Re: radionics, voodoo, holy cards, and 3rd class relics
. We have been trying to control invasive weeds and the like for almost a hundred years with toxic chemicals and all we have proved is they are no solution. Don't you think it's past time we tried a different approach? Like changing the plants' energy flows, patterns and requirements, for instance? That is how we enliven soils and plants with BD preps - don't you think it might work the other way? Roger Is there anywhere that toxic substances really help long term. Drugs kill or maim as many people as they save. Look at rabbits in our countries and your Brushtailed Possum in N.Z. Regards, Peter. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: New Zealanders
The only good that might come out of this if we can through a reserch program, prove that biodynamicaly produced pasture produces less flatulence. Massey already have an organic systems comparison farm close to the university. Measuring methane could be one more parmeter to start the process going. Several PhD. students are doing thesis on nitrous oxide emissions. One of them was quite keen to put in a B.D. element but I think that I might have got there a bit too late. I'll keep an eye out for other opportunities. Peter. - Original Message - From: Peter Cotterill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:14 PM Subject: Re: New Zealanders Unfortunely New Zealand government signed the Kyoto Protocol and now is responsible to lower greenhouse gas emissions. The Australia and US governments had more sense and did not signed. The NZ government is going to levy each cattle and sheep to collect 8.4 million dollars research fund to find ways to lower these methane emissions. The New Zealand Farmers are angry and have formed a protest group called F.A.R.T. Fight Against Rediculous Taxes and they plan to block the highways with their tractors if need be. The farmers argue that their farms are only part of the cycle absorbing greenhouse gases as well as producing them. However the government refuses to back down and now it looks like the farmers will refuse to co-operate in the collection of the flatulence tax. Peter Cotterill. - Original Message - From: Rex Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: Re: New Zealanders Eric et al On 15 Jul 03, Eric Myren wrote: What is this I hear about farmers in New Zealand mailing the government sheep and cow poop to protest a flatulence tax? http://www.ruralnews.co.nz/article.asp?channelid=32articleid=4100 We wonder if Marie's few milking sheep are going to cop the proposed tax? 8-] Rex ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: New Zealanders
Kia ora, Would a petition be worth a try??? - Original Message - From: Di Handley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:09 AM Subject: Re: New Zealanders Kia ora We somehow need to get the energy that is going in to this fart campaign to be transferred to the anti GE campaign. The moratorium is set to be lifted late October this year. Any suggestions? Kia kaha Diana ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Forget the VuDu - 501 grinding
The way I have always made it and been instructed at the Goetheanum and from my father was to grind it so fine that it no longer gritted when rubbed between two teeth. The reason was that the crystals were fully broken so that a new structure could form in the horn over summer. It has always worked well. I know of one person who didn't bother to grind it so fine and they had disapointing results from use. To check this teory out one would need to use both types on the same herbage at the same time and concentrations, otherwise other parameters could be causing an influence. Best wishes, Peter. - Original Message - From: Resonant Info [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:04 AM Subject: Forget the VuDu - 501 grinding I know James H. might think this is a Dorothy Dixer, but what about the coarse/fine grinding of 501? This was recently discussed in 2 articles by Harvey Lisle and Malcolm Gardner in the US Biodynamics journal. Have any prep makers here on BDNow got any testimonials to add? -- Graeme Gerrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Cow Horns
Hi Eric, The conformation of cow's horns is related to their diet, the cosmic forces contained in it. These forces come from the rear of the cow and are related to Moon, Mercury and Venus The horn is a reflector that reflects back what enters it. While attached to the animal this activity is reflected back into the digestive system. Other things that can change the direction of a growing horn are nicks or cuts however sustained. The horn usually grows away from the cut. When the horn is used for Biodynamic purposes the activity of the layer of soil they are buried in is reflected back into the material contained within the horn so supersaturating it with the activity of the time, usualy either summer or winter. This we are then able to use in the persuit of our biodynamic method. Happy travelling. Peter. - Original Message - From: Eric Myren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 2:41 PM Subject: Cow Horns In my travels in Southern Alberta this weekend my family and I stayed at a small bed and breakfast certified organic farm called The Robins Nest. Other than the good hospitality and food we received the most remarkable thing about the place was one member of their cattle herd of Shetlands. She was 13 years old and had given birth last year. What was unusual about her was her horns one was curved up the other was curved down. The question I have in my mind is what do members on this list think about the capacities for such an animal for tuning in Universal forces in balance? Can anyone else comment on cow horns tuning in Universal forces and their relationships to the preps 500 501? Drawing of course on your years of experience. PEACE Eric From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] point two: it was always my impression that the horn wored on the silica or the manure the same way it wored on the cow. The refined digestive process of the cows four stomachs is further enhanced by the chewing of cud and during that process the earthiness is rayed back in by the horn structure[which arises from skin, the most sensitive and largest organ on any creature]. It is via the horn that we get this wonderful manure from the cow and in bd we have capitalized on this effect for 500/501...sstorch ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: BD Down under
Hi James, Thanks for your comment re homoeopathy and Koliskos I think that it is vitally important. Re changing polarity, Does this have a connection with the balance of anions and cations or pH where this does not otherwise co-relate? Next month I will be in Cairns and hope to meet good number of you wizards of Oz. Unfortunately I won't beable to mke a wider tour on this occasion. One day I hope to visit a few of you folk on your home patches and see what you're all doing. In the meantime I'm looking forward to Hugh's visit. - Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: Re: BD Down under ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Dornachian reactions? A glimmer of hope
Hi Tony, That is great news, I hope the meeting goes well. warm regards, Peter. Hi Glen Maybe there is a glimmer of change on the horizon. I was contacted yesterday by a NZBD assoc member and was asked 'How can the NZBD assoc help people like me who organise workshops and international speakers to come to NZ. I am having a meeting on Sunday. Cheers Tony Robinson NZ ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Dornachian reactions?
In N.Z. it is not a great deal different to Europe. There are quite a number
using the preparations in various forms and using other certifications. one
should remember that Steiner's instructions were to farm homoeopathicaly.
This instruction was given to the Koliskos who were attending the lectures
for medical practitioners and pharmacists. They were being instructed in the
use of decimal homoeopathy. During the agricultural lectures they were
commended for their work and after the lectures asked to continue with their
research. Steiner did not want the agricultural lectures made public, only
the work of those who brought it to physical manifestation. We should be
going through the process of trial and peer review, just like other
scientific disciplins. This crisis in Europe may be to help some people to
wake up to what Steiner's intentions really were.
Yes sleep is much more comfortable So leagal action may be needed to
cause a little more discomfort
regards,
Peter.
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From: Arjen Huese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions?
A lot of European bdgrowers use the Demeter-symbol and get a higher price
for their products than for ordinary organic products. Part of the
requirements for using the Demeter-symbol is the ('traditional') use of
the
preps, not radionically applied but physically stirring and spraying.
Manfred Klett (the head of the agricultural section in the
Goetheanum-Dornach) suggests '... in the meantime we have to feel free to
act illegally...'
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Re: BD Research was Can error be turned to advantage?
Hi Liz, The peppering experiment you are mentioning is very similar to what a group of us in N.Z. would like to follow through on, Your brush tailed possum is rather too fond of our bush and needs to be controlled. The cages need to be on the ground and the ground is much more receptive to the pepper material if it is moist enough to support seed germination. If you are working with ash stired into sand or a homoeopathic dilution the energy of the pepper needs to be taken into the soil to radiate back out again. I have found rabbits here to consistently move six weeks after application of the preparation, and it takes either two or three applications over a number of years to get the message across to them to stay away long term. At Gary and Jan Blake's place a patch that the rabbits loved and was easily viewed from the dineing table was peppered and a daily watch was maintained from the table at breakfast time. Behavioural changes were noted in any that strayed into the treated zone. They felt uneasy and on edge and didn't stay for long. Go for it it would be valuable research. Best wishes, Peter. Secondly the peppering, from the little I know the reproductive system should be affected. Now I know that lab. research is not the real thing, but could this not be tested in a controlled environment experiment. If I was to house pairs of rabbits separately, and treat some with a pepper. This sort of experiment could show physical changes, behaviour changes or drop of reproductive rate numbers? Is it worth observing to that degree and further regarding planet influences? It's an area I'd like to work in and wonder if this is where I could put scientific research of BD into action? Or would I be better off pursuing the preps??? I have the honour of having a wise and well published scientist at the uni, who is willing to guide me in whatever I pursue. He says with all that he's done the greatest of these is teaching Ecological Agriculture. Feel as though this is a chance for some sort of research and my heart/head/hands are with BD. Have to admit I'm a bit ahead of myself, but my marks are being maintained for an honours research year, so would like to consider some options. All feedback welcome, thanks. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Can Error be turned to Advantage?
Hi Roger, Maybe a bit of lime, perhaps twice as much as the super added. One would need to consider what effect this would have in relation to other plots in the comparison and what the target designation of the land is to be at the conclusion of the trial. either way the experience needs to be capitalised on. Did / will the application have a short term detrimental effect on some paremeters or was there an improvement? Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:26 PM Subject: Can Error be turned to Advantage? A SE NSW project to compare three methods of revegetation of degraded landscape, namely Biodynamic, Compost Assisted, and Conventional, was recently compromised by the inadvertent application of superphosphate to the biodynamic portion. The project commenced in Nov 2001. Immediately prior to the application, the status of the trial was as follows: Biodynamic Paddock, approx 20 hectares. Nineteen hectares of this has received seven sprays of BD500 at BACA recommended rates and three of 501 ditto, the preps being supplied by the association and mixed using John Wilkes-style flowforms. The remaining hectare was included in the first of the above sprays (back-to-back 500/501) and then hand-sprayed with radionically prepared 500 501 at the same times as the others. In addition, the full paddock received three sprays of liquid soil conditioner (compost tea) prepared on site and applied at 100L per hectare between August and December last year. All of these formulations were completely natural, none contained or were assisted by chemicals. The latest site report (24 May 03) by the consultants (leaders in their field in the SE region) stated in part There is a marked improvement in the fertility present as compared to the conventional section over the time of the trial. The soils are slightly softer and better able to absorb water compared to the conventional site and as it all was at the beginning. Compost Assisted Paddock, approx 10 hectares. This has had one application of 30 tonnes of commercially produced compost applied in June last year and three sprays of the same liquid conditioner as above. Conventional Paddock, approx 10 hectares. This has had three sprays of the same liquid conditioner as above, mainly to keep it viable until seeding time. The plan called for weedicide to be applied before seeding (if required) and the application of superphosphate to encourage and facilitate growth. It is pointless crying over spilt milk. It is equally pointless to expend $A16K on a trial and then just walk away from it with nothing to show for the exercise. Accordingly, Project Management has recommended the occurrence be treated as an 'act of God' and incorporated into the plan, so that from now on the trial will be comparing the effect of Biodynamic substances plus a minimal amount of super with Compost Assisted and Conventional. This will give a four-way comparison at the scheduled end of the trial instead of three-way. The probability is that some farmers would decide to add super in any case to 'kick' any improvement along and this extended comparison could therefore be of considerable benefit one way or another. The purpose of this email is to invite sane and constructive comments on how BDNOW! members would handle the above scenario if placed in the same position as Project Management. Cheers Roger Natural Earth Healing Circle (Link 1, NSW) Ph / Fax: +61 2 6255 3824 Mob: +61 410 469 541 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://earth-careonline.com ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: prep making illegal in the EU
Dear Michael, Thankyou very much, hope you are having a great summer over there. We are approaching the shortest day so daylight is valuable at present. The pasture grass on the paddocks round us are still growing at full speed here as the soil hasn't cooled too much yet. Cheers, Peter. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: prep making illegal in the EU
What seems to be ignored is that farming biologically and biodynamically is the remedy or at least the preventative of many if not all these mentioned horrible diseases. Therefore good biodynamic farming should be welcomed with open arms and the strongest encouragement. Peter. It is true about the making of the preparations being illegal here in Europe at the moment. The problem is in the burying of the organs; after all the animal diseases that we have had the last years (BSE, foot and mouth, chicken disease now in Holland, etc) legislation has become very strict on what you can and can't do with animal organs. So we either have to make them illegally, or ? There have been some experiments in Holland by a creative BDfarmer who made the preparations without the organs, by putting the herbs at a certain place in a replica Cheops pyramide. Apparantly there are different levels in the pyramide, that correspond with ...? I would love to hear from other people if they have any alternative ways of manufacturing the preparations. What are these Rae cards that Loyd was writing about last week? Apparantly there has been a lot of creativity in applying them (broadcasters, BDmax ready-sprays, orgon accumulators), but how about making them? Does everybody here follow the basic recipe? Arjen Huese ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: prep making illegal in the EU
if you can read German you are most welcome to copies. Is this not a huge opportunity to ask ourselves what is Biodynamics if you take away the Preps? Are the preps really understood? Regards Lawrence Hi Laurence, I would appreciate a copy, Is it on line? do you have it in e-document form? Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: mroiboz To: lawrence duncan lampson Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:47 AM Subject: Fw: prep making illegal in the EU ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: prep making illegal in the EU
