Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

Some messages are about PDFs that have problems, but they're not the  
reason for the crash. The crash seems to occur when it tries to read  
gear2.tiff as an XML plist. Why would it want to do that?

Christiaan

On 15 Apr 2008, at 4:29 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 Hi Miguel,

 That's a great reason to vote no!  Unfortunately, I can't reproduce
 that message or any of the others in the log you sent.  The bug report
 button only works with a limited number of mail clients.

 - Are you running 10.4 or 10.5 (I assume 10.4)?
 - What are the exact steps to reproduce the problem?

 Please quit BibDesk and move your preferences file located at ~/
 Library/Preferences/edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk.plist to the
 Desktop.  Relaunch the program and see if it works; if so, we need
 the .plist file to see what's wrong.

 -- 
 adam

 On Apr 15, 2008, at 12:22 AM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía wrote:

 Hi,

 I downloaded BibDesk-20080409.dmg and got the error attached at the
 end of this message. I have downloaded BibDesk-20080414.dmg but
 still get the same error. Also, in neither case the Report a bug
 button works (Google Mail says: Bad Request Your client has issued a
 malformed or illegal request. I think the mail fields are messed up)

 So, no vote from me so far :-(

 I hope this helps, please let me know if I can try something about  
 it.

 Cheers,

 Miguel

  ERROR MESSAGE
 

 Exception:
 *** -[NSCFArray insertObject:atIndex:]: attempt to insert nil

 Stack Trace:
 _NSExceptionHandlerExceptionRaiser (in ExceptionHandling)
 -[NSAppleEventManager
 dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon:] (in Foundation)
 __NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler (in Foundation)
 __Z20aeDispatchAppleEventPK6AEDescPS_mPh (in AE)
 __Z25dispatchEventAndSendReplyPK6AEDescPS_ (in AE)
 _aeProcessAppleEvent (in AE)
 _AEProcessAppleEvent (in HIToolbox)
 __DPSNextEvent (in AppKit)
 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] (in
 AppKit)
 -[NSApplication run] (in AppKit)
 -[OAApplication run] (in OmniAppKit)
 _NSApplicationMain (in AppKit)
 _main (in BibDesk)
 __start (in BibDesk)
 start (in BibDesk)
 0xbe0c


 Standard Error:
 Apr 14 10:36:40 Spica BibDesk[325] Error: *** Enabled ASL logging
 ***;;To disable, use;`defaults write
 edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk BDSKDisableASLLogging -bool TRUE`;
 Apr 14 10:36:43 Spica BibDesk[325] Error: 2008-04-14 10:36:43.540
 BibDesk[325] CFLog (0): ;
 Apr 14 10:36:43 Spica BibDesk[325] Error:
 CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is
 not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:;
 Apr 14 10:36:43 Spica BibDesk[325] Error: /Applications/
 BibDesk.app/Contents/Resources/gear2.tiff;
 Apr 14 10:36:43 Spica BibDesk[325] Error: The parser will
 retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.;
 Apr 14 10:36:48 Spica BibDesk[325] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 10:39:13 Spica BibDesk[325] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 10:39:19 Spica BibDesk[325] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 10:39:21 Spica BibDesk[325] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 10:40:17 Spica BibDesk[325] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 11:10:42 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: *** Enabled ASL logging
 ***;;To disable, use;`defaults write
 edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk BDSKDisableASLLogging -bool TRUE`;
 Apr 14 11:10:47 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: 2008-04-14 11:10:47.162
 BibDesk[434] CFLog (0): ;
 Apr 14 11:10:47 Spica BibDesk[434] Error:
 CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): plist parse failed; the data is
 not proper UTF-8. The file name for this data could be:;
 Apr 14 11:10:47 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: /Applications/
 BibDesk.app/Contents/Resources/gear2.tiff;
 Apr 14 11:10:47 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: The parser will
 retry as in 10.2, but the problem should be corrected in the plist.;
 Apr 14 11:43:20 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 11:47:30 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 12:39:37 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 12:40:46 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 12:43:24 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 12:44:32 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 13:00:16 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 13:10:55 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 13:15:49 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 13:38:36 Spica BibDesk[434] Error: failed to find start of
 cross-reference section.;
 Apr 14 

Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 15 Apr 2008, at 5:03 PM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía wrote:

Sorry, my last two messages were too long, I cut the errors down  
here. Let me know if you want me to re-submit them compressed.


Messages stripped of the errors, follow:

2008/4/15, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Wait a minute. I launched this version of BibDesk from my Desktop  
and now I see in the error that it mentions /Applications/BibDesk...


So,
I have moved to the Desktop the plist file (as you said) and also  
the BibDesk folder from the ~/Library/Application Support

I have sent to Trash the BibDesk 1.3.14 that works
I have put the 20080414 to /Applications
I start BibDesk 20080414 from /Applications


It shouldn't matter from where you launch bibdesk.


Still get the same or similar error...

I have noticed this line in the error:

BibDesk[16619] LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned -43 for application  
(null) path /../../.Trash/cousins.jmb.04.pdf.;




It seems to me that one publication may be trying to follow a link  
to a PDF that I sent to the Trash. But, where can BibDesk be reading  
this information from if I have put preferences and support folder  
aside? And why the stable 1.3.14 version is not giving the same  
problem?




Could be from a linked file. Try adding a Local File column and see if  
there are red paperclips, which indicate missing linked files. But  
this line does not seem to be related to the crash, it happens at a  
completely different time.


Do you have a group action toolbar item (blue gear button)?



By the way, I forgot to mention that after the error, whenever I try  
to close BibDesk it stops responding and I have to force it off.




That's not too surprising, as the program broke down.

What is more important: when did it happen, what were you doing in  
BibDesk?


Christiaan


Cheers,


Miguel


2008/4/15, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Adam,

Yes, I'm on 10.4
I just opened BibDesk and the errors appear after a while, when I  
can already see the menu bar. I have BibDesk set up to open the  
libraries from the previous session. Anyway, I did as you requested  
(with the 20080414 version) and got a similar error just opening the  
application (attached at the end) so I presume the problem is not in  
my preferences.


I must say that my computer system languages are Spanish, then  
French, then English, so the menus and messages that I get from  
BibDesk are in French. I don't think this is the problem, but just  
in case. By the way, I would like to help with the localization in  
Spanish and Catalan, may I?


Please, let me know if there is anything else I can try. BibDesk is  
becoming essential for me, great program!


Cheers,


Miguel


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 15 Apr 2008, at 6:18 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:


 On Tuesday, April 15, 2008, at 09:06AM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 I was just opening, the problem appears when opening BibDesk version
 20080414
 And when I do the same, opening, with BibDesk 1.3.14 there is no  
 problem.

 The French localization of the main window's nib is very broken.  I  
 sent a message on this to the list, but it hasn't showed up yet;  
 hence the cc: to the only two people who likely care about this  
 exchange :).


Are you using the French localization? If so, please select the  
BibDesk nightly in Finder, choose Get Info, make sure Languages is  
expanded, and uncheck French.

Christiaan

 No, I don't think I have that gear button. And why should look for  
 it at
 /Applications/BibDesk when I have BibDesk away from /Applications  
 to my
 Desktop?

 Check the date/time on the error messages, and make sure they're  
 from the same launch of the program.  I think it grabs the last 24  
 hrs of log info, so the LSOpenFromURLSpec error might be from a  
 previous launch.

 My question remains: if I have put aside all my preferences, how  
 BibDesk
 knows about any broken linked file? It shouldn't even be aware of  
 whether I
 have or not any library, isn't it? Obviously is reading it from  
 another
 source that I'm not aware off, what could that be?

 You'll need to include the log messages here for context.  It's  
 probably not doing what you think it's doing.

 -- 
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Updating URL's

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 15 Apr 2008, at 11:48 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:


 On Tuesday, April 15, 2008, at 02:28PM, Adam R. Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:

 On Tuesday, April 15, 2008, at 02:09PM, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] 
  wrote:

 As has been said here many times by now, the old URL fields are not
 supported anymore. They are treated just as string fields.

 Again: you should drag to the file icon view in the side pane.

 Depending on the bibliography requirements, that may not be  
 sufficient.  If you're dealing with a type and/or style that  
 requires the URL field to be printed out, you'll need to copy the  
 link back to the URL field.  If you add those frequently, a script  
 hook that fires on Add File or URL might be worth setting up to  
 copy the link to the URL field.

 Thinking about this a bit more, maybe it would make sense to copy  
 the first non-file: URL dropped on a reference to the URL field if  
 URL is a required/optional field for that type?  I know I'd find the  
 current behavior annoying if I was adding a bunch of web citations.

 -- 
 adam

That makes sense, and I've already added it.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 16 Apr 2008, at 11:55 AM, James Owen wrote:




 On 16 Apr 2008, at 11:39, Christiaan Hofman wrote:


 On 16 Apr 2008, at 10:26 AM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía wrote:

 Hi James,


 4: Last point about the sidebar.  I can now see attached files for  
 an
 item in the main database view, but if I drag and drop a PDF to that
 sidebar, it does not attach. I have to open the item edit window up,
 and drag the PDF into the sidebar there. Is that intended behaviour?
 I have been trying to link up a large number of PDFs to entries, and
 it would be nice to be able to do that in the main view, without
 opening each item.


 I am doing precisely the same action. What I do is to drag and drop
 the PDF file to the entry in the main database view. The PDF gets
 attached (and in my case autolinked and renamed).

 .
 The file view in the main window is for display only, you cannot add
 items there. Just as the main table is for display only. Note that it
 displays files for all the selected item, so there's no context to  
 add
 to. You should add linked files and URLs in the detail window for an
 item.

 Christiaan

 I see the logic to restrict editing to the edit window, but it
 involves several extra steps.

 For example, I run a search on a pdf page number getting one hit, or I
 have one entry selected in the main window, then the context would be
 that any linked files belong to that one hit, so adding to it would
 seem logical.
 As suggested, I can drag the PDF to the correct entry, which links the
 file etc.,  This is probably a good
 compromise between good visual UI (i.e. drag a PDF to the sidebar) and
 accuracy (make sure the PDF is linked to the correct entry).
 This saves having to:  select the one hit, open the edit window, drag
 and drop the PDF, close the edit window, which is a lot of extra  
 steps.

 James

You can link a file by dropping on the item, as has been possible for  
ages.

Christiaan



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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 16 Apr 2008, at 10:07 AM, James Owen wrote:

 I just downloaded and had a look at the latest nightly - 20080414.


 1:  In 1.3.14 I had accidentally closed the linked file view, and
 could not find any menu item to open it up again, had to find the
 sliders in the item view. However, there now seems to be a menu item
 in the View Menu to do this.

You can just drag or double-click the divider to open any side pane.

File views now can be in single column mode, which makes them  
automatically scale to fit. As the scale is determined by the width,  
you cannot zoom in that case and there is no slider. When the view is  
not in single column mode, you can zoom using the menu or using the  
slider that pops up when you move the mouse to the top or the bottom  
of the view. Vertical file views are in single column mode by default,  
horizontal ones not.



 2: The toolbar item Preview still links to the oldstyle Tex
 Preview, which I mentioned a month or so ago. I note that the item in
 the Window Menu now reads TeX Preview. The tool bar icon text needs
 to be changed to Tex Preview as well.
 As you now have menu items to Bottom Preview and Side Preview, do you
 want to have toolbar icons which control these? e.g. to open or close
 the side panel showing the linked files?


I think double clicking and moving the sidebars should be sufficient.  
It is just as easy.

 3: Also the size of the icons is controlled by the slider. With the
 icon view in Finder or in the Dock, holding down option makes the
 icons jump between set sizes, e.g. 32 x 32 and 64 x 64. A purely
 cosmetic feature, I know. I don't see any option to globally set the
 icon size anywhere in the menus or preferences.


Icon scales are remembered automatically per document, new documents  
use the last used scale. There is no need for a separate preference  
(this would be mostly ignored anyway). Also, there are no real needs  
for preset sizes in our preview, we're displaying previews not icons  
(mostly).

 4: Last point about the sidebar.  I can now see attached files for an
 item in the main database view, but if I drag and drop a PDF to that
 sidebar, it does not attach. I have to open the item edit window up,
 and drag the PDF into the sidebar there. Is that intended behaviour?
 I have been trying to link up a large number of PDFs to entries, and
 it would be nice to be able to do that in the main view, without
 opening each item.


See my other mail.

Christiaan

 Lots of detailed improvements, no bugs that I have noticed so far. I
 vote yes.


 James Owen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://homepage.mac.com/jhgowen/index.html





 On 10 Apr 2008, at 07:46, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 It's about time for another release, so make sure to beat up on the
 nightly builds.  I believe the release notes are up to date if you're
 curious about what's new.

 I just finished merging the DBLP search group in for the next nightly
 build as well, so maybe our Comp Sci users can try that out.  The
 nightly build Automator workflow just launched, so it should be up in
 ~20 minutes.

 -- 
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 16 Apr 2008, at 10:26 AM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía wrote:

 Hi James,


 4: Last point about the sidebar.  I can now see attached files for an
 item in the main database view, but if I drag and drop a PDF to that
 sidebar, it does not attach. I have to open the item edit window up,
 and drag the PDF into the sidebar there. Is that intended behaviour?
 I have been trying to link up a large number of PDFs to entries, and
 it would be nice to be able to do that in the main view, without
 opening each item.


 I am doing precisely the same action. What I do is to drag and drop  
 the PDF file to the entry in the main database view. The PDF gets  
 attached (and in my case autolinked and renamed).

 HTH,

 Cheers,


 Miguel


The file view in the main window is for display only, you cannot add  
items there. Just as the main table is for display only. Note that it  
displays files for all the selected item, so there's no context to add  
to. You should add linked files and URLs in the detail window for an  
item.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] moving to Leopard

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 16 Apr 2008, at 3:20 PM, Jacob Scheckman wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm a mechanical engineering graduate student, and a daily user of
 Bibdesk. It is a great product that has made my life unbelievably easy
 in beginning to write my thesis.
 I'm finally getting ready to upgrade to Leopard, but I want to make
 sure that I'll be able to smoothly move my reference library over from
 Tiger. This wouldn't be a big concern except for all of my linked
 files: essentially every reference has a pdf linked to it, so I want
 to be sure that these links won't be lost when I move everything.

There's no problem moving to Leopard. There is no difference, as  
Bibdesk uses almost only code that is valid both on 10.4 and 10.5.


 I see there is an export Bibtex and Papers archive option, which
 does save a copy of all of the pdfs, but when I open the
 References.bib file thats created, the links to the files are to the
 original copy, not the archive copy.

WFM. It should link to the archived copies, as it should search for  
relative paths first. However the backup alias reference will still  
point to the original file, as the archived copies don't exist at the  
time they're created (and moreover would only exist at a different  
location from where you unarchive). So if you move the .bib file (or  
the archived papers folder) before opening, it won't find the archived  
files and goes back to the originals. Are you sure you did not move  
the .bib file before you opened it?


 From what I've read in the documentation it seems like if I move the
 archived References folder to the new system, the links will be
 updated, but I'm not sure that this seems realistic to me. So I'm
 wondering if anybody has any suggestions or advice for me.
 thank you
 Jake


No need to archive. Just upgrade to Leopard, and BibDesk will work out  
of the box.

You can export an archive of everything just to make sure. But when  
you open that, make sure you keep the unarchived .bib file and  
unarchived linked papers in the same *relative* location (i.e. don't  
move one without moving the other). And after opening the .bib file,  
make sure you save it first to update the alias references. After  
that, it would be safe to move the .bib file.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Updating URL's

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 16 Apr 2008, at 2:48 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:


 On Apr 15, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 On Tuesday, April 15, 2008, at 02:09PM, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Adam M. Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:

 I am trying to add URL's to a bunch of records (about 100) and I am
 looking for the fastest way to do it.

 I see the following behavior:

 (1) I drag a link from Safari into the attachments well of a  
 record.
 The URL field does not change, even if I bring up the contextual
 menu
 in the attached files region where there is now an image of the web
 page and select replace URL. But when I save and quit BD, the URL
 field is filled in with the link dropped in. This may happen even
 without using the contextual menu; I haven't tested that out.

 I think Replace URL just allows you to edit the URL as a string,
 but it's still stored as Bdsk-Url-x.  I'm not sure why the URL field
 would be filled in by this, unless you have a script hook set up for
 that.



 I understand this now---the replace URL option is to replace the URL
 _in the attached files pane area_. So the URL field should not be
 expected to be filled in by this.


 As has been said here many times by now, the old URL fields are not
 supported anymore. They are treated just as string fields.

 Again: you should drag to the file icon view in the side pane.

 Depending on the bibliography requirements, that may not be
 sufficient.  If you're dealing with a type and/or style that
 requires the URL field to be printed out, you'll need to copy the
 link back to the URL field.  If you add those frequently, a script
 hook that fires on Add File or URL might be worth setting up to
 copy the link to the URL field.


 Right---this is what I am trying to do, to add to the BT record, not
 just to an attached file. But I would like the URL to show up in both
 places as well.

 I have about 100 of these that I need to add, and there doesn't seem
 to be any really good way to do it by way of a script or other text
 processing trick. It is totally unstructured text with no way of
 organizing it.

Note that you can use AppleScript or copy/paste to synchronize the  
linked URL and Url field. This works in both directions.

Christiaan



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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 16 Apr 2008, at 7:47 PM, James Howison wrote:

 Thanks Christian,

 On Apr 16, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
 First, be aware that URL handling has changed. In the past, sending  
 an
 open location apple event to BibDesk would just forward it to the
 system. Now, as BibDesk defines it's own URLs, those are handled by
 BibDesk. For http: URLs this will open them in the web group (not  
 your
 browser).

 The problem is that the URLs this script generates most of the time
 will be invalid, because it contains invalid characters like spaces.
 It could be that your browser corrected for this before (mine
 doesn't), but BibDesk does not.

 Hmmm, maybe that is why it failed sometimes, but it basically worked
 great.  I think that Safari/FireFox does auto-URL encode if it finds
 invalid chars in URLs. Try typing

 http://www.google.com/search?q=Hello World

 you'll get redirected to

 http://www.google.com/search?q=Hello%20World


Doesn't work with FF, but does work with Safari.

 I've just added that, so for the next
 nightly the script will work.

 Should the script be URL escaping the fields it gets from BibDesk?


That's the safest, though there is no simple way to do it in  
AppleScript. The next release will try to escape invalid characters.

 How will BibDesk know that it should open the http:// open URL with a
 browser (ie send to the open cmd) rather than trying to open it as a
 WebGroup?


BibDesk can't know, so it will always open in the web group.

 Should the script send the open location URL command directly to
 Finder?  I just tried that and it works well (ie delete the open
 location theURL line, then add this below the end tell (for BibDesk)
 line:

 tell application Finder
   open location theURL
 end tell

 --J

You can also simply add tell me to before open location.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

To Miguel and other users using the French localization, could you  
test out the latest nightly? The French UI should now work.


Thanks,
Christiaan

On 15 Apr 2008, at 10:28 PM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía wrote:

This is to confirm that when I uncheck French from the languages  
it works.

I will look into the localization requirements in the wiki.

Thank you very much!

Regards,

Miguel

2008/4/15, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On 15 Apr 2008, at 6:18 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:


 On Tuesday, April 15, 2008, at 09:06AM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 I was just opening, the problem appears when opening BibDesk  
version

 20080414
 And when I do the same, opening, with BibDesk 1.3.14 there is no
 problem.

 The French localization of the main window's nib is very broken.  I
 sent a message on this to the list, but it hasn't showed up yet;
 hence the cc: to the only two people who likely care about this
 exchange :).



