, maybe you could consider 4500/4700M+
with NP-4Ts,
4500/4700 has more horsepower than 2522/2523...
Wilson
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject: RE: Frame Relay Switch [7:75019]
Hi Larry,
I want to connect 8 port for a LAB
You can use the routers back to back with the v.35 cables..CCO has
A write-up on back-back frame connections..or buy an 8 port serial
Router...
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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You can use the routers back to back with the v.35 cables..CCO has
A write-up on back-back frame connections..or buy an 8 port serial
Router...
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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, maybe you could consider 4500/4700M+
with NP-4Ts,
4500/4700 has more horsepower than 2522/2523...
Wilson
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From: Devraj, Prem
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:49 PM
Subject: RE: Frame Relay Switch [7:75019]
Hi Larry,
I want to connect 8 port for a LAB
was just wondering if anyone has any better ideas then
buying this 2522
Thanks
prem
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You can use the routers back to back
If you want to do more than j/a frame switch, than a 7000 would be ideal.
Fast ethernet, atm, and frame-relay switch all in one.
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Hi Larry,
I want
I share my idea with you blow:
Please application 2 ISDN lines and buy 2 ISDN modems, in china, you only
need to pay RMB 50 per month for the lines, so cheap.
Good luck!
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You can get a 2522 with 10 port serial for around $500.
Raj
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Thanks Alex but when your routers are going back to back LMIs are
turned off with the no keepalive command. I believe because a Frame
switch is not involved in creating the PVC.
In any case I updated the IOS image to 12.3.1a on both routers and
the connection comes back up without any issues
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
When you consider interface buffers are allocated to each
subinterface
Which command displays information about the buffers allocated to the
subinterfaces?
XXX#sh ip int br | inc Serial
Serial4/0 unassigned YES manual up
up
At 6:24 AM + 8/3/03, Zsombor Papp wrote:
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
When you consider interface buffers are allocated to each
subinterface
Which command displays information about the buffers allocated to the
subinterfaces?
Zsombor, interesting observation. I will have to check it; there
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Guys,
Very quick one here.
If I have a hub site with 5 spoke sites on an FR network, I could use FR
P2P sub ints or P2M sub ints.
Why would I prefer a P2P over P2M method? The routing protocol would be
EIGRP and apart
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Guys,
Very quick one here.
If I have a hub site with 5 spoke sites on an FR network, I could use FR
P2P sub ints or P2M sub ints.
Why would I prefer a P2P over P2M method? The routing protocol would be
EIGRP and apart from broadcast traffic being
At 3:35 PM + 8/2/03, Charles Cthulhu Riley wrote:
Less IP addresses used?
Typically, the advantage of P2P is that you can impose individual
policies on each spoke. A basic such example would be bandwidth
matching the CIR if all CIR's are not the same. Spoke-specific
access lists would be
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Less IP addresses used?
Typically, the advantage of P2P is that you can impose individual
policies on each spoke. A basic such example would be bandwidth
matching the CIR if all
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At 3:35 PM + 8/2/03, Charles Cthulhu Riley wrote:
Less IP addresses used?
Typically, the advantage of P2P is that you can impose individual
policies on each
Make sure lmi is being exchanged.
Turn on keepalives for the pvc.
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Per these instructions, I am able to bring
I have seen this problem before with frame. LMI being local to the frame
switch means the interface does not go down and backups routes do not kick
in. One way to overcome this is to monitor layer 2 by using the
#8220;frame-relay end-to-end keepalive mode bidirectional#8221; command
within a map
Ahh yes.. you can do this also.. pending you have 12.0(5)T or later. The
only issue with that is you might want to modify the frame-relay end-to-end
keepalive timer As you stated, Within the 15 second intervals x3 you are
looking at a good 45 seconds before the WAN interface goes down down ,plus
When you have a FR connection, you have a dedicated circuit to your provider
which then on taps into the frame cloud. So consider it alomost like a
point-to-point link to your local Carrier and then from there you connect
within the providers Frame Switch into their Frame Relay cloud. Now, when
I am tryin to use Frame relay switching over IP. Not IP over frame relay. If
we can do that we can connect two sites that are connected over IP from L2
point of view.
