Re: vpn client termination on router, with split-tunnel [7:75147]

2003-09-09 Thread nrf
Sure You will need to be running IOS 12.2(8)T or above. bk wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, I am trying to terminate a vpn tunnel on a 3640 for clients (4.x). I have done it on a pix with split-tunnel. Can the 3640 be setup to perform split-tunnel? **Please support

Re: IS-IS [7:74508]

2003-09-02 Thread nrf
Chuck Whose Road is Ever Shorter wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nrf wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The simple answer is that yes, ISIS is a possible topic for the R/S exam. The better question to ask is why? The R/S is supposed to be an enterprise-networking oriented

Re: PIX Firewal Software Version [7:73894]

2003-09-02 Thread nrf
Deepali S wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi , I would suggest you to use PIX 6.2 software rather than 6.3.1 , since this has a lot of BUGs , you can download the latest PIX software version 6.3.2 Do not even think of trying to run 6.3.2. Go ahead, try to get 6.3.2 from cco right

Re: IS-IS [7:74508]

2003-09-01 Thread nrf
The simple answer is that yes, ISIS is a possible topic for the R/S exam. The better question to ask is why? The R/S is supposed to be an enterprise-networking oriented exam. Those who are interested in carrier routing where ISIS is most commonly found should be looking at the C/S. Let's face

Re: Catalyst 4506 - Which Supervisor card? [7:72156]

2003-07-12 Thread nrf
Ken Diliberto wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] With the Sup IV, you could use the 4507R chassis and have the ability to use redundant supervisors in the future. I think the switching speed of the Sup IV is faster and you can do L3 as well. Things the Sup II can't do. Uh, I think

Re: number of CCIE [7:70151]

2003-06-07 Thread nrf nrf
Man, I never see a job post specify that certain CCIE number is prefer. I have, many times. For example, just check out the archives at groupstudy.jobs. Why did you even bother to ask this question in the beginning, if you think the value of CCIE title has drop. Huh? I didn't ask

Re: CCIE voice written and lab [7:66948]

2003-04-05 Thread nrf
supernet wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have 3 questions regarding CCIE voice: 1. I took beta written test today and was told that I can expect a result in 6-8 weeks. Does it really take that long? How do they contact me? I only provided my SSN and name before the test.

Re: A career in MPLS..... [7:66609]

2003-04-02 Thread nrf
and cons of MPLS and where I think it fits - but that's another boring story for later :) www.ccie4u.comOn 1 Apr 2003 at 15:47, nrf wrote:Cisco Nuts wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Hello group, How does one feel about a career in MPLS...I mean doing MPLSas part of your

Re: CCIE Vs. Linux engineer (not Ph.d) [7:66669]

2003-04-02 Thread nrf
Mic shoeps wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you all folks. I don't know much about Linux. But I would like to use the analogy that Cisco engineers are like traffic officers in major intersections in a city and Linux (Lexus), Microsoft (Mercedes), Solaris (Saab), Visual+ (Volvo)

Re: CCIE Vs. Linux engineer (not Ph.d) [7:66669]

2003-04-02 Thread nrf
Linux is very difficult to learn really well. True, CCIE lab equipment is expensive, but I think it may take less time for some people to become a CCIE than to get the kind of facility with Linux that the Linux-guru jobs require. I think a far bigger problem with choosing Linux as a

Re: A career in MPLS..... [7:66609]

2003-04-01 Thread nrf
Cisco Nuts wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello group, How does one feel about a career in MPLS...I mean doing MPLS as part of your core job day in and out.Is it worth it? Since our network does not use MPLS (maybe never will) inspite of being one of the Big Four Tier 1 SP's

Re: A career in MPLS..... [7:66609]

2003-04-01 Thread nrf
answered. Is nrf saying not to advance in this field by studying Cisco's way of emphasising MPLS ? What I said is that if you want to advance in that field, you will need substantially more than what Cisco wants you to know about it. Read my post again. You know, we all have our doubts, he's

Re: A career in MPLS..... [7:66609]

