Re: Um, does this make any sense?

2006-02-17 Thread Julia Thompson

Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

On 2/16/06, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://www.timecube.com/

I'll explain where I found the link after a suitable number of people
have expressed their bogglement.





What is this bogglement?  How can you not understand this page of
subsmissive [sic] obscurantism?  :-)

I think the thing on the page that scared me most is down at the bottom
where it says, Next Page...

Wow.  Maybe someone should introduce this guy to triangle man.

Triangle man, Triangle man
Triangle man hates Cubicle man
They have a fight, Triangle wins
Triangle man

Who knew that They Might Be Giants would come in this handy?

Mauro
(Obscurant enough for you?)


Oh, I *love* TMBG, and I love that album!  :D

I found reference to it in a comment near the end of the comment thread 
(now closed) at 
http://bartholomewcubbins.blogspot.com/2006/01/interverbals-blog-has-great-discussion.html

or http://tinyurl.com/8jsgo for anyone who needs the shorter link.

Julia
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Re: More lies exposed

2006-02-16 Thread Julia Thompson

William T Goodall wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4379422.stm


Abortion depression link queried

There is no credible evidence that women who terminate an unwanted  
first pregnancy are at a higher risk of depression, researchers say.


A recent US study had suggested having an abortion increased  
significantly a woman's chance of suffering depression.


But the authors of a British Medical Journal work looking at 1,247  
women say pre-existing mental health might be a better predictor of  
depression risk.


If there was a correlation, maybe it's that a woman more prone to 
depression is more likely to seek an abortion, i.e. causation going the 
other way.


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Um, does this make any sense?

2006-02-16 Thread Julia Thompson

http://www.timecube.com/

I'll explain where I found the link after a suitable number of people 
have expressed their bogglement.


Julia
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Re: Perspectives: Political Humour from John Cleese

2006-02-14 Thread Julia Thompson

I was going to suggest you should have checked snopes.com.  :)

And that was going around a few years ago.  I got it from a friend 
before we moved into this house, and that move was more than 3.5 years 
ago.  :)


Julia


Nick Arnett wrote:

Aw heck.  That takes all the fun out of it.

Not really.

Actually, I thought about checking snopes.com, but figured that's like a
pilot going to the flight surgeon -- nothing positive can happen.

Nick

On 2/14/06, Maru Dubshinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/revocation.asp

~Maru
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Re: Irregulars: C++ Memory Allocation Weirdness (not greatly helpful)

2006-02-11 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 09:21 AM Saturday 2/11/2006, Bryon Daly wrote:


On 2/10/06, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So is this right?:


It looks like it should successfully swap the byte order for you. You 
should

be able to test it easily enough by writing the same number once with the
swap and once without it into Mem.  Then print out Mem (or view in the
debugger) and see that they're reversed compared to each other.

I'm still not sure why you want to make everything big endian, 
though.  Is
it just to make it easier to manipulate the individual bytes at some 
later

point?  Personally, instead of swapping every value I wrote into Mem, I'd
probably code the byte manipulation routines to handle the little endian
order.





One little, two little, three little endian,
Four little, five little, six little endian,
Seven little, eight little, nine little endian
In little endian order.



I Can't Be The Only One Thinking Of This Maru


Well, I hadn't thought of it until you brought it up, actually  :)

Julia

Yet Another Tune To Stick In My Head (I have links for free downloads of 
a couple of the others if anyone wants them)

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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Julia Thompson

Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

On 2/6/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Feb 6, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:



So he's not going with the convention a number of other astromers
are using, referring to it as Xena?


If there´s any logic, it should be named America


Spoiler space
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Uranium, Neptunium, Plutonium, Americium :-)


Alberto crossed the streams of humor.





Spengler:  There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Venkman:  What?
Spengler:  Don't cross the streams.
Venkman:  Why?
Spengler:  It would be bad.
Venkman:  I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing.  What do you mean, bad?
Spengler:  Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously
and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Stantz:  Total protonic reversal.
Venkman:  Right.  That's bad.  Okay,  all right, important safety tip.
Thanks Egon.

:-)

I love that movie.


So do I.  You beat me to that.  :)  That has been quoted a lot around 
me.  And I have quoted it a lot, at least the every molecule in your 
body exploding at the speed of light bit.


Julia

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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-05 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert G. Seeberger wrote:

I keep on talking about my object as that thing we found or 2003 
UB313, which is a horrible name, said Mike Brown, a Cal Tech 
planetary scientist who discovered the object with colleagues Chad 
Trujillo of the Gemini Observatory and David Rabinowitz of Yale 
University.


It can't get an official name until it has an official status and 
right now it doesn't have an official status, so it can't get a

name, he said.


So he's not going with the convention a number of other astromers are 
using, referring to it as Xena?


Julia

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Re: Steelers!

2006-02-05 Thread Julia Thompson

Nick Arnett wrote:

Yay!  Although I normally shun television, with rare exceptions such the
State of the Union... I got my overdose of popular culture today
 and watch the Steelers, my old hometown team, get one for the thumb.

More than 20 years ago, I was covering the celebrations downtown (or
'dahntahn') and it was a little scary.

This year, I'll just cook dinner.

Nick


It was reasonably exciting.

Not, of course, as exciting as the last couple of Rose Bowls, though.  :)

I was bummed that we missed one of the Steelers' touchdowns.  Catherine 
likes yelling Touchdown! with me, and she was having her supper at 
that point.  (The boys don't care as much, but they're not as interested 
in sitting in my lap for good chunks of games, either.)


Julia
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Something that might be of interest

2006-02-04 Thread Julia Thompson

A Field Guide to Quackery and Pseudoscience:

Part 1:
http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2006/01/field-guide-to-quackery-and.html
http://tinyurl.com/bsejv
Part 2:
http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2006/01/field-guide-to-quackery-and_15.html
http://tinyurl.com/ahm9d
Part 3:
http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2006/01/field-guide-to-quackery-and_22.html
http://tinyurl.com/cxu4p
Part 4:
http://photoninthedarkness.blogspot.com/2006/01/field-guide-to-quackery-and_31.html
http://tinyurl.com/bl4t6

There are examples in the comments, even, if you're masochistic enough 
to wade through all of them.  :)  (Part 2 has comments going on and on 
and on and on)  Or even just enough of them to get the flavor.


Julia
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Re: The Radioactive Boy Scout

2006-02-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Patrick Sweeney wrote:

Hi folks,
I'm currently re-reading The Radioactive Boy Scout by Ken
Silverstein. It's the true story of a teenager near Detroit who tried
to build a breeder reactor in his back yard shed in the 1990s - the
EPA eventually had to clean it up. It's an interesting read, though
the author has a strong anti-nuclear stance. Anyone else read it?


I haven't read it, although I have read *about* it.


I originally read it along with Bobby Fischer Goes to War for an
obsessed prodigy two-fer. :)


Now, that sounds like a book I might enjoy.  Of course, I've already got 
plenty to keep me going for awhile.  (You know, you really actually have 
more time to read when the twins are infants than when they're toddlers. 
 Really.)


Julia

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Question for Aussies

2006-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson
What are the usual ingredients in a meat pie?  AFOAA (a friend of an 
acquaintance) has opened up a restaurant in Austin selling 
Australian-style meat pies, and I'd like to find out before I trek all the 
way down there whether or not I'm likely to be able to eat them (weird 
assortment of food allergies).  I could as Justin (the acquaintance) but I 
figured our resident Aussies would be a more knowledgeable source if 
information.


Thanks!

Julia
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Re: Question for Aussies

2006-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson

Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

On 1/31/06, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What are the usual ingredients in a meat pie?  AFOAA (a friend of
an acquaintance) has opened up a restaurant in Austin selling 
Australian-style meat pies, and I'd like to find out before I trek

all the way down there whether or not I'm likely to be able to eat
them (weird assortment of food allergies).  I could as Justin (the
acquaintance) but I figured our resident Aussies would be a more
knowledgeable source if information.





I'm not Aussie, but typically an Australian Meat Pie would have cubed
or minced steak, salt and pepper, beef stock, flour, soy sauce or or 
Worcestershire sauce, egg yolk (sometimes mixed with a small amount

milk or sugar for glazing the pastry), puff pastry, and water.  Some
recipes add thinks like onions, cornstarch, bacon, tomato sauce or
ketchup.  The most common secret ingredient is anywhere between a
pinch and a dash of nutmeg (it really does go with almost anything),
but some cooks will add garlic, cayenne, chili powder, or spices of
that ilk.  Some cooks also add veggies, but a purist would turn up
her nose at that :-)

Hth,

Mauro


I think it does.  Beef, then, with the possibility of bacon, and
vegetable matter I can live with.  I'd need to check into the bacon/no
bacon question, but that's easy enough to ask about at the restaurant, I
think.

Thank you!

(Any Aussies still wanting to weigh in, your input would be appreciated!)

Julia
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Re: Question for Aussies

2006-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson

Andrew Paul wrote:


Mauro's recipe is pretty good.. Not that I have actually ever made
one, just eaten plenty, but the thrust is correct. Basically meat
with meat and meat sauce, wrapped in pastry. Ones with bacon would
usually be clearly identified as such (i.e. Steak and Bacon) as would
often those with vegetables (Steak and Vegetables). I dare say onion
is probably used in even the most meat focussed however, but just to
flavour the juice. There are of course plenty of variants.. Lamb pies
being a personal fave, and now the more esoteric, which are just
taking things too far for mine, such as asparagus/truffle/chicken
pies or tuna and avocado pies. Verging on blasphemy. For the original
style:

http://www.post-gazette.com/food/2914australia1d.asp

Of course I cant be sure what someone in Austin is going to do to
them, but if anyone is going to do it, I suppose Texan's might go
close.

Football, Meat pies, Kangaroo's and Holden cars Maru


The Austinite in question was working in Australia (Dell moved him out 
there, he'd been working in Austin/Round Rock before then) for at least 
3 years and fell in love with meat pies, and thought that enough other 
folks in Austin would feel the same way that he could make a go at 
running a restaurant.  :)  (From the sounds of it, it's pretty 
affordable, as well.)


On the blasphemy list, turkey  avacado wouldn't be so bad.  (That's a 
combination I see offered for sandwiches, anyway.)  But something with 
lots of beef and some potato sounds really, really good to me.  He is 
offering some vegetarian selections (you can't open an off-beat 
restaurant in Austin and NOT have vegetarian selections, if you want to 
stay in business for very long), as well, but depending on what's in 
them, I might be more inclined to stick to the beef.


(Have I mentioned that I like beef?  Well, except I prefer chicken in 
Chinese (or quasi-Chinese, that would be a more accurate description) 
and Tex-Mex situations.  Mmm.  Tex-Mex.  Gotta get me some more of that 
in a sit-down place soon.  With a margarita.)


