Re: Peso-Mallard Hen's Dilemma

[Igor PDML-StR]

Jack,

No, I meant the two front ducks (the 3rd one is also, but that's 
understandable, it's slightly outside of DOF.


I think I found a partial problem. For some reason,
Firefox shows the image at a slightly large size then what it is in 
reality. So, it is dynamically upscaling it. And that is likely resulting 
in the apparent softness. It is not happening in other browsers.

(I just realized, - my browser had some small zoom value, probably 110%.)

However, I still see that some parts of the two front ducks are not very 
sharp. E.g. the breast of the brown one is sort of blurred.
I am not sure if it is a motion blur, the resolution limitation of the 
lens, or a very narrow DoF. It might be a combination of several factors.

What was the focal length and the aperture for this shot?

It's a nice catch in any case!

Igor




 Jack Davis Fri, 14 Oct 2016 11:46:14 -0700 wrote:

Reply#2: Yes, the grass in the foreground and ducks and grasses in the
background are soft, but the
plain of the primary subjects is
really all that mattered to me in
this "off hand" casual catch.
Is that what you're seeing?
Thanks, Igor!
J


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Igor PDML-StR <pdml...@komkon.org> wrote:


Jack,

It's a nice catch and composition.

I don't know if it is my browser or what, but it looks softish.
I'd try to sharpen it a bit (or at least to apply "unsharp" filter or
it's cousin "Presence/Clariry" in LR.

BTW, the caption is misspelled. :)

Igor


Jack Davis Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:50:21 -0700 wrote:

Shot a few days ago at Colusa Ntl Refuge.

Comments most welcome!


J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1109




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Re: PESO - Crown Prince

[Igor PDML-StR]

HAR!

And you see, there is something about them liking to have a window right 
behind. These guys might be using those windows as portals.


Igor


 P.J. Alling Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:31:01 -0700 wrote:

At last!

https://pdml.updog.co/Take%20me%20to%20your%20leader/GESO%20--%20takemetoyourleaderi.html


On 10/14/2016 12:39 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




... of an eState (or iState?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/CrownPrince_IR34891.jpg

(Some assumed nudity is involved, but it is SFW).

Taken on the grounds of the State Museum of History of South Urals (in 
Chelyabinsk, Russia).


It is more of a fun shot, but all comments and critique are welcome.

Igor




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Re: Peso-Mallard Hen's Dilemma

[Igor PDML-StR]

Jack,

It's a nice catch and composition.

I don't know if it is my browser or what, but it looks softish.
I'd try to sharpen it a bit (or at least to apply "unsharp" filter or
it's cousin "Presence/Clariry" in LR.

BTW, the caption is misspelled. :)

Igor


Jack Davis Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:50:21 -0700 wrote:

Shot a few days ago at Colusa Ntl Refuge.

Comments most welcome!


J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1109


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Re: PESO - Crown Prince

[Igor PDML-StR]

Yep, it was hard to avoid that window: shooting more from the side would 
overimpose the scepter onto the body.


Igor

PS. I realized that I was wrong. This must be a king, or, rather a Czar, 
given the location. :-)



 Ken Waller Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:58:47 -0700 wrote:

I like it except for the inclusion of the window on the LH side.
Clever assemblage.

 Jack Davis Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:57:09 -0700 wrote:

Love this, Igor. A terrific image!
Might have shot around the window?

J

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




... of an eState (or iState?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/CrownPrince_IR34891.jpg

(Some assumed nudity is involved, but it is SFW).

Taken on the grounds of the State Museum of History of South Urals (in 
Chelyabinsk, Russia).


It is more of a fun shot, but all comments and critique are welcome.

Igor




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PESO - Crown Prince

[Igor PDML-StR]

... of an eState (or iState?):
http://42graphy.org/misc/CrownPrince_IR34891.jpg

(Some assumed nudity is involved, but it is SFW).

Taken on the grounds of the State Museum of History of South Urals (in 
Chelyabinsk, Russia).


It is more of a fun shot, but all comments and critique are welcome.

Igor


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Re: GESO: The Master at Work

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Photos don't lie. ;)


Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 14 Oct 2016 03:33:43 -0700 wrote:

I see he was lying down on the job there.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Chris Mitchell 
wrote:


Mark doing his thing in Liverpool

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Liverpool16/

Chris



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Re: Some printer stuff to chew on...

[Igor PDML-StR]

Ann,

I think they are rather similar (but I looked only at a very small snippet 
of the video.

Anyway, - I am glad you found what's working for you.

Igor

 ann sanfedele Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:36:56 -0700 wrote:

Alas, No help at all.. it is more different than you think, however,


I found this on line and it is  helpful

http://www.redrivercatalog.com/profiles/how-to-use-icc-color-printer-profiles-photoshop-elements-epson-pc.html

ann


On 10/13/2016 9:01 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Hi Ann:

This document describes with pictures of the menus of how to print photos on 
Epson printers (like R2400) using paper profiles:

http://files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd3/cpd39134.pdf
While in PSE the menus might look slightly different then in PS, they are 
very close, so, you should be able to follow.
Pay attention to the pictures on p. 10 and p.12. These are covering what Paul 
(and others) were talking about.


I hope this helps.

Igor


ann sanfedele Wed, 12 Oct 2016 16:07:56 -0700 wrote:


On 10/12/2016 4:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

   Are you printing with "PS Elements controls printing" or using the 
printer's

   color controls?

I don't know and don't know how to tell... that was what I hoped someone 
would tell me. :-) Hey weren't you the one that you said you removed profiles 
and let the printer rule?




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Re: Some printer stuff to chew on...

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Hi Ann:

This document describes with pictures of the menus of how to print photos 
on Epson printers (like R2400) using paper profiles:

http://files.support.epson.com/docid/cpd3/cpd39134.pdf
While in PSE the menus might look slightly different then in PS, they are 
very close, so, you should be able to follow.
Pay attention to the pictures on p. 10 and p.12. These are covering what 
Paul (and others) were talking about.


I hope this helps.

Igor


ann sanfedele Wed, 12 Oct 2016 16:07:56 -0700 wrote:


On 10/12/2016 4:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Are you printing with "PS Elements controls printing" or using the 
printer's

color controls?

I don't know and don't know how to tell... that was what I hoped someone 
would tell me. :-) Hey weren't you the one that you said you removed 
profiles and let the printer rule?


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Re: The dreaded phone call

[Igor PDML-StR]

Ted, well done!

You had the strength to "stand your ground", and it paid off.
(And that is probably even more important than the actual money you've 
got.)

No reason to dread the next call! :)

This initial attitude of the caller once again reminded me this, 
previously circulated on PDML comic strip: 
http://www.whattheduck.net/post/140034124998/wtd-835-free-is-the-new-paid-2009-aaron


But then, as a convict serving the life sentence that just attempted to 
escape says in a TV serial: "You can't blame me for trying".


You can't blame these guys for trying to get it for free.
;-)

Cheers,

Igor



Theodore Beilby Wed, 12 Oct 2016 10:08:38 -0700 wrote:

Was at home yesterday and got a phone call we all hate. Can we use one of 
your photos? I asked how much they were willing to pay for it? Response, 
we are doing it for a promotion, not paying for photos. I responded, "I 
don't give my work away." Basically that was the end of the call. Few 
hours pass and the phone rings again. Same voice on the other end, "How 
Much?" Long story short, they bought a one time use for my price. I was 
very much nicer on the second call. Ted


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Re: PESO - Perseverance and Passion -- the story behind it.

[Igor PDML-StR]

I promised to share the story that was behind the second photo below.
Here is the blog post (not mine) that describes it:
http://softwareandotherthings.blogspot.com/2016/08/work-hard-aim-high-fall-and-keep-going.html

I hope you'll enjoy it.

Igor



On Fri, 30 Sep 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




For me, this photo is overwhelmed with the passion and excitement:
http://42graphy.org/skating/2016-08-28-performance/_IR35254.html

One more photo:
http://42graphy.org/skating/2016-08-28-performance/_IR35212.html
I am sharing it even though it is soft. I think it is one of those that "tell 
a story". (And that's why I don't want to spoil the effect and will pause 
before posting the story about it.)

But then, I am biased (and I was there to watch it).
Does it do that for you?


I think I am finally getting some handle on photographing figure skaters on 
ice. There are still several things I'd like to improve and will try to work 
on next time. (All critique and suggestions are solicited.)


I should probably consider getting some reasonable monopod with a head that 
allows quick and easy flipping between horizontal and vertical positions. 
Speaking of which, does anybody have a suggestion for a simple and 
inexpensive head like that? Alternatively, are there any flip-brackets 
designed for mounting a camera on a monopod? (I am thinking along the lines 
of flash-mounting brackets that easy to flip, - something similar for 
cameras.)


Thank you,

Igor




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PESO - In Step

[Igor PDML-StR]

Of the three photos, I like this the most.
The B look (and what seems to be not just straight B, but slightly 
toned?) gives a sort of "classic"/retro mood.
And the modern selfie-stick and a baseball cap (?) create the contrast 
with that retro mood.


But the "in step" is funny too!

One comment: the images are too large to be viewed comfortably without 
scrolling in the browser. It of course depends on your target audience. 
Maybe on a 4k-5k display they look ok, but on a cell phone, laptop I had 
to scroll both vertically and horizontally.

One of the images is 1,261px × 821px, another is 1,261px × 793px...
Both are above 720p screen. And then there are extremely wide margins 
on all 4 sides (not clear why?)
Scrolling a photo, especially in two directions is painful for the viewing 
pleasure.



My laptop's screen is 1280x800, (and the one of the phone is even slightly 
smaller). Even when I looked at these photos on my desktop screen 
1920x1200, I had to scroll or to maximize the browser window to the full 
screen. I almost never maximize any program on my desktop display 
(except for _some_ videos). I purposely have windows size so that I can 
have easily swich between different projects.


I hope you will consider a different format for the sake of your viewers.


Cheers,

Igor



 Steve Cottrell Fri, 07 Oct 2016 14:50:20 -0700 wrote:


'Selfie, Liverpool 2016
Olympus Pen F + Pentax 24/2.8




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Re: OT: This makes so much sense!

[Igor PDML-StR]

It is not just the cell phone service. It applies to any service that 
assumes multiple resource consumers accessing the same resource, but not 
all at once. Most of those are NOT designed for the capacity that would 
provide ALL end users simultaneously. That would be too expensive and 
wasteful. There is always a "designed" capacity that could be based on the 
historic data, assumptions, models, etc.
That applies to: landline phones, ISPs, water, electricity, drainage, 
sewage,  fire/police department, roadway and public transport capacity ... 
That's why you occasionally have electric power blackouts, internet 
hiccups/slowdowns in the evenings, flash floods, traffic congestions, 
fully packed buses and subway trains, etc.


The cell phone systems have an additional limitation from the frequency 
spectrum allotted by the govermental agencies (FCC in the US). You have to 
allow a certain frequency range for each channel (conversation) to avoid 
interference between adjacent channels. And the minimum width of that is 
significantly affected by the capabilities of the (notch) filters in the 
cell tower switches.


So, increasing the capacity for simultaneous cell phone connections 
requires increased density of cell towers, with all obvious conseqencies 
and costs.



An aside: superconductor-based filters in provide much higher density of 
channels available for a given frequency range, and that's one of the 
motivations for searching for superconductors that can work at higher 
(ideally room) temperature. You might not know, but cell towers with 
superconducting electronics have been deployed since late 90s.
BTW, the limited capacity of the electric cables is the limiting factor 
for the electric power available for large metropolitan centers (such as 
NYC). And that also motivates the same research of superconductors.



Igor




Gonz Fri, 07 Oct 2016 08:46:12 -0700 wrote:

Exactly Bob.  Cell phone service has a certain load rate expectation.
These load rates are exceeded in many situations.  It happened during
9/11, the Boston Marathon bombing, some storms in the south east, etc.
I remember that the batteries in the local trunk boxes were really
tall, the reason being that over time lead-acid batteries slough off
some of the lead from the plates, eventually shorting the plates and
rendering the battery useless.  By making them tall, the batteries had
an exceptional lifespan.  I always wanted to put one of those in my
car!  hehe



On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Bob Sullivan  
wrote:

I miss the days when Ma Bell had batteries in every office to keep the
phones working.
15 years ago the exchange the office was on had a fire and went out of
service.
The majority cell phone provider was overloaded and useless, no 

connectvity.

Something to think about.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Paul Stenquist  

wrote:

Yep. Your public utility probably has an app for that. My electricity
provider, DTE Energy, posts updates as work progresses. The app allows
reporting of an outage, bill paying and more. Another app offered by 

the

utility monitors electricity usage in real time via the smart meter and
provides billing info as well. The neatest part of it all: a tool that
enables measurement of an appliances kilowatt demand by holding an 

iPhone

next to the power cord.

Paul via phone


On Oct 7, 2016, at 7:54 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:


On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:39 PM, John  wrote:

One of the things they suggested was that if it DOES go off, I should
consult their web site to find out the extent of the outage. I'll 

make

sure to check, JUST AS SOON AS THE POWER COMES BACK ON!


Smartphones, dude.


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Re: OT: This makes so much sense!

[Igor PDML-StR]

Ann,

I understand that.

However, practically, what would be a better solution?
Maybe setting a multiline automated system with a prerecorded message 
informing about the outage status? But that might be impractical, 
especially if it is a relatively small town with limited resources.

But maybe they have something like that?
I know that in our town (and the fact that there are several Title I 
schools here is probably a good indicator of the social spread), -
the city has an outage reporting phone, where, during the outages some 
(albeit rather limited) information is also provided.


On another hand, if you have a choice: to give information to some people 
who might be able to have access to it (from home, cell phone, neighbors, 
coffee shop, workplace) or to provide it to nobody, what would you choose?

 In my opinion, it is better to benefit _some_ people then none at all.

Besides, the ubiquity of the web-based public information and services is 
also pushing the idea that broadband internet (in various forms) should 
become universally available even in the most rural areas, - in a way that 
Communication Act of 1934 (and "Universal Service" principle) brought the 
phone everywhere in the US.



As for the discrimination aspect that you pointed out, I think focusing on 
the culprits is more important than fuming about the symptoms.


