Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
O, I even believe that e.g. all (or a large number of) Dutch streets are in Wikidata without having a Wikipedia article for the individual streets. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for explaining, Andy. > > Please note that a

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
. It is true that each Wikipedia article (or page) has a Wikidata entry, but not the other way around. regards m On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 28/09/2017 10:36, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> Andy are you now saying that it is OK to have 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Links from wiki* back into OSM (was: Overlapping brands)

2017-09-28 Thread Marc Gemis
Andy are you now saying that it is OK to have 1 wikidata tag on each street, so someone can create an external list of streets with Wikidata ids to represent some kind of collection (like "all streets named after Leuven") ? m. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Andy Townsend

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
So you do not agree with the Automated Edits code of conduct ? If an automated edit takes place in a country, why do you expect that that community follows the talk mailing list or even speak English ? People has the right to know that some stranger starts making changes in their area without

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping brands (was "Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*")

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
> > Can anyone think of an example where two unrelated brands share the same > name and category of business in the same geographical area? Is "the same geographical area" relevant ? Why should a data consumer use a separate datebase to identify the brand of an item ? Suppose I want to find all

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread Marc Gemis
I fail to understand how an external database can link to an OSM location in case we do not allow foreign keys. I know there is some vague "find something with a name similar to X in some area Y" kind of strategy, but did somebody ever implemented such a thing ? I doubt that "area Y" is always

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-26 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > That's simply rubbish. Tags on an OSM object describe it in the real world. > They should be verifiable. Whether an OSM object has a wikidata tag on it > is essentially irrelevant as far as OSM is concerned - it's just a

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-26 Thread Marc Gemis
, not a programmers project, it's about people, not software :-) On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: > On 26 September 2017 at 04:14, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I believe the mechanical edit polity demands that you di

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
let humans do decision making. This would improve contributors morale, > instead of making them feel like robots :) > > Clarifying: the OSM objects already point to those pages via redirect. The > redirect information is only stored in Wikipedia. > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
or via Osmose ? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > what about a Maproulette task ? > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM ob

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
what about a Maproulette task ? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia tag does > not match their wikidata tag. Most of them are Wikipedia redirects, whose > target is the right

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
> moving it here. I believe I acted in good faith according to the mechanical > edit policy - discussed with the community, and proceeded. I believe the mechanical edit polity demands that you discuss with the *local* community. That means if your edit modifies items in e.g. Mexico, Belgium and

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-22 Thread Marc Gemis
/mapillary/mapillary_tools m. On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:22 PM, ael <law_ence@ntlworld.com> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 09:26:53AM +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> I use a DSLR to take pictures, then georeference them, and then upload >> them via a Jython script

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-22 Thread Marc Gemis
Then I would go with Wikipedia, you can more or less chose any open license you want for the pictures. Those pictures will show up next to Mapillary and OSC photo's on http://projets.pavie.info/pic4carto/index.html As to what is interesting: we map: * landuse * POIs (shops, hotels, ...) *

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-22 Thread Marc Gemis
pictures that I have taken, I prefer the digital reflex approach. But for destination signs on motorways and other main roads, OSC/Mapillary might be the only way to catch those images. m. On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, David Woolley <for...@david-woolley.me.uk> wrote: > On 22/09/17 08

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-22 Thread Marc Gemis
(Second try, the first one went only to Neil) Slightly off-topic, but answering Neil's questions: I use a DSLR to take pictures, then georeference them, and then upload them via a Jython script to OpenStreetCam. I use the Mapilary website to upload them there as well. They have scripts to upload

[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Osmose-QA - Mapillary traffic signs matching

2017-09-21 Thread Marc Gemis
-- Forwarded message -- From: Frédéric Rodrigo Date: Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:19 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Osmose-QA - Mapillary traffic signs matching To: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list Hello, In Osmose-QA we experiment to point

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-09-20 Thread Marc Gemis
As for the Faroer Islands (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4628) I see some contradicting information there.The labels refer to an archipelago, while the "is a" statement refers to an administrative part of Denmark. When an item has only 1 "is a" statement, it is not possible to refer to 2

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of Drones

2017-09-18 Thread Marc Gemis
Oleksiy Muzalyev seems to be pretty knowledgable on drones. He has posted about it a couple of times on the talk mailing list. e.g. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2016-September/076758.html But he's not living in the UK. regards m. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Brian

