Re: GRUB failure

On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 12:33:26PM -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Otto Haliburton wrote: > > >I have a dual boot system with HDA containing XP PRO and RH9 on HDB GRUB > >is the boot loader and it is written to the MBR or HDA along with the XP > >boot loader. I just removed HDB and guess what

Re:: GRUB failure

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: This was posted in a precious email. Yes. *previous* -- H| I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. + Ashley M. Kirchner . 303.442.6410 x130 IT D

Re: GRUB failure

Jack Bowling wrote: Hi, Ashley. Sorry to butt my head in so late. When you yanked the 2nd drive, did you go into the BIOS and tell it that it no longer exists? This was posted in a precious email. Yes. -- H| I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +--

Re: GRUB failure

Last time around. It appears that stage2 never gets called nor stage1_5 (I don't even see how it gets setup to call, but if it were called it definitely prints a message GRUB is loading). Also it appears that there is no error in stage1. So I don't believe that Ashley's problem is with GRUB at a

Re: GRUB failure

Michael Schwendt wrote: - is BIOS set to LBA? Last I checked, it was. - does grub-install with --force-lba work? No errors. - does LILO work? Ain't trying that. The server is up and running as it should be, and I can't take it down in the name of science right now. -- W | I have

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:16:46 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > I dont have the RH 7.2 version of > the grub source to look at. Might have 7.1 levels. The MBR > is probably the same. > If you have source - What does it do after printing out > "GRUB", ever

RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure > > > They both are there trust me. In RH8/9 > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin > >

RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

They both are there trust me. In RH8/9 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure >

RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

ROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:43:38 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > >

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> > > > Now Mike, This is not Fair! You cant keep changing the > > nomenclature > > like this, It just confuses my poor little brain... > > I thut I thaw a put-tee tat.. > > GRUB in MBR does not care at all whether the _next_ stage is the > final stage as found in file /boot/grub/sta

Re: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:43:38 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > I thought Kudzu was replaced by Anaconda I dont recall > seeing it on my RH 8/9 systems > but I may have been asleep at the console at the time... Kudzu and Anaconda are two separate thi

Re: GRUB failure

Kenneth Goodwin wrote: Oh, BTW I skipped from 7.1 to 8.0 and rapidly from there to 9.0 I went 5.2 -> 6.2 -> 7.3 - and currently I have only one machine that has 8 on it. None has 9... -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +--

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> > >I thought Kudzu was replaced by Anaconda I dont recall > >seeing it on my RH 8/9 systems > >but I may have been asleep at the console at the time... > > > > > You skipped a post somewhere...the machine has 7.3 on it. > > actually i missed all the early ones and said so. I only j

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:40:53 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > > In stage1 source code, the next stage is called stage2. ;) > > > Now Mike, This is not Fair! You cant keep changing the > nomenclature > like this, It just confuses my poor little brain.

Re: GRUB failure

Kenneth Goodwin wrote: I thought Kudzu was replaced by Anaconda I dont recall seeing it on my RH 8/9 systems but I may have been asleep at the console at the time... You skipped a post somewhere...the machine has 7.3 on it. -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere

RE: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

t 04, 2003 3:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure > > > Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > > >yOU DONT GET A BOOT time MESSAGE ABOUTING CHECKING FOR new > >hardware? > > > > > That's kudzu's job, and it&#

RE: GRUB failure

> > On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:06:19 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > > > >If it doesn't print > > >an error message, it has loaded and jumped into stage2 either with > > >LBA or CHS geometry. > > > > > > > > I'm curious, where does stage1_5 come into play, if > what you're > > suggestin

Re: [RH List] RE: GRUB failure

Kenneth Goodwin wrote: yOU DONT GET A BOOT time MESSAGE ABOUTING CHECKING FOR new hardware? That's kudzu's job, and it's been long removed. (So the answer to your question is no, I don't.) -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere. +

RE: GRUB failure

ginal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ashley M. Kirchner > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > > Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > > >what I am saying is that the MBR may be craf

RE: GRUB failure

> Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > > This is different from the setup Ashley has but the results are the > same. I don't exactly know what that means but it certainly means > something. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: GRUB failure

> Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > > >1 - this system had two IDE drives in it at Linux > >installation time. > >A (the MASTER) and B (The Slave), There is no SCSI, NO > >RAID, no LVM. just a simple plain vanilla LINUX setup. > > > > > > Nope. The machine had ONE drive upon installation.