Igor


 ann sanfedele Thu, 06 Oct 2016 19:46:24 -0700 wrote:

Igor -

"Quite some people" in North Carolina don't have cell phones , or 
computers - even here, some people don't have either - but they have a 
telephone



Calling landlines and telling people to check a website isannoying enough 
, but the amount of information these days that seems only to be available 
with web access is just another form of discrimination...


ann


On 10/6/2016 10:05 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


> John,

While I understand your thoughts (and sarcasm), I would like to point out 
that quite some people use their cell phones to access a web site.
I was checking the outage extent from my cell when we lost the power 
(happened 2-3 times in a row last year).


Besides, depending on the extent of the outage, internet might still be 
working for some time after it. If, say, the outage is limited to your 
subdivision, the modem is supposed to have a battery in it, and so does the 
pole/cable equipment. Then it would depend how well the ISP maintains those 
batteries; it varies.


And as far the personal computer equipment goes, - people often have routers 
on a UPS, and some folks even have their own backup power generators.


Igor



John Thu, 06 Oct 2016 18:40:58 -0700 wrote:

So I thought I'd share.

I just got a robo-call from my electric utility to warn me there might
be a "storm" in this area in the next few days, and that I should
consider in advance what to do if the power goes off.


One of the things they suggested was that if it DOES go off, I should
consult their web site to find out the extent of the outage. I'll make
sure to check, JUST AS SOON AS THE POWER COMES BACK ON!

Sometimes all you can do is laugh & cry at the same time.



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OT: This makes so much sense!

[Igor PDML-StR]

John,

While I understand your thoughts (and sarcasm), I would like to point out 
that quite some people use their cell phones to access a web site.
I was checking the outage extent from my cell when we lost the power 
(happened 2-3 times in a row last year).


Besides, depending on the extent of the outage, internet might still be 
working for some time after it. If, say, the outage is limited to your 
subdivision, the modem is supposed to have a battery in it, and so does 
the pole/cable equipment. Then it would depend how well the ISP maintains 
those batteries; it varies.


And as far the personal computer equipment goes, - people often have 
routers on a UPS, and some folks even have their own backup power 
generators.


Igor



John Thu, 06 Oct 2016 18:40:58 -0700 wrote:

So I thought I'd share.

I just got a robo-call from my electric utility to warn me there might
be a "storm" in this area in the next few days, and that I should
consider in advance what to do if the power goes off.


One of the things they suggested was that if it DOES go off, I should
consult their web site to find out the extent of the outage. I'll make
sure to check, JUST AS SOON AS THE POWER COMES BACK ON!

Sometimes all you can do is laugh & cry at the same time.

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Re: Getting in touch with my inner lesbian

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steve harley Tue, 04 Oct 2016 18:55:04 -0700 wrote:



Subaru is the state car of Colorado; yes, a lot of strong women drive 
them, and they seem to hold up well (i've never had one); they are also 
favorites of car thieves


You are still talking about "strong women", that "_they_ seem to hold up 
well", and _they_ are those who you've "never had"...?

;-)

Cheers,

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How was San Diego? Attn: Rick (Was: Re: San Diego)

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi Rick,

It would be interesting to hear what photo opportunities you had in San 
Diego, and what photos you took.


Cheers,

Igor


Rick Womer Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:29:21 -0700 wrote:

Thanks Igor! These are very helpful.

My wife has a conference all day Friday; I think we will head for the 
Balboa Park attractions on Saturday. Not sure what I'll do Friday when I'm 
on my own until dinner.



Rick

On Mon, 26 Sep 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Hi, Rick,

I wish this were happening some 9 years ago, while I was still in San 
Diego...


As for the "shooting venues", - I would recommend three "sets":
1. Several places along the shore.
and
2. "Safari"-park (formerly known as Wild Animal Park).
3. Balboa Park (near downtown).

First about the Safari park: What I like about it is that most animals are 
not in cages as in case of a traditional zoo, but in an open space. And they 
have a safari tour, where they take you in the back of a small track into 
those areas. That tour is not cheap, but it's a great experience, IMHO. (I'd 
try to reserve that in advance, - look at the website for times and 
procedures.)
One catch is that this park is at a distance from San Diego. I am not sure 
how much an uber ride will cost.


Balboa Park has several different sites. I'd recommend the Botanical building 
(with a nice Lily Pond in front):

http://www.balboapark.org/in-the-park/botanical-building
they also have a nice Japanese Garden if you are into that.
As an added bonus, there is a photography museum, - you can check what 
exibition is on display there now.
The traditional Zoo is attached to Balboa park, - and it is also very 
enjoyable.


Finally, the sea-side points that I personally enjoy:
1. La Jolla Coves
2. Similar sites: Shelter Island or Harbor Island (the latter is within 
walking distance from the airport)

3. Vicinities of the Cabrillo National Monument.
4. Coronado Island: both the side facing downtown and the ocean - near Hotel 
Del Coronado (That's where "Some like it hot" movie was shot).


As a matter of fact, of these four, I'd suggest taking Coronado Ferry from 
the side of downtown (I believe it departs from two different places). Then 
enjoy "Coronado Ferry Landing" area, then take a quick Uber/taxi drive to 
Hotel Del Coronado, walk through it to the beach, walk along it in the NW 
direction, catch Uber to get to downtown (or elsewhere) via Coronado bridge 
-- that's a spectacular view, but you cannot stop there.

Or, you can do in the reverse order.

La Jolla Coves would be the second recommendation from these four.
When there, also walk through La Jolla downtown, - they have some nice art 
galleries (if you like those).


If you've been to all those before, and would rather enjoy a hike, you might 
consider Torrey Pines beach, and then a hike through the Torrey Pines reserve 
and hitting the Glideport.
In a good weather, the Glideport is a nice place to be in the late afternoon. 
You might see people on gliders, with Kites. And it also gives a great sea 
view from the height of some 370 ft.

Torrey Pines area is north of La Jolla, - so it all requires a ride.

La Jolla downtown (5-10-minutes walk from La Jolla Cove) and a bunch of 
places @Coronado Landing have seafood (and other) restaurants.

Most are touristy and a bit pricy, but not too bad, especially in La Jolla.

My personal favorite seafood place (very casual) is
Blue Water Seafood Market and Grill, which is relatively close to both 
downtown and airport:

http://bluewaterseafoodsandiego.com/todays-menu/
They have both local and non-local fresh fish. It is good for both lunch and 
informal dinner. And they have local craft beers.
If you care for tasty seafood and not that much for pampering and white-cloth 
ambience, - that's the place to hit.

I've recommended this place to many people, and everybody enjoyed it.

I hope this helps.

Igor



Rick Womer Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:18:14 -0700 wrote:

It appears that I will be in San Diego this Friday without daytime 
obligations.



If any PDMLers there would like to go shooting and perhaps ingest lunch and a 
beer, it would be a pleasure.


In any case suggestions concerning shooting venues, lunch, and beer would be 
welcome. I won't have a car, but I will have Uber.


Cheers,

Rick



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Re: OT: Magnificent Moscow Metro

[Igor PDML-StR]

John:

My impression of the DC Metro is very mixed: On one hand it has much nicer 
trains than those in most (if not all) US cities (where present).

On another hand, the frequency of the trains is not that great.
(My impression is that even in Boston and Manhattan, the train frequency 
is better, but I might be biased.)

My impression, that the coverage of the city in DC is subpar.

And yes, while writing my previous response, I was also thinking about a 
few "hidden jems" - subway stations in NYC. However, that doesn't change 
the otherwise extremely low key appearance of the extremely utilitarian 
NYC subway. (And don't take me wrong, NYC subway is very useful.)



The aspect that bothers me about NYC subway is the layout of the lines.
It is far from being _logical. I know, on one hand it is a historic 
inheritance (of how competing companies were running parallel lines 
which is, btw, rather fascinating). On another hand, it is also a 
reflection of the socio-economic layout of NYC.
E.g. in Manhattan, there are no lines east of the green lines. And the 
organization of lines/routes along the same tracks is idiosyncratic.


As for Moscow Metro being a "show place", - it's always been difficult for 
me to imagine people living in the beautiful palaces and castles in Europe 
or in the RI mansions in the US. But I was somewhat surprised (or amused?) 
seeing tourists photographing subway stations in Moscow until I saw 
Chicago's L with my own eyes.


Igor



 John Wed, 05 Oct 2016 05:55:47 -0700 wrote:

Hong Kong, Nanjing & Beijing subway systems were all pretty much like
the DC Metro (except newer & not as worn from deferred maintenance);
very Mies van der Rohe, lots of polished steel & glass à la the IBM
building in Chicago.


The Moscow Metro was built as much for a show place as it was for
transit. Compare NYC's closed City Hall Station. It was a beauty when it
was built.


On Wed, 5 Oct 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I agree with Dan: While I haven't used London Underground, I have not seen a 
large-city subway system that would unequivocally bit Moscow Metro.

(But I haven't been to Chine or Korea.)

Besides the beautiful architecture, there are many advantages of Moscow 
Metro:
1. Open long hours (most stations are open for entry from about 5:30am till 
1:00am, while typically the last train starts from the end station at about 
1am).
2. The frequency of trains during the day time is 2-4 minutes, and can be 10 
(or even close to 15) minutes at late night.

3. Trains are long, and hence have high capacity.
4. Low cost (very affordable) and simple payment system (per ride, regardless 
of length or line changes).
5. Fairly large and mostly logical coverage (unlike e.g. lopsided subway 
system in NYC).


The biggest negative aspect is the lack of temperature control inside the 
trains (no AC), - until about 2010. These days there are still many trains 
without AC.



Unfortunately, subway systems in the ConUS are by far inferior to Moscow 
Metro (and some are crappy or nonexistant).


Igor



Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 04 Oct 2016 18:32:15 -0700 wrote:

When we were there, after the fall of the Soviet Union, it performed as
well as it looked.  The trains arrived and departed precisely on time.
They were clean, comfortable and cheerful.  It is, in my opinion, better
than the Paris Metro and the LondonUndergrounf in all respectsd.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:41 PM, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> 
wrote:



The Metro was so beautiful because everything else about the old Soviet
Union was so crappy. Probably under the gilt the Metro was crappy too, but
it still looked good.


On 10/4/2016 4:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


When we were in Russia, 20 years ago, I was quite impressed by the beauty
of the Moscos Metro stations, and the steep, speedy and thrilling
escalator
rides down to the stations.

I don't have any decent images from back then, but here are a few someone
else took and posted:

http://themetapicture.com/moscow-metro-stations-are-magnificent/

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola





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Re: OT: Magnificent Moscow Metro

[Igor PDML-StR]

I agree with Dan: While I haven't used London Underground, I have not seen 
a large-city subway system that would unequivocally bit Moscow Metro.

(But I haven't been to Chine or Korea.)

Besides the beautiful architecture, there are many advantages of 
Moscow Metro:
1. Open long hours (most stations are open for entry from about 5:30am 
till 1:00am, while typically the last train starts from the end station 
at about 1am).
2. The frequency of trains during the day time is 2-4 minutes, and can be 
10 (or even close to 15) minutes at late night.

3. Trains are long, and hence have high capacity.
4. Low cost (very affordable) and simple payment system (per ride, 
regardless of length or line changes).
5. Fairly large and mostly logical coverage (unlike e.g. lopsided subway 
system in NYC).


The biggest negative aspect is the lack of temperature control inside the 
trains (no AC), - until about 2010. These days there are still many trains 
without AC.



Unfortunately, subway systems in the ConUS are by far inferior to 
Moscow Metro (and some are crappy or nonexistant).


Igor



Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 04 Oct 2016 18:32:15 -0700 wrote:

When we were there, after the fall of the Soviet Union, it performed as
well as it looked.  The trains arrived and departed precisely on time.
They were clean, comfortable and cheerful.  It is, in my opinion, better
than the Paris Metro and the LondonUndergrounf in all respectsd.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 5:41 PM, P.J. Alling  
wrote:



The Metro was so beautiful because everything else about the old Soviet
Union was so crappy. Probably under the gilt the Metro was crappy too, but
it still looked good.


On 10/4/2016 4:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


When we were in Russia, 20 years ago, I was quite impressed by the beauty
of the Moscos Metro stations, and the steep, speedy and thrilling
escalator
rides down to the stations.

I don't have any decent images from back then, but here are a few someone
else took and posted:

http://themetapicture.com/moscow-metro-stations-are-magnificent/

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Re: The Camera Store uses destroys a camera to make survival fishing gear.

[Igor PDML-StR]

HAR! on both accounts.

Note for myself: when planning on getting lost in the woods, do not 
forget to drag all your camera gear with you!


Igor


P.J. Alling Mon, 03 Oct 2016 19:15:07 -0700 wrote:

Damn, that subject line is garbled. I should really read these things 
before I hit send.



On 10/3/2016 10:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

On topic because it's a Pentax...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qInq0PN3Z1s



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OT Android ??

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dave,

As Brian, has suggested, you can just convert songs to some mp3 format.
Alternatively (I haven't used those), - you may consider some of the 
multiple apps (including free ones) available on Google Play.


You can read about different apps and other methods and some useful 
tricks e.g. in these three articles:

http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-transfer-music-itunes-android-230232/
(note the 2nd or the 3rd comment there about songs with DRM!)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/saltzman/2016/05/08/switch-android-how-sync-itunes-music-free/32603595/
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-get-your-itunes-music-your-android

HTH,

Igor



David J Brooks Mon, 03 Oct 2016 08:58:40 -0700 wrote:

Looking at ways to get my iTunes songs onto my Galaxy Prime Grand.
Seems its not as easy as 1-2-3. Keepvid seems a good one, any one else
have any suggestions.


I tunes from iMac OSX 10.6.8

Dave

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Re: Markham Fair

[Igor PDML-StR]

Late to the party: Wonderful image, nicely rendered, and I agree with 
others about the dust. Congrats, Dave!


Yep, it's always amusing to me when a quick grab could be better than a 
carefully-planned photo.


As for your awards,

submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds,

I thought four thirds could've been more interesting to win. ;-)

Cheers!
Igor

David J Brooks Mon, 03 Oct 2016 06:58:14 -0700 wrote:

Thanks everyone.
Funny thing is, this was a grab shot from the X30, basically lifted it
to my eye and snapped.


Dave

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Strong, dynamic image.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 7:43 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:


Morning all.

This past weekend was the annual Markham fair, the one i submit
pictures to for their photo contests. This year was a dismal year for
me for photos, did not get out a lot but i did manage a few venues,
one of which was the annual plow demo using horse drawn equipment. I
submitted 6 photos and won a first and two thirds, One of my B's won
best in class, something i have been striving for for the past 16
years. I got a nice ribbon and a plaque as well

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-Lewis-farm/album/slides/DSCF0705.html

I'm quite thrilled by this.

