i said i liked the record you jerks. even that it might be one of my
favorites this year. i'm sure mj was great live, sorry i havent seen him
yet, sounds wicked. i think he's a good producer. i was not dissing him, i
was not insulting anybody who is wild about the record, i was just stating
my
i wasnt trying to say mj doesnt deserve praise you know. but i don't care if
the whole list proclaims it record of the year, i can still state my
opinion. derek p may be a great dj and a beautiful human being but he doesnt
know me and i dont appreciate being called an elitist and to get over
things next. That Minus record is clearly the single of the year so far -
by
a long way.
i'm choking on hype somebody gimme the heimlich! clearly? a long way? who is
on this awards committee?
i do like it. i don't know if you mean it is the biggest (313 related)
record of the year so far?
record in July, a bit
ridiculous.
amg
On Jul 24, 2004, at 11:30 AM, J. T. wrote:
things next. That Minus record is clearly the single of the year so
far - by
a long way.
i'm choking on hype somebody gimme the heimlich! clearly? a long way?
who is on this awards committee?
i do like it. i
do you guys mean that audion track with the crazy rave sounds?
the mathew jonson reminds me of the maurice fulton remix of freak7 out a few
months ago...same bass sounds at least, the fulton is fun too (more wild),
would go well together...
maybe, but the remixes came out this year -- and
thi s one will blow away the peacefrog one easily..
honest
I hope so, because there were only 2 good tracks on the peacefrog album.
The
rest was filler IMHO. The A1 is real crap to my ears. ;)
ahh my faith in 313 slightly restored...!
i agree, that peacefrog album is totally
i dunno, but it's also sampled very nicely on the new microworld album on
transmat, super catchy summery detroit techno style yea
hey spotters! the chorus in this song. where is it from??? it's driving me
crazy not being able to recall it. (yeah, yeah, I know, it *is* a rather
short
lester laundree chopstick cha-cha
what a radickerous!
jason kenjar wrote:
Ok.
If you died today and had arranged for your
cremated ashes to be pressed
into a record, which one would it be??
Drew= Final Frontier
MEK = Larry Heard Alien Lp
Me= Wave Jumper
keep em
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The same goes for those amp fiddler ep's on Guinine and the Dwele
album on
virgin. After being quite excited about them I just can't listen
to them
anymore. I think J.T. opened my eyes and eares
about 30 years ago a large portion of my dad's record collection was
stolen..it included many super rare old 78's worth several thousand dollars
these days...every once in awhile he'll spot some of them being sold now
(they're identifiable due to having unique chips, or labels, or being 1 of
last i heard there was a new dopplereffekt album coming on the DUB label.
since it's on DUB i expect it's more noisy/abstract like that last one, but
i bet it'll have some nice stuff...
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just noticed submerge is carrying a lot of new stuff, some new labels in
s.i.d. -- environ, kajmere (nice larry heard remix!), etc etc...turning more
and more into a one-stop shopping place...
stuff i'm digging:
roko dragonbreath - jumpin 2 conclusions (blacklabel) -- great electro, and
one
i like lisa's take on it. it's really no big deal. if the music is good
people will enjoy themselves, unless they are a crappy audience who will
stand around staring regardless of what you do.
so if you have great music, be at least somewhat satisifed, don't take it
too seriously, not
All trends of revivals aside, if you appreciate true house and techno I
can't imagine I'd even really still listen to and like techno without
understanding the contributions that acid house made to it along the way.
forget that.
i want to hear magical sounds like no one has ever heard before.
fyi, spun is also making records as thick as thieves, along with ben
cook..real nice disco re-edits!
i see on discogs they had an album out on noid a few years ago too, anyone
heard?
looking forward to hearing the rong stuff
Wow, Jason is still playing.. I haven't heard about him in years. On
it doesn't justify it, but you seriously shouldnt be too suprised when it
happens. Im just ssaying that despite his motivations for doing limited
copy
releases, he might be better off getting the money for his tracks unstead
of
leaving it to the bootleggers.
this whole blame-the-artist thing
All he said was that in limiting the supply, it creates a bigger market
for the bootleggers.
I would have thought this was pretty obvious, so why the controvesy?
He doesn't say that it's ok to bootleg because there's a market does
he!!
hmm maybe it is the limits of online communication, but i
Orlando Voorn played a great ghetto tech track probably called Sweet Potato
Pie or at least that's the theme. Anybody know what record it is? Thanks in
advance.
dj assault - hoes get naked on databass
orlando was awesome!
