as when xpdf was dropped? I
vaguely remember emerge --update --deep world stopping with a message
that xpdf was being dropped, and also a few alternatives were suggested
in the message.
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tweaking.
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://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Poulsbo (the Arch Linux
wiki) or else copied large portions of that page. I followed their
instructions, but it did not help. I'll do some more testing first, to
see if I can narrow down the bug.
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video
performance. The netbook can now play 1080p HD Youtube videos in the
large player. Not fullscreen. Before this, 1080p would stutter
badly, even in Youtube's small player.
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it would
have a one-time inconvenience, but at least their systems wouldn't be
automagically screwed up.
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to installation, it would make the base of a good
system rescue utility.
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device. Also keep in mind that any data on
sdb will be wiped after running the dd command.
Thanks. Much easier than the instructions on the Gentoo wiki.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
are working on getting it signed by the needed
Microsoft keys right now.)
He's already done the heavy lifting. Aren't you re-inventing the
wheel?
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rejected. Then whenever anyone complains about not sharing code,
show them a bunch of WONTFIX emails from systemd/udev maintainers.
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On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:21:21AM +, Duncan wrote
Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:33:04 -0500 as excerpted:
[Udev-systemd has] essentially announced ahead of time that most bugs
from non-systemd users would be closed with WONTFIX.
Agreed, to this point.
Actually
-181
or higher system with a separate /usr, and no intrd/initramfs, I'm sure
a lot of people would be very interested in knowing how.
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was able to Google the solution on my
desktop machine... http://en.spontex.org/forum/thread/561/1/ I'm
posting a heads up on the user list.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
=-* and add on stuff as necessary when portage complains and/or
ebuilds break. That's what I'd recommend to someone wanting to set up a
basic server machine.
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On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 07:09:29AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote
On Jan 17, 2013 3:35 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
wrote:
If someone wants a *REALLY* basic system, they can start off with
USE=-* and add
. There
are just too many individual scenarios. A truly minimal build should be
sufficient to boot to a text console, and have networking and portage to
be able to build further up the chain.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
everybody. I suggest a minimal profile instead. It would boot to a
text console, and have networking and portage, allowing you to build
further.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
can find them elsewhere, but it would still be
convenient for me.)
Maybe a note in the install docs to run...
emerge --info | grep ^USE
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do
better than VESA. Give drivers 2 options...
1) direct kernel access like now
2) access via the HAL/shim
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On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:44:33PM -0100, Carlos Silva wrote
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
I'm not a C programmer, let alone a developer, so this may be a stupid
question, but here goes... has anyone ever tried doing a HAL (Hardware
Abstraction
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 04:47:09PM +0800, Greg KH wrote
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 02:01:31AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:44:33PM -0100, Carlos Silva wrote
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
I'm not a C programmer, let
. A newer Gentoo user, e.g. me a few
years ago, might have given up.
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Fun for users, and app upstreams.
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. At least the
following search is suggested...
grep -rl eth[0-9] /etc /var/lib
Also any custom firewall/routing/network scripts in other locations
should be searched for references to eth[0-9].
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us than the theoretically stable GNOME-2.32).
And the real solution is to finally stabilize some release of GNOME-3.x
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that stable was that far
behind. Now to see how much I have to keyword.
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I don't run desktop
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 12:10:33AM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote
On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 23:26 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:17:35PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote
It impacts users who use stable keywords and are therefore stuck with
GNOME-2.32
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:22:56AM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 04:19 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
I think I just realized what this means. I run ICEWM, not GNOME.
GNUMERIC and ABIWORWD and GIMP are the 3 GNOME apps that I use a lot.
Do I have to emerge GNOME-BASE
USE flag be the appropriate one to key on?
The description in /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc says...
systemd - Enable use of systemd-specific libraries and features like
socket activation or session tracking
Surely, units files qualify as systemd-specific features.
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.
Then howsabout a units ebuild that installs all available units
files for systemd users? The overhead of the files' presence is
trivial, and most systemd users won't care.
The thread title says it all... normal Gentoo users don't use systemd.
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I don't run
systemd config files would be installed regardless
of flags. Therefore udev/eudev don't have systemd flags. But both
have openrc flags, and will not run OK on an openrc machine without
the openrc flag.
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MMX2 support.
...shouldn't mmxext be moved out of use.local.desc into use.desc?
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that
it would be more robust for the installer to decide which files are of
type X, and not install them in the first place. This approach does
not risk wiping files from another program in the same directory. And
preventative action is generally better than cleaning up after the fact.
