--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Copied from Asbury Radio site. While I disagree with Ed that your
position as an elected official keeps you from talking about the 800-
lb gorilla in the room, I will say that Ed is a class act. Again, I
suggest that the
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ocean Township is Asbury Park.
Oakdorf can explain what I mean.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
If it weren't
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The reason Asbury Park lost business in the Past is the way the City was
handle from maintaining public grounds to maintaining the East side West
separted.At the
100% agree with you appojo about that decision being worse than
anything else for AP. Far bigger effect here than anything else
that happened.
What this City could have been if the middle class wasn't gone for
so many years.
Glad to see the middle class is making a comeback.
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-- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com,
docp101@ wrote:Wrong, Tommy tried to stop it more than once Mario
wouldn't stopHinge, Werner, Works for me. Mario and
DFSAVGNY were the originators of thistopic.
Facts from this groups Archives Oct 1 to Nov 2:
The only time I was so-called
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got 8 pages of yellow legal sheets documenting the above.
I'm probably going to regret asking, but...why?
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Keady's campaign included gathering information and listening to the
thoughts and concerns of the people of Asbury Park. Door by door.
Apparently, those people liked what he stood for enough to get him
elected. Keady was elected to represent the interest of the People.
Keady was not elected
Gary,
I also noticed that several weeks ago. I sure hope the original
concept was scrapped. Remember the renderings presented by SOSH
Architects?
Lamp poles shaped like musical notes
Giant Neon martini glasses and shoes on roofs
Fish shaped signs jumping out of facades.
Bizzare color schemes
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Ocean Township is Asbury Park.
Oakdorf can explain what I mean.
How many beers do you still owe me?
Fiorentino missed in that list - saw one this am
True, many gay folks ahe flipped out of AP (or still held)
In reference to NJ
Dave'scomment:
Keady's campaign included gathering information and listening to the
thoughts and concerns of the people of Asbury Park. Door by door.
Apparently, those people liked what he stood for enough to get him
elected.
As Jim knows and asI've said
In reference to Tommy's
comment:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote: I've got 8 pages of yellow legal sheets
documenting the above.I'm probably going to regret asking,
but...why?
To reveal some "False face" as your columnyesterday, ironically,
attempted to
This whole thing against Jim Keady is bullshit.
Attacking him because of the 200 Bloods comment is ridiculous. It may not be
the exact
number, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if there were that many of them in
our town. The
sick thing about all of this is that he's basically being asked to
If there isn't a substantial gang problem in AP, then why are things like this
happening?
This is from Sept. 29 of this year;
FREEHOLD TOWNSHIP Police have identified more than 200 gang members in
Neptune,
Red Bank, Freehold, Long Branch and Asbury Park, and another 200 in the county
jail,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
justifiedright@ wrote:
See that's a problem. People buy multifamily homes turn them into
single family home, what happens to the tenants? They are forced out.
The
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for finding that 200 gan members county wide. NOT 200 BLOOD in
AP. As for the Wonder Bar for Debbie to treat you like she did then
you must have done something.. She is a wonderfulperson and the
Wonder Bar is a great
The first lesson of starting a business (other then a business plan)
Location. Location Location.
I've said it before, I recall meeting with the SBA guys from
Brookdale's outreach program years ago. Location. How much do you
want to make a year vs. what else can you be doing?
Businesses in AP
First off, making a comment like you must have done something is a
joke. I was working at The Wonderbar, doing sound. I'm a complete
professional at my job, and i've been doing it for 30 years.
Her cold attitude began from moment one, and i'm being honest when I
say that if was an unfriendly place
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The original boundaries of the Township stretched from the Shrewsbury
River to the southern tip of Avon-by-the-Sea.
And it was all called Shrewsbury.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
See that's a problem. People buy multifamily homes turn them into
single family home, what happens to the tenants? They are forced out.