2003-04-01 Thread nrf
a lot while achieving those CCXX goals. Anyway, I'm sure there will be a good response coming, so let me be done with this subject. I had an early start today and I'm tired now. Good night ! nrf wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Henry D. wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: A career in MPLS..... [7:66609]

2003-04-01 Thread nrf
accordingly. This is similar to the BCMSN course material which also has problems with dated material. I mean, why emphasize MLS so much when all of Cisco's modern L3 switching gear uses CEF? Priscilla nrf wrote: Henry D. wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't mean to start

Re: Call Manager [7:66120]

2003-03-25 Thread nrf
Uh, I don't wanna be rude, but it is not really the purpose of this NG to give you free consulting advice. If you have a specific technical question that you can't solve after proper research, then by all means come here and ask it. But if you just want somebody to do your job for you, hire one

Re: Need help - Security Vs Communications and Services [7:65966]

2003-03-21 Thread nrf
Fundas wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am CCIE in RS. Thinking of appearing for another track. I know several of you have CCIE in multiple tracks Can you suggest me which one of Security Vs Communications and Services is better w.r.t 1. Equipment needed for preparation.

Re: Why did Cisco do this? Off Topic [7:65834]

2003-03-20 Thread nrf
The Long and Winding Road wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Elijah Savage wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco buys Linksys. http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/?story=NewsStory/BW/20030320/a 5141_1048177983.varp=CSCO Note that Cisco will continue with the

Re: Anyone configured nat under tunnel [7:65843]

2003-03-20 Thread nrf
Ben W wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem with doing standby track tunnel is quite often, the tunnel interface doesn't go down. I had the same question awhile back when I was configuring HSRP and i found out that the tunnel interfaces would stay up, up, even though traffic

Re: PIX Questions [7:65806]

2003-03-20 Thread nrf
Ben W wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The PIX is not a router, however it does have a routing table and can participate in a limited fashion in certain routing protocols, like RIP. I'm afraid I have to disagree. The Pix is a router. Basically, any device that will forward packets

Re: Off Topic - CCIE Certification Junkies [7:65499]

2003-03-16 Thread nrf
and well-known, what is there? Not much. The CISSP and all the SANS stuff is not hands-on. And, as I'm sure we would all agree, paper exams are usually not worth the paper they're printed on. Original Message - From: Will Gragido To: 'nrf' ; Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:31 PM Subject

Re: Off Topic - CCIE Certification Junkies [7:65499]

2003-03-15 Thread nrf
a chance of ever matching. 3) When will the CCIE become just another useless cert in the long history of useless networking certs? I think Cisco should just make a brand new cert that sits on top of the CCIE. NRF - you out there tonight? Something on your mind? -- TANSTAAFL

Re: Off Topic - CCIE Certification Junkies [7:65499]

2003-03-15 Thread nrf
will be the first quadruple CCIE? 2) Does Cisco still recognize the Design, WAN, and IBM CCIE's as valid certifications, making it possible to have more than four? 3) When will the CCIE become just another useless cert in the long history of useless networking certs? NRF - you out there tonight

Re: CCIE [7:65426]

2003-03-14 Thread nrf
Ah, so I see somebody is familiar with Hugh Gallagher's infamous essay. http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blbyol3.htm - Original Message - From: Juan Blanco To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 6:34 AM Subject: CCIE [7:65426] Team, I got this from a friend but I not sure

Re: Internet phone, is it possible? [7:65123]

2003-03-13 Thread nrf
Vance Krier wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, there's quite a few vendors already doing this. One that I found to be quite impressive was vonage.com. They've got it figured out. I'm actually testing out their service for long distance service at my office. They give you an

Re: Internet phone, is it possible? [7:65123]

2003-03-13 Thread nrf
yeah, different assumptions mean different results. A couple three years ago I was working at Well Known Clothing manufacturer in San Francisco. The folks there were working hard to get VoIP toll bypass going between HQ and their manufacturing plants in the far east. The number I heard was

