Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM

2024-02-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/02/2024 11:45, Mark Pulley wrote: I’ve got some further info on how this user has been editing (see comment on changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/117791362 ) In short, Harsimranjit works for an un-named company. Unspecified people can report an incorrect speed limit on a

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-01-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/01/2024 22:03, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Only thought there is should the note= possibly be a description= ? Notes are only visible to mappers on OSM, descriptions show to "everybody" (?) using it downstream. This seems to be referring to an OSM note _tag_ rather than "OSM notes"

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/10/2023 00:01, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: & for some reason, Andy's reply didn't appear in my email until after I sent my own saying more or less the same thing? I cocked it up anyway - sending it from a phone as html only, so I suspect many people (including the list archive) won't see

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-08 Thread Andy Townsend
> The path of least harm is to let land managers remove informal paths and leave them removedI'm not actually convinced that is true.If something is visible from

Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

2023-09-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/09/2023 10:43, Paul Norman wrote: They have edited it back with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141281494. I've left a changeset discussion comment asking why, and asking for a link to the required documentation and consultation. Maybe I'm being over-cynical, but I suspect

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed bulk removal of service=driveway2

2023-06-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/06/2023 00:02, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: And indeed, nine months later, we see that not only has the work not gotten done, but while we all squabbled away with our pet views about automated editing, we find that we agreed to nothing, and the mapper has quietly continued to add this

Re: [talk-au] Routing problem near Albany, WA

2023-06-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/06/2023 03:00, Ian Steer wrote: My Garmin GPSMAP 66i gives misleading routing instructions at a new intersection on Albany Highway near Albany when using OSM data. One thing that might be useful to know is what was used to create the Garmin .img file from the .osm data.  Control over

Re: [OSM-talk] mapilio? (street-level imagery)

2023-05-31 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/05/2023 13:31, Greg Troxel wrote: I just got spam from mapilio, implying that I was a "Mapilio contributor". This was, to my memory, the first I had heard of them. Apparently, I am part of the "Mapilio Volunteer Community" according to a message I received at about the same time.

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

2023-05-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/04/2023 16:57, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by ajt1...@gmail.com: More generally, anyone with half a brain consuming OSM shop data (or actually, _any_ external data from _anywhere_) will look at the values contained in it***. And that is exactly

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

2023-04-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/04/2023 22:50, Allan Mustard wrote: Rather than criticize the CWG for using Google because certain people are restricted by their governments from using Google services, it would be more useful to suggest alternatives that might work in those countries. Mikel already mentioned that

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

2023-04-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/04/2023 15:47, Sören Reinecke wrote: So please stop complaining about when someone does not share your ideologic attitude. And wanting to use OSS only is a ideology. In this case, it's not just my view, it's the view of the OSMF board:

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

2023-04-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/04/2023 14:57, Marc_marc wrote: part of the active opendata community does not wish to ally a closeddata based enterprise It's actually worse than that. OpenStreetMap has mappers all around the world.  Some of those places don't have the virtually unrestricted Internet access that

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

2023-04-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/04/2023 12:46, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: when you search for tea shop and it was marked as shop=herbata ("herbata" is Polish for tea) then even a well written search tool will fail to reliably find it. Where something is an _absolute direct equivalent_ (but in another

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

2023-04-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/04/2023 08:38, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Wiki should not be mindlessly obeyed but it at least tends to be right. [citation needed] The OSM wiki tends to be many things, among those "somewhat helpful" and "usually edited in good faith"; but "tends to be right" is very much a

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

2023-04-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/04/2023 12:17, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: It helps because maintaining lists of many many many rarely used meaningless values in every single QA tool and validator and tool doing this is annoying at best. For the avoidance of doubt we are NOT talking about meaningless values

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

2023-04-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/04/2023 19:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: For start I want to propose to people to review shop tags in their area with undocumented shop values or ones documented as problematic. See http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1u2o Reviewing "odd" tags before tagfiddling them away seems to me a

Re: [OSM-talk] Help with reverting a changeset (somebody deleted weeks and weeks of work)