They were single family homes. Not chopped up cubicles for warehousing
the less
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They were single family homes. Not chopped up cubicles for
warehousing
Dave
For this and your previous comment You're still one of the smartest
people to post here.
Jack/Hinge
Not suggesting you did anything wrong.
You're probably right about Debbie and the Wonderbar. I for one was
having a great day before I got there. I was just baffled by the
snotty attitude of everybody who worked there that night. I have other
friends who've had similar experiences there, but i'm not a patron,
so who am I to judge?
Surprised Gary didn't Post this.
THE CREATORS OF S.O.A.P. RETURN TO ASBURY
Print ArticleEmail This ArticleRespond To This Article
by Gary Wien
This December, Asbury Park will pay a long overdue tribute to the
creators of the Asbury musical sound. Many of the creators will take
Greetings from Long Branch:
I find it rather interesting how the business community can now beat up
Mr. Keady, because he had the courage to admit there is a gang
prescence in Asbury.
The politicians of the Culture of Corruption deny the negetives and
create unfounded positives, all in a
Ok, and thanks for the sound man comment.
But why are you afraid to reveal who you are?
My real name is Jack, but for years i've been known as Hinge (long story)
I've been living on 1st Ave. for about 8 months, and I love it.
If you've done so much for AP, then why wouldn't you want to reveal who
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't that slang for girlfiend? The N word is out of that league no
coparison. Unless I'm wrong and you know I'm always wrong.
Tom
Let's go. Be even handed now. I am posting below an excerpt from
the
email blast Tom
On Nov 3, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Fred wrote:
x-tad-biggerSurprised Gary didn't Post this./x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger THE CREATORS OF S.O.A.P. RETURN TO ASBURY/x-tad-bigger
Why would I post an article I wrote?
The article is running in the current issue of Upstage Magazine, which is available in
From Wikipedia:
Goombah (sometimes Goomba) is a slang term regional to the New York area used
to
describe an Italian-American. It can be mildly derogatory, but not on the same
level as
dago, guinea or wop.
This slang term probably originates from the Italian word compare (or the
Sicilian
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry I thought you mentioned SOAP a few weeks ago. My mistake.
Why not share it. It's a good thing.
On Nov 3, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Fred wrote:
Surprised Gary didn't Post this.
THE CREATORS OF S.O.A.P. RETURN TO
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unless I'm wrong and you know I'm always wrong.
You can say that again.
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Dear Deputy Mayor Bruno and Councilman Loffredo,
I am contacting both of you because I know that you are proud
Italian-Americans. I have received my weekly email blast from Tom
Gilmour about upcoming events in Asbury Park this week. I am
excerpting the section below from that email which I
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In reference to DeSnide'sDeSlippery's characteristic protest:
DeSnide is very adept at using innuendo:
This is the second year in a row Pallone comes to Asbury to kiss
Barney Frank's ringI don't want to think about where
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw lightgrw@ wrote:
Maybe the money follows the better idea.
As I have written many times - The economic potential of Asbury Park
is being wasted.
Werner
Werner,
I
"But the rendering for Entertainment has the words "New Image To Come" when you click on the picture. Has anyone heard anything about this? Are there new plans to be unveiled or have they officially scrapped the original plans?"that phrase has been there for about a year!! nothing new,
hi everyone,
if anyone knows of someone looking for a nice cheap apt close to cookman, nice house mates, free utilities
please call carmen @ 917-519-4211.
thanks deb walsh 400 asbury ave
also have a nice 1 bedroom in bklyn available
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Once they make the deal with Madison Marquet we will see a lot of
action Dan knows they are for real. But a deal still needs to be a
cut.I just hope the Fish don't try to rape and chase them. With them
still haning
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Once they make the deal with Madison Marquet we will see a lot of
action Dan knows they are for real. But a deal still needs to be a
cut.I just hope the Fish don't try to rape and chase them. With them
still haning
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been called a lot worse.
I think goomba night will atract more people to AP than 200 Blood
Gang Members reside in AP.