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havent been following the thread so sorry if is a repeat but heard the carl
craig remix of la funk mob twice on the same stage on the same day, 1st from
aardvarck later from recloose..i was happy
Just wanted to add one:
Tim Wright - Thirst (Luciano´s dancehall remix) heard this twice at
i guess this is mostly for you alex...hey!
it was a fun weekend, tho i forgot how much festivals freak me out. too many
people. too many nasty people. too tired to be around so many people.
most everything i saw at the festival i enjoyed, tho i didnt see a whole
lot.
saturday it was novamen,
it was NOT nice meeting tristan..:P just playing! i accidentally deleted
your name from my list of shouts..no pikeys allowed! sorry we couldnt chat
more...i was so tired...
anyways, i hope they were able to raise a bunch of money and it happens
again next year...
There were no major sponsors at all, a couple years ago Ford was a major
what about miller, mtv europe, panasonic, and everybody's favorite...Big
Boy! (ok maybe that's not major, but it was great)
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i didnt mind the noodling at all except for one song. they were tight as
hell. they played kraftwerk's numbers, best cover i've ever heard of
kraftwerk, it was ur-ized. and the sounds were perfect. they played amazon.
electronic warfare, jupiter jazz, soulsaver...afrogermanic? it's all a blur
whats up with everyone loving that angola remix so much?
I dig it too, but the pepe bradock get down dub version is sooo
much
better IMO, although not for DJing I guess.
that much better? i like them both but the cc mix is techno. the pepe is
less different from the original
adonis is looking for people (anyone! -- but check his int'l wantlist ;) to
record little shout outs to be included on his next record...deadline in 1
week
info here
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fri may 28th at the oslo: rob hood, legowelt, and perspects
flyer at http://www.s-y-d.com/softcurls.jpg
the only appearance for rob hood i've seen so far...too bad green light go
is the same night.
btw
It already has. Less vinyl is selling, and fewer titles are being pressed.
i'd like to see evidence linking declining vinyl sales to mp3s. anybody else
read the oberholzer-gee report? it's excellent. it begins by shooting down
the assumption that every mp3 downloaded is a sale lost, which is
did you miss something here, or am i misreading something? 40% of
$2 is $.80, times 1000 = $800. thats gotta be easier to earn than
$800 selling vinyl records, especially considering the lack of
upfront costs for the artist.
haha no my math sucks, you're right. but still, are mp3's that
haha no my math sucks, you're right. but still, are mp3's that sellable?
more than vinyl? if you sell 1000 records there is considerably more
profit...oh well, whatever.
sellable in the context of underground dancemusic...i don't things are there
yet? but i dont know.
dan k or somebody
Oh and anyone noticed some changes to the Movement line-up? I haven't seen
these names on the list before:
- Traxx
- BMG of Ectomorph
- Kill Memory Crash
- Sal Principato of Liquid Liquid
cool...they've also added links to bios to some/most of the names...unless i
just hadnt noticed that
I think end of may... this collection of material, some old and some new
is excellent.. I played the first track on the CD... a few tracks are
exclusive to CD I believe.JT want to chime in? It's reay good
man! :)
thanks matt alex robin...the cd has 1 exclusive track (the one
the way i heard it was that he was shopping 2 albums (one being dark
comedy), but the peacefrog is those 2 albums combined and minus filler?
heard it from some dude who works at a label that was considering the albums
before peacefrog, but maybe he's mistaken. and since i now count 3 albums
i kinda agree about the limitations of your set when you're a dj on tour but
it's not as bad as what you guys are saying. a record crate holds a lot of
records, enough for 3 completely different sets at least, mix and match and
you have i dunno 6 or 7 pretty different sets.
also a fun thing
tracks. Also, basically, everybody likes a bit of nostalgia don't they?! If
these tracks weren't so naive, raw, and unpretentious, I thgink I'd be less
inclined to like them. I'm a sucker for basic and unpolished. To me, if
there's a 'soul' to be seen, you'll see it more clearly that way. Don't
That seems to
count
for a lot right now.
u got kids? how bout h.i.v?
