[Finale] Bug in independent time sig staff style

2011-03-20 Thread Aaron Sherber
Hi all, I'm wondering if there's a good workaround for this bug, in Fin11 and probably earlier versions: Start with a new default document. Add a second staff. Define a new staff style, copyable, and check 'Independent Time Signature'. Apply this staff style to the second staff, and then

Re: [Finale] Bug? Slurs VS. Slash-notation in Finale 2010

2009-08-25 Thread Christopher Smith
I tested this in FinMac2010, and the slurs stay unless they venture into the slash notation area, then they get hidden. All slurs that stay entirely out of the slash area show normally. This does not appear to be a bug, as I am having trouble figuring out a situation in which I would want

[Finale] Bug? Slurs VS. Slash-notation in Finale 2010

2009-08-23 Thread Karl-Johan Ankarblom
Hi! Can anyone confirm this behaviour: (Fin 2010.r4 on Windows XP Pro) I'm working on a chart where alot of measures have some parts as slash notation (applied as Staff Style), and parts of the measure as Standard Notation (no/cleared Staff Style). After applying the slurs I want on the

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: Certainly I could auto-update layout and avoid this problem, but I'm *never* going to do that. Do recent versions of Finale manage not to screw up existing layouts? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I tend to work back and forth between 75%

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: The reason why this bothers me is because it means data is constantly being discarded and recreated. This means that there will be a certain level of fragmentation in the file's internal structures (whether in RAM only, in temp files only, or in the actual

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: There is simply no excuse for repeating a system from one page to another. That's a bug. I shouldn't have to update page layout (manually or automatically) just to be sure I don't encounter that bug. The bug is that auto-layout-update can be disabled in

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 0:47, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 17 Feb 2009, at 12:24 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: there was no reason that page layout needed to be updated. Yes there is, as I said. You modified note values. That always requires the layout to be updated. That's just how Finale

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 0:50, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 17 Feb 2009, at 12:24 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Again, this is why I feel that the layout should always update automatically. And I respectfully disagree. I don't want things jumping around onscreen while I'm working.

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 10:03, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: Certainly I could auto-update layout and avoid this problem, but I'm *never* going to do that. Do recent versions of Finale manage not to screw up existing layouts? Perhaps it has something to do with

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 10:06, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: There is simply no excuse for repeating a system from one page to another. That's a bug. I shouldn't have to update page layout (manually or automatically) just to be sure I don't encounter that bug.

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 10:09, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: The reason why this bothers me is because it means data is constantly being discarded and recreated. This means that there will be a certain level of fragmentation in the file's internal structures

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Robert Patterson
Darcy James Argue wrote: I will repeat, for not the first time, that I do not understand the rationale for anyone leaving Automatically Update Layout off. Here is mine: Finale has a bug in how it relates to plugins and you can avoid that bug by turning off AUL. Specifically, any plugin

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 17 Feb 2009 at 10:09, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: The reason why this bothers me is because it means data is constantly being discarded and recreated. This means that there will be a certain level of fragmentation in the file's

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: Well, I am not an expert on Finale's data structures, but I am pretty sure updating the layout actually changes nothing in the file itself. You can't seriously believe that, can you? Before my update layout, pages displayed the problem. After I updated,

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: I think there might be a slight misunderstanding of what updating the layout actually does. It does not manipulate any data (unless such options are active) in the actual file. Page layout is not stored in the Finale file? You realize how ridiculous

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: You snipped the context. I did not claim that automatic layout updating caused that problem, but automatic music spacing *does* cause the problem. And it's only if I had automatic music spacing turned on that the music spacing could have changed without me

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 dc wrote: I'm afraid David is right on this count. I just modified the music spacing, saved and closed the file without updating the layout. When I reopen it, the layout is still the same and needs to be updated. Well, that's actually not what David just discribed, he said it

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 17 Feb 2009, at 8:59 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: I will repeat, for not the first time, that I do not understand the rationale for anyone leaving Automatically Update Layout off. Here is mine: Finale has a bug in how it relates to plugins and you can avoid

[Finale] Re: Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Good
A couple things from this Automatic Update Layout discussion: 1) Plug-ins can turn the various automatic layout settings on and off. If you see automatic layout being switched out from under you, see if you can relate this to running a specific plug-in. If so, please report the problem to

