I need to get off the list, but there's no link at the bottom of the emails
telling me how to remove myself.
Please reply privately.
Maybe because its sandwichespar duex?
Don't get me wrong, I *did* find the track enjoyable...even though
it offers absolutely nothing that sandwiches didn't. I hope they
haven't decided to become some niche group that strictly does heavy bass
lines with pitched vocals that deal with f
the promotion group has said this gig has been cancelled, because recently
all of sven's gigs in north america were apparently cancelled.
obviously it appears that simply it hasn't been taken down from the site
yet.
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From: "FRED giannelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "/0"
Nope. Don't work at Borders. Worked at Barnes and Noble once. Quit after
two
weeks.
I work somewhere cooler now.
much cooler. Banister books treats him far better.
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This song originally was a concept piece I did about 3 years ago, and never
fully fleshed out as much as I wanted to. At the time I just felt like I
didn't have the skill to do it justice. Now that I felt more confident, I
finished it up. I wanted to capture the feeling of driving in downtown
The reason we're not talkinga bout it is because we're still
recovering/reeling from it.
From: atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) paxahau/kompakt
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:53:21 -0500
I'm pretty damn surprised nobody's been talking about this. The
Paxaahau Five Y
prince 'you got the look.'
c'mon people, that was a walk in the park.
From: Sakari Karipuro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ":: evilgenetix ::" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Track/Accapella ID
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:09:33 +0300 (EEST)
:: evilgenetix :: wrote on Fri,
I'm getting a bucket of popcorn and some mentos. This is going to get good.
From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: (313) the ruins of detroit (racist bullsh.t)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 18:14:50 -0400
so dont look at the text. I posted a warn
And all of this is on topic..oh wait no its not.
Mindlessly talking about a single white label for days is one thing, but now
we're discussing where someone should live and talking about rear ends?
Throw a 'richie hawtin isn't underground anymore' or a 'pop culture is below
m
> well you're there for the music, not to watch anyone do anything.
if i just paid ten bucks you see you i best be getting someone juggling fish
or breaking bricks with their heads.
personally, i don't 'go there' for the music. if i wanted to listen to the
music *I* wanted to listen to, i'd d
just a simple webpage, nothing flashy. this is *most* of my new music, but
not all. feel free to offer up your opinions..
www.datavibe.net/~devolve/
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more specifically, if you aren't, is it worth breaking your balls for?
am I your mother?
>
>
> oh.. it was in jest? oh... my mistake. i take it all back. :D
>
> derek.
>
> ps: could you tell if THAT was in jest or not?
i have 20 bucks on Plaslaiko, unless of course bea arthur enters the fray.
i'd pay 20 bucks to see bea arthur kick plaslaiko's ass. if you saw what
she did to adam beyer you wouldn't be laughing.
From: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: (313) More great rumors I heard
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 12:29:01 -0400
Mike Banks is going
If Britney Spears called me, I'd take her to Taco Bell for a dinner date.
i wonder if she gets free taco bell with her deal with Pepsi. oh, how
dreamy would that be!
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>well that definition beats the "its black music" bullshxt
>that this list normally spews.
yeah. i mean obviously. like R+B is white music because christina
aguilera makes it.
and the award for best segue into a trolling comment goes to..
no really, i love this idea that peoples'
actually this reminds me I started work on a "techno"
track the other night, which is a rarity for me these days,
doing mainly soundscapes and ambient stuff + highly
fuxperimental things.
and the award for best segue into a shameless plug goes to...
>>Brendan >Out of interest, what is *your* definition of techno?
I like UR's definition:
'Techno is a music based in experimentation;
It is sacred to no one race; it has no definitive sound.
It is music for the future of the human race.' - UR
for a bunch of underground guys they were genius
I agree with fred here, also, I pack nearly 500 sounds into my PAs and
although I have an idea of which sounds go best together, I try to avoid
arranging my PAs in any order.
ah. i disagree whole heartedly. i feel too many pa's do it this way, and
it begins to feel like "here's this sound
Maybe techno producers who do live PAs should break down and take a couple
keyboard lessons?
Carl Craig played some live keys when I saw his live PA, I think it was as
Paperclip People.
and i found everytime he touched the keys i got bored. the thing is,
playing full 'live' or not, when you
i really enjoyed everyone efforts on this, and was quite stunned by the
variety given just to one track's samples. creativity will always amaze me.
I think i'll write a trance version and sell it to sony.
but in all seriousness, tristan's original remix was just great (i think
that's a r
hehehe, i already know *exactly* what i'm going to do with this.
