Re: [AsburyPark] Chant Food Pantry
Ms. Denson, I know people who are familiar with you and the services you give to the community. I, for one, know that. When Asbury Park Candidates for Office were having the forums at Mt. Carmel Catholic and Asbury Park Middle Schools, I saw you videotaping these events and we spoke. I also saw RadioAsbury.com, 88.1, also there. What I'll do is print this email and give it to the President of my Auxiliary. My Post and Auxiliary, give 50 Thanksgiving baskets each year and my daughter and I give two, 1 each to a family at the Little People At Work, Pre-School. I will ask the Auxiliary, to either bring food in, or give cash ,so that food can be replenished, at the The Chant Food Pantry and any posters out there, can contact you to help also. What you could do, is make a flyer and get it out to the local businesses here, or contact them and ask if they'd be willing to place a box, at their front door, asking for contributions. Sad huh, what a catastrophe brings on other communities. Didn't know that Asbury Park, Neptune and low-income people, were affected here. I humbly apologize for anything I said, adverse to the wonderful job you do in this area. I know also, that Red Bank, had a program called Lunch Break and St. Augustine's Episcopal Church, on Prosepect Ave. Has their Feeding Program for the homeless and Trinity Church, in Asbury Park,also has a food program, too. Have they been affected by Katrina/Rita? Now, Florida is preparing for Wilma! What's next? Does any other churches in this area have similar programs? If so, can I get a list of them? Email me off group and I'll see what I can do. SharonSharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--kyangazidenson[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sharon, I completely understand your frustrations with this group, but perhaps you can view us like i do, i am sooo busy these days with being care giver to my senior mom and handicap brother that I welcome any news of what's going on in the lives of others, sort of like, if you're with 2 year olds 24/7 that any adult conversations are a blessing, lol. lighten up dear heart and go with the flow, we all mean well, i think, lol, or better yet, when i lived in nyc, i'd rather say, some of us fly further than fire island, and/or,its a small world after all, never know who knows who when you're doing whatever you do, where ever you do what you do. and its not what you know, but what you know about whom that counts most. as for my little charity, please help by volunteerring your time, and or donations, people (children, seniors, etc)are sufferring and Mercy Center, like Chant ran out of food before the month's end too. why do you think they have fund raisers. spread the word, how ever you can, even on a yahoo group, email list etc., CHANT's motto is, "hunger does not take a vacation." and i hope you read the article in the app and coaster, this is no joke, good nutrition is good for life. Kean maybe the cause ofmany people being without a pay checkto spend in asbury park when he closed Tom Smith's office in Asbury, that's why there is a CHANTfood pantry, Tom Smith helped to build it. Smith even helped me get my show on cable in 1992 when he presented the cable company with the FCC rules and regulations to train his residents to be Producers of their own show. He also got memy notary stamp too. to badSmith was a Lincoln republican, but at least they named a building after him, even if he was the first and only black assemblyman in the history of monmouth county. yet he made his mark to helppromote many blacks, likejudges, policeman, broadcasters, etc., but when it came to politics,Smith couldn't do anything to help Mr Fashion get his job because "the 11th district wasn't designed to be a life long position for black candidates" according to Bill Dow on the day Kean was selected. I put it on my show and you know what happened toBill Dowand his job, he was challenged and lost to a kean supporter. and there goes the Smith office to Wall, the beginning. I got to document all eventsand Idonating my skillsbecause ofknowing Tom Smith. I hope I do him proud, perhaps if I become the Oprah of NJ, money wise, he'd rise from the grave smiling saying, did I do That? Yes, Mr Smith, there is a money tree in asbury park for me too, a democratic humanitarian black cherokee asbury park woman. talk about a wammie of tokens all wrapped up into one, lol nice chatting with you Shangazi"Sharon G. Boone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You missed my point entirely! I am NOT against this Charity AT ALL! There are a lot of people in this group involved in one charity or another! So you're older than me! I knew that! You know me but not by name or I have a forgettable face! One of the terms of this group is non-solicitation, which means, no spamming or petitoning for anything! This group is about everything, Asbury Park! Go to the group site and read! Better still, send a press release to the Coaster, or heaven forbid, the Press. Ma'm the M
Re: [AsburyPark] C-8 Demolition Question, today's paper
To the Fish: No, it shows a vigilant, alert, smart, if nothing else, citizenry, that is watching to see if all the I's are dotted and the T's crossed! So should one of our citizens being called out for being on point? Just goes to show that if we aren't vigilant, we get the redevelopment, we deserve. I certainly know NOTHING, shy of a minus sign about what exactly, Asbury Park wanted. I can't fault Terry, for a plan, Weldon had in place, when he was hired. Can't say if he asked whether the Plan needed going over, or if Aaron, the attorney, consulted with him on exactly what the deal was. Giving Mr. Reidy a bye, on that one, however, isn't that what we HAVE Aaron for, or is it another attorney's responsibility to bring the new City Manager up to stuff on where the City was at the point Mr. Reidy was brought in. Remember, Wilbert Russell, died, while on the job, so it was incumbent upon SOMEBODY, to bring the new hire IN on exactly what the deal was, knowing Asbury residents. There are some really smart, savvy, residents here who SHOULD be on the Committee but are unfortunately, NOT! Who may I ask is responsible? The Redevelopment Attorney, who is PAID to act on OUR behalf? The City Clerk? The Council, Tax Assessor, WHO? I am not an OWL, but WHO, dammit! Everyone mentioned is a hired HACK, except the Council, who is elected by the people. So YOU elected this council, now, DEAL with them! You GET who you elect! I can't understand why everyone is bent out of shape with the council. Not being fecetious, either! These are the people you elected! The elections are over, not everyone I voted for, got in, but I'm willing to work with what we have, as long as what they do, is legal! Plain and simple! What you think of them personally, does not add up to a hill of beans! As long as I'm treated respectfully, as a resident, a voter and a citizen, of the United States, I don't give a rat's you know what! Please, can't we all just get along? SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: This article gives averysimple version of what happened at that meeting. Dan Sciannameo did a great job explaining why the June 5, 2002 Plan should be followed. At the meeting Councilmen Johnson, Keady,and Lofferdo seem to be very concern. Does anybody even care if C-8 is rebuilt or should the new buildings on that blockconforms with the June 5, 2002 Plan. ERROR: Found in unapproved, revised waterfront plans CITY OFFICIAL: Mistake won't derail redevelopment Asbury: Developer sent wrong plans to DEP Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 10/21/05BY NANCY SHIELDSCOASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU ASBURY PARK â The city is correcting a mistake made by the waterfront developer's planner that allowed the wrong version of the 2002 waterfront plan to be sent to the state for the Department of Environmental Protection's approval.City Manager Terence Reidy said an analysis of the plan approved June 5, 2002, by the City Council and a different version that had been disseminated to the public and the state showed that differences between the two plans did not affect the state's analysis before they issued the Coastal Area Facility Review Act permit in March 2004.Officials say that Asbury Partners' planner, Clark Caton Hintz, came in with a different version at the last minute when the council approved the plan on June 5, 2002. But the city's redevelopment attorney, James Aaron, did not allow the council to act on it because the plan with the changes had not been through the Planning Board.The planner made the mistake by later releasing the wrong version for the city and public's use and also attached that version to the CAFRA application."You're not going to get away with this," said Daniel F. Sciannameo, a New York City appraiser who owns a home in the city, when he spoke at a City Council meeting Wednesday night. "I'm the one who blew the whistle on you and asked the DEP to shut you down. You're working with an illegal CAFRA permit.""Mr. Sciannameo, I know you are the one who called. . . . You uncovered it," Reidy told Sciannameo later in the meeting.The city met with the DEP on Wednesday and is to send a letter to make a modification that could take about two months to complete, Reidy said. Construction on waterfront projects already under way can continue in the meantime, although any new construction will have to wait.The mistake came to light after one of the beachfront builders, Metro Homes of Hoboken, learned it could not use the abandoned 1989 condominium steel skeleton between Third and Fourth avenues known as C-8 on planning maps because the pilings could not be certified as safe.The waterfront plan the city says it approved would allow Metro Homes to build its planned 224-unit Esperanza to the same 16-story height of C-8. The plan that Hintz distributed and sent to the DEP said that if C-8 came down, the height of its replacement was limited to eight stories.The city did not have its own in-house planner at the time the mistake
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
Dear Bear: This is an Asbury Park Group. We are Democrat, Republican and Other. Who is paying you to dish the dirt, you think you have, on the Democrats? Remember, "Nobody died, when Clinton lied"! Under Clinton, the Country had a LARGE Surplus, that your boy, Dubya, SQUANDERED! Bush gives tax breaks, ONLY, to the Rich and NOT the poor, who he lies to, daily. There were NO WMD's! No Reason to Invade another country, torture its' citizens, rob it of its' antiquities and TAKE it's GOLD BULLION! Who has that? CHENEY? We are near 2000 Deaths, thousands of casualties, lost limbs and ENDLESS War! There are NO Kids of these DESK-HAWKS, Flag Lapel Pin Wearers, Over There! THEY, including, AWOL BUSh, EX-ALCOHOLIC, DRUG ABUSER, TEMPER-TANTRUM Having, Spoiled Frat-Boy, President, NEVER SERVED! His House of Cards, is about to fall after Outing a known CIA-Undercover Agent. It's a Federal Offense, YOU! Ditto, on Tom Delay and Bill Frist, those bastions of honesty! So why are YOU here? SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At least Bush stays focused on his job rather than a previous president. Democrats are upset because someone in that office is actually getting things accomplished..I am not necessarly a republican but I sure would have a hard time voting in a democrat at this point anyway, they don't have a clue. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
