Re: single most influential, cont.

1999-04-24 Thread John Kinnamon
I'm sort of surprised by Joe's reference to Willie and Waylon as examples of singers with deficient voices. Townes I'll buy, but to my ears, both Waylon and Willie have great instruments. Curiously, though, of the three only Townes can deliver a song or a phrase right to the center of me and

Re: Updates

1999-04-24 Thread Bob Soron
At 11:19 AM -0400 on 4/24/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I consider bluegrass alt-country. This isn't my objection to calling bluegrass alt-country, but I dunno how a staid, conservative genre like bluegrass becomes an alternative to a staid, conservative genre like country. It's just

RE: Updates

1999-04-24 Thread Bob Soron
At 6:33 PM +0200 on 4/23/99, Marie wrote: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the world does not need anymore tribute albums. g It's one of those ideas that are better in theory. The only really good one is *Tulare Dust*, imo. And the Tom T. Hall tribute is pretty good. The Jo

Re: Oliver lake (Fred Hopkins. WSQ, David Murray, etc)

1999-04-24 Thread Cactus
Saw David Murray's Quartet with the late Fred Hopkins on bass at Artpark. I've been lucky to see David Murray in many incarnations, very often with Fred Hopkins. I was sad to see how he passed away - he seemed very young (I don't know his age, but he PLAYED young). He always seemed to have

Re: single most influential, cont.

1999-04-24 Thread Joe Gracey
John Kinnamon wrote: I'm sort of surprised by Joe's reference to Willie and Waylon as examples of singers with deficient voices. Townes I'll buy, but to my ears, both Waylon and Willie have great instruments. Willie doesn't have a "big" voice, although it can be loud if he wants to. he's a

Gillian Welch David Rawlings, Tucson, AZ, 18 Apr 99

1999-04-24 Thread Hiroshi Ogura
I began scribbling the following review soon after the show, forgot about it for a week, and came back and finished it today. No, I refuse to say anything about the most influential artist or the negative effect of bad musicianship on the alt-country movement. :-) In any case, this review is

son volt cdr's

1999-04-24 Thread Kevin Reed
posting some more sv cdrs for anyone who wants to trade, or do a blanks and postage trade (I dont mind), this time it's 6/22/96, and 10/8/98... the 96 show is cabaret metro in Chi Town, and includes tons of high quality filler from FM broadcasts, and packs two discs. The 10/8/98 is from First

Re: Oliver lake (Fred Hopkins. WSQ, David Murray, etc)

1999-04-24 Thread Tom Smith
Cactus wrote: If Fo Deuk Revue comes to your town in any form, check it out. When I saw him half a year ago he had Senegal rappers, traditional Senegal pop music, Amira Buraka reading beat poetry, and, of course, the great sounds of David Murray himself. Kick ass stuff. Kick ass stuff

Gwil Owen address?

1999-04-24 Thread Kevin Fredette
Awhile back, someone posted this address: Rambler Records, P.O. Box 90685, Nashville, TN 37209 for tapes by Gwil Owen (writer of songs recorded by Toni Price, Joy Lynn White et al.). Being a fan of those songs, I mailed off a note asking for a list of what he had for sale. It was returned to

Lee Ann Womack on the Opry

1999-04-24 Thread Jon Weisberger
Caught most of the rerun of tonight's televised portion, and though Ray Price was a hard act to follow - dang, he sounded good, and he also sounded great on the radio-only second show - Lee Ann was up to the job after a slightly shaky start with her Terry Smith-endorsed current hit; it looked to

No twang here- I need a good sous chef

1999-04-24 Thread Nicholas Petti
What the hell- I'll try here. Anyone know of a good sous chef or line cook looking for more opportunity who wants to live in culinary Mecca (i.e. the wilds of Northern California). I can't pay a whole lot but my 65 seat bistro is busy, a local favorite and a damn fun place to work. I'm also a

Re: Lee Ann Womack on the Opry

1999-04-24 Thread Mike Hays
did a good slow, hard-country number that's not on either of her albums, most likely titled "A Way To Survive"; anyone know where it comes from? Most recent version I know of is Gene Watson but I think Hank Thompson had a go at it and my band does it every weekend. Mike Hays

Re: Captain Beefheart (re:Welfare Music)

1999-04-23 Thread vgs399
Marie on Beefheart... There is a difference between noise and music, right? CK: Actually, according to Zappa when recording those LPs, the point was to answer that question, "No." Well, I think they answered that question with a *yes*. There is a difference between noise and music. Beefheart

News flash: Swarb's not dead.

