[RBW] Re: Packing it in!
Good stuff. The only change I'd make is to use pipe insulation to protect the frame tubes instead of bubble wrap if you are shipping a bike for a tour will need to re-ship it back afterwards. Pipe insulation can be re-used multiple times. I especially like the foam blocks to protect the fork and seat tube area. Another one jammed over the chainrings would be a good addition. dougP On Nov 8, 5:08 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Great new vid showing the Riv-tastic packing method for complete bikes on the site. Of course, I always shellack my boxes, and use hemp twine rather than packing tape, but that's just me. http://tinyurl.com/249sqd3 Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rail - Travelling by Bike and Train
In Southern California, the AMTRAK Surfliner allows 3 bikes per car, but no reservations. The bikes hang by one wheel from hooks. This can be inconvenient when loaded down as the area is near a door. If all the cars are full, they've allowed me to put my bike in the baggage car but this is at the discretion of the conductor. I've only been left at the platform once in several years. LA's Metrolink system and San Diego's Coaster allow roll ons. The area is meant to hold 2-3 bikes but we've managed to stuff up to 5 without complaint from the conductor. As long as you have some bungees it's EZ. My experience with the crews has always been positive; they've been helpful and good to work with. dougP On Nov 3, 1:01 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: This was my first (of hopefully many future) bike-train trip(s). Does anyone else have experiences travelling with your bike by train? How would you rate YOUR train service in terms of bike-friendliness? This summer I took the Amtrak Coast Starlight from San Jose to Klamath Falls for the start of a tour. I've taken the Coast Starlight several times, and although it's frequently late (not this time), it's a comfortable travel experience. The Coast Starlight requires that bikes be boxed, but the boxes are enormous. All I have to do is turn the handlebars and take off the pedals. I love the Coast Starlight. On my way home, I took the Amtrak Capitol Express from Sacramento to San Jose. Fantastic- roll on, roll off. And the Capitol Express goes many times per day. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The takeover is progressing
On Oct 31, 7:01 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Besides, most of the time I was riding with at least one person who had a computer. The computer is just such a distraction. I doubt I'll put one on the bike for next year's series. --mike I've had the experience of riding with a couple of people using computers, getting into a discussion about where we were because the 2 units disagreed. Mileposts solve that problem. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The takeover is progressing
A computer is useful ( but NOT essential) for keeping track of mileage when touring a new area. I've used them off'n'on (mostly off) since the venerable Cateye solar. The last one disappeared (fell off? got stolen?) on a tour of the upper Midwest last fall. I didn't particularly miss it haven't gotten around to replacing it. They have problems with water, stray signals, etc. Most of the time a map the mileposts tell me where I am. Understanding maps IS essential for when (not if, when) you wander off course have to reason your way back. On the subject of GPS, I attended an REI session and the instructor stressed the necessity of being competent with map compass, with the GPS being a secondary rather than primary navigational aid. On a recent tour in Kentucky, we had 3 riders show up 2-3 hours after the rest of us were settled in. Between them they had a GPS and a smart phone with GPS. And they went 18 miles in the exact wrong direction. dougP On Oct 31, 3:09 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: Set yourself free Patrick. It's all useless information that will do nothing to make the ride any better. On Oct 31, 1:52 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I should take mine off, too, since I am always in anguish because my averages are so low. But I keep them on because I live in hope -- the triumph of hope over experience as Dr Johnson said of second marriages. Ryan ... if yours are looking for a good home; at least I'd like to replace mine with some that don't have that effing pace arrow function. Patrick anguish is good for the soul Moore, who begs readers not to be excessively earnest. On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: I pulled mine off my bikes years ago when I arrived home one day looked at my total mieage, avg speed, ect. and asked myself what does it matter? and after a couple of beers I realized to me none of it did or does so the computers came off. Nothing has changed. I'm still fat and slow. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
The Platypus looks interesting, and that's like 1-1/2 big bottles. That 3rd bottle gets kinda grungy at times. Extra water can be handy for washing out scrapes too. dougP On Oct 29, 9:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I think Noel suggested bringing extra water along, and someone else (Mike?) said these work pretty good in a saddle bag:http://www.rei.com/product/797977 On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:01 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was pushing the bike thru some boggy looking stuff the pedals were turning. Of course, if he tossed it into the drink, got some mud in the FW, it may have started the day SS was now fixed! You're right; hard to know what the total course looked like from the film. Only the fun bits (water crossings, etc) would be interesting to film. David: What's a Platypus? My Atlantis has 3 cages I've never run out of water, even in Utah Arizona. We're riding in Orange County, not Africa or Australia. And the beauty is, if you conk out, it's all downhill (really, truly, no BS, cross my heart, etc.) back to the start. dougP On Oct 29, 8:47 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I just purchased a Platypus as word on the street is we'll need lots of water. As for the video, I noticed several derailer-less bikes. Whether they were fixed, SS or IGH, I don't know, but am guessing SS. You can try to guess what ratios they were running (if SS). And it depends on what kind of road sections they didn't show. I would guess they shot most of the film at the water crossings and barriers rather than the straight away roads. The guy doing the voiceover is pretty cool. Some 40 years after the fact, he remembers everyone's name, what they placed, what their day jobs were. Pretty cool guy! On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:14 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Thanks for the links. I rarely check BSNYC but these are pretty funny. Fortunately, our little November 13 adventure in Silverado Cyn won't require anything like this level of complexity. No stoves, warm- up equipment or special skin treatments needed. I'd better take a cruise out there to make sure the appropriate post-ride liquids are available. dougP On Oct 29, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Wouldn't a single 63 gear be quite competitive on a course like that shown in the video, with few fast flats and a lot of throwing, carrying and mud path grinding? I'm curious if a gear spread would be much of an advantage on such a course -- didn't see much shifting in the video (tho' of course they had far less to shift than we do today). Even a half mile paved section could be covered at 25 mph at 135 rpm in a 63 gear; would someone with a gear spread be able to make huge amounts of time over this on such a short flat? Not doubting, just asking. And I know nothing about CX except that it's done largely on dirt and that you need a huge kit for it. ( http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/10/news/what-to-bring-to-a-cycloc.. .) Courtesy of youknowwho: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2010/10/spending-power-whos-1.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS- Hide
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to wear out Schwalbe Marathons. On my Atlantis, are rear will go around 6k miles, in a mix of loaded touring, some off roading general riding. I've never pushed one to the point of seeing what's under the tread but when the center of the chevron pattern is getting faint I think it's earned its keep. A brand new pair of tires at the start of touring season is pretty good insurance against flats. BTW, Riv has stock again on the Marathon Supreme (my favorite). I just got a pair of 40s, looking ahead to next year. They seem to come'n'go, so I grabbed 'em while they had them. Expensive? Sure. Worth it? Absolutely. dougP On Oct 29, 2:15 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: In his posting, Grant says nobody ever wears out tread on tires anymore. OK, this is embarrassing, but *twice in the last two years* I have had flats resulting from wearing through the tread of a Panaracer Pasela. The thing is, it's hard to notice the tread on a rear tire if you have fenders. The second offense was on my recent tour in the Sierra. Heading down from Carson Pass, I heard the ominous hissing sound. Darn I'm unlucky, I thought as I began to unload the panniers to fix the flat. On seeing the tire, and the hard evidence of my neglect, I realized that in fact I was very lucky to get a flat that day, instead of the previous day on the climb when it was raining and there was no shoulder. A Highway Patrol officer stopped and inquired if I was OK. As I carry a spare tire when I'm touring, I assured him that all was under control. Later on that day, when I stopped at Hams Station for a late breakfast, the same Highway Patrol guy walked past my table saying, So I see you fixed your tire. I'm sure he would have given me a lift had I needed it. Nice guy. -- Anne On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've had a super slow week, and yesterday was the slowest day of all. Grant wrote this last night: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/303 Dave thought of this a little while ago: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/304 As Grant said, If you plan to buy something anyway and we have ithope to hear from you. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Thoughts
I thought Kelly's using a car analogy to reference his size was a lot more interesting than just saying I'm a really big guy. dougP On Oct 29, 5:59 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: OK this post has nothing to do with the question at hand- but can we stop all the talk about cars? There was a 'Jaguar' reference in another thread, here a 'Triumph' reference, somebody bought a new car in yet another thread, and now we have the Pontiac Aztec. I mean no disrespect nor to pick on anyone in particular but come on, this is a *bicycle* forum and we are all bicyclists here- we can draw analogies from something other than car culture, can't we? On Oct 29, 6:02 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: I completely agree I should be taller. 6ft 1.25inches would be perfect. And I should weigh about 195 after each of my four daily meals. I find that riding a too-small bike is just not as pleasant as riding a right-sized bike. And I think the RBW notions of right-sized work perfectly. I'll happily spend your money for you... go custom. Now, concerning the top tubes Strength-wise my pure speculation as a pure layman is that for the sizes where RBW is using double top tubes, there's substantial strength increase with the diaga-tube versus the 'llel-a-tube. And that increase is probably in the ballpark with the increase of a 'llel- a-tube over a single top tube frame. For the diaga-tube, look how small those triangles are! If it's just marketing, well... it's worked on me. For the 'llel-a-tube... well, adding extra material itself has to help. And it does make the main triangle smaller. But having that long hallway above suggests it's not the most strength-efficient design. That long rectangle allows a lot of leverage for deformation. Of course, the real question is: Do the strength-enhancement differences between one tube vs. 'llel-a-tube vs. diaga-tube matter in a given application: rider height (i.e. frame size), weight, and usage... 200#, 10mph flat paved roads? 275#, 20mph boulder-hopping in sink-hole land? Well, I've made my bet: I've bet that a well-loved 'llel-a-tube'd 60cm Hillborne will last indefinitely with a 260# load daily on not-great roads and decent trails, 5000 miles/year. The first four months have been perfect! I'll let you know in a few years how that's going. Aesthetics-wise... come on! Diaga-tubes just look wacky! :) Okay, they're not that bad. But they do not look great. They're visually confusing, even if you can eek out a symmetry knowing that they simply flipped the middle head-lug. Hate to say it, because it really isn't that bad but they put me in mind of the Pontiac Aztek. I'm just sayin'. I wouldn't let it stop me from buying one, of course. My appreciation of its strength, whether or not it made a practical difference for me, easily overwhelms the aesthetics. And it's a bike that says 'I don't care if *you* like it; I do! to those who note its looks. Non-violent assertions of independence have intrinsic value. And of course, if the diaga-tube'd bike fit but the 'llel-a-tube almost fit... I'd definitely go diaga. But I have literally had compliments yelled at me half-a-dozen times by men and women who see my 'llel-a-tubed Hillborne. I have also been stopped by people who simply wanted to tell me they liked my bike and to chat about it. Where did you get it? What's the second tube for? I love the paint! Comments came from non-clubby bike folks *and* from mainstream I-don't- live-for-bikes people. It is a stunningly attractive object. I wouldn't expect such mainstream ad hoc looks love for a Diaga-pillar or Bomba-diag. Oh, and if you do go custom... get a two-tubed Atlantis-y thing instead of a Hunqa-y thing... Based on my Hillborne experiences, having *level* 'llel-a-tubes will probably get women's phone numbers thrown at you. Smokin'! Ummperhaps you shouldn't mention that to your wife... :) Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean P. S. Yes, I have now planted my feet decidedly on the 'llel-a-tube side of the line. Let's not get all Butter Battle Book over it, please. But snarky barbs a la Wilde or Clemens or Churchill... I love those! On Oct 28, 12:47 pm, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Ok I never fit in a Triumph TR6 or a Spitfire, or well that is a really long list. Now I find the perfect bike my AHH... 67cm but some thought I should go double top tube. I didn't as my test ride on a 65 cm was very tight even out of the saddle on hard acceration. I figured I would get my double top tube on the Hunqapillar to replace my tour bike.. not to be.. not a big enough bike not to mention they went to the diagnal tube instead of horizontal.. not sure I like the look. What about you? Is the diagonal really needed? Was the horizontal that had been used not a good design or is the
[RBW] Re: Just Thoughts
When I hear Triumph I think of motorcycle and the Spitfire was arguably one of the most beautiful airplanes long before it was used to name a four wheeled, land based vehicle. dougP On Oct 29, 10:46 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: ...we can draw analogies from something other than car culture, can't we? This is America--what do you think? B-) (Car analogies are the Cadillac of analogies) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading from 9 to 8 speed
Harris has a good selection of 7 speeds for around $30. They mention they are black the silver finish is no longer available. Not sure if that has anything to do with quality. Lots of them have a 13 smallest cog the 14-32 is still available. 8 speed standards are also $30 but you'd have to buy 2 and put them together to get a decent cassette like a 13-30 or 13-32. Harris makes their custom cassettes by doing just that and charging $60. dougP On Oct 29, 3:56 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 06:12 -0700, Ginz wrote: I'd use 7sp cassettes if the selection were a bit better and the quality a bit higher. For now, I'm using 8sp... The selection of 7 spd cassettes is every bit as good today as it was when they first came out, except that pretty much the silver HG70s are gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: More on 7 speed...plus Bleriot finally finished
Jason: I was having some weird, unintended shifting issues a while back and someone on the list suggested looking at the RD pulleys. Specifically, if your rear derailer is intended for indexing, the upper pulley may be floating, i.e., have a lot of free play. My problem went away when I swapped the upper lower pulleys. This is Shimano cassette RD, with Suntour BarCon friction shifters. If your RD is fairly new, this is probably a long shot. dougP On Oct 29, 7:15 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi After reading with interest the previous post about going down in the number of sprockets from 9 to 8 to 7, I decided to post and share what I've been dealing with. First of all, I have a 8 speed Hillborne with Silver shifters built up by Riv that shifts perfectly...pretty much all the time. About 6 months ago, I purchased off this list a used Bleriot frameset and have slowly been building it up on a budget. I'm finally done but am having some shifting issues. By the way, this is the first bike I ever completely built up all the way from installing headset and BB to adjusting derailleurs, etc. So it was a great learning experience. It's built up as an old man townie 14 speed with the VO wide range compact double cranksetthe one that's the TA ripoff. I used a budget Shimano 7 speed cassette with the appropriate 4.5mm spacer for the current Deore rear hub. I am using some vintage Suntour handlebar thumbshifters that I purchased NOS about 2 years ago and used on another bike..so they have plenty of life left in them. The crankset is 46T / 30T and the 7 speed cassette is 13-28. Initially I planned on using the Index setting for the shifters as they are 7 speed, but I could never get accurate shits. I did speak to one mechanic who said Suntours of that era never shifted well and that's what brought them down. I don't know if I believe that. So, since I normally ride friction, I've been content to do that. but... The bike slips out of gear often enough to make me think there is some problem. Usually its in third largest cog on the cassette. and the second smallest. I do have to do a decent amount of trimming when in the large chainring which is what I'm in 85% of the time. The little 30T front chainring is reserved for climbing. Also one more thing...The VO crank and the recommended 118 BB didn't work initially on the Bleriot. The crankarms would hit the chainstays so I used another very long BB that I had. It's 127.5! I think the ideal BB spindle length for this combo would be 122-ish. I don't know if that is contributing to the shifting slipping, but it seems to inconsequential to me when I'm riding because that crankset is so low-Q to begin with. Any suggestions? I am thinking of maybe taking one more link out of the chain. Photos below: http://gallery.me.com/jasonaschwartz#100082 Thanks, Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
My only experience is with the Marathon Supreme. They are certainly flat resistant and long wearing. I find them quite comfortable at 50 to 60 psi in 35 mm size with no load. I'll bump up 10 psi for loaded touring. In over 2 years and at least 10k miles, I've had 2 flats: one a fine wire, probably from a car or truck tire, and the other a dreaded goat head in Northern Arizona last month. Nothing's perfect. dougP For a good compromise between rolling niceness and flat resistance, what is the best Marathon tire? I've had Racers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
Well, it looked pretty flat and the water crossings general abuse the bikes were put to would be hard on derailers. Looked like even the pastures were pretty tough going and the few road sections full of holes. Maybe a hub shifter would be appropriate. Of course, if you're gonna toss your bike in the drink, less is better. Definitely not recommended for a Brooks saddle. Despite our recent rains, So Cal doesn't have enough water to create conditions such as these. Don't worry about having to toss your bike across a river or encountering any deep mud. Rocks we got; mud is in short supply. dougP On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 2:25 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Second observation: gearing: this sort of course seems like a good candidate for a ss: say 60 to 65; I used to use 63 for allrounder dirt-cum-pavement. I don't see anyone twiddling and a sub 65 gear is low enough to get you through surprisingly deep muck (I used it on sand here in dry ABQ) yet high enough that you don't spin your eyes out on the rare flat-'n'-smooths. What do y'all think? for the die-hard cx ss'ers, any course is a good candidate for a single gear! 2:1 is a good starting point - I see lots of 39x18 or 34x17 out there (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), and that seems reasonable for most New England courses I race. CX is hard. SSCX is really hard - those who do it tend to rock. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Thoughts
It's hard to spell Rivendell without the e. So the answer is no. :) :) :) dougP On Oct 29, 5:18 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: ...and can contributors stop using the character e in the posts that discuss good things about our Rivendell contraptions? : ) ; ) : ) -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
On Oct 29, 4:53 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: How do they roll? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM I'm not sure how to answer that question. If you mean pedaling effort, they seem pretty similar to the other tires I've used on my Atlantis (Panaracer Pasela T-Serve). My flat land riding gears are in the 60s 70s; I can't push +80 without a tailwind or gravity assist. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