NEW JERSEY hasn't lost a thing!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:That makes sense, blame a natural disaster on a Republican.BUT if I caused this group to go off topic, I am sorry.I used to live in Asbury and moved to FLorida 10 years ago because I could not take it anymore. I joined this group because I heard Asbury was coming back and was happy for it..WOWWhat a mess the town is still in, somehow though I am not surprised.Good luck, ya'all need it YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
No, YOU vote for Forrester, he'll NEED your vote and his! That equals 2!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: hell yeah...Bush has done a great job despite the effort ofliberal scum; while you're at it vote forrester and not the scum corzine-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:08:35 EDTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIGHT Vote republican and get some more in like bush.HELL NO YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
3 Votes, for Forrester! YEA!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: hey flighty, There is plenty of blame to share in Katrina and not just at the federal level; first and foremost is the lcoal level;New Orleans has traditionally been one of the mostcorrupt cities in the nation; theywere to be the first responders and they did not have a clue as to what to do; next the state of LA alsof***ed it up and certainly the feds screwed things up as wellenough blame to go around it would be naive and simplistic on your part flighty to blame it all on Bush; typical liberal boob-Original Message-From: Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:01:52 -0400Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIGHT On 10/21/05 1:47 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least Bush stays focused on his job rather than a previous president. Democrats are upset because someone in that office is actually getting things accomplished..Other than a myriad of scandals, what has this administration gotten accomplished?If you want to see just how badly the job they?ve done is, just read the Senate hearings on the Hurricane Katrina situation and response. It is amazing how poorly they reacted. The media did not blow it out of proportion; when you see what the official reports are you realize the media DOWNPLAYED the lack of response. Personally, I can?t decide which is more interesting... The leak on The West Wing or the one playing out in real life. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
Dear Bear: You're a fine human being! Sad-DAM, BADD! We agree on one thing. Saddam is a Bad Man! No matter! YOU STARTED THIS! May You BURN, ALSO! ou come in here uninvited and start a political diatribe of no consequence, or of interest to Me, at least! If you think we're in bad shape here, stay your behind in Florida and I hope WIL-MAAA BLOWS you out to sea! Go hang out in a Repug, neo-con group!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear Sharon, I would like you to go on record RIGHT NOW and post that Saddam Hussein was a fine human being...Go ahead say ityou imbecile...Tell this board that Saddam was an angel...may you burn in hell!-Original Message-From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:41:49 GMTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT Dear Bear: This is an Asbury Park Group. We are Democrat, Republican and Other. Who is paying you to dish the dirt, you think you have, on the Democrats? Remember, "Nobody died, when Clinton lied"! Under Clinton, the Country had a LARGE Surplus, that your boy, Dubya, SQUANDERED! Bush gives tax breaks, ONLY, to the Rich and NOT the poor, who he lies to, daily. There were NO WMD's! No Reason to Invade another country, torture its' citizens, rob it of its' antiquities and TAKE it's GOLD BULLION! Who has that? CHENEY? We are near 2000 Deaths, thousands of casualties, lost limbs and ENDLESS War! There are NO Kids of these DESK-HAWKS, Flag Lapel Pin Wearers, Over There! THEY, including, AWOL BUSh, EX-ALCOHOLIC, DRUG ABUSER, TEMPER-TANTRUM Having, Spoiled Frat-Boy, President, NEVER SERVED! His House of Cards, is about to fall after Outing a known CIA-Undercover Agent. It's a Federal Offense, YOU! Ditto, on Tom Delay and Bill Frist, those bastions of honesty! So why are YOU here? SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At least Bush stays focused on his job rather than a previous president. Democrats are upset because someone in that office is actually getting things accomplished..I am not necessarly a republican but I sure would have a hard time voting in a democrat at this point anyway, they don't have a clue. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
Skip: He needs LITHIUM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: skippy I suppose you think Saddam is an angel as well. Surprising given the amount of Republican support to Israel against the threat of Arab domination in the region.-Original Message-From: Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:16:12 -Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT "Go ahead say it you imbecile...Tell this board that Saddam was an angel...may you burn in hell!" Is there a doctor in the house? If ever a member of this forum needed help this has got to be the time. Makes me long for the day when a purported lawyer merely wanted to race Monster Trucks on the boardwalk. Where in hell did we get this character? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sharon, I would like you to go on record RIGHT NOW and post that Saddam Hussein was a fine human being...Go ahead say it you imbecile...Tell this board that Saddam was an angel...may you burn in hell! -Original Message----- From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:41:49 GMT Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT Dear Bear: This is an Asbury Park Group. We are Democrat, Republican and Other. Who is paying you to dish the dirt, you think you have, on the Democrats? Remember, "Nobody died, when Clinton lied"! Under Clinton, the Country had a LARGE Surplus, that your boy, Dubya, SQUANDERED! Bush gives tax breaks, ONLY, to the Rich and NOT the poor, who he lies to, daily. There were NO WMD's! No Reason to Invade another country, torture its' citizens, rob it of its' antiquities and TAKE it's GOLD BULLION! Who has that? CHENEY? We are near 2000 Deaths, thousands of casualties, lost limbs and ENDLESS War! There are NO Kids of these DESK-HAWKS, Flag Lapel Pin Wearers, Over There! THEY, including, AWOL BUSh, EX-ALCOHOLIC, DRUG ABUSER, TEMPER-TANTRUM Having, Spoiled Frat-Boy, President, NEVER SERVED! His House of Cards, is about to fall after Outing a known CIA-Undercover Agent. It's a Federal Offense, YOU! Ditto, on Tom Delay and Bill Frist, those bastions of honesty! So why are YOU here? Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least Bush stays focused on his job rather than a previous president. Democrats are upset because someone in that office is actually getting things accomplished.. I am not necessarly a republican but I sure would have a hard time voting in a democrat at this point anyway, they don't have a clue. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- FONT COLOR="#99"Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page /FONTA HREF=""http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM" target=_blank>http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM"BClick Here!/B/A ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
No thanks, I'll take a Coke with that Chicken, okay? 3 For Forrester!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sharon, Since the blacks so mindlessly follow the dems, perhaps we'll feed em grape soda and fried chicken to stay home; usually the dems feed em hot dogs and grape soda to come out andvote-Original Message-From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:00:02 GMTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT No, YOU vote for Forrester, he'll NEED your vote and his! That equals 2!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: hell yeah...Bush has done a great job despite the effort ofliberal scum; while you're at it vote forrester and not the scum corzine-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:08:35 EDTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIGHT Vote republican and get some more in like bush.HELL NO YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Whose Property is it??
Amy, Beautifully said. I am only versed in Business and Tort Law. Would have to borrow a Property Law book from one of my Attorney friends who deal in that type of thing. I only know Contracts and things of that nature, but you have put this subject so simply, even I can understand it. I don't purport to know everything and I'm learning from people like you. Thanks!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--AmyQuinn[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Werner,Ihavebeenreadingyourpostsnowformonths.Ican'thelpbutgetoffendedwhenyouimply,andnotsubtly,everyoneisanidiotbutyou.IhavereadyourpostsandheardyouspeakandwhileIthinkyouarebrilliantonmanyissuesemotionalgrowth,Iimagine,isnotoneofthem.Youcanexplaintheissueinsimplistictermswithoutimplyingpeoplearestupidfornotunderstandingit.Iwasatthecouncilmeetingandwhileyouhadthelast4yearstoattendeverymeetingandcommitteethattookplaceinAsburyregardingtheredevelopmentmanyofuswereworkingfulltimeandwereunabletoattend.IwanttomentionthatPropertyLawisacomplexissue.Itookmanyclassesinitatlawschoolanditcontinuestobefuddleme.Anditisnotonlyme.PropertyLawquestionsaskedonthebarexaminallthestatesarethelowestscoredquestions.Therearesixsubjectaskedforthebar;torts,constitutionallaw,property,criminallaw,contracts,evidence.Propertylawquestionsarealwaysthequestionsthatmostpeoplegetwrong.Encroachments,adversepossession,easements,easementsbyprescription,eminentdomaineachoneoftheseissuesarecomplexandthenaddingcityordinancetothemmanagestomakethemalittlemoreconfusing.Sowhileyouseemtohaveagrasponitallpleasestopimplyingpeople'sinabilitytofullyunderstandwhatisgoingonareignorant.AmyQuinnSantanderYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
Is your name Bush? Because HE don't read the papers, either! C-Span? CNN? FOX, even? They've ALL carried the story of who REALLY is at fault! Just today, a revelation came about about your boy, "BROWNIE"! Seems BROWNIE needed extra time to finish his dinner! That was before he was HUMBLED/er,FIRED/er,RESIGNED! Yeah, that's the ticket! Brownie, the Brown-Noser, crony/friend/buddy-boy, GONE!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:The LOCAL goverment failed, they never notified the feds thats what caused part of the delay. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Whose property is it?