Re: [Finale] Re: Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Robert Patterson
The short answer is no. As I recall, the specific problem occurs for Beam Over Barline when the beam crosses a page boundary. Finale does an internal AUL in mid-stream at one point when I force a recalculation of measure (or bar) metrics, and at that point I can no longer see the relevant system

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Christopher Smith
On 17-Feb-09, at 17-Feb-09 1:26 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 17 Feb 2009, at 8:59 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: I will repeat, for not the first time, that I do not understand the rationale for anyone leaving Automatically Update Layout off. Here is mine:

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 14:52, dc wrote: I don't have the automatic update layout out on, but I update it manually as needed without even thinking. It's a habit I've had for so many years that I never even thought of changing this setting. I'm pretty automatic with it, too, especially during the

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 7:59, Robert Patterson wrote: David's concern that excessive updating could cause fragmentation is probably not warranted. This is based on a plugin-writer's level of knowledge about Finale internals, rather than a Finale developer's. But without boring the list with a a lot

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 9:49, dhbailey wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: On 17 Feb 2009 at 10:09, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: The reason why this bothers me is because it means data is constantly being discarded and recreated. This means that there will be a

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 16:15, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: Well, I am not an expert on Finale's data structures, but I am pretty sure updating the layout actually changes nothing in the file itself. You can't seriously believe that, can you? Before my

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 16:19, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: I think there might be a slight misunderstanding of what updating the layout actually does. It does not manipulate any data (unless such options are active) in the actual file. Page layout is

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 16:27, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 dc wrote: I'm afraid David is right on this count. I just modified the music spacing, saved and closed the file without updating the layout. When I reopen it, the layout is still the same and needs to be updated. Well, that's

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: Sorry, but I'm really not following you here. If the onscreen layout is screwed up, I expect it to print that way. If I close the file without updating the layout, I expect to see the same screwed-up layout. If I update layout so that it's correct and then

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 16:29, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: You snipped the context. I did not claim that automatic layout updating caused that problem, but automatic music spacing *does* cause the problem. And it's only if I had automatic music spacing

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: Ridiculous it may be (I actually have no opinion on that), but that's how Finale works. I don't believe there's anything ridiculous about it. But those were your words ...;-) Johannes ___ Finale mailing

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: AUL doesn't offer me anything I have ever needed, either, as my workflow is such that I do page layout at the end of the entry process. If I had changed the music in such a way as to alter the width of any measures, I would have respaced the music and

Re: [Finale] Re: Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 Michael Good wrote: 1) Plug-ins can turn the various automatic layout settings on and off. If you see automatic layout being switched out from under you, see if you can relate this to running a specific plug-in. If so, please report the problem to MakeMusic and/or the plug-in

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 13:26, Darcy James Argue wrote: David's reasons, on the other hand, make no sense at all to me. He keeps mentioning issues related to Automatic Music Spacing, which of course has nothing to do with Automatic Update Layout I only brought up automatic music spacing because

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 22:14, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Whatever the case, I still cannot understand your reasoning for not having the auto-update feature on. Because I do my page layout updates manually, at the time in my workflow when I'm laying out the pages. If I then edit in such a way as to

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 17 Feb 2009, at 4:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 17 Feb 2009 at 13:26, Darcy James Argue wrote: David's reasons, on the other hand, make no sense at all to me. He keeps mentioning issues related to Automatic Music Spacing, which of course has nothing to do with Automatic Update Layout

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 22:22, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: AUL doesn't offer me anything I have ever needed, either, as my workflow is such that I do page layout at the end of the entry process. If I had changed the music in such a way as to alter the width

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 16:34, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 17 Feb 2009, at 4:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 17 Feb 2009 at 13:26, Darcy James Argue wrote: David's reasons, on the other hand, make no sense at all to me. He keeps mentioning issues related to Automatic Music Spacing, which of

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 17 Feb 2009, at 5:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 17 Feb 2009 at 16:34, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 17 Feb 2009, at 4:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 17 Feb 2009 at 13:26, Darcy James Argue wrote: I only brought up automatic music spacing because someone asserted that *of course* I

[Finale] Re: Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Good
Hi Robert, Thanks for the explanation about the Beam Over Barlines plug-in. But in that case, as Johannes asked, why not just turn Automatic Update Layout off from within the plug-in? You can then do a manual update layout, do the plug-in changes, run further manual update layouts if needed, then

Re: [Finale] Re: Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 Michael Good wrote: Thanks for the explanation about the Beam Over Barlines plug-in. But in that case, as Johannes asked, why not just turn Automatic Update Layout off from within the plug-in? You can then do a manual update layout, do the plug-in changes, run further manual update

