CSCoconut Oil Peanut Butter: New Advances for Alzheimer's

2013-11-19 Thread Brooks Bradley
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/11/07/peanut-butter-coconut-oil-alzheimers-detection.aspx?e_cid=20131117Z1_SNL_MV_1utm_source=snlutm_medium=emailutm_content=mv1utm_campaign=20131117Z1et_cid=DM33821et_rid=339432704

  Some list members might find encouragement for
implementing unprocessed coconut oil
as a complimentary support protocol for Alzheimer's challenges.  The
above-referenced article posted
by Dr. Joseph Mercola's website will furnish some degree of
backgroundplus information on the
general success of other research organizations that are addressing the
problems of Alzheimer,s
presentations.
  I mention this posting,most especially, because of the
VERY SUCCESSFUL results
which we experienced in our evaluations using unprocessed coconut oil as
the CENTRAL ADDRESS
for mildto severe..Alzheimer's insults being exhibited by our
volunteer population.  Our evaluations
proved to be quite successful in mitigating against the progression of
Alzheimer's in 8 out of the 10
members of our volunteer subjects.  We considered these results to be Very
Encouraging.  Our
evaluations ran for one year and were concluded approximately one year
ago.  We do not furnish
ANY FORM of data streams.to ANY  outside organizations
therefore are not beholden to
any outside group--government-based, or otherwise.  I make this posting
simply to encourage
list members motivated by personal involvement or specific interest
inAlzheimer's
challenges manifesting among family members and/or professional
associates-for their direct
investigation into this, particular protocol.   I will state,confidently,
that our measurable success rate
wasessentially..better that 50%in degee-of-remission
(Root-mean-square-average) of the
symptoms among the positive response population (8 out of 10).  While this
study was anecdotal
in nature, the data stream was quite definitive...and objectively
quantified via easily calculated,
repeatable, evaluation criteria.
 Sincerely,  Brooks Badley.
p.s.   Do understand that WE DO NOT RENDER ANY TYPE OF MEDICAL ADVICE AND
DO NOT
PRESCRIBE ANY SUBSTANCE FOR PHARMACEUTICAL EMPLOYMENT.  The information
we post is ONLY the direct results from our EXPERIMENTAL INVESTIGATIONS.


CSCoconut Oil

2013-02-06 Thread Melly Bag
Sol, 
 
I am just like you, can't stand the smell or taste of the vco.  For cooking we 
used wilderness' expeller pressed co but their is more expensive and the 
shipping cost is too high.  It is good you mentioned about TT having a no 
flavor no smell vco.  I will go to their website and check it out.
 
Take care.
 
Melly

CSCoconut Oil

2012-03-24 Thread Melly Bag
We used to make very good  coconut oil with no heat when we lived in the 
Philippines.  
 
Here in the US we buy from wildernessfamilynaturals.com.  They have a good 
choice of different processes of coconut oil.  If you want taste = go for the 
traditional process with heat or no heat.  For cooking with no taste = go for 
their expeller pressed which is further processed in The Netherlands.  For 
ingesting and no taste, like us, we go for their centrifuge processed oil.  We 
use their expeller pressed oil for cooking even frying and there is no coconut 
taste at all.  We abhor the coconut taste.  We use the centrifuge oil for 
ingesting.  No taste.  Bear in mind heat brings out the coconut taste.  To 
melt, we use tap water on a bowl, then let the glass container (shot glass)  of 
the oil sit on it for a few minutes until it is all melted.  Don't use stove, 
it will really taste of coconut and also turn yellow from the heat.
 
Those coconut oils that have seen heat above 80F have lost their vitamins.  The 
best medicinal feature of coconut oil is lauric acid which is not affected by 
heat at all even up to 400F.  Expeller pressed oils are processed using high 
heat somewhere around 4ooF and still retain their lauric acid.  Vitamins can be 
obtained from other foods.
 
Melly
 
 

Fw: CScoconut oil and monolauren

2008-12-13 Thread Rowena
This went direct to Bethany for some strange internet reason.  I thought I 
would send it along to the group seeing that was my original intention.
Rowena

I am a great fan of virgin coconut oil, and I use NiuLife brand, which I 
believe is also available in the US.
It has a very pleasant taste, unlike some others I have tried.
Shelf life is  y  e  a  r  s.
I am currently using VCNO instead of butter, and by mistake I had a jar of VCNO 
that I use for skin on the kitchen bench, and spread that on  my toast.  This 
was not only some years old, but was also not top grade, in that although it 
had been processed as for normal VCNO, the taste had not turned out right and 
it had been sold at a reduced price for cosmetic and soap making.

The taste had not improved over the years, but it was not bad either, and I ate 
it with absolutely no ill effects.

It is remarkable stuff.  Always keep it handy!

Rowena
Who also uses coconut milk and coconut cream instead of dairy milk.

I was wondering if anyone knows the shelf life of raw coconut oil?  I 
have thought about trying monolauren for things at different times - like 
impentigo, etc., but haven't had coconut oil on hand. If I just buy some to 
keep handy will it last for a while? 

   



CSCoconut oil Suggestion

2008-12-12 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Indi and the List,

 About eating pure fat for some reason always tends to trigger my 
gag reflex.


Yes, many things do that for me,  even the Smell of Bad Fat
and Bad Grease.  I can smell them a quarter mile away, it seems.

You might like this, unless you object to eating peanut butter.
That is Good Peanut Butter, No bad Fat.
Only peanuts, peanut oil, and salt.   ( several brands exist, I like Smuckers )

Peanut butter
Coconut Oil
and
Honey   ( one can add a little black strap molasses, if they wish, or 
regular molasses  )


Peanut butter and coconut oil do not mix in flavor.
It is hard to get the ratio and taste just right.
Try,  40 % peanut butter, 40 % coconut oil, and 20 % honey,
or a little more  or less of each.

I ate a full gallon of coconut oil the year I was working on my

EFA profile.  Seems I used 5 kinds of essential fatty acids.

The Reward,  every single item on the test was in the normal range.
It had to be sent to the Mayo clinic, no lab in town could do it.

32 items, if I remember correctly.

My genius doctor and his head nurse of 28 years experience,
had neither seen an EFA profile before in their life. so they told me.

This doctor is a physical fitness nut, and in every room, he has an 
article on health and nutrition

on the wall.

and. finally, I got him trained to think a lot like me,

That was a hill to climb, but worth the effort for sure.


 no problem with eating pure fat.
I really don't use it for cooking or baking, due to concern I'd lose a lot
of the benefit that way.


   I do not cook but once or twice per year, eat virtually no cooked 
food any more.


Usually some okra, corn, or fish, not much else.

I have an original recipe, so I think.

Nothing but okra, bell pepper and onions.  I can eat a skillet full of that.
A large skillet.  Not even sure why I did it the first time.

It must have been what I had from my garden.  No tomatoes.

That is a different item, and a different recipe.  I have an award 
winning recipe of
Okra and Tomatoes, over 100 years old,  I was told by my friend who 
gave it to me.

It was his grandmothers recipe.

Try the peanut butter, coconut oil, and honey, but do not expect to 
get it right the first time.

Experiment with a slight difference in percentages.

Wayne




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Re: CSCoconut oil Suggestion

2008-12-12 Thread Smitty
   I have an award winning recipe of
  Okra and Tomatoes, over 100 years old,

Wayne, is this close to the recipe you mention ?

http://www.texascooking.com/recipes/stewedokratomato.htm

Smitty


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Re: CSCoconut oil Suggestion

2008-12-12 Thread Indi

Howdy Wayne,

I usually just tough it out, it's only a few minutes per day.
:)
I love okra with bell pepper and onions too -- sauteed in ghee 
with garlic...

Cheers,
indi

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 05:36:10PM -0600, Wayne Fugitt wrote:
 Evening Indi and the List,

  About eating pure fat for some reason always tends to trigger my gag 
 reflex.

 Yes, many things do that for me,  even the Smell of Bad Fat
 and Bad Grease.  I can smell them a quarter mile away, it seems.

 You might like this, unless you object to eating peanut butter.
 That is Good Peanut Butter, No bad Fat.
 Only peanuts, peanut oil, and salt.   ( several brands exist, I like Smuckers 
 )

 Peanut butter
 Coconut Oil
 and
 Honey   ( one can add a little black strap molasses, if they wish, or  
 regular molasses  )

 Peanut butter and coconut oil do not mix in flavor.
 It is hard to get the ratio and taste just right.
 Try,  40 % peanut butter, 40 % coconut oil, and 20 % honey,
 or a little more  or less of each.

 I ate a full gallon of coconut oil the year I was working on my

 EFA profile.  Seems I used 5 kinds of essential fatty acids.

 The Reward,  every single item on the test was in the normal 
 range.
 It had to be sent to the Mayo clinic, no lab in town could do it.

 32 items, if I remember correctly.

 My genius doctor and his head nurse of 28 years experience,
 had neither seen an EFA profile before in their life. so they told me.

 This doctor is a physical fitness nut, and in every room, he has an  
 article on health and nutrition
 on the wall.

 and. finally, I got him trained to think a lot like me,

 That was a hill to climb, but worth the effort for sure.

  no problem with eating pure fat.
 I really don't use it for cooking or baking, due to concern I'd lose a lot
 of the benefit that way.

I do not cook but once or twice per year, eat virtually no cooked  
 food any more.

 Usually some okra, corn, or fish, not much else.

 I have an original recipe, so I think.

 Nothing but okra, bell pepper and onions.  I can eat a skillet full of that.
 A large skillet.  Not even sure why I did it the first time.

 It must have been what I had from my garden.  No tomatoes.

 That is a different item, and a different recipe.  I have an award  
 winning recipe of
 Okra and Tomatoes, over 100 years old,  I was told by my friend who gave 
 it to me.
 It was his grandmothers recipe.

 Try the peanut butter, coconut oil, and honey, but do not expect to get 
 it right the first time.
 Experiment with a slight difference in percentages.

 Wayne

 


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CScoconut oil and monolauren

2008-12-11 Thread Bethany Methven
 
I was wondering if anyone knows the shelf life of raw coconut oil?  I have 
thought about trying monolauren for things at different times - like impentigo, 
etc., but haven't had coconut oil on hand. If I just buy some to keep handy 
will it last for a while? 
 
Thanks - Beth
 
In Regards to:
According to some of the reports I've read, it is better to use raw, 
cold-pressed coconut oil than to use the actual monolauren. The body 
will get more usable monolauren that way. Amazon has the right stuff here:
http://www.amazon.com/Nutiva-Organic-Coconut-Oil-54-Ounce/dp/B000GAT6NG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1229014346sr=8-1
It's a bit like eating coconut-flavored crisco, but I understand eating 
just a spoonful or two per day will help.

Cheers,
indi


 


  

FW: CScoconut oil and monolauren

2008-12-11 Thread Norton, Steve
 
From http://www.coconut-clinic.co.uk/newsinfo.htm :
 
The Stability of Coconut Oil by R. Peat PHD 

Unsaturated oils in cooked foods become rancid in just a few hours, even
in the refrigerator, one reason for the stale taste of leftovers.
However, according to Peat, eating fresh unsaturated fats is even worse,
because once inside the body, they will oxidize (turn rancid) very
rapidly due to being heated and mixed with oxygen. Not so with coconut
oil. Even after one year at room temperature, coconut oil shows no
evidence of rancidity even though it contains 9% linoleic (omega - 6)
polyunsaturated acid. Dr Peat theorizes that coconut oil may have
antioxidant properties, since the oil doesn't turn rancid and since it
reduces our need for vitamin E, whereas unsaturated

 - Steve N




From: Bethany Methven [mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScoconut oil and monolauren


 
I was wondering if anyone knows the shelf life of raw coconut oil?  I
have thought about trying monolauren for things at different times -
like impentigo, etc., but haven't had coconut oil on hand. If I just buy
some to keep handy will it last for a while? 
 
Thanks - Beth
 
In Regards to:
According to some of the reports I've read, it is better to use raw, 
cold-pressed coconut oil than to use the actual monolauren. The body 
will get more usable monolauren that way. Amazon has the right stuff
here:
http://www.amazon.com/Nutiva-Organic-Coconut-Oil-54-Ounce/dp/B000GAT6NG/
ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1229014346sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Nutiva-Organic-Coconut-Oil-54-Ounce/dp/B000GAT6NG
/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1229014346sr=8-1 
It's a bit like eating coconut-flavored crisco, but I understand eating 
just a spoonful or two per day will help.

Cheers,
indi


 



Re: CSCoconut oil

2008-07-19 Thread Smitty
 I accidently deleted the recent question about VCO.  Could the poster please
 repost it?  Thanks.  Lisa

Is this the one ?


T. J. Garland noblemet...@bellsouth.net to Rick, silver-list
Anyone try this?   I just started  with  VCO(virgin coconut oil).
Almond and sesame oil were hard to hold for any length of time..  VCO
should work? www.oilpulling.com


Smitty


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Re: CSCoconut oil

2008-07-19 Thread Roger and Lisa Royal
No, but thanks for trying.  It was someone who thought perhaps VCO was 
causing yeast infections.  I couldn't remember if it was a woman.  If so, 
often when you use something against intestinal yeast, the yeasties will 
escape into the vagina and cause a vaginal yeast infection.  Lisa


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From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSCoconut oil


I accidently deleted the recent question about VCO.  Could the poster 
please

repost it?  Thanks.  Lisa


Is this the one ?




T. J. Garland noblemet...@bellsouth.net to Rick, silver-list
Anyone try this?   I just started  with  VCO(virgin coconut oil).
Almond and sesame oil were hard to hold for any length of time..  VCO
should work? www.oilpulling.com




Smitty


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CSCoconut oil

2008-07-18 Thread Roger and Lisa Royal
I accidently deleted the recent question about VCO.  Could the poster please 
repost it?  Thanks.  Lisa

Re: CSCoconut oil

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Re: CSCoconut oil

2008-07-18 Thread M1marine
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CScoconut oil

2008-07-15 Thread zeb caffe
I was wondering if someone had insight or comments about coconut oil. I use it 
to help with dry skin.It is very effective when taken internally. I have been 
able to cut back on skin lotions since using it. I do however notice the side 
effect of what seem like increased yeast problems and also liver pain.I cant 
figure this out. Also does anyone know how it effects cholesterol numbers? Are 
there any studies on this? thanks in advance to anyone who answers. Several 
folks have asked about silver purchased in the health food stores. I talked to 
a manager of a health food store recently again.she told me that she goes to 
seminars  to learn about silver and according to her , the best by far is 
Argentyn brand for purity and effectiveness. Does anyone have any info on Adion 
ionic minerals?