Julia

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Re: Question for Aussies

2006-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson

Russell Chapman wrote:


Sending us a message at 4am will always slow the response, especially
 with late cricket and the Commonwealth swimming trials the night
before :-)


I didn't know about the sporting events, but I figured when I posted 
that it would be a few hours before I got an authentic response.  Thing 
is, if I'd waited until I was more likely to get a timely one, I might 
not have had the chance to post.  :)


Did anything go the way you wanted it to?  Most of the NFL playoff games 
went (IMO) the WRONG way -- I think one weekend, out of 4 games, 2 went 
the way I really didn't want them to, 1 went the way I wanted it to, and 
the remaining 1 I didn't care too much about -- but I did care about 
that winning team being defeated at the next level.


Julia

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Re: Football, was Re: Question for Aussies

2006-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson

Dave Land wrote:

Julia wrote:

Did anything go the way you wanted it to?  Most of the NFL playoff  
games went (IMO) the WRONG way -- I think one weekend, out of 4  
games, 2 went the way I really didn't want them to, 1 went the way  I 
wanted it to, and the remaining 1 I didn't care too much about --  but 
I did care about that winning team being defeated at the next  level.



I don't post about sports, generally, but having been born in  
Pittsburgh and with a dad and brother in Seattle, I couldn't have  hoped 
for a better outcome.


Well, sounds like it's nice for you.

If someone had told me 2 years ago that I'd be rooting for Seattle in 
the Super Bowl, I'd'a' thought they were crazy.  :)


Julia
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Re: Football, was Re: Question for Aussies

2006-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson

Doug Pensinger wrote:

Julia wrote:

Did anything go the way you wanted it to?  Most of the NFL playoff 
games went (IMO) the WRONG way -- I think one weekend, out of 4 games, 
2 went the way I really didn't want them to, 1 went the way I wanted 
it to, and the remaining 1 I didn't care too much about -- but I did 
care about that winning team being defeated at the next level.



You know what bugged me the most?  The games were lousy, boring, sleep 
inducing crap.  Didn't the playoffs used to be the most exciting games 
of the year?


Then there was the officiating.


The officiating was the most annoying thing.

Then again, I'm used to being annoyed at the officiating in the 
playoffs.  I won't go into it right now, because it's not a good idea 
for me to raise my blood pressure this soon before I ought to go to bed.  :)


IMO, if we just had a bunch of Ed Hochuli clones, we'd be in better 
shape there.  (Yes, I have a crush on an NFL ref.  I think that 
particular one is more justifiable than the one on Nicholas Cage, which 
I've been seriously trying to get over since I found out what he named 
his son.)


I prefer nail-biter games.  Like the last 2 Rose Bowls.  Or those games 
when Adam Vinatieri wins the game in the last minute.  Those are good 
games.  Blowouts are boring.  (Unless you're actually in the stands and 
the drunk people around you are happy drunks and it's the home team 
that's winning.  Not that that's happened to me more than twice.)


Julia


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Re: What some women have always known . . .

2006-01-26 Thread Julia Thompson

Andrew Paul wrote:



Julia Thompson
Subject: Re: What some women have always known . . .

Deborah Harrell wrote:



Wasn't an article posted some time back about human
females selecting for humor in their mates, as a
possible driving force for larger brain capacity?  Or
was that in one of Himself's writings?


Selection for humor seems overrated when one is sleep-deprived.  :)

Julia

Personal Experience Maru



Would it be fair to say that the same is true of selection for sexual
prowess?

Supposition Maru


That wasn't what I was selecting for, so I can't really comment on that.  :)

Julia

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Brin: Something of interest

2006-01-25 Thread Julia Thompson

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/06/01/int06002.html

It's an interview with Mark Crispin Miller, an author who wrote a book on 
the stealing of the 2004 election.


I thought this would interest you, and it might interest others here.

This paragraph in particular made me think you'd be interested:

So the appointment of those two party agents to the FEC is an
especially brazen example of the Busheviks' subversion of American
democracy. Of course, the right would say, and probably has said, that
such a move is merely a pre-emptive strike against those evil liberals
who would stack the FEC to further their nefarious agenda. But that
would merely be the usual projective nonsense. Bush/Cheney's moves
against the FEC are moves against the possibility of real American
democracy. In this they are identical to the regime's deliberate
placement of religious maniacs and corporate goons atop the entire
edifice of federal power-slash-and-burn types running the Department
of Interior and EPA, creationists and anti-sex fanatics running
scientific agencies, and so on. Such flagrant strokes against the
public interest are not motivated just by greed alone, but by a deeper
animus against democracy itself - or, to be more accurate, against the
whole program of the Enlightenment.

It goes on from there.  This is just part 1 of an interview; the second 
part will be forthcoming at some point.


Julia

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Re: What some women have always known . . .

2006-01-25 Thread Julia Thompson

Deborah Harrell wrote:


Wasn't an article posted some time back about human
females selecting for humor in their mates, as a
possible driving force for larger brain capacity?  Or
was that in one of Himself's writings?


Selection for humor seems overrated when one is sleep-deprived.  :)

Julia

Personal Experience Maru
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Re: Having children 'is bad for your mental health'

2006-01-21 Thread Julia Thompson

Doug Pensinger wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:33:08 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 1/17/2006 9:37:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


You must have been spared the cliche of your parents starting to ask
on your wedding day how soon they could expect to become grandparents.




Au contrarie mon ami. I was not all spared this event.



I'll confess to being one of the guilty parents.  Except that I didn't 
wait until they got married.


We waited until it had been a few years since we were hassled about it.  ;)

Julia


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Re: Having children 'is bad for your mental health'

2006-01-19 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 12:16 PM Tuesday 1/17/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:


William T Goodall wrote:


On 17 Jan 2006, at 4:39 am, Ritu wrote:



William T Goodall wrote:


Enormous costs and intangible benefits that sound like members of a
cult :)




Hee!

So is this your new Cause then?



Just expanding my hobby of railing at human idiocies into a new area...
And I'm sure there's a connection between the evil poisonous filth of
religion and the pointless self-harm of procreation somewhere :)



Well, some religions teach that you ought to be having lots and lots 
of children.


Others teach chastity.  Those don't tend to stick around quite as 
long.  (I'm thinking of the Shakers)


And then some prescribe one behavior for one group of followers and 
the other for another group of followers.





Frex abstinence for the single and childrearing for the married?


Yep.  :)

Julia

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Re: Having children 'is bad for your mental health'

2006-01-17 Thread Julia Thompson

William T Goodall wrote:


On 16 Jan 2006, at 8:13 pm, Jim Sharkey wrote:



William  wrote:

The study's findings will make happy reading for couples who  have   
decided to enjoy the freedom and lack of responsibility  associated

with not having children.



This just in: living only for yourself is less stressful than taking
responsibility for the mental, physical and moral development of
another human being.



So why would anyone want to do that then?


Biological hardwiring?

And anyone not so hardwired is less likely to pass on whatever genes 
contribute to not being so hardwired.  :)


Julia
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Re: Having children 'is bad for your mental health'

2006-01-17 Thread Julia Thompson

William T Goodall wrote:


On 16 Jan 2006, at 6:54 pm, Matt Grimaldi wrote:


 William  wrote:


The study's findings will make happy reading for couples who have
decided to enjoy the freedom and lack of responsibility  associated  
with

not having children.




 Doug wrote:


Hmmm, having children can be extremely stressfull, but I can hardly
express the pride and satisfaction I feel having become a  
grandfather last

year.  I don't think I'd trade it for anything.



 Somewhere I've heard that the biological drive to procreate can only
 be completely satisfied by grandchildren. :-)  I have quite a few  years
 to wait before first-hand experience.

 As for those researchers, the fact that they seem to overlook
 is that having children significantly changes most of your  priorities.



What if one doesn't want to have one's priorities changed?


Then one should probably take active steps to prevent it.  Surgical 
sterilization is one option.  Abstinence is another.  Relying on having 
been told you can never have children is NOT wise -- I know a few 
mothers who were very surprised to find out they were with child.


And having the sense to actively decide not to procreate when one does 
not want to be a parent is laudable, IMO.


Julia
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Re: Fwd: How Texan Are You?.

2006-01-12 Thread Julia Thompson

OK, I'll answer a few of these.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:


[Don't blame me.  I'm only forwarding it . . . ]

7) How many cars and/or trucks are parked in your yard?
a) 15-20
b) 21-25
c) 26-30
d) beer


d


9) Country music is so great because...
a) it makes me cry
b) it goes good with fried food
c) they play it at all our favorite truck stops
d) Black people can't dance to it


a
Of course, that's not exactly a ringing endorsement


12) Complete the sentence: That ole boy
a) is slipperier than snot on a door knob.
b) is tougher than prison bacon.
c) is uglier than a mud fence.
d) is one little fork short of a fondue party


a


13) Women should...
a) never clean house unless they're naked
b) put gravy on everything
c) cost less
d) bait their own hook


d

Julia

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Re: Raspberry chipotle (or, is anybody home?)

2006-01-11 Thread Julia Thompson

Deborah Harrell wrote:

I tried a raspberry chipotle sauce, given to me over
Christmas break (also Kwanzaa, Hannukah, etc.!!), over
fish -- dee-lish!

Maybe I should have titled this cocoa additives...?

Debbi
Be Vewy, Vewy Kwi-at Maru  :)


I've just been eating my raspberry chipotle salsa with chips in front of 
the TV.  :)  The football games have dried up except on the weekends, 
though, so it's slow going now.  (I think I'll have consumed all of my 
jar before the Super Bowl, so I'll need to buy another jar just for 
that.  And then I'll need to find some other setting for consuming it.)


I think I saw a cranberry/raspberry something-or-other at one of the 
stores we went to at the outlet mall today.  It sounded interesting, at 
least, but they didn't have a sample jar open or anything nice like that.


Julia
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Re: MoMA and Pixar

2006-01-09 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 07:25 AM Monday 1/9/2006, Jim Sharkey wrote:


My younger two enjoyed seeing the exhibits as well, though my littlest
loudly proclaimed, upon seeing a statue of a naked guy, that His
weiner's hanging out, Daddy!  Yes, well, that's called art, honey,
and sometimes nekkidness just happens to be part of it.





Many of us, however, will never be referred to as art when seen naked 
. . .



Exposing Yourself To The Arts Maru


You'd be surprised as to what body paint can do.

Or does that not count as naked?

Julia

who worries about nekkid men getting burned in sensitive parts if 
they're nekkid during peak burn hours

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Re: Google: creator of the universe = FSM #1hit......News at 11

2006-01-08 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert G. Seeberger wrote:

http://www.venganza.org/

I am surprised at how often this site changes and how much it has 
grown.
I end up back there about every 6 weeks or so and it seems to greatly 
grow in content everytime I visit.

