Re: XML::LibXSLT / Apache / MOD_Perl Segfaults

2002-04-30 Thread D. Hageman
I should note then that it will also segfault if I don't attempt to preload it and just 'use' it in a module. The only difference is that the backtrace is significantly longer. :-) On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote: > D. Hageman wrote: > > I am having some issues utilizing XML::LibXSL

Re: XML::LibXSLT / Apache / MOD_Perl Segfaults

2002-04-30 Thread Matt Sergeant
D. Hageman wrote: > I am having some issues utilizing XML::LibXSLT into a mod_perl application > I am working on. The problem displays itself as a segfault on server > startup. The setup I have is a standard RedHat 7.2 box with the following > updated packages: > > apache 1.3.23 > mod_perl 1

XML::LibXSLT / Apache / MOD_Perl Segfaults

2002-04-30 Thread D. Hageman
I am having some issues utilizing XML::LibXSLT into a mod_perl application I am working on. The problem displays itself as a segfault on server startup. The setup I have is a standard RedHat 7.2 box with the following updated packages: apache 1.3.23 mod_perl 1.26 libxml2 2.4.21 libxslt 1.0.

Re: Apache/Mod_Perl in Production Env-- NOT Recommended in Windows?

2002-04-19 Thread Chuck Goehring
nd Doug makes it all possible. Chuck - Original Message - From: "Per Einar Ellefsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arul, Rex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:24 AM Subject: Re: Apache/Mod_Perl in Production Env--

RE: Re: Apache/Mod_Perl in Production Env-- NOT Recommended inWindows?

2002-04-18 Thread Randy Kobes
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Arul, Rex wrote: > Thanks Per. But should the stoic silence for this poser of > mine, be construed as there are NO takers out there who have > their Web Sites in Production, running out of Apache 1.XX and > Mod-Perl 1.XX on Windows NT/2000? >From private correspondence I kno

RE: Re: Apache/Mod_Perl in Production Env-- NOT Recommended inWindows?

2002-04-18 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
At 16:57 18.04.2002, Arul, Rex wrote: >Thanks Per. But should the stoic silence for this poser of mine, be >construed as there are NO takers out there who have their Web Sites in >Production, running out of Apache 1.XX and Mod-Perl 1.XX on Windows NT/2000? > >Primarily we are a Microsoft shop, a

RE: Re: Apache/Mod_Perl in Production Env-- NOT Recommended inWindows?

2002-04-18 Thread Arul, Rex
Thanks Per. But should the stoic silence for this poser of mine, be construed as there are NO takers out there who have their Web Sites in Production, running out of Apache 1.XX and Mod-Perl 1.XX on Windows NT/2000? Primarily we are a Microsoft shop, and I would like to answer this question to

Re: Apache/Mod_Perl in Production Env-- NOT Recommended in Windows?

2002-04-18 Thread Per Einar Ellefsen
At 03:48 18.04.2002, Arul, Rex wrote: >Friends, > >I know Apache/Mod_Perl on OS other than Windows to be the trend du juor. >However, I am in jitters seeing this explicit warning given in >http://www.perl.com web-portal. > >"NOTE: it is not recommended to use Win

Apache/Mod_Perl in Production Env-- NOT Recommended in Windows?

2002-04-17 Thread Arul, Rex
Friends, I know Apache/Mod_Perl on OS other than Windows to be the trend du juor. However, I am in jitters seeing this explicit warning given in http://www.perl.com web-portal. "NOTE: it is not recommended to use Windows for production Apache/mod_perl servers; Apache/mod_perl 1.x is not

RE: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-22 Thread Les Mikesell
> From: Bill McCabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:21 AM > To: modperl > Subject: Re: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl > > > Over the last year I've been slowly working on a similar system > in my spare time > (of which I have non

Re: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-21 Thread Bill McCabe
Over the last year I've been slowly working on a similar system in my spare time (of which I have none). To do systems monitoring and reporting I'm using mod_perl on the front end and communicating with remote systems via XML::RPC. The XML::RPC server on the remote system runs local command via pe

Re: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-21 Thread Bas A. Schulte
Hi, On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 11:39 AM, Ilya Martynov wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:40:24 +0100, Bas A.Schulte >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > BAS> To handle a large number of concurrent transactions in a > BAS> transaction-safe environment without me having to worry too much

