Re: [newbie] Woot! Gimp 2.0 RPM's for Mandrake!

2004-01-16 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] Woot! Gimp 2.0 RPM's for Mandrake!
http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=
8291

Coolness. I tried the web page but can't get to ftp.ibiblio.org ATM. 
Will the athlon RPMS be included in contrib soon? I'll probably want 
to use my cooker mirror du jour (sunet.se) and just update via urpmi. 



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Re: [newbie] Core dump

2004-01-10 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] Core dump

and I suppose it's going to start a rip file inside directory
 sources, yes ? if so I think I had better move the directory

Sure it will, but it's trivial to use -o /tmp/toystory.avi instead of 
-o toystory.avi, provided of course there's enough room on /tmp. 
Besides, if the problem occurs very early on in the process, then it 
probably doesn't matter where the output goes.

Also you probably want to start this all off with 'script' so you can 
save all the output of the session to a file.

In some cases the resultant .avi file (or part of it) may be helpful 
to the developers.

John

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Re: [newbie] Reading PDF attachments from Mozilla containing spaces in the title

2003-12-31 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] Reading PDF attachments from Mozilla 
containing spaces in the title
We're having trouble opening PDFs directly from Mozilla(mdk9.2) that
contain a space in the file name.

Adrian - if you haven't solved this you might try checking your 
Preferences in mozilla, and specifically look at how the PDF helper 
is being called. Usually it's something like  'xpdf %s' where %s 
stands for the file name. You might experiment by placing double 
quotes around the %s part -- the double quotes will prevent the 
shell from seeing the PDF file as a list of filenames rather than one 
complete filename that includes spaces.

Secondly I'm assuming this only happens when reading the mail within 
Mozilla. Is that correct?

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Re: [newbie] editing Mpeg home video

2003-12-27 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] editing Mpeg home video
Hi

About a year or so ago I asked about a program that would allow me
 to split mpeg home videos into smaller sections.

Luckily, a new version of cinelerra was just announced on the PLF 
mailing list. You might try that - just add PLF as one of your urpmi 
sources (in case you hadn't already) and urpmi cinelerra. It seems 
that it can do the job, and much more. I've only lightly used it in 
the past, but the new version looks very capable. However, it's a big 
resource pig. I tried it on a 650 meg AVI earlier today and all I got 
was a blank screen, and seemingly only 17 minutes loaded into the 
thing. That may be due to a resource issue -- as it was successful 
using a much smaller AVI (42 megs). My machine is a 1 ghz with 256 
megs of RAM; I suspect underpowered for this sort of thing.

mencoder seems also capable of this but I have not tried it. For avi's 
there is avisplit, but you're using mpegs. I haven't tried conversion 
to avi, but that might be an option for you.

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Re: [newbie] Moving from windows to linux in the enterprise

2003-12-10 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] Moving from windows to linux in the 
enterprise
With the success of My Mandrake 9.0 Intranet server, My boss
 recently expressed an interest in moving our entire company's IT
 from Windows servers  desktops to either:

A) a Totally linux based solution.

I favor this (obviously) but think it is best approached in stages, 
with each defined function addressed in turn -- once for servers, 
then databases, etc. In other words, try and get one module of your 
overall IT converted to Linux and use it for a while, then attack the 
next module in turn. I wouldn't recommend a whole hog mass 
conversion. Conversion takes time and you need to keep both systems 
running in parallel so you can work the bugs out.

As someone who has had some experience in data conversions (mostly 
with databases, Oracle and such) and also in client-server (mostly as 
a user, not as an administrator) I think Linux could do well in both 
situations. When I worked at Entex, for instance, we used Windows 
clients (Citrix for instance) which could be replaced with Linux 
versions (in fact I believe there is a Linux version of Citrix) for 
data presentment, reporting, and such. 

For your Internet needs (DNS,bind, email etc.) Linux is clearly going 
to be a better solution. Unfortunately, I've been in several work 
environments where I wanted to convert to Linux on the job and the IT 
people didn't think it was a good idea -- but then I'm not really an 
IT person -- most of my job experience has been in data entry  
customer service  collections :). But I've done more IT stuff on the 
side with each job.


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Re: [newbie] Bad Week for SCO

2003-12-07 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] Bad Week for SCO
So Linus sees a connection between Darl and whoring. I'll go along
 with that. -- cmg

GPL SEX

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Re: [newbie] Re:

2003-12-06 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] Re:

And for Monty Python fans, here's a summary of yesterday's hearing
 set in the legendary Cheese Shop:
http://www.yorgalily.org/~yorgasor/ScoCourtroomSkit.html

ROTFL!
:) This is good

WARNING THIS POST CONTAINS TAINTED SCO CODE

main()
  {
  int i;

/ * stuff deleted */

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Re: [newbie] Time display errors

2003-12-04 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] Time display errors

Coming from a Windows intensive background I mainly use X and I have
noticed that since the upgrade, my system time seems to increment
 itself by 2 hours each time I reboot the machine, if I don't
 physically change it each time.

Now that's odd. So would you for instance reboot today, then it would 
be 2 hours ahead, reboot the next day, find it 4 hours ahead - or 
does it just stay ahead of the regular time zone?

I'll hazard a guess you're running KDE and you're seeing the same 
behavior of KDE's clock display I am, but first verify your machine 
is showing correct time by typing 'date' in a konsole. That will 
display what time Linux thinks it is and that is derived from the 
BIOS time (which should be set to UTC, unless you're on a dual boot 
system) and a time zone offset settable by Mandrake Control Center or 
by editing the timezone files directly.



I have set the local time zone in the clock GUI to be
Africa/Johannesburg and hence my time zone to SAST but my time still
increments. I thought it might be that my hardware clock was said to

There may be two sets of timezone information being displayed - as 
others have suggested. My KDE clock right now is +7 hours fast of 
PST, and I've seen variations of that - usually it shows up as EST. I 
don't reboot often enough, but it could advance the zones as you 
describe - I haven't been able to notice. 

If I open Mandrake Control Center, choose System/date and time, my 
clock in MCC shows the correct time zone. I reset the KDE clock with 
right mouse click and Show date and time - and select America/Los 
Angeles, and it thinks I'm on the East Coast somewhere (it's 11:44, 
presumably PM, according to the KDE clock, but 8:44 pm now in 
California). Too bad I don't run this thing at work, I could convince 
my boss it's time to go home :).

As far as I can tell, KDE's information for time zones differs from 
what Mandrake shows -- in other words, America/Los Angeles from 
KDE's splash screen is different from America/Los Angeles in MCC. 
But that doesn't really make sense. What I have noticed is that when 
I start KDE, the time zone will be correct for some period of time -- 
and then something - running some application, or just waiting around 
-- invariably, the clock gets bumped. And it's only affecting the KDE 
clock. Anything else (even KDE applications that display time in a 
status message, for instance, Kmail) shows the correct time zone.

Also take note that KDE's clock can show a time zone independently of 
what the system shows. 



UTC=false
ARC=false
ZONE=America/New_York

Where the America/New_York came from is anybody's guess. I tried

AFAIK it's the default time zone setting. 

 editing the file and putting Africa/Johannesburg as the Zone but I
 did not have any luck with the line as below:

OK but when you edit the file I think you need to rerun init. Many 
configuration files are like that - the changes aren't immediately 
acted upon.

Assuming you reran init (e.g., by rebooting) does the Unix (Linux) 
time zone show as correct? 

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Re: [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts

2003-11-30 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] Eleven days...some thoughts
It's now been eleven days since I installed Mandrake, and I'd like to

Way cool :).

what about spending some quality time curled up by the fire with a cup
of tea and good book?

What fire? I live in an apartment! I'm sure there's a GL fireplace app out 
there somewhere though ...

(grin)

The email program I'm writing from at this moment (The Bat!) is one of
those very elegant programs written for Windows, and is not, at this
time, ported to Linux. For the sake of Linux users everywhere, I do

I've never used the Bat so I don't know what you're missing with the 
other email clients that are available for Linux. Personally I use kmail, 
or if I want to send something quickly, I can use 'mail' or 'elm' from 
the command line. elm is strictly command line (or text console oriented) 
but it's *fast* and after 7 odd years of using it, the keystrokes for it 
(and vi) are rather ingrained into my finger tips.

I've heard from other users on this list that sylpheed and evolution are 
quite nice for doing email. I tried evolution once, didn't really like it 
and haven't tried sylpheed (or is it sylpheed-claws)?


hope someday it will be. I've been told that since it's written in
Delphi, that may make the transition easier.  I don't really know what

I've never seen delphi but somehow it reminds me of visual basic or 
somesuch :). 

looking, especially at Linux clients, but I assure you, it takes a lot
to impress me at this point, and I'm not impressed yet.

What are you looking for? In other words, what does the bat got that 
evolution, kmail, sylpheed-claws, Mozilla Mail (yuchhh) :) or whetever 
else is out there hasn't got? 

Melissa

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Re: [newbie] External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

2003-11-30 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] External editors with 
Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?
 Yeh but so is a Goose Quill Pen

Yikes... what kernel does *that* run? :)

Kmail is great, but I haven't yet been able to highlight 5 messages and
 hit reply, and it replies to all, but it will forward them without any

I try that now and Reply is greyed out. I don't understand why you would 
want to do this, rather than replying to each message serially.

I just set an external editor in Kmail (Settings - Configure Kmail 
-Composer, then click on external editor). We'll see what that does. I 
don't like the Composer editor all that much. It's too Windows-like 
(which may be a boon to some people) but do like some of the features of 
the composer window, such as different colors for quoted text.

Charlie.

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Re: [newbie] External editors with Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

2003-11-30 Per discussione dfox
I wrote about Re: [newbie] External editors with 
Kmail/Sylpheed-claws/Knode/Pan?

I just set an external editor in Kmail (Settings - Configure Kmail
-Composer, then click on external editor). We'll see what that

Bad form to quote my own message, but oh well. It doesn't appear that 
the external editor worked. It is somehow running in the composer 
window (neat trick) rather than opening up a new window via xterm -e 
vi  or equivalent. But once I cursor into the window, I can't do 
anything with the keyboard - the usual vim keys won't work. So I'm 
back to normal as far as the composer editor is concerned for now.

 does. I don't like the Composer editor all that much. It's too
 Windows-like (which may be a boon to some people) but do like some
 of the features of the composer window, such as different colors
 for quoted text.

Charlie.

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Re: [newbie] unsubbed by accident

2003-11-22 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] unsubbed by accident
Two days ago I stopped getting newbie mail.  That is very strange.  If
 this message goes through --  Eric, can you look into it?

Ditto - this happened to me as well - all lists (newbie, expert, even 
changelog) got unsubbed.

e.

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Re: [newbie] OT (sort of) Knoppix

2003-11-15 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] OT (sort of) Knoppix
downloaded it and burned it to CD-R (should I have burned it to CD-RW
instead?).

