[newbie] 10.0 (and I hear 10.1) right hand side alt key.
Hello, I recently discovered that there was a solution to the fact the alt key to the right of the space bar wouldn't work (thanks to the bug hunters working with Mandrake). Well, make that half solution If one goes to Start (sorry, I don't know what else to call the Icon on the left of the panel) System Configuration KDE Accessibility Keyboard Layout, selects the Xkb Options tab, then scrolls down to Alt/Win key behavior, and chooses Alt and Meta on the Alt keys (default), the problem disappears... until one reboots (downer). Alternatively, one can enter the following on the command line: setxkbmap -option altwin:meta_alt with similar results. I tried to put this command in /etc/rc.local, but nothing happens. Many thanks to someone who can tell me where to put this command (sunlit choices only need apply) so that it will automatically be executed upon kde startup, hopefully without needing to recompile anything, but anything that is required. With an advance of thanks, James Henry Maiewski 20 Plain Road East South Deerfield, Massachusetts Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 (and I hear 10.1) right hand side alt key.
Il mer, 2005-03-16 alle 22:32, James Henry Maiewski ha scritto: Hello, I recently discovered that there was a solution to the fact the alt key to the right of the space bar wouldn't work (thanks to the bug hunters working with Mandrake). Well, make that half solution If one goes to Start (sorry, I don't know what else to call the Icon on the left of the panel) System Configuration KDE Accessibility Keyboard Layout, selects the Xkb Options tab, then scrolls down to Alt/Win key behavior, and chooses Alt and Meta on the Alt keys (default), the problem disappears... until one reboots (downer). Alternatively, one can enter the following on the command line: setxkbmap -option altwin:meta_alt with similar results. I tried to put this command in /etc/rc.local, but nothing happens. Many thanks to someone who can tell me where to put this command (sunlit choices only need apply) so that it will automatically be executed upon kde startup, hopefully without needing to recompile anything, but anything that is required. Of course , you can put that command line : setxkbmap -option altwin:meta_alt in the startkde script /usr/bin/startkde exactly 1 line before this other line (line nr.219) : echo 'startkde: Starting up...' 12 This way command line will be executed for all users of your linuxbox when starting up Kde . If you want that command only affect one of the users make a executable shell script ( i.e. called right_Alt_key ) and put this script in ~/.kde/Autostart/ directory cd ~/.kde/Autostart/ echo #! /bin/sh right_Alt_key echo setxkbmap -option altwin:meta_alt right_Alt_key chmod ug+x right_Alt_key all done,restart kde session to verify With an advance of thanks, Ciao , Francesco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 (and I hear 10.1) right hand side alt key.
Ciao, Gratsi, I was eying the autostart file, but ended up putting it in the aptly named /etc/X11/xinit/fixkeyboard. One shouldn't argue with success, but your solution does seem simpler (and will survive a reinstall the next time I foobar the system) Question: Why does the Keyboard layout control module, not fix the problem immediately? The module's manual says that Xkb options are property of X and are not handled in any way by kxkb - it just sets it up. It was because of this that I went looking for Xfree86. With many thanks, James Henry Maiewski On Wednesday 16 March 2005 6:34 pm, frengoGorgia wrote: Of course , you can put that command line : setxkbmap -option altwin:meta_alt in the startkde script /usr/bin/startkde exactly 1 line before this other line (line nr.219) : echo 'startkde: Starting up...' 12 This way command line will be executed for all users of your linuxbox when starting up Kde . If you want that command only affect one of the users make a executable shell script ( i.e. called right_Alt_key ) and put this script in ~/.kde/Autostart/ directory cd ~/.kde/Autostart/ echo #! /bin/sh right_Alt_key echo setxkbmap -option altwin:meta_alt right_Alt_key chmod ug+x right_Alt_key all done,restart kde session to verify With an advance of thanks, Ciao , Francesco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 Community
Does anybody know where I can still find an ISO for 10.0CE? I have a set of CD's here, but my CD1 is badly scratched, and will no longer work. I'd like to get a fully functioning set again, so any advice would be appreciated! Many thanks, James Hill
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community
Uytkownik J napisa: Does anybody know where I can still find an ISO for 10.0CE? I have a set of CD's here, but my CD1 is badly scratched, and will no longer work. I'd like to get a fully functioning set again, so any advice would be appreciated! Many thanks, James Hill Of course you can find ISO for Mandrake 10.0 - for example on this mirror: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/iso/10.0/i586/ There are ISOs for 3 CDs of the Mandrake 10.0 Official Edition (which are basically Community Edition with some bugfixes). If you insist on using Community Edition instead of Official Edition, you can use this command as root to add this mirror as the source of your packages: # urpmi.addmedia Your_name_of_web_source ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/devel/10.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz You can use synthesis.hdlist.cz instead of 22.4 MB hdlist.cz file (synthesis.hdlist.cz is much smaller file - but you lose some details of packages such as list of file names), and, of course, your preferred mirror instead of ftp.gwdg.de (there is a list on the Mandrake's site). Wojciech Podgrni smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] 10.0 official gremlins not seen before - SOLVED
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 01:34, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 21 September 2004 16:34, Brian Parish wrote: Things work nicely overall except... Probably you've got old KDE .rc files (and such of the same for a few other apps). Rename your .kde file in your home directory and logout and in again as the user you are. My bet is most of your crashes and probs will have gone. This will require you to copy settings back from the old .kde like kmail.rc if you want to retain passwords, filters and the such. Just for testing you could create a new user and fire it up to see which crashes will be gone and which won't. Yep - that was it. thanks HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 official gremlins not seen before
Had to rebuild my main desktop box over the weekend due to a little adventure with urpmi --auto-select with experimental sources defined. Fun for all the family! Installed clean, then upgraded to kernel-2.6.3-16 Also did urpmi --auto-select with just the proxad official updates. Things work nicely overall except... 1. Every time I close konqueror, I get a crash message - signal 11 (SIGSEGV) 2. Mozilla won't run at all - clicking on the icon just gets me a starting block for a while. Typing mozilla into a console acts like I had just hit enter on a blank line. 3. Konsole functions normally except that the mouse is invisible when over the area inside its window. 4. Firefox does this and dies: The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadName (named color or font does not exist)'. (Details: serial 1072 error_code 15 request_code 45 minor_code 0) These all seem to point to X, which is why I have posted once rather than four times. Any clues out there? The differences from my previous stable install (pre-urpmi knockout blow) that I can think of are: - kernel was -14 I think, but definitely a little earlier than -16 - xinerama was on as now, but the implementation was different. i.e. I now have two screens that function like one big screen, whereas before I had two screens with individual backgrounds and kicker functional only on one. Again, this points to differences in X and/or KDE between installs. TIA Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 official gremlins not seen before
On Tuesday 21 September 2004 16:34, Brian Parish wrote: Things work nicely overall except... Probably you've got old KDE .rc files (and such of the same for a few other apps). Rename your .kde file in your home directory and logout and in again as the user you are. My bet is most of your crashes and probs will have gone. This will require you to copy settings back from the old .kde like kmail.rc if you want to retain passwords, filters and the such. Just for testing you could create a new user and fire it up to see which crashes will be gone and which won't. -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 hostname problem
On Thursday 08 July 2004 22:01, Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Friday 09 July 2004 07:12 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: -On Thursday 08 July 2004 02:45 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: - - Anyone have any ideas whats going on here? Thanks! - -Hate to suggest something so ungeeky, but have you tried opening up the -connection in Mandrake Control Center, specifying the right hostname and the -restarting to see the effect? Possible that Mandrake is setting a hostname -in a specific script that is covered by the GUI that you are not finding. - -Now, my system didn't work that way, I only had to issue the command hostname -blah from the CLI as root and I never had to reset it again but YMMV. - shrugs If it works, right? I'll try it the next time I get a chance. Man...I'm just having to work way too hard on this release. :-( Agreed hows this for a hostname 'OKOKCCW1951LT01' , assigned by my dsl modem. Hey it works. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 hostname problem
On Friday 09 July 2004 04:46 pm, Bill Shirley wrote: -Also, I don't think you can set IPADDR in this file. It should -be set in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0: Er, when I said in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts, I did mean ifcfg-eth0 in *that* directory - sorry for the confusion. :-) I've (apparently) got it fixed now. I went into the MCC and just deleted that connection and created a totally new one. Whatever it was...its gone, the hostname is as it should be. Thanks for your reply. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 hostname problem
Okay, I'm still trying to sort out stuff on my sons comp and here is the latest problem (I don't know why I didn't notice this earlier). We have a 4 comp LAN here, 3 desktops hardwired, and 1 laptop via wireless. The comps run like this: 192.168.0.100 darkforce.ky.org (my main comp, v9.2, no problems) 192.168.0.101 darkforce2.ky.org (my sons - the 10.0 problem comp) 192.168.0.102 darkforce3.ky.org (younger son, v9.2 no problems) 192.168.0.104 darkforce4.ky.org (my laptop, v9.2, no problems) On my sons comp, I have: 192.168.0.101 darkforce2.ky.org darkforce2 in /etc/hosts I've got: HOSTNAME=darkforce2.ky.org IPADDR=192.168.0.101 in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and I set the IP address and hostname in the Internet wizard as well as being root and just doing a hostname darkforce2.ky.org. Never the less, when I open up a terminal, or do uname -a, it reports the system as being darkforce3.ky.org. As root, I can do a hostname darkforce2.ky.org, log out of any terminal and log back in and then it shows the correct hostname. Until I reboot. Then the 3 shows up again. Anyone have any ideas whats going on here? Thanks! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 hostname problem
On Friday 09 July 2004 07:12 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 08 July 2004 02:45 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Anyone have any ideas whats going on here? Thanks! Hate to suggest something so ungeeky, but have you tried opening up the connection in Mandrake Control Center, specifying the right hostname and the restarting to see the effect? Possible that Mandrake is setting a hostname in a specific script that is covered by the GUI that you are not finding. Now, my system didn't work that way, I only had to issue the command hostname blah from the CLI as root and I never had to reset it again but YMMV. To find it you could grep the /etc/directory recursively for the incorrect name to find the script that is doing that. You might try looking at the dhclient.conf files, if it is transmitting the hostname to the dhcp server or something. Also, it could potentially have something to do with zeroconf and zcip. Do you have those services on or off? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 hostname problem
