Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:46:19 -0600 On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:27 pm, Mike Chalmers wrote: From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main / , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what version? If not what does it use? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ It uses xorgx11 I think it is called. It is basically xfree86 but a branch that uses the original GNU license. XFree86 changed their license and made it a bit of a problem as far as free and open source folks are concerned. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com On the ATI website they have drivers for X.org. The problem is they are for the Xorg 6.8 and Mandrake 10.1 uses Xorg 6.7. Has Mandrake updated to Xorg 6.8 yet? If not are they planning to? From, Mike Chalmers _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 27 Jan 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: Derek, I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Yes - Software Installer is a gui front-end for urpmi Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. Urpmq and urpmf are part of urpmi. Don't worry about that. To understand better what's happening, go to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi which describes the command-line possibilities and what they do. You can easily add and remove software with the gui (which is in Mandrake Control Center) but the command line gives you a lot more possibilities. HTH Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 (http://counter.li.org/) Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB+Lg0kFAvMr/nNX8RAjlsAJ4zX0nEz7yzIVOWCTdouRlR4tQVhQCfU2cy s7QvYN/aNT+renDzJrCeBfc= =0MKh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Yes Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. Mike Chalmers In Linux all system commands are only available to the system administrator (root user). We call this 'security'. A word that will be unfamiliar to anyone coming from a Windows environment ;-) When you use the graphical software installer it will prompt you for the root password so it can invoke urpmi on your behalf. When using urpmi on the command line you must become root user first with the command 'su' (SuperUser). derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:20:13 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Yes Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. Mike Chalmers In Linux all system commands are only available to the system administrator (root user). We call this 'security'. A word that will be unfamiliar to anyone coming from a Windows environment ;-) When you use the graphical software installer it will prompt you for the root password so it can invoke urpmi on your behalf. When using urpmi on the command line you must become root user first with the command 'su' (SuperUser). derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what version? If not what does it use? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:27 pm, Mike Chalmers wrote: From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 + On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote: Thank you both. I went to the web site ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main / , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's and I get this message- Some package requested cannot be installed: kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 1.9]) do you agree ? I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I do not know what to do? From, Mike Chalmers This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages. This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very likely demand other packages ad infinitum. So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu. You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what version? If not what does it use? From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ It uses xorgx11 I think it is called. It is basically xfree86 but a branch that uses the original GNU license. XFree86 changed their license and made it a bit of a problem as far as free and open source folks are concerned. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
(I cleaned up the post to make it easier to read. From, Mike) To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a reply on that. Thanks, Mike Chalmers ***The post about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on this. _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:48, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. SNIP Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a reply on that. Thanks, Mike Chalmers ***The post about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on this. I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 kernel. Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi' which is a little graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better alternative) If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 10.1 install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD. Everything is then taken care of for you. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 15:32, Derek Jennings wrote: I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 kernel. Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi' which is a little graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better alternative) If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 10.1 install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD. Everything is then taken care of for you. Not always. I had problems as lilo failed to point to the right kernels on two updates, even though 2.4 and 2.6 kernels were present in lilo.conf I got kernel panics from both.. It appears that initrd.img and vmlinuz were not accurately updated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:32:28 + On Wednesday 26 January 2005 03:48, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. SNIP Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update to the 2.6.8 kernel? I can upgrade to 10.1 by reading the wiki how to, so I do not need a reply on that. Thanks, Mike Chalmers ***The post about installing only the kernel does not relate to any of this. It was something I was wondering at the same time I was working on this. I had already given instructions on how to install the Mandrake 2.6.8 kernel. Just click on the link above using konqueror, find the kernel you want to install and click on it. That will invoke 'gurpmi' which is a little graphical application which will use urpmi to download and install it for you. (I am not sure, but this kernel may say it needs to install another package called 'udev', in which case upgrading to 10.1 may be a better alternative) If you wanted to upgrade to 10.1 the easiest way is to simply obtain the 10.1 install CDs and choose the 'upgrade' option when you boot from the CD. Everything is then taken care of for you. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on? Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer? Thnks. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:14:42 + On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compil ing-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Ok, This is where I am at. If I patched the kernel to 2.6.10 there could be a problem because I am using Mandrake and that kernel is not made to work with Mandrake. Meaning that the newest kernel I can use is the 2.6.8 kernel that is made to be compatible with Mandrake. There are two ways I want to try: 1.) The best thing to do if I want to use the 2.6.8 kernel would be to urpmi it. Right? I don't know how to work urpmi yet so that is a problem. I think it would not be to challenging to do. 2.) I could also upgrade to 10.1 through urpmi which would give me the 2.6.8 kernel and the everything else that is in Mandrake 10.1. I do not know how to use urpmi though. So will someone give me specific instructions on how to update
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compil ing-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/media/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Monday 24 January 2005 05:14, Derek Jennings wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 05:32, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/comp il ing-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers To answer this question and the similar question from Bill Mudry :- For a given Mandrake release MandrakeSoft will support a specific kernel. For Mandrake 10.0 that is 2.6.3 , and for 10.1 it is 2.6.8.1 So you will not find any updates for other kernels on the update servers. (BTW: New kernels do not appear in the MandrakeUpdate GUI. You will only see them in the MandrakeInstall GUI when you filter on 'kernel') I am not saying that installing a 2.6.8.1 kernel in a Mandrake 10.0 system will not work. I am simply saying it *may* not work because of differences between a 10.0 and a 10.1 system. In the same way, there is nothing stopping you installing a 2.6.10 kernel from Cooker. If it does not work there is no point complaining to anyone. Similarly there is nothing stopping you compiling and installing your own kernel from kernel.org. Just do not be surprised if your system behaves differently. (For example Mandrake includes some drivers not in the standard kernel) To install a kernel from an ftp mirror, simply navigate to the mirror using konqueror and click on the kernel you wish to install. For example, go here for Cooker :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/med ia/main and for a 2.6.8.1 kernel try :- ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main The new kernel will become the default, but your existing kernel can still be accessed through your Lilo menu at boot time. If the new kernel does not work simply remove it again. What you should **not do** is to declare Cooker to be a urpmi source. Nor should you declare a 10.1 urpmi source if you are using 10.0. If you do declare a Cooker urpmi source, then every time you install software your system will by definition find the newest version on the Cooker mirror and will try to install it as well as all its dependencies. In the best case you will end up installing many hundreds of MB of dependencies and your computer will end up as a 'cooker' system. In the worst case you could get stuck in 'circular dependencies' and get totally confused. It is possible to upgrade from one Mandrake version to another simply by changing urpmi sources (as described in the wiki), but it is probably not the sort of thing a new user should try since there are always a few packages that get stuck in circular dependency. I will leave the issue with ATI Radeon for others to answer since I do not have an ATI card, but are you aware you need to install the proprietary ATI drivers? None of the kernels will contain them by default since they are not OpenSource. derek IMHO kernel upgrade will not fix your problem. However, their possibility to upgrade to next kernel version with no pain at all. DANGER YOU CAN KILL YOUR SYSTEM BY FOLLOWING MY INSTRACTIONS. READ AND PRINT INSTRACTION BEFORE ACTUALLY USING IT. IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ASK UBEFORE/U USING. 1.Download from ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/devel/10.1/i586/Mandrake/RPMS; file named kernel-2.6.8.1.20mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm. 2.Then go to command line by pressing alt+ctrl+f1. 3. Login as root 4. type: cd /place_you_saved_the_file_to. 5. type: urpmi kernel-2.6.8.1.20mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm 6. type: cd /etc/ 7. type: vi lilo.conf (you may need to read man for lilo.conf) 8. check if everithing is ok in the lilo.conf file (it should be) 9. quit vi by pressing esc and then type :q 10 type: lilo 11. reboot by pressing ctrl+alt+del or typing reboot. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it.
