Re: [Gendergap] Proposal: Forking gendergap: Main list for women and transgender, sublist for male supporters

On 3/15/11 9:34 AM, Nicole Willson wrote: Lastly, I had a question about Fred's statement about rules. If following rules isn't that important in the beginning, how come I have only gotten feedback once about what I've done wrong with date formatting and never gotten a message about what

Re: [Gendergap] How to use Wiki videos

doing spelling corrections). I think that people would be a lot less intimidated if they knew they could just paste in an ISBN number and click a button and the citation is automatically created for them. (I remember my own amazement at learning this.) Ryan Kaldari On 3/15/11 4:04 PM, Carissa

[Gendergap] Resigning as moderator

Steven asked me a while back to help moderate this list. Unfortunately, I just haven't had time to keep up with the volume of discussion here, so I don't feel like I'm doing a very effective job of keeping the discussions on track. Rather than keep up the pretense, I think it would be better

Re: [Gendergap] What to do about sexism when we see it on WP?

The behavior you describe is all too common on Wikipedia (and even worse on Commons). I could quote some much more blatant examples than the one you cite, but I'll spare everyone the groans. I think the problem is that most guys do not understand that creating an unwanted sexualized

Re: [Gendergap] A: a way to encourage new female editors

questions there, it would be greatly appreciated! Now that the floodgates have opened, I'm not sure we can keep up with them all! Ryan Kaldari On 3/29/11 10:35 AM, Amy Roth wrote: hi All, The Public Policy Initiative is proud to support an all women class this term. Georgetown University's Professor

Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

antimisandry.com. Or better yet, file a DMCA counter-notice to restore the links in the Texas Instruments signing key controversy article. For some reason people don't seem as concerned about the real incidents of censorship on our projects. Ryan Kaldari On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Aaron Adrignola

Re: [Gendergap] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

I'm sure all the persecuted fans of big tits will appreciate your efforts. Ryan Kaldari On 5/26/11 5:01 PM, Béria Lima wrote: carol, en.wiki aproved that, Commons didn't. You can't use a rule from one wiki in another. IF - and that is a BIG if, if commons community approve such kind

Re: [Gendergap] Why don't people edit wikipedia? Small survey results provide some insights.

%93systemizing_theory Ryan Kaldari On 7/10/11 9:32 AM, Nepenthe wrote: To be frank, a sample this small really doesn't support much of anything. If the results had been more extreme, perhaps they would be meaningful, but these data are not sufficient to reject any hypothesis besides men and women have totally

Re: [Gendergap] Oversight request

the Femininity and Patriarchy articles, I can vouch for the 1950s viewpoint that tends to dominate gender-related articles on Wikipedia. Ryan Kaldari On 8/31/11 10:57 AM, Amy Senger wrote: Hi All - I've just posted the 2nd in a 3-piece blog series on diversity in Wikipedia: http://1x57.com/2011

Re: [Gendergap] fyi: Gender Bias in Wikipedia and Britannica

of gender bias (as reflected by the WikiSym study). Do we really know that women are significantly more likely to write about women than men are? If so, how much more likely? Ryan Kaldari On 9/2/11 6:54 AM, Joseph Reagle wrote: http://reagle.org/joseph/blog/social/wikipedia/gender-bias-in-wp-eb

Re: [Gendergap] Pregnancy article lead-image RFC

I have to say that viewing pregnancy as a medical article seems to be a rather male point of view :) I also find it telling that maternity clothing isn't even mentioned in the article (but I guess that makes sense if pregnant women don't wear clothes). Ryan Kaldari On 9/6/11 12:04 AM, Arnaud

[Gendergap] Consent for photographs on Commons

and throw it into the water. It'll be interesting to see how it is received. Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Wikiquotes

countries. Ryan Kaldari On 9/15/11 6:17 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote: Yes! I have never edited or contributed anything to wikiquote. I have contributed to Wikisource, and I'm starting to think I'm the only woman who ever has, even though it was two documents. I don't even think there is much

Re: [Gendergap] A translation request

It looks like we have biographies for slightly less than half of these people on the English Wikipedia. I would hazard that not all of them are actually notable per our guidelines, but I'm sure we're missing a lot that are. Ryan Kaldari On 9/19/11 2:12 PM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen wrote: I

Re: [Gendergap] 13 year old joins WP Pornography?