The funniest thing is the merchandising and the screensavers/desktops.
The worldwide popularity of the FSM puts a whole new spin on If god 
did not exist we would need to create him (where is that quote from?)


http://urlx.org/google.com/19ef


Heh.  I referred someone to the FSM site yesterday.  She didn't know 
what the Flying Spaghetti Monster was.  (At least, I'm pretty sure the 
person in question is female -- hard to tell online sometimes.)  She 
wanted to know what someone else's icon meant, and I got there first to 
respond first.  :)


I want a mug with the Michaelangelo-inspired FSM artwork

Julia
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Re: For those who read the articles, presumably . . .

2006-01-05 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Sirius Satellite Radio and Playboy Enterprises Thursday said they will 
be launching a Playboy-branded radio channel within the next few months.


http://www.physorg.com/news9621.html


I like some of the articles, actually.

But I'm not getting Sirius anytime soon.  (If I were getting satellite 
radio, I'd go with Sirius, because they carry all the NFL games.  Just 
don't really need it right now.)


Julia
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Re: Let's Roll

2006-01-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert Seeberger wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Let's Roll



Just stumbled on this this morning. It is an Unreal (the game) 
stabilized version of the Zapruder film.




URK!
Wrongo!
Its a quicktime stabilized clip.
I'm on some medication today and really really reading things badly.


xponent
MyBadMeaCulpa Maru
rob 


Is that any worse than my initial inclination to say I hope you get 
over your medication soon?  :)


Julia
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Re: Let's Roll

2006-01-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 02:31 PM Wednesday 1/4/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:


Robert Seeberger wrote:

- Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Let's Roll


Just stumbled on this this morning. It is an Unreal (the game) 
stabilized version of the Zapruder film.


URK!
Wrongo!
Its a quicktime stabilized clip.
I'm on some medication today and really really reading things badly.

xponent
MyBadMeaCulpa Maru
rob



Is that any worse than my initial inclination to say I hope you get 
over your medication soon?  :)




If a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down, does a spoonful of 
medicine make the sugar come up?



Non-Commutative Operations Maru


Not in my (admittedly limited) experience.

Unless it's syrup of ipecac, which should only be administered when you 
know someone has to be made to throw up.  (We haven't had that happen. 
Neither have we had to administer the activated charcoal.  Forcing 
hydrogen peroxide into a dog, on the other hand, has been done enough 
times that the older baster has been permanently relocated to be with 
the dog stuff.)


Julia
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Re: Let's Roll

2006-01-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 06:21 PM Wednesday 1/4/2006, Robert Seeberger wrote:


- Original Message -
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Let's Roll


 Robert Seeberger wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Let's Roll



Just stumbled on this this morning. It is an Unreal (the game)
stabilized version of the Zapruder film.


 URK!
 Wrongo!
 Its a quicktime stabilized clip.
 I'm on some medication today and really really reading things
 badly.


 xponent
 MyBadMeaCulpa Maru
 rob

 Is that any worse than my initial inclination to say I hope you get
 over your medication soon?  :)

Gak! Me too!
It has been a bad last two days.
First thing at work yesterday morning I had to run up 2 flights of
stairs on a jobsite (work is slow at the hospital so I am helping to
build TSU's new science building) and by the time I got to our lockbox
I couldn't breathe. I could take a deep breath, but it felt like I
wasn't getting any oxygen *in*. I felt too weak to work.
There was no reason I could think of to be feeling undue anxiety so
I'm thinking seriously that I was having a heart attack. After an hour
and a half of not getting better I left work and went home. I tried to
get a doctors appointment but couldn't get one til 4.
Breathing got a little easier at home and became tolerable enough to
take a nap after a couple of hours.
When I finally saw the doctor he gives me a prescription for
amoxicillin and hydoxyzine, an antibiotic for a lower respiratory
infection and an antihistimine to also take care of a rash on my arms.
I'm going to try to get back to work tomorrow but I'm still feeling
crappy right now.




Hope you feel better soon.

Unfortunately, I have that problem all too often, to the point where a 
doctor called it chronic bronchitis.  Given that that is often the 
diagnosis given to long-time smokers who have developed a chronic cough 
as a result of the damage to their lungs, and that was certainly not the 
cause of mine, I have to say that I got stuck with the illness without 
having any of the fun getting it . . .


(At Thanksgiving of 1981, I had some sort of flu-like illness which a 
doctor diagnosed as bronchitis and prescribed antibiotics which did 
relieve the congestion and cough.  However, the rest of the symptoms 
never got any better, and whenever I overdo—IOW, try to do even half 
as much as normal—the cough and congestion all come back.  So I now get 
to enjoy having chronic fatigue syndrome combined with chronic 
bronchitis.)



The Crud Maru


Today someone brought up (on another mailing list I'm on) symptoms of 
silent reflux.  They include hoarseness and chronic cough.


One of the reasons it came up was that someone just had her congestion 
and other unpleasant symptoms diagnosed as being due to reflux and 
asthma, neither of which she thought she had.  (So she's going to be 
treating those, and hoping she starts feeling a lot better.)


Me, I just scheduled a physical for later this month, and I hope NOBODY 
from this household has to go to the doctor before then.


Julia
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Re: URLx

2006-01-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert G. Seeberger wrote:

Try this link to see if it works.


http://urlx.org/amazon.com/0375



1)  There are only FIVE COPIES IN STOCK!  ORDER NOW!

2)  Needs more reviews.  Anyone?

Julia
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Re: Texas Wins!

2006-01-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert G. Seeberger wrote:

Wow!
What a great game!
Anyone could have won in the last few minutes.

One of the best games I've seen in years.


xponent
Vince Maru
rob 


41-38

That was the most intense 4 minutes I've had with clothes on in a very 
long time!!!


YAY HORNS!

Julia

happy happy alumna maru
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Re: Let's Roll

2006-01-03 Thread Julia Thompson

Horn, John wrote:

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Land

I know that other 9/11 analyses have been posted to this 
list, but I came across a one-hour documentary that concludes 
that it is more likely than not that the government was 
actually behind the attacks 



I have not had a chance to look at this video yet but I have looked
a several websites that claim the same thing.  They all seem to
hinge on the same thing: comments made under stress at the time of
the attacks.  Things like firefighters saying it sounded like a
bomb going off or something like that.  I have two major problems
with this line of reasoning.  One is that eyewitness accounts
especially under times of extreme stress are notoriously unreliable.
Also, people are always making comparisons like the above.  How many
times have you heard someone say a tornado sounded like a freight
train.  Does that mean that tornados don't exist and it really
*was* a freight train that destroyed their house...?  Or someone
saying that the aftermath of a hurricane looked like a war zone.
Does that mean that it really wasn't a hurricane but a super-secret
battle that happened during that rain storm?  


It's not tornados that don't exist -- freight trains are just carefully 
harnessed tornadoes, is what it is.  :)


(Yes, that's silly.  But that's what occurred to me when I read that.)


So, some firefighters said over the radio that something sounded
like a bomb.  So what?  That's probably what it did sound like.
That doesn't make it a bomb.


And then there's the question, is it a firecracker or a gun?  If you 
hear enough of both, you learn to tell the difference in sound.  Or so 
I've been told by someone who lived on a really bad street in DC for a year.


A bomb is just a particular sort of explosion.  If something explodes, 
there's a decent chance it'll sound like a bomb.


Julia
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Re: Words phrases that should be banished.

2006-01-02 Thread Julia Thompson

Dave Land wrote:

On Jan 2, 2006, at 5:09 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:


Gary Nunn wrote:



My bad - This is just bad grammar and silly slang. I cringe when  I 
hear

educated adults say this.



I was happy as heck to see the phrase Cowboy up go. I have no idea  
where it originated (nor any interest in learning), but was pleased  
that it was less than a flash in the pan.


I totally missed that one.  Just as happy I did.

I really hated good to go when I first was hearing it, but it doesn't 
irritate me so much now.  (When your first exposure is someone who is 
saying it 10-20 times A DAY in your presence, most of them when you're 
the only one around to hear, it gets old very quickly.)


For my bad I much prefer my fault.  Grammatically, it's a much 
better construction.


I'm hearing uh-oh and whoops a lot now.  :)  But I can live with that.

Julia

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Re: Media Myth # 1 missing..

2005-12-31 Thread Julia Thompson

Gary Nunn wrote:

I just realized that Media Myth #1 was missing from that ABCnews article I
posted a link to.  I did a quick search, and found this (see below) but
couldn't find the write-up on it


1. The rivers around New York city are toxic.


I e-mailed support and asked where that one had got to.  We'll see if 
anything ever comes of it


Julia

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Re: Media Myth - Guns Are Always Bad for Us

2005-12-31 Thread Julia Thompson

Doug Pensinger wrote:

I'm a realist when it comes to firearms in this country; we'd sooner ban 
pizza than guns.  But that doesn't negate the fact that they're a 
serious problem.


I'd sooner ban guns than pizza.  Not sure how my next-door neighbor who 
owns a pizza joint and a gun feels about it.  :)  I think he gets a lot 
more out of the pizza joint than the gun, for the most part.


But where I am, you'd have a much easier time banning pizza than guns. 
The pizza wouldn't be easy, though.  (Especially the stuff our neighbor 
makes -- it's really good.)


Julia


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Re: Cocoa additives

2005-12-29 Thread Julia Thompson

Gary Denton wrote:

On 12/18/05, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gary Nunn wrote:


2005/12/12, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



I like having something minty in my cocoa.  :)


One of my favorite winter drinks is a mug of hot chocolate, made with milk,
that has marshmallow peeps floating in it instead of standard marshmallows.
I find that the Christmas tree peeps work best... Or for the politically
correct on the list, I mean the Holiday Tree peeps work the best.  :-)


On a pagan-centric list I'm on (long story), someone posted about
finding a really cool artificial Yule tree.  (At Dollar General, no
less)

  Julia


I went to a couple Solstice parties a few years ago that had a  yule
log with natural decorations.  I see now yule logs are more often cake
desserts.


The Statesman had directions on how to make one, with pictures, no less. 
 :)  I've never actually eaten any of one.  (Not sure I've been to a 
function that had one -- the one I was going to most regularly that was 
likely to have that sort of thing, I last went to in 1997)


Julia



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Re: Merry Chrismakwanzahanayule!

2005-12-25 Thread Julia Thompson

kerri miller wrote:

To celebrate the season, I made this.  Dig in, there's plenty to share!

http://www.livejournal.com/users/kerrizor/374310.html


Whoa, wait, you're kerrizor?

You know Chuck!

Dang, it seems that over 1% of the people I run into randomly know Chuck 
-- and they tend to be the more interesting ones!