Re: [Talk-us] Hurricane Irma - Puerto Rico

2017-09-06 Thread Marc Gemis
The hot task manager http://tasks.hotosm.org/ already lists 4 tasks : 3499, 3501, 3502 and 3504 regards m. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:33 AM, Jordan Brod wrote: > Hey all, > > I was curious if anybody was planning to do a response similar to what was > done in the Houston

Re: [Talk-us] Gender in OpenStreetMap

2017-09-05 Thread Marc Gemis
In the old thread someone wrote (paraphrasing): I map from photographs, so I'm not biased. Since I map in the same way, I have a couple of thoughts. A photo is a personal interpretation of the real world. The photographer framed the scene, leaving out or including items. This can be conscious or

Re: [Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-05 Thread Marc Gemis
While I agree that changing peoples mapping habits is possible by posting about certain mapping subjects, or developing apps, I do not see why it is wrong to question whether a typical mapper only maps what interests him/her or whether they also map other stuff. I map a lot of items in which I

Re: [Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

2017-09-05 Thread Marc Gemis
One of the discussion points on her diary entry was female hygiene products found in women's toilets. How is a man going to map that, without access to women's toilets ? The real question for me is are men more likely going to map shop=car than shop=clothes;clothes=underwear/fashion/ ... (sorry

Re: [OSM-talk-be] bug adresse

2017-08-26 Thread Marc Gemis
Nominatim never takes any data from the node, besides the housenumber. With the addr:street of the node it find the closest street with the same "name". It can also use an associatedStreet relation to find the street. Then everything else is taken from the street. If the street (or any other

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] ligne de bus : tag network

2017-08-23 Thread Marc Gemis
> > Oui mais https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability > 1. Il contient au moins un lien de site valide vers une page de > Wikipédia, Wikivoyage, Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wiki-news, Wikibooks, > Wikiversité, Wiki-data, ou Wikimédia Commons. <...> une même page > Wikipédia ne peut être liée

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-23 Thread Marc Gemis
> >> maxspeed:practical should take dense account or traffic jams into >> account as good as possible. So far I am not aware of any router >> evaluating time based conditional restrictions but those could be >> used to take rush hours somewhat into account. > > Agreed. Or even live traffic. But

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread Marc Gemis
Did you try with e.g. MapFactor Navigator, which has settings for your preference of 8 road categories + maxspeed inside & outside towns ? Just being curious. regards m On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 22/08/17 11:41, Colin Smale wrote: >> I agree,

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-20 Thread Marc Gemis
> So basically: please don't go adjusting roads in the US away from > established rough consensus because you think it ought to be different. or anywhere else I would say :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-19 Thread Marc Gemis
As you can see from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence, trunk roads are defined differently in many countries. If you look at e.g. Denmark, a trunk road needs a special sign. Those signs typically come with some rules and permissions (e.g. higher speed allowed,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Hectometerbordjes

2017-08-16 Thread Marc Gemis
Joost, hectometer bordjes is nog iets anders dan verkeerborden. Hectometer bordjes dienen enkel om een plaats op de autosnelweg aan te duiden, zodat bv. hulpdiensten naar de juiste plek kunnen rijden. Als we die in OSM zouden plaatsen, kan je met navigatie software naar de exacte plaats van het

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Hectometerbordjes

2017-08-16 Thread Marc Gemis
.) > > Mvg, > Killian > > On 16-08-17 06:53, Marc Gemis wrote: >> ja en nee. de import procedure is nooit gemakkelijk :-) >> >> 2017-08-15 15:02 GMT+02:00 Philippe Casteleyn <philippecastel...@hotmail.com >> <mailto:philippecastel...@hotmail.com>>

Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-08-15 Thread Marc Gemis
Isn't this something for the Data Working Group: d...@osmfoundation.org ? regards m On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:10 AM, Robin Paulson wrote: > Before I ask for assistance, please note this: I've already brought > this up on osm-imports and got nowhere useful. > > There

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Hectometerbordjes

2017-08-15 Thread Marc Gemis
ja en nee. de import procedure is nooit gemakkelijk :-) 2017-08-15 15:02 GMT+02:00 Philippe Casteleyn : > http://wegenenverkeer.be/persberichten/19300-kilometerbordjes-worden- > vervangen > 19.300 kilometerbordjes worden vervangen | Wegen & Verkeer >