Re: Internet phone, is it possible? [7:65123]

2003-03-12 Thread nrf
The Long and Winding Road wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] supernet wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend of mine wants to establish a business that use internet to make phone calls. He wants to set up PSTN gateways in some countries and sell IP phones to high speed

Re: Layer 3 MPLS VPN Questions [7:64770]

2003-03-07 Thread nrf
John Neiberger wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm at the early stages of considering migrating away from a point-to-point frame relay network to a layer 3 MPLS-based private network and I have a couple of questions based on some preliminary verbal information. I was told that no

Re: IP Telephony SIP [7:64433]

2003-03-06 Thread nrf
enhancements are being used to reduce latency with call setup and floor control during a session that ironicly are not SIP based i.e. using the RTP stream for control functions and some fancy buffering to improve the user experience. - Original Message - From: nrf To: Sent: Wednesday, March

Re: New Voice CCIE [7:64620]

2003-03-06 Thread nrf
The Long and Winding Road wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DAve Diaz wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] how are you supposed to prepare for this buty all that equipment no thanks there would be a distinct advantage to substantial hands on experience. maybe this marks the

Re: New Voice CCIE [7:64620]

2003-03-06 Thread nrf
into a commodity every day. DFW is probably really bad because of the crushed telcos, and I can imagine that Virginia ain't too hot either - after all, NorVir is ISP Central, and ISP's have been slashing jobs left and right. -Mark -Original Message- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: IP Telephony SIP [7:64433]

2003-03-05 Thread nrf
both have sections on SIP or goto to Cisco's website and search for SIP. David nrf wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] supernet wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone kindly enough tell me why SIP is better than CCM? What's the main difference between this two

Re: Cisco Advertising [7:64561]

2003-03-05 Thread nrf
Richard Burdette wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone else noticed the increase in Cisco advertising over the last week or so? I'm seeing a TV add almost everyday. Could this be the result of Cisco possibly having some statistics leading them to believe an increase in IT

Re: IP Telephony SIP [7:64433]

2003-03-05 Thread nrf
? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nrf Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IP Telephony SIP [7:64433] supernet wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone kindly enough tell me why SIP is better

Re: IP Telephony SIP [7:64433]

2003-03-04 Thread nrf
supernet wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone kindly enough tell me why SIP is better than CCM? What's the main difference between this two? Is there any SIP in production? Thanks. Yoshi You shouldn't compare SIP and CCM. SIP is an industry standard, whereas CCM is a Cisco

Re: CCIE Security Lab [7:17848]

2003-02-25 Thread nrf
ride the same fiber and if it's cut and you don have another connection it won't matter if your voice/data/internet you'll be down. And yes Verison did an amazing job of keeping what they had together while they rebuilt the rest... -Geoff -Geoff nrf wrote: Actually that is not what I

Re: CCIE Security Lab [7:17848]

2003-02-24 Thread nrf
power and a satellite connection. -Geoff nrf wrote: Buggy/unreliable software is indeed the same anywhere. But when combined with buggy/unreliable OS's, now we're talking about a solution that is REALLY buggy and unreliable. For example, if your software is only guaranteed to run at 3 9

Re: ISS Real Secure Vs Cisco IDS [7:63461]

2003-02-21 Thread nrf
Sean Kim wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello all, My company is thinking about installing an IDS (dedicated appliance type) for our network. As far as I know, the Real Secure and the Cisco IDS are two biggest names out there. Actually, the biggest name of

Re: Distribute-list and OSPF [7:63144]

2003-02-17 Thread nrf
The Long and Winding Road wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Debbie Westall wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Just a thought, but how about when redistributing the routes to the other protocol using a route-map at the end and

Re: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread nrf
Cisco Nuts wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ooops!! It should be my pant ;- I did not mean anyone to violate the dreaded NDA. My question should have read: is DVMRP a part of the CCIE topics for the Lab? The reason is that I see a lot of DVMRP material in