Thank you for clarifying that and now, I know what you mean, but does Werner? Just kidding!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"dfsavgny"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:outofAsburyParkandaskaNeptuneRealtoraboutit.Thereisadisclaimer,thatifyoudon'tcitetheencroachment,after10yearstheland,evenifit'sasliver,becomesyours!That'sthecaveat!SowhereisthecodeenforcerorwhoeverisinchargeSharon,youaretalkingaboutAdversePossession,averycomplexlegalissue.Itisnotsoeasyasthatandcourtsrarely,ifever,awardadversepossession.Thereisacriteriatoaccomplishit,whichisdifficult,ifnotimpossible,tomeet.Iwillleaveplanning,etc.toWerner,butheiswrongonthelawandpropertyrights.Wearetalkingaboutpropertyrights,andweareusingtheshorthandofPROPERTY.Wellunderthatdefinition,yeswhateverrights-of-way(ROW)theCitymayhaveoverprivatepropertythoserightscanbeconsideredPUBLICPROPERTY.However,whatIamsayingisthateveryrightinPROPERTY,whenitislessthanfeesimple,isspecificallydelineatedinacontractoragreement.Assumedly,Bradelyorthefounders,whensellingthetractsseitherRESERVEDsomerightsforthepublicinoroverPRIVATEPROPERTYortheCitylateracquiredthoserights.Whateverthecasemaybe,thoserights,nowreferredhereinasPUBLICPROPERTY(morespecifically,publicrightsinprivateproperty)areclearlydelineatedandlimitedinsomedocument(s)oragreement(s).Youhavetoknowwhatthoserights,ortheirlimitationsare.Youjustcan;tsayitispublicpropertyandprivatepropertyownerscannotdoanythingwiththeirownproperty.IfthepublicabridgesorincreasesitsRIGHT(orproperty)inoroverprivateproperty,thenitisatakingandtheConstitutionrequiresjustcompensation.AsIsaidbefore,thePUBLICcanregulatePRIVATEpropertythroughzoning,policepowers,etc.,which,iftheyarenotconsideredconfiscatory,arenottakingsanddonotrequirecompensation.Ifyouwanttoregulatefences,passalawforgodssakes,butdon'ttellmeIdon;towntheproperty.IIdidn't,Iwouldn'tbepayingtaxesonit.Wernerisaswrongaswrongcanbe.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
Do me a favor, GET A LIFE, already!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Oh Sharon you imbecile...you truly are blindif you feel there is no culpability in the corrupt New Orleans local govt and the State of La. There is enough blame to go around; thegovernor Blanco shoudl have asked for troops much sooner; there should have been a shoot to kill orders and a curfew declared gthe night before the storm hit; law and order was quickly restored when the cavalry came in you display the typical victim syndrome as in it's everyone else's fault; the democratic party has done you a great disservice!-Original Message-From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:55:50 GMTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT Is your name Bush? Because HE don't read the papers, either! C-Span? CNN? FOX, even? They've ALL carried the story of who REALLY is at fault! Just today, a revelation came about about your boy, "BROWNIE"! Seems BROWNIE needed extra time to finish his dinner! That was before he was HUMBLED/er,FIRED/er,RESIGNED! Yeah, that's the ticket! Brownie, the Brown-Noser, crony/friend/buddy-boy, GONE!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:The LOCAL goverment failed, they never notified the feds thats what caused part of the delay. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
Roman Catholic, Stupid!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sharon, are you a member of the Nation of Islam?-Original Message-From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:55:50 GMTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT Is your name Bush? Because HE don't read the papers, either! C-Span? CNN? FOX, even? They've ALL carried the story of who REALLY is at fault! Just today, a revelation came about about your boy, "BROWNIE"! Seems BROWNIE needed extra time to finish his dinner! That was before he was HUMBLED/er,FIRED/er,RESIGNED! Yeah, that's the ticket! Brownie, the Brown-Noser, crony/friend/buddy-boy, GONE!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:The LOCAL goverment failed, they never notified the feds thats what caused part of the delay. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
4 For Forrester! Nope, 5 - 5 for Forrester. His Wife! Nice Stepford, type! Whaddya mean am I islamic? What's wrong with Muslims that Bush hasn't already MESSED UP! Muslims don't bother ME, nor do Baptists, Episcopalians, Methodists or Holy Rollers! This Is America, stupid! Freedom or Speech, Religion and _expression_! You need to read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's going to be closer than youthink Sharon. Forrester has pulled to within 5. I do think Corzine will win however because he will buy the blackvote-Original Message-From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:40:00 GMTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT No thanks, I'll take a Coke with that Chicken, okay? 3 For Forrester!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sharon, Since the blacks so mindlessly follow the dems, perhaps we'll feed em grape soda and fried chicken to stay home; usually the dems feed em hot dogs and grape soda to come out andvote-Original Message-From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:00:02 GMTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT No, YOU vote for Forrester, he'll NEED your vote and his! That equals 2!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: hell yeah...Bush has done a great job despite the effort ofliberal scum; while you're at it vote forrester and not the scum corzine-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 12:08:35 EDTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIGHT Vote republican and get some more in like bush.HELL NO YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Whose Property is it??
Werner, Are you Woody Allen? You seem to want to dissect everything and everyone! Like Amy said.Can't you just let it be? You're funny, man! Really!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"wernerapnj"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Amy,Idon'tthinkIknowyou.Haveweevermet,socialized?Thankyouforyourcandor,kindlyallowmethesamelatitude.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,AmyQuinn[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Werner,Ihavebeenreadingyourpostsnowformonths.Ican'thelpbutgetoffendedwhenyouimply,andnotsubtly,everyoneisanidiotbutyou.Yourfeelingsandreactiontomypersonalityareyourstodealwith.Somepeopleclashandsomedon't,that'sjustthewaylifeis.Don'tshootthemessenger.IhavereadyourpostsandheardyouspeakandwhileIthinkyouarebrilliantonmanyissuesemotionalgrowth,Iimagine,isnotoneofthem.Youcanexplaintheissueinsimplistictermswithoutimplyingpeoplearestupidfornotunderstandingit.Thankyouforthecompliment,butyourpsycologicalevaluationofmeisabitprematureaswehavenosocial/interpersonalrelationshipthatIamawareof.Iwasatthecouncilmeetingandwhileyouhadthelast4yearstoattendeverymeetingandcommitteethattookplaceinAsburyregardingtheredevelopmentmanyofuswereworkingfulltimeandwereunabletoattend.Perhapsthenyouwouldviewmyexperianceasaresourceaftergettingoveranyperceivedpersonalityclashes.IwanttomentionthatPropertyLawisacomplexissue.Itookmanyclassesinitatlawschoolanditcontinuestobefuddleme.Anditisnotonlyme.PropertyLawquestionsaskedonthebarexaminallthestatesarethelowestscoredquestions.Therearesixsubjectaskedforthebar;torts,constitutionallaw,property,criminallaw,contracts,evidence.Propertylawquestionsarealwaysthequestionsthatmostpeoplegetwrong.Encroachments,adversepossession,easements,easementsbyprescription,eminentdomaineachoneoftheseissuesarecomplexandthenaddingcityordinancetothemmanagestomakethemalittlemoreconfusing.Well,Nowthatwehaveintroductionsoutoftheway,let'smeetforcoffe/lunch/drinksandgettoworkfiguringoutifprivatepropertyownersshouldbepermittedtouseorbuildonCitypropertyadjacenttotheirs.AgoodHistorianandagoodLawyerisjustwhatAsburyParkneeds.Sowhileyouseemtohaveagrasponitallpleasestopimplyingpeople'sinabilitytofullyunderstandwhatisgoingonareignorant.Willdo,It'sjustthefrustrationofdealingwithadysfunctionalCity.Youmustbenewhere:-)WernerYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
..And all that Background Noise and Chatter! The Domino Theory is about to begin its, descent, as in ALL FALL DOWN!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--blacktip62[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: HAHAHAHAHA ok let's see... there is my man in Tex that just got indicted for money laundering he is Rep.. there is the Vice Pres top aide selling out the CIA he is Rep also right??? there is also that little war in the gulf that Bush started for what reason again??? he gave so many it's hard to follow.ok so Clinton got a BJ in the office... better him getting blown than the whole country getting the shaft[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least Bush stays focused on his job rather than a previous president. Democrats are upset because someone in that office is actually getting things accomplished..I am not necessarly a republican but I sure would have a hard time voting in a democrat at this point anyway, they don't have a clue. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Fw: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
