Goodbye, Richard, and good luck!
I see I haven't read the IBMVM list since sometime in June. Sorry about t
he belated response to
your retirement.
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:00:43 -0700, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote
:
In just a few minutes, I will be checking out of the Visa hotel (or perh
I never got THE to work on my Mac, which is why I never switched to it. (
I use BBedit/TextWrangler on
the Mac. Does syntax coloring.). I still use KEDIT on the PC at work, and
XEDIT on VM.
And no, KEDIT still does not support prefix macros. Mansfield has announc
ed end of support for
KEDIT.
a presentation Introduction to SCSI over FCP for Linux on
System z at http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc/lvc1020c.pdf. It
mentions (on foil 6) the two topologies, point-to-point and switched
fabric, but gives no restrictions.
Thanks!
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot
We think the problem is IPGATE, which IBM does not support, right?
In one case when my PROFILE EXEC in Richmond, VA issues
ACCESS SFSKC:ACKERMAN.TOOLS C
I can fix the problem via
#CP IPL
ACC (NOPROF
FORCE IPGATE
AUTOLOG IPGATE
In the case I reported here, I don't even get an error message
On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 18:44:04 +0100, Berry van Sleeuwen berry.vansleeuwen
@xs4all.nl wrote:
Would PIPSTOP cancel the SFS command (or any CP/CMS command for that
matter)? If so then you could use PIPSTOP to end the pipeline. Just a
theory, not tested in any way...
As John Hartmann explained:
Moving this question from CMS-PIPELINES to IBMVM, since I am assured by
John Hartmann that it cannot be done with CMS Pipelines. Anyone figured
out how to get it to time out?
Sender: CMSTSO Pipelines Discussion List CMS-
pipeli...@vm.marist.edu
From: Ackerman, Alan
What command are you issuing on the CMS client?
Alan Ackerman
ALL' ,
'| TAKE LAST 1' ,
'| CONSOLE' ,
'| SPECS W6 1' ,
'| VAR sysres'
'PIPE CP QUERY CPOWNED' ,
'| PICK W2 == /'sysres'/' ,
'| SPECS W2-* 1' ,
'| CONSOLE'
Not tested. But then the first pipe wasn't tested either.
Alan Ackerman
you anything about CMS's particular implementation of the
Unix file system.The
only place to find that is in the IBM Manuals.
If you wanted to tell us what problems you are having, I'm sure there are
people on this list who
can help you.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America
I've never tried it. If you download the ZIP file z-261K it contains a
PDF with installation
instructions. This is the entry on the Download page
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/.
LXC v-379K
z-261K You want this one.
2010-07-18 Run CMS commands from a TCP connected
that count a referenced or not? Yes, the machine had to reference it
, but no, it never got
executed. YMWV (Your Mileage WILL Vary)..
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 17:44:26 -0500, Gary M. Dennis gary.den...@mantissa.c
om wrote:
There is only
can.
This is really your first tool for user performance problems!
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:22:47 +0200, Colin Allinson cgallin...@amadeus.com
wrote:
We have a very large VM system that runs in a partition on a Z9 with 7
dedicated
algorithms are, I would expect
this compression to
easily save you the cost of ESALPS/zVPS.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
--
Is anyone transmitting to an MVS host the VM Monitor data to be processed
by MXG
Photons don't carry a charge, Mike. (It's still Friday here for 7 more mi
nutes.)
Alan Ackerman
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:16:13 -0500, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com
wrote:
TCP/IP is old technology? What about the bits and bytes it relies on -
why can't IBM replace those with negatively
HELP says:
Responses
The format of the response is:
CMS Level nn, Service Level nnn
I guess the 'nnn' must mean it is 3 digits. To my memory, it has always b
een 3 digits.
Alan Ackerman
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:21:06 -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife
.com wrote:
q cplevel
. Does anyone know how much NetRexx is used in z/OS?
My employer's standard language is Java. Another strike against CMS.
Alan Ackerman
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 06:38:35 -0700, Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-
Software.com
wrote:
Right, so even better chance that java on cms would be more than
Our Capacity Planning folks reported that the upgrading from the z9 to th
en z10 saved the bank
beaucoup bucks. I think the same thing will happen going from z10 to z196
.
Did IBM raise the price of the entry-level machines? That might explain t
he difference in our
viewpoints.
We are still
applications.
Alan Ackerman, Bank of America.com
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:02:32 -0400, Michael Donovan dono...@us.ibm.com
wrote:
There was a Java port for CMS, in days long gone. It was withdrawn fro
m
the product and the web pages were removed after z/VM 4.4.0. If you had
installed the Developer
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:42:11 -0500, Steve Perez sspe...@corelogic.com w
rote:
Greetings,
Is there a way to dynamically refresh the definitions in the PROFILE TCP
IP
file without bouncing the TCPIP address space on z/VM 5.4 with TCPIP 5.4
?
