Re: [MBZ] Diesel Air Filter service life.

2007-08-19 Thread E M
I'm kind of curious now. How do the California filters differ from those in the rest of the US or North America? Ed 300E On 20/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/19/2007 7:56:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I am goin

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aliminum wheels; tightening torque; meaning of words

2007-08-19 Thread E M
No, I agree with your point Robert. Torque figures are very accurate for a reason, and I do my best to follow them and get as close to them as possible at all times. However, in my original post, I don't have a problem throwing out a number like 250, as I've felt 200 before and this felt like mor

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aliminum wheels; tightening torque; meaning of words

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
I agree 100% about your "Words do have meaning" statement and I agree that in the Engineering world, communication is very literal indeed. But I have learned that non-engineers communicate in more abstract, often making statements that have implied meaning. By "Recovering Engineer" I mean I've lear

Re: [MBZ] Air filters and dust

2007-08-19 Thread Robert Bigham
Can you pull a leg of panty hose over the housing for a pre filter? Use the No Nonsense $2 kind from Wal Mart, which come in sizes. Hold on with zip tie if appropriate. That's an old dirt track racer's trick. Keeps the big stuff out for sure, and catches and holds lots of dust. Cheap and effect

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aliminum wheels; tightening torque; meaning of words

2007-08-19 Thread Robert Bigham
"The difference between the word that is correct and the word that is almost correct is the difference between lightning and lightning bugs." - attributed to Winston Churchill. Maybe he merely meant the spherical collar screws were tighter than he had ever seen or imagined. I can buy that. The

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread Robert Bigham
Also, we should not forget that the torque required to break a bolt loose may be only vaguely unrelated to the torque to which it was tightened. Corrosion, heat, and all that. - Original Message - From: E M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 8/19/2007 10:56:51 PM Su

Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Rambo goes fishing

2007-08-19 Thread archer
True. Always wondered why PETA hasn't gone after fishermen. If we put a carrot on a hook, snagged a bunny rabbit in the lip, reeled him in, and held him under water until he drowned; PETA would be knocking on our door in short order. Years ago the Norwegians or Swedes found that if they electr

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Air Filter service life.

2007-08-19 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 8/19/2007 7:56:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am going broke buying air filters for my three 300d's. The Kalifornia version air filter at almost 50 bux a pop really hurts. What I am looking for are some ways and wisdom to get some more se

Re: [MBZ] OT: Free Mac

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Back when I was using Macs, there was a site called, "lowendmac" or something to that effect. I think they had a list for each model, as well a stuff for sale page. It was a good place to get advise, or pick up some cheap parts for a project. Not sure if they're still around, but there were a lo

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Funny thing is, I had the wheel on the other side off about 2 weeks ago just to take a quick look at the pads. The bolts on that side felt over tight too, but nothing like the other side, and the rim came right off without any trouble. Maybe I should upgrade to a set of F1 rims with a single cent

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread E M
To be honest, with a 3 foot length of pipe, I had to "jerk" the pipe to break them lose. Even after allowing them to heat sink, they were by far the tightest lugbolts I have ever felt. I really was worried that the wheel was damaged, but it seems ok, no visable hairline cracks anyway. Ed 300E O

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
A lot of people don't realize that a torqued fastener takes more torque to remove than it took to tighten. I've had to remove lug bolts that I've tightened myself to 85 lb ft with a 4' pipe. The impact wrench would not make them budge. This happened recently on my 01 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I was doi

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Air Filter service life.

2007-08-19 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
Just beat it on something, or blow it out with air. If you want to get fancy, just pull into one of the few zillion offroad specialty places in Phoenix and they shouldn't have any trouble fitting your filter with a washable pre filter. --Robert Marshall Field wrote: > I am going broke buyi

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Air Filter service life.

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
You are replacing your filter way too soon at 2,500 miles, I believe that 35,000 miles is more the norm. If you really want to get scientific about "when" then you need to install a vacuum gauge with the pickup through the lid of your air cleaner housing. You'll notice some drop even with a new fi

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread E M
I've read about 85 f/lbs dry. When I had to put a 3 foot length of pipe on the wrench to get enough torque on it to remove them, I couldn't believe, even with an air gun, some idiot could get them on that tight! While cheaning the inside of the rim, once off, it gave me a chance to see just what

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
I don't think he was serious about the 250 ft lb, just stressing the fact that they were way over-torqued. That's OK, I was an Engineer once but now I'm a "Recovering Engineer". Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Air Filter service life.