Well, it is a moving target of sorts, but other than that it shouldn't 
make a difference whether or not a CD-RW is used instead of a CD-R. Of 
course, if you have no use for the old version of it once a newer 
version comes out, well, of course, you can't record over that CD-R :).

In thinking about all this, I do wonder how it's possible to run this,
or any Linux distribution entirely from CD-R and have any sort of full
functionality...perhaps especially in the realm of something like

There are ways to get Knoppix to either install or create a permanent 
directory for settings etc. Basically as it is a ramdisk type setup, then 
any settings in places like /etc get lost after you reboot. And should 
you wish to install, there is an install-cd file there somewhere. I only 
played around with it a few times, but it's fairly awesome for what it 
does. I gave one to my Windows-centric brother  booted it on one of his 
machines. The thing was up in KDE in less than two minutes or so, the net 
was detected  everything else it seems. 

for Windows usage (NTFS, with Windows formatting), wouldn't this
present problems?

Your whole drive is ntfs at the moment??

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Re: [newbie] Mplayer Plugin

2003-11-14 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] Mplayer Plugin
If you use the Opera browser you are able to choose which plugin handles
 a particular mime type.

Out of the box (yes I tried Opera) it may work better than some others, 
but any browser should be able to self-identify the mime types. Are they
not standard?If not, then any browser should allow you to change the 
mime type.

I didn't even know mplayerplugin existed. Anyway I did install it last 
night. I don't get anything other than a nearly blank window when 
selecting something from mozilla. I get one line saying that it is 
started, but no output is forthcoming.

And for what it's worth, the acid test I am using for the moment is
at http://www.pbs.org/nova. Look for a link for streaming video of Nova 
episodes. So far, nothing seems to start anything. The closest I've 
gotten (irrespective of browsers, it seems, and in Opera too) is another 
blank window. Actually, it seems that Realplayer is started, but no 
connection is made. Play/stop/pause buttons don't produce any desired 
effects.

I hate plugins and don't see the need for them. Why can't the browser just 
open up a new process with the http:// or whatever that's needed to 
identify the stream? Also, it's much more productive if the site gives us 
that, then it's a simple mplayer url . Once I have that, for 
instance, I've taken for instance to making little startup buttons for 
various radio stations on my desktop :).

Oh of course once in a while, I have to redo them as the servers get 
changed. :(

Anyway, try that site and see if you get a Nova episode to display - then 
let me know what your config looks like :). I have 
mplayer/gmplayer/xine/realplayer 8 and even totem installed here (for 
streamtuner).

derek

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Re: [newbie] Mplayer Plugin

2003-11-14 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] Mplayer Plugin
It seems that I have solved. My problems (mplayerplug-in  0.8 not
 playing Quicktime movies) were caused by the generic rpm I downloaded

I got my rpm from the main site (or is it contrib?) let's check:

(probably cooker main, 1.0.0.pre2)

 from sourceforge. I tried do download and compile the tarball instead
 and... ta-dà! It works! Now I have what I need: RealMedia handled by
 RealPlayer 8 and QuickTime movies played by mplayerplug-in.

qt should work fine with standalone mplayer. Ah, if I only knew the url 
I'd pass it directly rather than use the plug in.

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Re: [newbie] ** LIST ISSUES: PLEASE READ **

2003-11-14 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] ** LIST ISSUES: PLEASE READ **
I have been getting bounce backs for days and had no idea what was going
 on. It makes any interaction to the list very laborious. Can you fix me
 up? Roly

Me too :(. Thought the issue was MAPS related but that's anyone's guess, 
and I'm still trying to find out more specifics.

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Re: [newbie] ** LIST ISSUES: PLEASE READ **

2003-11-14 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] ** LIST ISSUES: PLEASE READ **
How many bounces did you get?

Several. All (so far) seem to come from 198.144.206.157 -- i.e., if I send 
the mail through my postfix mail server. I've compiled more details about 
the hijack over on the expert list. And  I can get around that issue 
specifically by using my upstream smtp port - that's how I've configured 
kmail at the moment. But I don't know if newbie/expert are configured to 
check MAPS or not. If they are, that's where the issue lies. I am still 
attempting to be deelisted (there's that naughty word again, 
have to get through a filter...) :).

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Re: [newbie] Mplayer Plugin

2003-11-14 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] Mplayer Plugin
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/matrix_revolutions.html

I'm there now: it's just sitting there saying transferring data from the
site. One line about mplayer plugin, that's it. 

The mplayer version I used was the standard 9.2 plf version, so was the
plug-in. They work fine for me.

Maybe the plf ones make a difference?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail]# rpm -qa | grep mplayer
mplayer-skins-1.3-7mdk
mplayer-gui-1.0-0.pre2.2mdk
mplayerplugin-1.0-0.pre2.1mdk
mplayer1.0-1.0-0.pre2.6mdk

Charlie

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[newbie] testing.

2003-11-12 Per discussione dfox
this is a test.. smtp.tsoft.com outbound gateway

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Re: [newbie] Linux Power Tools (WAS Good Article on Linux Filesystems)

2003-11-12 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] Linux Power Tools (WAS Good Article on 
Linux Filesystems)
One thing that's a rarity in the part of Canada that I live in is a book
 that acknowledges that Mandrake even exists.  So you can imagine my
 delight when the cover of a recent release by Sybex called Linux Power

If this is anything like Unix Power Tools put out a few years ago by 
O'Reilly -- it's a must have.

John

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Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!

2003-10-25 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] 9.2 is out!
After ca. 6 hrs, I've still only got about 10% downloaded (with DSL). 
 Only got about 43 hours to go.  Wooo h!!  Not too impressed with
 Bittorent so far g.

I've had similar results with most of those napster-like things. I don't 
bother with them anymore, they're too slow. I spend so much time just 
waiting for the files to become available.

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Re: [newbie] DVD Ripping Question

2003-10-18 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] DVD Ripping Question
 home movies, I am helpless. But you can make vcds with those above
 programs and vcdimager.

OK I'll bite... 

I've only done a few dvd rips to avi, with some success using mencoder, 
gmencoder, or dvdrip. right now i'm attempting to do a vcd of a dvd using 
dvdrip. but i've not used vcdimager or vcdximager - are they stand alone 
programs or filters that other programs (such as dvdrip) use? is there a 
step by step guide to burning a vcd on mandrake?

i did another test run of a dvd (older classic film with monaural sound) 
last night but the audio is seriously out of step with the video (i.e., 
the previous scene's dialogue is spoken when the new scene is being 
displayed) ;).

I'm ripping collateral damage now to vcd with dvdrip. In about 13 hours or 
so it will be done. THe last time I tried doing it, i think it segfaulted 
or something :(.

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Re: [newbie] OT - possible job vacancy for some of you

2003-10-18 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about RE: [newbie] OT - possible job vacancy for some 
of you
also with the enterprise, voyager and deep space 9, none appear to be
 using either linux or windows, so this convo is way OT...  :-)

Yes, but: (I know I'm way behind in reading my email...) :)

What if Mr. Data were Microsoft Windows Compatible?

WORF:   Captain, there are three Romulan warships uncloaking dead ahead.

PICARD: On screen.

The main viewing screen changes to a pattern of horizontal lines, each 
only a  single pixel wide.

PICARD: Data, what's wrong here?

DATA:   Captain, the main viewscreen does not have sufficient video memory 
to display an image of this size.  May I suggest that you select a
lower resolution?

PICARD: Make it so.

The screen blanks, and then an image appears, with big, blocky square 
pixels. Three objects appear in the center, which could be Romulan
warbirds, but which actually look more like the aliens in Space Invaders.

PICARD: Data, open a hailing channel to the Romulans.

DATA:   Aye, sir.

Data picks up an hourglass from the floor beside him, turns it over, and 
places it on the console in front of him.  He punches some buttons on the 
console and sits motionless for several seconds. A flash of light 
blossoms from one of the Romulan ships on the viewscreen.

WORF:   Incoming plasma torpedo, Captain!

PICARD: Shields up!

DATA:   I'm sorry, Captain, but I am still attempting to complete your
last instruction.  I must ask you to wait until I have finished before 
you issue your next command.

PICARD: What on earth do you mean?  Data, this is *important*! I want
those shields up *right now*.

DATA:   I'm sorry, Captain, but I am still attempting to complete your
last instruction.  I must ask you to wait until I have finished before 
you issue your next command.

LAFORGE:Allow me, captain.  (to Data) Control-alt-delete, Data.

Data removes the hourglass from the console, and returns it to the floor.

DATA:   The Romulans are not responding to my hails. Press my nose to
cancel and return to Windows.  Pull my left ear to close this   
communications channel which is not responding.  You will lose
any information sent by the Romulans.

LaForge pulls Data's left ear.

PICARD: Shields...

There is a tremendous explosion.  The bridge shakes violently, and all 
the crew members are thrown to the floor.  A shower of sparks
erupts from Wesley Crusher's station at the helm, throwing Wesley back
away from the console.

PICARD: Up, Data!

DATA:   Aye, sir.

RIKER:  All decks, damage report!

WORF:   Captain, Ensign Crusher is injured.  He appears to be   
unconscious.

Data picks up the hourglass again, places it on his console, and punches 
some more buttons.  He waits a few seconds, then puts the
hourglass back on the floor.

DATA:   Shields are now up, captain.

PICARD: And not a moment too soon.  Worf, lock all phasers on the lead  
Romulan ship.

WORF:   Aye, sir.  (He punches buttons on the weapons console.)

PICARD: Mr. Data, take the helm, and prepare for evasive action.

DATA:   I am sorry, sir, but I do not have the proper device driver
installed for that console.

PICARD: Well, damn it, install the right one.

DATA:   Please insert Setup Implant #1 in my right nostril.

PICARD: Number One, where do we keep Data's setup implants?

RIKER:  I left them with Geordi.

LAFORGE:(in a surprised voice) What!!?  I thought you still had them!

PICARD: Data, don't you have device drivers stored in your internal
memory?

DATA:   Not found, sir.  Please insert Setup Implant #1 in my right  
nostril.

PICARD: Data, I don't *have* Setup Implant #1.

DATA:   Not ready reading right nostril.  Abort, Retry, Fail?

PICARD: Abort!

DATA:   Not ready reading right nostril.  Abort, Retry, Fail?

PICARD: Well, fail, then!

DATA:   Current nose is no longer valid.

Data walks over to the helm, and presses several buttons.  The ship 
lurches, the images of the Romulan warships suddenly shift  to one
side of the viewscreen, and a high-pitched whining noise is heard coming
from somewhere else in the ship.

LAFORGE:(alarmed) Data, what the hell are you doing?

PICARD: Number One, do we have a customer service number for Data?

RIKER:  Yes sir, but last time I tried to call them, I got put on hold  
for two hours before I was able to talk to anyone.  And that person 
wasn't knowledgeable about androids of Data's model. She specialized
in industrial control robots.