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: Well, you do! No, I really don't. The measure widths haven't changed, so even if I've replaced a whole note with sixteen 32nd notes, there is no reason I need to update the page layout. No, it won't look good, but it shouldn't require a page layout

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.02.2009 David W. Fenton wrote: I'll update the layout when the layout is wrong. In this case, my mistake was in not looking at the onscreen display of the page layout. But I'm not going to update the page layout when I can see onscreen that it's correct, even though you claim I should

[Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-16 Thread David W. Fenton
I use WinFin2003, and just had a disaster with uploading a PDF produced after some minor edits on a file. I did nothing but alter some of the note values in some measures (altering quite a few dotted whole notes to be whole notes plus half rest). I didn't think about it, and just reprinted the

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 16 Feb 2009, at 11:56 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Certainly I could auto-update layout and avoid this problem, but I'm *never* going to do that. I will repeat, for not the first time, that I do not understand the rationale for anyone leaving Automatically Update Layout off. In fact, I

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 0:07, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 16 Feb 2009, at 11:56 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Certainly I could auto-update layout and avoid this problem, but I'm *never* going to do that. I will repeat, for not the first time, that I do not understand the rationale for anyone

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Feb 2009 at 0:24, David W. Fenton wrote: And the way automatic page layout works means that there's far more page layout recalculating done than is necessary (because the automatic page layout recalc on the current page discards the layout for all subsequent pages, which means they

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi David, On 17 Feb 2009, at 12:24 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: there was no reason that page layout needed to be updated. Yes there is, as I said. You modified note values. That always requires the layout to be updated. That's just how Finale works. It was perfect as is, and none of my

Re: [Finale] Another question about a possibly-fixed Finale bug

2009-02-16 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 17 Feb 2009, at 12:24 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Again, this is why I feel that the layout should always update automatically. And I respectfully disagree. I don't want things jumping around onscreen while I'm working. Respectfully, David, I don't think you fully understand how the

[Fwd: Re: [Finale] bug?]

2008-03-25 Thread Raimund Lintzen
Found it! greetings Raimund Lintzen Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: [Finale] bug? Datum: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:11:09 EST Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antwort an: finale@shsu.edu An: finale@shsu.edu In a message dated 2/27/07 8:30:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oliver Pospiech

Re: [Finale] Another Perspective on MM and Finale Bug Fixes

2007-10-19 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yep http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/system-requirements.aspx Martin Banner wrote: I currently do all my work on Finale 2003a on my Mac Powerbook G4 (3 1/2 years old) with OS 10.3.9. Would I need to go to a more recent Mac OS in order to use Fin2008 (or even Fin2009)? Martin

Re: [Finale] Another Perspective on MM and Finale Bug Fixes

2007-10-19 Thread Martin Banner
I currently do all my work on Finale 2003a on my Mac Powerbook G4 (3 1/2 years old) with OS 10.3.9. Would I need to go to a more recent Mac OS in order to use Fin2008 (or even Fin2009)? Martin On Oct 18, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Leigh Daniels wrote: I wonder if the lack of bug fixes in the

[Finale] Another Perspective on MM and Finale Bug Fixes

2007-10-18 Thread Leigh Daniels
I wonder if the lack of bug fixes in the initial release of Fin2008 and the lack of a Fin2008 update are due to the immanent release of Leopard. I believe that there are major changes, including kernel changes, coming with the new OS. If this is true and if I were MM, I would be putting all my

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Bug Fix Wish List

2007-10-16 Thread Bruce K H Kau
I have been a finale (FinWin) user since 3.7, and right now, although I find the Sibelius discussion tempting, I do not plan on switching. I have upgraded to 2008, and while I am not a heavy user (maybe an hour a day), nor am I a professional engraver/musician/composer, I do occasional work

[Finale] Re: Finale Bug Fix Wish List

2007-10-15 Thread Daniel Wolf
Thanks to all for the overwhelming response to my question about users skipping the current upgrade or switching products. Most surprising was the fact that no one on the list has stepped up and indicated that he or she has either upgraded and been satisfied with the upgrade or has the

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Bug Fix Wish List

2007-10-15 Thread dhbailey
I recall at least one person who said that he had upgraded to Fin2008 and was very happy with it. (Or did he say 'content' with it?) At least there was one (and possibly another) over the past 3 weeks or so that have said they're using it quite well. David H. Bailey Daniel Wolf wrote:

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Bug Fix Wish List

2007-10-15 Thread Ray Horton
I am having _very cautious_ success with 08, because a couple of -very serious- bugs I (and almost no one else, bugs which were serious enough to keep me from using 07 at all) had with 07 , have been fixed in 08. I am just starting into some serious 08 use, and there are so many GUI changes

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Bug Fix Wish List

2007-10-15 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
/symphony.html http://www.geocities.com/~jbenz/lesbio.html - Original Message - From: dhbailey To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Bug Fix Wish List I recall at least one person who said that he had upgraded

Re: [Finale] bug: elements 'grayed out' in PDF

2007-07-09 Thread Rich Caldwell
On Jul 8, 2007, at 9:51 PM, Rich Caldwell wrote: On Jul 8, 2007, at 9:04 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I have never seen a PDF created on my Mac that didn't print correctly (except when printing from Windows 98), but I would suspect a font issue. For a while I had a font that displayed

[Finale] bug: elements 'grayed out' in PDF

2007-07-08 Thread Rich Caldwell
Has anyone noticed this bug before and know of a fix? FinMac2k7c, a score originally created in 2k7a(?) probably, using linked parts: At the beginning of two (and sometimes three) of the movements, the clefs and time signatures are grayed out on the PDF print-out of the full score (using

Re: [Finale] bug: elements 'grayed out' in PDF

2007-07-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 8, 2007, at 7:22 PM, Rich Caldwell wrote: Has anyone noticed this bug before and know of a fix? FinMac2k7c, a score originally created in 2k7a(?) probably, using linked parts: At the beginning of two (and sometimes three) of the movements, the clefs and time signatures are grayed

Re: [Finale] bug: elements 'grayed out' in PDF

2007-07-08 Thread Rich Caldwell
On Jul 8, 2007, at 9:04 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I have never seen a PDF created on my Mac that didn't print correctly (except when printing from Windows 98), but I would suspect a font issue. For a while I had a font that displayed correctly but printed different characters!? Changing

Re: [Finale] Bug in Include In Measure Numbering (was Key signature question)

2007-05-25 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On May 24, 2007, at 6:52 PM, dhbailey wrote: In Fin2007, you can set the measure attribute for the second measure so that it isn't calculated in the measure numbers. In earlier versions you have to monkey around with defining additional regions to handle the

[Finale] Bug in Include In Measure Numbering (was Key signature question)

2007-05-24 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 24, 2007, at 6:52 PM, dhbailey wrote: In Fin2007, you can set the measure attribute for the second measure so that it isn't calculated in the measure numbers. In earlier versions you have to monkey around with defining additional regions to handle the measure number hassles that

Re: [Finale] Bug in Include In Measure Numbering (was Key signature question)

2007-05-24 Thread Robert Patterson
Although Finale 2006 added the Include in Measure Numbering bit, I would under no circumstances employ it. It seems to have been hastily added and incompletely implemented. It is a big solution to a small problem. Wisdom suggests avoiding the potential headaches. -- Robert Patterson

Re: [Finale] bug?

2007-02-28 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 27, 2007, at 9:59 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: My solution to both that problem and the idiotic postage stamp- sized printing bug that I have had with new files in 2007 (that no one else seems to have) is to stop using the accursed 2007 and go back to 2006. It works. A local

[Finale] bug?

2007-02-27 Thread Oliver Pospiech
Please, who can help me? Does anybody know this behaviour of finale (2006c WinXP): blocked::http://www.oliver-pospiech.de/ blocked::http://www.oliver-pospiech.de/bug.jpg www.oliver-pospiech.de/bug.jpg - thick, blue signs crossed over the screen! What can I do against it? Thanks, Oliver

[Finale] bug?

2007-02-27 Thread Oliver Pospiech
Please, who can help me? Does anybody know this behaviour of finale (2006c WinXP): www.oliver-pospiech.de/bug.jpg - thick, blue signs crossed over the screen! What can I do against it? Thanks, Oliver ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] bug?

2007-02-27 Thread dhbailey
Oliver Pospiech wrote: Please, who can help me? Does anybody know this behaviour of finale (2006c WinXP): blocked::http://www.oliver-pospiech.de/ blocked::http://www.oliver-pospiech.de/bug.jpg www.oliver-pospiech.de/bug.jpg - thick, blue signs crossed over the screen! What can I do against

Re: [Finale] bug?