Re: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread nrf
David C Prall wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think I can answer this one without violating NDA. MOSPF is not covered in the lab because Cisco has chosen not to support MOSPF in IOS. Surely you would agree that it is not easy to test something in the lab

Re: CCIE Self-Employment [7:62394]

2003-02-03 Thread nrf
From what I've seen, you can still get very high rates. The problem is that in order to get those kind of rates, you either have to be very well connected, have a big name (far beyond what a CCIE could ever give you - for example, Dr. Vint Cerf could easily command a princely rate, but of course

Re: Cisco 2501 dot1q encapsulation ? [7:60699]

2003-01-09 Thread nrf
Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I dont believe so either, since they only support a 10BT ethernet connection... It is correct that the 2500 does not support trunking (at least, not yet). But I don't know that the fact that they only support 10bt

Re: Multiple ABR for a particular Area? [7:60654]

2003-01-09 Thread nrf
I certainly hope so. If you're only allowed one ABR per area, then when that ABR fails, that area is totally cut off. It would mean that every ABR in your network would be a single point of failure, and would basically mean that nobody would ever use OSPF. Peri Sophos wrote in message [EMAIL

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-07 Thread nrf
Cisco Nuts wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Very well said!! As I ALWAYS tell my students: You can go to any school (including Harvard) and you can be assured that you WILL pass the exams with a A, B, C or a D grade if you study the material. The CCIE Lab -

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-07 Thread nrf
Thomas wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have heard these stories for years now. They always start with ... I knew a guy who knew a guy that was a CCIE and he didn't know this or he didn't know that. We all know what knowledge, skills, dedication, focus,

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-07 Thread nrf
The Long and Winding Road wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... snip BTW, I do consider this a fundamentally silly discussion, but I think it's somewhat relevant for newbies to know

OT - Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:60347]

2003-01-06 Thread nrf
Let me add one more thing. What Larry failed to mention is that if you packed together all the non-grads in the world, you would find that most of them turn out to be losers too. In fact, I would strongly suspect that the percentage of 'losers' in that group of people will be significantly

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:60347]

2003-01-06 Thread nrf
Yet very strangely that while Larry Ellison dismisses the value of college, the entire executive ranks at Oracle (except himself) are all graduates. Larry could have hired whoever he wanted, so why isn't every manager at Oracle a dropout? So apparently even he doesn't think the degree is

Re: Profession Cert or PhD!!! [7:60385]

2003-01-05 Thread nrf
Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dr. Jimmy, :-) If I could get someone to pay for my Ph.D., I would go for it! pH would definitely have more clout than CCNP/CCDP! Whether or not it would be easy to find a position that requires a Ph.D. in

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-04 Thread nrf
Geoff Zinderdine wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... For the record, I studied and practiced hard, and passed the CCIE lab with precious little industry experience. I found a great job in a great company within two months of passing the CCIE Lab, and I had a few

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-04 Thread nrf
Geoff Zinderdine wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Uh, sounds curiously like a case of sour grapes. Guys who are at the top of the business world make more money in a week than we make in a year. More to the point, in my experience, it's always better to be the

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-04 Thread nrf
Geoff Zinderdine wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... But on the other hand, even you agree that there are a lot of people (not just Americans, but a lot of people in the world) who want money. For some of these people, it is precisely money that brings them

Re: MBA/CPA/JD vs CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree vs Heisman Trophy vs [7:60319]

2003-01-04 Thread nrf
I think an agenda is emerging here, nrf. This thread seemed, at least to me, to deal with the merits of academia, certification, or combinations to move into technical jobs. I completely disagree with the insinuation that I have solely been moving the discussion in any direction. If anything

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-04 Thread nrf
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 11:12 PM + 1/4/03, nrf wrote: So if it's doing public good that concerns you, then the more successful you are, the more you have to give. Let's face it - it's not going to be easy t

Re: MBA/CPA/JD vs CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree vs Heisman Trophy vs [7:60324]

2003-01-04 Thread nrf
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think an agenda is emerging here, nrf. This thread seemed, at least to me, to deal with the merits of academia, certification, or combinations to move into technical jobs. I completely