Are you using the French localization? If so, please select the
BibDesk nightly in Finder, choose Get Info, make sure Languages is
expanded, and uncheck French.


Christiaan


 No, I don't think I have that gear button. And why should look for
 it at
 /Applications/BibDesk when I have BibDesk away from /Applications
 to my
 Desktop?

 Check the date/time on the error messages, and make sure they're
 from the same launch of the program.  I think it grabs the last 24
 hrs of log info, so the LSOpenFromURLSpec error might be from a
 previous launch.

 My question remains: if I have put aside all my preferences, how
 BibDesk
 knows about any broken linked file? It shouldn't even be aware of
 whether I
 have or not any library, isn't it? Obviously is reading it from
 another
 source that I'm not aware off, what could that be?

 You'll need to include the log messages here for context.  It's
 probably not doing what you think it's doing.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Using BibDesk search with cite in TextMate

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 20 Apr 2008, at 11:36 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:

 On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:25:37 +0200
 Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 20 Apr 2008, at 9:15 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Niels Kobschaetzki
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Hello,

 Somewhere I saw a video where after a cite command and some  
 initial
 characters ( \cite{con}) a BibDesk search is invoked to make the
 right
 selection for publication.

 How is this BibDesk-Search and Completion used within TextMate?

 You have to start writing the cite-key (at least one letter) and  
 then
 push escape until the wished cite-key appears. The other method is
 pushing opt+esc (alt+esc) and you get a nice menu with the cite- 
 keys
 and titles. This functions even w/out typing any character but the
 menu will be narrowed down if there is already the beginning of the
 cite-key typed.

 correction: it isn't narrowed down with the second option for  
 choosing
 your cite-key

 Niels

 Unless you are running 10.5, because (most) input managers are not
 supported anymore.

 Well, I'm on 10.5.2 and it works fine

 Niels

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Then you must have manually installed the input manager. Unless  
TextMate now includes this natively?

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

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We use that as the default when dragging template or tex or something.  
We need to display something representing the dragged items. As we  
don't know what the template does, displaying the templated output  
could be too big and possibly too slow. So that's not a bug.

Christiaan

On 21 Apr 2008, at 6:30 PM, James Harrison wrote:

 I've found what appears to be a problem in the current nightly
 (20080420); otherwise it seems fine in light general testing and
 fairly heavy testing with CiteInPages.

 When the preferences are set to use a template for the default copying
 and dragging format, the text during dragging shows the cite key in a
 ConTeXt style display (instead of the template) and an html
 representation of the full entry is dropped into the target document
 instead of the chosen template representation. Dragging TeX cite
 commands still works fine. Deleting and re-creating the template entry
 in the preferences does not help. Removing the plist file from the
 Preferences folder and re-creating the preferences for the template
 and drag format from scratch also does not help.

 OSX 10.5.2; Powerbook G4

 By the way, opening large bibliography files seems a bit faster. If
 this is true--nice job!

 Jim Harrison
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 21 Apr 2008, at 7:58 PM, James Harrison wrote:

 On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

 We use that as the default when dragging template or tex or  
 something.
 We need to display something representing the dragged items. As we
 don't know what the template does, displaying the templated output
 could be too big and possibly too slow. So that's not a bug.

 Christiaan

 On 21 Apr 2008, at 6:30 PM, James Harrison wrote:

 I've found what appears to be a problem in the current nightly
 (20080420); otherwise it seems fine in light general testing and
 fairly heavy testing with CiteInPages.

 When the preferences are set to use a template for the default
 copying
 and dragging format, the text during dragging shows the cite key  
 in a
 ConTeXt style display (instead of the template) and an html
 representation of the full entry is dropped into the target document
 instead of the chosen template representation. Dragging TeX cite
 commands still works fine. Deleting and re-creating the template
 entry
 in the preferences does not help. Removing the plist file from the
 Preferences folder and re-creating the preferences for the template
 and drag format from scratch also does not help.


 I just mentioned the appearance of the dragged text as an aside. I see
 that it was like that before. The problem is actually the second item
 mentioned above--sorry about the lack of clarity.

 The text inserted into the target document after a template drag
 based on the CiteInPages inTextCitation.txt template does not
 correspond to the template. Instead it is an html representation of
 the full entry. After a bit more testing, it appears that the template
 drag mechanism is broken in the current nightly such that only the
 default html template is used as an entry drag template, no matter
 what template is chosen.

 Jim Harrison
 UVa

Thanks Jim! In fact, it's interchanging the default and alternate  
template. I have it fixed.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] New user question

[Christiaan Hofman]

You're missing the @pubtype{ opening part of the item. That is very  
crucial for bibtex.

Christiaan

On 25 Apr 2008, at 8:07 AM, Michael Chanan wrote:

 My thanks to Adam and Ingrid for their replies to my query. I now  
 have a
 text file which looks like this:
 Author = {Ukadike, Nwachunkwu Frank},,Publisher = {University of
 California Press},,Title = {Black African Cinema},,Year =
 {1994},,Keywords = {African Cinema}}
 Does that look right?
 Problem is, it doesn't import - i.e. when I go to'open using  
 temporary cite
 key', the file in greyed out so you can't choose it. If you opt for  
 'open
 using filter', it recognises the file and you can choose, but then  
 says
 something about not recognising the filter and to test it in  
 Terminal, which
 I simply don't understand. (Perhaps I should add that I've been using
 computers for 25 years, including highly complex programmes like
 professional video editors, have just converted to Mac - I know, why  
 didn't
 I do it sooner? - but have no programming skills whatsoever.)

 Again, I should be grateful for any help.

 Michael Chanan



   5. Re: New user question (Adam R. Maxwell)
   6. Re: New user question (Ingrid Giffin)

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 I am a new user ? or thinking of it. What I need to know is this: I  
 have a
 bibliography already set up in Filemaker, which I would like to  
 import into
 BibDesk. Can I do this? If so, how? Grateful for any help.

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 On Apr 22, 2008, at 9:48 PM, Michael Chanan wrote:

 I am a new user ? or thinking of it. What I need to know is this: I
 have a bibliography already set up in Filemaker, which I would like
 to import into BibDesk. Can I do this? If so, how? Grateful for any
 help.

 Knowing nothing of Filemaker's capabilities, I can only make general
 suggestions.  If you can write your bibliography out in the plain  
 text
 BibTeX or RIS format, you can open it easily in BibDesk.

 A BibTeX entry looks like this:

 @type{citekey,
 author = {Ivan P. Freely and Bud Weiser},
 title = {If You Gotta Go, Go Now},
 keywords = {windmill, blue},
 year = {2010}
 }

 with additional field = value pairs inserted as necessary.  The  
 type
 is one of the standard BibTeX types (google for btxdoc.pdf for more
 info), and citekey can be any ASCII alphanumeric string (best to
 exclude punctuation; you can even use the same key for all entries  
 and
 generate a unique key in BibDesk).  Authors must be separated by  
 and.

 The RIS format is available on the web if you prefer that route;
 google should help you find that as well.

 I'd recommend writing the file as UTF-8 and reading it into BibDesk
 using the same encoding (set in BibDesk's Files preference pane or in
 the Open dialog).  Post back if you have questions!

 hth,
 adam


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 The programming gurus can no doubt give a more technical  
 explanation, but
 I?m a long-time Filemaker user, and this should not be difficult.  
 BibDesk
 imports plain text files as long as they are formatted with the  
 proper
 identifying tags. Filemaker can easily add tags to text by means of
 calculation fields.

 For instance: below is a copy of the BibTex record of a basic  
 article in
 BibDesk. Take the author field, as an example. If you have the  
 author?s name
 in Filemaker in First Name and Last Name fields, for example, you can
 concatenate that with a calculation field, and simultaneously wrap  
 the
 BibTex tag and punctuation around it, like so: ?Author = {?  
 +LastName + ?, ?
 + FirstName + ?},? .  Create a calculated field like that each of  
 the fields
 you want to export. Then do another calculated field that  
 concatenates all
 of the 1st-tier calculated fields, and wraps them with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
 symbol and
 the record type, such as ?article? or ?book? or whatever. Remember  
 the final
 ?}?. Then export that big super-concatenated field from all the  
 records you
 want, as a text file. That text can then be 

Re: [Bibdesk-users] texshop insert citations

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 28 Apr 2008, at 3:51 PM, Jaime Mejias wrote:


I am using texshop 2.15 on my macbook pro. Any script available to
insert citations from a bibtex file? or linking texshop to bibdesk?
Thanks

Jaime


You can try and install the input manager, located in BibDesk.app/ 
Contents/SharedSupport/BibDeskInputManager. But on Leopard you'll have  
to do it yourself and requires extra steps. See this blog http://blog.macromates.com/2007/inputmanagers-on-leopard/ 
 that also applies to BibDesk input manager. Otherwise you can use  
Services. Adam Maxwell has a patched version of TeXShop with build in  
support for BibDesk at http://homepage.mac.com/amaxwell/.Public/TeXShop.app.zip  
, but it's based on an older version of TeXShop. Dick Koch  
apparently will included this in a future version of TeXShop. For the  
rest I haven't heard about a script for TeXShop.


Christiaan

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

Not really. Most changes were fixes of last minute bug reports and  
improvements to accessibility. I hope the crasher Alex reported about  
editing fields was fixed, it was a bit a shot in the dark as I  
couldn't reproduce it.

Christiaan

On 28 Apr 2008, at 6:28 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 Please check the latest nightly; Christiaan, any focus areas for your
 changes last week?  I'll try to release 1.3.15 tonight or Wednesday
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 10.5 you single click the selected row to edit (click once to  
select, wait for at least the double-click time, and click again).  
This has nothing to do with BibDesk and everything with Leopard.

Christiaan

On 28 Apr 2008, at 9:05 PM, Alex Montgomery wrote:

 I haven't had a problem with the latest nightlies; I used to double-
 click to rename a field group, but that doesn't seem to work anymore.
 Hitting return or using the rename contextual menu does, though. +1
 from me.

 -AHM

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

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On 29 Apr 2008, at 11:18 AM, Alex Hamann wrote:

 just an observation with today's nightly:
 in the preview window switched to details

There's no details in the current nightly. Do you mean some default  
template preview?

 I see two little
 parenthesis after the titles. They are small and greyed out (same
 color as the cite key right above the title). I can not remember
 having seen those before. Is it intended?

It contains the publication type. It's always been there. Unless you  
messed with the template, it should never be empty (and never is for  
me).


 Also: Somehow I can not get the Authors to be listed in correct
 alphabetical order. It goes down correctly from A to Z and then a few
 items follow which are again sorted from A to Z. I tried with various
 bib files and it's always like this no matter what I try to get the
 sorting correctly.

 Alex


Where? If you mean in Authors field groups (left side pane), those are  
sorted mostly by last name (more precisely using lastname  
firstname). Always WFM. Perhaps there are some extra characters or  
accented characters in those names?

Christiaan

 Am 28.04.2008 um 18:28 schrieb Adam R. Maxwell:

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.15?

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On 29 Apr 2008, at 12:47 PM, Alex Hamann wrote:


 Am 29.04.2008 um 11:59 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:


 On 29 Apr 2008, at 11:18 AM, Alex Hamann wrote:

 just an observation with today's nightly:
 in the preview window switched to details

 There's no details in the current nightly. Do you mean some default
 template preview?

 Ok, sorry should have been more precise. I just called it details
 because that was the way it was used to be called. You are right: it
 is now  the default template preview.


 I see two little
 parenthesis after the titles. They are small and greyed out (same
 color as the cite key right above the title). I can not remember
 having seen those before. Is it intended?

 It contains the publication type. It's always been there. Unless you
 messed with the template, it should never be empty (and never is for
 me).

 Actually, you are right and now I remember it used to contain the
 publication type. I did not modify the templates, though. Whichever
 template I choose (default RTF, RTFD, Doc) those parenthesis are
 always empty.
 This is the what I found in my default rtf template in my preferences:
 ...
 $citeKey/
 $fields.Title/ ($type/)
 ...
 I have no clue why I had type instead of pubType here.
 Anyway, problem solved.


You apparently have a very old version of that template, the type  
key has long been deprecated. I advise you to reset your templates  
(you can do that either using the button in the Template preferences,  
or by removing the templates from Application Support and relaunching  
BibDesk).



 Also: Somehow I can not get the Authors to be listed in correct
 alphabetical order. It goes down correctly from A to Z and then a  
 few
 items follow which are again sorted from A to Z. I tried with  
 various
 bib files and it's always like this no matter what I try to get the
 sorting correctly.

 Alex


 Where? If you mean in Authors field groups (left side pane), those  
 are
 sorted mostly by last name (more precisely using lastname
 firstname). Always WFM. Perhaps there are some extra characters or
 accented characters in those names?

 Christiaan

 They are sorted by name. I found out what caused my problem. I have
 that column set to Author or Editor.  Apparently the sorting is
 done first for all items with authors going from a to z and than
 restarting with items having editors, again from sorting them from a
 to z.  Maybe that's the way it used to be all along? I never noticed
 it and I think it is not very intuitive.


 Alex



OK, you mean the column in the main table. That's right, they're  
sorted by field and name. The idea behind this is that using editor is  
a backup, so it's like filling in an empty. So it first sorts by the  
first choice (authors) then the second choice (editor) then third  
choice (empty).

Christiaan


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 Please check the latest nightly; Christiaan, any focus areas for
 your
 changes last week?  I'll try to release 1.3.15 tonight or Wednesday
 night (Pacific time) since last week obviously didn't work out.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] [ANN] BibDesk-1.3.15

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The Details preview does not exist anymore, it has been completely  
replaced by template based previews. the default template does not  
include the skim notes. If you want them you'll have to modify a  
default template or add a new one.

Christiaan

On 1 May 2008, at 7:16 PM, Daniel Loranz wrote:

 Just downloaded 1.3.15, and was wondering what happened to the Skim
 Notes that used to appear in what is now called the bottom preview  
 pane.

 My Skim notes are still there in Skim, but I don't see them in BibDesk
 anymore.

 Thanks.
 - Dan


 On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 The BibDesk developers are pleased to announce that BibDesk 1.3.15 is
 now available for download at http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net.  Users
 are encouraged to update and take advantage of the bug fixes and new
 features as soon as possible.

 Thanks again to our nightly build testers and others who provided
 feedback.  Please continue to file bug reports via the Help menu.
 Full release notes are available at 
 http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=61487release_id=596173
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] [ANN] BibDesk-1.3.15

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On 1 May 2008, at 8:08 PM, James Harrison wrote:


On May 1, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:


The Details preview does not exist anymore, it has been completely
replaced by template based previews. the default template does not
include the skim notes. If you want them you'll have to modify a
default template or add a new one.


For anyone interested, a template that includes Skim notes is
available at:

http://jhh.med.virginia.edu/main/TemplateNotes#journalTemplates

It's not the same as the old Details view (it doesn't show all data),
but is more compact.

Jim Harrison
UVa


Also, the old Details is almost the same as the default RTF template,  
with the following lines added just before the $/publication:


$localFiles?
Skim Notes
$localFiles
$URL.richTextSkimNotes/

/$localFiles
/$localFiles?

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] restrict side-pane to bottom half?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 1 May 2008, at 9:00 PM, James Howison wrote:

 Is there any way to have the side-pane (that for me shows the file
 thumbnails) sit at the side of the bottom-pane (for me the details
 section), rather than extending all the way up beside the table view?

No.

 I'd like to have more space to see the columns in the table view
 (especially the container column), and I have plenty of space in the
 details pane (and don't mind the content in there wrapping).  Perhaps
 because I have only a few (3 max?) files for a reference there is lots
 of unused real-estate at the bottom of the thumbnails pane.

 Mockup screen-shot here:

 http://freelancepropaganda.com/temp/sidePaneAsSideOfBottomPane.png

 I'm suggesting having the pane on the right only extend up as far as
 the divider between the table-view and the details (so that it would
 actually be in the bottom right.  That makes sense to me since the top
 half of the screen is then the library, and the bottom half is 'things
 specific to the selection'.  The thumbnails pane does aggregate the
 attachments in the case of multiple selection, just as the details
 pane does (which is cool).

 Was that considered and found not to work?

 Thanks,
 James


In fact, an important point about having the side pane is to have the  
pane at the side, to make use of current wide screens. As was  
requested and motivated by several users on this list. And to get  
things at the bottom is precisely why you can have either the files or  
the preview at the bottom.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.16?

[Christiaan Hofman]

+1 from me.

Christiaan

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 I've gotten half a dozen exception reports due to the preference bug
 in the French localization, so I'd like to get 1.3.16 out early next
 week before any new features start creeping in.  If you've noticed any
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] recommended way to add Doi?

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On 5 May 2008, at 1:38 AM, James Howison wrote:

 I just added Doi as a default field in my library.  Quite a few
 references already had it.  I created a new reference and copied in a
 value for the Doi field in the Edit window.

 I was surprised that it didn't show up in the Files section, because
 those items that had a Doi now had a link to the dx.doi.org resolver.
 Adding the Doi column did give me a clickable link.

 I tested a bit in a new bibliography and if I closed the bib then re-
 opened it I got the 'migration' dialog pane, and once I said Convert
 the Doi link showed up in the Files pane.

 The same happens for URL (or Eprints fields), so I assume this is
 about fields typed Remote URL.


Yes, automatic conversion takes place only for when items that don't  
have linked objects yet are added (either through import or by opening  
a file). There is no reliable way to do that otherwise, or you'd get a  
lot of duplicates. And you can always convert manually. It's also  
meant mainly for migration to the new system, as the URL fields are  
mostly deprecated.

 So is there a recommended way to add Doi so that the library doesn't
 have to be 'converted' again to have them show up in the Files pane?

 For URLs (starting with http:) I can simply paste into the Files pane,
 but this doesn't work when one has a Doi on the pasteboard (I guess
 because it doesn't start with Doi). (since DOIs aren't URLs how would
 one sniff that one has a DOI?)

That's the big question, and we don't know.


 I find it a little non-intuitive that simply adding a URL to the URL
 field or a string to the Doi field, after one has converted one's
 library doesn't add them to the Files pane.


Remember they're deprecated, and deprecated functionality is not  
supposed to work intuitively.

 Thx,
 James

 ps. I think implementing the paste into File Area for DOI might be
 hard since there is no easy way to tell that a string is a DOI:

 http://info-uri.info/registry/OAIHandler?verb=GetRecordmetadataPrefix=regidentifier=info:doi/


Exactly, that's why it can't be done. It also shows what the use of a  
scheme is. A DOI is actually pretty stupid.

Christiaan

 The syntax of the DOI string is: DIR.REG/DSS
 where
 DIR is the Directory Code assigned by the International DOI
 Foundation,
 REG is the Registrant Code assigned to the Registrant by the
 International DOI
 Foundation, and
 DSS is the DOI Suffix String which is assigned by the Registrant.
 There is no limit on the length of a DOI string, or any of its
 components.
 Legal characters are the legal graphic characters of Unicode.

 so AFAICS one could only test to see whether it matches this regex:

 .+\..+\/.+

 ouch.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Incorrect encoding warning (v.1.3.16)

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On 8 May 2008, at 12:28 AM, Jung-Tsung Shen wrote:

 I downloaded the latest version v. 1.3.16 to replace v. 1.3.14 just
 now. Every time I opened the program, a warning message popped up,
 saying

 Incorrect encoding

 The document will be opened with encoding Unicode (UTF-8), but it was
 previously saved with encoding Western (ASCII). YOu should cancel
 opening and then reopen with the correct encoding.