How do you make 500 and 501 if not in cow's horns? 504, 507 and 508 are clear enough, Warm regards, Peter, - Original Message - From: mroiboz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:05 PM Subject: Re: prep making illegal in the EU It is only pertaining to the preps that use animal parts. Not 501, 500 and 507. This is my understanding from Lawrence Lampson from Glenora Farm in Duncan on Vancouver Island, BC's visit to Dornach at Easter time. Michael - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: prep making illegal in the EU My understanding is that Homoeopathic Preps are excluded. Would it be that Preps made using Rae Cards, be also excluded? Gil Tony Nelson-Smith wrote: Folks - I don't know about the illegality of making the preps but I suppose it has been technically illegal to use them, at least in the UK, for some longish time. Correctly speaking, only substances/chemicals approved by the Ministry of Agriculture and so labelled may be used, even in private gardens. It is thus against the law to apply (for example) common salt, as this is not an approved chemical. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Fwd: Prep 500 and 501 effects
Thank you Hugh and Dave, Just a little background to the soil and the plots. They are near Tauranga not far north of the 38th paralell. Very few frosts in the winter but this last season had quite a few spring frosts. The soil is a sandy loam that has had some light pummice showers over it a long time ago. The calcuim is low and the potasium very high, zinc and copper are on the low side too. The whole garden is a night paddock cow campor cows bedroom so is well manured from the cow perspective. When I first came to live here I made a mineral compost with R.P.R.,dolomite, local crusher dust, sulfer,copper, zinc and selenium, with just enough organic material to compost through three heat cycles and four turns. After four months there was no visible evidence of any mineral inputs although the final heap was only double the volume of the minerals added. This was dressed on at 2t. / Ha.As a result the grass growth rate doubled a fortnight after application. Most of theland since had 3t. / Ha of twice but the garden area missed out. After the lettuces were finnished we put on a stirred 500 that was made with clay bungs in the horns plus some chamomile prep and a bit of worm casting, The worms are now shoulder to shoulder. The grass growth is matching the N. farmer next door. Warm regards to all, Peter. - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel To: Dave Robison Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:18 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Prep 500 and 501 effects ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Hugh Lovel visits New Zealand July
Hi Hugh, Looking forward to seeing you out here again. I will take you on to the next stop after Hamilton and hand you over to Peter Proctor to go on to H.B. I am due to fly out to Cairns on 25th 7am. so expect to see you there again at the end of the month. My partner Gill Cole is doing her Masters @ Massey Uni. Horn Quartz and its effect on plants is a major part of the thesis and she is interested to know your oppinion as to what the best tests are to show a 'scientific' difference? We have been trying to contact you off list but our sever doesn't seem to know yours, and we can't get through. Best, Peter. SAT 19 July 10.00 am - 4.00pmKiawaka Memorial Hall. Mangawhai Rd Kaiwaka.Register with Anne Dodds 09 435 3129 or Berndette Blair. 09 415 9044.Waikato / Bay of PlentyWed 23rd July 10 am -4 pmWaikato Waldorf School 54 Borman Rd HamiltonRegister with Tanja Benthien ph/fax 07 872 2545 Peter Bacchus 07 542 1914 e-mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Hawkes BayFriday 25th July 9.30 -3.30Havelock North Community Centre, Te Mata Rd, Havelock North.Register with Cleone Armon 06 878 3128Horowhenua, Manawatu, Wairapapa, WhanganuiSunday 27th July.10.00-4.00Rambler Flowers 86 The Avenue [SH1]Please register with Enterprise Horowhenua 06 3670524.___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnowVisit our website at: www.unionag.net ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Introduction
In Holland lots of BDfarmers have been using preparations over a long period of time, without ever seeing any results. Some subsequently quit using them (until recently, use of preparations was not obligotary according to Dutch Demeter Standards) at all, and others continued using them without much enthousiasm. How were these bd preps used??? What is a typical spray regime??? I find it hard to believe that these things don't work if properly applied. My sense for this region is that silica is the dominant preparation needed. I would base my whole spray regime on 501. I imagine that 508, equisetum should also be a premier spray. In European biodynamic practice they got into using these dry compost preps and the biology was too altered and the results were not there. Biodynamics is about utilizing all the forces / energies not just the etheric. If it were just etheric we would have everything plump and round and too mushy. We need the astrality and also is the idea of bringing ego to the farm individuality and the soil, somewhat liberating soil and plant from the cosmic events that plants are so dependent on. I am affraid most Dutch bdfarmers don't use preparations more than 4 times (twice 500 in spring, twice 501 in (late) summer [It does not surprise me that they are not seeing results as what is needed by the plants is not being applied. Peter ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad cow update ect...
One of the issues that interests me is why there is a need to feed more protien and so much so that meat meal is considered as a source for ruminants with such long digestive tracts? Is it because the application of watersoluble fertilisers particulally nitrogen is reducing the protien levels in plants? My partner Gill Cole is working on some aspects of this for her Master of Science thesis right now. Lettuces have been the test plant and various mixes and matches of the preparations have been used. She has a list of other questions that I could pass on to anyone who would like to discuss them. From what I've taken from Mark Purdies dissertation we should see that copper zinc and selenium should be well supplied in the soil and the major cations should be well balanced too, plus active use of the Steiner remedies. One might also ask why the Warble fly is such a pest and would peppering be part of the remedy? Peter. - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Mad cow update ect... Just for clarification: I think the argument for pasture-fed ruminates has already been won in the biological farming movement. I do not think that anyone in this movement who has been paying attention thinks that it is ok to feed by-products (proteins) or grains, for that matter, to grazing animals. The mad cow situation, however, presents not so much a threat to human health as it does to the future of farming, with governments given martial law-type powers to destroy herds. Purdey's research reveals that there is no need to destroy these herds and that the origins of mad cow (what do we need to say? the ACUTE origins of Mad Cow Disease...) are in inappropriate government policies (too much insecticide applied to already imbalanced herds) I'm not too optimistic that there is anything we can do about what the governments are doing in response to Mad Cow, primarily because none of us are clear on what their true motivations are. What I think is clear is that even through everything is broken, Mad Cow represents a particularly disconcerting disruption of 'health as usual' and I, for one, feel much more comfortable with Purdey's explanation than I do with the 'official' one. As for quoting Steiner, well, he also said that farms might taste better with peppers on them, didn't he? What was he getting at?? -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Ashing
Sorry about not picking up as a joke. I agree that humour is the best medicine and one does not need a prescription and seldom does one die of an over dose. Why I made the point was because I once helped a guy do some peppering, the timeing and process weremeticulously correct yet those little animals took not a blind bit of notice. All the way through the process feelings of hate and worse were expressed. Regards, Peter. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: GM foods and gut lesions -- was Monsanto's Canola
I thought G.M. meant Genetically Muddled. Peter. - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: Re: GM foods and gut lesions -- was Monsanto's Canola In a message dated 5/13/03 1:55:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will someone explain -- when should one use the term GM (genetically modified) vs. GE (genetically engineered) ? take care, -Lily Don't give them the credit of using a term like engineered or modified. I like the descriptive term of genetically 'prostituted' or 'raped'...sstorch or 'hacked' -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Ashing
even before you toast the little buggers. My experience has shown that making derogotive statments or thinking negetive thoughts about the organism to be treated is unhelpful. One is afterall communicating with their guiding being or Deva. How do you react when others ask you to do something after saying unpleasant things about you? Regards, Peter. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Vitality and fertility ofsoils
Hi Hugh, Steve and BDNowers, After visiting your seminar Hugh, I had the good fortune to spend some time with Greg. As part of that experience we did some stiring in a small barrel. The only vessel that I could imagine being better than a barrel would be an egg shape. Greg pointed out to me that when one gets stiring a flame shaped vortex descends down the pole into the water. No doubt it goes the other way too. When I stir here when things are getting a bit dry I use a long bamboo pole tied to a branch in a tree. It seems that the 'as above so below' process works in forming a vortex in the atmosphere as well as in the barrel. The result is always some rain. The more people involved the sooner it comes. On the occasions that three of us sprayed and stired we were well drenched within the hour of finnishing stiring. Sure I use potentised preps, and a tree for broadcast as well, but an hour on the stiring pole every now and then gives the body a good workout although I never stir more than 180 liters at once. I had an iteresting experience this year with bottling peaches. With the stiring of horn manure that was made with clay bungs and a bit of chomomile prep for luck then the rain the peaches just about exploded on the tree. To shut them down and ripen them I put one of Glen's root development compounds on followed by his patent mix for ripening. I brix tested the peach juice after cooking without adding any sugar. The first lot picked straight after spraying, came out at 7, the next lot a couple of days later were 16 and a couple of days after that, 15. Each lot was picked at a similar stage of visual ripeness. The root development spray was used to take the sap preasure away from the fruit. This in turn seemed to reduce the tendency to rot. Cheers, Peter. Dear Steve, Okay, next time I stir 500 and 501 I'll make the stirred cards. I'm sure Wendy didn't stir before making the cards. Just incidentally, the most beautiful vortices I've ever seen in stirring were in barrels stirred by Greg Willis. His method was a meticulously prepared pole supported by a tripod and stirred in wine casks. Really beautiful vortices. I don't know how one could duplicate them with machine stirring. I wish you could have seen it, and if you ever get a chance to see someone stir by Greg's method, do so. Best, Hugh I do recommend your pipe. Phil Wheeler installed one at a consultation I did the day after I left. I endorsed it and will work within the parameters of these farmers wishes. They need to cover 2500 acres and they want good results. They have been 25 years no till and want to see more improvements. I have been asking you for some years to make a hand stirred reagent/malcom-rae card/fb reagent. Has that been done??? I even gave you some of my bc with 500-508, any report or use of it? I highly respect what you are doing and will take up radionics and field broadcasting in the near future when I feel I have my current ducks in a row. I ask you to make this stirred water reagent because you have the experience to see the difference, I would need to start from scratch, we don't have the luxury of that kind of time. And as for stirring time I think the hour number was tossed out there by Rudy. With the stirring machine you can observe the patterns in the water more readily than with hand stirring. I have prepared 500 and 501 in about 10-15 minutes. I have done this on properties that have never had an application with a one hour stir and have achieved obvious results. I have done this with water that has never been heated, cold out of the ground and you get results. There have been many impedences placed by dogmatic/armchair anthropop farmers to prevent folks from stirring the easy way. The making of the bd preps is an elevation of matter. The harvest of the sheathe material, the plant material, the marriage of the two, the human interaction, imagine a bd raised cow with proper feed and care and love and bd plants, then making them into these preparations, wow. Spirit and matter, that is what the man was talking about. Someone out there using radionics and field broadcasters please try making a stirred water preparation for these instruments, it would be ashame to wait for me to do it. Keep up the great work... SStorch Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: healthstudies
I do know that there are quite a number of farmers who change to an organic / biological system of farming for health reasons and have been to treat a farmer who was being poisened by the roof water that contained agrichemical sprays. The neighbour was a realy generous chap who liked to share the aerosol part of the spray generously with all his down wind neibours. Even the cloths in the wardrobe stunk of it. I don't know of a university study on this subject. Best wishes, Peter. - Original Message - From: Eric Myren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: healthstudies Does anyone know of any health studies done on chemical farmers? If the negative effects of all the toxic sprays were to show up in one segment of the population it would be them. Not to mention the fact that they would also be inhaling all that genetically engineered pollen. I did hear one stat that serious prostate cancer was 50 times higher in chemical farmers
Re: Mass exodus of Europe's biotech companies from GM crops
Sounds like a bit of good sense is getting through at last. Those who miss out will not need to catch up, they will just have less mess to clean afterwards. Peter. - Original Message - From: Alberto Machado To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:30 AM Subject: Mass exodus of Europe's biotech companies from GM crops mass exodus of Europe's biotech companies from GM crops *Pro-Agro shows the gate to its research staff [For a copy of the full report http://www.jrc.es/gmoreview.pdf] GM Crops: Industry 0 - Protesters 1 Severin Carrell reports on the mass exodus of Europe's biotech companies from genetically modified crops The Independent on Sunday, 23 March 2003 Europe's biotech firms have cancelled millions of pounds worth of research into genetically modified crops, sending the industry into a steep slump, a new study has found. The European Commission has admitted that nearly two thirds of the EU's biotech companies have cancelled GM research projects over the past four years, mainly because of the controversy over the safety and labelling of GM crops, and continuing consumer resistance. The Commission also found that the number of GM field trial applications fell by 76 per cent last year, from the 250 submitted in 1998 to a level not seen since 1992. By comparison, US field trial bids have remained relatively stable at about 1,000 a year. The Commission's gloom deepened after an opinion poll of 16,500 people showed deep-rooted disquiet about GM crops. Although 44 per cent of Europeans believed medical biotechnology would improve their lives, only 36 per cent supported GM foods. Philippe Busquin, the European Research Commissioner, complained that "unjustified fears and prejudice" were severely damaging the EU's economic prospects. "The increasingly sceptical climate is scaring European biotech companies and research centres away," he claimed. "If we do not reverse the trend now, we will be dependent on technologies developed elsewhere." In a bid to counter this problem, he is ploughing another 2.25bn (?1.52bn) into life sciences research. The survey also underlined the public sector's increasingly leading role in biotech RD in Europe. Only 22 per cent of research institutes and 25 per cent of university institutes abandoned GM projects, compared to 68 per cent of the big biotech firms. Anti-GM groups said Mr Busquin appeared to have ignored evidence that investors were nervous about the viability of biotech companies. One study by the London-based Institute for Science in Society said share values in leading US biotech firms dropped 43 per cent last year. Sue Mayer, of campaign group Genewatch, said the sector had failed to justify claims it could quickly produce GM crops with improved nutritional or health properties, and had suppressed damaging results from trials.