Yes, read up on the TCP/IP OBEYFILE command.
In
any more, alas.
Alan Ackerman
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:08:05 -0700, Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-
Software.com
wrote:
I think the cms java performed very poorly could be revisited. back
then, the mainframe was at most 400Mhz? or less? of course it performed
poorly. so now the processors
the description in the APAR in
stead of forcing people to
ask? OK, maybe it wasn't secrecy, just bureaucratic incompetence. I apolo
gize.
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:40:56 -0400, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
wrote:
On Thursday, 09/23/2010 at 11:27 EDT, Alan Ackerman
alan.acker...@bankofamerica.com
VM64816 becomes available later this year (2010). IBM will
support all z/VM production environments at that time.
That makes it sound like a beta! Is this safe to put on? What constitute
customer test
environments? Where should we NOT install it?
Alan Ackerman
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 10:19
sed as central storage. The
number of 2G page frames on the available list is an indication of how m
uch storage should be
reconfigured as expanded storage.
Alan Ackerman
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:46:54 +0200, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@velocitysof
tware.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:14 AM
like Dennis O'Brien and I are competing on these pages -
- we're not. Dennis is in
z/VM Support and I am in z/Linux Support. So we do have different viewpoi
nts. We still talk to each
other a lot.
Alan Ackerman
alan (insert dot) ackerman (inset at sign) bank of america (insert dot) c
om.
big enough to drive a
truck through. (And therefore APARable.)
Then there are APPC/VM and CPI Communications. These are rather more comp
lex, but you could
read up on them.
Right, more WHY instead of HOW. But all that stuff I mentioned is documen
ted, if you want to try
it.
Alan Ackerman
to.
There are some manuals that are available only in BookManager. Would you
please consider
bringing them forward as PDFs? EXEC2 comes to mind, but I think there are
others you have
abandoned, but not deleted the function from z/VM.
Alan Ackerman
.
I'm uncomfortable with joining groups that are not open to (almost) every
one. I can see excluding
trolls and spammers, though.
But maybe there is a good reason?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
Last time I looked, REXX sockets did not support IPv6. Is that still true
? Everyone keeps telling me
we will need IPv6 Real Soon Now. But I have been hearing that for years.
If you have IPv6 in the present or near future, I think you cannot use RE
XX Sockets.
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:04:27
File System,
you can run the EXEC in one virtual machine and edit it in another one. Y
ou still have to save and
run the EXEC from the start each time.
Alan Ackerman
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 20:39:24 +0200, Kolasinski Piotr p_kolasin...@compfor
t.pl wrote:
-Wiadomo¶æ oryginalna-
Od: The IBM
Back in the dark ages ... the first program I wrote when I went from (ass
embler) applications
programming to system programming was a program to issue CP commands (via
EXEC
pgm=xxx,parm='cp-command) in JCL). Back then we didn't consider
any sort of security
necessary. (I don't know what
DIAG 00 shows you the 3rd level CMS user, MAINT, and the 2nd level VM sys
tem, VM2ND. It does
not show you the name of the 1st level VM system, which is what I think w
as meant by parent.
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 08:13:19 -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.
com wrote:
Okay, got a 2nd level
running in cec1.lpar1.*userid* must be the child of the
z/VM running in cec1.lpar1.
Alan Ackerman
the first level system identifier from the second level system without a
mod to the first level system?
I think this also extends to a Linux guest of the the second level system
, but again I could be wrong.
Alan Ackerman
If it violates UArk rules, shouldn't you take the post off the archive? (
Yes, it is still here.) That would
perhaps discourage people from posting job openings here.
Am I the only one that reads this list at http://listserv.uark.edu/archi
ves/ibmvm.html?
Alan Ackerman
alan (dot) ackerman
I use VMFTP to create EXECs / VMFTP macros that get through our firewall
just fine. Of course your
firewall may well be different. If you have to respond to a firewall prom
pt in some way, VMFTP
allows you to do that, while stacked FTP subcommands do not.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman
, and should be investigated, but if there are any other
rules that allow this link, then
VMSECURE QRULES JHUG LINK MAINT 123
should not tell you that the LINK would be rejected via NORULE DEFAULT.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank
users running at 99% and have the 3 IFLs running at 10-15% each.
Are you sure you are looking at the same time interval? If you are lookin
g
at both Linxu and VM tools, they may not match up.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot
The version of LISTSERV (14.5) that UARK is running has a perfectly good
web interface. You don't
need the old line-mode commands. Try http://listserv.uark.edu/scripts/wa
.exe.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
does not support external coupling facilities or real coupling
links.
