Re: [newbie] Mandrake Raising More Capital
Jerry, Maybe you would be willing to contribute some of your time to improve Mandrake's stability. There were numerous beta and release candidates for Mandrake 9.0. If you are having stability issues, the time to have them fixed is prior to the release being official. When Mandrake 9.1 is in beta and release candidate status, maybe you can download a copy (or buy one from cheapbytes) and submit the problems you've been experiencing to the development team. This is by no means an effort to slam you, it's simply that if we want the distro to work flawlessly and support all kinds of hardware combinations, then the more who join the testing effort the better. Joeb On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:55:44 -0800 jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake Raising More Capital Mandrake got slashdotted today, I just saw the article, then I saw an email from the Mandrake team. http://slashdot.org/articles/02/12/20/1815214.shtml?tid=147 I also read http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/future.php3 After reading that, and considering how much Mandrake linux has come to mean to me, I've decided to upgrade my membership. I was wondering, how many peeps here are going to either join the Mandrake club or upgrade their membership? I'm just curious, and was looking for a show of hands. ?? --LX I have to say I'm middle-of-the-road here. I bought my distros and was happy with 8.2. However, I'm NOT happy with 9.0. If 9.0 is all they can do with the money I paid spent, then no, I'm not going to continue investing money in a company who seems to be following in the footsteps of microsoft when it comes to releasing something whether it's ready or not, and IMHO, 9.0 was not ready to be released. In fact, my 2nd machine which I've been fighting with using 9.0 will be downgrading back to 8.2 some time this weekend. Another thing is for sure, when future versions are released I'm definitely going to wait and watch the forums/lists before shelling out 70 bucks again. I was so happy with 8.2 that I bought 9.0 as soon as it was on the shelf thinking it would be even better but that does not seem to be the case, unfortunately. I'm just waiting for the day when Debian steps up to a 2.4 kernel. I'm getting comfortable enough with gnu/linux that I'm ready to make a switch from a distro that's easy to use to one that emphasizes stability. IMO having apps freeze and crash doesn't seem very easy to use. If I want that, I'll go back to M$. Now if Mandrake were to turn around with 9.1 and go back to the quality of 8.2, I'd sing its praises once again. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting new hardware recognised.
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 09:28:03 + Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should it be necessary to reboot to get new hardware recognised? In specific terms, in my struggle with usb devices, I have not yet got my camera recognised. If I try different usb connections, will I need a reboot? I have been assuming that I don't. If I'm wrong, I need to start again. Anne Have you disabled Supermount? If I'm not mistaken, a USB camera is seen as USB storage (maybe /dev/sda1??). If Supermount is disabled, then you would have to manually mount it. Is your usb hub powered? Some USB devices require more power than what can be delivered from the computer's USB port and need a powered hub to operate reliably. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] disappearing nic
On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 21:17, Frank Bax wrote: I downloaded Mandrake ISO's to one machine; then used these for an ftp install on a second machine. Sometime after the installation, access to anything through the nic wouldn't work. I finally did get some results when I changed from DHCP to static ip. But now there's a different problem. Earlier this week, I happened to reboot the machine and when it came up, the system 'forgot' it had a network card. When I went into MCC, there was no card listed, but as I went through the wizard, previous setting were 'remembered' and the system worked again. Today, I happened to do another reboot, amd the same thing happened again. Am I missing something simple for the system to 'remember' it has a nic during a reboot. Frank __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Assuming it's not something simple like the network cable fell out (don't laugh, I once spent an hour tracking that one down). I'm wondering if you're having some kind of IRQ conflict. Do you have an on-board nic or is it a pci card. If it's a PCI card, try moving it to a different slot and see if it's detected. Some motherboards are funny about assigning resources depending on what PCI slot is used. After Linux boots up (whether you change slots or not), you might want to check the error logs and see if there are any boot messages that might shed light on what's going on. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rm and the -i option
On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 12:17, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 10:24, Robin Turner wrote: Joseph Braddock wrote: On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 10:36, Ken Walker wrote: In LM9 when i try and do a rm -rv *, i keep being asked if i want to delete this, for all and every file. How do i turn the -i option off. Doesn't -f work? Sir Robin I can assure you it does. (wink-wink) --LX Cool! Did they fix that with 9.0? If I recall, it didn't work that way with 8.2 (or one of the 8.x releases). Learn something new everyday! Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] about to give up
Greg, Sorry this is late getting back to you (I lost a hard drive so was out of commission for a bit (well, intermittantly it was going bad till it died totally)). Anyway, I'm glad you got your problem resolved. The GATEWAY issue I was referring to applied to having an ethernet card and using a modem for dial-up to the internet (particularly if you had the Mandrake install program auto-configure your network). Anyway, the errata from the Mandrake 9.0 page states: Error scenario: You have an ethernet card for the local LAN and a modem for internet access and you can't reach the internet. Why: Drakconnect wrongly asks for a gateway, and ppp can't set your modem connection as the default route. Solution: As root, edit /etc/sysconfig/network and manually remove the GATEWAY entry. Since you are using a cable modem, it wouldn't have applied to your situation, but I wanted to post this anyway, in case anyone else was waiting on the info. Joeb On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 17:04, gklofa wrote: Well here we are guys, this is an email coming from my mandrake system! But I have been in this pos before, but when re-boot, loose it all and no connection again! I am not going to re-boot at this point in time. To get it connected this time, it did not automatically connect on boot, I had to use the wizard again, and then select connect. John, tripple boot system yes. Booting through a program called system commander. Only one nic, only need the one to connect the router/modem. Here is the ifcfg-eth0 file:- DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=10.0.0.1 NETMASK=255.0.0.0 NETWORK=10.0.0.0 BROADCAST=10.255.255.255 ONBOOT=yes and here is the network file NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=false HOSTNAME=localhost.localdomain DOMAINNAME=localdomain GATEWAY=10.0.0.138 to me, everything looks good. What do you reckon, re-boot and see what happens? Maybe not be able to get back on again! I like living life on the edge though, so I think I will later today, when I have done a bit more investigating, and some advice from the list. Also, what is the latest kernel for mandrake? I am running the one that came with the distro, 2.4.19-16mdk. If there is a later mdk kernel, I wouldn't mind loading it in, just incase this is a bug in the current one. I went into the mandrake control centre, and used the update software, but it doesn't appear to update kernels, none were listed. This is unless this one is the most current?? The update seems to be a bit buggy as well, it kept on dropping out on the downloads, even though the connection was up and working well. I checked by doing a bit of browsing. Maybe the mirror was a little overloaded at the time, will try later. Just want to make sure I have all updates installed before re-booting. regards Greg __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Difference between 8.0, 8.2, 9.x
That's kind of like ansking What's the difference between Windows 95, 98 and Me? In short, with each new release, Mandrake (or any other distribution) attempts to include the latest versions of the linux kernel and various programs they include as part of their distribution. The problem is that sometimes, while old bugs are fixed, new ones are introduced. It just depends on whether the new bugs affect you (for instance I understand there is a bug with certain RAID controllers in 9.0, but since I don't have a RAID controller, it's not a problem). If you want the latest versions of the various desktops and applications, then 9.0 would be the way to go. 8.2 is probably a little more stable (if you apply all the patches to it) than 9.0, but will be more difficult in the long run to keep up to date (as more rpm packagers start compiling and packaging applications for 9.0). Unless there is a real show stopper for you with 9.0, I'd probably recommend installing it. Joeb On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 23:18, Fish Fash wrote: Hi What is the difference between ver 8.0, 8.2, 9.x? _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [linux] [newbie] Tar - Is there a 2Gb limit file size on NT4
I'm just picking up on the tail end of this thread, so someone might have already answered this. I'm assuming your NT partition is setup with FAT. If so, FAT (Win9x, WinNT) has a 2GB limit. That's why when drives larger than 2GB first appeared, they were set up with multiple 2GB partitions. I believe that FAT32 and NTFS gets around this. Problem is that NTFS is currently read-only in Linux (AFAIK). Joeb On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 13:31, Ken Walker wrote: Well, m i thought. So i set-up a quick LM9. did a tar of about 4Gig ( a 9G i borrowed :o) but he wants it back :o( )and tried to copy it to the NT machine using cp Cad.tar ///xxx Cad.tar Stopped at 2G did a copy to a win98 machine cp Cad.tar //x/xxx Cad.tar Stopped at 2G But the LM9 machine let me create a 4G tar file. Both client machines were mounted with smbmount. So it must be I'm gonna try something else. I'm going to tar from my problematic machine ( dimishing disk space ) to this LM9 i just set up. It doesn't matter if it runs out of space, its just to play with. So its off, and i'm off home. Will let you know tomorrow. :o) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Cloning Stuff
I've been using InstantRecovery from Novastor with good success. It's actually a bootable linux distro that then reads the drive partitions and lets you write them to CD, CDRW, tape or other partitions (than the one being backed up). I personally write to CDRWs and it automatically spans them and they are bootable. Works great. I'm not sure if it's exactly what you are looking for or not, but you can check it out at www.novastor.com. On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 16:07, Matt Harrison wrote: Hi all, I am just curious as to the existance of PC deployment software that will run in Linux such as ImageCast of Ghost. I am looking to convert my workstation to 100% linux based but I need to be able to clone windows machines (yes I know it would be easier to switch them to linux, but that is not my call to make) and my research has found nothing. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -Matt __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] OpenOffice Spell Checker.
What dictionary did you install? My OO spell checks quite well. Is it possible that you didn't install myspell and the dictionary for your language? They don't install by default. Joeb On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 15:47, Craig Williamson (ENZ) wrote: Hi There, I can't be 100% certain about this. I know that the mandrake guys are really clued up about what they do, maybe they did disable the spell checker on purpose, maybe it was a genuine mistake. If they did it on purpose, they would most likely try and push the fix to the solution as StarOffice (hence the powerpack statement) or possibly even the Mandrake Club. If true, it smells of a Microsoft tactic. Disable an important feature in a cheaper program, and push the solution as the more expensive option. It could also be a mistake, no bodies perfect. In my experiences with Mandrake9.0, there are a lot of bugs that keep me from completely dropping windows. This problem is pretty big for a lot of people, and I am sure that if Mandrake didn't ship StarOffice as well, OpenOffice would have been working correctly. Any comments? Craig -Original Message- From: Miark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 20 November, 2002 10:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OpenOffice Spell Checker. Craig, you can't be serious. Miark Mandrake's repair tool does not fix the problem. Just off topic, the Mandrake guys may have done this on purpose (as a ploy) to put you onto StarOffice (i.e. buy the PowerPack). -- Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice Spell Checker.
You need to go back and install myspell and the appropriate dictionary for you language. Joeb On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 13:55, Malcolm Candlish wrote: Hello, Can any one suggest a method of getting OO Spell Checker in Mandrake 9.0 working. I have looked around without finding information, except at www.openoffice.org from whence I downloaded 'OOodi-static-0.55-0.i386.rpm'. However I simply cannot get it to run! I expect this has come up some where before, if so please let me know. With thanks in advance of your kind reading. Malcolm Candlish. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] slow boot
On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 07:41, Jim Snyder wrote: Hi I recently loaded mandrake 9.0 and am thrilled with it overall. I have had some problems with a HP CD-writer that I finally unplugged as I have another USB HP CD-RW that works fine. I am suspecting a problem from doing this. When Linux boots, it pauses for a few minutes finding module dependencies and then proceeds to boot up quickly after that. Is there any particular reason for this? I have a network card installed but have no other computers connected currently. Could that be causing this also? Many thanks in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com It sounds like it is waiting for something to time out before it can proceed. Is there still a reference to the old CD-writer in you /etc/fstab? What about, after disconnecting the drive (both power AND data cable, right?), did you remove it from the CMOS settings if it was originally manually set (versus auto-detect)? I had a problem with a failed floppy disk (actually, the cable was loose). The boot process would hang while trying to access the device. I replaced the cable and all was well. It could also be your network card. Unless you told Mandrake otherwise, during the install, I believe it tries to look for a dhcp and dns server. If you aren't using the network card at this time, you can always tell it to not load at startup and see if that improves the boot time. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde problems...
On 16 Nov 2002 21:29:34 +1100 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 12:49, - netmaniac - wrote: Thanks very much for the answer! Can I remove KDE simply using rpm -e command and what files I must delete in order to get rid of it? netmaniac If you initially installed via RPM, you should be able to do that - if not, then you're going to have to do it by hand - which really sucks - but DOES give you a fair understanding of the file structures. Could also just run the remove software gui and click on the kde desktop and it will uninstall everything that Mandrake had installed as part of KDE desktop. Or, if that's too extreme, select all packages and then click on kdebase. That will uninstall most of KDE and you can go through the list and uninstall any KDE things that the packager didn't do automatically. Of course, for either of these, you shouldn't be using KDE while trying to uninstall it. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: Rendering spreadsheet cells
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:42:56 -0500 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way in OpenOffice Calc to convert a cell from a formula (=A5*1.15) to a string (2.30)? To, in effect, render it? Thanks, Miark Highlight what you want to convert (ie. cell(s) with formula in it). Right click and select copy. Right click same cell(s) and select paste special. Uncheck the all box, check the numbers box and uncheck the formulas box. Click okay and you should be done. If you change your mind, ctrl-z should undo your changes. Be forwarned, though, if you save the changes, your formulas you rendered will be gone forever. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Aspell problem
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:08:33 -0800 Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why but when I try to use aspell to check my mail spellings, I get an error message, unable to start Aspell, check Path.. I have aspell installed in /usr/bin/aspell and my when I issue echo $PATH I get the following: /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_02/bin:/home/dlm/bin:/usr/java/j2re1.4.0_02/bin Anyone got any suggestions as to what's happening here? thanks dale Can you type aspell in a terminal window and it finds it? If so, what email program are you using? Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Screen resolution
On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:42:46 + Ongkie Singgih [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, I just finish to install Linux Mandrake 9.0. Is there anybody out there who knows what I have to do to change the screen resolution when the installation of Linux Mandrake 9.0 is done? Thx, Ongkie If you want to change it in an easy GUI way, go to the configuration menu and run the Mandrake Control Center (it's also on the menu bar if your running KDE). Once it loads, select the hardware icon and then select the resolution icon. Make your changes and you're done. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Font
What is the font and where did you get it from? Joeb On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:46:28 +1100 Trevor Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm in need of a font. I used a font from 8.2 to create a rather large document that I need to have remain the same. How would I get that font back from 8.2 into 9.0? Any ideas? Regards Trevor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sylpheed again
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:10:06 + Len Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Steve. Did not know about tabbing. And the 'other' tab in common preferences was hidden. The default entry mozilla -remote 'openURL(%s,raise)' corrupts the URL. mozilla '%s' works fine. Change 'openURL(%s,raise)' to 'openURL(%s)' and it will work. As you found, just using mozilla '%s' also works except it opens a new mozilla each time (I think). Using the openURL uses the existing mozilla that is running (it won't auto start mozilla). Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla upgrade?
