Neat stuff.
Visualising data in creative ways is just great.
It makes so much accessible to the average person. I believe it was
critical in explaining SOPA/PIPA and ACTA.
Can you specialise in Infographics yet? :-)
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Sam, how many countries have you travelled to for Vacation or business, if
it wasn't from airport to meeting and back?
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Where is the original link ? somehow the opening email didn't come
through for me.
IRS coughs up $320M to overhaul website (
http://gcn.com/articles/2012/01/18/irs-spending-320m-on-website-improvements.aspx
)
As the Internal Revenue Service begins accepting returns this week for the
2012
and a pragmatist. He was all about building coalitions, and VISTA (a
US government agency) used to use his book to train their volunteers.
I'll give you that he was a pragmatist. But, so were Stalin and Mao.
I know the right has been demonizing him because of the Chicago-organizer
link to
I'm not as many as I would've thought:
Germany
France
Italy
UK
Belgium
Netherlands
Luxembourg
Switzerland
Sweden
Iceland
Japan
Canada
Jamaica
Belize
14
I used to go france a few times a year and I've been to all of them multiple
times ... so I guess it seems like more. Good question!
On Jan
You are Sam? 0_0 ZO.M.G.
Anyways..not many here at all.
USA
Canada
Barbados
Curacao
Grenada
Tobago (Doesn't count I know lol)
Antigua
Dominica
I haven't been across the Pond yet. heh.
On 28 January 2012 11:11, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not as many as I would've thought:
myself no so many in the last few years, but stretch that out a bit more,
Canada,
US
Germany
France
England
Belgium
Cyprus
Norway
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not as many as I would've thought:
Germany
France
Italy
UK
Belgium
Netherlands
Why are most social liberals really haters? So you pretend to love
gays and Muslims but in reality you mock everyone not like you. Heavy
people, drug dependent people, Blacks and Jews from what you said so
far. I bet everyone that's not the cause of the day from the TPM.
Grow up will you?
.
You are too funny. In such a sad way.
.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
yup ;) did you see what happened when I tried to explain neo-liberal? I
think I was talking to someone else, but he was part of the utter
incomprehension ;)
Why?
Seems like a very odd question.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
Sam, how many countries have you travelled to for Vacation or business, if
it wasn't from airport to meeting and back?
LOL! It only becomes odd if you don't answer hahaha
On 28 January 2012 12:17, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Why?
Seems like a very odd question.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
Sam, how many countries have you travelled to for Vacation or business,
I suspect that if he ever did it would be a negative number.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
LOL! It only becomes odd if you don't answer hahaha
On 28 January 2012 12:17, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Why?
Seems like a very odd question.
.
On Sat,
I guess now I have to play.
Canada
Mexico
Aruba
Cayman
Wales
England
Ireland
Luxembourg
France
Italy
Germany
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect that if he ever did it would be a negative number.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Vivec
Tsk. That is disingenuous, Sam.
There is a difference between hating and being crassly honest.
I am guessing you already know that, though.
On 1/28/2012 11:14 AM, Sam wrote:
Why are most social liberals really haters? So you pretend to love
gays and Muslims but in reality you mock everyone
Sam's definition of haters is anyone who doesn't agree with him.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:01 AM, PT cft...@gmail.com wrote:
Tsk. That is disingenuous, Sam.
There is a difference between hating and being crassly honest.
I am guessing you already know that, though.
Ignorance is not an excuse for hating people. But he probably
appreciates the backhanded attempt at defending him.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:01 PM, PT cft...@gmail.com wrote:
Tsk. That is disingenuous, Sam.
There is a difference between hating and being crassly honest.
I am guessing you
Weren't you on his hit list for awhile?
Just saying.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Sam's definition of haters is anyone who doesn't agree with him.
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On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
and a pragmatist. He was all about building coalitions, and VISTA (a
US government agency) used to use his book to train their volunteers.
I'll give you that he was a pragmatist. But, so were Stalin and Mao.
Wait...
No...only ignoramuses like you Sam.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 10:14 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
Why are most social liberals really haters? So you pretend to love gays and
Muslims but in reality
um... I don't think Gruss has a hit list, speaking as someone who's had
prolonged arguments with Grussat least there's a willingness there to
consider other points of view and sometimes even to reconsider an opinion.