On Friday 09 July 2004 07:12 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: -On Thursday 08 July 2004 02:45 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: - - Anyone have any ideas whats going on here? Thanks! - -Hate to suggest something so ungeeky, but have you tried opening up the -connection in Mandrake Control Center, specifying the right hostname and the -restarting to see the effect? Possible that Mandrake is setting a hostname -in a specific script that is covered by the GUI that you are not finding. - -Now, my system didn't work that way, I only had to issue the command hostname -blah from the CLI as root and I never had to reset it again but YMMV. - shrugs If it works, right? I'll try it the next time I get a chance. Man...I'm just having to work way too hard on this release. :-( -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 hostname problem
On Friday 09 July 2004 09:53 am, Greg Meyer wrote: -To find it you could grep the /etc/directory recursively for the incorrect -name to find the script that is doing that. You might try looking at the -dhclient.conf files, if it is transmitting the hostname to the dhcp server or -something. - -Also, it could potentially have something to do with zeroconf and zcip. Do -you have those services on or off? I'll give all these suggestions a shot - As per standard operating protocol, I always turn off unnecessary services, but I'll check again to see if those are running. Thanks. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] 10.0 hostname problem
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ronald J. Hall Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 2:45 PM To: MDK Newbie Subject: [newbie] 10.0 hostname problem Okay, I'm still trying to sort out stuff on my sons comp and here is the latest problem (I don't know why I didn't notice this earlier). We have a 4 comp LAN here, 3 desktops hardwired, and 1 laptop via wireless. The comps run like this: 192.168.0.100 darkforce.ky.org (my main comp, v9.2, no problems) 192.168.0.101 darkforce2.ky.org (my sons - the 10.0 problem comp) 192.168.0.102 darkforce3.ky.org (younger son, v9.2 no problems) 192.168.0.104 darkforce4.ky.org (my laptop, v9.2, no problems) On my sons comp, I have: 192.168.0.101 darkforce2.ky.org darkforce2 in /etc/hosts I've got: HOSTNAME=darkforce2.ky.org IPADDR=192.168.0.101 in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts should be a directory: [EMAIL PROTECTED] network]# ls -ld /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jun 15 10:54 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts// I think you should put HOSTNAME in /etc/sysconfig/network: [EMAIL PROTECTED] network]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=yes DHCP_HOSTNAME=elmo.notsolameanswer.org HOSTNAME=elmo.notsolameanswer.org DOMAINNAME=notsolameanswer.org Also, I don't think you can set IPADDR in this file. It should be set in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0: [EMAIL PROTECTED] network]# cat ifcfg-eth0 DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=none IPADDR=192.168.4.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.4.0 BROADCAST=192.168.4.255 ONBOOT=yes MII_NOT_SUPPORTED=yes HTH, Bill and I set the IP address and hostname in the Internet wizard as well as being root and just doing a hostname darkforce2.ky.org. Never the less, when I open up a terminal, or do uname -a, it reports the system as being darkforce3.ky.org. As root, I can do a hostname darkforce2.ky.org, log out of any terminal and log back in and then it shows the correct hostname. Until I reboot. Then the 3 shows up again. Anyone have any ideas whats going on here? Thanks! -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 performance tweaks?
On Sunday 04 July 2004 06:42 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Just wondering, are there any general tweaks that can be done to 10.0 (Powerpack, official boxed set) to up the performance a bit? Especially with games. I've got it installed on my sons computer and games are definitely much slower than v9.2 installed on the same hardware: Soyo MB - 256 megs PC2100 DDR ram 1.3 Duron CPU 80 gig 7200rpm Maxtor HD Nvidia Geforce2 - 32 megs Are you sure your running the nvidia, not the nv video driver. Check your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. 10.0 had a script that would modify the file to use the nv driver if the nvidia driver was not present, so you may be running nv and not even know it. The reason this was done was that too many people complained that X would not start and they got dumped to a command line if the nvidia driver was not installed properly. Now X will start, but the driver reverts to nv, so a lot of people that had troubloe installing the nvidia driver are running nv and they don't even know the thing didn't get installed properly. -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 performance tweaks?
On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 08:42, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Just wondering, are there any general tweaks that can be done to 10.0 (Powerpack, official boxed set) to up the performance a bit? Especially with games. I've got it installed on my sons computer and games are definitely much slower than v9.2 installed on the same hardware: Soyo MB - 256 megs PC2100 DDR ram 1.3 Duron CPU 80 gig 7200rpm Maxtor HD Nvidia Geforce2 - 32 megs He's got the stock 2.6.xxx kernel, running KDE, with all updates from Mandrake applied. It doesn't matter whether or not its a Linux native game (Tribes2, Rune, etc) or a Winex (3.x or Cedega) game like Starcraft. All are noticeably slower. Starcraft is almost unplayable across the LAN. Any help,hints or tips would be greatly appreciated! Have you trimmed down the running services, tweaked the /etc/sysconfig/harddisks file and tested the hdparm settings? stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products This fortune is inoperative. Please try another. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 performance tweaks?
Dnia pon 5. lipca 2004 19:29, Greg Meyer napisa: On Sunday 04 July 2004 06:42 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Just wondering, are there any general tweaks that can be done to 10.0 (Powerpack, official boxed set) to up the performance a bit? Especially with games. I've got it installed on my sons computer and games are definitely much slower than v9.2 installed on the same hardware: Soyo MB - 256 megs PC2100 DDR ram 1.3 Duron CPU 80 gig 7200rpm Maxtor HD Nvidia Geforce2 - 32 megs Are you sure your running the nvidia, not the nv video driver. Check your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. 10.0 had a script that would modify the file to use the nv driver if the nvidia driver was not present, so you may be running nv and not even know it. The reason this was done was that too many people complained that X would not start and they got dumped to a command line if the nvidia driver was not installed properly. Now X will start, but the driver reverts to nv, so a lot of people that had troubloe installing the nvidia driver are running nv and they don't even know the thing didn't get installed properly. How to do that? Though I believe I'm running nvidia (the nvidia splash appears at my X startup)... -- Cezary Morga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GG# 169903 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 performance tweaks?
On Monday 05 July 2004 07:07 am, Lanman wrote: -Ronald; You've probably thought of these possibilities, but just in -case, try this; - -1) hdparm - -http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialOptimization.html Been there, DMA is turned on and he's getting pretty decent transfer rates. Somehow I don't think this is an issue from the HD or CD... -2) Perhaps an Athlon CPU? Hmm, I think his board will support up to a 1.2 pure Athlon but the point is that under 9.2, games fly compared to 10.0... -3) Try turning off as many un-needed services as possible. Of couse, harddraek, postfix, sendmail, etc, etc, all the usual suspects. :-) -HTH - -Lanman Thanks for the reply, Lanman. (good to see you on the list). -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 performance tweaks?
On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 04:55, Cezary Morga wrote: How to do that? Though I believe I'm running nvidia (the nvidia splash appears at my X startup)... If you're seeing the Nvidia splash, you're all right mate. stephen kuhn - proprietor __ illawarra computer services :: a kuhn media australia venture http://kma.0catch.com :: mobile 0410.728.389 Serving Sydney, The Illawarra, South Coast and Rural NSW __ * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents __ Certified virus-free since we don't use Microsoft products Sic transit gloria Monday! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 performance tweaks?
On Monday 05 July 2004 01:29 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: -Are you sure your running the nvidia, not the nv video driver. Check -your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. 10.0 had a script that would modify the -file to use the nv driver if the nvidia driver was not present, so you may be -running nv and not even know it. Hmm, I had a problem with the installed Nvidia driver, (the infamous no screen found error) so I just installed the latest Nvidia driver, the just released one thats supposed to include support for 2.6.xxx kernels. Glxgears is giving good fps, so I don't think thats it. I will check just to make sure the next time I'm on his box though. -The reason this was done was that too many people complained that X would not -start and they got dumped to a command line if the nvidia driver was not -installed properly. Now X will start, but the driver reverts to nv, so a lot -of people that had troubloe installing the nvidia driver are running nv and -they don't even know the thing didn't get installed properly. Further note, I do get the Nvidia splash screen when booting up. Thanks for the reply. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 performance tweaks?
On Monday 05 July 2004 12:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: -Have you trimmed down the running services, tweaked the -/etc/sysconfig/harddisks file and tested the hdparm settings? - -stephen kuhn - proprietor Yep, DMA is turned on for /dev/hda, hdc, hdd etc, etc, and transfer rates are fine for his setup. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 performance tweaks?
Ronald J. Hall wrote: Thanks for the reply, Lanman. (good to see you on the list). Yup. Still here, except when I'm lurking on the Commodore64 lists for some advanced programming tips. Today, we're working on getting a mouse to work! Yeah! Life is good! (smirk) Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 file association question?
Just installed 10.0 (Official - PowerPack) on my sons comp (another thread - his comp had problems - turned out to be a memory stick and the HD was getting old). Installed Kview - works - trying to figure out how to do file associations? Under 9.2 right-clicking on the file in question gave you the option - looks like its gone now. I guess its somewhere in the KDE desktop manager? Thanks. -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 file association question?
On Saturday 03 July 2004 01:33 pm, Cezary Morga wrote: -Right click then 'Open with', choose the program and check the lowest line -(something about remembering this application to this file type). Though -after system restart this association is gone. -To be sure it'll be associated for good check control center - components - -file association or something (I'm using polish version so I'm not sure what -exactly it'll be called in your version :)) Thanks Cezary - I'll try that. I wish they had left it the way it was under 9.2 though - much simpler/easier. :-) -- /\ Dark Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 and laptop modem [soundcard].
