subject:"Re\: \[PHP\] mysql_connect does not connect"

That is the type of comment that causes problems. Reasonable and 
knowledgable people know it is not true and saying it just causes problems. 
Of course, many people would advise to just ignore comments such as that and 
I will in the future. I just want to make it clear for the benefit of others 
that this is the type of comments that has caused problems.


"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> Windows XP Firewall, or any other firewall for that matter must be off.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-18 Thread Jason Wong

On Saturday 18 September 2004 21:04, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> "Steve Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Sam, if you wouldn't mind answering a question: are you still unable
> > to connect to your mysql server?
>
> I am able to connect now.

Would you mind spilling the beans? I'm sure everyone is dying to know what the 
resolution of this thread is.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

"Matthew Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> You should check as XP SP2 firewall is turned on by default.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842242

Saying "You should check" assumes I did not check.

I did check. I said as far as I know it is off. I am sorry that that does 
not state explicitly that I checked, but if I had not checked it then I 
would have stated explicitly that I did not.

What I meant is that I don't see anything saying that the firewall is on. 
When I go to whereever it is that the firewall is configured, it is off. The 
only reason I am confused is because there are events in the security log 
complaining about use of some ports and I don't understand that. The 
messages seem to be produced in spite of the Windows firewall being off. I 
did explicitly turn off the Windows firewall soon after installing ZoneAlarm 
over two years ago and again after SP2 was installed. Note that XP has 
always had a firewall, it just has been improved and made reasonably useful 
in SP2. 

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-18 Thread raditha dissanayake

Sam Hobbs wrote:
I have posted over 12,000 messages in the CodeGuru.com Visual C++ forum, 

Do you have a life ?
 


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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

"Steve Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> Sam, if you wouldn't mind answering a question: are you still unable
> to connect to your mysql server?

I am able to connect now.

> I'm sorry that you feel its a time-consuming process.  I'm sorry that
> you are confused about the involvement of the firewall.  I'm sorry
> that you feel you know better than everyone on this list.  Just try
> this and prove us wrong.

The problem is that people's insistance. It was people's reaction when I 
said I thought it was not relevant. There was a lot of stuff said that was 
unnecessary. People could have simply said to try it, without the criticism. 
To the extent that I was wrong, the apporopriate thing to do is to state 
whatever facts are relevant and then give me a chance to use that 
information.

I have posted over 12,000 messages in the CodeGuru.com Visual C++ forum, and 
about 99% of the messages were efforts to help people. I know that there are 
people that will not listen. When a person will not listen, it is a big 
mistake to insult them. The attitude in this group would cause a serious 
flame war if someone were truly not listening. 

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

"Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your problem.

This is more unnecessary and unproductive comments. Since you did not have 
something relevant and productive to say the best thing to do is say 
nothing. I hope the moderators agree.

> Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
>
> The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in solving 
> his
> problem:
>
> [JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to mysql. Try
> disabling it.
> [SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has nothing to 
> do
> with it. Get real (and go away).
>
> The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in solving 
> his
> problem:
>
> [JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try disabling 
> it
> anyway.
> [SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
>
>
>
> How silly is that?

You "paraphrased" version is not accurate.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

"Curt Zirzow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> Um.. you do realize you have more problems than php not being able
> to connect to the database.

This is the type of unproductive comment that causes problems. The only 
reason you are saying this is because you are desperate to make me wrong. 
You have exhausted reasonable comments and must resort to unreasonable ones. 
That sure is a problem here. 

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

"Curt Zirzow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>* Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
>> And the relevant portion of that says "external access", which is not
>> applicable here. I do not see anything else on that page that is 
>> relevant.
>
> what is relevant? only the last one?  :sigh:

I don't know. Ask them, not me. 

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread raditha dissanayake

Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
Thanks for the input, Jay! I prefer top posting since you get the answer
first, then the question (iff you're interested enough to scroll down --
sigh 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

haha

John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> How do I sync an Oracle and MSSQL database on an AIX system remotely 
> from Windows '95?
> 
> p.s.  I found this email address on the php website, which means I've 
> been to the php website, therefore this is a php question.  Don't you 
> dare flame me.
> 
> Jay Blanchard wrote:
> > Did you just top post? Top posting === evil;
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 3:14 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect
> > 
> > 
> > HAHAHA, this thread is awsome though, you all  must admit the humor
> > involved here.  I hope this thread continues for a couple more days. 
> > or here is an idea for a thread
> > {PHP} globals.asp wont set my php vars
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > 
> >>Amazing how long that thread is -- must be a record. Seems to be
> > 
> > classic case 
> > 
> >>of 'ignore-the-obvious' or 'my-mind-is-made-up.
> > 
> > Don't-confuse-me-with-facts'. 
> > 
> >>Perhaps I should start a new thread:
> >>
> >>"[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!"
> >>
> >>hehe
> >>Andre
> >>
> >>
> >>On Friday 17 September 2004 03:11 pm, Jason Davidson wrote:
> >>
> >>>hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
> >>>thread..
> >>>
> >>>funny stuff.
> >>>
> >>>Jason
> >>>
> >>>Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep
> >>>>>insisting. I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and
> > 
> > if and
> > 
> >>>>>when other possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried
> > 
> > the
> > 
> >>>>>possibility of disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting
> > 
> > upon it
> > 
> >>>>>from others is not productive; it is more likley to polarize me
> > 
> > in the
> > 
> >>>>>opposite direction and get us to where we are now. It is the
> > 
> > emotional
> > 
> >>>>>commentary that is most unproductive. I try to explain
> > 
> > (unemotionally
> > 
> >>>>>and in a reasonable manner) that I don't need the additional
> > 
> > assertion
> > 
> >>>>>that I must try something and the response to that becomes
> > 
> > emotional.
> > 
> >>>>Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your
> > 
> > problem.
> > 
> >>>>Time for another:
> >>>>
> >>>>[quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be
> >>>>>relevant. I have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be.
> > 
> > If it
> > 
> >>>>>is true that it is not supposed to be relevant, then simply
> > 
> > saying it
> > 
> >>>>>is just causes confusion. If you had said that the firewall is
> > 
> > not
> > 
> >>>>>supposed to be relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I
> > 
> > would say
> > 
> >>>>>that I am totally able to think like that too. It is reasonable
> > 
> > to try
> > 
> >>>>>things like that to diagnose a bug.
> >>>>
> >>>>[quote]
> >>>>
> >>>>Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
> >>>>
> >>>>The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> >>>>solving his problem:
> >>>>
> >>>>[JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to
> > 
> > mysql.
> > 
> >>>>Try disabling it.
> >>>>[SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has
> > 
> > nothing
> > 
> >>>>to do with it. Get real (and go away).
> >>>>
> >>>>The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> >>>>solving his problem:
> >>>>
> >>>>[JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try
> > 
> > disabling
> > 
> >>>>it anyway.
> >>>>[SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>How silly is that?
> >>>>
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RE: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

what is top posting


"Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Did you just top post? Top posting === evil;
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 3:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect
> 
> 
> HAHAHA, this thread is awsome though, you all  must admit the humor
> involved here.  I hope this thread continues for a couple more days. 
> or here is an idea for a thread
> {PHP} globals.asp wont set my php vars
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > 
> > Amazing how long that thread is -- must be a record. Seems to be
> classic case 
> > of 'ignore-the-obvious' or 'my-mind-is-made-up.
> Don't-confuse-me-with-facts'. 
> > Perhaps I should start a new thread:
> > 
> > "[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!"
> > 
> > hehe
> > Andre
> > 
> > 
> > On Friday 17 September 2004 03:11 pm, Jason Davidson wrote:
> > > hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
> > > thread..
> > >
> > > funny stuff.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> > > > > Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep
> > > > > insisting. I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and
> if and
> > > > > when other possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried
> the
> > > > > possibility of disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting
> upon it
> > > > > from others is not productive; it is more likley to polarize me
> in the
> > > > > opposite direction and get us to where we are now. It is the
> emotional
> > > > > commentary that is most unproductive. I try to explain
> (unemotionally
> > > > > and in a reasonable manner) that I don't need the additional
> assertion
> > > > > that I must try something and the response to that becomes
> emotional.
> > > >
> > > > Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your
> problem.
> > > > Time for another:
> > > >
> > > > [quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> > > >
> > > > > It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be
> > > > > relevant. I have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be.
> If it
> > > > > is true that it is not supposed to be relevant, then simply
> saying it
> > > > > is just causes confusion. If you had said that the firewall is
> not
> > > > > supposed to be relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I
> would say
> > > > > that I am totally able to think like that too. It is reasonable
> to try
> > > > > things like that to diagnose a bug.
> > > >
> > > > [quote]
> > > >
> > > > Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
> > > >
> > > > The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > > > solving his problem:
> > > >
> > > > [JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to
> mysql.
> > > > Try disabling it.
> > > > [SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has
> nothing
> > > > to do with it. Get real (and go away).
> > > >
> > > > The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > > > solving his problem:
> > > >
> > > > [JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try
> disabling
> > > > it anyway.
> > > > [SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How silly is that?
> > > >
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

On Saturday 18 September 2004 05:17, Greg Donald wrote:

> Well.. could you at least not top post while you're not helping..
> Trying to keep this dignified and stuff.  :)

I think everybody who is anybody who had a point to make has already done so. 
Can we bury this thread now?

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

How do I sync an Oracle and MSSQL database on an AIX system remotely 
from Windows '95?

p.s.  I found this email address on the php website, which means I've 
been to the php website, therefore this is a php question.  Don't you 
dare flame me.

Jay Blanchard wrote:
Did you just top post? Top posting === evil;
-Original Message-
From: Jason Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 3:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

HAHAHA, this thread is awsome though, you all  must admit the humor
involved here.  I hope this thread continues for a couple more days. 
or here is an idea for a thread
{PHP} globals.asp wont set my php vars

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Amazing how long that thread is -- must be a record. Seems to be
classic case 

of 'ignore-the-obvious' or 'my-mind-is-made-up.
Don't-confuse-me-with-facts'. 