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the harddrive, you can still boot from the ISO, chroot into
the system on the harddrive, and send emails to the gentoo-user list
asking for help G.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
the bootloader (lilo/grub). It can
boot Gentoo, Fedora, BSD, any special-purpose kernel you wish, and even
Windows 7 for that matter.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
, a
separate partition would also prevent standard utilities from stomping
all over their busybox symlink equivalants. Add another entry to the
grub/lilo menu, and boot from that.
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to the Gentoo user mailing list ;)
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:56:00PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
In order for a different init system to come up, some file(s)
somewhere *MUST* be different, no ifs/ands/ors/buts.
How true is this in general? It is usually only a change of the init
see how busybox development justifies an additional layer
of complexity for everybody's bootup.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
), but if I did want to apply custom
patches, I think the right approach would be to somewhere manually
modify UNIPATCH_LIST. If that approach won't work, maybe a USE_EXPAND
flag make.conf might be the way to go. E.g. CUSTOM_PATCH=foo bar
would resolve to USE=custom_patch_foo custom_patch_bar
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a PYTHON_TARGETS_PYTHON2
variable, python2_7 will also work fine.)
Out of sheer curiousity, why does make.conf need all 3 of...
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7
USE_PYTHON=2.7
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over at the storage space he keeps his
bicycles in...
So what colour would your storage space be?
I think mauve has the most ram http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-11-17/
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
a separate item from the USE flag. Since I've never used the gpm USE
flag, I have to ask... what additional goodies does USE=gpm bring to
the table? How exactly, does it improve things beyond the basic
sys-libs/gpm?
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:58:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote
On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between gpm the USE
flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server.
[...]
If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from the install
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:58:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote
On 07/31/2013 11:53 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
Hold on a minute. There is a *MAJOR* difference between gpm the USE
flag, and sys-libs/gpm the mouse server.
[...]
If there was a move afoot to remove sys-libs/gpm from the install
:54 /etc/wgetrc
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that working, then worry about upgrading to GNOME 3.8
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On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:16:37AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote
Though, an init system standard might be the most promising approach.
Ahemmm http://xkcd.com/927/
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the top of my head... XFCE, Cinnamon, Consort, Mint, Mate, Kate,
Unity, etc, etc. If you don't like GNOME, try one of them.
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, we all know
that.
greg k-h
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have other options than just systemd?
Again, how do you force a rogue upstream development team to follow
*YOUR* rules? Answer; you can't. If you want GNOME-like goodness,
consider Cinnamon/Consort/Mate/Kate/etc/etc. I'm a neutral observer of
this entire mess... see my sig.
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the
wording should be a more generic make a backup copy of /etc. I also
recommend backing up /var/lib, which contains iptables rules, alsa
state, portage world, and other goodies.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
packages that get updated as often as vanilla
sources? Maybe they should be considered for a similar policy.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
plain text. So it can be done properly for everybody.
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I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
decode ANSI. A nice feature of mc is that I can
sort the file list by various options. When looking at emerge output in
/var/log/portage/elog, I want to sort by file-modify-time, so I can
easily see which files were output in the most recent emerge run.
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I don't
syslog files is paved with good intentions, or
something like that. Question... why does it have to be escape
sequences? Can't it be readable plain text? E.g. something like...
//STDERR.OUT.START
foo
bar
blah blah blah
//STDERR.OUT.END
This would be easy to grep and/or parse in bash.
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==
See https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463954
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move or copy the 2 files over to /root
unmerge udev
move or copy the 2 files from /root to /usr/lib/
Note that /usr/lib/ is a symlink to /usr/lib64 on my 64-bit gentoo
Please discuss; I want to hear what you think.
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not work for me.
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is my forte. I'm retired, and I have a
spare machine to play around with for testing. Contact me offline if
I can help.
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running out of space in other partitions
* I started using it years ago when I had not decided which distro to
use. I could wipe the contents of /opt, /var, /usr, and /tmp but keep
my data, emails, etc, in my user directory and install another distro
without blowing away my data.
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willing to use
as a guinea-pig for testing mdev under the proposed setup.
How difficult would it be to set up an mdev-based profile, already?
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1 line allowed beginning with EAPI=
exit
else
# parse value of EAPI and call appropriate ebuild parser version
exit
fi
This treats the EAPI statement as a declaration, and doesn't care
where it shows up in the file. I'm assuming no leading blanks in front
of EAPI.
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, and any other critical
(meta)data should be declared early on in the ebuild. That's what the
ebuild is for.
2) Any potential ebuild processor that's incapable of looking for regex
^EAPI= in a textfile, amd parsing the numbers that follow, has no
business being used to process ebuilds.
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, so I won't be seeing this problem, but a simple
solution that works for 95% of users might be the way to go. For the
more complex situations, an initramfs will be necessary.