  

Re: CScoconut oil

2008-02-27 Thread Marlene Hanson
Thanks for the information on coconut oil. I buy it by the 5 gallon bucket 
Virgin C  O from tropical traditions. It remains good for over 4 years. It is 
recommended for 3 years. I use it on all of my hot vegetables, casseroles, 
baking and cooking. I apply it to my skin and it is a wonderful healing 
emollient  I appreciate any new used for it and find it is very healthy. 
Marlene 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


  Someone in our coop was having trouble getting coconut down the family and 
found frying sweet potatoes in it worked.  Haven't tried this myself.  I need 
to order more because I think mine is to old.  I had gotten ours from Tropical 
Traditions.

  Dianne
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From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


I thought one could eat it on toast and crackers or take it by mouth or any 
other dozen ways of eating the stuff.  Why don't you go back to Mercola if you 
liked that?  Faith  G.


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  From: Patmailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:56 AM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


  Although Tropical Traditions makes the best lip balm sticks ever and good 
hand soap, I can't stand the taste or smell of their oil (but I haven't bought 
any new in a couple years).  Spectrum brand was even worse (bought that one 
before I knew what to look for).  Coconut Oil Supreme is so light with none of 
that fermented or burned kind of taste.  
http://www.coconutoil-online.com/Coconut_Oil_Supreme_Starter_Kit.htmhttp://www.coconutoil-online.com/Coconut_Oil_Supreme_Starter_Kit.htm
  Another good one I've used was Fresh Shores from Mercola.com.  I want to 
use coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and then, I can't think of 
many ways to use it other than on my skin.  I can't cook with it because 
husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I added some to bran muffins.  I 
wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets so hard when cold, 
wouldn't it just be a clump in the smoothie?


Pat



Re: CScoconut oil - other ways to consume.

2008-02-23 Thread yoga barn
i like to put a teaspoon in my coffee, just need to stir it a lot, but it adds 
creaminess and flavor...yum!  but i am a heavy cream lover in my coffee, could 
never use skim milk.


Rowena new...@aapt.net.au wrote:DIV {  MARGIN: 0px }What I find works 
best for me is to make a kind of  chocolate treat.  I have this for breakfast, 
and it keeps me going for  hours.  
  
 This is a mix of whole, chopped or ground  nuts, dried fruits, seeds, spices, 
coconut in various forms such as desiccated,  or in flakes and strips.  I also 
add plain cocoa and sometimes a sprinkle  of xylitol.  Some people add wheat 
germ.  One could also add things  such as Maca.
  
 The idea is to choose what you want to eat, then  prepare it in such a way 
that you can mix it with coconut oil and set it hard in  the fridge or freezer. 
 In winter you may need to put the oil jar in hot  water until it is runny and 
mix up quickly before it hardens in the cold  air.  That's when it's handy to 
have the dry ingredients ready mixed.   You choose the proportions according to 
taste and availability.
  
 I pre-mix my dry ingredients now, then it is  quicker and more convenient to 
make a fresh batch when needed.  When I  bring the nuts, seeds etc. home from 
the shops, I grind or chop whatever needs  that, such as flax seeds and so on, 
then mix it all in a big plastic  container.  It's as well for me to add 
cloves, ginger, cinnamon etc. at the  same time, or I might forget, and those 
are part of my health recipe also.   Google for the health benefits of various 
spices and make your choice from what  you find.
  
 When I mix a new batch, I mix whatever quantity I  see fit of oil or dry 
ingredients together, adding more of either to get a  consistency that is not 
going to be too dry and so not stick together, but also  not so sloppy that it 
will taste unpleasantly oily.  I find I need the  cocoa to fill in the gaps; 
just the mix and oil doesn't seem to work as  well.
  
 Pretty much the best surface to put it on to set is  the paper made for baking 
with.  I line a flat tin with it, and put the mix  on it.  I separate roughly 
into squares to make it easier to break the  pieces off when they are cold and 
hard.  Almost like Teflon.  Keep it  chilled except when you are about to eat 
it.  After it is set in the tin, I  break it up and put it in a container in 
the fridge.  It will melt and fall  apart if you have it in the warmth for 
long.  It is still edible that way,  and if you need to you can take some of 
the mix away with you even in warm  weather in a screw top jar and have a few 
spoonfuls whenever you  want.
  
 I have in the past decorated each square while  still soft with a date, or a 
piece of frozen fruit such as a raspberry, but by  and large I don't fiddle, 
just get it in a pan to chill.
  
 A little oil on a cold sweet dish such as fruit or  ice cream can be 
interesting for its hard texture, and you could mix spice or  xylitol or date 
paste in with it to have as a sauce that will harden, or  anything else you 
think would suit.  
  
 Myself, I don't use it much to cook, but I might  wipe it round a pan before 
adding olive oil to cook.  I value it too highly  to risk wasting any.
  
 A friend of mine had a way of preparing crumpets by  adding VCNO to a frying 
pan and heating the crumpets in that instead of toasting  them in a toaster.  
This made them kind of soft and plump rather than hard  and crisp.
  
 Another way is to use it on your toast, bread or  muffins etc. like butter.  
You can mix it with butter if you want.  It  does taste different, but it's 
good.  Jolly handy to always have a butter  substitute on hand that doesn't go 
off.  You could also put it in your  mashed potato or cooked vegetables for 
smoothness.
  
 I did sometimes put it in hot cocoa, but the oil  was difficult to manage on 
the sides of the cup afterwards.  Well, not so  much difficult, as wasteful 
where it clings to the cup.  Also, I didn't  quite like the fattiness in hot 
drinks.
  
 Googling coconut and recipe will likely bring you a  host of other ideas that 
might suit.  Laksa with coconut milk is nice -  many different recipes come up 
on a web search. 
  
 Bon appetit
 Rowena
  
  
  
  
  
  I want to use coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and  then, I 
can't think of many ways to use it other than on my skin.  I can't  cook with 
it because husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I added some  to bran 
muffins.  I wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets  so hard 
when cold, wouldn't it just be a clump in the  smoothie?

 


   
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Re: CScoconut oil to zeb

2008-02-22 Thread faith gagne
Try a company called Tropical Traditions.  Faith G

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  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:49 AM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil to zeb


  In case you can get it where you live, Zeb, I will recommend the brand I use, 
Nui, once known as Kokonut.  Sorry, I think that should be Niulife.  
http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/

  I have tried two other brands available here in Australia - one actually made 
me vomit (both ends), although I was already used to coconut oil, and the other 
was just not nice to taste, though I was sympathetic to the people who made it 
and their unusually unfortunate history.

  It was just as well I happened to try Nui (then Kokonut) first, as if I had 
tried the other brand first I would never have continued with coconut oil. 

  I have in the past seen a Canadian or USs address on their website, but I 
can't find it now, just a note to say that they are looking for international 
distributors.  http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/OilSales/OilIndex.html

  I now also buy coconut juice made from young coconuts in a can like a soft 
drink.  It is very pleasant to taste, not sweet like rubbish drinks, and no 
dearer than them.  It comes from Thailand, and has bits of the soft jelly in 
them.  The brand I can get is Chaokoh from Thep Padung Porn Coconut Co. Ltd. 

  I tried to find a website for them, but if they had one it doesn't seem to be 
working now.  But I see there are lots of companies producing the same sort of 
thing.

  Also it is possible to get all sorts of coconut products, coconut sports in 
syrup and so on, trouble being that the syrup is very sweet.

  Rowena
- 

what brand of oil do you use? I have tried several. Havent noticed that it 
helps pain but sure notice that my skin isnt as dry. soomething that I have 
notice helping with knee pain is biosil. I just started using it so I am not 
sure that this is what is really doing it but I plan to keep using it for a 
while. It is supposed to help the bones. 


Re: CScoconut oil

2008-02-22 Thread Pat
Although Tropical Traditions makes the best lip balm sticks ever and good hand 
soap, I can't stand the taste or smell of their oil (but I haven't bought any 
new in a couple years).  Spectrum brand was even worse (bought that one before 
I knew what to look for).  Coconut Oil Supreme is so light with none of that 
fermented or burned kind of taste.  
http://www.coconutoil-online.com/Coconut_Oil_Supreme_Starter_Kit.htm
Another good one I've used was Fresh Shores from Mercola.com.  I want to use 
coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and then, I can't think of 
many ways to use it other than on my skin.  I can't cook with it because 
husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I added some to bran muffins.  I 
wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets so hard when cold, 
wouldn't it just be a clump in the smoothie?


  Pat



- Original Message 
From: faith gagne jitte...@gis.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:34:37 AM
Subject: Re: CScoconut oil to zeb




 
 


Try a company called Tropical 
Traditions.  Faith G

 


  - Original Message - 

  From: 
  Rowena 

  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:49 
  AM

  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil to 
  zeb

  


  In case you can get it where you live, Zeb, I 
  will recommend the brand I use, Nui, once known as Kokonut.  Sorry, I 
  think that should be Niulife.  http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/

   

  I have tried two other brands available here in 
  Australia - one actually made me vomit (both ends), although I was already 
  used to coconut oil, and the other was just not nice to taste, though I was 
  sympathetic to the people who made it and their unusually unfortunate 
  history.

   

  It was just as well I happened to try Nui (then 
  Kokonut) first, as if I had tried the other brand first I would never have 
  continued with coconut oil. 

   

  I have in the past seen a Canadian or USs address 
  on their website, but I can't find it now, just a note to say that they 
  are looking for international distributors.  
http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/OilSales/OilIndex.html

   

  I now also buy coconut juice made from young 
  coconuts in a can like a soft drink.  It is very pleasant to taste, not 
  sweet like rubbish drinks, and no dearer than them.  It comes from 
  Thailand, and has bits of the soft jelly in them.  The brand I can get is 
  Chaokoh from Thep Padung Porn Coconut Co. Ltd. 

   

  I tried to find a website for them, but if they 
  had one it doesn't seem to be working now.  But I see there are lots of 
  companies producing the same sort of thing.

   

  Also it is possible to get all sorts of coconut 
  products, coconut sports in syrup and so on, trouble being that the syrup 
is 
  very sweet.

   

  Rowena

  
- 

what brand of oil do you use? 
I have tried several. Havent noticed that it helps pain but sure notice 
that 
my skin isnt as dry. soomething that I have notice helping with knee pain 
is 
biosil. I just started using it so I am not sure that this is what is 
really 
doing it but I plan to keep using it for a while. It is supposed to help 
the 
bones. 







  

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Re: CScoconut oil

2008-02-22 Thread faith gagne
I thought one could eat it on toast and crackers or take it by mouth or any 
other dozen ways of eating the stuff.  Why don't you go back to Mercola if you 
liked that?  Faith  G.


- Original Message - 
  From: Pat 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:56 AM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


  Although Tropical Traditions makes the best lip balm sticks ever and good 
hand soap, I can't stand the taste or smell of their oil (but I haven't bought 
any new in a couple years).  Spectrum brand was even worse (bought that one 
before I knew what to look for).  Coconut Oil Supreme is so light with none of 
that fermented or burned kind of taste.  
http://www.coconutoil-online.com/Coconut_Oil_Supreme_Starter_Kit.htm
  Another good one I've used was Fresh Shores from Mercola.com.  I want to use 
coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and then, I can't think of 
many ways to use it other than on my skin.  I can't cook with it because 
husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I added some to bran muffins.  I 
wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets so hard when cold, 
wouldn't it just be a clump in the smoothie?


Pat




  - Original Message 
  From: faith gagne jitte...@gis.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:34:37 AM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil to zeb


  Try a company called Tropical Traditions.  Faith G

- Original Message - 
From: Rowena 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: CScoconut oil to zeb


In case you can get it where you live, Zeb, I will recommend the brand I 
use, Nui, once known as Kokonut.  Sorry, I think that should be Niulife.  
http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/

I have tried two other brands available here in Australia - one actually 
made me vomit (both ends), although I was already used to coconut oil, and the 
other was just not nice to taste, though I was sympathetic to the people who 
made it and their unusually unfortunate history.

It was just as well I happened to try Nui (then Kokonut) first, as if I had 
tried the other brand first I would never have continued with coconut oil. 

I have in the past seen a Canadian or USs address on their website, but I 
can't find it now, just a note to say that they are looking for international 
distributors.  http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/OilSales/OilIndex.html

I now also buy coconut juice made from young coconuts in a can like a soft 
drink.  It is very pleasant to taste, not sweet like rubbish drinks, and no 
dearer than them.  It comes from Thailand, and has bits of the soft jelly in 
them.  The brand I can get is Chaokoh from Thep Padung Porn Coconut Co. Ltd. 

I tried to find a website for them, but if they had one it doesn't seem to 
be working now.  But I see there are lots of companies producing the same sort 
of thing.

Also it is possible to get all sorts of coconut products, coconut sports 
in syrup and so on, trouble being that the syrup is very sweet.

Rowena
  - 

  what brand of oil do you use? I have tried several. Havent noticed that 
it helps pain but sure notice that my skin isnt as dry. soomething that I have 
notice helping with knee pain is biosil. I just started using it so I am not 
sure that this is what is really doing it but I plan to keep using it for a 
while. It is supposed to help the bones. 





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RE: CScoconut oil

2008-02-22 Thread bob Larson
the Spectrum CO is what's available at Whole Foods mkt here, and that's been
my first and only experience so far with CO and i like it a lot.  so it gets
better?  good.
i've subscribed to a CO yahoogroup, and various makers (appears mostly to be
from the Philippines) have been very enlightening re the structure of the
nut, processes used, etc, and getting a bit tense between their claims and
arguments.  there's apparently a couple CO extractor companies that make it
for large distribution, and that gets brand labeled with no reference to
know the original source.

i'm just looking for the most stable and medicinally effective at the best
price.  at the link provided, CO Supreme in the 1 lb. bottle is approx the
same price as the Spectrum BEFORE shipping cost.

the CO Supreme is claimed to be rich in vit E.  i learned on the CO group
means the vit E is added as a stabilizer/preservative (which shouldn't be
needed) or the testa (brown layer the meat is attached to) is included
instead of separated from the meat, since the testa contains all the E
(which isn't much at all) and the meat contains hardly any.  there may be
medicinal/nutritional value from including the testa which could be
important, i don't know, but some of the makers think it important enough to
not include it to go to the extra expense of paring or grating it off and
getting the oil from only the white meat.  it seems vit E content isn't to
be included as a significant criteria for judging CO.

if warmed to liquefy and added to smoothie and blended, i would think that
when cold it would thicken it but wouldn't make it a clump unless you use a
whole lot.  i haven't tried it yet, but plan to.  it's nice in oatmeal...
melts in like butter.
  -Original Message-
  From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:57 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


  Although Tropical Traditions makes the best lip balm sticks ever and good
hand soap, I can't stand the taste or smell of their oil (but I haven't
bought any new in a couple years).  Spectrum brand was even worse (bought
that one before I knew what to look for).  Coconut Oil Supreme is so light
with none of that fermented or burned kind of taste.
http://www.coconutoil-online.com/Coconut_Oil_Supreme_Starter_Kit.htm
  Another good one I've used was Fresh Shores from Mercola.com.  I want to
use coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and then, I can't think
of many ways to use it other than on my skin.  I can't cook with it because
husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I added some to bran muffins.  I
wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets so hard when cold,
wouldn't it just be a clump in the smoothie?