Re: Help
I have just recently used some horn manure horn clay mix, mostly made as my father leaned it from Ernst Stegeman. Seeing the results causes me to greatly regret having separated the clay out before stiring. when we applied it to the family farm 40 years ago. When I / we stir a barrel of 500 here it attracts rain. I have a long bamboo pole tied to a branch in a tree. With three people stiring the rain has come within one hour of the finish of stiring. When I stir alone it take five or six hours. I can just about see the grass growing in the sprayed zone. Peter. - Original Message - From: Rambler Flowers LTD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Help - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] . chief keys to how horn clay operates. And thanks, Tony, for making such wonderful horn clay. What have been your experiences in using it? Hi Hugh sorry for the delay . It has been a very busy week as well as my wife has been going through a homeopathic detox and it has made her very sick with the flu. Your post has reminded me that we reburied some horn clay and I have never lifted it , will check in the next day or two and report back. Yes I have been using horn clay ever since and my crops have been getting better. Back soon Tony R
Re: Help
I've used 501 in glashouses on tomato plants. The fruit flavours were much improved. Much the same rules apply as those for outdoor plants; look at leaf form. If it is round and juicy 501 is helpful provided the other preparations are still active. If the plant has smaller, pointy leaves with more pronounced serations, preparations from the 500 end of the spectrum are called for, and or a feed. Peter. What sort of experiences have you (anyone) had with using 501 in a greenhouse? I think that Grotzke advised that it is too strong for use in a greenhouse. (?) For this reason, I have held off using it. First outbreak of aphids makes me think of using it. I think heinz mentioned a residual and a generalized effect that henceforth makes the house uncomfortable for seedlings. But, what is you life experience? Thanks -Allan
Re: Chromas and humus Was Electronic homeopathy for plants.
Hi James and B.D.Now friends, The possum pepper I was talking about was not potentised but mixed very dilutely into sand that passed through a 7mm. screen at the rate of 110gr. / 7tonne batch. It was prepared by a concrete mixing firm. In giving these measurements please do not take it as my recomendation of the ideal. It is just what we did at the time. Some of this material that was left over from the aerial drop was what Gary Blake took home. As his property was reasonably trapped out I suggested to him to work around his boundary throwing a handfull each way every twenty meters or so. According to someone poisening possums by bait station the possums would not touch the two stations clossest to the boundary. I have no exact data on how far apart these stations are set but it was suggested to me that they were about 100m. apart. In the 70's when I first started potentising horn manure and spreading it in the back garden I noticed that the spray would not radiate into areas not covered by the spray. It had been my observation that Horn manure stired for an hour would radiate about 1m. in three days. If a teaspoon of compost prep is innoculated into a flat paddock it will radiate several hundred meters and when I treated about 110 acres like this which was approximately half the grazing round there was a noticable difference to the milk volume and the cows manure in the yard. It appears to me that the more we process prep material the less it radiates. In heaps that are raised up above the general ground level I have observed that the preparations do not leave the heap. So what happens when we prep. manure that is below the level of the ground? When broadcasting from a pipe or tree one can ask that the broadcast be to a certain fence line and 95% of the time the affected area stops directly under the wire. Much more accurate than with a map. Saves paper too!! I haven't had any experince with card preps or electonic potencies so I can't talk about them. Best wishes, Peter. Dear Lloyd, The idea that potentised preps stay put as proposed by Glen does not agree with my understanding and use of radionically prepared substances. It would appear you are indentifying an essential difference between Potentised and radionic preps - all the more reason to be clear in their naming when discussing them. By their very nature of application I would expect radionic preps to radiate. re potentised preps radiation , please inspect the pictures on my website, especially the Kale trials, where three plants, side by side, from the same punnet have been sprayed differently with 3 different outcomes. When I first began using pot. preps and spread them with a brush I had green strips across the lawn, which did not even out. (This was done 12 years ago and similiar results have occurred since) This was the first hint. I recently did trials on coriander, very close together which have shown the same effect. We also have on video -CD available- the results of some spring spraying where there is a distinct line in the paddock between the sprayed and unsprayed areas. One is dairy pasture the other is all off to seed. No diffused area whatsover. The results and pictures speak for themselves. What is your explanation if you do not accept these pictures proposal? If radionic preps stayed put you would not be able to use a small amount in your BC and expect it to permeate through the whole mix. It would just be a few drops scattered amongst the compost. if there was not a radiational effect Glen would not be able to claim that his possum retardant can be mixed into sand and a handful thrown out every 20 metres or so. The story above is from Peter Bacchus who was spreading unpotentised possum ash. Which no doubt has a radiation effect. Over the last 10 months I have been spraying pot. possum preps , not peppers, and it is obvious from the possum trails leading into and out of the tree on the edge of the sprayed area, that traffic in is normal from two directions - as seen in tracks thru long grass- however the track to the house from the tree was difficult to see, hence little to no use. Sadly I did not video this before the grass was eaten off. Supposing that you were to dilute a litre of preps from Glen, in whatever amount of water that he suggests, if the homoeopathic preps had no radiational effect on the rest of the water why would you dilute it. Is the water just a carrier or does something happen to the water. It seems to me that the memory pattern from the potentised preps permeates the medium through osmosis. Yes the water is acting as a carrier of the potentised preps. It is mixing with and being carried by, no doubt there is some combining into the memory function of the water. Where it carries it to though, is were it stays. Thus we suggest fine sprays over the area to be treated. with regards potentised weed
Re: Dairy cows even in N.Z.
My expectation is that with improving the genetics for production that the health factors receive less attention so good health in organic situations is even more meaningful. Since writing yesterday I have herd that Hella Bauer Eden has done such a thesis. I will post a link or address if there is one next week. To get juice out of grass many consultants here have some small plates welded into the jaws of a pair of vicegrips. These put quite a pressure on the herbage and work quite well on green grass. When only sugar provides the sweetness the meal is not satisfying or leaves one hungry. If there is a good measure of protein then there is a fullness to the flavour and one feels satisfied and nourised and does not get hungry again after an hour or two. Peter.
Re: Spring news
Very well said Lloyd. Peter. - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Spring news From: The Korrows Christy wrote our latest revelation is that the small percentage of organic farms (8000 certified farms in the US- 90,000 farms in Kentucky alone) is not going to turn around agriculture, Its a shame more people in organic and biodynamic agriculture dont realise this - certification is the problem! It infers an all or nothing situation - either you go organic and become certified or you remain (in the eyes of the certified) a chemical farmer. The greatest benefit to agriculture will come from integration of biodynamic and organic practices on conventional (chemical) farms, after all if you eliminate entirely the use of chemicals on a small area say ten or twenty acres of certified land, in the overall scheme of things thats not much chemical. A reduction in the rate applied on one normal scale commercial farm would make a far more significant reduction in amount of chemical used and it is easy to do. We just have to get the farmers attention and show that these things work on normal commercial farms. Greg Willis is doing this, Glen Atkinson in new Zealand has trial results supporting his use of bdpreps on chemical farms replacing toxic chemical applications with potentised preps, we are seeing these things, and other non toxic tactics working on our own farm. There is a huge opportunity here for serious reductions in toxic chemical usage without the attendant reductions in crop yield and financial pain. But I still cop a fair amount of flack along the lines of ' when are you going to do things properly and get certified' from some people within the bd movement - I admit its got more friendly as time goes on (or am I less sensitive to it). I realise we need some of the purist approach or the whole thing will get watered down to mediocrity but I also think that many people dont consider the first step because they are under the impression that they have to go the whole way or there will be no result. Painless transition should be our aim! Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: organic food
If one looks at the health factor of herds of dairy cows even in N.Z. it is remarkable the difference in vet costs and how quickly that change can take place, one can be in no doubt that consuming organic foods are conciderably more beneficial to the health of the consumer. With dairy cows one is dealing with a shorter life span than for humans. Cows can not hop on their bikes and go down town for their favourite fast food meal!! like humans can so that makes a study much easier to monitor. They haven't got access to the supermarket and all the tempting bargains either. I don't know of anyone who has done such a study at university level, do you? Perhaps someone can persuade a student to look at this question for a Master Of Science degree. My partner Gill is looking at the nutritional aspects of organic v/s conventional with lettuces as the study plant and reports amoung other things that protein is significantly ellevated where the biodynamic remedies have been used. She should be finnished her degree at the end of June. We are having autumn in N.Z. and in our part good heavy autumn rain has arrived right on shedule for golden queen peach harvest. Like many soft and stone fruit that get good rain just before harvest time splitting and rotting procede apace. This year I got busy with one of the sprays we make in the lab. (Glen Atkinson's sprays are now being marketed as B.D.Max by a new sales company of that name). Root max in the afternoon and Ripemax in the morning. The splitting slowed right down then stopped.I picked most of the fruit for bottleing. The first run had a brix of seven, the last two 16 and fifteen. No sugar or honey was used and all the fruit looked green before peeling and many after peeling too. A few leaves of stevia were added to each brew. When chopped up less than a level teaspoon. Without the use of these homoeopathic remedies I would have expected to loose more than half the fruit to brown rot. Only a few missed the bottle altogether and I had to cut bits off a few. Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: Eric Myren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:31 AM Subject: organic food Anyone that believes that organic food is not healthier than conventional food is inherently stupid and a victim of multi-national disinformationbut as you said Allan this is a personal expression with no hard evidence behind it. So people pool your resources of information and lets give them a reason for their small minds to believe. Peace Eric
Re: Subscriber exodus
its got me streached too!! Peter. - Original Message - From: Rambler Flowers LTD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Subscriber exodus - Original Message - From: Garuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:38 AM Subject: Re: Subscriber exodus I wish to support this being a BD agriculture list and not a political hotbed ( to which I have added from time to time) GA ME Too It is still our busy season here down under and there are too many off subjects . I am close to leaving this list myself. Regards Tony R
Re: snake peppers
- Original Message - From: Liz Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: snake peppers Lloyd, Peter Cheyl, Thankyou all for the suggestions, I like all of them except for catching another snake in Nov. I'm sure your trusty dog will oblige if it is necessary. Peter. I'll start experimenting and read lecture #3. Will go over the Albury notes again, I knew I had seen it somewhere. Thanks again and will let you know how it all goes. LL Liz
Re: snake peppers
Hi Liz, I've done a bit of peppering in my time. Just lately its been trying to persuade your dear possum friend to return to Oz. I haven't had the need to work with snakes yet. The main task is to reverse the fertility. To do this one needs the sense organ for reproduction, the skin. The burning part might be looked at from two angles, 1. Carbon is only one of the elements of organic chemistry and life, see lecture 3, Agriculture, by Steiner. Carbon is the anker that holds the Oxygen, Nitrogen and Hydrogen together. When those three have been driven of you are left with what might in this circumstance be described as the death element. 2. one could look at it from the aspect of process. The fertility process goes through a moist or watery stage then through a warmth or fire element stage. When this process is disrupted by bringing two fire processes together the whole thing goes into reverse and anti fertility is produced. 3. This process can be a prop through which one can comunicate with the higher being like the group soul and perhaps the elemental beings that guide these organisms, to make a humble request that a certain space be free of their presence for a particular purpose. I have observed that feelings of hate or strong dislike are most unhelpful. We must respect their integrity and their right to occupy some of the Earth. If you are just wanting to protect quite a small space there is no need to potentise the ash. One can mix it well with some sand or dry soil and sprinkle it lightly over your garden and yard. When we did the arial drop of steep bush country near Thames, we mixed about 100 grams with seven tonnes of sand and spread it at two hundred Kg. / Ha. My partner in this trial has abot 70 acres of similar country just along the coast a bit. He walked round the perimeter of his place and every 20 meters threw a handfull of the mix each way. Nearly four years later he still has no possums but his neighbour has had to treat them again. They used bait stations and those placed closest to the treated boundary remained undisturbed. I hope these few words helps you to come to a decision of what is best for you and your land. Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: Liz Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: snake peppers Morning all, With the rain has come the cooler temps, but still it is March and many snakes are on the move for a mate. Have managed to obtain a copperhead snake which my wonderful dog killed, before it headed into the laundry. Have spent some time thinking about the right time to catch a snake, the answer as far as I'm concerned is never, but when one lands in your laundry door, then it's time to make use of it. The copperheads are numerous in these parts and have stopped me some years from working in the garden. Only want to put the pepper around the house yard and food gardens, they can have the rest of the land. Unable to bring myself to skin the snake, so have allowed the maggots, wasps and ants to remove the innards. It is at this point that I am unsure of what to do to make a pepper. Even unsure if whether or not leaving it to the insects was the right thing to do? The skin is still in good nick. Have read previous posts on ashing and have lost the attachment Cheryl Kemp sent to me on snake peppers, and the questions keep coming, such as: Once turned to ash how long is the pepper good for? Is it best to keep in ash form or potenise for storage. What colour should the ash finish at, and would burning it out on the plough disc BBQ, with a lid over it be good enough? Do I apply it around the perimeter or over the land I want protected? Any answers, experience or suggested reading would be greatly appreciated, Thanks. LL Liz
Re: [globalnews] Der Spiegel: Fundamentalist Bush Regime Wants Crusade Against Islam; Bush Believes God Put Him in Oval Office (Long)
Targeting water treatment plants, electrical facilities? The reality of this nightmare, is that if just a small percentage of the war machine's budget, were used to clean up the leftover landmines, DU and poisoned wells THAT ALREADY remain behind from the last Gulf War, we could end many varieties of death by malnutrition because of water borne illnesses, we could set up sustainable agricultural projects, we could help people help themselves (teach-a-man-to-fish-story folks on this list are so fond of), set up rural medical centers, etc. If we used the whole budget now being spent to send our own young people off to be canon fodder and the cost of arms and deplorable new weapons of mass destruction (that our country produces and sells wholesale to places like, you guessed it (!) Iraq) then we could probably clean up all the dirty wells in third world countries providing a great foundation to end world hunger, rampant water borne illness, etc etc etc. Rather that we, the people, individually and together should resist injustice in every way that we can. Here in the US, a lot of that would look like how you vote with your dollars. That's just one solution. Blessings, Jane In My opinion one of the best ways to clean up water, either in well or in the drainage system, is to actively practice biodynamics and put the suggestions of Steiner, and all that has been developed from them, to work. Peace and prosperity, Peter.