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Edits in Wales

2017-08-14 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 14/08/2017 15:04, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> So how can you determine the preferred name from looking at that sign ? > > > From looking at the sign, you can't - but if you visit a place and o

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Edits in Wales

2017-08-14 Thread Marc Gemis
017 14:53, Marc Gemis wrote: >> >> Can I translate this to the Belgian situation to see if I understand >> you correctly ? > > > Marc, > > Everywhere is not like Belgium. Could you try answering the question? > Where there is a locally preferred name, how would I k

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Edits in Wales

2017-08-14 Thread Marc Gemis
I don't understand this question. Who defines what the preferred name is ? The people living in that street, neighborhood, village, Wales ? Or the subset of mappers in any of those items ? Can I translate this to the Belgian situation to see if I understand you correctly ? We came up with a

Re: [Talk-GB] Edits in Wales

2017-08-13 Thread Marc Gemis
hallo, sorry to say, but so far this thread reads as follows for me * please do not map what is on the ground * do not follow the wiki, it's wrong * join us at a pub meeting and we tell you how to map * o yes, we do not have pub meetings in remote areas * you will have to contact half of the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Uploader ensemble de waypoints d'un fichier GPX ?

2017-08-11 Thread Marc Gemis
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Dialog/Filter peut aider. 2017-08-11 14:47 GMT+02:00 Shohreh : > Ah oui. Donc quand on fait File > Download (from OSM/in current view), il > télécharge tous les objets qui existent dans OSM, d'où une carte très > compliquée. Une fois

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Tagging] Brasserie

2017-08-09 Thread Marc Gemis
There is no established way to map "kitchen-hours" at this moment AFAIK. You could solve this with 2 nodes, one restaurant, one pub with different opening hours, grouped together in a site relation. But if this is the best way to do so, is debatable. According to the wikipedia definition, I think

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 116, Issue 6

2017-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
voor zover ik kon zien heeft er iemand jouw bridge_ref vervangen door bridge:ref verder hebben ze je mapillary:S=https://www.mapillary.com/...t9ZwgBn8OnqVWTMWpmvGyw... vervangen door mapillary=t9ZwgBn8OnqVWTMWpmvGyw zoals ook beschreven staat in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mapillary

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brugnummering

2017-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
lt;gl...@byte-consult.be>: > On 08-08-17 15:14, Marc Gemis wrote: >>> >>> Wat ik tegenwoordig veel zie is dat mensen de bruggen een naam geven, >>> die eigenlijk officiel nooit gebruikt wordt, die dus verkeerdelijk in >>> 'name' key worden gezet. >> >>

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brugnummering

2017-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
> > Wat ik tegenwoordig veel zie is dat mensen de bruggen een naam geven, > die eigenlijk officiel nooit gebruikt wordt, die dus verkeerdelijk in > 'name' key worden gezet. Heb je daar een voorbeeld van ? Als je kijkt naar bv.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brugnummering

2017-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
Zoals je kan zien bij de foto van de brug (via de mapillary link op de way), staat er een bordje met B.15 op. Dit lijkt mij nog een bordje oude stijl (blauw met witte letters). Veel bruggen hebben nu een geel bordje met zwarte letters, niet ? Ik denk dat er zelfs een zwart leeuwtje opstaat. Omdat

Re: [OSM-talk-be] determination: man_made=bridge wrong rendered ?

2017-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
seems like a bug in the renderer to me. Did you report it on https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto ? m. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Jakka wrote: > Determination: a bridge with nothing going over it anymore added as > man_made=bridge and layer=1 is not

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Tagging] Brasserie

2017-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
sine=italian etc. > >>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> But unlike a real pub (a "café" in Dutch and French - or "bruine >>>>> kroeg"), you can get a dec

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Tagging] Brasserie

2017-08-08 Thread Marc Gemis
nt%3Atype%3Ait it seems > that those should be replaced by cuisine=italian etc. > > > Le 8/08/2017 à 05:48, Marc Gemis a écrit : >> >> ps. look at taginfo: >> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=restaurant%3Atype >> reataurant:type:it is used 629 times. Tha

[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Tagging] Brasserie

2017-08-07 Thread Marc Gemis
ps. look at taginfo: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=restaurant%3Atype reataurant:type:it is used 629 times. That was another source of inspiration for me. But it doesn't fit for amenity=pub. There is 1 pub:type:it though. m On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Marc Gemis <marc

[OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the Month.