Patrick: Thanks for the links. I rarely check BSNYC but these are pretty funny. Fortunately, our little November 13 adventure in Silverado Cyn won't require anything like this level of complexity. No stoves, warm- up equipment or special skin treatments needed. I'd better take a cruise out there to make sure the appropriate post-ride liquids are available. dougP On Oct 29, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Wouldn't a single 63 gear be quite competitive on a course like that shown in the video, with few fast flats and a lot of throwing, carrying and mud path grinding? I'm curious if a gear spread would be much of an advantage on such a course -- didn't see much shifting in the video (tho' of course they had far less to shift than we do today). Even a half mile paved section could be covered at 25 mph at 135 rpm in a 63 gear; would someone with a gear spread be able to make huge amounts of time over this on such a short flat? Not doubting, just asking. And I know nothing about CX except that it's done largely on dirt and that you need a huge kit for it. (http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/10/news/what-to-bring-to-a-cycloc...) Courtesy of youknowwho:http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2010/10/spending-power-whos-1.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1950 rough stuff race
There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was pushing the bike thru some boggy looking stuff the pedals were turning. Of course, if he tossed it into the drink, got some mud in the FW, it may have started the day SS was now fixed! You're right; hard to know what the total course looked like from the film. Only the fun bits (water crossings, etc) would be interesting to film. David: What's a Platypus? My Atlantis has 3 cages I've never run out of water, even in Utah Arizona. We're riding in Orange County, not Africa or Australia. And the beauty is, if you conk out, it's all downhill (really, truly, no BS, cross my heart, etc.) back to the start. dougP On Oct 29, 8:47 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I just purchased a Platypus as word on the street is we'll need lots of water. As for the video, I noticed several derailer-less bikes. Whether they were fixed, SS or IGH, I don't know, but am guessing SS. You can try to guess what ratios they were running (if SS). And it depends on what kind of road sections they didn't show. I would guess they shot most of the film at the water crossings and barriers rather than the straight away roads. The guy doing the voiceover is pretty cool. Some 40 years after the fact, he remembers everyone's name, what they placed, what their day jobs were. Pretty cool guy! On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:14 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Thanks for the links. I rarely check BSNYC but these are pretty funny. Fortunately, our little November 13 adventure in Silverado Cyn won't require anything like this level of complexity. No stoves, warm- up equipment or special skin treatments needed. I'd better take a cruise out there to make sure the appropriate post-ride liquids are available. dougP On Oct 29, 7:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields), Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Wouldn't a single 63 gear be quite competitive on a course like that shown in the video, with few fast flats and a lot of throwing, carrying and mud path grinding? I'm curious if a gear spread would be much of an advantage on such a course -- didn't see much shifting in the video (tho' of course they had far less to shift than we do today). Even a half mile paved section could be covered at 25 mph at 135 rpm in a 63 gear; would someone with a gear spread be able to make huge amounts of time over this on such a short flat? Not doubting, just asking. And I know nothing about CX except that it's done largely on dirt and that you need a huge kit for it. (http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/10/news/what-to-bring-to-a-cycloc.. .) Courtesy of youknowwho: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2010/10/spending-power-whos-1.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Hupe
I bought David's just tool dipped it. It's thick enough the loops don't quite go all the way around the stays but she'll do for a saddlebag support. For a really big saddlebag or one that's heavily loaded, a bolt on rack is better. dougP On Oct 28, 10:53 am, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I had rim tape strips between it and the frame. While the coating wore through, the frame wasn't harmed. Eventually sold it as I wasn't using it and didn't want to have to keep checking the frame if I was. On Oct 27, 6:48 pm, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: I wrap mine in tape of various kinds. Check it often. I think a nice leather would work, or hemp twine shellacking, heh heh heh... On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: That sounds like it might help... but maybe not, by itself. Some of the problems of mounting have to do with (1) the diameter of the curves which snug around the stays; no matter how much coating there is, you have to really careful to avoid the rigid metal pushing right through it to contact the frame (the Hupe don't flex much there) and (2) the metal within the coating can have a rough surface, making (1) more likely and worse than it might be were the surface smooth. Bending the Hupe's curves to better match your stays' size where they make contact may help, as might de-burring or generally smoothing the Hupe's metal surface (after which it'd probably be a good idea to re-coat it as you suggest). All speculation, but trying all of this sounds like fun and is on my list of Things I'd Love To Do But May Never Get Around To. After all, I'm already in my late 40s. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 27, 5:50 pm, jlvota jlv...@ilstu.edu wrote: You guys probably know this already, but they sell that rubber coating stuff at the hardware store to re-coat the handles of hand tools. It would probably be perfect to dip the hoop in and give it a second life (and possibly double up on in the problematic spots). On Oct 27, 3:30 pm, Kris Kenow krisallenke...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Adam I have one I just taken off my Trek, The rubber coating is worn off the hooks and has not been too nice to my seat stays so I would be awillin to part. Trade? SURE... Kris Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:39:50 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Silver Hupe From: oceanm...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I know they've been controversial on this list and wonder if anyone has one they aren't using that they'd like to pass on. I've got some items to consider trading if you do. Cheers, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: High Praise
You prefer a seven year old bicycle to a brand new car! I love it! So many people don't get that riding my bike to the grocery store makes even a mundane chore an adventure (OK, a possilbe adventure) and is fun, versus the hassle of dealing with the car. dougP On Oct 28, 5:16 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I was lucky enough to get a new car last Sunday. It's really nice; the whole new car experience, everything working. Comfortable. Fun to drive. I'm honestly excited about it. And on Monday morning to come to work, I still couldn't wait to get on my 2003 Rambouillet and ride that. That's how great the Rambouillet is. And it's been like that every day this week. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Morning commute on my new Atlantis
Great looking bike. The medium Sackville looks as large a bag as I'd ever need. Hey, if you gotta commute, may as well do it in style comfort. Thanks for pix. We'll look forward to more from the Angel Island trip. dougP On Oct 27, 12:37 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the first set of photos from my new Atlantis that replaced the Bombadil.http://tinyurl.com/25wez6o I've been commuting with it for the last couple of months, but have also been traveling a lot for business so I haven't really had a chance to take good photos. This morning I decided I would just capture it using my iPhone 4 and see how they'd come out. This is a 61cm Atlantis frame made by Waterford with custom full set fork braze-ons like the Bombadil had + a custom rear seat stay bridge fender braze-on to eliminate the need to use a clamp. While I loved the Bombadil and am very pleased that it has now found a new loving home, the 61 was too long/too tall for me and with the investment in 700c wheels that I had between the Bombadil and the Homer, I just didn't want to go to the 56 Bombadil that ran 650b tires. The Homer fit me very well and since the Atlantis has the exact same geometry, I chose to go with one instead of waiting for a Hunqa. I'm very happy with it. It's snappier than the Bombadil was, it's extremely comfortable with its 50mm tires and I love its magical color. Will be doing an S24O in Angel Island again on the Saturday of Thanksgiving so I'll be testing it fully loaded and see how it compares to the Bombadil S24O I did in July to Angel Island. The Atlantis has, since Monday evening, a SON 28/Edelux front light and a rear Spanniga Plateo tail light that is battery operated but has a Senso feature and that based on light conditions turns it on/off automatically. Stay thirsty, my friends! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Da Vinci cable spillter question
Several list members have posted regarding using cable splitters to allow quick changes of handlebar. I like to remove the handlebars from my Atlantis for shipping, so that idea has a lot of appeal. So I'm staring at the Atlantis trying to figure out where I would split the shift cables. It's set up with drop bars, bar end shifters and aero brake levers; pretty standard stuff. The brakes are obvious. But with cable housing all the way from bar end shift lever to the DT cable stops, where does one split those? Thanks in advance for your experiences on this. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Da Vinci cable spillter question
Seth: Thanks for that! I knew I was going to feel dumb when I Iearned the answer. In my case (for shipping) all I need to do is unbolt the cable stops from their mounts. Duh! dougP On Oct 25, 1:24 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 4:21 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Several list members have posted regarding using cable splitters to allow quick changes of handlebar. I like to remove the handlebars from my Atlantis for shipping, so that idea has a lot of appeal. So I'm staring at the Atlantis trying to figure out where I would split the shift cables. It's set up with drop bars, bar end shifters and aero brake levers; pretty standard stuff. The brakes are obvious. But with cable housing all the way from bar end shift lever to the DT cable stops, where does one split those? Thanks in advance for your experiences on this. split them below the downtube cable stops. I split mine about 6 or so up from the bottom bracket. You can see them just above and to the right of the crank in this picturehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/4316203300/ so, that means you have to get a second set of downtube cable stops.. but that's how it works. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry
Nice pix. When the Bomba is complete, don't forget to do it justice as well. Sigh, a problem with this list is how it feeds the imagination. I have a mid-80s Fisher MTB that fulfils the same mission as your Stumpy (and I feel more comfortable leaving it locked up than my Atlantis). Seeing the fenders on the Stumpy made me think how neat the Fisher would look with fenders color matched to the bike. dougP On Oct 24, 8:45 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Brilliant. Love the concept. Now I have a new project in mind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
On my Atlantis I had a problem with the cables coming out of the guides. Not huge, only happened every now again. But it's a pain to fuss with when the bike is loaded down with 4 panniers. When I finally had to replace the BB (6 years, I think) I drilled tapped a hole in the BB shell and added a plastic cable guide. The paint was fine. FWIW I may be the only person to ever have the cable wandering problem. dougP On Oct 23, 3:27 pm, kevin lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Problem solved (I think). The local bike shop gave me six inches of thin (about 1/4 diameter) plastic tubing that they use to protect frames from derailleur and brake cables. They fit into the BB guides and seem to be holding their place under the tension of the cable. Kevin On Oct 23, 2:29 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: I wish they'd just build them with a threaded hole for...or actually install the under BB plastic cable guide. I am not fond of the steel tunnel approach. On Oct 23, 2:21 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-10-23 at 11:31 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote: Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the bottom bracket yes- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Derailleur Cabling
The untapped hole is a drain hole; don't plug it. I never took the BB out for 6 years there was not crud up there when I did. I drilled a separate hole near the drain for the cable guide bracket. dougP On Oct 23, 4:28 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: I've been wondering the same thing, in preparation of building up a Romulus. good to know i can just use the metal guides, but there is an (untapped) hole for tapping and mounting a pastic guide, i assume. i'm concerned about getting crud up in the bb shell if i don't plug it.. or maybe this isn't really an issue? best, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide part two
All this talk about longevity me thinking: How long does a rear derailer last? Since the RD gets used the most, is hanging in the breeze, and has constantly moving parts, it should wear out sooner than anything else (excepting tires brakes). The RD on my Atlantis is the original from early '03. The logos are long gone but the invoice lists it as Deore Silver and Riv charged $45 for it as part of the build, if that gives a clue to the grade. It's gone at least 30k miles, mostly in a dry climate. It has been drenched and gotten filthy many times though. Maintenance consists of blowing it out with Tri-Flow once or twice a year. It still seems to work fine. Bike is 8 speed friction. Do you guys in wet or dusty climates find derailers wear to the point of poor shifting? I realize it's going to be a function of climate, cleanliness, maintenance and mileage, but I can't recall ever actually wearing one out. And I've worn out plenty of cogs, chains, and chainrings, so it's not any maintenance magic on my part. Thoughts? dougP On Oct 20, 12:28 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Grant just posted a follow up post with the installation of the aforementioned Microshift groupo on his Hilsen. They look nice from afar... the key question as Jim mentions... will they still work good a couple of years down the road/trail. Like everything testing and use will tell us more about their potential longevity.http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/298 ~Mike~ On Oct 20, 11:14 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 10/19/10 8:26 AM, Peter Pesce at petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I can't say I understand the need for this either? I must be missing something - what does this stuff do that low end Shimano wouldn't do? I can understand Riv selling low-end thumb shifters, because there's a big leap from $16 to $150+ for DuraAce/Thumbies. But a low end Alivio or something rear derailer can be had for under 30 bucks. The issue with modern derailleurs is not that they don't work well out of the box. They all shift well. The better stuff tends to shift well _longer_. The Alivio works ok, but if Microshift brings out an inexpensive derailleur which has been designed to withstand more frequent, regular use, then the comparison is not entirely appropriate. Forging rather than stamping, quality of bushings, tolerance of manufacture are what differentiate Alivio from DuraAce. Everytime you shift, there's a pretty good torque on the cage and body. Cheaper bits wear faster. So, if the inexpensive derailleur which had the durability of an upper end model would be a good thing. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - Send them here -http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I threw one leg over my battle-scarred all-terrain stump-jumper and rode several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never knew, and went in. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide
We may be seeing the effect of currency fluctuations. Grant has commented that the steady upward trend of the yen is a headache. Speculation on my part but perhaps a decent quality Shimano RD for $30 won't be around much longer? Or Riv feels the need for 2 sources of supply? As to quality, with modern manufacturing technology I wouldn't be concerned about the derailers. Recall Grant's comment about the least necessary part on your bike - the FD. dougP On Oct 19, 8:26 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I can't say I understand the need for this either? I must be missing something - what does this stuff do that low end Shimano wouldn't do? I can understand Riv selling low-end thumb shifters, because there's a big leap from $16 to $150+ for DuraAce/Thumbies. But a low end Alivio or something rear derailer can be had for under 30 bucks. On Oct 18, 11:54 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Just read grant's new post about deraillers:http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/297 And I did a little looking into the microshift deraillers. And I found this:http://www.microshift.biz/pviewitem1.asp?sn=791area=51cat=184# Now it's only funny to me or to others who might work in my field - but I used to help build the centos OS and the idea of having a centos derailler by microshift amuses me to no end. other than that it's pretty good looking. anyone actually used any of these yet? -sv- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide
Beth: Thank you for sharing your info from within the bike biz. It has the cold ring of reality. Since my now 7+ year old Atlantis is my only 8 speed bike, and everything else around here is 7, I'm stocking up on chains. I've been collecting 7 8 speed cassettes off the close out table for quite a while but a few more won't hurt. dougP On Oct 19, 12:04 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: Here's a little more reality for you: I spoke with a very knowledgable wholsale rep yesterday who told me that we should expect to see all things 8-speed fade away in perhaps two to three years. This is because of Mountain 10 drivetrains (10 x 2 or 10 x 3), which use basically the same components that road 10-speed systems do and are therefore easier to mass-produce for big companies like SRAM and Shimano. He had spoken with folks at both Shimano and SRAM during the Interbike show and apparently they hinted at this reality coming down the line. Said rep was told that continued support for 8-speed drivetrains was not as profitable because it required companies to produce two different kinds of chaincs and cassette cogs. Basing both road and mountain drivetrains on a 10-speed system, with its narrower chains and thinner cassette cogs, would simplify production quicky. (It would also mean more sales, since these parts wear out sooner; though the SRAM technician refused to comment on that and guy from Shimano would only hint at it in the vaguest language.) Based on discussions I had two years ago when Shimano stopped making 5- speed freewheels and the only remaining choices were Sunrace (ick) and IRD (decent, but expensive), I would say that this estimate bears more than a shred of truth. If you like 8-speed, this would be a good time to look for sales. Don't forget that you'll want to stock up on 8-speed compatible chains, too, since these will eventually fade like cassettes (though not quite as quickly). As for me, I've got a sizable stash of refurbished five- and six-speed freewheels that will fit on my Phil hubs... Beth I'm not paranoid, just pragmatic Hamon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike Life
I too have actual, serious friends who have carbon bikes. They tease me about making sure I position my Atlantis properly at traffic lights to activate the sensor and I get back at them whenever they need help carrying a jacket. We're a mature group it's all good fun. One of the many beauties of cycling is the variety of characters and equipment one encounters. They're all just people on bikes, having a ride. dougP On Oct 18, 3:47 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:32 AM, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote: Whoa, what's up with the carbon bashing. Have you ever consider that most carbon bikes don't have room for fenders and that is probably the reason your friends don't ride in the rain! I don't know why the scare quotes around the word friends. These people are my actual friends, not my quote-unquote friends. And nothing forced them to buy bikes that don't have room for fenders. They chose to buy those bikes, when other bikes were also available. They chose to value lightness over everything else, which gives them the benefit of being able to climb faster but has the disadvantage that they can't mount 28 mm tires and fenders. So on a bright sunny day, on good pavement, they have fast bikes, but on even slightly bumpy pavement they get a rough ride on those rock-hard 23mm tires, and if the roads are a bit wet, the rock-hard 23mm tires might be slippery. We have a lot of sunny days and a lot of smooth pavement, so riders who are willing to only ride in those conditions can nevertheless get a good bit of riding in. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: bag for mustache bars?