Suddenly, the lights all go out, the viewscreen goes blank, and all the 
usual noise of fans, motors, and so on whines to halt.
After a few seconds, the red emergency lights come on.  Data is
standing by the console, absolutely motionless.

PICARD: What's going on?

LAFORGE:(checking the helm console)  Lieutenant Data has caused a
General Protection Violation in the warp engine 

Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2

2003-09-07 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
How, specifically, are you adjusting your time zones?


OK. From kde panel right click on the clock. (S)how timezone has 
america/los angeles checked. But it's not America/Los angeles that it is 
displaying. Adjust Date time brings up a dialog box that tells me I'm in 
ndt, wtf that? it's 3:20 (i can't tell if that is supposed to be am or 
pm) from kde, and it's 10:50 am currently here (pdt). 

I now attempt to change it back to america/los angeles..

No change -- but switch to Local timezone from the clock menu, and 
guess what? I'm in HKT now!

It will briefly show the correct time, and then switch (within a second or 
two) to the incorrect timezone.

If I bring up kde again, it will be correct for a while -- longest i've 
had it be correct is maybe 1 day -- then inexplicably it will switch.


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Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2

2003-09-07 Per discussione dfox
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A few times after KDE cooker updates I've had to reset the
clock. R-click on it, adjust time an date, make sure format is set
to USA-english.

This is still going with cooker current as of last night -- rc1 + dozens 
of updates.

But apply seems to be the kick here that's necessary -- after changing 
the clock to show the correct time instead of HKT -- but apply does 
something funny -- it blanks the screen for several seconds, then the 
screen kicks back in. Is that supposed to happen?

Now my clock is OK, but who knows for how long. I still cannot figure out 
what causes it to switch all by itself. AFAIK it's not updating from 
cooker specifically that will do it.

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Re: [newbie] Converting sound files? (recording from cassette, pt2)

2003-09-07 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] Converting sound files? (recording 
from cassette, pt2)

sigh I guess I'm just gonna have to break down and buy a boom-box that
 has true line out.

What might work -- although I haven't tried it for cassettes, but I have a
walkman am/fm/cassette thing, with a stereo mini 1/8 plug with one end in 
the headphone jack and the other in the line-in on the sound card. For 
the limited stuff I've played with, it works all right, but the cassette 
doesn't work anymore... i may have to do the same thing richard did and 
repair my existing teac's.

i have two, one from ca. 1988, doesn't want to record or fast forward, the 
thing plays pretty well though. -- and the other one is a more recent 
three-head deck which won't play or record -- the tape goes through the 
system 2x normal speed when one presses play -- i tried to get this 
repaired a couple years back, no dice. 

so atm i use one deck to play, and the other one as a rewinder :)... for 
now though i don't play cassettes hardly at all and mostly play cd's .. 
most of my recording these days is to cd's from the net.

Thanks to Richard, Brant, The Other, and David for the replies. (and
 anyone else I missed!) :-)

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Re: [newbie] Printing Problems with KDE Programs

2003-08-14 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about [newbie] Printing Problems with KDE Programs
Hi Guys,

Had a weird problem develop over the weekend.  I am completely unable to
print from a number of programs - the one thing they seem to have in
common is that they are all KDE progs: Kover, KWrite KGhostview and

I just noticed this with Mandrake cooker 9.2 beta 2 and I am not sure yet 
if it's KDE specifically. This much I do know - kde programs that handle 
pdf won't handle pdf anymore. Forthermore printing (via acroread, which 
uses kprinter) puts the print job in kprint job viewer but that launches 
a perl that eventually (read real soon now) eats up all available ram and 
swap.

I'm updating via urpmi at the moment - maybe that will fix it. This is the 
first time I have noticed this issue...


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Re: [newbie] audio software

2003-08-03 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] audio software
Thanks, for the input. I have just started to use Audacity and it may
do what I want for editing, but as I move into using my computer for

I haven't tried anything intense with it -- such as multitrack 
recording/editing mixing, dj what have you.. As such I don't know
whether or not it is suitable. I recall chatting with the developer of 
another multitrack recorder s/w a number of years ago; he did not 
think linux was up to snuff for that, and I tried to convince him
otherwise. A lot has to do with sound card buffers and how fast your 
computer is. the idea is to record n tracks of audio directly on the hard 
drive. broadcast 2000 I think was the software, I think it is still 
around, and perhaps will work OK now. I haven't tried it in a very 
long time.

Much of what I do with audacity has been to clean up and edit wav files 
after I record them. Audacity will record on the fly but it took some 
doing to get it to record in stereo. The newer versions allow you to do 
that but you have to configure it to do so. For my needs, it works well, 
most of the time. the basic task -- recording audio live from the net 
(radio station show), editing it, publishing it as an .mp3 on usenet and 
burning it to a cd to listen to on the bus. (well, audacity won't do 
that, of course) :).  I misssed last night's show, though. In case 
anyone's wondering, Schickele mix by mr. p.d.q. bach himself :) from 
pri.

in 9.0 etc., audacity was problematic in that there were permission 
difficulties all over the place. I had to run the thing as root (I know, 
bad idea) just to get it to edit. 

Beware, audio files in native audacity form eat up large portions of your 
hard drive. 

I've just now am working from cooker 9.2 beta 1 and i'm getting back all 
the thnngs i need.


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Re: [newbie] urpmi update performed on Xine...

2003-07-17 Per discussione dfox
 
  xine: relocation error: xine: undefined symbol: xine_engine_set_param
 

Haven't seen that one yet. Installing xine is confusing,
since there are so many components and it is unclear to
me which to install.

What distro are you using? I was using 9.1/cooker until
recently. My recent addition (CD/DVD combo drive) seems
to have hosed it. I'm trying to get back in step with
9.0 and things are missing.



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Re: Re[2]: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?

2003-07-01 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re[2]: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?
Hello dfox

I found some info onthe web, but nothing foe Mandrake. Is there a
Mandrake versoina available?

I haven't seen one. glimpse is a fairly old tool afaik. 

Sorry about the lateness of the reply. 

urpmi (i have cooker  cooker contrib) doesn't find a glimpse rpm.

Looking for instance at sourceforge glimpse may be non-free. on 
sourceforge there is a similar tool 'competence' that is gpl.
unfortunately, it seems to be no longer supported.


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Re: Re[2]: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?

2003-07-01 Per discussione dfox
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I checked out glimpse. It is a text indexer, and can do some
sophisticated searches. It requires a plugin to handle Word  Excel

I see. I haven't explored this. If you look for 'indexing' on 
sourceforge.net there are a couple of hits. docsearcher seems to be able 
to look inside non-text files (excel,word, etc.) but it's in java and 
personally java to me means slow and bloated :). 

Compilation is not all that difficult. speaking from experience, keeping 
track of non-rpm sources and integrating them into mandrake-friendly 
installs is a little more tricky. of course, you can do the compile and 
install in /usr/local/bin.

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Re: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search tool?

2003-06-07 Per discussione dfox
Somebody scribbled about Re: Re[2]: [newbie] *Fast* file contents search 
tool?
But do these searches use the slocate database, or are they just brute
 force, ' look at every file' type searches?

Well, slocate is there to find file names really fast. Seems that the OP 
is rather interested in finding in files certain key words. slocate is a 
database of file *names*, not their contents. And if you're looking for a 
particular file name (foo.txt) that's the tool, otherwise it's back to 
using find ... | xargs grep to search for specific text.

find/grep is pretty fast but what the OP might be interested in is an 
indexing tool, especially if there are many text files, which there seems 
to be. One tool, for example is glimpse.

As an aside can we watch the subj lines? All these extra [2[ and stuff 
getting put in makes the posts scatter all through my inbox.



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[newbie] getting new mails in evolution

2003-03-29 Per discussione dfox
I'm using Evolution in 9.1 and brought in my big mail spool in 
/var/spool/mail/dfox (35 megabytes approximately) and it doesn't
seem to want to bring in new messages as they arrive. I can see how
to import the messages into Evelution in the first place (which I did)
but if I do that again, I'll get a rash of duplicate mails in my
evolution inbox. I didn't clear out the spool, and neither did
Evolutinn. And new mails just arrived.

Evolution is set to automatically bring in new messages every 10 minutes
but after having it open for sometime it doesn't appear to get new
messages.


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[newbie] lm-sensors

2002-10-27 Per discussione dfox

I instaled lm-sensors and configured it with sensors-detect, but I hardly 
believe the output is correct or if it is even sensing real values from 
the motherboard. I'm on an Athlon 1000 mhz system with a Asus A7V233 
motherboard, 256 megs of ram. I'm not a real techie when it comes to 
hardware but here's the output from sensors:

[rootm206-157 root]# sensors
as99127f-i2c-0-2d
Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at e800
Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter
VCore 1:   +1.82 V  (min =  +1.74 V, max =  +1.93 V)  
VCore 2:   +0.11 V  (min =  +1.74 V, max =  +1.93 V)   ALARM  
+3.3V: +3.53 V  (min =  +3.13 V, max =  +3.45 V)   ALARM  
+5V:   +5.02 V  (min =  +4.72 V, max =  +5.24 V)  
+12V: +12.31 V  (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.19 V)  
-12V: -12.08 V  (min = -13.19 V, max = -10.73 V)  
-5V:   -5.42 V  (min =  -5.24 V, max =  -4.74 V)   ALARM  
fan1: 5443 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) 
fan2: 4856 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) 
fan3: 2732 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)  ALARM  
temp1:   +28°C  (limit =  +60°C)  
temp2: +42.8°C  (limit =  +67°C, hysteresis =  +60°C)
temp3:+112.2°C  (limit =  +60°C, hysteresis =  +50°C)
vid:  +1.850 V
alarms:   
beep_enable:
  Sound alarm enabled

That's with setiathome running and more or less normal everything else. I 
ran cpuburn for a while and didn't see the temp2 raise more than 1/10 of 
a degree C. And that +112.5 isn't even plausible. 

Being non-metric, I usually don't  think too well in Celsius degrees, but 
a quick calculation on my trusty HP says the first temp is 82.4 degrees 
Fahrenheit; the second is roughly 109 degrees Fahrenheit. I seem to 
remember that it shouldn't get over 60 degrees Celsius, and I've heard 
that on Athlon's particularly, the read temperature is inaccurate to 
begin with, and you need to add ca. 10 degrees to get a ballpark CPU 
temperature.

AFAIK my box has not overheated although there was one time when the 
internal (i.e., BIOS) setup detected what might have been an overheat and 
then promptly shut things down. (I was doing something video-related at 
that time.) Anyway, my system has three case fans in addition to the 
motherboard fan, and obviously the fan on the CPU is there.

My ;/etc/modules.conf file:
probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx
alias eth0 tulip
above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1
probeall usb-interface usb-uhci
options snd_enable=1
alias char-major-178 mga_vid
options  snd_enable=1
options  snd_enable=1
options  snd_max_buffer_size=2 snd_enable=1
 
(no sensors stuff there?) I figured that's where it would put it.