(Maybe it's not as random as I think it all is)

Julia
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Re: Have a Nice Winter Break...

2005-12-25 Thread Julia Thompson

Maru Dubshinki wrote:

On 12/24/05, Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Political correctness past moderation!

So, hope your Solstice was Soulful, and Merry
Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Kool Kwanzaa, and
Delightful Diwali (although that's a bit late, I
think!).

I just finished a costumed Christmas ride, Renaissance
dress for me and bells for Darby.  Fun!  Last night I
decorated the tree (cut on the property), and earlier
in the week I made rolled-and-cut sugar cookies (*no,*
not from a tube; from scratch!).  Got a few presents
to wrap yet, and part of tomorrow's dinner to start...

Debbi
Bashir The Cat Thinks The Tree Is For His Pleasure Maru




What? No Nice Newtonmas?  Or what about
our Flying Spaghetti Monsterism brethren?
And as always, those poor Discordian people
are totally neglected. I expected better of you.


OK, I'm a little fuzzy on the whole Pastafarianism thing.

What, besides September 19, is considered a holy day for the followers 
of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?


Julia

fnord
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Re: Flashback

2005-12-22 Thread Julia Thompson

Deborah Harrell wrote:

Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There's a song, They'll Know We are Christians by
Our Love.  



whiplash Whew, just got jolted back to Vacation
Bible School -- is that a Lutheran song, or generic
Protestant?  :)


Well, I learned it as an Episcopalian, and my Catholic friend across the 
street knew it, as well.  :)


Julia
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Re: The Tick (was Re: NZ devil Santas terrorise Auckland)

2005-12-21 Thread Julia Thompson

Jim Sharkey wrote:

Steve Sloan wrote:
Your post reminded me to check TVShowsOnDVD.com, to see if
there was any news about The Tick cartoon on DVD. No such
luck, but I voted for it on the site. Maybe one of these days...



I taped a bunch of the episodes when they first aired, so I have them
lying around somewhere.  Also, ToonDisney plays the show at night, I
think at 10:00 PM Eastern.  I'd have to check that, though.

Jim
SPOOO!! Maru


Not the face!  Not the face!

Julia

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Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-21 Thread Julia Thompson

Jim Sharkey wrote:

William T Goodall wrote:


Max Battcher wrote:


Last time I saw anything: 75-80% total, 50% or less of the Server
market, 50% or less of the nerd market.


Whatever the peak was it's certainly in decline now.



Yeah, Gates is letting his guard slip with all that sissy-ass 
philanthropy Bono's got him involved in.  He's *clearly* lost his 
evil overlord his edge.  :)


I'm not complaining -- some of that money is coming to near me.

Of course, between Dell Computers and Michael  Susan Dell, we get a 
fair bit of computer-money philanthropy in the area anyway.  :)  I think 
the Dell name is going onto at least a wing of the new children's 
hospital that's being built in Austin.  I'm sure a bunch of the 
equipment in it will be Dell stuff, as well; they were using Dell 
equipment for Tommy's upper GI series a little over a year ago at the 
existing children's hospital.


Julia

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Re: The ReichliKlan Scandal Cycle

2005-12-20 Thread Julia Thompson

The Fool wrote:
http://daoureport.salon.com/synopsis.aspx?synopsisId=a6da2e05-c808-4f7e-9ab2-3d2a01a82a15 

[snip]

8. Reporters and media outlets obfuscate and equivocate, pretending to
ask tough questions but essentially pushing the same narratives they've
developed and perfected over the past five years, namely, some
variation of Bush firm, Dems soft. A range of Bush-protecting tactics
are put into play, one being to ask ridiculously misleading questions
such as Should Bush have the right to protect Americans or should he
cave in to Democratic political pressure? All the while, the right
assaults the liberal media for daring to tell anything resembling the
truth. 


I read this just after reading Fred Clark's latest blog entry,
http://slacktivist.typepad.com/slacktivist/2005/12/god_save_the_ki.html
if you want to read the whole thing

The meat of that post, to me, was this:

quote
The White House's claim, essentially, is this: The president may do 
whatever he sees fit in order to keep the country safe. For some, those 
last seven words justify and legitimize the unlimited powergrab of the 
first eight. But many of us cannot accept the beginning of that sentence 
-- the president may do whatever he sees fit -- regardless of what 
follows.

end quote

That is the heart of the disagreement, I think.

Julia

p.s. thanks for giving me that opening for sharing the slacktivist link!
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Re: Communing with Satan in Madison Wisconsin

2005-12-20 Thread Julia Thompson

Dan Minette wrote:


Madison is not called MadTown for nothing. :-)  It's what Austin aspires to
be. ducking quickly


Austin would be fine if the Lege would stop invading on a regular basis.  :D

Julia

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Re: Communing with Satan in Madison Wisconsin

2005-12-20 Thread Julia Thompson

Dan Minette wrote:
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday,

December 20, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Communing with Satan in
Madison Wisconsin




Dan Minette wrote:



Madison is not called MadTown for nothing. :-)  It's what Austin


aspires to


be. ducking quickly


Austin would be fine if the Lege would stop invading on a regular
basis.


:D


I've got even worse news for you.  Teri is starting full time at
Austin seminary early next month.  We were up there yesterday
afternoon until this morning, moving some of our stuff into a small
apartment.  I expect to be there a few days a week, spending the rest
of my time working in the Woodlands.


I don't think this is bad news.  :)

I'm free for lunch some Wednesdays.

Julia
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Re: Help me identify 80's cop show...

2005-12-19 Thread Julia Thompson

Gary Nunn wrote:
 


http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/hills/1742/
Click on Made for TV near the end of the page, see if 
anything there looks familiar.  (And if this leads you to it, 
you have a guy named Scott to thank.)

Julia




Wow, give my thanks to Scott :-)

The eighth entry down on the page is it:  

BAKERY, THE (UNSOLD PILOT) CBS 1990. 
60 mins. Set in Police Station, in a burned out 
BAKERY.  Over the course of 3-time periods 
65/89/2001!!  **GREAT** (1) 



Now if I could only find a tape or DVD.


Actually, the guy with that geocities page may have it and be able to 
send you a DVD.  Check out his site more thoroughly.


Julia

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Re: Hiring Tech Support (Politically Incorrect, With Apologies Beforehand to Ritu)

2005-12-19 Thread Julia Thompson

William T Goodall wrote:


On 19 Dec 2005, at 3:45 am, Julia Thompson wrote:


Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

(I did hear from someone who said he has talked to Mujibar several  
times, and each time he gave a different name . . . )



Maybe Dell hires someone else.  :)  (Or were any of these occasions  
for Dell tech support?  Maybe I just get lucky.)



I know some (at least) call centres in the UK have a policy of  workers 
using false names since some unfortunate incidents when  unhappy 
customers have tracked call-centre workers to their homes to  continue a 
discussion.


Dan got burned by Dell Laptop tech support (for some reason, that seemed 
to be the only Dell tech support I heard horror stories about) and 
started asking for badge numbers at the beginning of tech support calls. 
 So he'd know who to refer to if he had to escalate to a manager.


Absolutely no problems with any of my calls -- but I've never owned a 
laptop myself.


(And laptop support may have improved since I heard all the horror 
stories.  Gateway, on the other hand, took entirely too long to resolve 
my friend's problem with her tablet.)


Julia

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Re: NZ devil Santas terrorise Auckland

2005-12-19 Thread Julia Thompson

William T Goodall wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/12/19/santa_rampage/

When St Nick goes bad

By Lester Haines

Published Monday 19th December 2005 13:45 GMT

The shaken residents of Auckland, New Zealand, are today recovering  
from a terrifying ordeal provoked by 40 rioting Santas who robbed  
stores, assaulted security guards and, shockingly, urinated from  
highway overpasses, as The Sydney Morning Herald reports.


[snip]

Austin Santa Rampages are a lot more polite than that.  Sheesh.  Anyone 
want to see the Austin Santa Rampage rules?


(I had dinner once with the Santa Rampagers in Austin three years ago, 
during the eat before drinking stage.  They're really cool.)


Julia

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Re: Help me identify 80's cop show...

2005-12-19 Thread Julia Thompson

Gary Nunn wrote:
 


http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/hills/1742/
Click on Made for TV near the end of the page, see if 
anything there looks familiar.  (And if this leads you to it, 
you have a guy named Scott to thank.)

Julia




Wow, give my thanks to Scott :-)


I sent him a link to your post.  He's glad to have helped you.  :)

Julia


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Re: Communing with Satan in Madison Wisconsin

2005-12-19 Thread Julia Thompson

Dave Land wrote:

On Dec 18, 2005, at 7:53 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:


The Fool wrote:


http://mediamatters.org/items/200512140012
O'REILLY: -- in the South, Richmond Times[-Dispatch], for example.  
BAIN: Right.

O'REILLY: Now, this is a conservative city, Richmond. I mean, this is
not Madison, Wisconsin, where you expect those people to be communing
with Satan up there in the Madison, Wisconsin, media.



Excuse me?  Everyone I've ever met that ever lived in Madison was a  
nice person, and not at all the sort to be communing with Satan.


Unless this guy equates Unitarians with Satanists, which would be  one 
of the most laughable things I've encountered this month...



Perhaps you're not familiar with Mr. O'Reilly: he's the right's front- 
man on, for example, the purported war on Christmas, and given to  
making vicious pronouncements about people anywhere to the left of  
Benito Mussolini.


I've heard so much about him I really don't want to watch him, I'll put 
it that way.  :P


Julia

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Re: A visit from St. Dick

2005-12-19 Thread Julia Thompson

Nick Arnett wrote:

On 12/19/05, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:13 AM, The Fool wrote:



www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/13982068p-14815643c.html

'Twas the month before Christmas
And as I lit candles,
Conservatives stirred --
They were onto a scandal.
They want to kill Christmas!


I mentioned this at a Christmas party yesterday, and one
of the guests shot back St. Dick: he's that guy who only
comes once a year...




Weren't you at a *church* Christmas party yesterday?

Hmmm.


The first exposure I got to that sort of innuendo (a little more 
innocuous, but still...) outside of stuff I was reading were my parents' 
friends from church.


The whole bit about the knocker was the one I remember most vividly.

Julia


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Re: Help me identify 80's cop show...

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson

Russell Chapman wrote:

Andrew Paul wrote:



That sounds like Chiefs, which I cant say I saw, and seems to be a
movie.

http://www.learmedia.ca/product_info.php/products_id/652

1983, but it has many of the elements that Gary noted, such as taking
place over a long time frame.
 


Charlton Heston as well! IMDB shows it as a mini-series:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084997/
3½ hours long - so it might not be what Gary saw, unless he saw it over 
several nights.
I found it amusing to follow Andrew's link and find characters like Foxy 
Funderburke, or Sheriff Skeeter Willis, or Hoss Spence.
I mean, even 50 years ago, what new mother is going to call her baby 
Hoss or Skeeter.