On 29 Oct 2002 18:26:34 -0500 Langsley T Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, I've tried to install Mozilla 1.1 on ML 8.2 any number of times and I always get the message that 0.9.8 is necessary for Nautilus and the Gnome core. So I gave up and didn't install it into the /usr/lib directory but settled for installing it into home/user name/ etc. It isn't as fully incorporated into the system this way but at least I can use it for browsing etc. Unfortunately I can't get Evolution to default to it when I click on a link in an email. LTR Mozilla 1.1 probably isn't in your path. You can add it (ahead of /usr/bin) or you can create a symbolic link in /usr/bin pointing to your mozilla. Actually, you need a couple of additional symbolic links, but I can't recall them off the top of my head and I don't have 8.2 installed anymore (but I did run Mozilla 1.0 this way - well, mine was installed at /usr/local/mozilla). Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] one more - CD-RW's
I read Direct CD CDRWs by mounting them with a file system of UDF, works fine. If you are seeing autorun.inf and udf.exe, then Mandrake is probably detecting it as the iso9660. If you manually mount the drive and use -t udf you should be OK. Try something like: mount -t udf /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom (you might have to change the /dev and /mnt depending on how your system is setup). BTW, CDRWs do not automatically have the autorun.inf and udf.exe. Only those formatted by Direct CD (and possibly other Windows burning software). Joeb On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:24:16 -0800 Henry Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got off of this problem myself only I did not realize when I was trying to read the CDRW media that I had used DirectCD to write on it. If it has been written by DirectCD then you will have to go back to windows directCD and convert it to a regular CDRW disc format. Linux cannot read the DirectCD format. Also for your information all CDRW discs come with an autorun.inf file and a UDF.exe file on them. Before you can use a CDRW media in your linux system and expect to use it you must first erase the cd and destroy both of tese files. Otherwise you won't be able to write to the disc. OK. Paul Rodolfo Rodriguez wrote: How do I mount/browse a CD-RW cd? This cd was written using an adaptec program, I think it was called DirectCD. - Paul Rodriguez Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.0 - KDE3 doesn't start
On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:29:05 +0200 Markus Bela [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed 9.0 from scratch. When start KDE, I get an error message that /home/user/.DOCP. list doesnt exist.. What the hell is this? I installed MDK several times but have never seen such a message. Bela When you installed from scratch, did that include /home? It's possible that if your user directory already existed and you reinstalled Mandrake (any linux) that if the /home/username is the same as your user id, you don't have permissions in it. If you think this might be the case, as root you can type chown -R userid /home/userdirectory and that will reset the ownership of the home directory. If that is not the case, if you create another user, can that user get into KDE? Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice....
If you installed OO from the .tar.gz file, it installed in the directory you specified, most likely under /usr/share/OpenOffice.org or something like that. The problem is that that directory is not in your path. You have two solutions, either add it to your path or create symlinks under /usr/bin (which is in your path). Actually, there is a third option - download and use the Mandrake RPMS for OO and you won't have to worry about it. The links will show in your menu and the program files will be in /usr/bin. Joeb On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 23:06:47 -0400 Ralph M. Los [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so if I want to make my own menu items, say for the sake of argument I want to use BlackBox...where are the binaries for these? I can't seem to find them...I guess I'm just looking in the wrong places? -Original Message- From: BCSoft@TowerTraining [mailto:bcsoft;towertraining.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 10:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] OpenOffice I installed OO from the .tar.gz file and can run it if I go to the directory it is in but when I try to use the menu editor to put a (what shortcut, alias?) on the menu bar I get an error message saying the executable can't be found. Won't the K menu (yep, using KDE) handle a script? R - Richard L. Babcock, Owner Tower Training At Tower Training, We Bring the Classroom to You! www.towertraining.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com]On Behalf Of Derek Jennings Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] OpenOffice On Wednesday 23 Oct 2002 1:12 pm, DaveA wrote: Hi y'all. Just installed my first program - OpenOffice 1.0.1 (and learnt heaps along the way!) Being a refugee from the Windoze world, and VERY new to Linux, I sort of expected that the install would automatically create some shortcuts in the Start Menu, but I can's see anything. Maybe I need to logout and back in or somethin'? TIA, DaveA. It would do if you had installed OpenOffice 1.0.1 from the RPM on your 9.0 install CD. But if you install from the .tar.gz file from OpenOffice.org it will not. The Mandrake RPM version will also be better at picking up system fonts, and printers. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Spellcheck does not work
On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 02:22:26 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I am using OpenOffice 1.0 and trying to use spell-check function, but it does not seem to work. Could you tell me how to activate spell-check on OpenOffice 1.0 please? Regards, Oyaji If you are using the OpenOffice that shipped with 9.0, then you need to install the dictionary for the language you are using. If you are using English in the US, it would be myspell-en_US-1.0.1-0.20020626.4mdk. Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What do I use to burn a cdi image???
Assuming you are using Windows (since you sent your email from Outlook), your computer or cd recorder should have come with some type of cd burning software. If you have already download the iso images, try double clicking on one of them and see if the cd burning software starts automatically. Joe On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 00:56:11 -0400 Robert Beach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Was Mandrake 9.0 ready for release?
I recall reading that this is not specific to Mandrake but is an X problem (I think even Redhat 8.0 has it). After switching the mouse to the wheel mouse, you need to restart X (ctrl-alt-backspace or reboot) or the mouse pointer goes crazy. Joe On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:24:11 +0800 Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe thats linux shuddering at the thought of being connected to mS anything... :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Sherman Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2002 5:00 AM To: Newbie-Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Was Mandrake 9.0 ready for release? On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Mark Berkwitt wrote: Too many problems. 1) I use a MS Intelli-mouse and just like in 8.2 if I select a wheel mouse the cursor goes nuts. This happens to me every time, but less in 9.0 than ever before. However, if I just keep rolling the wheel for a minute, it settles down, and I'm able to proceed. -- peace, Rog 01010010011101101110011001110110010101110010011100110010011001100110 00010110111001110011001001100100011100100110011001101110 011001101110001001110100011011100101011010010111001000100111 001101101110011001010111001100110010001110110010110100101001 56469198 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem help
What type of modem do you have (brand name or chipset on the modem)? Joe On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 12:32:53 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when i use kppp i push connect and it says modem ready then it says sorry, the modem doesnt respond anyone know why it says this? im guessing its cause i dont have my modem drivers setup right or something. any help is great Thanks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] new login screen and TWM
On 12 Aug 2002 12:32:33 -0700 Brandon Vanderberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I think I broke something. ;) I'm running Mandrake 8.2. Was working perfectly using both KDE2 and Gnome. I was using Gnome and removed KDE2 and installed KDE3 to see what's new. But somethings radically different. I now get a TWM login screen with no choice of window managers. I can load KDE3 or Gnome from TWM, but I'd rather not go through this extra step. Is there a file somewhere that controls what login screen you get? I was happy with the old one. Thanks in advance. (Sorry if this is in a FAQ somewhere.) I'm searching the web and haven't found anything, but I'll keep looking. Brandon It appears that when you removed KDE2.2, you also removed the KDM it was using. When you installed KDE3, it installed the KDE3 version of KDM, but your system is unaware of it. To fix it you to change the line in /etc/inittab from: #x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon to: x:5:respawn:/opt/kde3/bin/kdm -nodaemon This is assuming that your KDE3 is installed in /opt/kde3 and that /opt/kde3/bin does contain kdm. Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] new login screen and TWM
On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:31:46 -0500 Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that when you removed KDE2.2, you also removed the KDM it was using. When you installed KDE3, it installed the KDE3 version of KDM, but your system is unaware of it. To fix it you to change the line in /etc/inittab from: #x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon to: x:5:respawn:/opt/kde3/bin/kdm -nodaemon This is assuming that your KDE3 is installed in /opt/kde3 and that /opt/kde3/bin does contain kdm. Joe Just to clarify a couple of things, in my response (above), I should have mentioned that your version of inittab will not have the # sign before the x:5:respawn command. The # sign indicates the line is a comment. What I did was to comment the original line and added the new line directly below it. I would recommend you do the same. Also, the line in question occurs at the end of the inittab. Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] supermount problem?
I've run into this when I'm logged in as a regular user and have a CD mounted and then open a terminal window and SU as root and change the CD. It appears that mtab shows both the regular user and root CDs. When it happens, the regular user gets all kinds of wierd things (i.e. can't eject cdrom because it's in use). To fix it, while still as root, I unmount /mnt/cdrom for how ever many occurances are in mtab. I'd try multiple unmountings before disabling the supermount for a CDROM. Joe On Fri, 09 Aug 2002 19:35:30 -0400 Marc Audard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Although my data CDs are mounted automatically, some directories cannot be stat'ed. I had to mount manually the CD-ROM (which turned out to have two /mnt/cdrom entries in mtab) for it to work. I guess I will have to remove the supermount entry in /etc/fstab. Does anyone know about this? Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Distributing the Power Pack?
If I'm not mistaken, the directories for the Power Pack and download editions are different. Giving just the first three CDs may not have all of the files the download has. Also, the software manager is going to assume all of the power pack CDs are there. If the problem is downloading the ISO images, you can order them from Mandrake. I prefer this approach over buying them from various web sites that sell them for $5.00 because buying them from Mandrake actually provides revenue for the company. Joe On 09 Aug 2002 21:12:06 -0600 Warren Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Linux advocacy is beginning to pay off. One of the people I've turned on to Linux Mandrake has just ordered himself the 8.2 Power Pack. Should be arriving any day now, and he I are like a couple of little kids just before Christmas. I've been giving away copies of 8.1 download edition, and the most common complaint I hear is of the temperamental supermount. I'm tempted to burn myself a copy of the first three disks of my friend's 8.2 Power Pack and start giving them away as if they were the download edition. A freely distributable 8.x with a working supermount would go far in promoting Linux and MandrakeSoft here. Is this a good idea? Or should I continue to give away the 8.1 download CDs until I can get the download edition of 8.2? I want to promote LM and MandrakeSoft, not cause a good company harm. Warren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB SmartMedia Readers?
Thanks for the reply, but I have upgraded all packages available which in the past has resolved the cdrw problem, and no go. The problem with the compact flash reader is that I can not find it recognized as any device anywhere. Does not show up under /dev/usb, /scsi , /sda , or anything else. It shows up under usbview as shown below, I just don't know how to access it. It is formatted as fat and works ok with the drivers supplied for windows 98 on a M$ machine. usb-storage Speed: 12Mb/s (full) USB Version: 1.10 Device Class: 00(ifc ) Device Subclass: 00 Device Protocol: 00 Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 8 Number of Configurations: 1 Vendor Id: 05e3 Product Id: 0700 Revision Number: 1.13 Config Number: 1 Number of Interfaces: 1 Attributes: 80 MaxPower Needed: 96mA Interface Number: 0 Name: usb-storage Alternate Number: 0 Class: 08(stor.) Sub Class: 6 Protocol: 50 Number of Endpoints: 2 Endpoint Address: 81 Direction: in Attribute: 2 Type: Bulk Max Packet Size: 64 Interval: 0ms Endpoint Address: 02 Direction: out Attribute: 2 Type: Bulk Max Packet Size: 64 Interval: 0ms -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Are you plugged in through a hub or directly to a usb port? PNY recommends going direct to the USB port for Windows. Not sure why it should make a difference, though. Again, I'm using the SmartMedia reader not the CompactFlash reader. I also have the stock 8.2 kernel loaded and I am running devfs (you might try turning it on/off depending on whether it is on or off now). It sounds like the reader is detected okay, but it is failing to assign it to a scsi port. You could try to manually create the scsi port under /dev and see if that fixes it. It would be something like /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc. Upto /disc, everything is just a folder. I'm not sure how to create the /disc part which is the actual device, though. Probably, not much help, huh? Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB SmartMedia Readers?
Although it makes no claim to Linux compatibility, I am having very good results with the PNY SmartMedia reader (this is not the combined compact flash AND SM reader). It is a simple black blob of plastic with a slot for the media and a usb cable on the back. No lights, or leds or anything else. I paid $19.99US for mine at Staples. It worked out of the box with Mandrake 8.2 after creating a folder called smedia (or whatever you want) under /mnt and adding /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia vfat noauto,user (without quotes) to /etc/fstab. Joe On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:22:08 +0900 Chris Spackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am headed to Osaka in a few days and am thinking of picking up a usb smartmedia reader. At the moment, I have a Fuji FinePix 4500 camera that works with Mandrake 8.2 just fine as /dev/sda1, but a usb reader would be more convenient and versatile. I assume a reader would mount and the same way in the same place - the memory card is the important thing for determining that, right? not the gadget you use to read the card? A quick look through google results didn't show any major problems and in fact turned up a few products' pages that claimed to be linux compatible. So I am not expecting any problems (famous last words), but does anyone have any experience with readers that they can recommend? yoroshiku and tia, -- Chris Spackman www.openhistory.org gpg: 9B6B 860E 7C06 787F 366F 5D3E 7152 DCB2 FC51 51B9 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB SmartMedia Readers?
