queues, but I don't know if the clients will automatically pick up
the new drivers, or if they will need to delete and re-add the queues or
what?

Any advice?

Tom

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~   ~

RE: TraceRoute Timout -- Normal???

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Get pingplotter (www.pingplotter.com).  Free eval and nagware after
that.  It will do repeated traceroutes and graphs the results over time
(including graphing the intermediate hops if desired).

-Original Message-
From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: TraceRoute Timout -- Normal???

I've never paid enough attention. When youguys do a tracert to your
wan links, is it normal to get a timeout somewhere along the way, like
maybe right after your border router?
I'm assuming the answer is 'NO', but I just wanted to verify.

I have users complaining about speed. I see some high latency, and I
see a timeout right after my wan router, but traffic is getting
through despite the timeout.

Any insight is appreciated.


Thanks in advance,
Jon

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RE: Checking whats using the disk

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Handle with give you a snapshot of all processes and the file handles opened by 
each process.

 

Filemon (also from Sysinternals/Microsoft) will give you a live scrolling view 
of file activity that can be very useful for this purpose.  

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 4:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Checking whats using the disk

 

Hi chaps,

 

Can anyone recommend a tool that we can use to check which process/user is 
hammering the drive of a terminal services machine? Ideally one that logs 
results over time so that we can correlate things at the end of the day and see 
when the speed issue occurred (by liaising with users) and then check those 
times with the disk reporting app thingy.

 

Any suggestions ?

 

Olly

 

 

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~   ~

RE: Apple vs Microsoft?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Frozen Tundra.

 

From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Apple vs Microsoft?

 

BES server

- Original Message - 

From: John Cook   

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:25 PM

Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft?

 

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Cell (352) 215-6944

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From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft?

 

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-sc

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft?

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft?

Original copy.  

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft?

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Apple vs Microsoft?

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RE: Confused a bit re: sbs.

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I tried the small business edition of the internet, but I could only connect to 
5 websites.


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Confused a bit re: sbs.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Phillip Partipilo wrote:
> I'm kinda just playing with the waters with SBS 2008 here, its a side
> project on the bench.  Never having used SBS, is it really totally this
> dumb?  Take a peek at this blurb of incorrectness.  I'm not connected to the
> internet?  Sure looks like I am...

  You need the Small Business edition of the Internet.  ;-)

  Maybe you need to connect in Microsoft Internet Explorer before the
rest of Windows figures out that the Internet is there?  I've seen
things like that before.

-- Ben



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RE: Robocopy Alternative

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I got XP026 from the robocopy copy gui link you posted and it has the /dcopy:t 
option to copy directory timestamps.

Thanks! 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Robocopy Alternative

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alverson, Tom
(Xetron) wrote:
> I just downloaded it from your link below, and did not find any newer
> version of ROBOCOPY that was installed.

  I get ROBOCOPY Version XP026.  What did you get?

> The ROBOCOPY that comes with Vista has an option to copy the
> time and datestamps of the folders you are copying

  As does Version XP026.  The "/DCOPY" switch.

> Also, there is a new "replacement" for ROBOCOPY called "RichCopy" ...

  Yah, I saw that.  I'm not a big fan of GUIs so I pretty much ignored
it.  Your point about multithreading is a good one, though, so maybe I
should give it another look...

-- Ben

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RE: Robocopy Alternative

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

OK, I found it now in C:\windows\system32.  I will see if it has the
option to preserve folder date/time.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Robocopy Alternative

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Joseph L.
Casale wrote:
> There's an issue with acl's using xp010 but xp026+ works? It seems
that the
> vista and 2008 versions won't run on a W2k3 machine...

  As Mike Gill hinted at: Download the "RoboCopy GUI" utility.  The
package includes a copy of ROBOCOPY.EXE version XP026 that will run on
2000/XP/2003.  To the best of my knowledge, this is the only way to
obtain that version.  I've run the actual GUI EXE from that package a
grand total of once in my life.  :)

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2006.11.utilityspotlight.asp
x

-- Ben

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RE: Robocopy Alternative

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I just downloaded it from your link below, and did not find any newer
version of ROBOCOPY that was installed.  The ROBOCOPY that comes with
Vista has an option to copy the time and datestamps of the folders you
are copying that I would like to have, but the Vista EXE will not run on
Windows 2003 server or XP.

If anyone know where to get this new version of ROBOCOPY that will work
in Server 2003 please post it.

Also, there is a new "replacement" for ROBOCOPY called "RichCopy" that
you can get from:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2009.04.utilityspotlight.asp
x

I tried it a few months ago but it kept crashing on me.  I just
re-downloaded it and it seems that they have updated the EXE last month
so I will do some more testing on it. It is multithreaded so it could
possibly give you some speed improvements over ROBOCOPY.

Tom


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 3:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Robocopy Alternative

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Joseph L.
Casale wrote:
> There's an issue with acl's using xp010 but xp026+ works? It seems
that the
> vista and 2008 versions won't run on a W2k3 machine...

  As Mike Gill hinted at: Download the "RoboCopy GUI" utility.  The
package includes a copy of ROBOCOPY.EXE version XP026 that will run on
2000/XP/2003.  To the best of my knowledge, this is the only way to
obtain that version.  I've run the actual GUI EXE from that package a
grand total of once in my life.  :)

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2006.11.utilityspotlight.asp
x

-- Ben

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RE: Amusing

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Cached mode actually makes the problem worse.  Much worse.  Once the
message is sent, every single client that is running will see the new
email within about 30 seconds and they will all download a separate copy
of it to store in their local caches.  If the Exchange server is on a
WAN link, that link will become unusable while the download is
happening, which could take a long time for 9MB times 3000 users.
Anyone else trying to use the WAN bandwidth will only get 1/3000 of the
speed of the WAN, and the lag will go through the roof.  If you turn off
cached mode, then at least people will read it at different times and
spread out the load.  The only way around the problem is to not send
large emails to lots of people, or disable cached mode (and then get
complaints about slowness) or never have the Exchange server in a
location separated by a WAN link from the users.

 

Tom

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Amusing

 

Almost.

 

SIS is per database. So if you had those 3,000 users in one mailbox
store then it's roughly only 9MB stored, however if you had them say in
3 mailbox databases, then it's roughly 27MB and so forth.

 

Note that SIS is gone in Exchange Server 2010.