She's not going to name him Hoss or Skeeter, but he might have his 
daddy's name, or he might have the name of one or more of his first 
cousins, and nicknames like Hoss or Skeeter will identify him more 
precisely than Sterling if there are already 5 Sterlings out of 50 
male relatives in the county.


Julia  (slowly catching up)

and Red may be helpful unless half his cousins *also* have red hair
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Re: Fwd: Hiring Tech Support (Politically Incorrect, With Apologies Beforehand to Ritu)

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Mujibar was trying to get a job in India. The Personnel Manager said, 
Mujibar, you have passed all the tests, except one. Unless you pass it 
you cannot qualify for this job.


Mujibar said, I am ready.

The manager said, Make a sentence using the words Yellow, Pink and Green.

Mujibar thought for a few minutes and said, Mister manager, I am ready.

The manager said, Go ahead.

Mujibar said, The telephone goes green, green, green, and I pink it up, 
and say, 'Yellow, this is Mujibar.'


Mujibar now works as a technician at a call center for computer 
problems.  No doubt you have spoken to him.


Uh, no.  Everyone I've talked to on computer tech support that sounded 
like they were at least raised in India had better enunciation.


Of course, I was doing my best not to antagonize them, having been in an 
office with people doing telephone tech support for the clueless and 
uncooperative, and I figured it would go more smoothly for both of us if 
I did my best to be neither.  (One of them told me at the end of the 
call (when he told me I was one of the best customers he'd worked with) 
that he would sometimes have to spend several minutes convincing the 
customer to open the computer case to look inside; mine was open before 
I placed the call, as I'd already tried the re-seat the cards trick 
and figured it would be easier if I left it open until the problem was 
diagnosed.)


So if you're frustrated with your computer and need to call tech 
support, advice is:  Breathe.  Good, deep breaths.  Several, at least. 
Calm down BEFORE you pick up the phone and dial.  Expect the process to 
take 2 hours and plan the timing of the call accordingly; you will most 
likely then be pleasantly surprised when it takes 90 minutes or less. 
(Maybe a lot less!)


Julia
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Re: Fwd: Hiring Tech Support (Politically Incorrect, With Apologies Beforehand to Ritu)

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 11:53 AM Sunday 12/18/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:


Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

Mujibar was trying to get a job in India. The Personnel Manager said, 
Mujibar, you have passed all the tests, except one. Unless you pass 
it you cannot qualify for this job.

Mujibar said, I am ready.
The manager said, Make a sentence using the words Yellow, Pink and 
Green.
Mujibar thought for a few minutes and said, Mister manager, I am 
ready.

The manager said, Go ahead.
Mujibar said, The telephone goes green, green, green, and I pink it 
up, and say, 'Yellow, this is Mujibar.'
Mujibar now works as a technician at a call center for computer 
problems.  No doubt you have spoken to him.



Uh, no.  Everyone I've talked to on computer tech support that sounded 
like they were at least raised in India had better enunciation.




Note from the subject line that I only forwarded it . . .


Yes, I did notice that.  I just wanted to set the anecdotal record 
straight.  :)


(I did hear from someone who said he has talked to Mujibar several 
times, and each time he gave a different name . . . )


Maybe Dell hires someone else.  :)  (Or were any of these occasions for 
Dell tech support?  Maybe I just get lucky.)


Julia
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Re: Cocoa additives

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson

Dave Land wrote:

On Dec 17, 2005, at 10:42 AM, Jean-Louis Couturier wrote:


2005/12/12, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



I like having something minty in my cocoa.  :)



And it's just the time for it.  One of my favourite seasonal treats
is hot chocolate with a candy cane suspended from the rim of
the cup.  Stem goes inside, smallcanes are more practical.



If you permit yourself alcohol, peppermint schnapps is a fine
addition to hot ccocoa.


Ooo, yes.

Extract will do in a pinch.  (That, too, contains alcohol.  Wintergreen 
had the highest concentration last I looked, with 91%.)


Julia
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Re: Help me identify 80's cop show...

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson

Dave Land wrote:

On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:

She's not going to name him Hoss or Skeeter, but he might have  
his daddy's name, or he might have the name of one or more of his  
first cousins, and nicknames like Hoss or Skeeter will identify  
him more precisely than Sterling if there are already 5 Sterlings  
out of 50 male relatives in the county.



You really think that there are a lot of Sterlings up holler? I  know 
you're way behind on your email, but Sterling? That's a name  to get 
your ass a good whoopin' in some parts.


More like in the piedmont than in the mountains proper.

And I'm related to a Sterling, that's why I engaged in that particular 
piece of proctonomenclature.  (Is that the right word?)


One tradition in the old south was to give the first son the mother's 
maiden name as a first name.  So if the mother's maiden name was, in 
fact, Sterling, and she had a lot of sisters, you could have a real 
passel of Sterlings running around.


Julia

whose families avoided that one, and just used the middle name to pass 
along all the family names

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Re: Communing with Satan in Madison Wisconsin

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson

The Fool wrote:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512140012

O'REILLY: -- in the South, Richmond Times[-Dispatch], for example. 


BAIN: Right.

O'REILLY: Now, this is a conservative city, Richmond. I mean, this is
not Madison, Wisconsin, where you expect those people to be communing
with Satan up there in the Madison, Wisconsin, media.


Excuse me?  Everyone I've ever met that ever lived in Madison was a nice 
person, and not at all the sort to be communing with Satan.


Unless this guy equates Unitarians with Satanists, which would be one of 
the most laughable things I've encountered this month


Julia

and only one of them was a Unitarian, to the best of my knowledge

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Re: Cocoa additives

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson

Gary Nunn wrote:

2005/12/12, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I like having something minty in my cocoa.  :)




One of my favorite winter drinks is a mug of hot chocolate, made with milk,
that has marshmallow peeps floating in it instead of standard marshmallows.
I find that the Christmas tree peeps work best... Or for the politically
correct on the list, I mean the Holiday Tree peeps work the best.  :-)


On a pagan-centric list I'm on (long story), someone posted about 
finding a really cool artificial Yule tree.  (At Dollar General, no 
less)


Julia

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Re: Laws that should have been...

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson

Gary Nunn wrote:


A couple of things that should be laws in the US
 
1. Toys that come with McDonald's Happy Meals, must be approved by a panel

of parents that have children in the target age group, and drive in the car
with them for more than 10 minutes after acquiring the toy.
 
2. Any toy sold in the US that makes noise of any kind, MUST have a volume

or on/off switch.


I am SO with you on 2.

One brand to avoid is Shellcore.  (At least, the two worst offenders 
were that brand.  We're shed of them both now.)


Julia

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Re: Laws that should have been...

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson

Dave Land wrote:

On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote:

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:18:28 -0500, Gary Nunn  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


2. Any toy sold in the US that makes noise of any kind, MUST have  a 
volume or on/off switch.



Heh.  My mom always bought my kids the most anoying toys.  Things  
with whistles or electroninc drums.  I always wondered if she was  
trying to get back at me for something...



I heard a subtle way of dealing with this on the radio yesterday. Mom  
took the most annoying toys given to her daughter by Aunty and put  them 
on a high shelf, telling her daughter that they were her *most*  special 
toys -- so special that she was only to play with them when  she visited 
Aunty's house.


This could apply to most any toy made by LeapFrog, which, although  they 
are purportedly educational, are excessively chirpy.


The ones we have at least have some form of volume control.  (Phonics 
Radio and one other.)


My friend's father-in-law gives her daughter the most annoying 
battery-operated toys.  This was at least bearable until her daughter 
found out that batteries could be changed.  (This man drives a school 
bus for a living, and doesn't mind the kids making a racket as long as 
they stay in their seats, so he doesn't fully comprehend just how 
annoying these toys are for everyone else.)


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Re: Help me identify 80's cop show...

2005-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson


On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Gary Nunn wrote:

 
  
 I apologize if I have asked this here before, but for several years I have
 been trying to identify a TV show I saw in the mid to late 80's, late one
 night.
  
 It was a police show, and I think their police station was an old bakery.
 The show jumped back and forth and followed the same officers through three
 different time periods - maybe in the 60's or 70's, present day (late 80's
 then) and in the near future.
  
 I think it was a failed pilot for a series. I can't remember anyone who may
 have been in it. I have searched many times on Google with different terms
 as well as the IMDB.
  
 Anyone?

http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/hills/1742/

Click on Made for TV near the end of the page, see if anything there 
looks familiar.  (And if this leads you to it, you have a guy named Scott 
to thank.)

Julia

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Re: Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

2005-12-12 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert G. Seeberger wrote:

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case 
that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”


“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s 
just a goddamned piece of paper!”


I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they 
all confirm that the President of the United States called the 
Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”


And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States 
is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this 
group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that “goddamned 
piece of paper” used to guarantee.


Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, 
wrote that the “Constitution is an outdated document.”


Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It 
doesn’t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It 
doesn’t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not.  Despite 
our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the 
defining document of our government, the final source to determine – 
in the end – if something is legal or right.


Every federal official – including the President – who takes an oath 
of office swears to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United 
States.


I'd call him on that and ask if he's trying to perjure himself.  Or is 
that not reasonable?


Expletive.

Julia

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Re: Help me identify 80's cop show...

2005-12-12 Thread Julia Thompson

Gary Nunn wrote:


I apologize if I have asked this here before, but for several years I
have been trying to identify a TV show I saw in the mid to late 80's,
late one night.

It was a police show, and I think their police station was an old
bakery. The show jumped back and forth and followed the same officers
through three different time periods - maybe in the 60's or 70's,
present day (late 80's then) and in the near future.

I think it was a failed pilot for a series. I can't remember anyone
who may have been in it. I have searched many times on Google with
different terms as well as the IMDB.

Anyone?


No clue.  Want me to pass this along, though?  I might know someone who
might know.  (I'm almost frightened by what some of my acquaintances 
know.  That's more than mitigated by being grateful about what some of 
them know.)


Julia
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Re: Cocoa additives

2005-12-12 Thread Julia Thompson

Deborah Harrell wrote:

Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Why is allspice not good in cocoa?



snip 


On 12/9/05, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Not so good: allspice.



I didn't think that the taste enhanced that of cocoa -
not sure why; you might decide differently.  I didn't
like molasses in it either (I was out of sugar, and
desperate for chocolate...won't do *that* again!).


Oh, dear, if I'd thought about it just a minute I could have told you 
that molasses doesn't work with milk and chocolate


I'd much sooner try Karo.  (Even then, I shudder.)

(We use molasses for various things, and so have considered what it is 
good with and what it would probably be atrocious with.)