--ForwardedMessage-- Dear Bear: You're a fine human being! Sad-DAM, BADD! We agree on one thing. Saddam is a Bad Man! No matter! YOU STARTED THIS! May You BURN, ALSO! ou come in here uninvited and start a political diatribe of no consequence, or of interest to Me, at least! If you think we're in bad shape here, stay your behind in Florida and I hope WIL-MAAA BLOWS you out to sea! Go hang out in a Repug, neo-con group!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear Sharon, I would like you to go on record RIGHT NOW and post that Saddam Hussein was a fine human being...Go ahead say ityou imbecile...Tell this board that Saddam was an angel...may you burn in hell!-Original Message-From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:41:49 GMTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT Dear Bear: This is an Asbury Park Group. We are Democrat, Republican and Other. Who is paying you to dish the dirt, you think you have, on the Democrats? Remember, "Nobody died, when Clinton lied"! Under Clinton, the Country had a LARGE Surplus, that your boy, Dubya, SQUANDERED! Bush gives tax breaks, ONLY, to the Rich and NOT the poor, who he lies to, daily. There were NO WMD's! No Reason to Invade another country, torture its' citizens, rob it of its' antiquities and TAKE it's GOLD BULLION! Who has that? CHENEY? We are near 2000 Deaths, thousands of casualties, lost limbs and ENDLESS War! There are NO Kids of these DESK-HAWKS, Flag Lapel Pin Wearers, Over There! THEY, including, AWOL BUSh, EX-ALCOHOLIC, DRUG ABUSER, TEMPER-TANTRUM Having, Spoiled Frat-Boy, President, NEVER SERVED! His House of Cards, is about to fall after Outing a known CIA-Undercover Agent. It's a Federal Offense, YOU! Ditto, on Tom Delay and Bill Frist, those bastions of honesty! So why are YOU here? SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At least Bush stays focused on his job rather than a previous president. Democrats are upset because someone in that office is actually getting things accomplished..I am not necessarly a republican but I sure would have a hard time voting in a democrat at this point anyway, they don't have a clue. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Fw: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
--ForwardedMessage--Roman Catholic, Stupid!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sharon, are you a member of the Nation of Islam?-Original Message-From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:55:50 GMTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT Is your name Bush? Because HE don't read the papers, either! C-Span? CNN? FOX, even? They've ALL carried the story of who REALLY is at fault! Just today, a revelation came about about your boy, "BROWNIE"! Seems BROWNIE needed extra time to finish his dinner! That was before he was HUMBLED/er,FIRED/er,RESIGNED! Yeah, that's the ticket! Brownie, the Brown-Noser, crony/friend/buddy-boy, GONE!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:The LOCAL goverment failed, they never notified the feds thats what caused part of the delay. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: Fw: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT
Does anyone know who these posters are? They are NOT members of this group. One is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]. How can they post? Check all 350 members. They are not! Please help!--"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:--ForwardedMessage-- Dear Bear: You're a fine human being! Sad-DAM, BADD! We agree on one thing. Saddam is a Bad Man! No matter! YOU STARTED THIS! May You BURN, ALSO! ou come in here uninvited and start a political diatribe of no consequence, or of interest to Me, at least! If you think we're in bad shape here, stay your behind in Florida and I hope WIL-MAAA BLOWS you out to sea! Go hang out in a Repug, neo-con group!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear Sharon, I would like you to go on record RIGHT NOW and post that Saddam Hussein was a fine human being...Go ahead say ityou imbecile...Tell this board that Saddam was an angel...may you burn in hell!-Original Message-From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:41:49 GMTSubject: Re: [AsburyPark] I HATE DEMOCRATS AND DIRECTLY BLAME THEM FOR THE PLIG HT Dear Bear: This is an Asbury Park Group. We are Democrat, Republican and Other. Who is paying you to dish the dirt, you think you have, on the Democrats? Remember, "Nobody died, when Clinton lied"! Under Clinton, the Country had a LARGE Surplus, that your boy, Dubya, SQUANDERED! Bush gives tax breaks, ONLY, to the Rich and NOT the poor, who he lies to, daily. There were NO WMD's! No Reason to Invade another country, torture its' citizens, rob it of its' antiquities and TAKE it's GOLD BULLION! Who has that? CHENEY? We are near 2000 Deaths, thousands of casualties, lost limbs and ENDLESS War! There are NO Kids of these DESK-HAWKS, Flag Lapel Pin Wearers, Over There! THEY, including, AWOL BUSh, EX-ALCOHOLIC, DRUG ABUSER, TEMPER-TANTRUM Having, Spoiled Frat-Boy, President, NEVER SERVED! His House of Cards, is about to fall after Outing a known CIA-Undercover Agent. It's a Federal Offense, YOU! Ditto, on Tom Delay and Bill Frist, those bastions of honesty! So why are YOU here? SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At least Bush stays focused on his job rather than a previous president. Democrats are upset because someone in that office is actually getting things accomplished..I am not necessarly a republican but I sure would have a hard time voting in a democrat at this point anyway, they don't have a clue. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Whose property is it?
Werner, It's called encroachment. When property comes up for sale, a survey is taken, delineating property lines according to the lot number on the city map! No ifs, ands, buts, or maybes. I have no idea where city residents got the idea that they can encroach on ANY property lines, not THEIRS! They can be sued and fined if they don't remove fenches, shrubs, stones or any device, aimed at the taking for one's own use, the property of others. I scared the hell out of my next door neighbor when my home went up for sale. He allowed some shrubs to encroach on my property. He had to get a landscaper to move them or be fined by Neptune Township and me for every day his shrubs were there, in other words, he had to pay me rent! There's a stature or law on the books about it. Ask any real estate person about it. No, go out of Asbury Park and ask a Neptune Realtor about it. There is a disclaimer ,that if you don't cite the encroachment, after 10 years the land, even if it's a sliver, becomes yours! That's the caveat! So where is the code enforcer or whoever is in charge Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Chant Food Pantry
You missed my point entirely! I am NOT against this Charity AT ALL! There are a lot of people in this group involved in one charity or another! So you're older than me! I knew that! You know me but not by name or I have a forgettable face! One of the terms of this group is non-solicitation, which means, no spamming or petitoning for anything! This group is about everything, Asbury Park! Go to the group site and read! Better still, send a press release to the Coaster, or heaven forbid, the Press. Ma'm the Mom's you cite here are in dire straits, granted. I hated to sound mean-spirited and if I did, I beg your apology. I am not here to tell anyone what to do. All I asked is that you and some others adhere t the purpose of this group. What happened to the Sisters of Mercy? I remember them being the place to go, if one needed help. Did Sean Kean get rid of that service, too? He's too busy trying to get reelected to a job he's unqualified to do. The constituents, the majority, are here in Asbury Park! Does ANYONE know where his office is? I sure don't! Low income people are NOT being served! Ma'm I tell back everything I said. I don't own this group; I'm just part of it. Sorry, really! Sharon Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Local CHANT Food Pantry NEEDS YOUR HELP NOW: Che ck out t r u t h o u t - Katrina Food Aid Blocked by ...
Not against any Charity but this is an Asbury Park Group and I wish you and othres would adhere to this. Yahoo warns against solicitations of any kind. The group made an exception for the Katrina benefit, because it was made in Asbury Park, by Asbury Park residents and business owners. I suggest you, too, read this: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. There seems to be little or no moderation, here.SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--kyangazidenson[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: may I take this time to shamelessly remind you all that we need YOUR help here at home too! If you saw the 9/28/05 APP Local News, (below), then you know of the needs of Annie Hainesworth, Director of the CHANT Food Pantry of Neptune, (1301 Corlies Ave, 732-774-2712). So, Can you imagine that Since our own little Katrina in the area this pass week, the Chant Food Pantry's needs have grown even more dramatic. However,only MACY'S OF MONMOUTHhas designed a way for you to Help CHANTand enjoy a day of shopping for your gift giving holiday needs withthe Macy'sCommunity Charity Dayon November 1, 2005 from 9am to 11pm. Macy's has given CHANT500 PRE-Ticketsto SELL for this1 Day Charity eventfor$10.00 each.AND, In return Macy will give the first 1,000 customers a$10 Money Back MACY's GIFT CARDon the day of the sale, November 1.But we have yet to begin to meet this quota. But, IfCHANT issuccessful with your help, that's anExtra $5,000.00to help meetCHANT's need for the 200(and maybemore now)ThanksgivingTurkey Basket give awaysand the CHANT Children'sChristmas party to be held at the Neptune Learning Center. Please HELP CHANT continue to help your neighbors with your generousMONEY BACK$10 donation. Make your PLEDGE TODAY, Call CHANT 732-775-2712 And Remember, there are only 12 more days before the bigMacy'sof Monmouth's Community Charity day begins on November 1. CALL CHANT, buy your tickets, and let's go Shopping! Pantries go bare after KatrinaSeptember 28, 2005805 wordsID: asb20050928027Monmouth County's massive outpouring of support for victims of Hurricane Katrina has temporarily thwarted efforts by some local food pantries to keep their own shelves stocked for the county's neediest residents. Mary Ellen Hemenway, the county's coordinator of volunteer services, is urging school groups, churches, civic organizations and businesses to get involved with Project EAT (Everyone Ate Today) to ensure that local food pantries continue to receive ... Thank you So Much for your time and support Shangazi, CHANT volunteer Real Life Documentaries on MSP TV77 Watch MSP TV77 on Cablevision Tue 9:30pm732-775-1912For a Small Fee, It's Practically F[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well time to be a vegetarian, i guess they'll do something to the veggies too. better start a farm. Ms Shangazi Presents: Issues and answers MSP TV 77 Real Life Documentaries on MSPTV 77 Watch MSP TV 77 on Cablevision Tue 9:30pm Questions, Comments, Suggestions, 732-775-1912, [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a Small Fee, It's Practically FREE! Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] GREAT...AN AIDS CENTER...FOR 25 MISCREANTS........4 M ILLION RAISED.......