Depends on how much stuff you want to carry. I used a bar tube with M- bars. It was a day rider, casual bike so the bar tube held what little I needed for short rides. If you go with the stuff sack on a rack idea, consider a cargo net to hold it down. I love the way they can handle a wide variety of loads, shapes, weights, etc. Really handy. dougP On Oct 17, 4:04 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for a front-bag to hang beneath m-bars on a Romulus. M-bars and bags don't seem to go together at all well. That being said, I'd like to try a bar-bag instead of a front rack on this bike but I've got a 12-cm stem on, so it's a hair more room than usual. Any suggestions?? Thanks, Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike Life
Got a photo? That's too many colors flashing thru my head. But what do I know? I think dark blue h-bar tape looks fine on my Atlantis (stock color), along with a tan Acorn front bag ancient Hobo (some version of green) for a saddlebag. dougP On Oct 17, 1:15 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Stuart Fletcher stuart.fletc...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity (and because I want to get one someday) which size Saddlesack did you get? Based on your grocery list I'm assuming it's either a medium or a large. Large. I love it. There's only one problem, and perhaps some of you can advise me on a solution: This Atlantis is the stock color, pea sage green. I thought it would look good with the olive drab of the Saddlesack, but, not so much, though the olive is certainly better than the bright red grocery panniers I was using. My saddle is black; nothing will convince me to go to a Brooks saddle no matter how beautiful it would look with the bag. But I'm thinking maybe if I replace my hoods and tape, presently black, with tan that might improve the appearance. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tire wear/wars (50% OT)
Tires have a shelf life. I wouldn't get too many years ahead of myself. My guess is any discount would be on identical tires or perhaps a mix of sizes of the same tire. On the Riv rides I've been on, everyone has their own idea of the best tire, with little agreement. Now, if we could just get 100 people to agree to all buy Schwalbe Marathon Supremes, we'dprobably clean out all the stock in North America. dougP On Oct 14, 8:41 pm, benzzoy benz...@yahoo.com wrote: On Oct 14, 7:22 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe another interesting question: How many people buying a particular type of tire does it take before you hit the bulk-discount price? At least for the Grand Bois, Bicycle Quarterly is offering about 10% off if one purchases 4 or more. Or perhaps you're thinking of a discount greater than that, like a group buy where a group purchases directly from the manufacturer. The logistics of coordinating such an event is fairly substantial and may outweigh the savings such an event provides. With tires, the magic number may be around 100. I'm basing this on a remark from Jan Heine when Kirk Pacenti was introducing the Pari-Moto. Jan postulated that Kirk would be close to break-even (for mold cost) at 200 tires so 100 seems like a good number* if the tire manufacturer amortizes the startup costs over thousands of tires. If the number of participants is decreased to reduce the logistical requirement, then each participant may need to buy a whole lot...certainly more than what normal people would need, especially if the tires concerned are high-mileage kinds. Even a moderate- mileage bike nut like myself would think long and hard at 20 units of high-performance/low-mileage Grand Bois Cypress 700x30, but I may consider it if it's 10 units (hint!). Cheers, B * This is, of course, a WAG. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why I like you guys part deuce
Along with all the positive reasons why we all enjoy this group, think
about Who else would have us?. Oh, no, it's the steel / wool /
fenders / twine bar wrap / etc. bunch! Pedal for your life!
Seriously, this is a fun group with enough outside the box ideas to
keep me interested.
dougP
On Oct 13, 9:30 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
I love the tone of this group. Here are some reasons I think it's
fairly civil.
Historical traditions. The silverbacks are graduates of the iBOB list,
which used to be relatively polite. Haven't read it in a while, but
when I did, it was the calm end of the pool. The original Riv-backed
list was shut down when Grant deemed the discourse too uncivil, and I
think Jim shut this list down for a couple weeks one February when
everyone got itchy and mean.
We're relatively homogeneous. We get along because we share the same
bike values. Those with dissenting opinions don't air them.
We self-censor. I do. I'm a born smartass, but I try to wait out a
thread. If I just can't stand it, I try to be funny but not mean. Both
those things mean different things to different people, so I send a
lot of posts to the trash, instead of the list.
Jim keeps the list very focused.
So yeah, I don't think we're open minded, just polite. Which is more
than fine.
Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
On Oct 12, 1:13 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
Just wanted to thank everyone here for their non-judgmental and open
minded views.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I've seen Riv-oriented people get fighting mad over the phrase carbon
fiber. We all have our prejudices.
On Oct 12, 1:39 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
I was looking at a few other online forums this weekend and noticed
(again) what a civilized, positive atmosphere exist on this site.
Just wanted to thank everyone here for their non-judgmental and open
minded views.
~Mike~
On Oct 11, 5:43 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
Nice story. Totally dislike that drop mentality. Although as I'm
usually the one dropped, it is a bias. And it's not just roadies.
Was given some serious grief Saturday on some mountain bike trails by
a club ride.
Was a great time last year riding with you folks. Definitely a
highlight of my trip out to San Diego.
Oh, Ride the Divide is well worth seeing. Not just getting the DVD,
but it is fun watching the whole shebang on the big screen. ('Fession
- pre ordered the DVD and saw it at a local screening).
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Oct 11, 7:19 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Everything I know about riding bikes I learned from Pee Wee Herman.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote:
Great story David. That's exactly why I ride a Riv. the way I do
(slow-
to-moderate-except-on-good-days-when-the-mood-strikes-but-never-at-the-
expense-of-my-riding-buddies). Be nice and ride yer bike. Pretty
simple. Thanks again.
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[RBW] Re: Headlands Ride Report 10.11.10
Lee: Nice photos. Motivates me to head for the trail tomorrow. To your question regarding preference, it's a mood thing. Like you, sometimes I like to push it a bit on the pavement, and other times it's relaxing to just dawdle around in the dirt (of course, for me that usually involves plenty of pushing too!). There are several rides I do where I use a fire trail or similar to connect together a couple of paved areas. These short cuts usually take a lot more time effort than staying on the pavement would. The nice thing about a Rivendell is they are happy to do it all. dougP On Oct 13, 9:50 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Morning, all. I was able to wheel out the Quickbeam for a weekend ride for the first time in more than a month. It took me out into the Marin Headlands to explore the wonderful set of trails inscribed there along the southern three ridges. Despite being underpowered and therefore, a bit undergeared, it was a wonderful afternoon. Trails, hills, beaches, and an ocean, with only minimal interruptions by three other cyclists, two runners, and a handful of hikers--all just 10 miles or so from my urban-crushed doorstep. I seem to oscillate between these types of out-back trail rides and longer road rides out into the country. Sometimes it's fun to get into a steady cadence on the road, feel a little speed, and enjoy the breeze in your face. Other times, I just want nothing to do with other bipeds (no offense of course) and head off to the nearest trailhead. Do you all have a preference for one type of riding over another? In any event, I'm just glad I have a bike that lets me do both so enjoyably. Here's the visuals: http://tinyurl.com/2dc6r76 Take care, Lee SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Headlands Ride Report 10.11.10
I run Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis, 700 x 35. My un- loaded tire pressure is 50 front 60 rear (kinda sorta based on Jan's tire pressure chart). Never thought to lower it off road. I'm moving up a size next time I need tires. I try to keep steady pedal pressure, not pound or otherwise change it too quickly. Sometimes I just 'stall out on hills, sometimes spin. That's telling me it's time for a walk. I have lots of gears use 'em all, especially the little ones. Can't imagine doing this on a single speed - you must have very good technique. Andy M does better on the dirt than I. He uses I believe the Schwalbe XR around 2 wide on 26 wheels. These have a more agressive tread pattern the Supreme but don't seem any noisier on the road. dougP On Oct 13, 11:08 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anne. I'm no great bike handler, but here is what I ride. The Quickbeam is a 650B conversion. So far, I've used the 32mm Nifty Swiftys with the lightly-treaded checkerboard pattern. I had trouble with them in terms of traction on some steep upward pitches. I had them at about 50-55 last time I rode these trails. I've used Col de la Vies on a few different bikes in the Headlands and these worked very well. They measure out to about 35.555etc. mm and have good, deep oval-shaped treads. Normally, I run them at 60-65 psi on my commute. On the trails, I set them to about 55-60. Less would probably help both with traction and to provide float on the deeper, sandy stuff. Speaking of deep, sandy stuff, that is the main issue I have with trail riding. On climbs, I can spin out when I hit such a patch, particularly on the one speed. So, I try to pick a decent line and hunker my butt down on the back edge of the saddle when cranking through it, as recommended to me on my last mixed terrain ride report. On descents, I get a little leary of the slip-and-slide action as I pass through the wash. So again, I try to pick a decent line, dampen my speed some before hitting the patch. Then, let loose the brakes and try to keep my line as straight as possible as I forge my way through the deep stuff. Overall, though, I'm a pretty slow descender on trails. Again, I'm a newb to this type of riding and I'm sure there are a lot of smart techniques out there that folks have developed, if anyone wants to chime in here. My Col de la Vies have given out, so I'm thinking about the new Soma 650B tires, which are ~38mm equivalents of your Paselas (at least superficially). I'm interested in seeing how they do on those trails. Plus, they are a little bit lighter than the Col de la Vies. I know, I know, it's all about the engine. But this engine welcomes any help it can get! Best, Lee On Oct 13, 9:55 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds fantastic. What tires do you find necessary for adventures like that? What tires would you recommend for someone who's not a great bike handler? What pressure did you run your tires at? I like riding my Atlantis (32 mm Panaracer Paselas) on dirt fire roads, but lately, at the end of the summer, I've been chickening out and walking more, as the fire roads in the South Bay (and presumably in Marin as well) are covered with gravel and dust. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Morning, all. I was able to wheel out the Quickbeam for a weekend ride for the first time in more than a month. It took me out into the Marin Headlands to explore the wonderful set of trails inscribed there along the southern three ridges. Despite being underpowered and therefore, a bit undergeared, it was a wonderful afternoon. Trails, hills, beaches, and an ocean, with only minimal interruptions by three other cyclists, two runners, and a handful of hikers--all just 10 miles or so from my urban-crushed doorstep. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tires for Gravel Roads
Bob: It's good you've still got your sense of humor and can an account of your musings as you tumbled. What you describe sounds like river run rock. It's all nice smooth similar sized from thousands of years of tumbling down a water course. Negotiating this stuff is like walking or riding on ball bearings. Tough at best. I doubt you'd find any tire what would perform well on this stuff. True knobbies (the big ol' honkin' square blocks) need something to grab onto, like sand, soft soil, etc. An inverted tread like the Conti TC is a wonderful all around tire. One of my touring buds rides those precisely so he can just take off the pavement without a thought and only has to check tire pressure once in a while. Man-made gravel as used for road surfacing is crushed to size so is fairly sharp and tends to lock together a bit. While it's a bit mushy and probably abrasive on tires, it's easier to ride than the stuff you describe. I'd stick with what you've got, accept that river run is a lousy surface and avoid if possible or walk thru if not. dougP On Oct 13, 5:04 pm, Bob Cooper robertcoo...@frontiernet.net wrote: Advice sought about riding in the gravel: Conventional wisdom has it that, if the road surface is harder than the tire, then knobbies are not an advantage, and a slick tire offers more grip. Today I fell on a steep ascent -- about 20+ percent -- on a road covered in creek gravel the size of robins’ eggs. (I know: I didn’t pick my line sagely.) As I spun though the air, looking up at the tops of the trees and at my feet, which were up there with the trees, I had a moment to reflect on the conventional wisdom. I know that a lot of subscribers to this list do a lot of mixed terrain riding, and I was wondering, if anyone had an opinion about the use of knobbies versus slicks -- or inverted-tread tires -- for this application. Continental Town and Country, 2.1 inch, 25 psi. (What I had today.) Versus, for example, Specialized Ground Control II, 1.95 inch, same psi. (What I have in the parts bin.) Any advice appreciated, Bob “Love Those Lonely, Gravel Roads” Cooper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why I like you guys
I think it's because mainstreem roadies don't know what to make of a typical Rivendell or its rider. And remember, the guys'n'gals on the latest'n'greatest are always a bit snobbish, regardless of the activity (cell phones? bikes? dive equipment?). We don't fit neatly into the pecking order. At least out on the dirt, the MTBers ask are you lost? or what're you doing here?. David, nice story. They look like they're having fun on the dirt. It's always a giggle to show someone a favorite route and have them appreciate it. dougP On Oct 11, 1:46 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Cool story. It's always nice to be shunned. Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com On Oct 10, 7:13 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Thank you for taking the time on that, David. Every time I've ridden with people on this list has been one of the best rides I've been on, and it's so cool that from here to Seattle, there are plenty of nice opportunities to get together. The Diablo garage sale ride was excellent. Big crowd of Riv Riders in Walnut Creek that might have been bigger than the crowd in San Diego last April. -Original Message- From: cyclotourist Sent: Oct 10, 2010 5:27 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Why I like you guys Yesterday I'm out for a few hours of riding, and I see a couple cyclists ahead of me. As I'm pretty slow, I'm amazed that I'm catching up to them. Watch a bit more and I figure out they're looking at a que sheet and I'm guessing lost. I catch up to them, and find out they're part of a quarterly three clubs ride involving three (!) of the local bike clubs. They're basically getting to the right area, but tell me of the crazy route they had to follow to get to this point. Lost several times, and receiving conflicting info from different pedestrians and drivers. Their sheet is all messed up with some directions crossed out and new ones penciled in. They tell me their club buddies left them in the dust 20 minutes after the start of the 50 mile ride. Nice...I'm going in the same general direction and offer to show them where they need to go. They're a little slow, but not that bad. No reason to get dropped! Plus it was sold as a recreational ride, and NOT a training ride. Along the way I invite them to follow me on my intended route as it's 15 miles of beautiful back roads just a bit further up the road. They tentatively agree to that. We make it to the water stop, and run into a chunk of the other riders. Everybody's kinda' standing around and not generally enthusiastic. Not the friendliest lot. And as for me, they were doing their best to pretend I didn't exist. I didn't need them to bend over thanking me for helping their club-mates out, but a little Hi, nice bike, how old is that thing anyway, you really ride a saddle like that? wouldn't have been too tough on them. I go and get water from the fountain (wouldn't think of using their precious bottled h20) and come back to hear them telling these two ladies how awful my route is, full of homicidal traffic and multiple construction sites. I look at the two, shrug my shoulders and tell them it's a great ride. Low and behold, my charges trust me once more and keep on going up the hill in order to drop into the valley. We do this while watching the rest of the riders turn back and return the way they came. We end up having what one of them described as One of the best rides I've ever been on. Success! We hit the canyon and ride for at least four miles at 25-30 MPH without pedaling once! Crazy cool tailwind that pushed us the whole way. Minimal cars, some construction and plates on the road, but no biggie. Lots of cows and horses to look at, a train goes by. Just neat rural riding! I guide them to their meet up spot at a coffee shop just as I get a flat. I'm out front fixing it, while their club mates again do their best to ignore me. In the meantime two of the baristas come out and ogle my bike, practically drooling on the saddle. And that my friends, is why I enjoy our SoCal Riv rides so much. The contrast is just amazing. Lots of different speeds, but everyone seems to end up having a great time. Thanks to everyone that's been able to meet up for one, and I hope you can make ourupcoming Fall/Winter series.:-) map here:http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Redlands-to-Wildwood-and-San-Tim... -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.- RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,
[RBW] Re: Trip to One Speed, Sacramento - a set on Flickr
That's the coolest biike rack; nice application of re-cycling. dougP On Oct 10, 2:45 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Not much Riv content, although I *did* ride lugged steel on a Brooks saddle ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625135772256/with... --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell in Twin Cities Metrotransit brochure?