That said, um yeah, I did think the remark about fatties just need to push
Whatever works ;)
That said, um yeah, I did think the remark about fatties just need to push
away from the table was a bit much.
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Gruss and I have often clashed over issues, but I don't consider that
type of discourse as hating. The only person here who gratuitously
makes personal attacks on others rather than attacking their opinions
or statements is you.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
My point is that that doesn't actually. Well, some people do just overeat,
I guess. A better question might be why. But even Gruss was once saying
that if you just quit eating the body goes into starvation mode and it all
becomes much much harder. So no, it really is not that simple. I am not
Obesity is such a complex problem that even those researchers who
specialize in it don't understand it completely. To sum up the
solution with push back from table only shows the ignorance of the
person making the comment. I don't know anyone who wants to be
fat.
However even as difficult as
Not nearly enough for me, sadly.
US
Canada
Ireland
England
Netherlands
Germany
So, 5 outside my home country.
Judah
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not as many as I would've thought:
Germany
France
Italy
UK
Belgium
Netherlands
Luxembourg
hehe yep
However even as difficult as curing obesity is, it's still easier than
curing stupid.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
My point is that that doesn't actually. Well, some people do just
overeat,
I guess. A better question might be why. But
I did think the remark about fatties just need to push away from the table
was a bit much.
But referring to an overweight people as fatties isn't? Just sayin.
I have to agree with Gruss on this one though. Controlling your eating is
the best way not to become obese. Being overweight (in
If fatties knew how to lose weight, they probably would ;)
I think it's more accurate to say that if they were able to motivate
themselves they would lose weight. Surely every single person in the
Western world knows how to lose weight.
I wish mine was more too.
Canada
England
Scotland
Mexico
Dominican Republic
Trinidad
Tobago
Venezuela
U.S.A. (you-es-eh! you-es-eh! you-es-eh!)
Hawaii (I don't think it really counts as the US and neither do
the Hawaiian's)
Dying to do a number of places in Europe and would love to go to
Afghanistan
Kosovo
Egypt
Kuwait
Saudi Arabia
France
Germany
Ireland
Italy
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish mine was more too.
Canada
England
Scotland
Mexico
Dominican Republic
Trinidad
Tobago
Venezuela
U.S.A. (you-es-eh! you-es-eh! you-es-eh!)
it was actually that word that I thought a bit offensive more than the
sentiment, which many express. I disagree with it, but fine. I did not
myself take issue with it, but once I found myself defending Gruss, I added
it in as a caveat. The statement, apparently the trigger for Sam's attack,
was
Yeah, there are at least a couple of hundred books in any bookstore on the
subject, right? Except that they mostly don't agree. And choices that might
seem to make sense - drinking fruit juice for example - make less than you
might think because of factors that might not occur to you, like high
Ah, well that's different then. :)
Having obese members of my family makes me less than thrilled with the term
fatties too.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
it was actually that word that I thought a bit offensive more than the
sentiment, which many
Actually, they don't. There is so much misinformation about weight
loss circulating that most people have no real idea of how to lose
weight beyond the standard exercise and eat right:. But when it
comes to defining what eating right means, even the experts
disagree. Over the last eight
I agree. It is much more complicated than drinking fruit juice. Drinking
fruit juice isn't a weight-loss or a fitness plan. It's a drop in the ocean
of what would need to happen to be in shape.
Who in the Western world truly doesn't know that eating and exercise habits
are the two biggest
How many of those voluntarily? :)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
Afghanistan
Kosovo
Egypt
Kuwait
Saudi Arabia
France
Germany
Ireland
Italy
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish mine was more too.
Canada
We all know diet is only one leg of the stool. Yes, dietary guidelines
change over time and there's different theories. The other two legs of the
stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember. Reasonable
portions and routine exercise.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Maureen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
Who in the Western world truly doesn't know that eating and exercise habits
are the two biggest factors in having a healthy body? This has been common
knowledge since long before you or I were born.
Everyone is agreeing that
Me..
England
Scotland
France
Bahamas
Virgin islands
Puerto rico
Bermuda
On Jan 28, 2012 4:09 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
How many of those voluntarily? :)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
Afghanistan
Kosovo
Egypt
Kuwait
Which is where simply pushing away from the table comes in :)
See? Not ignorant at all. 2/3 accurate.
On 1/28/2012 4:08 PM, Medic wrote:
The other two legs of the
stool though haven't changed since as long as I can remember. Reasonable
portions and routine exercise.