 I tried the cancel, reopen, and ignore options, but the warning
 message popped up again.

 What should I do?

 Thanks.

 JT

Does the default encoding in the Files preferences say UTF-8 for you  
now? If so, you can just choose Ignore, and then use Save As...,  
choosing UTF-8 from the encoding popup in the save panel. You can just  
overwrite the old version. After that you should be OK. Alternatively,  
you can go to the Files preferences and choose ASCII as the default  
encoding to open and save files. It depends on if you ever want to be  
able to use non-ASCII characters in the file.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] What is your workflow?

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On 8 May 2008, at 4:44 PM, James Owen wrote:



On 6 May 2008, at 20:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi There,
I am sorry to bother you, but I found myself rather lost when using  
Bibdesk. I truly love it, and I am physicist/chemist using BibTeX  
for quite some time, but I am fairly new to mac and to Bibdesk. I  
would like to ask, if you can somehow search Web of science. Or, if  
you can't, how you at least import stuff you already found? What is  
(or should be) the typical workflow?


In my case, it's so: I find my papers, using safari/camino browser,  
download them to a folder, give them some stupid name, which  
doesn't follow well-thought pattern, then close browser and open  
them in Preview and copy and paste author,title and other fields to  
Bibdesk, where I end up filing new local url for corresponding pdf  
file. It's rather slow and frankly annoying.


I bet it can do better. Can you please kick me in the right  
direction?


My workflow is:

go to journal e.g. Phys. Rev. B, find article. Download pdf.  
Meanwhile, at the button marked article options, select view  
bibtex. (Other journals do this differently, but get yourself to  
the same state.) This goes to a new browser page with the bibtex  
entry for the paper. Shade the bibtex.


Go to apple menu, top left, scroll down to Services. First entry is  
BibDesk, across to add to Bibliography. Selected bibtex from  
webpage is parsed, and added to currently open Bibdesk archive. Drag  
and drop pdf from downloads folder to sidebar of Bibdesk item  
window, which has automatically opened on import, which then  
autofiles the pdf to your preferred pdfs folder. This is then  
searchable in Spotlight, and a link to the journal webpage is then  
available, via the URL or the DOI from the bibtex.



However, for some reason, BibDesk is no longer putting the contents  
of the doi: field into the Doi: field in my bibtex archive.  It used  
to, before 1.3.15. is there some problem with case sensitivity? If I  
added a doi field as well as a Doi field, would that work? It  
seems to know that it is a DOI, as when I paste in the DOI, a link  
appears in the sidebar to dx.doi.org/DOI.


James


That question has been answered several times on this list, including  
very recently.


Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] New to BibDesk

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On 8 May 2008, at 5:12 PM, Josh wrote:

 Hi,

 my name is Josh, and I just moved from Linux to MacOSX Leopard.  
 Before I
 used Jabref, but BibDesk just seems to a much better choice. Having a
 large bibtex file already, I had Jabref automatically generate my
 bibtex-keys. Let me show the differences with an example:

 Jabref:  Hulse2004Structureandfunction
 BibDesk:  Hulse2004Structure-and-function-of-evolved

 Although in both cases I configured to use the first 3 words of the
 title. Two things I would like to ask:

 1. Can I convince BibDesk not to use the - which is undesirable with
 the editor that i use. Autocompletion only works until the end of a
 word, not including -


No, that's not supported. All the rules are listed in the appendix in  
the Help.

 2. Can i convince BibDesk to count every word, so that my bibtex  
 file is
 compatible with my old papers?

 Thank in advance,
 Josh

Yes, use %T[0].

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] New to BibDesk

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On 8 May 2008, at 10:32 PM, Josh wrote:

 Hi Christiaan,

 thanks for the quick reply.

 1. Can I convince BibDesk not to use the - which is undesirable  
 with
 the editor that i use. Autocompletion only works until the end of a
 word, not including -
 No, that's not supported. All the rules are listed in the appendix in
 the Help.

 for me this is bad, because i cant use the autocompletion function of
 vim. is it planed for the future to make it optional?

No. The limit of possible options has already been reached (if not  
excessed).



 2. Can i convince BibDesk to count every word, so that my bibtex
 file is
 compatible with my old papers?

 Yes, use %T[0].

 i think i was misunderstood. what i meant is that if i use %T3, that  
 all
 words are counted, i.e. that and is counted as word as in the  
 example
 i gave for jabref:

 Jabref:   Hulse2004Structureandfunction
 BibDesk:  Hulse2004Structure-and-function-of-evolved

 in both cases, the tool was asked to use the first three words of the
 title. jabref counts every word as a word, bibdesk omits the words  
 and
 and of.

 cheers,
 josh

And that's exactly what I understood and gave an answer to. The number  
between brackets gives the maximum size of words not to count. By  
default this is 3, but by setting it to 0 all words are counted.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] What is your workflow?

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On 9 May 2008, at 12:14 AM, Robin wrote:

 On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:41 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi There,
 I am sorry to bother you, but I found myself rather lost when using  
 Bibdesk.
 I truly love it, and I am physicist/chemist using BibTeX for quite  
 some
 time, but I am fairly new to mac and to Bibdesk. I would like to  
 ask, if you
 can somehow search Web of science. Or, if you can't, how you at  
 least import
 stuff you already found? What is (or should be) the typical workflow?

 In my case, it's so: I find my papers, using safari/camino browser,  
 download
 them to a folder, give them some stupid name, which doesn't follow
 well-thought pattern, then close browser and open them in Preview  
 and copy
 and paste author,title and other fields to Bibdesk, where I end up  
 filing
 new local url for corresponding pdf file. It's rather slow and  
 frankly
 annoying.

 I bet it can do better. Can you please kick me in the right  
 direction?

 Yours,
 Jirka C.

 I just thought I'd add, since I haven't seen it mentioned yet, that
 Google Scholar has an option to display BibTex for results. Go to
 Scholar Preferences and select Show links to import citations in
 Bibtex.

 So my workflow is usually to search the title and or author: field in
 google scholar (where I often find the paper anyway), click on the
 appropriate citation, copy it and paste it into Bibdesk (although I
 will check out the Services menu after the tip in this thread).

 The entries from Google can be of mixed quality - but it's certainly
 enough for maintaining your own archive. I've found some
 inconsistencies in journal abbreviations, author names etc. that need
 to be cleaned up before publication (ie proof read the typeset
 bibliography carefully) but overall I find it a major time saver.

 After downloading I add the file (easy to find whatever name the
 archive gives it since it's most the most recently downloaded) to the
 new entry in bibdesk and let it autofile.

 Most of the papers I read aren't in pubmed and I find login's/proxies
 for web of science and other university paid for services more
 inconvenient so I find this the easiest way.

 Cheers

 Robin

Be aware that support for Google Scholar is already build right into  
BibDesk. If you search Google Scholar in the web group, importing a  
match is just a single click away.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] New to BibDesk

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On 9 May 2008, at 12:55 AM, Josh wrote:

 Hi Christiaan, Hi Maxwell,

 first of all, you were right, the T[0]3 worked, had only tried T[0].

 then, concerning the script. i will do so. there is a nice Perl-BibTeX
 package with which i have some experience already. but before  
 writing a
 script, i hoped this would be possible in bibdesk. as a computer
 scientist, i didnt believe it would be so hard to implement, add, or
 even be there already. the - had to be added by the programmer, so  
 why
 not make it optional?

 after all, its not that handy to always remember calling that script.
 but on the other hand, bibdesk has many advantages compared to jabref,
 so its worth the little extra effort.

 cheers,
 josh


Adam was talking about a script hook, which is an AppleScript that is  
called automatically after a particular action (e.g. after auto-file).  
They can be attached in the Script Hook preference pane. Some examples  
on writing a script hook are given in the Help, and on the Wiki.

And it's not about it being hard, it's about being limited in the  
available options we can provide. Remember, more options means less  
user friendly. I guess you wouldn't like having a preference window  
the size of your screen or larger filled with checkboxes and radio  
buttons (which we'd have if we would grant every request on this list,  
even with just the reasonable ones). I hope you can appreciate this.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] What is your workflow?

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On 9 May 2008, at 10:17 AM, James Owen wrote:


 However, for some reason, BibDesk is no longer putting the contents
 of the doi: field into the Doi: field in my bibtex archive.  It
 used to, before 1.3.15. is there some problem with case
 sensitivity? If I added a doi field as well as a Doi field,
 would that work? It seems to know that it is a DOI, as when I paste
 in the DOI, a link appears in the sidebar to dx.doi.org/DOI.


 I am still getting used to BD's new behavior myself, but it sounds
 like you intend to copy the doi to a doi field, rather than (or in
 addition to) using it as a linked file. I am not sure it with 1.3.15
 when the change occurred, but BD, as you probably know, now handles
 links and attached files independently of the url and doi fields.

 Yes, I realise that, but what I hadn't realised was that BibDesk
 actually deletes the URL and DOI fields if they are present in
 imported bibtex.



 In general, the behavior seems to be that if you drop a link or doi
 onto a record, it will be handled as an attached file, and put into
 the attached files pane.

 If you want the doi or url to get into the doi or url field, you
 have to copy it there yourself.

 Actually, if the doi is present as a field in the bibtex you are
 importing, BibDesk will put it in the DOI field for you.

 I am sure that Christiaan will not know whether to laugh or cry if I
 haven't got this right, as I have asked many similar questions here
 as well, which have received excellent answers.

 Having written a long email explaining the problem, I have found the
 solution, which as far I as can tell from the archives, has not been
 given previously.
 When you run the Convert script, there are options to Keep the legacy
 fields. Now if you go to
 Default Fields Preferences in the Preferences, there are buttons to
 set the global behaviour, which
 seems to set as Default to Remove the legacy fields. (I guess this is
 Default as I have never set it.)


This definitely has been discussed. In fact this option in the prefs  
was added as a result of such a discussion, and I've mentioned that I  
added these options in that discussion.

The setting sin the prefs allow you to choose either one of these  
behaviors:
- keep only the fields
- keep only the linked files/URLs
- keep both

I wonder if there should be an option to keep standard fields  
(required/optional fields) and remove others.

 I would ask strongly that if it is currently default to remove the
 legacy fields from the raw bibtex, that this
 be changed to keep them, for the reasons I gave in my previous email,
 notably interoperability with other people not using BibDesk, which
 sadly in my institute is nearly everybody, as there are few Macs.


The default behavior is *not* to remove the legacy fields. You can  
check this by launching BibDesk after removing the preferences at ~/ 
Library/Preferences/edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk.plist (I just did).  
So you must have changed that setting at some point, perhaps without  
knowing what it was doing.

Christiaan


 The DOI field is very important to me, as I use it in html templates,
 and also it is a quick thing to drop into Spotlight to find a paper,
 which quite often it turns out I do. I have about 630 papers in my
 main database, and I am gradually throwing away all other PDFs. Often
 I find I have 3-4 duplicates, in different places. So the file linking
 is as crucial to BibDesk as it is to iTunes. Imagine having to go
 track down an MP3 file that iTunes said you had somewhere.
 The import Service, and/or the drag-and-drop import from Websites,
 the use of an aux file to select items, which can then be exported to
 make a subsidiary bibtex file, and especially the new URL handling and
 file linking in the sidebar, are all things that totally amazes
 people. My old boss took one look at me doing this, and asked how to
 get the program for his research group, and recently a colleague, who
 has just inherited a MacBook having come from Linux, put it this way :
 Oooh, that's very, very, very nice.
 Nifty.
 tee hee. You don't even have to drop the PDF onto the window - just
 select the line in the library window
 Oh this is going to make things *so* much easier
 Now I need a Mac desktop for work. Sigh...

 So BibDesk is definitely selling Macs to people in the science
 community. ;-)


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] New to BibDesk

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On 9 May 2008, at 10:56 AM, Josh wrote:

 Welcome to Macintosh :).  In this case, you have a legitimate  
 problem with

 thanks :) never thought that it would get me hocked so fast.  
 especially
 after working on linux for more than a decade.

 the dash (which sounds like a bug in vim).  Be that as it may, it is
 impossible to fulfill every request for a GUI option; TeX users are
 incredibly hard to satisfy.

 its not really a bug in vim. i could convince vim to also use dashes  
 and
 other signs when autocompleting. but i dont know to well about that,  
 and
 especially the side effect.

 Hence, BibDesk has excellent AppleScript support, and will run  
 script hooks
 automatically on common actions so you can do whatever you want.   
 This
 removes limitations for motivated users and avoids cluttering the UI.

 true. i will go for the applescript solution first. is there a
 repository for bibdesk-applescripts, where i could submit it? i know  
 at
 least one other scientist personally, who is thinking about switching
 form jabref to bibdesk. so may be there is a bigger interest in such a
 script.


http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/BibDesk_Applescripts

Christiaan



 Also, in a previous message you said that you wanted to keep  
 compatibility
 with previous files.  If you let BibDesk automatically generate  
 cite keys
 for newly added references, this isn't a problem.  Just don't  
 manually
 generate new keys for the entire document.

 true, but i sometime forget to check the entry, and then just
 re-autogenerate them all. and its simply cleaner to have all bibtex- 
 keys
 alike.

 cheers,
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] preferences for preview pane?

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The font is determined by the template used by the preview. So you can  
edit the template file, just making the font larger. To edit the  
template file, go to the template preference, click the triangle in  
front of the template name you want to change to expand, and double  
click the file name for the template (or use the contextual menu). the  
default templates are all located in ~/Library/Application Support/ 
BibDesk/Templates/. You can also download the latest nightly build for  
BibDesk, which allows you to scale the preview.

Christiaan

On 9 May 2008, at 4:51 PM, M A wrote:

 How do I set preferences for what is shown in the preview pane (ie the
 part of the window below the table of all my publications)? In
 particular, how can I make the font larger? It used to be that I could
 go into BibDesk's preferences and under the Display preferences I
 could select something for Preview Pane Display (e.g. Details, Annot,
 PDF, etc) and under Fonts I could change the font for the Preview
 pane. My main interest is in changing the font to a larger size to
 make it easier for me to read all the information (particularly the
 abstract) for a selected publication. In 1.3.16 I don't have a
 Preview pane option under the Change font for: preference. I do
 see the new icons on the bottom bar of the preview pane that allow me
 to select a template, or to choose to a preview of the latex, but I
 can't see how to alter the font.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.17?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 11 May 2008, at 12:55 PM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía wrote:


I use the French localization on OS X.4.11.
No problems found with 20080510, I can select multiple records, open  
them, import from PubMed, import PDF files by drag-and-dropping into  
records, and all the normal use I do...


So +1 from here.

Just noticed that the Help doesn't work... but had never tried  
before, I tend to look for help in the wiki.




That's not good. In fact, it seems to fail even in the latest  
release(s). Still, the Help is there in the French localization,  
including the index file, an withy the correct help book name. So  
everything is setup correctly.


So that should be -1, unfortunately.

Christiaan

Please, keep suporting X.4 :-) not many chances to upgrade my little  
iBook G4 to X.5...


Best regards,


Miguel

2008/5/11 Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyone using the French localization testing the latest nightlies?

Christiaan

On 11 May 2008, at 1:43 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

 I haven't had any problems with 1.3.16, so +1 from me.

 -Adam G

 On May 10, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 Hi all,

 Once again, 1.3.16 turned out to have a few more bugs than we (or  
at

 least I) hoped, and I ended up with a dozen exception reports in my
 inbox last week.  I believe all of those bugs have been fixed,  
plus a

 few others.

 Anyone have a problem with getting 1.3.17 out this week?  I know a
 few
 people will complain about too-frequent releases, but I personally
 believe crashes are more inconvenient than downloading a new  
version.


 As a side note, 10.4 support is gradually worsening, since it's not
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.17?

[Christiaan Hofman]

Yes, I know. But I haven't got the faintest clue as to what's wrong.  
Even if I completely replace the French help folder with a copy of the  
English one, it fails (though they should be identical in the first  
place). Also the menu action for the help is correct. So even though  
the French and English help are identical to every detail, the French  
one fails. I'd say it's a system bug, if it were not that it does work  
in other applications with identical help book layout.


Christiaan

On 11 May 2008, at 5:07 PM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía wrote:

Just to confirm that if I turn off French localization, help works,  
so it's as you say, a problem with this localization. Sorry not to  
have checked before.


Cheers,


Miguel

2008/5/11 Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On 11 May 2008, at 12:55 PM, Miguel Ortiz-Lombardía wrote:


I use the French localization on OS X.4.11.
No problems found with 20080510, I can select multiple records,  
open them, import from PubMed, import PDF files by drag-and- 
dropping into records, and all the normal use I do...


So +1 from here.

Just noticed that the Help doesn't work... but had never tried  
before, I tend to look for help in the wiki.




That's not good. In fact, it seems to fail even in the latest  
release(s). Still, the Help is there in the French localization,  
including the index file, an withy the correct help book name. So  
everything is setup correctly.


So that should be -1, unfortunately.

Christiaan

Please, keep suporting X.4 :-) not many chances to upgrade my  
little iBook G4 to X.5...


Best regards,


Miguel

2008/5/11 Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyone using the French localization testing the latest nightlies?

Christiaan

On 11 May 2008, at 1:43 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

 I haven't had any problems with 1.3.16, so +1 from me.

 -Adam G

 On May 10, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 Hi all,

 Once again, 1.3.16 turned out to have a few more bugs than we  
(or at
 least I) hoped, and I ended up with a dozen exception reports in  
my
 inbox last week.  I believe all of those bugs have been fixed,  
plus a

 few others.

 Anyone have a problem with getting 1.3.17 out this week?  I know a
 few
 people will complain about too-frequent releases, but I personally
 believe crashes are more inconvenient than downloading a new  
version.


 As a side note, 10.4 support is gradually worsening, since it's  
not

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] small change for wiki useability

[Christiaan Hofman]

Unfortunately PHP is provided to us by SourceForge, the only thing we  
can do is file enhancement requests to upgrade to PHP 5. Same for SQL.


Christiaan

On 13 May 2008, at 8:48 PM, Rob Rye wrote:



In my experience, the wiki upgrade itself is indeed very easy. I  
just checked your version information though and I see that you are  
running against PHP4 and MySQL 4, as would be expected with MW1.4.  
MySQL4 is ok, though I believe MySQL5 is preferable at this point.  
PHP4 is a non-starter for MediaWiki 1.12. In fact, I am not sure,  
but I seem to remember that by the time I installed 1.9 on my  
machines it already required PHP5.


Having done both (MW, PHP) of these installations myself before on  
several machines, I would be willing to do what is necessary (but  
probably not before tomorrow at the earliest). However, I am a  
really a geology professor masquerading as a System Administrator. I  
have never messed up my own systems in several years of regular  
updates, upgrades, etc., but a great many things can depend on PHP.  
So, be warned that it could take me a while to get everything just  
the way you want it. On the other hand, if PHP5 is already  
installed, and just has to be called during the MW upgrade, then I  
am certainly game.


It occurs to me to point out that all my experience is on MacOS and  
MacOS X. Nonetheless, given the Unix flavor of both, I would guess  
that I would have no trouble doing what needed doing if the wiki is  
on a Linux box. A shell is a shell is a shell...


Even if you get someone else to set up MW1.12, I would also be happy  
to discuss installing various wiki extensions, if desired. None  
strike me as critical, but several might be useful depending on the  
ambitions of the main editors of the wiki. I have what might be  
called a hobbyists version of extensive experience installing and  
configuring MW extensions and would be happy to participate in any  
discussion of what might be useful as well as helping out with the  
installation. I have not been a major participant on this list, but  
I read it every day and make extensive use of BibDesk, so I suppose  
this could be my way of contributing to the community.