What are some questions we could ask the user that only a real 13 year old would know? Actually, I have a better idea, let's ask him Who founded Wikipedia? :) Ryan Kaldari On 9/23/11 1:04 PM, Michael J. Lowrey wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Sarah Stierchsarah.stie...@gmail.com

Re: [Gendergap] Nudity vs Islam in Western Europe

that of Pakistan. The effect is even more pronounced if you compare rural areas to urban areas rather than country to country. Ryan Kaldari On 9/23/11 1:56 AM, Arnaud HERVE wrote: Ok I will be a bit long here. On 23/09/2011 01:07, Emily Monroe wrote: Personally, I really don't understand why

Re: [Gendergap] Sue's new blog

Can I nominate Sue for the Executive Director's Barnstar? :) Kaldari On 9/29/11 4:06 PM, Amory wrote: I normally hate +1s, but I would like to echo this. Really exceptionally well crafted, and even for people following it's a very good writeup. Thank you, Sue. ~A On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at

Re: [Gendergap] Sue's new blog

Would you like to elaborate? Ryan Kaldari On 9/29/11 4:35 PM, Béria Lima wrote: I think it works both ways: There you might get stomped on by people who disagree with the lies Sue told in the post, and here I will be stomp up for even mentioned that she did lied in that blog post. Safe

[Gendergap] vulgar jokes and sexualized environments on Wikipedia

to the gender gap (unlike my other recent posts), and would like to hear other people's opinions. I've also started a discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civility#Vulgar_jokes for broader input. Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list

Re: [Gendergap] vulgar jokes and sexualized environments on Wikipedia

vaginas smelling like fish. Ryan Kaldari On 9/30/11 3:19 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: Twice recently I have been reverted for removing vulgar jokes from article talk pages on the English Wikipedia - most recently for removing a joke who's punchline was A woman's anus after she was sodomized

Re: [Gendergap] Looking for success stories of article improvement

of editorial judgment on en.wiki isn't actually for an article, but for the main page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Picture_of_the_day/Unused Ryan Kaldari On 10/3/11 5:24 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: Hi folks, I'm wondering if anyone here has examples of articles that contain potentially

Re: [Gendergap] Oh, painters

free to go crazy cleaning them up or adding to them. The Painters gallery for example has only been touched by 2 editors in its entire 5-edit history. Ryan Kaldari On 10/7/11 2:39 PM, Risker wrote: On 7 October 2011 17:22, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com mailto:sarah.stie...@gmail.com

Re: [Gendergap] washington dc

As a member of the DC Chapter who does not live in DC, I would suggest allowing proxy voting to encourage broader participation. Ryan Kaldari On 10/10/11 6:39 AM, Tiffany Smith wrote: Hi all, I'm on the DC Chapter Board with Katie. Thanks for giving us an opportunity to discuss

Re: [Gendergap] User blocked for sexist comment, many disagree - it wasn't sexist.

, the block was a knee-jerk reaction as well. Bad behavior all around, in my opinion. Ryan Kaldari 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Science/2010_January_21#Orgasm On 10/12/11 7:10 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: I never said that I agreed or disagreed with the block. I

Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches

One easy way to fix all of these searches is to create Gallery pages for these terms. If a gallery page for cucumber existed, all searches for cucumber would go immediately to that gallery page rather than pulling up random images. Ryan Kaldari On 10/12/11 3:49 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote

Re: [Gendergap] No sources - argh!!

Does Urubamba have a library? If they do, I would check there first and ask the librarian if they have any books on local history/culture. If not, you may want to check out http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Oral_citations Ryan Kaldari On 10/24/11 9:03 PM, Erin O'Rourke wrote: Hey all, I'm

Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

trolls and trouble-makers. I imagine this is one of the reasons that they have such a vibrant community with a healthy gender balance (according to my friend). Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Gendergap] the state of civility on en.wiki

doesn't want to be subjected to further harassment. The problem with ArbCom currently is that you have to have a very tough skin to go through the process, and in many cases it just makes things worse in the short term (which can last for months). Ryan Kaldari On 10/27/11 11:50 PM, Gillian

[Gendergap] study about gendered names and IRC

and not get sexually harassed, you can always join #wikimedia-gendergap! Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Research into causes of the gender gap?

with dolls? Almost a quarter of Wikipedia contributors also happen to contribute to open source software [citation needed] :) Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Research into causes of the gender gap?