Dear Deputy Mayor Bruno and Councilman Loffredo,
I am contacting both of you because I know
Adding to Hinge's findings:
Dan said,
they screwed up GOOMBAH with
GUMBA
This [from "compare"] is first found in the mid 1950s, and seems to
have been popularized by Rocky Graziano, the boxer andactor, on NBC's
The Martha Raye Show.
Find out who titled it "Gumba Night" and
But why won't you answer my question about revealing who you really are?
Are you a superhero in disguise and you don't want to blow your cover?
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard oceanchuck@
wrote:
Once
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I answered that twice, I have a yellow streak down my back. Sorry I'm
waek.
But why won't you answer my question about revealing who you really
are?
Are you a superhero in disguise and you don't want to blow your
cover?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Haven't we had enough of his here, there and everywhere wrath
coming out
of the woodwork?
I want to see how fair treatement is when its from within their own
camp.
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Oh, don't be scared. Nothing to worry about here. If anything, this is one of
the tamer
message boards that i've seen. You want to know what the worst one was? The MB
on
NSYNC.com, which I was unfortunately in charge of for about 6 months. No, i'm
not an
NSYNC fan, I just worked for the
Please spread the word to help Light Of Day !
---
Southside Johnny ( and others) in 2007 calendar benefitting Light of
Day
Guy produced a 15 month calendar and Johnny was gracious to
participate in the project. The calendar runs from Nov 06-January 08
and many bands/ musicians we
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, don't be scared. Nothing to worry about here. If anything, this
is one of the tamer
message boards that i've seen.
He's afraid that city officials and employees will fire him depending
upon what he posts. Nice atmosphere
I disagree. He should not have given out that number unless there are facts to back up. The town is too small in size and 200 would represent a rather large percentage meaning that gang crime is out of control. People have risked everything to create businesses, fix homes etc. This do-gooder
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well spoken.
I disagree. He should not have given out that number unless there
are facts to back up. The town is too small in size and 200 would
represent a rather large percentage meaning that gang crime is
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I disagree. He should not have given out that number unless there
are facts to back up. The town is too small in size and 200 would
represent a rather large percentage meaning that gang crime is out
of control.
I'll say. Funny thing is that somebody told me that nobody reads this message
board, so
what's posted here really doesn't matter.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote:
Oh, don't be scared. Nothing to
Zulima V. Farber, Attorney General
Division of Criminal Justice
Gregory A. Paw, Director
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
July 25, 2006
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION
State Police Office of Public Information
(609) 882-2000
Capt. Al Della Fave ext. 6514
Lt. Gerald Lewis ext. 6516
Sgt. Stephen Jones
Well, while I agree with you on putting out a number without checking the
facts...one
indisputable fact is that we do have gangs in our city. Doesn't matter if there
are 20
members, or 200. Either can cause alot of bad things to happen, and no matter
how many
are physically here at one time,
Wow...good find. It pretty much says everything that needs to be said.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Found this on the web regarding what some perceived to be a negative
story about AP in the NYT.
Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:05 PM
RuthAnn, et al:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow...good find. It pretty much says everything that needs to be said.
And that was 3 years ago! I am focusing on the issue if his impatience
with the redevelopment. I wonder how he feels now. I think I'll have
his email
you'd think 79% of that was written yesterday.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you'd think 79% of that was written yesterday.
Unbelievable. The balls on this guy. I wrote him myself. I may be crude
and rude but I'm never afraid to put my face against my words. Al must
have bought those rose-colored
x-tad-bigger Unbelievable. The balls on this guy. I wrote him myself. I may be crude /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger and rude but I'm never afraid to put my face against my words. Al must /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger have bought those rose-colored glasses in the ensuing years. What a /x-tad-bigger
It's also sad that our excellent police force doesn't get the
recognition they deserve. I think they do a great job. I've seen them
in action quite a few times, and they're professional, courteous and
easy to talk to.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In
Asbury Park, they try to bury you if you discuss crime because they
think you're against the cops.