Some lines from 'cat /proc/modules'

[rootm206-157 etc]# cat /proc/modules
w83781d19504   0 (unused)
i2c-proc7088   0 [w83781d]
i2c-isa 1224   0 (unused)
i2c-viapro  3920   0 (unused)
i2c-dev 4420   0
i2c-core   15332   0 [w83781d i2c-proc i2c-isa i2c-viapro 
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[newbie] Compilation difficulties - installation problem?

2002-10-13 Per discussione dfox


I'm getting the dreaded configure -- installation problem -- C compiler 
cannot create executables. message.

Upon further inspection, there seems to be a misconfiguration, and I get a few 
error messages from gcc.
ib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

These used to pop up when compiling parts of KDE and now pop up when compiling 
a simple C program.

I was never able to fix these - thought only maybe a reinstall would be the 
solution -- which I eventually did. I also noticed some issues with libstdc++ 
and missing files; I created symlinks for them in /usr/lib.

Now what is wrong? 






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[newbie] libvgagl?

2002-10-13 Per discussione dfox


Hello, what package provides libvgagl? I am (still) installing from 9.0 and 
had this working before in 8.1 (mplayer). I am rebuilding mplayer and came 
across this library not being there. 

I looked in rpmdrake for files matching libvga* and nothing came up.





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Re: [newbie] LM9 sound

2002-10-13 Per discussione dfox

Marcia writes:

Dear All,

Well, now that I reinstalled LM9 with my HP printer as parallel, that
works. I have the via chipset ac97 onboard sound and the sound is great

I wonder why the mp3 players (have you tried mpg123, for a common
denominator player) would not do sound while the cd players would. I haven't 
tried the cd players in Mandrake 9, but I have tried a few of its MP3 players. 
Xmms works fine, but noatun does not run, and kaboodle just sits there. In 
fact, the konqueror embedded play mode just sits there, doesn't get past 0:0 
on the time display. This worked in 8.1 even with the upgraded KDE.

I don't have AC97 (well I probably do, but it's disabled on the motherboard) 
and I use Soundblaster Live (emu10k1). One headscratcher this weekend - I had
to make sure to enable sound in Mandrake Control Center. It's not something 
that is obvious, and you have to click on Settings under the Soujnd module, 
and somewhere in there is a list of values to fill in. Enable should be set 
to 1.





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[newbie] Testing

2002-10-12 Per discussione dfox
Testing... just (re)installed Mandrake 9.0...




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[newbie] mandrake 9.0 - elm?

2002-10-12 Per discussione dfox
hey what happened to elm? it's got to be the fastest email reading/sending 
thing out there...

I had broken my install , tried to install 9.0 but failed early on, since then 
I haven't gotten email - if someone sees this can they reply to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I posted a test message here not too long ago and it shows up on the archive 
list, but new messages haven't arrived here. I figure I have to resubscribe 
because I was offline for a couple of days -- however subscribe messages 
aren't making it here either. I suspect something wrong or misconfigured with 
my postfix.




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Re: [newbie] resizing partitions

2002-10-01 Per discussione dfox

 anyone have any advice on how to resize linux partitions?

Well, partition magic might do it, but there are other free tools
that probably support the Linux filesystems better. i.e., ext2resize
(and physically ext2 is the same as ext3, minus the journal), so the
trick would probably be to turn off the journal, run ext2resize, and
then recreate the journals on the new resized partitions.

parted might do it too. I haven't needed to do this yet.




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Re: [newbie] ping flood?

2002-09-22 Per discussione dfox

 If your machine is reasonably current (300Mhz or faster, 128MB+ RAM),
 then I would have to suspect a distributed attack via a virus or worm.

Maybe. There were a large number of different, seemingly random, hosts
all trying port 4156. Portsentry seems to be the way to get rid of these,
and all the hosts it reported are now blocked. I just had to do a little
reading and edit the config file. 

I'm back to normal, at least for now :).




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[newbie] ping flood?

2002-09-21 Per discussione dfox

Gretts *

I came home today to my box noticing that a large number of httpd
processes being spawned (this isn't a server, at least not really),
and for the last hours or so my box is real slow when it comes to
using the net.

I'm on a DSL line and am getting some errors connecting to sites
and such. I installed tcpdump and am getting lines like:

17:57:50.710986 210.95.36.130.4156  m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com.4156:  udp 41 (DF)
17:57:50.711030 m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com  210.95.36.130: icmp: m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com 
udp port 4156 unreachable [tos 0xc0] 
17:57:50.737316 158.182.6.120.4156  m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com.4156:  udp 41 (DF)
17:57:50.737361 m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com  158.182.6.120: icmp: m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com 
udp port 4156 unreachable [tos 0xc0] 
17:57:50.742490 

How can I fix this? If it's a ping storm how do I stop it? I figure
it has something to do with iptables but I'm a real newbie where this
type of thing is concerned. After looking at tcpdump for a few minutes
it is not apparent that a single site is trying to connect, but 
a large number of different sites. They all have one thing in common,
though, this port 4156.

I also noticed when looking in /var/log a couple of lines that look
specifically like breakin attempts within the last week...

Sep 16 19:17:04 m206-157 rpc.statd[1008]: gethostbyname error for ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^Y÷ÿ
¿^Y÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%236x%n%137x%n%10x%n%192x%n
\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220
etc... that is very suspicious - that looks like an exploit.

Between 9/16 and today nothing suspicious; there is always the lone
ftp or nntp attempt but they fail and it doesn't impact performance.
But today, it's like someone is flood pinging my device - the net
lights are constantly on.

I also saw this today:

Sep 21 10:03:59 m206-157 kernel: Neighbour table overflow.
Sep 21 10:03:59 m206-157 last message repeated 9 times
Sep 21 10:04:04 m206-157 kernel: NET: 3050 messages suppressed.
Sep 21 10:04:04 m206-157 kernel: Neighbour table overflow.
Sep 21 10:04:09 m206-157 kernel: NET: 8192 messages suppressed.
Sep 21 10:04:09 m206-157 kernel: Neighbour table overflow.
Sep 21 10:04:14 m206-157 kernel: NET: 7009 messages suppressed.
Sep 21 10:04:14 m206-157 kernel: Neighbour table overflow.



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Re: thread hijack! was Re: [newbie] offsite backup

2002-09-10 Per discussione dfox

 can windows rsync upload to a linux machine?  i do want a lot.

I don't know if that's possible. I haven't done much file transfer
between windows and Linux. I have done anonymous ftp from windows
to linux though. Works just like it's supposed to, although it's
not the best way.

Two other possibilities exist; one would be a Samba connection between
the Windows and Linux machine, and the other would be 'pscp' - a secure
remote copying setup. scp et al are derived (or part of) from Open SSH,
and the Putty setup (which I use all the time for ssh from windows
boxes) is very easy and fits just on a floppy: in fact, all the utilities
fit on a floppy. Personally, I have not set things up for pscp yet but
that's been on my to do list to get some mp3s and such up from my bro's
box, which runs Windows.

Of the three, ftp is probably easiest to set up - you may already have
it enabled. 

(best-before dating: is that like best used before installation?) :)




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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-10 Per discussione dfox

 This app seems to need a lot of optimization, as the RPM packages did
 work slower. and to answer your question: nope. i never encoded using

PRMs temd to be conservative sometimes. And mencoder does a ton of
computations. I don't know how long it would take on a reasonably-
powered box with mencoder, but my brother did some dvd encodings with
some Windows software; he said it took about 18 hours to rip a DVD, on
a Pentium 3/700 (I think that's what he has).

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Re: [newbie] MP3 ripper

2002-09-09 Per discussione dfox

 Has anyone had any luck with compiling and using mencoder (MPlayer)  with
 this lame-encoder RPM? It's not a question of whether you think it will or

It appears people have :). 

I have never tried mencoder - I don't have any dvd hardware on the
computer - otherwise I would give it a try :). mplayer does play
video cd's and avi's, which is primarily what I'm interested in
right now.

You probably should search the mailing list archive on MPlayer's
web site (www.mplayerhq.hu) for relevant postings and questions.

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Re: [newbie] offsite backup

2002-09-09 Per discussione dfox

 Does any one have information on how to do offsite backup.  I would like
 to backup windows and linux machines.  I have a large SQL and exchange

If you just want a 'raw' backup of the dirs, then you probably want
rsync over an ssh connection, at least for the Linux system. That way
the data gets mirrored over to your drive, but can't be peeked at
whilst it is being copied.

rsync is fast and is also good when there is little change between
revs of the database. This may be important if the network connection
is slow or the amount of data to copy is large.

I'm not sure at all what options exist in windows, if any, barring
extra addon stuff.

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Re: [newbie] Harddisk questions

2002-09-09 Per discussione dfox

 Run (as root) 'hdparm -i /dev/hdx' on it (also try 'hdparm -I' to=20
 read the drive info directly from the drive's firmware), for example

OK. I'll bite - I have my /dev/hda and /dev/hdb set with 32-bit on
and dma on. 

I do an 'hdparm -i /dev/hdb' and see that my drive (IBM deskstar
30 gig) is capable of udma5, but there's an asterisk in front.

[root@m206-157 root]# hdparm -i /dev/hdb

/dev/hdb:

 Model=IBM-DTLA-307030, FwRev=TX4OA50C, SerialNo=YKDYKTJ8513
 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=40
 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1916kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=-66060037, LBA=yes, LBAsects=60036480
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
 PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 
 DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5 
 AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255)
 Drive Supports : ATA/ATAPI-5 T13 1321D revision 1 : ATA-2 ATA-3 ATA-4 ATA-5 


And what (if relevant) is the difference between udma and mdma? I should
add that I have not put this drive on ATA-100 because of reported issues
with that interface - this may also be a non-issue right now, but I 
don't think it was ca March of 2001, and I already have an older 
drive (Maxtor) on /dev/hda. So, I didn't want to hose things *too* 
much.

Needless to say, I suppose I can try better modes (does hdparm
display which? it seems just to say that I'm using DMA, but doesn't
mention which). 

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Re: [newbie] defrag and linux

2002-09-06 Per discussione dfox

 WILL Screw ME to hell  back.  They also screw linux most times.  Esp. if 
 they do a surface scan  repair job.  Diskeeper is a little better from 

Hmm. I recall borrowing a copy of some commercial drive repair 
software - supposedly able to find and recover marginal sectors on
a drive. Anyway, the drive I had was a Seagate 125 megger (this was
back in 1992 or thereabouts). Anyhow, the software started out and then
quit several hours later 2/3 of the way through. I was left with a 
pretty much damaged drive: part of the disk was good, the rest of it 
was very prone to errors. Unfortunately, I was just getting introduced
to Unix at that time (imagine trying to maintain a partition on a
somewhat marginal drive, without the bad sector detection/avoidance --
at least back then, it was absent). :(

Glad I tossed that drive and got a Maxtor soon after. :) I installed
a (very old) distro of linux on that puppy and since then - no MS 
anywhere on my drives.