Hello, Thanks for the input, I forgot that I myself had started the at boot thing, at least it doesn't take an age (or 45 secs., whichever comes first) to boot [although any information on how to teach it to not try to start the sound (since it can't seem to detect the soundcard) would be helpful]. According to tuxmobil.org/, the card works (on one hand good news, but on the other hand, it ain't working). Since the tips page on that site mentioned unknown modems, and my modem is under the unknow/other rubric on the hardware lookup, I thought that I might need to: put the modified output of cardctl ident into /etc/pcmcia/config.opts accordingly and bind the serial_cs module to it. this sounds like a lead until cardctl ident returns no product info available (a more astute person might have espected this since all the ATI values were returned as blank, but hope springs eternal). cardctl status says that both function 0 and function 1 on socket 0 are [ready], and I don't beleive I have two sockets, I have hope still, proving the point. My newest theory invoves the device section of the kppp options, the only time I got a modem query to do anything other than reply that the modem is busy is when I select /dev/ttyS2 as the device. I notice that there are many, many other options, could this be a clue? With an advance of thanks, James Henry Maiewski On Monday 31 May 2004 05:09 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: You may want to go to http://pcmcia_linux.html and see if your card is supported. You may need a specail driver for the modem part of the card. (Winmodem?) You should also be able to get more information on the card using cardctl info 0 or cardctl info 1 depending on what slot it is in. Mikkel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 and laptop modem [soundcard].
James Henry Maiewski wrote: Hello, Thanks for the input, I forgot that I myself had started the at boot thing, at least it doesn't take an age (or 45 secs., whichever comes first) to boot [although any information on how to teach it to not try to start the sound (since it can't seem to detect the soundcard) would be helpful]. According to tuxmobil.org/, the card works (on one hand good news, but on the other hand, it ain't working). Since the tips page on that site mentioned unknown modems, and my modem is under the unknow/other rubric on the hardware lookup, I thought that I might need to: put the modified output of cardctl ident into /etc/pcmcia/config.opts accordingly and bind the serial_cs module to it. this sounds like a lead until cardctl ident returns no product info available (a more astute person might have espected this since all the ATI values were returned as blank, but hope springs eternal). cardctl status says that both function 0 and function 1 on socket 0 are [ready], and I don't beleive I have two sockets, I have hope still, proving the point. This is saying that both functions of the card is socket 0 are working. So it thinks that the modem and the ethernet parts are working. My newest theory invoves the device section of the kppp options, the only time I got a modem query to do anything other than reply that the modem is busy is when I select /dev/ttyS2 as the device. I notice that there are many, many other options, could this be a clue? It sounds like the modem is on the third serial port. Does this laptop have 2 serial ports, or 1 serial port, and an I/R port that is enabled? If so, that would explain /dev/ttyS2. One thing you could try - as root, run minicom, pick port /dev/ttyS2, and see if you can talk to the modem. You can try a couple of commands to see if the modem responds. AT ATI If the modem responds to them, then you can ether use /dev/ttyS2 as your device for ppp, or link /dev/modem to /dev/ttyS2 With an advance of thanks, James Henry Maiewski I have found that some cardbus devices do not respond to cardctl info or cardctl ident with anything usefully. Cardbus devices look like PCI cards to the system. Anyway, I hope this helps some. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 and laptop modem [soundcard].
Hello, I've just installed 10.0 on a Hewlett Packard OmniBook 4150 that I got gratis (i.e., as is, no manuals etc.). It has an Ethernet/modem card Identified as Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 on PCI a bus 2:0:0. Under unknowns there is Cardbus Ethernet + 56Kmodem: PCI 2:0:1. Now, I can get kppp to find the modem, and I can query it with the result that ATI 0-7 are all returned blank. When I enter the terminal, it signals modem ready, but the terminal will accept no input. nothing that I type will be displayed no CR no nothing. If I reset the modem, the cursor will move down one line , but that's the extent of my terminal range of motion. When booting, there is a Bringing up eth0: call which takes about 45 seconds to tell me a bunch of stuff that looks reasonable considering I have to ethernet cable in the card (zcip...address...no conflicts...claiming xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx), but it's pretty much Greek to me. I'm wondering if a) I can stop it from bringing up eth0, and b) wether this eth0 is somehow interfering with my kppp terminal? While there's a chance someone's reading this who might know, I'll say that the sound card, detected as MagicMedia 256AV results in No soundcards found during boot. suggestions? With an advance of thanks, James Henry Maiewski Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 and laptop modem [soundcard].
On Monday 31 May 2004 21:26, James Henry Maiewski wrote: Hello, I've just installed 10.0 on a Hewlett Packard OmniBook 4150 that I got gratis (i.e., as is, no manuals etc.). It has an Ethernet/modem card Identified as Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 on PCI a bus 2:0:0. Under unknowns there is Cardbus Ethernet + 56Kmodem: PCI 2:0:1. Now, I can get kppp to find the modem, and I can query it with the result that ATI 0-7 are all returned blank. When I enter the terminal, it signals modem ready, but the terminal will accept no input. nothing that I type will be displayed no CR no nothing. If I reset the modem, the cursor will move down one line , but that's the extent of my terminal range of motion. When booting, there is a Bringing up eth0: call which takes about 45 seconds to tell me a bunch of stuff that looks reasonable considering I have to ethernet cable in the card (zcip...address...no conflicts...claiming xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx), but it's pretty much Greek to me. I'm wondering if a) I can stop it from bringing up eth0, and b) wether this eth0 is somehow interfering with my kppp terminal? While there's a chance someone's reading this who might know, I'll say that the sound card, detected as MagicMedia 256AV results in No soundcards found during boot. suggestions? With an advance of thanks, James Henry Maiewski Mandrake Control CentreNetworkManage ConnectionsOptions Untick the box to 'Start on Boot' That will speed up your booting ,but is unlikely to bring life to your modem card. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 and laptop modem [soundcard].
James Henry Maiewski wrote: Hello, I've just installed 10.0 on a Hewlett Packard OmniBook 4150 that I got gratis (i.e., as is, no manuals etc.). It has an Ethernet/modem card Identified as Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 on PCI a bus 2:0:0. Under unknowns there is Cardbus Ethernet + 56Kmodem: PCI 2:0:1. Now, I can get kppp to find the modem, and I can query it with the result that ATI 0-7 are all returned blank. When I enter the terminal, it signals modem ready, but the terminal will accept no input. nothing that I type will be displayed no CR no nothing. If I reset the modem, the cursor will move down one line , but that's the extent of my terminal range of motion. When booting, there is a Bringing up eth0: call which takes about 45 seconds to tell me a bunch of stuff that looks reasonable considering I have to ethernet cable in the card (zcip...address...no conflicts...claiming xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx), but it's pretty much Greek to me. I'm wondering if a) I can stop it from bringing up eth0, and b) wether this eth0 is somehow interfering with my kppp terminal? While there's a chance someone's reading this who might know, I'll say that the sound card, detected as MagicMedia 256AV results in No soundcards found during boot. suggestions? With an advance of thanks, James Henry Maiewski You may want to go to http://tuxmobil.org/pcmcia_linux.html and see if your card is supported. You may need a specail driver for the modem part of the card. (Winmodem?) You should also be able to get more information on the card using cardctl info 0 or cardctl info 1 depending on what slot it is in. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
JoeHill wrote: It seems to be sending three copies of your mail to the list, too! Maybe that's what's slowing your system down... ;-) :-) raf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player
On Friday 21 May 2004 04:38, Guy Rouillier wrote: I've installed 10.0 RC1 AMD64 on my eMachines laptop. Most things are working well. However, I can't figure out how to get sound out of the CD player (gnome.) Linux is using the ALSA sound system. If I run the Totem media player, I do hear sound, and external speakers hooked up to the headphone jack work fine also. I also hear system sounds fine. But neither CD Player nor xmms (with alsa plug-in selected or output) produce any sound (and yes, the CD is playing - I can see the light flickering and the progress bars are moving in both players.) Any ideas how to get this to work? Thanks. You probably need an audio cable. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player
Guy Rouillier wrote: I've installed 10.0 RC1 AMD64 on my eMachines laptop. Most things are working well. However, I can't figure out how to get sound out of the CD player (gnome.) Linux is using the ALSA sound system. If I run the Totem media player, I do hear sound, and external speakers hooked up to the headphone jack work fine also. I also hear system sounds fine. But neither CD Player nor xmms (with alsa plug-in selected or output) produce any sound (and yes, the CD is playing - I can see the light flickering and the progress bars are moving in both players.) Any ideas how to get this to work? Thanks. I don't know if this is much help to you but I recently had a similar problem with my sound card(chip) and aRts ,and the mixers given me to set up the audio lines for all the system. I found kmix, the default install with kde,limited in the number of lines it can actually handle, I was tempted to install aumix as well, and did so once to no avail, then quite by chance I discovered a much more numerous lines mixer called alsamixer . Just type alsamixer into a terminal and begin fiddling with the many lines that are available. It's s keyboard app but has many more channels of audio stream. In my case I think maybe my problem was that I had extra streams of sterio audio from the 5.1 dolby sound chip capability , or it may just of been a problem with the aRts not handling the multi audio stream properly, anyway after some time fiddling with alsamixer together with kmix I managed to restore sound.I know this is not very scientific , and may not be your problem at all, but it's worth a try. I suppose you have already been down the draksound route John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player
On Fri, 21 May 2004 08:26:47 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably need an audio cable. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html Derek, thanks for the reply, but I doubt that is it. If you reread my original message, I do here the CD if I use the Totem media player. Only when I try CD Player (gnome) or xmms do I not hear anything. The fact that it works with Totem means the hardware is okay. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player
Guy Rouillier wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2004 08:26:47 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably need an audio cable. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html Derek, thanks for the reply, but I doubt that is it. If you reread my original message, I do here the CD if I use the Totem media player. Only when I try CD Player (gnome) or xmms do I not hear anything. The fact that it works with Totem means the hardware is okay. Do these apps point to the right device? Sir Robin -- Don't be lucid and ironic; people will turn this against you to show that you aren't a nice person. - Albert Camus Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player