Juila

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Re: Cocoa additives

2005-12-12 Thread Julia Thompson

Deborah Harrell wrote:

Mauro the gourmand Diotallevi


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



My wife says that nutmeg goes with everything.  But
I personally have always
enjoyed mixing sweet with hot and spicy.  Think
mango and chipotle peppers
together, for an example, or papaya and cayenne.  Or
the mixture of
chocolate and various peppers in mole.



shudders  Sorry, I have tried mole several times and
found it very unpalatable; maybe it just wasn't
prepared correctly.  But mango-chipotle salsa sounds
delicious!


How about salsa made with peaches?  (Nicest use of peaches I can think 
of -- I'm very much un-fond of them in cobbler, frex!)



If you are adventurous, try a dash of Trappey's Red
Devil Sauce in your
cocoa.  Or a mixture of green chillies, ginger,
coriander, and cumin, like
you might find in an Indian curry -- I would leave
out the onions, garlic, tomato, and ghee :-)   



You *are* skating on the edge of sanity, sir; I wish
to _enhance_ the flavor of cocoa, not mangle it.  ;)

My years-ago trial of fresh ginger in tea with milk
was tongue-curdling; how do you mix ginger and milk
without that?  Or is it a matter of amount, or using
powdered ginger instead of fresh?


Well, the thought of candied ginger plus milk is revolting.  (I've eaten 
a lot of candied ginger for medicinal purposes -- it can help with 
morning sickness, and I had that in spades with my second pregnancy.)


Ginger snaps with milk are delightful.

I'll extrapolate that it would work better with powdered ginger.  :)


If you are really
adventurous, puree some soy milk,
butternut squash, peanut butter, and curry powder
and mix a little of that in with the cocoa.



Hmm, interesting.  That sounds like it would go better
with ginger instead of cocoa; perhaps I'm more of a
purist than I thought...


I'm with you on ginger vs. cocoa with all that!


Changing gears a little, if you're not planning to
go anywhere, a splash (or
more!) of a fruit-flavored mead would go nicely with
the cocoa.  A
blackberry mead should work well, or a mead with a
bit of oaky flavor.  You
might also want to try a good, sweet Canadian
icewine -- the ones from
Ontario are the best in the world.  For an extra
warming effect, try the
mead or icewine without the cocoa!



Kahlua.  Frangelica.  Bailey's MMmm...
(But not appropriate before heading out to the barn. 
Trust me.)


I like having something minty in my cocoa.  :)


And of course, any sweetener added to any of these
should be pure cane sugar.  



Why?  Sucrose ought to be sucrose, whatever the
source.

Debbi
Apparently Less Discriminating Tastebuds Maru   :)


1)  Someone might [shudder] add non-sucrose sweetener.

2)  Maple sugar or brown sugar is going to add flavor overtones that you 
probably don't want with your cocoa.  (Maple sugar in coffee is another 
matter entirely.  Not that I've done it, but I've read about it, and the 
person who tried it liked it, at least.)


Julia



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Re: RepubliKlan Amerika:Valtrex

2005-12-06 Thread Julia Thompson

Jim Sharkey wrote:

Andrew Paul wrote:


Skimming some fundamentalist web-sites, this caught my eye.
What if man did establish a lasting world peace? What would be
accomplished by this? Yes, it would be great on the surface to live 
on earth in peace, but what would be the long term effect? Answer: 
more sin, more rebellion, more infidelity, more atheism, and more 
apostasy!  Men don't seek God during peaceful times. It is during 
such times that men pursue their carnal and selfish dreams. It is 
during such times that churches fall into apostasy. War, hardship, 
and persecution tend to bring out the best in people, while peace 
and prosperity do just the opposite.



*blink*

Please tell me this is satire.  I'll grant you, the conclusion drawn 
in the above paragraph regarding when people turn to God is probably 
true.  There are no atheists in foxholes, as the saying goes.  But if

this guy is serious, he scares me.  A lot.


He probably *is* serious.  (If Andrew could provide the URL I might be 
able to check out the site and get a better idea of whether or not it's 
serious or satire.)


There's lots of awful stuff being said and done in the name of 
Christianity.


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Re: RepubliKlan Amerika:Valtrex

2005-12-06 Thread Julia Thompson

The Fool wrote:

From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

He probably *is* serious.  (If Andrew could provide the URL I might


be 


able to check out the site and get a better idea of whether or not


it's 


serious or satire.)

There's lots of awful stuff being said and done in the name of 
Christianity.



He Did:
http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/worldpeace.html


Missed it.  Thanks!  I'll peruse it after the kids have gone to bed 
(i.e., in 3-3.5 hours).


Julia



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Re: Donald Rumsfeld Is Mad As a Hatter

2005-12-06 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 08:08 PM Tuesday 12/6/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:


Hm.  Hatters were mad due to mercury poisoning.

CHELATION THERAPY

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelation_therapy

Julia

ok, maybe not, but the word chelation is pretty cool, isn't it?




Do you know what it means (w/o looking it up)?  IOW, the etymology of 
that cool word?


Actually, I looked it up earlier, so I couldn't tell you now what the 
etymology is without looking it up.  (I hit the Chelation article 
before the Chelation_therapy article.)


Julia

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Re: RepubliKlan Amerika:Valtrex

2005-12-05 Thread Julia Thompson

The Fool wrote:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/triggur/104525.html

I know a young woman who has the misfortune to have contracted genital
herpes.

She is on a daily regimen of Valtrex to prevent symptoms from
manifesting themselves.

Recently she took her prescription to a pharmacist who was apparently a
fundamentalist Christian.

Not only did he refuse to fill the prescription, but he tore it up and
handed it back to her, saying, God is punishing you for your sin.


Er, is that tearing up of the prescription legal in that state?  If not, 
she should press charges.


I know that in some places, the pharmacist has the right to refuse to 
fill the prescription, but it's illegal for the pharmacist to prevent 
someone else from doing so.


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Re: RepubliKlan Amerika:Valtrex

2005-12-05 Thread Julia Thompson

The Fool wrote:

From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Fool wrote:


http://www.livejournal.com/users/triggur/104525.html

I know a young woman who has the misfortune to have contracted


genital


herpes.

She is on a daily regimen of Valtrex to prevent symptoms from
manifesting themselves.

Recently she took her prescription to a pharmacist who was


apparently a


fundamentalist Christian.

Not only did he refuse to fill the prescription, but he tore it up


and


handed it back to her, saying, God is punishing you for your sin.


Er, is that tearing up of the prescription legal in that state?  If


not, 


she should press charges.

I know that in some places, the pharmacist has the right to refuse to




fill the prescription, but it's illegal for the pharmacist to prevent




someone else from doing so.



It's a new tactic being encouraged by the evildoers:
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2005/12/4/193316/139


If it's illegal, charges should be filed.  Period.  I'm aware of the 
problem (getting this from another online community as well!), and they 
need to be hit over the head with the legal system.


Valtrex is used to treat stuff OTHER than herpes contracted by sexual 
contact, and to prevent someone from getting the medication can be 
life-threatening.


If one of my kids were sick with something that Valtrex was needed for 
and the script was torn up by a pharmacist, I'd be on the phone to the 
county prosecutor in a heartbeat.  And if that didn't do squat, the 
state prosecutor, and if THAT didn't do squat, one of the local news 
stations.


On top of that, young children are sexually abused and can contract STDs 
because of abuse.  Are you going to tell an 11-month-old that the STD is 
its own damn fault and as a sinner it deserves to die?  [fume]


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Re: Defeat in Victory

2005-12-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 00:57:22 +1100, Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



I hate how terrorism and the war in Iraq have come to dominate debate
so. I notice that Gautam and JDG rarely post these days, and there is
no-one to staunchly dispute the centrist viewpoints we all seem to
espouse (Dan excepted). There is no right answer, we surely all know
that, but the debate to find one must go on, or we sink into
self-absorbed narcissism.

Other things are going on too. Is this the victory of Osama, that we are
so focused on fear that we forget the future?

My Belly Button Fluff Maru



I think that it is important that we debate Iraq and believe that part 
of the reason that supporters of the administration contribute to the 
debate is that their position has become so indefensable.


All that being said, I agree that there are many other interesting 
things to discuss and the list has become far too quiet.


Pump it up, people!


I *know* JDG has been extremely busy lately.  (I was hoping he'd come 
back to active posting before football season ended, but it's looking 
like he won't.)


I'm not going to jump into the Iraq debate except to ask for 
clarifications.  I have too many other things on my plate at the moment 
that are more important to me than formulating arguments one way or 
another for anything having to do with that.  (People currently not 
caring for several small children will probably have a different set of 
priorities, as they should.)


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Re: Defeat in Victory

2005-12-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 10:10 AM Sunday 12/4/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:

I'm not going to jump into the Iraq debate except to ask for 
clarifications.  I have too many other things





Would that number be 3?


Well, after Dan's outpatient procedure on Tuesday, it was more like 4 
for a few days there.  :P  Plus there's a room that needs to be cleaned 
out, half a garage that needs to be cleaned out, and as much of this as 
possible done by noon on Saturday.


Suffice to say, my RL is going to be just a letle hectic for the 
next few days.  (Probably not going to let up until a day or two after 
Christmas, actually.  I think I want to declare the 27th reading day 
and just encourage everyone to spend as much time as possible with 
books.  Tommy will love that as long as he gets read aloud to often enough.)


on my plate at the moment that are more important to me than 
formulating arguments one way or another for anything having to do 
with that.  (People currently not caring for several small children 
will probably have a different set of priorities, as they should.)


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Re: My annual Xmas tirade... Was RE: An armed society ...

2005-12-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 01:16 PM Sunday 12/4/2005, Gary Nunn wrote:


What
are these people thinking when they bring young children to shop for 
others

and then are mean and nasty to the kids because they naturally want toys
that they see?





Maybe they could not find a baby sitter (perhaps 'cuz everyone else they 
could call also wanted to be at Wal-Mart at 0500) and so had to bring 
the kids with them.


Hm.  My kids' daddy doesn't WANT to be at Wal-Mart on that day. 
(Neither do I, come to think of it.)  So if I really want to be at 
Wal-Mart the minute it opens, gee, I can leave the kids at home with him.


Are some of these parents divorced?

(Also, who gets a kid up that early anyway?  You don't want to ENCOURAGE 
them to be up at 4AM!)


Naturally, my daughter wants one of the special edition Nintendo DS 
games,

but there was NO WAY that I was going to join the feeding frenzy and act
like an idiot.  My son's mom (my daughter and son have different moms) 
, who
makes sure her kids always have the latest and greatest, paid almost 
twice

the price by buying the game and cartridge separately. She paid over $100
for the game cartridge on eBay. The game itself was a limited edition 
color

and the cartridge was only available in the Special Limited Edition
bundle, and was being sold on eBay by people who bought the game, but 
didn't
want the cartridge.  Saying that I am astounded would be an 
understatement.