Perhaps I should start a new thread:
"[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!"
hehe
Andre
On Friday 17 September 2004 03:11 pm, Jason Davidson wrote:
hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
thread..
funny stuff.
Jason
Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep
insisting. I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and
if and
when other possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried
the
possibility of disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting
upon it
from others is not productive; it is more likley to polarize me
in the
opposite direction and get us to where we are now. It is the
emotional
commentary that is most unproductive. I try to explain
(unemotionally
and in a reasonable manner) that I don't need the additional
assertion
that I must try something and the response to that becomes
emotional.
Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your
problem.
Time for another:
[quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]

It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be
relevant. I have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be.
If it
is true that it is not supposed to be relevant, then simply
saying it
is just causes confusion. If you had said that the firewall is
not
supposed to be relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I
would say
that I am totally able to think like that too. It is reasonable
to try
things like that to diagnose a bug.
[quote]
Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
solving his problem:
[JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to
mysql.
Try disabling it.
[SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has
nothing
to do with it. Get real (and go away).
The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
solving his problem:
[JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try
disabling
it anyway.
[SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.

How silly is that?
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RE: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Jay Blanchard

[snip]
Thanks for the input, Jay! I prefer top posting since you get the answer

first, then the question (iff you're interested enough to scroll down --
sigh 
-- I'm too lazy :>)
[/snip]

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Andre Dubuc

)

Andre

On Friday 17 September 2004 05:08 pm, you wrote:
> Did you just top post? Top posting === evil;
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 3:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect
>
>
> HAHAHA, this thread is awsome though, you all  must admit the humor
> involved here.  I hope this thread continues for a couple more days.
> or here is an idea for a thread
> {PHP} globals.asp wont set my php vars
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Amazing how long that thread is -- must be a record. Seems to be
>
> classic case
>
> > of 'ignore-the-obvious' or 'my-mind-is-made-up.
>
> Don't-confuse-me-with-facts'.
>
> > Perhaps I should start a new thread:
> >
> > "[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!"
> >
> > hehe
> > Andre
> >
> > On Friday 17 September 2004 03:11 pm, Jason Davidson wrote:
> > > hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
> > > thread..
> > >
> > > funny stuff.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> > > > > Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep
> > > > > insisting. I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and
>
> if and
>
> > > > > when other possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried
>
> the
>
> > > > > possibility of disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting
>
> upon it
>
> > > > > from others is not productive; it is more likley to polarize me
>
> in the
>
> > > > > opposite direction and get us to where we are now. It is the
>
> emotional
>
> > > > > commentary that is most unproductive. I try to explain
>
> (unemotionally
>
> > > > > and in a reasonable manner) that I don't need the additional
>
> assertion
>
> > > > > that I must try something and the response to that becomes
>
> emotional.
>
> > > > Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your
>
> problem.
>
> > > > Time for another:
> > > >
> > > > [quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> > > >
> > > > > It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be
> > > > > relevant. I have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be.
>
> If it
>
> > > > > is true that it is not supposed to be relevant, then simply
>
> saying it
>
> > > > > is just causes confusion. If you had said that the firewall is
>
> not
>
> > > > > supposed to be relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I
>
> would say
>
> > > > > that I am totally able to think like that too. It is reasonable
>
> to try
>
> > > > > things like that to diagnose a bug.
> > > >
> > > > [quote]
> > > >
> > > > Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
> > > >
> > > > The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > > > solving his problem:
> > > >
> > > > [JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to
>
> mysql.
>
> > > > Try disabling it.
> > > > [SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has
>
> nothing
>
> > > > to do with it. Get real (and go away).
> > > >
> > > > The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > > > solving his problem:
> > > >
> > > > [JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try
>
> disabling
>
> > > > it anyway.
> > > > [SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How silly is that?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.biz
> > > > Open Source Software Systems Integrators
> > > > * Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications
>
> Development *
>
> > > > --
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Greg Donald

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 14:41:28 -0600, Chris Gregors
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This whole thread has degraded to the point of:
> 
> YHBT. YHL. HAND.
>
> and I'm not helping it.

Well.. could you at least not top post while you're not helping..  
Trying to keep this dignified and stuff.  :)


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RE: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Jay Blanchard

Did you just top post? Top posting === evil;

-Original Message-
From: Jason Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 3:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect


HAHAHA, this thread is awsome though, you all  must admit the humor
involved here.  I hope this thread continues for a couple more days. 
or here is an idea for a thread
{PHP} globals.asp wont set my php vars

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> 
> Amazing how long that thread is -- must be a record. Seems to be
classic case 
> of 'ignore-the-obvious' or 'my-mind-is-made-up.
Don't-confuse-me-with-facts'. 
> Perhaps I should start a new thread:
> 
> "[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!"
> 
> hehe
> Andre
> 
> 
> On Friday 17 September 2004 03:11 pm, Jason Davidson wrote:
> > hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
> > thread..
> >
> > funny stuff.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> > > > Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep
> > > > insisting. I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and
if and
> > > > when other possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried
the
> > > > possibility of disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting
upon it
> > > > from others is not productive; it is more likley to polarize me
in the
> > > > opposite direction and get us to where we are now. It is the
emotional
> > > > commentary that is most unproductive. I try to explain
(unemotionally
> > > > and in a reasonable manner) that I don't need the additional
assertion
> > > > that I must try something and the response to that becomes
emotional.
> > >
> > > Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your
problem.
> > > Time for another:
> > >
> > > [quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> > >
> > > > It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be
> > > > relevant. I have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be.
If it
> > > > is true that it is not supposed to be relevant, then simply
saying it
> > > > is just causes confusion. If you had said that the firewall is
not
> > > > supposed to be relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I
would say
> > > > that I am totally able to think like that too. It is reasonable
to try
> > > > things like that to diagnose a bug.
> > >
> > > [quote]
> > >
> > > Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
> > >
> > > The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > > solving his problem:
> > >
> > > [JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to
mysql.
> > > Try disabling it.
> > > [SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has
nothing
> > > to do with it. Get real (and go away).
> > >
> > > The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > > solving his problem:
> > >
> > > [JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try
disabling
> > > it anyway.
> > > [SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How silly is that?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.biz
> > > Open Source Software Systems Integrators
> > > * Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications
Development *
> > > --
> > > Search the list archives before you post
> > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Greg Donald

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:34:18 -0700 (PDT), Matthew Sims
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Check your firewall.

I would but I don't have 30 minutes to spare.  Too busy walking my
lizard.. or something.


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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

that takes the cake. :D :D

J

"Matthew Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> >
> > "[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!"
> >
> > hehe
> > Andre
> >
> >
> 
> Check your firewall.
> 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Matthew Sims

> HAHAHA, this thread is awsome though, you all  must admit the humor
> involved here.  I hope this thread continues for a couple more days.
> or here is an idea for a thread
> {PHP} globals.asp wont set my php vars

Firewall.

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RE: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Chris Gregors



:^) too many free cycles.

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Goodie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect


-- Original message from "John Holmes" : -- 

> Whatever happened to those monthly stat posts? most posts, most posts per 
> thread, etc...?? Who was doing that? I haven't seen one in a while. 
> 
> ---John Holmes... 
> 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

hahahaha, what can i do in 30 minutes... hmm.. install almost any linux
distro, most windows distros.. i could disbaled and enable my firewall
about 180 times i could read just one of the long winded emails how
i obsfuscate the thread with irrelevant solutions and wild suggestions
of inaccuracy...sorry .. i had to ..

Jason

Curt Zirzow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> * Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
> > "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > The firewall is relevant depending on your circumstances. In any case it 
> > > would
> > > take you all of one minute to disable your firewall to test out this "wild
> > > far out suggestion". At the most you would have lost one minute but you 
> > > would
> > > have either:
> > >
> > > - gained the satisfaction of saying "I told you the firewall was 
> > > irrelevant,
> > > now go away and stop wasting my time with your ridiculous suggestions"
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > - you would have found the cause of your problem
> > 
> > It definitely takes more than a minute. It takes nearly a minute just to 
> > logoff one user and I often have another user, the Administrator account, 
> > ...
> > I must restart ZoneAlarm, restart the system and be sure to plug the modem 
> > back in while the system starts. The whole operation is likely to take 
> > nearly a half hour at least.
> 
> Um.. you do realize you have more problems than php not being able
> to connect to the database.
>  
> 
> Curt
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RE: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Chris Gregors

This whole thread has degraded to the point of:

YHBT. YHL. HAND.

and I'm not helping it.


-Original Message-
From: Curt Zirzow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 2:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect


* Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
> I appreciate your attempts to help, but you must understand that when 
> attempts to help just cause time to be wasted, then it might be
appropriate 

:sigh:

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Matthew Sims

>
> "[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!"
>
> hehe
> Andre
>
>

Check your firewall.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Curt Zirzow

* Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
> "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > The firewall is relevant depending on your circumstances. In any case it 
> > would
> > take you all of one minute to disable your firewall to test out this "wild
> > far out suggestion". At the most you would have lost one minute but you 
> > would
> > have either:
> >
> > - gained the satisfaction of saying "I told you the firewall was 
> > irrelevant,
> > now go away and stop wasting my time with your ridiculous suggestions"
> >
> > or
> >
> > - you would have found the cause of your problem
> 
> It definitely takes more than a minute. It takes nearly a minute just to 
> logoff one user and I often have another user, the Administrator account, 
> ...
> I must restart ZoneAlarm, restart the system and be sure to plug the modem 
> back in while the system starts. The whole operation is likely to take 
> nearly a half hour at least.

Um.. you do realize you have more problems than php not being able
to connect to the database.
 

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

HAHAHA, this thread is awsome though, you all  must admit the humor
involved here.  I hope this thread continues for a couple more days. 
or here is an idea for a thread
{PHP} globals.asp wont set my php vars

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> 
> Amazing how long that thread is -- must be a record. Seems to be classic case 
> of 'ignore-the-obvious' or 'my-mind-is-made-up. Don't-confuse-me-with-facts'. 
> Perhaps I should start a new thread:
> 
> "[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!"
> 
> hehe
> Andre
> 
> 
> On Friday 17 September 2004 03:11 pm, Jason Davidson wrote:
> > hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
> > thread..
> >
> > funny stuff.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> > > > Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep
> > > > insisting. I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and if and
> > > > when other possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried the
> > > > possibility of disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting upon it
> > > > from others is not productive; it is more likley to polarize me in the
> > > > opposite direction and get us to where we are now. It is the emotional
> > > > commentary that is most unproductive. I try to explain (unemotionally
> > > > and in a reasonable manner) that I don't need the additional assertion
> > > > that I must try something and the response to that becomes emotional.
> > >
> > > Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your problem.
> > > Time for another:
> > >
> > > [quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> > >
> > > > It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be
> > > > relevant. I have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. If it
> > > > is true that it is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it
> > > > is just causes confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not
> > > > supposed to be relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say
> > > > that I am totally able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try
> > > > things like that to diagnose a bug.
> > >
> > > [quote]
> > >
> > > Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
> > >
> > > The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > > solving his problem:
> > >
> > > [JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to mysql.
> > > Try disabling it.
> > > [SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has nothing
> > > to do with it. Get real (and go away).
> > >
> > > The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > > solving his problem:
> > >
> > > [JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try disabling
> > > it anyway.
> > > [SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How silly is that?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.biz
> > > Open Source Software Systems Integrators
> > > * Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications Development *
> > > --
> > > Search the list archives before you post
> > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general
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> > > If money can't buy happiness, I guess you'll just have to rent it.
> > > */
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Jennifer Goodie

-- Original message from "John Holmes" : -- 

> Whatever happened to those monthly stat posts? most posts, most posts per 
> thread, etc...?? Who was doing that? I haven't seen one in a while. 
> 
> ---John Holmes... 
> 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Curt Zirzow

* Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
> I appreciate your attempts to help, but you must understand that when 
> attempts to help just cause time to be wasted, then it might be appropriate 

:sigh:

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

John Holmes wrote:
From: "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
thread..