To [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You're entitled to your opinion, but you're on the verge of language, that some feel, tramples on the rights of others, whether you agree or not. First, "Do no harm"! I don't know the "25", as you put it, but if the City has agreed to allow something to go forward, it must be within the law. I suggest you read, http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/and stay within the guidelines of this group. There is also a paragraph dealing with children 13 and under. There certainly has been some language that I believe, children shouldn't be subjected to. If a parent "allows", his/her child to read, view or understand such language, they do so at their own risk. This IS an adult group, so I suggest, we act accordingly. Please, no flames! There's also a warning about that. SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--AllenMcDaniel[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:forsomeoneso'spiritual',yousureareajudgemental,intolerantandcompassion-lessbeliever!Waytolumpeveryonetogether!!Iguesstheguywhogetsaidsfromatransfusionorthekidwhogetsaccidentallystuckw/acontaminatedneedleisinthatsamegroup?MaybeyoushouldREADthatBibleyou'rethumpingabitmore.GODisLOVE,REMEMBER?JESUSHEALED!-A---mognj[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Theliberallefteesatitagain.BYTHEWAY.THEASBURYPOLICEDEPARTMENTNEEDS1MILLIONBUCKSFORNEWEQUIPMENT.THEDRUGDEALERSHAVEBETTERSTUFF...WENEED$250,000FORRECREATIONPROGRAMSTHEKIDSHAVENOTHING..NOAFFORDABLEHOUSINGNOWESTSIDEREDEVELOPEMENTILLEGALWATERFRONTPLANS..EMINENTDOMAINABUSE..Hey...allyousissies..thewelfareofacityof17,000takesprecidentover25sexualdeviantswhoaregoingtofacethewrathofDanyway.THISCITYISHOPELESSANDDUMB!THECITYCOUNCILANDCITYMANAGERSHOULDBEBOUNCEDANDTHECITYATTORNEYINDICTEDTHISGUYKAEDINGISAFREAK..PERIOD!Thepoliticallycorrectidiotsstrikeagain..Isupportthepoliceandchildrenbeforefaithlessperverts...__Yahoo!Mail-PCMagazineEditors'Choice2005http://mail.yahoo.comYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] August WIlson
Thank you for posting this beautiful piece. For those not familiar with Mr. Wilson's Body of Work, please read the link provided. For those who are, August has gone on, but he leaves a legacy for us to continue to enjoy. The only other Artist close enough, is Walter Mosley who wrote the Easy Rawlins series of books, including book turned film, Devil In a Blue Dress, starring Denzel Washington.SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"dfsavgny"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Somelong-duerecognition.Seehttp://tinyurl.com/bj5utYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: APPress, in Da Hood
-Sorry, I haven't been here long enough to know that. Lived here 13, Neptune, 20 and So. Belmar 1-1/2 yrs, but 35 here in Monmouth County. Since Asbury is not going to do it, I think that a group of us should start a center or school where children of color and other, can come and learn about themselves. It does no good to sit here and type out these diatribes. It can begin with one! A journey of a thousand miles begins with 1 step. If you'd like, we can talk about it. I'm not for blaming anyone, because when we come together, we make a difference! I know the young lady, that is trying to get some peace in her neighborhood. I knew her as a kid, growing up in Neptune. Life deals you a hand. It's how you play your hand, that decides the winner. I get so sick of hearing people complain, rather than act. I don't mean you. There aren't enough around, like you, who care, but if we come together and give those kids a couple of hours a week, with something to look forward to, we can make a difference. What do you say? -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't you know that the council only tells you what you want to hear? After 35 yrs you should know that.Like you said , all they are concerned about is the redevelopment, and what goes on elsewhere doesn't matter. They don't care if those kids sell drugs. They'll just jail them and put them to work in the federal pen,so they can have cheap labor and fulfill contracts for whatever the gov or state wants. You've seen them on the circle doing gardening and whatever else. It's all a game. As far as the youth goes, some of them fell the recreation will make a difference. Not always. They need constructive programs. Stop teaching that old educational crap , and teach them something that will help them to better their condition. Why teach them things that won't benefit them in the work field later in life. They should ask these children what they would like to learn and make that a part of the educational system. Instead of the history of people who aren't their ancestors, unless they want to be historians. Please give us a break and teach them the real history of this planet,and not just blacks came here as slaves. Tell them the real history of their royal roots.They have to know who they are to know where they are going. Give them a since of pride. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Check out t r u t h o u t - Katrina Food Aid Blocked by US Rules
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allen McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess now we can send them to the earthquake victims!! -al --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Click here: t r u t h o u t - Katrina Food Aid Blocked by US Rules_ (http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/101405A.shtml) Sure give the garbage to the Katrina victims. They're so hungry, they'll eat anything! How in the world did this crap get here in the 1st place. Britain and the US are something! Last week they began talking about avian flu. I could have told you avian flu was around the corner! It's weeding out time! Let Katrina victims drown! Let the Pakistanis smother to death, cause no one is coming to the rescue, not even Jim Dandy! No one will be eating chicken, not even the Black folks and I mean that as a pun! Beef will shoot up sky high and that other white meat, PORK will soar! I hope you find this funny, but it really isn't. These are tactics used by governments to weed out who they don't want! Remember Aids? It was supposed to weed Blacks out. That didn't work, so they start a war and weed out poor black and white people! Don't need us! With a war they get to kill 2 birds with one stone. You have poor blacks and whites fighting a war for rich white men who wear flag lapel pins, whose kids, like them, will never serve! they are killing other brown people in 3 countries, Iran, Iraq and afghanistan! They cancel each other out! How did forbidden beef from britain get here? Mad cow, anyone? Just what we need! __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1482
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/14/2005 5:51:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:13:32 - From: Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Who is this? This bounced back. Is this person a member? If not, someone should check. I received an email from what appeared to be a member of this group. Here's my reply. Unfortunately, your mail was not delivered to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sharon - That was Maire Martello from the show. Maureen Speak up - It's America!! Maureen Nevin Asbury Radio -The Radio Voice of Asbury Park 88.1FM - 5 Years on the Air!! Asbury's Own Live Talk Show 601 Bangs Avenue Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or Listen Live or Later on the Web http://www.restoreradio.com/ Call the show 732-775-0821 Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 Maureen: Unfortunately, the brain-cells that are supposed to make me remember, have failed! I can't remember what she wrote but great hearing from you! Suffering from CRS! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: APPress, in Da Hood
In 35 years, I don't remember that corner, ever being totally empty, except in a hard blowing rain, or a blizzard and since I have to pass that corner from time to time, it's disgraceful, that parents have to be intimidated, if they speak out. It's really sad, that so much effort, is being spent on redevelopment, of the boardwalk, when you've had an epidemic, right on that corner. When youths have to resort to selling drugs, rather than working at a regular job, there's something wrong, with the system. The rationale, is why work for$5.25, when you can rake in, as much as the market will bear? Funny thing, is you seldom see a patrol car, there. I'm not condoning the sale or use of illegal drugs, just wondering, how the system failed these kids. I read that the school board had to cut back on programs. Why is Asbury Park, with all of its' problems, shortchanged? When the education budgets of other districts seem to be making it, why isn't Asbury Park? Doesn't the Board, employ an Attorney? If so, what does the Attorney do? Who makes up the budget? Why isn't this district, up to stuff? Not blaming the board, just wondering! Why can't Asbury Park keep a high school principal? Why are saleries, for Principals and Superintendant, so high? I remember when the President of the United states only received, $200,000 a year? Is it me? Does anybody know? I know that minority children, are suffering, from a lack of caring, no trade schools, to steer under-employed youth, etc. I don't see the military, as a way to avoid poverty, with this endless war going on. The rich, send the poor to fight wars, they themselves wouldn't suit up for, wear flag lapel pins and call themselves Patriots and when you disagree with them, YOU become a threat and to them, a terrorist, just for disagreeing. There's a whole lot of desk-hawks out there, so keep on supporting, whatever it is you support. You strap a uniform on poor black and white youths, cheer them on to the front and when they come back in body bags, or lame for life, you avert your gaze away from them, so no, the military, is not the way. These kids, can learn how to be electricians, plumber's, carpenters, chefs, or any myriad of alternate professions. Whatever hapened to that Jobs program that the council wrote a resolution for? Swept under the rug? I don't read or hear anything about it, so do citizens have to hold their feet to the fire? Inquiring minds want to know! Where's that UEZ money? Isn't that what it's for? Jim Keady is only one person but he IS making a difference! Too bad, others don't see our children as the prioity they ARE! Asbury Park will continue to have the BAD rep, they've carried, at the expense of other kids, who DO make it! I KNOW that Asbury Park kids, are good kids. Some, just make bad decisions, that make the whole town look bad! Let's Support Our children! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nancy Shields, who I recall getting slammed more than once or twice on this board, wrote a terrific and alarming article, front page below the fold, about dope peddling on the west side of AP. Only Keady and Bruno are mentioned. The article details all the things that were said at the council meeting that produced the Eminent Domain blessing by the city council. Eminent Domain, waterfront permits, a taste of asbury, down town redevelopment, Deal Lake, the Casino and Convention Hall...none of that means a thing if Asbury Park can't, or won't, clean the streets of crime. That a united effort between the citizens, property owners, and City Hall are necessary to combat the criminals who openly ply their craft throughout Asbury is a given. I would bet that the citizens, and the property owners would willingly devote their time money and resources to rid Asbury of the criminal plague, I, based on the past lack of action, doubt that City Hall gives a KRAP about the nickel baggers and pock marked prostitutes, let alone have the guts and grit necessary to make Asbury a safe haven for nice people to live. Because that is what it all comes down to, ripping out the old and decayed brick by brick and moving nice people into Asbury Park. So, when does the grass roots, bi-partisan movement to keep Codey governor begin. Between Forester and Corzine, my old buddy Terry Weldon might be a better choice. Meanwhile Codey makes smart moves, seems to be of the people and for the people, and, to the naked eye, isn't a scum sucking corrupt thief like our last elected governor. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