Pat


Re: CScoconut oil - other ways to consume.

2008-02-22 Thread Rowena
What I find works best for me is to make a kind of chocolate treat.  I have 
this for breakfast, and it keeps me going for hours.  

This is a mix of whole, chopped or ground nuts, dried fruits, seeds, spices, 
coconut in various forms such as desiccated, or in flakes and strips.  I also 
add plain cocoa and sometimes a sprinkle of xylitol.  Some people add wheat 
germ.  One could also add things such as Maca.

The idea is to choose what you want to eat, then prepare it in such a way that 
you can mix it with coconut oil and set it hard in the fridge or freezer.  In 
winter you may need to put the oil jar in hot water until it is runny and mix 
up quickly before it hardens in the cold air.  That's when it's handy to have 
the dry ingredients ready mixed.  You choose the proportions according to taste 
and availability.

I pre-mix my dry ingredients now, then it is quicker and more convenient to 
make a fresh batch when needed.  When I bring the nuts, seeds etc. home from 
the shops, I grind or chop whatever needs that, such as flax seeds and so on, 
then mix it all in a big plastic container.  It's as well for me to add cloves, 
ginger, cinnamon etc. at the same time, or I might forget, and those are part 
of my health recipe also.  Google for the health benefits of various spices and 
make your choice from what you find.

When I mix a new batch, I mix whatever quantity I see fit of oil or dry 
ingredients together, adding more of either to get a consistency that is not 
going to be too dry and so not stick together, but also not so sloppy that it 
will taste unpleasantly oily.  I find I need the cocoa to fill in the gaps; 
just the mix and oil doesn't seem to work as well.

Pretty much the best surface to put it on to set is the paper made for baking 
with.  I line a flat tin with it, and put the mix on it.  I separate roughly 
into squares to make it easier to break the pieces off when they are cold and 
hard.  Almost like Teflon.  Keep it chilled except when you are about to eat 
it.  After it is set in the tin, I break it up and put it in a container in the 
fridge.  It will melt and fall apart if you have it in the warmth for long.  It 
is still edible that way, and if you need to you can take some of the mix away 
with you even in warm weather in a screw top jar and have a few spoonfuls 
whenever you want.

I have in the past decorated each square while still soft with a date, or a 
piece of frozen fruit such as a raspberry, but by and large I don't fiddle, 
just get it in a pan to chill.

A little oil on a cold sweet dish such as fruit or ice cream can be interesting 
for its hard texture, and you could mix spice or xylitol or date paste in with 
it to have as a sauce that will harden, or anything else you think would suit.  

Myself, I don't use it much to cook, but I might wipe it round a pan before 
adding olive oil to cook.  I value it too highly to risk wasting any.

A friend of mine had a way of preparing crumpets by adding VCNO to a frying pan 
and heating the crumpets in that instead of toasting them in a toaster.  This 
made them kind of soft and plump rather than hard and crisp.

Another way is to use it on your toast, bread or muffins etc. like butter.  You 
can mix it with butter if you want.  It does taste different, but it's good.  
Jolly handy to always have a butter substitute on hand that doesn't go off.  
You could also put it in your mashed potato or cooked vegetables for smoothness.

I did sometimes put it in hot cocoa, but the oil was difficult to manage on the 
sides of the cup afterwards.  Well, not so much difficult, as wasteful where it 
clings to the cup.  Also, I didn't quite like the fattiness in hot drinks.

Googling coconut and recipe will likely bring you a host of other ideas that 
might suit.  Laksa with coconut milk is nice - many different recipes come up 
on a web search. 

Bon appetit
Rowena





 I want to use coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and then, I 
can't think of many ways to use it other than on my skin.  I can't cook with it 
because husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I added some to bran muffins.  
I wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets so hard when cold, 
wouldn't it just be a clump in the smoothie?

 

Re: CScoconut oil - other ways to consume.

2008-02-22 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Morning Rowena,

 At 10:33 AM 2/22/2008, you wrote:
What I find works best for me is to make a kind of chocolate treat.  I 
have this for breakfast, and it keeps me going for hours.


  The imagination helps for sure.   The mixtures can be simple or complex.

I mix only coconut oil, peanut butter, and honey.
Usually eat about 1 pint per week, sometimes more.

I use only peanut butter that has no bad fats, unless one considers the 
peanut oil itself to be bad.


Wayne







Re: CScoconut oil with preservatives

2008-02-22 Thread Rowena
I bought a couple of tins of coconut oil once to make soap.  
My coconut buddy (the one who does the crumpets in CO in the pan) also bought a 
tin, used it like she did the Niulife brand, and said it tasted absolutely 
terrible. 
 They nitrogenised it, rather than hydrogenise like the solid copra-derived RBD 
(refined, bleached and deodorised) stuff (which in Australia at least now also 
contains lecithin to hide the soapy taste when it gets old.)  
I could never find out how safe or bad or whatever the nitrogen would be, but I 
would have expected good coconut oil to stay good in a tin without adding 
anything for freshness.
I still haven't made that soap, either, though I must get on to it - the last 
batch I made from a Hulda Clark recipe is just about gone.  For that one, I 
used a mix of lard and coconut oil, and also added Epsom salts (by mistake) 
and, I think, Borax (as well as caustic soda, of course).  It was great, but 
after a year or so something must have made the salts precipitate or something, 
and the little hard crystals became discernable.  Even so, a friend swore by it 
as being the only soap that didn't affect his skin negatively.

Rowena

 i learned on the CO group means the vit E is added as a 
stabilizer/preservative (which shouldn't be needed) or 

Re: CScoconut oil - other ways to consume.

2008-02-22 Thread faith gagne

This reminded me that the Tropical Traditions site does have recipes.  All you 
coconut oil lovers can check it out. 

It is now snowing here and it is lovely.   But it is all suposed to turn to 
sleet and rain later this evening.  Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:33 AM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil - other ways to consume.


  What I find works best for me is to make a kind of chocolate treat.  I have 
this for breakfast, and it keeps me going for hours.  

  This is a mix of whole, chopped or ground nuts, dried fruits, seeds, spices, 
coconut in various forms such as desiccated, or in flakes and strips.  I also 
add plain cocoa and sometimes a sprinkle of xylitol.  Some people add wheat 
germ.  One could also add things such as Maca.

  The idea is to choose what you want to eat, then prepare it in such a way 
that you can mix it with coconut oil and set it hard in the fridge or freezer.  
In winter you may need to put the oil jar in hot water until it is runny and 
mix up quickly before it hardens in the cold air.  That's when it's handy to 
have the dry ingredients ready mixed.  You choose the proportions according to 
taste and availability.

  I pre-mix my dry ingredients now, then it is quicker and more convenient to 
make a fresh batch when needed.  When I bring the nuts, seeds etc. home from 
the shops, I grind or chop whatever needs that, such as flax seeds and so on, 
then mix it all in a big plastic container.  It's as well for me to add cloves, 
ginger, cinnamon etc. at the same time, or I might forget, and those are part 
of my health recipe also.  Google for the health benefits of various spices and 
make your choice from what you find.

  When I mix a new batch, I mix whatever quantity I see fit of oil or dry 
ingredients together, adding more of either to get a consistency that is not 
going to be too dry and so not stick together, but also not so sloppy that it 
will taste unpleasantly oily.  I find I need the cocoa to fill in the gaps; 
just the mix and oil doesn't seem to work as well.

  Pretty much the best surface to put it on to set is the paper made for baking 
with.  I line a flat tin with it, and put the mix on it.  I separate roughly 
into squares to make it easier to break the pieces off when they are cold and 
hard.  Almost like Teflon.  Keep it chilled except when you are about to eat 
it.  After it is set in the tin, I break it up and put it in a container in the 
fridge.  It will melt and fall apart if you have it in the warmth for long.  It 
is still edible that way, and if you need to you can take some of the mix away 
with you even in warm weather in a screw top jar and have a few spoonfuls 
whenever you want.

  I have in the past decorated each square while still soft with a date, or a 
piece of frozen fruit such as a raspberry, but by and large I don't fiddle, 
just get it in a pan to chill.

  A little oil on a cold sweet dish such as fruit or ice cream can be 
interesting for its hard texture, and you could mix spice or xylitol or date 
paste in with it to have as a sauce that will harden, or anything else you 
think would suit.  

  Myself, I don't use it much to cook, but I might wipe it round a pan before 
adding olive oil to cook.  I value it too highly to risk wasting any.

  A friend of mine had a way of preparing crumpets by adding VCNO to a frying 
pan and heating the crumpets in that instead of toasting them in a toaster.  
This made them kind of soft and plump rather than hard and crisp.

  Another way is to use it on your toast, bread or muffins etc. like butter.  
You can mix it with butter if you want.  It does taste different, but it's 
good.  Jolly handy to always have a butter substitute on hand that doesn't go 
off.  You could also put it in your mashed potato or cooked vegetables for 
smoothness.

  I did sometimes put it in hot cocoa, but the oil was difficult to manage on 
the sides of the cup afterwards.  Well, not so much difficult, as wasteful 
where it clings to the cup.  Also, I didn't quite like the fattiness in hot 
drinks.

  Googling coconut and recipe will likely bring you a host of other ideas that 
might suit.  Laksa with coconut milk is nice - many different recipes come up 
on a web search. 

  Bon appetit
  Rowena





   I want to use coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and then, I 
can't think of many ways to use it other than on my skin.  I can't cook with it 
because husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I added some to bran muffins.  
I wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets so hard when cold, 
wouldn't it just be a clump in the smoothie?

   

Re: CScoconut oil - other ways to consume.

2008-02-22 Thread Dee
Sounds gorgeous!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Rowena
Date: 22/02/2008 18:00:38
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScoconut oil - other ways to consume.
 
What I find works best for me is to make a kind of chocolate treat.  I have
this for breakfast, and it keeps me going for hours.  
 
This is a mix of whole, chopped or ground nuts, dried fruits, seeds, spices,
coconut in various forms such as desiccated, or in flakes and strips.  I
also add plain cocoa and sometimes a sprinkle of xylitol.  Some people add
wheat germ.  One could also add things such as Maca.
 

Re: CScoconut oil

2008-02-22 Thread Tad Winiecki
Coconut oil (CO) is the only approved oil for cooking in the Budwig 
protocol, because it is more resistant to forming bad compounds at a 
higher heat.  I use it to cook onions and garlic to add a savory 
component to soups, and the BP recipe for buckwheat calls for cooking 
the buckwheat slightly in CO before adding water to finish cooking.  
I'm using Tropical Traditions presently which does have a very strong 
coconut oil taste.  I find that adding a lot of curry powder, turmeric 
and black pepper to a dish will disguise the taste.  I make buckwheat 
pizza by making a flat pile of cooked buckwheat that has lots of 
curry powder, etc, cover with pizza sauce or seasoned yogurt, top with 
mozzarella cheese, brown slightly, then cover with onions, garlic, and 
mushrooms cooked in CO and olives.  Discovering buckwheat has been 
great as I am gluten intolerant, and buckwheat is very nutritious, even 
has some B-17, and complete amino acids.


I melt it to put on popcorn along with nutritional yeast (popcorn is 
not in the BP but I'm using up what I have).  I also make a decadent 
chocolate substitute with it, I melt 1 Tbsp of CO and add 1 oz cocoa 
powder, vanilla or almond extract, and a sweetener- a tsp of honey, or 
some stevia or xylitol.  If put on some frozen banana slices the 
chocolate hardens like the chocolate shell on an ice cream bar.  Yummy!


Nancy

On Feb 22, 2008, at 5:56 AM, Pat wrote:

I want to use coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and 
then, I can't think of many ways to use it other than on my  skin.  I 
can't cook with it because husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I 
added some to bran muffins.  I wondered about putting it in 
smoothiessince it gets so hard when cold, wouldn't it just be a 
clump in the smoothie?


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Re: CScoconut oil

2008-02-22 Thread Dianne France
Someone in our coop was having trouble getting coconut down the family and 
found frying sweet potatoes in it worked.  Haven't tried this myself.  I need 
to order more because I think mine is to old.  I had gotten ours from Tropical 
Traditions.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:33 AM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


  I thought one could eat it on toast and crackers or take it by mouth or any 
other dozen ways of eating the stuff.  Why don't you go back to Mercola if you 
liked that?  Faith  G.


  - Original Message - 
From: Patmailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


Although Tropical Traditions makes the best lip balm sticks ever and good 
hand soap, I can't stand the taste or smell of their oil (but I haven't bought 
any new in a couple years).  Spectrum brand was even worse (bought that one 
before I knew what to look for).  Coconut Oil Supreme is so light with none of 
that fermented or burned kind of taste.  
http://www.coconutoil-online.com/Coconut_Oil_Supreme_Starter_Kit.htmhttp://www.coconutoil-online.com/Coconut_Oil_Supreme_Starter_Kit.htm
Another good one I've used was Fresh Shores from Mercola.com.  I want to 
use coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and then, I can't think of 
many ways to use it other than on my skin.  I can't cook with it because 
husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I added some to bran muffins.  I 
wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets so hard when cold, 
wouldn't it just be a clump in the smoothie?


  Pat



CScoconut oil to daddy bob

2008-02-21 Thread zeb caffe
what brand of oil do you use? I have tried several. Havent noticed that it 
helps pain but sure notice that my skin isnt as dry. soomething that I have 
notice helping with knee pain is biosil. I just started using it so I am not 
sure that this is what is really doing it but I plan to keep using it for a 
while. It is supposed to help the bones.
   