Cheers,

Rob



OK, I spoke too soon. It looks like that's not easy in the version of
MediaWiki we're running - we are using 1.4.3 and the current version
is 1.12.

I'm a little surprised that it survived that long.

Anyway, I don't have the time to do an upgrade right now, but it'd
probably only take ~2 hours or less. If anyone is interested in doing
that, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
and we can figure out how to get shell access working to do it.

Thanks,
-mike

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Michael McCracken
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Hey Derick. It shall be done!
 I'll figure out how and either promote you to let you do it or make
 the change myself.

 Thanks,
 -mike



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Would it be possible to update the wiki so that the links  
displayed in

 the sidebar on the L include the items listed under What's on the
 Wiki?  I have a BD wiki account but I couldn't figure out how  
to do
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From: Andrei Sobolevskii [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: May 13, 2008 8:58:30 AM PDT
To: For general discussion about using BibDesk bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net 


Subject: [Bibdesk-users] crash report procedure
Reply-To: For general discussion about using BibDesk bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net 




Hi,

Sorry for an obvious FAQ (I searched the bibdesk-users archive but  
the results were mixed):


How does one report Bibdesk crashes?

I just sent a crash log to [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
but there seem no messages on the list's archive after July 2007.   
Is that list discontinued?


Would it make sense to put the address for crash reports into the  
standard signature at the bottom?


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Fwd: Black square appearing sometimes

[Christiaan Hofman]

This is strange, and I cannot reproduce it. Is this on Tiger? It could  
be a system bug. The spinner overlay should automatically resize with  
the preview area (and it does os for me).

Christiaan

On 13 May 2008, at 8:41 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

 A small black square or line sometimes appears in BD. It appears  
 when the TeX preview pane at the bottom of the main window is  
 reduced in size to a height of 0. It looks like it's the spinner  
 indicating that the preview is being formed, appearing against a  
 black background. If you look really closely at the attached png,  
 you can see it.

 BD: 1.3.16 (1114); Leopard

 -Adam G.

 PS Sorry if this has been fixed in recent nightlies. I am a little  
 bit behind. This bug only comes up rarely though so I thought it  
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Collecting citations from aux file broken?

[Christiaan Hofman]

The .aux file has all kinds of other commands in between the \bibcite  
ones, and bibdesk does not like that. I just changed that so it will  
just ignore those lines.

Christiaan

On 14 May 2008, at 12:51 PM, jiho wrote:

 Hello all,

 This thread on the mailing list
   
 http://www.mail-archive.com/bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00665.html
 revealed the neat trick of dropping an aux file on the main table to
 collect all citations in that aux file. I would need something like
 this and I tried it today with bibdesk 1.3.16 (1114) and only 13
 citations were selected while I cite  300. All help would be
 appreciated to figure out what's wrong. The aux file and the bib file
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   http://jo.irisson.free.fr/dropbox/Archive.zip

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk Integration with Microsoft Word

[Christiaan Hofman]

Thanks Colin,

I'm not using Word myself, but I know more users would find this  
helpful! Would you want to link this on the BibDesk Wiki?

Christiaan

On 14 May 2008, at 7:37 AM, Colin A. Smith wrote:

 With no other reference managers currently supporting Microsoft Word
 2008 (to my knowledge), I thought this would be a good time to release
 an AppleScript project I've been pecking away at for a while. It is a
 set of two AppleScripts that provide BibDesk integration with
 Microsoft Word 2004/2008 in a fashion similar to another popular
 reference manager. That is, you can insert citations using BibTeX
 syntax, create a bibliography with in-text numbers, then revert the  
 in-
 text citations back to the BibTeX syntax for editing. The project is
 called BibFuse and its web site is:

 http://bibfuse.sourceforge.net/

 The most important document on the currently bare-bones web site is
 the Read Me file. That has information about installation and usage.
 The feature set isn't the greatest in the world, but I was able to
 publish a paper using it. I'm extremely open to input from others as I
 don't have a lot of time myself. I'll give anyone commit access to the
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] votes on 1.3.17?

[Christiaan Hofman]

everything should be fine. I updated the release notes.

Christiaan

On 15 May 2008, at 12:31 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 Is everything (still) in shape for a release?  My hotel has a nice
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk Integration with Microsoft Word

[Christiaan Hofman]

It seems to me you can just use another template. You can write a  
citation template in the template editor. It does not allow you to  
export as .doc, but you can either create a .doc template and simply  
paste the result of a plain text template in it, or you could convert  
a rich text template to .doc.


A simple template (only for articles) probably looks something like  
this (probably the line gets broken):


$publications
 
$ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ 
. $fields.Journal/, $fields.Year/ $fields.Volume/,  
$field.Pages/.


/$publication

Christiaan

On 15 May 2008, at 2:04 PM, Daniele Pontillo wrote:

What a preciuous applescript! Is there any way that citations could  
match the vancouver style, i.e. Lastname, Firstname initials.  
Journal, Year Volume, pages. ?

Il giorno 14/mag/08, alle ore 07:37, Colin A. Smith ha scritto:


With no other reference managers currently supporting Microsoft Word
2008 (to my knowledge), I thought this would be a good time to  
release

an AppleScript project I've been pecking away at for a while. It is a
set of two AppleScripts that provide BibDesk integration with
Microsoft Word 2004/2008 in a fashion similar to another popular
reference manager. That is, you can insert citations using BibTeX
syntax, create a bibliography with in-text numbers, then revert the  
in-

text citations back to the BibTeX syntax for editing. The project is
called BibFuse and its web site is:

http://bibfuse.sourceforge.net/

The most important document on the currently bare-bones web site is
the Read Me file. That has information about installation and usage.
The feature set isn't the greatest in the world, but I was able to
publish a paper using it. I'm extremely open to input from others  
as I
don't have a lot of time myself. I'll give anyone commit access to  
the

SVN repository if they ask.

I hope people find this useful. Please let me know if you do!

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Download bibtex from Spires

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On 16 May 2008, at 2:03 PM, Mukund Rangamani wrote:


Hello,

I have been using Christiaan Hoffman's script to download bibtex data
for arxiv eprints. Since v1.3.15 (I think) the script Download Bibtex
returns the following error.

Error: 712. Failed to change BibTeX info for 0805.2261. Cannot set
property of external publication.



That should be fixed with the next nightly.

Or in the BibDesk Download script in the function downloadBibTeX change:

	set newPub to make new publication with properties {BibTeX  
string:theBibTeXString} at end of publications


to:
set newPub to make new publication at end of publication
set BibTeX string of newPub to theBibTeXString


Can someone please suggest a fix for this as I find the scripts very
convenient? Also, while I am at it, would it be possible for the
script to fill in the Bibtex data from Spires in the Eprint field --
my current strategy is to populate the Eprint field by hand and ask
the script to get the rest of the data; it would be nice if the script
would override my Eprint number with the full Eprint information, say
replace
0805.2261 with arXiv: 0805.2261 [hep-th] in the above example as that
would make things simpler while referencing.

Best wishes,
Mukund


It's possible, but I don't want to add this to the script. It adds  
some dependencies, and not everyone would want to do it. You can  
easily change the BibDesk Download script yourself to do it. In the  
function downloadBibTeX, just change:


	repeat with fieldName in {Author, Title, Journal, Volume,  
Pages, Year}

set fieldName to contents of fieldName
try
set value of field fieldName to ¬
(get value of field fieldName of newPub)
end try
end repeat
set value of field Eprint to theEprint

to:

set value of field Eprint to theEprint
	repeat with fieldName in {Author, Title, Journal, Volume,  
Pages, Year, Eprint}

set fieldName to contents of fieldName
try
set theValue to get value of field fieldName of newPub
if theValue ≠  then ¬
set value of field fieldName to theValue
end try
end repeat

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Download bibtex from Spires

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Are you sure it's giving you an error 712? I don't see any reference  
to a theFile variable in that block.

Christiaan

On 19 May 2008, at 8:57 AM, Mukund Rangamani wrote:

 Dear Christiaan,

 Thanks! I tried to change the script as you suggested below, and it
 works fine when I have just the Eprint filled in. However, if I try to
 update an older entry into BibDesk (one which has other fields filled
 in from Spires), I get the same 712 Error; this time the problem is
 that a variable called theFile is not defined. I must confess that I
 haven't had time to play with the applescript.

 That should be fixed with the next nightly.
 Or in the BibDesk Download script in the function downloadBibTeX  
 change:
 set newPub to make new publication with properties {BibTeX
 string:theBibTeXString} at end of publications
 to:
 set newPub to make new publication at end of publication
 set BibTeX string of newPub to theBibTeXString

 It's possible, but I don't want to add this to the script. It adds  
 some
 dependencies, and not everyone would want to do it. You can easily  
 change
 the BibDesk Download script yourself to do it. In the function
 downloadBibTeX, just change:
 repeat with fieldName in {Author, Title, Journal, Volume,  
 Pages,
 Year}
 set fieldName to contents of fieldName
 try
 set value of field fieldName to ￢
 (get value of field fieldName of newPub)
 end try
 end repeat
 set value of field Eprint to theEprint
 to:
 set value of field Eprint to theEprint
 repeat with fieldName in {Author, Title, Journal, Volume,  
 Pages,
 Year, Eprint}
 set fieldName to contents of fieldName
 try
 set theValue to get value of field fieldName of newPub
 if theValue ≠  then ￢
 set value of field fieldName to theValue
 end try
 end repeat

 This is very useful; I will try to implement this for myself once I
 get around the previous stumbling block.

 Thanks and best wishes,
 Mukund

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] SPIRES support in BibDesk

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There are no plans in this direction. Last time I checked they did not  
have a service we could use.

Christiaan

On 21 May 2008, at 9:51 AM, Tae-Won Ha wrote:

 Hi,

 is there any plan to support SPIRES directly in BibDesk?

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Simplyfying Template setup

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On 21 May 2008, at 3:53 PM, Simon Spiegel wrote:

 Hi,

 recently I fiddled again with my templates. Much kudos from me,
 BibDesk's templating system is now among the most powerful of any
 software. It certainly beats Endnote et al. in terms of fexibility.

 There's just one area which I think could be improved and this is
 exchange. I use biblatex for my LaTeX documents and my BibDesk
 templates also make heavy use of the additional fields biblatex
 provides. When I give my templates to someone else this requires quite
 a bit of setup on his part: He has to add certain bibtex types and
 certain fields in the prefs (for example, BibDesk needs to be told
 that translator, redactor and foreword has to be treated as
 persons) and then assign the different templates to the different
 document types. I wonder whether it would be possible to at least
 partially skip this procedure. In a perfect world, adding a template
 would already set up BibDesk in the desired way. I know this is
 probably too complicated. But can at least part of the information
 which is stored in the prefs also be put in the template (for example
 which fields have to be treated as persons) in the template? I do see
 a potential conflict on which settings should be set globally for the
 app and which are template specific, but I think at least some
 settings could easily be template specific.

 What do you think?

 simon
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The simple answer is: no. This is not possible. The template does not  
have type information and cannot contain it in any possible way. Just  
looking at the format should make this clear, it's just a text file  
where parts of the text are replaced.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Simplyfying Template setup

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On 21 May 2008, at 7:03 PM, Simon Spiegel wrote:


 On 21.05.2008, at 16:57, Christiaan Hofman wrote:


 On 21 May 2008, at 3:53 PM, Simon Spiegel wrote:

 Hi,

 recently I fiddled again with my templates. Much kudos from me,
 BibDesk's templating system is now among the most powerful of any
 software. It certainly beats Endnote et al. in terms of fexibility.

 There's just one area which I think could be improved and this is
 exchange. I use biblatex for my LaTeX documents and my BibDesk
 templates also make heavy use of the additional fields biblatex
 provides. When I give my templates to someone else this requires
 quite
 a bit of setup on his part: He has to add certain bibtex types and
 certain fields in the prefs (for example, BibDesk needs to be told
 that translator, redactor and foreword has to be treated as
 persons) and then assign the different templates to the different
 document types. I wonder whether it would be possible to at least
 partially skip this procedure. In a perfect world, adding a template
 would already set up BibDesk in the desired way. I know this is
 probably too complicated. But can at least part of the information
 which is stored in the prefs also be put in the template (for  
 example
 which fields have to be treated as persons) in the template? I do  
 see
 a potential conflict on which settings should be set globally for  
 the
 app and which are template specific, but I think at least some
 settings could easily be template specific.

 What do you think?

 simon
 --
 Simon Spiegel
 Steinhaldenstr. 50
 8002 Zürich


 The simple answer is: no. This is not possible. The template does not
 have type information and cannot contain it in any possible way. Just
 looking at the format should make this clear, it's just a text file
 where parts of the text are replaced.

 I know that the template doesn't contain this information – yet. But
 how about putting the template files and a plist file with the needed
 information in a package ... Doubleclick it and everything gets
 installed as it should ...


 simon

Which makes it even more of a hassle for a user to add templates.  
Moreover you'll get questions about what takes preference, and reports  
from users saying that their pref settings are ignored. Sorry, I'm not  
going into that wasp nest.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Simplyfying Template setup

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 21 May 2008, at 7:18 PM, Maxwell, Adam R wrote:

 On 05/21/08 10:03, Simon Spiegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 21.05.2008, at 16:57, Christiaan Hofman wrote:


 On 21 May 2008, at 3:53 PM, Simon Spiegel wrote:

 [...]
 In a perfect world, adding a template
 would already set up BibDesk in the desired way. I know this is
 probably too complicated. But can at least part of the information
 which is stored in the prefs also be put in the template (for  
 example
 which fields have to be treated as persons) in the template? I do  
 see
 a potential conflict on which settings should be set globally for  
 the
 app and which are template specific, but I think at least some
 settings could easily be template specific.


 The simple answer is: no. This is not possible. The template does  
 not
 have type information and cannot contain it in any possible way.  
 Just
 looking at the format should make this clear, it's just a text file
 where parts of the text are replaced.

 I know that the template doesn't contain this information – yet. But
 how about putting the template files and a plist file with the needed
 information in a package ... Doubleclick it and everything gets
 installed as it should ...

 The type info is totally separate from the templates, logically and  
 in the
 code.  I don't see how you could move that with the templates.  For  
 the
 rest, it sounds like you want a separate document type?  That would  
 preclude
 easy editing of templates in TextEdit.  However, if the template  
 editor's
 state could be archived and saved such that they could always be  
 reopened,
 maybe it could become the exclusive way to edit templates?

Certainy not, because the template editor is still restricted. There  
are lots of advanced template features not available from the editor.

Apart from the fact that it won't work. The whole ida of the template  
system is that it makes properties in the program available. When the  
properties are called they have no idea whether they're called because  
they're included in a template or not.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] nightly build broken

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Apparently it doesn't have a binary. But I have no problem with the  
current SVN, and no changes have been made since you build the last  
nightly. So perhaps a problem during uploading.

Christiaan

On 22 May 2008, at 3:27 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 The last nightly build weighed in under 6MB, so I'm guessing
 something's broken in the codebase?


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] preferences for preview pane?

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On 22 May 2008, at 10:06 PM, M A wrote:

 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Adam R. Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

 On May 9, 2008, at 7:51 AM, M A wrote:

 How do I set preferences for what is shown in the preview pane (ie  
 the
 part of the window below the table of all my publications)? In
 particular, how can I make the font larger? It used to be that I  
 could
 go into BibDesk's preferences and under the Display preferences I
 could select something for Preview Pane Display (e.g. Details,  
 Annot,
 PDF, etc) and under Fonts I could change the font for the Preview
 pane. My main interest is in changing the font to a larger size to
 make it easier for me to read all the information (particularly the
 abstract) for a selected publication.

 details are in this RFE:

 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1958385group_id=61487atid=497426


 I upgraded to 1.3.17 (from 1.3.14 where I could alter the font size of
 the preview pane) to try out the new functionality of zooming the
 text. Although the new feature was a nice try, it does not succeed in
 providing the functionality of earlier versions (e.g. 1.3.14). The
 problem is that zooming in, or selecting a larger than 100% value in
 the bottom right corner might make the text larger but it doesn't fit
 it into the window anymore. So, trying to read the abstract, for
 instance, or even just seeing the whole title, is no longer possible
 without scrolling from side to side. Is it possible to make the text
 fit into the window? (I know the inclination is to say no to feature
 requests, but this is not so much about adding a new feature as
 reverting back to an old, and nice, one.)

 Mark A

Indeed, the answer is no. We won't go back to the old system. There  
were too many view options while still being too restricted in the  
choices you had. Templates make the these specific choices obsolete  
and allow an enormous amount of customization.

I think your request should be more to make zooming better behaved, by  
fitting to the available space when you rescale. I think that's  
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Simplyfying Template setup

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On 22 May 2008, at 10:46 PM, Alex Montgomery wrote:

 I think the point is that in order for some templates to work
 properly, certain Custom BibTeX fields have to be set up, which are
 normally configured in Preferences-Default Field Preferences. Simon
 was looking for a way of setting these default fields in the  
 templates.

 One way of doing this would be to introduce import custom fields/
 types functionality. This wouldn't put them in the templates, but
 would allow bundling of a file that could set the custom fields/types
 properly for the templates to work.


But note that there are 2 completely separate parts:
- The role of special fields (like person or URL fields)
- The types and fields info

The latter can actually pretty easily be distributed, as it is stored  
in a file in Application Support (~/Library/Application Support/ 
BibDesk/TypeInfo.plist). The former is a bit harder, because it is  
stored in the preference file.

 This may not be a bad idea in general, seeing as different BibTeX
 replacement systems that rely on the same format but different or
 expanded fields and types could be more easily set.

 -AHM


But are there many different systems? So is there another effective  
standard apart from bibtex and biblatex? And how much of a standard is  
biblatex ATM? Perhaps we could add an easy choice for either of these  
two default settings (with some custom stuff thrown in, as is also  
currently the case), and leave other settings to the user, in the  
Advanced section of the prefs. I think that could cover it for most  
users, while allowing the current flexibility for advanced users.

Christiaan

 On 2008-05-22, at 1:04 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

 I am pretty sure this won't satisfy Simon, but how about an export
 template button somewhere? If the templates really are just text
 files, then someone wanting to share templates could export them to
 the desktop or somewhere else, and then someone else could drop it
 into his or her BD configuration (perhaps wtih an import template
 button somewhere?).

 I am coming in late to this discussion so I hope I am not missing the
 point.

 -Adam

 On May 22, 2008, at 4:57 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:


 On 22 May 2008, at 9:38 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote:




 I know that the template doesn't contain this information – yet.
 But
 how about putting the template files and a plist file with the
 needed
 information in a package ... Doubleclick it and everything gets
 installed as it should ...


 Which makes it even more of a hassle for a user to add templates.
 Moreover you'll get questions about what takes preference, and
 reports
 from users saying that their pref settings are ignored. Sorry, I'm
 not
 going into that wasp nest.

 My point is the following: Let's say I create a template for
 incollection. The chances that I will use this template for
 anything
 else but this specific entry type are very small IMO. So if a
 mechanism could be established where a template can have a default
 entry type I'd only see benefits. This default could always be
 overruled by BibDesk preferences we already have, but I see little
 potential conflict here.


 It's more a question for the field type (like author or URL fields)
 than for type info. Note that the template editor accepts templates
 referring to unknown fields. It can just be rejected when the type  
 of
 field does not match.