2007-08-19 Thread Warren561
Where are you buying the filters? BAP Import Parts? When I had my 240D (123.123), I'd change the air filter after about 5000 miles. Usually a few "smacks" on the ground caused enough debris to fall out that I never felt bad about putting it back in. -Warren Marshall Field wrote: > I am going

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread Robert Bigham
I'm glad to hear you are not that brave. Some of the listers are. - Original Message - From: E M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Mercedes Discussion List Sent: 8/19/2007 5:03:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels Hee hee, I should have proof read that Robert. I drove the car,

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread Robert Bigham
250 ft lb is way too much torque on spherical collar screws holding on steel or alloy road wheels. My Daimler Benz Passenger Car Technical Data book says tighten them to 110 NM, equal roughly to 81 ft lb if I didn't botch the conversion. No wonder they are hard to get off when torqued to 250

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Air Filter service life.

2007-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
blow them out with compressed air. Marshall Field wrote: > I am going broke buying air filters for my three 300d's. The Kalifornia > version air filter at almost 50 bux a pop really hurts. What I am looking > for are some ways and wisdom to get some more service life out of the air > filters. >

[MBZ] Diesel Air Filter service life.

2007-08-19 Thread Marshall Field
I am going broke buying air filters for my three 300d's. The Kalifornia version air filter at almost 50 bux a pop really hurts. What I am looking for are some ways and wisdom to get some more service life out of the air filters. Yes, all the usual stuff has been looked at and brought up to spec.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Free Mac

2007-08-19 Thread Ed Booher
On 8/19/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Can an ordinary IDE DVD-ROM drive be substituted for the CD-RW? > If so, how does one get the old drive out and the new one in? > Yes The plastic front with the CD door and possibly a Zip floppy slot is itself a door. Once you open

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
If its bad then the only solution is a replacement. The reed vibrates, modifying the fuel distributor lower chamber, adjusting your fuel mixture. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 8/19/07 9:14 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Hi Tom, How easy it is to take apart? I ask this without even having looked at it yet. Will I be required to buy any new bits to re-assemble it all? Thanks again, Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Look at the small rectangular box that's attached to the side of t

Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks

2007-08-19 Thread OK Don
That used to be a favorite trick with the VW Microbus, back in the day On 8/19/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw one of those last week in KY when I was visiting my dad. I don't > think it was a runner, but someone had taken out the center section of > some sort of little va

Re: [MBZ] OT: Free Mac

2007-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
What os is on it now? what is the processor speed? my thought is this. if you don't have 10.4 on it no, get a BNIB retail copy of os x 10.4.6 (about 80 bucks on ebay) and then get a superdrive (under 100 bucks) to replace the cd drive. ram is fine as is. you can add a big hard drive for like 6

Re: [MBZ] Light beer and hotdogs: was Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
Might I suggest a magazine subscription for his next birthday, in the interest of diversity and education? http://www.vegetariantimes.com/ On 8/19/07, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That is all I buy. The rest are "butts & guts". I have so spoiled my kids > pallets that they won't e

Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Rambo goes fishing

2007-08-19 Thread LWB250
When I worked for Kohler we used to get calls on these really weird "high cycle" (180Hz) generators we made years ago for a concrete finishing company that used them to power those paddle things to smooth out slabs. Seems that the high frequency power works well when it comes to shocking fish, too

Re: [MBZ] OT: Free Mac

2007-08-19 Thread LWB250
Sounds like a Quicksilver, based on the boot ROM version and the video card. They should get a new Pioneer DVD-ROM drive from OWC. If you get one without the software bundle, it's about 30 bucks. Takes about 10 minutes to install. Instruction are supplied. It can handle up to two IDE drives, i

Re: [MBZ] OT: Free Mac

2007-08-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Hmm, assuming the G4 cases open like the B&W G3 cases, there is a latch on the side, lift it up and the MB carrier and side will open out and down. You can then unclip the cover over the CD-RW drive. This will reveal a pair of retaining screw, take them out and unplug the cables, the entire c