Dave



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Re: Camera mount brackets (for quick orientation flipping)?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry, yes, but a ball head requires tightening.
Think of a flash bracket: it doesn't.  A flip is much easier and quicker.
And then, if you are completely leveled (shooting up or down), you'd still 
need some tilt from the head but in the orthogonal direction (forward 
rocking as opposed to flipping sideway ). (And you can set that for the 
condition and keep it constant. )



Igor

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Larry Colen Sun, 02 Oct 2016 11:49:45 -0700 wrote:

Igor PDML-StR wrote:

I am surprised why I cannot find a bracket that allows such quick flipping. 
I'd expect it would be useful to sport photographers, for those sports 
where you'd want both portrait and landscape shots, and switch between the 
two. But maybe those people use two cameras each on a separate monopod?


Because it is quick and easy with a ball head, all of the good ones have a 
special notch that allows you to tip the camera exactly 90 
degrees. Anything that only does 90 degrees would cost about as much.





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Re: PESO - Boats in the Harbour

[Igor PDML-StR]

From the negative films, I'd say those red colors would be asking for 

Agfa.
I've forgotten the specific names (Vista comes to mind, but that is not 
the only one.), - even though I have a few rolls still sitting in the 
fridge.


I think Afga was the best (definitely from the consumer-level lines, but 
also from the "pro-oriented" lines). And it had the great high contrast 
suitable for the scene like this. I don't think that either green-tinted 
Fuji or brown-tinted Kodak.


Igor


Brian Walters Sat, 01 Oct 2016 14:35:01 -0700 wrote:

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016, at 08:01 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 30/9/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Here's a larger and wider view - merge of two frames:
>
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PanoramaIGP7447-7449.jpg

In the old days this would have screamed Kodachrome 25 ;-)




Your old days were different to mine.  I never shot Kodachrome 25 - I
was almost exclusively Fujichrome 50 or 100 (occasionally Velvia).


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Re: GESO spider and cocoon

[Igor PDML-StR]

Sorry, I've confused you:
After you've pointed out that there are several photos, I've found those.

Cheers,

Igor


 Larry Colen Sat, 01 Oct 2016 12:14:19 -0700 wrote:


Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Nope!
I've opened the page at least 3 times over 2 (or 3?) days, and every
time, I saw only the first image.


Weird.  Did you try scrolling down?

Here's the link to the set on flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673270739161

versus flickriver
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673270739161/

And while I'm at it fluidr, which shows the exif data

http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673270739161/

Is anyone else seeing that issue?



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Re: Camera mount brackets (for quick orientation flipping)?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Many thanks to all who responded.
I have several followup questions.

1. L-brackets (acratech).
I am confused, maybe I am just slow...  but it seems to me that flipping
between the two orientations is not quick. I watched this video, and 
toward the end, it shows that an alan wrench is needed for doing that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIosBfLdW5A
Did I miss some other way it works for orientaiton flipping?

2. I understand how L-brackets could be useful for the proper nodal point, 
and I see that it is useful for panoramas, panning, etc.
But I am not seeing that it would be critical on a monopod (except, maybe 
for panning). What am I missing?


3. Kirk monopod Head. - I looked at MPA-2, and it looks nice, but indeed 
quite expensive, and to some extend an overkill for my needs.


4. I've seriously looked at Manfrotto 234RC or 234. That's a tilt head. 
And it might do the job (except that I am not sure if 234RC has the 
correct orientation that would provide the tilt in the correct direction 
(i.e. to the side, as opposed to the front).

The shortcoming of that is that it requires tightening the screw.
That where I would prefer a device that provides just two orientations, 
and would have at most a release lever/button.
I am surprised why I cannot find a bracket that allows such quick 
flipping. I'd expect it would be useful to sport photographers, for those 
sports where you'd want both portrait and landscape shots, and switch 
between the two. But maybe those people use two cameras each on a separate 
monopod?


Cheers,

Igor



On Sat, 1 Oct 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Hi All,

I asked this question in a different thread, - but it might not be seen 
there, so, I would ask it in its own thread.


I am considering buying a monopod and some type of device that allows quick 
and easy flipping between horizontal and vertical positions.
Larry has suggested a ball head as those typically have a slit that allow to 
tilt the camera by 90 degrees.
That is a possibility, but: 1. I would be overpaying for the functionality I 
don't need. (Or maybe I am not looking at the right ball heads? Are there any 
inexpensive ones?)

and
2. A ball head has more degrees of freedom, which complicates the situation 
when I need just to flip it from landscape to portrait orientation.


I've been thinking about something that is similar to the brackets used for 
mounting flashes, but just for the camera. Such a "bracket" would flip 
between just two orientations (on a tripod or monopod).

Do such devices exist? Any pointers?

Thank you!

Igor






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What is "8X"?

[Igor PDML-StR]

While looking for a carbon fiber monopod, I encountered this term that I 
don't know, and couldn't completely figure out by googling: "8X".

I see that it seems to refer to the carbon fiber material.
I am guessing that it is probably a marketing term for the type of carbon 
fiber, maybe something like "8-layer carbon fiber".


So, I am just curious, what that "8X means.

Igor


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Camera mount brackets (for quick orientation flipping)?

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Hi All,

I asked this question in a different thread, - but it might not be seen 
there, so, I would ask it in its own thread.


I am considering buying a monopod and some type of device that allows 
quick and easy flipping between horizontal and vertical positions.
Larry has suggested a ball head as those typically have a slit that allow 
to tilt the camera by 90 degrees.
That is a possibility, but: 1. I would be overpaying for the functionality 
I don't need. (Or maybe I am not looking at the right ball heads? Are 
there any inexpensive ones?)

and
2. A ball head has more degrees of freedom, which complicates the 
situation when I need just to flip it from landscape to portrait 
orientation.


I've been thinking about something that is similar to the brackets used 
for mounting flashes, but just for the camera. Such a "bracket" would flip 
between just two orientations (on a tripod or monopod).

Do such devices exist? Any pointers?

Thank you!

Igor




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Re: GESO spider and cocoon

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Nope!
I've opened the page at least 3 times over 2 (or 3?) days, and every time, 
I saw only the first image.


Thanks!


As for the "bnading" I was talking about, - it shows up only in the first 
image.
Now, I think that it could be because you boosted the exposure (shadows?), 
- and what was almost clipped (from below) show as a "step" in the color 
in the JPEG.


Igor


 Larry Colen Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:00:06 -0700 wrote:


Igor PDML-StR wrote:


I've been looking at this image for 3 days, and I am still having
problems discerning the spider.


Did you notice that it's a GESO? Did you scroll down to other photos?

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Re: PESO - Perseverance and Passion

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry,

Do you remember which Benro model? C38F, by any chance?

As for Induro ball heads: I looked at the cheapest one, BHS1:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/816613-REG/Induro_479_011_BHS1_Ball_Head.html
While 10 reviews on Amazon are ok, 1 review there and 3 reviews on B 
suggest that its build is poor, and that especially shows within a few 
months.

Did you get a different model?

Thank you,

Igor


 Larry Colen Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:30:11 -0700 wrote:


I should probably consider getting some reasonable monopod with a head
that allows quick and easy flipping between horizontal and vertical
positions. Speaking of which, does anybody have a suggestion for a
simple and inexpensive head like that? Alternatively, are there any
flip-brackets designed for mounting a camera on a monopod? (I am
thinking along the lines of flash-mounting brackets that easy to flip, 
- something similar for cameras.)



I have a benro carbon fiber monopod that I'm very happy with, it set me 
back about $85, rather than $240 for the manfrotto.



Pretty much any decent arca-swiss style ball head on it will work. There's 
a little notch to flip the camera over to portrait format.



I find that the Induro ball heads are very good for the money.

I like the custom slr mini plates. They work with both arca-swiss and most 
of the manfrotto style generic tripod plates.



I also picked a couple of these plates up, but haven't really gotten a lot 
of use out of them


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VE0KW80/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8=1






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Re: LR file location puzzle

[Igor PDML-StR]

Eric,

From this, updated description, it sounds like that file is NOT in LR at 
all, - since you only see it while going to "import" new photos.

Why do you think it is in LR?

When you are importing photographs that are not in LR, - you see all 
photos stored on your drive. And that the same as what you are 
describing. What's the problem?
If you do not want to see that file in that folder, - in Mac's "Finder", - 
move it to where you want it to be saved (or delete, if you no longer need 
it at all).


Igor


 Eric Weir Fri, 30 Sep 2016 11:51:52 -0700 wrote:


On Sep 30, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Igor PDML-StR <pdml...@komkon.org> wrote:

You should be able to select that photo within LR (in "Library") by 
going to "Folders" panel on the left (not to "Collections").


If you still cannot find it, - under "Catalog" panel choose "All 
Photographs". Then in the menu on top Library->Find (or Ctrl-F on 
Windows, probably Command-F on Mac). In the small "form" at the top 
right, enter the filename of that photo (or a part of it). It should be 
able to find it.


Then, right-click and choose "Remove photo", and from the pop-up window,
choose "remove" (it will remove it from the LR library, but not from the
disk).

And just in case:
You said, that you see it in "Finder", so, you know where it resides on 
the HDD, but in case you have doubts: In LR on Windows, you can do as 
follows: choose the photo, right click and choose "Show in Explorer". 
That will open Windows Explorer in the folder where it resides. I just 
don't know what replaces the right-click on Mac in this case.



Thanks, Igor. The file does not show up in Folders under Library. 
Likewise, if I search for the file—do what you describe in your second 
folder—I get “no photos match the filter.” But if I go to import and 
select my directory as the source the file is there. And Finder has it, 
too.


So LR seems to be of a divided mind—the file shows up in import mode but a 
search doest find it. And so my wonder whether I can just go ahead and 
delete the file in Finder.


As for right-clicking on a Mac, I use gestures on the trackpad. The 
equivalent in that is a two-fingered tap.



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Re: LR file location puzzle

[Igor PDML-StR]

Eric,

You should be able to select that photo within LR (in "Library") by 
going to "Folders" panel on the left (not to "Collections").


If you still cannot find it, - under "Catalog" panel choose "All 
Photographs". Then in the menu on top Library->Find  (or Ctrl-F on 
Windows, probably Command-F on Mac). In the small "form" at the top right, 
enter the filename of that photo (or a part of it).

It should be able to find it.

Then, right-click and choose "Remove photo", and from the pop-up window, 
choose "remove" (it will remove it from the LR library, but not from the 
disk).


And just in case:
You said, that you see it in "Finder", so, you know where it resides on 
the HDD, but in case you have doubts:

In LR on Windows, you can do as follows:
 choose the photo, right click and choose "Show in Explorer". That will 
open Windows Explorer in the folder where it resides.

I just don't know what replaces the right-click on Mac in this case.

HTH,

Igor


Eric Weir Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:37:10 -0700 wrote:

I have a single image file that is of no value to me that I’ve been unable 
to get rid of. It's at the top level of my directory, not in a folder. It 
shows up both in the source and destination windows in import mode. It 
also shows up in Finder. But it does not show up in Library otherwise, 
e.g., I doesn’t show up when I search for it.



I’d like to get rid of the damn thing. It’s a nuisance. It just hangs out 
in the directory, showing up only when I go to import. I’ve spent a 
ridiculous amount of time trying to get rid of the stupid thing within LR. 
Can I just delete in Finder?


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PESO - Perseverance and Passion

[Igor PDML-StR]

For me, this photo is overwhelmed with the passion and excitement:
http://42graphy.org/skating/2016-08-28-performance/_IR35254.html

One more photo:
http://42graphy.org/skating/2016-08-28-performance/_IR35212.html
I am sharing it even though it is soft. I think it is one of those that 
"tell a story". (And that's why I don't want to spoil the effect and will 
pause before posting the story about it.)

But then, I am biased (and I was there to watch it).
Does it do that for you?


I think I am finally getting some handle on photographing 
figure skaters on ice. There are still several things I'd like to improve 
and will try to work on next time. (All critique and suggestions are 
solicited.)


I should probably consider getting some reasonable monopod with a head 
that allows quick and easy flipping between horizontal and vertical 
positions. Speaking of which, does anybody have a suggestion for a simple 
and inexpensive head like that? Alternatively, are there any 
flip-brackets designed for mounting a camera on a monopod? (I am thinking 
along the lines of flash-mounting brackets that easy to flip, - something 
similar for cameras.)


Thank you,

Igor


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Re: PESO - Boats in the Harbour

[Igor PDML-StR]

Brian,

The "single" image is good, but after seeing the panorama, I cannot 
appreciate it anymore: I want to go back to the panorama.

I grealy enjoyed the panorama: there is some "red magic" there.

Igor


On Sep 29, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


The small fishing fleet at Stanley, Tasmania:

http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP7446-K5-1peso.html

I really liked the bright red colour that was intensified by the late
afternoon sunlight.

Here's a larger and wider view - merge of two frames:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PanoramaIGP7447-7449.jpg


C & C Welcome

(K-5 + 18-135 DA zoom)


Cheers

Brian


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PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)

[Igor PDML-StR]

Bruce,

In contrast to #1, this image doesn't show much of muscle tension: the 
position is more comfortable. This pose is more comfortable (and you 
described previously why).


Enjoying watching your work,

Igor


Bruce Walker Mon, 26 Sep 2016 18:26:48 -0700 wrote:

The next in my Body Language series.

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0


645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO;

5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left.

Comments always welcome.

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Re: Photo students today - equipment

[Igor PDML-StR]

It depends on the definition of the word "smart".
I would differentiate between "smart" and "wise".

Kids might lack the experience. And it is the experience that 
contributes (or rather, may contribute) to wisdom.


And then, there could be an additional vector called "knowledge", 
which is also based on some specialized experience. I.e. "knowledge" is a 
specialized version of wisdom.


So, coming back to your statement, Larry: Those kids could be as smart as 
they think; they just may not have a chance to become [as] wise.


Igor


 Larry Colen Thu, 29 Sep 2016 19:36:06 -0700 wrote:

Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Bipin Gupta Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:10:15 -0700 wrote:


Kids are very very smart today ...
Indeed, except that they always are. (i.e. smarter then some [grand]parents 
expect)




And almost as smart as they think they are.


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Re: GESO spider and cocoon

[Igor PDML-StR]

I've been looking at this image for 3 days, and I am still having problems 
discerning the spider.
I think I am finally able to see its eyes (2 with a catch light in each, 
and maybe one more on top with two catchlights, including one orange).