Re: FW: [globalnews] Der Spiegel: Fundamentalist Bush Regime Wants Crusade Against Islam; Bush Believes God Put Him in Oval Office (Long)
I heard yesterday that Baghdad offered to debate Washington in public but that Bush ridiculed the offer. I know why he wouldn't want to accept the offer, but I do not understand why this is an unacceptable offer! What a wonderfull idea, I'm all ears! Peter.
Re: Peppering advice
The seeds need to fully ripe ready for burning on full moon so need collecting and ripening out some time before. The burning is the main transition so that is what is supported by the moon. Kia kaha - Original Message - From: Di Handley To: BDNow Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:49 PM Subject: Peppering advice Kia ora As the full moon is in Leo on Monday my understanding is that it is the best day for collecting weed seeds for peppering. Has anyone got any experience of collecting/burning/spraying back on the land that they are able to share. Many thanks Diana
Re: electron resonance
On the pacemaker itself, there has been a remarkable improvement in my health, I just wish I'd done it years ago. (But I have to wonder what the effects of it on a broadcaster, or the effects of a field broadcaster would have on it.) any comments? Hi Martha, If the reason for your pacemaker was heart arythmer it would have been worth looking at the Magnesium, Potassium balance. I have helped a number of people with heart arythma with the suggestion of using Mag. Phos 6x, a Dr. Schusseler cell salt remedy. I haven't used one of Glen's remedies on this complaint yet but see no reason why a couple of them wouldn't work. Cheers Peter.
Re: Crystaline Structure in Water
Christoph Goebles who was a co-worker at the House for Nutritional Research in Dornach 1967/8 worked on wheat seeds before planting. I left before any outcome was recorded but there may be some records there. I imagine that the best time to make an impression on the plant would be as the seed were germinating and up to the time it shows it's true form. In my opinion natures best musicians are the song birds, then the insect world. Best wishes Peter - Original Message - From: Eric Myren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: Crystaline Structure in Water Has anyone on the list every done work on the effects of music on plants or water or the water in plants? I know this may not exactly be Steiner inspired but it has peaked my interest because I was just sent a link by my mother-in law that has some absolutely awe inspiring photos of water that have been exposed to various types of music and other forms of stimulus. By showing the affect on the crystallization structure of the water, it clearly demonstrates the effects of intension on physical matter.://www.adhikara.com/water.html again this site has photographs p.s. Is any one in dryer areas of the planet using flow forms to enliven the water that they do have?
Re: BD Brain Teasers
Hi Roger, My fantasy is a little differnt to yours. Perhaps Steiner wasn't the one who gave the numbers, perhaps he just gave the recipies. Steiner was concerned that we had active links with the cosmos, the closer part of which are the seven visible planetry bodies. Perhaps the two preparations matured in cows horns relate to the winter Sun and its digestive activity and the summer Sun and its ripening capacity. Perhaps these two were given as a duality. Then we might have Moon / oakbark in skull in water / condencing calcium into carbon 505 Venus / Yarrow florets in a stags bladder / condencing the airy senitive into the watery element of the bladder and urine. potasium, cu. sulfer. Mercury / Chamomile that grows as a weed in anaerobic places and whose flowers bring health to an unsettled digestive tract, oxygen, growth and expansion. Is able to quell smells in anaerobic rotting processes. Cacium and sulfer as a catalyst. Mars / where light penetrates into plant tissue bringing a finenes and delicacy to plant growth. Magnesium plus nitrogen iron calcium etc. Jupiter the dandelion flower is tenuously attached by a delicate hollow tube, almost not of this world. Wrapped in a messentry which is the message centre of the body. The sola plexus divides the upper from the lower Is a messanger from the cosmic world to the plant world as well as from the plant world to the cosmic.One might describe it as a cosmic breathing. To help the plants find what they need. Tin, zinc and hydrogen. Saturn. the lord of warmth and cool. The boundary of the visible planets so intended to form a boundary or skin to a compost or manure heap. To be an individual one needs a boundary or a skin. Lead, phosphorus. You ask the question as to what might correspond to the fruit; what about clay? I present this as another view and I'm sure others have their veiws that are different than these two. Well thats my brain gym for today!! Best wishes, Peter. - Original Message - From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: BD Brain Teasers 1. Did Steiner really intend BD502-507 to be used solely in compost manufacture? 2. Did he identify equisetum as BD508 or was it someone else? 3. Is there a 'missing' BD509? If so, what might it and its purpose be? * Someone told me once, or I have read it and forgotten where, that the preps are not numbered sequentially but that 502-508 actually fall between 500 and 501. That is, the 'sequence' could be 500, 502, 503, 504, 505, 506, 507, 508, 501. The plant growth cycle is divisible into nine stages - mature seed, cotyledons, buds, leaves, calyx, petals, pistils, fruit, immature seed. There are at least twelve major building blocks of life - eg calcium, magnesium, potassium, sulphur, nitrogen, carbon, hydrogen, phosphorus, silicon, sodium, chlorine, manganese. There are also trace elements and other minerals that life needs - eg copper, mercury, iron, silver, tin, zinc, lead, aluminium. Now if we look at the preps we find that some of these are represented and the plant stages fit conveniently as well. 500 - horn manure - calcium - (balances soil, encourages microbial life) 502 - yarrow - sulphur - copper - (seed) 503 - chamomile - oxygen - mercury - (cotyledons) 504 - nettle - nitrogen - iron - (bud) 505 - oak bark - carbon - silver - (leaves) 506 - dandelion - hydrogen - tin - (calyx) 507 - valerian - phosphorus - lead - (petals) 508 - equisetum - silica - (pistils, stamen) (509) - ?? - ?? - (fruit) 501 - horn silica - light energy - (seed) Given the exactitude of scientists it seems unlikely that Steiner numbered his preparations in the order they 'came off the shelf' but that he had a reason for assigning the numbers as he did. One attribute all the preps have in common is energy. Could it be that in some way he assessed the amount of energy held within each prep, aligned it with the appropriate stage of plant growth, and numbered it accordingly? Back in 1924 the soils of Europe held a natural fertility that isn't there any more. Germany and Austria had been saddled with a reparations bill for world war I which was virtually impossible to pay (no prizes for guessing which country was behind that). Farmers were under pressure to produce more with less, added to which commodity prices were falling and would not recover for at least ten years. Hence the use of artificial fertilisers which were adversely affecting soil fertility. Steiner produced his preparations to counter those effects and take the soil back to its original fertility. How did he do that? Indeed, how did he know what that 'fertility' state was? Let us now enter the realm of fantasy. Let us suppose Steiner had a device which enabled him to measure the amount of 'standing' energy held in things and that at some time pre-superphosphate era he had
Re: Looking for a new CSA name
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Re: ants in the vanilla
Hi Henry, Have you thought of putting a little bit of honey in a wee dish in the middle of a tray or wide bowl and pouring boiling water over them when they are there in the greatest numbers. Once the water is cooled spray it over and round the plants to be protected. The number of bowls you need will depend on how much you need to protect. While you are doing it ask them if they would be kind enough to leave your vanilla for you or at least most of it. Your ants may be different to ours and may not respond in the same way that ours do. - Original Message - From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:51 PM Subject: Re: ants in the vanilla Henry Karczynski wrote: Catnip, mint, chrysanthemum, onion family especially garlic cloves, pennyroyal, tansy, rue as growing or dried plants repel ants so perhaps you could plant some as companion plants roger --
Re: Good health and vitality
Hi Hugh, Sounds like you might be onto some good publicity material here!! Thirty and forty years ago the chalenge was NOT getting pregnant, now the chalenge we hear about much more often is getting pregnant. So good wholesome biodynamic food has its role to play here too. DDT and many other pesticide, herbicide chemicals have proven to be estrogen mimetic (they mimic) chemicals. With the estrogen mimetic hormones in beef and chicken and so forth, is it any wonder many men are not masculine any more? The problem is so profound that it has affected the sex of fish in Florida lakes, to say nothing of amphibian reproduction in the US Southeast which has declined by roughly 80%. I know many guys my age who are telling me they don't have any interest in sex any more. All these I know are eating commercial foods. Myself, I realized in my 20s that 10 times a day was my limit, but here I am at 55 and I still think in those terms. I don't think I could get it up for more than 10 times in a day, and don't think I'd often be motivated for more than 3 or 4, really. Mid-life crisis? I do know it is rare that the women in the suburbs eating conventional food are sexually satisfied by their husbands. (No wonder the divorce rate.) But most haven't any clue what to do about it outside of finding a young stud to fill the bill. Damn, women, feed your men clean, vital food! When I market vegetables I run into it all the time that happy housewives will pay what I ask without question because they know it works at their table and in their bedroom. it's time the public got a little more of an earful about what eating local, in-season and biodynamic food can do to raise things several leagues higher.! Best, Hugh Lovel. Good health and vitality to all, Peter.