Looks like your right. This is a pretty amazing statistic. If 23% of our editors are open source programmers, I can't believe we don't have more volunteer MediaWiki developers. I guess that's another gap we need to work on fixing. Ryan Kaldari On 12/17/11 6:13 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote

Re: [Gendergap] He/she vs. she/he

Yes, the traditional usage has been predominantly masculine, but in modern usage, they is the dominant form. See my reply at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Gender-neutral_language#She_before_he.3F Ryan Kaldari On 12/28/11 4:50 PM, Theo10011 wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 6:06 AM

Re: [Gendergap] Facebook Group re pornography on Wikipedia

I'm not familiar with the discussion you are referring to, but I'm 100% sure Jimmy would never say that as it is completely antithetical to his position on Wikipedia editing. Do you happen to remember where you read that? Ryan Kaldari On 2/1/12 11:53 PM, Caroline Becker wrote: Yeah

Re: [Gendergap] Facebook Group re pornography on Wikipedia

Yeah, I'm a little dense sometimes :) I promise if you put a ;) at the end of your post, though, I won't reply to your sarcasm with shocked indignation. Ryan Kaldari On 2/3/12 11:52 AM, emijrp wrote: 2012/2/2 Caroline Becker carobecke...@gmail.com mailto:carobecke...@gmail.com

Re: [Gendergap] Giving Women the Access Code

. Compare with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_science or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_engineering (which was recently expanded). Ryan Kaldari On 4/3/12 7:31 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote: Nice article, thanks for sharing Lennart! She was consistently told by teachers in adolescence

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

Fun fact: Female ejaculation is the most viewed Wikipedia article related in any way to feminism (at least since WikiProject Feminism started keeping stats). It's 3 times as popular as the next article on the list, Abortion. Ryan Kaldari On 4/27/12 2:52 PM, Laura Hale wrote: http

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

are finished photographing your all-male cumshots, maybe you could find some nice nude male art to nominate at Featured Picture Candidates. Too bad Robert Mapplethorpe is still copyrighted. Ryan Kaldari On 4/28/12 12:17 AM, Paolo Massa wrote: If you are curious about the images used in the same article

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

That's a good point. Even here in San Francisco it's much easier to find female nudity in art and advertising than male nudity. I just wish people would stick to commenting on the art instead of the woman's body. Ryan Kaldari On 5/2/12 12:40 AM, Caroline Becker wrote: The problem is, we live

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water Ryan Kaldari On 5/2/12 2:20 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: Advertising not sexist. Really. Well I'd be interested to hear rational arguments that it is... I've always

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

the number of covers with female nudity and male nudity. I'll bet you a wiki-beer it's greater than 2 to 1. Judging by the last time I was in Paris, I would guess 10 to 1. Ryan Kaldari On 5/2/12 2:28 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: On 2 May 2012 22:22, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com mailto:petefors

Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia

On 5/2/12 2:38 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: On 2 May 2012 22:36, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org mailto:rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Perfect opportunity to share one of my favorite blog memes: http://thehairpin.com/2011/11/women-struggling-to-drink-water Seriously though

Re: [Gendergap] civility/behavioral standards

the list, perhaps she would be interested in helping to moderate again? Ryan Kaldari On 5/6/12 2:16 PM, Laura Hale wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com mailto:kgor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all - Given this, I'm going to change how the moderation

Re: [Gendergap] Asking Reddit's /r/asktransgender about Wikipedia

evidence. I would love to hear other people's impressions. Ryan Kaldari On 5/9/12 12:57 PM, Tom Morris wrote: Earlier today, I posted a thread on Reddit's AskTransgender group asking for feedback on how Wikipedia handles transgender issues, specifically BLP and pronoun issues. http

Re: [Gendergap] Article for deletion Fanny Imlay

%29#Pornographic_actors_and_models Ryan Kaldari On 5/15/12 8:50 AM, Christine Meyer wrote: I thought that I'd bring an AfD discussion to the attention of this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Fanny_Imlay#Fanny_Imlay It really is ridiculous that this discussion

Re: [Gendergap] Larry Sanger's blog post: Should there be a Wikipedia boycott over the lack of an image filter?