2023-04-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/04/2023 12:55, Bjoern Hassler wrote: Hello everybody! I hope you're having a good weekend. I'm looking for help with reverting a changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/54488428?way_page=6#map=14/51.5273/-0.1224. (Kings Cross, London) The changeset is labeled "Large

Re: [OSM-talk] wheelmap.org batch updates

2023-04-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/04/2023 13:13, Marc_marc wrote: Le 07.04.23 à 12:26, a...@onthewings.net a écrit : it would be great if board/DWG can communicate this with wheelmap.org. I don't think I can represent osm. you don't need to represent the community to make a suggestion and I even think that the

Re: [Talk-se] Import av laddstationer

2023-03-20 Thread Andy Townsend
Se också https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/charging-stations-sites-or-individual-chargers/96810 ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se

Re: [talk-au] [Impersonated Sender] Re: Map feedback - Australia

2023-02-17 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/02/2023 11:33, Salim Baidoun wrote: I conducted my due diligence and came back with a solid answer to answer your question, Yes, the user will have agreed to OSM's Contributor Terms. Great, thanks! ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Map feedback - Australia

2023-02-13 Thread Andy Townsend
For the avoidance of doubt - will the user have agreed to OSM's Contributor Terms? https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms Best Regards, Andy On 13/02/2023 17:48, Salim Baidoun wrote: Hello Australia Community, In TomTom's endeavor to improve OSM, we plan to conduct

Re: [OSM-talk] Dubious websites added to tourist attractions?

2023-02-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/02/2023 17:08, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: Looks like most of these have been cleaned up but there's a couple left: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1qU8 Some of the links are to other websites, e.g. the fishing area https://osm.mapki.com/history/way/148514524 . It might well just be a

Re: [OSM-talk] Extending the 'geo:' uri scheme: Adding parameter 'osmid'

2023-01-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/01/2023 20:17, Snusmumriken wrote: On Mon, 2023-01-09 at 08:21 -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: You seem unwilling to understand that defining a way to refer to ids will cause social pressure not to change ids, Is there actually evidence that would corroborate this claim? There have

Re: [OSM-talk] Extending the 'geo:' uri scheme: Adding parameter 'osmid'

2023-01-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/01/2023 20:44, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: way/node/relation ids in OSM are unstable, not promised to be stable and anything relying on their stability can break at any point Unfortunately, that sort of "black and white" answer doesn't really answer the question of whether it's

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/11/2022 13:57, Maarten Deen wrote: What the user wielding the QA tool does with that is his choice. Indeed, but as we've seen in lots of places users sometimes blindly follow "suggestions" without engaging their brains. As an example, Osmose contains very clear information that users

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

2022-11-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/11/2022 13:51, Andy Mabbett wrote: I'm not in the least precious about how it is tagged, so long as the fact that a structure still bridges the river, but is impassable to pedestrians, is recorded. (and earlier) If I knew how to revert the edit I would do so; I do not. Can someone do

Re: [OSM-talk] I need your help please

2022-09-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/09/2022 10:38, Fakhreddine Azzouni wrote: Good afternoon, I started using OSM for a tourism project. The idea is make a tour's road map with places from OSM. But some places are not on the map so I added them yesterday. I am using a WordPress Plugin to get locations From OSM.

Re: [talk-au] Adding river crossings to Guidelines "road quality / 4wd-only"?

2022-08-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 8/10/22 03:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Cleared a note to add a ford / river-crossing to a road in Cape York: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1025490234, & added both a "ford" node, & also changed the actual river crossing to a track with 4wd only & similar tags. Wondering if we

Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org

2022-05-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote: How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't used Discource enough to picture how it works. If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed all messages and can reply to them by email too.  What you

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 178, Issue 55

2022-04-30 Thread Andy Townsend (ajt1...@gmail.com)
I suspect that no-one is taking the piss - depending on the mail client "reply all" will very often go to the sender cc the list. Perhaps a bit more discussion about what problems have been created might have helped (and "source=knowledge") isn't a great description of why something was changed,

