Re: [newbie-it] Mandrake9.1 hp scanjet 2300c
Alle 16:36, venerdì 6 giugno 2003, Daniele Micci ha scritto: ... In questi casi, oltre a continuare a cercare informazioni o provare a prendere contatto con gli sviluppatori del progetto SANE, è buona norma inviare una email al produttore: hai visto mai che HP, spinta dalle email dei suoi utenti, non decida di supportare Linux e rilasciare i driver o le specifiche perchè qualche sviluppatore open source li realizzi autonomamente? Buon fine settimana... Qualche iniziativa del genere c'è già Ne avevo viste alcune tempo fa, adesso con un'occhiata a google ho trovato http://hp-linux.org/ Non l'ho guardato bene. Forse è già utile. Forse, cercando meglio ... viene fuori qualcosa di utile Buona ricerca :-) ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] open-ssh e interfaccia grafica
Alle 13:37, lunedì 9 giugno 2003, Pollo ha scritto: Qualcuno conosce un interfaccia grafica per opens-ssh e più in particolare per scp. Quella che mi piacerebbe avere a me è sullo stile di gftp dove c'è una finestra sulla destra con il fylesystem locale e una finestra a sinistra con il filesystem remoto. Mi piacerebbe un'interfaccia così perchè devo usare spesso un filesystem remoto e copiare directoty e navigare nel filesystem diventa troppo pesante solo da console. Dimenticavo: mi interessa una interfaccia che non dipenda dalle librerie di gnome in quanto non volevo installarle... Grazie, Pollo. apri konqueror e scrivi : fish ://[EMAIL PROTECTED] credo sia ciò che cerchi :))) fammi sapere ciao francesco
Re: [newbie-it] Installazione rpm
Alle 01:13, sabato 7 giugno 2003, kua79 ha scritto: E' da un pò che voglio fare questa stupida domanda... Quando io installo un programma, in questo caso da rpm, dove cavolo me lo installa ?!?! i binari in usa dir di binari (es. /usr/bin), la documentazione tra la documentazione (es in /usr/share/doc/..), Come faccio poi a trovare il file per mandare in esecuione sto benedetto progr ?? A parte i tool grafici (ad es. quelo compreso nel MandrakeControlCenter), un man rpm ti spiega diverse cose (forse troppe ;-) ), tra cui: rpm -qlp pacchetto.rpm elenca tutti i file di un pacchetto NON installato rpm -ql pacchetto elenca tutti i file di un pacchetto installato ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] open-ssh e interfaccia grafica
Il lun, 2003-06-09 alle 15:04, francesco.melo ha scritto: Alle 13:37, lunedì 9 giugno 2003, Pollo ha scritto: Qualcuno conosce un interfaccia grafica per opens-ssh e più in particolare per scp. Quella che mi piacerebbe avere a me è sullo stile di gftp dove c'è una finestra sulla destra con il fylesystem locale e una finestra a sinistra con il filesystem remoto. Mi piacerebbe un'interfaccia così perchè devo usare spesso un filesystem remoto e copiare directoty e navigare nel filesystem diventa troppo pesante solo da console. Dimenticavo: mi interessa una interfaccia che non dipenda dalle librerie di gnome in quanto non volevo installarle... Grazie, Pollo. apri konqueror e scrivi : fish ://[EMAIL PROTECTED] credo sia ciò che cerchi :))) fammi sapere ciao francesco Perfetto, è prorpio quello che mi intendevo ti ringrazio. Ciao, Pollo.
Re: [newbie-it] fstab
Alle Monday 09 June 2003 18:44, a proposito di Re: [newbie-it] fstab (e chissa' a cosa pensava veramente), miKe ha scritto: Ueh miKe, ci si sente anche quì??? ;) internet è troppo piccola per tutti e due !! Il problema non e' sentirsi qui, ma da tutte le altre parti! -- Burp! Arwan
Re: [newbie-it] fstab
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 19:26, lunedì 9 giugno 2003, Giovanni Mazzamati ha scritto: Ecco, appunto.. Come scrivevo in precedenza il formato di fstab è: /device /mountpoint filesystem opzioni parametri_di_ceck Guarda il mio fstab sotto Slack: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gigi]# cat /etc/fstab /dev/hdb1swap swapdefaults 0 0 /dev/hda6/reiserfsdefaults 1 1 /dev/hda5/oboot reiserfsdefaults 1 2 /dev/hdb2/ohome ext3defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb3/olinux ext3defaults 1 2 /dev/hda1/win vfatnoauto,user 1 0 /dev/sr0 /sr0 iso9660 noauto,user,ro 0 0 /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy autonoauto,user 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 proc /procprocdefaults 0 0 //win/documenti /net/win smbfs noauto,user 0 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gigi]# Spero di essere stato chiaro Per provare prova a dare, da root; # Piaciuto il gioco di parole... ;-PPP mount /dev/cdrom -t iso9660 /mnt/cdrom Ueh miKe, ci si sente anche quì??? ;) Grazie a tutti, adesso funziona! Certo che è una faticcacia pazzesca togliere il supermount! Come mai a me il cdrom emulato si chiama scs0 e a te sr0? È una questione di distribuzione o che significa questa differenza? (Ovviamente non influisce sul funzionamento ma vorrei sapere di più) Sai che ho scoperto che Gigi in turco significa dolce? A me non piace e non mi faccio più chiamare così! Buonanottte Luigi - -- Sono stato picchiato, ma mi sono difeso bene. A uno di quelli gli ho rotto la mano: mi ci e' voluta tutta la faccia, ma ce l'ho fatta. -- Woody Allen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+5SuiTvJtVxCNwP4RAki2AJ9/ZE9Z/nrrxUJDYDoqBYNywvvCjgCdHxuG HU5Z/H0SqRV/Ekm1jzkbUTc= =/3Sv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie] Spammers
rikona wrote: Hello Dennis, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 2:38:24 PM, you wrote: DM Well I don't get much spam, but spamassassin has now been set up DM to use bysean (spelling?) algorythms and has caught 100% of the DM spam I have been sent. A question: does SA come with a separate set of 'rules', as SpamBouncer did? If not, how is it updated? Does the entire program get updated to keep up with the spammers? IIRC it uses Vipul's razor. Sir Robin -- Hackers appear to wear black more because it goes with everything and hides dirt than because they want to look like goths. - Eric Raymond Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Privacy in linux?
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 12:28 am, rikona wrote: Hello, There has been discussion about security, but little about privacy. Granted, Mandrake seems FAR less intrusive then M$ when updating, and with 'call home' programs. Thank you, thank you, Mandrake. It would seem that the primary risk is in the browser, chats, and perhaps in email. I'm starting to look at privoxy for increasing privacy in browsing. If anyone has used it, are there pre-configured files set up to protect against the common privacy leaks? Has anyone had experience in using the host file to block ads/snoops? Does it hang the browser in waiting for the localhost to time out if the host file is used [this is a problem in Opera, at least]. Has anyone used a DNS proxy to block ads/snoops? If so, are there pre-configured files for the common ad servers? How secure are the various 'wallet' programs in linux? I note that the Mozilla 'wallet' seems to point back to a server at Mozilla - not so hot, I'd think. In email, do any of the email clients go to the web for HTML references that might be in email? Finally, what has to be configured so that my local info is not sent with, say, finger, or some other probe? Did I miss any other privacy considerations for linux? In my experience privoxy works great out of the box for the vast majority of sites. I find it particularly easy to use with Opera and Galeon because those browsers allow you to put 'bookmarklets' on your task bar to get quick access to the privoxy config if you want to toggle privoxy, or customise its settings. I also find Opera runs faster with privoxy because it no longer waits for the last advert to arrive before rendering the page. (Although I think the latest Opera7.11 no longer has that issue anyway, and is in my opinion a *seriously* good browser) After using privoxy for some time I am always shocked when I use a computer away from home at how many adverts there are around the web. Privoxy makes surfing much more peaceful :-) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Re[4]: [newbie] Privacy in linux?