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Re: CScoconut oil to zeb

2008-02-21 Thread Rowena
In case you can get it where you live, Zeb, I will recommend the brand I use, 
Nui, once known as Kokonut.  Sorry, I think that should be Niulife.  
http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/

I have tried two other brands available here in Australia - one actually made 
me vomit (both ends), although I was already used to coconut oil, and the other 
was just not nice to taste, though I was sympathetic to the people who made it 
and their unusually unfortunate history.

It was just as well I happened to try Nui (then Kokonut) first, as if I had 
tried the other brand first I would never have continued with coconut oil. 

I have in the past seen a Canadian or USs address on their website, but I can't 
find it now, just a note to say that they are looking for international 
distributors.  http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/OilSales/OilIndex.html

I now also buy coconut juice made from young coconuts in a can like a soft 
drink.  It is very pleasant to taste, not sweet like rubbish drinks, and no 
dearer than them.  It comes from Thailand, and has bits of the soft jelly in 
them.  The brand I can get is Chaokoh from Thep Padung Porn Coconut Co. Ltd. 

I tried to find a website for them, but if they had one it doesn't seem to be 
working now.  But I see there are lots of companies producing the same sort of 
thing.

Also it is possible to get all sorts of coconut products, coconut sports in 
syrup and so on, trouble being that the syrup is very sweet.

Rowena
  - 

  what brand of oil do you use? I have tried several. Havent noticed that it 
helps pain but sure notice that my skin isnt as dry. soomething that I have 
notice helping with knee pain is biosil. I just started using it so I am not 
sure that this is what is really doing it but I plan to keep using it for a 
while. It is supposed to help the bones.


Re: silver build up in the body, was Re: CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-21 Thread Clayton Family
That is the same machine I have. It works pretty good, if it is in a 
sufficiently small space. I even got the mold toxins out of the crawl 
space under the tub with it- I admit, that is a pretty small space, but 
I gave it 2 hours, and *presto*   like magic I could put my hands in 
there and fix the drain with no reaction.


I found that it was not enough when I had an active mold colony growing 
in the drywall under the tiled shower- it would kill what was in the 
air, but that dirty muklefritzzen mold is anaerobic. That was the toxic 
one. There was also a white one, which was probably aspergillus, which 
I don't think was toxic in the same nasty way, but definitely 
unhealthy.


I used it to very little effect in my laundry room, and was puzzled, as 
I was still reacting to something. Yesterday I found that a drain hole 
in there was not securely tight, and whew- the smell! I am hoping that 
that is the main problem. We shall see over the next few days, I guess, 
if I am still reacting, and how.


Kathryn

On Jul 20, 2007, at 9:33 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Mold is bad scary stuff.
If it were a threat in the home , I'd run a ozone air cleaner of
sufficient size periodically. Ozone kills mold.
I bought an Arinizer some years back. My daughter is using it now in
her laundery room.

Nah, I steal taglines unabashedly.
some day I expect to be bashed...

Chuck
I support everyone's right to be an idiot.
 I may need it myself someday.


On 7/20/2007 9:44:21 PM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote:

Yep, I agree, that is what I have been doing for awhile now. I am
getting impatient. It is not only the dose of CS, but what else I am
being exposed to that affects things. ie: the mold count is pretty 
dang

high this time of year, so that leaves me with less something or other
to deal with it all. I do get distracted and forget where the edge is,
so need to be more attentive.

Do you make up all those tag lines? I look forward to reading your 
msgs

to see what you put there.

Kathryn
On Jul 20, 2007, at 11:02 AM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Well, if it were me, and I was getting Herxheimer reactions,

I'd

figure I was killing off something that needed killing.
I would handle it by backing off on dosage, then increasing it until
reaction started again (sorta like finding bowel tolerance with
vitamin C).
I expect to find that I can tolerate larger doses as the bad guys get
killed off  (in other words, stay on the edge of the envelope that
you're

pushing).


Chuck
I refuse to be intimidated by reality anymore






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Re: silver build up in the body, was Re: CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-20 Thread Clayton Family
Well, I can not take large amounts- I get herks when I do that, as I 
have been slowly increasing for the last several months, I do get the 
detox reaction on occassion. When I started, it was only one 
dropperful, 1/5 tsp, held under the tongue for awhile.


I am considering upping my dose by quite a bit, but will need to figure 
out a detox protocol to use during it so I don't get too stove up 
during the detox. I am hesitant to do this, as I am enjoying the 
relatively healty feeling I have taking this, but I am still  not at a 
sufficient dose to prevent certain symptoms that come on from time to 
time.


I am thinking I may have some kind of systemic cellular infection 
(intersticial cystitis?) that is causing the strong reactions to the 
small amounts. Since the CS goes into the bloodstream, and kills nearly 
all pathogens, that is a scenario that makes sense to me. I found a 
reference online by a dr that uses cs to treat asthma, that stated they 
need to start with extremely small amounts or risk exacerbations.


On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:13 AM, sol wrote:

2 ml per day is NOTHING. 1 teaspoon is 5 ml. What I consider virtually 
no CS at all is one mouthful daily, and my mouthful is over an ounce. 
An ounce is 2 tablespoons, which is 6 teaspoons, which is therefore 30 
ml.
I have taken between a pint and a quart a day, day in day out for at 
least 2 years with the only build up result being blue fingernail 
moons (see current discussion). I'm not even 100% certain my blue 
moons are the result of my CS intake.
Also check out the Altman study, though only a study of one person, it 
does indicate that most silver is excreted from the body quickly.

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/AltmanStudy.PDF

The amounts of CS (for real comparisons exact product information is 
necessary) that different people find effective for the same condition 
is astounding. I took so much of my own homemade EIS for so long to 
reduce my candida, that I can't help believing that tiny doses, if 
effective, must be affected by the placebo response. No offense to 
anyone. When I require large amounts it is just not possible for me to 
believe teaspoons or mls do anything when diluted in a human body.

HTH,
sol

Deafdog wrote:

  The colloidal silver has reduced my candida to just
about nil after being on a higher dose and now i
 just take 1ml twice daily
 I wanted to know if it was ok to continually take this amount
as a naturopath said it gets stored in your body and
can be toxic




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Re: silver build up in the body, was Re: CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-20 Thread cking001
Well, if it were me, and I was getting Herxheimer reactions, I'd
figure I was killing off something that needed killing.
I would handle it by backing off on dosage, then increasing it until
reaction started again (sorta like finding bowel tolerance with
vitamin C).
I expect to find that I can tolerate larger doses as the bad guys get
killed off  (in other words, stay on the edge of the envelope that
you're pushing).

Chuck
I refuse to be intimidated by reality anymore 


On 7/20/2007 10:00:29 AM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote:
 Well, I can not take large amounts- I get herks when I do that, as I
 have been slowly increasing for the last several months, I do get the
 detox reaction on occassion. When I started, it was only one
 dropperful, 1/5 tsp, held under the tongue for awhile.
 
 I am considering upping my dose by quite a bit, but will need to figure
 out a detox protocol to use during it so I
 don't get too stove up
 during the detox. I am hesitant to do this, as I am enjoying the
 relatively healty feeling I have taking this, but I am still  not at a
 sufficient dose to prevent certain symptoms that come on from time to
 time.
 
 I am thinking I may have some kind of systemic cellular infection
 (intersticial cystitis?) that is causing the strong reactions to the
 small amounts. Since the CS goes into the bloodstream, and kills nearly
 all pathogens, that is a scenario that makes sense to me. I found a
 reference online by a dr that uses cs to treat asthma, that stated they
 need to start with extremely small amounts or risk exacerbations.
 
 On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:13 AM, sol wrote:
 
  2 ml per day is NOTHING. 1 teaspoon is 5 ml. What I consider


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Re: silver build up in the body, was Re: CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-20 Thread sol
I know beyond doubt I had (or still have) stubborn systemic pathogens, 
EBV, candida, deep sinus infection, and maybe others I haven't even 
idnentified yet. But I've NEVER had a herx reaction, not even once, so 
far as I can tell, I just don't suffer that reaction. But that doesn't 
mean I don't have systemic infections. Something else must determine why 
some people suffer herx and some don't. Whatever the reason, I'm glad I 
do not, because it means I'm free to vary my CS intake as wildly as 
seems necessary to me on any given day.
The only thing I can personally identify as a possible reason I don't 
suffer herxes, is that I never expected to have one, didn't know I 
'should' have them. That is why I think there is probably some reverse 
placebo going on.
It would be interesting to know if many people who do suffer herx 
reactions to CS expected to have that reaction, and were not only 
expecting it but focussed on watching for it. And it would be 
interesting to know of any others besides myself who have never had a 
herx; if those folks had no expection of having a herx.
Just for my curiosity, did you know before you started CS what a herx 
was, and were you expecting to have one in any way?

sol

Clayton Family wrote:
Well, I can not take large amounts- I get herks when I do that, as I 
have been slowly increasing for the last several months, I do get the 
detox reaction on occassion. When I started, it was only one 
dropperful, 1/5 tsp, held under the tongue for awhile.


I am considering upping my dose by quite a bit, but will need to 
figure out a detox protocol to use during it so I don't get too stove 
up during the detox. I am hesitant to do this, as I am enjoying the 
relatively healty feeling I have taking this, but I am still  not at a 
sufficient dose to prevent certain symptoms that come on from time to 
time.


I am thinking I may have some kind of systemic cellular infection 
(intersticial cystitis?) that is causing the strong reactions to the 
small amounts. Since the CS goes into the bloodstream, and kills 
nearly all pathogens, that is a scenario that makes sense to me. I 
found a reference online by a dr that uses cs to treat asthma, that 
stated they need to start with extremely small amounts or risk 
exacerbations.





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Re: silver build up in the body, was Re: CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-20 Thread Clayton Family
Yep, I agree, that is what I have been doing for awhile now. I am 
getting impatient. It is not only the dose of CS, but what else I am 
being exposed to that affects things. ie: the mold count is pretty dang 
high this time of year, so that leaves me with less something or other 
to deal with it all. I do get distracted and forget where the edge is, 
so need to be more attentive.


Do you make up all those tag lines? I look forward to reading your msgs 
to see what you put there.


Kathryn
On Jul 20, 2007, at 11:02 AM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Well, if it were me, and I was getting Herxheimer reactions, I'd
figure I was killing off something that needed killing.
I would handle it by backing off on dosage, then increasing it until
reaction started again (sorta like finding bowel tolerance with
vitamin C).
I expect to find that I can tolerate larger doses as the bad guys get
killed off  (in other words, stay on the edge of the envelope that
you're pushing).

Chuck
I refuse to be intimidated by reality anymore


On 7/20/2007 10:00:29 AM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote:

Well, I can not take large amounts- I get herks when I do that, as I
have been slowly increasing for the last several months, I do get the
detox reaction on occassion. When I started, it was only one
dropperful, 1/5 tsp, held under the tongue for awhile.

I am considering upping my dose by quite a bit, but will need to 
figure

out a detox protocol to use during it so I
don't get too stove up
during the detox. I am hesitant to do this, as I am enjoying the
relatively healty feeling I have taking this, but I am still  not at a
sufficient dose to prevent certain symptoms that come on from time to
time.

I am thinking I may have some kind of systemic cellular infection
(intersticial cystitis?) that is causing the strong reactions to the
small amounts. Since the CS goes into the bloodstream, and kills 
nearly

all pathogens, that is a scenario that makes sense to me. I found a
reference online by a dr that uses cs to treat asthma, that stated 
they

need to start with extremely small amounts or risk exacerbations.

On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:13 AM, sol wrote:


2 ml per day is NOTHING. 1 teaspoon is 5 ml. What I consider



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Re: silver build up in the body, was Re: CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-20 Thread Clayton Family
I did experience reactions like that from time to time when I would try 
one remedy or another for my undiagnoable condition. I did not know 
what a herks was, just thought the reaction was a bad thing, and I 
would stop taking the remedy that caused it. After a number of years 
during which things went slowly downhill I eventually was diagnosed by 
an allergist with allergic fungal sinusitis, and was told to go online 
and find some support groups. That is where I learned what herks was, 
and that if I wanted to get well, I would have to gut it out with the 
diflucan. It seems to be a biological mechanism of the fungal organism 
when stressed, it can release significantly more toxins than otherwise. 
That is only significant if you are growing a variety that can emit 
toxins, and then it has the correct conditions to do so.


There are several species of fungi that can be toxic, but only under 
certain conditions, and this includes the infamous stachybotris.


According to Dr Shoemaker's work with toxin mediated illnesses, there 
seems to be a switch that gets flipped in some people that instead of 
getting rid of the toxins, the body appears to recirculate them 
instead. Thus the adsorbent resin (cholestyramine, rx) or charcoal to 
help bind them before they get recirculated. Eventually, when the toxin 
load is reduced sufficiently, the switch can be flipped back to normal, 
for some. He does certain genetic tests  to see which people are likely 
to respond to which therapy. If I recall, there are a few things he 
knows of that do set this off in some people: Lyme, Estuarine Syndrome 
(red tide disease, a toxic algae), and toxic mold exposure.


The funny thing to me is, that I took the diflucan for 18 months before 
I started the CS, and the reaction I am having is slightly different 
than I had when I first started with the antifungal. First thing is I 
get *really* thirsty. If I don't lay off a little, my joints start to 
hurt. That did not happen with the diflucan, and I have not heard of it 
with this either. So, there is a different bug in a different place 
that it is going after, I am guessing. Seems like it was/is everywhere.


It is possible you do not have the dreaded genotype for toxin mediated 
illness as defined by Shoemaker, etal. Only a small percentage of 
people end up impaired like that. I apparently was also spared the 
worst case scenario of some of his patients, as I am improving on my 
own, without using any binders like charcoal, cholestyramine or clays. 
So, my body apparently is able to excrete toxins, just maybe slower 
than most. I think those candida type protocols would be a good idea, 
however, since I have tried the charcoal on occasion, and found it 
helpful.