 The type info is totally separate from the templates, logically  
 and
 in the
 code.  I don't see how you could move that with the templates.   
 For
 the
 rest, it sounds like you want a separate document type?  That  
 would
 preclude
 easy editing of templates in TextEdit.  However, if the template
 editor's
 state could be archived and saved such that they could always be
 reopened,
 maybe it could become the exclusive way to edit templates?

 How it would be technically solved, I don't know. I also wouldn't
 mind
 if it was a bit complicated to create such a template package. I'm
 really more thinking about giving users who are not very tech  
 savy a
 way to easily use already existing templates.

 simon

 What I'm saying is that it would make it more difficult for the user
 to manage templates like this. And no way to change it by hand.  
 Huge,
 enormous drawback. And I also say that it makes no difference: you
 still would not be able to use it properly, because the information
 is
 embedded in the program, and the program (in a general broad sense)
 does not  know about the template. So the only thing you would gain
 is
 that you could open a few more templates in the template editor.
 That's certainly not worth the cost.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] three small feature requests

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On 23 May 2008, at 3:27 PM, Derick Fay wrote:

 (each based on Apple UI features)

 1) add Previous and Next buttons to the dialog for viewing a
 single record, as in iTunes -- convenient when it's necessary to
 manually edit a bunch of records


We used to have these, but they were removed with the toolbar. And I  
really don't think this is worth adding a toolbar.

 2) change (or provide the option to change) the font for displaying #
 of records in a group to the font used by Mail.app for unread message
 #s -- it's slightly wider, with fewer serifs.


It uses the same font as the text, but a bold variant. You can change  
that yourself. I think it could look real ugly when the fonts don't  
match, especially in size. Any idea what font they use?

 3) add space bar as a keyboard shortcut for Quick Look of attached
 files / urls, as in the Leopard Finder -- after a  month or so on
 Leopard, this has become a reflex for me...

Space bar scrolls, which is standard everywhere else on the Mac (so  
it's Finder being inconsistent, not BD). And it is a reflex for me  
(i.e. to scroll). In BD the shortcut is Cmd-Y.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Styles v Templates

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On 26 May 2008, at 12:19 PM, Timothy Roes wrote:

 Dear all,

 I read the manual but still don't get what the difference is between
 using Templates and using Styles. I read Styles are really hard to
 develop, so I was wondering how to accomplish the following:


This has been answered by Simon.

 As a law student, I use LaTeX (TeXShop editor for Mac) and have to add
 a lot of footnotes for case law, articles and books. Each of these
 classes have different official referencing rules, always depending on
 whether it's a footnote or a reference in the bibliography.

 Uptill now, I made several templates in which I incorporated the
 \footnote{} command. In BibDesk I used the Copy using [Template]
 submenu and then pasted that in TeXShop.

 Two questions:
 - Can this be done easier? Is it possible that I type \cite{key} in my
 LaTeX editor and that LaTeX then automatically generates a footnote
 and a reference in the bibliography, using a different template
 depending on whether it's an article, a book,...


On Leopard any automatic completion is the responsibility of the  
editor. BibDesk offers services (in the Services submenu of any app's  
main menu) to complete a latex citation or bibliography, which uses  
(customizable) templates. For the rest, BibDesk has no (officially  
supported) way to offer auto-completion.

On Tiger, BibDesk provided an input manager to support completion of  
\cite commands (in Cocoa editors). This is still included in the  
BibDesk bundle, but installing it on Leopard is much harder, and must  
be done by hand.

AFAIK, TeXShop does not currently offer \cite autocompletion, but may  
do so in the future.

 - In BibDesk, there's a Preview function which is very handy. Is there
 a way I can make the TeX preview be generated following the same
 templates? This would mean BibDesk used another template depending on
 the class of the source (article, book,...).

That makes no sense. The point of the TeX preview is that it generates  
a preview using TeX. If you want a preview generated using a template,  
you should use the preview that's generated using a template (in the  
bottom or side pane of the main window). These are separate and  
different features, and both are fully supported.

In general, the templating system supports the use of different  
templates for different types. You can see that from the template  
editor, and from the Template preferences (in particular, see the RTF  
Service template).

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Bibdesk-users Digest, Vol 25, Issue 28

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On 27 May 2008, at 1:28 AM, Derick Fay wrote:


 2) change (or provide the option to change) the font for  
 displaying #
 of records in a group to the font used by Mail.app for unread  
 message
 #s -- it's slightly wider, with fewer serifs.


 It uses the same font as the text, but a bold variant. You can change
 that yourself. I think it could look real ugly when the fonts don't
 match, especially in size. Any idea what font they use?


 After trying to recreate it in TextEdit, I'd say Mail.app uses Arial
 Bold, same size as the font set for the Mailbox font.  On principle,
 I'd think using different fonts there would be a bad idea, but it is
 easier to read than the font in BD.


Mail uses a fixed font for the count badge, independent of the font  
prefs (apart from the size). I don't think it's Arial Black, rather  
Helvetica Bold (look at the 1). For me, the list font is Lucida Grande  
(which is the default). When I change that in the Mail prefs, the  
count badge remains the same.

 After a bit more trial and error, it looks to me like BD is using the
 same font as the group text, but with the kerning reduced -- in
 TextEdit, using the same font with white on grey, I had to use the
 Format  Font  Kern  Tighten command seven times to get the text to
 be as tightly packed as the text in BD.  Using the default kern would
 improve readability, I think.


To be precise: the font used in BD is based on the font for the table,  
but bold, 1pt smaller, and a smaller kerning (changed by -1).  
Generally I think I would agree with Adam (who made those choices) a  
tighter kerning looks better for the badge, it makes it more compact.  
In particular fonts that may not be true, but we can only satisfy the  
general public and should look first at the default settings.

So I'm not sure if we should use the same font, or a fixed font as  
Mail does. There sure is something to say for using a fixed font  
without serif.

 Thanks for the tip on the Quick Look keystroke, by the way.

 Derick

It's in the menu.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Download bibtex from Spires

[Christiaan Hofman]

Thanks, I've made these extra fixes to the scripts, they're available  
from the Wiki. I did not change the BibTeX string problem, as that  
is really a BD bug that has been fixed in the latest nightlies. So if  
you want to use the scripts you should use a recent nightlies or patch  
it yourself in the script (the last nightly is safe, even safer than  
the release).

Christiaan

On 28 May 2008, at 3:26 AM, Steuard Jensen wrote:

 Using Christiaan Hoffman's AppleScripts for downloading Spires and  
 arXiv
 information, I seem to have run into issues similar to those were
 reported here by Mukund Rangamani a couple of weeks ago.  Christiaan's
 suggested fix to the scripts pretty much fixed the basic issue (after
 correcting a typo: the final s is missing from publications at the
 end of the first line).

 But I ran into a couple of other errors, and I wanted to pass along
 fixes for them as well.  First, the issue mentioned by Mukund  
 regarding
 theFile is due to a typo in the current BibDesk Download script,
 right near the end in the linkURL function.  Inside the repeat  
 loop
 there, the variable theFile needs to be changed to theURL.  (The
 confusion in the previous discussion probably arose because the error
 code 712 is used in more than one place in the script.)

 And second, it seems that an analogue of Christiaan's suggested fix  
 must
 also be applied in the first function of the BibDesk Download  
 script,
 queryForEprintIdentifiers.  (This issue arises if you use the
 Download BibTeX and PDF shortcut script.)  In the final repeat  
 loop
 of that function, there is another instruction to make a new  
 publication
 with specified properties.  Replace the lines:

make new publication with properties ¬
   {BibTeX string:@article{arxivId,Eprint={arxivId}}} ¬
  at beginning of publications

 with

set aNewPub to make new publication at beginning of publications
set BibTeX string of aNewPub to @article{  arxivId  , Eprint =
 {  arxivId  }}

 (My apologies if the second and last line immediately above gets
 unintentionally line-wrapped: I've tried to preserve the proper  
 spacing
 of the original.)


 I hope those hints are helpful to someone (possibly including  
 Christiaan
 in his next update).  If anyone is interested in knowing how to make
 these scripts work if you have BibDesk save files with relative paths
 rather than to a specified papers folder, or on modifying the  
 filename
 analysis routines to recognize new-style arXiv numbering, I can give
 some code for that, too.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Download bibtex from Spires

[Christiaan Hofman]

Another hint: the latest nightly have support for Spires in the Web group.
Just search in Spires, and the matches will be ready for one-click import.

Christiaan

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Thanks, I've made these extra fixes to the scripts, they're available from
 the Wiki. I did not change the BibTeX string problem, as that is really a
 BD bug that has been fixed in the latest nightlies. So if you want to use
 the scripts you should use a recent nightlies or patch it yourself in the
 script (the last nightly is safe, even safer than the release).

 Christiaan


 On 28 May 2008, at 3:26 AM, Steuard Jensen wrote:

  Using Christiaan Hoffman's AppleScripts for downloading Spires and arXiv
 information, I seem to have run into issues similar to those were
 reported here by Mukund Rangamani a couple of weeks ago.  Christiaan's
 suggested fix to the scripts pretty much fixed the basic issue (after
 correcting a typo: the final s is missing from publications at the
 end of the first line).

 But I ran into a couple of other errors, and I wanted to pass along
 fixes for them as well.  First, the issue mentioned by Mukund regarding
 theFile is due to a typo in the current BibDesk Download script,
 right near the end in the linkURL function.  Inside the repeat loop
 there, the variable theFile needs to be changed to theURL.  (The
 confusion in the previous discussion probably arose because the error
 code 712 is used in more than one place in the script.)

 And second, it seems that an analogue of Christiaan's suggested fix must
 also be applied in the first function of the BibDesk Download script,
 queryForEprintIdentifiers.  (This issue arises if you use the
 Download BibTeX and PDF shortcut script.)  In the final repeat loop
 of that function, there is another instruction to make a new publication
 with specified properties.  Replace the lines:

   make new publication with properties ¬
  {BibTeX string:@article{arxivId,Eprint={arxivId}}} ¬
 at beginning of publications

 with

   set aNewPub to make new publication at beginning of publications
   set BibTeX string of aNewPub to @article{  arxivId  , Eprint =
 {  arxivId  }}

 (My apologies if the second and last line immediately above gets
 unintentionally line-wrapped: I've tried to preserve the proper spacing
 of the original.)


 I hope those hints are helpful to someone (possibly including Christiaan
 in his next update).  If anyone is interested in knowing how to make
 these scripts work if you have BibDesk save files with relative paths
 rather than to a specified papers folder, or on modifying the filename
 analysis routines to recognize new-style arXiv numbering, I can give
 some code for that, too.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Download bibtex from Spires

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On 29 May 2008, at 12:04 AM, Steuard Jensen wrote:

 Adam M. Goldstein wrote:
 I'll try to answer this before Christiaan gets to it:

 My thanks!

 First, select the web group that appears automatically in the left-
 side groups pane in the main view.

 This cleared up confusion #1 for me (I'd previously thought of that  
 as a
 keywords or maybe folders pane, since I hadn't known the official
 name.  That left me looking around the Search Groups in the Searches
 menu for web-related things.)

 Second, go to the spires site by entering in its url:
 http://www.slac.stanford.edu/spires/

 And this cleared up confusion #2: I'd apparently been using the  
 Fermilab
  mirror of Spires, but BibDesk understandably relies on recognizing  
 the
 (primary) URL for the site.


I'll add the mirrors as well for tomorrows nightly.

Christiaan

 It works, I just tried it with the most recent nightly build.

 Yes it does!  Fantastic: I love it.  My thanks to the developers who
 made it happen!

 Steuard Jensen


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] changing requirements for NIH

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On 1 Jun 2008, at 8:35 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 On May 31, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Simon Spiegel wrote:

 A followup: As I said, I don't know the details of the APA style, but
 from a first glance, the examples I saw on the web don't look
 dramatically different from biblatex's authoryear-comp style. So you
 definitely wouldn't have to start from scratch but could start with  
 an
 existing style. And even if bigger changes were necessary, contrary  
 to
 when you hack .bst files you'd actually had a chance to understand
 what's going on.

 I asked because the APA style is complicated enough to have its own
 book:

 http://books.apa.org/books.cfm?id=4200061

 and I've been told by various users that apacite/apa.cls is the only
 acceptable solution; apparently apalike doesn't cut it.  Granted, the
 entire 400+ pages isn't dedicated to bibliography, but it has a bunch
 of weird rules that would be time-consuming to implement correctly.

 For the OP's problem, I'd second Alex's suggestion of (ab)using the
 note field as the easiest way, providing the result fits the style/NIH
 requirements.

 -- 
 adam

You can even make it into a script hook so it's done automatically.  
There is a sample script hook for auto-filling a field in the Help and  
the Wiki which should be not too difficult to adapt.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] ignoring book series in bibliography

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On 3 Jun 2008, at 10:03 PM, Richard Davis wrote:

 I have a bib file with many book entries including a 'series' field. I
 wish to keep this field and the information that it contains, but I do
 not wish the book series to appear in my bibliography.

 In my preferences 'series' is neither required nor optional. I would
 have thought that this would make it ignored.

 Anyway when I create my bibliography and footnotes in latex (TexShop
 with jurabib on a Mac) the book series appears. I could go through the
 database and delete all the appearances of series but don't really
 want to do this.

 --  
 rad

Your bibliography generated in latex is generated by bibtex. This  
program does not care about your BibDesk preferences. How the  
bibliography is formatted depends entirely on the style you're using,  
in your case jurabib.

If you just want to keep the series information in BibDesk and want to  
have it ignored, you can either change the bibtex style (which usually  
is hard), or move the information to another field that's ignored by  
bibtex. An AppleScript would be well suited for that (I think there's  
one doing this linked on the Wiki).

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Template question : French bibliographical style

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On 12 Jun 2008, at 9:02 PM, Sergio MORA wrote:


Dear members,

I need to export my bibliographical database into the French style  
of citations, mainly the ISO 960 style (called also AFNOR Z 44-005).  
The output is the following (example for a book) :


GUIMELLI Christian. Structures et transformations des  
représentations sociales. Neuchâtel, Switzerland : Delachaux et  
Niestlé, 1994, 277 p.


The problem that I have is that I don't know how to uppercase just  
the last name of the author. In French, last names are in uppercase  
and there are no commas between last name and first name.  I did the  
following template rule but it outputs the last names first, and  
then the first name.


 
$ 
authors 
.lastName 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/.  
$fields.Title/$fields.Edition? $fields.Edition// 
$fields.Edition?. $fields.Address?$fields.Address/ :/ 
$fields.Address? $fields.Publisher/, $fields.Year/.


Is there a template key that can do the thing? I don't want to  
convert all the last names of my database to uppercase, I would  
rather prefer to do it directly by the template.


Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Sergio MORA


There's no key for this (doesn't sound too standard to me, and  
moreover there are too many standards in the world). So the only way  
to do this is to explicitly format the names separately using a  
collection tag for the authors. Something like this (should be without  
newlines):


$authors$lastName.uppercaseString/ $firstName/?$authors, / 
$authors


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Pubmed results and scripting externa searches

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On 13 Jun 2008, at 2:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 I was studying the manual and the wiki but couldn't find an answer  
 so far.

 Is it possible to get more than 50 Pubmed results at once in Bibdesk?


Yes, just hit the Search button if there are more results. It's  
mentioned in the status bar.

 I also recognized the search group entry  in Bibdesks AppleScript
 library. So I was curious if it is possible to automate a workflow
 like this:

 1. copy or drag the DOI of an article to a script

 2. Find the entry in Bibdesks Pubmed search

 3. Import the article into the library

 Thanks in advance for your ideas.


 Tchau Mario

That's possible. Though it seems a bit inefficient to add a new search  
group for every item you want to add. Perhaps you could just have a  
search group with a fixed name for that purpose and reuse it, creating  
it if it does not exist.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] customized isi filtering

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On 14 Jun 2008, at 12:17 AM, Craig Maloney wrote:

 Hi all.

 (Developers: great product...)

 I really like the fact that I can drag .isi files from web of science
 into the bibdesk pane and it will automatically convert to bibtex and
 generate a key.  BUT there are some older W.O.S. database entries WITH
 ANNOYING BLOCK CAPS FORMATTING.  The perl script which I used to use
 to convert isi to bibtex does a nice job of fixing this.  What would
 be the easiest way to have bibdesk automatically use my preferred
 isitobibtex.pl filter instead of Bibdesk's built-in one?


BibDesk does not support custom importers. One thing you could do is  
add a script hook that cleans the fields after importing. This uses  
AppleScript.

 Also, a completely unrelated question:
 The documentation for using the built-in internet database searching
 (e.g. web of science) is very sparse and it's tough for me to find
 anything searching this newsgroup.  I can't seem to get it to work.
 Any pointers?

 Thanks,
 Craig

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] study group authors

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The Author field is interpreted by bibtex as an author name, and  
formatted according to that interpretation. In short: the output you  
get is correct, it's your expectations that are wrong. If you want to  
pass a string as formatted as an author, you should put it in an extra  
pair of braces. Bibtex will interpret this as a single 'character',  
therefore as if it were a single last name.


Christiaan

On 15 Jun 2008, at 8:26 PM, Daniele Pontillo wrote:

I cannot get the correct output whenever I enter in the author field  
something like:
The Clopidogrel in unstable angina to prevent recurrent events trial  
investigators.

this is what I get in pdf with a vancouver.bst style
in unstable angina to prevent recurrent events trial investigators  
TheClopidogrel

Thanks a lot

Daniele Pontillo
Chief, Echo Lab, Cardiology, Belcolle Hospital
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Poll: Organising your papers

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On 17 Jun 2008, at 11:47 PM, James D. Brenton wrote:

 On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote:

 [snip]

 One folder (with lots of subfolders) for all papers (like iTunes  
 does)
 and my custom auto file format string is: %p1/%Y/%T5 %f{Cite
 Key}%u5%e

 Is there any way to rename pdfs to the Pubmed ID e.g. 18541649.pdf?

 James.

Sure, you can use any field using %f{Field}. Of course you need a Pmid  
field.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Poll: Organising your papers

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Can you send me a sample of one of your .aux file off list? The format  
of this files is not documented and apparently varies. I just fixed it  
for some kind of mess that it could contain, but that fix should not  
affect .aux files for which it used to work.

Christiaan

On 18 Jun 2008, at 12:28 AM, James Howison wrote:

 Weird.  That used to work.  I agree though, it doesn't now.  Perhaps
 it would be best if there was a menu item for it anyway, Select
 References From .aux File  I think that would help people find it.

 But first we should check it works, can anyone get the select from aux
 file to work at the moment?

 On Jun 17, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Matthieu Masquelet wrote:

 Wow, I didn't know this one, thanks a lot ! Would be helpful to
 extract these 10 references for a paper and to create a neat bib file
 that doesn't contain 1000 entries. But how do you get it to work?
 Dropping my .aux file does nothing for me...

 On the first topic, I personally auto-file in a PAPERS folder with  
 the
 years as subfolders (from 1951 to 2008 as of now :) ). But it's not
 like I often need to dig into that folder structure...

 Matthieu

 Of course I could also create per-
 project bib files (and do occasionally to send them to
 collaborators).


 I love the ability to drop a .aux file onto BibDesk and have it
 select
 the references used in a paper.  I usually then create a static  
 group
 for them and use that to create the .bib to mail to colleagues.   
 That
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Poll: Organising your papers

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On 18 Jun 2008, at 5:29 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:


 On Jun 17, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

 OK, and that one has never worked. You're apparently using some
 special style, not the default way to write bibliographies.

 Christiaan

 On 18 Jun 2008, at 1:33 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

 I included an aux file in a post in this thread, one that doesn't
 work.