[talk-au] Garmin (was Re: Wiki Clean Up Progress Update)

2022-04-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/04/2022 11:25, Bob Cameron wrote: Good stuff Dian! I don't know how widespread the problem is, but Garmin GPS navigation devices see no road surface tag as sealed. This can create routing stress for the driver and possibly safety issues. Might be worth mentioning that it's far better

Re: [talk-ph] "VJMEJ Planned" and "Open Paint Maps"

2022-04-16 Thread Andy Townsend
(especially, changeset comments from other mappers) I'm sure that someone from the DWG will pick it up. Best Regards, Andy Townsend, from the Data Working Group *1 visible at the time of writing.  Some of their diary entries have already been hidden. *2 t

Re: [talk-au] Tagging bicycle on footpath laws Was: Re: HighRouleur edits

2022-04-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/04/2022 06:31, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 14:53, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 12:50, Andrew Harvey wrote: I think this is getting too much into mapping regulations, we could just have no bicycle tag and leave it to data

Re: [talk-au] Map Note Flood

2022-04-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/04/2022 09:41, Phil Wyatt wrote: Hi Andy, I am aware of the volunteers doing this great work. My concern was that I had not received a confirmation that the email had been received and a ticket created. This has happened once before and I was led to believe the ticket creation to be

Re: [talk-au] Map Note Flood

2022-04-04 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello, Andy from OSM's Data Working Group here. > Is there any other way to alert the Data working group? With respect, which part of "Please understand that our working group consists of volunteers only who do this job in their spare time. All incoming messages are read but processing them

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Change reversal

2022-02-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/02/2022 12:28, Andy Townsend wrote: The revert was clean, but can you check that it looks OK?  JOSM's validator reckons that https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9217096278/history is a duplicate node, and https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12175058/history is no longer a valid

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Change reversal

2022-02-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/02/2022 12:04, Ryan Underwood wrote: Just noticed somebody changed my newer edits to the A34 Perry Barr junction, essentially reverting it to the way it was before the roadworks even started!!  The editor has removed the right turn lane into the One Stop from the Walsall Road, has made

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/02/2022 11:36, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote: On 2/2/22 21:45, Phil Wyatt wrote: Is there somewhere to view those defaults for Tasmania? I assume its not usually editable by mappers? See https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2369652 Specifically the tag:

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of walking tracks/paths

2022-01-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/01/2022 22:43, David Wales via Talk-au wrote: 2. Practically invisible on the ground, except for bits of red tape hanging from tree branches every 50-100 metres! Every 50-100 meters?  Luxury! :) My recollection is that the signage on the bits of the Bibbulmun Track near Denmark in WA

Re: [talk-ph] "Open Paint Maps"

2022-01-21 Thread Andy Townsend
s his edits. He's now blocked, but he's not going to stop until he gets a longer block. On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:39 PM Jherome Miguel wrote: -- Forwarded message - From: *Jherome Miguel* Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] "Open Pai

Re: [talk-ph] "Open Paint Maps"

2022-01-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/01/2022 06:41, Jherome Miguel wrote: Anyone monitoring this new user, "Open Paint Maps"? This one's suspicious, not only for its username that is obviously deceptively similar to the OSM name, but this is also messing with roads in various places. Just undid or fix some of this one's

Re: [talk-au] Stealth import of beach names?

2021-12-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/12/2021 10:35, Adam Horan wrote: In the last 2 weeks a handful of users have added or edited 182 beaches in Victoria. Each changeset contains 1 beach, there's a closed way for the beach and there's a name. The changeset will reference Bing or Esri World Imagery (Clarity) Beta as the

Re: [talk-au] Unconnected ways

2021-11-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/11/2021 22:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I tried putting a path along the beach, but routing still walks up to the nearest road, along that, then back down onto the beach at the other end? What actually is it that you're referring to when you say "routing" above? Different routers

Re: [talk-au] No attribution on map

2021-10-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/10/2021 00:50, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Spotted this site a couple of days ago: https://easypark.com.au/parking/en_au/, that certainly appears to be using OSM with no attribution. Sent them an email, but no response as yet. On the site that they say they also operate in NZ & 15

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

2021-10-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/10/2021 22:52, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: In that case, the definitions in iD probably need to be updated / changed, as when you're mapping any form of highway=*, the "Allowed Access" options & explanations include designated: "Access allowed according to signs or specific local laws".