Hi again, I made a point of not using cookies on our gateway.. For the simple reason that you can't guarantee that the user will accept them or that the client is capable of accepting them.. personally I deny any cookie that isn't set to expire within a day of being set. You are correct about often the same techniques being used for spying, its sad that that is the case, but that doesn't mean that ecommerce should stop using them. Wait till paladium hits us.. then it will all be digitally signed and available to M$ and all its advertisers (agreed to via EULA) and the web will suck worse. quote I was talking about a different issue. It is true that my stored 'privacy info' is either blank or wrong, but the info I submit is correct. I also selectively accept SESSION cookies to store this info for the transaction. I DON'T accept it if this personal info is coded to stay in my computer until 2025. :-) Wouldn't an encrypted SESSION cookie take care of your concerns, assuming you could get enough user trust to accept it? /quote How do we validate that it was YOU that submitted that info if you show up as blank in all validation??? Cookies are not safe.. a combination of SSL, server session files and other things are far more secure. having said that, many clients dont' have their own payment gateways and rely on third party servers like the one I worked for. Problem is that they usually have some sort of cart, that links to the payment gateway. which links back to the cart (for receipts/email etc) So, we have HTML/forms that are part of the cart which must be validated by the cart as having been from the cart itself, then we have communication to the gateway (usually SSL by this stage) to be validated, and finially we have the return form the gateway to the cart. (usually not SSL unless they have their own Cert) To make sure all the communication between the users browser, the cart, and the payment gatway is all legit is a difficult task. Also take logging into account. our gateway stores no personally identity info at all, it does log IP address and the exact time of the transaction for some fraud info.. if someone tries funny business we need to know as much about them as possible.. so our gateway does a number of IP tests to ensure that should you be a nasty character, we at least have a starting point to come after you. The point is that if you don't have some valid data, we can't allow you to use the gateway because then we'd be opening the doors to all manner of fraud attempts. Right now, if you try using our gateway with any required info blocked, our gateway will redirect you to a page telling you why you can't be allowed to purchase. The web can be a nasty place for online stores.. don't punish the good guys (the ones that don't spam you silly or track you for advertising purposes). (our security was not limited to the above, we also created hashkeys of all form data to be validated at both ends to ensure its not changed and a number of other tests as well.. but nothing is perfect, we just have to do the best we can.) regards Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re[2]: [newbie] Spammers
On Sunday 08 Jun 2003 11:24 pm, rikona wrote: Hello Dennis, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 2:38:24 PM, you wrote: DM Well I don't get much spam, but spamassassin has now been set up DM to use bysean (spelling?) algorythms and has caught 100% of the DM spam I have been sent. A question: does SA come with a separate set of 'rules', as SpamBouncer did? If not, how is it updated? Does the entire program get updated to keep up with the spammers? Spamassassin runs a suite of over 50 tests http://eu.spamassassin.org/tests.html some of which are the conventional style 'look for strings common in spams', while others look for evidence of fabricated headers, others refer to online databases of known spam sources or known spam mail checksums. Finally the latest techique is to use Baysian analysis to calculate the probability of a group of words appearing in a spam mail based on a textual analysis of every mail spam and non spam you have ever received. See here for a description of Bayes algorithms http://www.paulgraham.com/spam.html Spamassassin does not rely on any one of these techniques to identfy spam. They all combine to reach a conclusion. See also http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=6669 Spamassassin does need to be updated periodically since spammers specifically set out to try to get low spamassassin scores, but updating consists simply of 'urpmi spamassassin' derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Copy/paste question
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 05:44, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hey gang. In all Mandrake versions before 9.1, I was able to highlight text in a shell then paste it into kedit. Under 9.1 I can't do this. Is there a workaround? Thanks! It still works here. Highlight, kedit, middle click, done. Does pasting work with other apps? Is it just kedit? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
I've been using Linux and Windows side-by-side (work/home) for a couple of years now. I've moved on from Mandrake 8.0 to 9.1, but I've never moved on to WinXP. So I was curious to see what it looks like when my father-in-law got it. Guess what! WinXP is for dummies! At least, that's what it looks like... I'd rather stick to Linux which is a serious computing environment. Regards, Hendrik Martin Disclaimer: http://www.sabc.co.za/disclaimer/emaildisclaimer.htm http://www.sabc.co.za/disclaimer/emaildisclaimer.htm Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Automatic start
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 08:18, Miark wrote: Hi all, I want to automatically run POPFile every time I boot, but I'm not sure where to put it. rc.local perhaps? It has to run from the root directory of the app, so it must do this, essentially: cd /usr/local/bin/popfile/; popfile.pl Miark Create a script and plop that executable script wherever, but call it from your /etc/rc.d/rc.local - that's your best bet, mate. -- Mon Jun 9 17:45:00 EST 2003 17:45:00 up 2 days, 3:36, 2 users, load average: 1.54, 1.42, 0.79 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of. -- Ogden Nash Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:53, Aron Smith wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake Linux Friendly is a really bad term to use. Any ISP that REQUIRES the usage of linux unsupported hardware is another issue. Any internet access is dependent on three things - a username, a password, and SOME means by which to gain and IP address from them. If you can get a stand-alone ADSL router that allows for you to plug it into either an ethernet card or into a hub, you can get DSL going. -- Mon Jun 9 17:50:00 EST 2003 17:50:00 up 2 days, 3:41, 2 users, load average: 1.60, 1.36, 0.93 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Is it a right to remain ignorant? -- Calvin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test n0 2
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 12:57, FemmeFatale wrote: you we'll call The Unnamed One...to utter it is to invoke evil I think... - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Isn't that just a nice way of saying Rat Bastard ? -- Mon Jun 9 17:55:01 EST 2003 17:55:01 up 2 days, 3:46, 2 users, load average: 1.17, 1.21, 0.97 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The young lady had an unusual list, Linked in part to a structural weakness. She set no preconditions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Copy/paste question
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 15:44, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hey gang. In all Mandrake versions before 9.1, I was able to highlight text in a shell then paste it into kedit. Under 9.1 I can't do this. Is there a workaround? Thanks! Now that's strange - I can do it quite easily (if I couldn't I would have really spat the dummy a long time ago!) -- Mon Jun 9 18:00:00 EST 2003 18:00:00 up 2 days, 3:51, 2 users, load average: 1.25, 1.25, 1.04 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The Great Movie Posters: She's got the biggest six-shooters in the West! -- The Beautiful Blonde from Bashful Bend (1949) CAST OF 3,000! 4 WRITERS, 2 DIRECTORS, 3 CAMERAMEN, 3 PRODUCERS! 1 YEAR TO MAKE THIS FILM -- 24 YEARS TO REHEARSE -- 20 YEARS TO DISTRIBUTE! BEAUTIFUL BEYOND WORDS! AWE-INSPIRING! VITAL! THE PRINCE OF PEACE PROVIDES THE ANSWER TO EVERY PROBLEM! Be Brave--bring your troubles and your family to: HISTORY'S MOST SUBLIME EVENT! YOU'LL FIND GOD RIGHT IN THERE! -- The Prince of Peace (1948). Starring members of the Wichita Mountain Pageant featuring Millard Coody as Jesus. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unaware
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 2:11 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Sunday 08 June 2003 04:37 am, Aron Smith wrote: I forgot that the winbox was running and I add WAS sometime in the last week It crashed and I never noticed Do you have any idea of when it crapped out? Anything over ten days should be in contention for the Guiness Book of Records. It always amused me that there was a bug in win95 that caused a crash after 43 days of uptime, and nobody noticed until five years after release. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need Help
Hi all Had my Laptop work until I made a time that it was time to reinstall Mandrake 8.0 now I can not install any version of Mandrake, RedHat this is what I get? The Laptop is Compaq Armada 3500, PII 266, 128MB RAM. RAMDISK: Compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 286k freed Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03 I think it is the cd/dvd player that is the problem have a UBS bruner but can not get it to boot from that drive. The Problem is that I am doing a design show for my dissertation which was develop on Linux Mandrake. The show is next Wed at my Uni was hoping for so help from you people might be able to help on this problem. Thank You Benjamin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newer versions of the kernel for 9.1
Try kernel.org ? Or do you need specific kernels for mandrake ? (in that case, I don't know) Steven On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 05:46, Guy Rouillier wrote: Where can I find later versions of the kernel for 9.1? I'm experiencing the ldm_validate_partition_table problem. I've looked on both pbone and rpmfind and neither of them appears to have new versions. pbone actually did have one a couple months ago (which unfortunately did not solve the problem), but now I can't find one there. Thanks. BTW, I searched MandrakeClub and didn't find anything there either. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[3]: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 02:49 PM 6/8/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hello Cody, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 1:10:05 PM, you wrote: CH It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. Perhaps 9.1 is faster. Also, I included the time to install apps as well, not just the OS (even though linux installed faster than Win2000). I put around 30 apps on each, and this is where the time difference really shows up. I can't tell you how tired I got from rebooting Win2000 for the 30th time. :-) Linux is clearly better in installing new apps. I don't restart after every install. Most of the time it runs anyways without a problem and restarting is unneeded. But if i do have to restart, i only restart AFTER i'm done. CH My friends all have Windoze. Likewise, but there is significant interest in other OS's. CH They send me windoze programs and we play Windoze games and run CH Windoze stuff. I run a LOT of Win apps, mostly 'serious' software. I rarely play games. If your main interest is in playing games, especially the very latest game craze, Win is probably better. Once and awhile it's good stress reliver if you play GTA3. -- Thank you, rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 05:50 PM 6/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: quoting Cody Harris's missive of Sunday 08 June 2003 02:10 pm: snip It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. That must have included the time required to figure out what the hell all of those packages were in the individual package selection type install, then deciding which ones you wanted. Granted it is a *really long* list but It only took me like 10 mins at the MOST. If that. This box is only a Pentium 3 500 MHz and it did _not_ take that long to do a *network* install of 9.1 from a network.img floppy. (This entails downloading and installing from a mirror. No CDs involved) From scratch! On a totally new unformatted hard drive. :-) That took just over an hour over my cable modem. Minimal install, just internet and multi-media workstation, and then added packages after (Open Office, games, xscreensavers, Texstars KDE packages, a few others); maybe another 30 to 40 minutes. What were you doing for the other (roughly) 3 hours? Installing Windows in your sleep? g Installing Linux. The biggest % was installing the packages. It took A LONG time. 200 MHz 32 MB. I used the CDs. My friends all have Windoze. They send me windoze programs and we play Windoze games and run Windoze stuff. -Cody Harris It almost sounds as though Windows may be right for you, and that's OK Cody. But please don't dismiss GNU/Linux in general; and Mandrake in particular, just because it's different and doesn't do things the Windows Way©. Two major points in relating a Mandrake (or almost any other GNU/Linux, but especially Mandrake) install to a Windows install: 1.) In Mandrake if the hardware in the box or attached to it is supported at all it installs, and is ready for use, when you first boot to user space. Printers and scanners or ZIP drives and flash readers will need some configuration probably, but not much else. Usually. Unless the user screwed something up at the summary screen. We all know who we are, don't we? :-) In Windows you have to be certain you have all of the drivers for everything in the box or attached to it before you start or you're hooped. I've had to chase down drivers for network cards, modems, printers, scanners, video, ad nauseum, for every Windows install I've ever been forced to help anyone with. This usually happens due to the standard My machine came with Windows preinstalled computer that the person bought needing Reinstall Windows every 90 days (at least) whether you think it's needed or not maintenance. It usually is. Then the operating system will whine about the drivers or refuse to load them. Cause they ain't signed. Which is a joke since the signatures are wide open and any cracker can fake them. Don't forget genuflections to the Gods of Redmond and Saints Steve B. and Craig M. Or is the requirement a virgin sacrifice this year? I can never recall. How many times will you have to reboot to register the drivers and (maybe) make things work? System restore? HAH! 2.) After installing Mandrake you still own the box. You have the option to connect to a network or the internet or not, decide whether to send any information to the distributor of the operating system. You _have control_ of everything that goes in or out of what you paid for. Can reboot as many times as your equipment will without running into the limited functionality warnings. You don't have to ask the owner's permission to listen to music, read a document, surf the 'net, watch a video. After installing Windows. Can you say Frisbee®? ;-) Regards; Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo (cooked) 16:23:54 up 26 days, 8:27, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.13, 0.11 Krogt, n. (chemical symbol: Kr): The metallic silver coating found on fast-food game cards. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 11:30 am, Cody Harris wrote: At 05:50 PM 6/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: quoting Cody Harris's missive of Sunday 08 June 2003 02:10 pm: snip It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. That must have included the time required to figure out what the hell all of those packages were in the individual package selection type install, then deciding which ones you wanted. Granted it is a *really long* list but It only took me like 10 mins at the MOST. If that. This box is only a Pentium 3 500 MHz and it did _not_ take that long to do a *network* install of 9.1 from a network.img floppy. (This entails downloading and installing from a mirror. No CDs involved) From scratch! On a totally new unformatted hard drive. :-) That took just over an hour over my cable modem. Minimal install, just internet and multi-media workstation, and then added packages after (Open Office, games, xscreensavers, Texstars KDE packages, a few others); maybe another 30 to 40 minutes. What were you doing for the other (roughly) 3 hours? Installing Windows in your sleep? g Installing Linux. The biggest % was installing the packages. It took A LONG time. 200 MHz 32 MB. I used the CDs. That really is odd. I installed 9.0 on a really ancient AMD board (around 5 years old) in around 45 minutes. It has a 400 processor and 128 MB ram - nothing specially good and a lot that's not good. It's very slow doing some things, but it works. Can't imagine what took so long. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re : urpmi mailing list