RE: GRUB failure

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SH

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> > > what I am saying is that the MBR may be crafted or rebuild > > by anaconda for the two drive setup disk info. > > It's grub-install/grub that creates stage1 based on the grub.conf > created by anaconda. > > > "Grub-install". which I have not seen admittedly, may be based > > on a MAKE e

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:03:08 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > Phase 1.5 - Grub OS Loader Part one (OS filesystem > selector) Knows? os fs structures That one would give considerably more status/error output, in particular: "GRUB loading, please

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:06:19 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > >If it doesn't print > >an error message, it has loaded and jumped into stage2 either with > >LBA or CHS geometry. > > > > > I'm curious, where does stage1_5 come into play, if what

Re: GRUB failure

Michael Schwendt wrote: If it doesn't print an error message, it has loaded and jumped into stage2 either with LBA or CHS geometry. I'm curious, where does stage1_5 come into play, if what you're suggesting is that it jumps from stage1 to stage2? -- W | I haven't lost my mind; it's backed

RE: GRUB failure

ehalf Of Otto Haliburton > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:00 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > > This is why you need to read the manual. GRUB does know the file > structures for the OS it boots the kernel for otherwise it > chain loads >

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 12:33:26 -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > Otto Haliburton wrote: > > >I have a dual boot system with HDA containing XP PRO and RH9 on HDB GRUB > >is the boot loader and it is written to the MBR or HDA along with the XP > >boot l

Re: GRUB failure

Otto Haliburton wrote: You've never said (that I can remember ) what version of RH you are running. 7.3 Also I want to note that it is not a foregone conclusion that it calls stage1_5. So we don't know how far it gets into the process, it seems it would print an error message if it discovered

RE: GRUB failure

> > > > Welcome to my world. At that point in the game, I doubt it even > knows about hdb, to even go find the config file. It read the MBR, > and > ... fell off the planet. > > -- You've never said (that I can remember ) what version of RH you are running. If it is an old version then you

Re: GRUB failure

Otto Haliburton wrote: I have a dual boot system with HDA containing XP PRO and RH9 on HDB GRUB is the boot loader and it is written to the MBR or HDA along with the XP boot loader. I just removed HDB and guess what I got a black screen with GRUB in the left hand corner. Welcome to my world

Re: GRUB failure

Kenneth Goodwin wrote: what I am saying is that the MBR may be crafted or rebuild by anaconda for the two drive setup disk info. Anaconda may not be able to go backwards here, may not be able to undo in a return to single drive configuration - most people add hardware, not remove it, it may have n

RE: GRUB failure

Monday, August 04, 2003 1:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > I have a dual boot system with HDA containing XP PRO and RH9 on HDB > GRUB > is the boot loader and it is written to the MBR or HDA along with the > XP > boot loader. I just removed HDB a

RE: GRUB failure

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:39:54 -0400, K

Re: GRUB failure

Kenneth Goodwin wrote: 1 - this system had two IDE drives in it at Linux installation time. A (the MASTER) and B (The Slave), There is no SCSI, NO RAID, no LVM. just a simple plain vanilla LINUX setup. Nope. The machine had ONE drive upon installation. hdb wasn't added till months later

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:39:54 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > what I am saying is that the MBR may be crafted or rebuild > by anaconda for the two drive setup disk info. It's grub-install/grub that creates stage1 based on the grub.conf created by anaco

RE: GRUB failure

> > I think this goes too far, and I don't see what it would change. > IIRC, it has been mentioned that grub-install works flawlessly when > slave drive is available and even when slave drive is removed and > system is booted with bootdisk. However, the newly written GRUB then > fails in MBR a