The same manual for z/VM 5.3.0 is no different, except note (2) is gone.
I think you are going to have to find a z/OS manual, perhaps Planning for
Installation, GA22-7504 mentioned above.
Alan Ackerman
There is no http://www.ibm.com/ibmbmlink. If you mean http://www.ibm.com/
ibmlink, that is the
URL that IBMLink recommends you use. What were you using for IBMLink 2000
?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
The only z/VM 6.1 only items I found were:
1. Limited to z10 only
2. Prefetch guest data into processor cache
3. Closer integration with IBM Systems Director
So if that's all there is, why would anyone bother to install z/VM 6.1?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot
. Or perhap
s even earlier versions of
the GI manual.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
, of course, add a
record number to each
record, and then sort on the record number at the end, but that will perf
orm very poorly on large
files.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
That's the first thing I thought of, too -- but note that there is no z/V
M in this picture, just z/OS
and PR/SM. z/OS does recognize the existence of z/VM but it still does no
t handshake with z/VM
as far as I know. Have I missed something?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank
work in
the last 10 years. Im
sure Ive missed or oversimplified things. If anyone knows of a good re
ference on the MP effect,
Id like to read it. Is anyone aware of any work on MP effect when runn
ing Linux guests on z/VM?
Alan Ackerman
alan.acker...@bankofamerica.com
for wildcard
s on volsers in CP
would be useful. Someone want to write a requirement?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
Duerbusch
THD Consulting
I'm a programmer, not a DB2 expert. I think you may need to contact IBM t
o find one of them.
You didn't explain how you know this is a single LUW.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
the records you plan to ins
ert and then delete.
That would ignore the added records.
UPDATE ASN.CDERS_HISTORY SET FLAG=1;
INSERT INTO STL01.ERS_HISTORY_A
SELECT * FROM ASN.ERSHIST_X
WHERE FLAG=1;
DELETE FROM ASN.CDERS_HISTORY
WHERE FLAG=1;
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot
If you have PVM, the MPVM component is quite a powerfull tool to automate
screen emulation.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
On Thu, 21 May 2009 12:41:55 -0500, Ian S. Worthington ianworthing...@us
A.NET wrote:
Hi.
As a proof of concept I've thrown a client
- Similar pages
Plus some Japanese and some irrelevant ones.
Are you running VM:WebGateway?
Alan Ackerman
alan.acker...@bankofamerica.com
://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html.
There is one limitation -- my PC does not spellcheck my posts. My Mac at
home spellchecks eveythign, so I prefer to use the Mac.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
On Fri, 1 May 2009 15:30:47 -0700, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote
:
Is the doc in LookAt Messages (http://www-
1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/lookat/ )
Regards,
Richard Schuh
Yes. Just type in 9051 and follow a couple of links.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank
suggested, 3-phase
is more reliable.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
Schuh
I am no bean-counter.
I don't wnat to get into an argument with Barton here. He lives out here
and we can argue any time we want offline. I only came up with my list of
concers because Alan (Altmark) asked.
If we get ESALPS, I do intend to keep Barton to his promises, though.
Alan
they want what they are
used to. Or what comes with their standard build of Unix/Linux. Perhaps d
on't want to request
additional software and call attention to their use of FTP to move data f
rom Unix to CMS to do
their batch processing.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot
Taken from previous topic Re: z/VM 5.3 maintenance question
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:26:49 -0400, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
wrote:
You can find the content of any RSU at http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/rsu
/
Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott
don't believe in 'list purity'. I'd prefer to eliminate BS, but not
actual technical content.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
doubt that would be accurate. Some processes are
much more likely to have the CPU stolen than others. (Those that are CPU-
bound instead of I/O-bound, for example.)
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
data Barton is using.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
(and VMSYSU?)
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
of them and didn't see what I was looking
for, but perhaps I clicked on the wrong one. I see I am looking for
SERVLVL = 0801RSU.
Thanks!
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
would be correct for other methods of collecting process data.
Does it use monitor data or accounting data? People at my shop would not
like it using monitor data. Other shops can decide for themselves.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
end to the IBM one.
MYPRPEEK XEDIT A
Commands to customize.
'MACRO PROFPEEK'
Commands to customize.
Then issue DEFAULTS SET PEEK PROFILE MYPRPEEK once.
I have given examples in the past.
Is IBM breaking their own rules?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:11:11 -0400, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
wrote:
On Thursday, 04/02/2009 at 03:16 EDT, Alan Ackerman
alan.acker...@earthlink.net wrote:
Does it use monitor data or accounting data? People at my shop would n
ot
like it using monitor data. Other shops can decide
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:38:41 -0400, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
wrote:
On Wednesday, 03/25/2009 at 12:05 EDT, Alan Ackerman
alan.acker...@earthlink.net wrote:
Can someone explain this restriction to me. If I have accessed a
file mode directory, doesn't the SFS server know
just to find out w
ho is using them -- and risk
breaking someone's application.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
of NIH. (Not Invented Here.)