Dennis, After you reinstalled Mandrake (I'm assuming 8.2), did you update the CD burning software you are using. If I recall, most were broken out of the box and had to be patched or updated. One other thing on your compact flash (although this poster was asking about smart media readers). I know that on my smart media card, I had to have the camera format the media first and I wasn't sure what it formatted it to. I'm wondering if your reader is working, but the format isn't being recognized. In your fstab, if you are using vfat, try using msdos or umsdos. I had to use one of them with an earlier version of Linux. If you dual boot, you can check the properties under windows and see if it indicates what file system it is using (mine actually says something like DOS, not FAT, which led me to try mounting it as msdos) Just a thought. Joe On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 17:21:15 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 21 July 2002 05:12 pm, you wrote: Although it makes no claim to Linux compatibility, I am having very good results with the PNY SmartMedia reader (this is not the combined compact flash AND SM reader). It is a simple black blob of plastic with a slot for the media and a usb cable on the back. No lights, or leds or anything else. I paid $19.99US for mine at Staples. It worked out of the box with Mandrake 8.2 after creating a folder called smedia (or whatever you want) under /mnt and adding /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia vfat noauto,user (without quotes) to /etc/fstab. Joe On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 16:22:08 +0900 Chris Spackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am headed to Osaka in a few days and am thinking of picking up a usb smartmedia reader. At the moment, I have a Fuji FinePix 4500 camera that works with Mandrake 8.2 just fine as /dev/sda1, but a usb reader would be more convenient and versatile. I assume a reader would mount and the same way in the same place - the memory card is the important thing for determining that, right? not the gadget you use to read the card? A quick look through google results didn't show any major problems and in fact turned up a few products' pages that claimed to be linux compatible. So I am not expecting any problems (famous last words), but does anyone have any experience with readers that they can recommend? yoroshiku and tia, -- Chris Spackman www.openhistory.org gpg: 9B6B 860E 7C06 787F 366F 5D3E 7152 DCB2 FC51 51B9 I have a PNY compact flash reader connected to usb, and it comes up at install as being loaded as usb-storage. I have looked for a connection point and it is not shown by harddrake and no scsi device indicated. Can't read it, so as with anything under linux, YMMV. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. (like I can't get my CDRW to make a readable disk now, it was fine before this last reinstall which I did cause I could not cleanly get rid of KDE3, which was messing up my system even though installed in accordance with all FAQs and tutorials I could find. So, PNY works for some folks and others can't get anything but the little light on the device to come on. Good luck -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Suggestion for Mozilla for next Mandrake distribution
I figure this isn't the proper place for this, but maybe the right people will see it or forward it to Mandrake. I have a suggestion for Mandrake on a change to the Mozilla they ship with Mandrake. It would be really nice if a link for www.mandrakelinux.com was included in the personal toolbar of Mozilla. I know it can be easily added, but it shouldn't have to be. If a link could also be added for MandrakeClub, that would be even better, yet. Finally, what is the official way to make suggestions to Mandrake? Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OpenOffice
It sounds like you installed OpenOffice as a standalone app when you wanted to do it as a network app (and after the install, you would run setup as a user and it would copy some configuration files to your home directory). I believe you have to add -network to the install command line. Just incase, there should be a readme file in the directory you extracted OpenOffice into. Check it to make sure -network is correct. You want to look for something about a network install. On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 06:54:57 -0400 Paul Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to install Open Office 1.0 onto a ML8.2 system. Following directions at www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/instructions.html#linux, I unpacked the tar.gz file to /tmp, then, as root in /tmp install, ran ./install --prefix=/opt. This apparently in installed everything correctly to /opt/OpenOffice.org1.0/ The program apparently runs fine as root. However as a normal user, the program freezes shortly after completing the launch process. When I attempt to run either /opt/OpenOffice.org1.0/setup or /tmp/install/setup, either as root or as a normal user, the setup program returns OO is already installed, Would you like to repair? Doing so doesn't change this or any subsequent behaviors, running the setup program again leads to the same message. in following the OO installation directions, I see that the setup program is supposed to install ~1.4 Mb into my home directory. This was not done, either as root or normal user. I am able to run OO as a normal user if I change the suid bit on the program file, but this doesn't seem like a safe solution. Has anybody been more successful installing OO1.0 on ML8.2? How? TIA Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kdm configure not working.
I would guess that you still have KDE2 still loaded on your system. If so, it is the kdm that loads instead of the KDE3 version (which is what you are configuring). To get KDM from KDE3 to load change the last line in /etc/inittab to read: x:5:respawn:/opt/kde3/bin/kdm -nodaemon (instead of x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon) and reboot your machine. BTW, you need to have root access to edit inittab (either login as root or in a terminal window do a su command). Joe On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 07:12:00 + L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have mdk 8.2 with kde3 in /opt. I tried to change kdm settings. Though I could change them in dialog, it is not taking reflected when I logout/reboot. What to do. I work in kde3. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux user No.205042 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compact flash card usb reader
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 22:47:58 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All would work I bet if I didn't get the following message: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist anyone have an idea of how to create sda1. All the usb and scsi modules are loaded as far as I can tell. Hope Mandrakesoft is working on getting better usb support for 9.0. Any help is always appreciated. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Is it possible that you've disabled devfs? I think the usb stuff uses it and if so, that could be your problem. Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compact flash card usb reader
On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:00:58 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i understand you correctly (i likely don't) just make a /mnt/compactflash directory. I did that and I get mount: fs type fs=vfat not supported by kernel. So the line I have in fstab is: /dev/sda1 /mnt/compactflash fs=vfat noauto,user 0 0 and that just doesn't feel right. Oh I had previously done the mkdir /mnt/compactflash but nothing shows up in mtab. The directory is there in /mnt but nothing in it even though the card in the reader has a couple of pictures on it. Any ideas? All help is appreciated. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 First, I think you need to remove the fs= before the vfat. Are you using the stock kernel and are you using LM 8.2? I have the PNY SmartMedia reader (not the compact flash) and under 8.1, I had to use msdos or umsdos (I can't remember which) instead of vfat, so you might try one of them. Also, although I don't think this is the problem, you might try a shorter directory name under mnt. Something 8 characters or less. Finally, and I know this is a stupid questions, so I ask for forgiveness up front, you do have the compact flash in the reader and it has been formatted by the camera, right? Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compact flash card usb reader
On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:30:09 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I bought a PNY compact flash card reader, usb type and had seen where several folks were able to use it on Mandrake 8.2. I tried mounting it but it is not coming up. I used mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/compactflash reply is /mnt/compactflash does not exist. What or how do I create a mount point for the card reader and how do I find out what it's device name is? Harddrake doesn't tell me, just says unknown. Hate to take it back the package is a pain to put back together. TIA for any help. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Did you actually make a directory under /mnt called compactflash? If so, your mount command should work (assuming you don't have other SCSI devices, in which case, your reader might not be sda1). Assuming your reader actually is sda1 and you have created the directory compactflash under /mnt, you can add the following line to your /etc/fstab file: /dev/sda1 /mnt/compactflash vfat noauto,user Then you can just say mount /mnt/compactflash and it should work. BTW, the noauto tells linux not to automatically mount it at startup, since it will generate an error unless the flash card is actually in it. The user allows a regular user to mount/unmount it. Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SmartMedia reader recommendations
I'm using a PNY Smart Media reader. Got it from Staples for $19.99. While it doesn't mention Linux (the diskette with the drivers were Windows only), it works like a charm under Linux. Joe On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 00:06:46 -0600 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'd like to get rid of the jungle of wires that's passing itself off as a SmartMedia reader. What brand is the most Linux-friendly? What models? Thanks, Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux server that works with MS Outlook?
I believe he is asking for something to use instead of Exchange that can talk to M$ Outlook. The connector would let Evolution talk to Exchange. Joe On Wed, 29 May 2002 20:12:47 -0700 shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i believe their is a ximian product that does what you are looking for. connector i think? http://www.ximian.com/ On Wednesday 29 May 2002 04:47 pm, Barry Michels opened a general hailing frequency and transmitted to all open stations: Is there something available for Linux that could work as a server for a MS Outlook client? -- Microsoft, Windows, Windows 98, Bugs, Lacking Features, IRQ Conflicts, System Crashes, Non-Functional Multitasking, The Y2K Problem and The Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corp., Redmond, Washington, USA. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 @ http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem Installation Help
Are you sure your modem is an i810? I'm pretty sure the modem you gave in your other post should use the pct789 setting, but if you really do have an i810, then use it. As long as you are using kernel 2.4.something, you should be okay. You don't need, nor do you want to go back to, 2.4.0. As for getting things from windows to linux on your dual boot machine. You should have a directory under /mnt called windows or something like that (unless, possibly if your Windows 2000 is using NTFS). If it is there, then you should be able to change to that directory from either the console prompt or through Konqueror or other graphical file manager. That (/mnt/windows) is your windows partition. Anything you download there can be copied to your linux partition and vice versa. Pretty neat, huh? As for your floppy, chances are it either has some bad sectors marked on it or it was formatted as a system floppy and has some hidden files. But, since you can copy from /mnt/windows, your really don't need it anyway. The error you are getting with the insmod ptserial sounds like there was an error when it was compiled. What I would do is go to the directory where you untarred the modem driver and type (without quotes) ./configure hal=pct789. When it finishes, type (without quotes) make and if there aren't any errors type (without quotes) make install. After that, see if your insmod commands work. If they don't, let me know either on the list here or email me direct. BTW, although it is frustrating, the problem you are having, really isn't a linux problem. It's a problem with trying to use hardware designed for a specific OS (windows) on a different OS than what it was designed for. The fact that linux can actually use it (well, once you get it installed) is a testament to how good linux really is! Joe On Thu, 23 May 2002 21:03:15 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i got the modem driver pctel-0.9.2 and i followed the steps but after i type make it says to give a hal so i gave it i810 and then it goes on and stops at linux kernel:too many arguments and then says i must install kernel version 2.4.0 so i downloaded 2.4.0 and its like 23.3mb and i cant fit it on a floppy cause of the size and i cant burn cd's cause i cant find the driver for my cd writer and i dont know how else i can get it from windows2k to linux(I'm dual booting) and i also tried downloading the version of the pctel driver 0.8.6 and when i format a floppy to put it on the floppy only has 1.38mb space(odd cause its a 1.44mb floppy..go figure) and that wont work cause the floppy needs to be at least 1.42mb so im like going nuts here tryin to figure out ways to get the kernel or driver over to linux from win2k and nothing im doin is working =\ guess linux wasnt for me... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem Installation Help
Go to www.linmodems.org Then go to Jan's PCTEL Resource link (www.medres.ch/~jstifter/pctel) From Jan's site, download the pctel-0.9.2.tar.gz (I actually am using the pctel-0.8.6.tar.gz and the directions I gave are for it, but the newer version should be similar). Since it is a tar.gz file, you will need to extract it by typing tar zxf pctel-0.9.2.tar.gz and it will create a directory called pctel-0.9.2 (if you use the 0.8.6 driver then the directory will be pctel-0.8.6). Joe On Wed, 22 May 2002 23:35:56 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I am missing some of the files i gotit off a bobo(lol) site where did you get yours? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem Installation Help
running ./configure will create/edit the makefile for you. You could use vi to edit the makefile, but you probably want to read up on it first, because it's not very intuitive (although very good once you get used to it). On Wed, 22 May 2002 23:33:28 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its in .c format so i did a make and itsaidihave to edit the makefile and I have no idea what to edit in it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] kde3 taskbar wont work
That would be correct, the problem is some conflict between KDE 2.2.2 and KDE 3.0. I don't recall the specifics, but deleting the konsole icon and recreating will fix it. If you don't have 2.2.2 installed, then you won't have the problem. Check Mandrake's web site for more info. Joe I wasn't aware that it is known bug (writes note: must check Mandrakes web page more often) Your solution is almost the same as mine but I dragged from the menu to the desktop edited the new desktop icon and then dragged it to the taskbar, I like to be different :-) However, (and again this might be known, I haven't checked) I have found that when I did an install without Kde 2.2.2 and then installed Kde 3.0 afterwards taskbar icons worked properly and no --noxft errror, so it appears to be an issue between 2.2.2 3.0 -- Poogle. Derby,England Linux MDK 8.2 with kernel 2.4.18-6 mdk using Kmail 1.4 6:56pm up 54 min, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.12, 0.15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lilo vanishes