Re: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-21 Thread Ilya Martynov
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:40:24 +0100, Bas A.Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: BAS> To handle a large number of concurrent transactions in a BAS> transaction-safe environment without me having to worry too much about BAS> concurrency issues and referential integrity I will slowly move to BAS>

Re: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-21 Thread Bas A. Schulte
Issac, On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 11:01 AM, Issac Goldstand wrote: > Bas A.Schulte wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've been meaning to write an article about how I used Apache/mod_perl >> to implement a mobile SMS application platform as it demonstrates use &g

Re: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-21 Thread Issac Goldstand
Bas A.Schulte wrote: > Hi, > > I've been meaning to write an article about how I used Apache/mod_perl > to implement a mobile SMS application platform as it demonstrates use > of Apache/mod_perl outside the Web realm, something I hadn't seen so > far. Time

Re: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-21 Thread Stas Bekman
Bas A.Schulte wrote: > Hi, > > I've been meaning to write an article about how I used Apache/mod_perl > to implement a mobile SMS application platform as it demonstrates use of > Apache/mod_perl outside the Web realm, something I hadn't seen so far. > Time

Re: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-20 Thread Bas A . Schulte
Hi, On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 12:57 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: > Have you tried Postgresql? It's a free, fast, ACID compliant database. > I have it compiled & running within a few hours, not knowing much of > anything about it before hand. From what I've read the speed is > comparable w/ my

Re: Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-20 Thread Drew Taylor
Have you tried Postgresql? It's a free, fast, ACID compliant database. I have it compiled & running within a few hours, not knowing much of anything about it before hand. From what I've read the speed is comparable w/ mysql for most applications. Drew At 12:40 AM 3/21/2002 +0100, Bas A.Schult

Non-web use for Apache/mod_perl

2002-03-20 Thread Bas A . Schulte
Hi, I've been meaning to write an article about how I used Apache/mod_perl to implement a mobile SMS application platform as it demonstrates use of Apache/mod_perl outside the Web realm, something I hadn't seen so far. Time constraints (as always) have prevented me from doing thi

Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix

2002-02-06 Thread Will Waggoner
I agree that Apache Toolbox does a nice job for apache/mod_perl installation -- even goes out and gets the source for you. I would like to mention that I got a great deal of benefit from the INSTALL document from the mod_ssl distribution -- it contains many examples of configuring and compiling

Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix

2002-02-06 Thread Paul Lindner
t's a pretty good stab at showing a novice how to compile and install apache+mod_perl (though not mod_ssl... alas) The complete chapter is online at http://www.modperlcookbook.org/ Regards, Paul On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 12:04:19AM +, Ged Haywood wrote: > Hi there, > >

Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache +mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix

2002-02-06 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi there, On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Rod Butcher wrote: > professionals are being driven mad, despite reading the Guide (which despite > being complete is still mysterious, it comes across as having a mission > statement to contain everything rather than to be useful, sorry). Patches, chapters, help

Re: Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix

2002-02-06 Thread Rod Butcher
sue now or somebody else other than M$ will do it. regards, Rod - Original Message - From: "timj_moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:01 AM Subject: Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe othe

RE: Solaris + Apache + mod_perl = TROUBLE

2002-01-22 Thread stevea
I apologize, I'm afraid I was lost in my brevity :). showrev -p will return a list of installed Solaris system patches. >>> Try showrev -p for a list of installed patches. -Original Message- From: Philip M. Gollucci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Re: Solaris + Apa

RE: Solaris + Apache + mod_perl = TROUBLE

2002-01-22 Thread stevea
Try showrev -p for a list of installed patches. -Original Message- From: Philip M. Gollucci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: Re: Solaris + Apache + mod_perl = TROUBLE I can't control what patches they have or have not applied... Is there anyway I can check myself ? I'm

Re: Solaris + Apache + mod_perl = TROUBLE

2002-01-22 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Actually I tried that exact configure line one of the millions I tried it for perl, and it got to make, where I got millions of undefined PL_* errors. I can't control what patches they have or have not applied... Is there anyway I can check myself ? I'm more of a BSD/FreeBSD expert. ---