 -Adam



 That aux file was good for something though:

Certainly not exactly the same .aux file you pasted in the other mail,  
because that did not include anything we look for. I guess you run  
another tex process (I think the citations are included in the .aux  
file only in the second pass).

 when I dropped it into
 the BD library from which the references were taken, it did highlight
 them. Then I could have made a group with them and exported that  
 group.


Then perhaps you misunderstand: this is precisely the feature we're  
talking about.

 I am using a custom style created with merlin.bst; but other than that
 I am doing things in the usual way with BibTeX.

 -Adam


I only think that custom .sty files associated to some .bst files  
(such as natbib) should give problems.

Christiaan


 On Jun 17, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

 Can you send me a sample of one of your .aux file off list? The
 format
 of this files is not documented and apparently varies. I just fixed
 it
 for some kind of mess that it could contain, but that fix should  
 not
 affect .aux files for which it used to work.

 Christiaan

 On 18 Jun 2008, at 12:28 AM, James Howison wrote:

 Weird.  That used to work.  I agree though, it doesn't now.
 Perhaps
 it would be best if there was a menu item for it anyway, Select
 References From .aux File  I think that would help people find  
 it.

 But first we should check it works, can anyone get the select from
 aux
 file to work at the moment?

 On Jun 17, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Matthieu Masquelet wrote:

 Wow, I didn't know this one, thanks a lot ! Would be helpful to
 extract these 10 references for a paper and to create a neat bib
 file
 that doesn't contain 1000 entries. But how do you get it to work?
 Dropping my .aux file does nothing for me...

 On the first topic, I personally auto-file in a PAPERS folder  
 with
 the
 years as subfolders (from 1951 to 2008 as of now :) ). But it's
 not
 like I often need to dig into that folder structure...

 Matthieu

 Of course I could also create per-
 project bib files (and do occasionally to send them to
 collaborators).


 I love the ability to drop a .aux file onto BibDesk and have it
 select
 the references used in a paper.  I usually then create a static
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Fwd: Votes on 1.3.18

[Christiaan Hofman]

Please also test display and search of Skim notes in the next nightly.  
Thanks.

Christiaan

On 18 Jun 2008, at 12:25 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

 OK, we'll hang on 'til then, let me know when you get confirmation.

 In the meantime, other testers should keep current with nightly
 builds, and let developers know about hang-ups, beach-balling,
 unexpected behaviors, etc., etc..

 Thanks for your assistance with BibDesk testing!

 -Adam

 On Jun 17, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

 I was waiting for a confirmation that the fix for the hang that
 recently was reported works. If that works, I agree.

 Christiaan

 On 17 Jun 2008, at 11:19 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

 No one is voting---does that mean unanimity in favor of the new
 release?

 Cast your vote!

 -Adam

 On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

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 I think we are definitely due for a new BD release! So, lets take
 the
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] syntax error

[Christiaan Hofman]

And of course there's nothing anyway can say other than you obviously  
have invalid bibtex based on this info. You can look at the bibtex  
source and try and fix it yourself by double-clicking the entry in the  
error panel.

Christiaan

On 19 Jun 2008, at 5:51 AM, James Howison wrote:

 Just to be clear; another program is generating something it calls
 BibTeX that BibDesk can't import?

 Probably helpful if you paste in the text it purports is bibtex, it
 sounds like Bookends might be generating faulty bibtex?

 On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:38 PM, Shane Eastwood wrote:

 I am getting this error, when exporting Bookends bibliograph in  
 Bibtex
 format and then dragging to Bibdesk 1.3.12 (v940) window. i am not
 sure where the problem is coming from. Do you know how to fix the
 problem?

 By manually removing the first ',' on the first line of each  
 reference
 entry, and then dragging into Bibdesk main window resolves the  
 problem
 it appears. However how can i make it run properly?

 Please see  below:

 bibliography26  syntax error found ,, expected one of:
 number,
 name (entry type, key, field, or macro name), end of entry (} or
 )) or quoted string ({...} or ...)

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] search group z39.5 connections not working, urls are fine....

[Christiaan Hofman]

I guess your local firewall does not allow traffic through the ports  
used by z39.50 (like 7090 for LOC). If you can't control the firewall  
(or ask for ports like these to be opened) you may have to use your  
proxy. BD has no UI to set a proxy, but you can set it by hand.

1. save a search group as a .bdsksearch file (use drag  drop)
2. edit the .bdsksearch file with a plain text editor (such as  
TextEdit), add 2 lines to the options dict of the form:

keyproxy/key
stringYOUR PROXY HERE/string

e.g. for LOC you'd get some lines like:

keyoptions/key
dict
keyproxy/key
stringYOUR PROXY HERE/string
keyrecordSyntax/key
stringUS MARC/string
keyresultEncoding/key
stringmarc-8/string
/dict

3. save the file, and drop it on a BD window

I've never tried it myself, so I can't say if it works.

Christiaan

On 19 Jun 2008, at 1:59 PM, Shane Eastwood wrote:

 No, I cant connect to LOC. with z39.50. But url bookmarks, i.e LOC  
 is fine.


 Shane.

 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Adam R. Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:

 On Jun 19, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote:

 On Bibdesk Version 1.3.12 (v940) , I can not connect using z39.50
 bookmark connections. URL bookmarks, however work fine.

 1.3.12 is pretty old.  Why are you using it?

 My uni has proxy server settings. I am not sure what the problem
 really is.

 Can you connect to Library of Congress via z39.50?  It doesn't  
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] search group z39.5 connections not working, urls are fine....

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 20 Jun 2008, at 11:22 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote:

 Thanks for the reply,

 I'll check wiki, however, you havent told; 1. save a search group as
 a .bdsksearch file (use drag  drop)   Is not clear.

It should be, because drag  drop is very common on the Mac. You use  
it to move an item from one place and add it to another. Now if you  
think what you want to get and where you want to have it, it should be  
clear to you from where you should drag and where to drop it (if it's  
not immediately clear you should just try). BD uses drag  drop in  
many places, it's really worth just trying it in various locations.

Christiaan



 Anyway, time, motivation etc. is limited, and its freeware, yes i  
 understand.

 Shango

 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Christiaan Hofman  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 20 Jun 2008, at 8:39 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote:

 The Bookends settings for z39.50 work seamlessly. In Bookends, it is
 revealed that my institution accesses z39.50 connections indirectly,
 that is,

 via a LOC gateway (not visible what that setting  is), and then to  
 the
 respective database to be searched.

 Also i need to enter my user id and password for each database in
 their respective filter and,

 insert my institutions student id and password in Bookends
 Preferences, and tick Proxy server authentication.


 Not very helpful, as we can't see how Bookends does it, since it's  
 not
 open source. I'm certainly not going to try and figure out myself how
 to do it for many reasons, three important ones are time, motivation
 and the fact that I can't test it.

 Be aware that Bookends is expensive and BibDesk is free.

 How to edit the script in search groups, such as LOC? It is not  
 clear
 to me, for example,  how to  access the bibdesk LOC script to save  
 in
 ' .bdsksearch' format,

 That's described on the Wiki. And I told you.

 and then edit to include similar functionality
 as in the Bookends options.

 Sincerely,

 Shane


 I just told you, I think. As I said, I cannot test it.

 Christiaan


 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I guess your local firewall does not allow traffic through the  
 ports
 used by z39.50 (like 7090 for LOC). If you can't control the  
 firewall
 (or ask for ports like these to be opened) you may have to use your
 proxy. BD has no UI to set a proxy, but you can set it by hand.

 1. save a search group as a .bdsksearch file (use drag  drop)
 2. edit the .bdsksearch file with a plain text editor (such as
 TextEdit), add 2 lines to the options dict of the form:

  keyproxy/key
  stringYOUR PROXY HERE/string

 e.g. for LOC you'd get some lines like:

  keyoptions/key
  dict
  keyproxy/key
  stringYOUR PROXY HERE/string
  keyrecordSyntax/key
  stringUS MARC/string
  keyresultEncoding/key
  stringmarc-8/string
  /dict

 3. save the file, and drop it on a BD window

 I've never tried it myself, so I can't say if it works.

 Christiaan

 On 19 Jun 2008, at 1:59 PM, Shane Eastwood wrote:

 No, I cant connect to LOC. with z39.50. But url bookmarks, i.e LOC
 is fine.


 Shane.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On Jun 19, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote:

 On Bibdesk Version 1.3.12 (v940) , I can not connect using  
 z39.50
 bookmark connections. URL bookmarks, however work fine.

 1.3.12 is pretty old.  Why are you using it?

 My uni has proxy server settings. I am not sure what the problem
 really is.

 Can you connect to Library of Congress via z39.50?  It doesn't
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] crash with nightly and skim-agent

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On 22 Jun 2008, at 9:16 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:

 On Jun 22, 2008, at 11:39 AM, James Howison wrote:

 I had a system meltdown yesterday so am reinstalling everything on a
 new computer.  Joy, oh joy.

 I just installed BibDesk latest nightly and started it up.  I got  
 lots
 of messages about skimnotesagent crashing (copied below).  I changed
 to the latest stable and BibDesk opened as expected (I'd copied over
 the prefs file and Documents hierarchy (so it knew where to open the
 main bib file I use).

 Looks like Christiaan rewrote the agent so it's no longer an agent,
 and I've no idea what's failing.  Offhand it looks like a zombie, and
 some SKNExtendedAttributeManager object is being treated as an  
 NSError.

 -- 
 adam


This is strange. I see no problem here in my tests. And it's still an  
agent, in fact it is exactly the same code (as I copied it), just  
included in a differently named tool.

James, When exactly did you get these problems? Did you do a quick  
search or anything? And may it be that you had more than one BibDesk  
processes running at the time?

Christiaan



 --J

 Console messages on opening latest nightly:

 6/22/08 2:12:50 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting  
 skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:12:51 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes  
 agent
 6/22/08 2:12:52 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes  
 agent
 6/22/08 2:12:53 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception [NSPortCoder
 sendBeforeTime:sendReplyPort:] timed out (235851173.677227
 235851173.679320) 1 caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:12:55 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception [NSPortCoder
 sendBeforeTime:sendReplyPort:] timed out (235851175.727544
 235851175.732719) 1 caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:12:57 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting  
 skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:12:57 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:12:59 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting  
 skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:00 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes  
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:01 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting  
 skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:02 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes  
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:03 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes  
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:03 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:04 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting  
 skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:05 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes  
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:06 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:07 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting  
 skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:08 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes  
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:09 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:10 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting  
 skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:11 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes  
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:12 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:12 PM skimnotes[65261] *** -[SKNExtendedAttributeManager
 code]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x112cc0
 6/22/08 2:13:12 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught [NOTE: this exception originated in the server.]
 *** -[SKNExtendedAttributeManager code]: unrecognized selector sent  
 to
 instance 0x112cc0 while contacting skim agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:12 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection 

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Fwd: Votes on 1.3.18

[Christiaan Hofman]

Wait for now, -1 from me, till we solve the skim notes problem reported by
James.

Christiaan

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Well, I didn't hear about it, so guess it's OK. I don't see the bug now
 (and I could reproduce it before the fix). So +1 from me.

 Christiaan


 On 18 Jun 2008, at 12:25 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

  OK, we'll hang on 'til then, let me know when you get confirmation.

 In the meantime, other testers should keep current with nightly
 builds, and let developers know about hang-ups, beach-balling,
 unexpected behaviors, etc., etc..

 Thanks for your assistance with BibDesk testing!

 -Adam

 On Jun 17, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

  I was waiting for a confirmation that the fix for the hang that
 recently was reported works. If that works, I agree.

 Christiaan

 On 17 Jun 2008, at 11:19 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

  No one is voting---does that mean unanimity in favor of the new
 release?

 Cast your vote!

 -Adam

 On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

  Hello everyone,

 I think we are definitely due for a new BD release! So, lets take
 the
 vote.

 -Adam

 PS. Florida and Michigan count!

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] crash with nightly and skim-agent

[Christiaan Hofman]

In fact for me the latest nightly also crashes, but for a different reason:
the architecture for the OmniFoundation framework is wrong. Maybe after all
we should ignore the docs and copy from the build location. This may be
related?

Please try the next nightly to see if things are fixed.

Christiaan

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wrote:

 BTW, James, what OS version do you run? I just saw that we're building the
 skimnotes tool for 10.5 only.

 Christiaan


 On 22 Jun 2008, at 8:39 PM, James Howison wrote:

  I had a system meltdown yesterday so am reinstalling everything on a
 new computer.  Joy, oh joy.

 I just installed BibDesk latest nightly and started it up.  I got lots
 of messages about skimnotesagent crashing (copied below).  I changed
 to the latest stable and BibDesk opened as expected (I'd copied over
 the prefs file and Documents hierarchy (so it knew where to open the
 main bib file I use).

 --J

 Console messages on opening latest nightly:

 6/22/08 2:12:50 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:12:51 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:12:52 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:12:53 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception [NSPortCoder
 sendBeforeTime:sendReplyPort:] timed out (235851173.677227
 235851173.679320) 1 caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:12:55 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception [NSPortCoder
 sendBeforeTime:sendReplyPort:] timed out (235851175.727544
 235851175.732719) 1 caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:12:57 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:12:57 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:12:59 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:00 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:13:01 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:02 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:13:03 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:13:03 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:04 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:05 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:13:06 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:07 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:08 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:13:09 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:10 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply while contacting skim
 agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:11 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection
 timeout: did not receive reply caught when contacting skimnotes agent
 6/22/08 2:13:12 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:12 PM skimnotes[65261] *** -[SKNExtendedAttributeManager
 code]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x112cc0
 6/22/08 2:13:12 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught [NOTE: this exception originated in the server.]
 *** -[SKNExtendedAttributeManager code]: unrecognized selector sent to
 instance 0x112cc0 while contacting skim agent; please report this
 6/22/08 2:13:12 PM BibDesk[64225] Error: exception connection went
 invalid while waiting for a reply caught when contacting skimnotes
 agent
 6/22/08 2:13:13 PM BibDesk[64225] -[BDSKSkimReader textNotesAtURL:]
 caught connection timeout: did not receive reply

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Fwd: Votes on 1.3.18

[Christiaan Hofman]

Thanks, fixed in the source.

Christiaan

On 28 Jun 2008, at 12:27 AM, Alex Montgomery wrote:

 Whoops, just found a regression. The following AppleScript used to
 work in 1.3.17, doesn't in the nightly build:

 tell application BibDesk
   set thePublications to the selection of document 1
   repeat with thePub in thePublications
   set theAuthors to the authors of thePub
   repeat with theAuthor in theAuthors
   set theAuthorName to the name of theAuthor
   end repeat
   end repeat
 end tell

 Sorry for the late notice...

 -AHM

 On 2008-06-26, at 10:44 AM, Maxwell, Adam R wrote:


 On 06/26/08 10:10, Adam M. Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, so far we have a total of +2. I have been using the nightlies
 regularly without problems. So I will put in +1 as well.

 Anyone else want to add his or her two cents? If I don't get any
 negative comments, I will get the release going shortly.

 I'd guess that nightly build usage goes down significantly in the
 summer, so
 you're probably not going to get any more votes either way :).


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Create bib file including used pubs in a document

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 5 Jul 2008, at 6:10 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

 This is possible, but I don't just now remember exactly how to do it,
 and a quick search of the help file didn't result in any entries
 obviously about this. It was discussed recently on the list so browse
 the archives from last month and you'll see the discussion.

 I think you drop the .aux file onto the BibDesk icon or into the
 window with your main. bib in it, and it will select the references
 from the .aux file, which you can then copy or else create a static
 group with. Aux files vary in form so it's not always successful, but
 it very often is.

 -Adam


That's basically correct (drop on the main window though, not on the  
icon). You can also Export the selected items separately. Also be sure  
to use one of the latest nightlies, as there were some changes  
recently to make this process more reliable.

Christiaan


 On Jul 5, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Christian wrote:

 Hello,

 I have one big bib file and now I wrote an article and used only some
 of the publications of this big bib file within that article. Is  
 there
 a way to  automatically create a new bib file including only the used
 publications within that article?

 Thanks
 Christian

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Consolidating my Bibliography Chaos

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 9 Jul 2008, at 2:52 PM, Stephan Kurz wrote:

 Dear all,

 I have been using BibDesk for quite a while now (AFAIR since release
 0.73), creating a lot of .bib files that cover pieces of my academic
 work (one .bib file per article).

That's longer than I've used it.

 These files are also spread across 3
 computers (and an SVN repository).

 To avoid duplicate bib entries, I would now like to create one large
 master file (my estimate is that this will sum up to around 3000
 entries). Summertime is probably the time to keep up with some things
 and get my computer environment properly running before doing some
 writing tasks…

 Before doing this (by means of merging in external file groups as
 suggested on this list), I have some questions that I hope somebody  
 can
 provide answers or actual usage experience for:

 - Will BD deal smoothly with 3000+ entries? I am mainly using an 2007
 iMac and a G4 PowerBook 1,67 (both with 2gb of RAM).


That shouldn't be a problem.

 - Citekeys issue:
 Some were generated manually in the old days when either I did not
 understand how to autogenerate them or the feature was not yet
 implemented. Others, I have autogenerated (using several different
 custom formats, stupid me).
 As I have used the keys in my .tex sources, these should not change
 (obviously). I just tried it, and BibDesk’s Select duplicate  
 mechanism
 does find duplicate publications that have different citekeys.  
 Great! I
 still have to clean those up manually anyway, and achieving a  
 consistent
 scheme of cite keys would require reediting old .tex sources. Are  
 there
 ways to do that automagically? If not, I’ll probably leave  
 everything as
 is since it is rather a problem of cosmetics.

Not everything, I couldn't even imagine how that may work. For example  
BibDesk has no idea which .tex files you have and how referecnes are  
used there, so you should not expect BibDesk to be able to fix  
citations in those. Generating cite keys in BD is easy enough, as you  
probably know. But synchronizing those with .tex files can be a pain,  
and not something BD can do.

The only thing I can think of is to write an AppleScript. It should  
scan your .tex files for cite keys (in \cite and \bibitem), generate  
new cite keys for those keys (which can also be called in  
AppleScript), and replace them in the .tex files and in BD.


 - Autofile issues:
 Some of my bibs have papers filed (via Autofile, and some are also  
 still
 stored somewhere on the file system of my PowerBook with links in the
 deprecated local-url field, but that is the minority of the files).
 Unfortunately, to different fixed locations on different computers.  
 What
 is the best way to bring these together?

I think the easiest way is to fix the .bib files at the local level  
before merging and then moving the file together with the PDFs to your  
joined location. In more detail:
1. On your PB make sure you save using a recent BD version including  
the new linked files (you may leave the old-style Local-Url fields if  
you want, it would be a backup solution, you could remove them later  
if you want).
2. You may want to move the files first (move, not copy) so they are  
placed near the .bib file (into a common folder), make sure you save  
the .bib file after doing this.
3. Archive the .bib file and the linked files together (it is  
important that the relative locations remain intact).
4. On your new location unarchive it. When you open the  
unarchived .bib file the linked files should work. Make sure you save  
the .bib file on the new system to update the alias links to the files.
5. Now you can copy the items (copy/paste, drag/drop, or merging from  
external groups) to your master .bib file. The (new style) links  
should work in the copied items.


 My ideal scenario would be to have a central repository on my  
 university
 server that would sync with my workstations to provide offline  
 access as
 well. That won’t work, so probably I’ll stick to mounting the  
 university
 server (which is no problem from my work computer, but I need a VPN
 connection from home).
 What will happen if I change the fixed location to, say,
 /Volumes/myserver/Papers/ -- can I, say, batch replace the location?