I think it's more that you might bring bad press to the city. The cops
are doing a great job, but WE need to do more.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw lightgrw@ wrote:
3000 more arrest this over last year they are fighting crime but
violent crimes are hard to predict.
In
Asbury Park, they try to bury you if you
On Nov 3, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Hinge wrote:
x-tad-biggerIt's also sad that our excellent police force doesn't get the/x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger recognition they deserve. I think they do a great job. I've seen them/x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger in action quite a few times, and they're professional,
i think that Asbury could use a good 'ole publicity campaign to show some of
the good
things that are happening here...such as the police force, and the growth of
Cookman.
Sucks that we live in a world so full of negativity. Seems like the media only
thinks we want
to hear about that bad shit
x-tad-bigger I think it's more that you might bring bad press to the city. The cops /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger are doing a great job, but WE need to do more. It's like not admitting /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger you have cancer and blaming the doctor when he tells you. That's a real /x-tad-bigger
After reading these posts about Mr. Keady and hearing some parts of
our lovely radio host refering to it last night, I must say many are
missing the point.
ABC News was here to cover - shootings. The report was going to be
bad. No one could do any kind of covering, ignoring or any other
On Nov 3, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Fred wrote:
x-tad-bigger 3000 more arrest this over last year they are fighting crime but /x-tad-bigger
x-tad-bigger violent crimes are hard to predict.
/x-tad-bigger
See you just proved my point. I was not criticizing the police nor did I say they weren't doing
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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Keady has not yet realized he is no longer some guy with a picket
sign rallying against the man. As a public official, his words
carry weight now. He has a duty to you and me to make sure the
picture of Asbury
I started searching for Tom Gilmour's email address online. I Googled
it and started hitting some links, and a bunch of nudie pictures popped
up (wasn't him - it was a lady).
Goodness but I hate the Internets sometimes!
Does anyone have it so I don't have that happen to me again?
Yahoo!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've done a couple of TV News interviews and what appeared on the
screen was not everything I said. How do you know what, if anything,
was edited out? Do you have the complete interview or only what was
shown?
Point well
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I started searching for Tom Gilmour's email address online. I
Googled
it and started hitting some links, and a bunch of nudie pictures
popped
up (wasn't him - it was a lady).
I hoped you closed your eyes.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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I believe the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.
As it should be. Maybe he is not ready yet to reveal his sources.
Be that
as it may, didn't that one study referenced here today speak of
200
county
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I disagree. He should not have given out that number unless there
are facts to back up. The town is too small in size and 200 would
represent a rather large percentage meaning that gang crime is out of
control.
I have a relative working the M County courts PTI program. They have
their share of good old white collar crimers (Drs, Lawyers and
everyday people) - some with the same problems - or most - drugs. So
you have users and dealers. Like one story I was told - I don't use,
just sell.
nice guy right?
What if the so called mistake JK made was to say 200 Bloods and he really
meant to say
Gang Members?
That being said...don't you think that AP having 200 gang members is a
possibility?
I still think that focusing on this is a waste of time. It's the underlying
problem thats the
problem.
An Asbury Park Quiz Game in Time for
the Weekend
Can You Identify These
Celebrities?
He wanted the opponents
destroyed.
He would defeat them, slaughter them and humiliate
them.
He’s happy to crush the liberal elites inspired by
Kennedy's New Frontier under the steamroller of
Jack it is a matter of venue (triState area) and quantity (one
sentence).
I'll give you 3 sentences. Paint me a balanced picture of Asbury
Park (understanding you are a community leader so your words have
the imprematur of authority and a duty to us all)
What do you come up with.
--- In
As per the State police the State's gang population is 17,000. This
number is gang members and excludes wanna bees. This and more
information was aired tonight on NJN News.
I think some people need to apologise to Jim Keady. Even though he is a
Liberal Progressive.