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 2:20 am, Gregory K. Meyer, CPA wrote: On Sunday 08 June 2003 08:43 pm, Johan Scheepers wrote: 2) After (1) is done - what to expect? ANy time you want to install something, just type urpmi oackagename. urpmi will download and install the app as well as any dependencies required. It's that easy. To remove something, use urpme. 3) Will you be able to pick what to update? If you prefer a gui (and the advantage is a short description of each package) you may wish to use Configuration Packaging Install Software (or Remove Software). The same can be found in mcc (Mandrake Control Centre) under Software Management. It does exactly the same as Greg told you - it just adds a gui front-end. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Solving needed packages
On 09 Jun 2003 00:37:49 -0400 Trey Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: How do I either satisfy the needed files or exclude these from a urpmi --auto --auto-select. I have tried the --allow-nodeps argument to no avail. first do this: urpmi.update -a then try again. don't do nodeps. bad medecine. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 06:47:40 up 6 days, 4:51, 4 users, load average: 0.10, 0.03, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Automatic start
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 8:46 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 08:18, Miark wrote: Hi all, I want to automatically run POPFile every time I boot, but I'm not sure where to put it. rc.local perhaps? It has to run from the root directory of the app, so it must do this, essentially: cd /usr/local/bin/popfile/; popfile.pl Miark Create a script and plop that executable script wherever, but call it from your /etc/rc.d/rc.local - that's your best bet, mate. So do you put the full-path-to-script in the rc.local? Something like /home/anne/popfilestart.sh ? (Totally ignorant question g - I'm good at them) Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Copy/paste question
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 6:44 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hey gang. In all Mandrake versions before 9.1, I was able to highlight text in a shell then paste it into kedit. Under 9.1 I can't do this. Is there a workaround? Thanks! Hi, Ronald. Have you checked the clipboard? For some strange reason it doesn't always select the entry you just made. You may find it's there, but you have to click on it to activate it. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My Audigy 2 Player has problems on Mandrake Linux 8.2 and Mandrake Linux 9.0
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 11:08 am, Stefan Boglou wrote: htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV PMynbsp;Audigy 2 Playernbsp;has problemsnbsp;on Mandrake Linux 8.2. My HardDrake doesn't locate it and at the startup it is locating it as audigy. My mixer setting are set to full but i still can't hear any sound. I tryed to upgrade to Mandrake Linux 9.0nbsp;and the HardDrake in the instalation was locating it as audigy of course i couldn't hear any sound. I tried to open the HardDrake but it crashed.BR/P/DIV DIV PFONT size=5STRONGUEMStefan Boglou/EM/U/STRONG/FONT/P/DIV Pe-mail: A href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/A /P/divbr clear=allhrThe new a href=http://g.msn.com/8HMWEN/2737??PS=;MSN 8:/a smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* /html Stefan - first, I had real trouble reading this, because you sent html only. html causes problems for many of us, though if you send in html and plain at least it is readable in KMail. OK - audigy. 9.0 should find it without problems. Mine is audigy platinum, not audigy2, but I wouldn't have thought that should cause problems. You say that harddrake crashed. Can you describe exactly what happened? How did you start harddrake, and what did you see? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X crashing problem
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 00:41, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 08 June 2003 07:03 pm, ed tharp wrote: and what are we doing about acpi, apm, apic, both in BIOS and software, and what is the AGP settings? also, does this MoBo bios rest to defaults when it crashes? (I mean when you have to power off by the switch, if ever?) Acpi and apic are turned off in lilo.conf, and apm is turned off under services. Don't remember BIOS settings for the first 2, but apm is turned off for all events in BIOS except to kick the monitor off after so long. The AGP settings in BIOS are all turned off by default except for post-write (IIRC). what about agp memory aperture? Its a Soyo Dragon Plus MB, I don't think it does reset. Anyways, the crash is not hard, just back to the shell. startx takes you right back to KDE. Thanks! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft to license UNIX code
I am almost at the top of the hill stage. She realises all of what you have mentioned. The genealogical software she uses isn't available on Linux. She has certainly been talking about wanting to use linux. What about gramps (genealogical software) as a replacement If it's a case of too much work already done to start again, why not consider running her software under wine, if it will, or win4lin? I have Generations 8 running under win4llin. It shouldn't be too hard though. Export a gedcom from one program and import into Gramps. Thats what we have had to do there though. Other problem is that if you are using 9.1 then you will need to get the gramps file from Mandrake Club. The latest release of gramps on the gramps site won't install under 9.1 Regards Trevor Rhodes === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.1 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951 Mandrake Club Silver Member Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === 21:35:21 up 8:32, 3 users, load average: 1.03, 1.04, 1.07 -- I may be getting older, but I refuse to grow up! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Re[2]: [newbie] Privacy in linux?
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 21:52, Frankie wrote: Hi Rikona, You are quiet right, for normal browsing you have (or should have) the right to be nobody. but for any sort of shopping, you are hurting youself more then anyone else by blocking any means to make sure you are who you say you are. Thats a very basic example, but you can see how being able to get your IP, referer and whatnot can make it much much harder for someone else to pretend to be you. Its still possibly to spoof all that, but it is much more complicated. If you shopping as nobody, your very easy to copy aren't you??? But most of the time (and this is one of the reasons that I will not buy on line) they want a lot of information before you can even price check an item rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of rikona Sent: Monday, 9 June 2003 12:13 PM To: Frankie Subject: Re[2]: [newbie] Privacy in linux? Hello Frankie, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 7:08:01 PM, you wrote: F privacy in browsering is cool.. And getting rarer with time. :-((( F just keep in mind that you have no right to expect ecommerce apps to work if F you make all authentication methods non functional... If I'm ordering something, I don't expect to be anonymous, of course, but why do I have to be authenticated if I am just visiting a site? Why would you force me to accept a cookie from someone who is trying to track my every move on the net? Why would I want to accept a script designed to snoop in my computer as much as possible? If I have trouble with a site, I'll go to another one. One usually gets a few in Google. :-) If EVERY site I find is disfunctional, I'll buy it locally if I can. If not, I'll call their 800 number and read the item from the screen. If at all possible, I will NOT deal with an intrusive merchant! F We have precious little authentication methods available to us now. F If people all start spoofing their details online then no-one can F expect this stuff to work anymore. Why not? Perhaps I am not understanding what you mean by authentication. F my point is turn it off when using online apps. It would seem as though that is where it is needed most. Am I missing something? It seems as though the basis for placing ads is to track every move of the user. A bit like someone following me around. I drive to a store, they record the path I took to get there. When I get out of the car, they follow me in the store. They record everything I look at in the store, especially if I pick it up, and if I come back to look that gets recorded too. If I buy something, the purchase is recorded. In many cases the name, address, phone, email address are sent to the advertiser to sell on some list for spammers. Now if someone was doing that physically, would you not object and consider it an invasion of privacy? Please tell me why it is so hard to build an app that just lets me visit and look around anonymously. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Automatic start
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 06:53, Anne Wilson wrote: So do you put the full-path-to-script in the rc.local? Something like /home/anne/popfilestart.sh ? That's it! (Totally ignorant question g - I'm good at them) Remember Plato: I only know that I know nothing (free translation from spanish). IOW, the more you know, the more you know you don't know. Corollary: we'll be newbie for good. (This doesn't apply to the Winblows world where every body knows every thing so they don't know that they don't know. Another corollary: Winblows = The Matrix) -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //mobile: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax : +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newer versions of the kernel for 9.1
On Sunday 08 June 2003 11:46 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: Where can I find later versions of the kernel for 9.1? I'm experiencing the ldm_validate_partition_table problem. I've looked on both pbone and rpmfind and neither of them appears to have new versions. pbone actually did have one a couple months ago (which unfortunately did not solve the problem), but now I can't find one there. Thanks. BTW, I searched MandrakeClub and didn't find anything there either. There has not been an official kernal update for 9.1 yet. You would have to try and build your own, or you could also try the Cooker kernel. If you do try the cookwe kernel, make sure you install it without removing your old kernel so you can boot back to it if stuff desn't work. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] XFCE4....er....starting?
Damn...thought I'd end my day with a new WM to play with - BUT THERE AIN'T NO DAMN STARTXFCE4 in the RPM's Ah well, ah hell...guess I have to muck around with it tomorrow... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE4....er....starting?
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 10:03:17PM +1000, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Damn...thought I'd end my day with a new WM to play with - BUT THERE AIN'T NO DAMN STARTXFCE4 in the RPM's Ah well, ah hell...guess I have to muck around with it tomorrow... Yeah, did you see the startup script on my d/l page? If you just save that as .xsession and make it executable it'll start when you startx. If you're using kdm or gdm, select default from the wm list. I now know how to add an entry to the wm list for kdm if you're interested! Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newer versions of the kernel for 9.1
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:02 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 08 June 2003 11:46 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: Where can I find later versions of the kernel for 9.1? I'm experiencing the ldm_validate_partition_table problem. I've looked on both pbone and rpmfind and neither of them appears to have new versions. pbone actually did have one a couple months ago (which unfortunately did not solve the problem), but now I can't find one there. Thanks. BTW, I searched MandrakeClub and didn't find anything there either. There has not been an official kernal update for 9.1 yet. You would have to try and build your own, or you could also try the Cooker kernel. If you do try the cookwe kernel, make sure you install it without removing your old kernel so you can boot back to it if stuff desn't work. Youcould try the mm kernel (it's on the disks). Why are you wanting this, though? The ldm_validate_partition_table problem only refers to the fact that there isn't a disk in a removable drive - it's harmless. Or is there something else? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] More about Bind...
Hello, I have recently followed a tutorial in the webmin docs on configuring the Bind DNS server, so I`ve added a domain and followed the tutorial as precisely as possible When I run host domain.com serverip It still doesn`t find the domain name. I keep getting: connection timed out; no servers could be reached Is Bind dependant on other programs that I might not have running? Thanks Yves Arsenault Carrefour Infotech 5,promenade Acadian Charlottetown, IPE C1C 1M2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (902)368-1895 ext.242 ICQ #117650823 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need Help
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:30:23 + Benjamin Jeeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Had my Laptop work until I made a time that it was time to reinstall Mandrake 8.0 now I can not install any version of Mandrake, RedHat this is what I get? The Laptop is Compaq Armada 3500, PII 266, 128MB RAM. RAMDISK: Compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 286k freed Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03 I think it is the cd/dvd player that is the problem have a UBS bruner but can not get it to boot from that drive. you could try booting from a floppy instead, Mandrake has floppy images for download, but I have doubts you'll be able to find one for 8.0. It actually sounds more like either a hard-drive or memory error, however. If it was the CD drive, it would *usually* be more of an all or nothing type of problem, ie. it wouldn't boot at all. Try the boot floppy and install 9.1 if you can, but I wouldn't recommend KDE or Gnome on that dinosaur! If push comes to shove, the last resort is to do a network install, which I did with my webserver, and there is a special boot floppy for that too! worked like a charm, it did! :) Check out the Mandrake site under Installation Instructions I believe. The Problem is that I am doing a design show for my dissertation which was develop on Linux Mandrake. The show is next Wed at my Uni was hoping for so help from you people might be able to help on this problem. Ouch! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 09:01:40 up 6 days, 7:05, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] XFCE4....er....starting?
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 08:13:54 -0400 todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Yeah, did you see the startup script on my d/l page? If you just save that as .xsession and make it executable it'll start when you startx. If you're using kdm or gdm, select default from the wm list. I now know how to add an entry to the wm list for kdm if you're interested! or just add to your .xinitrc like this: exec xfce4 (depending on case of course). -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 08:58:06 up 6 days, 7:01, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ADSL - mgmt.0 - how do I get this ?