RE: GRUB failure

t- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:51 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > > > > > > BIOS loads and starts the code from master boot record, > but code in > > > MBR fails to load stage

RE: GRUB failure

> > > > BIOS loads and starts the code from master boot record, but code in > > MBR fails to load stage1.5 which is located at a fixed position on > > hda. At that point, GRUB does not even know about > "directories" yet, > > since it is this later stage that would give native access to ext2

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:26:05 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > ASHLEY - Your grub issue may be that > > grub-install may only install an already compiled and loaded > version of the > MBR phase one piece. YOU MAy have to do a GRUB Make to > rebuild th

RE: GRUB failure

> > >To those of you, who have the theory that GRUB is loading stage1 > > and can't load stage2 answer the question, "how it can > find stage1 and > > then can't find stage2?", when both are in the same GRUB > directory. It > > can not find the GRUB directory period. > > BIOS loads and

RE: GRUB failure

rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:18 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > Otto -I think you are missing the big picture here and > Ashley can confirm it or > disprove me

RE: GRUB failure

> - set hda's jumper back to master otherwise BIOS > complains and won't > boot > - shoved floppy in, booted up just fine > - ran grub-install /dev/hda, no errors > - removed floppy, reboot > - BIOS finds hda, knows there's no hdb, goes on to boot > - black screen, w

RE: GRUB failure

d crash. You would have to play with his system and GRUB to figure exactly what has changed. One can only guess otherwise. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Otto Haliburton > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:13 AM > To:

RE: GRUB failure

st the MBR > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ashley M. Kirchner > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 4:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > > brian davison wrote: > > >Ashley... try not chan

RE: GRUB failure

rton > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > > > > Otto, you may be missing this point.. > > Grub isn't loading anything. > > Bios is loading the MBR from the drive. > > this mbr.. part

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> Otto, you may be missing this point.. > Grub isn't loading anything. > Bios is loading the MBR from the drive. > this mbr.. part of grub is being called stage 1. > Yes, this is correct if you read the latter parts of the manual that I published then you know that stage1 is 512 bytes long

Re: GRUB failure

brian davison wrote: with the additional info from Mr. Kirchner, that the board has scsi interface on board, I wonder if it also has a self modifying portion in its cmos... (I've seen a couple of these) where it keeps track of the scsi devices and bootability. Good theory, except I have th

RE: GRUB failure

>You haven't gotten the point of the question. GRUB is in the MBR from >the install. It has a location to get to the GRUB directory to load >stage1 (we know that stage1 and stage2 and all other things are in the >GRUB directory look them up yourself). So it locates the GRUB directory >to load s

Re: GRUB failure

Bret Hughes wrote: Just curious what is in the device.map file? This is where grub assigns device numbers used in grub.conf. I don't know if this is used in the installation of grub on the mbr or after but since I don't remember anything about this I thought I would ask. If it was posted alread

RE: GRUB failure

This is excerpts from the GNU GRUB manual. The manual suggests that you may have a problem with the device map in /boot/grub (this maybe where it is located). It says that GRUB doesn't know how to translate from bios disk to OS designations so it uses the device map in the grub directory. So Ashl

RE: GRUB failure

thanks > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Ha

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 13:13:46 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > Knowing where the GRUB directory is doesn't have anything to do with > knowing where things are located. The MBR is in the 1st sector of the > drive we agree. Once GRUB is called it goes to

RE: GRUB failure

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: S

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 09:28:56 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > > BIOS loads and starts the code from master boot record, but code in > > MBR fails to load stage1.5 which is located at a fixed position on > > hda. At that point, GRUB does not even know ab

RE: GRUB failure

On Sun, 2003-08-03 at 02:27, brian davison wrote: > Kenneth... I feel Your on the right track here... you may have missed her > post where she said nothing was changed and went on to say she did > switch jumper positions... this changes same parts of the hardware > addressing. so a

RE: GRUB failure

BTW the MBR is on HDA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED M

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> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: S

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 04:13:09 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > We have all been ignoring one fact and that is for some reason > GRUB is loading part of the boot loader on the second drive. Unfortunately, the shown grub.conf does not agree with th