On Friday 21 May 2004 22:53, Guy Rouillier wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2004 08:26:47 +0100 Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You probably need an audio cable. http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html Derek, thanks for the reply, but I doubt that is it. If you reread my original message, I do here the CD if I use the Totem media player. Only when I try CD Player (gnome) or xmms do I not hear anything. The fact that it works with Totem means the hardware is okay. derek Uhm, if you read http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/audio_cd.html you will see you can get audio using the analog audio cable or the IDE cable; in the later case the digital/analog conversion is done on the soundcard. Derek's site mentions Totem as an application that uses the IDE interface so that works without the audio cable. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: I never used Mdk 9, but I can tell you I was impressed with the speed of 10.0, both CE and Official. I revived an ancient (~6 years old) NT machine, Pentium II 400MHz, graphics card so old it's no longer supported by the vendor. I was surprised how responsive it is on such an old machine - practically instantaneous. It gets sluggish only if there are heavy background processes running, but that's to be expected. I'm not saying 10.0 is slow, I'm just saying it is slower than 9.2. I believe the 2.6 kernel has been optimized for server environment, not desktop. Have you tried running top to see if there's something else chewing up your cpu? I've had some runaway kde processes a couple of times (most notably konqueror on certain web sites). 3D programs also kill my performance, because I only have s/w rendering. I use IceWM, it's much lighter than KDE or Gnome. No, nothing is eating up CPU, it's just slower. raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: I never used Mdk 9, but I can tell you I was impressed with the speed of 10.0, both CE and Official. I revived an ancient (~6 years old) NT machine, Pentium II 400MHz, graphics card so old it's no longer supported by the vendor. I was surprised how responsive it is on such an old machine - practically instantaneous. It gets sluggish only if there are heavy background processes running, but that's to be expected. I'm not saying 10.0 is slow, I'm just saying it is slower than 9.2. I believe the 2.6 kernel has been optimized for server environment, not desktop. Have you tried running top to see if there's something else chewing up your cpu? I've had some runaway kde processes a couple of times (most notably konqueror on certain web sites). 3D programs also kill my performance, because I only have s/w rendering. I use IceWM, it's much lighter than KDE or Gnome. No, nothing is eating up CPU, it's just slower. raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: I never used Mdk 9, but I can tell you I was impressed with the speed of 10.0, both CE and Official. I revived an ancient (~6 years old) NT machine, Pentium II 400MHz, graphics card so old it's no longer supported by the vendor. I was surprised how responsive it is on such an old machine - practically instantaneous. It gets sluggish only if there are heavy background processes running, but that's to be expected. I'm not saying 10.0 is slow, I'm just saying it is slower than 9.2. I believe the 2.6 kernel has been optimized for server environment, not desktop. Have you tried running top to see if there's something else chewing up your cpu? I've had some runaway kde processes a couple of times (most notably konqueror on certain web sites). 3D programs also kill my performance, because I only have s/w rendering. I use IceWM, it's much lighter than KDE or Gnome. No, nothing is eating up CPU, it's just slower. raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 errata
Hi all I just acquired the 4-CD set of Mandrake 10 final, and was offered and bought) an extra CD of Errata with them, for an extra $10. Installation as an upgrade over 9.1 went smoothly and I am pleased with the new system. However, from the Drakconf tool, I have been unable to make the Errata RPMs available for updates. Opening the media manager I can set Errata to point to removable://mnt/cdrom/base with relative path to synthesis/hdlist:/hdlist.cz This is accepted without error, but when I try to run updates from the graphic manager, or from urpmi in an suid root shell, I get a request for the disc, but it cannot apparently be read. Attempting to read the CD in Konqueror seems OK Can anyone enlighten me as to what I am doing wrong? Still on dial-up, but expecting ADSL next week. Had I known that was coming I would have saved the $10! Thanks for thoughts Russell PS tail -syslog gives: (horace is the host name) May 19 19:56:54 horace MandrakeUpdate[29632]: Installing package removable://mnt/cdrom/base/./libkdenetwork2-ksirc-3.2-17.1.100mdk.i586.rpm May 19 19:57:14 horace kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG lowlevel.c:57:udf_get_last_session: XA disk: no, vol_desc_start=0 May 19 19:57:14 horace kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:1426:udf_read_super: Multi-session=0 May 19 19:57:14 horace kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:415:udf_vrs: Starting at sector 16 (2048 byte sectors) May 19 19:57:15 horace kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:442:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Primary Volume Descriptor found May 19 19:57:15 horace kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:445:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Supplementary Volume Descriptor found May 19 19:57:15 horace kernel: UDF-fs DEBUG super.c:451:udf_vrs: ISO9660 Volume Descriptor Set Terminator found May 19 19:57:15 horace kernel: UDF-fs: No VRS found May 19 19:57:15 horace kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3 May 19 19:57:15 horace kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A May 19 19:57:24 horace kernel: cdrom: open failed. May 19 19:57:31 horace last message repeated 2 times May 19 20:01:00 horace CROND[29803]: (root) CMD (nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.hourly) May 19 20:01:09 horace smbd[29818]: [2004/05/19 20:01:09, 0] lib/access.c:check_access(328) May 19 20:01:09 horace smbd[29818]: Denied connection from 211.27.150.64 (211.27.150.64) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 errata
Russell Butler napsal(a): Hi all I just acquired the 4-CD set of Mandrake 10 final, and was offered and bought) an extra CD of Errata with them, for an extra $10. Installation as an upgrade over 9.1 went smoothly and I am pleased with the new system. However, from the Drakconf tool, I have been unable to make the Errata RPMs available for updates. Opening the media manager I can set Errata to point to removable://mnt/cdrom/base with relative path to synthesis/hdlist:/hdlist.cz try ./hdlist.cz -- Daniel Hrbac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:15:30 +0200 Raffaele BELARDI disseminated the following: I never used Mdk 9, but I can tell you I was impressed with the speed of 10.0, both CE and Official. I revived an ancient (~6 years old) NT machine, Pentium II 400MHz, graphics card so old it's no longer supported by the vendor. I was surprised how responsive it is on such an old machine - practically instantaneous. It gets sluggish only if there are heavy background processes running, but that's to be expected. I'm not saying 10.0 is slow, I'm just saying it is slower than 9.2. I believe the 2.6 kernel has been optimized for server environment, not desktop. Have you tried running top to see if there's something else chewing up your cpu? I've had some runaway kde processes a couple of times (most notably konqueror on certain web sites). 3D programs also kill my performance, because I only have s/w rendering. I use IceWM, it's much lighter than KDE or Gnome. No, nothing is eating up CPU, it's just slower. It seems to be sending three copies of your mail to the list, too! Maybe that's what's slowing your system down... ;-) -- JoeHill RLU #282046 / www.orderinchaos.org Kernel 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdk Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 +++ 12:36:25 up 1 day, 1:16, 8 users, load average: 0.75, 0.37, 0.27 +++ A Senate hearing into the abuse of Iraqi prisoners was told on Tuesday that Lt. Gen. William Boykin, an evangelical Christian under review for saying his God was superior to that of the Muslims, briefed a top Pentagon civilian official last summer on recommendations on ways military interrogators could gain more intelligence from Iraqi prisoners. -- Andrea Shalal-Esa, Reuters, May 15 2004 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player
I've installed 10.0 RC1 AMD64 on my eMachines laptop. Most things are working well. However, I can't figure out how to get sound out of the CD player (gnome.) Linux is using the ALSA sound system. If I run the Totem media player, I do hear sound, and external speakers hooked up to the headphone jack work fine also. I also hear system sounds fine. But neither CD Player nor xmms (with alsa plug-in selected or output) produce any sound (and yes, the CD is playing - I can see the light flickering and the progress bars are moving in both players.) Any ideas how to get this to work? Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 How to get sound out of CD Player
--- Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've installed 10.0 RC1 AMD64 on my eMachines laptop. Most things are working well. However, I can't figure out how to get sound out of the CD player (gnome.) Linux is using the ALSA sound system. If I run the Totem media player, I do hear sound, and external speakers hooked up to the headphone jack work fine also. I also hear system sounds fine. But neither CD Player nor xmms (with alsa plug-in selected or output) produce any sound (and yes, the CD is playing - I can see the light flickering and the progress bars are moving in both players.) Any ideas how to get this to work? Thanks. -- Guy Rouillier Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Hey Guy, Check your mixers, all of them if you have more than one installed. The default output is always zero. I had the same problem. Make sure all of the levels are set how you want them and that everything you need is enabled. Also pay attention to the pcm level. I hope this helps. tsw __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
John Drouhard wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 09:55 +0200, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: Simple test: same movies that in 9.2 played fine and smooth in 10.0 skip LOTS of frames What video card do you have? If it's an nvidia card, you might need to Nope, it's an ATI Radeon 7xxx (don't remember exact model). Next I will try installing the 9.2 version of mplayer into 10.0, just to rule out kernel issues. If it doesn't do the job, I'll have to go back to 9.2 :-( Don't install the 9.2 version of mplayer on 10.0, there will be dependency problems. Yes, I tried and gave up due to the dependencies issues (didn't want to spend too much time on it). Now I'm back to 9.2 :-( accessing a CD in 10.0 eats up all CPU, while in 9.2 it was only using a small fraction - like if it was not using DMA, but DMA is enabled for all drives. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the default mandrake kernels not include dma support? If they do, then I'm not sure what to do about the You are wrong :-) My understanding is that MDK (or the Linux kernel, not sure which) enables DMA for a drive by default, then disables it if it detects errors on drive access. On my other box, a 10.0 system, hdparm reports DMA enabled for the HDs, disabled for the CDROM (an old drive which I suspect does not support it). I remember somebody defining 10.0 speed daemon so I was quite negatively impressed by my results. Has anybody noticed such bad performance? It is a speed daemon :). No but really, its fast. Ok, demon :-). Anyway, I have to confirm my first impression. The 10.0 box is slower to react to GUI, slower to rip CDs, slower to mp3-encode them. Not much, but it can be appreciated. BTW, I got a confirmation on the first web article I googled: 2.6 better for server, equal or less than 2.4 for dektop. (http://www.2cpu.com/articles/98_1.html) bye, raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