Boot off of CD1 and when the installer displays, type rescue (instead of doing an install or update). Once rescue mode loads, you should have an option to reinstall lilo. Select that and follow any prompts or directions. When done, you should be able to reboot and have lilo be the boot manager. Joe On Wed, 22 May 2002 15:52:58 +0100 Ian Brooksbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed Mandrake Linux 8.1 on th D drive of a compaq deskpro 2000 Pentium 166 with a standard Compaq P50 monitor, and in doing so my Windows 98 installation on the C drive suffered quite a bit. However I got Linux running, it worked just fine, and at Boot up Lilo would give me the choice of Linux or Windows. Fine for a while, but then, after an accidental disconnection of the machine, Lilo disappeared, and I could not get in to Linux. At boot up Windows 98 appears as if the D drive does not exist. I had to tweak Windows a bit to get it back to complete working form, as I need it for work and study, but I don't have access to my D: drive or to Linux. I took a look at rebooting Linux from the CD, but gave this up as the setup pretends that I have a bigger monitor than I actually have, and does not give me access to some crucial parts of the setup screens, and I did not want to risk screwing up my machine any further. Can anyone help me either to rescue Linux without further risk to my Windows 98 setup, or to get access to my D: drive from within Windows again?? Thanks Ian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VMWare problem
Surely it would be cheaper to buy a new scanner than to purchase VMware simply to use a windows only scanner. Wouldn't it? Nothing against VMWare, it does what it does very well, but this seems like overkill. Joe On 06 May 2002 22:53:24 -0500 Jim Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we have any VMware experts here? I am trying to install Windows 98 under VMWare 3.1 on my Mandrake 8.2 computer in order to operate my blankedy-blank Windows-only scanner. When I start my Win98 session I get the following error: Cannot open /dev/parport0: Permission denied Device parallel0 will start disconnected I issued a 'chmod 666 /dev/parport0' to eliminate permissions as being a problem, and I get the following error: Parallel port /dev/parport0 is used by another program (such as another instance of VMware Workstation) or driver (such as lp). Device parallel0 will start disconnected. This is odd as I don't have anything using the parallel port at this time. Whats odd is that it was working with the same configuration with VMware 3.0 under Mandrake 8.1. I have the parallel port configured as follows: Type: Device Path: /dev/parport0 Bidirectional: Checked Start Connected: Checked Does anyone have any ideas as to what the problem might be? Thanks in advance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE3 and Konqueror
You might want to try renaming any .kde .kde2 .kde3 (etc) and qt directories in your home directory to something else (i.e. mv .kde .kde-old). Do this while you are not in KDE. After doing this, start KDE3 and it should rebuild all the directories and settings it needs. Joe On Sat, 4 May 2002 21:13:37 -0500 Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 01 May 2002 10:26 pm, you wrote: Hi all, I decided to give KDE3 another try with the latest .mdk build on the mirrors. Now I have lost my ability to call up konqueror from a su console. It just sits there and says something about render. Happens in kde and kde3. Anyone seen this problem or a fix. I find nothing on the archive and have seen nothing on newbie. I seem to be the only one with a disfunctional kde setup. The install went smoothly with only two packages to fulfill dependencies. I also had to fix some permissions when I copied .kde to .kde3 but could not find the ~/.kde3/share/config/kpersonalizerrc file and could not create it in mc cause there's no create file only mkdir command. Any help before I reinstall and forget KDE3 for now. TIA OK, reinstall it is. The kicker panel doesn't show apps that are currently running and so I can't find a way to shut down the modem since kill pid does not do it . All sorts of ugly things going on with KDE3 installed. yuk! Sorry no one could help with this, I'll wait for the Mandrake release or 3.1 as someone else suggested to another newbie. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: KDE 3.0 - question on installation
You haven't installed KDE3 yet! The urpmi.addmedia simply adds the directory to the list of sources used by urpmi and the Mandrake Software Manger (such as Mandrake CD1, CD2, etc). To actually install KDE3, go back to the directory where you have the files (/home/MyName/kde3 in your posting). Once there, root, do a urpmi * and that will install it. Joe On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:34:25 -0700 Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You rule! That worked perfect to get Gnome and the other window makers added. One problem though. I added KDE twice to the list hoping one would be for KDE 2.2.2 and the other for 3.0 but when I try to log in with either I get old KDE 2.2.2 Did I install KDE 3.0 incorrectly? I followed instructions that were posted in a message to someone else hoping it would work for me. This is what I did to install it: cd /home/MyName/kde3 urpmi.addmedia kde3 file:///home/MyName/kde3 I'm currently using Mandrake 8.2 if that matters. Thanks again for all the help you guys/girls have been offering. It's greatly appreciated. Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joseph Braddock Sent: April 28, 2002 8:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: KDE 3.0 - question on installation Assuming you are using KDM login shell, login with the default session. Hopefully, that will open up either KDE or Gnome. Next go to the K or foot menu and go to Configuration. Go to KDE, then System, the Login Manager. There should be a tab called Sessions. At the bottom, there should be a section called Session Types. Manually add Gnome and KDE back to the list. Capitalization is important so it must be exactly Gnome and KDE (without the quotes of course). Joe On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 03:44:52 -0700 Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question regarding install of KDE 3.0 on Mandrake 8.2 I followed your instructions of: cd /home/MyName/kde3 urpmi.addmedia kde3 file:///home/MyName/kde3 And I logout and when I get to the login screen I only have 2 options in my Session Type drop down box. The first option is default and the second option is failsafe. I should have Gnome in here as well as the other window makers since I have them installed. Another question while I'm at it. When I start up Mandrake 8.2 it never asks me what user I want to login and automatically logs me in. I would rather be prompted as to which user I want to login with. I used to know how to do this but I don't remember. Thanks for your time, Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alastair Scott Sent: April 26, 2002 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE 3 On Friday 26 April 2002 7:10 pm, you wrote: While we are on the topic, I also installed KDE3, and it rocks. Played around with some of the icon settings and it looks great (Screen shot http://nixit.ca/KDE3.png ). Definitely making the switch (at least until Gnome 2 comes out). It's strangely similar to my desktop :) http://www.thebrixton.btinternet.co.uk/kde3desktop.png (the font is Frutiger Linotype; you get it installed with Microsoft Reader www.eu.microsoft.com/reader). One thing tho, everytime I login, the KDE startup wizard loads up and asks me a bunch of questions, how can I disable this. I tried through the wizard but it still loads up everytime I start KDE3. (THis is not the mandrake first time startup wizard). This is a 'known bug' and the fix is near the bottom of this excellent guide to KDE3 quirks: http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2048 Create or edit the file '~/.kde3/share/config/kpersonalizerrc'. Put this line into it: FirstLogin=false Alastair -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: KDE 3.0 - question on installation
Assuming you are using KDM login shell, login with the default session. Hopefully, that will open up either KDE or Gnome. Next go to the K or foot menu and go to Configuration. Go to KDE, then System, the Login Manager. There should be a tab called Sessions. At the bottom, there should be a section called Session Types. Manually add Gnome and KDE back to the list. Capitalization is important so it must be exactly Gnome and KDE (without the quotes of course). Joe On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 03:44:52 -0700 Eric Estes -=RCN Mail=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question regarding install of KDE 3.0 on Mandrake 8.2 I followed your instructions of: cd /home/MyName/kde3 urpmi.addmedia kde3 file:///home/MyName/kde3 And I logout and when I get to the login screen I only have 2 options in my Session Type drop down box. The first option is default and the second option is failsafe. I should have Gnome in here as well as the other window makers since I have them installed. Another question while I'm at it. When I start up Mandrake 8.2 it never asks me what user I want to login and automatically logs me in. I would rather be prompted as to which user I want to login with. I used to know how to do this but I don't remember. Thanks for your time, Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Alastair Scott Sent: April 26, 2002 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] KDE 3 On Friday 26 April 2002 7:10 pm, you wrote: While we are on the topic, I also installed KDE3, and it rocks. Played around with some of the icon settings and it looks great (Screen shot http://nixit.ca/KDE3.png ). Definitely making the switch (at least until Gnome 2 comes out). It's strangely similar to my desktop :) http://www.thebrixton.btinternet.co.uk/kde3desktop.png (the font is Frutiger Linotype; you get it installed with Microsoft Reader www.eu.microsoft.com/reader). One thing tho, everytime I login, the KDE startup wizard loads up and asks me a bunch of questions, how can I disable this. I tried through the wizard but it still loads up everytime I start KDE3. (THis is not the mandrake first time startup wizard). This is a 'known bug' and the fix is near the bottom of this excellent guide to KDE3 quirks: http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2048 Create or edit the file '~/.kde3/share/config/kpersonalizerrc'. Put this line into it: FirstLogin=false Alastair -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PCTEL HSP56K MicroModem
I am using a modem based on the PCTEL HSP56K. The driver I'm using was downloaded from Jan's site (http://www.medres.ch/~jstifter/pctel). It is the pctel-0.8.6. To install it, though, you will also need the kernel source and header files installed. Untar it and then su to root. Next from the pctel-0.8.6 directory (it was created when you untarred it), issue the command ./configure --with-hal=pct789 (without the quotes). Nexts, assuming there weren't any errors listed, type make (again without the quotes). Again, assuming there are no errors, type make install (once again, no quotes). Assuming you didn't get any errors, you should try typing insmod pctel followed by insmod ptserial (no quotes). If you didn't get an error message, then all is well and you are almost done! You need to add the following lines to the /etc/modules.conf file: # for pctel modem alias char-major-62 ptserial below ptserial pctel # country code for pctel modem options ptserial country_code=13 Now, one more step. Still as root, issue the command modemconf. This will start Mandrake's modem configurator. It won't find your modem, so the Unknown option will be checked. That's fine, simply hit the detect button and Mandrake should find it on ttyS15 (I think). Once it finds it, modemconf will point /dev/modem to it and you should be able to use the modem without problem. BTW, once you are done installing and testing that this works, you can uninstall the kernel source and headers. If you run into problems or get error messages, post them and I'll try and help you out. Joe On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 00:20:18 -0600 Sean Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, unfortunately, I've fallen into the bane of Linux users everywhere - *shrudder* WinModem. The good news is, a driver has been made for my type. [ ] The bad news is, it is a little difficult to install. If anyone would like to give me a hand in doing this (basically hand-holding me from start to finish) I would really appreciate it. I already tried it once, and I messed up my settings and am going to re-install Mandrake again. By the way, what is the best/a really good way to partition your hard drive so that it is easy to re-install/upgrade Linuces? Thanks in advance, Sean Robinson President Vernal Anime Society (VAS) http://vernal.quik.com/nz17/vas/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Let Us Part
Many people simply install everything under /. But, I would recommend having a separate /home partition. The main advantage to this is that when you go to install a later (or same) version of Mandrake, it won't automatically format the /home partition, which means any files that you have created, downloaded or otherwise stored there will still be intact. As to the size of the /home partition, that, of course, depends. If you're like my son, who has stores hundreds of mp3 files on it, then you probably want it to be quite large! How big is the hard drive you are planning to partition and what are you planning to use the system for (as that can influence how to size partitions). Joe On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:37:25 -0600 Sean Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a good partition scheme for a single hard drive to have Linux installed on it? Would it be best to have a swap partition and a single partition for everything else, to have an additional one for /home, or to have one for all the directories directly below root? -Sean Robinson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OK I need some sylpheed advice
Sorry it took so long to get back. The package in LM 8.2 is sylpheed-claws-0.7.2claws-1mdk Joe On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:16:41 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph Braddock wrote: I'm using the Sulpheed-claws (0.7.2) that is included with the LM8.2 CDs. While it doesn't pop up a spell check box before sending, it does hi-lite them as you type. Right clicking on the hi-lited word gives a list of suggestions. Joe Heyy, thx Joe...whats the package name if you don't mind? Femme -- Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smartmedia card reader
Is it possible that you are not running devfs? If you issue the command cat /etc/lilo.conf from a shell, it will display the various boot options that appear on the menu when you first boot. Under your linux entry, there should be a line that begins with append=. On that line, it probably says devfs=mount or it might say devfs=nomount. I'm pretty sure if it says nomount, you will manually need to create the entries under /dev. The devfs=mount should create them automatically. Joe On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:31:45 +1200 Walter Logeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Re: [newbie] Smartmedia card reader, on Wed, 17 Apr 2002 05:25, Bryan Tyson wrote: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia There is no /dev/sda1, there is nothing much like it there See what happens if you do modprobe usb-storage before trying to mount the card. Thanks Bryan, output below. I still have no /dev/sda1... how do they appear? There is no sd* device at all in the /dev directory. I am searching around to try to understand how these files work. Still lost after a lot of reading! Walter ~~~ 1003 root@psybernet:/dev (07:25:43) # modprobe usb-storage 1004 root@psybernet:/dev (07:26:07) # lsmod | grep usb usb-storage52528 0 (unused) usbmouse2048 0 (unused) input 3648 0 [keybdev mousedev hid usbmouse] usb-uhci 21232 0 (unused) usbcore50752 1 [usb-storage hid usbmouse usb-uhci] scsi_mod 91072 4 [usb-storage sd_mod sg sr_mod ide-scsi] 1005 root@psybernet:/dev (07:26:13) # mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist -- Walter Logeman Psychotherapist http://www.psybernet.co.nz Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] WinModem problem.