 

Also take into account cached mode which is Outlook 2003 and newer
behavior (unless you turn it off) which would mitigate your scenario of
450 users opening the attachment. Even then so, it shouldn't take down a
server. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Amusing

 

SIS means that while he sent that 9MB file to 3000 users, if all 3000
are on the same Exchange server then there's only 9MB storednow, if
say, 450 of them decide to open the file or download the file to their
desktop around the same time, you might have an issue

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

From: Owens, Michael [mailto:michael.ow...@dys.ohio.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Amusing

 

Yeah. :)

 



From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Amusing

So I take it you weren't brought on as an Exchange Consultantjust
happen to be there during this particular incident?

 

- Sean

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Owens, Michael
 wrote:

I really wish I knew more about exchange, I am a citrix admin through
and through I used exchange once! :)

 



From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:54 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Amusing

 

That shouldn't have happened ... You have bigger problems than a single
attachment. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
 

Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian
 

 

From: Owens, Michael [mailto:michael.ow...@dys.ohio.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Amusing

 

Haha, they dont have it set up here, I am a consultant just brought
on... and the exchange server was slowed to a halt...

 



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Amusing

Probably a vid that was already on YouTube! 

 

Thank god for Single Instance Storage

 



From: Owens, Michael [mailto:michael.ow...@dys.ohio.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Amusing

Amusing user dunce moment:

 

We just had a user (one of the higher ups, obviously since not everyone
has access to do this) send a 9 meg file to all users. (3000)

 

Hilarity ensues. 

 



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RE: The industrialization of hacking

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Or as Clouseau would say: I believe everything and I believe nothing. I suspect 
everyone and I suspect no one.

-Original Message-
From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:m...@marcmaiffret.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The industrialization of hacking

Ben Nagy use to work for me at eEye Digital Security where we helped pioneer 
some of the earliest forms of fuzzing before fuzzing was even a word used by 
the security industry. The field has changed dramatically in recent years as 
one that started with simply spewing randomized data at various protocols and 
file types, into the more sophisticated enterprise class applications that we 
have today.

The one positive thing you have to keep in mind is that the reason that all of 
us in the research world are advancing the techniques used to discover 
vulnerabilities is because it is becoming harder to find vulnerabilities. The 
simple fuzzer of yesterday is not affect in finding vulnerabilities and 
requires a "cloud fuzzing" type of system that turns fuzzing into more of a 
numbers game with some luck of the rolling of devices or malformed data as it 
were. The thing you should fear most is the leaps ahead that happen in 
vulnerability research, the new classes of attacks, etc... A good example of 
this is SQL injection vulnerabilities.

That being said some people whom have taken a more scientific and well thought 
out approach to things like fuzzing can also end up with systems that are very 
robust and have great statistics in number of tests and such but never really 
find many vulnerabilities. This goes back to one of the core concepts I use to 
preach to my researchers over 10 years ago that there are no mistakes in 
fuzzing technology for the goal is to be as randomly valid and invalid all at 
the same time.

Bruce Lee said it best, "Using no way as a way, using no limitations as a 
limitation."

Bruce Lee also said something that the security industry has yet to grasp, 
"Simplicity is the key to brilliance."


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Print Server default all users to duplex?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Right after I clicked "send" I got a complaint that people were getting
Black and White printouts.  In my testing, the machines I tried did not
pick up the duplex and B&W defaults, either from removing/re-adding the
printer, or on a newly installed machine.  Apparently what I was doing
worked for some people.  I then saw that there is a separate "Printing
Defaults" button at the bottom of the "Advanced" tab on the printer
properties.  This appears to be where you are supposed to set this type
of default settings.  It brings up the same screen as the "printing
preferences" button, but apparently this is where you are supposed to
set defaults.  I'll do some more testing now and see how reliably
clients are picking up the new setting.

 

From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Print Server default all users to duplex?

 

I am trying to make the default settings for printers on my Windows 2003
print server set for duplex and B&W (on color printers) for cost
savings.  I know this had worked once in the past when I changed the
"printing preferences" on the print server, but I was using a "standard"
print driver at the time.  Now I have switched to the HP and Xerox
"Universal" print drivers and neither one seems to push those defaults
to new clients who attach to those print queues.  Is there some other
way I should be setting these defaults?

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Print Server default all users to duplex?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I am trying to make the default settings for printers on my Windows 2003
print server set for duplex and B&W (on color printers) for cost
savings.  I know this had worked once in the past when I changed the
"printing preferences" on the print server, but I was using a "standard"
print driver at the time.  Now I have switched to the HP and Xerox
"Universal" print drivers and neither one seems to push those defaults
to new clients who attach to those print queues.  Is there some other
way I should be setting these defaults?

 

Tom

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Shadow Copy Management

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

That is much harder.  It sounds like it might be possible with the "vssadmin 
delete shadows" command but you would need to know the "ShadowID" to delete.  
You can get these by running the "vssadmin list shadows" command but that dumps 
them all and you would need some "eleet" scripting skills to parse out the 
ShadowID from the output of that command.


===
Syntax
vssadmin delete shadows /for= [/oldest | /all | 
/shadow=] [/quiet]Parameters
 
Parameter  Description  
/for=
 Specifies the volume for which the shadow copy is to be deleted.
 
/oldest
 Deletes only the oldest shadow copy.
 
/all
 Deletes all of the shadow copies for the specified volume.
 
/shadow=
 Deletes the shadow copy specified by ShadowID. To get the shadow copy ID, use 
the vssadmin list shadows command. When you type a shadow copy ID, use the 
following format, where each X represents a hexadecimal character: 

---- 
/quiet
 Specifies that the command will not display messages while it is running.
 

Remarks
You can delete only shadow copies that have the client-accessible type.


-Original Message-
From: Steph Balog [mailto:validemai...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shadow Copy Management

Thats the problem, i already created schedule but I need it to cycle out 
certain snaps. Like I take snaps every 2 hours each day, but the next day I 
want those snaps to go away. And then the ones I take every 6 hours, I want 
those to go away ever 2 days. And the ones I take once a day for a week, I want 
those to go away after a week. And then the ones I take once a week for 3 
months, I want those to disappear when they are 3 months old.

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~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Shadow Copy Management

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

When you create the default snap schedule, I believe it just creates a 
"scheduled task" that shows up in control panel.  You should be able to modify 
the schedule there to do what you want.  You need to click the option to "show 
multiple schedules" and then with the advanced button you can make up any crazy 
schedule you want.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Steph Balog [mailto:validemai...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Shadow Copy Management

Is there any tools, any scripts, etc. that will allow me to manage multiple 
snapshot schedules. What I would like to do is, keep 12 snap shots in a 24 hour 
period, 2 snaps in a 48 hour period, and than 1 snap going back each day for 1 
week and than 1 snap per week going baclk 3 months. (will not exceed 64 snap 
max). But I need to make sure that it doesnt keep snaping once every 2 hours 
over and over again. Help!
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~   ~

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~   ~

RE: Windows updates strrangeness

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

You can run this script to force the install:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa387102(VS.85).aspx



-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows updates strrangeness

No term services on this one.
Logged off and back on as admin and still no bubble.
Thanks for the reply.
Glen.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows updates strrangeness

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Glen Johnson  wrote:
> Problem is I don't see the balloon icon which would allow me to choose
which
> ones to install.