The best way to make sure an image filter is never implemented on Wikipedia is to have Larry Sanger endorse it :P Ryan Kaldari On 5/30/12 9:01 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: From Larry Sanger's blog: ---o0o--- I want to start a conversation. [...Larry says, in his blog] I. Problem? What problem

Re: [Gendergap] gendergap research

of theories, but I'd love to see more research into this. Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Holly Graf

a tendency to swear at people), but it shouldn't constitute the major focus of her biography. Ryan Kaldari On 6/18/12 1:50 PM, Russavia wrote: Is that an edit of the article, or a whitewashing of the article? It turns out that she is most notable for the relief of command, and the blanket removal

Re: [Gendergap] Surplus women and World War I

Nice work! Looking forward to seeing it on the Main Page. Ryan Kaldari On 6/20/12 12:48 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: (just to note; it's in my userspace - I got the singled out book the other day, and hopefully we can finish the article in the next day or so) Tom On 20 June 2012 20:22, Chris

Re: [Gendergap] Surplus women and World War I

This is probably getting off topic, but the main articles on this subject on en.wiki would probably be sex-selective abortion and gendercide. Ryan Kaldari On 6/20/12 2:37 PM, Carol Moore DC wrote: One comment on your draft, is that the langugage makes it a bit unclear for the average reader

Re: [Gendergap] Awareness of gender gap at Olympics

bias. Thanks for the tip. I did a couple of female athlete articles recently, but forgot to DYK them :( Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Ada Lovelace Day organised by Wikimedia UK - 19 October 2012, London

Just uploaded a new file that might be useful :) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Engraved_portrait_of_Ada_Lovelace.jpg Ryan Kaldari On 9/17/12 8:49 AM, Daria Cybulska wrote: Dear all, It's Ada Lovelace Day on 16 October and it's most suitable for Wikimedia UK to get involved. The day

[Gendergap] Civility enforcement RfC Questionnaire

, and if we don't retain significant numbers of new editors, we don't have much hope of improving the gender gap. The organizers of the RfC are hoping to attract wide participation, so please fill out the questionnaire and post your responses if you have the time. Ryan Kaldari

Re: [Gendergap] Civility enforcement RfC Questionnaire

After you finish your questionnaire, don't forget to add... [[Category:Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questions]] to the bottom. Otherwise, it will never be seen. Ryan Kaldari On 10/30/12 10:50 AM, Carol Moore DC wrote: It did take a while, but there really IS a lot

Re: [Gendergap] Excellent Women's Portal on French Portuguese Wikis, missing in the English Wiki

specific WikiProjects * Considering the small number of active female editors on Wikipedia, it might cannibalize energy from the other women-specific WikiProjects. I would love to hear other people's thoughts on this. Ryan Kaldari On 1/15/13 2:43 PM, Sylvia Ventura wrote: Hello fellow Wikipedians

Re: [Gendergap] Relevant Post “About Female Action Heroes” + Thoughts about empowering women and youth

the opposite as was sometimes implied recently. You had me up until this point. How is being sexually attractive indicative of competence and values? By this logic, only Miss/Mr. Universe winners should run for President. Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing

Re: [Gendergap] Categories hit NPR

Ryan Kaldari On 4/29/13 6:09 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: Gender gap's WikiProject Feminism's own Kaldari is interviewed here: http://www.npr.org/2013/04/29/179850435/what-s-in-a-category-women-novelists-spark-wiki-controversy and User:Qworty in a not so pleasant light here: http://www.salon.com

Re: [Gendergap] Joseph Reagle on Wikipedia's category taxonomy

the next few months may try to tackle this, but there's nothing concrete on the agenda yet. Ryan Kaldari On 4/29/13 11:15 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net mailto:danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: This system keeps

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

On 5/7/13 9:57 AM, Russavia wrote: Frankly, I don't know why this is a feminist issue; rather than an issue of common sense. Agreed. I often find it is counter-productive to frame these sort of debates in terms of feminism/sexism/etc. This immediately triggers the censorship-defense

[Gendergap] avoiding another categorygate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Feminism#Help_cleaning_up_Category:Prostitutes Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

there is no reason it should be deleted. There are several such options available with the consent template. Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

to the issue of consent. Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Don't let the man get you down

Awesome! I mean... Radical! Ryan Kaldari On 5/13/13 8:03 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: All the more reason why I love free knowledge and open sharing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Angela_Davis_enters_Royce_Hall_for_first_lecture_October_7_1969.jpg An image of Angela Davis, never published

Re: [Gendergap] Women on the list: what have you been editing lately?