2017-07-18 Thread Marc Gemis
This series still continues, this time we have a Canadian: Jamie Nadeau en: http://www.osm.be/2017/07/18/en-motm-jamie_nadeau.html fr: http://www.osm.be/2017/07/18/fr-motm-jamie_nadeau.html nl: http://www.osm.be/2017/07/18/nl-motm-jamie_nadeau.html You can find out more about this project and

Re: [Talk-us] Tiger Zip Data Removal Project (Update)

2017-07-16 Thread Marc Gemis
I wonder whether it is interesting to know the difference between concrete, asphalt and pervious concrete. All three have different characteristics whether it be comfort for the cyclist or being dangerous under icy conditions or durability under heavy loaded trucks. What do you think ? Is it worth

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tags wikidata et wikipedia pour les commerces/enseignes...

2017-07-16 Thread Marc Gemis
pas wikidata, mais brand:wikidata: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brand:wikidata m. 2017-07-16 22:45 GMT+02:00 Romain MEHUT : > Bonsoir, > > Petite question : que pensez-vous de multiplier les tags wikidata et > wikipedia pour tous les commerces d'une même

Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing 3

2017-07-14 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Eric Ladner wrote: > Just to play Devil's advocate: B is probably more TECHNICALLY correct since > a solid white line indicates "lane change discouraged, but not illegal" and > you'd probably want the routing software to indicate where the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map an amenity that spans several buildings?

2017-07-10 Thread Marc Gemis
a fourth method would be to just add a node at the entrance of the shop with all details. That might be the preferred way if not all floors in the building are occupied by the shop. The indoor mapping scheme could solve that problem. m. On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Marc Gemis <marc

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map an amenity that spans several buildings?

2017-07-09 Thread Marc Gemis
3 possible solutions: * area around the 4 buildings, tagged with shop=* and all the other tags for the shop * site-relation, although that should only be used in case the object consists of non-adjacent areas * multi-polygon, although that one should be used primarily for donuts like features.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Potlatch crasht keer op keer

2017-07-02 Thread Marc Gemis
According to this forum topic https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=58784 people are working on Firefox/Flash https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1374559 to solve the problem. m On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Karel Adams wrote: > Already for a couple of

Re: [Talk-GB] Uploading pictures to OSM

2017-06-27 Thread Marc Gemis
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:57 PM, SK53 wrote: > A single tag of the form flickr:id= would work to provide a single > reference photo. People have at various times tried to identify with tags > the photos which they used as part of surveys to edit a particular element. >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 114, Issue 22

2017-06-21 Thread Marc Gemis
2017-06-21 17:18 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe : > Dus geen fout in de data van Wegen en Verkeer dan? > geen fout, enkel onnauwkeurig. ze duiden de verlaagde snelheid voor de verkeerslichten niet aan. m ___ Talk-be mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 114, Issue 22

2017-06-21 Thread Marc Gemis
u can reach the person managing the list at > talk-be-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-be digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: 90->70 in Vlaandere

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 90->70 in Vlaanderen

2017-06-20 Thread Marc Gemis
2017-06-15 15:54 GMT+02:00 Brecht Van Maldergem : > Nou, het ziet ernaar uit dat ik de fout heb gevonden. In de shapefile zitten > nieuwe en oude snelheden. Soms is de nieuwe snelheid ongewijzigd 90 > gebleven. Dit kaartje toont al die segmenten: > > > >

Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing 2

2017-06-20 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:37 PM, wrote: > The turn lanes plugin seems to support this nicely: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/8wmp5h2cn931pic/Screenshot%202017-06-19%2014.33.40.jpg?dl=0 > — even though the center lane is rarely marked with left turn arrows, as > suggested by the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 90->70 in Vlaanderen

2017-06-15 Thread Marc Gemis
2017-06-15 16:59 GMT+02:00 Guy Vanvuchelen : > Misschien een domme vraag. Gaat het om ‘hoe het moet’ of ‘hoe het is’. Ik > bedoel hiermee dat er waarschijnlijk richtlijnen zijn die aangeven hoeveel > de snelheid op de wegen moet zijn maar anderzijds ben ik nog nergens