Re: Solaris + Apache + mod_perl = TROUBLE

2002-01-22 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
Thanks for the trouble time though. -- Philip M. Gollucci (p6m7g8) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 301.314.3118 Science, Discovery, & the Universe (UMCP) Webmaster & Webship Teacher URL: http://www.sdu.umd.edu EJPress

Re: Solaris + Apache + mod_perl = TROUBLE

2002-01-21 Thread John D Groenveld
> I have system (Solaris 2.6) which I do NOT have root on... (now I know why that > doesn't happen often) No problem. Make sure root has applied the latest recommended patch set for 2.6. > At anyrate, I need to install perl5.6.1 ... I'll pay anyone able to do without > using a binary release (on

Solaris + Apache + mod_perl = TROUBLE

2002-01-18 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
I have system (Solaris 2.6) which I do NOT have root on... (now I know why that doesn't happen often) At anyrate, I need to install perl5.6.1 ... I'll pay anyone able to do without using a binary release (on this particular solaris system (yes its that bad), Apache Apache-1.3.22 from source, and

Re: BSD::Resource und apache/mod_perl

2002-01-10 Thread Christoph Bergmann
Perrin Harkins wrote: > > The difference is that Apache::Resource should apply this limit to each > new child process. When you do this from the shell, you are limiting > the parent Apache process, which isn't very useful. I put use BSD::Resource; setrlimit RLIMIT_AS, 3200, 6400; at t

Re: BSD::Resource und apache/mod_perl

2002-01-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
> PerlModule Apache::Resource > PerlSetEnv PERL_RLIMIT_AS 32:64 > PerlChildInitHandler Apache::Resource > > in httpd.conf, but Apache::Resource uses BSD::Resource in the end and > thus its the same as > > use BSD::Resource; > setrlimit RLIMIT_AS, 3200, 6400; The difference is that Apache:

Re: BSD::Resource und apache/mod_perl

2002-01-09 Thread Christoph Bergmann
RLIMIT_AS, 3200, 6400; at top of the test script. I use "setrlimit" directly so I could test if BSD::Resource works at all - and it DOES if run from the shell - but it does NOT if run from Apache/mod_perl. What could cause the different behaviour?? Best regards, Christoph Bergman

Re: BSD::Resource und apache/mod_perl

2002-01-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
> has anybody any ideas? Apache::Resource.

BSD::Resource und apache/mod_perl

2002-01-09 Thread Christoph Bergmann
tml\n\ntest..."; use BSD::Resource; setrlimit RLIMIT_AS, 3200, 6400; for($i=0; $i<600; $i++) { $a.="dsafadsfadsfadfhakdhfkjaf"; } print "ok"; but it stops IMMEDIATELY with "out of memory"/"document contains no data" if called

RE: Apache - mod_perl - Windows

2001-11-28 Thread Jonathan M. Hollin
:: > I have set up several Windows / Apache / mod_perl servers without any :: > problems whatsoever. I would recommend the following (in order): :: :: Alternately: http://savage.net.au/Perl.html#Configuring-Apache Nice one Ron. That's excellent documentation. Cheers. Jonatha

Re: Apache - mod_perl - Windows

2001-11-28 Thread Ron Savage
Folks See below. Cheers Ron Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savage.net.au/index.html > :: My question is: > :: 1. is there a way to get a precompiled windows version running (I don't > :: want to reset my Apache server to some ancient version!) > > I have set up seve

Re: Apache - mod_perl - Windows

2001-11-27 Thread Alessandro Forghieri
Greetings. You may be in need of AddModule mod_perl.c After the ClearModuleList somewhere around line 207 of httpd.conf as distributed. (What's ClearModuleList's used for anyway? I never really understood it - but then again, I never really read its documentation...) As for mod_perl on win32,

Re: Apache - mod_perl - Windows

2001-11-27 Thread Randy Kobes
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Albrecht Fortenbacher wrote: > I tried to install precompiled mod_perl within an Apache 1.3.22 server > on Windows 2000 as indicated on http://perl.apache.org, and this failed > (error message below). [ .. ] > --

RE: Apache - mod_perl - Windows

2001-11-27 Thread Jonathan M. Hollin
know Unix so that kind of limits my opportunities. :-( :: My question is: :: 1. is there a way to get a precompiled windows version running (I don't :: want to reset my Apache server to some ancient version!) I have set up several Windows / Apache / mod_perl servers without any problems what