Wow, that's an amazing list! I wish all artists had lists like that. Ryan Kaldari On 5/18/13 9:35 AM, Jane Darnell wrote: Good luck with the AfC backlog Sarah - it depresses me to just think about that. Here in Haarlem we are celebrating the 100 year anniversary of the Frans Hals Museum

[Gendergap] Sex Ratios in Wikidata, Wikipedias, and VIAF

An interesting blog post about sex ratio data from Wikipedia and Wikidata: http://hangingtogether.org/?p=2877 Interestingly, Wikidata only allows assigning a 'sex' to a person, not a 'gender'. Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Sex Ratios in Wikidata, Wikipedias, and VIAF

Ack, they were also defining 'transgender' as a synonym of intersex! I've removed it for now. Ryan Kaldari On 5/24/13 8:31 AM, Jodi Schneider wrote: There are lots of related discussions on the talk page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P21 Translation seems like one of the major

Re: [Gendergap] Changing the Chelsea Manning article (and how women were shouted down)

/Talk:Bradley_Manning#First_sentence Ryan Kaldari On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.netwrote: There have been similar problems at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/** Chelsea_Manning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning Obviously there have been a number of comments

Re: [Gendergap] Seeking advice on how to talk to other lists about sex-issue.

, or gender identity is (especially for historical figures), but we do know their gender, i.e. the role they assume within society. I really don't see why this is even controversial. Ryan Kaldari On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I remember seeing something about

Re: [Gendergap] Follow-on from the model FP image discussion

on Wikipedia anyway due to it being over-processed, but you're welcome to nominate it. Ryan Kaldari On Jun 11, 2014, at 3:47 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I read with interest recent discussions on the issue of having a photograph of a glamour model on the front

Re: [Gendergap] Oh man, I feel like a woman ...

Awesome article. Sorry to hear about your troubles with the peanut gallery. Ryan On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: It’s one thing to read about the sort of harsh reactions women get while editing that discourages them from

Re: [Gendergap] Addressing incivility (was: men on lists)

What if... Wikiquette assistance were resurrected as a list of volunteer admins that you could privately email about problems rather than a public noticeboard? Ryan Kaldari On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: I would assume that WMF has an ombudsman who

Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

that is actually more likely to dissuade female contributors than the images themselves. Ryan Kaldari On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: Ryan, thanks for bringing this up for discussion. I've put a lot of thought into the series of photos this comes from over

Re: [Gendergap] Noiva do Cordeiro

Well, it is the Daily Mirror, so I wouldn't take it too seriously: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mirror#mediaviewer/File:The_Daily_Mirror_-_Sorry_We_Were_Hoaxed.jpg On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Krystle krys...@wikihow.com wrote: Is this for real?

Re: [Gendergap] Huge list of Gender Gap resources

Wow, nice work Carol! On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carolmooredc/My_Sandbox_1 It took me a month to put together, including by rereading 2/3 of threads here and grabbing links. The big objection to

Re: [Gendergap] Polish Wikipedia momument has two women

Nice! Can we get one for the WMF office? ;) Kaldari On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: The final momument was unveiled and it looks like, and I was told, it has two, women in it. Yeah!

Re: [Gendergap] [arbcom-appeals-en] [Child Protection Policy]Gender Gap issues

Yeah, I don't see how this is at all relevant to the gender gap. Please moderate the sender. On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:27 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: I was going back and forth on speaking up myself, but I concur. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Nov

Re: [Gendergap] [Research] Communicating on Wikipedia while female

A very interesting study, and rather depressing. I love that I'm cited as a radical feminist though :) On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I found an interesting research done by Laura Hale about Communicating on Wikipedia while female : A

Re: [Gendergap] What's happening at ArbCom re WP:GGTF

If Carol Moore is banned from Wikipedia and Eric Corbett is not, I will be retiring from Wikipedia, as it will prove that the project is completely dysfunctional. Kaldari On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:09 AM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote: This is what is about to happen at the English

[Gendergap] a gender gap meet-up?

Does anyone else feel like it might be time for a gender gap meet-up? I love the mailing list, but it's such a limited (and formal) means of communication. I'm curious what kind of ideas and discussion would come from an in-person get together. I know several of the people on this list are in the

Re: [Gendergap] [Gendergap-I] GGTF interactions arbcom case has now closed

Rationalobserver has posted a survey related to the Gender Gap Task Force Arbitration decision on the Civility talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civility#Survey Seems pretty relevant to the recent discussions here. Kaldari On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Russia Aviation

Re: [Gendergap] [Gendergap-I] GGTF interactions arbcom case has now closed

The URL I just posted goes to the wrong survey (since there are two sections with the same header on that page). Here is a better URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civility#Arbcom.27s_position_on_expletives Kaldari On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

The rediculous thing is that none of the people defending that article were 'feminists'. They were just defending the mainstream point of view from an endless onslaught of 8channers. The feminist point view isn't even represented in the article. On Jan 23, 2015, at 7:14 PM, J Hayes

Re: [Gendergap] WikiProject Women

Cool idea. I added some questions on the talk page. Kaldari On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:35 PM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I don't know if I did it right, but per Sarah's and Siko's suggestion, I started this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/WikiProject_Women Just

Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case

I'm sure it's hard to remain calm and thoughtful when 8chan is running 24/7 discussion threads to: 1. Strategize on how to subvert the consensus process to take over the article 2. Target Wikipedia editors for doxxing and harassment so that they will stop defending the article The assault was

Re: [Gendergap] The (non-existent) Farkhunda Wikipedia article--victim or rallying point

Is there an article on vaginal fistula? I would look it up myself, but I'm at work :) On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: It could just as easily be argued the other way, I think. It's presumptuous and perhaps insulting to purport to create a biography on a

Re: [Gendergap] Tomboy on Wikipedia

Adding a criticism section sounds like a good idea (assuming some sources can be found). I added a criticism section to the article Feminazi, lest someone think that everyone is fine with the use of that term :) On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote:

[Gendergap] Women's health articles

Should I be surprised that only one of the six participants in the current discussion at the vaginal yeast infection article is a woman? Maybe it's time to create a 'Women's health' WikiProject! Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list

Re: [Gendergap] Women's health articles

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Netha Hussain nethahuss...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ryan, Thank you for bringing this to my notice! Could I get the link to the article? It's a little hard to find (which is actually the subject of the discussion):

Re: [Gendergap] Women's health articles

and sign me up, too. Sydney On May 14, 2015 8:39 PM, keilanawiki keilanaw...@gmail.com wrote: Let's do it - I'm happy to help set it up! :) Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org Date:05/14/2015 1:23 PM (GMT-06:00

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia and Feminism.

I find the entire premise of this essay to be a bit misguided. Do we really need to worry about tamping down the trickle of feminists editing art articles on Wikipedia? There are easily ten times more men's rights activists editing Wikipedia than feminists, and they actively organize off-wiki to

Re: [Gendergap] Women's health articles

T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org Date:05/14/2015 3:22 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation of women within Wikimedia projects. gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Cc

Re: [Gendergap] Atlantic article..."How Wikipedia is Hostile to Women"

Personally I'm skeptical of our (this mailing list's) ability to reform ArbCom. The candidates who are the most tolerant of harassment and misogyny seem to always be the most popular candidates. Thus the outcome of the ArbCom cases are hardly surprising. Do we even have a slate of candidates that

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

True, people are different. Some people I would like to work with, and some people I wouldn't (like Linus Torvalds). His argument that social norms are irreverent to creating software (or should be) rings pretty hollow, in my opinion. Collaborating on software (or encyclopedias) is a social

Re: [Gendergap] Linux's culture problem

On the topic of social contracts and communities, I'd like to invite anyone who's interested to take a look at the draft version of the Code of Conduct for Wikimedia Technical Spaces - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft. Any feedback is welcome on the talk

[Gendergap] Arbcom election

Just a head's up that the ArbCom election has started and you can now officially go vote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/398 Members of this list may be interested in Smallbones' voter guide for the election: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Smallbones/ACE2015 It focuses

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

What I don't understand is if administrators like Risker and Mike Peel are so concerned about civility on Wikipedia that they object to Keliana's swearing, why aren't they the people that are making hard blocks against vested contributors who are unambiguously violating civility with personal

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

The depressing thing to me is that the English Wikipedia community takes all of 10 minutes to work itself into a frenzy about the use of profanity in a positive, non-personal way, but if an editor on Wikipedia calls a female editor a cunt, no one dares to bat an eye. On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:39

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

on. It's hard to imagine such >> any Signpost column inspiring so much passion, say, five years ago. Above >> all, I think this constitutes a strong endorsement of the general value of >> the Signpost. >> >> -Pete >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Rya

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Risker wrote: > Unless my vision has completely eroded, I do not see the word "cunt" > anywhere in that article, Ryan. Nobody on this list has ever said that > calling someone a cunt is a good thing. > I was referring to the common defense

Re: [Gendergap] Signpost op-ed (NSFW)

a strong >>> opinion one way or the other about whether using language in this way is >>> OK. But the main lesson to me is how much the English Wikipedia community >>> has come to value the Signpost as an institution. It's hard to imagine such >>> any Signpost

Re: [Gendergap] Systematic tagging for deletion of articles created at Art And Feminism editathon

I find it disappointing that so many of the Art and Feminism editathons end up focusing almost exclusively on creating new articles for artists at the hosting institution. Not only does this lead to a high percentage of the articles being deleted, but it's a waste of a huge opportunity to create

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