BTW, Larry, did you notice some sort of "color banding" in the background?
When I am looking at the "maximized" verion of the image in Flickr, right 
in the middle (just left of the cocoon), there are bands of two different 
levels of brown.
This might be an artifact of JPEG compression. Or, it comes from the 
dark shadows that are "clipped".


(In non-maximized version that banding is much worse, -- it has several 
steps.)


Igor



 Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 29 Sep 2016 17:39:19 -0700 wrote:

Now, that's a spider!

Nice images of a very interesting subject.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


The caterpillar I photographed a couple days ago seems to have gotten
around to wrapping a cocoon.  However, there seems to be a spider that
thinks it's a pretty nifty MRE.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673270739161

BTW, someone pointed out that what I thought was a spider in the 

previous

photos was probably a mosquito.



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 Bipin Gupta Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:10:15 -0700 wrote:


Kids are very very smart today ...
Indeed, except that they always are. (i.e. smarter then some 
[grand]parents expect)



And here is "proof of the pudding" - my grand daughter is three & a
half years old - she insists I let her have my Pentax K-5 IIs to take
a "pretend" photo. She does not want her Mom's Hi End Canon P


She's already asked her Mom, and got a firm "No!".
She is smart (see above) and knows that the grandpa is a sucker for a cute 
smile and he is less likely to refuse.

Besides, an SLR looks much more "presentable" (from its sheer size/mass).

Cheers,

Igor


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Re: Photo students today - equipment

[Igor PDML-StR]

Mark, I was not referring to you when mentioning a "black and white" 
picture. Rather I was cautioning a potential reader of the information 
you've provided. (And other PDMLers have already started speculating about 
the absence/small quantity of certain categories.)


As for your and others being surprised about your students not hearing 
about 4/3rds or mirrorless, I can offer one (out of multiple) possible 
explanation. My good old friend whose daughter is roughly of the age of 
your students wanted to buy a reasonable camera for his family trip, and 
then for his daughter to take for her study-abroad program in China.
Not being involved much in photography since his student years, he 
automatically thought about SLRs (obviously digital, as he's heard about 
that). Because in his mind there were P's and [D]SLR's. I pointed out to 
him some of the 4/3rds cameras, and he was surprised and happy, as those 
offered him (and his daughter who was skeptical about DSL's weight) much 
lighter photo bag, with the quality and amount of control more than 
sufficient for his needs.


I wouldn't be surprised if some of your student's decision for/information 
about the camera could've been influenced in some similar way by their 
parents.


Additionally, my personal (very subjective) impression is that in the past 
2-3 years, the term "4/3rds" is not highlighted in the advertisement as 
much as it was when it was first introduced. And even the term 
"mirrorless" is not pushed forward too much in the advertisement for the 
mirrorless cameras.



Igor



 Mark Roberts Thu, 29 Sep 2016 14:04:33 -0700 wrote:

Igor PDML-StR wrote:


And that 3.5 out of 12 is close to 30%. It means that if you were to teach
this class again and again, and no other factors would change,
on average you might expect up to 30% of students with mirrorless and up
to 30% - with 4/3rds, and up to 45% with P
Not that "black and white" anymore, isn't it?



I never said it was black and white. I'm just putting out a small
sample of what's going on.

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Re: Photo students today - equipment

[Igor PDML-StR]

Those are curious facts, but there are several important questions 
that need to be addessed before any conclusions (or even suggestions) can 
be made:

1. What type of class that is and for whom?
(e.g. an introduction to major for espiring photographers vs. one of the 
"election" classes for "far-from-major"-s)


2. For most of those numbers his is not a statistically representative 
case. So, very few clear conclusions can be made (Except that the class is 
happening, and you've got some studnets who are likely to be interested in 
photography). With just a dozen of students, the statistical error is 
Sqrt(12) ~= 3.5 So, +/- 3.5 person is your "error bars" for each of the 
numbers you mentioned. (I.e. 0 +/- 3.5 with mirrorless, 0 +/- 3.5 with 
4/3rds, 2 +/- 3.5 with P, etc.)


And that 3.5 out of 12 is close to 30%. It means that if you were to teach
this class again and again, and no other factors would change, 
on average you might expect up to 30% of students with mirrorless and up 
to 30% - with 4/3rds, and up to 45% with P

Not that "black and white" anymore, isn't it?

Playing a party pooper,
Igor
;-)


On Sep 27, 2016, at 6:14 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


A brief survey of the students in my "Digital Photography II" class,
from an equipment standpoint:

There are a dozen students in this class.
2 started out with point & shoot cameras (but are getting DSLRs for
the course)
10 came into the course already owning DSLRs
All Canon or Nikon
All APS-C format DSLRs
No mirrorless
No Four-Thirds cameras
None of the students has even heard of mirrorless cameras
2 students knew about raw files (one of whom shoots raw already)


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Re: LR question - Original photo vs. smart preview

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Bingo!
Thank you Matthew!
That's what I thought I felt, but I just wanted to make sure it is not 
just in my head.

That definitively confirms it.

Thanks!

Igor


 Matthew Hunt Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:24:05 -0700 wrote:

I have not used Smart Previews myself, but you may be interested in
the release notes for the most recent update. It suggests that
previously, disconnecting the full-size files could speed up develop
operations. There is now a setting to use the smart previews instead
of the full-sized images, without having to disconnect the originals.


http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2016/09/lightroom-cc-2015-7-now-available.html

Smart Previews for Faster Performance

You’ve always been able to use Smart Previews in the Develop Module as
a way to edit photos without having access to the original images on
disk.  Astute customers reported faster performance in the Develop
Module when using Smart Previews and keeping their original images
disconnected from their computer.  Now, you can set a Preference in
the Performance tab so that Lightroom will always use Smart Previews
in the Develop Module, if they are available, even when the original
files are also available.

To do so,

Choose Edit > Preferences.
In the Preferences dialog, select the Performance tab.
In the Develop section, select Use Smart Previews Instead Of Originals
For Image Editing.
Click OK and then restart Lightroom.


On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I was wondering if someone know the answer to this question about LR:

I have photos stored on an external HDD (USB 3.0).
I create Smart Previews and 1:1 Previews (both reside on the internal SSD).
I am comparing the following situations: the HDD is connected and 
disconnected.
I wonder if the fact that the original files are available (on the slower 
HDD) slows down the work (i.e. pulling any information from the original file 
on the external HDD)?
I.e. is there any advantage of disconnecting the external HDD once I have 
both Smart and 1:1 previews on the internal SSD?


Thank you,

Igor




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I was wondering if someone know the answer to this question about LR:

I have photos stored on an external HDD (USB 3.0).
I create Smart Previews and 1:1 Previews (both reside on the internal 
SSD).
I am comparing the following situations: the HDD is connected and 
disconnected.
I wonder if the fact that the original files are available (on the slower 
HDD) slows down the work (i.e. pulling any information from the original 
file on the external HDD)?
I.e. is there any advantage of disconnecting the external HDD once I have 
both Smart and 1:1 previews on the internal SSD?


Thank you,

Igor


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Re: The woes of web search

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HAR!

I can achieve that without ANY shutter!


Larry Colen Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:03:06 -0700 wrote:

That's nothing, I can use a slow shutter speed to make everything blurry

On September 29, 2016 8:47:48 AM PDT, Gonz  wrote:

I'm pretty sure I've seen a few Paul Steinquest photos of cars zooming
by, car sharp, background blurry.



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Re: The woes of web search

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\me takes off his hat...

Now, I seem to remember seeing this photo of yours.
And I am slowly recalling that you may have posted it in response to my 
post... or maybe some other one.

My memory gaps keep deceiving me. ;-)

Igor


 Mark Roberts Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:03:05 -0700 wrote:

Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Mark,

I assume you are going to talk about some different ways how you can
use that motion blur (long-exposure photos, (like your recent
street shot with The Knight Bus), panning (photos of cars or bikes).

Just in case you haven't thought about this one: a combination of a
flash and some longish exposure to allow something to be sharp and
something to blur (typically 1/15s-1/30s for people's motion).



In fact, I have thought about that. In 1975 when I took this photo at
my high school junior prom:
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7b900101.htm
:-)



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Re: GESO - Twelve National Park Pano's - a calendar for 2017

[Igor PDML-StR]

Ann, some really impressive images there!
I've been to a half of those places myself. But I've always struggled with 
making the photographs, especially from the 3 canyon parks, as presentable 
as yours. And I could tell, I am not the only one, when I saw the photos 
on the cards and magnets sold at the gift shops in those areas.


Seeing your photos made me wanting to go back and trying again.

Also, I see some clever arrangement of the pano photos on the calendar 
page. While reading your message, I was puzzled: what should be the 
calendar format to accomodate panoramas... ISS! ;)


Thanks for sharing!

Igor



On Wed, Sep 28, 2016, at 11:00 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:


Here are  (just) the photos -

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/National-park-Pano/

Here is how how they will look as a calendar

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Misceandvids/Actual-calendar-Pages-for/

working on this and ebay hasa kept me a way for a bit... I'll try to be
better - but I stillhave 10 calendar pages to do...

Of course I should probably have done this for 2016, don't ya know, but
at least I've done it IN 2016.

ann


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Re: The woes of web search

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Mark,

I assume you are going to talk about some different ways how you can 
use that motion blur (long-exposure photos, (like your recent 
street shot with The Knight Bus), panning (photos of cars or bikes).


Just in case you haven't thought about this one: a combination of a
flash and some longish exposure to allow something to be sharp and 
something to blur (typically 1/15s-1/30s for people's motion).



In case you don't have any handy examples, here are a few photos of people 
dancing to a mid-tempo blues or tango music (I've posted them here before 
in a conversation with Larry):

http://42graphy.org/swing/abp-2011/selected/_IR31133.html
http://42graphy.org/swing/abp-2011/selected/_IR31127.html 
http://42graphy.org/swing/abp-2011/selected/_IR31107.html

http://42graphy.org/swing/abp-2011/selected/_IR31096.html
http://42graphy.org/tango/denvermem-2011/best/_IR30886.html
Feel free to use any, if you want.

Cheers,

Igor


On 29 September 2016 at 00:18, Mark Roberts wrote:


So I'm teaching about the effects of shutter speed in my next class
and I thought Frank Theriault's famous (on the PDML) photo of the
Asian girl on the scooter would be a great example to use.


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Re: PESO - forbidden fruit (safe for work)

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, Ann and John, and all who have looked and commented on the 
fruits and the flowers!


And just in case someone might be confused, - these are not the common 
sweet cherries you get at a supermarket in the US.

Rather, - these are "pie" or "tart" cherries.

The photos of the cherries and flowers were taken in Urals, in the city 
of Chelyabinsk that became very famous in 2013 for the meteorite.




John, to answer your question: Just because I felt like it.
 ;-)

In a way the subject had a playful indirect (but maybe obvious) 
tongue-in-cheek reference to Bruce's message subjects for his great 
photographs.


Cheers,

Igor


 John Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:31:37 -0700 wrote:


Just out of curiosity, what's forbidden about them?





 ann sanfedele Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:42:35 -0700 wrote:


This is the one I meant as being my favorite...



On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I feel obligated to show some fruitful result from the recent wet session:
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-flowers/_IR34589.html

All comments, including critique and suggestions are welcome.

Igor






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I feel obligated to show some fruitful result from the recent wet session:
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-flowers/_IR34589.html

All comments, including critique and suggestions are welcome.

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PESOs: sensual wetness (safe for work)

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Recently, I had a very brief photo-session with these beauties (all 
natural, no makeup):


http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-flowers/_IR34583.html
and
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-flowers/_IR34578.html

Ghm.. maybe this one as well:
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-flowers/_IR34571.html

All comments (critique, suggesitons, ..) are welcome!

Igor


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Re: OT - "We live not to be there, but to be seen to be there."

[Igor PDML-StR]

"Selfies for dummies"
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/250x250/49960672.jpg

And then for more experienced:
https://goo.gl/BJczvV

Cheers!

Igor


 Bob W-PDML Mon, 26 Sep 2016 14:59:54 -0700 wrote:

What they need is a professional selfie consultant to advise them, compose 
the picture, arrange the lighting, perhaps a touch of makeup, and maybe 
push the button at just the right moment. That would improve selfies 
enormously.



Oh, and rather than that dull-looking woman in the pant suit, have someone 
in the background who's orange with candy floss on their head.


B


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Re: PESO: genius hippo-something buckt horny sea

[Igor PDML-StR]

Jostein, Mike and Bob:

In Russia, where the photo was taken, buckthron is cultivated in private 
gardens for the berries. I believe the peak of its popularity was in 
1980s. The oil (aka "Oleum Hippophaes") and to some extent the juice are 
used for very broad medicinal purposes, primarily affecting epithelial 
tissues (cold, selected GI and GYN problems, skin, eyes, ...) so broad 
that one starts wondering if in part it is a placebo effect. :-)


But making that juice or oil takes quite some effort. And it has one of 
the most stable natural "dyes": it takes days to get that orange color

off your hands.

The berries are also used for liquors (I've seen only home-made ones) 
and jams. A few year ago, I bought a jar of Russian-made buckthorn jam at 
an international food store in the US.


Brian and Alan:

Yes, DOF is a good point.
I didn't have much time while taking the photo for stacking. 
But I should've thought about the DOF, as I had room to dial down the 
aperture (it was at f/5.6).



Thanks to all who looked and responded!

Cheers,

Igor


 Brian Walters Mon, 26 Sep 2016 14:53:00 -0700 wrote:


You had me going there for a while - missed the PS initially :-)

Nice contrasting colours there. I agree with alan about DOF.

Cheers

Brian





 Jostein Mon, 26 Sep 2016 13:00:30 -0700 wrote:

The Norwegian name is Tindved. Alledgedly because the particularly hard
wood (ved=wood) was well suited for teeth (tind) in rakes.

The berries are still (locally) popular for flavouring home made liqours
and jams.

Jostein

Den 26.09.2016 21.45, skrev mike wilson:

Major source of vitamin C for our stone age ancestors, apparently.


On 26 September 2016 at 19:54 Bob W-PDML  wrote:


We get a fair bit of that stuff growing alongside the Thames in winter. Keeps
the birds fed.


On 26 Sep 2016, at 18:28, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


[sic!] ;-)

http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-flowers/_IR34688.html

All comments, critique, suggestions are welcome.
Every several years, I am attempting to photograph this subject, 

always
having difficulties, despite (or may be due to?) the bright and 

contrast

colors. I am still to get the one I am fully satisfied with.