Whatever happened to those monthly stat posts? most posts, most posts 
per thread, etc...?? Who was doing that? I haven't seen one in a while.

---John Holmes...
Bill Doerrfeld
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STFA!!!
;)
Okay, someone else's turn to hijack the thread.  hehe
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Curt Zirzow

* Thus wrote Sam Hobbs:
> And the relevant portion of that says "external access", which is not 
> applicable here. I do not see anything else on that page that is relevant.

what is relevant? only the last one?  :sigh:


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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

John Holmes wrote:
From: "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
thread..

Whatever happened to those monthly stat posts? most posts, most posts 
per thread, etc...?? Who was doing that? I haven't seen one in a while.

---John Holmes...
I was looking for one the other day.  Curt used to do something with the 
stats a while back (I think), but someone else was doing it recently.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Andre Dubuc

Amazing how long that thread is -- must be a record. Seems to be classic case 
of 'ignore-the-obvious' or 'my-mind-is-made-up. Don't-confuse-me-with-facts'. 
Perhaps I should start a new thread:

"[PHP} Can't get NULL to output anything!"

hehe
Andre


On Friday 17 September 2004 03:11 pm, Jason Davidson wrote:
> hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
> thread..
>
> funny stuff.
>
> Jason
>
> Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> > > Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep
> > > insisting. I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and if and
> > > when other possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried the
> > > possibility of disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting upon it
> > > from others is not productive; it is more likley to polarize me in the
> > > opposite direction and get us to where we are now. It is the emotional
> > > commentary that is most unproductive. I try to explain (unemotionally
> > > and in a reasonable manner) that I don't need the additional assertion
> > > that I must try something and the response to that becomes emotional.
> >
> > Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your problem.
> > Time for another:
> >
> > [quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> >
> > > It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be
> > > relevant. I have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. If it
> > > is true that it is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it
> > > is just causes confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not
> > > supposed to be relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say
> > > that I am totally able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try
> > > things like that to diagnose a bug.
> >
> > [quote]
> >
> > Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
> >
> > The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > solving his problem:
> >
> > [JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to mysql.
> > Try disabling it.
> > [SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has nothing
> > to do with it. Get real (and go away).
> >
> > The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in
> > solving his problem:
> >
> > [JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try disabling
> > it anyway.
> > [SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
> >
> >
> >
> > How silly is that?
> >
> > --
> > Jason Wong -> Gremlins Associates -> www.gremlins.biz
> > Open Source Software Systems Integrators
> > * Web Design & Hosting * Internet & Intranet Applications Development *
> > --
> > Search the list archives before you post
> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

Im not sure who was doing that.  i missed that stuff i think.
Jason

"John Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> From: "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
> > thread..
> 
> Whatever happened to those monthly stat posts? most posts, most posts per 
> thread, etc...?? Who was doing that? I haven't seen one in a while.
> 
> ---John Holmes... 
> 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread John Holmes

From: "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
thread..
Whatever happened to those monthly stat posts? most posts, most posts per 
thread, etc...?? Who was doing that? I haven't seen one in a while.

---John Holmes... 

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

On Friday 17 September 2004 22:56, Sam Hobbs wrote:

> It definitely takes more than a minute. It takes nearly a minute just to
> logoff one user and I often have another user, the Administrator account,
> also logged in. If the Administrator account is not lgged in already, then
> I must log in to it to shutdown ZoneAlarm. Then the system must shutdown
> and restart. While that is happening, I must unplug the cable modem to
> ensure I get nothing from/to the outside, but that can be done in parrallel
> with system shutdown. However I must stay at the system while this is
> happening; I prefer to unplug the cable after the system disconnects from
> the modem. Then I must log in to at least one account and start a few
> things, such as Apache. Relatively speaking, Apache starts immediatley, so
> it is not very relevant, but it does take time for my system to start. Then
> after the test I must restart ZoneAlarm, restart the system and be sure to
> plug the modem back in while the system starts. The whole operation is
> likely to take nearly a half hour at least.

Correct me if I'm wrong but on my (Win98) system disabling ZoneAlarm is a 
simple matter of a few clicks. No need to restart Windows or anything ("Your 
mouse has moved, you need to restart Windows for the changes to take 
effect").

Doesn't your version of ZoneAlarm have options which allows you to quickly and 
simply DISABLE all internet access and ENABLE all internet access (in reality 
disable ZoneAlarm)?

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
thread.. 

funny stuff. 

Jason

Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> 
> > Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep insisting.
> > I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and if and when other
> > possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried the possibility of
> > disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting upon it from others is not
> > productive; it is more likley to polarize me in the opposite direction and
> > get us to where we are now. It is the emotional commentary that is most
> > unproductive. I try to explain (unemotionally and in a reasonable manner)
> > that I don't need the additional assertion that I must try something and
> > the response to that becomes emotional.
> 
> Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your problem. Time 
> for another:
> 
> [quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> > It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be relevant. I
> > have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. If it is true that it
> > is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it is just causes
> > confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not supposed to be
> > relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say that I am totally
> > able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try things like that to
> > diagnose a bug.
> [quote]
> 
> Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
> 
> The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in solving his 
> problem:
> 
> [JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to mysql. Try 
> disabling it.
> [SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has nothing to do 
> with it. Get real (and go away).
> 
> The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in solving his 
> problem:
> 
> [JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try disabling it 
> anyway.
> [SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
> 
> 
> 
> How silly is that?
> 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

On Saturday 18 September 2004 02:30, Jason Davidson wrote:
> Hey, the reason it doesnt come in to play for you in linux, is becuase
> mysql by default will connect through a unix socket, and not over
> tcpip.  The unix socket is a connection thru the filesystem and not the
> network.  Also, in linux, there is a virtual device for lopback, and the
> firewall i dont beleive has any effect on the loopback device.  In
> windows however, depending on what version, mysql will connect using
> tcp/ip, unless told otherwise, in this case, Sam supplied localhost to
> his connect function, which tells mysql explicitly to use the network
> over a named pipe.

Further food for thought. How you originally phrased the GRANT command in 
mysql will (potentially) affect your ability to connect. For example

  grant all on database.* to [EMAIL PROTECTED] identified by 'passwd';

is different to

  grant all on database.* to [EMAIL PROTECTED] identified by 'passwd';

and require that you use different connection parameters (at least under 
Linux).

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:

> Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep insisting.
> I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and if and when other
> possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried the possibility of
> disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting upon it from others is not
> productive; it is more likley to polarize me in the opposite direction and
> get us to where we are now. It is the emotional commentary that is most
> unproductive. I try to explain (unemotionally and in a reasonable manner)
> that I don't need the additional assertion that I must try something and
> the response to that becomes emotional.

Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your problem. Time 
for another:

[quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be relevant. I
> have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. If it is true that it
> is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it is just causes
> confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not supposed to be
> relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say that I am totally
> able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try things like that to
> diagnose a bug.
[quote]

Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:

The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in solving his 
problem:

[JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to mysql. Try 
disabling it.
[SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has nothing to do 
with it. Get real (and go away).

The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in solving his 
problem:

[JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try disabling it 
anyway.
[SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.



How silly is that?

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

Another test you might do , is use something like tcpdump to snif your
network to see exactly how its attempting to connect, then you could
ascertain on your own (as you dont beleive me) if mysql is connecting
over the network or through the filesystem.

Jason

Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> On Friday 17 September 2004 23:23, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> > "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > IIRC the OP did have a successful test case when connecting from the
> > > mysql client.
> >
> > Yes, I did get it to work.
> 
> It would help in diagnosing your problem if you told us what connection 
> parameters you used when connecting with the mysql client that made it work?
> 
> Also did you perform those dozen tests I outlined in a previous post.
> 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

Windows likely has some sort of loopback device, but i dunno how it
works

Ive also come accross people complaining that SP2 has funked up local
connections for various server/clients.  However, ive seen firewalls
cuase problems for mysql on both windows and linux, so ya.. who
knows... Sam knows.. apparently. :)

Jason

John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Jason Davidson wrote:
> > Hey, the reason it doesnt come in to play for you in linux, is becuase
> > mysql by default will connect through a unix socket, and not over
> > tcpip.  The unix socket is a connection thru the filesystem and not the
> > network.  Also, in linux, there is a virtual device for lopback, and the
> > firewall i dont beleive has any effect on the loopback device.  In
> > windows however, depending on what version, mysql will connect using
> > tcp/ip, unless told otherwise, in this case, Sam supplied localhost to
> > his connect function, which tells mysql explicitly to use the network
> > over a named pipe.
> > 
> > Jason
> 
> Windows doesn't have a loopback device?  Ye Gods, what were they 
> thinking
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

On Friday 17 September 2004 23:23, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>
> > IIRC the OP did have a successful test case when connecting from the
> > mysql client.
>
> Yes, I did get it to work.

It would help in diagnosing your problem if you told us what connection 
parameters you used when connecting with the mysql client that made it work?