Re: [talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

2021-10-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/10/2021 04:00, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I would think it should be bicycle=designated, which means that signage & local laws would then apply? (on the very narrow question of what "bicycle=designated" means in OSM) "=designated" is a somewhat confusingly named tag - it sounds like

Re: [talk-au] Suspicious amount of removed bicycle tags

2021-09-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/09/2021 14:05, Adam Horan wrote: I think I've tried to contact this user before. Yes you did: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=11210886 For info, to see who you've commented on the changesets of, go to "My Edits", click on a changeset, click on "changeset

Re: [talk-au] Friend requests from 'Porn Bots'

2021-09-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/09/2021 12:44, Matthew Davalle wrote: Having some weird friend requests coming through after submitting changesets to OSM, one I account was deleted however the second account still exists That's normal - it just means that someone has reported it and it has already been deleted.

Re: [talk-au] [EXTERNAL] Re: Low quality road classification contributions in SA via Microsoft Open Maps Team - contact point?

2021-08-29 Thread Andy Townsend
At the risk of repeating what might have been said earlier, I'd suggest commenting on one or more of the problem changesets, explaining why "residential" (or whatever) isn't a good fit. If the users concerned don't reply then we (the DWG) can try and draw their attention to the comments

Re: [talk-au] Strange friend request?

2021-08-29 Thread Andy Townsend
I've had a few of these as well (different names to the ones mentioned). In the one example that I got to before the user was deleted, the profile had a link that claimed to be to a porn site. If anyone sees any of these, the best thing to do is to click the "report user" button in the user

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Road merge problems in South Africa

2021-06-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/05/2021 20:35, Andy Townsend wrote: Hello, Just to let everyone know, in the absence of any other options, I'll be reverting these in the next day or so. For completeness there are two user accounts - one for the changeset I mentioned below and also one I got in touch via https

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Road merge problems in South Africa

2021-05-30 Thread Andy Townsend
currently for preserving data integrity. Regards On Sat, 15 May 2021 at 18:37, Andy Townsend <mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, Andy from OpenStreetMap's Data Working Group here. A relatively new mapper has merged a number of roads together which has caused a few

Re: [talk-au] Australian maps for Garmin devices

2021-04-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/05/2021 00:31, Ian Steer wrote: Ian, where did you go to learn what to do with this data ? (eg a nice little website somewhere ??) Ian (not Ian, obviously but) I wrote https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/diary/38613 a while back to try and explain the basics to someone in

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of historic 'stink pipes'

2020-12-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/12/2020 08:39, Edward Bainton wrote: Morning all My local civic society is collecting the location of 'stink pipes', Victorian sewer ventilation shafts in cast iron. Pics here: https://twitter.com/TobyWoody/status/1339679166371926017/photo/1

Re: [Talk-GB] Removing all stiles from bridleways

2020-12-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/12/2020 20:57, Richard Fairhurst wrote: A barrier=stile on a long-established UK bridleway is 99.9% a mapping error. Bridleways are open to horses and bikes, and so stiles are forbidden - PRoW officers are pretty hot on this. That may be the case in the comfy Cotswolds but I'm not sure

Re: [Talk-GB] "GPS trace" tracking county boundary

2020-12-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/12/2020 19:21, Edward Bainton wrote: Glad I'm not going mad. Does it say anything useful or interesting that the "GPS trace" is a few metres away from the boundary as marked on the map? (Sorry if this has been answered recently: there was extensive discussion on alignment not long ago,

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/12/2020 11:30, ael via Talk-GB wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:44:24AM +, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: IMHO, if it leads on to another road, track, etc. it is not a "driveway", but could be a track, a bridleway, a service road, or something else. FWIIW, I would very definitely

