Hi Terry,
Life is so much more interesting when one ponders the implications behind the
obvious facts!
I have no doubt that your granddaughter's life is much more enjoyable because
of her grandpa T...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wedne
M
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-Cat vs. Water Heater for coffee/tea...
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Mark Iverson wrote:
>
>>
>> The only way to guage whether the steam flow is adequate is at the
>> outlet of the chimney, NOT at the end
Jeff,
Mass of water in = mass of water out
It doesn't get any simpler.
Everyone is assuming (wrongly) that they are using the instrument to measure
the liquid content
directly, which the instrument clearly cannot do. That is NOT what they are
doing. You obviously
didn't read my posting where
s to see if anything has changed...fighting
over which words are
used in a forum post is a waste of time.
---- Original Message
Subject: RE: [Vo]:E-Cat vs. Water Heater for coffee/tea...
From: "Mark Iverson"
Date: Wed, June 22, 2011 12:09 pm
To:
Todd:
You rea
The only way to guage whether the steam flow is adequate is at the outlet of
the chimney, NOT at the
end of a 10 foot hose that has condensation going on inside it. That
condensation will REDUCE the
steam volumn and therefore the flow rate of what steam makes it out to the end
of the hose.
I
EE:
Yes, you're on the right track... see my posting at 6/21 at 9:04pm.
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg48242.html
I would bet that Galantini is making an indirect measurement of the liquid
water content as
explained in my posting.
-Mark
_
From: aieie brazof [mailto
Todd:
You really shold take some time and fully verify your facts before accusing
someone of fraud...
I believe that the e-Cat Krivit saw was only 2.5kW, not 10.
-Mark
_
From: t...@wonksmedia.com [mailto:t...@wonksmedia.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:55 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.c
Now, I'm going to take a que from Horace (where are you Horace?), and do some
basic algebra...
Those who have been beating the measurement issue beyond dead-horse status do
remember what algebra
is
Water in = Water out (water in whatever form)
For the e-Cat demos/tests, we have:
Liquid_
ABD wrote:
"By the way, I think I erred when I reported the "operating range" as up to 85%
RH,
non-condensation. That was referring to the unit itself, not to the probe."
That is correct. All instruments that I've ever dealt with, be it $100K
microwave analyzers to
simply DMMs and temperature
ABD wrote:
"Rossi held up the hose, Krivit had also mentioned this. He didn't want to
allow this to continue,
he said it was dangerous. Really? How?"
I think its quite obvious and simple...
If enough water accumulates in the hose, and liquid water has significant mass,
then it will act
like a
>From my time as a grad student at a place that did atmospheric research, and
>my research advisor
being an expert on cloud physics...
1) water vapor is invisible, and when its mixed with air (N and O), it LESS
DENSE than dry air, thus
it rises. i.e., water evaporating off a lake is invisible
Just to clarify Terry's statement:
LIQUID or SOLID water is heavier than air...
Moist AIR is LESS DENSE than dry air! So water vapor is LESS DENSE than air...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 5:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskim
Did any attendees that are on this list see Dr. Duncan there?
Also, is he aware of the e-Cat?
I can't imagine that he isn't, but I don't think I've read any posts that
indicate he is...
Same question as to Dr. Bushnell from NASA... Was he there?
Garwin was probably there, but in drag... :-)
Rossi said:
"We have 300 reactors in operation now in our factory, and we are making
exponential progress day by
day."
How do you say, "damage control", in Italian? :-)
I just wanted to clarify one thing which was confusing to me... there are two
factories that are
being mentioned at this stag
>Then earlier assertions that the steam was totally dry
>must have been ... I hate to use the word ... lies.
Not necessarily... More than likely the % of water in the steam varied
depending on the power level
they were running the reactor at. Still, I think they are trying to save some
face a
en put to
bed. Did I miss something?
Fran
-Original Message-
From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:39 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Steve Krivit's initiative
On 2011-06-17 16:22, Mark Iverson wrote:
> That
That's ridiculous... I highly doubt that Krivit did anything like that... What
is more likely is
that Levi misunderstood something that Krivit said due to the language barrier.