Good points you make jt.
hahaha you know i wasn't trying to be all serious or anything right?? those
are d.i.e. lyrics...from r u married?
r u married?
r u occupied?
hahahaha
Kenny Larkin private press - tasty! anyone else had a listen yet?
i've been meaning to ask...is this track actually like 12 years old or
something? just out of curiosity. it's called let me think and on that
P.O.D. ep there is an excerpt off the radio at one point announcing a track
of same
yes that's pretty much where minto and i met, tho we were both on 313 as
well.
morgan was there, darshan, anabella from jersey devil/ma..charles noel, ed
luna, i think todd sines?..teep, kent w...jeff samuel...lotsa fun...candy
ravers on channel 1 broadcasting everything..ha
i joined 313
therefore it could very well be that you are surrounded by much more
futuristic music then you'd think, you just don't recognise it as such, as
it's not compattible with your view of the future.
i thought this was very well put.
i don't have much of a conception of the future right now, my
He does some of the older material, I think he's retiring that. He doesn't
yeah there's an article on him in the last Time magazine -- this is the last
time he's playing his older stuff. supposedly.
they also talk about him being a jehovah's witness now and how you'd think
it would tone
many that the price turns out to be unsustainable
and they can't sell all the copies produced.
~David
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Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Re: () SIX NINE represses?
so
as reported on by the nytimes a few weeks ago..(
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30813F83A5D0C768CDDAD0894DC404482
)
the full Oberholzer-Gee report:
http://www.unc.edu/~cigar/papers/FileSharing_March2004.pdf
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i saw the first 69 repress at recordtime over the weekend...it was $16!!
maybe it had the wrong sticker on it, i didnt have any money anyway so didnt
ask. is it a euro press distrib thing? orr..oh well.
I've asked Carl Craig about this repress last friday (@ nouveau casino
-Paris) and he
what?? there's no reason for a gd repress to be $17. f that. i aint buying
it. i'll wait to pick up a dozen other classics for the same money at a
secondhand place. there's loads of other classics out there...
i dont think there are many positive ramifications of pricing records this
way.
it is
but will you get this record? its certainly not easy to come by
used for nothing. im sure some people will have their stories, but
in a smaller city like pittsburgh, theres pretty much zero chance
of me coming up with that record.
who cares. i'll get a dozen other records that are equally good.
so you dont like the record because its not good? i dont
understand. if you were actually a music lover, i think youd be
happy to finally get your hands on a good record that otherwise
you wouldnt pay crazy loot for.
i'm not a music lover. i was just playing. music is for the birds tweet
tweet
i-f is a no-go..
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i should add as far as i hear.. ...if true, i'm still hoping he changes
his mind...
marco passarani half of mat101 will be doing a little usa tour in
mid-may..would be some nice additions to the lineup!
i-f is a no-go..
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unofficially, i've heard novamen and alden tyrell will be there as well...
From: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) dutch stage on demf
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:31:11 +0200
Also the line-up that got published yesterday is published by the
http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html
funn, good
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i think it's easiest to describe detroit techno if you describe the
prototype records and dont worry about how it's evolved and branched off
over the years. ie strings (!), soulfulness, depth, experimentation,
futurism etc etc. you dont have to worry about giving a picture perfect
description.
this sounds really interesting...anyone heard it?
i used to hear fsk on the radio here in chapel hill quite a bit, cool stuff,
but it's been ages.
http://www.diskob.com/c/fsk/db123.html
F.S.K. are still the most invited non-english band to attend Peel-sessions
and are one of the few german
I have to admit that I am UTTERLY obsessed with this track at the moment -
I go into some kind of weird body spasm trance every time I hear it. I also
keep making all my friends listen to it, but they just look at me like I'm
weird
Anyone else get that with tracks sometimes where no one
Iridite 4. I just picked this up when I found a white label sitting around
at Gramaphone, after being impressed by the snippet on the Submerge
website. I just want to say that this record is GREAT. Exactly the kind
of techno record I'm looking for but can never find - well produced, very
also
Discographies - by Jeremy Gilbert and Ewan Pearson (isn' he half of Slam or
something on Soma?)
i showed it to my pop music professor at school and he became interested in
making it part of the curriculum. nice collection of articles rooted in
dance culture focusing on culture and
it's yotoko karma soup off the album last year on delsin...great stuff!
i'm guesing it may have come from a peel seamus mix?
http://homepages.whl.co.nz/~ralf/dp.htm
It came from a mix someone posted here last year...anyone know whose mix it
came from?
Thnaks in advance
but even worse is an extra post pointing out a clearly accidental double
post...blah blah...i dont care. as long as there's more music talk to
balance out the noise...in other words its not the noise thats a problem,
its the lack of a strong signal..
buy the dynarec album. it's out this week.
i could be wrong but i thought deepchord were based out of boston.
i like a lot of deepchord stuff, but i wouldnt put it on the same level as
bc/cr/etc because they are seriously lacking in the bassline department --
great dubby chords and nice beats, but missing lowend...many releases have
no
The synth strings on Do You Know Who You Are sound
classically Detroit to me, with that brittle emotion and
the combination of warmth and coldness that is characteristic
of the feel of early 313 techno. What other old Chicago tracks
can people think of that bridge the Detroit/Chicago gap as
Yamaha DX100. Juan Atkins mentioned using it for bass in a magazine article
solid bass! most popular preset ever?
roland jx8p is a classic too..