If you push away from the table while sitting on a one legged stool,
you're probably gonna fall down. Just sayin.
Judah
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM, PT cft...@gmail.com wrote:
Which is where simply pushing away from the table comes in :)
See? Not ignorant at all. 2/3 accurate.
On
What I meant was, she was overweight a couple years back. GG hates
heavy people and has stated here many times. Just ask him about Rush.
That reminds me. He also hates addicts but want's drugs to be
legalized. See the social liberal contradiction?
Don't get stuck on the push away from the table
I call your views to the left of mainstream and you cry about personal
attacks. Yet almost every response to me is about how I can't think
for myself and can only parrot what extreme right-wing commentators
tell me say.
Do you still not see the irony there?
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:50 PM,
I didn't think I was attacking him as much as calling him a hypocrite.
It was constructive criticism intended for self evaluation rather than
an insult. If it was perceived as an insult I apologize.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
it was actually that
it's only a part of the problem, and only for some people, is all I am
saying.
Someone who *used* to eat too much, or gained weight for some other reason,
may have quite a good diet, which is keeping them from gaining more but not
causing them to lose the extra they have. I think you pretty much
I see, I guess the Grow up will you made it an personal attack.
Sorry about that.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn't think I was attacking him as much as calling him a hypocrite.
It was constructive criticism intended for self evaluation rather than
an
I think he volunteered for all of them ;)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
How many of those voluntarily? :)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
Afghanistan
Kosovo
Egypt
Kuwait
Saudi Arabia
France
that you seem to be missing.
Not even close. We're talking about obesity, and you're talking
about cholesterol. Completely different topics entirely. Dana and Mo seemed
to be saying that people don't know how to lose weight. I said that's
false. Everyone knows how to lose weight. You chiming
ha, by that logic I get to count Texas, New Mexico and California ;)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish mine was more too.
Hawaii (I don't think it really counts as the US and neither do
the Hawaiian's)
it does, actually. Everyone assumes that extra weight correlates with high
blood pressure, cholesterol and diabetes. That is only sometimes true. I
understand the focus, because where it is it may be a preventable cause of
illness, but it's still only part of the picture.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at
Couple were deployments, but I volunteered for those too, so ..
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
How many of those voluntarily? :)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:25 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
Afghanistan
Kosovo
Egypt
Kuwait
Maybe we should go back to keeping score in kickball and soccer and
then the kids will actually try to win. That and limit video games.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
that you seem to be missing.
Not even close. We're talking about obesity, and you're
Everyone assumes that? I don't think that's true. You can be within your
target weight and have high blood pressure and/or high cholesterol. I don't
see what that has to do with the statement that people don't know how to
lose weight or with children being obese.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:24
Maybe we should go back to keeping score in kickball and soccer and then
the kids will actually try to win.
Marry me.
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That has nothing to do with Rush being big or being a drug addict. It's the
lies and misinformation that he spreads that we hate. One would think that
was obvious, but you are oblivious to the obvious Sam.
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday,
That is not necessarily an insult but an observation...but one that should
also be taken as an insult and I would find it very insulting to be
considered little more than a parrot...and insult that should motivate you
to look deeper into yourself and see just why everyone seems to have this
Don't forget those who cannot exercise or cannot exercise sufficiently due
to disabilities.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
it's only a part of the problem, and
Right... the exceptions to the rule, which has nothing to do with the other
99.9% of obese people. :)
I don't think anyone is bagging on overweight handicapped people.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
Don't forget those who cannot exercise
It's anecdotal of course, but that's my experience. I started to say
particularly the medical professionals, but that's probably not true --
they are just the ones I've started the conversation with. I imagine other
people think it but refrain from comment, rightly considering it not their
really? How do you know if someone is handicapped? Lots of debilitating
conditions won't put you in a wheelchair.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
Right... the exceptions to the rule, which has nothing to do with the other
99.9% of obese people. :)
I don't
You make me laugh.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
That is not necessarily an insult but an observation...but one that should
also be taken as an insult and I would find it very insulting to be
considered little more than a parrot...and
Let me reverse that then D. What percentage of obese people in North
America can attribute their physical condition to handicaps? Is it a
significant enough number to disregard a common sense approach of eat right
(ie. lots of veggies, not much fried or processed food) and exercise? If it
is,
Exactly...