Apache - mod_perl - Windows

2001-11-27 Thread Albrecht Fortenbacher
th make- and cc-Utilities (e.g. from cygwin), and is there an *easy* indication how to do it or 3. is Apache/mod_perl and windows an invalid combination which simply should not be used??? Thanks in advance Albrecht Fortenbacher --

RE: Apache-mod_perl

2001-11-16 Thread Kyle Oppenheim
kar Pratiksha > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:05 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: Apache-mod_perl > > > Hello all, > We are facing a problem while configuring perl-module in Apache webserver > in the Solaris environment. > The Server configuratin is

Apache-mod_perl

2001-11-16 Thread Manjrekar Pratiksha
Hello all, We are facing a problem while configuring perl-module in Apache webserver in the Solaris environment. The Server configuratin is as follows: OS : Solaris 2.7 SunOS 5.7 Sparc machine. Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) mod_fastcgi/2.2.10 mod_perl/1.26 We have installed a VSWAP1.1.6 which is a WAP te

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-28 Thread Gunther Birznieks
One important thing THERE IS ALREADY A P5EE MAILING LIST GUYS!! :) So basically if you want to add your feedback, go there! It's already done but it's not too late to add feedback. :) email ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:36 AM 10/29/2001, Medi Montaseri wrote: >Similarly, this concept of

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl ateToys

2001-10-28 Thread Medi Montaseri
Similarly, this concept of Enterprise is a bugus idea ... from a pure computer science point of view, there is no such thing as an Enterprise. This is all Microsoft's branding trying to associate themselves with something big, and Sun is stupidly following it My vote is to come up with some

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-27 Thread Joe Brenner
> At 02:28 PM 10/23/2001 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: > >Stephen Adkins wrote: > >> If no one suggests an appropriate list, I propose starting a "p2ee" group > >Can I just say that P2EE is a horrible, horrible name? It includes the > >Java version number (when is J3EE coming out?), as well as

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-27 Thread Steven Lembark
> Exactly- the statically typed languages I am familiar with have a casting > mechanism to utterly subvert compile-time type checks. While static typing > allows better compile-time optimization, it's value as a debugging > mechanism is near the bottom of the list of advantages for engineering

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-27 Thread Joe Schaefer
Rob Nagler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Gunther wrote: > > If you do not have a strongly typed system, then when you break > > apart and rebuild another part of the system, Perl may very well not > > complain when a subtle bug comes up because of the fact that it is > > not strongly typed. Where

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-26 Thread Andy Wardley
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 12:02:00PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: > Perl Jewels (Joules?) Perl Oysters :-) A

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-26 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On 22 Oct 2001, Matthew Kennedy wrote: > Why was Berkeley DB chosen for caching when a RDBMS (mysql in > this case) was already being used? For speed. You want to hit the RDBMS as little as possibly; Berkeley DB makes a good cache. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !t

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-25 Thread Nathan Torkington
I suppose I should point out that perl.com is always interested in mod_perl articles. If you've learned lessons that others could benefit from, contact the perl.com editor, Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Nat

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-25 Thread Matthew Kennedy
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 12:31, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a nice graphicy map of what actually constitutes J2EE onto > which we can overlay the relevant perl bitz? Something like this: http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/api_map/ http://jav

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-25 Thread Tatsuhiko Miyagawa
On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Andrew Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I checked the list archives and it didn't look like this had been posted yet. > For those of you who haven't seen it yet... a great read on perl.com about > the Apache/mod_perl setup at eToy

Re: [OT] Perl daemons (was Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys)

2001-10-24 Thread Roger Espel Llima
Matthew Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why exactly is that a dirty secret? I've been thinking about > writing one or two standalone poe daemons to handle interfacing > with other systems, and it doesn't seem like such a bad idea. [ ... ] > Is anyone else using independent perl processes in

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-24 Thread Perrin Harkins
Matthew Kennedy wrote >Is there a Perl equivalent to Struts? Mason seems to come close if you >keep yourself disciplined somewhat. > I mentioned a couple of tools in the article that are specifically aimed at MVC: OpenInteract, and Apache::PageKit. Actually, I think it's pretty easy to replace