Anyone in the Twin Cities area recognize what looks like a Rivendell in Metrotransit's Bicycling as Transportation brochure? A friend sent me a copy for the informational content, which is excellent by the way. One of the bikes used in many of the photos appears to be a Rivendell, although all the graphics have been removed. At first glance I thought it might be an Atlantis but the color is a bit off and the crown detail is different from mine. Looks like a typical Riv build thoough: Nitto rear rack, nice saddlebag, Brooks, bar ends, maybe twine or leather bar covering, stack of headset spacers, etc. They couldn't have chosen a bettter model for their photos. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Back to the Friction
Justin: My experience with 8 speed is with the ancient Suntour Bar Cons, I have no problems. I try indexing from time to time but the fussiness, even with 8, keeps me coming back to friction. I travel with my Atlantis so it gets packed shipped. It always seems to take a couple of days on a tour to get the indexing working correctly. Riv says if you like the old Bar Cons, you'll love the Silvers. May give them a try, just for fun. dougP On Oct 3, 1:31 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: So it's time to get a new cassette for the Bleriot and I'm in a bit of a quandary. Last time I tried friction shifting something was just off. It wouldn't hold a gear when I started cranking on the bike going up hills or on the flats. Slipping gears drive me bonkers so I dropped it and went indexed. However, I recently moved the 700c wheels from my SOMA Double Cross (which the Bleriot replaced) to the Lady's bike. I grabbed an 8 speed cassette from Firehouse bikes and she's been shifting with absolutely 0 problems with her Suntour power ratchet thumbies. Since it's time to get a new cassette and I wouldn't mind spending the scrilla on some Silvers - should I be worried about friction shifting across an 8 speed cassette still? I I would probably roll with an 11-28 or 11-30 cassette with 48x36x24 in the front. Last time I was using a 9 speed cassette with a single ring up front and I think that could have been the problem. Am I being ridiculous and just order up? -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Back to the Friction
Justin: Cassette selection will depend on your kind of riding. You mentiona 48 tooth big ring. An 11 small cog won't see much use. 48 x 13 is a useful top gear, and you can get decent spacing and a nice low with that as a starting point. Harris' customs are around $60. A cheap option is 12-32 from Nashbar / Performance but the 12 is kinda useless. I've tried the cheapies and they seem to wear more quickly but I think they're under $20. dougP On Oct 3, 6:26 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: That is exactly the problem I had. Time to place an order! Next choice: Cassette. Harris Cyclery custom or off the shelf jobbie On Oct 3, 9:12 pm, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote: I don't know why, but I had slippage/ghost-shifting problems using Silver shifters with a 9-speed cassette. When I switched to 8-speed cassette, no problems. I prefer the shifting on the 8-speed over the 9 -- less micro finicky, and you can get the same range. And I like the friction shifting on my 7-speed freewheel even better than the 8. Not sure what I was doing wrong with the 9-speed cassette, but the only variable in the set-up (that I'm aware of) is the cassette. Glad to read here that others have success with 9 and even 10. -- Forrest (Iowa City) On Oct 3, 7:56 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Justin: My experience with 8 speed is with the ancient Suntour Bar Cons, I have no problems. I try indexing from time to time but the fussiness, even with 8, keeps me coming back to friction. I travel with my Atlantis so it gets packed shipped. It always seems to take a couple of days on a tour to get the indexing working correctly. Riv says if you like the old Bar Cons, you'll love the Silvers. May give them a try, just for fun. dougP On Oct 3, 1:31 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: So it's time to get a new cassette for the Bleriot and I'm in a bit of a quandary. Last time I tried friction shifting something was just off. It wouldn't hold a gear when I started cranking on the bike going up hills or on the flats. Slipping gears drive me bonkers so I dropped it and went indexed. However, I recently moved the 700c wheels from my SOMA Double Cross (which the Bleriot replaced) to the Lady's bike. I grabbed an 8 speed cassette from Firehouse bikes and she's been shifting with absolutely 0 problems with her Suntour power ratchet thumbies. Since it's time to get a new cassette and I wouldn't mind spending the scrilla on some Silvers - should I be worried about friction shifting across an 8 speed cassette still? I I would probably roll with an 11-28 or 11-30 cassette with 48x36x24 in the front. Last time I was using a 9 speed cassette with a single ring up front and I think that could have been the problem. Am I being ridiculous and just order up? -Justin- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Wonderful Antidote
Genetics has to be the key, along with weight management. I just got back from a week in northern Arizona with a few of my touring buds. We range in age from 59 to 71. The strongest rider is a 70 year old who's 6' tall weighs 140 lbs. He rides a Jurassic age MTB and hydrates with Mountain Dew. His father is still going strong at 95. I'm 60, have no weight issues, and can't keep up with this guy on climbs on my Atlantis. Pick your parents carefully. And keep cranking the pedals. dougP On Oct 1, 4:59 pm, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: That's very inspirational! I'd Ride with Jack Thacker any day! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
Johnny: There was a thread here about a year ago entitled is the Ram the perfect Riv? or something similar. It was long and quite detailed and worth digging up. I ride an Atlantis so I'm the last guy to ask about weight, performance, etc. But to your question about the Roadeo being significantly lighter than a Ram, if you were a true weight weenie, you wouldn't be looking at either. dougP On Sep 22, 5:02 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Bumping an older thread. Say that I found a really nice condition used Rambo in my size. Say it's a great price and from a very nice dealer. Is it worth the extra cash and time to go with the Roadeo. Is it really a ton lighter and will that matter. The Rambouillet would be run with light components (DT shifters, compact double crank, etc.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seven day out-n-back.
When is the tunnel at Devil's Slide due to be opened? dougP On Sep 20, 8:06 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: Devils slide is really what I want to avoid. And for good reason! I rode it last fall, at around 3 in the afternoon on a weekday, going south. I thought I was going to die. Never again. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
My Atlantis does not have them. I've only had 1 bike with them it was a small job with a file to remove them. IMHO, all the fiddling around with the skewer nut every time the wheel is removed leaves plenty of room for error in getting the correct tension. I support tours on occassion and see many riders needing assistance with this situation. The best skewer levers are the ones marked open and closed. dougP On Sep 20, 4:44 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has another example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was sensitive to this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant talking about it a bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some reason it couldn't be avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the bike.-Original Message- From: Horace Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips? The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warrenjimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure about the regular Roms and Redwoods. I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had that feature. -Original Message- From: William tapebu...@gmail.com Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips? Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips. My wife's Yves Gomez.I forget. I'll check. I noticed in the youtube video on how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips. Does yours? Do you care one way or the other? On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack. On the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike tightly enough. What a dilemma! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email torbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email torbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email torbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email torbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: style central cutest couple.
Quirky city bike just shows the versatility of what can be done with a Rivendell. And all these years we heard about country bike. At least the guy zeroed in on the lugs got into the details. Just caught the cool pedals in the last photo. Color doesn't really go with the orange but maybe that's part of the quirky city thing? Congrats on getting photo'd. dougP On Sep 20, 4:06 pm, jamison brosseau jamison.bross...@gmail.com wrote: the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on prolly is not probably. you have to scroll down a bit, but you will see the bikes. fame is going to my head and stuff.http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers
I packed an SS bike on a tour for someone who had to leave on short notice. He had photos in the case which made all the difference in the world, showing the packing sequence. I just deflated the 700c tires to get some more wiggle room. Never having done this before, it took well over an hour but I was also extra careful. The bike survived my efforts. Regarding cardboard boxes, I always hold my breath until I open one. I've gotten a dented top tube. Friends have had bent forks, tweaked wheels, bent RD hangers, bent large chainring teeth, etc. It's a rough world out there. When ordering my Atlantis, I was thinking about the SS system sometimes regret not having gone for it. I'll probably re-visit the idea when it's time to re-paint. dougP On Sep 19, 2:00 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Quite a jigsaw puzzle! I can't imagine packing a bike with 700C X 35mm tires and fenders! I'm sure it has been done, but those 650B tires (Nifty Swifty?) barely fit! On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: I don't find the Bleriot particularly easy to pack - the 135mm rear spacing makes it fat in the case, if you know what i mean. takes a lot of wiggling. Plus the Nitto stem - have to do some amazing handlebar wiggling, because I can't remove the stem. Can't speak to the height issue. Granted, my Bleriot frame is 51cm. It isn't the wheels that are the problem, although I do have to tip the front wheel to get the case to close. I deflate them; they wouldn't fit otherwise. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/881020020/in/set-7215760022302... Sweetpea also has couplers. As I've only had it a month, it hasn't had a chance to get packed. I'll leave that until I do have to go somewhere. On Sep 17, 11:53 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: What hasn't been mentioned is tire size. Both Lynne's bikes are 650b bikes. I'm presuming 650B and 26/559 wheeled bikes are MUCH easier to pack than 700C bikes, especially if you're talking touring width (35mm and above) tires and fenders. The world is out to get the tall people yet once again... :-) On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: All my destination reassembly has been inside, usually in the hotel room. I've assembled it in Prague, St George UT, Histon (UK), Budapest, our summer place... I have a sheet of plastic that I put underneath. No mess. No misplaced bits. Disassembly got a lot faster once I got a wireless computer :-) A LOT faster. I have a bin at home for the parts that come off that are staying home. The travel parts live in the SS travel case when they aren't being used. I also have travel fenders - Planet Bike Speedez. The Honjos stay home, as do the racks, and the generator hub front wheel.. My Carradice Barley is plenty roomy enough for the riding I do on vacations. So far :-) I can reassemble it in about 45 minutes, and disassemble it to return home in about the same amount of time. However, the combination of Honjo fenders and front rack and Silver brakes makes home (dis)assembly a bit more complex, requiring about 5 hands. :-) I can take fewer tools to the summer place - I keep some basic ones there, as well as chain lube. On Sep 17, 9:10 am, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: on my last two week trip with coupled Rambouillet, I did the reassemble on the lawn in front of my hotel. That took about 45 minutes and I had stuff strewn all over the lawn. Lot's of parts, pads, tools, etc. This was a typical assembly location. When the trip was over, I was offered the use of a conference room inside the hotel as the location to do the disassemble and packing. Indoors with no distractions and a banquet table is my preferred venue. All was smooth, quiet and having a place to put tools and lean the bike can make a subtle difference. On Sep 17, 8:35 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Surly Traveler's Check which is the Cross Check with SS couplers. It has been absolutely one of my best purchases ever. No problem with the airlines. No big bulky bike box with the threat of enormous fees and/or outright rejection hanging over the trip. No danger of severe damage or loss of pieces coming out of the box. The peace of mind in traveling, for me, is priceless. That's why the cost effective argument doesn't make sense. One may be willing to live with the downsides of airline travel with the bike in a card board box rather than pay the admittedly high cost of couplers and case. That's a matter of personal preference. But what one cannot do is obtain the advantages of a coupled bike for less money than the cost of couplers and a hard case. There is
[RBW] Re: Seven day out-n-back.