  Is Terminal Services enabled?  If so, log out all the other Terminal
Server sessions, log out the console session, then log back in on the
console as an admin.

  On our systems, at least, Windows Update will only notify in the
first session it sees.

-- Ben

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~   ~


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~   ~


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~   ~

RE: path longer than 1023- actually only about 200 or less

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I ran into a situation where I just did a simple ROBOCOPY /E (every
subdir) of a VISTA HD I had removed from a laptop.  There was some funny
kind of file link (on all VISTA HD's) that fooled robocopy into creating
a super long recursing directory much like Jack's.  I was unable to
delete the directories with Windows Explorer, or any number of command
line things I could think of.  I found someone on the net who had done
the same thing and they "invented" the trick of using ROBOCOPY to undo
what it had done.  There is some kind of command line option in ROBOCOPY
that you need to use when copying a VISTA HD to not follow the funny
(link) files so it does not go nuts and make millions of subdirs.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: path longer than 1023- actually only about 200 or less

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:51 PM, SMREKAR, JACK 
wrote:
> some one did something stupid in a programming class.

  Okay, so it's not filesystem corruption.  That's good.

> but is there also a way to tell what files or directories are above
the limit or can not be deleted

  From the sound of your original problem report, all you have to do
is run your backup software.  ;-)

  An easier method, from a command prompt:

DIR /A/S/B > NUL

  "/S" to traverse subdirectories; "/A" for all files; "/B" for a bare
list.  The "> NUL" discards standard output, but allows errors to be
reported.  Any overly long path name will be reported as "The
directory name %s is too long".  You can save the errors to a file
with:

DIR /A/S/B > NUL 2>long.txt

  Then any of the methods already provided to fix the issue.  I like
Tom Alverson's idea of using ROBOCOPY to mirror an empty directory.
(ROBOCOPY is not as brain damaged as the rest of Windows, and can
handle paths up to the limit of NTFS.)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: path longer than 1023- actually only about 200 or less

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Here is a great way to kill the directories of death (too deep to navigate):  
Use robocopy to copy an empty directory to one of the lower levels with the 
/MIR option (mirror) like this:

Robocopy c:\emptydirectory K:\Staff And Students\Programming 
Classes\NHS\Eng086037\web applet project\Coords\Coords  /MIR

 

(make an empty directory c:\emptydirectory first)

 

This should empty the Coords directory and wipe out any lower levels dirs.

 

Tom

 

From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: path longer than 1023- actually only about 200 or less

 

This is the path

K:\Staff And Students\Programming Classes\NHS\Eng086037\web applet 
project\Coords\Coords\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java

 

Here is the output from the command line  

 

K:\Staff And Students\Programming Classes\NHS\Eng086037\web applet project\Coord

s\Coords\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java

\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.

java>cd coords.java

 

K:\Staff And Students\Programming Classes\NHS\Eng086037\web applet project\Coord

s\Coords\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java

\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.

java\Coords.java>cd coords.java

The system cannot find the path specified.

 

K:\Staff And Students\Programming Classes\NHS\Eng086037\web applet project\Coord

s\Coords\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java

\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.java\Coords.

java\Coords.java>

 

The name cords.java is a folder in the GUI and when run from the command prompt 
will also present itself as a folder.

We are guessing that the issue is that the folder has a ��� And a 4 letter 
extension.

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A+  N+  Server +

 

MCSA-RGB

 

From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: path longer than 1023- actually only about 200 or less

 

What do you see from a command prompt?

 



From: SMREKAR, JACK [mailto:smre...@aasd.k12.wi.us] 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: path longer than 1023- actually only about 200 or less

 

I have some files that my backup is saying are longer than 1024 characters, but 
when you put the path into MS Word and do a character count it is only about 
200. What the real issue is, from what I can tell, is that you get to a certain 
point in Explorer of the double clicking and you stop. There is a folder there 
but you cannot go any further. You cannot delete that folder or any folders 
that are above that one. You cannot rename any of the folders down the path, if 
you right click on the last folder that you get to, you do not get the normal 
options, no security optio  no rename option and so on. I have tried to do this 
in Explorer window and even have gone to the command line to see if I can 
delete them that way But still no luck.

2 questions,

1.

2.   How can I find those files

At this moment my backups are failing because of this and so far the software 
company has not come up with an answer for either one of the questions.

Thanks 

 

Jack Smrekar

Appleton Area School District

920-993-7062 Ext. 2123

A N+ Server +

 

MCSA-RGB

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Stickers

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I have a Microsoft Office basketball hoop hanging in my cubicle.  I
think I used to have a little basketball that went with it but have not
seen that for a while.  It's a real (plastic) orange hoop (about 9 inch
diameter) with a real net on it.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Steven Calvanese [mailto:scalvan...@membersolutions.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Stickers

I have some Microsoft Office mints.

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~   ~

RE: OT: Dell Studio 540 - Hardware Issues

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I have seen systems that have raid capability on the motherboard, but
they are disabled until you go  into the CMOS and enable them.  Once
enabled, there will be a prompt during boot up to hit some key
combination to get into the RAID setup screen.  

 

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Dell Studio 540 - Hardware Issues

 

That's where my initial confusion stems from. I fully expected to see
some type of RAID Configuration utility option during boot, but I don't
recall any such option. I believe the fast boot option is enabled in the
BIOS. Is it possible this would prevent the RAID Config option from
being displayed during boot, or does that simply skip memory tests,
etc.? This is a brand new machine I haven't had a chance to even dig
into (one of the those Best Buy deals that were too good to pass up).
Unfortunately, my Fiance did have the opportunity to transfer all of our
photos, data, etc. prior to this debacle.

 

- Sean

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Jon Harris 
wrote:
> Are you sure they put the correct processor in place?
> Could it be a x32 bit processor now instead of the x64?

 Can you even *get* a processor without x86-64 support anymore?

 Anyway, that shouldn't cause "Missing Operating System".  Lack of
x86-64 for Win64 would cause the OS to puke early on during boot, but
"Missing Operating System" is generated by the BIOS when it can't find
a boot signature on any available media.