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Re: [newbie] dsl trouble

2002-09-05 Per discussione dfox

 Hello, Good after-noon I have a problem I currently have aol-dsl, so to use the 
service in linux I installed vmware, and created windows their. But I would like to 
know is their a way to combine the connection from the vmware onto my linux. I'm 
currently running Mandrake 8.2 with kde-3.0.3.
  

How about getting a new DSL provider? Where are you located?

 
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Re: [newbie] Version for dual 133?

2002-09-05 Per discussione dfox

   I have a dual Pentium 133 with 72 MB of RAM.  What 
 is the latest version of Mandrake that I could run on it?  

9.0 is still i586 based - there should be no problems running
it. KDE or gnome may be too much stress but that's true no matter
what distro. I used to run Mandrake on a P-100 - up until March 2001,
that was kind of painful - even with 9t megs, but window managers and
what ever else is running is the limiting factor.

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Re: [newbie] OT: does anyone know how to track the source of an email?

2002-09-05 Per discussione dfox

 Received: from Vwrxub ([208.57.131.119]) by
 out003.verizon.net
   (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09

Without more context, it's hard to say. It's possible that it came
from somewhere in verizon.net. Sending a LART [1] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
might get some response. More than likely it's going to respond with
an automatic thank you type message with little or no input. I haven't
read the news.admin.net-abuse.email newsgroup recently to tell how
Verizon is with their complaint responses.

[1] Loser Attitude Re-Adjustment Tool (hammer). :)

(coined in net.abuse type newsgroups since probably longer than I've
been on the Net). 

It's quite possible that 'verizon.net' is forged as well. Middle Received:
lines (i.e, not the From:) are probably less suspect to being faked -
but that's likely debatable, and I'm not an expert at reading headers,
although I've picked up some experience along the way.




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Re: FW: [newbie] Gnome, or KDE

2002-09-05 Per discussione dfox

 I use the following programs in the same time usually:
 vmware (running win98), mplayer, xmms, krusader, openoffice
 
 The cpu load in KDE 2.2 is around 89%, in gnome 1.4 around 31%(or even less)
 The machine is a 1,2GHz celeron with 256MB RAM

I think it may not be a KDE versus gnome issue - and even if it is, then
switching over to KDE 3.0.3 may be a good choice. I've been using KDE
mostly (since about pre-1.0). KDE does require more horsepower than does
gnome - at least from my experience. Of course, this is more noticeable
on slower systems -- but I'm hesitant to believe that KDE in and of it-
self is responsible for the difference in cpu load. It's more likely that
some process (and it may be unique to your kde startup) is using up more
CPU than it should be. 

My app load is somewhat similar - I don't normally have open office 
loaded, but it itself takes up a pretty fair amount of resources, and
maybe what you're seeing is overloading because of the smaller memory 
footprint that gnome has vs. KDE, and that's probably noticeable on
a 256 meg RAM system. Still that doesn't explain (at least to me) an
increased CPU load. I have 256 megs of RAM also, and my 'normal' 
load is mozilla, konqueror, a couple of konsoles/xterms, xmms usually,
mplayer, setiathome, and so forth.

 T.



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Re: [newbie]

2002-09-04 Per discussione dfox

 Can any one tell me how i can setup Konqueror so I can browse the local
 network like you do under ms windows. Or is that not possable

You should be able to click on Services (the yellow star) and then
go to lan browser and then (if things are set up correctly) view
the other systems on the network. 

On mine - I don't have a network, but strangely enough it tells
me that it can't connect to localhost. That of course is defined
elsewhere (/etc/hosts). I can of course ping localhost so some-
where there is a miscommunication between konqueror and the
services it uses to go to the LAN.

Konqueror does use a special notation lan:// to denote machines
on the local area network.

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Re: [newbie] defrag and linux

2002-09-02 Per discussione dfox

 
 This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
 
 =_1030981495-3326-399
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
 dear all,
 i have a laptop with a winME partition and a linuxM (8.2) partition,
 they lived and grown up without problem until when i decided to make a
 defrag of the windows partition, this cause a big problem to linux, at

Ouch - was this prior to install? Maybe you hit the wrong partition. Linux
partitions don't need to be defragging, and if yuu had a linux on
a windows partition (but then Mandrake doesn't support this) then 
defragging would indeed cause problems. The physical location of
your kernel is stored in the boot sector someplace, and that means
anytime you replace it, or move it around (which defragging would 
do) yuou need to rerun the lilo / grub programs.

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Re: [newbie] permissions hell

2002-08-30 Per discussione dfox

 
 This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
 
 =_1030741952-3326-218
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm running Mandrake 7.1 (I know I know, long story..) and I'm having what 
 I think is a permissions problem.

What are the permissions on the /dev device entries (/dev/cdrom, etc)?
That's usually a clue - if they are set incorrectly, then you won't be
able to access them as a user.

/dev/cdrom should be permissions 440 (i.e., as root, do chmod 440 /dev/
cdrom) - because the owner should be able to access the cdrom as well as
the group (more on that later) but 'outsiders' i.e., the world, if you
have any remote users - shouldn't have access to the 'raw' device. Now
they *can* have access to the directory where the cdrom is mounted, and 
IIRC that doesn't necessarily mean they need read access to the device.

Lots of setups do things differently, and I may not be quoting the
party line here - but it's your system :). My rationale is based on
having users that can have access to the device (other than root) such
as a disk or audio group. That is why I set the group read
permissions on. If you yourself as a user are added to that group, then
you get to use the device.

What complicates matters is that (I think) somehow the permissions are
being reset - and further complications arise if you use auto-mounting
deamons and the like. Personally, I just like the idea of mounting a new
CD as root, and then letting the user use the mount point, rather than
having direct access to the device. 



 I need the floppy drive(No network yet, coming soon)
 So smarty that I am I pull out the books. Yes books.
 Then I edit /etc/group and make my user part of all the groups that look 
 entertaining, disk,cdrom,floppy,users.

I think you're on the right track. 


root:x:0:root
bin:x:1:root,bin,daemon
daemon:x:2:root,bin,daemon,ldap

(snips) (here I only have one user, i.e., me, but this should be enough

cdrom:x:22:dfox
usb:x:43:dfox
cdwriter:x:80:dfox
audio:x:81:dfox
users:x:100:dfox

etc. 

 Doesn't help a bit. Finally in a fit of desparation I add myself to root. 
 Which also doesn't help a bit.

That doesn't really help - but other unices have a 'wheel' but Linux
doesn't really have it per se. It can no doubt be added, or even faked,
if need be.

 So I'm stumped, I can mount and unmount but not use... HELP!

OK - now what are the permissions on /mnt/cdrom? Remember it's not
simply the permissions on the device - a user needs to be able to
see the files, for instance in /mnt/cdrom. If that's not also accessible
by the user, it won't make a difference if he's in the cdrom or the 
floppy group.

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Re: [newbie] pathetic test message

2002-08-29 Per discussione dfox

 please don't read this... if you do precious, important body parts will 
 begin to fall off and you'll become and imasculate troll ozzing snot 

oh no - 

# rpm -e toes-1.0.0

oops


which: no feet in (/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin)



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Re: [newbie] Can't find fpc compiler

2002-08-25 Per discussione dfox

 I've read the man page, the readme, the faq, and the freepascal.org
 site, but everything takes for granted that the compiler will work after
 installing the rpm. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?

One would expect that 'fpc' is indeed installed somewhere, perhaps
/usr/bin, with the other support files somewhere else (/usr/share/fpc
or someplace like that). Can you verify that 'fpc' is in /usr/bin?

I suppose you tried this multiple times, and I'll assume you installed
the software from an RPM, so it would make sense that the files would
be stored in a sane place. 

There are probably three possibilities:

/usr/bin not in PATH - but I find that highly unlikely; otherwise not
much else would work. It could be that the installation directory is
not in your path, or the install is broken in some respect (i.e., by
not placing the compiler binary or at least a link to it in /usr/bin).

you installed the source rpm by mistake, so you'd have to compile it,
but that doesn't seem that likely. Did the filename end in src.rpm?

The other possibility might explain the situation -- but it's rather
arcane. Under some situations I have noticed that 'bash' does not
see updates as new programs are added - but this is not something that
is expected to happen, as it is with csh and its derivatives. csh's
behavior is such that you have to type 'rehash' to get it to reread
the files in $PATH. As far as I can tell, it's not supposed to be 
necessary when using bash, but there are a few occasions where I've
had to do just that -- (type 'rehash') in order for the shell to
recognize the new command. I don't know why this is -- maybe it's
something having to do with he buffers / vfs file layer.

At any rate, typing 'rehash' at the command prompt (or exit  relogin)
might actually work. It can't hurt.



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Re: [newbie] I do miss...

2002-08-10 Per discussione dfox

 One thing a really miss is the tile-windows-vertically for when I want to 
 look at two files at once.  Is there any way to get this?  Less frequently I 
 used the horizontal option, but I guess that both are possible or impossible.

Anne - have you tried seeing the files inside konqueror? It allows you to 
split the view either left/right and top/bottom. And you can save view
profiles for different tasks.
 
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Re: [newbie] copying a floppy ...

2002-08-10 Per discussione dfox

   i set up mandrake to boot from a floppy and i would like to make a copy to   
 be safe. i copied the info on the original to a directory then

Best way to do a copy of this kind is to use dd and copy the disc whole,
without regard to what's on it, or filesystem type.

$ dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/tmp/floppy

then insert a blank, good floppy

$ dd if=/tmp/floppy of=/dev/fd0

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Re: [newbie] CUPS driver for Star Gemini-10X

2002-07-28 Per discussione dfox

 I am trying to get my venerable Star Gemini-10X working under LM 8.1 and 
 CUPS but cannot find an appropriate driver. The Gemini-10X is a 9 pin 

You have one of those too ;). I got mine early on in 1984 (back then
I was using a TRS890). The printer doesn't work anymore, but IIRC, it's
pretty close to 9 pin Epsons of the era. The epson 'emulation' 
(basically it's an MX-80 clone) is very close to Epson, but there are
subtle differences when using graphics -- specifically the dot widths
are spaced differently with Epson as compared to the 10X. This led me
to briefly contribute printer definition files when I was working at
Symantec back in 1986.

The printer expired long before I was introduced to Linux, but I 
think yuo will have some cussess witht he Epson 9 pin drivers: 
specifically 'eps9high' in GhostScript. I recommend starting 
small, perhaps try printing test pages with Ghostscript using that
driver. If it works correctly, you might try CUPS with the
appropriate printer driver. You may get discernable vertical spaces
in the output using the Epson 9 pin drivers though - that's the 
effect of the spacing differences in the Gemini 10X.