Ray: Congrats on a great trip thanks for the pix. Meeting all those fellow travelers shows you don't have to be on the road for a month to have a great time. Everyone touring on a bike seems to have their own ideas on equipment, distance, routing, etc., that are endlessly fascinating. College kids on hand-me-down MTBs seem to have as much fun as seasoned veterans on touring bikes. It's all good; just better on a bike. dougP On Sep 19, 6:47 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: Hello, I just finished up a great seven day out-n-back from SF to Monterey. It was supposed to be a nine day loop heading one day east then south through the California central valley with a cut over to the coast and head up through Monterey to SF. Day one was way to hot so I bailed on that idea. Instead I re-loaded the Hillborne and headed to SF where I meandered down the coast, camping at state parks, stayed at Pigeon Point hostel (after an aborted Big Basin run) and turned around at Sunset Beach Monterey. I pushed the bike over 92 (horrible road to ride a bike) to Half Moon Bay going and took Devil's Slide coming back. I hit Devils Slide at 10 am and there wasn't much traffic. I charged over at 2mph without having to be at peace with entire world. The Hillborne was great, I didn't have tons of stuff maybe 40 pounds at most but the bike took the down hills smoothly and I felt in control the entire way. People talk about front end shimmy. I did feel that but only when I did weird things like stand up and lean over the handle bars or ride with one arm and the other leg out (bike yoga) otherwise it was steady ride. The highlight of the trip was the other people on bikes i met along the way. One English couple were on the first night of their one year around the world tour. They had fully loaded Thorns with the Rolhoff hubs, the super duper Trangia cooking set and a very roomy Hilleberg tent. It sounded like a great adventure. A french fellow was ending a tour across the US, an Austrian couple were in the middle of a tour of the west coast. People doing border to border rides in both directions and then there was me I'm just on vacation dang it! . It was fun to see lots of Trangia stoves among the Europeans The Hillborne generated some fun comments : How old is that bike?, What does the kick stand weigh? Most people said the usual nice bike but one fellow riding a fully loaded Lemond said Rivendell? I hear they make great touring bikes, yes they do! I didn't take many pics, mostly Hillborne posed by the ocean. I have a few posted here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wrebb/sets/72157624990502478/ Note the brand new B17 standard. I retired the black Flyer Special since the springs take up lots of saddle bag space. The new saddle felt great from the start and, I think, is springier that the flyer. Regards, Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dogwalker
Dogs and bikes are a dangerous mix for all parties involved. dougP On Sep 5, 9:38 am, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: Made a quicky add on to my nitto back rack for walking the mutts. A recipe for certain disaster -- the next squirrel we pass will probably be my undoing -- but not a little fun. http://www.flickr.com/photos/92441...@n00/sets/72157624760118439/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: wheel shipping
Bike shops get wheelsets in a neat box, just the right size, with some cardboard holders for the rims. Ask your LBS to save one for you (mine always keeps a couple around for giveaway). You can go on-line get the rates for FedEx ground, UPS USPS, based on dimensions weight. For wheels, the size will probably be the controlling factor, not the weight. The box I have is for 700c measures 27 x 27 x 6-1/2. dougP On Sep 4, 9:39 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Since I'm sure some of y'all on this list have done it. What's it normally cost to pack and ship a wheel across the country? Let's say from the east coast to the west coast. Anyone done it recently? thanks, -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Today's Riv Adventures
Nice work Eric. You've reallly captured the character of these older towns. dougP On Sep 2, 8:46 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Rusty and Crusty On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Couple of places I visited today with my Riv: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4952637569/in/set-721576247... --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne + SRAM Apex
That is stunning. I thought I'd moved beyond bike lust but it's still there. I too especially like the orange cable housings. Great photo work. dougP On Sep 3, 11:45 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: The orange cable housing is a nice touch! On Sep 3, 11:27 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: Just in case you were wondering about the destiny of the Orange HIllbornes framesets we compared the other day, the single top-tuber is now done: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ Ron wanted to try out the new SRAM Apex group for his almost-daily bike path ride. He'll add fenders and his own Brooks saddle soon. And yes, ATMO the Apex group is as good as the Shimano 105. Bryan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1982 Bridgestone Atlantis
Very nice. I especially like the catalogue page with the bike set-up with racks panniers. I've owned an Riv Atlantis since 03 and only recently learned the significance of the 2 on the decal. This one pre-dates my bike by 21 years. Nice to understand the lineage. dougP On Sep 1, 6:50 am, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: From: Jacob Smyth jhsmyth...@gmail.com You can the pictures here:http://picasaweb.google.com/100062156430961581353/BridgestoneAtlantis... =directlink --- A beautiful bicycle to be sure, but how is it appropriate to this list, please? -- Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Another side of the question is whether or not you demand the the ultimate in performance for various types of riding. If you intend to go on the weekly racers training ride on Thurs and rock hopping on Saturday, you need a couple of very different bicycles. OTH, if you like friendly pavement rides, S24Os, some hiking trails and fire roads, pretty much anything Riv makes can handle those. I've portaged my Atlantis across some rock falls that may have been passable on a double suspended MTB (not by me, mind you!) and chased some fast guys (downhill works best). It's obviously less than ideal for those situations, but not so much as to create serious bike lust. FWIW, as much as I love my Atlantis, I'll venture a Bomba or Hunqa, set up the same way, would perform just as well. dougP On Sep 1, 5:23 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Enough, as I imagined it, would be sufficient for a given person. In other words, might it possible that someone might have a sufficiently narrow use range, so that one versatile bike could satisfy? Yeah, you're right, probably not. Not if that someone really likes bicycles. On Aug 31, 8:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Define enough.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1 Toptube or 2 -- Comparing the Two Versions of the Hillborne
Because I know people will ask ... the weight difference between the frames is 8 ounces. For perspective, that is about the difference between a full water bottle and one that is 3/4 full. Now that puts the weight in real terms. I defy anyone to tell the difference in how their bike performs with a full bottle or empty bottle, let alone partially full. Thanks for the info, Bryan. dougP On Sep 1, 11:04 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: In the Shop we happen to have two 56cm Hillbornes. One is the Taiwanese made Maxway, the other is the Waterford version from WI. Of course, we couldn't help but take photos:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/?album=7gallery=66 Obviously, the double toptuber is the Waterford version. It also includes braze-ons for cantilever brakes, and a rear bridge for the cable stop. The fork crowns are different. Because I know people will ask ... the weight difference between the frames is 8 ounces. For perspective, that is about the difference between a full water bottle and one that is 3/4 full. Both bikes are in our build queue; we'll post pictures when they are complete. Now, let the debate begin ... Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Check 'dem Chains Folks
Chains for 6-7-8 speed service are usually easy to find on sale so I stock up a few at a time. I've never broken a chain but have never pushed one beyond maybe 5k-6k miles in a mild, dry climate. I have worn out rings and cogs. Since 8 speed stuff is becoming increasingly scarce, I've started changing chains every 2-3k miles, regardless of measurement. Riders in wet climates such as Seattle have mentioned changing every 1k miles to prolong cog ring life. Chains are comparatively cheap and easy to change. Also, that factory lubrication is better than anything we can do. dougP On Aug 30, 8:33 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 1/2 per foot. Wow. I was brought up by some pretty fastidious mechanics. I was taught in the early 80's 2000 miles or 1/8 per foot, whichever comes first. Perhaps that's the reason I have always stocked up on chains and have never replaced a cogset or chainring due to wear in my life. How many miles on those rings and cogs? I've got 10K+ miles on the single 46 t Cyclotourist (old mfr) ring and almost that much on the 15 t Dura Ace track cog; the cog is fine, the ring is showing the beginning of hook where the backside of the troughs wears from the rollers. (No sign of deterioration in performance, though. I check my chains regularly and have changed that on this bike at least 3 times; how long do *you* get between that 1/8 stretch? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!
From the dam at Big Bear Lake, the watercourse of the Santa Ana River is right at 100 miles to the Pacific Ocean, with roughly 6,000' of elevation loss. Should be an easy centry, no? Nice pics, David. I've noticed the trails up there noodled it out on a map once but never given it a go. I see the trail bike attached; did you Jake get dropped off ride home? dougP On Aug 29, 6:51 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: The Santa Ana River Trail is wonderful. One of the hidden gems of SoCal. Hopefully someday it will be 100 miles stretching to the mountains. Right now it's about 30ish non-stop, which is nothing to complain about! I was up at the top end of it today:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4939559369/ On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:40 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still trying to work up to that level. Regular old ordinary is about 30 miles right now, with 60ish being a bit of a push... :-) David, i'm right there with you. When I go out on a weekend it's normally 30-40miles and then home for a bit. I do wish NC had more trails so that I could not have to think about cars. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqaposter!
The bike is positioned somewhat like one of the bikes in the Hiawatha poster. Being a Rivendell dealer in Minneapolis, and the apparent cold weather in the Hunqaposter, I think I see a connection here. dougP On Aug 30, 4:43 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The Hunqaposter is Hunq-larious, in my opinion. Primal caveman with stone helmet hiding from three wooly mammoths, but he's got his wristwatch! http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/356/original_hunqaposter.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!
David: Congrats on getting the IT band worked out making a metric. I see from your speed averages the affect of the on-shore winds. You shoulda called. We did a modified Back Bay Loop today, swinging north into Newport to check out some door hardware. We were within a couple of miles of each other. Found a new bakery, conveniently located next to a bike shop called, somewhat immodestly, Bike Religion. dougP On Aug 28, 6:48 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Success! A GREAT ride with no IT band pain! I've been stretching, taking anti-inflammatories, moved exclusively to cleats (SPuDs) pushed out as wide as possible, and lowered the saddles a touch. Some combination of the above lets me ride longer distances, at least 63 miles worth!http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4935845053/in/datetaken/ I was hoping to do a garage to the beach ride with a pick up, but instead drove half way and then did an out and back. Strong headwinds gave me a 13 mph average going downhill to the ocean, and then propelled me to an 18 mph average back up! What's amazing in my mind is how good I felt through the ride. A little bit of neck pain around 40 miles. Stopping and stretching real good fixed that right up. I'm kinda' thinking of trying to do an Imperial century next weekend, spouse willing. A TON of cyclists out today. Just amazing and Visual documentation here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/archives/date-taken/2010/08... -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!
David: I'm in for next weekend if we can get the specifics nailed. Let's plan a meet up point time. Since you've done SART PCH in summer is a bit dodgy, I can come up with an alternate parallel route that won't rob you of miles. Figure out a schedule let me know. BTW, I've gotten reports from one of my touring buds of a Glorius in the NB / HB area. Keep your eyes peeled. dougP On Aug 28, 7:22 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Robert: Take a real good rest after the flare up! That's the for sure port. Everything else is just guess work. I also used a roller, but not very frequently. I think using the SPDs and widening the tread was the most useful. The basic IT stretch worked well, too. I try to stop and stretch and eat every hour. The problem is not gone as I can still feel tingling now and then, but it is greatly reduced! Doug: Ha, right down the street! I found a REALLy good little bakery right by the Neport Pier. Didn't catch the name, but it's right there on the path next to the bars and stuff. I'm kinda' hoping to push for a full century next weekend. It's 89 miles from my house to San Clement via SART and PCH, and thinking I might just try it! On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote: Super! It sounds like things are working out great and you had a wonderful ride. It's encouraging because I'm just coming down with a bit of IT band pain have just started a stretching routine, etc. I've got a century coming up next month and have to register in the next day or two to get the reduced rate. I've been debating it and your report is tipping me towards going for it. Aloha! On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:48 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Success! A GREAT ride with no IT band pain! I've been stretching, taking anti-inflammatories, moved exclusively to cleats (SPuDs) pushed out as wide as possible, and lowered the saddles a touch. Some combination of the above lets me ride longer distances, at least 63 miles worth!http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4935845053/in/datetaken/ I was hoping to do a garage to the beach ride with a pick up, but instead drove half way and then did an out and back. Strong headwinds gave me a 13 mph average going downhill to the ocean, and then propelled me to an 18 mph average back up! What's amazing in my mind is how good I felt through the ride. A little bit of neck pain around 40 miles. Stopping and stretching real good fixed that right up. I'm kinda' thinking of trying to do an Imperial century next weekend, spouse willing. A TON of cyclists out today. Just amazing and Visual documentation here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/archives/date-taken/2010/08... -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metric century is in the can!
Esteban / David: Recently we found a great sandwich shop on PCH near the North Beach Metrolink platform. There's also a cycling support / bike rental shop right at the platform. There's picnic tables outside, water, they sell stuff like energy drinks, tubes, gloves. Curious facility worth a look. We better go off-line with this; the only Riv content is the bikes we'll be riding! dougP On Aug 28, 7:33 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: David/Doug - I'd love to meet you in San Clemente for lunch next weekend if possible - let me know! Move in day at the college, and they wanted faculty to say hello to the new students, so no riding for me. I was trying to get them to get bikes and ride around town. Talked with about a half dozen Portland families, none of whom rode bicycles. I told them, you're wasting your residency! Looking forward to an afternoon ride tomorrow - its been a while. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 28, 7:22 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Robert: Take a real good rest after the flare up! That's the for sure port. Everything else is just guess work. I also used a roller, but not very frequently. I think using the SPDs and widening the tread was the most useful. The basic IT stretch worked well, too. I try to stop and stretch and eat every hour. The problem is not gone as I can still feel tingling now and then, but it is greatly reduced! Doug: Ha, right down the street! I found a REALLy good little bakery right by the Neport Pier. Didn't catch the name, but it's right there on the path next to the bars and stuff. I'm kinda' hoping to push for a full century next weekend. It's 89 miles from my house to San Clement via SART and PCH, and thinking I might just try it! On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote: Super! It sounds like things are working out great and you had a wonderful ride. It's encouraging because I'm just coming down with a bit of IT band pain have just started a stretching routine, etc. I've got a century coming up next month and have to register in the next day or two to get the reduced rate. I've been debating it and your report is tipping me towards going for it. Aloha! On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:48 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Success! A GREAT ride with no IT band pain! I've been stretching, taking anti-inflammatories, moved exclusively to cleats (SPuDs) pushed out as wide as possible, and lowered the saddles a touch. Some combination of the above lets me ride longer distances, at least 63 miles worth!http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4935845053/in/datetaken/ I was hoping to do a garage to the beach ride with a pick up, but instead drove half way and then did an out and back. Strong headwinds gave me a 13 mph average going downhill to the ocean, and then propelled me to an 18 mph average back up! What's amazing in my mind is how good I felt through the ride. A little bit of neck pain around 40 miles. Stopping and stretching real good fixed that right up. I'm kinda' thinking of trying to do an Imperial century next weekend, spouse willing. A TON of cyclists out today. Just amazing and Visual documentation here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/archives/date-taken/2010/08... -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: More uses for John's Irish strap
I can attest that it's load rated to hold a small window air conditioner in place. Need to find a permanent solution so I can get my straps back. Or I could just buy some more straps; that's a better idea. dougP On Aug 27, 12:21 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Cool. I have used the 1 meter for a belt, and when I only have the shortie around, I just thread it around two belt loops, tightened it, and managed to hold my pants up *that* way, too. John Irish Strap Bennett @ RBW On Aug 27, 9:02 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 26, 10:27 pm, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: My wife forgot a belt, so guess what one strap is being used for? Looks good too. Same! It's my fave riding belt: http://tinyurl.com/24xpf4k Happy near weekend, Lee- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