Re: GRUB failure

Otto Haliburton wrote: What kind of disk contoller do you have and what kind of computer system(manufacturer) is this computer. I can tell you Monday when I get to the office and pull the specs on the board. It's a (custom built) white box containing an Intel board. One IDE bus, and 2 aic78

RE: GRUB failure

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > Otto Haliburton wrote: > > >Ashley while I believe you when you say that there > >is nothing on drive B would you post a fdisk listing of partitions on > >drive b. > > > You really don't believe me when

Re: GRUB failure

Otto Haliburton wrote: Ashley while I believe you when you say that there is nothing on drive B would you post a fdisk listing of partitions on drive b. You really don't believe me when I say there's -NOTHING- on the drive, do you? How about this? I've actually killed everything, including

RE: GRUB failure

Hi all, We have all been ignoring one fact and that is for some reason GRUB is loading part of the boot loader on the second drive. It apparently thinks that linux is on the second drive. A setup where the boot loader is on the MBR of drive A but linux is on drive B so that the boot is A

Re: GRUB failure

brian davison wrote: Ashley... try not changing the drive to single... leave it as the Master. ( as in "don't change the jumper when removing the second drive") No can do. hda has three settings on it: Master, Master w/ Slave, and Slave. Since hdb was installed, it's been set to Master

RE: GRUB failure

Kenneth... I feel Your on the right track here... you may have missed her post where she said nothing was changed and went on to say she did switch jumper positions... this changes same parts of the hardware addressing. so a hard coded "go there" might not see what a bios call would

RE: GRUB failure

If this hasn't been tried yet the bioses don't all need/ want the drives to be set any way but master or slave. Ashley... try not changing the drive to single... leave it as the Master. ( as in "don't change the jumper when removing the second drive") the addressing of the drive

RE: GRUB failure

Behalf Of Otto Haliburton Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GRUB failure This is a test message to see the format. Do not respond to this message. It has already been sent. HIII

RE: GRUB failure

TT. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 2:31 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > &g

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T. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 2:31 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: GRUB failure > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:40:49 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > There is also a explanation if the volumes are LVM or RAID. No. LVM is not available before the initrd is loaded and the kernel is started. Same for Software-RAID. You boot from a physical

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:47:47 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > Anyone know for certain who is printing out the INitial GRUB > message? > > The MBR or phase two piece. MBR (stage1) prints only GRUB because of space constraints. It has only very few and

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:36:17 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > Is your configuration a SCSI? If it is then there is a explanation That wouldn't access the harddisk drives as /dev/hda and /dev/hdb, respectively. Btw, it would be great if you could trim

RE: GRUB Failure

o go home. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: GRUB Failure > > > > >Well I&

RE: GRUB Failure

There is also a explanation if the volumes are LVM or RAID. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Otto Haliburton Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GRUB Failure Remember. You can boot with a floppy and

RE: GRUB Failure

Remember. You can boot with a floppy and everything works correctly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GRUB Failure > >Well I'm not so

RE: GRUB failure

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashley M. Kirchner Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure Michael Schwendt wrote: >Unless we hear once >more from Ashley (who is confronted with this

RE: GRUB failure

> This has certainly sparked an interesting conversation, > and aside > from me trying everything everyone has suggested here, I > don't know what > else to do than to just say 'fuck it'. It works with hdb in place. > There is, to me, no logical explanation as to why grub would just >

RE: GRUB failure

> > Let refine my answer to it can't find the grub directory period. The MBR is not even finding the start of the secondary loader here. Perhaps it all happens too fast - Does the drive light flicker when it tries to load phase two or not? If no disk activity after the initial MBR load is seen

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> > > What I did notice is there wasn't a /boot > > partition in the listing that was sent > > You don't need a /boot partition. The grub.conf was > perfectly valid with > /dev/hda1 = (hd0,0) being the root partition and containing the /boot > directory. > > The code from MBR fails to load G