Frame Relay
Frame Relay over IP is not yet readily available. The draft IETF
specification was produced
in March 2001. This has
May I ask you what r u tryng to do?
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Hi all,
Anybody used Frame relay over IP without using MPLS or GRE Tunnel with
Cisco
routers?
We are searching for a solution to deploy Frame relay over IP without
using
MPLS or GRE tunnel.
Any
Yes, I have see this behavior many times and the key answer give it enough
time,
the problem is if you start making changes and still it does not works
because frame
needs time be on sync, normally what I do is configure it and keep making
other configurations
and them come back to it and the link
Thanks All information.
Can anyone recommend the CIR/EIR/Bc in this enviroment? (2 remote and 1 HQ).
I have subscribed the 3 circuit with 128k but I need to provide CIR/EIR/Bc
information further.
Thanks again
Lo Ching
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hi ching,
first i must say, that an LL, is most cost effective when the locations ur
connecing are close in proxemity.
FR will cost you less if the location if far away.
for the location that has bursty traffic, you can either get a 0cir link,
which doe't cost alot, but the amount of traffic
hi,
an LL is most cost effective if the sites are close in proxemity.
for an FR, you will have to pay for instalation + local loop + CIR and i
also seen providers that charge based on usage for FR.
contact ur provider to make sure about that...
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FR relay is quiet effective, especially with hub and multi-spoke
deployemnts. One of the big advantages as well, reducing interface costs on
the Hub end, as you onely have one serial interface with multiple FR PVC's?
A further solution is to have a xDSL / Cable installation at the remote
sites,
FR is usefull when youhave hub and spoke deployments. By making use of
shared circuit your bandwidth costs are normally a lot less thatn Leased
lines.
Another solution would possibl the use of VPN. WIth the price of broadband
coming down, you could probably have a broadband connection at the
I can't speak for all carriers but we don't charge mileage for frame
if it's intralata but there will be an extra charge even in intralata IF
one side of the connection terminates within the territory of an
independant telephone company. When interlata you will be charged
mileage by the long
Our carrier for LL is ATT. Their pricing was intrastate and interstate.
Mileage wasn't considered.
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I was told that leased line price depends on distance but frame relay
doesn't. Is this true? Thanks. Yoshi
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On the No Shut command, I'd use it last on each interface
you
configure.
-Mark
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, February 20, 2003 7:40 PM
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Hi Larry/John,
I forgot to mention no shut in the above confif while
writing
here,
Its still there and connection does not come out
See I mentioned that while giving command by command
it last on each interface you
configure.
-Mark
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Hi Larry/John,
I forgot to mention no shut in the above confif
it last on each interface you
configure.
-Mark
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Hi Larry/John,
I forgot to mention no shut
I would check your settings such as the LMI type, Have you done any other
fault finding yet ? Such as sh frame relay pvc ?
Once you hit no shutdown, the interface becomes live in a way of speaking.
Here is an example of one of my configs.
interface Serial0/0
no ip address
encapsulation
enter the no shut command into your cut and paste script for
the Int Ser0 and it will
come up..all interfaces in a router are always defaulted to
shutdown..In your case the
Main interface needs to be no shut in order for the logical
interface to work...
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Hi Larry/John,
I forgot to mention no shut in the above confif while writing here,
Its still there and connection does not come out
See I mentioned that while giving command by command manually connection
comes out.
It seems to me that while the interface is down during that frame-relay LMIs
think
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Hi Larry/John,
I forgot to mention no shut in the above confif while writing here,
Its still there and connection does not come out
See I mentioned that while giving command by command manually connection
comes out.
It seems to me that while
Hi Kerry,
The easiest way of doing this is just getting a cisco router with numerous
serial interfaces and configure it as a frame relay switch. I uase a Cisco
4500 with 8 serial ports in my lab.
Cheers
Troy
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The best way is to get a box with multiple serial interfaces such as a 2522
or 2523 and configure it as a frame switch. This seems to be the most common
way, anyway.