Steve mentioned in
his report that he felt Levi had trouble understanding some elements of what he
was saying.
Interes
s why Mill's has remained silent to
buy himself a little
more time but it really doesn't matter now - this bus is leaving the station!
Regards
Fran
-----Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:34 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Whether by plan or chance, Greece was handed a major piece of leverage when
they desperately needed
it.
You can bet they are going to milk Defkalion for as much as they can get away
with... It's the way
the game is played.
My bet is that Greece was able to convince its creditors (banks thruout E
So the $64M question is...
"What are the conditions that make it favor the QM-tunneling mechanism as
opposed to the
traditional chemical processes"
-Mark
_
From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 3:30 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.c
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-06-chemical-reactions.html
This might explain what's going on in LENR systems... with emphasis on these 3
statements:
"... the observed product of the reaction, acetaldehyde, is the least likely
outcome among
conceivable possibilities."
"...Tunneling c
Yep, it doesn't matter much their party affiliation... The majority of them are
their to feather
their own nest and play their political games to see who gets to control the
ball this term... And
all else is secondary.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail
An interesting posting on the yahoo H-Ni_Fusion group about rechargeable
battery probs:
==
After fully charging some Ni battery types, the cell starts to heat and then
goes into thermal
runaway, meltdown and fires.
Are there any papers (published or unpublished) on the isotopic
In the comments section of the webpage,
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-06-quantum-physics-photons-two-slit-interferometer.html
is this comment by 'hush1'...
"The translation for 'Verschränkung' was erroneously translated as
'entanglement' by Erwin.
The correct translation i
Some important tidbits from the interview...
"In Addition, the theoretical analysis on the process of cold fusion indicates
high values of the
probability of fusion between deuterons within a micro-crack at room
temperature and with impure
metals."
"The main point of my argumentation is: since
Alan:
According to Rossi, a reactor has been running for 2 YEARS in a warehouse in
Italy...
It's only the recent demos/tests that have run for 18 hours or less, and those
were shut down
intentionally.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]
Sent: Wednesda
So you are postulating that:
"What mainstream calls a magnetic field is really a 'relativistically
distorted electric field'."
Okay, that's a good start...
But then you say,
"...ignoring the fact that I have already essentially proven that magnetic
fields are
non-existant..."
I'm afraid that
John:
I think you will find that many regular contributors on this list are of the
same mind, in that they
consider as a real possibility the existence of some kind of aether. There are
numerous alternative
aether-based hypotheses, but the mainstream scientific community doesn't have
much inter
Jones said:
"Maybe I can make this clearer with a bit more contemplation ..."
Contemplation and a Brain Enhancing ElixiR should do the trick!
Or is it too early...
:-)
-Mark
<>
Jones,
I agree that the trial of the scientist is ridiculous, and a disgrace, but its
also an indicator of
how warped the political/legal environment is for italian science.
RE: "...impossible to prediction Eqs with any accuracy..."
I see you haven't read my posting on EQ prediction... 5/26 @ 10:
It is widely known that the 'rod' cells in the retina, which are responsible
for seeing in low light
levels, are more concentrated just outside the center of focus, and the 'cone'
cells primarily
responsible for color vision, are more concentrated in the center of the
retina. Thus, one can
bet
Hmmm, the scope used on the video only has a 60Mhz BW...
I haven't reviewed the schematic so I do not know if that's fast enough to
capture true power in...
-Mark
_
From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:20 AM
To: vortex-l@
The only caveat being that the source is PESN...
Dr. Steven E. Jones demonstrates 8x overunity circuit - Professor Jones has
developed a variation of
the 'Joule Thief' circuit and has shown that its output is eight times greater
than the input as
measured by a state-of-the-art oscilloscope. He
I too was not aware of Ashmore's paper... But it doesn't surprise me at all.
Especially when Woods was 'recruited' by several scientists who obviously
thought it was bogus
science... They got the answer they were expecting.