Kathryn

On Jul 20, 2007, at 7:51 PM, sol wrote:

I know beyond doubt I had (or still have) stubborn systemic pathogens, 
EBV, candida, deep sinus infection, and maybe others I haven't even 
idnentified yet. But I've NEVER had a herx reaction, not even once, so 
far as I can tell, I just don't suffer that reaction. But that doesn't 
mean I don't have systemic infections. Something else must determine 
why some people suffer herx and some don't. Whatever the reason, I'm 
glad I do not, because it means I'm free to vary my CS intake as 
wildly as seems necessary to me on any given day.
The only thing I can personally identify as a possible reason I don't 
suffer herxes, is that I never expected to have one, didn't know I 
'should' have them. That is why I think there is probably some reverse 
placebo going on.
It would be interesting to know if many people who do suffer herx 
reactions to CS expected to have that reaction, and were not only 
expecting it but focussed on watching for it. And it would be 
interesting to know of any others besides myself who have never had a 
herx; if those folks had no expection of having a herx.
Just for my curiosity, did you know before you started CS what a herx 
was, and were you expecting to have one in any way?

sol

Clayton Family wrote:
Well, I can not take large amounts- I get herks when I do that, as I 
have been slowly increasing for the last several months, I do get the 
detox reaction on occassion. When I started, it was only one 
dropperful, 1/5 tsp, held under the tongue for awhile.


I am considering upping my dose by quite a bit, but will need to 
figure out a detox protocol to use during it so I don't get too stove 
up during the detox. I am hesitant to do this, as I am enjoying the 
relatively healty feeling I have taking this, but I am still  not at 
a sufficient dose to prevent certain symptoms that come on from time 
to time.


I am thinking I may have some kind of systemic cellular infection 
(intersticial cystitis?) that is causing the strong reactions to the 
small amounts. Since the CS goes into the bloodstream, and kills 
nearly all pathogens, that is a scenario that makes sense to me. I 
found a reference online by a dr that uses cs to treat asthma, that 

Re: silver build up in the body, was Re: CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-20 Thread cking001
Mold is bad scary stuff.
If it were a threat in the home , I'd run a ozone air cleaner of
sufficient size periodically. Ozone kills mold.
I bought an Arinizer some years back. My daughter is using it now in
her laundery room.

Nah, I steal taglines unabashedly.
some day I expect to be bashed...

Chuck
I support everyone's right to be an idiot.
 I may need it myself someday.


On 7/20/2007 9:44:21 PM, Clayton Family (clay...@skypoint.com) wrote:
 Yep, I agree, that is what I have been doing for awhile now. I am
 getting impatient. It is not only the dose of CS, but what else I am
 being exposed to that affects things. ie: the mold count is pretty dang
 high this time of year, so that leaves me with less something or other
 to deal with it all. I do get distracted and forget where the edge is,
 so need to be more attentive.
 
 Do you make up all those tag lines? I look forward to reading your msgs
 to see what you put there.
 
 Kathryn
 On Jul 20, 2007, at 11:02 AM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
  Well, if it were me, and I was getting Herxheimer reactions,
 I'd
  figure I was killing off something that needed killing.
  I would handle it by backing off on dosage, then increasing it until
  reaction started again (sorta like finding bowel tolerance with
  vitamin C).
  I expect to find that I can tolerate larger doses as the bad guys get
  killed off  (in other words, stay on the edge of the envelope that
  you're
 pushing).
 
  Chuck
  I refuse to be intimidated by reality anymore
 
 
  


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CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-19 Thread Deafdog
Hi wayne

Each morning i have a drink of one
tablespoon coconut oil 2 capfuls of bragg
cider vinegar and one tsp of honey or a sprinkle
of stevia.

I find this really jump starts my metaboloism and
stops me getting the morning low blood sugar drop

I have not gained any weight doing this in fact
the opposite and seem to have more energy.

The colloidal silver has reduced my candida to just
about nil after being on a higher dose and now i
 just take 1ml twice daily

I wanted to know if it was ok to continually take this amount
as a naturopath said it gets stored in your body and
can be toxic

so thanks everyone for yr comments 

Merrin

Re: CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-19 Thread Dee
Not to put too fine a point on it Merrin, that is absolute rubbish and the
sort of thing put about by people who have no idea what they are talking
about!  Please don't listen to them. The kind of silver we are talking about
is nanno particles of electrically isolated silver which is too small to
lodge anywhere and leaves the body in a matter of hours.  I'm sure all the
very brainy people on the list will tell you this in more detail than I can.
 Dee 

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---Original Message--- 

 

From: Deafdog 

Date: 07/19/07 10:40:35 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CScoconut oil and fat reduction 

 

Hi Wayne 

 

 

I wanted to know if it was ok to continually take this amount 

As a naturopath said it gets stored in your body and 

Can be toxic 

 

So thanks everyone for yr comments 

 

Merrin 

 


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silver build up in the body, was Re: CScoconut oil and fat reduction

2007-07-19 Thread sol
2 ml per day is NOTHING. 1 teaspoon is 5 ml. What I consider virtually 
no CS at all is one mouthful daily, and my mouthful is over an ounce. An 
ounce is 2 tablespoons, which is 6 teaspoons, which is therefore 30 ml.
I have taken between a pint and a quart a day, day in day out for at 
least 2 years with the only build up result being blue fingernail 
moons (see current discussion). I'm not even 100% certain my blue 
moons are the result of my CS intake.
Also check out the Altman study, though only a study of one person, it 
does indicate that most silver is excreted from the body quickly.

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/AltmanStudy.PDF

The amounts of CS (for real comparisons exact product information is 
necessary) that different people find effective for the same condition 
is astounding. I took so much of my own homemade EIS for so long to 
reduce my candida, that I can't help believing that tiny doses, if 
effective, must be affected by the placebo response. No offense to 
anyone. When I require large amounts it is just not possible for me to 
believe teaspoons or mls do anything when diluted in a human body.

HTH,
sol

Deafdog wrote:
 
 
The colloidal silver has reduced my candida to just

about nil after being on a higher dose and now i
 just take 1ml twice daily
 
I wanted to know if it was ok to continually take this amount

as a naturopath said it gets stored in your body and
can be toxic
 



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Re: CScoconut oil question

2006-09-16 Thread Pat
Wow, thanks Rowena!  After months of wondering about
the difference in the taste of the oils, I found out
in just a minute from the file about some oils having
a catching in the throat sensation.  I don't know why
I never thought to look for a message board about
coconut oilguess there's one for everything.

   Pat

  


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Re: CScoconut oil question

2006-09-16 Thread ccdirectt


Speaking of oil,has anybody out thhere tried 
OIL SWISHING//OIL PULLING ? www.curezone.com has a
forum
on it. www.oilpulling.com  has a pdf you can download.
It might sound crazy but it seems to work.Teeth  gums
love it.
 

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Re: CScoconut oil question

2006-09-16 Thread ccdirectt

If you kept it refrigerated it will probably be OK.
I think it suppose to have a 5yr life if kept 
refrigerated.If you don't want to eat it,use as a anti
wrinkle cream  body oil.


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Re: CScoconut oil question - oil pulling

2006-09-16 Thread Rowena
Yes, and I think it's been discussed on this list.  I think it's something 
that should definitely be done with CS or VCNO or I suppose dilute H2O2, or 
whatever else kills germs.  One of the bugs I'm now treating, Protea 
vulgaris, lives in the mouth and can cause endocarditis.  If I had been 
holding CS in my mouth for 6 minutes every day, or VCNO, I doubt it would 
have got anywhere.  This is a brand new germ in  my medical history, and I 
suspect it got going behind my Maryland bridge before flossing yanked it 
out.  As well as my homeopathic medicine I am using the Frex program to 
deliver the P.vulgaris frequencies, but was thinking about the oil pulling 
etc. just a short while ago.
Rowena
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frexchat/http://heal-me.com.au

Speaking of oil,has anybody out thhere tried
OIL SWISHING//OIL PULLING ? www.curezone.com has a
forum
on it. www.oilpulling.com  has a pdf you can download.
It might sound crazy but it seems to work.Teeth  gums
love it.


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CScoconut oil question

2006-09-15 Thread sol
I believe someone (or some someones) on this list use Tropical 
Traditions virgin coconut oil.
I haven't used any of mine for quite some time, and I just noticed my 
bucket of it has an expiry date of Dec. 3, 2005. Anybody know it if is 
still safe to consume or cook with?
It smells fine, but does have little tiny beads in it, teeny lumps. 
When rubbed between the fingers, I can feel these little bumpy lumps 
(smaller than the small decorative multicolor sugar beads used for cake 
decorating) but as the oil melts from the heat of my fingers, they melt 
too. I tasted some of the oil and it seems fine, not rancid. I'm just 
wondering if the little bumpiness means the oil has begun to get moldy 
or something? I wanted to use some of this oil tomorrow, but am not sure 
it is safe to use. Of course, I wrote to TT, but probably won't hear 
from them until next week sometime, so I'm hoping someone here will know.

thanks in advance,
sol



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Re: CScoconut oil question

2006-09-15 Thread Pat
My Coconut Oil Supreme has the tiny lumps and the jar
of expeller pressed Spectrum Natural which I just
opened does too.  The Spectrum brand has a slightly
cooked smell and seems much oilier on the skin.  It
was the cheaper one of the two choices at Whole
Foods,...cost about 1/2 as much as the other brand. 
Coconut Oil Supreme isn't sold in stores.  Coconut oil
Supreme states, It is separated directly from fresh
coconut milk without the use of fermentation and is
never heated.  They say the shelf life is 3 years and
does not need refrigeration.

It's funny, I was reading about coconut oil when your
post came in.  Hope I don't sound like an ad for
Coconut Oil Supreme, but having been disappointed by
my rancid (maybe fermented?) flavor of the Virgin
Tropical Traditions and now this Spectrum brand, I
might not try more brands.  However, I have finished
my jar of Tropical Traditions Coconut Cream.  That
stuff is wonderful for a little snack when I need
something sweet.

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Re: CScoconut oil question - lumps

2006-09-15 Thread Rowena
You might be interested in watching the coconut oil site 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/coconut_oil_open_forum/
and having a look through the archives.  Pretty much every aspect of VCNO 
has been discussed there.
I guess it's autumn where you live, and wonder whether the temperature has 
something to do with the lumps, especially as they melt away with the heat 
of your hand.  From solid white when cold to water-clear when warm, the oil 
goes through various stages on the way to each state.
Rowena


My Coconut Oil Supreme has the tiny lumps and the jar
of expeller pressed Spectrum Natural which I just
opened does too. 


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CSCoconut Oil Refund

2006-04-01 Thread Pat
Yay, Mercola.com is going to give me the $36 credit
for the bad coconut oil.  I'm not sure I want to order
anything just yet though.  He said they're changing
systems, so having problems because of that.  They
never had mailed the light bulb I ordered in February,
but will now.  He said there are only 10 people and
having trouble keeping up and that they've had trouble
with people getting into their system.  Not sure what
all that means, but guess I'll give them a few weeks
to get settled in.  The man I talked to was very nice
and made it clear that they want customers to be
satisfied.  I really don't have much luck ordering
from them though, the lotion I got gave me an allergy
attack after 5 minutes, and the dark chocolate bars
I'd bought for my son who loves bitter chocolate are
even too dark and unsweet for him.  I'm just afraid to
order more Tropical Traditions oil, although I love
their coconut cream and some of you like it.  It is
very high priced for something I'll use a lot of. 
Maybe I'll try some of the cheaper brands.

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RE: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-30 Thread ransley
Tropical Traditions has developed the annoying habit of having sales on
their oils. I fell for it once with their Red Palm Oil, a good deal so it
seemed, about 2 for 1 on the 2 gallon bucket size. The oil I got was nowhere
near the quality of the first jar I bought. It smells and tastes burnt both
heated and cold. I'm about to give up on it, gonna mix it into dog food.

A special deal would be just fine if they would come clean and say that the
oil in question is maybe not quite up to their usual standards but still
good for a lot of uses, but since they don't do that, I don't feel that I
can trust them anymore.

They recently had a sale on their coconut oil and would have saved me about
$25 over my purchase of the approximate same quantity of Coconut Oil
Supreme. I almost did it then remembered that Red Palm Oil fiasco. 

Daddybob


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CSCoconut oil/cream//butter

2006-03-30 Thread Harold MacDonald
I get Tropical Traditions extra virgin coconut oil and coconut cream from 
Dr.Mercola.It is so delicious that I have to force myself not to eat it by the 
spoonfull.I have had other virgin coconut oils that were so poor tasting I 
won't even use it for cooking. 
Also re butter; I make a mix of softened unsalted butter;I lb.butter,1/3 cup 
of extra virgin olive oil,1/4 cup Hemp seed oil,1/4 cup flax seed oil,1 
teaspoon of Himalaya or celtic sea salt.Soften butter at room temp.,add the 
other oils[which are kept refrigerated] and blend gently in a large bowl with 
a spatula until smooth,put in tubs and keep refridgerated.
This mix is very tasty and has a good mix of essential fatty acids.
Harold


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Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-30 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 3/29/2006 11:43:03 AM Central Standard Time, 
a_r...@centurytel.net writes:
we just bought some coconut oil from this place

http://www.agbangakarite.com/whole_coconutoil.php

the quality is wonderful, smells heavenly, taste wonderful. 
Hi Rose.  Can you please tell me what the shipping expense was for your 
order?  Thanks.  MA


Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread Pat

Hi.  This jar of Tropical Traditions was my first
coconut oil ever.  Does yours have an unpleasant
aftertaste that reminds you of rancidness?  The new
stuff I got is just smooth with no aftertaste, just
mild coconut flavor.

This is from the Mercola site:
Fresh Shores Extra Virgin Coconut Oil is made without
heat processing. The fresh coconuts are first cold
pressed to make a coconut emulsion. After being
chilled to help pull out the oils, the milk goes
through a centrifuge, where the pure oil spins away
from the water layer. This results in a pure and
natural, organic, unrefined and highly stable coconut
oil.

Additionally, blindfolded taste tests confirm this
coconut oil to have a fresh and mild, light coconut
flavor -- and to consistently beat out other brands in
taste.

Some site had said to be wary of any coconut oil which
calls itself extra virgin since that's not correct
unless it's olive oil.

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Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread bob smith
I've tried several brands and IMHO think Tropical T. is the best.  I get it 
by the gallon and because I live alone, it lasts a long time.  In spite of 
this I have never noticed the slightest off taste.Bob smith



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: CSCoconut Oil


hhhummm!!  i've been eating tropical traditions  evco for several 
years and have a good supply on hand now. this statement of yours was 
quite a surprise, so i went to mercola's site.  he is still recommending 
tropical traditions.  can you illucidate a little???


jim

Pat wrote:


I can't remember who told me about the brand of
coconut oil Coconut Oil Supreme, but thanks.  It's
great.  It has none of the rancid taste of the
Tropical Tradition oil.  I noticed the Dr. Mercola
site is selling a different brand now, maybe others
have had complaints.