Several years ago when Tickle Me Elmo was the hot, impossible-to-find 
item, I responded by getting one of the little 5-inch-or-so-high Elmos, 
tying a noose around its neck, and hanging it from the post my mailbox 
is attached to with a sign that said TICKLE THIS! pinned to its chest 
as part of my holiday decorations . . . (I suppose it may still be in a 
bag somewhere with other decorations where I put them after taking them 
down.)


Heh.  I sold a used one for $5 a couple of months ago.  (Elmo gets 
annoying after awhile.  They've managed to break the Hokey Pokey Elmo. 
 Unfortunately, what broke wasn't the part that controls the singing.)


(Haven't figured out a way to do anything similar with an Xbox . . . at 
least not for a financial outlay comparable to that of the miniature 
Elmo . . .)


If you had the use of one for an afternoon, to take measurements, you 
could probably make a decent mock-up out of cardboard, masking tape and 
paint, couldn't you?


Julia
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Re: An armed society ...

2005-12-03 Thread Julia Thompson

Dave Land wrote:

On Nov 30, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Robert J. Chassell wrote:


An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one
may have to back up his acts with his life.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, _Beyond the Horizon_, 1942



I am not much of a sci-fi fan, and I suspect that there may be one or  
two in this group, so let me ask: Is it Gospel because it is  Heinlein, 
or can one safely read this and say what a crock of shit?


I have a friend who is a fairly well-rounded geek (i.e., has read or 
seen a little of everything), and one evening in college (we were in the 
same dorm), I was walking by with two books, and he asked what they were.


Oh, I've got one by Heinlein and one by Dick.

Isn't that redundant?

Take from that what you will.

Julia

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Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-12-03 Thread Julia Thompson

Dave Land wrote:

On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

The only problem with that suggestion is that it's people who feel  
like you do who believe in gun control, while it's the  conservatives 
and the Christians who have all the firearms . . . :P



Not all Christians are fundamentalists. They're just the noisiest  
flavor of Christian on the market today.


I am a Christian. I own no guns, don't want to and favor reasonable  
restrictions on them.


I was going to say, I know plenty of agnostics, atheists and pagans that 
talk about getting a small group together to go to the firing range, and 
discussions about the merits of each local firing range ensue, and 
there's no ONE firing range that's great for everything.  (When I want 
to learn to shoot, I think I want Jerry (very areligious, but respectful 
of everyone's right to be religious, if that's their choice) to take me 
to Red's.)


Julia

who lives in a neighborhood where more than half the homes have guns, or 
at least extrapolation from the known sample would indicate that, and as 
long as nobody is getting drunk and then firing them, she's fine with that

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Re: Brin: left-right inanities

2005-12-03 Thread Julia Thompson

David Brin wrote:

Over at http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/  I am doing my
best to offend both left and right by appraising
exactly how many insipid stupidities of liberalism led
to our being ruled by right-wing morons.

Drop by and be ready to blink, wondering whether to be offended.


I'd be following your blog on a regular basis if you had an RSS feed. 
Can you get one?


Julia
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Re: Brin: left-right inanities

2005-12-03 Thread Julia Thompson
Thanks!  I didn't see any sort of link to it from the main page, that's 
why I missed it.


I'm all set up with it now.  :)

Julia


David Brin wrote:

Many people are already getting the RSS feed, Julia.

Try looking at  http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/atom.xml


Thrive  endure.

d

--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



David Brin wrote:


Over at http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/  I am doing


my


best to offend both left and right by appraising
exactly how many insipid stupidities of liberalism


led


to our being ruled by right-wing morons.

Drop by and be ready to blink, wondering whether


to be offended.

I'd be following your blog on a regular basis if you
had an RSS feed. 
Can you get one?


Julia
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Re: Br!n: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-12-02 Thread Julia Thompson

Warren Ockrassa wrote:

On Nov 29, 2005, at 7:22 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:

In the Phoenix area.  So not so close.  But I bet it's prettier where 
your stepfather is.  (For some definition of pretty, anyway.)



Depends. The Northern Mohave Desert tends to shade a lot toward olive 
drab, with pale rust basalt knurls all over the place. A couple years 
back it was unusually wet, so there were quite a lot of wildflowers to 
green things up, and the lichen had a banner year, deep forest and an 
almost canary yellow all over the otherwise fairly conventional stones.


What this part of the state has to offer in abundance is almost 
faultless nighttime skies. My lifelong love affair with astronomy began 
here.


As for Phoenix … well, I've always preferred Tucson.


I think I might, as well, if I ever got to experience Tucson.  :)

I love clear skies.  My first memory of really, really starry skies was 
when we visited my aunt in West Virginia.  It was gorgeous.  Then we 
moved to a house that didn't have a whole lot of light pollution around 
it at the time, and that was lovely.  The last time I was there, though, 
about 20 years after we'd moved there, it was pretty bad -- my house in 
northwest Austin had almost as good seeing.  :(  We're out in a 
less-developed area now, but I fear that in another 20 years, it'll be 
the same old story.  (As it is, forget the horizon in any direction 
except east.)


Julia

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Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-12-02 Thread Julia Thompson

Dave Land wrote:

On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:32 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:

The problem is that a lot of innocent people will suffer and die in  
the process. I guess that's why I vacillate between disgust and  
intolerance for such idiots, but never anything like a quiet shrug.  
So on my good days I'm often tempted to advise them to shut up; and  
on my bad days I'm more tempted to advocate firing squads.



I think there are a lot of people who advertise under the name of  
Christianity who need to be fired, and a fairly high percentage of  the 
present administration as well. :-).


When you talk about firing, I'm visualizing more the 
burning-at-the-stake sort of thing than rifles.


(For a pyrophobic, I spend entirely too much time with pyromaniacs.)

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Re: Br!n: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-29 Thread Julia Thompson

Warren Ockrassa wrote:

On Nov 27, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:


Warren Ockrassa wrote:


On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote:


Two very strong points.  Though please remember there
are some honest and intelligent Republicans.  I even
know a few.


FWIW, my state has McCain, and my stepfather is without question one 
of the most upstanding men I've ever known — and as a County 
supervisor, does his best to be a damn good Republican too.



Which county?  (My MIL lives in your state!)



Mohave (northwestern AZ). Where does she live?


In the Phoenix area.  So not so close.  But I bet it's prettier where 
your stepfather is.  (For some definition of pretty, anyway.)


Julia

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Re: Brin: AIs Nanos... dangerous children?

2005-11-27 Thread Julia Thompson

Warren Ockrassa wrote:

On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:05 PM, David Brin wrote:


Two very strong points.  Though please remember there
are some honest and intelligent Republicans.  I even
know a few.



FWIW, my state has McCain, and my stepfather is without question one of 
the most upstanding men I've ever known — and as a County supervisor, 
does his best to be a damn good Republican too.


Which county?  (My MIL lives in your state!)

Julia

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Re: White House Ghosts

2005-11-27 Thread Julia Thompson

PAT MATHEWS wrote:





Living in a fantasy world - you say that like it's a bad thing.






From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: White House Ghosts
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:37:47 +

Warren Ockrassa wrote:

 Lincoln replies, Go see a play.

 God damn, that's one of the best jokes I've read in a long time. That's
 Carlin level material, man. Was it original to you?

Few jokes are original, most of them are adaptations of previous jokes
with other presidentes, even some that got recycled from one country
to another.

Maybe one day I will create a Universal Joke Generator. I would have
something like a Universal Racist Joke Generator and a Universal
Character Joke Generator.

The Racist Generator is simple: enter your favourite race with racial
traits that you consider positive and negative, and the Generator sorts
races to scorn and races to praise.

For example, if you are a urs and enter human, saying that humans
are smelly, and that g'Kek and hoons are moderately smelly, the
Generator would say something like:

  The was a contest to see which race could stand for more time a skunk.
   The hoon entered a room with a skunk, remained there for 10 minutes,
  and then left, yelling that he couldn't stand it any more. Then the 
g'Kek
  got in, remained there for 20 minutes, and left, yelling that he 
couldn't
  stand it any more. Then the human got in, and after 30 minutes the 
skunk

  left, crying that he couldn't stand the human any more.

Alberto Monteiro



I heard that joke about the trapper, the skunks, and a politician.

Pat, grinning. Did you hear the one about the televangelist from Phoenix 
who died, and


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It's freezing cold down here! Get me a blanket!


Heh.

One day, the Devil goes to God to complain about what's been happening 
in Hell.


Billy Graham is converting everyone, and Jerry Falwell has raised 
enough money to put in air conditioning!


(That was one of my father's favorite jokes to tell.)

Julia

who has fond memories of the schadenfreude of a woman in her 70s on a 
day Falwell went on the air to plead for contributions to help cover 
what the IRS said he owed them

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Re: White House Ghosts

2005-11-27 Thread Julia Thompson

Doug Pensinger wrote:

Julia wrote:

who has fond memories of the schadenfreude of a woman in her 70s on a 
day Falwell went on the air to plead for contributions to help cover 
what the IRS said he owed them



Great word!  Had to look it up.


It's a very useful word.  :)  I use it conversationally a couple of 
times a month now, it seems.


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Re: Battlestar Galactica renewed

2005-11-27 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert Seeberger wrote:

I don't find the suits identical myself. They would look quite strange 
on the street here.

It's the ties that get me. Why are there ties?

The suit itself looks like a truncated version of the formal robes 
from the original series. The cut looks odd to say the least, and the 
colors are as out of place as the ties.

Query: What are the cultural antecedents for ties and for suits?


Can't help on the suits right now.  Check out
http://www.twilightbridge.com/hobbies/festivals/father/necktie.htm and 
http://www.shop-usa.info/TIE_HISTORY/tie_history.html

about the ties, see if those help at all.

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Re: RIP Ed

2005-11-24 Thread Julia Thompson

William T Goodall wrote:
Ed, our twelve year old greyhound,  was euthanised today just before  
noon. He hurt his leg on Friday which turned out to be a fracture  which 
turned out to be due to bone cancer. He'd been at the  veterinary 
hospital since Friday on painkillers while we waited to  find out our 
options. When we got the test results this morning we  went out to see 
him again and then he got the injection.


He will be cremated and we will scatter his ashes at one of his  
favourite walks. He had a good life right up until the end and we'll  
miss him.


I'm sorry to hear of your loss, and very glad he had such a wonderful 
life with you.


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Re: the US's stance compared poorly with that of China

2005-11-22 Thread Julia Thompson

Nick Arnett wrote:

On 11/19/05, Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dave Land wrote:


A specialist on torture -- he/she should not be what we expect
when we hear this expression. Torquemada was a specialist on torture.


I think Torquemada was a specialist *in* torture.