From: sean deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) remix THIS
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:10:35 -0500
Hey gang!
Thanks to my good buddy Kent Williams (of Iowa City, Iowa), the parts for
remixing/rewo
I think its time for a 313 topic coup.
Lurkers of the world unite to overthrow on topic conversation.
Its just an email list. Damn.
this topic of being off topic is quite off topic people. can we get back to
tone shifting now?
They advocate it, but at the same time don't want to reveal
their sources for fear of other hip hoppers swiping the same loops or
discovering the secret weapons of their record collection :)
I can't stand the concept that if i bought a record, i therefore have the
right to keep it 'secret.
I have a quirky techno remix of 'shock the monkey' that i'm seriously
considering getting pressed when its mastered. I know that a lot of cut
shops get scared about doing white label nonlegit remixes, but obviously
some of them do it or else there wouldn't be a ton around. any ideas of who
I am NOT trying to start a rumor mill right now, but i DO want some sort of
confirmation before i get angry enough to put my hand through something.
is motor actually closing after labor day?
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Top tunes,
and while it wasn't brilliant mixing, he definitely has an idea how to
>work the crowd's mood with the music.
he had wedding dj syndrome at motor last night. I've never seen john spin
so simple and so horrible before.
John is, and probably always will be, one of my only guilt
unbelivable. i'm sure the new owners are using the property for something
like a gas station or a quick mart, or something that retarded. Its
obviously not a tresor-isn't-doing-good situation if they're planning on
demolishing the entire building that quick.
absolutely tragic. i was planni
All this adds up to me wanting a MAC version. I'll keep buying vinyl, I
love listening to it at home and almost all the music I own in on wax, but
come on, get that heavy record bag off my shoulder and I'm a happy camper.
if i'm correct, finalscratch still runs on the BE operating
i'm speaking in general terms, and you keep speaking in specific terms.
think about that, and only then respond.
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To: "'Jayson B.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] submerge.panel
technology hasn't changed dick. People have simply NEVER been equal. the
haves vs the have-nots has always been there, a
My techno isn't about turning your brain off. I don't think Juan's or
Carl's or Derrick's or Shake's is either
have you heard the model 600 track? Good, catchy, and weaker than any of
hawtin's material.
subjective.
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technology hasn't changed dick. People have simply NEVER been equal. the
haves vs the have-nots has always been there, and in many cases to a worse
degree than it is now. slavery? caste systems? serfs? I'm sure someone
would argue that we're all slaves now to corporations, but life in gene
>that's like saying that any dj's set is pre-programmed by the records in
>his box. if anything, FS makes available to him a far wider range of
>material, including custom edits. it arguably un-programs his sets.
but I read in an interview that Richie was doing earl;ier this year and he
state
Maybe you don't like him as a person, maybe he spit on your grandfather,
maybe he's white, maybe he's not American, maybe you like only people
with hair, and/or maybe he slept with your mom, but you have to respect
what he can accomplish within the context of your reason for liking
techno music.
its not an issue of venue size. its an issue of availible venues. if
anyone knows of another place in detroit where richie can legally throw
that sort of party, and have a bar, i'm sure he'd love to hear about it.
completely understandable. then do what he's done with other parties in the
Planet E's party didn't seem that overpacked to me ... esp. in contrast to
what I've heard of the Minus party this year and last.
i said it last year and i'll say it again this year. I understand that
richie likes smaller venues (unless anyone closer wants to confirm
otherwise), but when
not sure if he played it this year, but possibly Link - 'Amenity'. Link is
actually the Global Communications guys, or at least one of them. it's a
track from 1992, just about impossible to find. one of his favorite
records.
i could've swore this track was done by reload. or maybe are th
so where exactly were commercials?
on big screens next to the stages? or were there monitors everywhere? were
there commercials during the artists' sets? or only in between?
on the mainstage it was betwen artists, with the volume full blast.
on some of the other stages i noticed them being
- Random ass-grabbings on Hart Plaza that I was unwillingly made a part of
by some drunk guy in a mullet.
I'm sorry. Sometimes when i get drunk technobabes make me get all frisky.
next time i'll pick someone else's ass to grab.
- The vast number of commercials that I would've otherwi
Were you goi ng to ask about the plans to charge next year?
god doesn't charge for his events.
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We welcome you to Our international DEMF PARTY SAT MAY 25 , 2002 MOTOR
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The Event will be the Bomb party of the festival
Live Pa Scan 7
i mean no disrespect to this event (looks to be a blast), but have you guys
even thought about space considerations with all those live pa's? That's
Last year I booked my room through priceline for about $50 a night @ the
ren
center.