For the day I had 10 running (many moons ago) it was noticeably faster than 9.2. The gui was nearly there before I clicked the button or hovered over the icon, I didn't do very much in it though before I rebooted and lost X. It was like I said noticeably faster. Tony. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Raffaele BELARDI Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2? John Drouhard wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 09:55 +0200, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: Simple test: same movies that in 9.2 played fine and smooth in 10.0 skip LOTS of frames What video card do you have? If it's an nvidia card, you might need to Nope, it's an ATI Radeon 7xxx (don't remember exact model). Next I will try installing the 9.2 version of mplayer into 10.0, just to rule out kernel issues. If it doesn't do the job, I'll have to go back to 9.2 :-( Don't install the 9.2 version of mplayer on 10.0, there will be dependency problems. Yes, I tried and gave up due to the dependencies issues (didn't want to spend too much time on it). Now I'm back to 9.2 :-( accessing a CD in 10.0 eats up all CPU, while in 9.2 it was only using a small fraction - like if it was not using DMA, but DMA is enabled for all drives. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the default mandrake kernels not include dma support? If they do, then I'm not sure what to do about the You are wrong :-) My understanding is that MDK (or the Linux kernel, not sure which) enables DMA for a drive by default, then disables it if it detects errors on drive access. On my other box, a 10.0 system, hdparm reports DMA enabled for the HDs, disabled for the CDROM (an old drive which I suspect does not support it). I remember somebody defining 10.0 speed daemon so I was quite negatively impressed by my results. Has anybody noticed such bad performance? It is a speed daemon :). No but really, its fast. Ok, demon :-). Anyway, I have to confirm my first impression. The 10.0 box is slower to react to GUI, slower to rip CDs, slower to mp3-encode them. Not much, but it can be appreciated. BTW, I got a confirmation on the first web article I googled: 2.6 better for server, equal or less than 2.4 for dektop. (http://www.2cpu.com/articles/98_1.html) bye, raffaele -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have recieved it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
On May 14, 2004 01:55, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: ... I remember somebody defining 10.0 speed daemon so I was quite negatively impressed by my results. Has anybody noticed such bad performance? raffaele I never used Mdk 9, but I can tell you I was impressed with the speed of 10.0, both CE and Official. I revived an ancient (~6 years old) NT machine, Pentium II 400MHz, graphics card so old it's no longer supported by the vendor. I was surprised how responsive it is on such an old machine - practically instantaneous. It gets sluggish only if there are heavy background processes running, but that's to be expected. Have you tried running top to see if there's something else chewing up your cpu? I've had some runaway kde processes a couple of times (most notably konqueror on certain web sites). 3D programs also kill my performance, because I only have s/w rendering. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 09:55 +0200, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: Simple test: same movies that in 9.2 played fine and smooth in 10.0 skip LOTS of frames. I tried with mplayer, xine and totem, always the same result. Yes, it's an old mobo (AMD K6-2/550), but in 9.2 it did its job. What video card do you have? If it's an nvidia card, you might need to install the nvidia drivers from http://www.nvidia.com/ So I successfully installed the 2.4.25 kernel provided on the 10.0 cd, but was unable to configure the ISA PNP audio card. The isapnp utility configures and enables the card without errors, but modprobe snd-azt2320 exits with an error (no azt2320 card found). Card works fine in 9.2 and 10.0 with 2.6 kernel. Next I will try installing the 9.2 version of mplayer into 10.0, just to rule out kernel issues. If it doesn't do the job, I'll have to go back to 9.2 :-( Don't install the 9.2 version of mplayer on 10.0, there will be dependency problems. Also, while burning a CD the system does not respond to any command. It's not frozen (icewm responds fine), but application it will not even start to load it until the cd burning is finished. And, accessing a CD in 10.0 eats up all CPU, while in 9.2 it was only using a small fraction - like if it was not using DMA, but DMA is enabled for all drives. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the default mandrake kernels not include dma support? If they do, then I'm not sure what to do about the cd accessing problem. As for the system not responding while burning cd's - there is a way to lower the priority of the process, but I can't remember what it is. Also, I know for a fact the default mandrake kernels DO NOT compile preemptible support. If you know how to compile kernels, may I suggest compiling a 2.6 kernel with preemptible support and dma support both included? I remember somebody defining 10.0 speed daemon so I was quite negatively impressed by my results. Has anybody noticed such bad performance? It is a speed daemon :). No but really, its fast. HTH, John -- Tue May 18 16:47:58 CDT 2004 Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Cooker) for i586 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. -- W.E. Hickson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 slower than 9.2?
Simple test: same movies that in 9.2 played fine and smooth in 10.0 skip LOTS of frames. I tried with mplayer, xine and totem, always the same result. Yes, it's an old mobo (AMD K6-2/550), but in 9.2 it did its job. So I successfully installed the 2.4.25 kernel provided on the 10.0 cd, but was unable to configure the ISA PNP audio card. The isapnp utility configures and enables the card without errors, but modprobe snd-azt2320 exits with an error (no azt2320 card found). Card works fine in 9.2 and 10.0 with 2.6 kernel. Next I will try installing the 9.2 version of mplayer into 10.0, just to rule out kernel issues. If it doesn't do the job, I'll have to go back to 9.2 :-( Also, while burning a CD the system does not respond to any command. It's not frozen (icewm responds fine), but application it will not even start to load it until the cd burning is finished. And, accessing a CD in 10.0 eats up all CPU, while in 9.2 it was only using a small fraction - like if it was not using DMA, but DMA is enabled for all drives. I remember somebody defining 10.0 speed daemon so I was quite negatively impressed by my results. Has anybody noticed such bad performance? raffaele Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Official CD's
Check out this thread over at linuxquestions.org. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=926547#post926547 I followed the instructions given in the above post and created 5 ISO files which I used to burn Mandrake 10 Official onto 5 CD's. It just takes a little bit more work than downloading the ISO files directly. I hope this helps. On Wednesday 12 May 2004 03:27 pm, Alex Brooks wrote: Hi Di Hi Campers! Just wondering if anyone has any idea when the 10.0 official CDs will appear on the public mirrors, as the MDK home page says: *April 14th, 2004 - Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official is available!-...* The public FTP tree of Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official has also started to appear on mirrors, and public ISO images will be released on early May. It's the 12th of may and still no sign... Before anyone says, I was intending to try MDK out and get it working before I think about becoming a club member. Thanks for your help. Alex Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 Official CD's
Hi Di Hi Campers! Just wondering if anyone has any idea when the 10.0 official CDs will appear on the public mirrors, as the MDK home page says: *April 14th, 2004 - Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official is available!-...* The public FTP tree of Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official has also started to appear on mirrors, and public ISO images will be released on early May. It's the 12th of may and still no sign... Before anyone says, I was intending to try MDK out and get it working before I think about becoming a club member. Thanks for your help. Alex Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] 10.0 CE printing problems
Worked like a charm! Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JRH Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 10.0 CE printing problems On Friday 30 Apr 2004 17:32, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: I can't get my printer, an HP Deskjet 845c, to print from 10.0CE I got an old HP DJ520... It's that old, you have to wait for it to get steam up first! Mine wouldnt print, until I installed package HPOJ. It shouldnt have needed it, but it did! When you run the printer installation wizard, it will throw up a little window, asking if your printer is one of a few types, a couple of them being HP Laserjet and OfficeJet. Click yes, and it will install the HPOJ package. Give it a try, it worked for me! JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10 Community Exposing Microsoft products directly to the internet, is a bit like painting a large bullseye on your butt, and bending over, naked, in a San Francisco steam room. Except, Microsoft isnt nearly as safe Registered Linux User #340061 ICQ: #86015236 Yahoo!: v6vitanic 18:57:48 up 3:42, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.24, 0.42 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0
Rory wrote: Greg, if you downloaded 10 Community, put the 2nd CD in first, which will boot you in to Mandrake. Then, remove that CD, put in CD1 and you'll be able to install. It was a bug that's since been resolved. On Thursday 29 April 2004 10:02 pm, Greg wrote: i have a spare puter and i was thinking of trying out 10.0 is it worth it or should i wait i tried to download and burn the cd but i cant get it to work right so i was thinking of buying the cd thanks greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I just found the May PCXPERT magazine with 4 cds of Mandrake 10.0, haven't opend it yet... Must be the comunity version... And they give also some linux stickers ;-) in it... publicity, publicity! Just one problem it is sold in Turkey! Hope that in other countries they do the same thing. Bye Christophe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 CE printing problems
On Friday 30 Apr 2004 17:32, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: I can't get my printer, an HP Deskjet 845c, to print from 10.0CE I got an old HP DJ520... It's that old, you have to wait for it to get steam up first! Mine wouldnt print, until I installed package HPOJ. It shouldnt have needed it, but it did! When you run the printer installation wizard, it will throw up a little window, asking if your printer is one of a few types, a couple of them being HP Laserjet and OfficeJet. Click yes, and it will install the HPOJ package. Give it a try, it worked for me! JRH -- Sent using Kmail, on Mandrake Linux 10 Community Exposing Microsoft products directly to the internet, is a bit like painting a large bullseye on your butt, and bending over, naked, in a San Francisco steam room. Except, Microsoft isnt nearly as safe Registered Linux User #340061 ICQ: #86015236 Yahoo!: v6vitanic 18:57:48 up 3:42, 1 user, load average: 0.23, 0.24, 0.42 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 CE printing problems
On April 29, 2004 23:24, Bill Echols wrote: Hi, I can't get my printer, an HP Deskjet 845c, to print from 10.0CE. It queues up but the printer icon in the jobs it always has a red X on it. If I try to print a test page, it says everything went OK, but it just gets queued up. Sometimes when I go into CUPS I have to start the printer but still no printing occurs. I really need my printer as I am looking for work but I refuse to slink back to windows. I would rather not go back to 9.2. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Bill Don't know if any of this helps, but fwiw... My 990Cse didn't work with CE until I downloaded and installed the driver from HP. CE knew there was a printer there, but didn't know how to talk to it. Also, hotplug didn't work for me in CE. If I booted with the printer attached, I was fine. But if I unplugged and replugged, it wouldn't find the printer again (though I discovered some way in MCC to make it connect again; can't remember now). Both the driver and the hotplug problem were fixed when I went to 10.0 Official. I recommend this. -- Ron Hunter-Duvar ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to use these opinions are granted under the GNU GPL. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0
Greg, if you downloaded 10 Community, put the 2nd CD in first, which will boot you in to Mandrake. Then, remove that CD, put in CD1 and you'll be able to install. It was a bug that's since been resolved. On Thursday 29 April 2004 10:02 pm, Greg wrote: i have a spare puter and i was thinking of trying out 10.0 is it worth it or should i wait i tried to download and burn the cd but i cant get it to work right so i was thinking of buying the cd thanks greg -- ~Rory Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:48 pm, many eyes viewed Laura Callier's words:- Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura I think Margot had this earlier and she fixed it. See if she answers otherwise check on the Newbie archive, or the Expert archive. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 + Why level downward to our dullest perception always, and praise that as common sense? The commonest sense is the sense of men asleep, which they express by snoring. ...Henry David Thoreau This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