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Re: [newbie] Audio Streaming

2002-07-27 Per discussione dfox

   Can any of you recommend me any streaming audio server?. I have a radio
 station and I want to stream it via Internet.

http://www.iceast.org . I haven't personally tried it. Shoutcast and
live365 are other possibilities, but am not sure if they offer linux
capable streamers - it may not even be relevant in live365 because
as far as I know the content is hosted on their servers, not on your
computer directly.

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Re: [newbie] [Q] Kernel compilation

2002-07-18 Per discussione dfox

 I'm a little afraid by all the questions I have to answer. As my system
 does work properly for now, I think it would be easier to have the

The current configuration is stored in a file /usr/src/linux/.config. You
might want to copy that to another file before you make a new kernel. And,
there are options in make menuconfig or make xconfig to save or load
configurations from files.



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Re: [newbie] file transfer utility?

2002-07-18 Per discussione dfox

 I'm a newbie and wish to transfer files from my networked Mandrake 8.2
 machine to my home account on the university server.  I'm sure mandrake

ftp?

Well, ftp will do the job and there are plenty of variants of it around,
my favorite (non-graphical) is 'ncftp'. An RPM is included in the 
distribution.

If you're using KDE, and can look at your home directory on the university
server with konqueror, then you can just drag and drop files from your 
computer over to the server.




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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice

2002-07-18 Per discussione dfox

 Running /tmp/install/install --help returns only five options:

Maybe, but you're not running install. You should be running setup, and it
does have a -net option.

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Re: [newbie] Printing help pages

2002-07-18 Per discussione dfox

 I can't remember any other apps that I can't print.  My printer has two 
 set-ups defined.  Some apps let me choose, and some use what I presume is a 

My feeling is that if you can print from one kde app you should be able to
print from any other, as they all use the same printing subsystem. I'm 
guessing you're using CUPS, is that true? Try printing first from kedit
or some other lightweight app. If the print choice is greyed out in Kedit
as well as in the helper app then there's something amiss in KDE's idea
of what printer is set up. Your existing printer setup should appear under
System - Printing Manager in the KDE Control Center app. FWIW I'm using
a bjc250.

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Re: [newbie] What have I done?

2002-07-18 Per discussione dfox

 Keyboard input is no problem.  Moving around with a word processor, for 
 instance, is no problem.  It's anything that requires loading time.

Even more interestign. I hope your PATH is set to something simple and
you're not scanning all those mount points looking for stuff during a
load - that would really complicate things. /mnt/anything shouldn't
be in your PATh. I doubt it is, but I think we're on the right track
in helping you diagnose your slowdown - and it seems related to disk
subsystems.





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Re: [newbie] What have I done?

2002-07-18 Per discussione dfox

 attempt to mount the usb smartcardreader, for instance.  I can't see any that 
 look like remote mounts, though.

Anne - have you tried 'mount' by itself in a console? It'll list every-
thing that is currently mounted. My guess is that if there is a remote
NFS partition mounted somewhere, there will be a noticeable delay in
mount's execution itself.

 mtab

That shows current mounts - fstab shows those that will get mounted on
startup.

 none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43 0 0

That's a lot of mounts - but none look like remote mounts to me
either. Is there something in that usb? 

When you browse (or cd into) any of the mount points, are there 
noticeable delays in processing? 

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Re: [newbie] OpenOffice

2002-07-16 Per discussione dfox

 Am I correct in assuming it's impossible to do a network
 install with the RPM?

I haven't tried with the RPM. My guess is that it would do a 
standard install in /opt, and then the user would have to do
the network install to put the files in his home directory.

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Re: [newbie] What have I done?

2002-07-15 Per discussione dfox

 During the evening my machine has got slower and slower, and now it takes 
 almost a minute to open any application.  I have logged out, and even halted, 
Hmm. There might be an application or task that's swallowed a lot of
RAM on your system. I would run 'top' in an xterm or konsole and see
if there's anything that is eating up a good deal of RAM.

Sometimes it's a good idea to logout and log back in - in other words
getting completely out of X and back to console mode, and restarting
X. Ordinarily, this action is a pretty drastic one.

 During the bootup messages I briefly saw something to the effect that a 
 compressed image had been found and was being uncompressed.  Is this 

That's normal - the kernel image is compressed to save space.  By that
comment, I assume you rebooted your machine - now did it again start to
slow down?

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Re: [newbie] What have I done?

2002-07-15 Per discussione dfox

 To the untutored eye everything looks reasonable.  

Yeah, I'd say that. 

 The Mem used is creeping up all the time.

Normally, that's OK as well, since Linux wants to use all the available
memory -- what's not active for programs is used for disk and for cache,
which is a good idea, since unused RAM is wasted.

But having the system slow down to a crawl is certainly not normal. Some
people on the list suggest the offender may be jabberd but I'm not sure
that's something you installed (do a ps aux | grep jabber). jabberd is
something that is known to gradually swallow RAM -- on my machine it
was eating about 200 megs (out of 256) after about 3 days.

It may be something else that's eating the memory -- that's why I suggested
running top.

 Drastic it may be, but I may have to.  Could you elaborate, please?

Well, you just click on 'logout' from KDE which will kill all KDE and
X related processes, leaving you at a console shell prompt (if you start
kde with 'startkde').

 The KDE startup was extremely slow and everything else has been slow since.
 
 The system is almost unusable.

Ouch. How long has it been since you restarted? 

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Re: [newbie] Ten Things Wrong with Linux

2002-07-12 Per discussione dfox

 i. I don't agree with the argument in 1, which carries the danger of=20
 falling into the the 'designed for Internet Explorer' trap; the more=20

Neither do I. konwqueror is pretty good, and so is mozilla. Basically I
use either one, depending on what I need to do. And IE can't browse
cvs like konqueror can ;) (although I need to figure out just how to
do that.)

I haven't had konqueror crash ofteh, but only once in a while -- compare
that with IE's track record on Windows :)... when it comes to his point
about 'stuck' processes well, maybe -- these two last konqueror sessions
strangely enough weren't killable by 'kill' or other methods, and I 
had to exit out of X and get back in to free them up. But that's a
rare exception - most times 'stuck' processes aren't stuck. 

In response to issue #2 - fsck -- with reiserfs, I've never had to do
that. Even Windows forces a filesystem check upon reboot upon an
improper shutdown. His point about having to do it on servers is
untenable, simply because you don't reboot servers, and if they go down,
it's probably due to a back hoe :) or power failure. And if you have
to do it, it's a feature, if you have a FS that checks; your data is
more valuable than the time it takes to fsck your disk.

He makes a good point about needing to fix via 'fsck' with its arcane
'fix inode' prompts --- but that is one fsck in maybe a hundred or more
where it has to drop to manual mode. For the Joe Average user, it may
be difficult to understand, but most things are fixed by answering 'y'
to the prompt. His comment would weigh better if he contrasted it with
what hoops a user of DOS (FAT) filesystems has to do when encountering
a disk full of cross linked clusters. This type of scenario is really
an administrator and not a user issue. 
 
 ii. 4 is no issue with Mandrake; the 'What to do?' menu item is=20
 excellent and a simple solution.

Yeah, and the K menu (or the gnome foot) is just as featureful in
offering choices as is the Windows start menu or right click on the
desktop. Of course, kde offers more things. One can easily edit the
menus to a more 'english' like set of tasks (like saying 'write a
letter' instead of 'kword'). Part of the learning experience is learning
what application does what, which admittedly is something that is not
always apparent by looking at the names of the programs. But windows
doesn't have 'apropos' either. :(

As far as printing is considered - messing with /etc/printcap is not
all that necessary anymore as it used to be. cups is very easy IMHO
to set up.

 iv. 9 is resolved by nedit, which he evidently isn't aware of.

And vi, and emacs. He just hasn't figured out the right keystrokes or
modes to set word wrap -- like M-x text-fill-mode in emacs.

 v. 10, although a crowd-puller when implemented, is becoming irrelevant=20
 with the advent of flat panel displays; this one runs at 1280x1024=20

naa you just run two copies of X at different resolutions and toggle 
between them :). Seriously I don't see it being an issue. 

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Re: [newbie] Sound

2002-07-12 Per discussione dfox

 and onboard video. Everything worked right away including the the network 
 card, except for some sound. I can play a music CD with no problem and here 

Marcia - hey great that you got a new computer :). It's faster than 
mine :(.

Anyway, if xmms doesn't work maybe the kde media player, or playing
a sound file in konqueror itself, might work. I don't remember ever
having an issue with arts conflicts here - my current sound card is
a sb live 5.1, and before that I had a Mozart iSA card, which worked
fairly well most of the time (for a while I used OSS sound drivers).

I think you have to type 'artswrapper xmms' but not having to need that
myself, I haven't had to figure that out. 

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Re: [newbie] IBM Hard Drives?

2002-07-09 Per discussione dfox

 Maxtor?!?  All but 2 I've been around (at work) have died at one time or
 another.  I would never buy a Maxtor or Quantum.

Well, I admit to having less than perfect luck with the Maxtor 1.6 gig
drive I bought in 1996 - it seems to have developed one or two bad
sectors since installation -- but the previous drive I got back in 1993
is probably still 100% good. I had to take it out because of space
restrictions, but after six or seven years of continuous operation (I
got it in 1993) it was still working perfectly.

I know people with Quantums (Quanta?) who have had several problems, and
also people who have had issues with two different manufacturers drives
in the system. Right now I have the aforementioned Maxtor, plus an IBM
Deskstar 30GB I got in October 2000. The IBM is flawless.






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Re: [newbie] hard disk speed.

2002-07-09 Per discussione dfox

 find anything. Any software to find out?

Wouldn't hdparm report the speed? after a brief check, it doesn't
seem to report it. Oh well. You might try the specs on the manufacturer's
web page. Many IDE drives are 7200; it's a common speed, Some are 1,
and a few older ones spin at 5300 or so. 

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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.0

2002-07-09 Per discussione dfox

 I'm curious about something. compared to the upgrading of KDE from 
 version(s) 1.x.x to 2.x.x the upgrade went rather smoothly once you had 

Agreed that 2.2.x to 3.0 beta was a minor pain, due mostly to a lot of
dependency conflicts. I have found that upgrading the 3.0 beta1 to 3.0.1
and now 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 goes rather smoothly. I just did that this past
weekend, and it was probably the cleanest upgrade I've done in some
time.

After getting all the 8.1 rpms from ftp.kde.org (or a mirror) one
just has to rpm -Uvh lib* then follow that with kdelibs  kdelibs-devel,
kdebase  kdebase-devel, then the rest of the packages. It helps to
include both the base RPM and its 'devel' RPM if present together on
the command line - otherwise you get dependency conflicts.