[MBZ] OT: Free Mac

2007-08-19 Thread Craig McCluskey
My next door neighbor was given a free Mac recently. It's: - Power Mac G4 - EMC #1896 - S/N XB14315MKSL - 896 MB RAM (128 + 256 + 512) - 40 GB disk - CD-RW drive - ZIP drive - NV11 (whatever that is) - Boot ROM version 4.25f1 His questions are: - Can an ordinary IDE DVD-ROM drive be substituted

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread Hendrik
The reason you don't see the high RPM is because the tranny is determining engine idle, in this type of situation the car can still be driven but it is advisable to shift into N but not P while stationary and shift into gear with your foot off the brake, which puts less strain on the drive trai

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Look at the small rectangular box that's attached to the side of the fuel distributor. It contains a reed valve & the reed may be cracked. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread John Freer
Ed, that's because the transmission is trying to bring the rpm's down to normal in D. Shift to N or P and you will see the RPM's move up the scale. Using the A/C will bring the RPM's down somewhat. When my problem first appeared, I would shift into N at a long stop light but that's not good for

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
The symptoms - high RPM when out of gear just means that the engine is being forced to run slower when in gear and all of that extra energy is being dumped into the transmission when it's in gear. And the torque converter is converting it into heat & if it gets hot enough, you won't be going too fa

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread E M
I last check the 02 with a dwell meter off the test terminal on the inside fender about a month ago. At that time, it was fine. I am "somewhat" familiar with a CIS system, not an expert, but have kind of a working knowledge of most of the systems. Not sure about the temp sensor though, as I don'

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Hi John, yes, I'm sure you are right in that the added pressure is being transfered to the tranny, though of course you don't see the high rpm until the load is taken off the trans, and the car is parked. Funny enough, today, the problem seems to have been somewhat fixed, under similar driving con

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread Hendrik
When is the last time you tested your O2 sensor, in a KE car the O2 sensor is the most important input when the car is at operating range. If it is telling the system that the exhaust is lean then the FI computer will try and dump more fuel into the motor. However if this is an intermittent probl

Re: [MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread John Freer
Ed, when you are stopped in D with this high idle problem, you are putting extreme pressure on the transmission which will lead very shortly to a Ka Blamo of the transmission. Don't drive it until you can get this serious problem fixed. My 92 500SL is now sitting in my garage as undriveable until

Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Rambo goes fishing

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Not done that but I've done hand crank generator fishing. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Was: RA

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Maybe too, we mercedes owners are a little more fussy with maintance and have the wheels off more often, so it's not such a problem. I nearly pulled the car off the axle stands before reaching for the hammer! :-) Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Robert Bigham

[MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Rambo goes fishing

2007-08-19 Thread Hendrik
Sure as long as it is dynamite fishing. If it don't go bang it ain't no fun. Tom Hargrave wrote: > How about discussing fishing? This should be a little more palletable > subject for the anti-handgun folks. > > You know, the act of presenting a tasty bit of food to an unsuspect > fish, only to sna

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when you torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two things can kind of stick themselves together! :-) ( Note to me: never never leave the car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!) All fixed

Re: [MBZ] Dodge 600

2007-08-19 Thread Peter T . Arnold
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:51:46 -0600, you wrote: >On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:18:00 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Probably the same way they do it on the 103/104. >> >> Craig McCluskey wrote: >> > On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:43:25 -0400 Peter T. Arnold >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Hee hee, I should have proof read that Robert. I drove the car, and "then" allowed it to heat sink before before trying the bolts again!!! :-) Not even I"m brave (stupid) enough to drive the car around withou any bolts holding on the wheels!!! ha ha ha. Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAI

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread Mitch Haley
Robert Bigham wrote: > > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. Usually caused by corrosion bonding between the wheel center hole and the hub. Give both a few strokes with a wire brush. I've had to loosen lugs and drive back

Re: [MBZ] Stuck wheel!!!!!

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Thanks Peter, This wheel was by no way torqued correctly!! I had to put a 3 foot piece of pipe on the wrench to get the bolts out!! Wonder the rotors didnt look like salad bowls, but them seem ok. I always do the back of the rotor where it meets the hug too. Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Peter Frederic

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Yu have another problem - the wheel should sit flush with the hub with no interference. With the last one of these I had, the lip on the inside of the wheel was damaged. Adding anti-seize is just working around the issue. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] Light beer and hot dogs was Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Robert Bigham
John Boy and Billy advertise (fictional, I think) potted meat as "Full of peckers and lips since 1938." Southern boys will know about John Boy and Billy. Others may not. Their loss. Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:26:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Light beer and hotdogs: was Mobil 1 gun oil "Rick

Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels

2007-08-19 Thread Robert Bigham
I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great invent

Re: [MBZ] Stuck wheel!!!!!