Has anyone tried this year? If so, what is the going rate and what hotel
did
you get?
the ren cen caught on this year, and noone got rooms for that price again.
I'm pretty certain that you can't book r
oh goody a DJ Twer!
they're talkin about the new mgd tower, the same tower as last year, and the
year before.
and all new heights of dance! if I didnt know better, I would think DEMF
is a big lame trance festival..
if i didn't know better, i would think you were trying to be clever.
Tech-house has been around for a while, at least 5
years or more by that name. It's definately not trance
either. Check out the old records on Central or Grow!
labels for good examples. Although some tech-house
could be called "trancey", its definately not trance.
forgot to add the sarcasm no
That's Louis Osbourne. He's a House Of God resident in Birmingham and
although I haven't heard him play, lots of people really rate him: very
Chicago trax-y in style, apparently. I doubt he goes for 10K, though - he
doesn't trade on his family name (would you?) and of all the HOGers, even
Surg
I remember about a year (or more?) ago, someone posted
something about Ozzy's kid being a dj and costing $10K
plus to book?!? and he plays trance or something?
Sound familiar to anyone?
If so, please tell me it's not that little pant-load
Jack who is on the show. I'm assuming it's Ozzy's
- the information in the pictures on the DEMF-page is currently
transporting
the same conclusion -
and this is wrong information - this is what I was saying
what makes this information wrong? what "facts" do you have to support that
it is wrong?
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> ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in
detroit.
very interesting -
how do you know that ?
what are your facts, making you say this ?
why is it that when someone asks you a question, t
Yes, Richie Hatwin is a serious good artist,
but why is he the "far more popular" one ?
because he's far more accessable, along with his music. because his
ability to market himself and his music FAR surpases anyone else in detroit.
That point in itself is extremely difficult to dispute.
5 out of the 6 pics of dj's on the website are of richie
whitewashing at it's finest
*angry beyond measure*
if it was 5 different white artists, then maybe i can understand. But if
all five are of Richie, then i don't think this is whitewashing in the
SLIGHTEST. Say what you want, b
just tell me this then, why on earth would he call is superfreak?
and i ask, why would he INTENTIONALLY write a track supposedly "exactly"
like a dan bell track, and then swipe the name? If he had ANY sense (which,
regardless of what you think of wink, he has to have some or else he
woul
I am sure there is a lot
of sharing going on (flight and stuff) with DEMF and the Afterparties.
no, there's not. If a promoter signs a dj to a gig exclusively, why would
they share the costs of flight and hotels with another promoter that the dj
isn't supposed to be playing for?
So if
y
who I saw at the
End and Dave got really arsey withn Carl for dropping one more tunre than
he
should of..
does Dave have a problem with EVERYBODY? Seriously, i know he has a rep for
being straightforward and blunt, but he seems like he has a bit of a whiney
streak too.
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> I agree with your point, but think I should jump in and defend Britney -
> "Slave 4 U" was essentially an electro track,
*cough* get on topic *cough*
If i get policed, y'all get policed.
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feedback please this seems high, its more if you want
to play music at your both. go Carol!
same price as it was last year, and *if* i'm correct the same price as it
was the year before. not to mention that's traditionaly what it costs (and
many times more) and other festivals.
go
http://www.myfishbox.com/lawsuit.cfm
It's about a lawsuit concerning petswarehouse.com and the company suing
the individuals and the online bulletin board about comments made.
we have to remember that you can sue ANYONE for anything. If i wanted to, i
could sue for the fact that Rob's name
That argument is just absurd... Are you saying that a skilled musician
can't play good music for one or two hours? I wonder what >Duke
Ellington,
Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Charles Mingus,
all exceptions to the rule. pointing out great artists in this arguement
really isn't a viable
I have a question. Why don't people who do live techno performances >get
the same respect that DJs get?
i think this question is answered pretty easily: dj's can choose records
that are, well, cream of the crop. Live pa's however, have a more
challenging task of WRITING over an hours wor
There's obviously a lot of lazy records around that do rely on sampling an
entire hook. And there's also some really inspired sampling that isn't
obvious at all
THE best song i've ever heard that uses sampling is on tigerbeat 6 records.