Also did you perform those dozen tests I outlined in a previous post.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

Jason Davidson wrote:
Hey, the reason it doesnt come in to play for you in linux, is becuase
mysql by default will connect through a unix socket, and not over
tcpip.  The unix socket is a connection thru the filesystem and not the
network.  Also, in linux, there is a virtual device for lopback, and the
firewall i dont beleive has any effect on the loopback device.  In
windows however, depending on what version, mysql will connect using
tcp/ip, unless told otherwise, in this case, Sam supplied localhost to
his connect function, which tells mysql explicitly to use the network
over a named pipe.
Jason
Windows doesn't have a loopback device?  Ye Gods, what were they 
thinking

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

Hey, the reason it doesnt come in to play for you in linux, is becuase
mysql by default will connect through a unix socket, and not over
tcpip.  The unix socket is a connection thru the filesystem and not the
network.  Also, in linux, there is a virtual device for lopback, and the
firewall i dont beleive has any effect on the loopback device.  In
windows however, depending on what version, mysql will connect using
tcp/ip, unless told otherwise, in this case, Sam supplied localhost to
his connect function, which tells mysql explicitly to use the network
over a named pipe.

Jason

John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Steve Brown wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > OK, I'm going to jump in and try and take a stab at this.  
> > 
> > Sam, if you wouldn't mind answering a question: are you still unable
> > to connect to your mysql server?
> > 
> > I'll also add that your understanding of firwalls is lacking. 
> > Regardless of where your server is (local or remote), there is still a
> > client-server relationship happening.  If you are trying to connect to
> > localhost/127.0.0.1 (use the latter as previously recommended), your
> > system is acting as the server.  ANY consumer firewall (free or
> > otherwise) is going to block incoming packets not related to an
> > already established connection, regardless of where they originate.
> > 
> > Lots of consumer firewalls are going filter traffic on localhost
> > because lots of vicious spyware out there are starting to install
> > "daemons" on systems then rewiriting the HOSTS files to pull ads from
> > the localhost rather then hitting the marketers servers.  If you don't
> > believe me, google for "spyware HOSTS file".  To assume that your
> > firewall (ZoneAlarm, XP, or otherwise) is not in play here is false.
> 
> 
> This is why I originally said that the firewall shouldn't 
> matter...coming from the *nix world, it doesn't.  Even if I close off 
> port 3306 with iptables/ipchains, it's still going to allow local 
> connections, since the request is coming from, and going too localhost. 
>   I guess with Windows, you need to close internal and external 
> connections to be save. ;)
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

Steve Brown wrote:

OK, I'm going to jump in and try and take a stab at this.  

Sam, if you wouldn't mind answering a question: are you still unable
to connect to your mysql server?
I'll also add that your understanding of firwalls is lacking. 
Regardless of where your server is (local or remote), there is still a
client-server relationship happening.  If you are trying to connect to
localhost/127.0.0.1 (use the latter as previously recommended), your
system is acting as the server.  ANY consumer firewall (free or
otherwise) is going to block incoming packets not related to an
already established connection, regardless of where they originate.

Lots of consumer firewalls are going filter traffic on localhost
because lots of vicious spyware out there are starting to install
"daemons" on systems then rewiriting the HOSTS files to pull ads from
the localhost rather then hitting the marketers servers.  If you don't
believe me, google for "spyware HOSTS file".  To assume that your
firewall (ZoneAlarm, XP, or otherwise) is not in play here is false.

This is why I originally said that the firewall shouldn't 
matter...coming from the *nix world, it doesn't.  Even if I close off 
port 3306 with iptables/ipchains, it's still going to allow local 
connections, since the request is coming from, and going too localhost. 
 I guess with Windows, you need to close internal and external 
connections to be save. ;)

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Matthew Sims

> "Markus Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>>
>> It is our experience at my employer that the firewall in XP-SP2, as well
>> as
>> other firewalls that are available, are very relevant.
>
> Thank you. I have not seen anything that states that explicitly. I doubt
> that SP2 makes a difference; the main reason I mentioned it is just to be
> thorough. I am nearly certain that the XP firewall, including the XP-SP2
> version, is turned off.

You should check as XP SP2 firewall is turned on by default.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842242

A lot of programs are affected by this...possibly MySQL, too?

Anyways, I'm telling my friends and family to steer clear of SP2 upgrade
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-17 Thread Steve Brown



OK, I'm going to jump in and try and take a stab at this.  

Sam, if you wouldn't mind answering a question: are you still unable
to connect to your mysql server?

I'll also add that your understanding of firwalls is lacking. 
Regardless of where your server is (local or remote), there is still a
client-server relationship happening.  If you are trying to connect to
localhost/127.0.0.1 (use the latter as previously recommended), your
system is acting as the server.  ANY consumer firewall (free or
otherwise) is going to block incoming packets not related to an
already established connection, regardless of where they originate.

Lots of consumer firewalls are going filter traffic on localhost
because lots of vicious spyware out there are starting to install
"daemons" on systems then rewiriting the HOSTS files to pull ads from
the localhost rather then hitting the marketers servers.  If you don't
believe me, google for "spyware HOSTS file".  To assume that your
firewall (ZoneAlarm, XP, or otherwise) is not in play here is false.

At this point, you need to disable the firewall completely (just for
testing) and/or find a way to open the MySQL port (port 3306) on
localhost to incoming traffic in your firewall.  I know that you don't
think this is the problem, but the only way you are going to know is
if you try.

I'm sorry that you feel its a time-consuming process.  I'm sorry that
you are confused about the involvement of the firewall.  I'm sorry
that you feel you know better than everyone on this list.  Just try
this and prove us wrong.

Steve

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

The last paragraph refers to me :) and im quite proud of it now, ive
printed some of your emails out, and i keep them around, they really do
make me smile, not becuase im so much an a$$hole, but becuase, youve
already said, that altering your firewall allowed you to connect. 
Which not so coincidently, i suggested in the beginning.  You call it a
guess, an uneducated blunder maybe,  whatever helps you sleep at night

PS.. takes you half hour to drop your firewall.. sheesh,.. and for note,
and honestly, for your benefit, SP2 _will_ enable a _new_ firewall on
your computer, unless youve configured otherwise, there is a new
security center that will complain if your firewall is not enabled,
have you seen this complaint?

J


"Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> >
> > The firewall is relevant depending on your circumstances. In any case it 
> > would
> > take you all of one minute to disable your firewall to test out this "wild
> > far out suggestion". At the most you would have lost one minute but you 
> > would
> > have either:
> >
> > - gained the satisfaction of saying "I told you the firewall was 
> > irrelevant,
> > now go away and stop wasting my time with your ridiculous suggestions"
> >
> > or
> >
> > - you would have found the cause of your problem
> 
> It definitely takes more than a minute. It takes nearly a minute just to 
> logoff one user and I often have another user, the Administrator account, 
> also logged in. If the Administrator account is not lgged in already, then I 
> must log in to it to shutdown ZoneAlarm. Then the system must shutdown and 
> restart. While that is happening, I must unplug the cable modem to ensure I 
> get nothing from/to the outside, but that can be done in parrallel with 
> system shutdown. However I must stay at the system while this is happening; 
> I prefer to unplug the cable after the system disconnects from the modem. 
> Then I must log in to at least one account and start a few things, such as 
> Apache. Relatively speaking, Apache starts immediatley, so it is not very 
> relevant, but it does take time for my system to start. Then after the test 
> I must restart ZoneAlarm, restart the system and be sure to plug the modem 
> back in while the system starts. The whole operation is likely to take 
> nearly a half hour at least.
> 
> > Contrast that with the number of posts you have made denying that the 
> > firewall
> > could be a problem, and stating adamantly that you will not do 
> > such-and-such
> > a thing because it is 'not supposed' to happen like that.
> 
> The problem is all the people that persist in saying the same thing. I am 
> smart enough to think of the things being suggested. It is the type of thing 
> that is very easy to suggest. I get frustrated by people suggesting things 
> just because they are easy to suggest. Therefore when people make a 
> suggestion that is more likely to be relevant it is difficult for me to 
> determine which ones are worthwhile. And again, I am able to think of things 
> such as eliminating the firewall as a possibility. It is okay for people to 
> suggest that, but unless they can show me something that clearly says it is 
> relevant, then they won't accomplish anything by insisting.
> 
> One problem is that I get answers that are not accurate, so it is difficult 
> to know which ones are accurate.
> 
> The most important thing is that unless people give me a clear explanation 
> of what they are saying, it is useless to insist. I don't mind a suggestion 
> as much as it is the insisting that causes problems. Therefore from my point 
> of view, it is the insistance by others that keep the discussion going (in 
> useless directions).
> 
> There is one person in particular that tries too hard to help and then when 
> I politely say I am getting too much help I get criticized. That is not a 
> productive attitude.
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"Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> IIRC the OP did have a successful test case when connecting from the mysql
> client.

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> The MySQL functions work fine in php5.  It just doesn't support all the 
> features available in MySQL => 4.1.0.  Unlike php4, support for MySQL 
> isn't bundled in php5, but when enabled, it works.


Thank you. I will try to remember that everything you say is very likely to 
be useful and accurate.

As far as I can remember, all that I had to do to enable the mysql extension 
is to uncomment the line for the extension in php.ini and add php to my 
path. However I had problem initially and it was caused by the (Windows) 
registry entry that also specifies the path (to php.ini?), so for new 
installations that registry entry might be important too.

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"Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> IIRC the OP did have a successful test case when connecting from the mysql
> client.


Yes, I did get it to work.


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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

It is innacuracies such as this that make it difficult for me to pursue the 
useful suggestions.


"Chris Dowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> All this is irrelevant; while you're still trying to use MySQL 5 with 
> mysql_connect() instead of mysqli_connect(), it WILL NEVER WORK
>
> Sort that out first before you start worrying about firewalls - you can't 
> test the firewall if you can't ever have a successful test case.

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"Markus Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> It is our experience at my employer that the firewall in XP-SP2, as well 
> as
> other firewalls that are available, are very relevant.

Thank you. I have not seen anything that states that explicitly. I doubt 
that SP2 makes a difference; the main reason I mentioned it is just to be 
thorough. I am nearly certain that the XP firewall, including the XP-SP2 
version, is turned off.

> We also have not seen any documentation about "problems" with such things
> after installing SP2, but we have problems.  Things that worked before 
> don't
> work any more, especially client side things.  Our three small Windoze
> servers have given our Windoze administrator more than enough work 
> recently.

Supposedly there is something that is about 30 pages that lists hundreds of 
incompatibility problems. Therefore it is likely that most of the "don't 
work any more" problems are identified by Microsoft.

> flame blocked by firewall.