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:56 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Obesity in Children
really? How do you know if someone is handicapped? Lots of debilitating
conditions won't put you in a wheelchair.
On
On 1/28/2012 5:15 PM, Dana wrote:
I think you pretty much have to
exercise, and perhaps strenuously, to lose significant weight and keep it
off.
I thought this was a given.
but you can't eat all fruit all of
the time and stay healthy.
and this
Before that, when I asked doctors, I got
The big problem is that foods that are cheap tend to have a lot of stuff in
them that are bad for you. That is a big factor in obesity. Many of the
ingredients, like HFCS have been shown to make you gain weight. Other
factors also get into it...things like thyroid disease, diabetes, etc...and
Are you just trying to illustrate that it's not easy to stay at a proper
weight? Or are you saying we're powerless to stop obesity?
On 2012-01-28, at 7:00 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
wrote:
The big problem is that foods that are cheap tend to have a lot of stuff in
don't know and don't have time to look, but I submit that it is
not neglible, a, and b, would depend very much on the definition of
handicap. If you count arthritis and depression it could be high indeed.
Granted, people with those conditions are better off the more they *do*
exercise, but that
I *think* he is supporting my point that telling people to just push away
from the table is a rather insulting oversimplification. Being overweight
is not good, and people should do something about it. But that something is
not always stop super-sizing your French Fries.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at
I would say a little of both. It's really stacked against us. Corporate
greed overrides putting in healthy ingredients...instead we use chemicals
that are harmful to us and tend to increase obesity. In the lower class and
even parts of the middle class...i would say that yes, we are powerless
right, and the reason matters. In her case, she has some sort of bent pin
in her head that makes her equate food with security, I think. I am not
saying this is right, even though she's my mother and I love her dearly.
Clearly, it impairs her health. But the food she eats is healthy. She just
It's possible, just not easy. I think another key is letting processed
foods go, as a group. Even the stuff Whole Foods sells isn't necessarily
organic, and unless you read every single label and look up every
ingredient...I just noticed High fructose corn syrup in the tomato sauce I
was using. I
By the way, these were not fad diets -- well, she did experiment with
high-protein diets at one point. But usually when she lost weight it was by
going to Weight Watchers.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
right, and the reason matters. In her case, she has
Those are choices made out of convenience or laziness. No one is forced to
eat fast food. And few are truly unable to find 30 to 60 minutes a day to
do some exercise. It may not be easy, but it's doable.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
I
sigh, sure. Doable. For most people. Just saying, you do not know what
people are contending with. Maybe they have to eat in their car on their
way to night class. Do you want to praise their initiative or decry their
food choices? Maybe they have to take two buses to get to a supermarket,
and
I'm likely coming across as judgmental because that's essentially what I'm
being. I'm a sucker for hard work and have a hard time accepting the path
of least resistance.
If you have to eat in your car on the way to night class, pack a sandwich
instead of grabbing a burger. It's a simple choice.
For the purposes of this question I propose that Hawaii count as another
country ... It's. Quasi-Asia :)
On Jan 28, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish mine was more too.
Canada
England
Scotland
Mexico
Dominican Republic
Trinidad
Tobago
Venezuela
Anyone been to wisconsin? It might as well be its own country ... They have
their own chains.
Sure they have McD and BK but they also have culvers and kopps.
They have best buy, but they also have American
They have Hom furniture, but they also have steinhafels.
They have ATMs, but they
Going to the gym three times a week and shopping at Whole Foods or
Wild Oats should keep weight in check. But that's the ideal situation
and times are not kind to many. Multiple jobs or overworking the one
job, plus the stress of keeping that job. It's not easy. I used to
practically live in the
hey!
... I did not say powerless. I said doable. For most people. Depends on how
much else they are trying to juggle, and you have no way of knowing how
much that is. So if you want to restate your opinion as people should do
what they can to eat better and exercise more, I'll agree with you ;)
This point is key: the misinformation is rampant.
That said, when I got to the point that I so disgusted myself I couldnt even
consider not taking action ... I did.