Igor












PS. Sea buckthorn, genus Hippophae. ;-)


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Re: Q: How to force LR to refresh thumbnails?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Jostein,


Yes, I think the combination of the sheer number of the photos and the RAM 
is likely the culprit.

I've seen this with fewer images as well.
When I have just a few photos (screen-full, i.e. screen-wide which is 
~25), they do update if I wait long enough. With 900, only those that are 
visible seem to update. So, I can move them 25 at a time (which is only 
about 36 times), waiting in between...


I was just looking for a more practical way, in case I am missing one.

BTW, a similar "delayed-until-in-view" behavior is observed with the 
previews in the "matrix view", although those seem to update somewhat 
quicker...


Thanks,

Igor

PS. What I am trying to do is to cull a smaller set first by a very rough

 Jostein Mon, 26 Sep 2016 12:27:07 -0700 wrote:

Just tried in LR 5.7.1. The way you describe, but with fewer images. The 
thumbnails updates, but in a seemingly random order. Looks like it takes a 
while too; maybe a second per thumbnail.



900 images is quite a number. Have you checked to see what happens if you 
do eg. five? Could be that you're running out of RAM or patience...



Jostein

Den 26.09.2016 16.25, skrev Igor PDML-StR:
 >


I wonder if someone knows an effective way of forcing LR to update/refresh 
the thumbnail previews at the bottom?


I've got a shoot of a large number of photos (900), all taken in basically 
identical setting, and all them had the same problem: they were all similarly 
underexposed by some 1.5-2 stops.
So, the easy starting point after loading them all in LR was to adjust the 
exposure for one of the photos, and then "Sync" with all others. This would 
allow me to make a quick pre-selection (in the Library module) of the photos 
that are worth taking a further look.


What is annoying is that the thumbnails at the bottom remain dark.
I did "Update DNG previews and metadata". Even once it is done, the 
thumbnails are not updated.
The only thumbnails that are getting updated are those that are withing the 
"viewable" range. So, I am moving that line manually slowly to let them all 
update eventually.


Is there a way to force LR refreshing those thumbnails (short of re-importing 
those photos)?


Thank you,

Igor




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[sic!] ;-)

http://42graphy.org/galleries/2016-08-flowers/_IR34688.html

All comments, critique, suggestions are welcome.
Every several years, I am attempting to photograph this subject, always 
having difficulties, despite (or may be due to?) the bright and contrast 
colors. I am still to get the one I am fully satisfied with.


Igor












PS. Sea buckthorn, genus Hippophae. ;-)

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Re: OT - "We live not to be there, but to be seen to be there."

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It's y'all's y'all, y'all! ;-)


 Gonz Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:40:32 -0700 wrote:

And he's misspelling it too.  Its y'all, y'all.  hehe


On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Gonz  wrote:

That is hilarious! And I chide Peter Ng for misappropriating Texan
culture by the use of ya'll.  ;)


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Re: PESO: A bit of fun

[Igor PDML-StR]

Wow! What an interesting Dragon! ;) The shape of the head and the 
"sawed-off" spikes look rather unusual.
Also, the apparent smoothness of the skin is contrasted by the wall 
porosity.


It looks like the camera focused on the wall. Fortunately, the DoF saved 
the shot.


Thanks for sharing,

Igor






Alan C Mon, 26 Sep 2016 08:27:29 -0700 wrote:

A giant wall lizard, Megasaurus ferrous, about a metre long.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/29317505873/

K7 with the DA 18-55 WR at sunset.

Alan C

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Q: How to force LR to refresh thumbnails?

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I wonder if someone knows an effective way of forcing LR to update/refresh 
the thumbnail previews at the bottom?


I've got a shoot of a large number of photos (900), all taken in basically 
identical setting, and all them had the same problem: they were all 
similarly underexposed by some 1.5-2 stops.
So, the easy starting point after loading them all in LR was to adjust the 
exposure for one of the photos, and then "Sync" with all others. This 
would allow me to make a quick pre-selection (in the Library module) of 
the photos that are worth taking a further look.


What is annoying is that the thumbnails at the bottom remain dark.
I did "Update DNG previews and metadata". Even once it is done, the 
thumbnails are not updated.
The only thumbnails that are getting updated are those that are withing 
the "viewable" range. So, I am moving that line manually slowly to let 
them all update eventually.


Is there a way to force LR refreshing those thumbnails (short of 
re-importing those photos)?


Thank you,

Igor


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OT - "We live not to be there, but to be seen to be there."

[Igor PDML-StR]

This morning someone sent me a link to a brief blogpost on Cnet, which 
got me (re)evaluating - (re)thinking certain aspects of photography in 
our lives. The photo was of a crowd in front of a famous politician waving 
at them, while most people turned their backs and taking selfies of 
themselves with the famous people being the background.

 (The link is below, but first the thoughts.)

Over many years of taking photographs, sometimes as tourist (i.e. in very 
touristic places, etc.), - I've been offered by others (friends, 
relatives, bystanders) to take a picture of _me_. ... or rather of 
_me__being__there_.
Not that I was against those (and sometimes I did want some picture, 
especially with friends or family), but I was not particularly ego to get 
those. I wanted to take some interesting (at least to me) of the views 
from that place.
One of the repeated questions/comments I had (usually not from close 
friends or relatives who already knew what I am after, but from more 
distant friends): "Why do you need those? - See there, they sell cards 
with this view already printed."


Why was/am I taking those photos?
1. I enjoy _taking_ them and
2. I enjoy looking at them later, as they remind me of good time I had 
there. And often, aftre many years, I remember the photos I've taken even 
without looking at them: they are a connection for that place, person, 
event. ... even though I might not be in those pictures myself.
(As an aside, - I appreciate the fact of being in some of those photos 
more now, as my daughter is growing up, - so, that she can see her dad in 
those photos too.)


Now, getting back to the conclusion quoted in the Subject of this message.
Yes, selfie is the fad du jour [is that tautology?].
To this date, most of the selfies I've taken are with my SLR (with a 
tripod or a mirror help). But I don't want to judge those people who 
enjoy selfies: to each of his/her own. And to some extent, those people 
aren't that much different from those stranger on the street who are ego 
to pose for you even though they are never going to see that photo. (This 
was a very frequent situation with kid groups in Japan.)



My understanding of the said blogpost is that someone is trying to 
question of how polite it is to take a selfie with a famous person (and 
hence turning one's behind to her/him) as opposed to piercing 
with your eyes and listening.


That brought to memories yet another story. Long time ago, one 
famous Russian poet wrote a song that was "thinking" about a family 
being photographed in front of the monument to the famous Russian 
poet Alexandr Pushkin. The idea was based on the juxtaposition of the 
timelessness and greatness of someone whose fame survived the test of 
centuries, and "todayliness" of the concerns and that-minute problems of 
that family. I remember that a friend was thinking that the author was 
criticizing the family, and that that type of photo was awkward or even 
ridiculous due to the contrast. While I understand that point of view 
(and I personally do not like taking photographs of people (and myself) 
specifically with someone's _personal_ monument), I never felt 
comfortable with that criticism. And I've always thought that the song's 
author was just bringing up the contrast as a way to highlight the 
simultaneous distance and closeness of the great and small, old and 
contemporary, timeless and transient.


But back to today's photo, here is what I am curious to hear from you, 
deal PDMLers:
As photographers with different preferences, views and reasons to take 
photographs, what do you think about what is shown in the photograph 
discussed in that blogpost?
(Please, let's not digress into a political debate about the specific 
politician, so, let's keep the political comments on mute.)


Here is the blogpost in question: https://goo.gl/VC5fU3 .

Thanks in advance to all who will respond.

Igor



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Re: October PUG Countdown

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dan, you mean "UPloaded"? ;-)

Cheers!


Daniel J. Matyola Sun, 25 Sep 2016 10:44:52 -0700 wrote:

I just submitted mine.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:58 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


who is the other one? You? :-)

Glad I know what's up

ann


On 9/25/2016 6:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day, all

Two submissions so far.

Theme: Up

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

Nom. closing date 30 September.



Cheers

Brian


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Re: Peso-Colorado Fall

[Igor PDML-StR]

Jack, sorry, but I think you just didn't ask Google the right way! ;)
Look at the images of birches:

https://goo.gl/HCJ68O

Google for images for "American aspen" and for "European aspen" (or 
Eurasian aspen") - or look in Wikipedia.


American aspen (actually two kinds could be behind that common name)
is indeed very white, similar to birch.
Birch is also white. And I grew up with birches surrounding me. :-)

European/Eurasian aspen is greyish (with a greenish tint).

Sorry, I have to run, don't have time to find the links for those.

Cheers,

Igor


 Jack Davis Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:13:50 -0700 wrote:


Igor, I just ask your birch vs aspen
question of Google and it seems you have the distinction reversed.
Aspen have a "bright white bark"
and the birch a "gray bark."
Glad you asked!


J
Sent from my iPhone

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Very nice and "bright" (mood-wise) image.

I am always confused by the looks of aspens in Colorado: they are so white 
that I am thinking if they are birches.
In my childhood, I am used to see aspen trees with trunks that have more 
greyish-greenish tint. Something like this:

http://www.mypriroda.ru/im/plants_les/big_osina-drozashaya.jpg
I believe that is called "Eurasian Aspen" (or European Aspen), as opposed to 
"American ("golden" or "mountain") Aspen" that (I believe) is in your photo.


Igor

PS. Compare to birches: 
http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/100_0619.html






Jack Davis Wed, 21 Sep 2016 06:40:09 -0700 wrote:


Looking for something appropriate for the season.
Shot several years ago near Ouray, Colorado.
Prefer it in B, but to match the theme, chose this.


C welcome!

Mamiya6, 50mm lens.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1102



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GESO: Sea Lion

[Igor PDML-StR]

Stan,

Nice! I like sea lions.
(And I keep mixing up the names every so often - with seals. -- I love 
those too.)


One (sea lion) has been on the front page of http://42graphy.org since its 
beginning, close to 9 years.


Igor


Stanley Halpin Wed, 21 Sep 2016 05:45:29 -0700 wrote:

A couple of the sea lion I mentioned in the discussion about the K-1…

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p145359574


stan


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PESO - A Lichen Garden

[Igor PDML-StR]

Brian,

Nicely seen and photographed!
I think it would look nice printed on canvas and stretched.
(probably with the print extending to the sides, "gallery wrap")

Igor


Brian Walters Tue, 20 Sep 2016 15:39:36 -0700 wrote:

I spotted this miniature 'garden' growing on a old fencepost:

http://lyons-ryan.org/PESO/slides/_IGP7516-K5-1peso.html



C & C welcome.

(Pentax K-5 + DA 18-135mm)


Cheers

Brian

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Peso-Colorado Fall

[Igor PDML-StR]

Very nice and "bright" (mood-wise) image.

I am always confused by the looks of aspens in Colorado: they are so white 
that I am thinking if they are birches.
In my childhood, I am used to see aspen trees with trunks that have more 
greyish-greenish tint. Something like this:

http://www.mypriroda.ru/im/plants_les/big_osina-drozashaya.jpg
I believe that is called "Eurasian Aspen" (or European Aspen), as opposed 
to "American ("golden" or "mountain") Aspen" that (I believe) is in your 
photo.


Igor

PS. Compare to birches: 
http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/100_0619.html






Jack Davis Wed, 21 Sep 2016 06:40:09 -0700 wrote:


Looking for something appropriate for the season.
Shot several years ago near Ouray, Colorado.
Prefer it in B, but to match the theme, chose this.


C welcome!

Mamiya6, 50mm lens.

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1102

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Re: 5DmkIV sensor almost as good as K-1

[Igor PDML-StR]

P.J.,

I understand and agree with your point that Paul proficienty and 
efficiently using the tools he has. And I assume all people on this list
learned and developed some tricks to compensate for the shortcomings of 
the cameras we've been using. (I can say that about myself even if maybe 
not at Paul's level of proficiency.)


But then when you are (sort of) blaming (or at least seeing it being a 
problem) "most kids today" for enjoying the more advanced features of the 
more feature-rich cameras, I disagree with that.


Technology changes. Nobody is going to say that a writer is not good 
enough if he/she cannot write with a feather, scribing on papyrus, on 
adobe plates  .. or even type with a simple typewriter :-D.


And very few (if any) today's sound engineers would know how to record 
music with a gramophone.


Closer to this list: I think it is pretty much settled that the future 
Ansel-Adamses do not have to carry a wooden box and glass plates.
I am sure it wasn't that obvious when "compact" cameras showed up on the 
market. I would even venture to suggest that even Ansel Adams would have 
switched to a 645Z if appropriate opportunities were presented. :-)


Having said all that, I would fully support you on is that one should 
know his/her tool very well, regardless of what that tool is.
And I think that's what is in the foundation of your being unhappy with 
the "most kids today". But to that, - this situation is timeless: in all 
generations there are and there were people who don't bother learning 
about their tools, just scraping on the surface and being satisfied with 
that. And even for that, - that is a problem only when those people claim 
being "experts" (like the "reviewer" who should not be named). If someone 
is using only some (subset of) functions of an advanced tool and draw 
their pleasure from that, so be it. And if someone has the money to blow 
on a McLaren of SLRs (pun intended) to use for facebook snaps, all the 
best to him/her.


Cheers,

Igor



P.J. Alling Fri, 16 Sep 2016 08:32:52 -0700 wrote:

Paul, you're an old timer who /had/ to develop actual shooting skills, 
because the camera didn't do it for you, giving you a camera that needs 
you to actually do some if not all of the work, results in great 
photographs. Most kids today don't even know where to start if the camera 
can't focus for them. or blast off 20 frames to capture something /close/ 
to the decisive moment. That's what I see to be the problem, they'd rather 
spend twice as much to get something that do most of the work for them. 
The K-1 is three things, solidly built, a great performer, (if you know 
how to use it), and a great bargain. I only hope that's enough to make it 
a great seller.


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Re: 5DmkIV sensor almost as good as K-1

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It's probably unfair to compare sensor performance only.
And we all know some glaring (I almost wrote "gloring") shortcomings in 
Pentax cameras.

And there are some strengths of them as well.
So, if I had three cameras of a comparable class (AFAIK, 5DmkIV is 
somewhat above K-1 in the class, isn't it?), - P, C, N, and I had to 
assign a "fair" price (i.e. neglecting the brand name premium),

that would be a very hard job.