2007-08-19 Thread Peter Frederick
A very light coating of ant-iseize will work. I also put a very thin layer of anti-seize on the face of the hub when installing a new rotor, too. However, I've never seen a stuck alloy wheel with correctly torqued lug bolts. either. Peter ___ http://www.o

Re: [MBZ] Ioway

2007-08-19 Thread Wonko the Sane
In places, but in others surprisingly hilly. On 8/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <> > > Flat. > > RLE > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > __

Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
How about discussing fishing? This should be a little more palletable subject for the anti-handgun folks. You know, the act of presenting a tasty bit of food to an unsuspect fish, only to snag sensitive mouth parts with a barbed hook, causing unimaginable amounts of pain, followed by dragging the

[MBZ] Ignition Lock Housing Replacement

2007-08-19 Thread johnvi
List- Has anyone ever replaced a Ignition Lock Housing (link below) on a 123 Chassis (240D) car? How did you do it? or, what page of what manual tells how it is done. Thank you, John Ingram 83 240D 245K http://catalog.worldpac.com/buymb/022406/wizard.jsp?header=http://www.buymbparts.com/he

Re: [MBZ] Was: RAMBO ... Now: Mobil 1

2007-08-19 Thread Gary Thompson
Somehow, I suspected that. Truly evil thinking, that is... Gary Thompson On 8/18/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was trying to start a new oil thread so we could talk about something > other than guns and penis size. ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Ioway

2007-08-19 Thread RELNGSON
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Re: [MBZ] Light beer and hotdogs: was Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Rick Knoble
> The big question is, to steam or boil?? :-) Steam. >I like to wash down my dogs > with German wheat beer. Oh ya! ;-) Sadly, I know not when to say when, so Pepsi or IBC for me. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new par

Re: [MBZ] Light beer and hotdogs: was Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
any one of the classic new york beef hotdogs are super good. a nathans grilled with kraut and a touch of mustard is really as good as it gets. the few times i've been to coney island (not a good neighborhood since lindsay and moses, two of the most evil men in the history of the rogues gallery th

Re: [MBZ] Light beer and hotdogs: was Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread E M
The big question is, to steam or boil?? :-) I like to wash down my dogs with German wheat beer. Oh ya! ;-) Ed 300E On 19/08/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I had never had a Nathan's hot dog in my life until > last year. I am sold. There is no equal. > > Dan (who was the only Gentile

Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live

2007-08-19 Thread LWB250
And that certainly is true for the fall/winter months, but you have to admit, when the sun comes out and it warms up, the Portland area is a glorious place. I used to come out early for work and spend the weekends at Cannon Beach (token reference to weapons.) The first time I was in Portland was

Re: [MBZ] Light beer and hotdogs: was Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread LWB250
I had never had a Nathan's hot dog in my life until last year. I am sold. There is no equal. Dan (who was the only Gentile in the neighborhood he grew up in) --- Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hotdogs: Beginning with the best were: Hebrew > National kosher beef, > > Nathans Fam

Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live

2007-08-19 Thread LWB250
Valrico, which is east of Tampa, east of I-75 & 301 about 9 miles, to be more specific. If it wasn't for the flora, fauna and architecture, you would think you were in the Midwest, considering the backgrounds of most of the people who live around me. I don't think there's a native Floridian in t

Re: [MBZ] Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread E M
I tend not to make political statements, they're all just tools and machines in my eyes. How you choose to use them is up to you. To seperate out the those who use guns for sport from the other mentioned hobbyist, may be more of a political statement than linking them all together. :-) Ed 300E O

Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live

2007-08-19 Thread BillR
I'll still take many parts of FL over VA and IN where I have lived. I was born and raised here so that probably slants my view. Where are you? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 8:04

Re: [MBZ] Light beer and hotdogs: was Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Rick Knoble
> Hotdogs: Beginning with the best were: Hebrew National kosher beef, > Nathans Famous beef That is all I buy. The rest are "butts & guts". I have so spoiled my kids pallets that they won't eat any other hot dog and YES they CAN tell the difference. My 14 y/o son even likes onions and garlic.