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Hi,
the commands work different than you describe. The status
request ist sent every 10 sec (keepalive 10). Every 10 sec an
answer is received. By default every 6th status request is a
full status request. The answer then contains the DLCIs and the
status of each DLCI.
The command lmi-n391dte 3
Hi Jens,
Thanks for the information. What confused me is this url:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/wan_c/wcdfrely.htm#46235
It states The only visible indication to the user that LMI autosense is
underway is when debug frame lmi is turned on. Every N391
Ya that is part of the reason and most likely the path is shorter
between GB and Mil than Mil and and Madison and there may be more
switches and/or and NNI between Mil and Madison, more congestions, etc...
Dave
Stull, Cory wrote:
3 locations. Milwaukee, Madison, Greenbay. Milwaukee
Stull, Cory wrote:
3 locations. Milwaukee, Madison, Greenbay. Milwaukee and
Madison both
have a 128k port 64k CIR. Greenbay has full T1 with 64k CIR.
From Milwaukee why is Greenbay's ping response times almost 3
times faster
than Madisons? Wouldn't Milwaukee being the
look at the carrier transitions
do a debug frame-relay lmi
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Hi all,
I have a Frame Relay circuit to an adtran ts120 and then v.35 to a
cisco1721. My serial interface keeps flapping
01:11:40: Serial0: attempting to restart
Hi Julian
yes u can do that by using ip unnumbered and using subinterfaces point to
pint
I cant get u properly from ur question what u mean
but see U can have many sub interfaces and all of them can use ip unnumbered
If anybody other will comenst lets wait for answers ,and if possible please
mail
Hi
I want to configure my 2610 for frame relay into my telco.
Then clients from all over will connect with frame relay through the telco
into my 2610.
Now i need to have 2 pvc`s per client.One will terminate on my 2610 and the
other pvc needs to be switched through my 2610 and terminated on
From what i can find, you will need to configure the interface as an NNI,
and then you frame-relay switch between 2 pvc you have on the router.
the problem is that subinterfaces are not supported by an NNI interface.
it can only be implemented on the main interface
so u will need 2 serial
actually come to think about it, u don't have the conditions for NNI
switching, u can't even do Hybrid switching, if the PVC through witch u wana
switch is DTE, i see only the option of frame switching over an ip tunnel,
but then again u have to have an ip segment available:
as far as
I would do a SHOW FRAME RELAY PVC
and see if the pvc is active. Also ensure that the IP's have the same
subnet and configure the LMI type so that it matches on both ends. Possible
even contact you Frame provider to see what type of LMI the switch supports.
vikramjskeer wrote in message
Hi Geoff,
Just a small possibility
Double check on what circuit is termining on the physical interfaces. What I
mean to say is, if the two ends are not connected to the same circuit
physically too, it might show you up/up (due to some other ends
connectivity) but it won't be the result
Sorry for the lack of response until now; I'm on a mid-shift. I was able to
get more info on this here (apparently it was a known issue, but not made
known to me), and the problem is exactly as everyone has suggested: The
circuit routes through TouchAmerica's network, and they have the PVC mapped
Have you factored in the amount of load on the PVC between Milwaukee and
Madison?
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I've got 2 frame-relay PVC's to 2 different remote locations... Both
identical locations with same amount of PC's running same
sanitized configs would help immensely. including other subinterfaces that
work as well as the ones that don't. from both sides.
also, IOS versions, numbers of subinterfaces,etc.
thanks
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sanitized configs would help immensely. including other subinterfaces
that
work as well as the ones that don't. from both sides.
also, IOS versions
that Chuck said too :)
-Mark
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sanitized configs would help immensely. including other
Sounds like a possible carrier frame-relay switch
mapping mishap. Maybe they added/changed some DLCIs
to their switches and mucked up your PVC/DLCI
mappings. Do you see CDP neighbor info over this DLCI
(sub-interface) if CDP is enabled? That would indicate
broadcast traffic is getting across the
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Have you checked the underlying PVC? show frame pvc, debug frame lmi,
beat
up carrier?