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping traffic signals and stop signs using MapRoulette

2017-06-13 Thread Marc Gemis
a proposal, relations will not be used. regards m. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> As I asked you before, show me a real world case where you hav

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping traffic signals and stop signs using MapRoulette

2017-06-13 Thread Marc Gemis
that proposal, move it forward, make sure the tools get updated etc. m. On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:00 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Paul J

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping traffic signals and stop signs using MapRoulette

2017-06-13 Thread Marc Gemis
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > How does it not? A node doesn't infer a way that it's attached to, though a > node may infer what nodes it crosses through. This is why relations became > a thing, to model things that can't be inferred from the other

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Belang van photo's.

2017-06-11 Thread Marc Gemis
Nu ik begrijp wel waar je naar toe wil, bedankt. Zelf gebruik ik daarvoor de source_ref tag op de changeset met een verwijzing naar de foto's. Ik ga daarvoor de database niet groter maken met een foto van ieder objectje. Als je dat extreem doortrekt, moet je een foto plaatsen bij een gebouw met

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to find the nearest "Spoedgevallen"

2017-06-11 Thread Marc Gemis
2017-06-10 15:40 GMT+02:00 Jakka : > anders zal intypen in de zoek van zijn plannerIs er zoiets die > standaard die zoekwoorden omzet naar emercency zodat iedereen in gelijk welk > land naar de spoed geraakt. Voor Nominatim is er

Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to find the nearest "Spoedgevallen" "A"

2017-06-09 Thread Marc Gemis
According to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhospital " If you know whether or not the hospital in question is equipped to deal with emergencies - this is called A (accidents and emergencies) in the UK and ER (emergency room) in the US - then you can add emergency=* with a value

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 90->70 in Vlaanderen

2017-06-08 Thread Marc Gemis
Inderdaad, R6 rond Mechelen is ook verkeerdelijk aangepast. Misschien zou Brecht al die aangeduide plaatsen in persoon kunnen gaan bekijken hoe de situatie daar nu is ? :-) Dus nog maar weer eens een import die slecht is uitgevoerd. m. 2017-06-01 18:45 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
) and don't make the difference between type of secondary > education. >(Because: old fashioned thinking, It physically doenst exist anymore (in > alot of cases ) > > 2017-06-02 11:40 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>: >> >> Joost, Ben, >>

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
Joost, Ben, The question remains, is a "Middelbaar beroepsonderwijs." in Belgium a college or a school ? Michaël, Guy and myself believe it is school. The Dutch mapper said it is college (for The Netherlands). Should the wiki differentiate between Belgium and The Netherlands (because the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
hool" it is not the same now. > I think it is different then in the Netherlands, England or other country's. > A serious Belgium wiki would help our OSM.BE community. > > Op 2/06/2017 om 7:01 schreef Marc Gemis: > >> Niemand buiten Guy die een constructieve bijdrage heeft ? >>

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

2017-06-02 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Michaël Dierick wrote: > Therefore, in my opinion, using the tag "amenity=college" for secondary > schools (as in "secundair onderwijs", "école secondaire") is a bad idea, > even though in dutch it can be called a "college". > Would it be

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

2017-06-01 Thread Marc Gemis
Niemand buiten Guy die een constructieve bijdrage heeft ? No-one except Guy that have some useful to say ? Quelqu'un qui peut dire quelque chose intéressant sur ce sujet ? Niemand, der einen positiven Beitrag hat ? (auto translated) :-( :-( :-( Laat u aub niet afschrikken om in het Nederlands,

Re: [Talk-GB] Whether to tag/best tag for an unofficial name?