[MBZ] Stuck wheel!!!!!

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the bolts off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allow

[MBZ] high E300 gasser idle

2007-08-19 Thread E M
Hi everyone, Was out yesterday and got caught in traffic. Drove from about an hour, with a lot of bumper to bumper traffic. When I came to a stop, as in end of trip, and put the car into Park, the idle climbed to between 1700-2000 rpm. At stop in traffic, it would idle about 1000 rpm, but it fel

Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live

2007-08-19 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
I know what you mean about the cloud cover. I lived across the river from Portland in the hills outside of Vancouver for a few years. I was traveling for work, and every time I was heading home with plans, everything was soggy and gray . It got old pretty quick I'll never forget my well adapted

Re: [MBZ] Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
watch guys, car guys, camera guys -- tons of overlap. watch guys and pen guys for reasons i can't fathom. watch guys tend to be car guys. gun guys might be more a political statement than linking o the rest, at least it is with me. On 8/19/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think most

Re: [MBZ] Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread E M
I think most companies that were able, made some supplies for the war. Many made the .45, including Singer, the sewing machine company. I also helped work on restoring a plane that had V12 Merlins made by Maytag, the washing machine company. hee hee. I think Packard made them too, and the word w

Re: [MBZ] Using Beer as gun oil, I recommend stout

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Only if you hammer the tinfoil out from spent rounds that were originally cast in Ireland & shot at someone by the IRA. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, August 19,

Re: [MBZ] Using Beer as gun oil, I recommend stout

2007-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
is it good for lubing tinfoil helmets? On 8/19/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should move to England the home of Beer porrige, I remember when we > first landed at Waterloo station we had to have a wee drink to get over > all the customs BS. > Anyway we find ourself a cosy little p

Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks

2007-08-19 Thread Rich Thomas
I saw one of those last week in KY when I was visiting my dad. I don't think it was a runner, but someone had taken out the center section of some sort of little van (not a full size, like one of those tiny jap delivery vans). Thing had about a 5 ft wheelbase if that. Looked kinda funny, the

Re: [MBZ] Death sats - was: Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, it's funny dan when your government wants to kill women and children for absolutely no reason beyond because they can . just makes me proud to be an american. i understand killing iraqi children because, y'know, they are just effin towel heads anyway so why not let our boys have a fun outlet

Re: [MBZ] Death sats - was: Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Actually, none of these items are designed to kill including firearms, airbags, cars, etc. And to get down to just firearms - they are design to launch a projectile, very fast & very accurately. It's people who choose to use them to kill. I personally have had many hours of fun on a shooting rang

Re: [MBZ] Death sats - was: Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread LWB250
Gary - are you going to cover her therapy costs when she get older? Or just supply her with foil helmets? MacDan --- Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > us spec airbags are designed to kill. my 10 year > old wants to know why her > government wants her dead. i told her it isn't > pers

Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live

2007-08-19 Thread LWB250
Oy gevalt! You can't imagine the idiots, although many of them are from out of state... Haven't lived in Iowa, but did some work in Des Moines and northern Iowa (for Winnebago in Mason City.) Washington and Oregon are nice in the summer, but I'm not sure i could put up with the cloud cover from

Re: [MBZ] Death sats - was: Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Gary Hurst
us spec airbags are designed to kill. my 10 year old wants to know why her government wants her dead. i told her it isn't personally as they want us all to fear death from them another means of control. On 8/19/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So you are trying to tell me that cars are

Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt

2007-08-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 8/19/07, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Regular belt replacement is especially important on Acura and Honda engines > because almost every one of these engines is an interference design! The > only exceptions are the 3.2L V6 in the 1998 and newer Acura SLX models, and > the 3.2L V6 in 19

Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
That was the plan, maybe I'll still do it. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break o

Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks

2007-08-19 Thread archer
> Tom Hargrave wrote: >A friend of mine was rear-ended years ago in his 74 Caddy. He had the rear > sheet metal welded on from a 1959, the one with the very tall tail fins. > The > body shop actually did a respectable job and it actually looked good for a > 59/74 (or 74/59, depending if you were c

Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tick, tick, tick, very fast under the hood?