Going from 2.x to 3.0 was a bit difficult, but not impossible - but
resolving some of the conflicts was somewhat painful. Removing the
old package(s) following a install seems to have been the way to
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Re: [newbie] Windows Games - QT

2002-07-07 Per discussione dfox

Both Xine and mplayer came out with versions last week that play
 QuickTime movies better than Apple's native player (which also works
 better with X-over/fake_windows, than under Billy's Winwoes ;)  Video

This intrigues me, as I haven't found quicktime support yet. I went to
the mplayer site, downloaded the current tar (20020707) file, compiled
and installed it. All I can get is the audio of a .mov file, no
video. I get diagnostics about an unsupported video codec, and I tried
the suggestions (update ~/.mplayer/codecs.conf) and read docs on 
codecs, but no Quicktime. I pulled up a .mov off of apple.com/quicktime
just for testing (movie trailer of the Two Towers).

Did yours work out of the box? Did you CVS ? I imagine what I got is the
same (or a snapshot) of the latest stuff from CVS.

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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-07 Per discussione dfox

 Not true. 'make install' copies the kernel (not plops) to /boot, make
 syslinks for vmlinuz  etc,  modifies lilo.config. You need to read the
 complete message. Does RTFM stand for 'Read the Fine message'??

Perhaps there's a difference in the Mandrake source kernels, rather
than those from kernel.org? I usually get my kernels from the
latter, and that's the way I learned. 







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Re: [newbie] System.map

2002-07-06 Per discussione dfox

 System.map2.4.28mine and change that link to make 
 it point to my file.

Right...

  how am i supposed to keep both kernels?
 i've checked lilo.conf and the boot sections seem
 to have no reference to these files...

There's a vmlinuz symlink that points to somethimg like
vmlinuz-2.4.xx-1.mdk. What you probably should do is rename
the old symlink to something like vmlinux-old, and create a
new symlink that points to the new kernel in /boot. 

 what do i have to add in order to make lilo choose
 the corresponding system.map whenever i choose a kernel 
 to boot?

I don't think Lilo chooses the system map but there should
be a corresponding system map for each kernel - you'd use lilo
to select which kernel.

Look for a stanza (/etc/lilo.conf) beginning with 'image' that has vmlinuz
in it. If you linked the new kernel to vmlinuz, that's the kernel that's
going to boot. You can just copy those lines and make another stanza that
uses 'vmlinuz-old' or what have you, which will select the other (or
default) kernel.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] more BS from RIAA (was longer)

2002-07-06 Per discussione dfox

 Good point, except that the price pretty much stabilised in the 1970's. 
 What changed was production costs - it is now laughably cheap to produce 

Amen to that. 50 cents (or less) per blank CD and a few minutes' time
is all that is required to produce a CD. Blank/recordable CD's for
music are higher but no different than the disks for 'computer' use. The
blank music CDs are artificially higher because of piracy scares. Even
so, that's nothing compared to the cost to 'stamp' a vinyl or master
a CD not too long ago - manufacturing might make the per-cd or per-LP
cost cheap, but only in bulk, and only after amortizing the cost for
expensive duplicating equipment. 

 1982, any more than, were anyone to make one, a 100MHz CPU should cost 
 the same as one from that era.

Which doesn't cost all that much to make - at least not in quantity. Most
of the cost is in development.

Interesting tidbit - back in October 2000 I paid about US $165 for a
30 gig hard drive. Not nearly a great deal by today's standards, but
that's about 1500 (!) 20 meg drives, of which I bought 1 (my first HD) in
1986, for about $300.


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Re: [newbie] Strange crashes when idle

2002-07-06 Per discussione dfox

 maybe add a few more megs to be on the safe side, I have noticed some boxes 
 with 2, 256 meg strips may count as 510megs ram or 516 megs ram. not sure 

I noticed that (with 256 megs RAM) that I really have only 248 usable --
8M is showing up as 'reserved' by the kernel. That's with mandrake 8.1, and
I haven't noticed that before -- usually it should 'reserve' about 384
K - because of the unusable region in pc low memory. My best guess its
shared video, but I've got a Matrox Millenium with 16 megs RAM here and
I didn't notice the missing 8M until somewhat recently. 

 true enough about heat, probly the most common cause of truly random 
 lockups especially if you include broke CPU fans in the heat catagory, 
 however taking the sides off, while an acceptable temporary test method, in 

Doesn't removing the top (or side?) negate one of the purposes of fans -
that is to pull out the heat from inside?






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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.0.2 out

2002-07-06 Per discussione dfox

 Most of the fixes appear to be library-based; at least in my case=20
 Konqueror is more stable (no more 'bomb' popups) :)

I've only been running it for about a day -- downloaded and installed it
this morning, in fact. KDE3 is pretty easy to upgrade/install - the tech-
nique I use basically starts at the lower level things (libarts, libqt,
that sort of thing) and finishes at the higher-end packages. If a depend-
ency is broken, repeat the last 'rpm -Uvh' with the file plus the file
it is whining about. And, it's best to upgrade with the base + the devel
RPMs in pairs (like rpm -Uvh kdebase3-* installs both base and devel
packages.)

It's hard to tell if konqueror is more stable. Today I had one or more
sessions lock on me. Perhaps it was the web page I was visiting, but kill -9
wouldn't kill the processes, and so I had to logout of KDE and restart it
to remove them.

 http://download.kde.org/stable/3.0.2/Mandrake/8.2/

I'm using the 8.1 rpms - minor point. Shouldn't be that big of a difference.

One thing I noticed was kstars now segfaults when in 3.0 beta something it
seems to have worked fine, although I didn't really test it hard.





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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-06 Per discussione dfox

 ok...now you've really got my curiosity peeked. once you get the files 
 on the tape, how in the world does one browse, find, and then get the 

Well, tar will do it for you:

tar xvf /dev/st0 filespec

filespec can be a wildcard selection, or a directory name, just like
extracting files from a regular tar file except the tar 'file' is 
really on the tape instead of a tar archive on the disk.

What makes interactive selection difficult is the sequential nature
of the tape - you have to read through all of the tape to get the
last file on it.

dump is supposedly better but I haven't played with it enought to be
skilled in its use. It can also be confusing.





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Re: [newbie] Strange crashes when idle

2002-07-05 Per discussione dfox

 Still trying to find the source of this memory leak in my system. I 
 reinstalled XFree86 4.2 from the binaries off of their website, but this 
 has not made any apparent difference.

A good way to check for leaks is to run top in a separate window for
some length of time. You should be able to detect the leak - one or
more processes will continuae to increase in size steadily over time.

Note if you have jabberd installed - that's been confirmed as a major
leak. I personally found it when I was contemplating doing instant 
messaging with my brother - it's not worth the trouble. I can't see 
any other use for it. In less than a week uptime it had consumed nearly
300 megs of RAM. 

 The only real information I have is that it only leaks while X is running, 
 so presumably that narrows down the culprits, but not enough for me to 
 work out what it is. 

Is it X itself? I still have 4.1. Do you notice the server (X) growing
uncontrollably? There were some threads sometime back about this but
AFAIK it depended on what video card you were using. 

Speaking of bizarre things -- about 2 days ago I was just staring at my
X screen thinking what to do next. All of a sudden the whole X subsystem
crashed, bringing me down to a console. I have yet to figure why this
happened. Sometimes bringing down the X subsystem is a temporary fix
for heavy memory use, but my system was fairly lightly loaded at the
time.




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Re: [newbie] eye candy software like Oozic Reactor

2002-07-05 Per discussione dfox

 I haven't seen Oozic, but XMMS has a load of plugins, including G-Force.

Where's Battle of the Planets? My brother may just switch to Linux if 
there's one :).

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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-05 Per discussione dfox

 The one I got is mt-st-0.6-3mdk.i586.rpm
 
 which seems to be the most recent stable version

Should work fine.




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Re: [newbie] .tar.gz files

2002-07-05 Per discussione dfox

 I keep seeing everyone putting '-xvfz'. That's never worked for me. I
 always use 'xvfz', with no '-'. I typed '-xvfz' by mistake once, and I

The problem is that the z is after the f - I would think that it would
be a problem. Sure enough, tar thinks I am able to open a file named
'z'. 

GNU doesn't want people using a leading '-'. I figure that's for
political reasons. Other commands need a '-' for options. Consider
if you omit the '-' on 'ls -l' you get 'l: no such file or 
directory.' Why try to get people to omit the '-' when using tar?

Long (--) options are nice, but they take too much typing.

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Re: [newbie] New to Linux

2002-07-04 Per discussione dfox

  I'm new to the Linux world and I've been trying to get used to it. I
 like the capabilities that it offers. I bought Mandrake 8.2, because I
 didn't know anything and it said it was easy to install. Which is was. My

Vaughn, welcome to Linux, and the list!

 question is... How do I install software onto my computer? I've tried
 downloading BTERM, because I need a good telnet session for my work. Once it
 was been downloaded, I found it on my Desktop (file system), not ( Desktop

Most Linux software is either distributed in RPM or tar.gz type files. If
you're familiar with downloading software in a Windows environment, these
are somewhat like ZIP files but they contain more information. As with
ZIP files, they need to be unpackaged before installation. 

Depending on where you wnet, you may haev a file 'bterm ... rpm' or
'bterm ... tar.gz' (the dots represent intervening characters, version
information and such - in general, filenames used for linux packages
indicate the version, what kind of machine it's for, whether it's source,
and so on. For instance, WhizBang Eidt might be called 'wed-1.0.0.tar.gz'
or 'wed-1.0.0.i386.rpm'.

Mandrake does include 'telnet' which does do a telnet session, but
does your work prefer SSH? It should - in which case you can just
install OpenSSH, then you just 'ssh' to create a session. You really
don't need a terminal emulator like you do on Windows.


 ), but I couldn't get it to do anything. Probally because lack of
 understanding, but it's frustrating.

You should find a file in Desktop starting with bterm. My guess is that
it's a tar.gz file, and you'll have to uncompress it, and then install
it. It may contain source code, in which you'll have to compile it, and
then install it.

 Is there software (drivers) for DVD's. The computer I am currently using has
 this and I would like to use it if possible.

For most people, xine works well. There's been quite a bit of list activity
recently concerning xine. I don' have a DVD player on my computer, but it
works well for playing DivX encoded CD's - I have a few of those.

Their web site is http://xine.sourceforge.net. Sourceforge.net is a huge
repository of open source and linux coding projects.

 One last question. Mandrake included a lot of Installation sources and
 commercial software. How do I know what to install ( not knowing the naming
 convention that is given to all the RPM's ) and once it is installed, how do

You might be more comfortable installing by using the software manager,
which lest you browse through packages by types. That way you don't need
to know just how the filename you're lookign for is spelled. If anything,
linux filenames /  RPMs can be somewhat unindicative of their function, and
one generally gets this familiarity by simple exposure.

 I find it? I installed what was said to be Common C++, but I can't find it.
 Please help.