[Talk-GB] map styles on osm.org; other sites (was: Re: driveway-becomes-track)

2020-12-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/12/2020 11:16, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: Note that someone who wants to show their map style at OSM website can be included, though they must sponsor hosting See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tile_layers/Guidelines_for_new_tile_layers As far as I know, the

[Talk-GB] Map styles and rendering various things (was: Re: driveway-becomes-track)

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 21:11, Martin Wynne wrote: On 12/12/2020 17:37, Andy Townsend wrote: That allows maps such as https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=16=52.28208=-2.42987 to display it as a public bridleway (in blue) Hi Andy, That's a great map! It seems you have already done

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 19:47, Nick wrote: Hi Andy Yes I understand the tag that has been used (i.e. designation) although I was suggesting the tag "Bridleway", the question that Martin posed was that "at zoom level 15, driveways are not shown", so the work around in this case might be to make a way

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 13:59, Nick wrote: I had to check the Council GIS - so the designation is Bridleway. Because of the complexity, if this was tagged something like 'Bridleway=Yes' and get that displayed on maps of footpaths, surely that would solve the problem? Hi Nick, Yes that is pretty

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 14:30, Martin Wynne wrote: On 12/12/2020 13:15, Andy Townsend wrote: Ultimately, if "something needs doing", "someone" will need to do it. Perhaps that someone is you? Hi Andy, Yes that someone could be me. I have a server (located in Columbus, Ohio)

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/12/2020 12:34, Martin Wynne wrote: A common situation is that a service road/driveway continues as a track beyond the initial residential destination. This is common on farms. On the standard map at zoom level 15, driveways are not shown. But tracks and footpaths are. This seems

Re: [Talk-GB] Idea - OSMUK walkers' map application -- -& server

2020-12-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/12/2020 09:59, Nick Whitelegg via Talk-GB wrote: In the early stages I think we could run it on cheap hosting hardware, like most projects in the OSM ecosystem. I suspect for a while usage would be light and limited to those in the OSM community. I use Hetzner for my hosting

Re: [Talk-GB] Is "GB revert request log" wiki page something that should be recommended?

2020-12-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/12/2020 10:17, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote: It is about https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GB_revert_request_log that appears to be abandoned. I believe that that was set up to deal with a particular "overenthusiastic

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/12/2020 12:24, Thomas Jarvis wrote: (snipped) I've put this to the Data Working Group, and they have suggested that I ask the community here to see what the consensus is. I don't mind what the outcome is, however I am not satisfied with the sole reason being because it renders

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

2020-12-09 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi Céline, hi all. Like you, I'm just another participant in this list*.  However, perhaps it would be helpful to refer the existing etiquette guidelines adopted by the OSMF ages ago: https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Etiquette .  It's clear that Frederik's original post didn't abide by all

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] AI mapping roads released in IE

2020-12-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/12/2020 17:34, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-ie wrote: Hi, I never received a response about the question below.. Can I get a confirmation on the correct mailing address to use when proposing a posting to the talklist? No idea what happened, but that mail never made it

Re: [Talk-GB] electric fences

2020-11-23 Thread Andy Townsend
To add a similar question about other common electric fence crossings - what do people normally do with "the bit of electric fence on a hook" (with an insulator that allows you to unhook it, let people through, and hook it up again) and "an electric fence with no crossing at all".

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-11-22 Thread Andy Townsend
Following a lack of answers to questions at http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=5229644 (in lots of cases they've responded, but have not actually answered the question) with a DWG hat on I've sent them a message that they have to read before continuing to map at

Re: [Talk-GB] FWD: Revert the "Felixstowe to Nuneaton" relation

2020-11-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/11/2020 15:56, ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7521925 That is the relation I am talking about. An edit made by user nplath seems to have made this relation into a clone of the "Ipswich To Cambridge-Ely" relation. You can tell