2007-08-19 Thread Harry Watkins
Thanks Marshall, I'll unplug it and hope it resets itself. Harry On 8/18/07, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Harry Watkins wrote: > > Rob (welcome to the list) is trying to rob my thread (grin). My tick, > tick > > is under the hood, not under the dash. It starts when the key is

Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks

2007-08-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
A friend of mine was rear-ended years ago in his 74 Caddy. He had the rear sheet metal welded on from a 1959, the one with the very tall tail fins. The body shop actually did a respectable job and it actually looked good for a 59/74 (or 74/59, depending if you were coming or going) Fleetwood Cadill

[MBZ] CarChip E/X,Blackbox for your car

2007-08-19 Thread Rich Thomas
This thing appears to be a data logger that plugs into your OBDII (if you have one) that lets you record and analyze whatever is going on in your car from whatever parameters you can capture from the computer. Would be easier maybe than fooling around with a GPS, and give you more info too.

Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live

2007-08-19 Thread archer
Example of idiots? Florida in general has often been called a human jungle. Iowa and Washington/Oregon are my favorite states as well as central coastal California. Gerry - Original Message - From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Having lived in the Midwest, San Francisco and now > Flor

Re: [MBZ] OT Honda Timing Belt

2007-08-19 Thread archer
> Gerry, > Here's something that might be of help. Note the * footnotes. > http://www.gates.com/downloads/download_common.cfm?file=TBR05.pdf&folder=brochure > John --- Thanks, John. Gates.com would come up but not the above URL. Their server that handl

Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks

2007-08-19 Thread archer
Little girl in Atlanta slid on wet pavement and squished the back end of my '67 200D. Body shop couldn't fix it and couldn't find a used back end. Bodyman took a bunch of measurements, took me out behind the shop, and showed me the back end of a car which he said could be welded on the 200D an

Re: [MBZ] Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread archer
> No we don't, we used too but had a shooting in Pt. Arthur in which a > nutter got a hold of an unsecured assault rifle and shot 30+ people. > Enter the genius Government and worla, a little old gun buyback scheme > later and no more guns. Well, criminals still have guns but that is > different, a

Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live

2007-08-19 Thread LWB250
Having lived in the Midwest, San Francisco and now Florida, I can say without question that the Midwest was (is) best. Florida, at least the part of Florida I live in, is nothing short of Hell on Earth populated by idiots. Dan --- Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Iowa is a very nice

Re: [MBZ] Pinto Deja Vu

2007-08-19 Thread LWB250
Living in Florida you get to see a lot of old cars still on the road. For example, I saw a Vega wagon the other day on the way to work. Think about how many of those are now working as fence posts after having been melted down for scrap. There is a Pacer I see regularly at the grocer's, too. I

Re: [MBZ] Death sats - was: Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread archer
Hendrik wrote: >> Ooooh goody, here come 200 posts about what oil is best for your killing >> machine, I can hardly wait. >> Don't the National Rambo Association have any forums for this kind of >> stuff? Do we really have to have 2000+ posts about guns on a Mercedes >> forum, when MB don't even m

Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks

2007-08-19 Thread Hendrik
Yeah but the RR grille on the VW is so over the top that in a way it is cool. Seriously though I do wonder whether there is a copyright infringment by placing an auto makers symbol on another car, I am pretty sure that the VW jobby did not have the RR symbol or the lady on the rad but I could b

Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks

2007-08-19 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
Not quite as tacky as the old Rolls Royce looking front end on the Beatle trick, but tacky none the less . -Robert Hendrik wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290151352486&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1 > This person should be sued for a number of reasons but unfortunat

Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law

2007-08-19 Thread mykd1
Consider the history of the 1911 .45 and its flawless performance in the military and there isn't much out there that can compete. I managed to get my hands on a postwar 1911 and I have to admit there is no question why it was so popular. As a happy medium though I prefer my .40 Sig as a home de

[MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks

2007-08-19 Thread Hendrik
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290151352486&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1 This person should be sued for a number of reasons but unfortunately bad taste is not possible. I wonder how Daimler feel about this? Although I do have secret fantasies about putting a Toyota front on my

Re: [MBZ] Death sats - was: Now: Mobil 1 gun oil

2007-08-19 Thread Hendrik
So you are trying to tell me that cars are designed to kill intentionally, I suppose you're argument would be that firearms are designed only for self defense? I suppose if you want to split hairs that is your prerogative but my way of looking at it that cars are designed to transport people fro