[AsburyPark] Re: Waterfront Redevelopment Plan - website storage needed
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo group apthehardtalk is another Asbury group. It was started a few months ago but doesn't have any activity. I think you can put it in that groups file. Membership is instant yahoo has everyones info so its just a couple of clicks. ]:~) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the waterfront redevelopment plan is no longer available on the City's website, I wanted to upload the (9) files comprising the waterfront redevelopment plan to the Files section of the forum, however, there is a size limitation (5mb per file 20mb for group) which precludes this. Anyone know where I can upload these files to be available for viewing by the public? Hi kids! So glad to see you all getting along, without me! Skip, hope to see you Saturday at the Katrina benefit! Hope to meet more of you there! Loved meeting Tommy and Skip! Know what? The in-fighting, the off topic remarks, the bit**in' that constantly go on here, was not what I expected! I thought this was a group about everything Asbury Park, not Immenent Domain, per se. If this is what it's all about, why do we have Maureen posting her broadcast, agenda? That off topic, too? Free speech suspended here? Also been told that the Council reads this groups comments, so I guess I'm at the top of the list, huh? You know which list, I'm talking about. Okay, I apologize, already! I am in no way, the person who will effect change here. Thought this was a free country. Guess, not! No, I am NOT in lock-step, with anyone; just don't grin and be a hypocrite, for NO-ONE! I made a comment about someone I love and dearly respect, supported to the Nth degree, but I forgot He is human, with human frailites and I guess I lost it. For that I humbly apologize! I take it all back, because I didn't mean it and will do all in my power, to repair, the damage, I've done. To Mayor Sanders, I humbly apologize and hope you can forgive my rabid comments! To everybody else, go straight to H*LL! You know who I mean! Are the surveillence cameras in place, in our fair city, as D. Jacobsen calls it? Just WHO is this city geared, to? Not me! I am one of those people this City, puts up with, cause they don't know what else to do with me! Werner, you can have your website back, brother, since you own it! Stat, that! JEEZ! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Posters - past month
-Werner, is this a contest? Didn't know anyone was keeping count! Haven't been posting much, but still reading! Glad to see everybody getting along, as usual, wink,wink! Hope to see ya'll next weekend! It's not a threat! Skip, you are too much for me. BB, I thought you were a nice guy, but I guess Zebra's never change their stripes! Werner stay sweet? Been off and haven't read all the posts, but who are the Loffredo 7 and what has John done to you? No, not you! I see Maureen's still keeping it real here. Gonna Listen this week! No meetings! Sandy, still here? Write to me! I see JerseyKev is back or is he? Is He a He? No pun intended because some people pretend to be other than what they are and I don't mena that in a sexual context, either! Whatever, hope to see you all Saturday! Keep fighting for what's right in sweet, Asbury! Shameless Plug! Shop at Kathy's! What a place! Perfect for AP! Great prices, too! Told all of my friends about her shop because the theme for my club is Anchors! Anchors Aweigh! She's Got em'! -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... ...my recollection of Werner's last Tally had you posting roughly twice what I'm able, when not occupied drinking my bottle of wine. From #Posts %Posts - bluebishop82 126 14.13 dfsavgny 113 12.67 Skip Bernstein 111 12.44 sandy 98 10.99 Sharon G. Boone 566.28 wernerapnj455.04 jerseykev 414.60 jerseyjohn99 364.04 Lighty343.81 oakdorf 303.36 - Respectfully Submitted, Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Questions for Assembly Candidates
Joe, You took the words out of my mouth! Your last question is what really got to me. Why was the office MOVED out of Asbury Park? Who is Sean Kean REALLY serving? I saw the photo Op in last week's coaster. Front page! To say what? The photo surely didn't reflect the demographics of a 67% Black Majority! It was so telling! The only person that I knew lived in Asbury Park was Tommy D! Just a blind observation! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 5:01 PM -0400 10/2/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Since we gave them the topic areas awhile ago, your question would have to fit one of the following categories: eminent domain, property taxes, political corruption, campaign finance disclosure or housing. This should be interesting to see what kind of input we get. I'll bet the answers go something like this: Eminent Domain: All four will be against it if a person's primary residence will be taken. Property Taxes: All four will be for lowering property taxes. Political Corruption: All four will be against political corruption. Campaign Finance Disclosure: All four will be in fave of campaign finance disclosure. Housing: Here's the one category of your limited categories where they might disagree. You should ask them all about other municipalities selling their RCA obligations to other towns, specifically Asbury Park. I'll bet that all four have the wrong answer. (Be sure to include your personal disclaimer on the issue of RCA programs.) Now if you really want to see a debate, you can ask them about the one issue that they disagree on: equal rights for everyone including gays and lesbians. You can ask Kean and Coredemus how it can be that they claim to have strong support in the gay and lesbian community when they didn't even vote in favor of the state's domestic partnership registration act. (Kean abstained and Coredemus voted no.) Doherty and Reilly are advocates for equal rights for all citizens and have made specific outreach to the gay and lesbian community including a fund raiser this very afternoon at Club Paradise. Republicans Kean and Coredemus' idea of reaching out to the gay community is having Tom De Seno calling me on the phone. Here's another question... Since Doherty and Reilly have committed to opening their legislative office in Asbury Park once they are elected, you can ask Kean and Coredemus if they will do the same. Better yet... you can ask Kean why he moved his legislative office out of Asbury Park in the first place. ~joe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1449
Oh Boy, I should wish! You cracked me up! My laugh for the day! Didn't know Asbury had such talent! You related to George Carlin or Bill Maher? New Rules? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meeting City Hall 11 AM - 9/21- Asbury Park Citizen Files Suit against Attorney General Peter Harvey for Homeland Security Fund Politically- Directed Allocations. Hoping that is was the following, in order of desire: 1) Fishman pulling out 2) Agreement for NJMOF to be in Casino 3) Bruno, Loffredo Sanders resigning 4) I won Mega Ball Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Big Announcement at AP City Hall
I'm bustin' my gut here! YEEEOOOWWW! Love you Sandy! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it is 12:40. What was the big announcement at Curruption Central?- Anyone know or care? -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is going on at City Hall is totally different from the Wonder Bar. The Wonder Bar is in regards to the hurricane effort. City hall Press Conference is a lot different. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Big Announcement at AP City Hall
OO! Cabana Boy! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And our taxes pay for this city slacker! If it wasn't for Daddy he would still be a CABANA BOY in Allenhurst. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can read about it in the paper tomorrow and the coaster. If everyone is so interested then you should have been there. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: sue in small claims - could lose a lot
Skip: If Mayor Sanders could grow a set of balls, like Mayor Nagin, who called the President's hand, we may be able to save this city. If the City Manager, could join WITH the Mayor and the 2 called Asbury Partners hand, we could save the City. If the City of Asbury Park, could call the Governor's hand, Governor Shrek, as 101.5 calls him, build a fire under his butt, maybe, just maybe, Asbury Park can become the City WE want. If the other councilmen would get off their dead, greedy, asses, excluding, Ed and Jim Keady, maybe, just maybe the only 2 progressive councilmen could whip this town awake because it is clearly asleep! Asbury Partners is NOT our Partner! Just take the bridge to Interlaken, down Ocean Ave., genuflect as you pass Konvitz's house, the modest ranch that it IS, kiss his ring too, while you're at it and when you pass the WindMill, look to your right. It's the beginning of Condo City, smack on the oceanfront of what USED to be Long Branch! Yuppie City, it's become! God help us! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The relationship between the City and the Developer has to be like Master and Dog, with the City being the Master. If the Dog knows it can bully the Master it will constantly. The great irony in Asbury is that the Dog is but a faux mutt, whines but has no bark, eats voraciously but has no teeth, and defecates all over town because the city has no leash. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember the meeting at the Wonder Bar the night before the Carousel House came down? A city official warned the Historical Society not to antagonize the Master Developer if they wanted to save some of the other Asbury treasures. That the basic problem in how this city government has handled the Developer; it fears him. It should be the other way around. The relationship between the City and the Developer has to be like Master and Dog, with the City being the Master. If the Dog knows it can bully the Master it will constantly. Had our leaders had the gumption to be the Master it would have shoved Default up Asbury Partners hind quarters long ago. Next chapter. Heard a rumour the C-8 steel might have to come down. I uploaded a file to the forum which is an excerpt from the Redevelopment Plan. If it comes down, the site can only be built to 3, 6 8 stories. Obviously it will not accomodate the same amount of units as envisioned (224). That means, Metro on;t pay Fishman the same amount of money. If this happens, you can expect that an amendment to the plan will be requested. If the City was the Master it would make sure that it got some of the extra money for allowing the amendment to still allow C-8 to be built to its original height. But I suspect that the City will play the Dog once again. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] gas pirates....