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Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread Acmeair
this is from www.mercola.com:  I now highly recommend and offer you 
what is clearly the premier brand of virgin coconut oil in the U.S., 
Tropical Traditions.


i did see another mercola site on google that does show him selling 
fresh shores oil. wonder what's up here.  went to coconut oil supreme 
site, and could not find any prices at  all, except flat rate shipping 
charge.


did you buy your first jar of tropical traditions from mercola, or from 
tropical traditions?


jim

Pat wrote:


Hi.  This jar of Tropical Traditions was my first
coconut oil ever.  Does yours have an unpleasant
aftertaste that reminds you of rancidness?  The new
stuff I got is just smooth with no aftertaste, just
mild coconut flavor.

This is from the Mercola site:
Fresh Shores Extra Virgin Coconut Oil is made without
heat processing. The fresh coconuts are first cold
pressed to make a coconut emulsion. After being
chilled to help pull out the oils, the milk goes
through a centrifuge, where the pure oil spins away
from the water layer. This results in a pure and
natural, organic, unrefined and highly stable coconut
oil.

Additionally, blindfolded taste tests confirm this
coconut oil to have a fresh and mild, light coconut
flavor -- and to consistently beat out other brands in
taste.

Some site had said to be wary of any coconut oil which
calls itself extra virgin since that's not correct
unless it's olive oil.

  Pat

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Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread rose
we just bought some coconut oil from this place

http://www.agbangakarite.com/whole_coconutoil.php

the quality is wonderful, smells heavenly, taste wonderful.  this is a fair
trade company which is in alignment with our preferences.  this is our first
shipment and we are very pleased with the company, there response staff and
their good vibes in general.  we ordered two gallons, it came packaged well and
in a timely fashion.  we did have to wait a few days for their fresh shipment to
come in.  below is a communication from them...

Thank you for your support and interest in our virgin coconut oil. All our
oils are food grade under the Togolese food regulation, but not under the
FDA. We ship your order out by Thursday as our new fresh shipment will
arrive tomorrow.
Thank you,


this site has some interesting info...

http://coconutoil.com/

we have stopped using any oil but coconut and olive...the palm oil is out of our
price range for now.  i did enjoy reading daddy bob's account of the distinct
flavors.

we were caring for a kitty with fatty liver disease...the stress of being dumped
set the condition in motion...and although he succumbed to fip, another
challenge he had, the addition of coconut oil to his food we attribute to his
lasting as long as he did in relative comfort.  we actually got the jaundice
cleared up...on the theory the coconut oil would help clean the liver and give
energy in his emaciated state.

we are exploring the oil issue in depth.  i know that i am always cold in winter
months and changing oils made for warm hands and feet...something i have never
had.  i had read some 30 years ago about rancid oils being one of the biggest
causes of all sorts of health challenges...but like all good things you
read...well, you know.  i will never go back to the garbage they sell to a
sleepy public.  coconut oil is such a minimal investment in our health and the
health of the animal beings at our special needs animal sanctuary when you
consider all the things you have to do to cope with ingesting rancid oils, or
just plain poly-unsaturated.   the oil is simply AMAZING.

rose






Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread Pat
At the Coconut Oil Supreme site, I guess you just have
to  click as if you are ordering to get to the price
chart.  It's $12.70 a one pound bottle.  They have a
larger amount in a glass jar. I don't like the bottle
since you have to melt it to pour it out into a jar. 
But it's very good.  I'd ordered the Tropical
Traditions through the Mercola site, two pint jars at
around $18 each.  I need to go taste the jar I'd given
to my son and see if it has the off taste too.  He
said he'd fried something in it and he thought the
smell of coconut was so strong that it would flavor
the food too much, then he wasn't sure if it really
flavored the food or if it was just the lingering
smell. The Coconut Oil Supreme seems to have a milder
scent and taste.  

It really bothers me that all those years (even as a
dietary technician at the hospital) we advised
patients to avoid coconut and olive oils along with
the hydrogenated fats.  However, in spite of what
every source said, I always used pure butter rather
than margarine and have always believed the benefits
found in eggs made them well worth eating.  Now if a
recipe calls for butter, I'll use mostly coconut oil. 
Do they swap off evenly?  The coconut oil feels so
light and different from all the others.

Pat


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Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread Gertrude
Pat hello,
I buy coconuttablets  PALMIN  since 1894 (in squares of 25 gr. divided) real
coconut in Germany in a supermarketfor only 1 euro
In a jambottle...almost the same...awfull to take it out...for 5 euro in a
reform shop.
Both came from The Orient...both the same colour and odor...is that the name
for it?
Sometimes people/sellers take to much for the products...the same as the
Pharma  Industry does.
The 12.70 dollar is  rare...I think...I would like to plant a palmtree if I
lived in a warm part of the world.

I am very glad I discouverd the German shop.
Trudy







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From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSCoconut Oil


 At the Coconut Oil Supreme site, I guess you just have
 to  click as if you are ordering to get to the price
 chart.  It's $12.70 a one pound bottle.  They have a
 larger amount in a glass jar. I don't like the bottle
 since you have to melt it to pour it out into a jar.
 But it's very good.  I'd ordered the Tropical
 Traditions through the Mercola site, two pint jars at
 around $18 each.  I need to go taste the jar I'd given
 to my son and see if it has the off taste too.  He
 said he'd fried something in it and he thought the
 smell of coconut was so strong that it would flavor
 the food too much, then he wasn't sure if it really
 flavored the food or if it was just the lingering
 smell. The Coconut Oil Supreme seems to have a milder
 scent and taste.

 It really bothers me that all those years (even as a
 dietary technician at the hospital) we advised
 patients to avoid coconut and olive oils along with
 the hydrogenated fats.  However, in spite of what
 every source said, I always used pure butter rather
 than margarine and have always believed the benefits
 found in eggs made them well worth eating.  Now if a
 recipe calls for butter, I'll use mostly coconut oil.
 Do they swap off evenly?  The coconut oil feels so
 light and different from all the others.

 Pat


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Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread bob smith
Their Virgin Oil has a coconut flavor.  I get both their VCO and their 
expeller pressed for cooking where I don't want the coconut flavor.  Bob 
Smith



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSCoconut Oil



At the Coconut Oil Supreme site, I guess you just have
to  click as if you are ordering to get to the price
chart.  It's $12.70 a one pound bottle.  They have a
larger amount in a glass jar. I don't like the bottle
since you have to melt it to pour it out into a jar.
But it's very good.  I'd ordered the Tropical
Traditions through the Mercola site, two pint jars at
around $18 each.  I need to go taste the jar I'd given
to my son and see if it has the off taste too.  He
said he'd fried something in it and he thought the
smell of coconut was so strong that it would flavor
the food too much, then he wasn't sure if it really
flavored the food or if it was just the lingering
smell. The Coconut Oil Supreme seems to have a milder
scent and taste.



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RE: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread Richard Harris
To the many seekers or quality Coconut Oil:

I buy my Coconut Oil (Extra Virgin COCONUT OIL) 1 # jar from Puritan's Pride
presently priced @ $15.95 but--buy 2 get 3 free--phone 1-800-645-1030. I
have NO financial connections with this fine, economically priced company,
but am a very satisfied customer. This product is delicious.

Someone observed that if they lived in the tropics, they'd plant a coconut
tree--I was in the Pacific in the US Marines during WW II and we were
surrounded by towering coconut trees and the falling coconuts were a
constant danger during wind and storms. Have no ideas how long it takes for
a coconut tree to bear nor how many nuts they bear in a year. Good luck.

Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com





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From: Gertrude [mailto:dj...@home.nl]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 3:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCoconut Oil


Pat hello,
I buy coconuttablets  PALMIN  since 1894 (in squares of 25 gr. divided) real
coconut in Germany in a supermarketfor only 1 euro
In a jambottle...almost the same...awfull to take it out...for 5 euro in a
reform shop.
Both came from The Orient...both the same colour and odor...is that the name
for it?
Sometimes people/sellers take to much for the products...the same as the
Pharma  Industry does.
The 12.70 dollar is  rare...I think...I would like to plant a palmtree if I
lived in a warm part of the world.

I am very glad I discouverd the German shop.
Trudy







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From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSCoconut Oil


 At the Coconut Oil Supreme site, I guess you just have
 to  click as if you are ordering to get to the price
 chart.  It's $12.70 a one pound bottle.  They have a
 larger amount in a glass jar. I don't like the bottle
 since you have to melt it to pour it out into a jar.
 But it's very good.  I'd ordered the Tropical
 Traditions through the Mercola site, two pint jars at
 around $18 each.  I need to go taste the jar I'd given
 to my son and see if it has the off taste too.  He
 said he'd fried something in it and he thought the
 smell of coconut was so strong that it would flavor
 the food too much, then he wasn't sure if it really
 flavored the food or if it was just the lingering
 smell. The Coconut Oil Supreme seems to have a milder
 scent and taste.

 It really bothers me that all those years (even as a
 dietary technician at the hospital) we advised
 patients to avoid coconut and olive oils along with
 the hydrogenated fats.  However, in spite of what
 every source said, I always used pure butter rather
 than margarine and have always believed the benefits
 found in eggs made them well worth eating.  Now if a
 recipe calls for butter, I'll use mostly coconut oil.
 Do they swap off evenly?  The coconut oil feels so
 light and different from all the others.

 Pat


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RE: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread Pat

Today I tasted the Tropical Traditions coconut oil I
gave my son(just opened, used once), and his has that
yucky taste too.  Don't know if it's a bad batch, but
I'll be scared to ever buy that brand again.
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Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread V
Hi Pat,

You mihgt have gotten the expeller pressed one which does not taste good.
the virgin one tastes good I use it.




Take care,
 V


 Today I tasted the Tropical Traditions coconut oil I
 gave my son(just opened, used once), and his has that
 yucky taste too.  Don't know if it's a bad batch, but
 I'll be scared to ever buy that brand again.
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RE: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-29 Thread Deborah Gerard
Pat I would get my money back if I were you..I have bought from them before and 
have not had problems ...debbie

Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote:  
Today I tasted the Tropical Traditions coconut oil I
gave my son(just opened, used once), and his has that
yucky taste too. Don't know if it's a bad batch, but
I'll be scared to ever buy that brand again.
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CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-28 Thread Pat
I can't remember who told me about the brand of
coconut oil Coconut Oil Supreme, but thanks.  It's
great.  It has none of the rancid taste of the
Tropical Tradition oil.  I noticed the Dr. Mercola
site is selling a different brand now, maybe others
have had complaints.

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Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-28 Thread Acmeair
hhhummm!!  i've been eating tropical traditions  evco for 
several years and have a good supply on hand now. this statement of 
yours was quite a surprise, so i went to mercola's site.  he is still 
recommending tropical traditions.  can you illucidate a little???


jim

Pat wrote:


I can't remember who told me about the brand of
coconut oil Coconut Oil Supreme, but thanks.  It's
great.  It has none of the rancid taste of the
Tropical Tradition oil.  I noticed the Dr. Mercola
site is selling a different brand now, maybe others
have had complaints.

 Pat

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Re: CSCoconut Oil

2006-03-28 Thread Acmeair

Acmeair wrote:

hhhummm!!  i've been eating tropical traditions  evco for 
several years and have a good supply on hand now. this statement of 
yours was quite a surprise, so i went to mercola's site.  he is still 
recommending tropical traditions.  can you illucidate a little???


jim

Pat wrote:


I can't remember who told me about the brand of
coconut oil Coconut Oil Supreme, but thanks.  It's
great.  It has none of the rancid taste of the
Tropical Tradition oil.  I noticed the Dr. Mercola
site is selling a different brand now, maybe others
have had complaints.

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CScoconut oil

2005-06-16 Thread Betsy Coffey
I just had a comment on EVCO. I have tried to use this
product on several occasions. It seems to cause
extreme brain fog and also speeds up my heart. I cant
tell if this is an allergic reaction,yeast die off, or
the fact that it is known to increase metabolism. I
wish I could use it but those side effects arent worth
it to me. I love the taste thou



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Re: CSCoconut oil-Canada - further particulars - my favourite available there too!

2005-06-15 Thread Rowena
Q: Does anyone know of a good source of good coconut oil in Canada? 
Ontario? 


Further to my preious reply, I have just realised that the oil I use, which 
I heartily recommend, is available in Canada and the US.


Go to
http://www.alphahealth.ca/coconut.html.

ALpha Health Products Ltd., 7434 Fraser Park Drive, Burnaby, BC V5J 5B9
Tel: (604) 436-0545, Fax: (604) 435-4862, Toll free: 1-800-663-2212
e-mail: conta...@alphahealth.ca

It is a lovely fresh, light taste, and is racked repeatedly to make sure 
there is no coconut water or sludge left in.  I have seen jars of other CNO 
with a bit of a deposit at the bottom.  The boss of another CNO company told 
me he had to take off his hat to Dr Etherington for the great care he takes 
in his product.  The Australian site is http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au/


Rowena 



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Re: CScoconut oil - wrinkles

2005-06-15 Thread Bonnie
//I have a personal favorite way to eat the virgin coconut oil: I use it
as my breakfast with a 2-pack of Nature Valley granola bars. Just dip
the granola bar in with every bite  by the time you're done with them,
you've also consumed 3-4 Tablespoons of CO without hardly noticing. It
tastes GREAT with the oatmeal  cinnamon/honey/peanut, etc flavors in
the bars. I find I'm not hungry for hours after that also. Not bad for
getting fiber, nutrient, good oil AND great flavor.//

When I first started taking VCO, I took it by itself.  But it wasn't long
before I couldn't quite stomach it by itself.  I imagine dipping a granola
bar in it would almost make it like coconut icing.  Yummy!

Bonnie




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Re: CScoconut oil - wrinkles

2005-06-14 Thread Tad Winiecki
I've been using a solution I make up from approximately 1 tsp.+ Collagen II
added to 1 tblsp hot water, and a 1/4 tsp, Glucosamine Sulfate, or whatever
I think the water will dissolve, with a drop of rose oil added to cover the
chicken smell, in a very small cosmetic jar, I keep refrigerated.   After I
put that on my skin, I put on Apricot Kernel oil which claims to be
rejuvenating.  I think it does well.  I will have to also try some coconut
oil, though I tried it before and thought it was harder to apply being a
solid.

I like adding coconut oil to natural peanut butter.  I put half of the jar
of PB in another jar then add coconut oil to both.  It solidifies the PB
and keeps the oil from separating, and makes it softer so I don't get that
really tough stuff at the bottom of the jar after all the oil is gone.