-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

 

 

 

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~   ~

RE: OT: Video Conferencing software via webcam

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Livemeeting (OCS) can switch the video based on whoever is talking at the time. 
 You can set up your own server, or you can pay Microsoft to host your 
Livemeetings on their servers.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:bryan.gar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Video Conferencing software via webcam

I'm thinking more along the lines of 8 people talking together. I
could be wishful thinking here but I'm thinking each laptop would see
7 main video windows (or whatever the number is) - one for each user
than a smaller one for yourself or something like that. Anyone of the
8 can speak at any point to anyone on the video chat.

Webex allows 1 presenter to share something and all 8 could talk if
using voip, but I haven't seen where you can do video sharing like
this unless the video starts at the presenter level and is broadcast
to the attendees.

I haven't tried MS OCS - I'll look into that option as well.

Thank you for the suggestions.


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Rob Bonfiglio  wrote:
> Take a look at Microsoft's OCS.  That should do what you're looking for.
> Or, you can try using something like WebEx.
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Bryan Garmon 
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure if this is off-topic or not, but I'm wondering if anyone
>> has any recommendations for the following problem:
>>
>> 8-12 remote users connect to VPN via laptops. They would like to do
>> videoconferencing either with each other (as a group) or with someone
>> in an office conference room. I've seen plenty of 1:1 webcam solutions
>> but never many:many or many:1 solutions. Does this exist?
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>
>
>
>

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~   ~


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~   ~

RE: Pulling data with logon script?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Why do you need vb script?  Can't you just do this:

 

if exist "C:\Program Files\whatever\something.exe" (

 

some commands here

 

)

 

 

 

From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Pulling data with logon script?

 

We're using a fairly simple VB logon script -- I'm wondering if I can
call a routine in that script to find out how many users have a file
with a certain extension in a specific location on their machines -- I'd
be looking to write or add to a network text file when a user logs on,
to get the name of the file, the date, and size.  If anyone has used or
seen a similar routine I'd appreciate hearing about it.  Haven't done a
great deal of my own scripting.  Thanks.



David

_

The problem with socialism is that you
eventually run out of other people's money.

~ Margaret Thatcher

 

 

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~   ~

RE: Windows does not recongize keyboard

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

All your keystrokes are belong to us.

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows does not recongize keyboard

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RE: A quarter million files...

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Get "Treesize" from "Jam Software".  The eval will let you try it out
for a while without having to buy it ($50).  It will let you set date
ranges and then will show you how many MB fall into each range.

 

 

http://www.jam-software.com/treesize/

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: A quarter million files...

 

I have a task where I need to find out how much space files from a
certain date range are using - example, how much disk space are all
files last modified sometime in 2006 are using.

 

On the server in question, using Explorer's search features it returns
271,000 objects (which is probably accurate, the search takes several
hours to complete), but when I right click and choose "Properties" which
should normally bring up disk space uses, it returns nothing.

 

I'm guessing I'm running into an Explorer limit? Is there a command-line
tool that will give me files and total size of a given date range? If I
could do a DIR /S /O:D  > D:\FileList.txt that would
be awesome.

 

Anyone, anyone, Bueller, Bueller?

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

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~   ~

RE: Staying on top of alerts - your top 3

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Patch Management list:

 

PatchManagement.org is hosted by Shavlik Technologies

 

To subscribe go to  http://patchmanagement.org/

 

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Staying on top of alerts - your top 3

 

I'm trying to stay ahead of security issues in relation to outbreaks,
0-day, and patches. I monitor SANS.ORG, CNET Security, DOE-CIRC and
Securityfocus websites, plus am subscribed to MS's and Adobe's security
bulletins. While I can't possibly watch everything, what is on your guys
top 3 lists of ways to be notified of outbreaks, vulnerabilities, and
patches to various applications?

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Offline patching Vista / Microsoft Update Catalog searching

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

It does Windows 2000, XP, Server 2003, Server 2008 and Visa as well as
Office 2002, 2003 and 2007.  


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Offline patching Vista / Microsoft Update Catalog searching

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Michael B. Smith
 wrote:
> Sorry. The *mbsa output file is actually an XML document. Any element
named
> "* Security Update *" needs to be installed. The download URL is a
> subelement.

  *Ah*.  Very promising.  I'll check that out.  Thanks muchly!

  I'm also analyzing the ctupdate thing a few people have recommended.
 Unfortunately for me, most of the documentation appears to be in
German (the only languages I know are English and computer programming
:) ).  It looks like it does *not* do Vista.  And due to what I will
call "customer requirements", we can't use non-US software on these
systems anyway.  But it looks like I might be able to extract useful
parts from the guts of ctupdate to get a list of download URLs for
update files.  The source of the scripts is in English.  :)

  On the third hand, Shavlik NetChk Protect looks like it is only a
few hundred bucks for a handful of computers.  I gotta talk to them to
see if it can be made to do what I want.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Offline patching Vista / Microsoft Update Catalog searching

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

++1 to Ctupdate.  One script downloads EVERYTHING that you choose.
Another script installs EVERYTHING you need.  It will even create an ISO
of a CD or DVD containing the install script and all of the updates that
all install in one operation.  Here is some info from the web page:



CTUpdate (WSUS Offline)
 
This is a nifty little utility that enables you to perform an offline
update of all Microsoft XP (or vista) patches within the space of 25
minutes.  You may have a high speed connection but hackers out there are
relentlessly targeting boxes that have not been patched and the time you
spend downloading could be the time you spend getting owned especially
with a vanilla 2K, XP or Vista installed with no service packs/ hotfixes
applied.  For those who have a number of standalones systems with little
or no network connectivity or everyday users still on dial-up, this
facility can also enable you to regularly update your machines simply,
safely and easily.   Its almost akin to your own personalised service
pack. 

In Oct 07 for example a newly-built Windows XP host with SP2 installed
still required you to download anything up to ~100 patches (200 Mb+) to
get it fully patched to that date and things were only getting worse as
new patches are relentlessly released every Patch Tuesday by Microsoft.


CTUpdate will provide the ability to update Windows 2000, XP, 2K3, Vista
and 2K8 hosts in one swoop, not to mention updating Microsoft Office
Products too!

Heisse  offers an alternative to the update predicament, CTUpdate is a
collection of script that requires only a few steps to reel in a current
service pack at any time, combining all released Windows updates at the
time of download. The download script acquires the complete update
library for selected operating systems from Microsoft's servers and uses
them to created ISO images for CDs or DVDs as desired. 