The fully ideal camera will never happen, something will always be 
missing, as you cannot attache the head of Steven to the body of Peter.



Don't take me wrong, - I still like my K-5 IIs.

:-)

Igor


 Larry Colen Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:38:08 -0700 wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:

And at $3500 it is less than twice the cost



https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-IV-versus-Pentax-K-1___1106_1075

When you add the D810 to the mix, it squeaks by on score for slightly
better performance at ISO < 100.

Admittedly, the Canikons do perform slightly better than the Pentax at
some higher ISOs (generally over 12,000).  Realistically, I don't think
many people would be able to tell the difference in sensor performance
in the vast majority of situations. Cost seems to be
Canon  $3500
Nikon  $2800
Pentax $1800


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Re: DFA 70-200 failure

[Igor PDML-StR]

Stan,

Sorry to hear about that.

Just two weekends ago, I was photographing an ice-skating performance with 
the 60-250, staying at the top level of the bleechers.

Then I hear a having piece falling down, bouncing from the concrete floor.
(Fortunately, nobody was right below me, and my little daughter was about 
a foot to the side.)

It was the tripod mount from the lens.
I've never untightened it from the lens. And this time it came off by 
itself. (Actually, I've never looked at it, and if asked, from the 
memory, I  would probably say that it cannot be detached easily, but if 
the screw is loosened, the collar can be rotated.)


I thought I was lucky it wasn't while I was holding the lense by the 
collar.


Igor


On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:



In my recent listing of items soon to be up for sale, I made a passing
comment about the 70-200.

The (Tamron?) Pentax DFA HD 70-200/2.8 is a big hefty lens that balances well
on the K-1 body + grip. It has a detachable tripod mount. It produces
wonderful mages. But…

The metal bit on the back end of the lens that mates with the K-mount on the
body is a thin plate about 1-1.5mm thick. That plate attaches to the back end
of the lens via four small screws (just a little larger than the screws that
hold the sidepieces on your eyeglasses). Those screws go into a hard plastic
(not metal) portion of the lens construction. When one or more of those
screws is loose or otherwise weakened, then the lens body will detach from
the K-mount plate. Leaving the plate attached to the camera, the other 99% of
the lens on the table or floor or ground. You needn’t ask how I know this.

I like this lens and the images it produces, I like the versatility of this
zoom range, I am not ready to give up on it. We’ll see what the verdict of
the repair technician is. But I must say that I am a bit miffed that a
2-month-old $1800 lens should fall apart in the wilds of Alaska with no
possible replacement. ( Off the grid, no way to order another or find a
rental. Too close to the end off the trip, the timing was off, even if I had
somehow smoke-signaled an emergency shout-out to B for a replacement with
next day delivery, it would still have taken 3-4 days to get to me…)

So anyway, for those of you with this lens, be careful. Don’t put undue
pressure on the lens. Do use the lens tripod mount in lieu of mounting the
body and letting the lens hang off. And watch for symptoms of impending
disaster. Reflecting later, I realized that there were signs which I didn’t
pay attention to. Specifically, there were times when the in-camera
viewfinder display of F-stop etc. behaved as though I had an M-series lens
mounted. I.e., no F-stop was displayed. Wiggling the lens a bit would correct
the problem, and to the extent that I gave it any thought I figured I had
dirty contacts. In retrospect, the mounting plate was probably coming loose
and that was causing the display issue. Or maybe I had dirty contacts and
this wasn’t symptomatic of an impending failure. I don’t know.

I don’t abuse my camera equipment, but I also don’t treat my gear as though
it were egg-shell delicate jewelry. It bugs me that I may not be able to
trust this lens after it is repaired and I will probably trade up if/when
Pentax offers a 70-200 in lieu of what is said to be a rebranded Tamron.

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Re: PESO - jigsaw

[Igor PDML-StR]

I see.

And just as a followup thought (which is probably obvious): I didn't mean 
that dance experience of a model is needed (even though it could be a big 
added bonus). And in reverse, I am not sure that all good dancers would 
make good models.


After having written, a constructive idea came to my mind:
I am thinking if the same shot as you did would work better if 
the models where lying (horizontally), while the camera would be right 
above them. That would allow an easier back-curve "matching", while avoiding 
unnecessary strain.


But then, it might be harder to accomplish, unless you have some type of 
gantry or a boom lift in the studio (or a 2-level loft with a balcony).


... but the models you have are better than that equipment. :-)

Igor



 Bruce Walker Fri, 09 Sep 2016 11:09:18 -0700 wrote:

Zooming right to the point, I agree with you, Igor, that the more
relaxed the posing the better the results. And harmony is certainly
what I hope to get if possible. I thought that my two models did quite
well following my directions, but no doubt a number of factors would
have resulted in falling short of perfection.


Dorrie on the right is 5 inches shorter than Camille, and Camille's
trunk is longer than Dorrie's. Neither of them dances. I put Dorrie on
a step stool then iteratively directed them as they tried to fit their
curved backs together. It likely took over a minute just to get this
one pose.

Oh, and Dorrie and Camille met for the first time at this shoot, 45
minutes before this shot. And this was the first time I had ever
worked with two nude models.

If I had a couple of trained dancers who also worked together, I bet I
could get even a better overall look.

But as they say, the best nude models are the ones you have with you.

:)

Thanks, as always for your well considered thoughts, Igor. Appreciated!


On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Igor PDML-StR <pdml...@komkon.org> wrote:




Cuteing edge photography? ;-)


Bruce,
Nice idea and photo.

But there is something that bothered me when I looked at the photo in the 
morning, and it still does, when I am looking at it again.


You might remember that I've been photographing dancers. And having been 
dancing myself a several different "vernacular" dances, I appreciate the 
ergonomics of the dance. And I am convinced that ergonomic dancing yields the 
true beauty of the dance, both social and performance versions.
Over the years, I've had extensive discussions on this and related topics 
(including photographs of dancers)  with several respectful dance instructors 
from difference dances.


While sharing my thoughts dancers and photographers in my workshops on how to 
make better photographs of dancers (from both sides), I've analyzed together 
with the workshop participants the visible level of ergonomics/comfort in 
different photos. And a couple of relevant aspects of that are: (1) It is 
usually easy to see if the photo was taken in motion (dynamic) or while 
hitting the pose statically.
And (2) in both dynamic and even in static photos, one can usually see how 
ergonomic that pose was. This is especially apparent in couple's dances.



All this long prelude is to describe where my comment is stemming from.
(As it is a rather different perspective than that of your photography.)
We've already discussed the issue of pose ergonomics back in June of 2014. 
So, forgive me for repeating certain aspects of the same ideas introduction 
now, 2+ years later.


Now, to the point:
What keeps swirling in my mind is that in this photo the pose is rather 
uncomfortable for the model on the right.
I might be wrong, but I don't think you were going after tension in this 
case, as I think it was the harmony. I think if the pose were more 
comfortable, the photo would radiate more harmony.

But maybe you had a different intent. Hence my curiousity: Did you?

Igor


ann sanfedele Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:20:31 -0700 wrote:

cutting edge photography :-)

nice

ann


On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Next in my Body Language series.

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY

nsfw: nipples in profile.

645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO

Comments always welcome!





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Re: PESO - jigsaw

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Cuteing edge photography? ;-)


Bruce,
Nice idea and photo.

But there is something that bothered me when I looked at the 
photo in the morning, and it still does, when I am looking at it again.


You might remember that I've been photographing dancers. And having been 
dancing myself a several different "vernacular" dances, I appreciate the 
ergonomics of the dance. And I am convinced that ergonomic dancing yields 
the true beauty of the dance, both social and performance versions.
Over the years, I've had extensive discussions on this and related topics 
(including photographs of dancers)  with several respectful dance 
instructors from difference dances.


While sharing my thoughts dancers and photographers in my workshops on how 
to make better photographs of dancers (from both sides), I've analyzed 
together with the workshop participants the visible level of 
ergonomics/comfort in different photos. And a couple of relevant aspects 
of that are: (1) It is usually easy to see if the photo was taken in 
motion (dynamic) or while hitting the pose statically.
And (2) in both dynamic and even in static photos, one can usually see how 
ergonomic that pose was. This is especially apparent in couple's dances.



All this long prelude is to describe where my comment is stemming from.
(As it is a rather different perspective than that of your photography.)
We've already discussed the issue of pose ergonomics back in June of 
2014. So, forgive me for repeating certain aspects of the same ideas 
introduction now, 2+ years later.


Now, to the point:
What keeps swirling in my mind is that in this photo the pose is 
rather uncomfortable for the model on the right.
I might be wrong, but I don't think you were going after tension in 
this case, as I think it was the harmony. I think if the pose were more 
comfortable, the photo would radiate more harmony.

But maybe you had a different intent. Hence my curiousity: Did you?

Igor


ann sanfedele Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:20:31 -0700 wrote:

cutting edge photography :-)

nice

ann


On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Next in my Body Language series.

http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY

nsfw: nipples in profile.

645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO

Comments always welcome!



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Re: PESO: Arch

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 Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 08 Sep 2016 14:56:49 -0700 wrote:


I can crop out some of the top, although that will mean either cropping the
sides as well, which I do not want to do, or leaving the image a lot wider
than it is high (which is not necessarily bad).


That's exactly why I had reservations about _cropping_ in my followup 
response to Ken's message. I am not that keen on extremely elongated 
images, unless the subject warrants that (such as a panorama).



The scene was backlit, and I had trouble seeing and focusing, so I 
didn't compose it well.


Before you've written this, I actually had thought the exposure was 
handled very well (and I still think that way).




Thanks for looking, Igor, and for your helpful comments.  I must, however,
point out that Ephesus in in Turkey, not Greece.  


Oops! That shows my ignorance.
I was in a rush, and didn't look up what and where that is.
"Ephesus" sounded Greek to me (literally, literally!)
So, having seen a bunch of your photos from Greece recently, I just 
assumed that it was from Greece.

Although, now, having googled it, I confirmed that it _WAS_ a Greek city!
So, the corrected statement should be:

... you've left Greece already, and so has Ephesus. :-)

Cheers,

Igor



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Re: PESO: Arch

[Igor PDML-StR]

Alan,
The brick is something that Dan is unlikely to control. :)

Ken,
I was thinking more along the lines of re-framing. I am not sure if 
cutting at this point would help: it would change the proportions of the 
photo (more panoramish). ... but maybe...


Igor





 Alan C Thu, 08 Sep 2016 08:36:04 -0700  wrote:

It's interesting how people see things differently. The first thing I
focused on was the missing block.

Alan C

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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 5:28 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO: Arch

I agree Igor. Cutting out about half of the blank sky above the arch would
be an improvement by forcing the eye to concentrate more on the arch.


-Original Message-

From: Igor PDML-StR 
Subject: PESO: Arch


Dan,

It's a fine image, nicely taken.
But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to reframe
it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the
top of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal line)?

(And I understand that you've left Greece already...)

Cheers,

Igor


Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:02:08 -0700 wrote:

Architectural detail:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18282482=lg
K-5 IIs. DA 18-135 zoom
Comments invited.




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PESO: Arch

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dan,

It's a fine image, nicely taken.
But from the moment I saw it, I couldn't get rid of the desire to reframe 
it so that the arch would move up (leaving less empty space at the top).
I am not sure, it is likely that that would bring some portion of the 
top of the arch (maybe the top of the head?) to the 2/3 horizontal line)?


(And I understand that you've left Greece already...)

Cheers,

Igor


Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:02:08 -0700 wrote:

Architectural detail:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18282482=lg
K-5 IIs. DA 18-135 zoom
Comments invited.

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Re: GESO -- Memorial Day 2016

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 "Memorable day of labor". :-)
(including post and post. ;-) )

Enjoable photos. My favorite is #5.
I also like #2 &3.

Igor


Paul Stenquist Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:13:48 -0700 wrote:

Nice pics, though. And they're definitely Labor Day.

Paul via phone



On Sep 5, 2016, at 10:54 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

Memorial Day, Labor Day; Potato, Potato.  Yea, I screwed up, but I'm not
bothering to fix it.


On 9/5/2016 10:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Uh, you mean Labor Day?

Paul via phone



Paul via phone

On Sep 5, 2016, at 10:10 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

Memorial Day the unofficial "End Of Summer" in the USA.  On the Coast


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How to do the "edge" in LR?

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How can convert a photo in LR to get only the edges of all objects?

I've asked this question about 2.5 years ago here, and Bruce and Jostein
have offered a couple of ways to do that in PS.
I 've been trying to achieve this effect in LR by playing with the tone 
curve, but I cannot so far.


In essence, I am trying to get this type of image where only edges are 
visible:

http://42graphy.komkon.org/swing/ch-2008/1-selected/IMGP4530_1.html

I've got close to that by essentially bringing the entire curve down, with 
only a spike in the mid-range. That highlights some edges, but

(1) not all of them and (2) it highlights some non-edge areas.

I am starting to think it might not be possible in LR...
Any ideas?


Igor



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Re: Photo puzzle -- Answer

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Dan,

On a serious note, I think it depends on how one defines "art" for 
him/herself. In a very broad scope, I see two main versions:

"aesthetically pleasing creation" or "thought-provoking creation".
I'd say that the "classic art" is most likely (or mostly) falls under the 
former category.

A considerable portion of "conteporary art" falls under the latter one.

At the museum, there was a session of discussion with the museum staff 
right in front of this composition (aimed primarily at kids). - After all 
kids ran out of questions, I asked what makes this being "art". The lady 
essentially escaped answering that question by posing thetorical questions 
in response. Basically, the point was it provokes thinking.

And I agree with that point.
Does it consitute art or not, I am not sure. Not everything that provokes 
thoughts (and in science I deal with those thinkgs frequently) is...



Igor


 Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 02 Sep 2016 12:56:19 -0700 wrote:

\On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Igor PDML-StR <pdml...@komkon.org> wrote:



It is "Contemporary Art".



Sometimes, it seems that "contemporary art" is an oxymoron.

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Re: Spyder Pro 3

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David,

A few thoughts (and please forgive me if some of them are too obvious, - 
sometimes it's easy to omit something obvious):


1. Make sure the color handling is OFF in the printer profile (Printer 
properties, when you do "page setup" in LR):

https://www.breathingcolor.com/000_pfw_user_files/site_uploaded/2/Paul_BC/NoColorAdjustment545.jpg

2. On the RHS panel, in Print Module, uner "Print Job" -> Color 
Management, you have the correct paper profile chosen (Not "managed by 
printer").

The intent should be "relative".