Re: WHY CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree discussion is bro [7:60231]

2003-01-03 Thread nrf
erything and therefore don't need to continue learning. A couple of personal observations: I have no interest in getting into top corporate management, but I have and will be in senior technology management. nrf, it seems, distinguishes simply between management and non-management. In Cisco's case,

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-03 Thread nrf
facility with a given subject matter that I fear I may never experience again (unless I go for a second CCIE). It is not rocket science, but you have to execute VERY well. As for nrf, - his contributions to groupstudy have been almost entirely negative. While it is helpful to have some di

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-03 Thread nrf
Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thomas Larus wrote: snip As for nrf, - his contributions to groupstudy have been almost entirely negative. While it is helpful to have some discussion of things like the job market and the

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2003-01-02 Thread nrf
l0stbyte wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ladrach, Daniel E. wrote: I have an MIS degree from The Ohio State University Max Fisher College of Business. I see some posts out there saying that a CS degree is no more than a vocational degree. Obviously this

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2003-01-02 Thread nrf
Geoff Zinderdine wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I understand everything you said, and I agree that college coursework should modernize, but I think you may be missing the point of a college education. The point of a college education is not to prepare you

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2003-01-02 Thread nrf
Jim Newton wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have taken all of the classes listed below while in the engineering school at University of Wisconsin. I know that there was not one of them that demanded the attention to detail and total commitment that was required

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-02 Thread nrf
*sigh* one of the classic complaints of interns is how they were told don't worry about the details--learn the concepts. Now, facing a cardiac arrest, how many milliliters of what concept do they need to inject? Yet at the same time we have the opposite phenomena - guys who can configure

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2003-01-02 Thread nrf
Uh, this does not follow. How many CCIE's really really understand, say, BGP or OSPF? No, not just how to configure it, but how it really actually works. Give you an example - I would be hard pressed to find a lot of CCIE's who can explain to me how Dijkstra really works. Some can, but I

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481]

2003-01-02 Thread nrf
Yet I doubt that John Chambers ever read an RFC before in his life. But let's face it. Let's be totally and completely honest. I know this might come across as a low-blow, but at the end of the day, who really has more influence on the direction of the networking industry - the best CCIE in

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2003-01-01 Thread nrf
Ok, I've been following this thread for a while now. I'm a student currently working on my BS in Computer Engineering and I'll only be on my soap box for a few minutes here. Colleges used to be on the bleeding edge of technology and now they aren't anymore. I'm a network security engineer

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2003-01-01 Thread nrf
Andrew Dorsett wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, nrf wrote: updated. But I look askance at demands that colleges transform themselves into glorified vocational schools. If all they're doing is teaching the technology

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2002-12-31 Thread nrf
Carroll Kong wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You are correct. For most people, I think acquiring a PhD is more resources and time consumed than becoming a CCIE. Now, not to belittle the CCIE, it is still probably one of the hardest lab examinations in the IT

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2002-12-30 Thread nrf
bergenpeak wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Interesting question. Some thoughts from someone that does have a PhD in CS (dissertation in networking, a dozen or so publications, a handful in IEEE journals). I initially went into gradual school to teach and do

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2002-12-23 Thread nrf
Pcasey wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Interesting question, but I think the question of which is tougher and which is more valuable get confused. As someone who has an MBA from a top school, I know that it took several thousand of hours of work and an estimated

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2002-12-21 Thread nrf
The thing about comparing degrees to certs is that they aren't totally comparable because they serve different purposes. The degree is designed to teach you general knowledge - basically to teach you how to think. Let's face it. The vast majority of college graduate use very little of what they

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2002-12-19 Thread nrf
Steve Dispensa wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I've been arguing with a collegue of mine which one would be tougher to achieve. I told him that it would be much more harder to have a computer science or a networking degree (you have to take the GRE and complete

Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2002-12-19 Thread nrf
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... That is a very interesting question for me; Yestarday I went for a lunch with a friend that got his MS on Economy, and I asked him: - What do you think it would be better? Either use my time and energy to get certificate or go

Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking future? [7:59553]

2002-12-19 Thread nrf
Jarett nrf wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A few points: When I was fresh in the IT industry (over 20 years ago) the old-timers who had been working

Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking future? [7:59459]

2002-12-18 Thread nrf
Definitely. Janitors now use vacuum-cleaners as well as brooms. Telephone operators now use keyboards, not patchcords. Networkers will need to know more than just layers 2 and 3. But there will be a continued demand for R/S as part of the networkers job. I think you just said the key word

Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking [7:59390]

2002-12-18 Thread nrf
Aaron Ajello wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... IMHO, comparing COBOL and mainframes to networking as a valuable, marketable skill set doesn't follow. COBOL was replaced by VB, C++, ASP and other languages. Mainframes were replaced by things like Windows, UNIX and

Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking future? [7:59390]

2002-12-17 Thread nrf
Marc Thach Xuan Ky wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A few points: When I was fresh in the IT industry (over 20 years ago) the old-timers who had been working maybe four years already would tell me that there was no future in programming, after all they said, who

Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking future? [7:59302]

2002-12-16 Thread nrf
CL: OTOH, there are plenty of guys driving around in their trucks doing just that. I don't know the typical annual income for Joe the plumber or Bill the electrician ( and just so the PC people don't get on my case, I have yet to meet Mary or Jill in those lines of business ) but I believe

Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking future? [7:59347]

2002-12-16 Thread nrf
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Perhaps your most important point is at the end, but I'd like to amplify on it. The idea of a converged public Internet is probably not achievable. I prefer to call service providers that move packets IP Service

Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking future? [7:59245]

2002-12-15 Thread nrf
The Long and Winding Road wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... right up NRF's alley. Certainly for those considering their futures, something worth considering as part of the mix. http://cookreport.com/11.10.shtml Can't afford the un-snipped version right now, but

Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking future? [7:59262]

2002-12-15 Thread nrf
Henry D. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Since we're just throwing out our thoughts here... I tend to disagree, following your logic, if the IP network becomes such a commodity, I think this would just create more jobs for people like us, I mean R/S guys.

Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking future? [7:59275]

2002-12-15 Thread nrf
dre wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... nrf wrote in message ... The biggest problem with broadband? Simple. There is no mass-market app that actually requires broadband. Most people are perfectly happy with dial. After all, what do they do on the

Re: callmanager 3.3 [7:59160]

2002-12-12 Thread nrf
Nah, not yet. Soon. supernet wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Several months ago, Cisco TAC told me that CallManager 3.3 would be released in Nov. this year. Is it out yet? I don't see it in Cisco download area. Thanks. Message Posted at:

Re: Hello (long response) [7:58843]

2002-12-09 Thread nrf
While I disagree with the harshness of Adrian's posting, I have to say that I do agree with the crux of his argument. No - not the part about firing people before Christmas. The part I have to say that I absolutely agree with him about is that people who just know R/S and only R/S really do need

Re: Enterprise technologies [7:58493]

2002-12-05 Thread nrf
dre wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... nrf wrote in message.. What ATM did was simple. It gave customers a circuit that was almost good as leased while still providing for multiplexing, and the cost-savings associated with that, to the provider.

Re: Ccie is a rip off! [7:58458]

2002-12-04 Thread nrf
wexo la wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have no doubt this is not the cetification! I am just saying it is not testing you on your experties or knowledge! You are correct to say that the CCIE written exam, at least in the past, had some serious problems. I,

Re: Enterprise technologies [7:58493]

2002-12-04 Thread nrf
dre wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote I may be starting a new project doing some writing about technologies used in enterprise networks. (read not service provider) Do I need to cover IS-IS? Or is it mainly ISPs that use this?

Re: Enterprise technologies [7:58493]

2002-12-04 Thread nrf
dre wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... nrf wrote in message.. ISIS has more tuning parameters and more extensibility than OSPF. It also has significantly more scalability than OSPF. I dislike EIGRP precisely because it's inner-workings are closed.