1999-04-23 Thread Barry Mazor
(But he still looks just like Joan Plowright...) April 21, 1999 Folk rocker's obituary makes one BIG MISTAKE LONDON (CNN) -- Dave Swarbrick, of the seminal folk-rock group Fairport Convention, was alive and chuckling, friends said Wednesday, after seeing a complimentary obituary

Hillbilly boogiemen GO SEE THEM BEFORE THEY LEAVE!

1999-04-23 Thread Fred Boenig
Fri, Apr 23 Rocky's 1405-239-2266 Oklahoma City OK Sat, Apr 24 The Fur Shop 1918-582-2571 Tulsa OK Sun, Apr 25 Egos, Austin TX Mon, Apr 26 Ginny's little Longhorn, Austin TX Tue, Apr 27 Ale House 1713-521-2333 Houston TX Wed, Apr 28 Steve Dean's show San Marcos TX Thu, Apr 29 Continental

Re: Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-23 Thread Terry A. Smith
Jon: As far as the lowest common denominator argument goes, I'm not sure what to make of it. The Beatles have sold about 20% more albums; does that mean they made music for a 20% lower common denominator? (I suspect there are a few folks who will answer "yes".) Out of the top 25 on that

Chicago Calendar Errata

1999-04-23 Thread LindaRay64
one of those frequent inexplicable gaps twixt brain and fingers: 5/14-15: 5/14-15: John Wesley Harding and Ellis Paul at SCHUBAS TAVERN! Two shows each night. Thought you'd want to know so you could try out the link. A HREF="http://www.schubas.com/schome.html"Schubas Tavern/A

Re: Oliver Lake

1999-04-23 Thread Greg Harness
Carl Abraham Zimring wrote: Could be, though he's spent plenty of time in Chicago, played with plenty of Chicago-based musicians, and put one one of the finest displays of saxophone playing I've ever seen in a Chicago club. I've always been a fan of his playing, and even moreso of his

Re: NW P2 party

1999-04-23 Thread Jamie DePolo
Gee Don, lots of us Midwest pussy people (despite the androgynous name and penchant for watching hockey in my underwear, I'm no boy) are going to be in Columbus, Ohio that weekend in May for the Sovines CD release party extravaganza. We'll drink a toast to you latte swillers if you promise to

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Matt Benz
Well, I'll stand in front of Rob Miller's fantastic jukebox there in his living room, in my best pair of overalls, with a haybale, and a feather boa drinking RC Cola, munching on a moon pie, and tell him Jr's right, and what the hell are you doing a "Knitter's" tribute album for anyway? What's

Re: Updates and SXSW Stuff

1999-04-23 Thread William T. Cocke
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:00:01 -0500 Christopher M Knaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's on the list of "Cities with good alt.country music scene's that get a large amount of press." Um, Austin, erm, Chicago, maybe Nashville, maybe St. Louis - that's about it isnt it? Chapel Hill usedta be

RE: Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger
But I think that if you state it this way -- "Just because something sells like hotcakes doesn't mean it's any good" -- then you're on more solid ground. That Terry Smith, he's a sharp guy. Jon Weisberger, Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger

D 'n' C

1999-04-23 Thread William T. Cocke
I just saw on Pollstar that Drivin' 'n' Cryin' is playing here somewhere tonight. I seem to remember a few advocates on the list. Are they worth seeing now? They may be playing a fraternity somewhere cause the listing said Univ. of Va. They'd have to be damn worth it if that's the case.

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Marie Arsenault
MATT!:Well, I'll stand in front of Rob Miller's fantastic jukebox there in his living room, in my best pair of overalls, with a haybale, and a featherboa drinking RC Cola, munching on a moon pie, and tell him Jr's right, Matt wins Friday's The Dave Purcell Rant of the Day Award. and

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Matt Benz
-Original Message- From: Marie Arsenault [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 9:42 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: Updates Matt wins Friday's "The Dave Purcell Rant of the Day" Award.   [Matt Benz] Well, it's early, I'm tired, cranky,

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread RoCogs
In a message dated 99-04-22 17:35:44 EDT, you write: Yates opines: Anyway, it's too bad the person who wrote that essay spent so much time with the cartoon crowd down there -- he/she must've missed James Hand, Justin Trevino, Don Walser, Paul Burch, Dale Watson and all the other hardcore

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread RoCogs
In a message dated 99-04-22 17:47:51 EDT, Jon writes: Well, it was part of the premise - that lousy performances/performers are especially destructive to the "roots music movement." Lousy music is a drag, but since when has sucky music stopped talented musicians from making great music?