3. In "Develop" module, check-mark "soft-proofing" at the bottom of the 
photo, and then choose the correct paper profile and "relative" intent.

"Simulate paper and ink" -> Check.

This should allow you to see how your photo will look on a particular type 
of paper.
For me, this last (3) step was very important, as the appearance on 
some paper, especially more "generic" (less bright), - was darker then 
what I've been seeing on the screen.

The soft proofing in LR has decreased the gap in the darkness drastically.
I still think that the prints are slightly darker, and the degree of 
discrepancy depends on the paper.



HTH,

Igor


On 9/2/2016 12:53 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

I have purchased a new in box Spyderpro 3 as it will work with 10.6.8,
supposedly. I am having trouble matching the brightness on my iMac
21.5" screen to the print outs from my Epson 2400. The prints are
coming out quite a bit darker than what i see on my screen via LR
version 4.1. Should this help with my woes or will it just help with
the colours. This one has the ambient reciver.

Dave



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Re: Photo puzzle -- Answer

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It is "Contemporary Art". Does it make it "Art"? ;-)

Cheers,

Igor


 Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 02 Sep 2016 10:23:14 -0700 wrote:

So, it is "Art"?

On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Igor PDML-StR <pdml...@komkon.org> wrote:




This is a composition (I am not sure if it falls under the definition of
scupture?) at the Institute  Contemporary Art in Boston.


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Re: OT PESO - Taz

[Igor PDML-StR]

Brian,

It's a nice and fun photos of a exotic (at least for me) animal.
I assume it was taken with a long lens, wasn't it? ;-)

Thanks for sharing!

Igor

PS. I don't know if it is my screen or what, but the contrast seems to be
just a notch too high...


On Sep 1, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Brian Walters wrote:



Taz (of course!) was the Tasmanian Devil made popular in the 1960s
"Looney Tunes" cartoons. With his ravenous appetite, short temper and
ferocious growl, Taz was a fearsome creature.

My Taz is much more cute

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGO4118-EM10-1b-peso.html


Cheers

Brian


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Re: Photo puzzle -- Answer

[Igor PDML-StR]

Ann and Mike came closest to the right answer.

This is a composition (I am not sure if it falls under the 
definition of scupture?) at the Institute  Contemporary Art in Boston.

(That's why I thought Mark and a few others might be familiar with it.
It is a aboute 1 sq. meter cube consisting exclusively of needles.
https://www.icaboston.org/art/tara-donovan/untitled-pins
There are no magnets involved (although I expect the needles themselves 
might be slightly magnetized). The needles are held primarily by friction.


They do not allow visitors touching it.
I've been told that the composition is reassembled by staff every few 
months.
I almost walked into it, as (unlike in the photo on the webpage above) it 
is in the middle of the room.



I hope you enjoyed this puzzle.

Cheers,

Igor



 ann sanfedele Thu, 01 Sep 2016 05:32:04 -0700 wrote:

I was thinking a haystack of needles - perhaps something magnetic gripping 
little sewing pins?



ann


On 9/1/2016 1:56 AM, mike wilson wrote:

The equivalent of "needle in a haystack" in Bizarro world.



On Wed, 31 Aug 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I came across this relatively recent shot.
And I thought it might be a good puzzle for those who haven't seen it in 
person. (I assume that at least 1-2 PDMLers have seen it, - if so, - please 
don't spoil the fun for others prematurely.)


http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle_IR32392.jpg

Cheers,

Igor



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Re: OT but worthy: Any ideas for a camera for a disabled person?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Yet another idea: How about a tablet?
The controls are so simple that even a clumsy 3-4-year-old kid can manage.

One can research which ones offer a better camera, as some of them are 
rather slow (shutter-speed-wise), probably due to the limited ISO.


Igor



Paul Stenquist Wed, 31 Aug 2016 16:26:34 -0700 wrote:

Easy. An iPhone 6S Plus or the latest large Samsung phone. Good pics, 
minimal

effort.


Paul via phone

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Photo puzzle

[Igor PDML-StR]

I came across this relatively recent shot.
And I thought it might be a good puzzle for those who haven't seen it in 
person. (I assume that at least 1-2 PDMLers have seen it, - if so, - 
please don't spoil the fun for others prematurely.)


http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle_IR32392.jpg

Cheers,

Igor

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Re: 2 PESOs: Looking from above

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Hi Paul,

Thank you for the suggestion.
From the values you posted and from the outcome, I am guessing you 
effectively boosted the contrast (and brought down the brightness just a 
bit).


For this first photo, I purposely did not push the contrast all the way 
up, keeping it more "pastel" (which in my mind has some correlation with 
"pastoral").
I am looking at the two versions side-by-side, and I think I still like 
the my version (more subtle) a bit better.


I wonder what others think. (If you don't mind, please don't remove your 
version immediately so that people can say what they think.)



Igor


 Paul Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:15:33 -0700 wrote:

Igor -

I fiddled with the first one in PS Elements with just the Histogram Levels 
and came up with this...



https://app.box.com/s/ff2j9uihge0d22gfpb1j9nwn45nyvgpy

Black point = 12
White point = 212
Mid-tones = .65

I'll remove this in 24 hours...sooner if you desire.

-p

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Re: 2 PESOs: Looking from above

[Igor PDML-StR]

Bruce,

Thank you for the suggestions.
Yes, I am using "clarity" slider in LR extensively for this types of 
shots. (And in this case it is either maxed out or close to that).
I am stuck with LR <= 5.x, because of the 32-bit Windows that I have on 
hand right now. So, the "haze" slider is not practical at this point.


Could you please clarify how you do "midtone contrast" as opposed to 
general contrast (in LR)?


Thank you,

Igor


 Bruce Walker Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:37:18 -0700 wrote:

The Clarity slider in Lightroom works miracles (almost). The new
dehaze slider might do even better here.


Lacking those, a combination of midtone contrast and unsharp filtering
with larger radius and smaller strength values can also achieve
clarity. Watch out for halos, of course.


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Re: 2 PESOs: Looking from above

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Jack,

Your suggestion raises a few good questions: is a haze filter effective 
through an airplane window?
(You probably know that polarizers shouldn't be used through the 
airplane windows.)


I've seen people advising using it even on the plane,
but I still had doubts: A haze filter limits UV, but I would assume 
the airplane window should filter those out already.


I just googled this question, and it turns out that windows on planes 
do not block "UVA" which is the long-wave UV (315 - 400 nm).
It turns out that even car's side and rear windows don't block UVA (only 
the windshield does that is specially treated for that.)


The spectral properties of the haze (and "UV") filters, see e.g. the 3rd plot at
https://ww2.chemistry.gatech.edu/~nmakarov3/INTERESTS/Photo_Filters/index.htm 
, indeed confirm that haze filters are effective in that range of 
wavelengths.




Now, yet another question: how effectiveness of a haze filter compares 
to post-processing?


I assume it is, but I'd be curious to hear if someone has a more solid 
evidence or experience.


Igor





 Jack Davis Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:10:00 -0700 wrote:


Haze filter? I realize, at this point, that I haven't even thought of a
haze filter since the days 15 to 20 years ago when I was traveling the 
higher

elevations in Colorado, Wyoming, California, etc..
Here I do see the obvious hazy, along with a dull, pinkish/purple.(??)


J

- Original Message -----
From: "Igor PDML-StR" <pdml...@komkon.org>
To: "PDML" <PDML@pdml.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:49:23 AM
Subject: 2 PESOs: Looking from above

I like taking photographs from airplanes. It is usually not that simple, as 
the contrast is decreased drastically. And not everything is "photogenic". 
:-) So, the yield is usually very low.


Here are a couple of very different pictures taken during my recent trip to 
Europe:

1. Very pastoral view from Czechia (vicinity of Prague):
http://42graphy.org/misc/Czechia_IR35068.jpg

2. Very industrial view of Frankfurt:
http://42graphy.org/misc/FRA_IR35077.jpg
This had extremely low contrast, I think I was able to push all I can (with a 
combination of contrast boosting,  "clarity" in LR [unsharpen filter AFAIK], 
and sharpening).
However, the history shows that I am wrong and PDMLers were able to suggest 
some further improvements. So, I'd appreciate those suggestions.


All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor




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2 PESOs: Looking from above

[Igor PDML-StR]

I like taking photographs from airplanes. It is usually not that simple, 
as the contrast is decreased drastically. And not everything is 
"photogenic". :-) So, the yield is usually very low.


Here are a couple of very different pictures taken during my recent trip 
to Europe:

1. Very pastoral view from Czechia (vicinity of Prague):
http://42graphy.org/misc/Czechia_IR35068.jpg

2. Very industrial view of Frankfurt:
http://42graphy.org/misc/FRA_IR35077.jpg
This had extremely low contrast, I think I was able to push all I can 
(with a combination of contrast boosting,  "clarity" in LR [unsharpen 
filter AFAIK], and sharpening).
However, the history shows that I am wrong and PDMLers were able to 
suggest some further improvements. So, I'd appreciate those suggestions.


All comments and suggestions are welcome!

Igor


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Re: OT PESO - Red Sky in the Morning...

[Igor PDML-StR]

Brian, wow!

What a great shot! It's worth framing. I'd consider metallic paper (if 
only its gamut wouldn't be too limiting for these gorgeous colors).


Igor

PS. I am catching up after travels.


Brian Walters Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:25:44 -0700 wrote:

G'day all

Back in May, we had just arrived in Melbourne (off the vehicular ferry
from Tasmania) as dawn was breaking and Melbourne put on this brief, but
spectacular, display for us.


I just had time to pull over and grab this shot in (I think) Bay Street.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGO4941-EM10-1-peso.html

(OT because it was shot with the Olympus E-M10)



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Storm over the D'Entrecasteaux Channel - Monochrome Version

[Igor PDML-StR]

Brian,

I like the B version much better.

I hadn't seen the original thread until just now, while writing this 
message. So, I saw the B version first.
I even thought that the "original" was actually a dirivative - colored 
with a "creative" filter, and went back to reread your message to verify 
that I understood it correctly.

(I admit, it was before 8am, so, I was still waking up.)

B is more interesting, more dramatic.
I wanted to see it on a larger scale. So, I zoomed in using the browser.
At that scale, the colored version is fine, and it can stand on its own. 
And it delivers a different mood.

But I still prefer the B version.

(And I just thought that the dramatism of the B version reminds me of 
one of the B storm images of Dan Matyola. [You know that guy, don't ya? ;-) ])


Igor

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Brian Walters wrote:


Larry wondered:

"I can't help but wonder what sort of tonality it would have in black
and white, it could be amazing, or it could suck."

So I hit it with Silver Efex Pro 2 and here's what I got:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_
IGP7858-K5-1b-bw.html

And the original:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_
IGP7858-K5-1-peso.html

So, sucky or??


Cheers

Brian


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Re: Curation gallery on facebook

[Igor PDML-StR]

“Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to."
"I don't much care where –"
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go.”
― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland


Hi Larry,

There are a bunch of nice photos there, and there are a few that you might 
want to remove from that collection if you consider it as a portfolio.


However, I'd like to share some thoughts about the approach.
Which photos you want (or don't want) to include depends on the purpose of 
the portfolio.
It is like with your resume (or CV): if you are applying for a job it 
would be of one kind (and then it could be considerably different for 
different jobs). If that is for introducing you at an event or for a 
publication, - it would be very-very different.
The same with the portfolio. I can see a few possible reasons for that 
portfolio:

1. To introduce who you are as a photographer.
2. To solicit photo jobs/assignments (then it would depend on what type of 
work/genre you want).
3. To have it just as an exhibit of your work (like something you'd 
exhibit at a gallery).

4. ... ?

Defining that would help people (and yourself) determining which photos to 
keep.


(Sorry, I won't be able to "vote" myself, as I do not have active FB 
presence.)


HTH,

Igor



Larry Colen Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:18:02 -0700 wrote:

In the department of WTF, and so I'd have a gallery of my best work, 
rather than just "best of the night" event photos, I just posted a gallery 
on facebook of photos that are candidates for the portfolio I carry around 
to show off my work. It covers about 8.5 years worth of my work so it's 
pretty big (211 frames).



If you have time and inclination to look through it, and vote with your 
"likes" on the ones you think are worth showing off, that would be 
awesome. The problem that I face is that I've looked at so many of these 
photos so many times that I can no longer look at them objectively. For 
that matter I can barely even "see" them as photos any more.



https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10154530385009673.1073742196.653299672=1=5b290f1b31

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Re: Paypal question

[Igor PDML-StR]

Bill,

While I haven't dealt with this myself, you have very little control of 
how the payer is charged. I am aware of the situation when a person in 
Russia was trying to pay for something charged in USD (to a US-based 
company). So, he used his bank account that was in USD. But because his 
account's address was in Russia, he was charged in roubles, charged a 
currency conversion (RUB->USD) fee, and then the bank has also charged him 
a currency conversion fee (USD->RUB). So, this person ended up paying a 
double-conversion fee.

I am not sure how and IF that can be avoided in that situation.
One has to read Paypal's TOS and all the fine print, and possibly talk 
with their customer support.


I suspect that the best you can try in this situation for yourself is to 
specify the amount in CAD. (As Mark C. has suggested.) Can you "invoice" 
him via Paypal?


And yes, beware of the seller's fee (some %) that Paypal will take from 
that amount.


HTH,

Igor


On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Bill wrote:


Ive managed to find a buyer for my DA70mm lens, finally.
What I'm wondering, can the buyer specify the payment to be made in Canadian
funds? He is from the USA.
It seems to me that when Paypal has to convert American dollar payments to
Canadian funds, I get dinged a few percent. I'm hoping to avoid that by
having the purchaser specify he is paying in Canadian funds.

thanks

bill


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Re: OT would you keep your eyes out for me for...

[Igor PDML-StR]

Ann,

I am not sure if this would be a reasonable solution or not, but just in 
case:
There is a 3rd party cartridge sold on amazon for $6.89 (With free 
shipping):

https://www.amazon.com/LD-Remanufactured-Replacement-T059620-Cartridges/dp/B0045ZSRO2

I have no idea about it's quality and reliability, but if you are 
desperate, maybe it's worth a try? I've never used refilled cartridges for 
my Epson R2880.


Good luck!