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ebuild. It should
return an error message (in this case Multiple EAPI declarations not
allowed) and then halt. It is the ebuild-writer's job to come up with
a syntactically correct ebuild.
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at you, if you have /usr on the same file
system, plus you boot with systemd, your machine could be broken and you
don't even know it.
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://pckeyboard.com/page/category/IBMKBD
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complex systems
to work with mdev.
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On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 03:12:11AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote
TOOT!!! (blowing my own horn). See http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ for
instructions on replacing udev with mdev for simple Gentoo systems.
Hopefully more info will start arriving, allowing more complex systems
to work with mdev
, /usr/local is the standard place to keep one's own
software and/or global customizations that aren't handled by the package
manager, but don't belong in one user's home directory.
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removed.
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On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 04:28:15PM +0100, Steven J Long wrote
Walter Dnes wrote:
I've also cobbled together my
own autodepclean script that check for, and optionally unmerges
unneeded stuff that was pulled in as a dependancy of a package that has
since been removed.
What advantage does
code. That's
why I suggest optional add-ons for any additional functionality.
BTW, how would a non-programmer (at least not C programmer) like me
forward these ideas to the Gentoo Council?
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:04:54PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote
On 04/22/2012 06:25 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
BTW, how would a non-programmer (at least not C programmer) like me
forward these ideas to the Gentoo Council?
You'll see an email on this list a week or two before the next council
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 02:22:53PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote
All users are recommended to migrate:
# emerge -C media-libs/jpeg:0
# emerge -1 media-libs/libjpeg-turbo
How about mentioning revdep-rebuild in the instructions?
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a symlink from /bin/busybox to /ginit?
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migrated over to mdev. See
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev That page is now mostly other
people's contributions. I was the rabble-rouser who started it.
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don't think that'll change, at least I hope it
doesn't. What could work is a shim or compatability layer that gets
called, and pre-processes requests and forwards them to mdev.
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On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:59:45PM -0700, Greg KH wrote
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:52:33PM -0700, Luca Barbato wrote:
On 04/05/12 14:35, Walter Dnes wrote:
What could work is a shim or compatability layer that gets
called, and pre-processes requests and forwards them to mdev.
That's
/chromium-18.0.1025.151 [ebuild])
(dependency required by chromium [argument])
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
=
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/portage/elog, it could be useful
as a server_or_lightweight_desktop profile.
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...
cat /sys/block/sda/removable
0
cat /sys/block/sdb/removable
1
My question... is this API stable or deprecated? I.e. can I count on
it being around for a while? I figure this question is a developer type
question rather than ordinary user type.
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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:31:25PM -0400, James Cloos wrote
WD cat /sys/block/sda/removable
WD 0
Note that a 0 there does not imply that the device cannot hotplug.
My USB drive reports 0.
You're right. Same for me. Thanks for pointing it out.
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... period... end of story. Stick with the unix principle of one
app doing one thing well. mdev is enough for the vast majority of people.
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, a fork
I'd be interested in would be to take standard Gentoo and replace as
many programs as possible with their busybox-symlink equivalants. This
would require at least a new profile, to
a) create the appropriate symlinks, and
b) not pull in the standalone versions.
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 02:32:57AM -0400, Olivier Cr?te wrote
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 01:05 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
I *DON'T WANT* a serious framework, I want a lightweight device
manager... period... end of story. Stick with the unix principle of one
app doing one thing well. mdev
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26:03AM -0700, Greg KH wrote
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 01:55:23AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
After some more Google-searching. it looks like the official
channels way is via /etc/mdev.conf. Note that this is on a system with
busybox[mdev] and no udev. /etc
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:44:59AM +0200, Stelian Ionescu wrote
On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 18:38 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:26:03AM -0700, Greg KH wrote
What specifically is your objection to udev today? Is it doing things
you don't like? Too big? Something else
I asked what I thought was a simple developer-type question. I don't
want this to become a public flamewar. If anybody wants to discuss the
issue with me further, please email directly to me and not the list.
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programs to do.
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?
If not, that's one less reason to keep games special.
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, but that's what we could be looking
at here.
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machines, how many companies will make cpus for the remaining 5%.
Remember how MS strongarmed OEMs into a Windows tax?
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:49:18AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote
Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot
of work into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for
udev. There's been a good deal of success there, up to and including
it working with GNOME 2. The work's been
://linux.die.net/man/8/pivot_root and
http://linux.die.net/man/2/pivot_root
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from
Linu-x to Lenna-x?
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/hotplug is gone, mdev advocates will have
settled on some early udev fork. [1]
Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded
device area? Udev, even without the systemd code, is simply to large
for embedded devices.
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/mdev.
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