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got a copy of new Rotating Assembly CD yesterday, the track orchestral
hall is unbelievable, but i need to listen to the rest of the album
probably a few times more, his soulfulness and jazzy jam-session
character suprised me and i don't get it initially...
yeah the guys from rushhour played
i gotta debate you there.
i haven't heard the whole album but..
kayne west is responsible for the whole chipmunk sample crazy- easily the
worst thing to EVER happen to pop music.
haha what?? yes all trends suck! err something. the worst thing ever to
happen to pop music? easily? were you
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hey thanks for the tip kj!
i grabbed it's all downhill from here off soulseek
and yes this is some _seriously_ prince inspired stuff!...i'm pretty
impressed with it! really happy, poppy, very funky stuff...definitely on the
cheesey side sometimes (hahaha cyber baby) but for those of us who
i'm going senile, who is the dutch guy who put out an album full of ~40
tracks last year? from craziness to dope prince style stuff?
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Im especially fascinated by Orlando Voorn, I heard he won some kind of
World DJ Championship back in the late 80's... Does anyone have a Voorn set
archived? CD-R? I'd really like to hear a set of his!
paging senor bruntonio! he hooked me up with a orlando @ mazzo sethis
skills are
hey jwan, hey arne, hey tom, hey 313
Agreed, my copy came in the mail the other day, Rudiman and I both flipped
over every track. So this record gets the technoiraudio seal of approval
(if that means anything to anyone). My favorite cuts are improv and
l'equipe (spelling) can't wait to drop
Check out on the 430 West website
http://www.430west.com/430westdotcom/site/430main.html
and then info--media--television/film discography
look at all the tracks they have on the Making the video show on MTV
Jennifer Lopez, P.O.D., Nick Carter, Madonna, Jennifer Love Hewitt
now that's
just got a promo this morning..
until my heart stops is gorgeous! classic classic detroit via holland
techno...10+ years old and still fresh for sure!
the b-side kaoz is nice too, less melodic, more swirling percussion and
synth twiddling, nice!
the press release with this record is really
Wasn't this supposed to be released on Delsin to a few years ago?
yeah whatsup with the 154 strike album? that never came out did it? it
says on the delsin website 11/2003 tho..
jt
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Several key members of the MER team are old buddies/former co-workers of
mine. I'd walk over there and bring my Red Planets (Red Atmospheres
from RP-4, anyone?) but I don't think they're equipped to upstream vinyl ;)
bring the cd! but i was thinking more along the lines of the talking rocks
well supposedly ferenc has quit dj'ing now right?
is he going back in the studio?
is he pissed because italo is too popular now?
i heard perspects said in an interview he isnt making music again until the
electro fad dies down. i say make money and build an audience while the
oppurtunity is
?
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004, J. T. wrote:
well supposedly ferenc has quit dj'ing now right?
is he going back in the studio?
is he pissed because italo is too popular now?
i heard perspects said in an interview he isnt making music again until
the
electro fad dies down. i say make money and build
hey kj
In an interview he did with listmember Rebelbass he said that one of the
reasons he quit dj-ing was because his job as a dj was done, italo was no
longer a dirty word and people made it and played it again.
ahh thats much better than the elitist 'italo is too popular' reason, altho
On another note, does anyone of you know what happened to the
globaldarkness forum? I keep getting redirected to a page saying the
backdoor is closed??
just go the main page http://www.globaldarkness.com and enter the forum from
there, update your bookmark. you must be using an old bookmark
hey matt
and about italo being dead, or overblown, what!? pah!!If it ain't dead
yet after 20+ years of weirdo collectors scouring it all.. it's not going
to just up and die anytime soon.. I'd say by comparison, 'glitch' is
rapidly approaching the terminally ill/boring stage, but that's
clarify that: your unqualified opinion.
tom, why are you so pissed? who cares...people can say whatever they
want...i think energy is better spent not arguing over tossed-off
comments...why not stop and try to understand someone else's viewpoint...if
you find no value in it, write it off,
i have no problem with people making valid criticism. i hate
seeing someone who is just being ignorant trying to tear down
something do great like he could do better. pshaw. good luck man.