Charlie wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:48 pm, many eyes viewed Laura Callier's words:- Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura I think Margot had this earlier and she fixed it. See if she answers otherwise check on the Newbie archive, or the Expert archive. Charlie Hi Laura, sorry I'm late getting here, been busy with other things! Yes, I had the same problem, and yes, I fixed it - with a little help from my friends here! I had to install a new kernel, and then change settings for lilo. Which kernel are you running, Laura? To find out, open a terminal and give command uname -r (without the quotes), then copy/paste the results. Then we need to check your lilo settings. From a root terminal (won't work as normal user!) give command cat /etc/lilo.conf (again, without the quotes) then copy/paste the output. Once we know what you've got we can work out what to adjust! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
OK, thanks for the very detailed instructions...never had to do this with windows before, so this is a little new to me. laura On 4/11/04 8:47 AM, Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 01:48 pm, many eyes viewed Laura Callier's words:- Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura I think Margot had this earlier and she fixed it. See if she answers otherwise check on the Newbie archive, or the Expert archive. Charlie Hi Laura, sorry I'm late getting here, been busy with other things! Yes, I had the same problem, and yes, I fixed it - with a little help from my friends here! I had to install a new kernel, and then change settings for lilo. Which kernel are you running, Laura? To find out, open a terminal and give command uname -r (without the quotes), then copy/paste the results. Then we need to check your lilo settings. From a root terminal (won't work as normal user!) give command cat /etc/lilo.conf (again, without the quotes) then copy/paste the output. Once we know what you've got we can work out what to adjust! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 06:03 pm, many eyes viewed robin's words:- I'm not quite sure what you mean by things shut down except for an arrow, but I'm having a similar problem. It doesn't bother me that much, because I rarely shut down, but when I click to shutdown in KDE, I usually have to do it 3 to 4 times before it works. I assume that it's a bug that should be fixed with the Official 10.0 release. I occasionally have the same problem on boot-up. I don't know why it only happens occasionally - used to be Linux developers wrote bugs you could rely on ;-) Sir Robin Happened in 9.2 for me occasionally, and couldn't make shutting down stick till I added in /etc/modules.conf :- options snd-via82xx index=0 dxs_support=2 to get my sound card working, and it has shutdown without a problem or glitch ever since. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 + There is no odor so bad as that which arises from goodness tainted. ...Henry David Thoreau This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch?It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 13:48, Laura Callier wrote: Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura It's going to have to do with your APM and ACPI functions; what's the content of you /etc/lilo.conf file? stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- It is important to note that probably no large operating system using current design technology can withstand a determined and well-coordinated attack, and that most such documented penetrations have been remarkably easy. -- B. Hebbard, A Penetration Analysis of the Michigan Terminal System, Operating Systems Review, Vol. 14, No. 1, June 1980, pp. 7-20 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
On Saturday 10 April 2004 03:23 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 13:48, Laura Callier wrote: Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura It's going to have to do with your APM and ACPI functions; what's the content of you /etc/lilo.conf file? maybe not,,, depending on version,,, 10.0 had a kernel related problem with USB as I recall stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- It is important to note that probably no large operating system using current design technology can withstand a determined and well-coordinated attack, and that most such documented penetrations have been remarkably easy. -- B. Hebbard, A Penetration Analysis of the Michigan Terminal System, Operating Systems Review, Vol. 14, No. 1, June 1980, pp. 7-20 -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
Hi, OK, I'm going to reveal what a total computer novice I am...I don't know what a you/etc/lilo.config file is or how to access it. I understand completely if you don't want to take the time to explain it to me...I'll find out what that file is and how to check the content and get back to you. About USB, I am not using USB mouse or keyboard. I had the same shut down problem when I tried out Xandros last month...not only wouldn't it shut down, but it wouldn't let me use the power button to turn it off. Thanks, Laura - Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems On Saturday 10 April 2004 03:23 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 13:48, Laura Callier wrote: Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura It's going to have to do with your APM and ACPI functions; what's the content of you /etc/lilo.conf file? maybe not,,, depending on version,,, 10.0 had a kernel related problem with USB as I recall stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- It is important to note that probably no large operating system using current design technology can withstand a determined and well-coordinated attack, and that most such documented penetrations have been remarkably easy. -- B. Hebbard, A Penetration Analysis of the Michigan Terminal System, Operating Systems Review, Vol. 14, No. 1, June 1980, pp. 7-20 -- linux counter #167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
On Sunday 11 April 2004 02:26 am, Laura Callier wrote: Hi, OK, I'm going to reveal what a total computer novice I am...I don't know what a you/etc/lilo.config file is or how to access it. I understand completely if you don't want to take the time to explain it to me...I'll find out what that file is and how to check the content and get back to you. About USB, I am not using USB mouse or keyboard. I had the same shut down problem when I tried out Xandros last month...not only wouldn't it shut down, but it wouldn't let me use the power button to turn it off. Thanks, Laura - Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems On Saturday 10 April 2004 03:23 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 13:48, Laura Callier wrote: Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura It's going to have to do with your APM and ACPI functions; what's the content of you /etc/lilo.conf file? maybe not,,, depending on version,,, 10.0 had a kernel related problem with USB as I recall stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- It is important to note that probably no large operating system using current design technology can withstand a determined and well-coordinated attack, and that most such documented penetrations have been remarkably easy. -- B. Hebbard, A Penetration Analysis of the Michigan Terminal System, Operating Systems Review, Vol. 14, No. 1, June 1980, pp. 7-20 -- linux counter #167806 --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com How old is your computer? I had the same problem when I had a AMD K6 II on a Soyo mobo with the old via 133 chip set (I think that was it). The problem was with the mobo and not the Op Sys. Not much help unless you do have an older Motherboard. -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
Hi Dennis, Thanks for offering your info. Well, this is a fairly new computer...Dell desktop 8300 purchased last fall. Intel P4 2.8 processor. 1 g RAM. 120 g hd, radeon pro 9800. I tried 10.0 on a much older gateway Intel 2 333mhz, 64 RAM...the same thing happened. I tried them with the same monitor...maybe it's the monitor? It's viewsonic g90f...I checked a compatibility chart on the mandrake site but it hadn't been tested. Laura - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems On Sunday 11 April 2004 02:26 am, Laura Callier wrote: Hi, OK, I'm going to reveal what a total computer novice I am...I don't know what a you/etc/lilo.config file is or how to access it. I understand completely if you don't want to take the time to explain it to me...I'll find out what that file is and how to check the content and get back to you. About USB, I am not using USB mouse or keyboard. I had the same shut down problem when I tried out Xandros last month...not only wouldn't it shut down, but it wouldn't let me use the power button to turn it off. Thanks, Laura - Original Message - From: et [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems On Saturday 10 April 2004 03:23 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 13:48, Laura Callier wrote: Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura It's going to have to do with your APM and ACPI functions; what's the content of you /etc/lilo.conf file? maybe not,,, depending on version,,, 10.0 had a kernel related problem with USB as I recall stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- It is important to note that probably no large operating system using current design technology can withstand a determined and well-coordinated attack, and that most such documented penetrations have been remarkably easy. -- B. Hebbard, A Penetration Analysis of the Michigan Terminal System, Operating Systems Review, Vol. 14, No. 1, June 1980, pp. 7-20 -- linux counter #167806 -- - - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com How old is your computer? I had the same problem when I had a AMD K6 II on a Soyo mobo with the old via 133 chip set (I think that was it). The problem was with the mobo and not the Op Sys. Not much help unless you do have an older Motherboard. -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
Laura Callier wrote: Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura I'm not quite sure what you mean by things shut down except for an arrow, but I'm having a similar problem. It doesn't bother me that much, because I rarely shut down, but when I click to shutdown in KDE, I usually have to do it 3 to 4 times before it works. I assume that it's a bug that should be fixed with the Official 10.0 release. --Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
Marc Resnick wrote: Laura Callier wrote: Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura I'm not quite sure what you mean by things shut down except for an arrow, but I'm having a similar problem. It doesn't bother me that much, because I rarely shut down, but when I click to shutdown in KDE, I usually have to do it 3 to 4 times before it works. I assume that it's a bug that should be fixed with the Official 10.0 release. I occasionally have the same problem on boot-up. I don't know why it only happens occasionally - used to be Linux developers wrote bugs you could rely on ;-) Sir Robin -- If the lion could speak, we would not understand it. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
I'll try shutting it down several times. And, you're right, they'll most probably fix it with the official release...maybe I'll wait until then to do any tinkering. By the arrow I meant that when I clicked on shut off, the screen became black, but there was stillthe outline of my mouse's cursor, which I could move around on the black screen. Then, I pressed the power button and shut it down from there. Laura - Original Message - From: Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems Laura Callier wrote: Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura I'm not quite sure what you mean by things shut down except for an arrow, but I'm having a similar problem. It doesn't bother me that much, because I rarely shut down, but when I click to shutdown in KDE, I usually have to do it 3 to 4 times before it works. I assume that it's a bug that should be fixed with the Official 10.0 release. --Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