Version 5 New Updates:

Support added for Microsoft Windows Server 2008
Optional download and installation of .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 and DirectX
End-User Runtimes
Download of Operating Systems' updates may preferentially be redirected
to a local WSUS server
Number of updates to download and to install will be displayed and
logged
Integrity of updates may be verified on subsequent download runs
DVD ISO images will be split into x86- and x64-products since ISO file
sizes exceeded 4.7 GB
Windows Installer 4.5 integrated for Windows XP, Vista and Server
2003/2008 systems


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Looking for a utility that I can run on my laptop and know on servers their BIOS/firware they are running

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Put the text below into a file called something like bios_info.vbs and
then run it with:

 

Cscript bios_info.vbs

 

 

 

 

 

strComputer = "."

Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:" _

& "{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" & strComputer &
"\root\cimv2")

 

Set colBIOS = objWMIService.ExecQuery _

("Select * from Win32_BIOS")

 

For each objBIOS in colBIOS

Wscript.Echo "Manufacturer: " & objBIOS.Manufacturer

Wscript.Echo "Name: " & objBIOS.Name

Wscript.Echo "Primary BIOS: " & objBIOS.PrimaryBIOS

Wscript.Echo "Release Date: " & objBIOS.ReleaseDate

Wscript.Echo "Serial Number: " & objBIOS.SerialNumber

Wscript.Echo "SMBIOS Version: " & objBIOS.SMBIOSBIOSVersion

Wscript.Echo "SMBIOS Major Version: " & objBIOS.SMBIOSMajorVersion

Wscript.Echo "SMBIOS Minor Version: " & objBIOS.SMBIOSMinorVersion

Wscript.Echo "SMBIOS Present: " & objBIOS.SMBIOSPresent

Wscript.Echo "Status: " & objBIOS.Status

Wscript.Echo "Version: " & objBIOS.Version

Next



From: RITA KAUR [mailto:mchani...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Looking for a utility that I can run on my laptop and know on
servers their BIOS/firware they are running

 

FY1,

 

I am looking for a utility that I can run on my laptop and get to know
what BIOS/firmware are running on Intel Platform ASAP. Help is highly
appreciated

 

Thanks for all your help

 

M 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Shadow copy question

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I have only had it dump the old snaps (due to excess load) when they
were on the same physical drive.  On one server I added another drive
just to hold the snaps and have not had a problem since (with Windows
2003 server).  What version of Windows server are you running (2003 or
2008?)

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shadow copy question

 

Yup,
Shadow Copies are the greatest thing, too bad the implementation is a
steaming pile of merde. I have no end of issues with VSS, even though
the store is directed off to a new controller and set of spindles, it
seems when IO climbs to any moderate level, VSS tanks and kills all the
old snaps, even when it's not performing a snap!

 

Why it needs to tank all the _old_ snaps I have no idea. I hate it...

 

On my file servers with it enabled, it seems that large IO is met with
pauses and disconnects regardless if a snap is being performed or not.

 

jlc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Backup Exec 12.5 Mirror Backup

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

BE 12.5 now normally includes "CPS" (Continuous Protection Service).
It's a whole other install and is probably not really what you are
asking for.  Changes to the source server are immediately replicated to
the backup server.  Robocopy /copyall is a simpler option. 

 

 

From: Todd Arnett [mailto:tarn...@lastar.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup Exec 12.5 Mirror Backup

 

Does anyone know of a mirror backup option within Backup Exec 12.5? I
swear I've seen this. We're just wanting to recreate file structure to
another system for easy recovery. I know we could use something like
Robocopy to do this, but I'd like to be able to manage the jobs from
within a single interface.

 

Thanks,

 

Todd Arnett

IT System Administrator

Lastar Inc.

937.224.0639 x338

www.lastar.com  

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

There is a place in the GUI to turn on write caching, but I suspect that it is 
ignored if the battery is not present.

Also, one more update:  Just adding the battery to the 256M card, I got pretty 
good speeds, but they were erratic (like something else was using the drive).  

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

Im coming in late on this thread, but it sounds like no caching
without the battery.

--
ME2



On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> Breaking News:  I got the memory/battery upgrade for the P400 and
> installed both (512MB memory card replaces 256MB card) and has the
> battery added.  The RAID5 speed is through the roof.  I was getting 2
> MB/sec with small block sizes.  One a standard desktop drive I get
> around 4000 MB/sec with small blocks.  With the memory upgrade and
> battery added, I got 28000 MB/sec with small block sizes.  With large
> block sizes I got several times the raw speed of a single drive, like
> you should.  For large block sizes the RAID5 array had 370,000 MB/sec
> write speed and 586,000 MB/sec read speed.
>
> I then kept the 512MB card installed but removed the battery.  The write
> speeds are back in the toilet.  I am going to try just the battery next
> for my amusement, but I have decided that the "stock" P400 card with
> 256M and no battery is only good for mirroring, not for RAID5.
>
> Tom
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:51 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions
>
> Tom.
> I am very interested in the outcome of this as I have 5 servers on order
> and 4 of them will have this same controller.
> I forwarded the first email from this thread to our rep to see if he had
> heard anything and asked if we should be concerned.
> He said he would do some checking and let me know what he learns.
> I'll let everyone know if he shares anything of value.
> I sure hope it is something that can easily be fixed as it may be too
> late for us to change the order.
> Thanks.
> Glen.
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Breaking News:  I got the memory/battery upgrade for the P400 and
installed both (512MB memory card replaces 256MB card) and has the
battery added.  The RAID5 speed is through the roof.  I was getting 2
MB/sec with small block sizes.  One a standard desktop drive I get
around 4000 MB/sec with small blocks.  With the memory upgrade and
battery added, I got 28000 MB/sec with small block sizes.  With large
block sizes I got several times the raw speed of a single drive, like
you should.  For large block sizes the RAID5 array had 370,000 MB/sec
write speed and 586,000 MB/sec read speed.

I then kept the 512MB card installed but removed the battery.  The write
speeds are back in the toilet.  I am going to try just the battery next
for my amusement, but I have decided that the "stock" P400 card with
256M and no battery is only good for mirroring, not for RAID5.  

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

Tom.
I am very interested in the outcome of this as I have 5 servers on order
and 4 of them will have this same controller.
I forwarded the first email from this thread to our rep to see if he had
heard anything and asked if we should be concerned.
He said he would do some checking and let me know what he learns.
I'll let everyone know if he shares anything of value.
I sure hope it is something that can easily be fixed as it may be too
late for us to change the order.
Thanks.
Glen.



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

The E200/128 controller will not do RAID5 unless you add the 128MB BBWC
upgrade.