What version of Mandrake are you using? Also, have you installed the kernel source and headers? I believe you need both installed to compile the driver. I'm using Mandrake 8.2 with 0.8.6 drivers. If you still are having problems, I can email you the compiled files. Joe On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 01:45:28 + Paul Stutes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using a HSP56 PCTel Micromodem and I got the 0.8.6 Pctel driver for Linux and I can't seem to figure out exactly what I am doing wrong when I am setting it up...First, I got to the part where it said that the modversion.h was missing. But I finally fixed that. Now, I get to where you run the make cmd and it goes and it gives some errors saying [all-recursive] error 1 and [all-recursive] error 2. Also, when I view the modversion.h all it is is a paragraph with error in front of each line...Like instructions (which make no sense after reading them) Can someone tell me how to install it from scratch or what I might be doing wrong? Thanks, Paul S. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] modem
It sounds like you have a winmodem. Do you know what type of modem you have? If you are dual booting into windows, you can tell from that. If you can get the Manufacturer and model number, then you can get the right drivers for linux from www.linmodems.org Usually the message you are getting is because the dialer can't talk to the modem (because the correct driver isn't loaded) and it assumes the modem is busy (wrong) or not responding (correct). Joe On 18 Apr 2002 07:43:45 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yesterday i installed my first linux program, all went good but when i try to get on the net it tells me my modem is busy or it is not responding, the modem is working for windows. ty Ron Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Calendar/PIM recommendations
What are you using on the Windows partition? Joe On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:00:53 -0600 Warren Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's your favorite calendar or personal information manager (PIM) application? I had high hopes for Evolution, but it's task management isn't robust enough for me. A decent calendar and PIM is one of the few things keeping me from deleting my Windows partition. -- Warren Post Santa Rosa de Copan, Honduras http://www.srcopan.vze.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stopping X
If you are just wanting to get to the console outside of X, you could press control alt F1. That would create a new session in linux (you would have to log in again). When finished doing whatever it was that you were doing, you can press control alt F7 to return to your X session. Joe On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 23:22:13 -0400 Brian York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: control alt backspace force fully logs me out to the X windows login i want to completely quit X Thanks Brian On Thursday 11 April 2002 22:24, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Brian York wrote: Does anyone know how to shutdown x windows after it is started. I can change the login in but 98 percent of the time i want to start x anyway Thanks Brian Hi Brian. I'm a little confused as to what you want to do here, but if its just quitting out of your Xserver, back to the command line, then: control alt backspace will do it... ;-) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] KDE 3 Menu
Try running menudrake and tell it to save. That should bring back your menus after an upgrade to KDE3. If they still don't all show, you can use menudrake to tell it display the mandrake menus instead of kde or gnome. Joe On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:50:12 + Brian York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I changed something but don't remember where i did it at. I have the KDE menu for my K button instead of the Mandrake menu which has a lot more programs. I tried deleting and adding the K button again but that didn't help does anyone know what i did. Thanks Brian _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SM56 in Mandrake 8.2
It's odd that pci shows the modem using IRQ 10 but interrupts don't show it listed. Are you sure you have the modem driver installed correctly? Maybe that it's not actually loading. Here's something to try. Open a terminal window and su to change to root. Then run modemconf and see if it detects your modem. It may not, particularly if you are using IRQ 10. Click on the detect button and see if it finds it then. If it does, you should click the accept button. This will create a link between /dev/modem and the actual device. Joe On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:32:28 -0300 (ART) Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This are the settings with I verified, but I don't know what can be modified. Interrupts CPU0 0: 89312 XT-PIC timer 1: 1389 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 1386 XT-PIC usb-uhci, es1371 6: 20 XT-PIC floppy 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 12: 25974 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 8 XT-PIC ide0 15: 23971 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 0 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 ioports -001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0070-007f : rtc 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : ide0 02f8-02ff : serial(auto) 0376-0376 : ide1 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f0-03f5 : floppy 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR 03f8-03ff : serial(auto) 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1 b000-b03f : Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI b000-b03f : es1371 b400-b41f : VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB b400-b41f : usb-uhci b800-b80f : VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE b800-b807 : ide0 b808-b80f : ide1 d000-dfff : PCI Bus #01 d800-d87f : PCI device 1039:0300 (Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]) pci PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev 196). Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe400 [0xe7ff]. Bus 0, device 1, function 0: PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] (rev 0). Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=8. Bus 0, device 4, function 0: ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 ISA [Mobile South] (rev 35). Bus 0, device 4, function 1: IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 16). Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xb800 [0xb80f]. Bus 0, device 4, function 2: USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 17). IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xb400 [0xb41f]. Bus 0, device 4, function 3: Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 Power Management (rev 48). Bus 0, device 9, function 0: Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 2). IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=12.Max Lat=128. I/O at 0xb000 [0xb03f]. Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Communication controller: Motorola SM56 PCI Modem (rev 0). IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=1.Max Lat=255. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd700 [0xd7ff]. Bus 1, device 0, function 0: VGA compatible controller: PCI device 1039:0300 (Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]) (rev 144). IRQ 11. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd800 [0xdfff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd680 [0xd681]. I/O at 0xd800 [0xd87f]. --- Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Look at /proc/interrupts and see what IRQ Linux is finding it at or if something else is using IRQ9. Then, maybe you can change the settings on the modem or whatever is using the interrupt. Joe On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 18:02:07 -0300 (ART) Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a modem SM56, and until the version 8.0, this modem functioned without problems, I Istalled the driver gotten directly of motorola. http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/SM56_5.1_I386.rpm I reinstalled de Mandrake Linux 8.2 and now the modem not is located. In the win2000 the modem is found in COM3 / IRQ9 (D700 - D7FF). The LinuxConf dont't obtain to find the correct pattern. The HardDark to recognize the sm56 modem, but I don't obtain to use the modem. For more information under this modem I visited this site: http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/SM56_DRIVERS.html T+ = Carlos Alberto L. dos Santos (TOCA) Eng. de Computação - Puc-Campinas(SP) - Brasil [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [newbie] SM56 in Mandrake 8.2
Look at /proc/interrupts and see what IRQ Linux is finding it at or if something else is using IRQ9. Then, maybe you can change the settings on the modem or whatever is using the interrupt. Joe On Sat, 6 Apr 2002 18:02:07 -0300 (ART) Carlos Alberto Lima dos Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a modem SM56, and until the version 8.0, this modem functioned without problems, I Istalled the driver gotten directly of motorola. http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/SM56_5.1_I386.rpm I reinstalled de Mandrake Linux 8.2 and now the modem not is located. In the win2000 the modem is found in COM3 / IRQ9 (D700 - D7FF). The LinuxConf dont't obtain to find the correct pattern. The HardDark to recognize the sm56 modem, but I don't obtain to use the modem. For more information under this modem I visited this site: http://e-www.motorola.com/collateral/SM56_DRIVERS.html T+ = Carlos Alberto L. dos Santos (TOCA) Eng. de Computação - Puc-Campinas(SP) - Brasil [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Yahoo! Empregos O trabalho dos seus sonhos pode estar aqui. Cadastre-se hoje mesmo no Yahoo! Empregos e tenha acesso a milhares de vagas abertas! http://br.empregos.yahoo.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compiling PCTEL modem drivers under Mandrake 8.2
Do you have the kernel sources installed? You need them to compile the driver. Also, pctel-0.9.0.tar.gz is the current version of the driver. I'm using the pctel-0.8.6 driver with 8.2 without any problems. If you're going to compile the driver, you might as well get one of the two above. The 2.4.7 isn't even listed anymore at www.medres.ch/~jstifter/pctel/. Joe On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:57:19 +0200 £ukasz £ukasik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all. I'm totally new to Linux. When compiling the pctel-2.4.7 drivers for my modem under MANDRAKE 8.2 I get an erron message saying that I cannot have #include linux/*.h or #include asm/*.h in my code and I should update ma Makefile. I was trying to do so, but I can't succeed. Can anyone help? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] compiling PCTEL modem drivers under Mandrake 8.2
Under the software manager, go to development -- development -- others and select kernel-source. If it's not there, then check under installed and make sure it shows as installed. Also, when you are compiling the drivers, are you root or have you used su to become root? Joe On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:05:23 +0200 £ukasz £ukasik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. So... How do I get the kernel sources installed? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't get openoffice to install with 8.2
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:10:14 -0700 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Sun: Beta products are designed to run for a limited period of time and the StarOffice 6.0 beta product is set to expire on Sunday, March 31, 2002. You may as well get OpenOffice. Miark Sun has a patch posted on their web site to extend the SO6 beta to June. Joe Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Printing.. lpr or cups
I am only printing with Cups and it works under both KDE and Gnome. Under Gnome, usually the print dialog comes up with generic printer or something like that. I simply select the name of my printer from the dropdown list. I do happen to have both KDE and Gnome loaded, so I don't know if that makes a difference. Joe On 16 Mar 2002 15:07:49 -0300 damian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello everyone.. i've got one that is making me a little mad when it comes to printing. all kde applications that have a print option use CUPS + Gimp-print, which works well, however, all Gnome apps, staroffice, etc ( all non-KDE-specific apps ) use lpr, so i want them to use CUPS. how can i manage to do this? CUPS does not appear as an option in print setup in any of these programs, and i've only managed to print to PS output, then ps2pdf and print from KDE's pdf viewer. is there any way to get cups as an option fon printing in non-kde apps? ... i've got a weird feeling it's a simple matter..? Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HSP56 Pctel modem - better explanation
Okay, the 2.4.7 should work. Have you installed the kernel source? You need it to compile the drivers. Joe On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 06:04:53 -0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The kernel is 2.4.8-26mdk, I installed LM 8.1 3 weeks ago so I've not changed or upgraded anything yet. By the way, the modem was a CM8738 not a i810sis, I tried all back from the scratch with this new setting --with-hal=cm8738 but the results are the same. How exactly did you make the driver ptserial.o work and ignore those errors? At 09:55 p.m. 07/03/2002, you wrote: What kernel are you running? After upgrading my kernel, I could not get the 2.4.7 driver to work, but the pctel-0.8.6 did. Are you sure your modem is an i810sis? Mine is the pct789. I didn't have to use any of the other command line switches except for the --with-hal. The errors I had with the 2.4.7 all dealt with unresolved referrences in ptserial. Again, I never could resolve them, but did get the later driver to work. Joe -- reply to a previous mail, what mainboard? Elite/SIS System Mainboard PCCHIPS Model M598LMR 1.0 mainboard chip? SIS530 CPU to PCI Bridge, ISA AGP PCI USB SMBus/i2c pci board chip? probably HSP56 CM8738 /PCI-SX, the sound card works ok. new daughter board chip? [forget name for new io slot] PCtel/DAA, fb daa2, daa2f PCT303L. According to 2 different FAQs (same pctel.o driver different versions), You need an Elite/SiS mainboard with the CM8738 Audio/Modem ASIC and PCtel Codec/DAA daughterboard. The modem daughterboard has a RJ-11 phone jack to hook up to a phone line. The modem driver autodetects the correct PCI vender and device ID to install the correct interrupt handler. AFAIK all within the minimum hardware requirements for installing the driver properly, so it should not matter, unless i'm missing something. Therefore, making insmod ptserial.o work would be enough to load the modem, now how do i get rid of those errors? Regards Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HSP56 Pctel modem - better explanation
There should be a pctel chip on the modem itself. What does it say the model is? Joe On Sat, 09 Mar 2002 00:59:32 -0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:07 p.m. 08/03/2002, you wrote: I shouldn't jump into the middle of a thread, and I'm not sure of this, but the CM8738 number sounds more like the number of the sound module than the modem. I have a Matsonic MS8308EP motherboard, without the LMR modem, but (IIRC) the sound card is CM8378 or something like that. Possibly, on the LMR modem, the sound module is the modem and goes by the same name?? Randy Kramer shockwave: Randy is quite right -- CM8378 refers to a sound chipset. Have you seen the miniHowTo at http://sayamindu.topcities.com/pctel.txt? Not having been through the thrill of dealing with an HSP modem, I can't vouch for its usefulness, but the guy solicits comments on the main page, so perhaps an e-mail to him would work. HTH -- -- cmg Hmm..now i'm confused, here are the options I can choose, ./configure Options: --with-hal=hal Select one of: pct789, cm8738, i810intel, i810sis, via686a I thought it was a i810sis first but then I opened the box and the only chip I found that matched one of these was HSP56 cm8738/PCI-SX. I'm reading the text file and it has some sections of the FAQ I already have, 7.3. Other options while loading the modules. The other options that you may want to use while loading ptserial.o are: For all HALs : - irq: Force to using irq #. - iobase: Force to use iobase for modem detection. Only for I810/VAI686A HALs: - iobase1: Force the iobase 1 NOTE: if you want to set iobase or iobase1, you should use irq/iobase/iobase1 at same time. Only for CM8738/PCT789 HALs: - vendor_id: vendor ID of the modem - device_id: device ID of the modem. and CM8738 is also listed. I know that CM8738 has to do with audio but reading the previous FAQ, You need an Elite/SiS mainboard with the CM8738 Audio/Modem ASIC and PCtel Codec/DAA daughterboard. The modem daughterboard has a RJ-11 phone jack to hook up to a phone line. that Audio/Modem confuses me, the other chip close to the ones listed is PCT303L. Regards Paul Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HSP56 Pctel modem OT- ET's favorite rant
That's strange. I've got half a dozen of them running in various windows and linux boxes and have never had a problem with them. On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:20:23 -0500 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just a personal opinion here, and I promise not to rant on forever... really. if you value your time as much as a fast food cook, then consider the time spent trying to make the HSP modem work correctly, and also consider that this modem (this is my personal experiance ONLY) may also be causing problems in Winder$ also, you just do not reliazer that the problem is related to the modem, since you thought the modem would not cause problems if it was only resting in the box. My feelings are that this modem (and the related software and drivers installed when you thought you were just installing drivers) causes problems that are not often sourced back to the modem and software, since the BSOD happend when the modem was not in use. I have been feed up with a win-box, sure the modem was at fault, but did not cure the problem untill I removed every instance of HSP I could find in the windows registry and deleted the software. Pulling the modem out did not help. I have experianced this in no lees than 15 different boxes ( It should be noted, I guess, that this was observed over 2 years ago, and hopefully the modem, drivers and software have improved, but since they are closed source binairys we can not know for sure (legally) if they changed at all. for the difference in my time between getting an HSP modem to work correctly in any OS and the cost of a real modem, the real modem wins everytime. On Monday 04 March 2002 14:51, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone here install the HSP56 drivers successfully? what mainboard? mainboard chip? pci board chip? new daughter board chip? [forget name for new io slot] tc,hago. g . Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HSP56 Pctel modem
What driver did you use for this modem? I've got half a dozen in various windows and linux boxes. I've had good success with the pctel-0.8.6.tar.gz and the older pctel-2.4.7.tar.gz drivers. You can get either of them by going to www.linmodems.org and then go to Jan's PCTel site. I just did an isnmod pctel.o and insmod ptserial.o, and they worked fine (no -f). Why are you trying to force the install? If you've upgraded the kernel, you will need to recompile and install the drivers. Joe On Mon, 04 Mar 2002 02:52:59 -0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone here install the HSP56 drivers successfully? I've been stuck for over a week, I'm not making any progress. This is what i get when I tipe isnmod -f pctel.o unresolved symbol bh_mash unresolved symbol etc etc please help me to make this work, I want to get rid of windows once and for all. Thanks in advance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem PCTel
Add the following to the end of your /etc/modules.conf # for pctel modem alias char-major-62 ptserial below ptserial pctel # country code for pctel modem options ptserial country_code=13 afterwards, do a depmods -a (without the quotes). You won't have to keep doing the insmod, then. Starting up ppp will automatically load them for you from then on. Joe On Sunday 17 February 2002 10:15 am, you wrote: Thank you very much ! It's working pefectly !!! :-D The last doubt is, I am not sure about where I should put the following commands: insmod pctel insmod ptserial Should I put them in /etc/profile or there is a better place for them ? Thanks again, Rodrigo Joseph Braddock wrote: Go to www.linmodems.org and from there select the link for Jan's PCTel Resources. Her site will have the latest drivers for the PCTel modems (I'm using them now). If you have problems, let me know and I'll try and help you through it. Joe On Thursday 14 February 2002 09:09 am, you wrote: Does anyone know any driver for the PCTel Platinum V90 HSP Micromodem that works in Mandrake 8.1 ? Thanks, Rodrigo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem PCTel
Go to www.linmodems.org and from there select the link for Jan's PCTel Resources. Her site will have the latest drivers for the PCTel modems (I'm using them now). If you have problems, let me know and I'll try and help you through it. Joe On Thursday 14 February 2002 09:09 am, you wrote: Does anyone know any driver for the PCTel Platinum V90 HSP Micromodem that works in Mandrake 8.1 ? Thanks, Rodrigo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smart Media Reader - Not Under Linux