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> >Well I'm not so sure about that.. whenever GRUB doesn't > find it's grub.conf file, > it just enters it's CLI mode from where you can do things > manually. This is not the > problem. >I've had the same situation happen to me with LILO, when I > first installed RH, > , and one fine

Re: GRUB failure

Michael Schwendt wrote: Unless we hear once more from Ashley (who is confronted with this weird problem), we can only speculate that is hardware-related most likely. Setting the disk geometry scheme to LBA and re-installing GRUB should _theoretically_ fix it. This has certainly sparked an in

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weird thought > switching her disk geometry scheme to LBA and re-installing GRUB should > I did not see her? original psoting so I dont know exactly what her two drive setup was. But I thought most systems were running LBA mode by default now adays. Perhaps the setup had two different con

RE: GRUB failure

> Ashley said that was done as well as changed the hardware to > single boot > disk from master/slave. The only solution seems to be reinstall hdb > which indicates to me that it is not hardware related but > something is > causing the partitions to be changed. There maybe some link or > so

RE: GRUB failure

> Maybe I misunderstand here, but this seems to be a situation > where - > > A working Linux system using GRUB with MBR on HD-A, .conf > file on HD-A > had a new disk drive HD-B added to it. > > They did nothing apparently to reconfigure the box > bootwise. > They added

Re: GRUB failure

On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 16:56, Otto Haliburton wrote: > For you to solve this problem I think that you need to read what happens > when you boot. I'm not trying to insult you but from what you are > stating you don't understand how the computer boots and therefore what > happens in GRUB. > > > On

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:51:38 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > What I did notice is there wasn't a /boot > partition in the listing that was sent You don't need a /boot partition. The grub.conf was perfectly valid with /dev/hda1 = (hd0,0) being the root

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:41:13 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > > That's where you are wrong!!! It doesn't find the .conf file that is > > why it goes no further. The very first thing it does is try to locate > > the .conf file so that [...] > > *sigh*

Re: GRUB Failure

Otto Haliburton wrote: > >What I'm saying is that we know what the problem is and that is GRUB >can't find the .conf file period. Your solution lies in getting GRUB to >find the .conf file. > Well I'm not so sure about that.. whenever GRUB doesn't find it's grub.conf file, it just enters it's

RE: GRUB failure

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:26:39 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin

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Update, forgot one little detail. > > Maybe I misunderstand here, but this seems to be a situation > where - > > A working Linux system using GRUB with MBR on HD-A, .conf > file on HD-A > had a new disk drive HD-B added to it. > > They did nothing apparently to reconfigure the

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:26:39 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > Perhaps the problem owner can explain what I am > misunderstanding here? IMHO you have understood the problem perfectly. Unless we hear once more from Ashley (who is confronted with this wei

RE: GRUB failure

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:23:40 -0500, Otto Haliburton

RE: GRUB failure

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Goodwin Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: GRUB failure > > Again, you're not understanding the problem. When you boot > you transfer >

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:23:40 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > That's where you are wrong!!! It doesn't find the .conf file that is > why it goes no further. The very first thing it does is try to locate > the .conf file so that [...] *sigh* That's c

RE: GRUB failure

> > Again, you're not understanding the problem. When you boot > you transfer > to the MBR which loads GRUB. GRUB then loads the config > file and prints > the boot images and identifies to itself where the kernels images are > located. When you select one it transfers to that kernel image

RE: GRUB failure

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01 Aug 2003 16:54:23 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote

RE: GRUB failure

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GRUB failure -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01 Aug 2003 16:56:58 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01 Aug 2003 16:54:23 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > Again, you're not understanding the problem. When you boot you transfer > to the MBR which loads GRUB. GRUB then loads the config file and prints > the boot images and identifies to itself wher

Re: GRUB failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01 Aug 2003 16:56:58 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > For you to solve this problem I think that you need to read what happens > when you boot. I'm not trying to insult you but from what you are > stating you don't understand how the computer boots

Re: GRUB failure

On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 16:52, Michael Schwendt wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01 Aug 2003 16:46:29 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote: > > > You are getting GRUB when you boot because it is properly transferring > > to the MBR, but when it tries to determine where to loc

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