I can't remember who did the track (it possibly was k
What's kind of sad about all
the 80s electronic pop stuff (except for the first batch of releases in
this vein and Felix and Miss Kittin's) is that after the fad has
>thoroughly been explore will anyone want to hear this stuff or will it
>sound very dated - like "oh that is so 80s revival from
'Nothing At All' is about the weakest track on there though
(rubbish
> mixes too), so try not to write it off because of that.
good, because i almost burned all of my luke cd's after hearing that track.
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In the new Urb he discusses his latest album which apparently is 80's pop
musicish. what do you guys think of Luke moving in that direction?
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track IDs are on topic
race relations and how atkins wipes his ass is not.
and as i'm sure other people will point out, race relations IN techno and
juan atkins are more on topic than discussing aril's latest release.
but i guess that's a matter of opinion then yes? If some people on
I'm sure everyone feels your pain Giles. As it seems that there only >about
5-10 people "debating" this issue it would be nice if they >argued with
each other privately.
you're totally right. the next time 5-10 discuss a track id for a week
please remind yourselves to respond privately.
this whatsoever. you *are* juan atkins, and i
certainly am not.
3)Since when did a coupla new jack playa haters (Poivrenoir,Yussel,&
>Jayson B,etc.) become the authority on this list as to who is in or >out
of touch with Detroit ?
hehe. new jack playa haters. I have a my newes
Further, I'd say they're inexcusable really. However, I wondered how >those
offensive remarks of Ms Gavoor, invalidated the other stuff >Laura Gavoor
said. Still have yet to get a cogent non-insulting, non inflammatory
response that actually answers that question.
Hi ken! i'm so very glad
It's simply nice to hear you say you actually like Detroit techno and >for
that matter, techno after your unfavourable comments on the same.
I_have_never_once_made_negative_comments_about_techno. Not one single time.
I have made comments about people who find themselves to be techno elite,
Although i have no clue where you're going with this list of pointless
questions, i'll still reply. I hate it when people dismiss my posts as
nonsense and ignore what i'm saying, so i won't do that to you, although its
still a waste of my time.
Do you like Techno?
Of course. I adore tech
I guess I must be speaking another language.
you must be, because the below statement was either translated incorrectly
of the dumbest thing anyone has said on this list (in my humble opinion of
course).
no one called Atkins a "racist" as if any "black" person could ever be.
its kinda
I doubt that Juan would be making racist sounding
> comments. why would you talk shit about the man when you
> can EASILY contact him and hash things out with him? dont
> you think he (or you if you were in his position) would
> prefer that?
in my humble opinion, if i was in his positi
If you think about the georgraphy of the 'incident'
and where it happened, it sounds pretty questionable
to begin with.
I still think that it was pretty tasteless. whoever posted that should be
ashamed.
Gee, now why was it that i thought that 313list was a place for people to
prove to o
Ask Mike Banks how he feels about the 'Jaguar' trancified rip-off act that
Sony perpetrated undermining his record sales
which, once again, doesn't invalidate jeff's point, it only reinforces it:
it was UR's choice NOT to go with sony, and not to sign the deal to make it
big (sony's decis
History is full of starving artists.
which was their choice, which validates jeff's comment.
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Anyone that makes techno can just as easily make trance if
they so choose. If you choose your integrity over money that's you're
choice. It's not the businessman's fault that the result of your choice
does not sell.
i'm dying to see someone argue with this point. fantastic shit jeff!
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Please refrain from using the "N" word. I find this extremely >upsetting
and if you're dropping it for shock value, ok, I'm shocked, >and again
upset. Please please keep the conversation at a level that's >tolerable.
There's no reason to be talking like that.
I find the "f" word just as off
i agree. most of laura's words were spot on.why let a tiny,
inconsequential phrase nullify all the excellent points she made -
>shouldn't you make some allowances for cultural differences between
>Laura's local communication styles and yours.
stupid nigger.
sorry, we use that phrase i
Finally Detroit will be privy to the dj wizardry and production >prowess
that is Sasha and Digweed
god this whole look-how-313-elite-i-can-be contest you all are in is gonna
get old REAL quick today. As soon as i saw the announcement of sasha
digweed comin to detroit, i just waited for the
New issue of URB (March 2002) page 70. Alan has produced a new comic >book
"The Sexy Adventures of Orietta St. Cloud"
i'm surprised it took this long for someone to mention something on this
list (i was going to, but i'm lazy).
the comic book isn't that bad at all. The artwork is FANTAST
some of the top
performers will be regular detroit favorites such as
Lisa Lashes, Judge Jules, Paul Oakenfold and a
performance by 313 favorite, Moby...also a special
rare performance by dubiously named "godfather of
detroit techno"...Cat Stevens!...the master of
ceremony this year will be none
Funny thing is you are all bitching, but none of you are mentioning if >you
are actually downloading it or not ($20 says you are) And how many >of you
are actually going to spend the $299.95 to purchase it?