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-24 Thread Mike808
Nathan Torkington wrote: > I like the idea of P2EE. Yeah. Maybe it will take off better than "Pervlets" did. Mike808/ -- perl -le "$_='7284254074:0930970:H4012816';tr[0->][ BOPEN!SMUT];print"

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-24 Thread Perrin Harkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm surprised that no one has, jokingly, suggested PEE. > > Sorry, couldn't resist. :) Neither could these people: http://pee.sourceforge.net/

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 03:38 AM 10/24/2001, Stephen Adkins wrote: >At 02:28 PM 10/23/2001 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: > >Stephen Adkins wrote: > > > >> If no one suggests an appropriate list, I propose starting a "p2ee" group > > > > > >Can I just say that P2EE is a horrible, horrible name? It includes the > >Java

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread
I'm surprised that no one has, jokingly, suggested PEE. Sorry, couldn't resist. :) -- === "If you put three drops of poison into a 100 percent pure Java, you get - Windows. If you put a few drops of Java into Windows, you s

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread David Kaufman
"Robert Landrum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... A name is pretty important > and if it's acronym isn't easily recognized, it isn't going to gain > the support of developers. J2EE is catchy, so we need something > catchy. PEF isn't nearly as catchy as P2EE or P5EE or PEA (Perl > Enterprise API)

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Robert Landrum
At 3:38 PM -0400 10/23/01, Stephen Adkins wrote: >Several of you have made the same good point. >And now the naming flame war has already begun... ;-) This is a discussion. Something has been proposed and it needs a name. I'd hardly call this a flame war. A name is pretty important and if i

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Stephen Adkins
At 02:28 PM 10/23/2001 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: >Stephen Adkins wrote: > >> If no one suggests an appropriate list, I propose starting a "p2ee" group > > >Can I just say that P2EE is a horrible, horrible name? It includes the >Java version number (when is J3EE coming out?), as well as Sun's

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Rob Nagler
Gunther wrote: > If you do not have a strongly typed system, then when you break apart and > rebuild another part of the system, Perl may very well not complain when a > subtle bug comes up because of the fact that it is not strongly typed. > Whereas Java will complain quite often and usually earl

RE: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Wilt, Paul
List Subject: Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys Stephen Adkins wrote: > If no one suggests an appropriate list, I propose starting a "p2ee" group Can I just say that P2EE is a horrible, horrible name? It includes the Java version number

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
Stephen Adkins wrote: > If no one suggests an appropriate list, I propose starting a "p2ee" group Can I just say that P2EE is a horrible, horrible name? It includes the Java version number (when is J3EE coming out?), as well as Sun's desperate attempt to make it sound like something you buy

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Nathan Torkington
Stephen Adkins writes: > That would be great (as long as perl.org can host the CVS too). > My concern was that perl.org might not be as specialized in hosting > development teams as sourceforge.net. Do you support "viewcvs" > or similar for web browsing of the CVS repository? cvsweb. You can se

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Stephen Adkins
Nathan, At 11:06 AM 10/23/2001 -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: >Stephen Adkins writes: >> If no one suggests an appropriate list, I propose starting a "p2ee" group >> on SourceForge. This gives us mailing lists and a CVS repository for the >> artifacts of the effort (which will mostly be specifi

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Nathan Torkington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Leon Brocard writes: > > > Perhaps a port of JMS is in order. > > > > Interestingly, I've been thinking along the same lines. Spread > > (http://www.spread.org/) can be used for the publish/subscribe > > messaging domain but queueing seems to be im

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Robin Berjon
On Tuesday 23 October 2001 18:21, Stephen Adkins wrote: > This issue of a P2EE specification has come up before > (and I participated in the discussion), but since it is off-topic for > the mod_perl list, I would appreciate some referrals of where to go to > discuss this. > > If no one suggests an

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
Matthew Kennedy wrote: > On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 21:27, Perrin Harkins wrote: > >>It sounds like the limitation there is that you're interfacing with systems >>that can't notify you when something new happens. That's not Perl's fault. >>If you wrote your daemons in Java alpahabet soup, they'd sti

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Drew Taylor
At 10:11 AM 10/23/01 -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: >Leon Brocard writes: > > > Perhaps a port of JMS is in order. > > > > Interestingly, I've been thinking along the same lines. Spread > > (http://www.spread.org/) can be used for the publish/subscribe > > messaging domain but queueing seems to b