Igor


ann sanfedele Tue, 02 Aug 2016 08:37:32 -0700 wrote:


 Epson Inkjet Cartridge Light Magenta T059620 (for R2400)


I lost out on a $5.50 buy on ebay - I've been having perfectly good 
results with out of date Epson inks but at the moment I can't



find a light Magenta - would like not to have to pay retail for it If you 
come across one IRL or see one on line a heads up would be appreciated



as of a few minutes ago it was no go.

anything up to $10.00

thanks!

ann


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Photographing on ice

[Igor PDML-StR]

... well, on a skating rink.

[Preamble]
About 9 years ago, I've started photographing in very challenging 
conditions: dancers on a dimly-lit dance floor. That's when I had to 
develop certain (new for me) approaches and tricks in the procedure.

And many of you have seen Larry and me discussing some of those.
I've given several workshops on photographing dancers and dancing so that 
you would appear well on photographs, where some of the discussed topics 
were related to the low-light tricks.


I should mention how great it feels after all that, to photograph in 
bright-light conditions, where you can have much larger latitude in your 
settings (i.e. choose what to bump up: aperture, speed, dial down ISO, 
...)

[/preamble]


Now, here is the main story.
Recently, I've got new challenging conditions.
About 11 months or so ago, I've started photographing people on a skating 
rink. Even though the light is usually not as low, I've found that it is 
the condition that is also rather challenging.


The main challenges are with relatively wide dynamic range and with the 
proper color balance.
1. The ice, and white sides of the scating rink produce a relatively 
bright background. This makes it easy to underexpose the 
skaters. And the ice doesn't seem to work well as a reflector, i.e. I have 
to do "fill-in" in post for the faces.


2. The color gamma of the lights, and I am still trying to 
understand this, - is somewhat strange. If I am photographing on AWB, I am 
getting some color cast that I am having problems to describe. It is 
yellowish (or greenish?), or at least it seems that way to me.

I suspect it originates from the combination of lights used in the arena.
And I am yet to determine (I keep forgetting to look carefully) what types 
of lights (and accordingly, their temperature)  they are using.
I am guessing it might be due to the mixed temperatures of light, or a 
combination of the light temperature with the whiteness of the ice...
Maybe I am not diagnosing it correctly yet, - I am still thinking about 
it.

And I've observed a similar effect on another skating rink, in Austin.
If anybody has had experience with photographing on skating rinks, I'd 
appreciate your tips and thoughts.



Thanks,

Igor


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Re: PESO - Hoverfly portrait

[Igor PDML-StR]

Wow!

Amazing!

I am stunned! (... luckily, - by the image, no by the insect.)

Igor



On 30 Jul 2016, at 23:01, Jostein wrote:



This is becoming fun. :-)
K-5, Bellows at about 11 cm extension, Wild 4X microscope lens.
100 exposures over 4 mm. Stacked in Zerene Stacker.

http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/hoverfly-portrait/

Jostein





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Re: Some Pentax sales spotted, including 70-200/2.8

[Igor PDML-StR]

Stan,

You raised an interesting question.
 The thought of the ultrasound being heard by some animals/birds had 
crossed my mind before. I had not got to read about that actual design of 
the motor until your post nudged me.
 Prior to that I was somewhat dismissing "ultrasonic" assuming it could've 
been just a marketing term that has nothing to do with the original 
meaning of the word (as "Nano" i-Pod :-) ). But no, it looks like the 
motor indeed may be using vibration at ultrasonic frequencies (above 20 
kHz). I'd be curious to know which frequencies they actually use.


I have never been exposed to any work with ultrasound (short of ultrasonic 
cleaners and patient side of ultrasound imaging). From the general 
principles, I'd say it should be easy to damp those vibrations to avoid 
"leakage" to the outside, but I don't know if anybody cared about that.


In principle, the body of the lens should attenuate the ultrasound 
drastically. But only a careful measurement could tell for sure.

Or you can watch how a bat reacts when you activate AF in your SDM lens.
:-)
I'll try to do that next time I am at a zoo with bats (although they are 
usually behind the glass, so it is not a "clean" experiment).


Got a barn with bats? ;-)

Or, if you have a friend who is an ultrasound imaging technician, bring 
your camera with the lens, and activate AF near the imaging "probe".
If you see some distortions of the image (AF on vs. AF off), you have 
leakage. If you don't, - it's inconclusive: it might be that the 
frequency ranges are too different, and the imaging instrument is not 
sensitive to the SDM's frequency.



Cheers,

Igor


 Stanley Halpin Thu, 28 Jul 2016 06:06:36 -0700 wrote:

I went to Wikipedia to see if they could tell me what an ultrasonic motor 
is, how it works, and whether it can be heard.



That last point was my first question actually. Seeing the term 
“ultrasonic” triggered the thought that the sonic may be “ultra” with 
respect to human hearing, but maybe birds and other animals can hear and 
be alerted by the ultrasound? I suspect probably not, but Wikipedia did 
not address this.


The Wikipedia article is written for someone with a technical background 
and I found it unintelligible. However, they do include a list of common 
application of this technology, autofocus lenses, pioneered by Canon. With 
several other companies now using the technology under various names 
including Sigma HSM, Tamron USD, PZD, Nikon SWM, Olympus SWD, and Pentax 
SDM.


stan

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Some Pentax sales spotted, including 70-200/2.8

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi All,

Just in case someone is shopping for lenses...
B has some sale on Pentax items. I don't know how good all the prices 
are, - but D FA* 70-200mm/2.8 is only $1696, which is $100 lower than what 
is was going for (1800).

Adorama has the same price for this lens.

Here are other sale items:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/items/ci/32002/ipp/48/N/3638625979/view/GRID

HTH,

Igor



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How quickly does Lulu deliver calendars?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Several PDMLers have purchased PDML calendars from Lulu recently.
I was wondering, - how quickly did you receive it after the order was 
placed?


Thank you,

Igor


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Re: Amazon's amazing marketing!

[Igor PDML-StR]

John,

I Wouldn't buy anything serious (such as a lens) from the sellers with the 
rating below 95% on Amazon... maybe 90-some, if I really needed...

89% is too low.

Just in case: check Resellerratings.com for the sellers' names. Often, 
many Amazon sellers have their own store, and could be rated for those.


Regarding SMCP-FA 35mm/2.0, - I wouldn't buy that at the prices listed for 
the new ones (635, 904, 999, 1862) - those are ridiculous.


If you decide to go with that one, - drop me a line, - I have one that I 
barely used, as it got replaced in my bag quickly with the Limited.

So, I might consider selling mine.

Igor



On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:59 PM, John wrote:


Ok, so which one would you recommend from these selections available through
Amazon:

Pentax SMCP-FA 24mm f/2.0 AL(IF) - Used $819.99 (East Shore Medical Supply
Inc - 89% positive).
http://tinyurl.com/FA24-f2

Pentax SMCP-FA 35mm f/2.0 AL Lens with Case and Hood - 4 New; 3 used
(various sellers)
http://tinyurl.com/FA35-f2

Sigma 20mm f/1.8 EX DG RF - New? - $629.00 (Portable Guy - 99% positive)
2 new; 4 used; 1 refurbished  - the other new one is from 47th Street Photo.
http://tinyurl.com/Sigma20-f1-8

Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG HSM Lens for Pentax  - New $899.00 (sold by Amazon.com)
http://tinyurl.com/Sigma-35-f1-4

I'm looking for a fast, wide lens that will work on the K1 full-frame.

Anyone chime in if they know anything I should be aware of *OR* BEWARE OF
about either the lenses or the sellers.



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Re: I want that from Pentax: Nikon Portrait Prime 105mm f/1.4E Lens

[Igor PDML-StR]

Right you are!
Thanks for correcting.

When I was writing that response, my own lenses (aka eyes) were wide open 
and unfocused (dialted). I thought something was off, but didn't take a 
careful look at Boz's page on which I was checking the manufacturing 
dates.


It's the 77mm that is f/1.8.

Larry, - when I was saying I wasn't sure if Samyang lens is FF, I meant 
specifically the 85-mm one.
And I do agree, that if Pentax is unable or unwilling to invest in 
resurrection of older lenses or creating new ones, they could cooperate 
with Samyang. There is a caveat there: some lenses designed for MF might 
be hard (or even impossible) to adapt to AF without such serious 
modifications that would defeat the purpose.


Cheers,

Igor



 P.J. Alling Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:29:02 -0700 wrote:

Actually that would have been a FA 85mm f1.4. The 1.8 was a pre A lens. 
The Samyang 85mm f1.4 gets very good reviews and is very inexpensive 
compared to a modern autofocus f1.4 portrait lens.



On 7/27/2016 12:19 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




The last 85/1.8 was produced by Pentax in 2004. That's 12 years ago!
And it's 20% shorter and half a stop slower.

Samyang lenses are reportedly good, but they are not AF. (And I don't 
remember if they are FF. Not that it matters for at this time, ... until I 
got K-1).


Igor


... and the last 135 mm was produced by Pentax in 2000!

Igor



J.C. O'Connell Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:04:45 -0700 wrote:

85mm f1.8  close enuff


On 7/27/2016 10:45 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

I just received a notification  from B
Something like that from Pentax would be great!

Igor

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Re: I want that from Pentax: Nikon Portrait Prime 105mm f/1.4E Lens

[Igor PDML-StR]

The last 85/1.8 was produced by Pentax in 2004. That's 12 years ago!
And it's 20% shorter and half a stop slower.

Samyang lenses are reportedly good, but they are not AF. (And I don't 
remember if they are FF. Not that it matters for at this time, ... until I 
got K-1).


Igor


... and the last 135 mm was produced by Pentax in 2000!

Igor



 J.C. O'Connell Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:04:45 -0700 wrote:

85mm f1.8  close enuff


On 7/27/2016 10:45 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:

I just received a notification  from B
Something like that from Pentax would be great!

Igor

Sent from mobile phone





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I want that from Pentax: Nikon Portrait Prime 105mm f/1.4E Lens

[Igor PDML-StR]

I just received a notification  from B
Something like that from Pentax would be great!

Igor

Sent from mobile phone




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Re: Amazon's amazing marketing!

[Igor PDML-StR]

Amazon is actually one of the leaders (if not THE leader) of producing the 
suggestions of the "related" products (to those that you've looked at).


It's actually one of the strategies for the search when you have only a 
vague idea of the object you are trying to find (buy): you search for 
something that is sort-of close. Then you look at what's related. By 
clicking on the suggestions that are closer to what you are looking for, 
you generate even closer suggestions.


I am not seeing any particular sale for Pentax anything on Amazon...

Igor


P.J. Alling Tue, 26 Jul 2016 13:24:08 -0700 wrote:

I remember reading about Zubaz, (pants), but had no idea what exactly they 
were, so I did a search on Google...



Now Amazon keeps trying to sell them to me, at least once a week.


To keep this on topic, Amazon is also having a sale on Pentax Glass, and 
Amazon has also notified me about that as well.



It seems, to me at least, that Amazon email marketing is just slightly 
more focused than cold calling names out of a phone book.


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Re: Pentax full frame 28-105 vs 24-70

[Igor PDML-StR]

I am not on the market for these lenses at the moment. But if I were, I'd 
be torn. My current "most universal" lens (i.e. the one that is attached 
by default) on K5-IIs is 17-70, which provides the FOV similar to the 
full-frame camera with 25-105.
 And I am using the wide end much more often than the long end of the 
range. But every so often, I enjoy that extra reach to 70 (105), even 
though the image quality is a bit lower there. If I have time, I am 
switching to 50-135 for the longer range, but for a quick grab, 17-70 does 
a reasonable job @50-70mm.


So, ideally I'd want 24-105. :-)
But with what is available, if the price wasn't in the consideration,
I'd choose 24-70, primarily due to the wide end.
f/2.8 is an added bonus.

With the Pentax film camera, my first and "primary" lens was Tokina ATX 
Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8, and I bought that for the speed and for the good IQ 
optimized for the price. I was missing on the wide end, and that's why I 
bought Tokina 18-35 (or was it 19-35?).


Igor



Gonz Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:20:17 -0700 wrote:

The reviews on B are very positive for both lenses, with lots of
praise for the 28-105's sharpness.



On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Gonz wrote:


Anybody have both of these lenses and compared them?  The 24-70 is
almost 3x the price of the 28-105 and besides the constant 2.8
aperture, is the image quality that much better?



I'm curious too.  I got the 28-105 as an all weather daily driver lens.
Since I already had a tamron 28-75 (not weather sealed), and we've had dry
weather, I've hardly even had the 28-105 on my camera, as I find I need the
faster lens more often than I need weather sealing or a bit more reach.

I will note that even if you don't already have a third party 28-75/2.8 you
can pick one (particularly a used one) and the 28-105 up for less than the
24-70.



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Re: first day review

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dave,

What mode of metering were you using?
(center) spot? matrix? center-weighted?

You probably know this, but just in case:
If you are using a matrix or even center-weighted, and you have lots of 
bright sky in the frame, that can lead to underexposure.
From your description of the scene, it sounds that there could be plenty 
of bright sky (or, perhaps, something else very bright, say, bright-yellow 
field of ripe grains [wheat, rye]).
And, of course, having the sun in the frame produces the same effect, but 
even worse.


The same can happen if you are using spot metering, and the spot (the 
center by default, unless you configured it to match the focus point, and 
that one is to a side) is not on the subject, - you can get the same 
effect.


HTH,

Igor



On Jul 22, 2016, at 3:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:



So i used the 55-300 at the plowing demo yesterday. Hot humid and
dusty day. The unit itself focused quite nicely, it fits well on the
K-5 and my hand zoom barrel stiff but thats fine. Barrel fully
extended makes for a bit of a shaky hand held. IQ and sharpness seem
decent enough. Only thing and i'm not sure its due to the lens or the
camera metering but when using the 17-70 or the 50-200 a +.3 EV
correction is needed. I used +0.7 and all of the DNG's are still way
under exposed. I would normally get a small amount of under exposure
shooting into the sun with my other lenses but every shot, into the
sun or with the sun, is quite a bit under exposed. I'll need to adjust
every one in LR.

Any thoughts on this.

Dave


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Re: PESO - Green Rose Chafer

[Igor PDML-StR]

Jostein,

That's a beautiful photo of a somewhat scary looking beast!
If you sat just a bit lower, you could probably get a catch-light in her
eyes.
;-)

Just kidding...

On a serious note, - photographing such colorful and reflective bugs 
can be challenging under the bright direct sun-light or with a flash.


Igor


On 18 Jul 2016, at 21:55, Jostein wrote:


A beetle closeup made with K-5 and FA* 200/4 macro. Diffused TTL flash on
camera.

http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/hargullbasse/

Still learning to make the most of this fabulous lens.




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