-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

Two of the servers will have 2 x 72gig 15krpm sas 2.5inch raid 1 for os
and 3 x 146gig 10krpm 2.5inch sas raid 5 for data.
These are for MS-Hyper-v use.
Exchange server will have 2 x 72gig 15krpm sas 2.5inch raid 1 for os, 2
x 146gig 10krpm 2.5 inch sas raid 1 for logs and 3 x 300gig 10krpm
2.5inch sas for exchange dbs.
Last server is for a users home directories.  It will have 2 x 72gig
15krpm raid 1 for OS, 6 x 300gig 10krpm 2.5inch sas raid 5 for data.
The one other server may be even worse.  It is for a domain controller,
dhcp and dns.  It has the E200/128 controller.  Any bad news on that
controller?



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Are the 1TB SATA's 2.5 or 3.5inch?  I'm amazed that you can get 500GB in
a 2.5in drive, so I would guess 3.5.  Do you have a PN on the 450GB
2.5in SAS?  

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

 

I think they actually have 450GB 2.5" SAS drives alreadyplus the 1TB
SATAs...

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I have never used the E200/128 controller.  Based on my experience here,
I would probably want to get any battery or memory options available.
When you first set it up, run the ATTO bench32.exe program to make sure
it's working OK.  Bench32 writes then reads back a file (you can change
the file size, default is 256MB) using many different block sizes.  Very
small blocks of data are less efficient, so the speed is lower.  With a
normal drive or RAID array, even with the smallest block sizes you will
still get around 4000 KB/sec read and write speeds.  On the RAID5 array,
I am getting 2 KB/Sec for that block size.  For large block sizes you
will get the native speed of a single drive, or higher speeds for an
array of disks.  Most drives these days get between 5 and 10
KB/sec with large block sizes.  My encrypted laptop drive gets
50,000KB/sec write and 42,000KB/sec read for 8192 KB block size.

I did not know that HP is now selling the long rumored 300GIG 2.5 inch
SAS drives.  Do you have a part number?

-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

Two of the servers will have 2 x 72gig 15krpm sas 2.5inch raid 1 for os
and 3 x 146gig 10krpm 2.5inch sas raid 5 for data.
These are for MS-Hyper-v use.
Exchange server will have 2 x 72gig 15krpm sas 2.5inch raid 1 for os, 2
x 146gig 10krpm 2.5 inch sas raid 1 for logs and 3 x 300gig 10krpm
2.5inch sas for exchange dbs.
Last server is for a users home directories.  It will have 2 x 72gig
15krpm raid 1 for OS, 6 x 300gig 10krpm 2.5inch sas raid 5 for data.
The one other server may be even worse.  It is for a domain controller,
dhcp and dns.  It has the E200/128 controller.  Any bad news on that
controller?



-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) [mailto:tom.alver...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions
I would definitely get the battery/memory add-on option if I were you.
Are you going to use SAS or SATA drives?  What size?

-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

Tom.
I am very interested in the outcome of this as I have 5 servers on order
and 4 of them will have this same controller.
I forwarded the first email from this thread to our rep to see if he had
heard anything and asked if we should be concerned.
He said he would do some checking and let me know what he learns.
I'll let everyone know if he shares anything of value.
I sure hope it is something that can easily be fixed as it may be too
late for us to change the order.
Thanks.
Glen.



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I would definitely get the battery/memory add-on option if I were you.
Are you going to use SAS or SATA drives?  What size?

-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

Tom.
I am very interested in the outcome of this as I have 5 servers on order
and 4 of them will have this same controller.
I forwarded the first email from this thread to our rep to see if he had
heard anything and asked if we should be concerned.
He said he would do some checking and let me know what he learns.
I'll let everyone know if he shares anything of value.
I sure hope it is something that can easily be fixed as it may be too
late for us to change the order.
Thanks.
Glen.



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I did not see any way to choose the strip and cluster sizes while
creating the array, so they are at the default.  I may be able to see
what the defaults were by running the raid array utility in windows.

 

From: Brian Hintz [mailto:bhi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

 

What stripe and cluster sizes are being used?

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:

Well I am hoping that someone else on this list may have solved this
problem already.  No such luck yet.  My guess is that adding
memory/battery or changing to a P800 card will help, and I am testing
that guess buy purchasing both (on order, not here yet).

If someone tells me that card XXX will fix all my problems I would
probably order one of those.  I have had good luck with 3ware SATA raid
cards, but I'm not sure I could use them with the HP DL380 internal
drive slots because of the cabling used.

Tom


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> If the chip did not have the guts to perform the RAID calculations
fast enough,
> I doubt that both Intel and HP would have chosen this chip for their
RAID controllers.

 So, in other words, you have absolutely no basis for thinking that
it can perform as desired, other than a vague hope that Intel and HP
are real nice guys who never do anything wrong.

 I've got a Dell PowerEdge 2500 with a "PERC 3" RAID controller,
which is based on an Adaptec chipset.  Normally, I really like
Adaptec's stuff, and Dell's PERC cards, but this one sucks monkey
balls.  Performance absolutely blows.  Turns out this card just sucks.
 Dell/Adaptec turned in a stinker.  I've even had Dell's tech guys say
this.  The only solution is to use a different card.

 Every company on Earth turns out crap sometimes.  You may have
encountered one of those times.  You either have assurance that it
works as you desire, or you don't.  So far, you have no such
assurances.  Get some specs and stop guessing.

 Or, go right on guessing and hoping, if that's what you want.  I
assumed you were posting because you needed help.  I've identified
what you need to do.  It's not my job to make sure you like it.  Not
at the rates you're paying me.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I don't know if it will do RAID10.   It won't even do RAID6 until you
add the extra memory/battery option.  My only options (as the card sits
now) are RAID0 RAID1 or RAID5.

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

 

Also what are the sizes of the files you are reading/write from the
drive. 

 

HP Has tools to measure the performance of the reading and writing from
disk. Although I have heard the P400 controller rant before about the
slowness. Is it any better if you use RAID 10? I am also looking to do a
specification on P800 controllers with BB Cache and MIN 256-512 Memory
on the Controller card as a minimum specification. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email: ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone: 401-639-3505

MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +



From: Brian Hintz [mailto:bhi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Just do a google search for "P400 raid slow" and you will see a bunch of
posting (mostly on HP forums).  They usually say "update your firmware
and drivers" but I always do that before starting any install.

-Original Message-
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

Tom.
I am very interested in the outcome of this as I have 5 servers on order
and 4 of them will have this same controller.
I forwarded the first email from this thread to our rep to see if he had
heard anything and asked if we should be concerned.
He said he would do some checking and let me know what he learns.
I'll let everyone know if he shares anything of value.
I sure hope it is something that can easily be fixed as it may be too
late for us to change the order.
Thanks.
Glen.