Re: [OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Nathan Torkington
Stephen Adkins writes: > If no one suggests an appropriate list, I propose starting a "p2ee" group > on SourceForge. This gives us mailing lists and a CVS repository for the > artifacts of the effort (which will mostly be specifications and > documentation, with maybe some Bundle files). I would

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Nathan Torkington wrote: > Of course, we couldn't call it a Java bean. They'd have to be Camel > droppings. :-) Perl Jewels (Joules?) -dave /*== www.urth.org We await the New Sun ==*/

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Matthew Kennedy
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 10:09, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > At 08:46 PM 10/23/2001, Rob Nagler wrote: > >I don't quite understand the difference between worflow in the front-end and > >workflow in the back-end. They both change. The danger of making one part > >of the system easier to change is that

[OT] P2EE Redux was: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Stephen Adkins
At 11:27 PM 10/23/2001 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote: >At 09:45 PM 10/23/2001, Perrin Harkins wrote: >>Matt Sergeant wrote: >>>OK, so what are we missing? ... >>Based on the comments I've seen here over the years, and some on Slashdot, >>the thing that seems to worry people the most is the lack

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Nathan Torkington
Leon Brocard writes: > > Perhaps a port of JMS is in order. > > Interestingly, I've been thinking along the same lines. Spread > (http://www.spread.org/) can be used for the publish/subscribe > messaging domain but queueing seems to be important too. Straying a > bit offtopic perhaps, but I wonde

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Matthew Kennedy
On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 21:27, Perrin Harkins wrote: > > It sounds like the limitation there is that you're interfacing with systems > that can't notify you when something new happens. That's not Perl's fault. > If you wrote your daemons in Java alpahabet soup, they'd still have to poll > the pop3

RE: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Matthew Kennedy
On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 20:14, Robert Koberg wrote: > > > > For comparions, a nice aspect of j2ee applications IMHO is the > > "application server" tends to be more general. ie. the application > > server is not just the web server (as it is with mod_perl). I've found > > j2ee features such as mes

Re: [OT] Perl daemons (was Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys)

2001-10-23 Thread lembark
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/23/01 10:23:18 -0500 >> >> Is anyone else using independent perl processes in a web app, or have strong >> reasons not to? I use them for quite a few things. fork/exec works nicely in perl (on unix at least), allows me to write daemons for most things. Why do you a

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 10:36 PM 10/23/2001, Leon Brocard wrote: >Perrin Harkins sent the following bits through the ether: > > > Perhaps a port of JMS is in order. > >Interestingly, I've been thinking along the same lines. Spread >(http://www.spread.org/) can be used for the publish/subscribe >messaging domain but qu

[OT] Perl daemons (was Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys)

2001-10-23 Thread claudio
> > Is anyone else using independent perl processes in a web app, or have strong > reasons not to? Our web application (Metadot) provides a number of functions that are fulfilled by a daemon written in perl. Among these are: collecting content from syndicated news channels, sending email messages

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 09:45 PM 10/23/2001, Perrin Harkins wrote: >Matt Sergeant wrote: > >>OK, so what are we missing? > > >Based on the comments I've seen here over the years, and some on Slashdot, >the thing that seems to worry people the most is the lack of an obvious >message queue API in Perl. I've seen plen

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 08:46 PM 10/23/2001, Rob Nagler wrote: > > is easier and more standardized, and well documented. But I "feel" like > > coding front-end web applications is much easier in Perl where the workflow > > bits change all the time. For this, I like using SOAP on the backend Java > > server and SOAP on

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Leon Brocard
Perrin Harkins sent the following bits through the ether: > Perhaps a port of JMS is in order. Interestingly, I've been thinking along the same lines. Spread (http://www.spread.org/) can be used for the publish/subscribe messaging domain but queueing seems to be important too. Straying a bit off

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
Matt Sergeant wrote: > OK, so what are we missing? Based on the comments I've seen here over the years, and some on Slashdot, the thing that seems to worry people the most is the lack of an obvious message queue API in Perl. I've seen plenty of implementations, but there isn't a plug-n-play

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread wsheldah
Matthew Kennedy wrote: > Secondly, I've worked on a good-sized commerce site with > mod_perl+HTML::Mason. One of the more dirty secrets is that the back-end > of the site involves several standalone perl programs running as > daemons. What's even worse is; most of them have to sit in poll/wait >