I know this is going to sound like a stupid question, but you have tried it with the actual card in the reader, right? Mandrake also thinks mine is a 32MB scsi drive (because that's the size of my smart media card). But it only recognizes it with the card in. If I boot without the card in it, it gives an error on scda1. So I told it not to auto-mount. Then I can put the card in and mount it manually whenever I want to. I'm using an Olympus D-460Z and it only has a serial connection which is just too slow to suit me. I ended up paying $19.95 at the local Staples and got a PNY Smart Media reader, figuring that I could always boot into windows to use it. But to my suprise, it works fine with LM 8.1 (at least after I changed the fstab entry to msdos instead of vfat). You might try turning off devfs (or on, if it's off) and see if that makes a difference. I believe one of it's purposes is to help with the detection of USB devices. Joe On Tuesday 05 February 2002 10:34 pm, you wrote: Nothing. It's not recognized by Harddrake. Modprobe produces no entries under SDA or SDB. I suppose I could 'force' it, by making an entry for SDA and then SDA1, then putting a statement into FSTAB where I mount the SDA1 into something like /mnt/camera, but if it's not really there - how would it work? LM had no problem with the Olympus C-700 directly plugged into a usb port. Harddrake found it, listed it under the drives, and I was able to mount it with no problem. And the really funny thing is, with both of my card readers, UsbView not only sees them, but even knows what their correct names are! But Mandrake thinks the dual-slot reader was a 1-gig scsci drive, and couldn't see the other one at all. Apparently, some card readers are spotted by Mandrake, while others aren't. I'm going to give Redhat 7.2 a shot tomorrow, and see if it does any better. Joseph Braddock wrote: Out of curiousity, what's your fstab got in it for the device? On Tuesday 05 February 2002 10:42 am, you wrote: I checked the Sandisk website, and this is what they have to say about the reader I bought: Please Note: SDDR-55 is not mass storage compliant (not supported under Linux). Use drivers included with device or linked below. So, it looks like I'll have to be content with having to attach the camera directly, or just stick with Windows for those times when I need to use a card reader. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sandisk USB CompactFlash Reader
I was able to get my PNY SmartMedia reader to work by changing vfat to msdos in /etc/fstab. My entry for it is: /dev/sda1 /mnt/smedia msdos user,noauto On Monday 04 February 2002 05:09 pm, you wrote: Does anyone have one of these working? I have plugged it into my USB port, and Linux seems to recognize it, even mounts it (as Floppy2 or Floppy, I can't remember which), but when I try to access it through either a command prompt or thru Nautilus, it either tells me that it was unable to access the device, or it tells me nothing at all, like there's nothing on the CF memory card (which there is). Any suggestions? Terry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Smart Media Reader - Not Under Linux
Out of curiousity, what's your fstab got in it for the device? On Tuesday 05 February 2002 10:42 am, you wrote: I checked the Sandisk website, and this is what they have to say about the reader I bought: Please Note: SDDR-55 is not mass storage compliant (not supported under Linux). Use drivers included with device or linked below. So, it looks like I'll have to be content with having to attach the camera directly, or just stick with Windows for those times when I need to use a card reader. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sound blaster 16 (isa) problem
I got my SB16 to work by removing the options sb isapnp=1 line in my /etc/modules.conf and replacing it with: options sb io=0x220 irq=9 mpu_io=0x300 dma=0 dma16=5 Otherwise, it kept trying to use irq=5 which was in use by another adapter. Of course, you want to do acat /proc/interrupts to make sure whatever irq you are trying to assign is available. Joe On Sunday 03 February 2002 10:45 am, you wrote: Hello, I have an isa sound blaster 16 sound card and using linux mandrake 8.1. I can see my sound card at harddrake. When I try to configure my sound card in harddrake I am getting the message modprobe error: can not find isa-pnp module. Also I can not hear sound in any application. Thank you! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cd-rw
Glad to be of help. - Joe On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:51 am, you wrote: Thanks Joe. I don't know how you guys know so much but I'm glade you are there! -Jeff On 28 Jan 2002, you wrote: It sounds like you have used DirectCD to record your CDRWs. To view them under Linux, make a directory under /mnt called something like udf (or whatever you like). Next, as root, edit /etc/fstab and duplicate the line in it for your CDROM except where it says either auto or ISO9660, change that to udf. Save and exit fstab. I usually mount from a prompt, to do so, you may have to do a umount /mnt/cdrom first and then issue a mount /mnt/udf (or whatever you called it). You should have your files. Joe On Sunday 27 January 2002 05:53 pm, you wrote: Hi. I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created in windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It mounts but shows only two files: autorun.inf and udfrinst.exe. -Jeff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] cd-rw
It sounds like you have used DirectCD to record your CDRWs. To view them under Linux, make a directory under /mnt called something like udf (or whatever you like). Next, as root, edit /etc/fstab and duplicate the line in it for your CDROM except where it says either auto or ISO9660, change that to udf. Save and exit fstab. I usually mount from a prompt, to do so, you may have to do a umount /mnt/cdrom first and then issue a mount /mnt/udf (or whatever you called it). You should have your files. Joe On Sunday 27 January 2002 05:53 pm, you wrote: Hi. I am having trouble reading a cd-rw cd. This is a brand new installation of 8.1. I am trying to look at a cd that was created in windows. My Sony crx0811 seems to see cd-r but not cd-rw. It mounts but shows only two files: autorun.inf and udfrinst.exe. -Jeff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printer and /etc/modules
Under /proc there are all sorts of informational files. You can few them opening a terminal or shell and type cd /proc and then you can issue, for example, cat dma to see what dma channels are in use. cat ioports will tell you what ports are used by what devices and cat interrupts will tell you the same for IRQs. There should also be one there call isapnp. It's longer, and you may want to use less instead of cat to view it. Mine has my soundblaster card listed with the settings in use at the top (followed by a lot of alternate settings that aren't used). What is useful about it is that it should show you all of the optional IRQs, DMA and ioports that can be used by your card. That way if one of them are in conflict, you know what you can change. I'm not sure the printer port uses a dma channel, so that may not be the problem. It still sounds like some kind of IRQ problem. When you were in your CMOS, did you notice if the PNP settings were set for auto or manual (where you could reserve specific IRQs). If manual, there might not be an available IRQ to use without sharing, so you might try auto and see. Joe On Saturday 19 January 2002 07:33 pm, you wrote: On Friday 18 January 2002 01:27 pm, you wrote: Alsa is probably going to use whatever IRQ the card thinks it has. I don't know that for sure, but I'm pretty sure you'll still have the same problem. Are you able to change the IRQ for your printer port through CMOS? That might work or if you have a PNP OS setting in your CMOS, you might try telling it the oposite of what it's currently at. Dear Joe, I do not think using Alsa will make the difference either. I changed the PNP stuff but nothing made a difference so far.I believe that I can change the IRQ for the printer through CMOS however according to all the files IRQ 7 has been used only by my printer so I am wondering if it is a dma conflict instead as you suggested? How would I check the DMA situation and how would I change it? From what I can tell there does not seem to be a DMA conflict either but I probably would not know how to tell if there was. Thanks very much for your help and suggestions. By the way, do you know how I would put my printer into /etc/modules so that it could load? I know that the devfs is different and I am not sure how to correctly edit the /etc/modules file for everything. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printer and /etc/modules
I only responded to the first part of your message, sorry. You normally would not have to put your printer into /etc/modules. I believe it is compiled into the Mandrake kernel. For example, the only thing in my /etc/modules is scsi_hostadapter and usb-storage, and Mandrake put both entries there for me. Joe On Saturday 19 January 2002 07:33 pm, you wrote: On Friday 18 January 2002 01:27 pm, you wrote: Alsa is probably going to use whatever IRQ the card thinks it has. I don't know that for sure, but I'm pretty sure you'll still have the same problem. Are you able to change the IRQ for your printer port through CMOS? That might work or if you have a PNP OS setting in your CMOS, you might try telling it the oposite of what it's currently at. Dear Joe, I do not think using Alsa will make the difference either. I changed the PNP stuff but nothing made a difference so far.I believe that I can change the IRQ for the printer through CMOS however according to all the files IRQ 7 has been used only by my printer so I am wondering if it is a dma conflict instead as you suggested? How would I check the DMA situation and how would I change it? From what I can tell there does not seem to be a DMA conflict either but I probably would not know how to tell if there was. Thanks very much for your help and suggestions. By the way, do you know how I would put my printer into /etc/modules so that it could load? I know that the devfs is different and I am not sure how to correctly edit the /etc/modules file for everything. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printer and /etc/modules
Alsa is probably going to use whatever IRQ the card thinks it has. I don't know that for sure, but I'm pretty sure you'll still have the same problem. Are you able to change the IRQ for your printer port through CMOS? That might work or if you have a PNP OS setting in your CMOS, you might try telling it the oposite of what it's currently at. Another problem may be that it's not a shared IRQ but a shared DMA channel. Something else to try would be to open up the sound server configuration applet (Kmenu-Configuration-KDE-Sound-SoundServer). On the sound IO tab, see if full duplex is enabled and if it is, disable it. My soundblaster wouldn't work consistently with it enabled. And just incase Alsa or autodetect is the sound system on that tab, try manually changing it to OSS. Is the soundcard a stock Soundblaster or is it a soundblaster compatible? Joe On Thursday 17 January 2002 11:41 am, you wrote: Dear Joe, Thank you for the suggestion. I tried this change and it did not work. I cannot figure out where the conflict is coming from because according to all the files I can check the printer and sound are not sharing any irq's. The printer uses 7 and I give 5 or 9 to sound but it just does not work for some reason. I can only get the sound or printer to work separately but not together. This makes no sense to me. Would installing and running the Alsa sound make any difference? Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Marcia On Thursday 17 January 2002 12:10 am, you wrote: It sounds like your sound card and printer are both using irq 7. I had this problem with a soundblaster 16 and solved it by adding the following to my /etc/modules.conf file options sb io=0x220 irq=9 mpu_io=0x300 dma=0 dma16=5 alias sound-slot-0 sb Of course, you will need to check /proc/interrupts to make sure irq 9 is free. I believe soundblaster can also use irq 5, but my usb was using it. Joe On Tuesday 15 January 2002 10:58 pm, you wrote: Dear All, I would like to put my printer in /etc/modules to make sure it is recognized and loaded even when I have sound working. As of now I have to choose either having sound or printing because once I put the sb (for sound) in /etc/modules then my printer stops working. So far I have not found a solution to this even through the bios or almost all other methods of irq and ioport selection , reinstalling, changing devfs=mount to nomount, changing printing systems and even getting a new printer all of which have not resolved the problem. Someone else from this list has been kind enough to help me privately with this, too. I thought maybe if I put my printer into /etc/modules along with the sound it could resolve this. It is worth a try anyway. I just need to know how to correctly put my printer into the file and in what order. Should it be after sb or before? Thanks for any help here. I have LM 8.1 and a hpdeskjet 940c printer. Everything worked just fine in LM7, 7.2, and 8. I know devfs is new in 8.1 and I do wonder if that is what is causing this problem for me. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] printer and /etc/modules
It sounds like your sound card and printer are both using irq 7. I had this problem with a soundblaster 16 and solved it by adding the following to my /etc/modules.conf file options sb io=0x220 irq=9 mpu_io=0x300 dma=0 dma16=5 alias sound-slot-0 sb Of course, you will need to check /proc/interrupts to make sure irq 9 is free. I believe soundblaster can also use irq 5, but my usb was using it. Joe On Tuesday 15 January 2002 10:58 pm, you wrote: Dear All, I would like to put my printer in /etc/modules to make sure it is recognized and loaded even when I have sound working. As of now I have to choose either having sound or printing because once I put the sb (for sound) in /etc/modules then my printer stops working. So far I have not found a solution to this even through the bios or almost all other methods of irq and ioport selection , reinstalling, changing devfs=mount to nomount, changing printing systems and even getting a new printer all of which have not resolved the problem. Someone else from this list has been kind enough to help me privately with this, too. I thought maybe if I put my printer into /etc/modules along with the sound it could resolve this. It is worth a try anyway. I just need to know how to correctly put my printer into the file and in what order. Should it be after sb or before? Thanks for any help here. I have LM 8.1 and a hpdeskjet 940c printer. Everything worked just fine in LM7, 7.2, and 8. I know devfs is new in 8.1 and I do wonder if that is what is causing this problem for me. Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB Scanner not seen
I don't know if this will help, since I don't have a USB scanner, but I do have a USB smart card reader. It shows up under /proc/bus/usb and also as a SCSI device as sda. Have you tried loading Harddrake and seeing if it sees your scanner? Joe On Saturday 12 January 2002 08:47 pm, you wrote: OK, I thought this was going to be an easy one. Apparently I was wrong. I have an Epson Perfection 1650 USB scanner chosen partially because it is supported by SANE under Linux. I am running Mandrake 8.1 which has USB support. But the scanner does not show up in /dev/usb, though usbview shows it as present. And, of course, it doesn't show up --- nothing does --- in sane-find-scanner run as root. I downloaded and installed the latest versions of sane (1.0.6) and xsane (0.83) to no avail. Help! I have been through the newbie and expert email archives and found nothing that seems relevant. Where do I look next? Anybody got a spare clue for me? andy Andy Davidson --- Pheon Research If you know what you're doing, you're not learning anything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound Printing again
It sounds like your sound card and lpt port are using the same IRQ, most likely IRQ 7. It would be best to change the IRQ of the sound card as IRQ 7 is usually the standard for printer ports. If the sound card doesn't have jumpers (which most don't anymore), then you will need to find a way to do it through linux. I have an SB16 card that I assign the IRQ in modules.conf, but each sound card driver is different, so that may not be possible in your case. Another thing to try, in your bios, setting plug and play OS to off if it is on or on if it is off and see if that fixes it. If not, you can try setting it to manual and reserving and IRQ such as 5 and see if the sound card will then use it. If it is already set to manual, then try setting it to automatic. One other thing you may try is to remove the sound card from the computer and reboot. Linux should come up fine and should ask to remove the settings for the sound card. Tell it yes. Make sure your printer is working, and then shut down. Now, reinstall the sound card (in a different slot if one is available) and boot the computer. Harddrake should detect it and try and find a free IRQ for it. Joe On Sunday 06 January 2002 02:25 pm, you wrote: Dear All, I am still struggling with this sound and printing. My printing works fine now because I took my sound module out of /etc/modules but the minute I put it back in I lose my printing capabilities. Conflict of some sort but cannot figure it out yet. Civileme guessed that it might have something to do with the Bios but that was not clear yet and I have not received a complete answer about that so far. I do not know if this also could be a devfs problem or not and I really do not understand this new devfs sytem yet. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions. Any thoughts or help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Sincerely, Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stale Information Left Over From Previous Installations
Assuming you told the installer to format the partitions after you re-assigned the names, it should have done just that. If what you were having problems with related to configuration files in your home directory, then when you logged in, you would have received the same home directory and configuration files you had before. What I do before a new install on an existing installation is rename my old home directories to something else. That way when I create the users again, they get fresh configuration files. I then assign rights to the old directories and can move anything back that I want. Joe On Saturday 05 January 2002 10:38 am, you wrote: Within the last week I managed to get Mandrake 8.1 installed on my newest computer. I used the expert install, and after a few initial problems it seems to work, (except that I can't get to the virtual terminals (1 thru 6) -- but that's the subject of a different post). The intent of this post is to describe the biggest problem I had during the installation, and find out if anybody else experiences similar problems. In a way it's not a big deal, because I know how to work around the problem. It's just that, when I mentioned the problem on some mail lists about 18 months ago it was sort of pooh-poohed as if it can't happen. I'm sure it can happen (although I might have the wrong understanding of the cause), and it should be more well known and steps considered to overcome it. My theory is that if you install (I don't mean upgrade) Linux on top of an existing installation, the new installation does not totally wipe out the previous installation, and, under the right circumstances, if you had problems with the previous installation, you may have those same (or similar) problems with the new installation. If you take certain steps during the installation, you can avoid this problem. For me, those certain steps have included: * Rearranging the partition table so that no new partition is in the same location (and size) as the same partition from the previous installation. (Well, except for partitions like /home or Windows partitions.) * Changing the file type of partitions (except for /home and Windows partitions). My recent experience: The first time I tried to install Mandrake 8.1 I tried to install it on the existing (Reiser) partitions from a 7.2 install. During the install I went through the partitioning procedure merely (IIRC) adding the names back to the partitions that already existed (and formatting those that I did not intend to preserve, i.e., other than my /home and some windows partitions that existed.) The install didn't work. (Can't recall all the problems, don't think it even successfully booted.) On the next try, I changed all the partitions except /boot from Reiser to jfs (/boot is ext2). This time the install worked (well, reasonably well -- I must remember not to test the SiS 630 video during the install -- testing it causes problems on all Linux's I've tried since Mandrake 7.2 (i.e., Redhat 7.2, Mandrake 8.0, troktopel 3, and Mandrake 8.1). My old experience: During my first Linux installation efforts (about 18 months ago as I experimented with a whole bunch of Linux distros before adopting Mandrake 7.2) I found that I got better results if I rearranged the partitions in the partition table so that no partition in the current install matched a partition in the previous install (except for things like /home or windows partitions.) If I did not do this, I often found that a problem from the previous installation still existed in the new installation, even if I thought I changed relevant options during the install. If I did do this, I typically did not experience recurrence of previous problems (unless I repeated a poor choice during the reinstallation). Randy Kramer Background info (totally irrelevant, I think): * The computer that demonstrates the problem most recently uses a Duron 700 MHz. on a Matsonic MS8308EP motherboard with integrated video (SiS 730/630), sound, and NIC -- but I'm using a different NIC to get coax ethernet. 256 MB RAM. The experience from 18 months ago was with several different computers. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Setting up Winmodem/Linmodem under Mandake 8.1
I don't have a winmodem with the Lucent chipset (mine uses PCTel), but even after the drivers are installed, you still have to configure the irq and stuff. Usually, if this is incorrect, you will get a device/busy error message. The easiest way to configure the modem (after the drivers are installed) is to open up a terminal or command shell, is an su command to change to root and run modemconf. Select the option to detect and it should do the rest. In case the drivers that came with mandrake are faulty, you can go to linmodems.com and get the latest ones (and directions). Joe On Wednesday 02 January 2002 09:53 pm, you wrote: HI, First time posting to the support list. I have installed Mandrake 8.1 successfully, but can not get it to connect to the internet. My internal modem is a Lucient which has been correctly identified. I have checked this Harddrak. The system complains of no configuration for the modem. I have tried to locate a config script or program. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks David C Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linmodems
Try this. Open a shell or terminal window. SU and then type/run modemconf.