Re: [OSM-talk] Bad coastline edits in Sweden

2020-11-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/11/2020 10:42, Andre Hinrichs via talk wrote: Hi! Difficult to find, but here are the changesets where i left comments: 93965382 94097597 94134166 And the links to them: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93965382 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/94097597

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/11/2020 13:20, Michał Brzozowski wrote: - the e-mail notifications about changeset comments do not have either a definitive "call to action" nor any explanation what to do (or a link to Wiki page with such) They don't, unless the person writing the changeset comment puts that

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/11/2020 09:55, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Is it just me or are Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors unaware of Openstreetmap messages ? Does anyone here have seen Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors answer to Openstreetmap messages ? They'll get an email just like every other email user. 

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-11-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/11/2020 10:55, Jon Pennycook wrote: Returning to this subject, but not necessarily at roundabouts - turn restrictions are still being added even where they don't exist (apparently) - e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93759133

Re: [Talk-GB] Multi-lingual tagging in Wales

2020-10-31 Thread Andy Townsend
On 31/10/2020 18:19, Jez Nicholson wrote: I like it. + "in the event of dispute... the default language is English."? .although I'm not sure how to define dispute'. On Sat, 31 Oct 2020, 11:07 Ben Proctor, > wrote: (snipped) "In the event of a dispute

Re: [OSM-talk] SPAM notes in Brazil again

2020-10-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/10/2020 23:50, Erick de Oliveira Leal wrote: Some time ago I reported that several anonymous SPAM notes were being created in Brazil, through the "Report" option available in the note. Someone told me it was not SPAM, so I showed the amount of notes in sequence, so they blocked the IP of

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

2020-10-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/10/2020 04:49, Brendan Barnes wrote: Back to my original post which I was seeking advice on, I was requesting clarity of mapping an official hiking route, which a small section of it happens to not follow a defined track/path and a compass bearing is required. The hiking route is

Re: [Talk-GB] Multi-lingual tagging in Wales

2020-10-16 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi Gruff, hi Ben, On 16/10/2020 14:08, Gruff Owen wrote: The ability to include an :en or :cy tag name field is really helpful for this but it's unfortunate that ultimately we have to choose a single name tag for each place name - giving the impression that one language has precedence over

Re: [Talk-es] Que hay de las AGUAS TERRITORIALES ESPAÑOLAS de CEUTA y MELILLA?

2020-10-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/10/2020 11:20, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo wrote: El tema del Sáhara Occidental es similar, algún editor o editores decidió/decidieron unilateralmente que se los anexionaba a Marruecos y ahí sigue. Creo que hay documentos de las Naciones Unidas que reconocen que ese territorio no es marroquí.

Re: [OSM-talk] Can you recommend good introduction to JOSM for 100% osm newbie?

2020-10-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/10/2020 08:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 5. Oct 2020, at 00:58, Michael Booth wrote: Not sure I'd recommend JOSM for a 100% OSM newbie unless there was a specific reason or feature required when editing. I would, because they will have to learn from scratch

[Talk-GB] Blocked / overgrown / inaccessible footpaths and bridleways

2020-09-29 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello, How do people normally map things like "I know there is a public footpath that goes through here but it is currently inaccessible"? A taginfo search finds a few candidates: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=overgrown#values

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/09/2020 16:28, Rodrigo Díez Villamuera wrote: I am importing a subset of nodes from UK (those tagged with amenity:pub) for a pet project. Firstly - welcome! When analysing the data I realised that some of these nodes contain a website: tag that does not contain an appropriate URL

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/09/2020 10:25, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Anyone know if there's a way to at least use a UK based server or to conveniently ping multiple websites directly? In this case I don't see how that helps - it wouldn't detect domain parking pages, which is usually where a domain goes after

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging an abandoned path?

2020-09-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/09/2020 17:43, Dave F via talk wrote: Nick's description is "overgrown, unclear, prone to flooding" These are all subjective interpretations. There are many official PROW's in those conditions. (for the benefit of people outside of England and Wales a "public right of way" is a special

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging an abandoned path?