Re: changing focus 501
Hi Roger, Good on yer mate for thinking outside the square, welcome to the club. I did some of this about twenty years ago. My emphasis now is to see where the boundary is between benefit and damage. Horn Quartz's intended use is to enhance the ripening process and as Hugh Lovel has pointed out to indirectly increase the protien quantity and quality taken up by the plant. Very sorry to hear about the fires around your part of the world. We got some of your smoke in our atmosphere in N.Z. gave us some very red sun sets. Hope you get a good rain soon! We all need to learn to comunicate better with the elemental beings so they don't feel the need to create storms of fire, wind, water of ice. We need to appreciate the good work they do. Cheers Peter. - Original Message - From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:56 PM Subject: Re: changing focus 501 Lloyd Charles wrote: but I dont agree with the claim of 'ownership'. Offering to pay my internet, research, travel and accommodation costs, are you, Lloyd? :) ps none of this will work without some rain - have not had any yet!! This seems a very categoric statement - can you back it up for me please? roger -- Roger In ordinary circumstances I would find this post very offensive (and very out of character for you) - these are not ordinary circumstances and you have had a very trying time - and its not over yet - dont get uptight about ownership - there was a prior claim to similar work (James) so what! I bet Glen Atkinson has looked at this too. I have been doing work with potentised preps for a couple of years - have a trial on right now with radionic compost preps making barrel compost - the whole world is welcome to the results good or bad when its done. I wasn't aware that I was getting uptight about ownership, all I did was stake a claim to a procedure I thought of 14 months ago and tested and which looks as if it will be of benefit to the farming, and therefore the whole, community. My motive in doing so has very little to do with personal gain and a lot to do with stopping people from going off half-cocked in putting my idea into practice without talking to me first to make sure they do it correctly. If I wanted to make significant money out of anything I would hardly be discussing it on a public forum like this one, now would I? I researched BD501 and its uses from January to June last year on the internet and in libraries. I found nothing of James' research and tests or Glen's, or yours. At that time I did not even know that BDNOW! existed and had never heard of radionics; I joined the list the same day in August that I found out about it. Nor had I met James Hedley. If the fact of any research and the results are not published anywhere accessible in an easily recognisable or indexable form, then I feel I can hardly be blamed for thinking that what I am doing is original. If I have offended you, Lloyd, or anyone else then I apologise because that was not my intention. Nor am I denigrating or seeking to take away from anyone's research. Now I don't want to get bogged down on this. Too many things on this list do get bogged down on side issues. In the post you have taken exception to, Lloyd, I asked why you thought rain was needed, and now I am asking you again. cheers roger
Re: Certification Story
Hi Barbera and Woody, We all have many windows or view points through or from which we view life. There are many who look through the window refered to by Hugh. One of the definitions of fertility is the ability to produce healthy decendents. This is becomming more of a challenge for many farmers not using wholistic methods of farming, of which the suggestions of Steiner are the crowning glory. Part of the reproductive process is the will or desire to reproduce which can come into the sensuality part of the process. This brings us to the skin and possibly why it was recommended in the peppering process for the inversion or reversal of the fertility process of small animal 'pests'. Then there is the effect of the chemicals on the pituatry gland which is the subject of a chapter in the book by Dennis Klocek, SEEKING SPIRIT VISSION. This is no doubt what Hugh is refering to with estrogen mimmicking. There are more and more chemicals that are being discovered to be endocrine disrupters to a greater or lesser degree. These come to us via the air in many instances. There has been relatively little research on the effects of the volatile and aerosoled part of agrichemicals. In a poluted atmosphere who knows what we are ingesting. What is retained in food is better understood, then there is the ripening factor and the diversity of essential sugars come into the equation. We are now standing before a new challenge of how genetic modification will affect these parameters and plant and insect pherenomes which is part of what we breeth in and may have effect on our pituatry gland and consequently our whole endocrine system. Wishing all health and joy in life. - Original Message - From: Aurora Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:57 AM Subject: Re: Certification Story Dear Hugh, Peter et al: Gee I didn't quite realize that Woody and I were advocating for happier union for couples. You do have a point there except I feel it is more in the realm of sensual rather than sexual. After all when we do our work, with consciousness, are we not making love with Mother Earth, Father Sky and All Life Everywhere? And yes educating the public is something that we have been doing for years and the best way to do that is to hold a certain vibration or consciousness as you speak the truth about the products you bring to the marketplace. And one has to decipher what it is that each individual needs to hear for them to become more conscious. How can they come to their senses? Big job, highly underrated and underpaid. A big problem for many is the lack of the wild and sacred in their lives. Not enough contact and communion with Nature and all her gifts she bestows on us. Forgot, with all those chemicals that do not allow memory to function, how to be human. Took up a friendship with the culture instead which doesn't provide one with a very good tool kit to do much besides buy more crap and become more and more a servant to those and that which prevent us from having the direct experiences we came here for in the first place. When you get a direct hit from nature, that truly penetrates to the depth of you, there is full time orgasm and less definitely becomes more. There is no need for all these modern day sicknesses so yes, let's go and let's stay with the power that is rightfully ours to claim. Time is speeding up and the 'times they are a changin.' And let's stay and share the good, the true and the beautiful. On another note Woody and I are initiating some new work which comes out of a dream put on hold for many years now . It should be up on our website soon and involves taking people to pristine wilderness areas for re-edification. Blessings to all, Barbara and Woody Aurora Farm. the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora snip/
Re: Americans loss on GMO food production
Washington is frustrated with the EU's four-year moratorium on new biotech products, a policy U.S. farmers say costs them hundreds of millions of dollars in sales each year. It is common practice in comerce to check that a market needs a product before producing it. One ignores this at ones own peril. Blaming somone for not buying what they don't want is a strange sort of commerce. One should look at producing what the market is demanding. As this insistence with producing what the market does't want has continued over a number of years, the proponents of this type of production system are either slow lerners or there is another plan afoot. With observing what has happened in Percy Schmeiser's case, one wonders if it might not be to totally own and control all commercial seed stocks and through it, food supply?
Re: McDonald's Start's Organic Bid
Embattled fast-food chain McDonald's is to start sellingorganic produce in its restaurants from next month in adesperate attempt to curry public favour. The company willreplace all cartons of non-organic milk with organic milk,but it will continue to use non-organic milk in milkshakesand sundaes.Every great journy begins with the first step. Keep encouraging them and they may complete the journey.The global outfit, famous for its processed food, says thechange is in response to customer demand. It claims it wasunable to offer organic milk before because it could notguarantee adequate supplies.The news comes as the fast-food giant warns it will make aquarterly loss for the first time in its 47-year history forthe period ending December 31, 2002. It is in the process ofclosing restaurants around the world, including at least sixsites in London.In August last year, its Swedish restaurants began sellingorganic milk and organic ice cream. Sweden's McDonald's alsosaid it was considering organic coffee, but had ruled outselling organic burgers.In the UK, McDonald's has been selling free-range eggs forthe past two years in its breakfast products.In June, the company announced a three-year #300,000sponsorship of the Food Animal Initiative (FAI), a researchproject launched by Oxford University to find a mid-waypoint between organic farming and modern farming methods.McDonald's says it is considering selling other organicproducts, such as ice cream, in the future, but adds thatits strategy will be influenced by developments at the FAI.--END COPY--
Re: Trees as broadcasters
Greetings Deborah, I use a relatively small tree, ask its permission first, I haven't done any investigation as to how small one can go and still be effective. My Guess would be about 8ft. I pick one with a balanced form. I don't know what there limmits are but have reason to believe that they can work from one continent to another if that is the wish of the sender and the receiver. You can set the preparations / remedies at the base of the tree for soil radiation and a secure crook of a branch or knot hole for the atmospheric broadcast. You can set the boundaries by asking when you do your start up prayer or meditation, then check it by dowsing. I use a forked stick or L rods. I think that the same rules should apply as would be valid for any other type of spraying. Keep it to your place, and allow special friends to draw from it for their place if they wish. Talk to your tree and the elementals that live in it, from time to time. Best wishes Peter. From the land of the Lord Of The Rings film set. - Original Message - From: Deborah Byron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Perfect Orchard ?? Brookside Lab
Dear Per, Here are some address details for the Brookside Laboritories:- e-mail address for the brookside lab director Mark Flock is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . snail-mail P.O. Box 456 New Knoxville, OH 45871 fax (419) 753 2949. I hope this information will help you along the way. Peter. - Original Message - From: COYOTEHILLFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard ?? Brookside Lab Brookside Lab, can you please provide contact address/email Thanks Per Garp/ NH ( sorry i'm running 500+ email late) - Original Message - From: Peter Michael Bacchus pbaBrookside [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 04:49 AM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard ?? Dear Per Now that you have given your location and soil description it is easier to make a suggestion. Have your soil chemistry analyzed by Brookside Lab. or similar then work on balancing your cation exchange to suit grape vines. Drain as mentioned and form up windrows to plant on. grape roots like to be warm. I would be a bit cautious about sheep and goat manure as they tend to make the ground harder, or at least that is my experience. Horse manure has the most soil loosening effect, followed by cow. This is of course to be composted and prepped. Then be generous with the Horn manure and barrel compost. You need to get the soil life going which means you may need to drain to avoid waterlogging at any time. If you really do need to loosen the subsoil mechanically I suggest that you look at gelignite, I have seen it used to good effect under trees that were stunted by hard pan. In this way the topsoil would remain on top. Go and have a look at what Steven Storch is doing and perhaps get some advice from him. Best of luck, Peter. - Original Message - From: COYOTEHILLFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard ?? I appreciate this comments, We are here permanently, Hardpan is very common in the Eastern US, in NH winery's are Uncommon. Gypsum has been suggested in the past but only a hand full of it in for each grape planting. Hardpan in the NH is a sand like product with a bunch of stones large to small, it act much like quicksand when water soaked, water have a hard time penetrate it and that's way I need to drain my fields as grapes do not like wet feet's. We do not have any clay, as far as what I have seen. On top of the Hard pan we have 1 to 2 feet's of good top soil Some time more some time less pending on location and past cow manure deposit. We have consider ripping the hardpan whit a 2-3 foot Hardpan buster type of equipment but have fund that it is harder to do a good job of that type of equipment, a 3x3 dug ditch seems more functional. ( But more costly) and then the gypsum can do it's job !? I plan to cover the rows with wood chips, (and add goat and sheep manure)as a soil help and to prevent grass and competition. (I like to see chickens and Guinea fouls in the fields) Please describe the full BD cycle. Thanks Per Garp/NH
seasons greetings
wishing Alan, family and all subscribers to B.D.Now a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR. Peter Bacchus.
Re: sealant for cut tree limb?
The last new moon or the next would have been better. Walnuts bleed copiously if cut in the spring. I had a neighbour in Hastings, N.Z. who cut one at the wrong time and the sap ran, not dripped, for over a week before it slowed down. The tree went on to grow vigorously next season and thereafter. It had beenbobbed like a London Plane tree, so it takes a lot to kill a good walnut. In this case the cuts were left to bleed, there was no disease and no die back. I don't recomend the treatment described just suggest a better observation of sap flow before cutting a major limb. This can be checked by cutting a large twig and observing how the sap behaves. Best wishes, Peter. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 9:30 AM Subject: Re: sealant for cut tree limb? Dear Ian,Thank you for this info -- I do have some month-old cow manure (gathered from a non-BD friends' farm) -- not as good as fresh, BD cow pats no doubt but I'll moisten and dress with what I've got. I wish I'd known about the full moon sugestion before removing the limb (which I did only a day or so before yesterday's full moon) but is good to know for future, thanks.-LilyIn a message dated 12/18/2002 8:41:39 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj:Re: sealant for cut tree limb? Date:12/18/2002 8:41:39 PM !!!First Boot!!!From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]CC:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I just sawed off a dying limb from a tree today, and have the feeling it might be good to seal it with something.LilyMay not be of much help if you do not have access to a cow but I always usestraight, fresh cow manure plastered on the wound. My thinking being that asit is full of beneficial bacteria (Bd cow of course!!) it can only be goodfor the tree. Any wound from perhaps 7mm (1/2") upwards I would dress. Todate we have had no mishaps with the trees. If you are using the calendartry to keep away from full moons etc where there are increased sap flow.regardsIan BuckinghamMaungatawhiriNew Zealand
Re: Perfect Orchard - gelignite?
Yes, gelignite is an explosive that is a relative slow burner as explosives go, certainly much slower than T.N.T. tri nitro toluene. I'm not sure where you would get it in the U.S. Anyway it would be good to get a qualified practitioner to do the job. If you ar e using it and wipe a contaminate hand across your brow you get a headache like you wont forget in a long time. To use it for the purpose of loosening soil or blowing ditches out one bores holes with an auger just a little bigger than the plug. Usually for loosening soil hlf a plug is put in each hole with a detinator and a length of rapid burning fuse. Connect as many fast fuses together as is possible as the effect is cumulative. To all the fast fuse joined to gether attach one slow fuse or use a detinator like that used in a quarry. It is important to asses the depth of each charge and the distance between them to just achieve the optimum fracturing of the pan. There should be no soil or stones flying around. The soil should lift between one to two inches then settle back. All the holes need to be well packed. Once more I suggest this is a job for an expert, and only to be used when more gentle methods are inadiquate. It is not part of the biodynamic method! It can be extremely effective when expertly executed. I have farmed land that has had a pan formed by a high water table. This is one of the reasons for adequate drainage. The objective of all this is to get an active soil life that will keep the soil free enough to allow good root penetration. A couple of auger holes under each plant filled with compost or a mix of soil and compost may be all it takes to achieve your objective while the biodynamic method gets on with dissolving the pan over time. Best wishes, Peter. - Original Message - From: Doug Jay Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:43 AM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard - gelignite? What is gelignite? How is it used? Where is it obtained?
Re: Perfect Orchard ??
Dear Per Now that you have given your location and soil description it is easier to make a suggestion. Have your soil chemistry analyzed by Brookside Lab. or similar then work on balancing your cation exchange to suit grape vines. Drain as mentioned and form up windrows to plant on. grape roots like to be warm. I would be a bit cautious about sheep and goat manure as they tend to make the ground harder, or at least that is my experience. Horse manure has the most soil loosening effect, followed by cow. This is of course to be composted and prepped. Then be generous with the Horn manure and barrel compost. You need to get the soil life going which means you may need to drain to avoid waterlogging at any time. If you really do need to loosen the subsoil mechanically I suggest that you look at gelignite, I have seen it used to good effect under trees that were stunted by hard pan. In this way the topsoil would remain on top. Go and have a look at what Steven Storch is doing and perhaps get some advice from him. Best of luck, Peter. - Original Message - From: COYOTEHILLFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard ?? I appreciate this comments, We are here permanently, Hardpan is very common in the Eastern US, in NH winery's are Uncommon. Gypsum has been suggested in the past but only a hand full of it in for each grape planting. Hardpan in the NH is a sand like product with a bunch of stones large to small, it act much like quicksand when water soaked, water have a hard time penetrate it and that's way I need to drain my fields as grapes do not like wet feet's. We do not have any clay, as far as what I have seen. On top of the Hard pan we have 1 to 2 feet's of good top soil Some time more some time less pending on location and past cow manure deposit. We have consider ripping the hardpan whit a 2-3 foot Hardpan buster type of equipment but have fund that it is harder to do a good job of that type of equipment, a 3x3 dug ditch seems more functional. ( But more costly) and then the gypsum can do it's job !? I plan to cover the rows with wood chips, (and add goat and sheep manure)as a soil help and to prevent grass and competition. (I like to see chickens and Guinea fouls in the fields) Please describe the full BD cycle. Thanks Per Garp/NH
Re: not CSA, but farmstand
My Partner's daughter has been in Dallas for a year and would have been most greatful to purchase organically grown food. she is now packing up and returning to N.Z. There are sure to be others in Dallas who would like to purchase good food. Best wishes. Peter. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: not CSA, but farmstand A couple of days ago I forwarded a newsletter I get from a woman who runs a produce stand in Austin Tx. Granted, her stand is practically downtown Austin, but they also have about 60 acres under production in a smaller town nearby. The stand is in her front yard and only open Wednesdays and Saturdays. They sell out usually about midday every time. I'm amazed at the quantities and varieties they can offer year round. She calls her customers her 'FOFers' Friends Of the Farm, and sends out a weekely newsletter to them. To find a way to sell blemished tomatoes and past prime peppers, her husband devised a smoke shed on the farm. He smokes the romas for several days until they're smoke cured. They're then either packaged dry or packed in oil, etc. They have a certified kitchen and produce salsas and other things out of the 'past prime' vegetables. Because FoodTV featured their smoked tomatoes on a Food Finds show, their entire Fall harvest is already sold out. She even sells Rainwater! I wrote and said, 'you've got to be kidding'. She said she'd never sell AUSTIN rainwater, but this is from a man who has a catch and filtration system in Dripping Springs, and the water is a big seller there at the stand. Word of mouth has always been the best way to advertise. If you have an excellent product people who discover it are always anxious to tell their friends. Besides the gorgeous organic foods, this produce stand always has 'stationary items' such as goat cheese (the water), and organic eggs, coffee, breads, etc. I know of another produce stand open year round 24 hours a day but it is not manned. It's totally on the honor system and seems to do very well. They do keep a camera trained on the slide the money goes in and on the parking lot. This farm is basically a peach orchard but have 4 or 5 large greenhouses where they grow tomatoes during the winter. (as a rule greenhouse tomatoes are yucky but these are wonderful as they have the luxury of being vine ripened and never shipped green.) This one is not organic however. I've been wondering about a way to combine the successes of both of these stands. While we're about 60 miles from any major town, we're only 5 miles off the Interstate, half way between Houston and Dallas. I don't know if that market would bear looking into or not.