This will display a window with an option to autodetect. Select it and if it
finds your modem, it will configure the /dev/modem appropriately. For
instance, under Windows98, my winmodem is on IRQ 3, under Linux, it is IRQ
15. Anyway, assuming it finds it, it means that a) you have the correct
driver installed and b) it should work for you after you accept the settings.
(if you get a command not found error, then you didn't SU before running it!)
Joe
On Sunday 16 December 2001 10:31 pm, you wrote:
HOORAY! i'm getting close! thanks for all of your help. I used /dev/modem
under kppp and it queried my LT linmodem but it did not respond. i tried to
dial up any ways and it didnot initialize. when i ran the query it found
the modem but it did not give any response back.. under my isapnp.conf the
modem is set to irq 3 or 4 cant remember cauze i had to come back to
windoze.. my bios says its on 9 when my machine boots up.. could this be
the problem?
roy
- Original Message -
From: Bill Winegarden
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 1423
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linmodems
Hi Roy,
Same basic configuration as me. Before we try anything more complicated,
you should go into the kppp , setup tab. In there, under 'device' you
should try the /dev/tty0 or /dev/tty1 .
Also, I have flow control set to xon/xoff. Under the 'modem' tab, there
is a 'query' button. You could give that a try and see if your modem is
responding at all.
I'm sure you're very close.
Regards,
Bill W.
On Sunday 16 December 2001 10:37, you wrote:
I'm am using a LT winmodem(lucent chip) and
ltmodem-kv_2.4.8_34.1mdk-6.00b7-1.i586.rpm. it installed a device.. i
think using /dev/ltmodem ? linux rpm installers dont tell you much of
what they are doing..
also.. thanks for refering the basiclinux course. i have signed up for
it...
roy
- Original Message -
From: Bill Winegarden
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 2051
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linmodems
Hi Roy,
I was in the same boat as you. I needed a ltmodem driver for my modem
to work. If you could supply a little more information; specifically
which modem you are using, which 'rpm' did you use, I might be able to
help. There are many on this list who can supply the answers you seek.
Regards,
Bill W.
On Saturday 15 December 2001 23:18, you wrote:
ok..
I'm new to this wonderful thing called linux, but i love it. i
understand the file system and the fact that everything is a file.
i know there is support for some linmodems, including the one i my
machine. 8.1 did not autodetect it so i went on a search for a rpm
that would work and found one. i installed it, but cannot get the
internet dialer to recognize it. is there another dialer i can use
.. or would it be best to by an external modem?.
i have the same problem with my PDA.. the soft where is there, but
it is looking @ /dev/polit when it is connect to comm2.. does any
one know of some free training one the web or some good books i can
read. i want to use my machine on the web instead of going under
windoz all the time..
thanks
roy
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Re: [newbie] kword on printing
My son had a similar problem with a report for school. I just tried it now and had the same problem. Maybe it's a new feature, but for now, I'll stick with StarOffice 6.0 beta. Joe On Tuesday 20 November 2001 02:59 pm, you wrote: hi, i got my printing to work, woohoo!! you dont know how joyous that makes me. i printed the test page: perfect. printed a coupla slides i did with kpresenter: irreprochable. tried a kword document my girlfriend is working on: ek, the fonts are all squished together, and it is a mess. anybody has any idea what is happening? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Outlook Express to Linux - how can I - also Draughting package needed
I believe KMail can import Outlook Express mail files directly. Also, while Eudora saves their mail in the same format, the windows version adds an extension to the filenames that you need to rename after copying them to the Mail folder in your Linux home directory. On Wednesday 14 November 2001 07:09 am, Derek Jennings wrote: On Wednesday 14 November 2001 02:07, Tim Holmes wrote: From what I've read, and what I've played with, you don't need to make the Outlook Express mail file anything. You should be able to use it as is, and then port it to something you can use in *nix. http://freshmeat.net/projects/mbx2mbox/ I was looking for something to port Eudora Pro mail files to Linux, and had a bit of frustration and problems and then it didn't really do that well of a job. But check out that app above. Maybe it will work. tdh According to chapter 7 of the Kmail manual Euroda Pro files are already in the same format as Kmail. All you have to do is copy them over in the right place. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Another Sound problem
I had intermittent sound problems under KDE until I told it to use OSS instead of ALSA. The easiest way to check/change is to go to the Configuration menu, then KDE, then Sound and finally, Sound Server. On the General tab, make sure the Start aRTS Soundserver on KDE startup is checked (if it's not, that's probably your problem). On the Sound IO tab, change the method to Open Sound System (mine was autodetect). When you hit reply, it will warn you something about possibly locking up apps using sound. If you have any apps open close them and then tell it to restart the sound server. You can go back to the General tab and press the Test Sound button to see if it made a difference. Joe On Friday 02 November 2001 04:24 pm, you wrote: Nope, no good. root was put in the audio group and it didn't work. my other account that is in the root group and audio group and it doesn't work. From: Great Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Another Sound problem Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 16:11:15 -0600 I am logged in as root, but I might not be in the audio group. Thanks. From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Another Sound problem Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 22:34:05 +0100 On Friday 02 November 2001 21:21, you wrote: Did you check if the specific user that you are running has audio enabled i.e. has audio marked as a group? If not ; do so as root :) Good luck. Well, sice I didn't get a reply and I had the time, I re-installed Mandrake from scratch with the sound in mind. I slected everything on the right, workstation, game station, multimedia station, everything. I booted with no sound, KDE still doens't have sound. The one I'm really trying to get to work is XMMS. Again, the beep works and XMMS plays the song, bars move up and the volume is 100% on XMMS and the speakers but nothing comes out. Any information pointing me in the right direction or helping would be apprciated. Thank you From: Great Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Another Sound problem Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:42:41 -0600 Alright, here is what I have: a Dell GX1P with a Crystal Audio CS4232 sound card, on the board It finds the driver but it can't load OPL3. It says YM3812 and OPL-3 driver, OPL3 not detected ff. I run sndconfig and the first test comes back good, I can hear the wav, the midi gives me an error, errors about /lib/modules/2.4.8-26mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/OPL3.o.gz: init_module: No such device /lib/modules/2.4.8-26mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/OPL3.o.gz: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.8-26mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/OPL3.o.gz failed /lib/modules/2.4.8-26mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/OPL3.o.gz: insmod synth0 failed I play the system Beep in Startx but XMMS doens't put out any sound. The display says its playing. I also don't have a /dev/dsp directory. I'm more than a little new, read everything I could and am confused as to what I need to have to get this to work, what I might be missing, and how to go about fixing it. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Win Partition
If your errors are only on creating files, you are probably using the default settings in /etc/fstab, your windows partition is mounting with nosuid which means it shouldn't try to change the userid of any files it creates. Unfortunately, it appears to ignore this and tries to change the owner and errors. Even if you are in a group listed with access, it will still use your user id as the owner and generate the number.LM mounts it originally as root, so that is the owner. If you umount /mnt/windows and then mount /mnt/windows, it should work. You could also set it to not auto mount and then manually mount it. Joe On Sunday 28 October 2001 08:04 pm, you wrote: I've install 8.1 and have pretty good luck except for a few disappointing things. I'm having problems writing to my windows partion from within Linux. I've done nothing different than I did in 8.0 and it just doesn't seem to work. I have to be root to do it. I'm part of the root group, so it should let me in, right? Not sure what to do. I've made sure all of the permissions are set and the like, to no luck. Any help would be appreciated. Steve Spears Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] audio cds in 8.1
I've worked on four different 8.1 installations that had this problem. All of them had the CD pointing to cdrom0, but /dev/cdrom was pointing to ../cdroms/cdrom0. Creating that folder and copying cdrom0 to it fixed it. Sorry it didn't work on yours. Joe On Wednesday 24 October 2001 12:23 am, you wrote: I did try your fix, but it didn't do it. Here's the output of symlinks cd* in the root dir and in /dev [root@localhost dev]# symlinks cd* /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory /dev/cdrom0: Not a directory [root@localhost /]# symlinks cd* dangling: /cdroms/cdrom0 - ../ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd -Paul Rodríguez On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 23:15, Joseph Braddock wrote: I had a typo in my message. It should have read ... if you go to /dev and look at the links... not /etc. Sorry for any confusion. Also, to see where the cdrom is linked, while root (or su), cd to the /dev directory and type symlinks cd* and it should show you where your cd rom(s) are linked to. If the one called cdrom is not linked to ../dev/cdroms then don't bother with my fix. Joe On Tuesday 23 October 2001 10:07 pm, you wrote: This isn't a good fix, but it will make your audio CDs work. I imagine if you go to /etc and look at the links for cdroms, you will see the one named cdrom flashing red (assuming you are at a shell and not using Konqueror). The problem is that it is looking for a link to ../cdroms/cdrom and the correct path should be /dev/cdroms/cdrom. I haven't been successfull in changing it yet (well and getting the change to stick), but I temporarily fixed it by making a directory off of / called cdroms and then copied the files from /dev/cdroms to it. You might try that and see if works for you. Joe On Tuesday 23 October 2001 09:55 pm, you wrote: Yeah, I'm running 8.1. I'm not quite sure how to check where my cd rom really is, but taking a look at HardDrake, my cdrom is listed as existing at /dev/hdc. And that seems to be what is listed in my fstab: /dev/hda6 / reiserfs noatime,notail 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda9 /home reiserfs noatime,notail 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /usr reiserfs noatime,notail 1 2 /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0 It's strange, because it has no trouble reading data cds. But audio cds it can't even read. Thanks again. -Paul Rodríguez On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 06:46, Paul wrote: In reply to Paul Rodríguez's words, written 22 Oct 2001 20:53:14 -0400 Hmm... ls -l /dev/cdrom give me this: [root@localhost root]# ls -l /dev/cdrom lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 16 Oct 22 05:13 /dev/cdrom - ./cdroms/cdrom0 How do I go about changing this, and to what? I have seen this from other people who use 8.1 Are you on that? Check where your fstab points to in respect to the cdrom. And where your cdrom really is. /dev/hd? something. Then the /dev/cdrom link needs to be updated, I guess, to that /dev/hd? Paul -- A mistake is evidence that someone tried to do something. http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.6.3 claws Open Source, Open Minds. Linux. =_1003812773-1734-2281 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com =_1003893187-1734-2593 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] MODEMS vs Winmodems
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 03:06 pm, you wrote: Winmodems were produced to accomplish 2 things: 1) Reduce the cost of computers by reducing the cost of the components. Winmodems are much less expensive to produce since they lack the circuitry of a real modem. It's basically just a interface to a phone jack. The OS then has to act as the modem, putting asignificant load on the CPU. Yes, the CPU can usually bear the load of doing the work the Modem is supposed to. And if you're only interested in running games, and surfing the net, then you won't notice this, and probably don't need Linux anyway. Personally, I use my Linux boxes for other things, and I want the hardware to do what it's supposed to, so that my CPU can do what it's supposed to. That's not true. Winmodems came out at the same time as a number of digital signal processing units. It was for cost savings because a given DSP with the proper software could be a modem, soundcard, game controller or whatever. It is true that DSP devices use the CPU and that's why they weren't practical until high speed processors came out (actually 486). Think back to when modems went from 28.8 to 33.6 to 56K in about 12 months. For 56K, there were competing standards. Some modems had flash roms that could be updated, but most didn't (as a side, if a modem uses software onboard to change the way it works, isn't it still a software modem?). Updating flash roms was not something most users wanted to do, nor was flash ram cheap. DSP devices sought to solve that problem. No longer would you need to worry about modem standards and features changing. Just download the latest driver and you were ready to go. As for speed degragation, lets be real. An older Pentium runs at 166MHZ the most my modem (hard or soft) can do is 56K. The CPU utilization should be minimal (even the drivers have a small footprint). Nobody seems to slam ethernet cards because they have to run Samba to talk to a Windows network. Wouldn't the connection be faster if the ethernet card was hardwired for Samba? 2) To marry you to Windows. Once you're running Win(crap) hardware, you can't defect, and run an alternative OS. Usually the cost inconvenience of upgrading that $100 speed demon box to a real computer is more than the average user will bear. Thus cementing their aligence to M$. Afterall, why change when M$(crap) is so cheap?!? Why should I spend more on hardware just to run Linux... I bet if you did a survey, there are a lot more Linux boxes running on that cheap hardware than on 2GHZ boxes. If you want to run a real OS, you'll need real hardware. Haven't you wondered why a workstation class machine is so much more expensive? It's build to last, with quality parts. The bargain basement Multimedia Windows desktop machines just don't have that quality. They're the ones that cause so many people, so many odd problems. I always thought that a workstation class machine is so much more expensive because of proprietary parts and lack of competition, not because of the quality. The original IBM PC/XT was something like $4,000. An average midrange PC today is in the $1,000 to $2,000 range. Using your reasoning, the XT is the better hardware. For the record, the purpose of my post was not to say that everyone should embrace soft modems. The tendency on the list has been to slam them outright instead of offering support to the person requesting help. That does a disservice to the person asking the questions, discourages them from seeking further help from this forum and ultimately discourages trying linux as an alternative. For the benefit of those who pay per minute for internet access and those with slow connections, I do think it is time to let this topic die off. Let's just agree to disagree. Joe --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MODEMS vs Winmodems