2020-09-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/09/2020 16:04, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hi, Wondering if there was a consensus on tagging an abandoned, no longer very usable path (e.g. a path which has become overgrown or is unclear and prone to flooding in wetter periods). Something like "path=abandoned"? My 2p: Perhaps use

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/09/2020 00:00, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:56 PM Andy Townsend <mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com>> wrote: Paul Jo

Re: [Talk-us] While we're fixing things in iterations

2020-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/2020 23:01, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 4:37 PM stevea > wrote: Paul Johnson mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>> wrote: > 2. Tagging route information on ways.  It's about a decade too long at this point for ref=* on a way

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Changeset Comments Copyright

2020-09-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/09/2020 08:49, GITNE wrote: Unfortunately, no. I do not use Slack. So, I cannot provide a specific link or something. What I know is that @SomeoneElse reported that Slack has an automated feed which pulls changesets comments from OSM and republishes them on one of their channels. For

[OSM-talk-ie] Townlands in Monaghan

2020-09-13 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello - Andy from the DWG here. A recent emailer has written (of townlands.ie/monaghan): "This page states that there are 4 Baronies in Monaghan.  There are actually 5 Baronies in Monaghan, Farney is missing from the list. Barony Farney can be found on the website, but not on this page". I

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-09-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/09/2020 15:17, Mike Thompson wrote: I will thank Ron for the change and try to start a dialog with our DWG about AllTrails asking their users to contact the DWG directly with map errors. Yes - that'd be great. The wider issues in addition to their support process are that (1) lots

Re: [Talk-GB] Pedestrian priority and highway=cycleway

2020-09-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/09/2020 10:58, Gareth L wrote: I think the permissive tag is due to it being yet another perceived public space which is actually private, so there’s no public right of way. Would access=permissive or access:bicycle=permissive be sensible? Or is that also mangling tagging conventions. I

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
> How/where was the notes addition proposed and implemented? If I remember correctly, it was done as a "Google Summer of Code" project - effectively a sponsorship deal.  However, that project requires a clone of the OSM website, which is a much harder job than merely doing something with OSM

[OSM-talk] Default access rights (was: Re: Use of OSM data without attribution)

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2020 08:56, Simon Poole wrote: To add to what Andy has already said, complaints about people using private paths etc are relatively common, not a large number in absolute terms, but there tend to be a couple each month which either land with the DWG, or LWG, or naturally with the local

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2020 10:32, Andrew Harvey wrote: Nothing is stopping such a system being built at the moment as a 3rd party service, just needs someone motivated enough to build and support it. Yes - exactly that. Until such time as someone writes a "mailing list post to software translator"*

[OSM-talk] Let's think about how we use mailing lists (was: Re: Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !))

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2020 09:12, pangoSE wrote: Here is yet another example of bad data in our database: (to "pangoSE", via the list): Sometimes it helps to think about how we react to things in the spur of the moment.  Martijn's anecdote was about something that he mapped 9 years ago that was _correct

Re: [Talk-us] VANDALISM !

2020-08-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/08/2020 02:35, Clay Smalley wrote: For those who aren't following, the DWG recently decided on a two-day ban for the person who posted this, for the exact behavior they're exhibiting right now: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3850 Indeed, and it wasn't done lightly - only

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2020 14:43, Mike Thompson wrote: From Ron's quick and positive response to the attribution issue I am guessing he might be open to having a discussion about these other issues. Once the attribution issue is actually fixed, should I send him a note along those lines? Would you (Andy)

Re: [Talk-GB] Eat out to help out data

2020-08-20 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/08/2020 09:38, Ken Kilfedder wrote: What data are available in the EOHO set that we don't get from the FHRS? Perhaps "opening_hours:covid19=open"? Even that's a bit tricky - if an establishment is registered with the scheme I guess it doesn't guarantee that it is _currently_ open.

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/08/2020 22:44, Clifford Snow wrote: ...  Instead of suggesting their users edit OSM, they instead instruct them to email d...@openstreetmap.org , Indeed, and by the time they get to us they are usually "rabbits of negative euphoria"* because of the less

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