2007-02-27 Thread Barbara Touburg
I think this has something to do with staff styles, but I can't remember the solution, sorry. Oliver Pospiech wrote: Please, who can help me? Does anybody know this behaviour of finale (2006c WinXP): www.oliver-pospiech.de/bug.jpg - thick, blue signs crossed over the screen! What can I do

Re: [Finale] bug?

2007-02-27 Thread JohnBlane
In a message dated 2/27/07 8:30:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oliver Pospiech wrote: Please, who can help me? Does anybody know this behaviour of finale (2006c WinXP):     blocked::http://www.oliver-pospiech.de/ blocked::http://www.oliver-pospiech.de/bug.jpg

AW: [Finale] bug?

2007-02-27 Thread Oliver Pospiech
Believe it or not, the Blue Triangle appears because you have Internet Explorer 7 installed on your computer. To get rid of the triangle, click on the Document Menu -- Document Options -- Lines and Curves. In the upper right hand corner is a Resolution field. Change the number in the field

Re: [Finale] bug?

2007-02-27 Thread Raymond Horton
That was I. I have a similar problem in FinWin 2007b - occasional large blue triangles (which do not affect printing, but more later). I didn't get any real suggestions offered - some people here seemed so aghast that could I briefly misidentify my version of Windows as ME instead of XP (I

[Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Yesterday I installed the Finale 2k7b update, and I think I found as bug. Not a big one, but very annoying to my ways of working. Here is what I observed: Yesterday I had a lengthy session in Finale. Last night I closed and quit Finale, and I know for absolute certain that I did not save

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread verngraham
I found the same thing when i installed FIn2K7a, and mentioned it to tech support at MM to no avail. Also, I have enabled the software to make a copy when I do a save and directed it to a folder outside of the Finale folder) on a seperate drive on my Mac) and it repeatedly saved backup files in

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Randolph Peters
Yesterday I installed the Finale 2k7b update, and I think I found as bug. Not a big one, but very annoying to my ways of working. Here is what I observed: Yesterday I had a lengthy session in Finale. Last night I closed and quit Finale, and I know for absolute certain that I did not save

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 08.02.2007 Randolph Peters wrote: I get the feeling that this was supposed to be a feature enhancement and that MM didn't want all the settings to change. I don't mind opening a file with the same staff set that I left it in, but I agree, intentional changes in Finale behaviour should be

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Chuck Israels
In response to Johannes and Vern: I also experience this behavior in 2K7, though I find it only mildly annoying. There are other problems, and the communication with the support staff has deteriorated markedly since MM has gone to the web based system. It is not only mechanically more

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 08.02.2007 Chuck Israels wrote: I have a problem loading a Document Options library (on a Mac). When I load a correctly (I believe) saved library, most of the font selections are lost - wrong fonts are substituted, requiring me to correct them and practically destroying the advantage of

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread verngraham
I also asked MM why any of the libraries I used/created in Fin2K6 would not load (Chord Symbols, Shape Expressions, Shapes, Articulations) in Fin2K7 but got no response to that question. Very frustrating, because I decided to use a new template (from 2K7) to work on a new piece (rather than what I

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Johannes, Did you report this to MM? I am going to try once again to contact Jim Bruce and see if I can get some satisfaction - at least the acknowledgment of the existence of the problem. I keep telling them about this, and they are passing it off as an anomaly of my system. Other

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 08.02.2007 Chuck Israels wrote: Did you report this to MM? Well, no, because it actually happened when using Settings Scrapbook. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 08.02.2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also asked MM why any of the libraries I used/created in Fin2K6 would not load (Chord Symbols, Shape Expressions, Shapes, Articulations) in Fin2K7 but got no response to that question. Well, this is old news. To get your libraries updated, load them in

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Thomas Schaller
I also had problems loading my spacing libraries into 2K7 - nothing would load - MM couldn't explain it either, but they said they would look at it. The work-around for me was to use 2K6, load the library items into a blank file. Open that file with 2K7, then make a library - in my case

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread shirling neueweise
At 07:58 -0800 2/8/07, Chuck Israels wrote: the communication with the support staff has deteriorated markedly since MM has gone to the web based system. It is not only mechanically more difficult to communicate, but the quality of the responses are sometimes dismally off the subject...