God be merciful to us all
You want to know how many real gang members in Asbury Park you have?
You arrange for the Baronette Theatre to show the Lord's of Flatbush
You call an absolute TRUCE and provide sincere promises that there
will be no police retaliation.
You have discreet and plain clothes police presence.
You
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Although I was not present at Wednesday nights council meeting the comments
that were made by Jim Grabe was outrageous. How indecent of you to tell the
Deputy Mayor to go kiss his dead mothers ass along with the other comments
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Although I was not present at Wednesday nights council meeting the comments
that were made by Jim Grabe was outrageous. How indecent of you to tell the
Deputy Mayor to go kiss his dead mothers ass along with the other comments
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your
comment:
I think some people need to apologise to
Jim Keady. Even though he is a Liberal
Progressive.
Like Christ, eh?Original
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[AsburyPark] Gang Numbers Statewide Growing by leaps
phase 2, although its not where the sign of phase 2 is located. west upward on cookman ave, are they planned to be the same as the cookmanside units that are already done? did anyone else notice they faux aged a few buildings on the top floor facing west on cookman. there is a "blocked out
the fact that lake ave got cut off is bad, it doesnt even look right. however, to make a situation that is already done, and most likely not be changed back to the way it was, lets look at it from a positive side. instead of what seems to be the norm to bash something for all its worth (which
the sidewalks on ocean ave are not smaller then they were, at least not everywhere. the sidewalks behind the empress hotel. before, werent they somewhat small, with grass between the walk and road?? now the sidewalk goes straight to the road, eliminating the grassy area once before, with
Click
here: No Land Grab: TONIGHT: New York Voices, "The Battle for Brooklyn"
WNET, Thirteen.org
Rafael Pi Roman looks at the bitter fight over the Atlantic Yards plan,
including interviews with City Council Member Letitia James, and Empire State
Development Chairman Charles
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_Click here: No Land Grab: TONIGHT: New York Voices, The Battle for
Brooklyn_
(http://www.nolandgrab.org/archives/2006/10/tonight_new_yor.html)
I have a couple of asignments in that. Ratner (developer) paid a
premium to all of
Hello
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your
comment:
I have a couple of asignments in that.
Any thoughts on the effectiveness of the related web site?
Develop Don't Destroy Brooklyn
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Although I was not present at Wednesday nights council meeting the comments
that were made by Jim Grabe was outrageous. How indecent of you to tell the
Deputy Mayor to go kiss his dead mothers ass along with the other comments
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any thoughts on the effectiveness of the related web site?
_Develop Don't Destroy Brooklyn_ (http://dddb.net/php/aboutdddb.php)
The No Land Grab and associated sites had alot of my stuff on there
with regard to the battle for
Tom
We corresponded by email about this and you said I could bet my sweet
ass you were going to complain. You have to do it here publicly as well
as directly to the city. Both the city and Asbury Partners gets it from
you with both barrles. Don't pull any punches. I also expect to see it
on
All he has to do is say where he is getting that information from
- Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, November 3, 2006 1:05:20 PMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady Inconvenient Truth(s) Nero Sleeps While Rome Burns
--- In
I am not for sugar coating the truth but I am for the truth. If Larry Fishman went on the news and say the development is well underway how many posts would be on this board bitching and moaning? Yes there are buildings going up but not 200.
I am well aware that gangs are all over. That is not
So when he is chased out of Asbury he can go to Alabama
- Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, November 3, 2006 1:07:53 PMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady Inconvenient Truth(s)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson
You should be demanding the truth and for him to state his sources. Not lame excuses
I bet at this moment he (JK)is positing to Wikipedia over and over so he can then post the result as justification..
- Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
Dan,
In reference to that "Gumba"bet
Tommy made with you:
Tom,We corresponded by email
about this and you said I could bet my sweet ass you were going to complain
[about Gumba Night]. You have to do it here publicly as well as directly to
the city. Both the city and Asbury
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