Garth internationally

1999-04-23 Thread Loud Promotions
Sad to say, it's reckoned that one out of every four people in Ireland have seen a Garth show. I know it's a small country but... Unbelievable but true. Kirsty -Original Message- From: Jon Weisberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 23 April 1999 03:55

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger
well, what the hell is alt country then? The most reasonable definition I've been able to come up with is anything with country roots that Hot New Country stations won't get near, touch, play, mention, support, blah, blah, blah, which would include Walsner, Paul Burch, Dale Wartson, etc.

More Artists

1999-04-23 Thread john friedman
When I refused to do an acoustic version of the songs I never recorded, I thought that qualified *me* as artist of the decade. g Anyway, back to the influential artists, a few bands still merit discussion: Pink Floyd - did for stereo what, well, help me out here Bee Gees - wrote more songs

new Go Betweens best of

1999-04-23 Thread Jeff Weiss
All you country folk turn your heads for a minute... 14 track best of (15 counting the long no longer interesting concept of hidden track) plus the initial US pressing has a bonus live CD. track listing: Was There Anything I Could Do?/Head Full Of Steam/That Way /Part Company/Cattle And

RE: Artist of the Decade?

1999-04-23 Thread Jezzy Larue
Do you know any black people who listen to the Beasties? Do other rap acts give them shout-outs on record? They are making white music for white people. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't hip-hop. As a matter of fact, in the latest edition of Rolling Stone, a rap artist by the name of

Cheap Trick (was Re: Chicago Calendar)

1999-04-23 Thread TW Mohr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *6/15: RELS: Cheap Trick (live) I read somewhere (ICE, maybe) that this will be available exclusively through Amazon.com for like two months before its general release. Something about Amazon wanting to flex its muscles by getting an album on the charts on the basis

v-roys / bare jr.

1999-04-23 Thread Chad Cosper
I guess it's about time for the monthly reminder that the V-Roys are still the best live band in America. I saw the open (?!?!) up for Bare Jr. last night in Chapel Hill and they put on one of the best shows of theirs I have seen. They opened the set with the new-ish "Motion Pictures" and went

Dwight Best of

1999-04-23 Thread Jerald Corder
I read in the Dallas paper yesterday that Dwight's version of "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (from that Gap commercial) will appear on his new best of collection. Jerald

Hi everybody!

1999-04-23 Thread Mårten Sandén
I'm Marten, new to the list. I have to say this is probably the most vital list I've ever been on! I had almost 200 messages this morning! My first instinct was to UNSUBSCRIBE real quick, but a second look told me there were a lot of interesting topics/artists being discussed. Soo... I guess I'll

Swingin' Doors, 4/22/99

1999-04-23 Thread Don Yates
Last night's show was a hoot. The Souvenirs dropped by to give a sneak preview of a coupla songs from their upcoming debut album -- it ain't comin' out until the Fall, but it's gonna be a good 'un. After the show, we headed to the Showbox for BR5-49, who blew poor Cesar Rosas off the stage.

BR5-49

1999-04-23 Thread Jerry Curry
we headed to the Showbox for BR5-49, who blew poor Cesar Rosas off the Speaking of the BR folks. They are appearing this evening in lovely downtown Podunk, er Independence, Oregon tonight at Lenora's Ghost. Get there early as there are only 25 or so, tickets remaining. JC

Clip: Metallica and the SF Symphony (review for Jon)

1999-04-23 Thread Brad Bechtel
Symphony Bends Under Weight of Metallica Orchestra plays second fiddle to rock band Neva Chonin, Chronicle Staff Critic Friday, April 23, 1999 ©1999 San Francisco Chronicle URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/04/23/DD17279.DTLtype=music Two

Re: BR5-49

1999-04-23 Thread Don Yates
Oops, almost forgot to mention -- Deborah was talkin' to one of the BR5-49 boys last night after the show, and there was another girl standin' there who said she was from Lawrence, Kansas, so Deborah asks her if she knows Junior. The girl replied, "You mean *Phil Barnard*?!" We'll just leave

Re: BR5-49

1999-04-23 Thread BARNARD
That was a former student, Don. I'm surprised she didn't say "Professor Barnard," which is even more irritating g. --jr.