What you probably installed was 'g++-common-soemthing.i586.rpm' which is
one of the necessary RPMS for the GNU C++ compiler. You'll need to install
the rest of the RPMS for gcc/g++ - best way to do that is to use the 
package manager. The files are on your installation CD, in the RPMS
directory. there are a bunch of files that start with 'gcc3.0' or
'gcc2.96' - that's the gnu C compiler files. 

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Re: [newbie] 102.4 Mb limit with ftp?

2002-07-04 Per discussione dfox

 This is apparently true for sftp as well. I remember that there was a limit
 in old kernels, but since I use Mandrake 8.2 with kernel 2.4.18-6, this

Your institute may have set up some sort of scheme that won't let you
transfer big files. But I am unawhere of any such limit in ftp or
sftp. 

 PS: Is there any rcp in the Linux distr?

There probably is, but the r-series of commands are genearlly viewed
as security risks. If you want to transfer a lot of data in a hurry,
like a whole directory structure, give 'rsync' a try. It's very fast,
probably fastrer than ftp.




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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Per discussione dfox

 Try flexbackup
 MS

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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Per discussione dfox

 And that wouldn't exist. He just needed to drop the leading / off the
 filespec.

Fundamentally, one would not try to tar to /dev/st0/home/whatever.
The tape doesn't have a filesystem. to the OP - just use /dev/st0. You
aren't going to be able to access the tape as a disk, so don't try to
do so: there is no real concept of a 'root' directory or what have
you on a tape, and you don't really need it anyway, because it's where
you are in the filesystem when you *restore* that determines where
the data is going to end up.

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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Per discussione dfox

 If you start running tight on space on that tape, remember to add the z
 flag when you create, and read the tape. Then it will compress the data.
 Depending on what the data is, it can recover a lot of space.

I'm not a big fan of using compression on the tapes, and I really haven't
tried it. The downside is if you have a marginal tape, most of the data
(anything after the marginal spot) becomes hard or impossible to recover.

But I wonder if it is better to use the z flag (i.e, 'tar' does the
compression, through gzip) or by preselecting compression (using mt; I think
there's an option) beforehand.

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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Per discussione dfox

 Thanks...that did the trick. Now all I've got to do is figure out just how 
 to erase the tape before backing up to it. Or, does that happen 
 automagically when tar begins to write to the device? 

You don't have to. It's done by the tape hardware itself, just like a
regular audio/video tape. Sometimes a bulk eraser (courtesy of Radio Shack)
helps, but I personally haven't found a need to for DAT tapes - I just 
keep writing on top of what was there before.

There is an 'erase' option in 'mt' but I've never used it.
 



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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Per discussione dfox

 try
 tar -xvf /dev/st0/home/mdw1982/.mc/ini home/mdw1982/.mc/ini 
 heck I Know squat about tar... I bet I am way wrong

That won't work, sorry. Tapes don't have filesystems, and if you just
want to back up starting from /home/mdw* just do:

tar -cvf /dev/st0 /home/md*

If you look at the output of tar (hence the 'v' option) you'll see a
list of files, all starting with 'home'. Tar omits the leading '/' (there
is an option to change this behavior) by default. When you do the restore,
simply cd into the directory (/home/mdw*) and restore it. 





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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Per discussione dfox

 Try dropping the leading slash from the filespec:
 
 tar -xvf /dev/st0 home/mdwwhatever/somefile
 
 Just watch where you're sitting when you do that. I think if you check the
 listing you made with 'tar -tvf', you'll notice the leading slash is not


Ric - good advise. Just remember the difference between relative and
absolute path names. Without the leading slash, that's a relative 
pathnmae -- i.e., relative to where you are now. If you are going to
restore home, remember you must be at the top of the tree (cd /) because
'home' (or /home) is a directory off of /, and surely enough, when you
restore in /, all the filenames just fall neatly where they're supposed
to be. It's probably less error prone to backup /home/username rather than
just 'username' -- even if it means one extra directory in the paths of
all your files. 

Not remembering 'where is this data reative to where I am in the filesystem'
is easy to do, and oftentimes one ends up with /tmp/usr/bin/something or
/home/ed/ed/wheatever if in the wrong place prior to the restore -- hell
I've done it enough times :(.

It's also why I tell people to 'tvf' before they 'xvf' when using 'tar' 
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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-03 Per discussione dfox

 To get those off:
 
 tar -zxvf /dev/st0 filespec
 
 The z in tar will compress/uncompress them on the fly. There are far
 better utilities for doing backups than tar. But in a pinch, it works. Let's

That's one aspect where the commercial backup systems should fare better
than plain 'tar' -- selective restore. The tape solution I had back
when I was using DOS let me just point and click files that I wanted
to restore. Plus, the files were stored at the beginning in a special
hash / index file, so if you wanted to restore 'foo' it would fast-forward
to where foo was, and get it. 

In a pinch, tar works well -- and it's best for full system restores,
since the other solutions are usually too bgi and/or require too much
installed just to run off of a floppy. The other available packages
(arkeia, etc.) also may do better at incremental or differential system
backups -- but that's an area that I have not yet tried.

Just remember that a tape is a sequential device, so selective file 
restore is less convenient. 

Speaking of backups, there is 'dump' and 'restore' - these are less
familiar for most linux people, but they are fairly entrenched in
bsd. dump is probably harder to use and more arcane, and I've played
with it less than 'tar' but it does let you rummage around the tape
almost like a filesystem, you can interactively list directories, and
so forth. 

(With this thread and the recent one on recording streams I hope
I get to have an impact changing magnetic patterns on a whole slew
of systems out there :).


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Re: [newbie] HP Surestore 5000

2002-07-02 Per discussione dfox

 My problem is that I have no idea how to use the tape drive.
 
 Could someone give me some pointers please.

I think there's a Tape howto over in the howto docs, but once you
have the tape working, it's pretty easy to use - you just use the
/dev/st0 (it is scsi, right?) or /dev/nst0 devises - the second is
the no-rewind device.

 
 Is it worth playing with?

Do yuo like to make backups? Or do you want to risk losing your
data? :)


 Which tape would work with it?

My surestore drive uses 4mm DAT tapes - they are DDS-2 and capacity
is 2 gigs uncompressed. When I got the drive, that was just right
for copacity; nowadays it is a bit small. But I rarely need to back
everything up. The tapes I've been using are Imation 4mm tapes - $5
bucks a pop when I got the drive. 

 What backup software could I use with it?

Lots support tapes - since it is a device you can just use
'tar'. I've found that 'tar' is just as easy to use, and probably
preferable over other backup software. Plus, Arkeia would need X, 
which translates to a pretty big system build before you could restore
a tape. Tar can fit on a rescue diskette.




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Re: [newbie] let's keep it to the list to help others to OK?

2002-07-02 Per discussione dfox

 What you described involves more than 11 separate steps ... 
 and then I still don't know what to do 
 to crop the captured image to just the portion I want: 

Well, we'll leave cropping the image for now - one would still have
to do that step even in windows, unless you want the whole screen, or
the screen region you saved is off a little bit.

Using gimp just to do a 'save screen' operation seems a bit
excessive. There are other tools avaeilable to do the job - in the
past, I use the little utility 'xwd' to dump the contents of the
screen. Of course, even then you have to convert the data from the
X window dump fotrmat to something more accessible, such as jpeg or
tiff. Using gimp makes sense if you are doing many other operations in
gimp and need a screen shot.

You might want to do some experimenting, but it seems that:

# xwd | xwdtopnm | pnmtotiff wowie.tiff

works well to create a tiff file of the screen contents. You can use
other tools as well to generate the desired file. You just need to 
use the mouse in the xwd process to define the screen region - the other
progs then take over to do the conversion in parallel.

Saving an entire screen image (1280x1024x24 color) on an Athlon 1ghz
is maybe 1 second or so.

Note that the ppm/pnm etc files are part of the pbmplus series, which
can pretty well convert files of any graphics format to any other one,
with a lot of extra options. Compression to jpeg can be done by 
cjpeg, which seems to not be around. It's not on my Mandrake 8.1 - what
happened to it? I remember having it before :(.

 Joe



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Re: [newbie] Pro's con's for separate partitions?

2002-06-30 Per discussione dfox

 to switch to Debian just for that.  Also, since Familiar and Intimate are 
 based on Debian, I can be consistant when switching from my desktop to my 
 ipaq.  Anyway, when messing with apt-get, I had to re-install a few times 

apt-get does 'exist' more or less for Mandrake as well, but it's 
certainly not a widel-used method. Nevertheless, I've played a bit
with it. I can get some packages upgraded or installed successfully
with it, but most of the time it fails because of connection problems
and not having a decent sources.list. One of the list members sent me
his, but mirror lists seem to change frequently. Either that, or they
were all busy every time I tried upgrading. That's happpened as well
with urpmi. 

 Barry





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Re: [newbie] Unix Book

2002-06-30 Per discussione dfox

 I don't know about targeting network programming.  But the best book
 I've ever seen on C programming is C How To Program, second edition,

I've heard that Stevens' book is widely regarded to be the definitive
Unix programming text. Others go with Kernighan and Ritchie's book; the
latter is more just a synopsis of the language rather than an intero
programming text. 

Personally, I haven't looked at C or other how to program books in 
quite sometime (I used one called variations in C when I was taking
a C programming course in school) but I'd hazard a guess that many
of them are way too windows or dos-based.

 LX



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Re: [newbie] Pro's con's for separate partitions?

2002-06-29 Per discussione dfox

 You will notice the benefit to separate /home /opt and /etc directories when 
 you upgrade to Mandrake 9.0. Performing an 'upgrade' to a distro is still not 

Agreed, especially in the case of /home. When I last did a fairly major
upgrade, /home was on a 150 meg partition sitting on a old drive that
I just pulled from the system when I upgraded to a new hard driev. Having
home separate was easy - I just tared up the old partition and transplanted
it into a bigger space.

I don't see how /etc can be on a separate partition, but still, tarring
up /etc is pretty easy to do - I've done it a few times during upgrades
or reinstalls. My biggest changeover was from a 1.6 gig drive with Redhat
6.2 to Mandrake 7.2 on a 30 gig drive. I had plenty of space, so I made
/ rather large, but still had separate partitions for /usr/local, /home,
/var, and oene or more others. 

I've had enough space *someplace* (I can usually throw stuff in /tmp, 
and / is large) to make moving partitions around, which I've had to do
a few times. Underestimating one's needs usually causes one to have to
resize :( -- in that respect, having a large / is good. Typically, 
a large / also gives you enough room in /usr, where all the 'goodies'
are, and there seems to be fewer instances of a partitino split 
between / and /usr. But that's probably subjective. 

One point about /opt -- I figured originally I was going to need more
room for 'extras' and found that it was mostly wasted: I didn't need
5 gigs of space for KDE and star office and maybe some other stuff - so
I just folded /opt back into /, and used the space elsewhere.
 
 derek



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