I can't get mgmt.o from www.speedtouchdsl.com\dvrreg_lx.htm (the address supplied by ML9.1 install). I can't even see 'mgmt.0' mentioned on that site. I downloaded the 'SpeedTouch USB Linux driver' but all I got was a zip which expanded to two files - KQD6P1.eni and KQD6P2.eni. God knows what I am supposed to do with these, but I don't. (I have the old mgmt.0 - which worked with ML8.1 but doesn't appear to work with ML9.1) Advice how to obtain the current mgmt.0 appreciated. Thanks Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unaware
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:06:10 +0100 Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: It always amused me that there was a bug in win95 that caused a crash after 43 days of uptime, and nobody noticed until five years after release. ROFLMAO! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 09:16:05 up 6 days, 7:19, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 21:01:48 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: yes i call that sacriledge! Appropriating lesbian themes/icons/etc will be penalized by death!!! or castration... whichever comes first I enjoy more. :D I'll take the death, thank you...but can I see the Lesbian pr0n first? -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 09:19:03 up 6 days, 7:22, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: Linux viruses
On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 07:18:00 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I have no idea what it is and what it does or why it's needed. It's something that a lot of people use to guarantee that their e-mail is legit, which for some is really a necessity. HTML mail, however, is unreadable by many on the list who use mail clients in text mode or various other reasons. That is why on the sign-up page it asks nicely to send in plain text only. The GPG sig causes *no* problems for anyone, therefore it is not an issue on the list. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 09:21:08 up 6 days, 7:24, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] DSL
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL A slight correction: Internet access requires an IP address. My ISP (speakeasy.net) figures that if I'm on the end of my particular DSL line, I must be me, or at least authorized by me to use the 'net. soapbox usernames and passwords are required for more draconian ISP's who can't understand their hardware well enough to figure out who's on the end of which wire. /soapbox --Matthew -Original Message- From: Stephen Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:53, Aron Smith wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake Linux Friendly is a really bad term to use. Any ISP that REQUIRES the usage of linux unsupported hardware is another issue. Any internet access is dependent on three things - a username, a password, and SOME means by which to gain and IP address from them. If you can get a stand-alone ADSL router that allows for you to plug it into either an ethernet card or into a hub, you can get DSL going. -- Mon Jun 9 17:50:00 EST 2003 17:50:00 up 2 days, 3:41, 2 users, load average: 1.60, 1.36, 0.93 - | __ __ |kuhn media australia | | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Is it a right to remain ignorant? -- Calvin
Re: [newbie] ADSL - mgmt.0 - how do I get this ?
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:37 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: I can't get mgmt.o from www.speedtouchdsl.com\dvrreg_lx.htm (the address supplied by ML9.1 install). I can't even see 'mgmt.0' mentioned on that site. I downloaded the 'SpeedTouch USB Linux driver' but all I got was a zip which expanded to two files - KQD6P1.eni and KQD6P2.eni. God knows what I am supposed to do with these, but I don't. (I have the old mgmt.0 - which worked with ML8.1 but doesn't appear to work with ML9.1) Advice how to obtain the current mgmt.0 appreciated. Thanks Dave http://www.mandrakeusers.org/downloads.php?sid=684ba8fb8d34c9562a59612e91c934e0 -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux game help
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 04:25:03 -0500 Saud N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: i put in my coutnerstrike cd and i want to know how to run setup.exec you got a ways to go, my friend! For Counterstrike to work under Mandrake (thanks to Valve for never releasing Linux installers or binaries), you will need to use Winex (Google it!). There is a free version for download, but it is not *easy* to install, and may be impossible unless you installed all the Development packages when you installed Mandrake. If you want to give it a try, there are tutorials for installing Winex from CVS (the free version), or you could pay the people that put out Winex 5 bucks a month subscription fee and get a nice installer in RPM format. lol sounds NOOB but i just now converted form windows and have no internet connection on theat comoputer we all start out as NOOBs, don't worry about it. You can, however, play all three Quakes and Unreal Tournament on Linux without Winex, as well as many others. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 09:27:20 up 6 days, 7:31, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape
On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: Login as root, and go to this page: http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048 Download the plugin and you are all set. That did it, Troy - Thanks! Rich
Re: [newbie] Copy/paste question
On Monday 09 June 2003 01:29 pm, Brian Parish wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 05:44, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hey gang. In all Mandrake versions before 9.1, I was able to highlight text in a shell then paste it into kedit. Under 9.1 I can't do this. Is there a workaround? Thanks! It still works here. Highlight, kedit, middle click, done. Does pasting work with other apps? Is it just kedit? Works fine from say, web sights to kedit, or kedit to kedit... Or Klipper to kedit. Odd eh? -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Copy/paste question
On Monday 09 June 2003 06:56 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 Jun 2003 6:44 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hey gang. In all Mandrake versions before 9.1, I was able to highlight text in a shell then paste it into kedit. Under 9.1 I can't do this. Is there a workaround? Thanks! Hi, Ronald. Have you checked the clipboard? For some strange reason it doesn't always select the entry you just made. You may find it's there, but you have to click on it to activate it. Anne Hi Anne. I can bring up klipper after highlighting text in eterm and grab it that way. Its an extra step though. I'm used to just grabbing it from eterm, and a simple middle mouse button click puts it anywhere I want it to go. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X crashing problem
On Monday 09 June 2003 07:20 am, ed tharp wrote: what about agp memory aperture? I have a 64 meg Ti4200 Nvidia card so I set the aperture to 64 megs. Is that okay? -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mini ITX form factor
Title: RE: [newbie] Mini ITX form factor I had 7.2, 8.x and 9.x all running at one time or another on a mini ITX with 1.0Ghz Celeron. All installed without much difficulty. I agree with the below observation that they aren't all that good at graphics, but they're more that up to OGG/MP3 etc. BTW, anyone got a lead on a miniITX with 12V porew input, or a 12V power supply for one? I've got a desire to build a car-toy, and a house-wide UPS with 12V output (saves on the losses to convert up to 110 just to convert back down) --Matthew -Original Message- From: Derek Jennings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mini ITX form factor On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 10:08:40 -0500 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday June 7 2003 02:39 pm, Aron Smith wrote: Has anyone installed Mandrake on a mini ITX form factor board? I'm thinking the 800 Mhz with a 30 GB slim disk would fit in the radio slot on my Jeep real nice.(and I would be able to play any format wav Mp3 Ogg Vorbis etc. I don't (wouldn't) have one. The VIA-Cyrix processors report themselves as i686. They're not, they're not even fully i586, retaining some i486 only capabilities. Mandrake i586 installs on these systems can be a problem, as when a i686 cpu is reported, the install will try to use /lib/i686/ libraries for a little more optimization. The VIA C3 cpu's won't work with i686, and barely with i586. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/90errata.php3#viac3 I believe 9.1 is fixed to cope with VIA C3's. There's quite a bit of info on the Web about C3's. One bit is the 800mhz C3 performs at about 400mhz levels due to dated design and inadequate L caches. It's really only the old Cyrix cpu with VIA's name tacked on. You might wanna do a lot more checking before goin for one of these systems, specially for multimedia use. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Mandrake 9.1 installs perfectly on Via C3's even with i686 libraries Mandrake 9.0 has to be tweaked. The latest generation of C3 with the 'Nemenhiah' core is fully compliant with i686. Where the performance of ITX boards falls down is in the performance of the graphics chips set used on them. The Linux drivers 'aint great. 2D is fine. 3D you can forget about. Where they are good, is in general computing environments where raw power is not necessary, and low power/noise/small form factor is required. Several ITX mobos also come with raw 12V DC input making them perfect for mounting in a car which I believe is what the original poster wanted to do. derek
RE: [newbie] DSL
Title: RE: [newbie] DSL shameless plug I've been using Speakeasy for two years now, and have nothing but great things to say. Take a look at them. If you decide to sign up, consider using this URL: http://www.speakeasy.net/refer/35405 They say they'll help fund my hobbies (brewing and computing) with a referall credit if you sign up. /shameless plug -Original Message- From: Aron Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] DSL Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] ADSL - mgmt.0 - how do I get this ?
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:37 pm, Idea.list2BT wrote: I can't get mgmt.o from www.speedtouchdsl.com\dvrreg_lx.htm (the address supplied by ML9.1 install). I can't even see 'mgmt.0' mentioned on that site. I downloaded the 'SpeedTouch USB Linux driver' but all I got was a zip which expanded to two files - KQD6P1.eni and KQD6P2.eni. God knows what I am supposed to do with these, but I don't. (I have the old mgmt.0 - which worked with ML8.1 but doesn't appear to work with ML9.1) Advice how to obtain the current mgmt.0 appreciated. Thanks Dave http://www.mandrakeusers.org/downloads.php?sid=684ba8fb8d34c9562a59612e91c93 4e0 -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Got it ! Thanks DJ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] More about Bind...
Can you give us more information about what you've done, what is in your config-files etc ? Some thing that goes through my mind now: - before restarting bind, open another terminal and do tail -f /var/log/messages It gives valueable information about possible errors. - Put your loopback in /etc/resolve.conf - use dig for DNS lookups Steven On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:56, Yves Arsenault wrote: Hello, I have recently followed a tutorial in the webmin docs on configuring the Bind DNS server, so I`ve added a domain and followed the tutorial as precisely as possible When I run host domain.com serverip It still doesn`t find the domain name. I keep getting: connection timed out; no servers could be reached Is Bind dependant on other programs that I might not have running? Thanks Yves Arsenault Carrefour Infotech 5,promenade Acadian Charlottetown, IPE C1C 1M2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (902)368-1895 ext.242 ICQ #117650823 __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: Login as root, and go to this page: http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048 Download the plugin and you are all set. That did it, Troy - Thanks! Looks like I spoke too soon; the java plugins show as being installed in about plugins, but only work when I'm logged in as root. How do I change permissions of the plugins so they work when I'm logged in as myself? Rich
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: Linux viruses
On 09 Jun 2003 09:13:25 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 02:00, Anne Wilson wrote: Look, even out of the box or brownbag - literally any linux distro upon initial installation and configuration (granted that passwords HAVE been put in place) is going to be able to sit nicely without very many issues as opposed to a Windows installation brownbag - the Win box is going to get hit FIRST TIME SURFING with either adware or spyware - irregardless of what or where the user surfs to - but that cannot happen on a linux box. I think that's a wild exaggeration. I surfed for years using Win98 and never once had a problem. Admittedly I was cautious, and later started using Eudora, Opera and ZoneAlarm, but I started out with IE, OE etc. Look at XP. It was released with a known vulnerabilty (UPNP), but many people are probably unpatched and still surfing without having been hit. Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Privacy in linux?
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 7:28 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 09 Jun 2003 12:28 am, rikona wrote: Hello, There has been discussion about security, but little about privacy. Granted, Mandrake seems FAR less intrusive then M$ when updating, and with 'call home' programs. Thank you, thank you, Mandrake. snip /snip Has anyone had experience in using the host file to block ads/snoops? Does it hang the browser in waiting for the localhost to time out if the host file is used [this is a problem in Opera, at least]. Ok, in konqueror this works a charm. I'm currently blocked from banner spam etc from over 6000 servers all listed in my /etc/host file. Copy it across and you're set to go. Browsing has speeded up nicely thanks to this. It also helps as this is the only spot in my county that cannot get adsl services so every bit helps. If you want a copy derek then email me off-list and I'll send you a very up-to-date copy as I added about 25 more servers to it only yesterday. Regards magnet Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] More about Bind...