Then ignore it. Just calling it a flame is likely to add fuel. I prefer to 
limit the discussion to facts, which is not happening in this discussion. 
The word "flame" is usually an unnecessary emotional expression

> SP2 is so new that its effects are still being evaluated by a lot of 
> people.
> At the moment, I think the best place to get information about its effects 
> is
> forums like this one.  Formal documentation will be updated in time as 
> more
> experience is gained.  The info I got from our Windows admin is that with
> SP2, the MS SQL server on one machine was apparenty unaffected, but the 
> MySQL
> on another was.  Dropping the MS Firewall in SP2 allowed connections 
> again.
>
> Client side, SP2 has caused nothing but problems for us to the point where 
> we
> as administrators are now saying to our users "it was working before you
> installed SP2, and after you installed SP2 it stopped working, so it's 
> your
> problem".  IE is especially problematic, and when someone calls up and 
> says
> they have a problem with IE and have installed SP2, our response is that 
> we
> no longer support IE and tell the users to install Mozilla, and if they 
> still
> have problems when they try Mozilla, they can call us back.  We haven't 
> heard
> from any of them again, and our help desk girls have always been able to
> quickly sort out the problems users have when they first try Mozilla.

Again, I doubt that SP2 is actually relevant, especially if I am correct 
that I am not using the firewall. If I am correct that it is not relevant, 
then dwelling on it is the type of thing causes confuson about what is 
usefull

I am not aware of any problem caused by SP2 except that it makes a little 
more work for me due to it's increased security and ti complains about a few 
things that I see no reason for it to complain about. I hope that if it is 
causing a problem I will be able to determine that but so far I have no 
reason to believe SP2 is relevant here.

> I looked back in this thread and saw that you used Zone Alarm as a 
> firewall.
> You need to allow MySQL connections to localhost, and that regardless of
> which firewall you use.  If you filter such connections out, PHP scripts 
> will
> not be able to connect to your MySQL server.  This is because PHP makes a 
> TCP
> connection to the MySQL server, also when it is running on the same 
> machine
> as you PHP/Apache (at least this is my understanding).  You can of course
> continue refuse all external (that is not from localhost) connections to
> whatever service is running on your machine.  I think something to this
> effect has already been said in this thread, but at the moment I don't 
> want
> to search for the post.

Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep insisting. I 
am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and if and when other 
possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried the possibility of 
disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting upon it from others is not 
productive; it is more likley to polarize me in the opposite direction and 
get us to where we are now. It is the emotional commentary that is most 
unproductive. I try to explain (unemotionally and in a reasonable manner) 
that I don't need the additional assertion that I must try something and the 
response to that becomes emotional.

> While the flame war in this thread has been amusing to read, it's 
> amusement
> value for me has more or less run out.  My impression is that you still 
> don't
> have the thing working, and the only solution left is to configure your
> firewall to allow connections to your MySQL server from localhost.  If you
> would do this, and it works, please post to the list to reflect this.  My
> experience as an administrator tells me with a 99% certainty that this is
> your problem.

Again, it is unproductive to repeat the same thing over and over. When 
someone repeats it, I have a tendency to respond to that. We

Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

"Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The firewall is relevant depending on your circumstances. In any case it 
> would
> take you all of one minute to disable your firewall to test out this "wild
> far out suggestion". At the most you would have lost one minute but you 
> would
> have either:
>
> - gained the satisfaction of saying "I told you the firewall was 
> irrelevant,
> now go away and stop wasting my time with your ridiculous suggestions"
>
> or
>
> - you would have found the cause of your problem

It definitely takes more than a minute. It takes nearly a minute just to 
logoff one user and I often have another user, the Administrator account, 
also logged in. If the Administrator account is not lgged in already, then I 
must log in to it to shutdown ZoneAlarm. Then the system must shutdown and 
restart. While that is happening, I must unplug the cable modem to ensure I 
get nothing from/to the outside, but that can be done in parrallel with 
system shutdown. However I must stay at the system while this is happening; 
I prefer to unplug the cable after the system disconnects from the modem. 
Then I must log in to at least one account and start a few things, such as 
Apache. Relatively speaking, Apache starts immediatley, so it is not very 
relevant, but it does take time for my system to start. Then after the test 
I must restart ZoneAlarm, restart the system and be sure to plug the modem 
back in while the system starts. The whole operation is likely to take 
nearly a half hour at least.

> Contrast that with the number of posts you have made denying that the 
> firewall
> could be a problem, and stating adamantly that you will not do 
> such-and-such
> a thing because it is 'not supposed' to happen like that.

The problem is all the people that persist in saying the same thing. I am 
smart enough to think of the things being suggested. It is the type of thing 
that is very easy to suggest. I get frustrated by people suggesting things 
just because they are easy to suggest. Therefore when people make a 
suggestion that is more likely to be relevant it is difficult for me to 
determine which ones are worthwhile. And again, I am able to think of things 
such as eliminating the firewall as a possibility. It is okay for people to 
suggest that, but unless they can show me something that clearly says it is 
relevant, then they won't accomplish anything by insisting.

One problem is that I get answers that are not accurate, so it is difficult 
to know which ones are accurate.

The most important thing is that unless people give me a clear explanation 
of what they are saying, it is useless to insist. I don't mind a suggestion 
as much as it is the insisting that causes problems. Therefore from my point 
of view, it is the insistance by others that keep the discussion going (in 
useless directions).

There is one person in particular that tries too hard to help and then when 
I politely say I am getting too much help I get criticized. That is not a 
productive attitude.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-16 Thread Jason Davidson

i am in total agreeance of this post.  Sinse the 'flame' war is
primarily between me and everyone else, especially sam hobbes, (not the
first time either), no more contributiuons to this thread from me.  I
hope it gets resolved, and i hope it gets posted as much so others can
search the archive of this thread for solutions.  

If anyone actually wants to discuss, and not argue, over the relevance
of a firewall in this sitiution, please start a new thread.  

Jason


Markus Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> On Thursday 16 September 2004 05:06, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> > It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be relevant. I
> 
> It is our experience at my employer that the firewall in XP-SP2, as well as 
> other firewalls that are available, are very relevant.
> 
> > have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. 
> 
> We also have not seen any documentation about "problems" with such things 
> after installing SP2, but we have problems.  Things that worked before don't 
> work any more, especially client side things.  Our three small Windoze 
> servers have given our Windoze administrator more than enough work recently.
> 
> > If it is true that it 
> > is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it is just causes
> > confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not supposed to be
> > relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say that I am totally
> > able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try things like that to
> > diagnose a bug.
> 
> flame blocked by firewall.
> 
> > If you can find something in the MySQL documentation saying that the
> > firewall needs to be disabled eventhough the server and client are the same
> > system, then that would sure help. I am not asking you to; I am saying that
> > that is what would help.
> 
> SP2 is so new that its effects are still being evaluated by a lot of people.  
> At the moment, I think the best place to get information about its effects is 
> forums like this one.  Formal documentation will be updated in time as more 
> experience is gained.  The info I got from our Windows admin is that with 
> SP2, the MS SQL server on one machine was apparenty unaffected, but the MySQL 
> on another was.  Dropping the MS Firewall in SP2 allowed connections again.
> 
> Client side, SP2 has caused nothing but problems for us to the point where we 
> as administrators are now saying to our users "it was working before you 
> installed SP2, and after you installed SP2 it stopped working, so it's your 
> problem".  IE is especially problematic, and when someone calls up and says 
> they have a problem with IE and have installed SP2, our response is that we 
> no longer support IE and tell the users to install Mozilla, and if they still 
> have problems when they try Mozilla, they can call us back.  We haven't heard 
> from any of them again, and our help desk girls have always been able to 
> quickly sort out the problems users have when they first try Mozilla.
> 
> I looked back in this thread and saw that you used Zone Alarm as a firewall.  
> You need to allow MySQL connections to localhost, and that regardless of 
> which firewall you use.  If you filter such connections out, PHP scripts will 
> not be able to connect to your MySQL server.  This is because PHP makes a TCP 
> connection to the MySQL server, also when it is running on the same machine 
> as you PHP/Apache (at least this is my understanding).  You can of course 
> continue refuse all external (that is not from localhost) connections to 
> whatever service is running on your machine.  I think something to this 
> effect has already been said in this thread, but at the moment I don't want 
> to search for the post.
> 
> While the flame war in this thread has been amusing to read, it's amusement 
> value for me has more or less run out.  My impression is that you still don't 
> have the thing working, and the only solution left is to configure your 
> firewall to allow connections to your MySQL server from localhost.  If you 
> would do this, and it works, please post to the list to reflect this.  My 
> experience as an administrator tells me with a 99% certainty that this is 
> your problem.
> 
> regards
> Markus
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-16 Thread John Nichel

Chris Dowell wrote:
All this is irrelevant; while you're still trying to use MySQL 5 with 
mysql_connect() instead of mysqli_connect(), it WILL NEVER WORK

Sort that out first before you start worrying about firewalls - you 
can't test the firewall if you can't ever have a successful test case.

Cheers
Chris
The MySQL functions work fine in php5.  It just doesn't support all the 
features available in MySQL => 4.1.0.  Unlike php4, support for MySQL 
isn't bundled in php5, but when enabled, it works.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-16 Thread Jason Wong

On Thursday 16 September 2004 17:52, Chris Dowell wrote:
> All this is irrelevant; while you're still trying to use MySQL 5 with
> mysql_connect() instead of mysqli_connect(), it WILL NEVER WORK
>
> Sort that out first before you start worrying about firewalls - you
> can't test the firewall if you can't ever have a successful test case.

IIRC the OP did have a successful test case when connecting from the mysql 
client.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-16 Thread Chris Dowell

All this is irrelevant; while you're still trying to use MySQL 5 with 
mysql_connect() instead of mysqli_connect(), it WILL NEVER WORK

Sort that out first before you start worrying about firewalls - you 
can't test the firewall if you can't ever have a successful test case.

Cheers
Chris
Markus Mayer wrote:
On Thursday 16 September 2004 05:06, Sam Hobbs wrote:
 

It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be relevant. I
   

It is our experience at my employer that the firewall in XP-SP2, as well as 
other firewalls that are available, are very relevant.

 

have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. 
   

We also have not seen any documentation about "problems" with such things 
after installing SP2, but we have problems.  Things that worked before don't 
work any more, especially client side things.  Our three small Windoze 
servers have given our Windoze administrator more than enough work recently.

 

If it is true that it 
is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it is just causes
confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not supposed to be
relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say that I am totally
able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try things like that to
diagnose a bug.
   

flame blocked by firewall.
 

If you can find something in the MySQL documentation saying that the
firewall needs to be disabled eventhough the server and client are the same
system, then that would sure help. I am not asking you to; I am saying that
that is what would help.
   