I have seen PVCs misconfigured by the carrier so they connected to
*somewhere*, so the sub
Hey Rick,
One question that had me thinking, How will the DTE (in this case R1)
translate the BECN received from Ra to notify the source which is behind R1
that congestion is occuring and that he should slow sown transmission? TIA
Wesley
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Hi Deepak,
The answer to you question what I feel is as follows.
Its not that after full congestion only Frame-relay Switch starts setting
bit FECN or BECN.When ever the traffic rate exceeds the threshold value some
percentage of it Then the switch informs the sender/reciver that it should
The bits are set by the equipment in the FR cloud.
| |
R1--|--Ra-RbRc-|-R2
| |
FR boundry FR boundry
In a simplified drawing like this if the link from router Rb to Rc was
Good timing - we just had this conversation a couple of weeks ago. :-)
There's a difference between a protocol being connection-oriented and it
being reliable. The two are not related.
Frame Relay is connection-oriented in that it establishes a connection
between endpoints *before* any data is
Okay, so the connection is reliable and guaranteed, but data
transfer...not so much. I get it.
Thanks a lot.
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here's another one.
http://www.tele.sunyit.edu/FrameRelay_Configuration.html
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Rich,
No, you are not missing anything - NBMA without neighbor statements over
serial links SHOULD not work and in most cases, won't.
Welcome to my world!
Chances are that you experiencing EpisodeOSPF the Phantom neighbor
I have fought this for over 6 months while studying. The dead interval
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No but hopefully you have the circuit ID's in case of trouble. With
these you can ask your provider or have your salesdude get the info for
you.
Dave
Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate) wrote:
All,
I've got
Qwest) Would there be any way to get the
circuit speed
through debugging? Maybe debug lmi?
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YASSER ALY wrote:
The short answer for your question is to use sh frame-relay
pvc
Here is a link illustrating this
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk713/tk237/technologies_tech_note09186a0080093c06.shtml
Unfortunately, I don't think show frame-relay pvc shows all that detail
unless
If the frame relay switch is reporting it (it may have something to do with
the type of LMI) you can use show frame-relay lmi to get the CIR.
John
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YASSER ALY wrote:
The short answer for your question is to
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To:
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Subject: RE: Frame relay circuit speed from IOS? [7:55908]
The short answer for your question is to use sh frame-relay pvc
Here is a link illustrating this
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk713/tk237
You can put the same configuration (ip address and interface-dlci) on the
major interface. The physical interface will then default to being a
point-to-point link. It would be a waste of interfaces to do this on a hub
router, but on a spoke it's fine. Your config would be:
r(config)#int s0
If you did it on the major interface you would only be able to have one
DLCI.
It's good habit to use subinterfaces, as to add 2nd DLCI you wouldn't first
need to remove the DLCI from the major interface thereby disrupting traffic.
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I don't believe the router will know it's speed in this circumstance. Maybe
some sort of link bandwidth test, or other tool would help. Is it possible
to get access to the external csu/dsu?
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Subject: Re: Frame relay circuit speed from IOS? [7:55908]
No but hopefully you have the circuit ID's in case of trouble. With
these you can ask your provider or have your salesdude get the info for
you
or something? (If the product name was
something like SmartDevice56, you could guess that the circuit was 56 Kbps.)
Priscilla
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Subject: Re: Frame relay circuit speed
Look at the router interface and see if you have any
DE
FECN
BECN
Debug frame-relay ilmi
Will show you what the telco has your circuit provisioned at.
This should get you started.
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Make sure you are not seeing 50KB, not 50Kb. 50KB equates close to
384Kb.
I have 1Mb ADSL and get around 110KB dl speed maxed out from a local FTP
server.
Symon
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I may be mistaken, but I think everything is normal. 384K is really
measured in kbits/sec. your reading of 50k is measured in kbytes/sec.
8bits to the byte, so 50 is really like 400.
Someone else please confirm my thinking.
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DU Meter can show download speeds either way in kilobits per second (kbps)
or kilobytes per second (which I think they abbreviate as KB), depending on
which report or graph you are looking at.
Throughput measurements will generally be quite less than the raw capacity
of a circuit. That's because
In cisco terms, mincir is the cir, and cir is the port speed.
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Hi Group,
Can someone please explain to me the difference between cir and mincir.Any
help is highly appreciated.