In my domain.com.hosts file, I have the following contents: domain.com. IN SOA ns1.domain.com. yves.carrefour.peicaps.org. ( 1055162570 10800 3600 604800 38400 ) domain.com. IN NS ns1.domain.com. domain.com. IN A 24.222.21.54 www.ilebranchee.ca. IN A 24.222.21.54 mail.domain.com.IN CNAME domain.com. domain.com. IN MX 10 mail.domain.com Are there any other files that you would like to see? Yves Arsenault Carrefour Infotech 5, Acadian Dr. Charlottetown, PEI C1C 1M2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (902)368-1895 ext.242 ICQ #117650823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steven Broos Sent: June 9, 2003 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] More about Bind... Can you give us more information about what you've done, what is in your config-files etc ? Some thing that goes through my mind now: - before restarting bind, open another terminal and do tail -f /var/log/messages It gives valueable information about possible errors. - Put your loopback in /etc/resolve.conf - use dig for DNS lookups Steven On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:56, Yves Arsenault wrote: Hello, I have recently followed a tutorial in the webmin docs on configuring the Bind DNS server, so I`ve added a domain and followed the tutorial as precisely as possible When I run host domain.com serverip It still doesn`t find the domain name. I keep getting: connection timed out; no servers could be reached Is Bind dependant on other programs that I might not have running? Thanks Yves Arsenault Carrefour Infotech 5,promenade Acadian Charlottetown, IPE C1C 1M2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (902)368-1895 ext.242 ICQ #117650823 __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Privacy in linux?
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 3:31 pm, you wrote: On Monday 09 Jun 2003 7:28 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 09 Jun 2003 12:28 am, rikona wrote: Hello, There has been discussion about security, but little about privacy. Granted, Mandrake seems FAR less intrusive then M$ when updating, and with 'call home' programs. Thank you, thank you, Mandrake. snip /snip Has anyone had experience in using the host file to block ads/snoops? Does it hang the browser in waiting for the localhost to time out if the host file is used [this is a problem in Opera, at least]. Ok, in konqueror this works a charm. I'm currently blocked from banner spam etc from over 6000 servers all listed in my /etc/host file. Copy it across and you're set to go. Browsing has speeded up nicely thanks to this. It also helps as this is the only spot in my county that cannot get adsl services so every bit helps. If you want a copy derek then email me off-list and I'll send you a very up-to-date copy as I added about 25 more servers to it only yesterday. Regards magnet Hmm... got that wrong in last post. typo... Its actually 16000 servers. See, it's kinda comprehensive coz spam bugs me out. Regards magnet Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whilst on the music files subject
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:41:13 +0100 Inhabitant of Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have some shn files on my system and can't seem to find a program that will deal with them and that works. John shn - lossless compressed wav file format. Xmms will play them with a plugin, or a tool called shorten translates between shn and wav. I've seen a MDK 9.0 package of shorten, but I think the licence means it won't be in the default distro (the licence is 'free for non-commercial use' rather than free as in fries, sorry freedom). Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape
Hmmm... that's strange. I have never had to change permissions for the plugins for my machine. Are you running at a higher security level? My security level is default. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: Login as root, and go to this page: http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048 Download the plugin and you are all set. That did it, Troy - Thanks! Looks like I spoke too soon; the java plugins show as being installed in about plugins, but only work when I'm logged in as root. How do I change permissions of the plugins so they work when I'm logged in as myself? Rich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Copy/paste question
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 2:50 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Monday 09 June 2003 06:56 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 Jun 2003 6:44 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hey gang. In all Mandrake versions before 9.1, I was able to highlight text in a shell then paste it into kedit. Under 9.1 I can't do this. Is there a workaround? Thanks! Hi, Ronald. Have you checked the clipboard? For some strange reason it doesn't always select the entry you just made. You may find it's there, but you have to click on it to activate it. Anne Hi Anne. I can bring up klipper after highlighting text in eterm and grab it that way. Its an extra step though. I'm used to just grabbing it from eterm, and a simple middle mouse button click puts it anywhere I want it to go. It's hazy memory time g. I have always found that while the highlight/middle-click thing worked usually, there were some occasions where ctrl-c had to be used - sometimes with ctrl-v, and sometimes the middle-click worked. Never did figure out why I had these occasional problems, I just got into the habit of going back to the terminal and doing ctrl-v if it hadn't worked. Not much help, sorry Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] More about Bind...
Did you try tail -f /var/log/messageswhile restarting bind ? I would like to know if it gives any error-messages... I think there is a ; missing after the last bracket of your time-to-live settings. I never understood why it had to be there, but it had... Maybe try your config-file this way? : There could be errors in it, but maybe it puts you on the right track ? $TTL 38400 @ IN SOA ns1.domain.com. yves.carrefour.peicaps.org. ( 1055162570 10800 3600 604800 38400 ); IN NS ns1.domain.com. IN MX 10 mail.domain.com. this should be a hostname in the domain IN A 24.222.21.54 this should be a hostname in the domain IN A 24.222.21.54 #The previous line is not possible, because you use 2 times the same #IP address. Use a CNAME instead of a A-record. mailIN CNAME this should be a hostname already defined I don't know what you are trying to do with the ilebranchee-thing. You need to put the hosts from your domain in this file, without the domain-name, without a point after them. Steven On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 16:27, Yves Arsenault wrote: In my domain.com.hosts file, I have the following contents: domain.com. IN SOA ns1.domain.com. yves.carrefour.peicaps.org. ( 1055162570 10800 3600 604800 38400 ) domain.com. IN NS ns1.domain.com. domain.com. IN A 24.222.21.54 www.ilebranchee.ca. IN A 24.222.21.54 mail.domain.com.IN CNAME domain.com. domain.com. IN MX 10 mail.domain.com Are there any other files that you would like to see? Yves Arsenault Carrefour Infotech 5, Acadian Dr. Charlottetown, PEI C1C 1M2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (902)368-1895 ext.242 ICQ #117650823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steven Broos Sent: June 9, 2003 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] More about Bind... Can you give us more information about what you've done, what is in your config-files etc ? Some thing that goes through my mind now: - before restarting bind, open another terminal and do tail -f /var/log/messages It gives valueable information about possible errors. - Put your loopback in /etc/resolve.conf - use dig for DNS lookups Steven On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:56, Yves Arsenault wrote: Hello, I have recently followed a tutorial in the webmin docs on configuring the Bind DNS server, so I`ve added a domain and followed the tutorial as precisely as possible When I run host domain.com serverip It still doesn`t find the domain name. I keep getting: connection timed out; no servers could be reached Is Bind dependant on other programs that I might not have running? Thanks Yves Arsenault Carrefour Infotech 5,promenade Acadian Charlottetown, IPE C1C 1M2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (902)368-1895 ext.242 ICQ #117650823 __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need Help
Get it working by using my usb cdwriter and 9.1 hdcdrom_usb.img looks likey things are looking up and learn abit about the booting and kernel of linux On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:09 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:30:23 + Benjamin Jeeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Had my Laptop work until I made a time that it was time to reinstall Mandrake 8.0 now I can not install any version of Mandrake, RedHat this is what I get? The Laptop is Compaq Armada 3500, PII 266, 128MB RAM. RAMDISK: Compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 286k freed Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03 I think it is the cd/dvd player that is the problem have a UBS bruner but can not get it to boot from that drive. you could try booting from a floppy instead, Mandrake has floppy images for download, but I have doubts you'll be able to find one for 8.0. It actually sounds more like either a hard-drive or memory error, however. If it was the CD drive, it would *usually* be more of an all or nothing type of problem, ie. it wouldn't boot at all. Try the boot floppy and install 9.1 if you can, but I wouldn't recommend KDE or Gnome on that dinosaur! If push comes to shove, the last resort is to do a network install, which I did with my webserver, and there is a special boot floppy for that too! worked like a charm, it did! :) Check out the Mandrake site under Installation Instructions I believe. The Problem is that I am doing a design show for my dissertation which was develop on Linux Mandrake. The show is next Wed at my Uni was hoping for so help from you people might be able to help on this problem. Ouch! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] More about Bind...
I get this when I type tail -f /var/log/messages Jun 9 12:00:00 man1 CROND[9022]: (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests) Jun 9 12:01:00 man1 CROND[9027]: (root) CMD (nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.hourly) Jun 9 12:01:00 man1 CROND[9029]: (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner) Jun 9 12:01:00 man1 su(pam_unix)[9032]: session opened for user news by (uid=0) Jun 9 12:01:01 man1 su(pam_unix)[9032]: session closed for user news Jun 9 12:01:01 man1 msec: changed mode of /var/log/news/nntpsend.log from 660 to 640 Jun 9 12:01:01 man1 msec: changed mode of /var/log/samba/log.dstill-of-lapmd from 644 to 640 Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: /etc/named.conf:12: expected port number or '*' near 'allow' Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: reloading configuration failed: unexpected tokenJun 9 12:00:00 man1 CROND[9022]: (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/lib/mailman/cron/senddigests) Jun 9 12:01:00 man1 CROND[9027]: (root) CMD (nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.hourly) Jun 9 12:01:00 man1 CROND[9029]: (mail) CMD (/usr/bin/python -S /var/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner) Jun 9 12:01:00 man1 su(pam_unix)[9032]: session opened for user news by (uid=0) Jun 9 12:01:01 man1 su(pam_unix)[9032]: session closed for user news Jun 9 12:01:01 man1 msec: changed mode of /var/log/news/nntpsend.log from 660 to 640 Jun 9 12:01:01 man1 msec: changed mode of /var/log/samba/log.dstill-of-lapmd from 644 to 640 Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: /etc/named.conf:12: expected port number or '*' near 'allow' Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: reloading configuration failed: unexpected token Being an extreme newbie, I`m not sure what it all means... :-) Yves -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steven Broos Sent: June 9, 2003 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] More about Bind... Did you try tail -f /var/log/messageswhile restarting bind ? I would like to know if it gives any error-messages... I think there is a ; missing after the last bracket of your time-to-live settings. I never understood why it had to be there, but it had... Maybe try your config-file this way? : There could be errors in it, but maybe it puts you on the right track ? $TTL 38400 @ IN SOA ns1.domain.com. yves.carrefour.peicaps.org. ( 1055162570 10800 3600 604800 38400 ); IN NS ns1.domain.com. IN MX 10 mail.domain.com. this should be a hostname in the domain IN A 24.222.21.54 this should be a hostname in the domain IN A 24.222.21.54 #The previous line is not possible, because you use 2 times the same #IP address. Use a CNAME instead of a A-record. mailIN CNAME this should be a hostname already defined I don't know what you are trying to do with the ilebranchee-thing. You need to put the hosts from your domain in this file, without the domain-name, without a point after them. Steven On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 16:27, Yves Arsenault wrote: In my domain.com.hosts file, I have the following contents: domain.com. IN SOA ns1.domain.com. yves.carrefour.peicaps.org. ( 1055162570 10800 3600 604800 38400 ) domain.com. IN NS ns1.domain.com. domain.com. IN A 24.222.21.54 www.ilebranchee.ca. IN A 24.222.21.54 mail.domain.com.IN CNAME domain.com. domain.com. IN MX 10 mail.domain.com Are there any other files that you would like to see? Yves Arsenault Carrefour Infotech 5, Acadian Dr. Charlottetown, PEI C1C 1M2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (902)368-1895 ext.242 ICQ #117650823 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steven Broos Sent: June 9, 2003 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] More about Bind... Can you give us more information about what you've done, what is in your config-files etc ? Some thing that goes through my mind now: - before restarting bind, open another terminal and do tail -f /var/log/messages It gives valueable information about possible errors. - Put your loopback in /etc/resolve.conf - use dig for DNS lookups Steven On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 14:56, Yves Arsenault wrote: Hello, I have recently followed a tutorial in the webmin docs on configuring the Bind DNS server, so I`ve added a domain and followed the tutorial as precisely as possible When I run host domain.com serverip It
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: Linux viruses
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:15:42 +0100 RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I think that's a wild exaggeration. I surfed for years using Win98 and never once had a problem. Admittedly I was cautious, and later started using Eudora, Opera and ZoneAlarm, but I started out with IE, OE etc. same experience here, but unfortunately it's not currently relevant. If you were using Win98 anything more than 3 years ago, you simply cannot compare the two time-frames. With worms and virii, it is literally reaching the point of exasperation with the majority of Windows users, and that has been the situation since maybe mid 2001. The problem certainly existed before that, obviously, but it's only been in the years since XP was released that it's become so egregious, since it includes so many features that enable users to do things like run an IIS web server without knowing the slightest thing about it, and the dangers involved. Steve Gibson was right, XP has been the worst thing to hit the internet since spam. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 10:21:38 up 6 days, 8:25, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.04 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] fonts
Mandrake 9.1 My problem is that in some applications the fonts look washed out. It usually looks like some form of Helvetica, but I am not sure. How do I control the fonts that applications use in KDE? KDE's control panel lets one change the fonts kde uses for menus and file names, but I need to control the fonts within an application. I know this is very vague. Any pointers on where to find information about fonts would be appreciated. I seem to remember having this trouble on a linux system years ago and back then the solution including coping a bunch of fonts from a windows system and using them within Xwindows. I kind of doubt that is still done, but please correct me if I am wrong. Rafe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] More about Bind...