Re: Captain Beefheart (re:Welfare Music)

1999-04-23 Thread Svb442
Marie on Beefheart... There is a difference between noise and music, right? one man's noise...

Re: Captain Beefheart

1999-04-23 Thread Svb442
my fave stuff ol' don's is the legendary am sessions ep, which features some the grittiest blues rock of the mid-60's, and the spotlight kid/clear spot double cd, which features some of the most monstrous guitar work courtesy of mr. zoot horn rollo(who's book on his beefheart years is one of

Re: Cheap Trick (was Re: Chicago Calendar)

1999-04-23 Thread Svb442
In a message dated 4/23/99 10:02:11 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *6/15: RELS: Cheap Trick (live) I read somewhere (ICE, maybe) that this will be available exclusively through Amazon.com for like two months before its general release. Something about Amazon wanting to flex its

The Gourds and who?

1999-04-23 Thread Terry A. Smith
The other day I was checking out the Austin Chronicle's web-site, and they mentioned that the Gourds were making a record, backing up somebody relatively well-known in alt.country/country circles. And the identity of that person has completely slipped my mind; all I can recall is that it seemed

RE: The Gourds and who?

1999-04-23 Thread Matt Benz
Doug Sahm, I think -Original Message- From: Terry A. Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 12:54 PM To: passenger side Subject: The Gourds and who? The other day I was checking out the Austin Chronicle's web-site, and they mentioned that the

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Joe Gracey
M Rubin wrote: Yates opines: Anyway, it's too bad the person who wrote that essay spent so much time with the cartoon crowd down there -- he/she must've missed James Hand, Justin Trevino, Don Walser, Paul Burch, Dale Watson and all the other hardcore traditionalists types that played this

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Greg Harness
Elena (?) wrote: Lousy music is a drag, but since when has sucky music stopped talented musicians from making great music? And Jon W replied: It hasn't, but it can make it harder for them to get heard, both because of the turn-off factor already mentioned - "Yeesh, those guys couldn't

Re: The Gourds and who?

1999-04-23 Thread Terry A. Smith
Doug Sahm, I think By cracky, that's it. Sounds like a very interesting pairing; I wonder what the material's going to be. -- Terry

Re: Northwest P2 party!

1999-04-23 Thread Dave Purcell
Don Yates wrote: Deborah and I are gonna be havin' a li'l party for P2ers on Saturday May 15th, beginning sometime in the early evening. How sweet of the Yates Gang to honor my 33rd birthday in style. Are you gonna fly me out? Dave *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots

Re: Updates and SXSW Stuff

1999-04-23 Thread Dave Purcell
CK sez: Dave, who hates all things Chicago... Not true. Just very glad to be back home, that's all. And as far as your specific examples go, you eliminated one from the genre - even tho they are the 'corner stone band' on an insurgent country label, and you dismiss another band (who loads

Re: Dwight Best of

1999-04-23 Thread Ndubb
In a message dated 4/23/99 10:19:37 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I read in the Dallas paper yesterday that Dwight's version of "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (from that Gap commercial) will appear on his new best of collection. Funny isn't it, that a song used exclusively for a TV

Re: BR5-49

1999-04-23 Thread William F. Silvers
Professor "not Longhair" Barnard wrote: That was a former student, Don. I'm surprised she didn't say "Professor Barnard," which is even more irritating g. File this tidbit away kids...g b.s.

Re: Most albums sold, per RIAA

1999-04-23 Thread Ndubb
In a message dated 4/23/99 7:05:34 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Just because something sells like hotcakes doesn't mean it's any good" I'll go one step further and say that because something sells like hotcakes there's a damn good chance it means it sucks big time. Guilty until

Re: Dwight Best of

1999-04-23 Thread William F. Silvers
Neal observed: I read in the Dallas paper yesterday that Dwight's version of "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (from that Gap commercial) will appear on his new best of collection. Funny isn't it, that a song used exclusively for a TV commericial (thus far) falls under the category of

Re: Northwest P2 party!