Re: Hugo Erbe
Yes please in either German or English. Peter Bacchus, 1388 H.W. 2 R.D. 7 Te Puke New Zealand. - Original Message - From: Cheryl Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hamish Mackay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Hugo Erbe Yes Please Mark, we would be very interested in Australia, and would happily be an outlet . Cheryl Kemp Education and Workshop Coordinator Biodynamic AgriCulture Australia Phone /Fax : 02 6657 5322 Home: 02 6657 5306 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.biodynamics.net.au - Original Message - From: Mark Moodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:13 PM Subject: Hugo Erbe I would be interested to hear if there is interest in an English Translation of 'Working with the Elementals' which details Hugo Erbe's work. A friend and I began a translation and discussions with the holder of the German Copyright and then found that a fine translation was commissioned and completed for the Bio-dynamic Seminar on the UK. The translator has granted his blessing and now we have to submit that to Germany and then knock it up into a publication - so there will be some time delay in having it ready to ship. However it would be good to get some idea of those who would be interested so we can guesstimate a print run. I guess if any of you want to be an outlet outside the UK I would be very happy to chat. Contents Who was Hugo Erbe - Hellmut Finsterlin New Preparations - Hugo Erbe Introductory Remarks - Hugo Erbe The Elementals as Helpers in Farm and Garden - Ernst Hagemann Supplementary Notes to Preceding Chapter Hugo Erbe's Bio-dynamic Preparations A - Preparations supplementing those given by Rudolf Steiner 1 The Calcium Preparation 2 The Loam Preparation 3 The Cholorophyll Preparation 4 The Carbon Preparation 5 The Cows Stomach Preparation 6 Earth Preparation 1 7 Earth preparation 2 B Offerings for the Elemental World 8 The three Kings Preparation 9 The Harmonizing Preparation C Tree Sprays and Preparations for Seeds and seedlings 10 -12 Tree Preparations - 1 - 3 13 14 Seed Bath Preparations 1 2 15 Root dip Preprations for seedlings and transplants D Special Preparations for Special Circumstances 16 17 Warmth Preparations 1 2 18 Frost Protection Preparation 19 Preparation for Protections against Storms and Floods 20 Humus Preparation 21 Protection against Crop damage and from Wild Animals Instructions for making Hugo Erb's B-D Preps Supplementary notes and Special Ingredients Bibliography --
Re: Transplanting remedies ?
Its about letting go of the past and grasping the present and the future. The way the remedy is made the inhibiting qualities of the strong tannins are left behind. Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Transplanting remedies ? Hi All Can some one explain the transplanting function of this rescue remedy and the Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut I'm familiar with rescue remedy, but have no information abut :Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut: Normally Walnut inhibit growth of other plants ?? Thanks Per Garp/NH Dear Per, You are right on the money that walnut inhibits the growth in almost everything except one or two grasses and black raspberries. That is precisely why it is used. Homeopathy is the treatment of conditions with materials--taken out to dilute potencies--that would otherwise cause the same condition in healthy organisms. Thus to treat cancer, the usual treatment is homeopathic Iscador (mistletoe) which amounts to a cancerous growth when it occurs naturally on oak trees. In this case to get the transplants over their shock, use rescue remedy; to send them off into growth give them walnut, a Bach Flower Remedy. Best, Hugh Lovel Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: Search for results of Elaine's testing of bd preps
If one counted all the people that had a tummy bug from eating organic food over the the last hundred years it would be a lot less than those who have died or had serious complications over the last 20 years, from agricultural chemicals. The U.S.D.A. has this like a dog with a bone and will chew on it until it has lost its flavour. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: D S Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Search for results of Elaine's testing of bd preps Hugh: I think that Frank has a valid point. Obviously poorly made compost tea can contain E.coli, the question is how do we stop it happening?
Re: G.M.O. transfers
Dear friends, We in N.Z. are being threatened with the release of G.M.O.'s into our environment. In the U.S.A. you have been living with situation for a while Have any members of this list had G.M. pollen affect plants on your properties? Have you had any friends or neighbours affected in this way? Is it a concern for anyone or has some one found a way to protect from contamination or clean it out afterwards? - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: Re: Search for results of Elaine's testing of bd preps Sorry if you read me wrong, Jane. My intention was not to chastise you but simply bring you up to date. No emotional energy here. I have total respect for Jean-Paul, which is why I was curious about why he would care about the physcial attributes of the preps. Your remark about 'political bruha' seems to trivialize the actual state of things. It is important to understand that if the USDA says that manure-based compost teas are 'dangerous,' it's not going to be acceptable to the customers of we non-certified organic practitioners to provide them food that 'shit has been sprayed on.' Anyone to steps in the realm of reason in regard to this will really be putting themself in jeopardy should any of their customers become ill for any reason whatsoever after eating a meal containing tea blasted produce. Let me be clear about this, though: the USDA is just discussing the sanctions on tea right now. This is not, as far as I understand, part of the certification rule currently. (Lloyd? Frank?) Ironically, I have been thinking of adding oat straw tea to my daily routine. That and 1m hypericum 3x daily for a few weeks. Thanks for the post, Jane -Allan
Re: What is Magic?
Hi Loyd, I'm sure you could prep each tea brew as you set the brewing process going. Before that prep the composts that you are using for tea brewing and certainly keep the broadcasters going. Last year you posted that you had a measureable difference with a pentrometer where the broadcaster was working. Don't look for reasons why you can't do it, look for reasons why you can. Better still just do it and tell us how you got on. Very best of luck and good management, Peter. - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: Re: What is Magic?
Re: Loss and Rebirth
Hi Robin, People who work the land are great people no matter where in the world they live! Greetings, Peter. - Original Message - From: Robin Duchesneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:46 AM Subject: Re: Loss and Rebirth Hi, Being a Canadian, we look at American's with our own cultural bias. While we like to think that we are different then you (better, wiser, and nicer), we are more alike then not. Most Canadians will not admit this, but I have no problem seeing our similarities. Goodness is everywhere in the common folks.
Re: Using the preps
Hi All, I believe it is a good idear to use all the preparations in the first instance and from time to time. Each one has a specific task and function. If having used all in balance and things get out of balance in your environment then by all means use one or several preparations to correct the imbalance. Best wishes, Peter. - Original Message - From: RiverValley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 6:27 PM Subject: Using the preps Hi All, Could problems develop from using some of the preps but not all. like just using 500, 501 and 508. thanks, Daniel - Original Message -
Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices
Bio Dynamic farmers and gardeners have been using cow horn manure as a spray for over seventy years. How many have been adversly affected apart from getting a sore back from carrying a bucket in one hand and flicking horn manure out with the other. I've had the wind blow it back in my face numerous times over the last 40 years and I keep in pretty good health. best wishes, Peter. - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices Allan, Without putting to fine a point on it. Personally, I would prefer something that came out of the back end of a cow, mixed with my food than any thing from Monsanto. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: If you're monitoring SANET or Elaine Inghams compost tea discussion group, you already know that the USDA organic rules group has been advised to restrict the use of compost teas on food crops. This applies particularly to teas that use added sugars (mollasses, for example). Already, however, it appears that the rule may be generalized to 'ban' all cow manure based teas. The chances of this impacting BD 500 and BC is very high. Of course, this only applies to people who are interested in receiving USDA organic certification, but the possibility of truly negative publicity is very high. I don't have all the details on these events, and what I've said above may be misleading. What I have to say most importantly is that we need to gather all the information we can on this move by the USDA organic group and discuss it among ourselves so we are prepared to speak out on it and more importantly, to talk intelligently to our customers about the difference between biodynamically grown foods and USDA organics. -Allan
Re: Rainmaking in Santa Fe... a question for Peter B
Hi Rex and list members, The publication we are studying is titled:- WORLD ETHER _-_ ELEMENTAL BEINGS -- KINGDOMS OF NATURE. It is a compilation of texts from Steiner with a commentary by Ernst Hagemann, and translated by Harold Jurgens. ISBN 0-929979-31-1 Copyright 1993 Mercury Press 241 Hungry Hollow Road, Spring Valley NY 10977 U.S.A. If you can find it it is well worth studying and living with for a time. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: Rex Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Rainmaking in Santa Fe... a question for Peter B On 17 Oct 02, Peter Michael Bacchus wrote: ---8--- So in careing for our environment we need to concern ourselves lovingly with with the nature beings. ---8--- This is indeed an interesting study. Peter... what is the basis of your study, can you suggest a book or some other material? I perceive ?something? about the state of the plants, soil, springs/water etc of our property and environs and I wish to better understand the message(s). Thanks... Rex
Re: Rainmaking in Santa Fe
Dear List Folk, I adjunct to the below we have been working with the question of the elemental and the elementary beings. Appart from the Salamanders, Warmth beings they have no ego so need some direction. When none is forthcomming from the "good" beings they can become influenced by the "adversary" beings and thus the Gnomes can become frost giants, the Undines create floods, Sylphs, wind storms and negleted Salamanders fire storms. So in careing for our environment we need to concern ourselves lovingly with with the nature beings. They need our attention as much as we need theirs. While only four groups are mentioned here those who see them remind us that for every element there is an elemental being, and for every thought. This is indeed an interesting study. I find them very helpful and only have to ask for rain when it is needed, not just by me but the plants and animals in our environment. I hope you get a great hearing at you seminar Hugh and Lorraine. Best Wishes, Peter. - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Rainmaking in Santa Fe
Re: OT:FW: [globalnews] 100 jets join attack on Iraq
- Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:56 AM Subject: Re: OT:FW: [globalnews] 100 jets join attack on Iraq Allan, If I can buy in? From a Down Under perspective, we would see US politics, The Military and the Intelligence Services as all being puppets of the small number of people who command the money in the US and a number of other countries. If there was a will to have Government of the people, by the people voting would be compulsory. I understand that only around a third vote in most elections in the US. That means that the one who is hell bent on taking you, us and many others into a war on behalf of the US oil interests, was supported by something around a sixth of those of voting age. Four sixths can only blame them selves as they did not choose to vote. Gil Thanks Gil, Another down under view. I am very grateful I had the opportunity to visit U.S. and meet some fingers in the soil Americans while I was there. Its quite a different perspective to what one reads in the news papers. Cheers, Peter.
Re: BD Viticulture Quotes wanted
Dear Hilary, Yes Please. I have a friend here in N.Z. whouses Bio Dynamic technics on his vinyard. They make very good wines. Cheers, Bacchus - Original Message - From: Hilary Wright To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:32 AM Subject: Re: BD Viticulture Quotes wanted . If you're looking for more general wine writing on BD, my book The Great Organic Wine Guidecontains a chapter of 5000 words of introduction to BD from a grape grower's perspective. I'd be happy to email that chapter to you as a Word attachment if that would be useful. Regards, Hilary
Re: The Perils of Alsheimer's was B.S. E.
- Original Message - From: Patti Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Re: The Perils of BSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About your Mom, My Chi Gong doctor said that they do not use gingko for memory. The correct food for the brain is walnuts. Law of similars, a walnut indeed looks like a little brain, Momma may also enjoy it better as a food...give it try. Goodday mate...SStorch Walnuts are indeed a good food source to prevent memory loss. Just as good is extra-virgin olive oil and sesame seeds. I grind sesame seeds in my flour for biscuits, waffles and bread and use nothing but olive oil. Patti. The problem is sugar control and dehydration or lack of adequate blood supply to the brain. A little bit of ginko hidden in her tea seems to be having a possitive effect and she is better than she was six months ago. Thanks for the tips, Cheers, Peter.