Re: Question on CCIE lab equipment? [7:58414]

2002-12-03 Thread nrf
bill cisco-guy wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Would be nice to know but I doubt you will get a answer since you then know what they can and can't test on. Only one for sure is token ring. They said no token ring after nov 4 so why would they have a interface

Re: Is there any switch capable of assigning IP addres [7:58233]

2002-11-27 Thread nrf
Oliver Hensel wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi. I'd simply use secured switchports fixed to one MAC address and a DHCP server which gives out IP addresses based on MAC address. You could also use static ARP entries (this would need to be done to all the

Re: UPDATE: Is it worth it to pursue CCIE RS and CCIE [7:58015]

2002-11-24 Thread nrf
adrian jones wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... All, I am happy to report that my luck has changed for the better. Yesterday (Saturday), I had an interview with a manager of a tech consulting company which I find kinda strange; however, I was told that the

Re: CCIE requirement: full time networking? [7:57936]

2002-11-23 Thread nrf
I would argue that while the CCIE lab itself does not require a job that consists of 100% networking (heck, some guys have passed the lab without ever touching a production network before in their life), the main reason for most people to try the lab - which is to get a high-level networking job -

Re: Is it worth it to pursue CCIE RS and CCIE Security [7:57920]

2002-11-22 Thread nrf
That makes me question myself whether if it is worth it to pursue the CCIE RS and CCIE Security given the market condition. These guys have years of experiences and certified and are without jobs. I would have virtually no chance with people like them even if I am CCIE certified.

Re: IGRP as proprietary? [7:57603]

2002-11-20 Thread nrf
Router_10(config)#router ? bgp Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) egp Exterior Gateway Protocol (EGP) eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP) igrp Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (IGRP) isis ISO IS-IS iso-igrp IGRP for OSI networks

Re: GRE on PIX and Concentrators [7:57729]

2002-11-19 Thread nrf
Curious wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... PIX supports GRE, i have setup GRE tunnel between my 2 sites. Here is link which might helps you. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk367/technologies_configuration_examp le09186a00800a43f6.shtml I don't know that

Re: Block MSN Messenger [7:57595]

2002-11-18 Thread nrf
Not to mention that msn mesgr can conceal itself using port80 packets. Josh Green wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It is possible, however Messenger uses so many different ports on so many different servers that it's not worth your time. -Original

Re: PIX and USB ports [7:56862]

2002-11-04 Thread nrf
Ryan Finnesey wrote in message news:200211050237.CAA19680;groupstudy.com... What would be a good way to manage the IX remotely ? Get yourself a terminal server and set up out-of-band management to that terminal server. Ryan, Greg Owens wrote: It is for future use. -Original

Re: MPLS on low-end hardware [7:56487]

2002-10-29 Thread nrf
Michael Vasilenko wrote in message news:200210292058.UAA00599;groupstudy.com... Hello! One question - is it possible to run MPLS (edge or LSR) on 26xx? Any experience? Right IOS? Sure, it's just flaky. And not surprisingly MPLS is not officially supported by Cisco on 26xx's, so if you are

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55630]

2002-10-15 Thread nrf
Why, the biggest one of all - Worldcom. bergenpeak wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Lets make this discussion real. What major ISPs actually use 1918 addresses on their physical interfaces? I know ATT (7018) does not. nrf wrote: Symon Thurlo

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55638]

2002-10-15 Thread nrf
ets make this discussion real. What major ISPs actually use 1918 addresses on their physical interfaces? I know ATT (7018) does not. nrf wrote: Symon Thurlow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, I would view an ISP who uses 1918 addresses in thei

Re: can I use a /31 subnet to the link between 2 routers eth [7:55593]

2002-10-14 Thread nrf
Symon Thurlow wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well, I would view an ISP who uses 1918 addresses in their public network a little warily. Traceroute etc are pretty fundamental problem solving tools IMHO Well then I suppose that means you would be suspicious of

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