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Well I am hoping that someone else on this list may have solved this
problem already.  No such luck yet.  My guess is that adding
memory/battery or changing to a P800 card will help, and I am testing
that guess buy purchasing both (on order, not here yet).

If someone tells me that card XXX will fix all my problems I would
probably order one of those.  I have had good luck with 3ware SATA raid
cards, but I'm not sure I could use them with the HP DL380 internal
drive slots because of the cabling used.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 5:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> If the chip did not have the guts to perform the RAID calculations
fast enough,
> I doubt that both Intel and HP would have chosen this chip for their
RAID controllers.

  So, in other words, you have absolutely no basis for thinking that
it can perform as desired, other than a vague hope that Intel and HP
are real nice guys who never do anything wrong.

  I've got a Dell PowerEdge 2500 with a "PERC 3" RAID controller,
which is based on an Adaptec chipset.  Normally, I really like
Adaptec's stuff, and Dell's PERC cards, but this one sucks monkey
balls.  Performance absolutely blows.  Turns out this card just sucks.
 Dell/Adaptec turned in a stinker.  I've even had Dell's tech guys say
this.  The only solution is to use a different card.

  Every company on Earth turns out crap sometimes.  You may have
encountered one of those times.  You either have assurance that it
works as you desire, or you don't.  So far, you have no such
assurances.  Get some specs and stop guessing.

  Or, go right on guessing and hoping, if that's what you want.  I
assumed you were posting because you needed help.  I've identified
what you need to do.  It's not my job to make sure you like it.  Not
at the rates you're paying me.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Another screen sharing gizmo (free) from Microsoft "SharedView"

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

More info from the WIKI:

Overview
Microsoft SharedView allows connecting with up to 15 people in different 
locations. Users can be invited to join a session by email or IM. They are able 
to communicate with each other by being able to view each other's screens and 
control them. Also, handouts, or files, can be broadcasted by one to all users. 
[3] Creation of a session is done with Windows Live ID. SharedView also 
provides integration into Microsoft Office applications and Windows Live 
Messenger. For example, in Microsoft Office Word, if tracked changes are turned 
on and another user is granted control and he or she changes the documents, 
those changes are tracked as being done by that user. [4] SharedView is 
partially ad-supported by advertisements from Live Search.

SharedView is similar to Windows Meeting Space, which is included in Windows 
Vista. However, Windows Meeting Space supports ad hoc meetings, application 
sharing, file transfer, and simple messaging within a network and works 
primarily inside the firewall, requiring IT involvement (on both sides) to 
bridge firewalls. Microsoft SharedView, on the contrary is designed for 
collaboration over the internet. It works through firewalls using HTTP if 
necessary. SharedView also runs on Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows Server 
2003 SP1 or later besides Windows Vista.


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Another screen sharing gizmo (free) from Microsoft "SharedView"

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> Similar but different.  Netmeeting is point to point.  SharedView
> appears to communicate through Microsoft servers 

  Ahhh, I see.  Thanks for the clarification.

-- Ben

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RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Of course I get it.  If the chip did not have the guts to perform the RAID 
calculations fast enough, I doubt that both Intel and HP would have chosen this 
chip for their RAID controllers.  I think the problem is somewhere else (i.e. 
the raid chip is fast enough).  I suspect the problem is caused by not enough 
cache ram, the lack of the battery (possibly disabling write cache even though 
I tried to enable it in the settings), or some obscure issue with the 
particular SATA drives I am using.  These are not HP drives, as they do not 
sell anything this large (500GB drive).  Maybe this is why...

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
>  wrote:
>> The LSISAS1078 is a custom chip designed for high performance RAID 
>> controllers.
>> It is used on the HP P400 and P800 (their best raid card) as well as an Intel
>> RAID card and LSI logics own "Mega-Raid" brand of RAID card.
>
>  My cat's breath smells like cat food.

  In case I'm being too subtle: I've written four messages in this
thread about how the important thing is XOR performance of the RAID
card.  The above is yet another message in a series of messages which
*DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT QUESTION AT ALL*.  We really don't care what it
is, or who uses it, or what color it is, or any other damn thing
except how fast it can perform the XOR calculations needed for RAID 5.

  Get it?  :-)

-- Ben

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RE: Another screen sharing gizmo (free) from Microsoft "SharedView"

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

Similar but different.  Netmeeting is point to point.  SharedView
appears to communicate through Microsoft servers on ports 80 and 443 so
firewalls should not be a problem.  In netmeeting you have an optional
ILS server which is basically just a list of names and IP addresses.
Sharedview requires you to login to a "passport" type of login and then
you can easily send an email to the other end which has a URL with the
session name and password embedded (they just need to click the link and
you need to accept).

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Another screen sharing gizmo (free) from Microsoft
"SharedView"

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SharedView

  Sounds like NetMeeting all over again.

-- Ben

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RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

The LSISAS1078 is a custom chip designed for high performance RAID controllers. 
 It is used on the HP P400 and P800 (their best raid card) as well as an Intel 
RAID card and LSI logics own "Mega-Raid" brand of RAID card.  

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> It has a monster 600+ PIN BGA (ball grid array) LSI chip on it
> (LSISAS1078).  I'm sure there are a few XOR's in there somewhere.

  You're looking for dedicated silicon that can do all the XOR
calculations on a block of data very fast.  If it's just a
general-purpose microprocessor spinning in a loop to do the XOR
calculations it will be slower.

  How many fscking times do I have to say this?

-- Ben

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RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

It has a monster 600+ PIN BGA (ball grid array) LSI chip on it
(LSISAS1078).  I'm sure there are a few XOR's in there somewhere.

http://www.lsilogic.com/news/product_news/2005_03_23.html

LSI Logic First to Validate Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) RAID-On-Chip/RAID
Stack Solution

LSISAS1078 SAS RAID-on-Chip (ROC) being tested with two industry-leading
RAID stacks and RAID 6
Lab testing demonstrates highly integrated, single-chip SAS ROC solution
that reduces board real estate requirements and provides a value segment
solution
MegaRAID(r) software stack provides advanced data protection ideal for
enterprise servers and external storage
Fusion-MPT(tm) (Message Passing Technology) architecture speeds
development of third-generation ROC product to the industry's broadest
Serial Attached SCSI product line

Maybe they put a software limit in the drivers when you are running SATA
drives instead of SAS to slow you down on purpose.