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 16:59, Yves Arsenault wrote: Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: /etc/named.conf:12: expected port number or '*' near 'allow' Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: reloading configuration failed: unexpected token Every line contains the process tat triggered the log-message. Here are the three last lines from named (the bind server) Aparently, there is a fault in your configfile, at line 12. - /etc/named.conf:12: expected port number or '*' near 'allow' Now you can track that fault, and correct it. When that's done, restart named, again take a look at /var/log/messages, and keep on going until it works :-) I hope this helps. Steven Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How do I undate my urpmi database ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi GKT no package named GKT [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi GKT no package named GKT [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi GTK = 2.0.6 The following packages contain GTK: libAiksaurusGTK0 libwxPythonGTK2.4-devel libwxPythonGTK2.4 perl-GTK-GtkHTML perl-GTK-GdkImlib libAiksaurusGTK0-devel perl-GTK-Glade perl-GTK-GdkPixbuf perl-GTK2-devel wxPythonGTK AiksaurusGTK perl-GTK-Gnome perl-GTK-GLArea wxGTK perl-GTK perl-GTK2 The following packages contain 2.0.6: libxfs1-devel Xdialog postfix xfsprogs libxfs1 apache2-mod_authenticache cvsweb [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi libAiksaurusGTK0 libwxPythonGTK2.4-devel libwxPythonGTK2.4 perl-GTK-GtkHTML perl-GTK-GdkImlib libAiksaurusGTK0-devel perl-GTK-Glade perl-GTK-GdkPixbuf perl-GTK2-devel wxPythonGTK AiksaurusGTK perl-GTK-Gnome perl-GTK-GLArea wxGTK perl-GTK perl-GTK2 To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (24 MB): Aiksaurus-data-0.15-1mdk.i586 AiksaurusGTK-0.14-1mdk.i586 libAiksaurus0-0.15-1mdk.i586 libAiksaurus0-devel-0.15-1mdk.i586 libAiksaurusGTK0-0.14-1mdk.i586 libAiksaurusGTK0-devel-0.14-1mdk.i586 libwxPythonGTK2.4-2.4.0.6-1mdk.i586 libwxPythonGTK2.4-devel-2.4.0.6-1mdk.i586 wxGTK-2.4.0-4mdk.i586 wxPythonGTK-2.4.0.6-1mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) y ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/libwxPythonGTK2.4-2.4.0.6-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/libAiksaurus0-0.15-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/Aiksaurus-data-0.15-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/wxPythonGTK-2.4.0.6-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/libAiksaurusGTK0-devel-0.14-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/libAiksaurus0-devel-0.15-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/libwxPythonGTK2.4-devel-2.4.0.6-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/9.1/contrib/RPMS/AiksaurusGTK-0.14-1mdk.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.bahcesehir.edu.tr/pub/texstar/mandrake/9.1/rpms/i586/./wxGTK-2.4.0-4mdk.i586.rpm Installation failed, some files are missing: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/wxGTK-2.4.0-4mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database So does that mean going back to main on easy to go through that long list of rebuilding ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dear Steve: Time for Microsoft Linux?
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 4:23 pm, Alan Dunford wrote: How can Microsoft participate in an open operating system? Two ways: First, by making it as robust an OS as possible. Yes, well Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newer versions of the kernel for 9.1
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 5:03 pm, eric huff wrote: Don't know, but it's 2.4.21-0.16 instead of 2.4.21-0.13m so I presume it's later. I have both installed, but haven't seen any difference. Anne Just curious: What exactly is different about the mm (multimedia, right?) kernel? eric Youcould try the mm kernel (it's on the disks). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Optimizing my system
My question is pretty simple, I downloaded Quake III:Arena demo the other day to compare how it played in linux and in windows. To my surprise the intro and menus were very slow and choppy and the game pretty much didn't play it was so slow. So my question is, how do I check to see if I have the right video drivers loaded, and how else could I optimize my system. I'm running an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ 1.6Ghz with 256 MB DDR and a GeForce 4 ti 4200 with 128mb. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Optimizing my system
Install the nvidia drivers. You can find them @ www.nvidia.com there should be info about how to install... If you start X, you first get a NVIDIA splash-screen. If you don't see that, the correct drivers are not installed. Steven On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 18:36, Patrick Coffey wrote: My question is pretty simple, I downloaded Quake III:Arena demo the other day to compare how it played in linux and in windows. To my surprise the intro and menus were very slow and choppy and the game pretty much didn't play it was so slow. So my question is, how do I check to see if I have the right video drivers loaded, and how else could I optimize my system. I'm running an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ 1.6Ghz with 256 MB DDR and a GeForce 4 ti 4200 with 128mb. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Java in Netscape
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 10:50, Troy Davidson wrote: Hmmm... that's strange. I have never had to change permissions for the plugins for my machine. Are you running at a higher security level? My security level is default. Strange indeed! My security level is also default (5?). I've tried changing permissions on netscape and netscape-bin to no avail. Rich Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 09:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 22:13, Troy Davidson wrote: Login as root, and go to this page: http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048 Download the plugin and you are all set. That did it, Troy - Thanks! Looks like I spoke too soon; the java plugins show as being installed in about plugins, but only work when I'm logged in as root. How do I change permissions of the plugins so they work when I'm logged in as myself? Rich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Scanner problem on mdk 9.1
On Sunday 08 Jun 2003 H:24 pm, Marco Verheul wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 10:11, Poogle wrote: snip When I do cat /proc/bus/usb/devices I get exactly that, except for the ProdID that is different from yours e26. My ProdID 0x208f is similar to that shown on http://snapscan.sourceforge.net/ so that part seems to be in order. Marco O.K. Make sure that your snape50.bin is executable Now from the command line type sane-find-scanner within the output from this you should see these lines (I've taken mine and put the id numbers for the e50 usb in) found USB scanner (vendor=0x06bd, product=0x208f) at /dev/usb/scanner0 found USB scanner (vendor=0x06bd, product=0x208f) at libusb:002:002 Now assuming you see this again from the command line type scanimage -L and you should get this:- device `snapscan:/dev/usb/scanner0' is a AGFA SNAPSCAN flatbed scanner If you don't get all or any of these results post your output here. Again the output is as you described above. No surprises there. It seems that whatever I do, my scanner is recognized, but that somehow Scannerdrake fails to add it to the list of configured scanners. Every time I try again, it doesn't find any configured scanners, only new ones. Also I noticed that when I boot my machine, configuring the scanner and starting Xsane performs at a normal speed. When I try again, it takes much more time. It seems to me the hardware detection takes much longer. Is this an indication of something familiar? Marco I'm struggling now, assuming the following:- you are using .. sane-frontends version 1.0.10 -1mdk sane-backends version 1.0.11 -5mdk xsane version 0.90 -2mdk which come with 9.1 and that you have snape50.bin in your path and executable by you and that sane-find-scanner and scanimage -L correctly find your scanner it should work, this model is reported to work correctly. Have you checked that you have permissions set to allow you access to group usb ? Have you tried to access it as root - TAKE CARE ! Finally a last desperate shot in the dark, is it really a model e50 or is it a newer variation that might not be supported - the e50 has been around for a while and may have been upgraded ? -- http://www.poogle.co.uk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dear Steve: Time for Microsoft Linux?