Re: The Perils of BSE
Thanks a million Chris, You're right on the mark there. I don't think it would be possible to get her on a cleansing diet but I'll remember it for myself. For me I think mecury will feature as well. When my generation were kids the dental proffesion practiced preventative dentistry. Emphasys on 'practice' we got two holes bored every six months and if there were no holes to fill then they would bore one where they thought the next one aught to be, conseqently many of us are carrying quite a bit of almalgm in our mouths. At 88 my mother wouldn't mind if St. Peter called but in the mean time she has to put up with the Peter who aint achieved sainthood yet. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: Trem, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:12 AM Subject: RE: The Perils of BSE I'm looking after a mother who is heading for alzheimers. Warm regards. Peter. Hello Peter, A man who lived in Phoenix Arizona, back in the early 80's, took in a woman who was suffering from Alzheimer's. He put her on a cleansing diet and found that she was eliminating lots of aluminum particles, which can come from processed American cheese, aluminum pots and pans, etc. After he cured her of Alzheimer's, others began calling him and asking for advise which he gave freely and without charge. Then the American Medical Association heard about it, slapped him with a law suit for practicing medicine without a license and forced him to stop helping people. What did the AMA do with the knowledge this man had for curing Alzheimer's? Nothing. The AMA succeeded in suppressing another potential cure for disease. (Don't mean to sound negative here that because of the AMA all hope is lost. Apparently, she was cured with simple drugless, cleansing methods). Best wishes for you and your mother, Chris
Re: The Perils of BSE
499 places were left for the Weleda Pharmaceutical remedies. The Biodynamic remedies therefore began at 500. It was otherwise called horn manure. There is no substitute for a bovine horn. It is the only living receptacle that has a direct link to the Sun, They are worth their weight in gold. If they get really hard to find then we will have to potentise, that makes each portion go thousands times further. and when that runs out we will be left with the Malcolm Rae cards. We need to keep the horned breeds going. Healthy well fed and cared for cows will more than likely resist B.S.E. anyway. Regards. Peter. - Original Message - From: Rex Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: RE: The Perils of BSE I thought 1-499 were homeopathic remedies and then came 500 whats next I wonder rex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Pye Sent: 30 August 2002 08:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Perils of BSE
Re: OT:FW: [globalnews] The Battle of Portland
Title: OT:FW: [globalnews] The Battle of Portland And after 9/11 the world was told how democratic and free the United States of America is (was). - Original Message - From: Jane Sherry To: BdNow Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 1:57 AM Subject: OT:FW: [globalnews] The Battle of Portland
Re: Prep container B.C.
If you can't get the timber to hold then make it as a cow manure compost above ground. The remedies are held much better in this form and Earth energy is collected in the manure rather than the opposite process when it is buried below ground level. What else you put with it should be to meet the needs of the environment that you are working in. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: Dave Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:23 AM Subject: Barrel compost At 12:01 PM 8/29/2002 -0400, sharon wrote: . last time i tried 504 there wasn't much left in the ground. the worms must have et it. Worm don't usually eat nettle, but other plants will send their roots to it esp. nettle and grapes. as to the b.c. it is quite expensive and hard to find a clean , small wooden keg,as recomended. We make a wooden box from scrap lumber, it's not even round. Seems to work ok. I have made a barrel in the past, rip a bevel on a bunch of wooden slats and band them together into a cylinder. Using regular (Doug fir) lumber, it's only good for about one season. So hasn't been worth the trouble. David Robison
Re: [globalnews] War on Iraq? Not so fast
Isn't this a case of the pot calling the kettle black? Which country in the world has the most weapons of mass destruction? Which country has initiated the most strikes on other nations? Why havn't other countries initiated pre emptive strikes on U.S.A.??? Peter.
Re: metal trellis for grapes
While I havn't seen metal trellises for grapes I have seen them for apples. The incidence of fire blight seems to increase. There could be several reasons for this or a combination of any or all of them. It could be that the apples trees are tied down to firmly, It could be that the wires are gathering earth or atmospheric energy that is producing an unwanted current through the plants. It could be that the current(s) that naturaly flow through the plant are inhibeted by the change in form and the contact with so many wires. One also needs to consider that grapes are a vine and have a different growth habit. Peter. - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: Re: metal trellis for grapes Hi! Sharon, Yes, I actually have a set of moulds that make eight fence posts at a time and two sets of strainer post moulds, but not used them. Good Point. In twenty six years, we are on our third round of steel droppers in the fence lines. while Galv strainers are fine. Gil kentjamescarson wrote: dear gil,have you ever thought about using concrete posts? we've made our own here in the garden, and a local vineyard has acres of them. lasts forever.:)sharon - Original Message -
Re: Weeds
If the plant you are refering to is also called pampas grass in New Zealand, it is a brilliant storm shelter plant, cattle love it and is unequalled as pig shelter. When composted it demonstrates its capacity as a phosphorus accumulator. This could be why it grows so prolifically on phosphorus deficient soils. Negatives: older bushes burn with a fierce heat and is very difficult to extinguish - Original Message - From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:15 AM Subject: Re: Weeds Rex Tyler wrote: great to hear that, at last someone knows what he's talking about I have studied so called wild plants for years and eaten many of them as food at last some light! Rex, has your study revealed to you any characteristics of plants, wild or otherwise, which could be of use in demonstrating that the usefulness of them goes beyond the accepted or expected? For example, serrated tussock, a fibrous grass which originated in South America, is classified as a noxious weed in South Africa, New Zealand, Australia and the United States. The reason for the classification is that stock animals will only eat it as a last resort (ie, when there is nothing else edible at all) and then because of its composition (about 92% fibre + 4% protein + 4% moisture) they cannot draw enough sustenance from it to maintain life no matter how much they consume. In some animals, the fibre blocks the gut preventing anything else from going through. But that's the 'downside' - and in this case, the downside is a killer; ST is the Number One noxious weed in Oz, kill on sight etc. (Makes little difference, the chemicals used, which include Roundup, only kill the current plant, have no effect on the seed bed, and each mature plant can dump 100,000 seeds a season which may remain dormant for up to 40+ years. BD ST peppers have been shown to do a better job.) The 'upside' is that ST is a fantastic erosion-stopper - a ground cover which will grow in the poorest soils, protect and hold them together. It also makes great mulch. Incidentally, it's inhibited by common gorse (ulex europa), another noxious weed; the two will not grow together. I have an embryo plants resource reference (currently in Excel) which I am putting together using information gleaned from all over the place.To name a few - the Ohio Plant Dictionary, http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/, http://www.geocities.com/nutriflip/Naturopathy/, books about herbs weeds, Culpeper's original writings and so on. There are currently 500 plants in there. Some of the info's pretty sketchy. This is the type of info I'm aiming for : Common Name - Burdock; Botanical Name - Arctium Lappa; Other Names; Planet - Venus; Treatment For or Uses - Acne,Gout,Arthritis,Eczema,Blood Purifier,Itch,Uric Acid,Builds Liver Health,skin diseases, flu, tonsilitis; Description - A rapid blood purifier, a diuretic, and good for ulcers. Aids the pituitary gland, keeps waste moving out of a weak body, and expels kidney and bladder stones. Reduces calcium deposits in the joints. Banana Peel - Fixes phosphorus, potash. Bury around rose bushes for stunning blooms.. Canada Thistle - growth inhibited by alfalfa, red clover. Assist inhibition by clipping thistle growth thrice per growing season. Sunflower - this plant has been sown thickly in radiation-affected areas around Chernobyl. Believed to absorb radiation components such as strontium and break down into harmless substances. Tall fescue - grass native to Southern Canada. Absorbs petro-chemical wastes and converts them as above. I welcome any info on plants regardless of whether they are classified as 'weeds' or not. roger
Re: Ferdy for Australia New Zealand
Hi Ferdy, There are several of us on the list. I'm in the Tauranga area. Call me a bit closser to the time so something can be organised. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:13 AM Subject: Ferdy for Australia New Zealand Dear Allan, I will be in Australia and New Zealand from January 13th 2003 until February 27th, 2003. Are there any connections you know of where I could learn more about BD down'under? All the best Ferdinand -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-= C-DAR HOUSE: a Centre for the transformation of the voice of the forest into an understanding of its soul through the arts. Fax: 604 898-1512 Phone: 604-898-9101 Web site: http://www.c-dar.com
Re: Koliskos
At the wizards workshop it was stressed by some speakers that homeopathic applications of lime had to be backed up by actually physically spreading lime, I pushed this line BUT I only advocate fertiliser quantities of physical lime to be spread. Thats say 10 to 20 percent of the normal recommended rate - in most cases you would be told a ton + per acre - I think 200 to 500 kg per Ha is workable. there are several reasons for this , first is cost, next is without good microbial activity and organic carbon calcium will drop through the soil system like a stone in a pond and in a few years we will find it accumulated way down the soil profile out of the root zone - Hugh Hi Loyd, I agree with on the above and for the same reasons, I have tried a potetised calcium spray in a friends garden about a year ago and it certainly woke the snails up. So according to them it certainly was effective, but not nescesarily the best thing for that time and place. I would see it as being more usefull in dry or drought conditions. Cheers, Peter.
Re: RESEND: Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture'
the Kolisko's. This research has laid the groundwork for modern agricultural homoeopathy. I believe that one of the major problems faced by the Kolisko's within the Anthroposophical movement lay in the fact that this research was competing with secular interests who were promoting the legacy of Rudolph Steiner. There was no recognition by their peers of the value of this research. To get the theory of homoeopathic dose accepted in agriculture, particularly in high potency, there had to be a development of an appropriate technology to potentise large quantities of material. This was not available at that time. What was the value of minimal dose when the basis of RS's Agriculture course was cow manure which was in plentiful supply. Steiner's indications were being interpreted by materialists who were trying to come to grips with a spiritual aspect promoted by a man who was so far ahead of his time. The time was not right for a discussion of spiritual aspects of agriculture. The time may have now arrived for European biodynamic practioners to revisit the art of homoeopathy in agriculture in response to the extreme difficulty or even imposibility of makeing most of the preparations or remedies. this may have to tide them through until the regulations can be changed again. Peter.
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
ACRES USA would reprint this book in a moment...if they could get permission I'm quite sure this could be negotiated with the Kolisko's trust. It may cost a few U.S.$ but that would be recouped after printing. Peter.
Re: Kolisko's Work was Re: Viability of Homeopathic Potencies
. Ironically, here in the US, a homeopathic pharmacy cannot potentize a substance for me without a doctor's prescription (!) Is it legal for you to import homeopthically prepared substances? Peter.
Re: Seawater ?
Hi Barry and Nancy, I live close to the ocean near Tauranga in the North Island of New Zealand. Much of the land around us is grazed by dairy cows. We have an African grass invaiding called Kykuyu. The frosts used to keep it in check but our winters are getting warmer. I went down to the sea side with two twenty litre containers, filled them with seawater and sprayed neat onto the grass to drip off. That is good and heavy, I expected to see some burn off, but no, in one place it almost trebled growth and elsewhere only doubled it. It is interesting to hear others experiences. I wouldn't imagine this would be good practice in Australia. Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: Barry Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BD Prep 503 for humans
Dear List Members, I've had an interesting experience with 501 in relationship to an abscess in the nerve canal of my lower jaw. The abscess was on the move towards the jaw hinge and it was time to do something decisive. After a discussion with Glen I started taking some 501. After about four dosesat two hourly intervals the abscess returned to the tooth where it started, then climbed up past the tooth and sat just under the skin beside the tooth. It was accutely painfull and demanding to be lanced. I then changed over to Schusseler's cell salt #12, silica 6x and after another four doses at two hourly intervals the abscess disolved and drained away via the lymph system. Perhaps this would be a good system for moving abscesses or tumors that are in inoperable situations. I was later invited to try the same treatment on a dog that had a large abscess on the top of its head. When it headed up and was ready to be released the vet and the owner decided to put the dog down instead. Apart from proving, I believe that any herbal or homoeopathic remedy should only be taken for as long as it is needed. If the condition returns then repeat the treatment. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: Re: BD Prep 503 for humans
Re: Dallas C.S.A.?
Title: FW: [globalnews] Drought Parches One Third of the Nation Do any Members of this list know of any good B.D.or organic food going into Dallas. My partner has a daughter living there and she would love to get some real food again for her family including to young boys. Regards, Peter.