There is a problem with moving papers to a different volume. BibDesk  
can automatically follow linked files that are moved outside of  
BibDesk. But when you move them to a different volume the files are  
actually copied rather than moved, so BibDesk will not be able to find  
the files in the new location. On the other hand if you use BibDesk  
(in particular the manual auto-file feature) to move the files to the  
new location, this should work. Just set the papers folder in the  
prefs to /Volumes/myserver/Papers/ and choose an appropriate  
filename format, select the items or files you want to move there, and  
choose an Auto-File menu item.


 Another Autofile thing is that I once had the idea to divide my bibs  
 and
 

Re: [Bibdesk-users] AppleScript question

[Christiaan Hofman]

This looks like a bug in the last release that was fixed a while ago.  
Try a recent nightly.


Christiaan

On 13 Jul 2008, at 12:13 AM, Brian wrote:

I'm trying to use Greg Landweber's AppleScript to extract a BibTeX  
citation from MathSciNet to BibDesk v. 1.3.17. This worked (once I  
made some modifications to account for changed web source format on  
MathSciNet) until recently, but now I'm getting an error at the step


set newPublication to make new publication with properties {BibTeX  
string:BibTeXsource} at end of publications


Here is the error message:

BibDesk got an error: Cannot set property of external publication.

The immediate context of the step that generates the error is

tell application BibDesk
if (count of documents) = 0 then
make new document
end if
tell document 1
set newPublication to make new publication with properties  
{BibTeX string:BibTeXsource} at end of publications


and the AppleScript Event Log pertaining to these steps is

tell application BibDesk
count every document of current application
1
make new publication with properties {BibTeX string:
@book {MR1488158,
AUTHOR = {Weyl, Hermann},
 TITLE = {The classical groups},
SERIES = {Princeton Landmarks in Mathematics},
  NOTE = {Their invariants and representations,
  Fifteenth printing,
  Princeton Paperbacks},
 PUBLISHER = {Princeton University Press},
   ADDRESS = {Princeton, NJ},
  YEAR = {1997},
 PAGES = {xiv+320},
  ISBN = {0-691-05756-7},
   MRCLASS = {01A75 (20-03 20Cxx 20Gxx 22-01)},
  MRNUMBER = {MR1488158 (98k:01049)},
}
} at end of every publication of document 1
BibDesk got an error: Cannot set property of external  
publication.


Can someone tell me what's going wrong and how to fix it? Thanks in  
advance!


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] template encoding

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 13 Jul 2008, at 12:43 PM, Alex Hamann wrote:

 Hi,

 playing around with the export templates I ran into the following
 problem: the default rtf export template does not respect german
 Umlauts. I tried to change the bib-file's encoding from UTF-8 to ISO
 Latin 1 and Mac Roman but still the problem persists. James
 Harrison's preview template produces the correct output.
 I could not find any hint about how the encoding of the templates is
 set. Could any of the template wizards give me a hint what I am
 overlooking?

 Cheers,
 Alex

Templates should always be saved in UTF-8 encoding. For RTF this is  
not relevant, because that uses UTF-8 always anyway. Non-ascii  
characters should not be a problem, especially for RTF templates. The  
only thing I can think of is some cleaning key that removes umlauts.  
Are you talking about umlauts in generated content or content in the  
template file itself?

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] template encoding

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 13 Jul 2008, at 3:35 PM, Alex Hamann wrote:

 Hi Christiaan,

 I'll provide an example.
 In a bib file saved in UTF-8 the following entry is exported with the
 standard rtf export template:

   @book{Meyer:2000aa,
   Address = {Gräflingen},
   Author = {Meyer, Heinrich},
   Booktitle = {Die Abenteuer der üblen Röstwurst},
   Date-Added = {2008-07-13 15:25:32 +0200},
   Date-Modified = {2008-07-13 15:26:10 +0200},
   Title = {Die Abenteuer der üblen Röstwurst},
   Year = {2000}}

 export output:
 [Meyer(2000)] Meyer, Heinrich: Die Abenteuer der üblen Röstwurst,
 Gräflingen 2000.


That's definitely not the default RTF export template. The default RTF  
export template is the one used by default for the text preview in the  
bottom pane. Perhaps you mean Copy As... Rich Text? That uses latex  
and latex2rtf. I can very well imagine that not to be UTF-8-safe.

Christiaan

 The editor I copied the export into has UTF-8 set as default. I have
 reset the standard templates to make sure I have not modified it in
 any way.

 Cheers,

 Alex



 Am 13.07.2008 um 13:02 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:


 On 13 Jul 2008, at 12:43 PM, Alex Hamann wrote:

 Hi,

 playing around with the export templates I ran into the following
 problem: the default rtf export template does not respect german
 Umlauts. I tried to change the bib-file's encoding from UTF-8 to ISO
 Latin 1 and Mac Roman but still the problem persists. James
 Harrison's preview template produces the correct output.
 I could not find any hint about how the encoding of the templates is
 set. Could any of the template wizards give me a hint what I am
 overlooking?

 Cheers,
 Alex

 Templates should always be saved in UTF-8 encoding. For RTF this is
 not relevant, because that uses UTF-8 always anyway. Non-ascii
 characters should not be a problem, especially for RTF templates. The
 only thing I can think of is some cleaning key that removes umlauts.
 Are you talking about umlauts in generated content or content in the
 template file itself?

 Christiaan





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Re: [Bibdesk-users] template encoding

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 14 Jul 2008, at 10:55 AM, Alex Hamann wrote:


 Am 14.07.2008 um 00:00 schrieb Adam R. Maxwell:


 On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Alex Hamann wrote:

 Ok, let's sort this out:
 I save all files in Utf-8 and have character conversion disabled. I
 have modified the TeX-previes style by adding
 \usepackage{fontspec, xunicode}
 \setmainfont[Mapping=tex-text]{Hoefler Text}
 and use the following path to pdflatex
 /usr/texbin/xelatex -output-driver=xdvipdfmx -q -E
 So I have ajusted BibDesk's TeXpreview to my XeLaTeX handling of all
 LaTeX files I use.

 Aha!  If I'd known you were using xelatex, I wouldn't have
 suggested using inputenc :).

 Yeah, sorry for that. It just did not seem related to my original
 problem.


 If I run latex2rtf from command line on any Utf-8
 saved and XeLaTeX processed tex file I see the same kind of problems
 I have with the copy as RTF function described in my original  
 post.

 You must also see it if you switch to the Text tab in BibDesk's
 TeX preview pane.

 correct


 Using XeLaTeX is also the reason why I do not use the UTF-8 function
 of inputenc. And this results in the problems with latex2rtf. So the
 only way out of this I currently see is to abandon my XeLaTeX
 centered approach to TeX preview in BibDesk. I want to avoid this,
 though, because XeLaTeX is now the standard engine for all my TeX-
 related work and I want the TeX preview in BD to mirror the expected
 output as closely as possible.
 So the only culprit seems to be latex2rtf and its utf-8 handling,
 right?

 Culpability aside, XeTeX and latex2rtf are not compatible.  Have
 you tried copying from the PDF
 preview 
 ?--
 ---

 Switching to pdf view in the bottom preview and then marking it with
 the mouse and copying it produces the correct output when pasted in
 TextEdit. (Besides: isn't that what right clicking and selecting
 copy pdf should do?)


Not exactly. Copy PDF copies the PDF, while selecting the PDF text  
and copying copies the text (converted to RTF format).

Christiaan


 So the only culprit seems to be latex2rtf and its utf-8 handling,
 right?


 Try inserting \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} inside the \iflatextortf
 conditional in your previewtemplate.tex file.  You'd have

 \newif\iflatextortf
 \iflatextortf
 \providecommand{\bysame}{\_\_\_\_\_}
 \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
 \fi

 This will be ignored by TeX, but it should trick latex2rtf into
 interpreting your file as UTF-8.

 -- 
 adam 
 --
 ---


 This works nicely.
 Thx,

 Alex



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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Wikipedia citation

[Christiaan Hofman]

Here's an attempt. I haven't tested it, and it could well be improved.

Christiaan

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Not that I know, but it should be pretty easy to write.

 Christiaan


 On 14 Jul 2008, at 11:15 AM, Tobias wrote:

  Hi,

 is there a template for exporting a citation into wikipedia? Can't
 find anything...

 Cheers
 Tobias



$type=book?
{{cite book
 |last=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |first=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |authorlink=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]1?
 |coauthors=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
, /[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$editors?
 |editor=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
/$editors?
 |title=$fields.Title/
fields.Url?
 |url=$fields.Url/
/fields.Url?
fields.Edition?
 |edition=$fields.Edition/
/fields.Edition?
fields.Series?
 |series=$fields.Series/
/fields.Series?
fields.Volume?
 |volume=$fields.Volume/
/fields.Volume?
fields.Date?
 |date=$fields.Date/
/fields.Date?
 |year=$fields.Year/
fields.Month?
 |month=$fields.Month/
/fields.Month?
 |publisher=$fields.Publisher/
fields.Address?
 |location=$fields.Address/
/fields.Address?
 |language=
fields.Isbn?
 |isbn=$fields.Isbn/
/fields.Isbn?
fields.Doi?
 |doi=$fields.Doi/
/fields.Doi?
 }}
?$type=periodical?
{{cite journal
 |last=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |first=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |authorlink=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]1?
 |coauthors=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
, /[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
fields.Year?
 |year=$fields.Year/
/fields.Year?
fields.Month?
 |month=$fields.Month/
/fields.Month?
 |title=$fields.Title/
 |journal=$fields.Journal/
fields.Volume?
 |volume=$fields.Volume/
/fields.Volume?
fields.Issue?
 |issue=$fields.Issue/
/fields.Issue?
fields.Pages?
 |pages=$fields.Pages/
/fields.Pages?
fields.Url?
 |url=$fields.Url/
/fields.Url?
 }}
?$type=inproceedings?
{{cite conference
 |last=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |first=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |authorlink=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]1?
 |coauthors=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
, /[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |title=$fields.Title/
 |booktitle=$fields.Booktitle/
fields.Pages?
 |pages=$fields.Pages/
/fields.Pages?
 |publisher=$fields.Publisher/
fields.Date?
 |date=$fields.Date/
?fields.Date?
 |date=$fields.Year/
/fields.Date?
fields.Address?
 |location=$fields.Address/
/fields.Address?
fields.Url?
 |url=$fields.Url/
/fields.Url?
 }}
?$type=incollection?
{{cite conference
 |last=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |first=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |authorlink=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]1?
 |coauthors=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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, /[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |title=$fields.Title/
 |booktitle=$fields.Booktitle/
fields.Pages?
 |pages=$fields.Pages/
/fields.Pages?
 |publisher=$fields.Publisher/
fields.Date?
 |date=$fields.Date/
?fields.Date?
 |date=$fields.Year/
/fields.Date?
fields.Address?
 |location=$fields.Address/
/fields.Address?
fields.Url?
 |url=$fields.Url/
/fields.Url?
 }}
?$type=article?
{{cite paper
 |last=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |first=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |authorlink=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
 |author=[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]1?
 |coauthors=[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$name[EMAIL PROTECTED]
, /[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |title=$fields.Title/
fields.Version?
 |version=$fields.Version/
/fields.Version?
fields.Pages?
 |pages=$fields.Pages/
/fields.Pages?
fields.Publisher?
 |publisher=$fields.Publisher/
/fields.Publisher?
fields.Date?
 |date=$fields.Date/
?fields.Date?
 |date=$fields.Year/
/fields.Date?
fields.Url?
 |url=$fields.Url/
/fields.Url?
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] protecting groups

[Christiaan Hofman]

No, but you can undo it (unless it's a search group).

Christiaan

On 16 Jul 2008, at 11:05 PM, Rick Kirian wrote:

 Hi,

 Quick question:  Is there is a way to protect groups from being  
 accidentally deleted with the delete button?  A confirmation dialog  
 would be perfect.

 Thanks,
 Rick



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Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibTeX buffer size

[Christiaan Hofman]

This is not something from BibDesk, as this does not have a size  
limit. As the warning says, it's a warning from bibtex, probably  
coming from a tex preview. AFAIK this size limit of bibtex is fixed,  
you cannot increase it.

Christiaan

On 18 Jul 2008, at 2:14 AM, Tobias wrote:

 Hi,

 my BibTeX started complaining with:
 Sorry---you've exceeded BibTeX's buffer size 5000

 This seems to be one of my static groups in my bibdesk database gone
 too big. As this is all in one line the BibTeX buffer seems to
 explode. Does anyone know how to increase the buffer size?
 Or could one get BibDesk to add a few new-lines into large fields?


 Cheers
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Seperating multiple Authors with the german und

[Christiaan Hofman]

No, the and is part of the bibtex syntax.

Christiaan

On 18 Jul 2008, at 5:23 PM, Alexander Tscheulin wrote:

 Hello!

 Is there a way to seperate multiple Authors with sth. else than and?
 In my case this would be the german und?

 Cheers,
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Seperating multiple Authors with the german und

[Christiaan Hofman]

As I implied: there simply is no key similar to  
@componentsJoinedByCommaAndAnd. It would be impossible, as templates  
tags don't accept arguments.


That same page in the help explains the concept of collection tags and  
condition tags. You need to use those instead of a key like  
@componentsJoinedByCommaAndAnd to do custom stuff like custom  
separators.


Some examples:

1. [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ is equivalent to the  
following use of collection tags:


$authors$name/?$authors and /$authors

2. [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ is equivalent to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]3?
$authors$name/?$authors and /$authors[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]$name/, / 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and [EMAIL PROTECTED]//[EMAIL PROTECTED]

3. [EMAIL PROTECTED]/  
is equivalent to:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]3?
$authors$name/?$authors and /$authors[EMAIL PROTECTED]4?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]$name/, / 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]$name/, /[EMAIL PROTECTED]
et al./[EMAIL PROTECTED]

hth,
Christiaan

On 18 Jul 2008, at 8:11 PM, Alexander Tscheulin wrote:

I hope I'm ot to stupid here, but I looked here before (http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_94.html#SEC178 
), but all I found was this @componentsJoinedByCommaAndAnd but no  
clue how to change the last seperator or the language.


Alex


Am 18.07.2008 um 18:52 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

You can do this using collection and condition templates. This  
basically allows you to export in any format and any separator  
logic that you can think of.


Christiaan

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Alexander Tscheulin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

Sorry, I probably didn't put this clear enough. It's fine in the
application, but I need it for the export templates to get it right
into an pages-document. So that I don't have to edit manually.


Am 18.07.2008 um 17:34 schrieb Rolf Schmolling:

 Hi,

 this doesn't make much sense, since – usually – bib-styles used in
 LaTeX-documents apply language-specific formatting via the babel-
 package (for example jurabib).

 Greetings,

 Rolf

 Am 18.07.2008 um 17:23 schrieb Alexander Tscheulin:

 Hello!

 Is there a way to seperate multiple Authors with sth. else than  
and?

 In my case this would be the german und?

 Cheers,
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] CVS AppleScripts

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Thanks, I've included a link to your web page on the Wiki. See if it's  
accurate.

Christiaan

On 26 Jul 2008, at 4:21 AM, Douglas Stebila wrote:

 I have developed some AppleScripts that allow you to perform CVS
 operations in BibDesk; I keep my main bibliography file in CVS and
 wanted to be able to do CVS commands without having to go to the
 command line.

 The ZIP file containing the scripts is available at my website (as the
 mailing list will not allow ZIP files):
   http://www.douglas.stebila.ca/code/bibdesk/

 Please feel free to include it on the BibDesk wiki or in program
 itself if appropriate.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Can not rename new template

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click-wait-click

Christiaan

On 26 Jul 2008, at 2:07 PM, Karl-Werner Lorenz wrote:

 Hi,

 I am new to this mailing list.
 I am trying to add a new general template via the preferences menu  
 of Bibdesk as decribed on the website. But after adding a template  
 via the plus-button double-clicking in the red Click twice to  
 change name-field is doing nothing. I can change the file-type and  
 I can choose the template file via the file browser opening after  
 double-clicking the red double-click to choose file, but nothing  
 happens, when double-clicking to change the template name. it just  
 stays red ...

 Is this a known problem of Bibdesk or ist this a problem of mine -  
 btw, double-clicking within Bibdesk and other applications works  
 well, so this is not a mouse or trackpad problem ...

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] obscure error: possible runaway string started at line

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 28 Jul 2008, at 4:08 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:


 On Jul 27, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

 I also don't see anything wrong. Also, I have no problem opening a
 file with the pasted item. Can you send me the full .bib file off
 list? BTW, you see this error in the error panel?

 I see it, although it's a warning rather than an error, and a file  
 icon shows up.  Was this run through a pretty-printer (or maybe the  
 mailing list inserts space/newline)?  Openssl won't decode the  
 base64 string as passed into BDSKLinkedFile, but GNU coreutils'  
 base64 decoder will read it if you tell it to ignore garbage  
 (RFC4648 says not to insert newlines in base64 data, and presumably  
 spaces are also problematic).

 -- 
 adam


Yes, I see the warning now. Should be harmless.

I inserted the newlines for saving to avoid long lines. The base64  
parser in the Omni frameworks ignores garnage characters like newlines  
and spaces. We could always clean the passed in string from newlines  
and spaces before decoding, as we inserted them in the first place,  
but it's not necessary. Here's an excerpt from bibtex.g in the btparse  
source:

  * However, I've added some trickery here that lets us heuristically  
detect
  * runaway strings.  The heuristic is as follows: anytime we have a  
newline
  * in a string, that's reason to suspect a runaway.  We follow up on  
this
  * suspicion by slurping everything that could reasonably be part of  
the
  * string and still be in the same line (i.e., a string of anything  
except
  * newline, braces, parentheses, double-quote, and backslash), and then
  * calling check_runaway_string().  This function then backs up to  
the
  * beginning of the slurped string (the newline), and scans ahead  
looking
  * for one of two patterns: @name[{(], or name= (with optional
  * whitespace between the tokens).  (Actually, it first makes a  
pass over
  * the string to convert all whitespace characters -- including the  
sole
  * newline -- to spaces.  So, it's effectively looking for \ [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  
*NAME\
  * *[\{\(] (DLG regexp syntax) or \ *NAME\ *=, where
  * NAME=[a-z][a-z0-9+/:'.-]* -- that is, something that looks like  
the
  * start of an entry or a new field, but in a string (where they almost
  * certainly shouldn't occur).  Of course, there are no explicit  
regexps
  * there -- it's all coded as a little hand-crafted automaton in C.
  *
  * At any rate, if either one of these patterns is matched,
  * check_runaway_string() prints a warning and sets a flag so that we  
don't
  * print that warning -- or indeed, even scan for the suspect  
patterns --
  * more than once for the current string.  (Because chances are if it
  * occurs once, it'll occur again and again and again.)

So it's the newline in the long string in combination with the = at  
the end that triggers the warning.

Anyway, it's harmless.

Christiaan


 On 27 Jul 2008, at 9:23 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:

 Hello Knowledgeable Ones,

 after adding some new items in my Bibdesk-database I get three of
 these strange and new errors upon re-opening Bibdesk:

 possible runaway string at line… for three itmes.