Hi, Well, as problems go it's not a big problem...but this is the first linux distro I'm going to try to use..after trying out some others...I suppose I should have tried 9.2 first, but, oh well...this is free (for awhile) :) I guess I'll learn as I go. Laura - Original Message - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems Marc Resnick wrote: Laura Callier wrote: Hello, New to Mandrake. Installed 10.0 from Cheap Bytes discs. So far all is well except there is no auto shut off. When I click shut off, things shut down except for an arrow. I am able to turn it off by using the power button, but would prefer an auto shut off. Does anyone know if 10.0 is designed for auto shut off or if this is a glitch? It could be a bios problem, but wanted to see what experience other have had. Thanks, Laura I'm not quite sure what you mean by things shut down except for an arrow, but I'm having a similar problem. It doesn't bother me that much, because I rarely shut down, but when I click to shutdown in KDE, I usually have to do it 3 to 4 times before it works. I assume that it's a bug that should be fixed with the Official 10.0 release. I occasionally have the same problem on boot-up. I don't know why it only happens occasionally - used to be Linux developers wrote bugs you could rely on ;-) Sir Robin -- If the lion could speak, we would not understand it. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0...shut down problems
On Sun, 2004-04-11 at 17:26, Laura Callier wrote: Hi, OK, I'm going to reveal what a total computer novice I am...I don't know what a you/etc/lilo.config file is or how to access it. I understand completely if you don't want to take the time to explain it to me...I'll find out what that file is and how to check the content and get back to you. About USB, I am not using USB mouse or keyboard. I had the same shut down problem when I tried out Xandros last month...not only wouldn't it shut down, but it wouldn't let me use the power button to turn it off. Thanks, Laura Just open any editor you have and type in the file location of: /etc/lilo.conf You'll be right. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- You can't push on a string. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 update
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 05:39:37 -0500 Lee Wiggers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist.cz http://www.eslrahc.com/10.0/hdlist.cz ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/stable/i586/Mandrake/RPMS../base/hdlist.cz Worked fine 10 minutes ago. Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 update
Just did two week worth of 10.0 updates without issue. What a pleasant surprise. Anyone need a mirror list? Lee Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
On Thursday 18 March 2004 02:11 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: You can use Cooker, but the last install I did was from Mandrake-devel/stable folder. It worked great. derek Until 10.0 becomes Offical, 'stable' and 'cooker' are the same thing. Cooker is a direct link, stable is currently symlinked to it. The fork won't occur til 10-OE is announced, and I believe that as in the past, cooker will be on hold for more than a week after 10-OE is released. BTW, there's been some hints by Warly and TV that current cooker is very close to 10-Official at this time. So it would be best, if everybody running 10-CE would update to current cooker now, as I suspect we're entering about a two week test period. It's doable even on a dialup. Speak now or forever hold your complaints ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
No here is a NEWBIE question.what/where is the cooker? Sorry for the stupid question. Thanks though! Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 18 March 2004 02:11 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: You can use Cooker, but the last install I did was from Mandrake-devel/stable folder. It worked great. derek Until 10.0 becomes Offical, 'stable' and 'cooker' are the same thing. Cooker is a direct link, stable is currently symlinked to it. The fork won't occur til 10-OE is announced, and I believe that as in the past, cooker will be on hold for more than a week after 10-OE is released. BTW, there's been some hints by Warly and TV that current cooker is very close to 10-Official at this time. So it would be best, if everybody running 10-CE would update to current cooker now, as I suspect we're entering about a two week test period. It's doable even on a dialup. Speak now or forever hold your complaints ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[Fwd: Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories]
Original Message Subject: Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:50:52 -0700 From: David Bachechi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] No here is a NEWBIE question.what/where is the cooker? Sorry for the stupid question. Thanks though! Tom Brinkman wrote: On Thursday 18 March 2004 02:11 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: You can use Cooker, but the last install I did was from Mandrake-devel/stable folder. It worked great. derek Until 10.0 becomes Offical, 'stable' and 'cooker' are the same thing. Cooker is a direct link, stable is currently symlinked to it. The fork won't occur til 10-OE is announced, and I believe that as in the past, cooker will be on hold for more than a week after 10-OE is released. BTW, there's been some hints by Warly and TV that current cooker is very close to 10-Official at this time. So it would be best, if everybody running 10-CE would update to current cooker now, as I suspect we're entering about a two week test period. It's doable even on a dialup. Speak now or forever hold your complaints ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
On Friday 19 March 2004 09:50 am, David Bachechi wrote: No here is a NEWBIE question.what/where is the cooker? As to what/where... http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3has a mirror list, but factor in http://manu.agat.net/mandrake/mirrors_state.html See also http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php(select 'cooker') On the first link above, read the whole page, and particularly the cooker twiki links http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10ReleaseNotes -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
Thanks, Couple of questions. Is urpmi the backend of Mandrake update, or a totally different thing? If I use Mandrake update, does that pull from the same source as the cooker(specifically in mandrake 10CE)? Or should I be using urpmi exclusively? Thanks agian! Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday 19 March 2004 09:50 am, David Bachechi wrote: No here is a NEWBIE question.what/where is the cooker? As to what/where... http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerdevel.php3has a mirror list, but factor in http://manu.agat.net/mandrake/mirrors_state.html See also http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php(select 'cooker') On the first link above, read the whole page, and particularly the cooker twiki links http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake10 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinux10ReleaseNotes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
On Friday 19 March 2004 11:26 am, David Bachechi wrote: Thanks, Couple of questions. Is urpmi the backend of Mandrake update, or a totally different thing? Yes, and rpm is what urpmi uses. There won't be a security/bugfix repository until after 10-OE is released. For now it's cooker. If I use Mandrake update, does that pull from the same source as the cooker(specifically in mandrake 10CE)? Or should I be using urpmi exclusively? I use urpmi on the CL. I don't know how to setup rpmdrake to do it with a GUI, but I believe you can do it. Just point it to cooker mirrors. Northern European are the best. Most all this info has been posted on newbie and expert before, so check the archives. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
Hi all, I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi with. Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker directories / hdlists? Thanks, -- Alexandre Aractingi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
Hi all, I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi with. Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker directories / hdlists? Thanks, -- Alexandre Aractingi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:08, Alexandre Aractingi wrote: Hi all, I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi with. Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker directories / hdlists? Thanks, Yes, If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very veery long (think days) install session. Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option. Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
Le jeu 18/03/2004 à 18:16, H.J.Bathoorn a écrit : If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very veery long (think days) install session. Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option. Thanks for your answer. Actually I already have the 3 iso's, but I was referring to all the other apps, contribs for example. Any (stable - frozen?) repository for them? Thanks, -- Alexandre Aractingi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
On Thursday 18 Mar 2004 17:16, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:08, Alexandre Aractingi wrote: Hi all, I'm about to upgrade a 9.2 system with the new 10.0 one, and I was wondering if there is any online repository available to configure urpmi with. Is 10.0 Community considered Cooker? Am I supposed to point at Cooker directories / hdlists? Thanks, Yes, If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very veery long (think days) install session. Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option. Good luck, HarM Maybe on dial up, I have upgraded two systems from 9.2 to 10.0 by urpmi from Cooker, and it took about 2 hours. You can use Cooker, but the last install I did was from Mandrake-devel/stable folder. It worked great. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:11, Derek Jennings wrote: Maybe on dial up, I have upgraded two systems from 9.2 to 10.0 by urpmi from Cooker, and it took about 2 hours. I took that long on a P2, 256M ram box (from 10.0beta2 to CE) using CD-roms, You really have bandwidth;) The P4 work box with 9.2 I've got would do that a lot faster but from what I've seen of 10.0 until now..well...OK (it certainly looks slick), on a separate partition maybe, but not for real work, noway. Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 online rpm repositories
On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:22, Alexandre Aractingi wrote: Le jeu 18/03/2004 à 18:16, H.J.Bathoorn a écrit : If you insist on updating via the web yesbut be in for a very very veery long (think days) install session. Downloading and burning the .iso's is the better option. Thanks for your answer. Actually I already have the 3 iso's, but I was referring to all the other apps, contribs for example. Any (stable - frozen?) repository for them? Thanks, Yes, take a look at easy urpmi or the plf site or...if you're a club member download the iso's. 10.0 isn't mentioned as is , it's the current (i.e. cooker) repository still. Bear in mind though that neither cooker or 10.0 (or Community Edition, or whatever) is stable enough to be a 100% trustworthy production environment. Stable is a very relative descriptionfrozen says it all;) Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community available to club members...
The last time I checked, the silver membership was $120 USD per year. Ramin wrote: I wonder if you meant to buy the boxed versions while you were a club member? So you really wanted to help Mandrake, right? Otherwise you could just go either way but not both? SO i dont understand the point of the complaint when it was your decision to support Mandrake. I also decided to support Mandrake so i became a club member but did not want to over-support them by buying the boxed versions! Overall being a club member has advantages over buying the boxed version in particular if you have broad band internet connection. This way you can better keep your system up-to-date in particular nowadays that very often a newer version of some application appears! Besides with a yearly silver membership, you almost gain three consecutive versions of Mandrake for $60 which is just a bit more than the price of the powerpack version. If you buy two powerpack boxes each year , you will pay about $110 each year! So being a club member is very economical. Regards, Ramin On March 5, 2004 06:07 am, Walt Frampus wrote: On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 04:07, Derek Jennings wrote: If Club members have absolutlely no privileges, not available to non members then they would be whining instead of you. Not surprisingly MandrakeSoft want to please the people who actually pay something. Let's see, I purchased MY copies of mandrake since 1999. I have every version BTW, since then. I guess beta testing and reporting bugs means nothing. I don't see the point in a 'club' anyway, I am not going to pay for something twice. I will either wait for the boxed set or move on to another distro, which is what linux is all about, freedom of choice. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community available to club members...