Re: BD 501 (5x)
Dr Nichoaus Remer, when he was the consultant for the Northern Group in the late 1960's worked on this issue. I was present at some of the taste tests on carrots that were sprayed with various potencies of 501. all the taste pannel were unanamous that the seventh was the best. This might vary with different tintures, time and places so why not try it out for yourselves. Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: BD 501 (5x) - Original Message - From: Allan Bballiett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: BD 501 (5x) Anyone know what this means on a JPI label? How do you use it? -Allan Allan I believe its been potentised to 5x cause they ran out of the real stuff (happens occasionally) - seems this is ok if you belong to the official annointed movement but frowned upon if you want to do it outside the system (like in a cosmic pipe or spraying all the preps potentised) It should work at least as well as the original (Kolisko's work supports this) and is a fair bet that its been prepared so the material you have is used as per normal practice. Better check it out with JPI tho. Cheers Stirrer from downunder LCharles
Re: greg willis 60 min. for 500, 501
I believe that Greg has now embraced the potential of homoeopathy as well. Steiner asked the Kolisko's to investigate homoeopathic agriculture as early as 1919, Comended them for their work thus far during theAgricultural Course in 1924 and encouraged them to be active in further research work after the Agricultural Course. I believe we still have plenty to learn. Greetings, Peter. - Original Message - From: mroboz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: greg willis 60 min. for 500, 501 Hugh-I remember Greg telling me that after exactly 60 min. he saw energy waves emanating from the stirring bucket. Not before 60, but at 60. I think that is why he is so keen on the 60 min., 20 min. for BC, etc. Michael
Re: St John's Tide and bd remedies
I have noticed Saturn having stong effects on things but this works on a ten,and thirty years cycle approximately. Saturn takes one year to cover the ground that the moon covers in one day on average. As you mention Jupiter has about one season in each constelation. Mercury has its retrograde cycle in a different contstelation each year. This year it is in the Earth elements of Taurus, Virgo and Capricorn. One thing that is often noticable in N.Z. is that it usually coincides with long or heavy snow seasons. We could well be into Mid December before the warmer weather settles in again. Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: Peter Cotterill To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 10:45 PM Subject: Re: St John's Tide and bd remedies Dear Robin, Excellent web page. May I suggest you look at the paragraph on 'Lunar Movements and Tides'. Last sentence.As the earth rotates, the bulge follows the side facing the Moon so there is a high tide about every 6 hours. Here we only get a high tide every 12 hours. My original question on root, leaf, flower or fruit years was not answered fully. Could some one expand on this intensify the 501 and what determines a root,leaf, flower or fruit year? It's new to me. Couldthe influence of Jupiter and the background constellationdetermine the influence year? Jupiter takes 11.86 years to circle the Sun. So Jupiter as seen fromEarth stays in the same constellation for about 1 year. Jupiter moves into Cancer 20th ofJuly this month. So if this is correct we are now moving towards a leaf year. could someone confirm this? Peter. - Original Message - From: Robin Duchesneau To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 5:53 AM Subject: Re: St John's Tide and bd remedies Hi, My boring answer to Peter, and/or all new comers to the celestial component of BD gardening, is to read the excellent web page of the Oregon Biodynamic Group. There you willfind all sorts of stuffnamelyclasses.Fortunately there is a class on COSMIC INFLUENCES. For those who know about that stuff, but have never seen the page, will be delighted to see some original graphs of Maria Thuns experiments.Real neat! http://www.oregonbd.org/Class/Mod3.htm Rbn
Re: Incorporating Manures During the Growing Season
Added to this advice I would suggest getting some compost remedies / preps./ into onto the chicken litter before it is moved if that is at all possible then treat the land again with a full set as soon as the spreading is done. It is certainly better not to spread fresh manure at all for a number of reasons but you have explained your case and I'm sure you won't be caught out again like this. Regards, Peter.
Re: bT for Potato Beetles
Has anyone tried spraying 500 more often or perhaps a sequential spray emphasising the 500? Peter. It's not just me, folks, the whole county is being over run with pests due to the very light winter we had.
Re: Help support legislation on genetically engineered food/crops
Hi Tony, I'm working on the homoeopathic principle. If you say it often enough one will eventually reach the right potency and the desired effect may manifest. Thanks for your post on the Meter Man I met him briefly at Mystry Creek. He had a briliant kirlian photograph of an organic wheat grain and a chemically fertilised. the difference had to be seen to be believed. Cheers, Peter.
Re: calves running with the herd
I tried it for three years running with a herd about that size. It worked very well the first year, not so good the second year and the third year dambed near imposible to wean them off. I even had those big calves getting through sevenwire battened sheep proof fences. thats why this calf raising method didn't make it to the fourth year. Best wishes , Peter. - Original Message - From: I K Buckingham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: Re: calves running with the herd Have occasionally left the odd calf on its mum in the milking herd. Our experiencehas been very good calves and very little milk. regardsIan BuckinghamMaungatawhiriNew Zealand Subject: calves running with the herd I milk 150 cows and have been thinking of leaving the calves on the cows in the herd for 3 months but don't know enough about it. Can anyone shed any light on this at this herd size Thank you Kym
Re: A Neo-agrarian culture
One ten year cycle that comes to mind that is effective in weather is the Saturn cycle. It is one third of a full cycle which puts it in a symilar value constelation. When it has a watery element behind it the seasons are ususaly wetter, the production higher and the prices lower. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: Rex Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 7:50 AM Subject: Re: A Neo-agrarian culture
Re: Shredders for composting
In my experience it pays to mix all materials going into a compost heap. I have always retuned between 10% to 25% old compost mixed in with the new materials. I have often made composts using large quantities of grass collected in a forage harvester and even when tumble mixed with a bobcat there was still pockets of silage in the heap. this means that the heap needs turning fairly soon after the initial setup to get air into them. If one is hand making the compost this problem is much easier to avoid. best wishes, Peter.
Re: Chemtrails and shellfish poisoning
New Zealand has shell fish to toxic to eat from time to time. The effect is that the tounge and lips go tingly then numb if a little is eaten. If more is eaten more of the ailimentary tract is affected. Can cause death if enough is eaten. We generaly associate this with polution but I'm not sure that precise causes are known yet. Cheers. Peter. - Original Message - From: Anthony Nelson-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 3:09 AM Subject: Chemtrails and shellfish poisoning Thanks, Nancy and Michael. Seems like we've not experienced them here yet, then. We do have our own local mystery, tho' - for the last couple of months, the cockle fishery in our estuary has been closed because of Diarrheic Shellfish Poisoning. Poisoning of shellfish is usually due to a bloom of micro-algae, but only this estuary (the Burry Inlet/Loughor Estuary) seems to be affected. Three other rivers enter Carmarthen Bay and surely micro-algae would have gone up their estuaries, too: but cockles are still collected at Ferryside on the Tywi. There's talk of a mysterious toxin which no-one seems able (or willing ?) to identify - but then, it would have to be some outfall into the Loughor because, obviously, components of a chemtrail would fall over an even wider area. Tony N-S,
Re: Fw: Healing Modalities
Hi All, This news item gives the impression that the Drug comanies are feeling the preasure and this is the only way that they can claw their clients back again. Great news, keep it up folks. Best wishes, Peter. - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:18 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Healing Modalities And some think they live in a Democracy! Gil jsherry wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: Healing Modalities Dear Friends, There is a bill in committee to restrict alternative healing modalities. If you are a practitioner or recipient (consumer) of the following healing modalities this bill affects YOU, as A8704 states: INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO: accupressure, asian healing practices; Anthroposophy (Rudolph Steiner methods); Cranial Sacral Therapy; culturally traditional healing practices; detoxification practices and therapies; energetic healing; flower essences; folk practices; Gerson Therapy; Healing practices utilizing food, food supplements; nutrients and physical forces of heat, cold, water, color, touch, and light; healing-related kinesiology; Healing Touch; Hellerwork; hergology or herbalixm; homeopathy; Iridology; Jin Shin Therapy; Mind-Body Healing practices; naturopathy; polarity therapy; Qi Gong; reflexology; Reiki; Rolfing; Shiatsu; Trager Approach; Heawlth; Tuina; Yoga; or any combination of such practices. In addition to the drawbacks of this legislation as listed below, please be aware that the bill, A8704, clearly states that this state legislation supercedes U.S. constitutional protections and rights guaranteed by the 5th Amendment under U.S. law if a complaint is received against any healer using an unlicensed healing modality (sic, see above list). Also, the Commissioner may issue an ORDER DIRECTING THE PRACTITIONER TO SUBMIT TO A MENTAL OR PHYSICAL EXAMINATION OR CHEMICAL DEPENDANCY EVALUATION. In other words, if A8704 is passed into law, NY State spiritual and other unlicensed healers (including priests, nuns, ministers who do laying on of hands healing) may be forced to surrender the privacy of their medical records and Snip
Re: The Wide World and Testing Preps
During the Agricultural Course at Kobewitz when Steiner was asked about mechanical stiring he suggested it was better to stir by hand. Just before giveing the recipies for the remedies he commended the Kolisko's for their good work with homoeopathy. When he returned to Dornach he told Ehrenfried Pfeiffer that the benefits of the recipies given at Koberwitz should be spread as widely over the World as possible. These statements are still unresolved challenges to many although many others are getting to work and doing it to the best of their ability. One challenge with a stiring machine or flow form is imprinting the intent. It is too easy to forget while we busy ourselves with some other important task and leave the machine to get on with the stiring. Working with field broadcasters has demonstrated the power and importance of intent Warm regards, Peter - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: Re: The Wide World and Testing Preps In a message dated 3/23/02 1:00:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allan and Steve - why not avoid altogether the controversy between 'tedious' hand stirring and contentious mechanical stirring by using a flowform cascade? Tony N-S. Flowforms work to some degree but without the intensity and organizational forces that the stirring process creates. With flowforms you never achieve the vortexial energy that you get by creating a vortex. Steiner knew what he was talking about when he said to stir in this fashion. A vortex created by stirring from the periphery is a model of the eternally creative intelligence of the universe that is God. With a vortex you can imprint your personal intent and substance to the spray and effect the farm in that manner...SStorch
Fw: root exudates
Hi Jose, Here is another title that may help. My partner is studying for a masters in soil science and nutrition at Massey University. She said the Eastern Europeans seemed to have researched most on this subject. Cheers. Peter. - Original Message - From: Gill Cole To: Peter Bacchus Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: root exudates Book - Soil Microbial Associations 1988 Eds Vancura V. and Kunc F. Elsevier Amsterdam.
Re: Who will decide our common future?
The contol we have over these issues is with our purchasing $ and our prayers and meditations. You might not think that your contribution amounts to much, but if it is multiplied by a million it will start to be noticed. Cheers. Peter.
Re:Testing preps?
The activities, energies or forces that are accumulated in the Agricultural Remediesare the same as those that build organs in higher animals an humans. Steiner perceived that these activities, energies or forces were being pushed back by the agricultural practices current at the time. The process for each remedy should beable to be followed logically. I'm a bit slow and it took me the best part of forty years, and a bit of help from Glen, to get it sorted. I'm sure others can get it faster. Cheers, Peter. Manfred Palmer in Richmond Hill Ontario writes: The preps carry the focalized aural conditions for organizationally increased life-forms to expedite their purpose in and for the whole. ...same could be said for us as individuals, i guess. What are our preps?.
Re: Testing preps?
- Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:14 AM Subject: Re: Testing preps? Peter - The testing will be done by Elaine Ingham's lab in Oregon. We are still working on which tests to conduct. Elaine suggested testing as follows: The tests I'd want to see are total and active bacteria, total and active fungi, protozoa, and nematodes. If the material was added in fields with plants, running mycorrhizal colonization would be good too! But we are still discussing that also. -Allan Thanks Allan, Another question that arises is that of pathogens and is part of the reason that the sheath material for making the Biodynamic remedies has been oawed in Europe. It looks like they may have to survive on homoeopathic preps and radionics for a few yeutlars. Is there a risk that similar laws could be unleashed in U.S.A. How would one pay a contribution from this neck of the woods? Cheers Peter.
Re: Testing preps?
Hi Bonnie, Which lab are you testing with and which tests are intended? How wide a sample are you intending to look at? I have forwarded this message to other council members of our association. Peter. - Original Message - From: Bonnie York [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:29 AM Subject: Testing preps? If there are some here who would be interested in seeing tests on the microbial and fungal counts as discussed last week I am willing to coordinate that effort. Contribute what you can. $5 or 10, or $2 it doesn't matter. I will collect the funds, get them to the lab, and arrange for the testing. I will make an occasional report to the group on the progress of the project as we go along. I just need to be sure I'm clear on what preps we are testing and which tests we are having done. It will also depend on how much money is collected; what we can afford. You can send checks or money order to Bonnie York 10407 NE 269th St Battle Ground, Wa. USA98604 It would be good if I can get the funds collected and into one check for SFI in the next two weeks. I would like to have this project underway and not hanging around for too long. Thanks, Bonnie York
Re: What Brewer are You using? was Re: BD 508 equesetum
Hi All, Elaine is in Tauranga N.Z. bringing us up to speed on the latest in soil biology, compost and compost tea makers. Peter. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: Re: What Brewer are You using? was Re: BD 508 equesetum In a message dated 3/11/02 1:09:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am making my own, finally using my BS in marine biology.SStorch wanna talk about it? What are you using as a compost bag? No compost bag, I let it fee flow with the water. I build an upwelling pipe and lift the water with air. What are you using for aeration? I use a really high grade aquarium pump For pumping? There is no pumping, I move the liquid exclusively with air and gravity feed into the spray tank. For a tank? I have a variety of cylindrical tanks, cone bottom tanks and aqua-culture tanks. (Did I leave anything out?) If you want to put it on the schedule for the fall I will bring the newest stirring machine and a compost tea brewer to the fall conference SStorch thanks
Re: Watering the garden
Don't need to worry about upsetting us Kiwis. we sympathise with you as we have an of shore island somewhere out west and I think it is called Australia!! Peter. You will upset my kiwi cousins referring to it as my South Island. I am in Port Lincoln, South Australia. They also get upset when we talk of the outer islands.