Tom


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> The P800 ... is "the highest performing controller
> in the SAS portfolio"

  Does it have dedicated silicon for XOR?  That's what matters.  This
might be called an "XOR engine" or "XOR co-processor" or "RAID-5
accelerator" or something along those lines.  In this past, it was
always a separate ASIC, although these days, I wouldn't be surprised
to find that microprocessors with a built-in XOR vector engine are
available.

> ... "supports over 100 hard drives" ...

  How many drives it can support has little-to-nothing to do with RAID
performance.  That's more about the actual SAS/SATA interface
controller chip.  The RAID part is almost always implemented as one or
more chips separate from the actual disk interface.

  (As a good design practice, a controller that can support more
drives should have more computational ability to go with it, but if
they're quoting 100+ drives they're obviously talking theory, not
real-world performance, so I wouldn't bet on that.)

-- Ben

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Another screen sharing gizmo (free) from Microsoft "SharedView"

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I enjoyed reading the earlier thread with all the different screen
sharing tools that you guys (and gals) have been using that I have never
heard of.  Today I discovered that Microsoft has a free one too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SharedView

You can download it from here (posted only a few days ago)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=95AF94BA-755E-4
039-9038-63005EE9D33A&displaylang=en

It did not work for me at first, as my "shared" screen was just blank
grey color on the other end.  I found a user who posted a fix which was
to turn off all video acceleration on their graphics card.  That worked
for me, and then I bumped it up one click at a time until it broke.  The
click just below halfway up was the highest I could go.  Maybe I should
try updating my video drivers and see if I can crank it backup.

Tom



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RE: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I already figured out the stinking part.  The P800 (which might be the
same hardware with more memory and included battery" is "the highest
performing controller in the SAS portfolio" and "supports over 100 hard
drives" (i.e. this one controller can control 108 drives at once).

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
 wrote:
> ... mirror ... performance was fine ...
> The RAID5 part was still horribly slow.

  Short version: Your RAID controller stinks.  Buy a better one.

  Explanation: Mirroring requires no computation; the controller just
writes the same block to two different disks.  RAID5 requires
computation; an XOR operation has to be done for every byte of data in
every block written to the logical RAID volume.  If the RAID
controller lacks fast, dedicated silicon to do the XOR calculations
(i.e., it just uses a general-purpose microprocessor for XOR), RAID5
write performance will tend to be abysmal while mirroring is good.

>  some recommended adding the battery/more RAM option

  The battery will likely mean that the controller will turn on
write-back caching, i.e., it will buffer pending writes in the
controller's cache RAM, while signaling to the OS that the write
operation completed.  This is considered "safe" if you have a battery,
since even in a server power failure or crash, the controller will
keep the pending write around until the server is functional again.

  Doing this sort of caching can help write performance in some
situations.  In particular, a small burst of writes to random
locations will perform much better.  However, large/sustained writes
will overwhelm the cache and kill performance again.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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HP RAID5 P400 SATA questions

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

I set up an 8 disk SATA RAID5 array in an HP DL380G5 with the included
P400 SAS/SATA controller.  The drives are 500G and I initially tried to
create one big RAID5 array.  I started out using the tools in the CMOS
setup but you could only create one "logical" drive on your physical
array that way.  When I tried that, I had a 3.5TB "drive" that I created
a 50G partition on to install Windows Server 2003 on.  That worked ok,
but I could only access the first 2TB of the array.  I could not convert
it to a GPT disk (greyed out) because I was booting from it.  So there
was no way to use the hundreds of GB above 2TB.  The other problem was
that it was incredibly slow for all writes, and any reads with smaller
block sizes.  It took forever to install Windows and the ATTO
bench32.exe test showed horrible write performance (2 MB/sec for small
and even medium block sizes).

I then used the Array tools built into the smartstart CD which allowed
more flexibility in drive creation.  I wiped the array and made a new 8
drive RAID5, but was able to make a small (50GB) logical drive for
booting, and then split the rest of the drive between two large logical
drives that were both under the 2TB "limit" (without having to convert
to GPT).  This was still horribly slow.

I then made a 2 drive mirror out of the first two drives, and installed
Windows on that.  The performance was fine in ATTO as well as windows
speed.  I made a 6 drive RAID5 out of the rest of the drives, and split
that into two logical drives (to keep under 2TB so I would not have to
use GPT).  The RAID5 part was still horribly slow.  I looked at the
drive status in the HP drive configuration tools, and it said the raid5
was still initializing (or something like that) so I let it go over the
weekend and that message went away (status now "OK").  I repeated the
ATTO benchmark and it is just as slow, but there is less variation in
the numbers.

Searching google and the HP forums, it seems many people are having
these issues with the P400 card and some recommended adding the
battery/more RAM option which I ordered.  One person commented that he
replaced the P400 with a P800 and that cured his speed problem.  I have
also ordered a P800.  I have a funny feeling that the P800 is just a
P400 that comes standard with the battery and extra RAM (512 vs 256)
plus it has some external drive connectors on the back.

Does anyone have any experience with this controller or tips for getting
usable speed.  I tested the speed over the network by sharing the RAID5
drive out and got horrible write speeds there too (I thought maybe
Windows would do some caching of its own and maybe hide the slowness).

Tom

 

 

 

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RE: Another NT problem

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

There used to be a utility for NT4 for that sort of thing called
FTEDIT.EXE (see kb below for NT4 version)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/149927

I don't know if this has been updated for Windows 2003 server or not.  I
found a link on google for a win2000 version. 
It's probably in the Windows 2003 server resource kit.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Eric Brouwer [mailto:er...@forestpost.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Another NT problem

Good afternoon,

I lost a volume on one of my NT servers the other day, and I can not  
find a way to get it back.  It is a non-fault tolerant striped set  
created through Windows NT.  It is not a hardware RAID.  The other  
array I can still access shows it's formatted as NTFS.  The array  
giving me troubles shows as "unknown format".  All disks are present  
and accounted for in Disk Administrator, and none of the drives have  
any problems listed.  It looks like NT just lost the settings for this  
array.  Of course, the data is not backed up.

Can I get this array back?  Any utilities I can run against the disks  
to find the configuration information?  I'm currently downloading the  
NT Resource Kit to see if I can find anything on there that might help.

Thanks,

Eric Brouwer
IT Manager
www.forestpost.com
er...@forestpost.com
248.855.4333





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RE: Measuring Scsi speed

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

If it is an HP tape drive, their free tape tools utility (used mainly
for updating the firmware) has built in test for tape speed as well as
hard drive speed.

 

From: David Lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Measuring Scsi speed

 

Hi all,

 

Does anyone know of a script / program I can run on a windows 2003
server to check

i/o speed to an external scsi tape drive?

 

Thanks

 

David

 

 

 

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