Nancy



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RE: CScoconut oil Palm Oil

2005-06-08 Thread ransley
Cindy wrote:

Has anyone tried the Natural Palm Oil to know what it tastes like?

I have Red Palm Oil from Tropical Traditions. The taste is neutral and
imparts practically no taste of it's own to food, and it seems to actually
make any food taste more like itself. But it makes everything ORANGE!!!

Daddybob



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Re: CScoconut oil Palm Oil

2005-06-08 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Rowena, please:
When a person is suffering from migraines,
make him stay away as far as you can from chocolates, or Cocaa Colla, 
sigarettes and peanut buttter.

Shun these!
Faith


From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScoconut oil  Palm Oil
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:14:43 +0800

Oh, great!  I do it exactly the other way around!  (The dollar factor!)

One thing that surprised me during my recent research was that Palm Oils 
were being praised, as when my husband tried carob chocolate when he was 
trying to beat his migraines he immeditely got an awful migraine.  When he 
mentioned it to the homeopath, he said it could have been the palm oil they 
use rather than the carob.  So I have avoided anything with palm oil ever 
since.  But what I have discovered recently is that although there are 
indeed good palm oils, the chocolate makers use a cheap and nasty version - 
the dollar factor again!  However, I have never found or tried one of the 
good uns!


Rowena


  Has anyone tried the Natural Palm Oil to know what it tastes like?
  Weston Price Foundation says for cooking to use the Coconut or Palm Oils 
and

  to use Olive for when the food isn't being heated.


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Re: CScoconut oil Palm Oil

2005-06-08 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Rowena, please:
When a person is suffering from migraines,
make him stay away as far as you can from chocolates, or Cocaa Colla, 
sigarettes and peanut buttter.

Shun these!
Faith


From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScoconut oil  Palm Oil
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:14:43 +0800

Oh, great!  I do it exactly the other way around!  (The dollar factor!)

One thing that surprised me during my recent research was that Palm Oils 
were being praised, as when my husband tried carob chocolate when he was 
trying to beat his migraines he immeditely got an awful migraine.  When he 
mentioned it to the homeopath, he said it could have been the palm oil they 
use rather than the carob.  So I have avoided anything with palm oil ever 
since.  But what I have discovered recently is that although there are 
indeed good palm oils, the chocolate makers use a cheap and nasty version - 
the dollar factor again!  However, I have never found or tried one of the 
good uns!


Rowena


  Has anyone tried the Natural Palm Oil to know what it tastes like?
  Weston Price Foundation says for cooking to use the Coconut or Palm Oils 
and

  to use Olive for when the food isn't being heated.


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Re: CScoconut oil

2005-06-07 Thread Acmeair
But the Tropical Traditions is very strongly coconut tasting, and also 
very sweet tasting to me. Bread made with it is _nasty_, too _sweet_. _I 
can't imagine frying eggs in it_


did you try their expeller oil

I am using it mainly in my skin cream, but it is going to take me 
forever to use it up that way.


then,  why don't you become benevolent, and give some away to your 
friends for their skin???


I just cannot use it in cooking.then don't

I thought maybe French Toast in the TT coconut oil would be ok, but I 
disliked it there too


again, did you  try expeller processed oil???.

I used to like popcorn with a mix of coconut oil and olive oil, but the 
Tropical Traditions was _horrible_ in that, too, it doesn't taste 
_bad_ just too sweet


i use tropical traditions coconut oil, both virgin and expeller, and 
love them both. i am about to order some from Omega,  to check out their 
quality.  IMHO when a newbie asked for an opinion about some product 
that is being discussed on the site here, i would think that you could 
choose your words a little more carefully.   Nasty,  too sweet,  
can't imagine, horrible, bad, Maybe I'm the weird 
one  hhh!


jim




sol wrote:

The Omega coconut oil I used for a year was ok. Not too coconutty for 
me, and it didn't make everything taste too sweet either.  But the 
Tropical Traditions is very strongly coconut tasting, and also very 
sweet tasting to me. Bread made with it is nasty, too sweet. I can't 
imagine frying eggs in it. I am using it mainly in my skin cream, but 
it is going to take me forever to use it up that way. I just cannot 
use it in cooking.


Maybe I'm the weird one, I love my sweets as well as any sugar 
addicted person, but I cannot stand any regular food to be sweet. I 
don't like sweet bread unless it is a cinnamon roll, for example.



I used to like popcorn with a mix of coconut oil and olive oil, but 
the Tropical Traditions was horrible in that, too, it doesn't taste 
bad just too sweet and too coconut. I always thought I liked 
coconut, but maybe I really don't.

sol

mama...@netzero.net wrote:

Dear Christine, I`ve been reading all the input about coconut oil, 
and it sounds interesting. But I have to ask a dumb question...does 
it taste like coconut, or is it different somehow? The reason I ask, 
that is one flavor I`ve never cared much for. I have had fresh 
coconut, and the shredded in things, and even had my hair washed in 
coconut-smelling shampoo. Like the flavors of mint and coffee, both 
of which I also dislike, I`ll pass.

(Maybe I`m just weird, as I like the smell of sulfur.)
Thanks,
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Re: CScoconut oil, lipomas, and Mycobacterium paratuberculosis.

2005-06-07 Thread Rowena
Ernie said: You can buy refined organic coconut oil which doesn't have the 
coconut

taste. I've used this and it's fine. I don't particularly care for the
taste either especially when u cook something and it messes up the taste
of the dish you're making. It's not AS pure per say but better then
hydrogenated.

Rowena says: The Tropical Traditions site says: Expeller Pressed Coconut oil 
is less expensive than Virgin Coconut Oil, and because it goes through a 
steam deodorizing process the taste is very bland, unlike Virgin Coconut Oil 
which retains the odor and taste of fresh coconuts. Some people prefer a 
bland, tasteless oil. This coconut oil is solid below 76 degrees F. and 
liquid above that.  http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/epco.htm


Maybe they have to deodorise it because it tastes so strong anyway that 
people would only want to use it on their skin - if they could bear the 
smell.  The one I use is only pleasant, though I did have one once which 
smelled and tasted too strong for me.  The one I like is direct micro 
expressed.  (Kokonut).
I have wondered whether it is the skin or brown membrane that causes the 
strong taste.  Someone said that it is full of iodine and should not be 
included in the oil or it will spoil the oil and cream.  If they are making 
oil without grating the membrane I have to take my hat off to them - I don't 
know how they do it!


One person on the Tropical Traditions forum said that since she has started 
using VCNO her lipomas have been shrinking.  Might that suggest that the oil 
is dissolving something in the lipomas, working on the lipid level, or 
perhaps killing germs?  I can't find any indication that germs of any kind 
are associated with lipomas, but as they seem to be finding increasing bugs 
causing all sorts of stuff my mind is wide open to the possibility.  A site 
talking about Mycobacterium paratuberculosis said in part that by 
interfering with the immune system it can cause illnesses without 
researchers being able to find a connection in the disease site. I can't 
help wondering whether there is some bug (maybe so small they haven't found 
it yet??) causing fatty rubbish to be dumped in some compromised area where 
lipomas form.



It was found that people with Crohn's improved on a drug for tuberculosis,
suggesting that it is the TB like germ PARATB mycobacterium paratuberculosis
causing Crohns. .  The companies and gvts won't test it until it is
demonstrated to make people ill.  Crohns rates highest in lands which have
high usage of milk, unless the milk is boiled.  It is not easily detected in
microscopic examination and can take up to a year to show in other tests.
The cure is said to be to return cattle to grass feed rather than grain.  It
survives pasteurisation in raw milk.  It needs to be pasteurised in a
turbulent flow.  Grass fed cows do not harbour as many bacteria.  The
incidence of Crohns went up in the twenties when farmers began feeding grain
instead of grass.  Meat probably infected, but greatest risk from milk.  In
cattle, it is called Johne's disease.  A connection between the two would
devastate the cattle industry.  Infection shows up second and third decade
of life, but likely to have been infected in childhood during the milk
drinking years.  UK pasteurisers have increased pasteurisation time from 15
to 25 seconds.  Macrolide antibiotics are effective against it. (Antibiotic
regime reqs 4 different, high dose, could also produce antibiotic resistant
strains).
The germs aren't actually found in the affected tissues, they just initiate
the reaction that causes the particular disease.
They are small like viruses and have a fatty cover.  At the first sign of
heat it forms a spore, and re-emerges in its original form when things cool
down.  The wall contains mycolic acid which occurs nowhere else.  After
giving no symptoms for decades, it can emerge as an illness in the digestive
system (Crohn's), brain (Parkinson's) or in the immune system as RA, lupus,
diabetes, scleroderma, sarcoidosis,  . . .  one infection causing many
diseases, based on the location it shows up in.  It suppresses the immune
system and so does not show up in TB tests.  medamericaresearch.org article
by the Dr who found link in Mad Cow disease to Alzheimers, Parkinsons, etc.
Selenium, Vit D (cod liver oil) Vit C, garlic, berberine, phytic acid,  may
help.

http://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/report.asp?story=How%20To%20Prepare%20For%20The%20Upcoming%20Influenza%20Pandemic
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Re: CScoconut oil Palm Oil

2005-06-07 Thread CH

Has anyone tried the Natural Palm Oil to know what it tastes like?

Weston Price Foundation says for cooking to use the Coconut or Palm Oils and 
to use Olive for when the food isn't being heated.


Thanks,

Cindy


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CSCoconut oil-Canada

2005-06-07 Thread Sandy . Green
Does anyone know of a good source of good coconut oil in Canada?  Ontario?
 
Sandy


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Re: CSCoconut oil-Canada

2005-06-07 Thread kallie miller
Quality First in Guelph Canada has great coconut oil.  In fact it is as good
as the Traditions brand and may cost even less for US people as well.

http://www.qualityfirst.on.ca/Premium%20Coconut.htm

Kallie Miller

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Subject: CSCoconut oil-Canada


 Does anyone know of a good source of good coconut oil in Canada?
Ontario?

 Sandy



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Re: CScoconut oil Palm Oil

2005-06-07 Thread Rowena
Oh, great!  I do it exactly the other way around!  (The dollar factor!)

One thing that surprised me during my recent research was that Palm Oils were 
being praised, as when my husband tried carob chocolate when he was trying to 
beat his migraines he immeditely got an awful migraine.  When he mentioned it 
to the homeopath, he said it could have been the palm oil they use rather than 
the carob.  So I have avoided anything with palm oil ever since.  But what I 
have discovered recently is that although there are indeed good palm oils, the 
chocolate makers use a cheap and nasty version - the dollar factor again!  
However, I have never found or tried one of the good uns!

Rowena


  Has anyone tried the Natural Palm Oil to know what it tastes like?
  Weston Price Foundation says for cooking to use the Coconut or Palm Oils and 
  to use Olive for when the food isn't being heated.


Re: CSCoconut oil-Canada

2005-06-07 Thread Rowena

This might help, Sandy:
In addition to coconut oil, Simply Coconuts sells Shea Butter, which is made 
from the nut from the Shea tree and imported from Ghana, West Africa.  It is 
shipped directly from the jungle, encased in a gourd.  Plus, Simply Coconuts 
is the only Canadian distributor of natural Palm Oil, a natural food product 
that gives a nutty flavour to baked goods and chocolate.
Traditional manufacturers place a high value on product profits.Simply 
Coconuts makes oil with their customers' health in mind.
Simply Coconut products can be purchased in London, Ontario at State of 
Foods, Adelaide and Commissioners Road, and at Turner Drug Stores, 52 Grand 
Ave.  Visit Simply Coconuts at www.simplycoconuts.com for other locations.


I will check my records; someone did mention an address but I don't know if 
I still have it.  Will enquire.

Rowena


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Re: CSCoconut oil-Canada

2005-06-07 Thread Rowena

Someone said: Best brand for me is Nature's Blessings Organic VCO.
It's also USDA certified as to the coconuts and the process.
It's available in Canada, too, for your info;

The article I quoted a moment ago was from 
http://www.networkingtoday.on.ca/articles/simplycoconuts.htm


It also says: Since olive oil has a low temperature tolerance, it burns 
when cooking at high temperatures.  It is best used for salads, said 
Atkinson.  Coconut oil tolerates high temperature cooking.  It makes a 
difference in how food tastes.will leave meat moister.  Chicken will taste 
like chicken, not the oil.  - so it looks as if I had better stop the olive 
oil cooking after all!


Rowena


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CScoconut oil

2005-06-06 Thread cmccauley

I have to chime in here.  I use the Supreme Coconut Oil from
http://coconutoil-online.com - daily.  I buy it by the gallon (or two).  It
is the best tasting coconut oil I've used yet.  I've tried the Tropical
Traditions (they have a good sale on right now for gallons)  and it tastes
very good too but they do use some high heat to process it.  The Supreme
oil doesn't.  This info is just from reading the 'processing' info of both
kinds.

Here's some info from the site:
http://coconutoil-online.com/index.html#Anchor-TYPE-12252about the
different types of c. oils.

Anyway, they are both fabulous oils.  Yummy right off the spoon.
Just-layed eggs fried in coconut oil is to die for, IMHO.  Oh yeah, their
dessicated coconut is also very good.   Add it to your fried chicken
coating/batter and then fry the chicken in the coconut oil.   Heavenly.

Christine Mc.


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Re: CScoconut oil

2005-06-06 Thread bbanever
I would think that by cooking/frying with the oil you might be destroying 
some of it's beneficial properties.
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I have to chime in here.  I use the Supreme Coconut Oil from
http://coconutoil-online.com - daily.  I buy it by the gallon (or two). 
It

is the best tasting coconut oil I've used yet.  I've tried the Tropical
Traditions (they have a good sale on right now for gallons)  and it tastes
very good too but they do use some high heat to process it.  The Supreme
oil doesn't.  This info is just from reading the 'processing' info of both
kinds.

Here's some info from the site:
http://coconutoil-online.com/index.html#Anchor-TYPE-12252about the
different types of c. oils.

Anyway, they are both fabulous oils.  Yummy right off the spoon.
Just-layed eggs fried in coconut oil is to die for, IMHO.  Oh yeah, their
dessicated coconut is also very good.   Add it to your fried chicken
coating/batter and then fry the chicken in the coconut oil.   Heavenly.

Christine Mc.