when's the yearly ATOMLY ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL gonna start
featuring groundbreaking performers from all
oh yeah...that stuff i see in my wallet sometimes...
just karl bartos would be cool tho even.
hey so why cant kraftwerk play? coachella is good enough but not the d??
bitches! :P
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hi folks. over the weekend, i was happy to discover that a platinum
projects label had licensed some $tinkworx trax. the EP consists of
whut, yinmao, and a remix of phrenic's mischa. definitely some quality
tunes here. the record shop owner told me that the original 7 EP on RH
was a bad
I'm looking forward to hearing/grabbing the following;
Juan Atkins 12 on New Religion
so it's coming very soon? cool!
the DKD LP
dkd?
that new Environ 12 thats coming - cant remember what it is
unclassics #3, with the mix done by darshan this time! it's Purple Flash We
Can Make
yeah i was just checking clips of the tony brown earlier today at
submerge..sounds sweet! loads of personality..
i checked the matt dear lp again too while i was there..:P it's good just
not for me.
was fun going thru all those rs classics too..
Me iam feeling this TONY BROWN - Da Gama s
not only is there no real new generation of black techno, but i mean matthew
dear...who cares if he's popular, does it really have any soul or connection
to the character of classic detroit techno? not that i can hear...just
happens to be from detroit..and i mean look at what ends up under the
well that says it about as good as i could.
i wasnt making any statement about race, i was responding to greg earle's
email about what derrick might have meant by his comments about techno being
dead. i put my comments about the soul of detroit techno vs matt dears music
in the form of a
ahhh yess the completely reductive argument, there it is! detroit techno
isnt even a genre its just techno in detroit...
just like i make southern, country music cus i live out in the country and
in the south...yeeehaww
thats only one ingredient in the stew, if its an ingredient at all
earlier this week i spotted the east island record on down low going for $14
in the usa, which is twice what it should be...it had been exported and then
re-imported (there is no need to import) by mistake. and i dont think it was
any greedy motives on anyone's part, just a mistake. luckily it
george benson - good king bad, and the asone so far so good comp
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speaking of pie holes, where is alex bond? you ok alex? i'm worried you got
drunk and rode your bike into a river or something
Pie hole? sorry but I gotta laugh at that..ha ha ha is that like a crusty
one or
a soft one?
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i strongly dislike ableton. it's a good tool for studio style mixing, a
great advance and added flexibility etc, but i still see it as studio style
mixing. it makes mixing a very cerebral process; it's way geeky. and it's
too safe. to me it is at odds with the pleasure of playing and listening
nicely said dennis
When Robert Henke first built the Live prototype as a Max patch, it was for
him to do his own live shows, using his own loops, but with the freedom to
combine and collage (not a verb, I know) on the fly.
exactly! which from my p.o.v., makes it not so hot as a live tool as
there's also a gapless plugin for winamp which makes mp3s play seamlessly.
i assume it just buffers the first few seconds of the next song when it
senses the current one is about to end.
I dont use Ableton, but i have experienced this MP3 silence gap problem,
since i work on Macromedia
Afaik, that is just a common myth-- similar to the myth that says that if a
well it is and it isnt. it does not exempt you from being sued for copyright
infringement, but on the other hand, it does put you a little bit below the
radar, the copyright owner has to go thru the trouble of finding
well yeah the two tracks other than the squirrel bait track do sound
like the classic dbx things, agreed.
i love the squirrel bait track! hilarious name and it does sound like techno
squirrels haha...doesnt sound like old dbx to me either. the other two
tracks do but i like them a lot too. i
Hey, I used to love ismistik.
Someone told me they're doing something else now - I can't remember if it
was on the list.
are they the telle guys? or royskopp or something, can anyone remember?
bjorn torske does stuff for telle doesnt he? he's still around, anyways...
too lazy to look on
re the new dbx, anyone heard it? cant find any samples online yet, but rh
and clone have it..sounds dope from the description!
was just checking some samples of new stuff over at submerge, lotsa goodies!
cool to see they are carrying stuff from a lot of different labels these
days, even some
whyy is track #5 so short. thats one of the most beautiful tracks
i've ever heard.
i heard this album didnt do well in nl and is really easy to find. i guess
its not awesome overall but there are a few really really great songs on.
thanks again jb.
my house smells like cat pee.
nappy roots are great too. like the outkast album, there are some really
great tracks which are straight-beats hiphop with almost techno production.
they are so socially active there is an official nappy roots day in their
home state of kentucky.
I started that thread. It's still my album of
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