I stopped reading half away, when i read MS Linux for the third time. I don't like that... Not at all ! What MS needs to do, is making its own applications open source, so they can be enhanced (and ported). What I don't like, is MS building on a linux platform. I think this will give a whole new, negative dimension on so called open source. Let MS focus on regular home-PC-users and basic desktop-systems, and let linux for the people who want more... There is no way MS (the cpy) can work together with Linux, because the overall goals of both 'projects' are too different. I'm not against MS, but I'm pro linux! Er... sometimes I am against MS :-) Steven On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 17:23, Alan Dunford wrote: A friend sent this to me - thought it might be of some interest!!! -- This story was printed fromZDNN ,This message was forwarded to you from ZDNet (http://www.zdnet.com) Dear Steve: Time for Microsoft Linux? By David Coursey, AnchorDesk June 8, 2003 9:00 PM PT Dear Steve Ballmer: Concerning Linux and your memo/exhortation of June 4, I'm pleased to see you've finally recognized--publicly, at least--the threat posed to Microsoft by Linux. Some in the Linux community must imagine you with a sort of deer in the headlights look, not quite sure of your fate but certain it can't be good. They could see your memo as a legitimization of Linux, an admission by Goliath that David has a point after all. The Linux hardcore must be hooting and hollering and marking June 4 as a future national day of liberation from the evil empire. I THINK they have it backwards. I think Linux proponents are the ones who should be afraid. Why? Because Microsoft has been in this situation before and, once the battleship was turned, fought and won. Your company also ended up being declared a monopoly, making a deal with the feds, and spending large millions on legal fees. But what's that to Microsoft's multibillion-dollar war chest? You remember the fall of 1995? Back then, people thought Microsoft was hopelessly late in acknowledging the existence of something called the Internet. Competitors were popping up, the industry was abuzz, and Microsoft was nowhere to be found. As I remember, Microsoft had some important projects to finish the previous summer, in particular a little something called Windows 95. But by December, once that had shipped and people had a chance to rest and regroup, Bill invited the media up to Microsoft for a talk about the Internet. That turned out to be one of the most fateful days in personal computing history. Bill told several hundred reporters that Microsoft wouldn't be building Internet products. Instead, it would be putting the Internet into all Microsoft products. Every future Microsoft product would have Internet capabilities built-in. NOW, I'M NOT SURE your June 4 memo is the same war cry I heard nearly eight years ago. But if I were Linux and faced with the prospect of Microsoft throwing everything it could at me, I'd find some way to get out of your path. Here's my suggestion for how Microsoft should deal with Linux: Don't beat 'em, join 'em. Do a release of MS Linux. Create Office for Linux. Improve Linux support in your development tools. Do such a good job of embracing and extending Linux that the world won't care when you essentially annex it for your own. A more cynical person than myself might add: Then you can kill it. I won't, because I believe Linux deserves to live. I think this is the only way Microsoft can both give its customers what they want and manage the threat Linux poses on something approaching your own terms. The first question people will immediately ask is: How can Microsoft participate in an open operating system? Two ways: First, by making it as robust an OS as possible. Second, by creating a collection of services and applications that run atop Linux that only Microsoft controls. The goal here is to shift the competition away from commodity operating systems running on commodity computers. Instead, you should compete on services that sit atop the OS, tools to build applications for it, and integration between the OS and other servers and desktops in the Microsoft world. The second inevitable question: What about Linux on the desktop? While Apple has proven with OS X that a really great desktop can be built atop Unix, I'm not sure how far Microsoft wants to go down this road. There should probably be an Office for MS Linux, because some people will want to run Office on Linux desktops. But I'd probably stop there. BY ADOPTING Linux as its own, Microsoft can
RE: [newbie] More about Bind...
Thanks Steven You know what, the small error on that line was the only thing causing the error... Thanks a million! :-) Yves -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steven Broos Sent: June 9, 2003 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] More about Bind... On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 16:59, Yves Arsenault wrote: Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf' Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: /etc/named.conf:12: expected port number or '*' near 'allow' Jun 9 12:01:18 man1 named[1101]: reloading configuration failed: unexpected token Every line contains the process tat triggered the log-message. Here are the three last lines from named (the bind server) Aparently, there is a fault in your configfile, at line 12. - /etc/named.conf:12: expected port number or '*' near 'allow' Now you can track that fault, and correct it. When that's done, restart named, again take a look at /var/log/messages, and keep on going until it works :-) I hope this helps. Steven Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSL
On 08 Jun 2003 17:53:26 -0700 Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone Know of a DSL provider here in the Bay Area that if not supporting Linux is at least linux Friendly? eg. easy to set up under Mandrake -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which Bay Area? Whitley Bay? Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newer versions of the kernel for 9.1
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:02 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 08 June 2003 11:46 pm, Guy Rouillier wrote: Where can I find later versions of the kernel for 9.1? I'm experiencing the ldm_validate_partition_table problem. I've looked on both pbone and rpmfind and neither of them appears to have new versions. pbone actually did have one a couple months ago (which unfortunately did not solve the problem), but now I can't find one there. Thanks. BTW, I searched MandrakeClub and didn't find anything there either. There has not been an official kernal update for 9.1 yet. You would have to try and build your own, or you could also try the Cooker kernel. If you do try the cookwe kernel, make sure you install it without removing your old kernel so you can boot back to it if stuff desn't work. Youcould try the mm kernel (it's on the disks). Why are you wanting this, though? The ldm_validate_partition_table problem only refers to the fact that there isn't a disk in a removable drive - it's harmless. Or is there something else? Thanks all for the replies. I tried a 16 kernel that I had found on pbone, but it does not fix the problem. According to https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=930 this fix is only in versions 17 and later. Anne, you are correct in that this appears to be a nuisance only, and not a malfunction. But it is enough of a nuisance that I'd like to fix it. It causes about a 30-second pause (old hardware 233 MHz dual Pentium MMX) in multiple places during boot-up, then another similar pause when I log on. I'll try Greg's suggestion and see if I can get a later kernel from cooker. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Optimizing my system
On Monday 09 June 2003 12:36 pm, Patrick Coffey wrote: My question is pretty simple, I downloaded Quake III:Arena demo the other day to compare how it played in linux and in windows. To my surprise the intro and menus were very slow and choppy and the game pretty much didn't play it was so slow. So my question is, how do I check to see if I have the right video drivers loaded, and how else could I optimize my system. I'm running an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ 1.6Ghz with 256 MB DDR and a GeForce 4 ti 4200 with 128mb. _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Grab the Nvidia drivers, installation is a snap on the latest version. Quake 3 flies here. (well, it did under 9.0 - I've not tried it yet under 9.1). -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi: You may want to update your urpmi database
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:49:25 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check your mirror for 9.0 contrib is still there. A lot of the 9.0 mirrors have been disappearing off the web recently. derek Got it - the message isn't update the details of your sources, it's update the actual sources you use. I'll do that. Thanks. Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] More about Bind...
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 18:57, Yves Arsenault wrote: Thanks Steven You know what, the small error on that line was the only thing causing the error... Thanks a million! I'm glad I finally could help someone. Most of my answers are too dumb to remember :) Steven Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: Linux viruses
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:26:55 -0400 JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:15:42 +0100 RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I think that's a wild exaggeration. I surfed for years using Win98 and never once had a problem. Admittedly I was cautious, and later started using Eudora, Opera and ZoneAlarm, but I started out with IE, OE etc. same experience here, but unfortunately it's not currently relevant. If you were using Win98 anything more than 3 years ago, you simply cannot compare the two time-frames. With worms and virii, it is literally reaching the point of exasperation with the majority of Windows users, and that has been the situation since maybe mid 2001. The problem certainly existed before that, obviously, but it's only been in the years since XP was released that it's become so egregious, since it includes so many features that enable users to do things like run an IIS web server without knowing the slightest thing about it, and the dangers involved. Steve Gibson was right, XP has been the worst thing to hit the internet since spam. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 10:21:38 up 6 days, 8:25, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.04 Good point. I haven't used Windows at home for a while. I think the IIS thing started in Win2K. Our install instructions at work say tell it not to install IIS, then turn off the IIS it installed. Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
quoting Anne Wilson's missive of Monday 09 June 2003 04:41 am: whack Installing Linux. The biggest % was installing the packages. It took A LONG time. 200 MHz 32 MB. I used the CDs. Cody; If I recall correctly that machine is your server? How much more than 'just server' packages did you install? Office packages, graphics packages, audio packages, firewall, etc.? How many different desktops? KDE, GNOME, what else? Did any of that extra software get installed from your (1) Windows install disk? Do you think the sheer _size_ of the install on that limited system may have had some effect on how long it took? Installing three or four times the number of applications may actually TAKE three or four times as long? On the same machine? That really is odd. I installed 9.0 on a really ancient AMD board (around 5 years old) in around 45 minutes. It has a 400 processor and 128 MB ram - nothing specially good and a lot that's not good. It's very slow doing some things, but it works. Can't imagine what took so long. Anne Hey! Easy with that 'ancient board' crack Anne. This system was built in early 1999. Or late 1998, I can never recall. But I resemble that ancient remark. ;-) Yeah, that's a slow processor Cody is using alright. But it ain't the problem. Check out the difference in RAM between what you installed on and what Cody had trouble with. Then remember the minimum specs for Mandrake 8.1. If I remember correctly it was 64 MB minimum recommended, but I'm not going to dig the box out of the closet to check. May actually have been double that. g As a check; I never had much luck with 8.1. I didn't run it for very long before I cookered this box. Hangs, X crashes, *very* slow operation. I had 512 MB of memory when I installed it then I added another 512. I had to cut it back to 768 total because of a failing memory slot but still...it just didn't like my system. Or me. ;-) With only 32 MB of physical memory I'm surprised it installed at all. 9.0 or 9.1 wouldn't, not if one planned to use the graphical installer. You *might* get disk 1 to install but 2 and 3 wouldn't be available; no memory to hold the package lists and the GUI. Cody; If you want to learn, and to be able to run any GNU/Linux distribution, might I suggest that you start with basics? System requirements are published for a reason, errata pages are published for a reason. notMail lists such as this exist so that smart @$$ people such as myself can hang around to offer unhelpful help to try advising you on how to make things work./not There are a number of (lots actually, and you may have pissed one or more of them off yesterday) truly helpful and intelligent people that answer questions on these lists. As volunteers. Because they believe in the ideals exemplified by the availability of distributions such as Mandrake. Added factor: they really like to help. It requires a minimum commitment on your part. You need to actually _read_ and give thought to the information that's made available though, or that someone offers links to for you. I don't think anyone actually expects you or anybody else to get it on the first go; but I do think you're expected to try, and ask more questions when you need to. Don't just start the Windows is better as a subconscious defence against feeling inadequate. That's old and tired, we've all seen far too much of it. If Windows is really your thang have fun. Just don't expect very many people that read this, or any other like list, to agree with you. From the post I originally quoted from: It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. On that same machine? A working Windows install? With all of the extras you installed from the Mandrake disks? In 60 minutes on that hardware? Wellno. Very unlikely. Try again. Comparisons are only as useful as the basic premise allows them to be. This one may not reflect reality. Final thoughts on this subject then I'm outta here; how much would all of the software/server packages you installed have cost you from Microsoft? How much did it cost you from Mandrake? What have you paid for the training you've been offered here? Regards; Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo (cooked) 10:44:05 up 27 days, 2:48, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.04, 0.01 Have a nice day! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dear Steve: Time for Microsoft Linux?