[newbie] need help patching kernel
I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 2.6.10. I downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch. Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Sunday 23 January 2005 18:39, Mike Chalmers wrote: I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 2.6.10. I downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch. Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:57:48 -0500 On Sunday 23 January 2005 18:39, Mike Chalmers wrote: I currently have kernel 2.6.3-7mdk installed. I want to update to 2.6.10. I downloaded the file patch-2.6.10.bz2 from kernel.org. I also installed patch-2.5.9-2mdk.i586.rpm. I don't know how to install the 2.6.10 patch. Will someone tell me the command to use to update the kernel to 2.6.10. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:19:03 + On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com So you are saying that there is not a Mandrake 2.6.10 kernel yet? I have an ATI 9800 video card and it is very very slow with the fglrx driver installed. I thought patching the kernel might could fix this slow problem. From, Mike Chalmers _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
At 08:19 PM 1/23/2005, you wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. Updating my kernel on 10.0 is just where I am and I need advice. I cannot come up with any kernels using urpmq or urpmf even at 2.6.8 and up. This is after updating urpmi successfully to the point this week that I was able to install a huge slew of progams successfully with urpmi with practically no dependency problems. This also included over 800 meg of updates :-). Am I doing something wrong? Please help me know how I can take the easiest and fastest way to upgrade the kernel to the present stable one. I will be pleased to be totally up to date for once but I look to when this is successfully done so I can go on to other things I wish to do. Just a thought. Is there a way to update urpmi only for the kernel?? With thanks. I will try to follow the rest of this thread also. Bill Mudry Mississauga, Ontario derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:19:03 + On Monday 24 January 2005 01:04, Mike Chalmers wrote: SNIP Unless you like to go through the pain you will be better using urpmi to install kernel. Try to find kernel rpm on rpm repository and urpmi it. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com --- To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. When you say pain do you mean running multiple commands to install the patch? If so, I would like to do it that way. I do not know much about the urpmi yet and I only want to patch the kernel? So if you or someone else will tell me how to patch it using commands that would be great? From, Mike Chalmers There are instruction on compiling new kernels in the manual http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Command-Line.html/compiling-kernel-chapter.html But be aware Mandrake apply lots of patches to the standard kernel.org kernel and if you use a standard kernel you might find bits of your system may not work quite the same. Is there a particular reason you want 2.6.10 or is it just for fun? BTW: The latest Mandrake kernel for 10.1 is 2.6.8.1-12mdk and 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk is on the development 'cooker' mirrors. Installing 'Cooker' packages is not advised on a production system as they can have nasty bugs and may require an awful lot of dependencies. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Derek, I have a Radeon 9800. The driver installs correctly but all the programs go very very slow. I think that upgrading to the latest kernel or one not far behind it may fix the problem. If I can't use the 2.6.10.1-1-1mdk because it is still in the cooker then will you tell me how to upgrade to the 2.6.8.1-12mdk? Thks. From, Mike Chalmers _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
- Original Message - From: Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:30:31 + Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ Regards. --Angus Margot replied: I had the same problem - don't know what causes it, but the solution for me was to set the connection *not* to start at boot - once booted, open a terminal as root and do ifup eth0 (without the quotes) and everything works from then on. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* * Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Take care. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 08 Jan 2005 23:09, Derek Jennings wrote: hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. Mine says order hosts,bind multi on This is the default as set up by Mdk 10.0 - I haven't touched it. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4PdVkFAvMr/nNX8RAn2zAKCDI6typ7Syb84id9aYUkOaPUHgDgCeIfes O9QJAJIXHJ0fUibTw4HHwk4= =MTHm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4QTzkFAvMr/nNX8RAgmgAJ9RHtsSTT2aj7JQOwWyvHe0ArvpxQCeK5Gq BOUcNqs3eg/BWIWfg8sECjg= =nF6O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
Check out this excellent tutie on the subject: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/network-linux.htm It put the see in my TCP/IP. Brett --- Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com = So anyway, check this out: http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/farscape/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
Anne Wilson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB4QTzkFAvMr/nNX8RAgmgAJ9RHtsSTT2aj7JQOwWyvHe0ArvpxQCeK5Gq BOUcNqs3eg/BWIWfg8sECjg= =nF6O -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Even I have the same prob...I have configured the eth0 conn *not* to start at boot but it *does* start when the x system is loaded! Is this normal or is there any solution to this??? ps - I am using mandrake 10.1. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:18 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? I seem to have the same problem. I can either boot into linux twice and the network comes up or I can use the ifup wlan0 command to get it working. Where do I change the order in which things load? -- Regards Trevor Rhodes === Powered by Linux-Mandrake 10.1 Registered Linux user # 290542 at http://counter.li.org Registered Machine #'s 186951 = Mandrake Club Silver Member Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === 23:01:18 up 11 days, 13:07, 1 user, load average: 0.32, 0.48, 0.36 Never mud wrestle with a pig.. you get dirty and the pig enjoys it! Never try to teach a pig to dance. You waste your time and annoy the pig. Theoretically pigs can fly if propelled with enough force. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Sunday 09 January 2005 04:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 08 Jan 2005 23:09, Derek Jennings wrote: hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. Mine says order hosts,bind multi on This is the default as set up by Mdk 10.0 - I haven't touched it. Anne you might not be able to see the file, depending on some things like file permission and msec level, try the command in a text console as root cat /etc/hosts.conf -- linux counter #167806 (http://counter.li.org/) website=http://ed-tharp.kicks-ass.org; Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:18:27 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 Jan 2005 08:21, Angus Auld wrote: Thanks Margot. :-)) I set the adsl not to start at boot and then rebooted. Bootup went fine, eth0 came up OK, and, ppp0 came up OK too. :-/ What's that about? When my x-session was fully loaded I also had my internet connection open on ppp0! This is kind of strangebut, it's working fine. It's really late, and I need to turn in. Tomorrow is another day for learning. Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? Anne Anne, I think you are on to something there. The *order* of these devices coming up seems to be what was giving me the trouble. Since ppp0 is just a *software* device that uses eth0 to do it's thing, eth0 has to come up first, before ppp0. That seems to make sense to me. [8-} I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/ I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 resides? I can hardly wait to try to get my wireless working when my router arrives. ;-) Best regards to you Anne.you're a gem. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
Angus Auld wrote: ---[ SNIP ] I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/ I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 resides? I can hardly wait to try to get my wireless working when my router arrives. ;-) Best regards to you Anne.you're a gem. --Angus If you are going to hook the router to the ADSL modem, then you are going to have to redo things when you install it. The router will handle the PPPoE connection, and your Linux box will be a normal DHCP ethernet connection to the router. You have to let the router handle the PPPoE if you want to share the connection with other computers, unless you want to let the Linux box be your firewall. While this can be done one ethernet connection, I am not sure if your router would handle that. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.configfiles
Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shot in the dark - maybe things were loading in the wrong order? Anne Anne, I think you are on to something there. The *order* of these devices coming up seems to be what was giving me the trouble. Since ppp0 is just a *software* device that uses eth0 to do it's thing, eth0 has to come up first, before ppp0. That seems to make sense to me. [8-} I removed ppp0 and eth0 from my configuration, and then added the adsl ppp0 back, using MCC. Things are working OK now, except I am not able to connect to my mail server with KMail using my new account. :-/ I wonder where the config file controling the boot order of eth0 and ppp0 resides? It's in the subdir here that corresponds to your init level: /etc/rc.d In my case: /etc/rc.d/rc3.d Since i boot into init level (runlevel) 3 eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Add a line in the format HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my network) The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames. The only line that is essential in this table is 127.0.0.1 localhost If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example 192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain server downstairs-computer /etc/resolv.conf defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses from hostnames. It should look somethng like search localdomain nameserver 192.168.1.251 This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden by the DNS server. hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Add a line in the format HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my network) The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames. The only line that is essential in this table is 127.0.0.1 localhost You will also want to put your hostname in here. Something like: 127.0.0.1 yourhostname localhost The reasion for this is that some programs will try to look up your hostname, and you get a delay while it tries to find it. If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example 192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain server downstairs-computer /etc/resolv.conf defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses from hostnames. It should look somethng like search localdomain nameserver 192.168.1.251 If you are using dhcp with your ADSL, then you do not need to touch /etc/resolv.conf, unless you are running a local name server. The dhcp client will set this to the valuse supplied by the ADSL modem or router. If you are running your own name server, and using dhcp, you have to add PEERDNS=no to the /etc/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 file to stop this. (If your ADSL connection is not eth0, then edit the correct file for your interface.) For hosts.conf, I usualy use order hosts, bind. (From memory, but I think I have it right...) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
- Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:52 + On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Add a line in the format HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my network) The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames. The only line that is essential in this table is 127.0.0.1 localhost If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example 192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain server downstairs-computer /etc/resolv.conf defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses from hostnames. It should look somethng like search localdomain nameserver 192.168.1.251 This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden by the DNS server. hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. HTH derek * Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ Regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Saturday 08 January 2005 06:29 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ I seem to remember a problem I had like that when I first got DSL. If I remember I had to remove the ppp0 setup otherwise DHCP wouldn't load. -- Chris Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 20:40:49 up 11 days, 3:59, 1 user, load average: 1.57, 1.32, 1.23 Mandrake Linux 10.1 Official, kernel 2.6.8.1-12mdk * Jes wonders why so many people in here uses fooZ and foo_sleeping nicks peter Jes: Because they are sleeping? -- Seen on #Linux Live - From Virgin Radio UK The Animals - House Of The Rising Sun Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
- Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:42:45 -0600 On Saturday 08 January 2005 06:29 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ I seem to remember a problem I had like that when I first got DSL. If I remember I had to remove the ppp0 setup otherwise DHCP wouldn't load. -- Chris ** Thanks forthe reply Chris. I don't understand though.if I remove my pppoe setup, how will I be able to use my adsl? I am in a *purple haze*. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Laptop, Powered by Mandrake 10.1~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
On Saturday 08 January 2005 06:29 pm, Angus Auld wrote: Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ I seem to remember a problem I had like that when I first got DSL. If I remember I had to remove the ppp0 setup otherwise DHCP wouldn't load. I remember seeing something about this in a FAQ, and I think MCC is set up to handle it. When you are using PPPoE, you don't use DHCP for the ethernet connection. It doesn't realy get an IP at all. Instead, the PPPoE handles all that. It uses the NIC, but not using TCP/IP format, so the interface doesn't get an IP address. I will see if I can find it later, unless someone here can fill you first. (I hope - I am fighting another problem...) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files
Angus Auld wrote: - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com Subject: Re: [newbie] need help with /etc/hosts, hosts.config resolv.config files Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:09:52 + On Saturday 08 January 2005 19:24, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I wonder if some kind soul here could instruct/inform me on how I can properly config these files?? What should they contain and how should they look on my 10.1 system? I just setup ADSL broadband, and I fear I messed things up a bit. ;-) My broadband is working OK, but my local hostname is now (none), as in #gus@(none) gus. I have been searching documentation and Google, but I'm still dumb on this (and lots of other stuff too). Help would be truly appreciated. Best regards. --Angus Your Host name is set up in the file /etc/sysconfig/network Add a line in the format HOSTNAME=your_host_name.localdomain (you can pick any name for your local domain, but do not use a Fully Qualified Domain Name unless you actually own it. I just use 'localdomain' in my network) The file /etc/hosts defines a lookup table to match IP addresses to hostnames. The only line that is essential in this table is 127.0.0.1 localhost If you are using static addressing in your network then you should provide a list of IP addresses in the network with their corresponding hostnames. You can have multiple hostnames per IP address. For example 192.168.1.1 your_host_name.localdomain server downstairs-computer /etc/resolv.conf defines how your computer will try to resolve IP addresses from hostnames. It should look somethng like search localdomain nameserver 192.168.1.251 This tells it to look in the local domain first, and then if the host is not present to ask the named DNS server. You should use the IP address of your ISPs DNS server, or a DNS proxy (ADSL routers usually operate as a DNS proxy) If you are using DHCP these settings will be automatically overridden by the DNS server. hosts.config is not familiar to me. I do not have that file. HTH derek * Thank you Derek for the reply. I am really new at this network stuff. :-) I have been using dial-up for all my years of computing, and I just started using braodband now that it has finally come here to the boonies. I edited some of the mentioned files, and my hostname is once again localhost. I changed my eth0: Broadcom Corp BCM4401 100Base-T connection to use DHCP Protocol, but now when I boot my comp, booting hangs at bringing up eth0 for a long while, and finally fails trying to determine IP configuration. :-( The part that puzzles me is that ppp0 comes up OK, and my connection is working great. What gives here anyway? Doesn't ppp0 use my Broadcom nic??? I am dazed and confused. [8/ Regards. --Angus I had the same problem - don't know what causes it, but the solution for me was to set the connection *not* to start at boot - once booted, open a terminal as root and do ifup eth0 (without the quotes) and everything works from then on. -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Mozilla on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-20mdk ~~~ The flush toilet is the basis of Western civilization. -- Alan Coult ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
I sent this last night, but sympa never sent me a confirmation, so here it is again... -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: December 5, 2004 23:00 From: Ron Hunter-Duvar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On December 4, 2004 14:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? --Angus I just did a re-install recently (had to resize some partitions). You have to choose Custom partitioning (or something like that, not sure I have the exact wording). From there you create each partition, set the size and choose the type. -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) --- -- Ron ron dot hunterduvar at shaw dot ca Opinions expressed here are all mine. Rights to have the same opinions are granted under the GNU GPL :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 23:26:48 -0300 Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:10:36 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page? I think that as well as allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of filesystem. I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong. Anne Thanks Anne, I reinstalled, and just allowed the defaults to prevail. I have installed and used Mandrake through several versions now, but I still find the *expert* install option quite cryptic. :-/ Just confirms my *newbie* status. I seem to be having a problem with kded sucking up a lot of cpu cycles...upwards of 75% or so. I have disabled kded, but I wonder if I need it for anything. It may be a bug perhaps, and I haven't done any updating yet. Anybody note any similar issues with kded? Best regards. --Angus ** Yes. Update and it wil be gone. -- Johan Sch Registered linux user #333034 May this be a good day for learning Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] need help installing 10.1
Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 10.0~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page? I think that as well as allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of filesystem. I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBsifMkFAvMr/nNX8RAtQrAKCMDcBeKCGVjt8qf4MQcEPEGd1/sgCfWuQx +URJuCS+cuvzW67mUM8n/bc= =6R06 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
- Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:10:36 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page? I think that as well as allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of filesystem. I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong. Anne Thanks Anne, I reinstalled, and just allowed the defaults to prevail. I have installed and used Mandrake through several versions now, but I still find the *expert* install option quite cryptic. :-/ Just confirms my *newbie* status. I seem to be having a problem with kded sucking up a lot of cpu cycles...upwards of 75% or so. I have disabled kded, but I wonder if I need it for anything. It may be a bug perhaps, and I haven't done any updating yet. Anybody note any similar issues with kded? Best regards. --Angus Let us not look back in anger or forward in fear, but around in awareness. -- James Thurber *** ~Linux Powered by Mandrake 10.0~ *** ~Reg. Linux User #278931~ *** -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1
From: Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 23:26:48 -0300 - Original Message - From: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] need help installing 10.1 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:10:36 + -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 04 Dec 2004 21:05, Angus Auld wrote: Greetings, I just got my 10.1 cd's from Cheapbytes, and I am trying to get it installed on my Dell Inspiron. Trouble is, I can't seem to figure out how I can access the option to choose another type of filesystem other than the default ext3. Could someone here give me the lowdown on choosing to install with reisers fs??? I can get a screen where my choice is requested, but when I type in reisers, it just ignores my choice and reverts to default. Help please? Have you selected 'Expert' on the partitioning page? I think that as well as allowing you to set partition mount names you are also given the choice of filesystem. I use ext3 myself, though, so I could be wrong. Anne Thanks Anne, I reinstalled, and just allowed the defaults to prevail. I have installed and used Mandrake through several versions now, but I still find the *expert* install option quite cryptic. :-/ Just confirms my *newbie* status. I seem to be having a problem with kded sucking up a lot of cpu cycles...upwards of 75% or so. I have disabled kded, but I wonder if I need it for anything. It may be a bug perhaps, and I haven't done any updating yet. Anybody note any similar issues with kded? Best regards. --Angus I just installed 10.1 Community Ed with reiserfs without toggling to expert mode. I don't remember exactly what I did. But toggling to expert mode definitely gives you more options. It seems to be straightforward to me. J.T. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc
Are changes made by this method permenent after writing the command in the prompt as you said, or do they anly aply for this boot? Regards Vegard On Tuesday 23 November 2004 07:03 pm, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: In www.mandrakeexpert.com I got this hint to fix a problem I am experiencing. Try to pass this params while starting your pc : linux noapic nolapic I am new tp this, and was hoping someone could describe to my in detail what I am supposed to do and when? Best regards , Vegard IIRC, If you use Lilo, then when the boot selection screen start, press [esc], then a prompt will show. then you type those command. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 20:00:25 up 2:41, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 24 Nov 2004 20:54, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: Are changes made by this method permenent after writing the command in the prompt as you said, or do they anly aply for this boot? If you pass them at bootup like that they only apply to the one boot. That's useful for finding which one works for you. Once you know which one it is we'll help you put it into your lilo.conf, after which it will apply every time. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Mandrake at all levels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBpQTmkFAvMr/nNX8RAjW4AKCKC0Vj2TIlsEkloJVirobplppyFwCcDs5w WLR+WpHtYbzJjE457fqoNgE= =Kxw5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc
In www.mandrakeexpert.com I got this hint to fix a problem I am experiencing. Try to pass this params while starting your pc : linux noapic nolapic I am new tp this, and was hoping someone could describe to my in detail what I am supposed to do and when? Best regards , Vegard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help passing params while starting my pc
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 07:03 pm, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote: In www.mandrakeexpert.com I got this hint to fix a problem I am experiencing. Try to pass this params while starting your pc : linux noapic nolapic I am new tp this, and was hoping someone could describe to my in detail what I am supposed to do and when? Best regards , Vegard IIRC, If you use Lilo, then when the boot selection screen start, press [esc], then a prompt will show. then you type those command. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | http://linux2.arinet.org 20:00:25 up 2:41, Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Official) for i586 public key: https://www.arinet.org/fajar-pub.key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] need help with menu
It's the newbness in me. lol have to check everything out to see what is what, and during this process I had changed my menu from the MDK default style to KDE style. How can I get the MDK menu style back. Because of this it also had altered my taskbar and it's back to the default layout. I had it setup the way I want it and what applets I wanted in the taskbar, but I can't put those particuliar applets in because their not in the menu now. Could someone help me getting my menu back to the default MDK style? Bobby Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Need help with Samba Server
Hallo everyone , I just got Mandrake 10 and want to test it as a good alternative to Windows. However , I got the download version and don't have any Manuals or documentation for it. I want to ask 2 things : - I am struggling to configure my SAMBA server. I use the wizard and when I enter the read and write user and press next it doesn't want to continue And keeps highlighting the user names. Does anybody know what I am doing wrong? - And can anybody tell me where on the net can I find good complete Mandrake 10 documentation or manuals ? Thank you Wikus Van Dyk Correctional Services IT Zonderwater Email Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help with Samba Server
On Friday 21 May 2004 11:16, van Dyk, Wikus wrote: Hallo everyone , I just got Mandrake 10 and want to test it as a good alternative to Windows. However , I got the download version and don't have any Manuals or documentation for it. I want to ask 2 things : - I am struggling to configure my SAMBA server. I use the wizard and when I enter the read and write user and press next it doesn't want to continue And keeps highlighting the user names. Does anybody know what I am doing wrong? - And can anybody tell me where on the net can I find good complete Mandrake 10 documentation or manuals ? Thank you Wikus Van Dyk Welcome Manuals are available online at http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3 You will also find manuals for heaps of applications at /usr/share/doc on your computer. You will also fine the 'man' command incredibly useful. Open a terminal and type 'man command_name' and you get detailed instructions on the usage of that command. As for Samba the Wizard has a bug in it. If you tick the box for 'Enable public file sharing area' then the wizard will not progress past the name selection. (There is a bug report open for it) If you do not select the public area tick box, it will work OK. You might like to install the ksambaplugin package using your Software Install GUI, the KDE Control Centre (MenuSystemConfigurationConfiguredesktop) will contain a new page in NetworkSambaConfiguration This allows finer control than the Mandrake Wizard. You should also at least read the text configuration file /etc/samba/smb.conf In Linux all configuration is by text files, there is no registry (Hooray!) when you use a Wizard or a GUI it will edit this text file. The Samba default text configuration file is full of explanations and sample configurations which will be very useful to you. After making any change to samba configuration restart samba with service smb restart in a root terminal, or use the GUI in Mandrake Control CentreSystemServices to restart Samba. When using Samba you should bear in mind that if you have enabled the firewall, then Samba traffic is blocked by default, both to the interface to the Internet, and the interface to your local network. You will either have to open ports 137,138,139 to the local network, or disable the firewall. And of course no way should you allow Windows networking to get out onto the Internet. (Unless you want people looking at your files) HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help with Samba Server
On Friday 21 May 2004 12:10, Derek Jennings wrote: On Friday 21 May 2004 11:16, van Dyk, Wikus wrote: Hallo everyone , I just got Mandrake 10 and want to test it as a good alternative to Windows. However , I got the download version and don't have any Manuals or documentation for it. I want to ask 2 things : - I am struggling to configure my SAMBA server. I use the wizard and when I enter the read and write user and press next it doesn't want to continue And keeps highlighting the user names. Does anybody know what I am doing wrong? - And can anybody tell me where on the net can I find good complete Mandrake 10 documentation or manuals ? Thank you Wikus Van Dyk snip You might like to install the ksambaplugin package using your Software Install GUI, the KDE Control Centre (MenuSystemConfigurationConfiguredesktop) will contain a new page in NetworkSambaConfiguration This allows finer control than the Mandrake Wizard. snip The package I mentioned in my last post 'ksambaplugin' is not on your CDs. It can be found in an online software repository called 'contrib' Mandrake has the ability to install software from a variety of sources such as CDs and online sources. It uses a system called 'urpmi' to work out where applications should be installed from, and which packages depend on other packages. (Read the section on urpmi on the Twiki - follow my signature) To set up your computer to use 'contrib' as a software source go here, http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php Follow the instructions and take the command it gives you and copy it into a root terminal. (Copy/paste in Linux is highlight/press mouse wheel) (While you are there add a source for 'plf' and 'updates' too, then you can use your Software GUI to install updated packages and plf packages which are packages which are not legal in certain countries with bizarre laws.) There is another GUI to set up Samba called SWAT which is on your CDs, but I do not like recommending it because it deletes all the useful text in the smb.conf configuration file. derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help getting my printer to work in Mandrake 9.2
On Friday 07 May 2004 10:40, John Henderson wrote: Can anyone assist me in getting my printer (HP OfficeJet 4100) working? Mandrake Control Center sees the printer and autoconfigures, and even does a test print, but I can't print from any applications. Any ideas what I can check or tweak to get this working. PLEASE HELP, not being able to print means I have to use Windoze, something I'm not keen on doing, but I've got to get the job done. Kind regards, and thanks in advance. John H. Have you done all the software updates from the update mirrors for 9.2? derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Need help getting my printer to work in Mandrake 9.2
Can anyone assist me in getting my printer (HP OfficeJet 4100) working? Mandrake Control Center sees the printer and autoconfigures, and even does a test print, but I can't print from any applications. Any ideas what I can check or tweak to get this working. PLEASE HELP, not being able to print means I have to use Windoze, something I'm not keen on doing, but I've got to get the job done. Kind regards, and thanks in advance. John H. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help getting my printer to work in Mandrake 9.2
On Friday 07 May 2004 04:40 am, John Henderson wrote: Can anyone assist me in getting my printer (HP OfficeJet 4100) working? Mandrake Control Center sees the printer and autoconfigures, and even does a test print, but I can't print from any applications. Any ideas what I can check or tweak to get this working. PLEASE HELP, not being able to print means I have to use Windoze, something I'm not keen on doing, but I've got to get the job done. Kind regards, and thanks in advance. John H. Need more info, are you on a network? do you have firewall running, maybe you need to open port 631. You do not say which iteration of ML you have, is it 10.0 or 9.2? Lastly you might try doing an upgrade with disk one in and at the end check the printer config or reconfig it and then reboot to see if it now works, just some thoughts. HTH -- Dennis M. Linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Need help installing SATA drive!!!(Please help)