 I cannot see anything obviously wrong with these entries, they have
 pdf-files attached. The last line below is marked, in this
 AACAQAoAAAC+g==}} 

 One of the bibentrys, BibDesk reports as with possible runaway  
 string
 started at line…

 @incollection{Noll:2000aa,
 Author = {Noll, Colette},
 Booktitle = {Zwischen Anpassung und Widerstand: Weibliche
 H{\a}ftlinge des KZ-Au{\ss}enlagers Haselhorst},
 Crossref = {Hilgendorff:2001:4856},
 Date-Added = {2008-07-17 14:22:40 +0200},
 Date-Modified = {2008-07-17 14:36:59 +0200},
 Keywords = {Eig. Promotion, SS, KZ, Zweiter Weltkrieg, Deutschland
 1918-1945, Elektroindustrie und Kriegswirtschaft, Zwangsarbeit,
 Siemens, SSW, SKG, S\H, Siemensstadt, Gartenfeld, Frauen,
 {\U}berlebende, Oral History, Colette Noll, Marguerite Metay{\'e}r,
 Fracoise Comte, Bildquelle},
 Pages = {91--92},
 Shortauthor = {Noll},
 Shortbooktitle = {Anpassung und Widerstand},
 Shorttitle = {H{\a}ftlingsliste},
 Title = {Liste der franz{\o}sischen H{\a}ftlinge des
 Au{\ss}enlagers Haselhorst, Sommer 2000},
 Year = {2000},
 Annote = {Ordner 42
 Hinweis: Aufstellung Stand 2000 enth{\a}lt Angaben {\u}ber
 verstorben oder nicht, zu diesem Zeitpunkt soll Marguerite Metayer
 also noch gelebt haben.},
 Bdsk-File-1 =
 {YnBsaXN0MDDUAQIDBAUGCQpYJHZlcnNpb25UJHRvcFkkYXJjaGl2ZXJYJG9iamVjdHMSAAGGoNE
 HCFRyb290gAFfEA9OU0tleWVkQXJjaGl2ZXKoCwwXGBkdJCVVJG51bGzTDQ4PEBEUViRjbGFzc1
 dOUy5rZXlzWk5TLm9iamVjdHOAB6ISE4ACgAOiFRaABIAGWWFsaWFzRGF0YVxyZWxhdGl2ZVBhd
 GjSDRobHFdOUy5kYXRhgAVPEQHSAAHSAAIAAAxNYWNpbnRvc2ggSEQA
 AADBcZtZSCsAAABz3/
 QOTm9sbDIwMDBhYS5wZGY
 ABcobnsSlCUhQREYgQ0FSTwABAAIAAAkgAA

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Skim, failed to reassemble attribute value on notes

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 28 Jul 2008, at 12:36 PM, Etienne B. Roesch (episto) wrote:


 Hi,

 I just updated Skim, thanks to the automatic update check, but  
 apparently the new version cannot read the notes I've included in my  
 pdfs, yielding to a message box saying that it failed to reassemble  
 attribute value.
 Easy to fix? Thanks much!!

 Best,

Unfortunately not. Which version of Skim did you use to save these  
notes? There has been a version of Skim that saved buggy notes.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Skim, failed to reassemble attribute value on notes

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Thanks Etienne, the problem you see has been fixed in 1.1.10. It is  
still present in the latest release of BibDesk though, so support for  
Skim notes will be broken there. That's less critical though as  
BibDesk only reads them.


Christiaan

On 28 Jul 2008, at 1:25 PM, Etienne B. Roesch (episto) wrote:


Unfortunately not. Which version of Skim did you use to save these
notes? There has been a version of Skim that saved buggy notes.


Hmm, not sure. I do regular updates, so I must have missed one or  
two at most.

I just downgraded to v1.1.8 and it solved my problem.

For information, I use extensive highlighting, and rarely other  
types of notes.


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] obscure error: possible runaway string started at line

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 28 Jul 2008, at 3:59 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:


 On Jul 28, 2008, at 2:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

 Yes, I see the warning now. Should be harmless.

 I inserted the newlines for saving to avoid long lines. The base64
 parser in the Omni frameworks ignores garnage characters like  
 newlines
 and spaces.

 [...]

 The heuristic is as follows: anytime we have a
 newline
 * in a string, that's reason to suspect a runaway.

 [...]

 So it's the newline in the long string in combination with the = at
 the end that triggers the warning.

 Anyway, it's harmless.

 In general, that warning is not harmless, so users shouldn't get in  
 the habit of ignoring it. Unfortunately, it will likely be quite  
 common now since = often appears at the end of a base64 encoded  
 string.


Perhaps we could remove the = padding at the end, and re-attach them  
if necessary?

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Firewall settings for sharing?

[Christiaan Hofman]

AFAIK, that's unfortunately correct.

Christiaan

On 29 Jul 2008, at 4:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am still using Tiger. Does this mean I cannot use this feature  
 without upgrading?

 -- Original message --
 From: Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 BibDesk does not use a fixed port for sharing. On Leopard you should
 be able to open the (Apple) firewall for BibDesk, as it is signed.

 Christiaan

 On 29 Jul 2008, at 3:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can share  bibdesk data over our local network if I turn off the
 firewall.  I have looked in vain for the ports to open to allow
 sharing with the firewall turned on.

 Are there ports to be opened for this?


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Sparkle?

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 29 Jul 2008, at 5:25 PM, Tony | Zearin wrote:

 Hi,

 Christiaan Hofman wrote:
 The answer in the tracker: perhaps when Sparkle gets to a bug free
 stable release vesion. That doesn't exist yet, but Andy is working on
 it.

 Christiaan

 Whoa, really?!

 I have tons of software that uses Sparkle.  Never had any problems  
 with
 it so far…



 —Tony


Yes, really. You can see here https://bugs.launchpad.net/sparkle/ 
+bugs that there are many bugs, including critical and high priority  
ones. And that's just in the latest beta, the latest 'stable' release  
has its own bugs. If others want to take the chance that's their  
prerogative. If you didn't have problems you're just lucky.

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Path implications when sharing bib files with Bdsk-File-1 entries

[Christiaan Hofman]

To be precise, it's a base64 encoded (keyed) archived dictionary  
containing a relative path and a file alias (an alias stores a full  
path and a file ID). It is designed to support a large range of  
storage procedures, as it can find a file by relative path, absolute  
path, and file ID (in that order). This means that you can
- move/rename the .bib file (as it stores full paths)
- move/rename a linked file (as it stores file IDs)
- move the .bib file and linked files together (as it stores relative  
paths)
- copy the .bib file and linked files togther, even between different  
machines (as it stores relative paths)

Christiaan

On 31 Jul 2008, at 2:12 AM, jbsnyder wrote:


 Hi -

 I'm wondering how the Bdsk-File-1 entries in bib files are encoded,  
 and if
 it should be relatively easy to have a centralized location where  
 papers can
 be stored and shared along with the bib file that references them.

 I'm guessing that Bdsk-File-1 might be something like a base64  
 encoding of
 the full path to the file, but I'm not sure.  I'm also not sure if   
 the
 file papers relative to each document might make sharing a bib  
 file with
 associated paper pdfs simple across different machines with different
 pathnames.  Are perhaps full and relative pathnames stored in the  
 bib file?

 Thanks in advance, I love Bibdesk :-)

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Skim, failed to reassemble attribute value on notes

[Christiaan Hofman]

BTW, if you want to fix Skim notes support in BibDesk, you can replace  
the skimnotes tool in BibDesk 1.3.18 by the one from Skim 1.1.10. It's  
located in Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/ and BibDesk.app/Contents/ 
Resources/ respectively.


Christiaan

On 28 Jul 2008, at 2:58 PM, Etienne B. Roesch (episto) wrote:



Ok, thanks!


Le 28 juil. 08 à 15:32, Christiaan Hofman a écrit :

Thanks Etienne, the problem you see has been fixed in 1.1.10. It is  
still present in the latest release of BibDesk though, so support  
for Skim notes will be broken there. That's less critical though as  
BibDesk only reads them.


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Skim, failed to reassemble attribute value on notes

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Could well be. I guess the file doesn't have many/large Skim notes?  
The problem is with reassembling the fragments of large notes data.  
When the data is small enough, it won't be broken into fragments, so  
no problem.


Christiaan

On 1 Aug 2008, at 9:01 AM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:


Interestingly,

Skim-notes content shows up in my copy of BibDesk (latest v.) alright.

Greetings,

Rolf

Am 31.07.2008 um 15:04 schrieb Etienne B. Roesch (episto):



Oh, ok, we'll see. Thanks for the feedback!


Le 31 juil. 08 à 15:13, Christiaan Hofman a écrit :

BTW, if you want to fix Skim notes support in BibDesk, you can  
replace the skimnotes tool in BibDesk 1.3.18 by the one from Skim  
1.1.10. It's located in Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/ and  
BibDesk.app/Contents/Resources/ respectively.


Christiaan

On 28 Jul 2008, at 2:58 PM, Etienne B. Roesch (episto) wrote:



Ok, thanks!


Le 28 juil. 08 à 15:32, Christiaan Hofman a écrit :

Thanks Etienne, the problem you see has been fixed in 1.1.10. It  
is still present in the latest release of BibDesk though, so  
support for Skim notes will be broken there. That's less  
critical though as BibDesk only reads them.


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Consolidating my Bibliography Chaos

[Christiaan Hofman]

This is definitely a bug. Though I don't yet see what causes it. And  
what makes it hard is that it crashes in Apple's private code. Any  
idea what configuration triggers this? It would be helpful if you  
could reproduce it with as simple a file as possible, best with a  
single item. I guess it should be an item for which the linked file  
does not exist on the computer? Though that by itself does not give me  
any trouble. So if you can give me as many details as possible about  
what may be non-standard with this linked file?

Christiaan

On 5 Aug 2008, at 12:46 PM, Stephan Kurz wrote:

 snip

 That worked as well. Unfortunately, it's not very responsive from home
 (not very fast internet connection, and need to use VPN to access
 university server), but it works, and I can access my papers from
 anywhere this way.
 All links were preserved in the scenario I thought of before (keeping
 master.bib in an SVN repository on multiple machines, all using BD
 1.3.18) in one direction.

 Now I got a serious error that crashes BD every time I try to open the
 version of master.bib that just worked well yesterday night (error log
 below). The one that I prepared on my work computer is still working
 there, but the one to which I added some pubs and linked files that
 were still lurking around on my PowerBook seems to be broken.

 Can anyone read the output below? Or may I send my bib file to
 somebody off-list to have a look at it?

 Thanks,
 Stephan


 Process: BibDesk [5032]
 Path:/Applications/BibDesk.app/Contents/MacOS/BibDesk
 Identifier:  edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk
 Version: 1.3.18 (1202)
 Code Type:   X86 (Native)
 Parent Process:  launchd [235]

 Date/Time:   2008-08-05 12:18:19.261 +0200
 OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.5.4 (9E17)
 Report Version:  6

 Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
 Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x756b2f73
 Crashed Thread:  0

 Thread 0 Crashed:
 0   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore0x00f0ae78 CleanPath(char const*,
 char*) + 366
 1   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore0x00f0a970 canonpath(char const*,
 char*, int*) + 234
 2   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore0x00f01b29 PathGetObjectInfo(char
 const*, unsigned long, unsigned long, VolumeInfo**, unsigned long*,
 unsigned long*, char*, unsigned long*, unsigned char*) + 465
 3   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore0x00f018ed
 FSPathMakeRefInternal(unsigned char const*, unsigned long, unsigned
 long, FSRef*, unsigned char*) + 97
 4   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore0x00f0188a FSPathMakeRefWithOptions
 + 46
 5   edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk  0x00171a72 BDSKPathToFSRef + 77
 6   edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk  0x001726f9 -[BDSKLinkedAliasFile
 fileRef] + 150
 7   edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk  0x001730a3 -[BDSKLinkedAliasFile
 updateWithPath:] + 294
 8   edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk  0x00171e21 -[BDSKLinkedFile update]
 + 42
 9   com.apple.CoreFoundation  0x944c1c85 -[NSArray
 makeObjectsPerformSelector:] + 565
 10  edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk  0x0005011e -[BibItem(Private)
 createFilesArray] + 783

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Consolidating my Bibliography Chaos

[Christiaan Hofman]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 This is definitely a bug. Though I don't yet see what causes it. And what
 makes it hard is that it crashes in Apple's private code. Any idea what
 configuration triggers this? It would be helpful if you could reproduce it
 with as simple a file as possible, best with a single item. I guess it
 should be an item for which the linked file does not exist on the computer?
 Though that by itself does not give me any trouble. So if you can give me as
 many details as possible about what may be non-standard with this linked
 file?

 Christiaan


And what may perhaps be more important is the .bib file. Where is it located
when you open it, is it on the computer itself?

Christiaan




 On 5 Aug 2008, at 12:46 PM, Stephan Kurz wrote:

  snip

 That worked as well. Unfortunately, it's not very responsive from home
 (not very fast internet connection, and need to use VPN to access
 university server), but it works, and I can access my papers from
 anywhere this way.
 All links were preserved in the scenario I thought of before (keeping
 master.bib in an SVN repository on multiple machines, all using BD
 1.3.18) in one direction.

 Now I got a serious error that crashes BD every time I try to open the
 version of master.bib that just worked well yesterday night (error log
 below). The one that I prepared on my work computer is still working
 there, but the one to which I added some pubs and linked files that
 were still lurking around on my PowerBook seems to be broken.

 Can anyone read the output below? Or may I send my bib file to
 somebody off-list to have a look at it?

 Thanks,
 Stephan


 Process: BibDesk [5032]
 Path:/Applications/BibDesk.app/Contents/MacOS/BibDesk
 Identifier:  edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk
 Version: 1.3.18 (1202)
 Code Type:   X86 (Native)
 Parent Process:  launchd [235]

 Date/Time:   2008-08-05 12:18:19.261 +0200
 OS Version:  Mac OS X 10.5.4 (9E17)
 Report Version:  6

 Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
 Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x756b2f73
 Crashed Thread:  0

 Thread 0 Crashed:
 0   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore  0x00f0ae78 CleanPath(char const*,
 char*) + 366
 1   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore  0x00f0a970 canonpath(char const*,
 char*, int*) + 234
 2   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore  0x00f01b29 PathGetObjectInfo(char
 const*, unsigned long, unsigned long, VolumeInfo**, unsigned long*,
 unsigned long*, char*, unsigned long*, unsigned char*) + 465
 3   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore  0x00f018ed
 FSPathMakeRefInternal(unsigned char const*, unsigned long, unsigned
 long, FSRef*, unsigned char*) + 97
 4   ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore  0x00f0188a
 FSPathMakeRefWithOptions
 + 46
 5   edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk0x00171a72 BDSKPathToFSRef + 77
 6   edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk0x001726f9 -[BDSKLinkedAliasFile
 fileRef] + 150
 7   edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk0x001730a3 -[BDSKLinkedAliasFile
 updateWithPath:] + 294
 8   edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk0x00171e21 -[BDSKLinkedFile
 update]
 + 42
 9   com.apple.CoreFoundation0x944c1c85 -[NSArray
 makeObjectsPerformSelector:] + 565
 10  edu.ucsd.cs.mmccrack.bibdesk0x0005011e -[BibItem(Private)
 createFilesArray] + 783


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Consolidating my Bibliography Chaos

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 7 Aug 2008, at 5:42 PM, Stephan Kurz wrote:

 Dear Christiaan,

 Thanks for your quick response. I have been busy doing other things,  
 that's why I only answer today. I have been trying to isolate the  
 items that cause BD to crash and found some items that trigger the  
 behaviour.

 And what may perhaps be more important is the .bib file. Where is  
 it located when you open it, is it on the computer itself?


 It is stored in a local working copy of my SVN repository.

 Situation (might help to reproduce) is the following.
 I am using BD 1.3.18 on my Intel iMac running OS X 10.5.4
 bib-file: stored locally.
 AutoFile preferences are set to /Volumes/myserver/somefolder
 /Volumes/myserver/somefolder is mounted via smb://
 linked files are standard PDF files

 There are 3 items in the file. The first two do trigger a crash, and  
 the last one doesn't. When I delete the Bdsk-File-1 fields of the  
 crasher items: no crash.
 That the last item does not crash BD is weird since I added the  
 linked files at the same step.

And all 3 are on your myserver volume?


 Probably it has to do something with the publication type  
 (@incollection)?

No, the type is irrelevant.



 If /Volumes/myserver/somefolder is not mounted, no crash happens  
 (that also counts for the full bib file with 841 entries), I only  
 get a lot of warnings in the style of
 master.bib   71  warning possible runaway string 
 started at line 52


Those particular warnings are not important in this case.

 If I mount /Volumes/myserver/somefolder while BD is open with either  
 the small bib or the full one, and afterwards select an item with a  
 linked file, BD crashes.


It only crashes when you mount when BD is open, or also if you mount  
before launching BD?

 small-crash.bib

 I hope that this helps to narrow it down. Should I file a bug report  
 on Sourceforge as well?


It probably is relevant that the files are on a separate volume. And  
it's important that the .bib file is on your local volume, so that  
should discard some possibilities. However strangely enough your crash  
report seemed to point to resolving your .bib file, so that's strange.  
Do all the crash report look the same (in particular the first 10  
items in the trace)? ATM I still haven't got a clue why it crashes.

Christiaan

 All the best, and thanks for your support (and for BibDesk!)
 Stephan

 Am 05.08.2008 um 23:21 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

 On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Christiaan Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 This is definitely a bug. Though I don't yet see what causes it.  
 And what makes it hard is that it crashes in Apple's private code.  
 Any idea what configuration triggers this? It would be helpful if  
 you could reproduce it with as simple a file as possible, best with  
 a single item. I guess it should be an item for which the linked  
 file does not exist on the computer? Though that by itself does not  
 give me any trouble. So if you can give me as many details as  
 possible about what may be non-standard with this linked file?

 Christiaan
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Consolidating my Bibliography Chaos

[Christiaan Hofman]

On 7 Aug 2008, at 7:14 PM, Stephan Kurz wrote:


 Am 07.08.2008 um 18:56 schrieb Maxwell, Adam R:

 On 08/07/08 09:50, Stephan Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It probably is relevant that the files are on a separate volume.  
 And
 it's important that the .bib file is on your local volume, so that
 should discard some possibilities. However strangely enough your
 crash
 report seemed to point to resolving your .bib file, so that's
 strange.
 Do all the crash report look the same (in particular the first 10
 items in the trace)? ATM I still haven't got a clue why it crashes.

 Oops, I did not check that. I have two different crash reports in  
 the
 thread 0 section. I copied both below.

 How long are the paths that cause a crash vs. the one that does not
 (as in
 number of characters)?

 /Volumes/6chars/literatur/Bohme-Fetischismus im 19. Jahrhundert.
 Wissenschaftshistorische Analysen zur Karriere-2000a.pdf
 /Volumes/6chars/literatur/Aspalter-Ironieverlust und verleugnete
 Rezeption_ Kontroversen um Romantik-2006a.pdf


Really? I thought the volume was called kurzs6.

 the ones above do crash, but not the one below not.

 /Volumes/6chars/literatur/Kubac-Notwendige Illusionen. Solidarische
 Anmerkungen zu bildungswissenschaftlicher-2005a.pdf


It's even the longest one. For the rest I see no relevant difference.  
That's really weird.


 Did you check the console log for any other error messages?

 There are quite a lot since I tried to reproduce the behaviour for a
 while deleting different parts of my file until I came down to 3
 items, so I just copy the last ones.

 Stephan


Well, all crash reports seem to point to the same point in code, in  
BDSKPathToFSRef. But I fail to see why that could lead to a crash, I  
cannot reproduce any crash using the code, trying to reproduce similar  
input. I get the impression it's got something to do with the  
particular volume.

Christiaan

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