2017-06-01 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Adam Snape wrote: > So that map users aren't confused by directions using non-existant names, > I've changed the Walton Summit example from name to alt_name and added a > note to explain. I have also changed the section of the M6 labelled

Re: [OSM-talk-be] suburb

2017-06-01 Thread Marc Gemis
2017-06-01 11:45 GMT+02:00 Guy Vanvuchelen : > Bedankt Marc, voor het antwoord. Maar ik begin te begrijpen dat nieuwe, en > oudere, mappers afhaken. > Je doet moeite om veel zaken fatsoenlijk te mappen en uiteindelijk blijkt het > verloren moeite. Ik denk dat we

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Authorization request for use of SPW data (PICC, orthophotos and others) and OSM representative

2017-06-01 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Thomas Bertels wrote: > That's exactly the kind of thing you'll be able to talk about. > However, I don't understand what vector data you talk about. From what I > know, the SPW data is in raster format, and it seems we can vectorize it >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Authorization request for use of SPW data (PICC, orthophotos and others) and OSM representative

2017-06-01 Thread Marc Gemis
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Thomas Bertels wrote: > First, I strongly discourage using ID and Potlatch. This is what has led to > highly imprecise Wallonia tagging as well as introducing tagging errors over > the years. All that work has to be redone with correction. >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] suburb

2017-06-01 Thread Marc Gemis
De presets van JOSM zijn niet aangepast per land, dus ja het zou kunnen dat er mensen dit gaan invullen als ze JOSM gebruiken. De vertaling aanpassen is misschien ook lastig, als ze in Nederland wel suburb gebruiken om deelgemeentes aan te geven. Maar je kan onmogelijk alle clients controleren.

[OSM-talk-be] Tagging of schools/college

2017-05-30 Thread Marc Gemis
A Dutch mapper changed the "Hoe map ik een" school the other day.[1] The original discussion leading to the change can be found here: [2] in Dutch and with a lot of acronyms specific for The Netherlands. Do we want to map "Middelbaar beroepsonderwijs." (L'enseignement secondaire professionnel ?)

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Dixit JOSM: missing tag - street with odd number of lanes, but without lanes:forward and lanes:backward or oneway

2017-05-25 Thread Marc Gemis
One of the problems is that the lanes-tag only count the lanes for cars, while all the other xxx:lanes tags should also count e.g. cycle lanes. None of the validators (Osmose, JOSM) that I know take this difference into account. m. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Yves bxl-forever

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Combination of a speed cushion and a rising bollard

2017-05-20 Thread Marc Gemis
As long as you map the results of this device on the street (e.g. by using motor_vehicle=no, or highway=pedestrian), the navigation software does not care what type of barrier you map. m. On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Yves bxl-forever wrote: > Hello, > > An

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 90->70 in Vlaanderen

2017-05-16 Thread Marc Gemis
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Brecht Van Maldergem wrote: > Gezien er begin dit jaar nog veel wegen waren die nog niet omgezet waren van > 90 naar 70 in de OSM dB, hebben wij de vrijheid genomen om deze inderdaad > zelf op te nemen; Dit valt toe te

Re: [OSM-talk-be] 90->70 in Vlaanderen

2017-05-15 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Glenn Plas wrote: > Wouldn't it be nice if we got paid for edit work ? :) aren't there vacancies at Telenav or Mapbox ? :-) BTW, paid mappers should follow: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organized_Editing_Policy , as far as I

[OSM-talk-be] (no subject)

2017-05-15 Thread Marc Gemis
op de mailing list gepasseerd bij de vorige 90->70 discussie m. 2017-05-15 15:53 GMT+02:00 Glenn Plas <gl...@byte-consult.be>: > changeset ID ? > > Dit is altijd zo frustrerend... doe-maar-op-mappers met > ik-heb-mijn-eigen-regels voor OSM > > Glenn > > > On 15-

[OSM-talk-be] 90->70 in Vlaanderen

2017-05-15 Thread Marc Gemis
Ik heb dit weekend de N16 tussen Willebroek en Temse terug naar 90 km/h gebracht. Een overijverige mapster heeft volgens mij gewoon alle 90 door 70 vervangen zonder lokale kennis. Misschien best eens in je eigen buurt kijken, want ze heeft behoorlijk wat wijzigingen gedaan Op mijn

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-12 Thread Marc Gemis
ok, multiple from in a relation will solve this. Isn't it a problem that some "from"s do not end in some "intersection"s ? On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge.