SP2 is so new that its effects are still being evaluated by a lot of people.  
At the moment, I think the best place to get information about its effects is 
forums like this one.  Formal documentation will be updated in time as more 
experience is gained.  The info I got from our Windows admin is that with 
SP2, the MS SQL server on one machine was apparenty unaffected, but the MySQL 
on another was.  Dropping the MS Firewall in SP2 allowed connections again.

Client side, SP2 has caused nothing but problems for us to the point where we 
as administrators are now saying to our users "it was working before you 
installed SP2, and after you installed SP2 it stopped working, so it's your 
problem".  IE is especially problematic, and when someone calls up and says 
they have a problem with IE and have installed SP2, our response is that we 
no longer support IE and tell the users to install Mozilla, and if they still 
have problems when they try Mozilla, they can call us back.  We haven't heard 
from any of them again, and our help desk girls have always been able to 
quickly sort out the problems users have when they first try Mozilla.

I looked back in this thread and saw that you used Zone Alarm as a firewall.  
You need to allow MySQL connections to localhost, and that regardless of 
which firewall you use.  If you filter such connections out, PHP scripts will 
not be able to connect to your MySQL server.  This is because PHP makes a TCP 
connection to the MySQL server, also when it is running on the same machine 
as you PHP/Apache (at least this is my understanding).  You can of course 
continue refuse all external (that is not from localhost) connections to 
whatever service is running on your machine.  I think something to this 
effect has already been said in this thread, but at the moment I don't want 
to search for the post.

While the flame war in this thread has been amusing to read, it's amusement 
value for me has more or less run out.  My impression is that you still don't 
have the thing working, and the only solution left is to configure your 
firewall to allow connections to your MySQL server from localhost.  If you 
would do this, and it works, please post to the list to reflect this.  My 
experience as an administrator tells me with a 99% certainty that this is 
your problem.

regards
Markus
 

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-16 Thread Markus Mayer

On Thursday 16 September 2004 05:06, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be relevant. I

It is our experience at my employer that the firewall in XP-SP2, as well as 
other firewalls that are available, are very relevant.

> have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. 

We also have not seen any documentation about "problems" with such things 
after installing SP2, but we have problems.  Things that worked before don't 
work any more, especially client side things.  Our three small Windoze 
servers have given our Windoze administrator more than enough work recently.

> If it is true that it 
> is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it is just causes
> confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not supposed to be
> relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say that I am totally
> able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try things like that to
> diagnose a bug.

flame blocked by firewall.

> If you can find something in the MySQL documentation saying that the
> firewall needs to be disabled eventhough the server and client are the same
> system, then that would sure help. I am not asking you to; I am saying that
> that is what would help.

SP2 is so new that its effects are still being evaluated by a lot of people.  
At the moment, I think the best place to get information about its effects is 
forums like this one.  Formal documentation will be updated in time as more 
experience is gained.  The info I got from our Windows admin is that with 
SP2, the MS SQL server on one machine was apparenty unaffected, but the MySQL 
on another was.  Dropping the MS Firewall in SP2 allowed connections again.

Client side, SP2 has caused nothing but problems for us to the point where we 
as administrators are now saying to our users "it was working before you 
installed SP2, and after you installed SP2 it stopped working, so it's your 
problem".  IE is especially problematic, and when someone calls up and says 
they have a problem with IE and have installed SP2, our response is that we 
no longer support IE and tell the users to install Mozilla, and if they still 
have problems when they try Mozilla, they can call us back.  We haven't heard 
from any of them again, and our help desk girls have always been able to 
quickly sort out the problems users have when they first try Mozilla.

I looked back in this thread and saw that you used Zone Alarm as a firewall.  
You need to allow MySQL connections to localhost, and that regardless of 
which firewall you use.  If you filter such connections out, PHP scripts will 
not be able to connect to your MySQL server.  This is because PHP makes a TCP 
connection to the MySQL server, also when it is running on the same machine 
as you PHP/Apache (at least this is my understanding).  You can of course 
continue refuse all external (that is not from localhost) connections to 
whatever service is running on your machine.  I think something to this 
effect has already been said in this thread, but at the moment I don't want 
to search for the post.

While the flame war in this thread has been amusing to read, it's amusement 
value for me has more or less run out.  My impression is that you still don't 
have the thing working, and the only solution left is to configure your 
firewall to allow connections to your MySQL server from localhost.  If you 
would do this, and it works, please post to the list to reflect this.  My 
experience as an administrator tells me with a 99% certainty that this is 
your problem.

regards
Markus

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-16 Thread Jason Wong

On Thursday 16 September 2004 11:06, Sam Hobbs wrote:

> It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be relevant. I
> have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. If it is true that it
> is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it is just causes
> confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not supposed to be
> relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say that I am totally
> able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try things like that to
> diagnose a bug.

The firewall is relevant depending on your circumstances. In any case it would 
take you all of one minute to disable your firewall to test out this "wild 
far out suggestion". At the most you would have lost one minute but you would 
have either:

- gained the satisfaction of saying "I told you the firewall was irrelevant, 
now go away and stop wasting my time with your ridiculous suggestions"

 or

- you would have found the cause of your problem

Contrast that with the number of posts you have made denying that the firewall 
could be a problem, and stating adamantly that you will not do such-and-such 
a thing because it is 'not supposed' to happen like that.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
> Now that you have figured out, that it is possible its your firewall,
> which, many, and i think you claimed before was impossible, what
> exactly makes you sure i said anything invalid.

It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be relevant. I 
have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. If it is true that it is 
not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it is just causes confusion. 
If you had said that the firewall is not supposed to be relevant, but try 
disabling it anyway, then I would say that I am totally able to think like 
that too. It is reasonable to try things like that to diagnose a bug.

If you can find something in the MySQL documentation saying that the 
firewall needs to be disabled eventhough the server and client are the same 
system, then that would sure help. I am not asking you to; I am saying that 
that is what would help.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

"Greg Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> Yeah, seeing how we don't have physical access to your system that's
> all you will get is guesses and suggestions.  If you want definative
> answers, hire a consultant, bring them to your pc, and pay them to fix
> it.

I have posted many thousands (literally) messages in another forum trying to 
help people. So most of the time the roles are reversed. I know when others 
are guessing. In that forum, the few times that I asked questions, I got 
many guesses that were a waste of time.

One way of defining a guess is something that I am able to think of myself.

> If you wanted us to know what versions of software you are using, no
> one is stopping you from saying so.

I did! You just want to be critical!

> Since when does "fully tested" mean bug free?

When I say untested, I mean that the developers of the software have defined 
these versions as being untested. It is their definition; there are also 
production versions of the software that is considered to be adequately 
tested.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-15 Thread Greg Donald

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:06:11 -0700, Sam Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am the original poster. The reason I avoid doing things like that is
> because it is a guess. It should not be necessary; the firewal should not be
> relevant. Sometimes people suggest things that are not likely to be a
> solution but are easy to suggest.

Yeah, seeing how we don't have physical access to your system that's
all you will get is guesses and suggestions.  If you want definative
answers, hire a consultant, bring them to your pc, and pay them to fix
it.

> However I also believe in being methodical and in verifying assumptions. It
> does help to eliminate possilities. Something that has not been mentioned is
> that I am using versions that are not fully tested,

If you wanted us to know what versions of software you are using, no
one is stopping you from saying so.

> so it is possible that
> there are bugs.

Since when does "fully tested" mean bug free?

> Apparently something is trying to use the internet that is
> not supposed to. If I am correct, then it is difficult to say what I should
> try except that I should eliminate possibilities in the manner you say.

You obviously know what's best Sam..  Good luck.


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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-15 Thread Jason Davidson

Good day, im glad you seem to have resolved your problem, i shall
comment on your comments.

"Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> I appreciate your attempts to help, but you must understand that when 
> attempts to help just cause time to be wasted, then it might be appropriate 
> to not appreciate the help. 
Its no waste of time to attempt a solution, if it doesnt work, youve
eliminated that solution.  That is one step closer.

>Then when I try to explain that you are not 
> helping, you make comments such as this, trying to blame me. If I am the 
> only person you do this to, then I can live with it. If however you do this 
> to others, then I hope you are told by others that you are trying too hard 
> to help and that you resort to insulting others when you don't help.

Im bashing my head on the wall now

> 
> Perhaps there is some validity to what you are saying, but you are also 
> saying some things that are not valid, which makes it difficult or 
> impossible to determine what is valid. I do try to tell you in reasonably 
> polite and useful ways that much of what you say is not helpful. Obviously I 
> need to just ignore your help instead.
> 
Now that you have figured out, that it is possible its your firewall,
which, many, and i think you claimed before was impossible, what
exactly makes you sure i said anything invalid.


Now that my rant is done, i made it clear, that i i have solved a
problem with your EXACT error msg before.  That makes this not a guess,
but an educated and experienced suggestion.  and yes, all forms of help
on this form are as such. 

Yup, im an a$$hole , i dont like being completely shutdown by people
requesting help, when i take the time to impart some experience... 

J


> 
> "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > There is an issue with sp2 and loopback, you can argue all you like, but
> > many have had this problem, and many have resolved it. Mysql will not
> > connect through udp, it will use tcp.  If you supply a hostname in your
> > connect function, it will use tcpip to connect over a port, if oyu dont
> > supply a hostname, or i beleive put a '.' in its place, it will attempt
> > to connect through a named pipe which doesnt use the network.  In the
> > time you spend writing this email, you could have attemped a suggested
> > solution.
> >
> > A little more acceptance to help would gain a lot more respect from me,
> > not that you probably care about others respect.
> >
> > And for further note, for the sake of discussion, as you have mentioned
> > to me on a certain forum.  A firewall can absolutely interfere with a
> > connection to mysql even if you are using localhost, if, and only if,
> > that connection is being done over tcpip, which in unix, is rarely, but
> > in windows, is not all that rare.
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"Greg Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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>
> I lost track of who the original poster was, but anyway...
>
> Why not disconnect from the internet, turn off all the firewalls, and
> then see if it works.  If it doesn't then post some error messages and
> code for what's being tried and failing.

I am the original poster. The reason I avoid doing things like that is 
because it is a guess. It should not be necessary; the firewal should not be 
relevant. Sometimes people suggest things that are not likely to be a 
solution but are easy to suggest.