1999-04-23 Thread Don Yates
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Dave Purcell wrote: How sweet of the Yates Gang to honor my 33rd birthday in style. Are you gonna fly me out? We'll be sure to play some Moonshine Willy in your honor.g And if you're really lucky, maybe by the end of the night some unfortunate NW P2er will be assuming

Re: BR5-49

1999-04-23 Thread Jerry Curry
WhyI've been calling him "Most Exalted" Herr Doktor for years nowg. NP: Emmylou Harris - Cowgirl's Prayer JC That was a former student, Don. I'm surprised she didn't say "Professor Barnard," which is even more irritating g. File this tidbit away kids...g b.s. Jerry

Re: Alejandro Beaver in Cinci

1999-04-23 Thread Jennifer Sperandeo
-- From: "Dave Purcell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Updates and SXSW Stuff Date: Fri, Apr 23, 1999, 12:16 PM who would never call Alejandro overrated in a million years...I'm seeing him four blocks from my house on Tuesday, in fact... if

PLAYLIST: Progressive Torch and Twang, 20 April 1999

1999-04-23 Thread Douglas Neal
- Playlist for Progressive Torch and Twang Tuesdays, 8 p.m. to midnight WDBM, 88.9 FM, G-4 Holden Hall, East Lansing, MI 48824 Your hosts: Doug Neal and Jamie DePolo Questions, comments? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL

PLAYLIST: Progressive Torch and Twang, 13 April 1999

1999-04-23 Thread Douglas Neal
- Playlist for Progressive Torch and Twang Tuesdays, 8 p.m. to midnight WDBM, 88.9 FM, G-4 Holden Hall, East Lansing, MI 48824 Your hosts: Doug Neal and Jamie DePolo Questions, comments? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Todd Larson
Lousy music is a drag, but since when has sucky music stopped talented musicians from making great music? It hasn't, but it can make it harder for them to get heard, both because of the turn-off factor already mentioned - "Yeesh, those guys couldn't carry a tune in a paper bag. If that's

Re: Northwest P2 party!

1999-04-23 Thread Jerry Curry
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Don Yates wrote: We'll be sure to play some Moonshine Willy in your honor.g And if you're really lucky, maybe by the end of the night some unfortunate NW P2er will be assuming the Purcell position in front of our toilet bowl.--don Don.you're a genious, my new band

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Dave Purcell
#1 Allen Iverson fan Todd Larson wrote: You know, this sort of musical Gresham's Law -- that bad music represents a threat to the good -- has been discussed here before...snipThis kind of thinking smacks of an elitism that I can't tolerate -- as if the "sucky" bands are doing something

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger
Greg says: Elena (?) wrote: Lousy music is a drag, but since when has sucky music stopped talented musicians from making great music? And Jon W replied: It hasn't, but it can make it harder for them to get heard, both because of the turn-off factor already mentioned - "Yeesh, those

Re: Alejandro Beaver in Cinci

1999-04-23 Thread John Kinnamon
who would never call Alejandro overrated in a million years...I'm seeing him four blocks from my house on Tuesday, in fact... if he gets to the Southgate House early he will also be seeing Beaver Nelson, opening for Alejandro. He's playing in Oxford OH at the Buzz Coffeehouse on 4/30,

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jennifer Sperandeo
Um...no it wouldn't. It would turn them off to that band, and possibly hanging out with you. Its a matter of "My Mix Tape/Top-Ten-List/Music Recomendations Define Me". They're your friends, and chances are you're not gonna drag them out to see Moonshine Willy so the question is moot.

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Terry A. Smith
You know, this sort of musical Gresham's Law -- that bad music represents a threat to the good -- has been discussed here before (we talked about it in relationship to Split Lip Rayfield, if I recall), and I still just don't buy it. "Boy if weren't for those damn Moonshine Cousinfuckers

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Todd Larson
Wildcat apologist Dave wrote: But given most people's busy schedules and abundant entertainment choices, there's a good chance a lousy band (and it's not solely a matter of chops or a lack thereof) *would* turn them off to roots music for good. How many of us have gone back to a restaurant we

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread cwilson
Geez, why is this so difficult to get across? As Dave wrote: But given most people's busy schedules and abundant entertainment choices, there's a good chance a lousy band (and it's not solely a matter of chops or a lack thereof) *would* turn them off to roots music for good. How many

Re: single most influential, cont.