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Jef, There is a place for feedback, but I am now in phone communication with the head of customer support at MM (Jim Bruce), a non-technical guy who is attempting to get the tech people (specifically the Mac guys) to respond to this library issue and the mishandling of fonts. I hope

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Johannes Gebauer / 2007/02/08 / 12:21 PM wrote: This has been the same since Finale existed. Libraries were never compatible with newer versions, or were they? Well, my chord lib is fairly complicated, which I just load it up when I get new Finale versions. I delete the entire chord lib on the

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Thomas Schaller
On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 08.02.2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also asked MM why any of the libraries I used/created in Fin2K6 would not load (Chord Symbols, Shape Expressions, Shapes, Articulations) in Fin2K7 but got no response to that question. Well,

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread verngraham
I only recall one earlier version (long ago) where Finale libraries wouldn't translate, and the documentation was very clear on this point: I think it was around the time that MacIntosh moved from Sys software 6.x to 7.0. But, I have been nigrating libraries since Finale 2002 with no issues. On

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 08.02.2007 Thomas Schaller wrote: they always were compatible. Until 2K7 I was using my 2004 libraries. Sorry, my bad, you are correct. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Chuck Israels / 2007/02/08 / 01:24 PM wrote: Jim says they are working on a much improved web based system of communication to be implemented later this year. I'm glad to hear it, because this one is clumsy, to say the least. Jim says they get 4,000 web requests and 15,000 phone calls a

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Hiro, That is exactly the system Jim said they would be implementing. MM doing something right, at least the second time around! Thanks - and warm regards, Chuck On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:05 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Chuck Israels / 2007/02/08 / 01:24 PM wrote: Jim says they are

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Christopher Smith
On 8-Feb-07, at 11:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also asked MM why any of the libraries I used/created in Fin2K6 would not load (Chord Symbols, Shape Expressions, Shapes, Articulations) in Fin2K7 but got no response to that question. A little-known and often-overlooked feature that

Re: [Finale] Bug?

2007-02-08 Thread Randolph Peters
Chuck Israels wrote: Attempts to communicate with MM have become more frustrating than they are worth. I know! I report serious bugs to try and make the program better, but I get the feeling that MM doesn't even read my messages. My last report has been going back and forth for 3 weeks and

[Finale] bug with split-measure and mid-measure repeats plug-ins

2006-10-05 Thread Éric Dussault
I ran accidentally into this bug today. I needed to use the split measure plug-in in a part to split an unmeasured bar that was too long. Later I noticed that the last measure of the part was gone! Here are the steps (100% reproducible for me):A few bars before the last one, select one measure and

Re: [Finale] Bug Report: Blank Notation Tuplet Bug

2006-01-15 Thread Karen
Hi Darcy, I have had similar strangeness in 2006 with applying blank notation to beamed tuplets. In my template, beams and tuplet numbers disappear resulting in single notes and stems throughout the measure (no tuplet numbers visible anymore). Is this the same thing you are describing?

[Finale] Bug Report: Blank Notation Tuplet Bug

2006-01-08 Thread Darcy James Argue
Applying blank notation to a group of beamed (unbracketed) tuplets causes tuplet brackets to appear. FinMac2006c. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/djargon Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

RE: [Finale] Bug report - Slurs between layers between systems -2006PC (REPOST)

2005-10-31 Thread Fisher, Allen
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:42 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Bug report - Slurs between layers between systems -2006PC (REPOST) Shouldn't that be the shipping department, though? Thanks for keeping us posted -- I was genuinely wondering what was up. David H. Bailey Fisher

RE: [Finale] Bug report - Slurs between layers between systems -2006PC (REPOST)

2005-10-31 Thread Phil Daley
At 10/31/2005 11:38 AM, Fisher, Allen wrote: Customer support also has the wonderful task of processing orders and taking questions on the new product. There's always a bit of a deluge whenever we release a product that's a popular seller. Wow! I never heard of customer support also doing

Re: [Finale] Bug report - Slurs between layers between systems -2006PC (REPOST)

2005-10-31 Thread Phil Daley
At 10/31/2005 01:07 PM, Fisher, Allen wrote: They do that as well, but current customers include not only current users with technical questions, but dealers, folks upgrading and wanting to know what's new, taking orders, etc. Taking orders? I just went down and talked to my customer support

Re: [Finale] Bug report - Slurs between layers between systems - 2006PC

2005-10-29 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 28, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Lon Price wrote: How about in a piano part, where in one measure a note needs to be in layer 2, but there's no need to do layers in the next measure--all notes are layer 1.  This happens to me all the time when writing piano music, and so far this bug hasn't

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