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Re: CScoconut oil

2005-06-06 Thread Barbara
Thank you very much for the info and links, Christine.
I really appreciate it :)

Barbara





 I have to chime in here.  I use the Supreme Coconut Oil from
 http://coconutoil-online.com - daily.  I buy it by the gallon (or two).
It
 is the best tasting coconut oil I've used yet.  I've tried the Tropical
 Traditions (they have a good sale on right now for gallons)  and it tastes
 very good too but they do use some high heat to process it.  The Supreme
 oil doesn't.  This info is just from reading the 'processing' info of both
 kinds.

 Here's some info from the site:
 http://coconutoil-online.com/index.html#Anchor-TYPE-12252about the
 different types of c. oils.

 Anyway, they are both fabulous oils.  Yummy right off the spoon.
 Just-layed eggs fried in coconut oil is to die for, IMHO.  Oh yeah, their
 dessicated coconut is also very good.   Add it to your fried chicken
 coating/batter and then fry the chicken in the coconut oil.   Heavenly.

 Christine Mc.



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RE: CScoconut oil

2005-06-06 Thread ransley
Christine Mc. wrote:

I use the Supreme Coconut Oil from
http://coconutoil-online.com - dailyJust-layed eggs fried in coconut oil
is to die for, IMHO.  Oh yeah, their dessicated coconut is also very
good...

STOP IT, YOU'RE MAKING ME HUNGRY!
Yes their dessicated coconut is very good without being too sweet. But I
love their oats too, just ordered a jug. They're the first oats I've ever
eaten that made me want more. Their oats, with their coconut sprinkled on
top, and their coconut oil melted in them, are really good.
Daddybob


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Re: CScoconut oil

2005-06-06 Thread mama...@netzero.net

Dear Christine, 
 I`ve been reading all the input about coconut oil, and it sounds interesting. 
But I have to ask a dumb question...does it taste like coconut, or is it 
different somehow? 
 The reason I ask, that is one flavor I`ve never cared much for. I have had 
fresh coconut, and the shredded in things, and even had my hair washed in 
coconut-smelling shampoo. Like the flavors of mint and coffee, both of which I 
also dislike, I`ll pass.
(Maybe I`m just weird, as I like the smell of sulfur.)
Thanks,
Marshalee


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RE: CScoconut oil

2005-06-06 Thread Ernie Patai
I was reading your post Marshalee.
You can buy refined organic coconut oil which doesn't have the coconut
taste. I've used this and it's fine. I don't particularly care for the
taste either especially when u cook something and it messes up the taste
of the dish you're making. It's not AS pure per say but better then
hydrogenated.
It's a trade off for purity I suppose. :-)

Ernie

The reason I ask, that is one flavor I`ve never cared much for. I have
had fresh coconut, and the shredded in things, and even had my hair
washed in coconut-smelling shampoo. Like the flavors of mint and coffee,
both of which I also dislike, I`ll pass.



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Re: CScoconut oil

2005-06-06 Thread sol
The Omega coconut oil I used for a year was ok. Not too coconutty for 
me, and it didn't make everything taste too sweet either.  But the 
Tropical Traditions is very strongly coconut tasting, and also very 
sweet tasting to me. Bread made with it is nasty, too sweet. I can't 
imagine frying eggs in it. I am using it mainly in my skin cream, but it 
is going to take me forever to use it up that way. I just cannot use it 
in cooking.


Maybe I'm the weird one, I love my sweets as well as any sugar addicted 
person, but I cannot stand any regular food to be sweet. I don't like 
sweet bread unless it is a cinnamon roll, for example. I thought maybe 
French Toast in the TT coconut oil would be ok, but I disliked it there 
too.


I used to like popcorn with a mix of coconut oil and olive oil, but the 
Tropical Traditions was horrible in that, too, it doesn't taste bad 
just too sweet and too coconut. I always thought I liked coconut, but 
maybe I really don't.

sol

mama...@netzero.net wrote:

Dear Christine, 
I`ve been reading all the input about coconut oil, and it sounds interesting. But I have to ask a dumb question...does it taste like coconut, or is it different somehow? 
The reason I ask, that is one flavor I`ve never cared much for. I have had fresh coconut, and the shredded in things, and even had my hair washed in coconut-smelling shampoo. Like the flavors of mint and coffee, both of which I also dislike, I`ll pass.

(Maybe I`m just weird, as I like the smell of sulfur.)
Thanks,
Marshalee

 




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Re: CScoconut oil--wrinkles-emu oil

2005-06-05 Thread Barbara
Well, maybe I need this too :)  Thanks PJ. 

Barbara





As a topical, I have found emu oil to be
 superior to coconut oil (Tropical Traditions)for
 wrinkles.  I am a 64 yr. old female.  The emu oil
 is Nature's Concept and is $10.00 for a 2 oz.
 bottle.  A little goes a long way.  It feels
 wonderful going on and in a while, skin looks
 much fresher.   Just my experience.   pj
 



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Re: CScoconut oil - chocs

2005-06-04 Thread twllLL
Use it s a anti wrinkle cream.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:51 AM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil - chocs


  I don't know what it tastes like, though I would like to try.  I am in 
Australia, and I use Kokonut Pacific oil, which is great.  I suggest you try a 
little of whatever oil you plan to buy before buying a big quantity.  I can 
take KP oil out of the jar, but another oil, which I persevered with despite 
what my body was telling me, had me feeling unwell for a week after first 
laying me low with vomiting and the rest of it!

  My impression, without experience, is that expeller (DME Direct Micro 
Expelled, I think) oil is up there with the best, with a possibility that the 
centrifuged oil is the best - but as you already know, I have not tried it so 
am just judging from what people say.  Daddybob is the boy to tell you, when he 
gets to his mail.

  The way I have found the least noticeable is to make what I call 
chocolates, where to a quantity of liquid oil in a bowl (scientific 
measurement: one slosh) I add a mix of ground fresh nuts and seeds of my 
choice.  Having discovered a pack of LSA (linseed, sunflower seed, almond meal) 
that was waiting to be used was already a year past its use by date, I have 
started milling my own in a coffee grinder, which works well.  I also add 
desiccated coconut.  The sites say that normal commercial desiccated coconut 
has sulphur added as a preservataive at the very least, and many add sweetener 
as well.  I should like to get the dried coconut that these people sell if I 
can't find a source in Australia.  (I also add xyliltol and cocoa, though when 
I get a good dried coconut I plan to try it with just coconut and VCNO and 
whatever flavourings I decided on at the time, white chocs?).  If I think I 
may have added too much dry stuff, I add more oil.

  To my chocs I also add good-for-you-spices like cinnamon, ginger, cloves, 
nutmeg.  I could also add poppy seeds, caraway, whatever.  I just haven't got 
around to that yet.  There's also orange water and rose water.

  When I make my chocs, I find that the mix doesn't look or feel quite right 
until I add the cocoa; I assume this is because it fills in little spaces 
between the nut and seed particles.  The scientists could probably set me 
straight here.  If you wonder why I use cocoa - we can't get dark unsweetened 
choc here very easily.

  The fancy possibilities are endless when it comes to setting the chocs, but 
my quick and easy system now is to put the mix between two sheets of 
greaseproof paper in a pan (I will use waxed paper when I get some; I have also 
used freezer gobetween), flatten it out, cut into squares, cover, and put in 
the freezer for a few minutes.  Almost instant treats.

  This gives me a way of taking in my nuts and seeds as well as other medicinal 
goodies and satisfying any decadent sweet tooth that may be left in my head.  
Some people add dried fruit, dates, whatever.

  Rowena


  Do you know of any even better tasting oil?  I'm asking because I plan on 
eating it out of a jar... 
http://www.coconutoil-online.com/
  Rowena
  Though I haven't had any myself.
  lots of interesting internal links.

Re: CScoconut oil - chocs

2005-06-04 Thread Barbara
Oh wow, RowenaI did not know that a person can even get ill fom taking a 
coconut oil.I will make sure to start slow.  My health food store carries 2 
or 3 kinds of the oil but I have no idea how they taste. 
I will look if there is anything on the jars to tell me how they are made.  

Rowena, thank you so much for telling me the way how to make different tasting 
chocolates... :)  I don't think I would have thought about such creations 
myself.  I do love the taste of cocoa and I definitely will try to add it to my 
mix.  I also use Stevia as a sweetener for everything that I like sweet.  

I will also wait for Daddybob and see what he has to say :) 

Barbara




  I don't know what it tastes like, though I would like to try.  I am in 
Australia, and I use Kokonut Pacific oil, which is great.  I suggest you try a 
little of whatever oil you plan to buy before buying a big quantity.  I can 
take KP oil out of the jar, but another oil, which I persevered with despite 
what my body was telling me, had me feeling unwell for a week after first 
laying me low with vomiting and the rest of it!

  My impression, without experience, is that expeller (DME Direct Micro 
Expelled, I think) oil is up there with the best, with a possibility that the 
centrifuged oil is the best - but as you already know, I have not tried it so 
am just judging from what people say.  Daddybob is the boy to tell you, when he 
gets to his mail.

  The way I have found the least noticeable is to make what I call 
chocolates, where to a quantity of liquid oil in a bowl (scientific 
measurement: one slosh) I add a mix of ground fresh nuts and seeds of my 
choice.  Having discovered a pack of LSA (linseed, sunflower seed, almond meal) 
that was waiting to be used was already a year past its use by date, I have 
started milling my own in a coffee grinder, which works well.  I also add 
desiccated coconut.  The sites say that normal commercial desiccated coconut 
has sulphur added as a preservataive at the very least, and many add sweetener 
as well.  I should like to get the dried coconut that these people sell if I 
can't find a source in Australia.  (I also add xyliltol and cocoa, though when 
I get a good dried coconut I plan to try it with just coconut and VCNO and 
whatever flavourings I decided on at the time, white chocs?).  If I think I 
may have added too much dry stuff, I add more oil.

  To my chocs I also add good-for-you-spices like cinnamon, ginger, cloves, 
nutmeg.  I could also add poppy seeds, caraway, whatever.  I just haven't got 
around to that yet.  There's also orange water and rose water.

  When I make my chocs, I find that the mix doesn't look or feel quite right 
until I add the cocoa; I assume this is because it fills in little spaces 
between the nut and seed particles.  The scientists could probably set me 
straight here.  If you wonder why I use cocoa - we can't get dark unsweetened 
choc here very easily.

  The fancy possibilities are endless when it comes to setting the chocs, but 
my quick and easy system now is to put the mix between two sheets of 
greaseproof paper in a pan (I will use waxed paper when I get some; I have also 
used freezer gobetween), flatten it out, cut into squares, cover, and put in 
the freezer for a few minutes.  Almost instant treats.

  This gives me a way of taking in my nuts and seeds as well as other medicinal 
goodies and satisfying any decadent sweet tooth that may be left in my head.  
Some people add dried fruit, dates, whatever.

  Rowena




Re: CScoconut oil - chocs

2005-06-04 Thread Barbara
Does it work?

Barbara




  Use it s a anti wrinkle cream.


Re: CScoconut oil - wrinkles

2005-06-04 Thread Rowena
Photograph required, please, Twill.

  Does it work?

  Barbara




Use it s a anti wrinkle cream.


Re: CScoconut oil - wrinkles

2005-06-04 Thread Barbara
LOL

Barbara



  Photograph required, please, Twill.


Does it work?

Barbara




  Use it s a anti wrinkle cream.


Re: CScoconut oil - wrinkles

2005-06-04 Thread twllLL
I like to use it after i take a shower  before bedtime.
Putting it around the areas where fine lines like to take hold.
I don't know if it will get rid of the ones you already have.
It should help to keep them at bay.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Barbara 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil - wrinkles


  LOL

  Barbara



Photograph required, please, Twill.


  Does it work?

  Barbara




Use it s a anti wrinkle cream.


Re: CScoconut oil - wrinkles

2005-06-04 Thread Barbara
Looks like I need it, then :)

Barbara




  I like to use it after i take a shower  before bedtime.
  Putting it around the areas where fine lines like to take hold.
  I don't know if it will get rid of the ones you already have.
  It should help to keep them at bay.




CScoconut oil--wrinkles-emu oil

2005-06-04 Thread Shirley Reed
   As a topical, I have found emu oil to be
superior to coconut oil (Tropical Traditions)for
wrinkles.  I am a 64 yr. old female.  The emu oil
is Nature's Concept and is $10.00 for a 2 oz.
bottle.  A little goes a long way.  It feels
wonderful going on and in a while, skin looks
much fresher.   Just my experience.   pj



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CScoconut oil

2005-06-03 Thread ransley
I've used:

Expeller pressed c-nut oil by both Wilderness Family Naturals and Tropical
Traditions. Good clean oils but not really to my liking, and I can't tell a
difference between them.

Naturally fermented Phillipine style from both WFN  TT. I like both.

Coconut Oil Supreme from Coconut Oil Online. I LOVE IT. Delicious right out
of the jar.

Spectrum, availble in grocery stores- Nasty.

Tree of life, available in health food stores- Bad Nasty.

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Re: CScoconut oil

2005-06-03 Thread Rowena
Hello there, Daddybob!
What I can't quite work out is what the difference is between the nice ones and 
the others.
It must be in the processing rather than the nuts themselves, surely.
If I recall trawling the sites, Supreme was the centrifuged one, right?
I should like to try it, but would have to send overseas, I think. Nuisance.
You preferred the fermented to the expeller pressed, did you? 
Do you know how they process the nasty ones?
Rowena
  I've used:
  Expeller pressed c-nut oil by both Wilderness Family Naturals and Tropical
  Traditions. Good clean oils but not really to my liking, and I can't tell a
  difference between them.

  Naturally fermented Phillipine style from both WFN  TT. I like both.

  Coconut Oil Supreme from Coconut Oil Online. I LOVE IT. Delicious right out
  of the jar.

  Spectrum, availble in grocery stores- Nasty.

  Tree of life, available in health food stores- Bad Nasty.

  Daddybob


Re: CScoconut oil

2005-06-03 Thread Barbara
What is the link to this delicious coconut oil?  If you posted it already,
I must have missed it :(  I'm sorry
Thanks...

Barbara





 Coconut Oil Supreme from Coconut Oil Online. I LOVE IT. 
 Delicious right out
 of the jar.

 Daddybob




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Re: CScoconut oil

2005-06-03 Thread Rowena
http://www.coconutoil-online.com/
Rowena
Though I haven't had any myself.
lots of interesting internal links.


  What is the link to this delicious coconut oil? Barbara




  
   Coconut Oil Supreme from Coconut Oil Online. I LOVE IT. 
   Delicious right out
   of the jar.
  
   Daddybob
  


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