On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 02:46, DC A wrote: Yes I tried 10 but it's taking a long time to load. I donno why thorugh. (I tried to auto allocate 20GB for linux and it's taking more than an hour and still it's formatting) So I donno whether I'll be able to linux on this system. Is there any other linux that support single SATA or any other alternative? Thanks for reply. --AR I'm using Mandrake 9.2 on a SATA drive, but I've never tried booting from it. I also have a small drive that I have as a boot drive, and from windows. I've just downloaded Mandrake 10 and was impressed with the speed it did download - after I'd changed the upload rate. 2 GB in about 22 hours. Finally, you'll probably get more responses if you don't upset everyone - people here tend to get upset if you ignore the long-standing convention by top-posting. Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need help installing SATA drive!!!(Please help)
Hi! It's me again. I've got a problem and I'm really desperate. I've MSI K6T mobo with athlon 64 3400+ processor. I've installed Maxtor's Diamond plus 9 hard drive on WinXP. When I checked in Computer properties it says WinXp Promise SATA 378 IDE controller. And the hard drive works fine on WinXp. I even created three NTFS partition with no linux partition. Now when I try to install Mandrake 9.2 it recognizes my controller as Promise technology PDC20376 Fast TRak 378 controller and then it asks me whether i wanna use another device as it won't install on it. So when I choose another device by choosing the same controller it gives an error. I donno what to do. Does anyone know what did I do wrong or what am I supposed to do? Please help. ---AR NOte: I've posted message couple of times. Sorry about that _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need help installing SATA drive!!!(Please help)
On Friday 05 March 2004 11:44 am, DC A wrote: Hi! It's me again. I've got a problem and I'm really desperate. I've MSI K6T mobo with athlon 64 3400+ processor. I've installed Maxtor's Diamond plus 9 hard drive on WinXP. When I checked in Computer properties it says WinXp Promise SATA 378 IDE controller. And the hard drive works fine on WinXp. I even created three NTFS partition with no linux partition. Now when I try to install Mandrake 9.2 it recognizes my controller as Promise technology PDC20376 Fast TRak 378 controller and then it asks me whether i wanna use another device as it won't install on it. So when I choose another device by choosing the same controller it gives an error. I donno what to do. Does anyone know what did I do wrong or what am I supposed to do? Obviously, 9.2 doesn't support that controller. Have you tried 10.0 yet? -- /g Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] need help installing driver for wireless card, Dlink DWL 520 chipset: rtl8180
Hello, everyone I am new to this list and also a newbie for linux. I want to get my wireless card working in linux. It is Dlink DWL 520 with reaktek rtl8180 chipset. Somewhat expert users please help me :) I am writing what I have done till now: I found the driver from realtek site http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=rtl8180 It contains precompiled driver rtl8180_24x.o for redhat 9, kernel 2.4.20 and also source code and script files to bring the interface up and down. I have Mandrake 9.2 so thought I have to compile it myself. I downloaded kernel source rpm, installed it. Then did make, to compile the driver I don't know if it worked but it showed 2 or 3 warnings and generated the output rtl8180.o then I did makeinstall now when I run the script './wlanup infra' it shows following, [EMAIL PROTECTED] rtl8180_1.5]# ./wlanup infra insmod: a module named rtl8180_24x already exists infra ./wlanup: line 23: /sbin/iwpriv: No such file or directory ./wlanup: line 24: /sbin/iwpriv: No such file or directory ./wlanup: line 52: /sbin/iwpriv: No such file or directory ./wlanup: line 53: /sbin/iwpriv: No such file or directory ./wlanup: line 64: /sbin/iwpriv: No such file or directory ./wlanup: line 72: /sbin/iwpriv: No such file or directory I am writing commands on these lines in wlanup script for reference 23 /sbin/iwpriv wlan0 wlan_para networktype=infra 24 /sbin/iwpriv wlan0 wlan_para ssid2scan=iit 52 /sbin/iwpriv wlan0 wlan_para encmode=off 53 /sbin/iwpriv wlan0 wlan_para wepmode=off 64 /sbin/iwpriv wlan0 msglevel 0 72 /sbin/iwpriv wlan0 enable Thank you. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] need help installing driver for wireless card, Dlink DWL 520 chipset: rtl8180
On Thursday 04 March 2004 10:28, jimmy wrote: ./wlanup: line 72: /sbin/iwpriv: No such file or directory You need to install iwpriv!;) BTW you don't need to add the option infra as it's already specified in the wlanup script. You might want to change that to ad-hoc if there's no access point available but you want to connect to another box that is also configured ad-hoc. Look for the package with the software installer using iwpriv as a search in files and descriptions. I'm not to sure any more in which package it was included but I suspect wireless-tools. Frankly I tried the same procedure for a RTL8180ver2 card but it wouldn't work properly on my system . Even building my module from source and using that instead of the RH one didn't working nicely, so YMMV. Using the linuxant driver-wrapper was a much better/easier option. There's more on the twiki (the first place to look;))down below - look for Hardware, network devices Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User #197998 FSF Associate Member #901 ICQ #146191606 Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] need help adding external modem to mandrake 8
Greetings. I guess it should be obvious how to do this, but I'm not finding the right place to read my Mandrake 8 box has a built-in Winmodem (which Mandrake detects but cannot configure), and rather than mess with configuring a winmodem, I'd rather just add an external modem to the available serial port. What do I need to do in order to set up the modem, get the system to recognize it, etc.? (My ultimate goal, once the modem is found, is to configure Hylafax to work with it to create a fax server.) I'm sure this is documented somewhere, but I'm at a loss as to where to begin. Any and all help appreciated. Thanks. Kenn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need help upgrading from Mandrake 9.0
Hi All, I recently got broadband installed and I wanted to update my Mandrake 9.0 installation to the very latest of... well... pretty much everything - Including KDE, Open Office, etc. My problem is that I don't fully understand the use of urpmi yet. I did the following, Set up some mirrors and hdlist locations Logged out of KDE (I understand that you can't / shouldn't update KDE within KDE) Did ctrl-alt-f1 from the login prompt for a terminal su to root Ran init 1 Did urpmi --auto-select and left it to it (after confirming to get the packages) Problem is it didn't actually DO anything to my sytem. I think what I told it to do was download all the packages and nothing else. I therefore have two requests, 1) Can someone please provide me with mirrors I may need to update properly from 9.0 to 9.2. 2) Give me correct urpmi command. Thanks very much, Stevie :) -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need help upgrading from Mandrake 9.0
On Monday 16 Feb 2004 10:19 am, Sweeney, Stephen wrote: Hi All, I recently got broadband installed and I wanted to update my Mandrake 9.0 installation to the very latest of... well... pretty much everything - Including KDE, Open Office, etc. My problem is that I don't fully understand the use of urpmi yet. I did the following, Set up some mirrors and hdlist locations Logged out of KDE (I understand that you can't / shouldn't update KDE within KDE) Did ctrl-alt-f1 from the login prompt for a terminal su to root Ran init 1 Did urpmi --auto-select and left it to it (after confirming to get the packages) Problem is it didn't actually DO anything to my sytem. I think what I told it to do was download all the packages and nothing else. I therefore have two requests, 1) Can someone please provide me with mirrors I may need to update properly from 9.0 to 9.2. 2) Give me correct urpmi command. Thanks very much, Stevie :) There is a guide for using urpmi to do an upgrade in the Twiki at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UrpmiUpgrade You do not say what urpmi sources you set up, but you need a minimum of 'main' and 'updates' sources, but you might as well add 'contrib' and 'plf' at the same time while you are at it. And of course you must delete **all** your 9.0 sources. Instead of urpmi --auto-select do urpmi urpmi first. The urpmi package is different between 9.0 and 9.2 so do that one first. It will install about 70 other packages at the same time. Then for the remaining packages use urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm You need the --no-verify-rpm because the way RPM signatures is checked changes between 9.0 and 9.2 and you will not have the signatures on your keyring yet. When install is complete if you refresh the urpmi sources, then the signatures will get imported automatically. HTH derek -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] need help with greek!
Am I the only one that has this problem? don't know what to do 08 2003 00:15, / manolis : Hi guys! After my installation of mandrake 9.1 I have one little problem. I use the greek keyboard but I cannot enter punctuation notation marks on vowels. for example I can write but if Itry to put a tone in the with the : key and then the i key, I get no character. The problem exists in all the programs. I did not had the same problem with mandrake 9.0 . Any ideas? please help. Manolis (A very newbie in the world of linux) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] need help with greek!
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:27, manolis wrote: Am I the only one that has this problem? don't know what to do Do you mean you cannot type things like and ? If so, run mcc, go to the keyboard settings and change it to US International. And pronto the keyboard accepts your : over the vowels... Paul for example I can write but if Itry to put a tone in the with the : key and then the i key, I get no character. The problem exists in all the programs. I did not had the same problem with mandrake 9.0 . Any ideas? -- Although the moon is smaller than the earth, it is farther away. http://nlpagan.net - Linux Mandrake - Ximian Evolution Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] need help with greek!
Manolis, Seems that the majority of people here don't use Greek. Is there a Linux group in your area that you can direct this towards? You might get better help with an answer there. Here is a list of LUGs in Greece: http://www.linuxhq.com/users/groups/greece.html Sorry we can't help you better. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am I the only one that has this problem? don't know what to do Στις Κυρ 08 Ιουν 2003 00:15, ο/η manolis έγραψε: Hi guys! After my installation of mandrake 9.1 I have one little problem. I use the greek keyboard but I cannot enter punctuation notation marks on vowels. for example I can write Γεια σου but if Itry to put a tone in the ι with the : key and then the i key, I get no character. The problem exists in all the programs. I did not had the same problem with mandrake 9.0 . Any ideas? please help. Manolis (A very newbie in the world of linux) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] need help with greek!