On March 17, 2004 04:01 am, Tim wrote: The last time I checked, the silver membership was $120 USD per year. Ramin wrote: blockquote type=cite cite=[EMAIL PROTECTED] pre wrap= I wonder if you meant to buy the boxed versions while you were a club member? So you really wanted to help Mandrake, right? Otherwise you could just go either way but not both? SO i donacute;t understand the point of the complaint when it was your decision to support Mandrake. I also decided to support Mandrake so i became a club member but did not want to over-support them by buying the boxed versions! Overall being a club member has advantages over buying the boxed version in particular if you have broad band internet connection. This way you can better keep your system up-to-date in particular nowadays that very often a newer version of some application appears! Besides with a yearly silver membership, you almost gain three consecutive versions of Mandrake for $60 which is just a bit more than the price of the powerpack version. If you buy two powerpack boxes each year , you will pay about $110 each year! So being a club member is very economical. Regards, Ramin Sorry, my typo mistake! You are right: $120/year. When i purchased my silver membership for one year, i calculated that i have 9.2 available right now, and before my membership expires, i can have two more versions of Mandrake. That makes it 3 versions of Mandrake for $120. Though now i am not that willing to update to 10, as i have spent some time and have downloaded a lot of packages and i will have to do things from first if i decide to install 10! Besides i am not quite sure all packages that i want, are available now for 10. But a better advantage of club membership to buying a box, is perhaps constant access to up-to-date ready-made packages through club download sites. Even if one wants to compile an application from the source, as i did recently with Gimp 2.0pre4, i could easily find all necessary libraries to compile Gimp on my machine without any error. Regards, Ramin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] 10.0 Community-Download hdlists question;
Hello all, I'd like some comments here: I'm a silver Mdk club member so I downloaded CD4-5 using bittorrent but I prefer using rsync on a mirror on my previos (rc1) iso's. I have this gut feeling that there will be no mention of CD4 and 5 on CD1 on the download CD's meaning I'd have to add them later as a source. Better still would be to get the right HD lists from the powerpack CD's and put those in the .iso. Until now I can only find those CD's as .torrents on club but I don't want to download the whole shebang again. So here's the questions: 1)Are there other sources (yet) for those hdlists then those .torrent files? 2)Does the powerpack CD1 indeed have the hdlists for 4 and 5? 3)Do the hdlists for 1-3 differ (i.e. the RPMS available) between the powerpack and download edition? 4)Or is there a way to get bittorrent to only get the /base directory from CD1? Thanks a lot, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community-Download hdlists question;
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On March 16, 2004 01:54 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Hello all, I'd like some comments here: I'm a silver Mdk club member so I downloaded CD4-5 using bittorrent but I prefer using rsync on a mirror on my previous (rc1) iso's. Do that, then start the Club torrent. Stop the torrent after it sets the directory and file structure for the ISOs. Move the synced disks to that directory overwriting the empty ISOs that are there, then restart the torrent. It will check the disks, download any not present while uploading the ones already there. BTW the average wrote difference that I've seen using rsync this way has been about 350 KB. Not many bites compared to a full download, is it? I have this gut feeling that there will be no mention of CD4 and 5 on CD1 on the download CD's meaning I'd have to add them later as a source. You're probably right but since I cheat try what I posted above. It should work, I almost always copy ISOs to a torrent directory and start it uploading since I have a complete mirror locally, including the download ISOs. Better still would be to get the right HD lists from the powerpack CD's and put those in the .iso. Since that is probably almost the extent of the differences between the two you still save time and bandwidth, plus learn something HarM. Which is the whole point anyway, isn't it? g Until now I can only find those CD's as .torrents on club but I don't want to download the whole shebang again. See above. So here's the questions: 1)Are there other sources (yet) for those hdlists then those .torrent files? 2)Does the powerpack CD1 indeed have the hdlists for 4 and 5? 3)Do the hdlists for 1-3 differ (i.e. the RPMS available) between the powerpack and download edition? Since it's still based on the Community Edition release at present things will change again when Final is released in about 8 weeks HarM. Once you have the ISOs you'll probably be able to do it all over again. 4)Or is there a way to get bittorrent to only get the /base directory from CD1? Browse to a server with a cooker mirror. The hdlists and all the rest of the contents of the /base directory are there. Won't help though, you're looking for disks 4 and 5, they ain't there. I just looked at my local mirror. The Power Pack CompssUser file is there though. Thanks a lot, HarM Bit Torrent seems to download one disk at a time by default anyway HarM. If my suspicion is correct and it uses a form of rsync for it's checking phase you should still save bandwidth by using the suggestions I posted above. I'd have to know a lot more about BT before I could say with confidence, but it seems likely from observations of torrents for the last 5 or 6 releases through Cooker. Let me know whether I've steered you wrong? Warm regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User #244963 at http://counter.li.org senility, n.: The state of mind of elderly persons with whom one happens to disagree. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAVz11ZqvqlrLPr5YRAqrkAKCMJPIveSyAlDATXJT8Yj8PzCfJ9gCcD5dz 8bErWdp/iMKtAJiySekPi1U= =Fwbh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community-Download hdlists question;
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 18:46, Charlie M. wrote: Bit Torrent seems to download one disk at a time by default anyway HarM. If my suspicion is correct and it uses a form of rsync for it's checking phase you should still save bandwidth by using the suggestions I posted above. I'd have to know a lot more about BT before I could say with confidence, but it seems likely from observations of torrents for the last 5 or 6 releases through Cooker. Let me know whether I've steered you wrong? Alas, I won't this time as I've only got about 500Mb left for this month's quota (Up and Down counts here) which I don't want to overdraw like I did last month.I'm sure my ISP's going to say something about that, if I do(FUP):-p I tried downloading partially (cancelling the bt download) but I can't get the partial iso's to mount with or without the -f flag. I was hoping to get the hdlists that way. Your way looks very nice and I'm sure it'll work...hadn't thought of bt checking first. It actually isn't very transparent when and how it does that, is it? Good luck and thanks for your thoughts, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 sound problems
Scott Mazur wrote: On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:11:51 -0600, Marc wrote On Tuesday 09 March 2004 01:48 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Marc wrote: I am using the ?VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] and my sound is very choppy. I had the same problem with 9.2 and 9.1. Does anyone know how to fix this ? Have you tried acpi=no in the lilo boot? Note, acpi=off is NOT the same as acpi=no. Scott Just as a matter of interest why would acpi=no or for that matter, any acpi= command affect the sound from VT8233 onboard sound chip ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community available to club members...
On Tuesday 09 March 2004 04:02 pm, Patrick Dempster wrote: On Friday 05 March 2004 16:50, Tom Brinkman wrote: Search the archives for this list or expert. Many includin myself have explained how to limit upload bandwidth. Hint: you need to reserve some of your upload width, in order to download at full speed. Would someone please post the optimum (for each type of connection e.g 1M/512K 512K/256K 512K/128k etc.) download.py files for each type of connection to the wiki or even those with a good balance. Thanks, P http://www.dslreports.com/stest keep trying till you find a test server that's not busy. The test results give your up and download speeds in both kbps and KB/s. Don't use your ISP's speed test as those will most likely be misleading higher than actual. Use 1/2 the upload _KB/s_ rate for bittorrent (or any p2p). As a starting point. All broadband connections vary in speed and consistency. So you'll need to test your connection, and adjust based on your experience usin it. Cable users should be aware that as more people are connected on the loop they're on, both up and download rates might (probly will) decrease. For DSL, you're the only user on your loop to the telco's DSLAM, so your rates should stay fairly consistent. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Proud to be an American Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 sound problems
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:44:27 +, John Richard Smith wrote Just as a matter of interest why would acpi=no or for that matter, any acpi= command affect the sound from VT8233 onboard sound chip ? I have no idea what so ever. I do know that prior to this, the audio playback would continually repeat segments making the whole sample sound like a stadium echo. I can only speculate that acpi had some effect on how the audio card buffers are managed/interupted. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community available to club members...
I wonder if you meant to buy the boxed versions while you were a club member? So you really wanted to help Mandrake, right? Otherwise you could just go either way but not both? SO i don´t understand the point of the complaint when it was your decision to support Mandrake. I also decided to support Mandrake so i became a club member but did not want to over-support them by buying the boxed versions! Overall being a club member has advantages over buying the boxed version in particular if you have broad band internet connection. This way you can better keep your system up-to-date in particular nowadays that very often a newer version of some application appears! Besides with a yearly silver membership, you almost gain three consecutive versions of Mandrake for $60 which is just a bit more than the price of the powerpack version. If you buy two powerpack boxes each year , you will pay about $110 each year! So being a club member is very economical. Regards, Ramin On March 5, 2004 06:07 am, Walt Frampus wrote: On Fri, 2004-03-05 at 04:07, Derek Jennings wrote: If Club members have absolutlely no privileges, not available to non members then they would be whining instead of you. Not surprisingly MandrakeSoft want to please the people who actually pay something. Let's see, I purchased MY copies of mandrake since 1999. I have every version BTW, since then. I guess beta testing and reporting bugs means nothing. I don't see the point in a 'club' anyway, I am not going to pay for something twice. I will either wait for the boxed set or move on to another distro, which is what linux is all about, freedom of choice. Walt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 10.0 sound problems
I am using the VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] and my sound is very choppy. I had the same problem with 9.2 and 9.1. Does anyone know how to fix this ? TIA Marc KM5KW -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and windows free computer using Mandrake Linux 10.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 sound problems
Marc wrote: I am using the ?VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] and my sound is very choppy. I had the same problem with 9.2 and 9.1. Does anyone know how to fix this ? TIA Marc KM5KW This is your onboard sound chip , so what did you do when you solved the problem in M9.1+M9.2 ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 sound problems
On Tuesday 09 March 2004 01:48 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Marc wrote: I am using the ?VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] and my sound is very choppy. I had the same problem with 9.2 and 9.1. Does anyone know how to fix this ? TIA Marc KM5KW This is your onboard sound chip , so what did you do when you solved the problem in M9.1+M9.2 ? John Sorry for the misunderstanding. In 9.X I just did without sound But after over a year without sound I think it might be time to find a way to fix it or else get a sound blaster card. I have tried the alternate driver but that just changed the problem to having no sound at all. -- Composed on a 100% Microsoft and windows free computer using Mandrake Linux 10.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 sound problems
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:11:51 -0600, Marc wrote On Tuesday 09 March 2004 01:48 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Marc wrote: I am using the ?VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] and my sound is very choppy. I had the same problem with 9.2 and 9.1. Does anyone know how to fix this ? Have you tried acpi=no in the lilo boot? Note, acpi=off is NOT the same as acpi=no. Scott -- Nothing goes to waste when Little Fish are near! (http://www.littlefish.ca) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community available to club members...
On Friday 05 March 2004 16:50, Tom Brinkman wrote: Search the archives for this list or expert. Many includin myself have explained how to limit upload bandwidth. Hint: you need to reserve some of your upload width, in order to download at full speed. Would someone please post the optimum (for each type of connection e.g 1M/512K 512K/256K 512K/128k etc.) download.py files for each type of connection to the wiki or even those with a good balance. Thanks, P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