Put a stop to it by writing the Pres. and ask him to sign an executive Order, freezing the price of gas at $blah-blah! That's all it takes! But will he do it? NO! Bush is out to take over the World!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"oakdorf"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:OakhustServiceStation,outdidGettybetween3-5pmtoday-goingfrom3.49to3.85.WanamassaJerseyOil@3.73asisMonmouthOilonRt35inOT.Theoilco'swillforcethesmallguystoclose/stopsellinggas.Someoperatorsaresimplyclosing,refusingtosellasnottotakegrieffromloyalcustomers.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
No, you're just saying that you are Not a PUPPET like him! You agree to disagree, which is as American as Apple Pie! Bush is like a spoiled brat! If you don't play the game his way, he grabs up the game and stalks off, pouting like the brat/dictator/anarchist, HE is! I'm waiting for the concentration camps to open. Oh, I forgot, they closed down Dome City and opened one at the Astro Dome!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--Lighty[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Isn'tthatwhatwehavenow?Ifyoudon'tagreewitheverythingthispresidentsaysordoesyouhavebeendeemedun-american.Ipaycloseattentiontoconservativepublicationsandblogs.Idon'tseeanyoneonoursidecallingyoursideun-American.Iconstantlyseeyoursideaccusingusofcallingyouun-American.Verycuriousbehavioronyourpart.Maybeit'ssomesortofguiltyfeelingforyourpostions?Readcloselyintothatlastline.KindasoundslikewhatpeoplewouldhavesaidinGermanybackintheday,doesn'tit?Ifwedon'tblindlyfollowthispresidentIguesswemustbewrongandsomehowfeel"guilty"aboutit.Not.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
Sandy, can you spell "Half-Past Dumb"?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Whyshouldyouembarressyourlovingfamilylikethat?;~)---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Mario,sinceIsaid"ThankYou"forcallingmeaDittohead,didn'tthattipyouoffthatIknewwhatitwas?Onceagain,ThankYou!IweartheDittoheadtagproudly!Mega-dittos,Rush!!!Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: SUNDAY MORNING: NEW ORLEANS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SUNDAY MORNING IN NEW ORLEANS FROM DIRECTNIC - MY DOMAIN NAME REGISTRY COMPANY... THE FOLLOWING WAS POSTED BY KEVIN BROWN WRITTEN BY MIKE OF DIRECTNIC: Sunday, September 4th, 2005 8:51 am Phones for City Sig has been coordinating with the city to get them phones for the past couple of days. It's a daunting task but hopefully we can get the some comms. That huge convoy of utility type trucks rolling in appears to MCI. Seems like the tech type stuff is gonna be up and running before the flooding is pumped out and the water is turned on. (_19 Comments_ (http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/49971.html) |_Comment on this_ (http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/49971.html? mode=reply) ) 7:55 am Up and at 'em Slept in til 7am today. The police and military still control the streets and they're patrolling in force by vehicle -- you can see this on the cam. A lot of people have asked about the vehicles and who's in them. They're all police vehicles now -- commandeered. Let me address the political situation for a moment. I noticed that the responses I've been getting on the blog and the stuff I've been reading in the mainstream media has become very politicized. I'm not going to get into politics here -- I'm just going to do my work and then report what I see and hear throughout the day. If you guys want to play Democrat vs Republican vs Independent, go right ahead, but I'm really weary of the permanent election season this country's turned into. Honestly, these are politicians you guys are getting so excited about. Politicians. As far as I'm concerned, I don't trust people who want to tell other people how to spend their money and what they can read or see on television and what they can do in the privacy of their own homes. There's no way I'm going to feel comfortable supporting someone who thinks he knows what's best for the rest of society and is willing to use force and the threat of force to make others fall into line. So yeah, I'm not going to support or condemn anyone specific for what's going on here. And another thing to think about when we start pointing fingers is this. The government is never equipped to handle a crisis like this. There's too much bureaucracy -- initiative-stifling bureaucracy which prevents swift, effective action. I would like to hear from government employees on this. The nature of that bureaucracy is such that you have very specific guidelines to follow for even the most minute tasks. You need approval for just about everything, and the person you need approval from usually needs approval to give you the approval. It's not as easy as say rounding up 4 of your co-workers and saying, We've got someone at such and such an address, let's go grab her and get her out of there. Now add a destroyed or disabled command and control center to that bureaucracy and you've got a total and complete mess. You (as a civilian) don't need Approved stamped on 3 different forms before you can run into your neighbor's house and pull them out. I hope this makes sense. Anyway, I'm sure there's been human error in this catastrophe. How could there not be? But what I'm saying is that I've come to expect poor decision making and a total lack of initiative from government. They can't even balance a budget, at the federal, state, or local levels. I could balance my checkbook and spend within my means when I was a teenager. But I'm not gonna point fingers and get into the blame game. If you want me to blame something besides the storm herself, I blame the nature of government in the first place. It's too big, it's too slow, it's too inefficient, it's too bloated, and it's too intiative-stifling to be effective in normal circumstances, much less in a disaster. It's a systemic issue, more than an issue of individual people in government. Ok, that being said, I see more civilians on the street now -- although many of them appear to be journalist types. More later. I see. You're a professional exploiter, just like Pat Robertson, calling for the murder of Hugo Chavez, as long as your hat is full when it's passed! Too bad they didn't snipe you, O white boy, holier than thou or those coloreds as you call them. I'd like to see the video of one of them thugs as you call them giving you a good old fashioned ass-whipping! You deserve one! Pretending to be a man of the cloth, to keep from holding a REGULAR job! How's your 501C3 status going? Have one! Got a EIN? I wished the FBI would wire me up to catch you! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page
Re: [AsburyPark] Refugees
Before I expound, let me say that I heard them on Fox News saying "they" resent being called "refugees" because they are CITIZENS, first! The whole way they've been treated is inhumane! Most are from the West bank, Algiers, La., homeowners and were "forced" to leave. That area is NOT flooded. They just don't have essential services like fresh water and electricity, phone service or police protection. Not going to belabor it because it is not essential to what's happening there. They were transported by bus and "dumped" there with no water, no food but the promise of service which NEVER arrived. If you are the Christian you claim to be why are'nt you there with the "people" like Jesse Jackson, who came to New Orleans with buses but nowhere to take these poor people! I saw one woman who said, "this is NOT the way we live"! I know becuse they are the "cleanest" people on the planet. In the summer they bathe at least twice a day due to the heat and humidity, so to say the conditions are savage is an understatement. I am trying to get home to help out in a parish I know well, St. Peter Claver's on St. Phillip St. The priest there is feeding the "residents" left, three meals a day, clean clothes and a dry place to sleep. Basic comfort. Are you there to "cash" in? Many will be exploited of basic human service. I have 2 good hands and faith. I can change diapers, wash faces, cook for, hug and comfort my people. When I say that I mean all colors, all persuasions and just "do"! Take my statement any way you choose. I don't care but they are NOT refugees, they are American Citizens, with a profound history in this country. The press is junping on Kanye West for telling the truth! When Florida has a storm, help is there the next day! Why not for the largest city in the South? Too Black, too strong, too democratic? God Bless and Keep you!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: A refugee is not a foreigner it is some one that flees from persecution. Usually they flee to another country because the country they are in is persecuting them. The people in New Orleans are refugees because they are seeking refuge - they are lost everything.. sometimes it pays to look up a work before you EXPOUND... Main Entry: ref·u·geePronunciation: "re-fyu-'jE, 're-fyu-"Function: nounEtymology: French réfugié, past participle of (se) réfugier to take refuge, from Latin refugiumDate: 1685: one that flees; especially : a person who flees to a foreign country or power to escape danger or persecution - ref·u·gee·ism /-"i-zm/ noun YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Indefensible