Mandrake 9.1 does support UNICODE. I have my installation set for UTF-8, CODE2000 and SILGREEK fonts, and xwg, a keyboard handler. The keyboard program was prepared by a professor of classical greek at the Moscow univ. Xwg will map the keyboard from US to polytonic greek and back. It allows for entry of polytonic characters: accents, circumflex, etc. Of course you must have the appropriate font. The new version of OpenOffice (wordprocessor and spreadsheet) will work with well with UNICODE; two months ago it did not. Postgresql will also accept the characters. On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 at 08:14:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manolis, Seems that the majority of people here don't use Greek. Is there a Linux group in your area that you can direct this towards? You might get better help with an answer there. Here is a list of LUGs in Greece: http://www.linuxhq.com/users/groups/greece.html Sorry we can't help you better. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting manolis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am I the only one that has this problem? don't know what to do Στις Κυρ 08 Ιουν 2003 00:15, ο/η manolis έγραψε: Hi guys! After my installation of mandrake 9.1 I have one little problem. I use the greek keyboard but I cannot enter punctuation notation marks on vowels. for example I can write Γεια σου but if Itry to put a tone in the ι with the : key and then the i key, I get no character. The problem exists in all the programs. I did not had the same problem with mandrake 9.0 . Any ideas? please help. Manolis (A very newbie in the world of linux) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need Help
Hi all Had my Laptop work until I made a time that it was time to reinstall Mandrake 8.0 now I can not install any version of Mandrake, RedHat this is what I get? The Laptop is Compaq Armada 3500, PII 266, 128MB RAM. RAMDISK: Compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 286k freed Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03 I think it is the cd/dvd player that is the problem have a UBS bruner but can not get it to boot from that drive. The Problem is that I am doing a design show for my dissertation which was develop on Linux Mandrake. The show is next Wed at my Uni was hoping for so help from you people might be able to help on this problem. Thank You Benjamin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need Help
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:30:23 + Benjamin Jeeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Had my Laptop work until I made a time that it was time to reinstall Mandrake 8.0 now I can not install any version of Mandrake, RedHat this is what I get? The Laptop is Compaq Armada 3500, PII 266, 128MB RAM. RAMDISK: Compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 286k freed Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03 I think it is the cd/dvd player that is the problem have a UBS bruner but can not get it to boot from that drive. you could try booting from a floppy instead, Mandrake has floppy images for download, but I have doubts you'll be able to find one for 8.0. It actually sounds more like either a hard-drive or memory error, however. If it was the CD drive, it would *usually* be more of an all or nothing type of problem, ie. it wouldn't boot at all. Try the boot floppy and install 9.1 if you can, but I wouldn't recommend KDE or Gnome on that dinosaur! If push comes to shove, the last resort is to do a network install, which I did with my webserver, and there is a special boot floppy for that too! worked like a charm, it did! :) Check out the Mandrake site under Installation Instructions I believe. The Problem is that I am doing a design show for my dissertation which was develop on Linux Mandrake. The show is next Wed at my Uni was hoping for so help from you people might be able to help on this problem. Ouch! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 09:01:40 up 6 days, 7:05, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need Help
Get it working by using my usb cdwriter and 9.1 hdcdrom_usb.img looks likey things are looking up and learn abit about the booting and kernel of linux On Monday 09 Jun 2003 1:09 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 09:30:23 + Benjamin Jeeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Had my Laptop work until I made a time that it was time to reinstall Mandrake 8.0 now I can not install any version of Mandrake, RedHat this is what I get? The Laptop is Compaq Armada 3500, PII 266, 128MB RAM. RAMDISK: Compressed format (err=1)6Freeing initrd memory: 286k freed Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03 I think it is the cd/dvd player that is the problem have a UBS bruner but can not get it to boot from that drive. you could try booting from a floppy instead, Mandrake has floppy images for download, but I have doubts you'll be able to find one for 8.0. It actually sounds more like either a hard-drive or memory error, however. If it was the CD drive, it would *usually* be more of an all or nothing type of problem, ie. it wouldn't boot at all. Try the boot floppy and install 9.1 if you can, but I wouldn't recommend KDE or Gnome on that dinosaur! If push comes to shove, the last resort is to do a network install, which I did with my webserver, and there is a special boot floppy for that too! worked like a charm, it did! :) Check out the Mandrake site under Installation Instructions I believe. The Problem is that I am doing a design show for my dissertation which was develop on Linux Mandrake. The show is next Wed at my Uni was hoping for so help from you people might be able to help on this problem. Ouch! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need help with router setup
I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop (wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I do to fix this? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP). Much thanks in advance, -Russ- * Get your free E-Mail and Homepage Go to http://www.networld.com * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup
Title: RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Russ Rollins Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Need help with router setup I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop (wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I do to fix this? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP). Much thanks in advance, -Russ- When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then bypassing the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need to change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP address cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you are trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH Dennis M.
RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup
What I meant was the cable coming from eth1, where eth0 has the direct connection from the cable modem. In other words, when I plug from eth1 to the wireless router, that's when the scenario (I described below) occurs: I can hit the linux box, but can't get beyond. If I plug from eth1 directly to laptop (thereby rendering the wireless router useless), I get beyond just the linux box and can surf the web. TIA, -Russ- When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then bypassing the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need to change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP address cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you are trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:38:47 -0700 Subject: RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russ Rollins Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Need help with router setup I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop (wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I do to fix this? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP). Much thanks in advance, -Russ- When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then bypassing the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need to change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP address cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you are trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH Dennis M. * Get your free E-Mail and Homepage Go to http://www.networld.com * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need help with router setup
On Friday 06 June 2003 03:52 pm, Russ Rollins wrote: What I meant was the cable coming from eth1, where eth0 has the direct connection from the cable modem. In other words, when I plug from eth1 to the wireless router, that's when the scenario (I described below) occurs: I can hit the linux box, but can't get beyond. If I plug from eth1 directly to laptop (thereby rendering the wireless router useless), I get beyond just the linux box and can surf the web. TIA, -Russ- When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then bypassing the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need to change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP address cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you are trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:38:47 -0700 Subject: RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russ Rollins Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Need help with router setup I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop (wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I do to fix this? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP). Much thanks in advance, -Russ- When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then bypassing the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need to change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP address cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you are trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH Dennis M. * Get your free E-Mail and Homepage Go to http://www.networld.com * I am confused, are eth0 and eth1 in the same computer? or one in the laptop and one in the PC? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup
Mandrake box has two nics, eth0 and eth1. Eth0 is receiving feed from cable modem. Eth1 is what I plug into receiving device (laptop or wireless router). If feed from eth1 goes straight into the laptop, the laptop can connect to the internet and everything works great. If the wireless router gets the feed from eth1, and then the laptop connects to the wireless router, I can only get the Mandrake box--nothing else. -Russ- On Friday 06 June 2003 06:47 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 06 June 2003 03:52 pm, Russ Rollins wrote: What I meant was the cable coming from eth1, where eth0 has the direct connection from the cable modem. In other words, when I plug from eth1 to the wireless router, that's when the scenario (I described below) occurs: I can hit the linux box, but can't get beyond. If I plug from eth1 directly to laptop (thereby rendering the wireless router useless), I get beyond just the linux box and can surf the web. TIA, -Russ- When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then bypassing the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need to change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP address cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you are trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:38:47 -0700 Subject: RE: [newbie] Need help with router setup -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russ Rollins Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Need help with router setup I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop (wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I do to fix this? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP). Much thanks in advance, -Russ- When you say plug the cable into your wireless router are you then bypassing the main linux computer and going from laptop to router? If so you need to change the gateway IP on your laptop from the PC to the routers IP address cause the router has now become the gateway. Can you clarify what you are trying to do, or does my image above reflect what you are doing? HTH Dennis M. * Get your free E-Mail and Homepage Go to http://www.networld.com * I am confused, are eth0 and eth1 in the same computer? or one in the laptop and one in the PC? * Get your free E-Mail and Homepage Go to http://www.networld.com * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need help with router setup