1999-04-23 Thread cwilson
As a footnote to our discussion, see the new issue of the Atlantic, including an article arguing that Dylan changed pop music more than any other single figure, "including Sinatra, Elvis or the Beatles." (No mention of Der Bingle.) Read and discuss (I haven't,

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread RoCogs
In a message dated 99-04-23 14:16:15 EDT, you write: The thread started out from Mr. Anonymous's point that sucky music is hurting "the roots music movement," which would probably g include some of the stuff Greg's listed. Think for a minute about how different kinds of music get exposure.

Re: NW P2 party vs. Sovine Extravaganza 99!

1999-04-23 Thread Debnumbers
I'm afraid I will be unable to attend both though I'll be closer to Don and Deborah's than Ohio. I'll be working in California Bay Area the 14th through the 22nd. We've got a rental car but I doubt my work colleague would fancy a quick trip up to Seattle. Hopefully, we'll find something to

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Todd Larson
The thread started out from Mr. Anonymous's point that sucky music is hurting "the roots music movement," which would probably g include some of the stuff Greg's listed. Think for a minute about how different kinds of music get exposure. Rock, pop, country - these are mass genres, and anyone

Re: D 'n' C

1999-04-23 Thread Debnumbers
I prefer Kevn Kinney solo to D 'n' C -- in fact I haven't seen the band in a while. But Kevn's got some great solo songs -- some that he does with the band. My current favorite is "Highway 316 revisited." 316 is the hwy. between Atlanta and Athens and Kevn' did a great Dylan parody for a

Re:Tom Petty's roots are showing/Gainesville

1999-04-23 Thread J.C. Moretta
Another gap in my knowledge: I was amazed to read, in the liner notes, that Duane Gregg Allman, Bernie Leadon, and Don Felder all came out of the Gainesville music scene along with Petty co. Molly Hatchet also hails from FLA. BTW, they toured several years ago w/Danny Jo Brown at the

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger
Todd says: But given most people's busy schedules and abundant entertainment choices, there's a good chance a lousy band (and it's not solely a matter of chops or a lack thereof) *would* turn them off to roots music for good. How many of us have gone back to a restaurant we hated the

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Todd Larson
Of course not. Nobody's saying a lousy band will make people abandon *music*. But if someone goes to, say, their first Malaysian restaurant (to choose something fringey), and the food is overcooked and greasy and makes them practically retch, the next time someone suggests a

Re: single most influential, cont.

1999-04-23 Thread Tom Ekeberg
Carl W.: As a footnote to our discussion, see the new issue of the Atlantic, including an article arguing that Dylan changed pop music more than any other single figure, "including Sinatra, Elvis or the Beatles." Of course. He single handedly made it all right not to know how

Re: Updates Beaver

1999-04-23 Thread Dave Purcell
Jenni wrote: Um...no it wouldn't. It would turn them off to that band, and possibly hanging out with you. Its a matter of "My Mix Tape/Top-Ten-List/Music Recomendations Define Me". They're your friends, and chances are you're not gonna drag them out to see Moonshine Willy so the question

Clip: Chesnutt Wilco from the Boston Globe

1999-04-23 Thread Bob Soron
Dunno if any of my old homies have already posted this, since I'm a little behind. Sorry if you've already seen it... ROCK NOTES Chesnutt and Wilco: works in progress By Jim Sullivan, Globe Staff, 04/23/99 About 10 years ago, Vic Chesnutt - singer-songwriter-guitarist - spent an evening he

Re: single most influential, cont.

1999-04-23 Thread David Cantwell
At 09:36 PM 4/23/99 +0200, Tom wrote: Of course. He single handedly made it all right not to know how to sing, not to know how to play and still be a big star. I have no comment. Just wanted to say how great it was to see a Tom Ekeberg post! --david cantwell

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger
Todd says: I guess what it comes down to is the degree to which a given band is known and marketed as representative of a certain genre, and the degree to which people associate their particular experience of the band with the entire genre. Well, I'd say that a show billed as an alt.country

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread William F. Silvers
Todd Larson wrote: But the larger point for me, to say it one more time, is the notion of blame. The conversations here (and Mr. Anonymous' assertion that sucky bands are a threat to the roots music movement) is like a bunch of restaurant critics suggesting that the sucky Malaysian

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Tom Ekeberg
But the larger point for me, to say it one more time, is the notion of blame. The conversations here (and Mr. Anonymous' assertion that sucky bands are a threat to the roots music movement) is like a bunch of restaurant critics suggesting that the sucky Malaysian restaurant should shut down