RJM: Congrats on planning to get a pair of Rivendells. Now I'll toss in the curve: just buy an Atlantis and a couple of sets of tires. I've been riding mine wherever for over 7 years now. The standard Paselas suffered a bit off road but I've been using 35 mm Schwalbe Marathon Supremes for a few years they work fine on So Cal jeep trails, fire roads, etc. They are a bit narrow for deep sand. The Atlantis is my touring bike, trail bike, riding around town bike. OTH, you could probably tour just as well on a Bomba or Hunq. One of the beauties of Rivendell is that the bikes are simply not that specialized; they do a lot of stuff wonderfully. dougP On Aug 25, 11:14 am, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking to get my first of two Rivendells and having a problem deciding which is the best to go with. I have decided that I absolutely need an Atlantis set up as an all-around tourer. I am confused on the next bike though which will be the first one ordered as I don't have a tour planned in the near future. I want a trail- bike that I can take on some of the singletrack nearby but also want it to have a small front and rear rack to be able to carry some bags. The trails aren't too technical and a non-suspended bike with 2 tires should be awesome on them, the racks would be to hold stuff to go on overnight lightweight camping trips. I am looking at either a Bombadil or a Hunqapillar and am stuck deciding which one. I have a PBH of 77 and weigh 220, so a stouter bike is probably the way to go. If I am figuring this right, I would require the smallest size with the whatever frameset I go with. I'm just not sure which one to go with, or if they are even that much different. I guess it comes down to what size wheelset, 650 or 26. What are your opinions on it? Do you think the Hunqapillar would make a better bike for singletracking/camping because of the 26 wheels or would the larger size be better? I like the looks of the paint scheme on the Hunquapillar and the headbadge is killer, but a solid colored powdercoated Bombadil would be a durable bike for many years. I think a white one would be cool looking. Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Never ridden a Bomba or Hunq; no clue how they would differ from the Atlantis. The Atlantis has a slightly sloping TT. I'm in the overlap region between 58 61, and went with the 58. 100 mm stem, bars set even with the seat no clearance problems or any other fit issues. Riv is pretty easy to work with on questions. See what they think. Better yet, go for a visit. dougP On Aug 25, 2:30 pm, RJM rjme...@gmail.com wrote: I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Angel Island S24O
William: It's not about the length of the ride, but the depth of the adventure. Taking young children on this trip is fantastic. They must have had a blast that's what it's all about. Congrats on getting the weather to cooperate! Now when they want to start picking out their own gear, you know they're hooked on touring. Good for you. dougP On Aug 23, 6:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Talk about perfect timing. It's been the arctic wasteland summer in El Cerrito, and near the SF bay in general. I wake up in the hils and it's low 50s and shrouded in fog. I'd been halfway dreading the conditions for my late-August S24O on Angel Island in the middle of the bay. Turns out today was the first legitimately hot day all summer, and last night was the S24O, planned 4 months in advance. I feel like a genius. There wasn't a ton of riding, by this group's standards, but it was an awesome adventure for me, my 9 year old son and 6 year old daughter. Mom stayed home. The travel included: 1. Bike to El Cerrito Plaza BART 2. BART to Embarcadero Station 3. Ride to Pier 41 4. Ferry to Angel Island 5. Bike (mixed terrain) to campsite on East Bay side of the island 6. Reverse same trip next morning to get home My kids each lugged their share of gear in backpacks, and the Hillborne was impressively laden. I'd love to do the same trip again with more time allotted to riding the great fire roads on Angel Island. Jack Browns were ample, from what I saw. I'll post some shots to my flickr in a bit. I highly recommend that all of you with the chance take your country bike out on Angel Island if you get the chance. Especially on a weekday or an over-nighter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Taking my Atlantis on Tour
Robert: Thanks for the post; I'll be following. Reminds me I should be on my own tour not poking around here dougP On Aug 21, 1:15 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! Have a great time. The pictures from your tour down the west coast last year were great. I'll be looking forward to your Flickr updates. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New to the RBW Group
Daniel: As David mentioned, the SoCal group (what are we calling ourselves this month?) has semi-organized rides (sometimes we make it up as we go along) on a schedule similar to the RR. All that's required is an appreciation of Rivendells and a tolerance for their owners. Bonus points if you like wool and canvas. If you found this group, you're on the right track. dougP On Aug 20, 1:39 pm, Daniel aframaf...@gmail.com wrote: Greeting - I just joined the group and have been reading threads. I tried to post, but that didn't go through, so I tried one more time and then read the FAQ section and realized a couple things 1) I should introduce myself to ya 2) I may have in advertantly double posted (although the messages are pending approval - I think - I can't see where I can edit/delete them) I'm a bike commuter in Southern California with an affinity for lugged steel. My current project is a tan Nishiki International and I'm working on getting my wife in riding. She has a modern Al/Carbon Jamis, but with some luck, we may yet get her on a steel frame. All the best, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell All-Rounder 59cm
Chris: Someone is going to be extremely fortunate to get that bike from you. People wait a year or more for something like that. And on the Renovelo thread someone was musing on why are all the good deals on extra large or extra small bikes. Here's a wonderful opportunity on an in-demand size. Now, can I convince my wife that an All Rounder is complimentary to my Atlantis? dougP On Aug 20, 6:26 pm, Chris Cullum cullum.ch...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this one hurts but I really don't use it enough to warrant holding on to it... Rivendell All-Rounder, Joe Starck built, Joe Bell paint burnt orange with cream headtube 59cm C-T, 57cm top tube, 44.5cm to centre of horizontal dropout chainstays, 2 deg upslope to top tube, IIRC 72 deg parallel seat and head tube angles, standover mid top tube is just under 33 or 83.5cm, 3 water bottle braze-ons, huge tire clearance (26 559 wheels size) Nitto Frog seatpost, Brooks honey B17 saddle, Nitto Tech Deluxe 110mm stem, Nitto Noodle 46cm bars with shellacked blue cateye cloth tape, Tektro levers and mid-profile Shimano XT cantis with KoolStop salmon pads Shimano Ultegra 8 speed barcons, XT front and rear derailleurs, XTR M900 cranks (the ultimate) with 46/36/26t rings, UN7x 107mm BB, 12-28 XTR cassette, Sram chain Wheels: Shimano XT 32h 737 hubs, Bontrager Mustang rims, Wheelsmith 14g db spokes, handbuilt Mark Garcia, Ritchey Tom Slick 1.4 folding Kevlar bead tire, I can include some extra NOS Michelin Hi-Lite Comp 1.75 folding tires with light tread (similar to a CdV) Bike is in great shape and shows virtually no wear. There are a few paint chips (not many the paint is very good) that have been touched up with matching paint. I got this bike off the list about 5 years ago and haven't really used it much. Most of what I have done is upgrade the parts, switching out the Moustache bars for Noodles and a longer stem and putting on the XTR M900 crankset among other things. Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11446...@n07/sets/72157624770263720/ Asking $2500 (a new Riv custom frame and fork only starts at $3000USD, $3300 next year). I'm in Vancouver, Canada but if shipped to the US I will ship from WA state. -- Chris Cullum Vancouver, BC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here
I'm going with Eric on this one. I have bikes with both 170 and 175 and can't tell any difference at all. Maybe we share a similar riding style. There are areas where a lack of sensitivity simplifies life. dougP On Aug 21, 6:07 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Well, I'm 6' nuthin' and my bikes have 170, 175 and 180 cranks. Didn't realize the last one until looking at my Fargo one day and realizing it had these really long crank arms. Never even noticed the difference. Funny enough, my one century is on the bike with too longa cranks. Probably means that my riding style is sufficiently poor that things like that go unnoticed, but it sure makes buying replacement cranks easy. What length do you want? Whaver you have that's cheapest. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 21, 8:17 am, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for posting that. As a tall rider I've never tried long cranks. As it happens, I take delivery of a custom bike next week with 185mm TA cranks. I'm almost hoping that they're not all that. My other three bikes with 175's are going to be quite costly to convert if they are. On Aug 21, 7:13 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: In regards to longer cranks, there's a lot of unfounded fear and mis- information that gets spread . Longer cranks don't hurt your knees, or slow your cadence, or ruin your pedal motion. Resistance domes from fear of change fear of the unknown. We all experience it. There's 3 groups about longer cranks. Those that have tried them and found them invaluable. Those that try them and didn't like them. Those that talk about them but never tried them. I refer to this http://www.nettally.com/palmk/crwives.html-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Kickstand Trimming
I cut mine twice it's still too short! dougP On Aug 16, 1:19 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: My rule of thumb is to tell Mark what bike I am putting it on, and he usually knows what to cut it down to. If you've already crossed that bridge, then Riv says 1cm at a time and iterate. I'd recommend following that advice. On Aug 16, 1:10 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, So, I am ready to mount my KS having secured the necessary (shorter) bolt thanks to Mark @Riv. Now my question is whether there is a method, rule o' thumb, etc. for cutting the KS down to size or is it simply trial and error. Not sure how much lean is appropriate for stability. Forgive the novice questions but I haven't had a KS on a bike since I was a kid. Let's just say that was a LONG time ago.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Is this rim wear unusual
David: I've seen this before on Matrix ISO rims in the 80s. They came dark anodized. Over time, the dark anodizing wore off at each spoke location. This process took years and even when worn there was only mild bumpiness when braking. If these are fairly new rims, I suspect a rim problem more than a brake problem. There may be a way to rig a dial indicator in a wheel truing stand to check the suspect surface. The wheel may be true in that it doesn't wobble, but if the braking surface is lumpy it could cause the symptoms you are experiencing. dougP On Aug 13, 7:53 pm, carnerda...@bellsouth.net carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote: My 650B Sam Hillborne has Velocity Synergy rims and Shimano Deore V- brakes with the pads that came on them. Since new the front wheel has had a little tick with each revolution while braking. I assumed this was a slightly raised joint line that would flatten out with normal wear. Over the last two weeks I have had three12-15 mile rides on gravel and chip seal roads which include some steep sections with multiple pot holes and required heavy braking. Between these rides I had the usual short commutes to work. I noticed that braking in the front had become much more uneven to the point that firm application of the front brake caused an unpleasant thump with each revolution. I decided it was time to clean the braking surface. When I did I found the front rim to be fairly deeply scored and in a pattern where the deepest scoring corresponds to each spoke hole. This is the same on both sides of the rim. The rear rim does not have this pattern. I have never seen this and can't find mention of it on the internets. The links below are to pictures I took to try to show the pattern. Am I doing something wrong to cause this? Should I change to different brake pads? Should I be worried about this?http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4889788162/in/set-72157623654420644http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4889790774/in/set-72157623654420644/http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4889196607/in/set-72157623654420644 David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Latest Adventure Cycling Magazine
Kudos to whoever put the ad together. I quickly thumb thru AC cover to cover but the orange Sam with full rackage brought me to a quick halt. Before yesteday I had never heard of Renaissance Bicycles (granted, my univerise is small) but I dropped everything to log on to see who are those guys?. The Soma, Riv VO logos at the bottom got thinking something's going on here. Looks like they've found a nice niche to fill. Love the concept. dougP On Aug 13, 7:24 am, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Eric for the complements on the Ad and the Sam Hillborne. Like Rivendell, we are happy to support the Adventure Cycling Association. We believe in their mission and appreciate the wealth of touring oriented information that they readily provide. For the next year or so, we've pledged 1% of all of our sales go to their organization. I wrote a blog post about it a little while ago:http://wp.me/pFM6M-tl As for the bike, you can see more photos of Bob's Touring Edition on the website:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/?album=12gal... And details of Bob's parts selection:http://bit.ly/OrangeHillborne Bob plans to ride the bike Coast-to-Coast in 2011 as a retirement present to himself. Cheers, Bryan On Aug 13, 6:17 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Just received mine in the mail yesterday. While flipping through, noticed a very nice ad by Renaissance Bicycles on page 16. Beautiful photo of a perfectly built up Sam Hillborne. That, along with a Rivendell ad a few pages later means twice as much Hillborne as normal in this issue. Will read the magazine after finishing The Lost Cyclist. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwinn Paramount 700c Conversion Country Bike
That really came out nice. I dunno, but polished lugs, a front rack, a triple,...looks pretty Rivish to me. The matching pump plus single bottle cage is cool. Hey, I recognize those shifters - got a few of those myself; they're the best. dougP On Aug 10, 6:44 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: At any rate, I'm pleased with the conversion. I'll bet you are! Very good job. Mr. Schwinn looks right handsome in his Riv clothes. This isn't strictly speaking a Rivendell content post, but I think it has some relationship to the type of bikes that Rivendell is building, especially the AHH and Sam Hillborne models. I imagine anyone in Grant's generation with a hankering for bikes at one time or another spent some time admiring a Paramount. On Aug 10, 8:39 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: I had a post, a while back, regarding questions about the Rivendell Silver/Tektro R556 brakes, in regard to a 700c conversion that I was considering for an older Schwinn Paramount 27 wheel size bicycle. This isn't strictly speaking a Rivendell content post, but I think it has some relationship to the type of bikes that Rivendell is building, especially the AHH and Sam Hillborne models. In fact, one of the photos on the Flickr website of Rivendell staff bikes got me thinking about the conversion (it was a photo of a AHH, nice blue color very much like this Paramount). At any rate, I'm pleased with the conversion. The Tektro R556 brakes, which were originally spec'd by Grant for his Country Bikes are a godsend for a 700c conversion from a 27 wheel size. The brakes work very well, with ample clearances to fit larger wheel sizes and fenders. My Paramount is presently fenderless (and may stay that way, given the relative dryness of the Arizona climate) and it's presently fitted up with a 700x28c tire size (Panaracer Pasela) simply because I had those available from my personal stock. I'm planning to fit the bike with the Rivendell Jack Brown Green tires, which I think are about as wide as I'd like to go with Mavic MA2 rims. I posted some photos of this bike on my Flickr photostream, if you're interested: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964...@n05/sets/72157624699133170/ Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Time to think, time to ride: Sage-scrub Special along the coast
Esteban: Your description of the Protovelo ride qualities sounds like my Atlantis. On the rare occasion when I ride something else, even if I enjoy it, there's always something about getting back on the Atlantis feeling at home. You realize when you do something like this, it just invites hordes of people to move to San Diego. Thank you for NOT posting a photo of a wahini with a surfboard posing with the Cadillac. The rest of you must understand that he had to go to all this trouble just to find some peace quiet. Southern California is way overcrowded, too many people, too many cars, crummy air, hot, generally yucky place to be. And the beach gets all fogged in, you can't see a thing, it's cold, clammy, you have to wear a sweatshirt after sunset or you'll freeze. Tourist season's been lousy so the Chamber of Commerce hired Esteban to do this as a promo. It's all a fantasy! He photo shopped the whole thing! dougP On Aug 7, 6:11 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: So, I had some things to ponder. Not terribly important, but unresolved, and its high time we bring them to some conclusion. So, I went for 60 miles up and down the coast for some sometimes lollygagging, sometimes hard riding, with lots of stops for thinking, writing, and looking out upon the ocean. It worked! http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157624675556552/ Got to see a lot of interesting things, as always, along the coast. In more list-relevant news, it was a pleasure to take the Protovelo out for this. Its 60 c-c, and I prefer a 58, but its a big Riv, in a traditional touring size with touring gearing and even 175mm cranks (I usually ride 170). It rides like the Caddy in the photoset, I'm sure - big, stable luxury. Its not the most fun in hard efforts over the long haul. It just wants to ramble and amble. Maybe some of Grant's riding philosophy is built into the design and preferred sizing. I must also add that two other things kept interrupting my internal deliberations: the still-fantasic Hetres and the Nitto 135 rando bars, which I like very much. Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Today's Ride: Looking Up
Eric: You're doing the same thing for the Sierra's that Esteban did for the beach. Now I know I wasted a perfectly good day doing other stuff. dougP On Aug 7, 5:09 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: It had been way too long since I'd been out to Mormon Emigrant Trail, so I packed up the Riv Road this morning and headed for the mountains. An hour later, I was at Jenkinson Lake, ready to start the climb, which is basically about 28 miles of almost uninterrupted uphill. Nothing super steep, but as you'll see by the photos it just keeps going, and going, and going. The payoff, of course, is the ride back from the top--imagine coasting at 30+ mph for an hour! FYI, this is the signature climb of the Tahoe Epic, a semi-regular Davis-to-Lake Tahoe-to-Davis ride that now looks like it will happen in early September. Anybody who's up for a little climbing can contact me offlist for more info. Photos:http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157624675175946/ --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: what a difference a cm makes
I center punch the seat post, stem and handlebars for ease of re- assembly at the start of tours. On Aug 6, 7:30 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I bought that romulus from andrew on the list and I hadn't had much chance to ride it due to family drama but recently I was riding it more and I wasn't entirely comfortable, but I couldn't figure out what was going on. Then I was reading BQ and read the article about health, bike-fit and training guides from long ago and tried out the 'heel on the pedal are your hips rocking' test. In fact, yes, my hips were rocking. So I dropped the saddle height about 1 cm and left everything else alone. WOW, what a difference it made. Everything feels 'right' and lined up. The bike feels dramatically faster and comfortable and it's freaking me out a little bit. :) Now - here's a silly question for everyone. If you have a bike where you routinely have to move things around to do work on it or to transport it - what do y'all use to mark your seatpost height? I'm not sure I want to score it - I've tried 'permanent' magic markers but they aren't so permanent on aluminum. :) any other ideas? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
Anne presents a concise thought exercise, pertinent to the original post. While I agree that subtle differences in weight can make significant differences in speed and/or time, I'll gladly haul the cookies. dougP On Aug 4, 2:01 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:51 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: What I am talking about is minor weight differences (as the original poster mentioned) like between a 23 pound bike and say a 29 pounder. Those differences can't amount to much OK, let's say I compare my 23 pound bike with that same 23 pound bike, but with six pounds of... something... added. Food. Cookies, say. I and my twin will ride side by side, me on the unladen bike, OtherAnne on the bike with the cookies. -- OK, we're climbing our favorite hill, which usually takes us around 30 minutes. Say that I, with all of my bike clothes and everything, weigh 170 pounds. So I have a total of 193 pounds on the unladen bike, and OtherAnne has 199 pounds, about a three percent difference. Air resistance is negligible at climbing speed 10 mph; speed is linear on total weight. I drop OtherAnne like a bad habit. She's over a minute behind; I can't even see her. By the time she finally makes it to the top, I start making references to having to use a calendar to time her. (Of course, I can't have a cookie while I'm waiting, because she is carrying them.) Where I live, cyclists climb a lot of long hills that take over half an hour, because the flats have traffic and stoplights. If I'm giving away over a minute on every hill to my friends with lighter bikes, that might not be vitally important, but it's not nothing, either. -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver
If anyone finds scratches from these types of supports, check the rubbery stuff. It wears gets torn. Tool dip is a rubbery stuff in a can that can be used to re-coat the surfaces that touch the bike. dougP On Aug 1, 7:19 am, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I used one of thos Nittos on a tour on my Atlantis and it worked great. Nary a scratch. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:58 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver Angus, that looks great! By Nitto thing are you referring to the Nitto Wire Guard that Rivendell is selling? This one: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-wire-guard/20-189 How do you like it? Does it gouge the stays the way the Silver Hupe does? I hope not. I'm thinking of picking one up. Anyway, great Atlantis. Looks like it's back in time to get out for some late summer camping/touring trips. --miketext - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. ------ To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ======- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell on Cyclelicious
That's what can happen when go on tour. People are intrigued by someone on a bike who's obviously traveling some distance. Being on a bike you are approachable voila, start of conversation. It's a bunch of fun. Manny, it sounds like you had such a great time, my guess is you're hooked on touring now. dougP On Aug 1, 3:19 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Great picture!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Big Apple 700x60 tires and tubes
I've got a couple of old Atlantis info sheets both list max tire size at 2.1 for the 26 wheeled (excepting the 47 cm frame @ 1.7) and 52 mm for the 700 wheels. I also recall Riv generally says the Atlantis handles anything up to 2 wide. Don't forget that the rim width affects the inflated tire width. On Mavic A 719s (don't recall width but they're wide) my 35 mm Schwalbe Marathon Supremes measure 35 mm. Others have mentioned that Schwalbes tend to run narrower than the nominal width. So the same tire on a narrower rim may not be 35 mm. dougP On Jul 31, 9:04 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: On the Schwalbe site there is a comments forum, and one of the posters begs Schwalbe to make a 55, because the 50 is too skinny and the 60 rubs on the chainstays of his Atlantis. Again, that's second hand info, and it depends on the rim, but that was my source. The tires are still available. On Jul 31, 4:49 am, Shawn sa240...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe the 60s will fit without fenders and the 50s will fit with fenders. On Jul 30, 10:35 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The 60's, I'm told, will not fit an Atlantis. The 50's will, or that is my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong. On Jul 30, 6:06 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: Huh? They won't fit an Atlantis? On Jul 30, 6:50 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: So after lots of soul searching I've decided to hold off on taking delivery of the Hunqapillar. There are actually 3 bikes that I badly want, and I can only afford one, so I'm going to take a few months to decide which one that will be. I have the build kit for a Hunqapillar all set up. It will all store well, but the tires are the only part that I can't use on any other bike. So, now you can have them. It's a pair of folding Liteskin Schwalbe Big Apples, 700x60, a.k.a. 29x2.35. I am told they are too wide for an Atlantis. I am certain they are the best tire in the world to have for a Hunqapillar. I don't know if they would fit a large Bombadil. I have the tires on wheels now, but they've never been ridden. Schwalbe website has these tires at $70 each. Two tires and four presta valve inner tubes (Bontrager brand). $100 shipped anywhere in the Continental US. Contact me off-list please. Thanks! Bill- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike tour From Santa Barbara to San Diego
Manny: That's good to hear that Amtrak took the bikes that way. I saw your pix of them hanging in the train car I've done that on the Surfliner route. That bus leg has always put me off using Amtrak to the Bay Area. To get to San Francisco requires another bus ride from Jack London Square. dougP On Jul 30, 9:23 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Actually Doug thats exactly how the bus portion happened. I just tossed my bike with the panniers under the bus. On the bus ride back there was three of us touring so we had to take our panniers and front wheels off. But we made it fit. On Jul 30, 8:45 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I wonder about the bus portion. It would be cool if Amtrak lets you just toss your bike in the luggage compartment on the bus. dougP On Jul 30, 10:28 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Also on the Amtrak Surfliner which runs from San Diego to the Central Coast you can hang your bike in the baggage car w/o boxing. and Manny... that is a relly nice story and trip! I see you made to Station Tavern.. the food and beer there is great. ~Mike~ On Jul 30, 10:02 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Amtrak's coastal trains require that your bike be in a box (which they will sell you for about $10). In the Capitol Corridor, you can roll the bike on and hang it from special hooks in the passenger cars. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Jul 30, 2010, at 9:47 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Doug: As I recall, Amtrak's California coast line allows roll ins. Wish that were the case on the trains between Chicago and Minneapolis. On Jul 30, 11:44 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Manny: On your return via Amtrak, did you have to box up your bike for the train? What about the bus portion? dougP On Jul 30, 7:36 am, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Another excellent Manny adventure! Thanks for the photos and report. I gotta ask, how much weight did you gain on this trip? The meal and food place photos made me hungry. Cheers, JimD On Jul 30, 2010, at 12:04 AM, manueljohnacosta wrote: Just got back from a tour. Many things learned, lots of things seen, reflected on the important things. My second long bike tour, I felt much better about this one than last years, more because it was causal, nothing really planned out just kinda going. Didn't really train for this tour but I wasn't planning to go fast anyway. First day I took the train to Santa Barbara to meet with my buddy Duy. As I get off the train I meet one of many bike tourers going in the same direction. After some friendly nods, we take a short ride down to Carpinteria State beach and got dinner ready. That night we got to meet a ton of people touring down the coast. We met a father and son on a tandem on a quick overnighter, a retired guy riding his way up north, a young guy riding solo from seattle who went by Ezra and we also caught up with the traveler from the train who went by Jean- Pierre, who was riding from Toronto down to Mexico. We all eat our meals, share our stories and tried sleeping with the amtrak roaring through at 1am in the morning. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624607224862/ --- --- The second day we said our good byes, wished each other a safe journey and rode down to Leo Carrillo. When we get there we were surprised to see Ezra at the campsite before us, we greeted one another and hanged out on the beach, played some frisbee, and got washed up by the waves. Ezra rode with Jean-Pierre, but Jean-Pierre decided to ride further down to LA. As we finished our meal we are greeted by two buddies riding super late into the campsite. These guys brought the party; one iron skillet, a huge dutch oven and a ton a of beer. We offered our fire and they cooked and shared some grade A lamb. We slept that nice with good food in a belly and great people to talk to. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624607372192/ --- --- The third day we ride into LA early, since my buddy Duy hasn't ridden in a bit we decided to take really slow so we try to go early. Along the way we pass Ezra and Ezra passes us it becomes kinda like a yo-yo all the way till we reach Vince Beach. Along the way I learn that Ezra just finished college with an Architect Major and is moving to Oakland to find
[RBW] Re: Unicycle Touring... (Rivendell News 7/29/2010)
Depending on the type of tour, my Atlantis usually gets loaded up with 20 to 35 lbs of stuff. Last summer I met a college age young man on a ferry from Victoria, BC, to Port Angeles who was starting a tour with a giant messenger bag that he said weighed 31 lbs, and by the size of it I didn't doubt it. He was riding a MCRB so of course no way to carry anything. A uni-cycle would impose similar luggage constraints. I guess some sort of hiking backpacking system may work. The guy must have figured out something to rack up multiple 100k days. And I always thought of cycling as minimalist. dougP On Jul 30, 11:36 am, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: About 10 Readers back Grant mentioned a special run of lugged Rivendell unicycles. They were going to be made by Toyo and possibly have 650b wheels. Maybe this was a joke? I would love to have one. While I dont think unicycling is great transport, it is fun. It is a totally different feeling than riding a bike with 2 wheels-- like i imagine flying would feel. So I get it, but unicyle touring? No thanks. Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike tour From Santa Barbara to San Diego
I wonder about the bus portion. It would be cool if Amtrak lets you just toss your bike in the luggage compartment on the bus. dougP On Jul 30, 10:28 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Also on the Amtrak Surfliner which runs from San Diego to the Central Coast you can hang your bike in the baggage car w/o boxing. and Manny... that is a relly nice story and trip! I see you made to Station Tavern.. the food and beer there is great. ~Mike~ On Jul 30, 10:02 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Amtrak's coastal trains require that your bike be in a box (which they will sell you for about $10). In the Capitol Corridor, you can roll the bike on and hang it from special hooks in the passenger cars. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Jul 30, 2010, at 9:47 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Doug: As I recall, Amtrak's California coast line allows roll ins. Wish that were the case on the trains between Chicago and Minneapolis. On Jul 30, 11:44 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Manny: On your return via Amtrak, did you have to box up your bike for the train? What about the bus portion? dougP On Jul 30, 7:36 am, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Another excellent Manny adventure! Thanks for the photos and report. I gotta ask, how much weight did you gain on this trip? The meal and food place photos made me hungry. Cheers, JimD On Jul 30, 2010, at 12:04 AM, manueljohnacosta wrote: Just got back from a tour. Many things learned, lots of things seen, reflected on the important things. My second long bike tour, I felt much better about this one than last years, more because it was causal, nothing really planned out just kinda going. Didn't really train for this tour but I wasn't planning to go fast anyway. First day I took the train to Santa Barbara to meet with my buddy Duy. As I get off the train I meet one of many bike tourers going in the same direction. After some friendly nods, we take a short ride down to Carpinteria State beach and got dinner ready. That night we got to meet a ton of people touring down the coast. We met a father and son on a tandem on a quick overnighter, a retired guy riding his way up north, a young guy riding solo from seattle who went by Ezra and we also caught up with the traveler from the train who went by Jean- Pierre, who was riding from Toronto down to Mexico. We all eat our meals, share our stories and tried sleeping with the amtrak roaring through at 1am in the morning. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624607224862/ --- --- The second day we said our good byes, wished each other a safe journey and rode down to Leo Carrillo. When we get there we were surprised to see Ezra at the campsite before us, we greeted one another and hanged out on the beach, played some frisbee, and got washed up by the waves. Ezra rode with Jean-Pierre, but Jean-Pierre decided to ride further down to LA. As we finished our meal we are greeted by two buddies riding super late into the campsite. These guys brought the party; one iron skillet, a huge dutch oven and a ton a of beer. We offered our fire and they cooked and shared some grade A lamb. We slept that nice with good food in a belly and great people to talk to. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624607372192/ --- --- The third day we ride into LA early, since my buddy Duy hasn't ridden in a bit we decided to take really slow so we try to go early. Along the way we pass Ezra and Ezra passes us it becomes kinda like a yo-yo all the way till we reach Vince Beach. Along the way I learn that Ezra just finished college with an Architect Major and is moving to Oakland to find a job. We promise to go riding next time we're both in the East Bay. Riding through L.A. Duy would always tell me that the drivers are crazy and cyclist risk their lives riding on the streets. I always figured that Duy was a big complainer, so I took the lead. As I was telling him that riding in L.A. wasn't so bad a guy gets out of his car and almost doors me. I guess I was wrong. We finish the day at Duy's apartment drinking milk teas poolside and eating at the famous Gloria's downtown. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157624488433817/ --- --- The fourth day I had to ride the rest of the way solo so Duy offered to take me a few miles closer from his school UCLA. It took me a while to figure out how to get out of East L.A. but after being chased by some stray
[RBW] Re: Spring Fender Spacing Thingy
Can you post a photo? Springs are easy to find at good hardware stores especially industrial supply stores. There's more to the mounting than just using a spring, correct? dougP On Jul 28, 3:03 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Some creative bike mechanics use a spring device to attach the fender to the chain stay bridge. Seems like that is ideal for my current project as the bike has Campy 1010 horizontal dropouts. I have looked around and do not see where any of the usual suspects sell such a thing. Are the mechanics cobbling this together? If so, anyone come across a blog or youtube showing how? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
That is cool! Modifying Ti is a bit above my pay grade, tho. They say the make it out of scrap, so I'm guessing small runs. I'll ask them if they'll do one with a 15 mm open end. dougP On Jul 26, 7:54 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: And it should be made of titanium. http://www.paragonmachineworks.com/storename/paragonmachineworks/dept... Okay, not a pedal wrench, but it could be modified. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:46 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: What this world needs is a 15 mm pedal wrench on one end with a bottle opener on the other. When was the last time you found a 9/16 spindle? I have a nice collection of cheap cork screws, gathered on various tours. Can you believe 6 wine drinking cyclists NO ONE thought to bring one? Guess we're not the wine snobs we make out to be. dougP On Jul 26, 5:59 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No corkscrew required.http://www.stx.ox.ac.uk/system/files/images/Knob+Creek.JPG On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I did that once and found myself in the Maine woods trying to open a cabernet with a screw driver. I swore never again. Now I always include a swiss army knife in my tool kit. There's only so much civilization I leave behind when I tour. michael On Jul 26, 7:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
+1 for the pump. I've lent my pump to plenty of riders who've run out of cartridges. A separate spoke wrench is easier to use than the one in a multi- toool. Since the rear drive side spokes are the ones most likely to fail, the tool for removing your cluster (FW or cassette) is needed for on-road spoke replacement. OTH, a well built, touring grade wheel should be able to limp to the next LBS with a broken spoke. dougP On Jul 26, 7:52 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This is what I do: Pump not CO2 (you won't run out of cartridges and you can top up the tire pressure over time) Tools: Just enough to tighten/adjust every fastener on the bike (may be one small multi-tool) + small chain breaker (if not in multi-tool) + tire levers Spares: Tubes (2) + spokes (3-4) + zip ties + duct tape (a foot or so wrapped around a small wood dowel) + patch kit + tire boot + 2 bolts that can replace rack bolts + 2 brake pads (if you think you'll wear them out) + chain master link, derailleur brake cables if you want. That's pretty much what I bring also, except I don't bring spokes or cables. I also bring a spare folding tire, and of course a bottle of chain lube and a rag. CO2 cartridges don't fit in with the Riv esthetic, I don't think, whether on tour or just riding around. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
+1 for the Grip Kings. I've got a couple of years on mine love 'em. Good grip even when wet. I usually wear a soft rubber soled shoe such as sandal or sneaker so that may help with the gription. I've also tried BMX pedals and I think anything with a lot of surface area some aggressive grabby surface is good for touring. The MKS sneaker pedals are slippery when wet. As long as the pedal draws blood, it's aggressive enough. dougP On Jul 26, 10:28 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ben, I think the suggestions you have for tools are great so far- I just have a comment on pedals. I'm currently 2600 miles into a 5000+ mile trans-continental trip from Boston MA to the west coast (and then hopefully down the coast) via northern Ontario (which was awesome)! I'm at the public library in Sheridan, WY at the moment and happened to see your post so I thought I'd add a vote for platform pedals. I'm also somewhat averse to racing/clipless shoes or conventional straps, and am using platform pedals because I've always used them. I've done a couple of looong high-mileage days here and there- due to lack of decent camping spots or for other reasons- and have sometimes had some leg/ankle cramps that required me to reposition my feet on the pedals much more than you'd be able to even with regular clips/straps. It's also nice to be able to wear my sneakers. I've also had some very hot days (95 degrees all day yesterday, from Gillette to Sheridan via Rt 14) and it's great to be able to wear something like Teva sandals on days like that. The only downside I can see is that you have to worry about slipping a pedal, which can end badly if you don't have good control of the bike when it happens :( However, Grip Kings seem to have a wide/long/ ample platform, so I think you'd be MUCH less likely to slip a pedal on those than on, say MKS touring pedals (which are also fine pedals nonetheless, and are what I have). Good luck on your trip- it's going to be sweet! Matt On Jul 25, 11:30 pm, thebvo the...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all! I'm doing the Pacific coast tour (2000 miles - yikes) in september. It will be my first long distance tour ever, so I would love to hear suggestions on what to bring, besides camping gear. I've been backpacking for 10 years, so that part is covered, but what I'm curious about deals with bike tools and accessories and tips. For example: bike pumps - cO2 cartridge or top tube pump? Pedals - Grip king or cages? - I am NOT doing the lance armstrong shoes. So, I dunno. I'm just puttin it out there if anyone with experience wants to float some knowledge my way about touring. Thanks a lot ~Ben ps: I'll be out in the woods canoeing for 3 weeks, but when I get back I'll be ready to read and learn. Cheerio- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
What this world needs is a 15 mm pedal wrench on one end with a bottle opener on the other. When was the last time you found a 9/16 spindle? I have a nice collection of cheap cork screws, gathered on various tours. Can you believe 6 wine drinking cyclists NO ONE thought to bring one? Guess we're not the wine snobs we make out to be. dougP On Jul 26, 5:59 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No corkscrew required.http://www.stx.ox.ac.uk/system/files/images/Knob+Creek.JPG On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I did that once and found myself in the Maine woods trying to open a cabernet with a screw driver. I swore never again. Now I always include a swiss army knife in my tool kit. There's only so much civilization I leave behind when I tour. michael On Jul 26, 7:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] that's no mountain bike...