On Friday 06 June 2003 09:03 pm, Russ Rollins wrote: Mandrake box has two nics, eth0 and eth1. Eth0 is receiving feed from cable modem. Eth1 is what I plug into receiving device (laptop or wireless router). If feed from eth1 goes straight into the laptop, the laptop can connect to the internet and everything works great. If the wireless router gets the feed from eth1, and then the laptop connects to the wireless router, I can only get the Mandrake box--nothing else. -Russ- Ok, I get the picture now. So, when you plug the router into eth1 it is not set up to see you PC as the gateway, It must have the PC IP address as its' gateway address, i.e. 192.168.1.xxx and then it will have the ISPs' DNS IP addressess ie. 68.96.13.xx. That way it looks to the PC as the gateway since that is the route to the cable modem and the laptop would then have to have the routers IP as its' gateway address. It would be better I think to have the cable modem connect to the wireless router and then both of your comps looking at the router as their gateway. So both would show the gateway as 192.168.1.1 and the DNS addresses in both would be what your ISP provided. Sorry if this is clear as mud. I don't use wireless but it is the same as RJ5 connections just without the wires. Do you have the wireless nics in both comps? -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need help with internet sharing and router
I have setup the Mandrake Internet Sharing connection and am successfully able to utilize the second NIC in my box to share the internet with my laptop. However, when I plug the cable into my Wireless Router, and then attempt to get online with my laptop (wirelessly) I am unable to do so--I, however can successfully see my Mandrake box (@192.168.1.1) and peruse my webpages there. What can I do to fix this? Anyone experienced the same? I've spent hours trying to get this far (finally realizing I needed to open the ports in the firewall to allow DHCP) Much thanks in advance, -Russ- * Get your free E-Mail and Homepage Go to http://www.networld.com * Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
of the board, but it does have Fresno printed along one edge. FSB is I guess the bus speed to the expansioh slots - supposedly the front side of the CPU. Doesn't make much sense. I guess it's related to the speed that the CPU can interface with the peripherals, memory, etc. If it's in front of anything my guess it's in frunt of the CPU. - Intel 82810 Onbaord Video Graphics with 4 Mb of shared video memory (Integrated into chipset, no AGP slot) Others have suggested it may be a problem. 4 megs of video should be enough for most things. I've got 16. Supposedly, 32-bit color at 1024x768 resolution needs just a little over 4 megs. But that should not impact the installer, and you can select a particular resolution and test different ones during the X setup. - 56K v.90 Modem PCI (Cheetah apparently) This might be a concern - many PCI modems are winmodems. If so, modeming will be difficult because the winmodems are dumbed-down modems' that require Windows hardware calls to function. - Internet Multimedia Keyboard full size (104 key) Marketing hype. Does the keyboard play sound? :) - 2 button Mouse PS/2 Wonder why they didn't market the mouse as multimedia :). Diane Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, andwant to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the "Install Mandrake" button, a message appears saying "your computer will reboot ... installation will begin" (or to that effect). When I clicked "OK" - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault Hi Diane: Welcome to the list and to Linux. First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter). After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like Drive order to boot from. If you can find it, select the CD as the first unit to boot from. Let's try this and then post what you have got. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) Welcome to the wonderful of Linux *smiles* I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. You should be able to fix so it boots in the computers BIOS SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. Can you use the CD-Rom in Windows? If no, does the computer BIOS see the CD-Rom? It probably is a IDE/ATAPI-CD (I am not sure what the drivers name is, but it is the most common type) Best Regards, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault Hi Diane: Welcome to the list and to Linux. First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter). After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like Drive order to boot from. If you can find it, select the CD as the first unit to boot from. Let's try this and then post what you have got. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
If you do not have a owners manual handy you can watch the screen closely during startup. You will probably see something saying press F1 or some other key to change settings. Press and hold that key. That should bring you to the BIOS setup screen. While you are in the bios you may also want to check if there is any setting for a plug and play OS sometimes called PNP or PNP OS. Disable or shut off this feature Good luck and welcome to the group Marc On Thursday 06 March 2003 05:05 pm, Lanman wrote: Diane; You need to make a small change in your BIOS so that the CDROM drive is the first to boot. After that, everything will work fine. Check your owner's manual, and look for information which tells you how to enter your BIOS. Once you get into the BIOS, you should be able to change the order of the boot drives so that your CDROm is the first. Re-Start your install from scratch, using the first Mandrake CD to boot from, and you shold be in good shape. You can leave your BIOS as is after the istall, but remember that and CD's which are Bootable will launch the system if you leave them in the CDROM drive when starting or rebooting. Otherwise, change your BIOS back to the original settings after you've completed the install. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 3/6/2003 at 12:55 PM Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault -- Marc KM5KW Powered by Mandrake Linux 9.0 and Kmail. This is a 100%Windows and microsoft free computer For a superior OS, virus and crash resistant go to http://www.mandrake.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing - MORE INFO
Well, this is great! I didn't expect so many responses. ANYWAY - everybody so far has asked me to check the BIOS settings, and I have replied that my CD-ROM is indeed at the top of the boot list. Further to that, Anders (in this reply) asked if I can use the CD-ROM in Windows - the answer if YES. He also asked if my BIOS sees it. Again, YES. EXCEPT when I've got the Linux CD in the drive I'm very confused. Diane - Original Message - From: Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) Welcome to the wonderful of Linux *smiles* I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. You should be able to fix so it boots in the computers BIOS SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. Can you use the CD-Rom in Windows? If no, does the computer BIOS see the CD-Rom? It probably is a IDE/ATAPI-CD (I am not sure what the drivers name is, but it is the most common type) Best Regards, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Dianne, You may need to go a step further and check your hardware connections. Specifically the ribbon cable from your IDE controller to the CD-rom drive itself. Check to see if this cable has come loose at all, if it has, then this could be your problem. From what you described in your previous post, sounds like your cd-rom failed during install, if you cables are secure, then you may have purchased a defective cd-rom drive. Good-luck, and welcome to the world of Linux! -Jonathan -Original Message- From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault Hi Diane: Welcome to the list and to Linux. First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter). After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like Drive order to boot from. If you can find it, select the CD as the first unit to boot from. Let's try this and then post what you have got. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:19, Diane Arsenault wrote: Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane Let me ask you something. Can you boot from a Windows CD? The reason I ask you this is because the Mandrake CD may be corrupted. Just to make sure. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Diane; You need to make a small change in your BIOS so that the CDROM drive is the first to boot. After that, everything will work fine. Check your owner's manual, and look for information which tells you how to enter your BIOS. Once you get into the BIOS, you should be able to change the order of the boot drives so that your CDROm is the first. Re-Start your install from scratch, using the first Mandrake CD to boot from, and you shold be in good shape. You can leave your BIOS as is after the istall, but remember that and CD's which are Bootable will launch the system if you leave them in the CDROM drive when starting or rebooting. Otherwise, change your BIOS back to the original settings after you've completed the install. Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 3/6/2003 at 12:55 PM Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing - MORE INFO
Bad burn? sounds like the burn isnt bootable. Brian D. Klar - CVE Multimax Network Engineer WPAFB -Original Message- From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing - MORE INFO Well, this is great! I didn't expect so many responses. ANYWAY - everybody so far has asked me to check the BIOS settings, and I have replied that my CD-ROM is indeed at the top of the boot list. Further to that, Anders (in this reply) asked if I can use the CD-ROM in Windows - the answer if YES. He also asked if my BIOS sees it. Again, YES. EXCEPT when I've got the Linux CD in the drive I'm very confused. Diane - Original Message - From: Anders Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) Welcome to the wonderful of Linux *smiles* I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. You should be able to fix so it boots in the computers BIOS SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. Can you use the CD-Rom in Windows? If no, does the computer BIOS see the CD-Rom? It probably is a IDE/ATAPI-CD (I am not sure what the drivers name is, but it is the most common type) Best Regards, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 5:23 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote: Dianne, You may need to go a step further and check your hardware connections. Specifically the ribbon cable from your IDE controller to the CD-rom drive itself. Check to see if this cable has come loose at all, if it has, then this could be your problem. From what you described in your previous post, sounds like your cd-rom failed during install, if you cables are secure, then you may have purchased a defective cd-rom drive. Good-luck, and welcome to the world of Linux! -Jonathan -Original Message- From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault Hi Diane: Welcome to the list and to Linux. First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter). After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like Drive order to boot from. If you can find it, select the CD as the first unit to boot from. Let's try this and then post what you have got. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com just a thought here if you go back to your bios menu... usually F1 wil take you to the IDE device list/settings screen you'll see something like this if you have a hard drive as master and cdrom as slave channel type start end blocks type 1 IDE 0001 8787 8787block 2 - - - -AUTO seting AUTO on device 2 tells the bios to autodetect at bootup this solved to problem on my p133 server which wouldnt boot from cdrom HTH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z4nft3yCLmAxGjYRAuWDAJwOzu0jrwgVKLWEsoRBEQ/+RFf0LwCgjc+6 1UFWfY1sdXcr11BGmEx/AI4= =AnAr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Hi, No - I can't boot from any Cd at all. So I don't think the actual Cd is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in the dark, mind you! Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point. Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:19, Diane Arsenault wrote: Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane Let me ask you something. Can you boot from a Windows CD? The reason I ask you this is because the Mandrake CD may be corrupted. Just to make sure. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave. Both CD's are on Auto. Diane P.S. I have checked the cables - all is well (Simon wrote the following to me): just a thought here if you go back to your bios menu... usually F1 wil take you to the IDE device list/settings screen you'll see something like this if you have a hard drive as master and cdrom as slave channel type start end blocks type 1 IDE 0001 8787 8787block 2 - - - -AUTO seting AUTO on device 2 tells the bios to autodetect at bootup this solved to problem on my p133 server which wouldnt boot from cdrom - Original Message - From: Simon Prosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 5:23 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote: Dianne, You may need to go a step further and check your hardware connections. Specifically the ribbon cable from your IDE controller to the CD-rom drive itself. Check to see if this cable has come loose at all, if it has, then this could be your problem. From what you described in your previous post, sounds like your cd-rom failed during install, if you cables are secure, then you may have purchased a defective cd-rom drive. Good-luck, and welcome to the world of Linux! -Jonathan -Original Message- From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault Hi Diane: Welcome to the list and to Linux. First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter). After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like Drive order to boot from. If you can find it, select the CD as the first unit to boot from. Let's try this and then post what you have got. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com HTH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Z4nft3yCLmAxGjYRAuWDAJwOzu0jrwgVKLWEsoRBEQ/+RFf0LwCgjc+6 1UFWfY1sdXcr11BGmEx/AI4= =AnAr -END PGP SIGNATURE
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
On Wednesday 05 Mar 2003 11:21 pm, Marc Oestreicher wrote: If you do not have a owners manual handy you can watch the screen closely during startup. You will probably see something saying press F1 or some other key to change settings. Press and hold that key. That should bring you to the BIOS setup screen. While you are in the bios you may also want to check if there is any setting for a plug and play OS sometimes called PNP or PNP OS. Disable or shut off this feature Though be aware that on some systems there will be problems with windoew98 if pnp is shut off. If that happens, switch it back on. It seems to depend on your system. I ran a dual boot with it switched on for a good while, without problems. It's better off for Mandrake if you can, but if you can't get your windows to swallow it, just go with the flow. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 5:56 pm, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave. Both CD's are on Auto. Diane P.S. I have checked the cables - all is well I've never come across this before - still desperate measures? Have you tried the disk in both the cd-rom and the cd-rw? If you have set cd as number 1 boot it should try both. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hi, No - I can't boot from any Cd at all. So I don't think the actual Cd is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in the dark, mind you! Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point. Diane No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up). Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to the store and ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show them the problem. Good luck! -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
can you boot from a floppy? On Thursday 06 March 2003 12:50 pm, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hi, No - I can't boot from any Cd at all. So I don't think the actual Cd is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in the dark, mind you! Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point. Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:19, Diane Arsenault wrote: Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane Let me ask you something. Can you boot from a Windows CD? The reason I ask you this is because the Mandrake CD may be corrupted. Just to make sure. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) --- - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:05 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hi, No - I can't boot from any Cd at all. So I don't think the actual Cd is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in the dark, mind you! Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point. Diane No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up). Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to the store and ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show them the problem. Good luck! of course we could teach you how to do it from booting with a boot disk you can create from the CDroms,,, if we want, and if you can boot up from a cdrom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Title: RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Diane Arsenault Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 Hi Simon - My HDD is Primary master, I have a Cd-ROM drive set as Secondary master, and a CD-RW set as Secondary Slave. Both CD's are on Auto. Diane P.S. I have checked the cables - all is well (Simon wrote the following to me): just a thought here if you go back to your bios menu... usually F1 wil take you to the IDE device list/settings screen you'll see something like this if you have a hard drive as master and cdrom as slave channel type start end blocks type 1 IDE 0001 8787 8787 block 2 - - - - AUTO seting AUTO on device 2 tells the bios to autodetect at bootup this solved to problem on my p133 server which wouldnt boot from cdrom - Original Message - From: Simon Prosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 5:23 pm, Jonathan Shilling wrote: Dianne, You may need to go a step further and check your hardware connections. Specifically the ribbon cable from your IDE controller to the CD-rom drive itself. Check to see if this cable has come loose at all, if it has, then this could be your problem. From what you described in your previous post, sounds like your cd-rom failed during install, if you cables are secure, then you may have purchased a defective cd-rom drive. Good-luck, and welcome to the world of Linux! -Jonathan -Original Message- From: Diane Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 Thanks to both Lanman and Adolfo for their replies. Unfortunately, I have already placed my Cd-ROM drive at the top of the boot priority list, but some reason I can't boot from it regardless. What now? Diane - Original Message - From: Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MDK Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:55, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hello everyone, I am totally new to Linux. Just bought a new computer, and want to install both Windows 95 and Mandrake 9.0 on it. Here's what I've done so far: (Computer = HP 7915, Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz, 256 Mb SDram, 40 GB HDD) I created a 2 Gb primary Dos partition to install Win95 - all went well with that. Since I cannot boot from my CD-ROM drive (don't know why), I ran Win95, inserted Mandrake CD1in drive, get a setup screen offering several options (install, use floppy, etc). When I click on the Install Mandrake button, a message appears saying your computer will reboot ... installation will begin (or to that effect). When I clicked OK - nothing happened. SO ... I created a floppy, using the cdrom.img file, and tried that way. Everything was going fine, then my computer rebooted diring the program installation, and I get a message that it can't find the CD-ROM. Asks me which driver to try. (I have NO idea). If I randomly choose a driver to try (what the heck, aye), I get asked for kernel info. Well, now I'm just lost. I'm sure at least one of you newbies must have had a similar problem?? Would some kind sould please help me out? Diane Arsenault Hi Diane: Welcome to the list and to Linux. First of all, let's check if your computer can boot from CD. When you reboot your computer, usually the first screen gives you a message about hitting a key to enter setup (normally the key is F2 or Enter). After entering the BIOS setup, you will be presented options that you can set. Browse those options and tell us if you can find something like Drive order to boot from. If you can find it, select the CD as the first unit to boot from. Let's try this and then post what you have got. -- __ / \\ @ __ __ @ Adolfo Bello [EMAIL PROTECTED] / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / // cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / _/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com // pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com HTH -BEGIN PGP
RE: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
Dianne, You may want to try disconnecting the cd-rw drive and leaving only the cd-rom as secondary master, there may be a conflict between the two drives. If that works, check the device jumper settings on the two drives and make sure that they are not both trying to claim the master setting, Jonathan -Original Message- From: et [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0 On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:05 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hi, No - I can't boot from any Cd at all. So I don't think the actual Cd is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in the dark, mind you! Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point. Diane No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up). Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to the store and ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show them the problem. Good luck! of course we could teach you how to do it from booting with a boot disk you can create from the CDroms,,, if we want, and if you can boot up from a cdrom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] COMPLETE Newbie - need help installing Mandrake 9.0
On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:14 pm, et wrote: On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:05 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:50, Diane Arsenault wrote: Hi, No - I can't boot from any Cd at all. So I don't think the actual Cd is the problem - I think it's to do with the Master Boot Record??? Just a stab in the dark, mind you! Any help at all is very much appreciated at this point. Diane No Diane. You only get to the hard drive MBR after bypassing the CD bootup step. But if you can't boot from *any* bootable CD, no matter whether it is Windows or Linux, then something is wrong with the hardware (assuming that the BIOS is correctly set up). Given that it is a new computer, I would take it back to the store and ask for another one. Carry the Windows and Mandrake boot CDs to show them the problem. Good luck! of course we could teach you how to do it from booting with a boot disk you can create from the CDroms,,, if we want, and if you can boot up from a cdrom this instruction is cut and pasted from the Mandrake 9.0 download edition CD#1 a file called install.txt and you should be able to read this file even in Windows or Dos Make a boot floppy with Windows If your computer cannot boot from the CDROM and previous methods do not work, you must make a boot floppy under Windows as follows: * insert the CDROM, then open the icon My Computer, right click on the CDROM drive icon and select Open * go into the dosutils directory and double-click on the rawwritewin icon * insert a blank floppy in the floppy drive * select D:\images\cdrom.img in the Image File field (assuming that your CDROM drive is D:, otherwise replace D: as needed) * select A: in the Floppy Drive field then click on Write. To begin the installation: * insert the CDROM in the drive, as well as the boot floppy, then * restart the computer. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