Further, regarding the polywater debunking...
For those who think that t
tion meant.
At least if you were asking for a philosophical metaphysical answer, your
rejection of Cude's essay
would make sense.
Sent from my iPhone.
On May 27, 2011, at 1:58, "Mark Iverson" wrote:
With all the interaction that JC has had on this discussion group, he should
Don't you get any enjoyment from creative, out-of-the-box thinking?
Do you simply accept hook line and sinker what establishment teaches you?
If that's the case, then what are you doing on vortex? :-)
Most here are quite familiar with 'textbook' physics, and that it is quite a
useful set of rule
With all the interaction that JC has had on this discussion group, he should be
well aware that most
contributors on this list are probably at least as knowledgeable as he, and
probably much more so.
His statement about "the language of physics is math" is obvious. And CH's
suspicions are wrong.
As far as atmospheric heating, I can't say... as far as geomagnetic
disturbances prior to EQs, I
think its VERY likely!
This is based on the following first hand observations...
I have a close friend who spent 30 years in electrical engineering, and 20 of
that was making all
kinds of very sop
harges create it, and
only moving charges can feel it as an electric field at 90 degrees and in a
direction dependent of
their sign.
This is as far as I am aware considered conventional and accepted.
John, an INTJ (I feel this post should be proof read, but I can't be bothered :)
On Thu,
Robin beat me to the punch... I was changing spark-plugs and serpentine belts
on my car!
Robin hits the nail on the head... Anything mathematical is the MODEL, and is
supposed to reflect
physical reality. My question was about the physical world -- what I was
asking got was a rational,
qualita
ields perpendicular?
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Mark Iverson wrote:
> I think any theory should have to explain the simple observations
> first before delving down into more difficult and esoteric aspects of physics.
You sound more like a philosopher now. I know it's cliché but, the mo
You're right Terry, I don't like your answer!
And I don't think any of the other explanations answered the question
adequately...
>From my purely physical model, it would be a natural cause-effect relationship
>due to a polarizable
vacuum... i.e., the electric and magnetic fields of mainstream
Just wanted to throw out a question to the Vort Collective...
In an EM wave, why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular to each
other?
-Mark
I kind of just let my mouse wander where it may and I seem to come upon some
interesting materials
that might be of interest to those more theoretically inclined... I'd like to
think that the
universal potentate might be guiding my mouse at times! :-)
I usually try to read the papers in order
any
> exponential die-off, resulting in nuclear contact and some sort of p+p
> reaction.
>
> Multisite coherence forbids emission of short wave quanta, so normal n,p,
> gamma
> channels are forbidden.
>
> See http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0703715 for the details.
>
&g
: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: arXiv paper: Enhanced low energy fusion rate in palladium...
I beleive that this reference is the same as in my post "the dipole constrant"
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mark Iverson wrote:
FYI:
"Enhanced low energy fusion rate in palladiu
FYI:
"Enhanced low energy fusion rate in palladium (Pd) due to vibrational deuteron
dipole-dipole
interactions and associated resonant tunneling that over-cancels the Jastrow
factor between deuteron
pair wavefunctions"
Abstract
We show that interstitial hydrogen nucleii on a metallic lattice
Hank Mills of PESN states:
"Another rumor on Vortex-L indicates that the Swedish scientists (one of which
was the former
president of the Swedish Skeptics Society) who tested the E-Cat earlier in the
year, have submitted
a paper about an additional test of the E-Cat to a peer reviewed journal."
Agree with Jones' statement that greed can be good for society when there's a
level playing field,
and I wouldn't doubt if that's part of the impetus for this quote:
"Without morality in our actions, there is no hope for mankind."
A.Einstein
Unfortunately, the motivation to gain some kind
rket with his CIHT
technology.
His theory is OK, verified by experiment. Technology is more difficult than
scientific experiments.
Peter
<http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/04/questions-preparing-swot-analysis-of-ni.html>
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Mark Iverson wrote:
I would
I would wager that the reason Mills hasn't got a commercial device, after 20
years and $60M, is
because his theory is flawed...