Another typical stupid article by David Coursey to generate more hits for ZDNet. M$ is in business solely for the purpose of squeezing the most $ possible from the locked in users of their monopolistic and proprietary OS. They would never (willingly) have anything to do with open source. If someday Linux has 90% of the market, they might reconsider, but by that time their stock price would be approaching zero and it wouldn't matter. JMO, Mike Alan Dunford wrote: A friend sent this to me - thought it might be of some interest!!! -- This story was printed fromZDNN ,This message was forwarded to you from ZDNet (http://www.zdnet.com) Dear Steve: Time for Microsoft Linux? By David Coursey, AnchorDesk June 8, 2003 9:00 PM PT Dear Steve Ballmer: Concerning Linux and your memo/exhortation of June 4, I'm pleased to see you've finally recognized--publicly, at least--the snip Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Apache question
Hello again, I'm pleased to report that my site now comes up, Bind works well, Apache works well. Now when I type in the IP address in my browser the website comes up by default... How do I set the IP to point to another page? Thanks again, Yves Arsenault Carrefour Infotech 5,promenade Acadian Charlottetown, IPE C1C 1M2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (902)368-1895 ext.242 ICQ #117650823 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Newer versions of the kernel for 9.1
On Monday June 9 2003 11:03 am, eric huff wrote: Just curious: What exactly is different about the mm (multimedia, right?) kernel? eric For most users, more advanced/better supermount and the low latency and preempt patches. The cooker ready made rpm should have no problems on older releases. One of the rare times cooker is suitable in this regard. Latest is 2.4.21-0.18mm-mdk on cooker /contrib (RPM2) mirrors. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] linux game help
Saud Well first ya gonna need Internet for counter-strike =) But after you get that, try this HOWTO for installing WineX - its what you need to play... http://www.geocities.com/desktopmandrake/wine.htm --- Saud N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i put in my coutnerstrike cd and i want to know how to run setup.exec lol sounds NOOB but i just now converted form windows and have no internet connection on theat comoputer __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 12:10 PM 6/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: quoting Anne Wilson's missive of Monday 09 June 2003 04:41 am: whack Installing Linux. The biggest % was installing the packages. It took A LONG time. 200 MHz 32 MB. I used the CDs. Cody; If I recall correctly that machine is your server? How much more than 'just server' packages did you install? Office packages, graphics packages, audio packages, firewall, etc.? How many different desktops? KDE, GNOME, what else? Did any of that extra software get installed from your (1) Windows install disk? Do you think the sheer _size_ of the install on that limited system may have had some effect on how long it took? Installing three or four times the number of applications may actually TAKE three or four times as long? On the same machine? I installed most things, because it was just a server then. That really is odd. I installed 9.0 on a really ancient AMD board (around 5 years old) in around 45 minutes. It has a 400 processor and 128 MB ram - nothing specially good and a lot that's not good. It's very slow doing some things, but it works. Can't imagine what took so long. Anne Hey! Easy with that 'ancient board' crack Anne. This system was built in early 1999. Or late 1998, I can never recall. But I resemble that ancient remark. ;-) Yeah, that's a slow processor Cody is using alright. But it ain't the problem. Check out the difference in RAM between what you installed on and what Cody had trouble with. Then remember the minimum specs for Mandrake 8.1. If I remember correctly it was 64 MB minimum recommended, but I'm not going to dig the box out of the closet to check. May actually have been double that. g As a check; I never had much luck with 8.1. I didn't run it for very long before I cookered this box. Hangs, X crashes, *very* slow operation. I had 512 MB of memory when I installed it then I added another 512. I had to cut it back to 768 total because of a failing memory slot but still...it just didn't like my system. Or me. ;-) With only 32 MB of physical memory I'm surprised it installed at all. 9.0 or 9.1 wouldn't, not if one planned to use the graphical installer. You *might* get disk 1 to install but 2 and 3 wouldn't be available; no memory to hold the package lists and the GUI. Cody; If you want to learn, and to be able to run any GNU/Linux distribution, might I suggest that you start with basics? System requirements are published for a reason, errata pages are published for a reason. notMail lists such as this exist so that smart @$$ people such as myself can hang around to offer unhelpful help to try advising you on how to make things work./not There are a number of (lots actually, and you may have pissed one or more of them off yesterday) truly helpful and intelligent people that answer questions on these lists. As volunteers. Because they believe in the ideals exemplified by the availability of distributions such as Mandrake. Added factor: they really like to help. It requires a minimum commitment on your part. You need to actually _read_ and give thought to the information that's made available though, or that someone offers links to for you. I don't think anyone actually expects you or anybody else to get it on the first go; but I do think you're expected to try, and ask more questions when you need to. Don't just start the Windows is better as a subconscious defence against feeling inadequate. That's old and tired, we've all seen far too much of it. If Windows is really your thang have fun. Just don't expect very many people that read this, or any other like list, to agree with you. From the post I originally quoted from: It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. On that same machine? A working Windows install? With all of the extras you installed from the Mandrake disks? In 60 minutes on that hardware? Wellno. Very unlikely. Try again. Comparisons are only as useful as the basic premise allows them to be. This one may not reflect reality. Final thoughts on this subject then I'm outta here; how much would all of the software/server packages you installed have cost you from Microsoft? How much did it cost you from Mandrake? What have you paid for the training you've been offered here? Regards; Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo (cooked) 10:44:05 up 27 days, 2:48, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.04, 0.01 Have a nice day! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( |
[newbie] Keys for Contrib packages?
Hi all, I have recently decided to install the package chkrootkit after hearing it can be a useful tool with security. However when I do so I receive an error: The following packaages have bad signatures: full path ../chkrootkit-0.39-1mdk.i586.rpm I have been told I need the keys for the contrib packages. I'm not sure this is accurate. But I am sure that I do not want any errors like this when installing chkrootkit (plz dont' tell me to just ignore it) Thanks in advance __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi updates - Bad signatures
quoting Trey Sizemore's missive of Sunday 08 June 2003 09:13 pm: Trying to update my system using 'urpmi --auto --auto-select' and I'm getting the message on several packages: The following packages have bad signatures: --Lists of packages If I suspect these are actually good packages, is there a way to get them installed? They are from Cooker and Texstart mostly (GAIM, Apache2, etc.) Thanks. The cooker packages...well...you do know running cooker packages on a 9.1 system is a good way to break things I'm certain. Not all, but some anyway. For Tex packages it's easier. Just import his keys. From PCLinuxonline: quote GPG Key Instructions Rpmdrake requires the maker of the rpm to sign their rpms. Here is how to download and install my gpg key. Download http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/mandrake/gpgkey/pubring.gpg my pubring.gpg key for Linux Mandrake 9.1 Drop to the console and su to root. Type: gpg --import pubring.gpg Thats it! Now when installing my rpms via rpmdrake you will no longer get invalid or not signed warnings. Texstar /quote HTH Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo (cooked) 12:55:10 up 27 days, 4:59, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.15, 0.08 Human beings were created by water to transport it uphill. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Keys for Contrib packages?
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 12:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Tango Echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: (plz dont' tell me to just ignore it) Ok. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 15:14:51 up 6 days, 13:18, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whilst on the music files subject
Hi I downloaded and compiled the atest version but it does funny things when I use it. Pity they can't write a nice GUI like there is for windows that you just drag and drop the files into and they get converted to wav in a folder on the drive. Can't be too hard to do surely? Anyway I decided the music was not worth me going to the effort of booting windows and having it crash 3 times to get them converted so I binned them. John On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:40:59 +0100 RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:41:13 +0100 Inhabitant of Zion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have some shn files on my system and can't seem to find a program that will deal with them and that works. John shn - lossless compressed wav file format. Xmms will play them with a plugin, or a tool called shorten translates between shn and wav. I've seen a MDK 9.0 package of shorten, but I think the licence means it won't be in the default distro (the licence is 'free for non-commercial use' rather than free as in fries, sorry freedom). Richard -- Registered Linux user 246658 at http://counter.li.org -- I have dreamed a dream, but now that dream is gone from me. MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 92791912 -- I have dreamed a dream, but now that dream is gone from me. MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 92791912 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Texstar' version of KDE
On Monday 09 Jun 2003 11:53 am, Miark wrote: Hi Keith, The improvements are because of what KDE people did between 3.1 and 3.1.2, which you can read about at kde.org. From that you can decide which bugs, if any, affect you and whether it's worth a lengthy download. Miark On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:19:20 + Keith Powell I am running KDE3.1.0 as came with 9.1, but I see that Texstar has a version 3.1.2. Are there many improvements in his version? I have only got a dial-up connection, so the download would take several hours and I want to be certain that it would be worth it. Hello Miark. Thanks for the information. I thought that perhaps Texstar had done some work on KDE3.1.2 and it was different to the one from KDE. That is why I asked. I'll look at the KDE site and then decide what to do. Cheers Keith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Spammers
Hello Robin, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 11:02:21 PM, you wrote: A question: does SA come with a separate set of 'rules', as SpamBouncer did? If not, how is it updated? Does the entire program get updated to keep up with the spammers? RT IIRC it uses Vipul's razor. Nice - more sophisticated than just rules. Might explain why it works so well. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] X crashing problem
At 09:53 AM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Monday 09 June 2003 07:20 am, ed tharp wrote: what about agp memory aperture? I have a 64 meg Ti4200 Nvidia card so I set the aperture to 64 megs. Is that okay? -- /\ Dark Lord \/ i don't know if it applies to linux but in windows 128 is normal...not matter what size your video ram is. Tho 64 is safe if you feel 128 is pushing it too hard. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] FTP Access
Could someone give me off list assistance with ProFTPD? I know this is the wrong place but... -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
RE: [newbie] Mini ITX form factor
At 10:00 AM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote: I had 7.2, 8.x and 9.x all running at one time or another on a mini ITX with 1.0Ghz Celeron. All installed without much difficulty. I agree with the below observation that they aren't all that good at graphics, but they're more that up to OGG/MP3 etc. BTW, anyone got a lead on a miniITX with 12V porew input, or a 12V power supply for one? I've got a desire to build a car-toy, and a house-wide UPS with 12V output (saves on the losses to convert up to 110 just to convert back down) --Matthew Shuttle computers. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Copy/paste question
At 11:56 AM 6/9/2003 +0100, you wrote: On Monday 09 Jun 2003 6:44 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Hey gang. In all Mandrake versions before 9.1, I was able to highlight text in a shell then paste it into kedit. Under 9.1 I can't do this. Is there a workaround? Thanks! Hi, Ronald. Have you checked the clipboard? For some strange reason it doesn't always select the entry you just made. You may find it's there, but you have to click on it to activate it. Anne in my case clipper doesn't always show it up! Period! I check klipper it doesn't exist there either! very very frustrating when copying from evolution to browser bar. :\ - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Privacy in linux?
Hello Derek, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 11:28:06 PM, you wrote: DJ In my experience privoxy works great out of the box for the vast DJ majority of sites. Nice to hear. Ever use Proxomitron in Win? If so, how does it compare? DJ (Although I think the latest Opera7.11 no longer has that issue DJ anyway, and is in my opinion a *seriously* good browser) Agreed, I like Opera too, but have not upgraded yet. :-) DJ After using privoxy for some time I am always shocked when I use a computer DJ away from home at how many adverts there are around the web. Privoxy makes DJ surfing much more peaceful :-) That was exactly my experience in surfing with linux. :-) I haven't seen all that flashing junk for years. I really need to fix it. Do you use a host file and/or DNS filtering as well? -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Copy/paste question
On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 21:51, FemmeFatale wrote: in my case clipper doesn't always show it up! Period! I check klipper it doesn't exist there either! very very frustrating when copying from evolution to browser bar. :\ Easiest to copy from Evo that I found: right-click the link, select 'copy link location', switch to browser, do Ctrl-L / Ctrl-V (works for netscape and mozilla anyway) Paul (back from vacation) -- Chocolate has its season. Any month whose name contains the letter A, E, or U is the proper time for chocolate. -Sandra Boynton http://nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