Quick synopsis:
At 255 I bought a stationary recumbent and got up to 2 hours a day. I lost
maybe 20 lbs and started gaining
It's one of the few states I missed. Which got me thinking how many
there were. I came up with 17 states that I haven't visited yet.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone been to wisconsin? It might as well be its own country ... They have
their
yeah, I will agree with you there, and it's a heck of a lot easier if you
live in the sticks fifty feet from a creek than if you live in an inner
city where you have to worry about them getting shot, I say, as someone who
has done both. But there are still parks. Swimming pools. Something. There
It's 90%. My wife used to do the cyber arc trainer for hours a day for years.
Then she changed her carb-o-holic ways and in 2 months had the doctor saying
don't lose any more weight
2-arm table push-aways. Seriously.
On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Medic hofme...@gmail.com wrote:
We all
ok then, so you should *know* better than to say that all there is to it is
pushing away from the table. I don't think anyone is whining, or at least I
hope I'm not coming across that way. It's just -- not that simple.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Gruss Gott grussg...@gmail.com wrote:
That was Gruss that said all you need to do is push away from the table. I
said he kind of had a point, but my stance is that you need to have a three
legged stool. Healthier food choices, healthier portions and more physical
activity. :)
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Dana
You lost me. If kids are menu planning than they don't have a hope.
McDonald's as a special occasion, random reward or the rare I'm too
tired to cook, but never when the child demands it.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
about happy meal toys. This may
ok well... maybe Medic is right. Apparently the only thing to do here is
agree to disagree. With all due respect to your wife's experience, it
doesn't correspond to mine. And that's ok, I'm not saying her story isn't
valid. I just wish you would give other people that same respect.
On Sat, Jan
Avoid grains and legumes all together.
Eat organic broccoli, cauliflower, kale, mustard greens, onions, etc.
no fats except avocados, olive oil, flax, nuts, and sheeps milk fat, etc
Salmon, grass fed beef, other wild fish
Avoid all sugars of every kind: (fruits-fructose, dairy-lactose,
Who's saying go to the gym three times a week and only eat tree bark? Spend
20 minutes a day going up and down your stairs at a brisk pace. Spend 10
minutes doing push ups while the news is on. Stop and get a roasted chicken
meal instead of a pizza or burgers if you're in a rush. Don't go for
hi Sam,
Please re-read the last two sentences of the first paragraph. And have a
nice evening.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
You lost me. If kids are menu planning than they don't have a hope.
McDonald's as a special occasion, random reward or the rare I'm
Shouldn't be a fight is my point. If it is it's, you're doing it wrong.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
hi Sam,
Please re-read the last two sentences of the first paragraph. And have a
nice evening.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Sam
I've been through it, and wouldn't mind going back for another look. I kind
of liked Milwaukee, for one thing. As for states I haven't visited, hmm.
Nebraska, the Dakotas. Wyoming, Montana... Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode
Island...possible a state or two adjacent to those. Oh and Hawaii, unless
The parents need to fight the trend and be proactive in getting the kids
outside.
The best way to accomplish this? Go outside WITH them. It's not enough to
say go outside and play. Lead by example and all of a sudden the parents
AND the kids are a healthy weight.
Fad
And I avoid wasting money on oraganics but I guess that's another thread.
Wild salmon is getting so hard to find and very expensive when you do.
I do like the veggies and nuts but it takes time to pop by the veggie
stand every couple of days.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Gruss
Umm... you mean with the kids? Don't think I did, actually, and in any case
they turned out ok. Meant fight to represent the whole uphill battle for
healthy living, not parenting efforts.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Shouldn't be a fight is my point. If it
Ha, and my daughter will say: Do we have to play baseball again?
I keep trying different sports and did find a few she likes but it
still takes arm twisting. Once she's out she always has fun with
daddy.
But most old men would give up.
.
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Medic
It won't. Trust me, been there and it didn't.
I respond well to protein, few carbs, few fats. I respond well to fast
acceleration excercise, not steady state cardio. I know that from years of
experimentation.
But diet is 90%. If all people did was watch their diet they'd be fine. And
90%
it takes time to pop by the veggie stand every couple of days.
You nailed it right there.
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I didn't mean you specifically, I meant the parents that go to McD's
four times a week because the kids demand it. I can't imagine you'd
give in to whiny children.
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On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
Umm... you mean with the kids? Don't think I did,
Well God bless you for not giving up Sam. I wish more parents would arm twist.
because daddy said so, now grab your shoes.
On 2012-01-28, at 9:59 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Ha, and my daughter will say: Do we have to play baseball again?
I keep trying different sports and did
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