-Mark
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From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:46 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi be
"Not Impossible" = Highly unlikely...
-Mark
_
From: Andrea Selva [mailto:andreagiuseppe.se...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:24 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: MAJOR eCat plans : 1MW USA Customer ?
1. Will there be two 1MW stations in november, 1 in greece
I'm no legal expert, but have had a fair amt of experience with patents and
patent attorneys... and
am on several myself.
The 'Claims' primarily define what's enforceable... i.e., they form the legal
basis for an
infringement case.
The 'ancillary text' serves several purposes, and is to some ex
Abd wrote:
"Well, if it were that easy to make neutrons, we'd be making them all the time."
Perhaps not... Spectroscopy is everywhere and its only specific wavelengths of
light that are
absorbed/emitted. What if the conditions in the lattice are such that there's
a harmonic
relationship between
It wouldn't doubt it if Rossi has been working tirelessly, 16 hour days or
more, for 6 months
straight or longer... is there any doubt that he might tend to make more than
the usual number of
errors in his recollections, and mistakes when writing/reviewing patents and
such.
Don't know about th
Perhaps some more pieces to the puzzle...
1) There was a recent article (within last 2 months) in PhysOrg that had to do
with how angular
momentum (rotational energy) was converted into other forms of E.
2) Doppler effect found even at molecular level (PhysOrg, May 11, 2011).
-Mark
-Ori
This just in...
Scientists surprised by solar wind data retrieved from Genesis mission
May 10, 2011
Amina Khan, Los Angeles Times
But much of the collected material did survive the crash, and it's now turning
up surprises:
unexpected discrepancies between the composition of the sun and that
This from Bloomerg...
"European Union officials may require Greece to provide collateral for aid as
policy makers struggle
to prevent the euro area's first sovereign debt restructuring, said a person
with direct knowledge
of the situation."In other words, for the first time since Weimar, a coun
but requiring facts/empirical data, not anecdotal 'evidence'.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:18 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:RE: Supersizing the BJT
-Original Message-
From:
Sweet Dreams... Of E-Cats jumping over band-gaps!
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 8:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The UIBM has granted Rossi's patent
Oh, heck, the ECat is probably a measurement err
Several thoughts:
1) If there are ANY dielectrics in the path from one heater to the other, then
this is a NO GO since
one would need a low resistance path.
2) That would require a low resistance (a few ohms at MOST, if not less) path
thru whatever the
electric current is traversing... What's t
Jones:
If I might provide some additional thoughts/analysis...
1) The only way the resistance heaters can 'heat' is if there's a low
resistance path thru the
heating element (i.e., a large current flow). If that's the case, then I doubt
you could generate
any significant voltage potential betw
Good find Terry!
As I said in previous posting, the Greek govt is facing major financial
problems and internal
unrest, and given the fact that they may be in posession of the golden
egg-laying goose, are going
to exploit that opportunity to its fullest. I don't think this latest move is a
coinc
Greece (the government) is in a real financial mess, so there is tremendous
pressure to stimulate
their economy and get tax revenues up. They've just been handed a goose laying
golden eggs...
They'd be complete idiots to kill and eat the goose... But governments have
done stranger things!
-Mar
Yes, I caught that too...
Here is the end of the band heater leads for the middle reactor...
You can clearly see two (dirty-whitish) wires exiting the braided steel sheath.
-Mark
<>
Do we have a shot of the oscilloscope screen during pre-ignition phase and
steady-state phase?
I remember stopping the video on the scope screen, and trying to read the
timebase, but no go...
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, May
Terry/Steven,
Excellent out of the box thinking!
So we've got a little particle accelerator inside this thing as well! We not
going to let the H
slowly migrate its way in, we're going to smash it in! I.e., we're too
impatient to just let
electrochemistry take its course or wait for adsorption t
I don't understand the concern about refueling... The process is really simple.
You only startup 25 units per day... So it takes 12 days to get the entire 300
units up and running.