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jon Weisberger
Ummm, who are these bands that are getting on the radio and turning newbies off of "altcountry"? I could name some pretty rotten Southern Ohio bluegrass bands who get airplay on Southern Ohio bluegrass radio and get festival bookings, but I doubt the names would mean much to anyone not from

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Erin Snyder
Well, I have to come out of the woodwork to side firmly with Todd on this one. While I don't want to beat this food analogy to death, I think it's a good 'un, I just disagree with most of the predictions. I really think that most people are smart enough to recognize poor quality without

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Greg Harness
Jon Weisberger wrote: Well, I'd say that a show billed as an alt.country showcase is one that's at least to some degree marketing the acts who appear on it as representative of the genre, and I'd say it's reasonable for people, especially those unfamiliar to the genre, to think that a show

pumpskully

1999-04-23 Thread Brown Eyed Girl
--- John Flippo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:09:14 -0700 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "John Flippo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "passenger side" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Southern Rock Lives Has Pumpskully released a cd? Flippo according to my source,

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Jerry Curry
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, William F. Silvers wrote: Todd Larson wrote: TW -- have any of you popsters out there seen Jason Faulkner? Thinking about checking it out tonight, and hoping it won't turn me off from pop altogether Well, I've read very good things about his new record, but I

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Dave Purcell
Erin Snyder wrote: I really think that most people are smart enough to recognize poor quality without assuming it's a characteristic of the genre (punk notwithstanding -heh). Well, I hope you're right. With true music fans, maybe, but I don't think the general populace is so forgiving (or

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Erin Snyder
And while I'm at it, I hate that hippie psuedo-bluegrass pap that Jerry Garcia inadvertently spawned. However, when my staight-up bluegrass band opened for the god-awful Gordon Stone ("banjo" player famed for collaborating with Ph*sh), I felt no moral qualms whatsoever about taking hundreds of

All The Way Down

1999-04-23 Thread john friedman
. They are making white music for white people. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't hip-hop. Dude. Dude. Dde. Put on "Liscence To Ill." There are some major f*cking beats and grooves on that record, which a black man should be so lucky to put together. Just because your black

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Terry A. Smith
Another angle on this deal -- and I'll be short because all this talk about Malaysian food is making me hungry -- is the boy who cried wolf phenomenon. With a lot of these crappy alt.country bands -- fill in the blanks -- there's an inverse proportion between all the self-generated hype and the

RE: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread Todd Larson
Hopefully my last post on this one This is where you lose me, Todd, because I haven't suggested, nor do I think Mr. Anonymous suggested, that some external authority ought to shut anyone down. Yes, perhaps "shut down" is too strongly worded, and I certainly don't think anyone is suggesting

Re: Clip: Chesnutt Wilco from the Boston Globe

1999-04-23 Thread Debnumbers
Bob, thanks for posting that. Deb

Re: All The Way Down

1999-04-23 Thread JP Riedie
. They are making white music for white people. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't hip-hop. Dude. Dude. Dde. Put on "Liscence To Ill." There are some major f*cking beats and grooves on that record, which a black man should be so lucky to put together. Just because your black does

re: v-roys/bare jr.

1999-04-23 Thread Steve Gardner
Chad said that he was reminded that the V-Roys were the best live band in America. I agree. He also said: Bare Jr. on the other hand made me feel old...even though I am not fairly young compared to the demographics of this list. They were pretty good, but they were SOOO LOUD and repetitive.

Re: Updates

1999-04-23 Thread EC7739
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:18:52 PDT Greg Harness said: Jon Weisberger wrote: Well, I'd say that a show billed as an alt.country showcase is one that's at least to some degree marketing the acts who appear on it as representative of the genre, and I'd say it's reasonable for people, especially

RE: Mandy B

1999-04-23 Thread Don Yates
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Don Yates wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jon Weisberger wrote: The definite oldies are "I've Got A Right To Cry" (Hank Jr.), "Give Myself A Party" (Don Gibson), "Trademark" (Carl Smith), "Falling, Falling, Falling" (Ray Price). I assume that the Newbury and Bryants

Speaking of Noise

1999-04-23 Thread tlombard
I've finally gotten around to listening to the Rykodisc reissue of the first Meat Puppets album - with 18 (!) bonus tracks - and I'm really digging it but I forgot how brutal it is at times. For those on the list who find Freakwater unlistenable - I'd be curious how long you'd listen to this

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