Doing a solo mixed terrain yesterday, I came across a couple of MTBers resting along a jeep trail that runs along a ridgeline, several miles from the nearest pavement. One of them remarked that my Atlantis was no mountain bike. My reply was that it was doing just fine, thanks. As always, the ideal rejoinder came to mind several minutes later - It's more than a mountain bike; it's a Rivendell. Second place was Guys, it's just a jeep trail. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: 700 x 28 Pasela TG
Looking for a pair of 700 x 28 Pasela TGs, prefer foldable but wire bead OK. I know list members often buy tires to try out but end up not liking them. Lightly used OK but please no chewed up sidewalls, cuts or other real damage. Reply off list. Shipping to ZIP 92606. Doug Peterson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
I'm with Charlie on this one. I love my Atlantis because I can use it for anything. The lugs detailing are a nice bonus but I'm not going to baby it or worry about a few scratches. Every once in a while I get out the model paint to touch up some major paint damage (like adding more fork eyelets) and start working on all the little scratches. An hour later I quit I'm never done. It's a bike, not a religous icon. A very nice transportation tool but still a tool to be used. dougP On Jul 17, 10:13 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Holy cow they are just bicycles ! I don't think a cheaper bicycle would be any less likely to be stolen or damaged by use. Lets face it, you can't take this stuff with you when you die so enjoy it now. Quality things are nice to own and use and.if you can afford something expensive then use it (don't wreck it) but do use it. I wouldn't waste all my hard work on something that just sat in my garage never to be ridden except on a perfectly paved bike path, on a sunny day, when the pollen count and bugs are low and the planets are in perfect alignment. Ghee whizz ! I'm done being dramatic now ; ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cross Country Trip
Buck: My touring buds I have done many tours over the years, with a variety of arrangements, always trying to balance cost, comfort, convenience adventure. We're all well over the hill have no ambitions to back-to-back century days while camping cooking. We've done SAG suppported tours someone is always is to drive for a half day. Agree upon a lunch / hand-over spot, driver takes off parks the van. Driver is then free to ride back up the course however far they want to go, turn around, ride the balance of the days ride. Whoever takes over at the lunch stop drives the van to tonight's destination, rides back up the course if they want. OK, you don't get to ride every mile of the tour but you can get pretty darn close. By sharing the driving, you save the cost of hiring. Our preferred vehicle is a mini-van. We've supported 10 riders with camping gear out of a mini. In Europe we've done a dozen out of a small hatchback on lodging tours. A rental is much easier to split the costs unless someone is OK with putting several thousand miles on their own car. If you have all your stuff carried, you can either camp or motel it, depending on deisreabilty of camping areas, weather, costs, etc. We're lousy cooks so prefer restaurants but can get by on cup'o'noodles when pressed. Keep it flexible. For your proposed trip, start recruiting now you can probably get enough people to split the car cost to make it work. We've found 5-6 is pretty easy to get togehter but keep it under 12 as it gets pretty cumbersome at that level. You may also get people who want to go partway others who want to join you somewhere along the way. Be creative. The advantage to doing your own tour is control of mileages routing but you accept a lot of responsibility in the bargain. dougP On Jul 15, 4:44 pm, Buck ahurv...@gmail.com wrote: Long story short... After planning, training, and convincing my boss I just had to do it, I began a solo cross-country bike trip in 1985. I started in Anacortes, WA and expected to end in Boston (my hometown). I rolled into Omak, WA three days later with a raging corneal infection. My ophthalmologist insisted I fly home immediately. It's been gnawing at me ever since. The math is easy... I'm 25 years older. I'm not nearly as fit. I no longer want to drag a tent and sleeping bag 3000 miles or drill holes in my toothbrush to lighten the load (kidding). But... I bought a new Atlantis a couple of years ago thinking that just maybe I could make the trip one day. I'm thinking about next summer. I'm looking for comments/suggestions with the following guidelines: I still want to do the northern route and include, if possible, Going to the Sun Road in Glacier. I don't want to carry a tent and I'd prefer not to carry a stove, etc. I would definitely consider a group with a SAG wagon, but I'm gagging at the prices ($6000+). I want to ENJOY the ride. My original plan was 5+ weeks (probably optimistic). I'm thinking more like 7-ish now, though I need to figure out my level of fitness, etc. I was out for a ride today and came up with this fantasy find 6-8 compatibles and work out a loosely organized trip that includes hiring a college student(?) to basically drive a SAG wagon for us. Mostly to ferry the gear from point to point, but also as a safety net for emergencies or repairs that can't be fixed without parts/tools. Any ideas? Any inexpensive organized trips you know of? I could handle camping if the gear was in a SAG wagon. Or I could do cheap hotels. Is this an acceptable topic? Buck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Minneapolis bike rentals?
Tim: Check with Jim Thill at Hiawatha: http://hiawathacyclery.com/cart/ If he doesn't, he may know someone who does. dougP On Jul 1, 12:07 pm, Timothy Whalen whalen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am in Minneapolis Friday and Saturday with some time to ride. Anyone know of a place that would rent a Riv style bike? Thanks, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grant's excellent comments today
Check out today's post on the Riv website for Grant's comments on dependent vs independent variables in bike design. While he sorta apologizes for the tone, I find it quite direct and to the point. Look folks, here's the bits that matter the rest are the result. Makes sense to me. One of the most lovable features of Rivendell is the just the facts tone of so many of their published pieces. People occassionally ask me some dimension on my Atlantis. Other than the frame size, I don't know. I refer them to Riv's website if they want to agonize over seat tube angles. The bike does what it's supposed to do quite nicely. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Whenever I see a photo of Grant's bikes, I want to clean them!
Cleanliness is highly over-rated as a virtue. I don't always wash my riding clothes that regularly either. As to the feet, well, they clean up pretty good in the shower, no worries. dougP On Jun 29, 8:51 pm, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: I've been looking more closely at the photo: http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/317/original_grim_three.jpg I'm not as concerned about the bike as I am about the dirty feet that all three of these folks are displaying. -JimD I don't mind if my bike gets dirty but clean feet are next to godliness (or something like that). On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Mojo wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/317/original_grim_three.jpg I think the above URL should be changed from grim to grime! I like getting my bikes dirty, but it is not alot of work to clean them afterward. Drivetrain grime especially gets in the way of crisp shifting. And I paid a heck-of-alot-of-moola for that JB paint job! Nice bikes deserve to be cleaned. And even my beatup 1966 3-speed is a nice bike in my book. Of course this says alot more about me than Grant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
A guys was checking out my Atlantis one day commented he hadn't seen an Atlantis in many years. His age suggested he'd been around bikes for a while. Perhaps Riv isn't the first one to use the name Atlantis? Or in the dim mists of time there was a manufacturer by that name? Most likely the guy was just assuming it was a nice old bike. It's sorta fun to tell people, yea, it's old; 7 years old this year. dougP On Jun 28, 7:51 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Finished my second century on my Sam, the century leg of the MS 150 in Cache Valley, Utah. Once again, many comments about the Sam including several people who asked me how old it was. One guy guessed it was from the 1960's. I didn't notice any other Rivs on the ride, which was odd considering the number of people participating. This was my first time on the north loop of this event, which winds from Logan, Utah through dairy country and small towns in into Idaho. Anyone looking for a neat charity ride could do a lot worse. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
So this guy may have been more savvy than I thought. Always kinda wondered about that 2. dougP On Jun 28, 1:44 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:29 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: A guys was checking out my Atlantis one day commented he hadn't seen an Atlantis in many years. His age suggested he'd been around bikes for a while. Perhaps Riv isn't the first one to use the name Atlantis? Or in the dim mists of time there was a manufacturer by that name? Most likely the guy was just assuming it was a nice old bike. It's sorta fun to tell people, yea, it's old; 7 years old this year. bridgestone made an atlantis.. That's why the riv atlantises are atlantis2. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver
That came out quite nicely, beautiful color choice, and multiple braze- ons give the bike so much more flexibility in choice of accessories. dougP On Jun 27, 5:36 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I had one set of braze-ons added when I initially purchased the frame, I had two other sets and a rear chain rest added during the re-paint. One set is for the Tubus low rider front rack, the second it for the fender stays, so I don't have to mount the fender stays to the rack (makes taking the rack off more time consuming). Angus On Jun 27, 5:43 pm, Boogarich rwasiew...@socal.rr.com wrote: Did you add the front mid-fork braze-ons? Or, did your Atlantis come with these braze-ons from Rivendell? On Jun 27, 3:19 pm, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Back in the day I had a silver Rivendell Cyclocross bike, I really enjoyed the color. A good bike. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx/2007/cx025-anguslemon0407.html So when I managed to damage the clear powdercoat on my Atlantis, I opted for a silver cream repaint. http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/4740106394/http://www.flick... I think it came out quite well. I have just finished frame savering the frame (figured I had better after the repaint) and can't wait to get the bike back on the road again. The only unfortunate thing is the frame showed up right before three weeks of traveling. Angus- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thesis, antithesis, synthesis, or, ignorance banish'd
Rene: It should, if the upper mounts are 165 mm above the lower ones. Check the touringstore.com website for a drawing showing this. The Duo has no vertical adjustment. The 3 holes on the mounting tabs allow leveling of the rack. The Duo comes with a spacer kit for fitting it up to forks of different thicknesses. What I did was locate the new mid fork braze-ons 165 mm above the rear lower fork eyelets. I checked the location using the Duo as a template it was correct. On my fork, we drilled holes in the fork blades and brazed in 5 mm water bottle bosses on both sides of each blade. Note that Riv does NOT recommend drilling holes in their forks but I don't always do as I'm told. It may also be possible to use hourglass mounts on the front or rear of the fork if you want to avoid drilling. A friend who has the necessary equipment and experience actually performed the work, and I'm pleased with the result. dougP On Jun 24, 7:15 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Doug, Assuming the Atlantis was set up with a fork with full braze-ons like the Bombadil fork is currently set up, will the Duo mount well on the braze-ons that are behind the fork and that are meant for low-rider racks? I'm getting such a fork on my Atlantis that will replace my Bombadil, and I'm very curious to find out if the Duo will work well, or if I'm better off with the Nova. Thanks for your feedback! René On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:03 AM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: +1 for Mojo's set-up. I have the same on my Atlantis (did require un- authorized fork mods to provide mounts for the Duo). The Acorn Boxy Rando sits low enough not to have too much affect on handling but is readily accessible. The Duo pops on off easily and is compact for packing the bike for shipping. dougP- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ride report: Hwy1 to San Luis Obispo
Bill: Did you notice any closed campgrounds on Hwy 1? I came down in late April a couple of the campgrounds were closed as Cal Trans was using them during construction repair work. They try to get the work done by Memorial Day. This is one of my favorite rides. It's as beautiful as any coast I've seen, quite accessible and plenty of services. It's a perfect bicycle tour because you can see so much more from the bike and it's easy to pull off for photos vistas. dougP On Jun 23, 3:04 pm, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: Thought I'd share some photos from my recent solo getaway down the CA coast: http://picasaweb.google.com/Wheelsmith91/2010SLOTrip# I managed to get a few days freedom from the day job and family responsibilities to ride out my driveway, ending up in SLO. Nothing like getting some personal time like this to remind a guy how important it is to do so I camped in the hiker/biker campsites in Sunset Beach, Pfeiffer Big Sur, and San Simeon. Can't beat $5/night and .75c for a hot shower :-) Took my Trangia alcohol stove and a teapot for coffee and oatmeal in the morning, but otherwise grabbed restaurant food on the way. The weather was pretty cold and windy from Sunset Beach to well past Monterey, but got nicer as I headed south. Luckily, I came across a Pendleton outlet store in Pacific Grove and got a wool shirt at 1/2 price, which I definitely ended up using every night The AHH worked great - no mechanicals or flats. The load on the Platrack helped balance the weight out a between front and back. I retured home on Amtrak out of SLO. The Amtrak bike boxes are huge - you don't need to remove wheels or fenders. After lowering the seat and stem, twisting the bars, removing the pedals and the Platrack, it was ready to go. 5$ handling charge for the bike, $15 for the box (but they'll hook you up for free if they have a used box available). Cheers, -br -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tektro CR720 canti brakes
I installed them on my Atlantis a couple of years ago. The stock Shimano low profile ones that came from Riv never seemed very powerful, especially with a load. The Tektros were an inexpensive experiment it's worked out. They are somewhat more powerful than the stock brakes but more importantly have better modulation. On dirt with 35 mm touring tires the brakes are wonderful, no inadvertant locking up or other bad habits. I played around a lot with straddle wire lengths trying to maximize power must be the least sensitive guy around. I just couldn't tell much difference in straddle wire heights. They seemed to work pretty good regardless of where I put it. dougP On Jun 23, 6:01 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Use them on my Sam Hillborne. They work fine. Nitto Mini up front and big Nitto in back. No problems with bags or anything. Although I did swap the front straddle hanger for an old Dia-Compe to more easily clear a Nigel Smythe bag. Did swap the pads for the Rivendell sold Yokozuna, but that's just a personal preference. Put those pads on my wife's bike early this year and she finds them the bee's knee's. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 23, 3:42 pm, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have experience with these? Do they interfere with a rear/front rack? Good/suck? I am assuming since Riv carries them that they do not suck but would like other opinions.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