However I also believe in being methodical and in verifying assumptions. It 
does help to eliminate possilities. Something that has not been mentioned is 
that I am using versions that are not fully tested, so it is possible that 
there are bugs. Apparently something is trying to use the internet that is 
not supposed to. If I am correct, then it is difficult to say what I should 
try except that I should eliminate possibilities in the manner you say.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

I appreciate your attempts to help, but you must understand that when 
attempts to help just cause time to be wasted, then it might be appropriate 
to not appreciate the help. Then when I try to explain that you are not 
helping, you make comments such as this, trying to blame me. If I am the 
only person you do this to, then I can live with it. If however you do this 
to others, then I hope you are told by others that you are trying too hard 
to help and that you resort to insulting others when you don't help.

Perhaps there is some validity to what you are saying, but you are also 
saying some things that are not valid, which makes it difficult or 
impossible to determine what is valid. I do try to tell you in reasonably 
polite and useful ways that much of what you say is not helpful. Obviously I 
need to just ignore your help instead.


"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> There is an issue with sp2 and loopback, you can argue all you like, but
> many have had this problem, and many have resolved it. Mysql will not
> connect through udp, it will use tcp.  If you supply a hostname in your
> connect function, it will use tcpip to connect over a port, if oyu dont
> supply a hostname, or i beleive put a '.' in its place, it will attempt
> to connect through a named pipe which doesnt use the network.  In the
> time you spend writing this email, you could have attemped a suggested
> solution.
>
> A little more acceptance to help would gain a lot more respect from me,
> not that you probably care about others respect.
>
> And for further note, for the sake of discussion, as you have mentioned
> to me on a certain forum.  A firewall can absolutely interfere with a
> connection to mysql even if you are using localhost, if, and only if,
> that connection is being done over tcpip, which in unix, is rarely, but
> in windows, is not all that rare.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

ok, your the boss on this, i give up :)  what does experience provide
anyways.. 
the important thing is, i can connect to my mysql database :)

Jason

"Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> And the relevant portion of that says "external access", which is not 
> applicable here. I do not see anything else on that page that is relevant.
> 
> 
> "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ok, well, i just posted a link for you to check out, it gives insight on
> > how mysql connects on different platforms, this will of use to you i
> > think, the last few bullets in the page i linked to are of some
> > importance to your error msg which says, cant connect to localhost, and
> > not, cant connect through socket...
> >
> > again, link,,
> > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Can_not_connect_to_server.html
> 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

There is an issue with sp2 and loopback, you can argue all you like, but
many have had this problem, and many have resolved it. Mysql will not
connect through udp, it will use tcp.  If you supply a hostname in your
connect function, it will use tcpip to connect over a port, if oyu dont
supply a hostname, or i beleive put a '.' in its place, it will attempt
to connect through a named pipe which doesnt use the network.  In the
time you spend writing this email, you could have attemped a suggested
solution.  

A little more acceptance to help would gain a lot more respect from me,
not that you probably care about others respect.

And for further note, for the sake of discussion, as you have mentioned
to me on a certain forum.  A firewall can absolutely interfere with a
connection to mysql even if you are using localhost, if, and only if,
that connection is being done over tcpip, which in unix, is rarely, but
in windows, is not all that rare.  

Jason

"Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> "John Nichel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Jason Davidson wrote:
> >> The webpage of coarse, is not local, regardless of where its hosted, so
> >> a firewall will come into play when trying to connect.  You dont have 
> >> disable it, i should have been specifc i suppose, you must
> >> allow for the mysql port to be open. :)
> >> Whats for others to confirm, try it yourself and see if it works.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >
> > You understanding of how this works is a bit off Jason.  If you make a 
> > call to one of my web sites from your machine via a browser, the _only_ 
> > port I need to have open to the outside is 80 (or whatever port I have my 
> > web server running on), even if I make 1000 calls to a local db, but this 
> > has nothing to do with how the web server talks to MySQL.  What is meant 
> > by local here, is that the MySQL db and web server are on the same 
> > machine. A firewall comes into play when your web browser requests a page 
> > from my web server, but does not come into play when that page has to 
> > connect to a local db before sending content to you.  Your remote machine 
> > never talks to my local MySQL db.
> 
> 
> Thank you. As I said previously, I did think that the firewall would not be 
> relevant.
> 
> I don't know a lot about the TCP/IP stuff but I do know enough to write a 
> couple of simple programs. They are actually UDP programs. An example is my 
> "UDP Send and Receive Using CAsyncSocket" at:
> 
> http://simplesamples.info/MFC/UDPSendReceive.php
> 
> Using it, I can send and receive UDP packets within my system using 
> 127.0.0.1 without any problem from my firewall.
> 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

And the relevant portion of that says "external access", which is not 
applicable here. I do not see anything else on that page that is relevant.


"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ok, well, i just posted a link for you to check out, it gives insight on
> how mysql connects on different platforms, this will of use to you i
> think, the last few bullets in the page i linked to are of some
> importance to your error msg which says, cant connect to localhost, and
> not, cant connect through socket...
>
> again, link,,
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Can_not_connect_to_server.html

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

"John Nichel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Jason Davidson wrote:
>> The webpage of coarse, is not local, regardless of where its hosted, so
>> a firewall will come into play when trying to connect.  You dont have 
>> disable it, i should have been specifc i suppose, you must
>> allow for the mysql port to be open. :)
>> Whats for others to confirm, try it yourself and see if it works.
>>
>> Jason
>
> You understanding of how this works is a bit off Jason.  If you make a 
> call to one of my web sites from your machine via a browser, the _only_ 
> port I need to have open to the outside is 80 (or whatever port I have my 
> web server running on), even if I make 1000 calls to a local db, but this 
> has nothing to do with how the web server talks to MySQL.  What is meant 
> by local here, is that the MySQL db and web server are on the same 
> machine. A firewall comes into play when your web browser requests a page 
> from my web server, but does not come into play when that page has to 
> connect to a local db before sending content to you.  Your remote machine 
> never talks to my local MySQL db.


Thank you. As I said previously, I did think that the firewall would not be 
relevant.

I don't know a lot about the TCP/IP stuff but I do know enough to write a 
couple of simple programs. They are actually UDP programs. An example is my 
"UDP Send and Receive Using CAsyncSocket" at:

http://simplesamples.info/MFC/UDPSendReceive.php

Using it, I can send and receive UDP packets within my system using 
127.0.0.1 without any problem from my firewall.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

Note that there is a difference between the php_mysqli and the php_mysql 
extensions. I have both php_mysqli.dll and php_mysql.dll in my PHP501\ext 
directory, but I don't have the "extension=php_mysqli.dll" line in my 
php.ini file. Is that something that should be in the php.ini (with a ";" to 
comment it out) file for php 5.0.1?

I will try adding the "extension=php_mysqli.dll" line in my php.ini file 
later when I have time. I did not try earlier since the commented version is 
not in the php.ini file, either commented or uncommented.


"Chris Dowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> Sam
>
> Your problem probably does stem from the extension not being installed.
>
> You say you're using (IIRC) mySQL 4.1
>
> This requires you to use the mysqli extension, not the mysql extension
>
> As you're on windows, it's probably just a case of uncommenting the
>
> extension=php_mysqli.dll
>
> line in your php.ini, but I'm not sure as I don't have much experience 
> configuring PHP for windows.
>
> Anyway - as far as I can tell from what you've said, that's likely to be 
> your problem - your timeout is occurring because the mysql extension 
> cannot connect, not because of any firewall issues.
>
> From the manual entry on MySQL (http://www.php.net/mysql):
>
>> This MySQL extension doesn't support full functionality of MySQL versions 
>> greater than 4.1.0. For that, use MySQLi.
>
> If you then look at the entry for MySQLi (http://www.php.net/mysqli), 
> you'll see this:
>
>> The mysqli extension allows you to access the functionality provided by 
>> MySQL 4.1 and above.
>
> Then this page 
> (http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.windows.extensions.php) about 
> installing extension on windows should get you the rest of the way.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
> Sam Hobbs wrote:
>
>>"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>>Also, a google on the error returns hundreds of results..
>>>http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Can%27t+connect+to+++MySQL+server+on+%27localhost%27+%2810061%29&btnG=Search&meta=
>>>
>>
>>
>>Yes, I could have searched more first. And yes, that search does get an 
>>abundance of results. However I see no solutions relevant to my problem. 
>>Many of the solutions say things such as that the extension is not 
>>installed or that MySQL is not installed.
>>
>>Many (close to half I think) of the results are pages that have the error, 
>>so the abundance of results indicates it is a prevalent problem that is 
>>often not easily solved.
>>
>> 

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-14 Thread Greg Donald

> Of coarse, this may not be the issue he is having, but it is an issue i
> have dealt with before, as retarded as you all seem to think it is.

I lost track of who the original poster was, but anyway...

Why not disconnect from the internet, turn off all the firewalls, and
then see if it works.  If it doesn't then post some error messages and
code for what's being tried and failing.


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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

And for more testimonies, sinse i fear im getting absolutely no credit
for having any knowledge of mysql and php.. :P  (i say that in jest of
coarse)
search this in google and see how many people fixed the very problem by
disabling or adjusting the firewall.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=mysql+firewall+localhost&btnG=Search&meta=

Cheers, and good luck

Jason

"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> ok, well, i just posted a link for you to check out, it gives insight on
> how mysql connects on different platforms, this will of use to you i
> think, the last few bullets in the page i linked to are of some
> importance to your error msg which says, cant connect to localhost, and
> not, cant connect through socket...
> 
> again, link,,
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Can_not_connect_to_server.html
> 
> Jason
> 
> "Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > The firewall I am using is ZoneAlarm, the free version. I am nearly certain 
> > that it does not allow specific ports to be opened, at least not for 
> > specific addresses. So if this were a requirement, probably many others 
> > would have that specific problem.
> > 
> > However if nothing else works, I will try to look into this further when I 
> > have time. At the moment I must spend time on something else.
> > 
> > 
> > "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > The webpage of coarse, is not local, regardless of where its hosted, so
> > > a firewall will come into play when trying to connect.
> > > You dont have disable it, i should have been specifc i suppose, you must
> > > allow for the mysql port to be open. :)
> > > Whats for others to confirm, try it yourself and see if it works.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > "Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > Windows XP Firewall, or any other firewall for that matter must be off.
> > >> > Jason
> > >>
> > >> Can someone else confirm that this is correct?
> > >>
> > >> For one thing, when I use MySQL directly outside of a web page, it works.
> > >> The sample C program works.
> > >>
> > >> For another thing, I doubt very immensely that everyone using 
> > >> mysql_connect
> > >> does not use a firewall. Even if anyone else does, I will not. It would 
> > >> have
> > >> been quite unreasonable for the developers of PHP to develop software 
> > >> with
> > >> that requirement, but I doubt it was.
> > >>
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

Hey, i understand that, :)  however, a firewall may restrict _any_
access to a port, and if you are connected thru TCP/IP, then that port
may be restricted even if 'local'.  It is still a client server
relationship regardless where client and server reside.  