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Rob Nagler
> is easier and more standardized, and well documented. But I "feel" like > coding front-end web applications is much easier in Perl where the workflow > bits change all the time. For this, I like using SOAP on the backend Java > server and SOAP on the front-end Perl. I don't quite understand the

RE: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Matt Sergeant
> However, I would have to say that I "feel" like coding > middleware in Java > is easier and more standardized, and well documented. OK, so what are we missing? I feel like we're getting pretty close to standardisation of middleware development with environments like POE (which rocks, but is u

RE: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-23 Thread Gunther Birznieks
At 09:14 AM 10/23/2001, Robert Koberg wrote: > > For comparions, a nice aspect of j2ee applications IMHO is the > > "application server" tends to be more general. ie. the application > > server is not just the web server (as it is with mod_perl). I've found > > j2ee features such as message bean

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-22 Thread Perrin Harkins
on 10/22/01 11:13 AM, Matthew Kennedy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why was Berkeley DB chosen for caching when a RDBMS (mysql in this case) > was already being used? It's faster and less resource-intensive for this kind of thing. We just wanted a really fast persistent hash, and didn't need SQL

RE: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-22 Thread Robert Koberg
> For comparions, a nice aspect of j2ee applications IMHO is the > "application server" tends to be more general. ie. the application > server is not just the web server (as it is with mod_perl). I've found > j2ee features such as message beans, queues and such especially useful > for back-end w

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-22 Thread Matthew Kennedy
didn't look like this had been posted yet. > For those of you who haven't seen it yet... a great read on perl.com about > the Apache/mod_perl setup at eToys, co-authored by our own mod_perl > regular contributer Perrin Harkins. > >

Re: [OT] Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Jeremy Howard
> By the way, I noticed he documented still another gotcha due to a sneaky > closure. Does anyone know off-hand whether the Perl 6 folks plan to > change the closure syntax so they don't sneak into your code this way? > Closures, references, et al are being thoroughly revised, such that there wil

Re: [OT] Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
> Wasn't this "seasonal rush" at least partly caused by the so-called toywar > (www.toywar.com) between eToys.com (the online retailer) and etoy.com > (the art group)? There were a lot of DoS attacks (and some even uglier, nastier ones) in 1999 as a result of that. Most of that was dealt with th

[OT] Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 09:59:18AM -0400, Drew Taylor wrote: > What I found most interesting was the detail of the extensive caching which > was implemented to survive the seasonal rush. Wasn't this "seasonal rush" at least partly caused by the so-called toywar (www.toywar.com) between eToys

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Andrew Ho wrote: > > Hello, > > I checked the list archives and it didn't look like this had been posted yet. > For those of you who haven't seen it yet... a great read on perl.com about > the Apache/mod_perl setup at eToys, co-authored by our own mod_perl > reg

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Tom Servo
If memory serves, I think we had something like 20-30 proxy servers and I think, at the end, we had w21 through w112 for app servers, so something like 92 app servers. I don't remember how many search boxes though. Thanks for the article Perrin, I didn't know half of what you, Ollie, Chris, Ada

Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
> What I'd love to see is the avg spec and numbers of machines in each > section. So how many proxy, mod_perl and search servers were required to > give the phenomenal performance you managed to achieve. Well, this was a long time ago (I wrote the article over a year ago), and I don't remember e

RE: [Templates] Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Joe Breeden
olkit List > Subject: Re: [Templates] Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at > eToys > > > What I found most interesting was the detail of the extensive > caching which > was implemented to survive the seasonal rush. I look forward > to working on > a proje

RE: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Clinton Gormley
> > Thanks to all for the kind words. This article actually went > up a little > bit before it was supposed to, and there should be a revision > going up soon > with some grammatical fixes and a set of graphics to > illustrate parts of it. > I'll post a follow-up when that happens in case any

Re: [Templates] Re: Excellent article on Apache/mod_perl at eToys

2001-10-19 Thread Drew Taylor
What I found most interesting was the detail of the extensive caching which was implemented to survive the seasonal rush. I look forward to working on a project one day that is big enough to warrant such a system. All in all, a most excellent and informative read. Thanks again for everything y

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