1. i am not downloading it, nor while i ever. refer to point 2.
2. I actually spent 35
Ableton Live Program
Max download 5 users
Don't hammer it if it's full.
If you download please reply.
although i'm not 100% against software piracy, please remember that ableton
is a VERY small company right now, and live is their first piece of
software, and its a great piece of softwar
why not dig out or go buy or download some
old reese tracks and have a listen.
then listen to some of the recent tunes talked
about on this thread eg mr sliff, dj q, air frog,
drumcode 20.5, diabla and a million others
and see if you can spot any kind of similarity.
I can pull out some alice
"Banging looped techno is cool and it's very macho, but sometimes you've got
to smooth it out for the ladies."
alan, forever the pimp ;-)
needless to say, i'm very excited to hear this new album.
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Damn that's wack...no Mac Version
as joost says, the beos DOES run on a mac. so no, finalscratch doesn't run
on the mac os.
However, to be honest, you don't want to run this system under windows or
mac os ANYWAYS.
one of the most amazing things about the beos is its natural audi
> If anyone managed to make
> something decent with Rebirth, which I doubt...
rebirth is a pretty useful program. with some solid compression, you can
get some pretty pounding rhythms out of it, and if you're imaginative with
your programming, it doesn't need to sound 'classic' anyways.
I saw him live this weekend in toronto at a party i was playing at. I've
heard a couple of his mixes online, but this performance was quite
different. of the mixes i've heard, he was dubby, minimal, and slightly
downtempo. The performance in toronto was 145 bpm+. Although a bit too
planned
Do you like the music? Then what the f~ck does it matter how they go about
bringing it to you.
then what's the point of playing live at all? If the performance side of a
live performance artist doesn't really matter, then all we should have to
bring is a DAT, plug it in to the main board,
This puts the audience much more in the dark in terms of what is >actually
happening on stage but it's just as live nonetheless (and >easier to
setup!).
see, and this is something i actually disagree with. I think it is *very*
important for the audience to recieve visual cues to the music
I would like to state that i totally agree with dale, and he made a very
mature and solid arguement in this post.
If you knew anything about Plus 8 artists,
you would know that every single Live P.A.
by any Plus 8 artist, anywhere, was 100%
23,000. wow, its almost insulting isn't it? I assume that includes a top
of the line laptop as well. how interesting. Amazing how software on
computers can do more and more, and its rapidly getting cheaper, yet this
tag is just SO high. I guess they'll be selling all of TEN of these
system
Just to let you know, friday night brave new waves is playing their live set
from mutek last year.
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it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored.
I've stuck around many times for lengths for dj's that i expected to impress
me. I've seen magda multiple times, on the suggestion of others, because
maybe i felt i missed something the times before. its called havi
it's pretty amazing that you stuck around for 6 hours if you were bored.
I've stuck around many times for lengths for dj's that i expected to impress
me. I've seen magda multiple times, on the suggestion of others, because
maybe i felt i missed something the times before. its called havi
Was that show also carried by NPR?
I could swear that i've heard bits and pieces
of it during late night on one of th NPR/PBS
radio stations in my neck of the woods..
you're thinking of liz copeland. Liz's show is detroit made, and she's
fiercely loyal to detroit music. Her and Clark Warn
I'm just wondering how many of you fantastic people out there ever tune into
Brave new waves. If you don't, i suggest you do sometimes. its 89.9 here
in detroit, and its on from 12am-4am. Avant-garde, minimal, ambient,
underground punk, you name it, patti plays it. So, does anyone have any
Alanis Morissette, Dave Matthews, Moby and Nelly Furtado are among those
scheduled to perform.
what's with moby and nelly furtado? First Area: one, and now this. does he
have a crush on her or something?
;-)
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If it was an off night she had...we all have 'embut I stand by her
skills and selection abilities any day of the week!!
your opinion is your opinion, and i certainly can't argue with it. but i've
seen her more than once, and i've seen the same level of performance each
time. so unles
I hope someone calls the girl up to let her know she's had her first
full-on
313 thread, and that she's already been dissed! That's how she'll know
she's really arrived.
amazing. Just because i didn't praise magda as an amazing dj i'm dissing
her? I said she was AN AVERAGE dj. *in my op
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