Are you telling me that by hooking up an external modem through a serial port, it's not taking any CPU cycles? Somehow, something in my computer has to read that port and process the data to get it to my browser, email, or hard drive. It might not use as much CPU cycles, but it uses some. Most people using winmodems are coming from windows. To tell a prospective new linux user to shell out $70 for an external (or internal) modem to run their free software won't win many converts. It's kind of like Microsoft offering free beta versions of software if you pay $19.95 for shipping and handling. I don't see how a design choice to minimize cost by utilizing excess CPU cycles is somehow parasitic or evil. For the record, I did some tests of using my winmodem and an external modem. For all practical purposes, the throughput was identical (neither reached 53K due to phone line quality). Neither seemed to slow down my system 450mhz AMD K62 196MB RAM. If someone is running Mandrake, then they are running a minimum of a pentium processor. Every adapter/peripheral in the computer uses CPU cycles to work. For the average newbie, using a winmodem to surf the web and check email is not going to be a resource hog for the CPU. If the CPU is so slow that a winmodem is a burden for it, then the $70 for a new modem would be better spent on a new motherboard/cpu. I sometimes wonder if the Linux community came up with linmodems instead of Windows, if there would be such an uproar over them. Yes, some of them can be a pain to get them working, but there are many, many winmodems that function quite well under Linux. Joe On Monday 01 October 2001 11:58 pm, you wrote: You've actually missed the point about winmodems. It's not that they need a driver to work (If they'll work at all). The problem with them is that they shift the work that normally done by the modem, over to the main system processor, thus sucking valuable CPU cycles. They're parasitic by design, trash the blood suckers, and buy a real modem that does it's own work. Ric Arthur H. Johnson II wrote: Here here! Good post! I have a Lucent and it works Awesome on my Duron 800 at home. It even worked decently find with 166 and 200 Pentiums. Some of us have lives and need to pinch pennies. On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Joseph Braddock wrote: There sure is a lot of talk about modems and winmodems on this list. At times it sounds like a religious argument! But, I think we do a diservice to people by telling them to run out and buy a true modem whenever they pose a question about a winmodem. While it is true that a real modem (external or internal) is usually easier to setup/install. The fact is that many of these people already have the winmodem in their formerly Windows machines. Winmodems can be a good choice, particularly for the cost concious. I know that not all winmodems work with Linux, but many based on Lucent or PCTel chipsets do. The only problem is that you have to install a driver (usually open-source) for them. If having to install the driver is what causes a problem in recommending them, well, then, we better quit using NVida and most other graphic cards, numerous other IO adapters and the like. Ironically, for people coming from Windows, having to install a driver for a winmodem isn't a show stopper, since most winmodems need drivers installed under windows. (Now compiling the driver, etc. might be intimidating). I guess, what I'm trying to say is that if someone request help in choosing what kind of modem to purchase, buy all means, recommend a hardware modem. But if someone states they have such and such a modem and need help installing it, telling them to go out an buy another modem doesn't answer their question and really isn't of much help. Joe -- Arthur H. Johnson II [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Linux Box http://www.linuxbox.nu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GUI Pls.help!
If you're hesitant to edit /etc/inittab, you can, while in KDE or Gnome, run the Mandrake Control Center (should be on an icon on the desktop). From their, select Boot Config (under Boot) and uncheck the box that says Launch the X-Windows system at start. Doing so will have Mandrake make the change to the /etc/inittab for you. If you are just needing to go to the command line while in one of the GUIs, you could just open up a terminal window under Terminals on the menu. There are several to choose from. When through, type exit, to close the terminal or shell. Joe On Sunday 30 September 2001 11:20 am, you wrote: Edit (as root) the following file: /etc/inittab. Replace the line id:5:initdefault with id:3:initdefault Next time you boot, you will only get to command prompt and X-Windows will not start. I hope this helps. Ladislav On Saturday 30 September 2028 23:03, you wrote: To all my collegues, I just want to ask cause I installed Linux Mandrake 8.0 with GUI base apperance How can I remove the GUI base start my linux on a commandline?everytime start with Mandrake it starts it GUI and i must press CTRL+ALT+F7 just to go to the commandline.I want to start LINUX on a coomandline without reinstalling again my Linux Box. Thanks,God Bless and more Power! Respectfully AOL www.aolsystems.com The Technology Specialist Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: 8.1 mail
You don't use Earthlink, do you? For some reason before upgrading to 8.1 which also upgraded my KMail, I had to change my login for mail. It used to be in the format eln/username (which IS how the dialer is set). For some reason, though, I had to remove the eln from the user name in the account info in KMail. Joe On Sunday 30 September 2001 06:35 pm, you wrote: Mail problem still occuring. I found that the settings in the file /etc/resolve.conf keep being overidden each time the system boots. It remoces the search string and reverses the DNS order. If I edit the file Mail works straight away but I have to do this on each subsequent reboot. Is there another master file somewhere else that contains the seettings? How can I stop it being overidden each boot or what other method can I use to I correct it. Nev Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gartner Group Suggests Dumping IIS
Of course, using the lower g might be offensive to the Almighty! :) On Tuesday 25 September 2001 01:13 pm, you wrote: Ummm... Perhaps because the vast majority of the world's population (about five-sixths and growing, last time I checked) do not call their supreme being(s) (if any) God? Most people aren't Christian, you know. By using a small g, I was trying to be as generic and inoffensive as possible. Putting a capital G puts one at risk of being accused of pushing one's religious views on a secualar list, and hence offending many people. Not that I'm accusing you of anything, though :) or dym 'tymGBu' ? Okay, I still don't get this bit :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: RE: [newbie] Need a cheap non-Winmodem
Whata PCTel chipset is on your 3Com modem? I've using several different winmodems based on the PCTel chipset on several linux boxes and haven't had any problem. What problems did you have with the driver? Joe On Saturday 18 August 2001 12:33 am, you wrote: I'm using both COM ports already and my board only has 1 ISA slot, and I have a SBAwe 64 on it. Ok, I'm willing to do the setserial and symlink combo thingies But PCI is the only thing I have left...really. I have a 3Com winmodem and I hate it. I've even tried the PCTel driver, in desperation...no luck. I haven't tried USB externals, how do those work in MDK? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, his name is mario and he lives just down the street from here... :-) As for the Modem, externals are really no config.. linux conf has a modem detect that creates a symlink that links /dev/ttysX to /dev/modem and thats most of your config done there.. As for the internals, I have had some success with non PNP isa cards, but you would very likely find an external easier to get sorted. On another note, I have just bought my first linux distro,, I have been using links for many many years, but always got it from somewhere, never paid for it before.. but I just lashed out and preordered/prepaid 165 odd bucks AU for Mdk8.1 powerpack,,, I am sorta excited... :-) hopefully I will soon make a flawless leap from mdk7.2 and 2.2kernels to 8.1 and 2.4 on all our servers... (thats why I didn't swap with mdk8, we worry about major new releases on first versions) woooh not as good as buying shares in mandrake I supose, but at least I am supporting the movement. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of etharp Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Need a cheap non-Winmodem I don't think you are gonna find a cheap OR a pci modem that does not require any configuration. you might look at e-bay and find an old 28.8 external cheap, and an external requires LESS config than PCI. I want a pizza maker that spits out a pizza on nights that i am to tired to fix dinner, without me having to even open the box or tell it I am tired too, and I want it to have the correct popings when the pizza is done,,, know where I can get one of those? grin On Friday 17 August 2001 18:10, you wrote: Anybody know of a cheap PCI non-winmodem supported by kernel 2.2.? While I'm at it, how about for 2.4.xxx? I've been to http://./~gromitkrc and linmodems, but can't make a suitable choice. I want one that configures itself...doesn't make me have to load any modules. TIA. __ www.edsamail.com Content-Type: text/plain; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: __ www.edsamail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why won't panel KEEP mandrake launchers from menu
If you are using KDE 2.1, then this is a bug. 2.2 (and 2.2.1) fix it. On Friday 21 September 2001 08:44 am, you wrote: I can add a launcher to my panel *manually*, and I can add a launcher to my panel from menus *other* than mandrake menu, but if I try to add a launcher from the mandrake menu directly, it disappears when I login next. From what I can determine, this is a bug, as others have mentioned seeing it. Anything I can do to fix this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] what is wrong with dependencies
I agree 100%. I was simply trying to point out that auto-updating dependencies would create the problems that Window$ has. To solve a real problem (incompatible DLLs), Microsoft has opted to go the hardware route -- hard drives are cheap. Unfortunately, it still doesn't solve the problem, and unless you use all Windows XP apps you still will be faced with the problem (but that's probably part of M$ marketing campaing). Apple OS X and Linux/Unix have approached this problem from a different angle and is much preferred. While having to deal with dependencies can be frustrating, at times, installing a new app doesn't break existing ones (well, unless you use --force :)). Joe On Tuesday 18 September 2001 11:55 pm, you wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:21:10 -0500, Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know dependencies are a pain, but so is Windows when some program being install takes it upon itself to update various DLLs that a new app needs, but breaks existing apps in the process. It's such a problem that evidently XP has given up on the shared DLLs and each app will now have them in their own folder. This is a VERY BAD idea. All it does is lead to resource (drive space, memory, CPU usage, etc.) wastage. Why is The GIMP only about 20MB when inatalled, while Adobe Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro can take up hundreds of megs? Because The GIMP relies on what's already there. The developers don't have to bother with reinventing the wheel; they can use shared libraries like libjpeg and libpng to do simple things like displaying images, giving coders more time to improve their own app. If you upgrade your libjpeg (which can display JPEGs) and libpng (which can display PNGs), you will be upgrading _all_ the applications that use those libs, including Mozilla and Konqueror. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MODEM
As others have stated, ideally, you would use an external or real internal modem (versus a Winmodem). That said, either of those options tend to be expensive. I have had very good luck with several several different brands of Winmodems that are based on the PCTel chipset. There are drivers on the internet for it, and it's simple to compile and install them. Being a Winmodem, they also work fine with Windows 98. The best news, is that they are very inexpensive. I just purchased another one for $6 (plus $9 shipping) from www.pcbuyerclub.com. There is a link for the drivers on www.linmodems.org. I believe it is called Jan's PCTel Resources. Joe On Sunday 16 September 2001 07:10 pm, you wrote: I would appreciate any suggestions as to a suitable modem for a dual boot setup. Using Windows 98 and Mandrake 8. Thank you Ivor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Switching to KDE 22 usual look and feel
You need to run the Login Manager (in KDE it's under the control center, I'm not sure where it is in Gnome). Select the Sessions tab and at the lower part of the window, type KDE for the new type and click the Add new button. KDE must be in all caps. Save the settings and log out and see if selecting KDE now works. Assuming it does, go back to the Login Manager and remove the entry for KDE 22. Joe On Thursday 06 September 2001 22:33, you wrote: Hello, I finally installed KDE 22 on my LM8 box. Unfortunately I got a problem. Each time I am starting the system the login manager is displaying a list with only two windows managers: One is 'Default' which in my system is Ximian Gnome and another one is KDE 22. The point is when I log on using KDE 22 the windows manager is ICE. I don't like this windows manager at all. It looks very primitive and I would like to use KDE 22's normal (usual) configuration of the desktop. Clean KDE 22. Can someone give me a hint which file should I modify in order to disable this windows manager and enable the standard KDE 22 look and feel ? Thanks a lot, Alex Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