Ah, interesting. a specialist in X != a specialist on X?
A firefighter is a a specialist on fire, and an arsonist
a specialist in fire?




A specialist on fire needs a fire extinguisher, quickly.


Eh, two spotters with wet towels will often do the trick.

Unless you're using a loose enough definition of fire extinguisher to 
cover *that* situation, in which case I'll agree with you.


Julia

firespinning is a really cool performance art, but not one I feel 
terribly confident about undertaking myself

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Re: They've cloned the president

2005-11-22 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert Seeberger wrote:

It seems to me that the Media handled Nixon quite differently during 
Watergate and I might be unfair in expecting the media to photograph 
for posterity the emperers full frontal nudity rather than dance 
around the subject trying to pinch his behind.


That's impressive, to mention Nixon and full frontal nudity in the same 
sentence.  Would you mind if I linked to your post?


One of these days, I'll be able to get the mental image out of my mind. 
 [shudder]  :)


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Re: Things that make you Duh!

2005-11-20 Thread Julia Thompson

Jim Sharkey wrote:

Sometimes you read a gag, and many years later you get it, or at the
very least, you get where it came from.

For example, in _Peanuts_, whenever Snoopy was starting his novel, he
opened it with It was a dark and stormy night.  Now this, in and of
itself, is clearly him glomming on someone else's once classic, but
now cliched, novel opening.  So it's amusing.

But where it came from?  I had no idea.  Not one.  That is, until I
saw that my oldest daughter had received, from her mother, _A Wrinkle
in Time_.  And there, on the first page, right at the top, rested 
the following words: It was a dark and stormy night.


Then, all of a sudden, that old gag got just a little more amusing.


Uh, L'Engle was just following an already-practiced tradition.  It was 
originally used by Bulwer-Lytton.  And it would have been nice if he'd 
ended the sentence there, but he went on and on and on and on with it.


In fact, Bulwer-Lytton's sentence was SOOO BAD that someone decided to 
make a contest to come up with the worst opening sentence to a novel, 
and name it after the guy.


http://www.bulwer-lytton.com/

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Re: Time Waster 2

2005-11-19 Thread Julia Thompson

Robert G. Seeberger wrote:

http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/games/matter/



Sort of an intelligence test.


xponent
Too Slow Maru
rob 


Spatial intelligence.  Not the end-all, be-all for intelligence.

Julia


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Re: Irregulars Inquiry: how to judge unique, rivalrous item

2005-11-14 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 09:09 PM Sunday 11/13/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:


Ronn!Blankenship wrote:


At 12:39 PM Sunday 11/13/2005, Robert J. Chassell wrote:


For example, do you know whether the first Secretary
of the Treasury of the United States was born in 1747, 1755, or 1757;
do you know about his birthdate controversy?




No, but I know I have the same problem (although the dates are 
roughly a century and a half later) with my father's father's birth 
date, in that I have original or copies of three official records 
(census, marriage certificate, WWI service papers) which each give a 
different year (same month and day) for his birth.



How many census records do you have for him?  If you have, say, 3 
different census records, and 2 of them agree with either the marriage 
certificate or the WWI service papers, the year for which more things 
agree is more likely.


If the WWI papers give an earlier year of birth, he may have been 
lying to get in.


(Though I'm sure you've thought of all this already)




And I'm sure you can guess that those are the only three official 
records I have which contain his birth date. :D



--Ronn!  :)


Actually, I was guessing that there would be more than one census record 
available -- if he was in WWI, there would be the 1910 one, and unless 
he died there, the 1920 one, and the 1930 one is available, as well 
(unless he died before that one).


Of course, there is ample record of a certain ancestor of mine in the 
1860 census and the 1880 census, but absolutely no trace anywhere in the 
1870 census, so there's no guarantee of anything.  :)


(I don't think your ancestor had the excuse mine did of not wanting to 
have any contact with anything having to do with the feds on account of 
not having surrendered in 1865 or anytime after that  I'm trying now 
to remember if he was the one who got shot at Gettysburg.  I think he was.)


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Re: Irregulars Inquiry: how to judge unique, rivalrous item

2005-11-13 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 12:39 PM Sunday 11/13/2005, Robert J. Chassell wrote:


For example, do you know whether the first Secretary
of the Treasury of the United States was born in 1747, 1755, or 1757;
do you know about his birthdate controversy?





No, but I know I have the same problem (although the dates are roughly a 
century and a half later) with my father's father's birth date, in that 
I have original or copies of three official records (census, marriage 
certificate, WWI service papers) which each give a different year (same 
month and day) for his birth.


How many census records do you have for him?  If you have, say, 3 
different census records, and 2 of them agree with either the marriage 
certificate or the WWI service papers, the year for which more things 
agree is more likely.


If the WWI papers give an earlier year of birth, he may have been lying 
to get in.


(Though I'm sure you've thought of all this already)

Julia

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Re: Math Idol

2005-11-12 Thread Julia Thompson

Alberto Monteiro wrote:

If the writers of equations had an Academy Awards or a Pullitzer
Prize, the finalists might be Maxwell, Euler, Newton, Einstein, and
whoever can take credit for 1+1=2.



If I had to chose a _mathematical_ equation, without doubt 
it would e^(i pi) + 1 = 0.


Yeah.

Can I send an image file to someone to put on a web page somewhere?

(It has to do with the equation in question.  Really.)

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Re: Math Idol

2005-11-12 Thread Julia Thompson

Doug Pensinger wrote:

Ronn! wrote:

This is a question I have wondered before.  Is it possible to set up a 
web page for the list so members can share things like graphics?  Some 
of the commercial list hosts have a picture album associated with 
each list which can be use for such things.  If there's any concern 
about someone posting inappropriate content or people getting carried 
away and posting too much, I suppose it could be set up where the 
moderators have to approve posts to the album page.



Go to http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/brin-l, if you're not a member, 
join. If you are, log in.  On the left of the page is a list.  Click 
Photos, create an album and upload your picture.  I just tried it out.  
The upload is kind of slow with my DSL connection.


It looked to me like the upload itself wasn't slow, but getting the 
server ready took a little while.  (Cable modem.)


http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/brin-l/lst?.dir=/Math+%26+science+image+files.src=gr.view=t.url=http%3a//us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_1096702/Math%2b%2526%2bscience%2bimage%2bfiles/Box%2bbottom.jpg%3fbctLLdyBpukvKrG7.cx=150.cy=112.type=u

or http://tinyurl.com/awng8 (because I'm sure that sucker is going to 
have at least one line break!).


That's the bottom of a box I made when I was in high school. 
Needlepoint on plastic canvas.  It's basically 66X66 pixels to the 
pattern.  (If anyone wants to use it as the basis for their own 
needlepoint, have it and welcome!)


I have a picture of the top of the box, as well, but it's not quite as 
on-topic for the thread, so I have not uploaded it at this time.  :)


Julia

Crafty Nerd Maru
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Re: The Tweel

2005-11-10 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Wasn't that the name of the Martian in Stanley G. Winebaum's A Martian 
Odyssey?


That's what I was thinking.  Need to add it to my list of things to 
check in various books in the library when I have 20 minutes.  :)


Julia

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Re: Keyboard fetish.

2005-11-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Kevin Street wrote:

Gary Nunn wrote:


My favorite part, was the last line in a string of things to prevent
spreading the flu:

- During flu season, never let anyone lick your keyboard.



Too late. ;-)


If it's a cat or a dog, I wouldn't worry quite as much.  :)  I would 
wash thoroughly before eating, and not eat at the computer.


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Re: Keyboard fetish.

2005-11-04 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 08:53 AM Friday 11/4/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:


Kevin Street wrote:


Gary Nunn wrote:


My favorite part, was the last line in a string of things to prevent
spreading the flu:

- During flu season, never let anyone lick your keyboard.



Too late. ;-)



If it's a cat or a dog, I wouldn't worry quite as much.  :)  I would 
wash thoroughly before eating, and not eat at the computer.




Methinks you have already found good reasons to avoid the last one of 
those, even if you did not have kids, cats, dogs, or anything else in 
your house which has a tongue except perhaps really old shoes . . .


Oh, *eating* at the computer isn't the problem.  It's consuming 
beverages at the computer that may be spewed at the screen in the event 
that there's something amusing brought to me by the internet.  :)


Drinking at the computer isn't a problem as far as the hygiene stuff 
goes, especially if you use a straw.


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Re: Keyboard fetish.

2005-11-03 Thread Julia Thompson

Gary Nunn wrote:


An interesting article on the flu on MSN Health today.
 
Typical stuff don't go to work sick, wash your hands, yadda, yadda,

yadda..
 
My favorite part, was the last line in a string of things to prevent

spreading the flu:
 
- During flu season, never let anyone lick your keyboard.



http://articles.health.msn.com/id/100111267


OK, then, keeping the toddlers AWY from the keyboard would be a good 
idea.  (Although they're more likely to bite it.)


Of course, said toddlers have had flu shots.  (Which is more than any of 
the rest of us can say right now.)


Julia

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Re: Beer For Geeks

2005-11-01 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

At 09:43 PM Monday 10/31/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:


Ronn!Blankenship wrote:


At 06:18 PM Monday 10/31/2005, Robert G. Seeberger wrote:


  Beer for Geeks

DOS Beer: [snip]




I take it this was written before the appearance of BeerXP, much less 
Longhorn¹ Beer . . .

_
(¹Yeah, I know.  But Longhorn Beer actually sounds like a brand of 
beer . . . )



Longhorn Beer sounds like a brand I'd try at least once.




You presumably realize that taking a recommendation from a Mormon about 
beer — even a fictitious brand — may not be an optimal strategy . . .


Yes.

You presumably realize that a University of Texas grad might think 
anything branded Longhorn deserves at least a look.  :)


Julia

who could give Ronn! something else called a Longhorn if chocolate is 
OK for Mormons

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Re: Scouted: Turner Classic Movies to air 9 Anime Films

2005-11-01 Thread Julia Thompson

Jim Sharkey wrote:

The Fool wrote:


Every Thursday in January Turner Classic Movies will air 2 Ghibli
movies (3 on January 19th) starting at 8pm.



I've seen four of the six Miyzaki movies listed (Spirited Away, 
Mononoke, Castle in the Sky and Totoro, and I've heard good things about Porco Rosso and Nausicaa as well) and they're all excellent.

Even if you are not an anime fan, you should check them out; if
you have young children, My Neighbor Totoro is a must (Roger Ebert 
puts it on his list of Great Movies).  The other three you should
use your judgement as to what age is appropriate; I'd personally 
suggest a PG-13 approach for Mononoke and a PG for Castle and Spirited

Away.


What is appropriate for having on in the same room with a 2-year-old? 
(Kiki's Delivery Service is fine for that, IMO - is Totoro, or not?)


Julia
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