When it comes time to do the 6 months refueling, you only refuel 25 per day and
the reserve units
are more than eno
he other
> 4-5 ... good thing
> we have Sam Adams ...
>
> ... not that you asked for another fringe opinion.
>
> And BTW I gave up beer about the time Rossi got out of the hoosegow ...
>
> Jones
>
>
> From: Mark Iverson
>
> Jed wrote:
> "W
Jed wrote:
"Whatever else Rossi may be, and whatever it is he is drinking (or smoking), he
is the most
interesting man in the world."
I thought the guy on the Dos Equis commercial was the most interesting man in
the world...
He's not going to be happy about being #2!
Stay Thirsty My Friends?
Assuming some E-Cats are reserved for changeout, that means ~7KW/E-Cat
(1MW/140).
Does this mean that he is NOT satisfied with the kitty-cat (2.5KW), and it
going back to a slightly
larger reactor? Or has he been able to push the output up higher? Or a bit of
both?
-Mark
-Original Mes
y, or the incredible good luck, of the lone inventor - but they will
not "lose the recipe."
Jones
-Original Message-
From: Mark Iverson
I said:
"Perhaps its because Rossi hadn't given them the proper recipe for making the
TE devices?"
Let me explain a bit more...
I said:
"Perhaps its because Rossi hadn't given them the proper recipe for making the
TE devices?"
Let me explain a bit more...
I've been following (and occasionally helping) with a colleague's company that
has carbon-based
photovoltaic cells that are consistently getting 40% more power than Sh
Jones writes:
"Here is a sanitized version of the story cleansed by LTI, but the true grit is
worse than this
sounds. Bottom of Page 5 is where it gets interesting:"
http://dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/Thermo%282004%29.pdf
Frankly, I'd prefer to read the unsanitized 'true grit'! Its
Sturrock said:
"If the mystery particle is not a neutrino, "It would have to be something we
don't know about, an
unknown particle that is also emitted by the sun and has this effect, and that
would be even more
remarkable,"
And this article from a few weeks ago... which was mentioned on Vortex
Wm:
Agreed! I think its all about resonances and harmonics...
You might want to read my following postings:
2/26/2011
"Interesting article: exchange of single quantum between two ions... its all
about resonance."
2/11
"flies in Ockham's face... "
2/12
"RE: flies in Ockham's face..."
Nearl
Jed wrote:
"The name is not important."
Its not important to you and some others perhaps, but not to the physicists...
ya know, the guys you
are trying to 'convince'
I asked a friend who is a physics prof at the local University the following
questions:
1) Do you consider neutron capture
Robin,
I respectfully disagree...
I think the 'norm' is that the different forces do NOT interact, unless under
extreme or unusual or
specific conditions. I.e., for chemistry (electron-level interactions) and
nuclear interactions,
the ZPE is pretty much a non-player.
But then, wasn't it Puthof
s looking like Mills’ stallion is
>pulling way ahead at
>the first turn. Too bad he did not patent the gas-phase approach, or did he? I
>spent hours checking
>and found nothing that would help Mills to prevail - even if Rossi is using
>“his” reaction. You
>cannot patent a theory. Bu
Jones:
Sorry of this is obvious, but…
On page 8 of the consolidated report (2nd page of Bianchini's report) he shows
that the neutron
detector was positioned on the horizontal axis of the main tube… and it did
take data before, during
and after 'ignition'. I take it the neutron detector would n
Yes, Piantelli's patent is certainly more "enabling" than Rossi's...
I think the most interesting statement in the patent excerpt is:
"...heating is needed to cause lattice vibrations, i.e. phonons, whose energy
is higher than a first
activation energy threshold, through non-linear and an harmon
[mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 1:19 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Can there be some D2 in the H2?
Mark Iverson wrote:
Can't remember if this has ever been discussed...
Is the (industrial-grade?) hydrogen gas pure, or is there some D2 in it?
There is alway
@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Can there be some D2 in the H2?
Mark Iverson wrote:
Can't remember if this has ever been discussed...