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
problem.
Attachmate Extra! works just fine, and so does IBM Pcomm.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
=
inXedit:
call CSL DMSINXED csl_rc csl_reason in_xedit
return csl_rc = 0 in_xedit = 0
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
it up in the queue. Or marketing might decide to tel
l
development and support to hurry up and stop the bad publicity.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
for more information.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
.)
It is passed along informally. Originally mouth to mouth (odd expression,
that!). I think informal
transmission by email or mailing list still counts as folklore. (Blogs al
so? Wikipedia?) Once it gets
written into a manual, or a FAQ, then I don't think it is folklore.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot
with keyboard short
cuts. Shouldn't it start
with as description of the page layout and how to use it?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
have
no experience with Eclipse. Is there a good tutorial on Information Cente
r? The Help for the
information center is amazingly unhelpful. It starts with keyboard short
cuts. Shouldn't it start
with as description of the page layout and how to use it?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank
different from compiled language
s.
I think the CSL routine call copies the value of REXX variables into buf
fers, and copies the output
values back from buffers back into the REXX variables. I have never tried
to write a CSL routine,
but it must be documented somewhere.
Alan Ackerman
Alan
don't know if it can
support all those different releases of z/OS or not. I don't even know if
GRS is still supported at
all.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
the customer to buy a run-time license.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
had common code betwee
n
LPARs and didn't want to run a product that was not licesned to run on an
IFL.
z/VM 5.4.0 and the z10 with its VM mode LPARs amkes this more complicated
,
of course.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America
Active Directory. But last month I was told we are migrati
ng our cMTA (Corporate
Mail Transfer Agent) to an LDAP=based one. I'm not at all clear what
that means. I guess I will go
ask.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
--
Phys Dispatch
CPUsSlice
15 Dynamic
So the STSI may ignore the IFLs.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
indicates the processor is a System z9 Integrated
Information
processor.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
Oddly enough, December is not there yet. December 1 is on the November pa
ge. The December page
is at this URL:
http://listserv.uark.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind0812L=ibmvm
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
can watch it from my Mac?
Does it work on a Mac?
(The last iteration tried to run on my Mac but hung.)
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
client-side certif
icates sometime soon?
To be fair, the rest of the product is rock-solid; it is just the SSL sup
port which was purchased a
long time ago from an outside vendor that is a problem. Support (Mike Lud
e') is very good, too!
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:09:50 -0600, Daniel P. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
om wrote:
Alan:
I suspect you've got web caching wackiness of some sort tangled up with
this. My view of http://listserv.uark.edu/archives/ibmvm.html has
December 2008 at the top of the list.
-dan.
It's working now
Alan
the limit
is 128 without that APAR.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:57:12 -0600, Alan Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.NET wrote:
Don Cox of IBM sent me this one:
IBM System z: The Ultimate Virtualization Platform
The future runs on System z
Reed A. Mullen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IBM Systems and Technology Group
Is that the Reed Mullen presentation
devices
per virtual machine. I found
this limit in a Reed Mullen presentation. I think the limit is on the web
somewhere, but I cannot
find it. Dennis O'Brien may know.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 13:25:01 +0100, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Alan Ackerman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ideas on what value z/VM adds would be appreciated!
Starting point should be the presentations that Reed Mullen does at
various events
all I/O on a PC is handled by the central processors, whil
e the mainframe has the
IOPs to do much of that work.
It would be nice to quantify this, though.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
engine for the mainframe.
He specifically mentioned the ability to pick up a Linux guest running un
der VMWARE and moving
it to another box running VMWARE. So far VM cannot do that.
Ideas on what value z/VM adds would be appreciated!
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot
site.
I could find nothing about VMWARE at IBM's site. Could you please send me
a copy, or post a web
link?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
?
Are there any web sites that give performance comparisons VM versus VMWAR
E?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
when I tr
y
to run it:
HTTPS protocol requires an SSL interface program (WW2HTTPS REXX)
I think I need the source for 177, alas.
Does anyone know where to get it?
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
. I don't know what your are going
to see.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
) or not-sign. REXX
does not require a not-sign
-- I recommend using backslash.
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
/10
SEMAPHORE FAILS IF MULTIPLE SUBTASKS WAITING_
Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com
exception occurred at 816F6F8C in system routine
RXSSL; re-
IPL CMS
CHARLOTTE claims to be V2R1FL155
I see that I added 128bit encryption via instructions from James Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED].
(That's the most recent version above.)
Alan Ackerman
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