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-12 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> to: the collection of ways one can travel to after stopping/giving >> way/waiting for traffic signal. This would include the from way so >> u-turns have to obey the sign/signal as well. > > > Yes. At a minimum, a

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-12 Thread Marc Gemis
So would a stop sign / give way sign /traffic signal then be mapped as stop_position: node where on the street does one have to stop/give way/wait for traffic signal sign : node (optional) the exact location of the sign from: the way one is following to which the action has to be applied (is this

[OSM-talk-be] Digital Globe Images

2017-05-10 Thread Marc Gemis
Digital Globe has opened the access to their images for OSM, details in http://blog.digitalglobe.com/news/digitalglobe-satellite-imagery-launch-for-openstreetmap/ I did a few tests (Hingene & Huy) but it seems that they do not improve what we already have in Belgium. Maybe it is useful in other

Re: [talk-au] Mobile phone towers

2017-05-07 Thread Marc Gemis
You could add the operator tag to indicate the owner. regards m On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi > > Just putting a nearby newish mobile tower on the map. > > Due we worry about naming who's tower it is? > > Couldn't see anything in the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Large multipolygons for Forêt d'Anlier

2017-05-05 Thread Marc Gemis
Julien, As for the warnings, can you let us know the exact warning ? Most likely it has something to do with an impossible combination of 2 multi polygons e.g. nested outer polygons or touching inner/outer polygons. As for the mapping, it depends on whether Forêt d'Anlier can be be mapped as -1

Re: [OSM-talk-be] hoe peuktegel mappen?

2017-05-05 Thread Marc Gemis
Philippe, Bedankt voor je uitleg. Gebrek aan interesse is een goede reden om iets niet te mappen. Het achterlaten van "notes" via de mailing list om iets te mappen vind ik dan wel weer vreemd. Je wil niemand zijn vuiligheid opkuisen, maar verwacht wel dat wij alle informatie van jouw foto's die

Re: [OSM-talk-be] hoe peuktegel mappen?

2017-05-04 Thread Marc Gemis
Philippe, is er een reden waarom je ze zelf niet mapped? m Op 4 mei 2017 14:25 schreef "Philippe Casteleyn" < philippecastel...@hotmail.com>: > Hier eentje in Mechelen dat jullie meteen mogen mappen. > > > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=N89OSCqffK0BS5Ph2CYupA; >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] hoe peuktegel mappen?

2017-05-04 Thread Marc Gemis
An underground fire hydrant does not look like the pillar shaped (above the ground) one, still we tag both as fire hydrant. So why wouldn't we map underground waste_baskets the same as the above the ground ones ? I'll admit that Guy's proposal is also possible, but "Waste disposal is used for

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Land-use mapping with OSM in Belgium

2017-05-02 Thread Marc Gemis
; amenity=*, leisure=* and tourism=* all as landuse representation, it implies > that we should also remove the landuse=residential (or any other) where we > have something like amenity=school (because it is already a landuse that > probably better fit than the landuse=residential). What do you thin

Re: [OSM-talk-be] preset Traffic-signs-BE

2017-05-01 Thread Marc Gemis
Volgens het verkeersreglement is dit inderdaad een weg voor plaatselijk verkeer. De tractorsluis moet je afzonderlijk mappen met motorcar=no; agricultural=yes (*) Tot aan de tractorsluis kan je met om het even welk voertuig rijden. Dat moet ook uit de data blijken. Het bord staat bv. bij de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Land-use mapping with OSM in Belgium

2017-04-28 Thread Marc Gemis
Here is one answer I got, Martin was so kind to put it into a diary entry: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dieterdreist/diary/40993 On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Lionel Giard <lionel.gi...@gmai

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Land-use mapping with OSM in Belgium

2017-04-28 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Lionel Giard wrote: > But for the roads, ideally, it should ideally be an area (like on the GRB of > Vlaandereen or the PICC of Wallonia) with also the existing line to allow > routing. I don't know, if we must change existing residential

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-28 Thread Marc Gemis
about cycleways). m. On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Just curious, do you apply the same arguments to map separate >> sidewalks and s

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Land-use mapping with OSM in Belgium

2017-04-27 Thread Marc Gemis
in the landuse. Thus it seems important to solve > some problems like what should be the landuse tag under a road ? > > 2017-04-27 14:29 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>: >> >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 1:50 PM, joost schouppe >> <joost.schou...@gma

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Marc Gemis
Just curious, do you apply the same arguments to map separate sidewalks and sidewalks separate from cycle ways ? Or are there reasons to treat sidewalk differently ? m On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2017-04-27 9:19 GMT+02:00 joost

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