Is the (industrial-grade?) hydrogen gas pure, or is there some D2 in it?
There is always the natural abundance of D2 in ordinary H2. It is 1 part in
5,400 acco
Can't remember if this has ever been discussed...
Is the (industrial-grade?) hydrogen gas pure, or is there some D2 in it?
If so, and its the D2 that is participating in the reaction, then wouldn't that
affect the expected
reaction products and isotope ratios?
-Mark
A revealing comment from one scientist to another...
"I have quite a few seismologist friends in Europe attempting to develop a
EuroArray, one of whom
said, 'Well, it looks like you have a machine producing Nature and Science
papers.'
-Mark
FYI:
Here's an article for all you theorists...
"Scientists suggest spacetime has no time dimension"
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-04-scientists-spacetime-dimension.html
-Mark
old Fusion or Low Energy Nuclear Reactions
Fact vs Fiction -- Reality vs Perception
-Mark
_
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:42 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Comic gets it right
Mark Iverson wrote:
Have t
Have to disagree with Jed's conclusions as to the extreme level of opposition
that this will face...
I don't think there is any situation in the history of modern economics that
can compare with what
is happening...
Sure, there are powerful centers that don't want to see this technology make
All:
Now that the emotional vortex has subsided... Funny, so have the atmospheric
vortices in the
southeast USA! Nah... No possible connection there... Right?
I share Jones' frustration in that here we have what is very likely a valid new
discovery that we've
ALL been waiting for, for decades,
take
credit for, but
which seems accurate): that wet steam gives the appearance of triple or more -
the actual thermal
content of dry steam, is in fact the case here.
Again - before the flood of denials, character assassination and finger
pointing - let's wait a
couple of days for the
The marketing for the entire line of e-Cats will be Halley Berry dressed up in
black skin tight
leather as Cat-woman... "Hear me roar!" And e-Cats of various sizes will be
purring along all
around her.
:-)
-Mark
So Rossi has gone from:
50 modules of 20 kW each
130 " 10 kW units
300 "3 kW each
or more poetically stated, from bobcat, to tom-cat, to kitty-cat! :-)
So Steven Vincent Johnson's comment may prove insightful:
"However, there is
al is in .docx format.
If anyone wants a
copy let me know.
Question for Mark Iverson:
Do you recall the source of this claim? Date? Anything specific about the type
of particles?
"The device produces 100 keV and 300 keV particles. (Rossi? Iverson reports)"
- Jed
Jones writes:
"it was claiming that there was neither room nor extra mass for fins or
channels. I listed that as
the caveat. Rossi also says the water flow is straight thru."
Ever look at how a steam locomotive boiler is constructed? The flow is
straight thru and the heat
xfer surface area is
Giving points made by Jed, Jones and (Steven) Johnson validity, and the fact
that Rossi admits to
not being a genius but requests people give him some credit for being
reasonably bright and
competent, I would bet that the heat xfer issue was something that needed to be
solved long ago and
has be
Could the magnetic field generated by the resistive heaters be inducing some
other effects that help
promote the reaction, or inductively heat the Nickel???
-Mark
I think the wiki needs a REALLY BIG BANNER at the top explaining that nickel
powder is toxic and
hydrogen gas is highly combustible...
-Mark
_
From: Esa Ruoho [mailto:esaru...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:35 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A wiki for compiling
RE: Yves Rossy, the Jet Man.
Of all the people that would have the exact same date of birth, it had to be
someone like him.
-Mark
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:39 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Clear, odorless, water-base
ith the CEO
of the Greek company .
in which he indicated that a goodly portion of the $100 million has already
been released. Did
anyone else catch this interview?
Jones
From: Mark Iverson
Items 5 and 7 are not fitting with the details that Rossi has stated, which is
that he ONLY
Items 5 and 7 are not fitting with the details that Rossi has stated, which is
that he ONLY receives
money when the plant is producing energy... so there is no "up-front cash".
Don't think that the
scenario is consistent with first-hand information...
5)At this time, Rossi is already ar
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