Of coarse, this may not be the issue he is having, but it is an issue i
have dealt with before, as retarded as you all seem to think it is.  

Jason

John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Jason Davidson wrote:
> > The webpage of coarse, is not local, regardless of where its hosted, so
> > a firewall will come into play when trying to connect.  
> > You dont have disable it, i should have been specifc i suppose, you must
> > allow for the mysql port to be open. :)
> > Whats for others to confirm, try it yourself and see if it works.
> > 
> > Jason
> 
> You understanding of how this works is a bit off Jason.  If you make a 
> call to one of my web sites from your machine via a browser, the _only_ 
> port I need to have open to the outside is 80 (or whatever port I have 
> my web server running on), even if I make 1000 calls to a local db, but 
> this has nothing to do with how the web server talks to MySQL.  What is 
> meant by local here, is that the MySQL db and web server are on the same 
> machine. A firewall comes into play when your web browser requests a 
> page from my web server, but does not come into play when that page has 
> to connect to a local db before sending content to you.  Your remote 
> machine never talks to my local MySQL db.
> 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

ok, well, i just posted a link for you to check out, it gives insight on
how mysql connects on different platforms, this will of use to you i
think, the last few bullets in the page i linked to are of some
importance to your error msg which says, cant connect to localhost, and
not, cant connect through socket...

again, link,,
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Can_not_connect_to_server.html

Jason

"Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> The firewall I am using is ZoneAlarm, the free version. I am nearly certain 
> that it does not allow specific ports to be opened, at least not for 
> specific addresses. So if this were a requirement, probably many others 
> would have that specific problem.
> 
> However if nothing else works, I will try to look into this further when I 
> have time. At the moment I must spend time on something else.
> 
> 
> "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > The webpage of coarse, is not local, regardless of where its hosted, so
> > a firewall will come into play when trying to connect.
> > You dont have disable it, i should have been specifc i suppose, you must
> > allow for the mysql port to be open. :)
> > Whats for others to confirm, try it yourself and see if it works.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > "Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Windows XP Firewall, or any other firewall for that matter must be off.
> >> > Jason
> >>
> >> Can someone else confirm that this is correct?
> >>
> >> For one thing, when I use MySQL directly outside of a web page, it works.
> >> The sample C program works.
> >>
> >> For another thing, I doubt very immensely that everyone using 
> >> mysql_connect
> >> does not use a firewall. Even if anyone else does, I will not. It would 
> >> have
> >> been quite unreasonable for the developers of PHP to develop software 
> >> with
> >> that requirement, but I doubt it was.
> >>
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

Possible i should have checked your configurations, however, to itterate
my point slightly, here is some documentation, you may find it usefull
regardless of how you connect to your db.


http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/Can_not_connect_to_server.html

Jason


"Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Also, a google on the error returns hundreds of results..
> >
> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Can%27t+connect+to+++MySQL+server+on+%27localhost%27+%2810061%29&btnG=Search&meta=
> 
> 
> One thing I did find in the results is that at least one person had problems 
> using (I think) phpMyAdmin. It supposedly uses mysql_connect. I am not aware 
> of installing phpMyAdmin in my system, so I will try installing and using 
> it. 
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-14 Thread John Nichel

Jason Davidson wrote:
The webpage of coarse, is not local, regardless of where its hosted, so
a firewall will come into play when trying to connect.  
You dont have disable it, i should have been specifc i suppose, you must
allow for the mysql port to be open. :)
Whats for others to confirm, try it yourself and see if it works.

Jason
You understanding of how this works is a bit off Jason.  If you make a 
call to one of my web sites from your machine via a browser, the _only_ 
port I need to have open to the outside is 80 (or whatever port I have 
my web server running on), even if I make 1000 calls to a local db, but 
this has nothing to do with how the web server talks to MySQL.  What is 
meant by local here, is that the MySQL db and web server are on the same 
machine. A firewall comes into play when your web browser requests a 
page from my web server, but does not come into play when that page has 
to connect to a local db before sending content to you.  Your remote 
machine never talks to my local MySQL db.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

The firewall I am using is ZoneAlarm, the free version. I am nearly certain 
that it does not allow specific ports to be opened, at least not for 
specific addresses. So if this were a requirement, probably many others 
would have that specific problem.

However if nothing else works, I will try to look into this further when I 
have time. At the moment I must spend time on something else.


"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The webpage of coarse, is not local, regardless of where its hosted, so
> a firewall will come into play when trying to connect.
> You dont have disable it, i should have been specifc i suppose, you must
> allow for the mysql port to be open. :)
> Whats for others to confirm, try it yourself and see if it works.
>
> Jason
>
> "Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Windows XP Firewall, or any other firewall for that matter must be off.
>> > Jason
>>
>> Can someone else confirm that this is correct?
>>
>> For one thing, when I use MySQL directly outside of a web page, it works.
>> The sample C program works.
>>
>> For another thing, I doubt very immensely that everyone using 
>> mysql_connect
>> does not use a firewall. Even if anyone else does, I will not. It would 
>> have
>> been quite unreasonable for the developers of PHP to develop software 
>> with
>> that requirement, but I doubt it was.
>>
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"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Also, a google on the error returns hundreds of results..
> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Can%27t+connect+to+++MySQL+server+on+%27localhost%27+%2810061%29&btnG=Search&meta=


One thing I did find in the results is that at least one person had problems 
using (I think) phpMyAdmin. It supposedly uses mysql_connect. I am not aware 
of installing phpMyAdmin in my system, so I will try installing and using 
it. 

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-14 Thread Chris Dowell

Sam
Your problem probably does stem from the extension not being installed.
You say you're using (IIRC) mySQL 4.1
This requires you to use the mysqli extension, not the mysql extension
As you're on windows, it's probably just a case of uncommenting the
extension=php_mysqli.dll
line in your php.ini, but I'm not sure as I don't have much experience
configuring PHP for windows.

Anyway - as far as I can tell from what you've said, that's likely to be
your problem - your timeout is occurring because the mysql extension
cannot connect, not because of any firewall issues.

From the manual entry on MySQL (http://www.php.net/mysql):
This MySQL extension doesn't support full functionality of MySQL
versions greater than 4.1.0. For that, use MySQLi.
If you then look at the entry for MySQLi (http://www.php.net/mysqli),
you'll see this:

The mysqli extension allows you to access the functionality provided
by MySQL 4.1 and above.
Then this page
(http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.windows.extensions.php) about
installing extension on windows should get you the rest of the way.

Cheers
Chris
Sam Hobbs wrote:
"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also, a google on the error returns hundreds of results..
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Can%27t+connect+to+++MySQL+server+on+%27localhost%27+%2810061%29&btnG=Search&meta=

Yes, I could have searched more first. And yes, that search does get an
abundance of results. However I see no solutions relevant to my problem.
Many of the solutions say things such as that the extension is not installed
or that MySQL is not installed.

Many (close to half I think) of the results are pages that have the error,
so the abundance of results indicates it is a prevalent problem that is
often not easily solved.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

The webpage of coarse, is not local, regardless of where its hosted, so
a firewall will come into play when trying to connect.  
You dont have disable it, i should have been specifc i suppose, you must
allow for the mysql port to be open. :)
Whats for others to confirm, try it yourself and see if it works.

Jason

"Sam Hobbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> "Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Windows XP Firewall, or any other firewall for that matter must be off.
> > Jason
> 
> Can someone else confirm that this is correct?
> 
> For one thing, when I use MySQL directly outside of a web page, it works. 
> The sample C program works.
> 
> For another thing, I doubt very immensely that everyone using mysql_connect 
> does not use a firewall. Even if anyone else does, I will not. It would have 
> been quite unreasonable for the developers of PHP to develop software with 
> that requirement, but I doubt it was.
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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

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> Also, a google on the error returns hundreds of results..
> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Can%27t+connect+to+++MySQL+server+on+%27localhost%27+%2810061%29&btnG=Search&meta=


Yes, I could have searched more first. And yes, that search does get an 
abundance of results. However I see no solutions relevant to my problem. 
Many of the solutions say things such as that the extension is not installed 
or that MySQL is not installed.

Many (close to half I think) of the results are pages that have the error, 
so the abundance of results indicates it is a prevalent problem that is 
often not easily solved.

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> I don't know anything about WindowsXP or it's 'firewall', but you _may_ 
> have to open the port for which you have MySQL running on.  I haven't 
> followed this thread, but if MySQL, and your php enabled webserver are on 
> the same box, then your firewall doesn't come into play.

Yes, this is all one system, so I sure thought that a firewall is not 
relevant. Thank you for saying so.

I don't (should not) have the Windows XP firewall turned on; I use 
ZoneAlarm.

This is extraneous relevance, but there is a possibility that the Windows XP 
firewall got turned on due to Windows XP SP2 (the latest big batch of fixes 
and upgrades for XP). I doubt it, though; I have checked and such. However 
to the extent that a firewall is not relevant, this is tnot relevant.

Something that might be relevant is the possibility of some other new 
security feature installed by the XP SP2. If so, then many others will be 
encountering it in the future; SP2 was released to the public sometime in 
the last couple of months, probably less than a month ago. Even so, I am 
surprised that I am the first to say anything if that is the problem. 
Probably if that was a problem, other systems that were working would have 
been broken by SP2 and people would know that SP2 is the cause. Using that 
logic, it is unlikely that SP2 is the problem.

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Re: [PHP] mysql_connect does not connect

2004-09-14 Thread John Nichel

Sam Hobbs wrote:
"Jason Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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Windows XP Firewall, or any other firewall for that matter must be off.
Jason

Can someone else confirm that this is correct?
It's not correct.
For one thing, when I use MySQL directly outside of a web page, it works. 
The sample C program works.

For another thing, I doubt very immensely that everyone using mysql_connect 
does not use a firewall. Even if anyone else does, I will not. It would have 
been quite unreasonable for the developers of PHP to develop software with 
that requirement, but I doubt it was.

I don't know anything about WindowsXP or it's 'firewall', but you _may_ 
have to open the port for which you have MySQL running on.  I haven't 
followed this thread, but if MySQL, and your php enabled webserver are 
on the same box, then your firewall doesn't come into play.

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