Regards,
neil
Here's a sample section of a map-class config that I wrote up for VoIP FRTS,
complete with running commentary on the commands (including min CIR and
CIR). Scott Keagy's Integrating Voice and Data Networks (Cisco Press) was
great for frame relay traffic shaping.
map-class frame-relay theframeclass
neil K. wrote in message
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Hi Group,
Can someone please explain to me the difference between cir and mincir.Any
help is highly appreciated.
whoa - deja vu, dude! just had a thread like this one yesterday. there
were some good explainations,
Howard,
I would like to hear your brief arguement on X.25 Fast Select as a
connectionless protocol. In (a paltry) defense of it being a
connection-oriented, doesn't the fast select option allow for data transfer
in the control packets? Just curious as to your input here and sort of
playing
Some documentation may say that it's connection oriented because you have to
set up a PVC (or an SVC) so you pre-establish a connection.
But in fact it's connectionless, since it doesn't have, like you say, a
retransmission system or error checking mechanism
like TCP.
And the terms connection
Frame-Relay is connection-oriented because of the establishment of virtual
circuits, that is, before any packet transfer, there is already an
established path.
Hope this helps.
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Pre-established path, that is it. It surprises me all this confusing
literature I read.
When I was reading for my CCNA a few months back, I was going through this
thing time and again from a Cisco-Authorized Course, namely, Frame Relay is
connection-oriented because of a pre-established path.
At 11:24 AM + 10/2/02, \\B.J. Wilson\\ wrote:
Dear Silent Bob:
Okay lunchbox, my co-workers and I are trying to figure out if Frame Relay
is
connectionless or connection-oriented. A lot of documentation I'm reading
says it *is*, but somewhere in the chasms of my memory banks I can't help
Well, I tend to look at things from a global or Layer 1 through 7
perspective: does Frame Relay perform the same functions that TCP does? In
other words, does it perform a check to make sure every single IP packet (or
Frame Relay frame) makes it from the ingress point of the Frame cloud to the
But should be different? True for the test and untrue in the real-world??
Just curious!
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Well, I tend to look at things from a global or Layer 1 through 7
But should be different? True for the test and
untrue in the real-world??
This is an unfortunate and all-too-common occurrence: the discrepancy between
marketing, and how things actually work. Cisco is a victim of it (e.g.
hybrid routing protocol), but Microsoft is arguably the worst
connection-oriented Jay you cocksmoker.
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Dear Silent Bob:
Okay lunchbox, my co-workers and I are trying to figure out if Frame Relay
is
connectionless or connection-oriented. A lot of documentation I'm reading
Frame-Relay is a connection-oriented protocol, but is considered unreliable,
it requires higher layer protocols to make it reliable (TCP)
Connection oriented does not always mean reliable.
Troy Edington, CCIE #7190
sam sneed wrote in message
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mechanismns.
X25 is connection oriented and reliable.
Peter
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From: B.J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Frame Relay: connectionless or connection-orie
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Well, I tend
At 4:49 PM + 10/2/02, Troy Edington wrote:
Frame-Relay is a connection-oriented protocol, but is considered unreliable,
it requires higher layer protocols to make it reliable (TCP)
Connection oriented does not always mean reliable.
Troy Edington, CCIE #7190
And there are connectionless
eo wrote:
On Tuesday 30 July 2002 07:59 pm, Dimitrije wrote:
I would like to connect 2 routers with a back-to-back frame
relay WAN
conection,
but I don't have the DCE-DTE back-to-back cable. Each router
does however
have
T1 WICs.
My question is can I connect the routers
On Tuesday 30 July 2002 07:59 pm, Dimitrije wrote:
I would like to connect 2 routers with a back-to-back frame relay WAN
conection,
but I don't have the DCE-DTE back-to-back cable. Each router does however
have
T1 WICs.
My question is can I connect the routers together with a T1
You have the lmi-type set wrong on the switch-to-switch connection. It
should be frame lmi-type q933a
See the link below for more info on frame relay.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fwan
_c/wcffrely.htm#11076
Marc Russell
Network Learning, Inc.
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