OO! I want to comment but don't dare. Received an email saying to Get back To Asbury Park! When I logged in yesterday, after not posting for a week, I FOUND comments on Katrina here, already! Being a native of New Orleans, which I have NEVER kept a secret, I replied to several posts. So if someone would like to start another thread, I'll join you there. I celebrated my 61st birthday on Monday, but thel ast week was filled with events given by my family and friends, which kept me from posting! My two sisters, who still live in town called me last Friday, the 26th, to let me know they were headed for hotels in Houston. One niece was already in Dallas on business and saw no reason to return to N.O., knowing that the evacuation order had already gone out. Bush had a week to put troops, water and food into place, but didn't! The deaths and treatment of so many people predominantly Black, rests soley on his head! Now my family has no place to return to! My sister's home is under water. The other who lives on Burgundy St., right outside the French Quarter, won't be allowed back in for 2 months. They are employed and in business there. Everything is gone! I have about 15 first cousins, an ex-husband and his relatives missing! My brotherinlaw hasn't been seen since he was forced to evacuate the West Bank for the SuperDome, so Werner, this is it for me, okay? The rest will do what they want, without me. They've done it all week! I just returned to this group yesterday, so you want your group back? You have it!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Tom, your comment: Yup. Another clear case of "Bush Derangement Syndrome." Your hatred of the Bush family has retarded your ability to think clearly. seems to a clear case of what George Orwell called the "defense of the indefensible." The list of Republicans and conservatives harshly criticizing the president this week speaks volumes: David Brooks,New Hampshire's Union Leader,the Washington Times,Tony Blankley, et al.Hardly "Bush haters." Here's some clear thinking fromHowell Raines: "Almost as unbelievable as Katrina itself is the fact that the leader of the free world has been outshone by the elected leaders of a region renowned for governmental ineptitude.Louisiana's anguished governor, Kathleen Babineaux Blanco, climbed into a helicopter at the first possible moment to survey what may become the worst weather-related disaster in American history. Even Gov. Haley R. Barbour of Mississippi, a tiresome blowhard as chairman of the Republican National Committee, has shown a throat-catching public sorrow and sleepless diligence that put Bush to shame.This president who flew away Monday to fundraisers in the West while the hurricane blew away entire towns in coastal Mississippi is very much his father's son. George H.W. Bush couldn't quite connect to the victims of Hurricane Andrew, nor did he mind being photographed tooling his golf cart around Kennebunkport while American troops died in the first Iraq war. After preemptively declaring a state of emergency, the younger Bush seemed equally determined to show his successors how to vacation through an apocalypse.On Tuesday, he urged people to stay where they were, even if their evacuation residence might be the leaking-roof, clogged-toilet Superdome. On Wednesday, as he met by intercom with his emergency team and decided to return to Washington, as Pentagon and Homeland Security promised relief by the weekend, intensive-care patients were dying at Charity Hospital in New Orleans. They had languished for two full days because the overworked Coast Guard helicopter crews available in New Orleans did not have time to reach them.The populism of Huey Long was financially corrupt, but when it came to the welfare of people, it was caring. The churchgoing cultural populism of George Bush has given the United States an administration that worries about the House of Saud and the welfare of oil companies while the poor drown in their attics and their sons and daughters die in foreign deserts." (Complete text here:The Crescent City blues - Los Angeles Times ) mjd Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame Date: 9/3/2005 2:47:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent on: Thanks for the correction, Frank! Now let's see if I can get this right:Hurricane Andrew: George H.W. Bush's fault.Hurricane Katrina: George W. Bush's fault.Hurricane = Bush genocide.Yup. Another clear case of "Bush Derangement Syndrome." Your hatred of the Bush family has retarded your ability to think clearly.Fortunately I'm qualified to give you a perscription to fight that. You need to be Hannitized. Listen to 77 AM next Monday to Friday from 3:00 to 6:00 PM. The truth is the antidote for Bush Derangement Syndrome. Feel better Frank.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycheech" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
Re: [AsburyPark] say it loud
Racist? No true statement! I criticized her! I am Black, she is Black, I think, so there's no racism here! I didn't say she was unaccomplished. She is the White Man's tool! When I say that, she is being USED by whites, in such a way that she can't speak for HERSELF, less SHE be vilified by THEM! Bush says, "you're either with us, or a'gin us". The old "go along to get along", syndrome! did you hear what the Congressional Black Caucus said yesterday on C-Span? Come on! Condi Rice is NO Civil Rights Leader! She was too YOUNG! SHE did NOT participate in the Movement! She was 6 0r 7 at the time! Educated? Yes! Accomplished? Yes! You know and I know, that she is NOT for her people! She's not even for "progressive" whites!She is an OIL BARON, just like Cheney, Rove, Bush 1 and Bush 2! She is like Marie Antoinette! "Let em eat cake"! You and people like you, criticize Jesse Jackson, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X and others because, they HAVE the welfare of Black People at heart but no, you like a Condi Rice whose pockets are lined with money from the exploitation of others! HOW DARE YOU! I am critical to Blacks and Whites I consider racists and bigots! If everything were fair and equal, how come I can't get a job here? I have a degree in Business, yet everytime I DECIDE to work, (I'm retired from ATT), I can't get a job here, but I can go to work for IBM, The Univ. of Chicago, Ford, etc., as a contractor! Notice I didn't ask YOU for a job! So stay white and I wish you luck and success as a white person!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--traderdube[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:SharonBoonewrote..."CondiRiceisanAuntyTomasita!WhataB!ShedoesNOTspeakforANYBlackPersonhereorintheSouth!AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!"Pardonme,butisthatthemostracistthingthatIhaveeverreadhereoranywhereelse?YourdamnrightCondiRicedoesn'tspeakforanyBlackPerson...CondiRicespeaksforallpeopleofallraces,allcreedsandallreligions.ShespeaksanddoesmoreforthefreedomofManthananyotherwomanIknowofonthisEarth.InsteadofvillifyingCondiRice,youSharon,ofallpeopleshouldbehoildingherupasanexampleofwhatawomancanbecomeiftheyWORKhardandTRYtobetterthemselves.Shameonyou.Andshameontherestofyouwhotakesuchahorrifictragedyandturnitintoyourpoliticalfootball.GeorgeBushwasnomoreorlesstoblameforthesufferingscausedbyKatrinathananyonereadingthis.AndGeorgeBushisthePresidentofTheUnitedStates,heisnotthepersoninchargeofNewOrleans,ortheGulfCoast.TheelectedleadershipofthehurricaneravagedGulfCoasthavebyandlargeprovedtobeabunchofwhimperingincompetentidiotswhocouldspellleadershipwithaspelchecker.TherehadbeennoleadershipdownthereuntilthePresidentarrivedandBushhadtheballstosayso.BlueBishop,thankyoufortakingontheseidiots,asSkipsaid,yourpostshavebeencogentandrightontarget.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: say it loud -- He who gaveth absolutely takes it away
If you're responding to me, let me just say that I responded to traderdube, not you. Don't know what you said. I did see your moniker at the bottom. Pardon me as I close the door, cause I'm outta here!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"SkipBernstein"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:"BlueBishop,thankyoufortakingontheseidiots,asSkipsaid,yourpostshavebeencogentandrightontarget."WhoaNellie;mygenerositytowardtheBlindBishop,intheunlikelyeventyoufailedtogetthegistofmyjest,was100%facetious.Hewhogavethabsolutelytakesitaway.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,traderdube[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:SharonBoonewrote..."CondiRiceisanAuntyTomasita!WhataB!ShedoesNOTspeakforANYBlackPersonhereorintheSouth!AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!"Pardonme,butisthatthemostracistthingthatIhaveeverreadhereoranywhereelse?YourdamnrightCondiRicedoesn'tspeakforanyBlackPerson...CondiRicespeaksforallpeopleofallraces,allcreedsandallreligions.ShespeaksanddoesmoreforthefreedomofManthananyotherwomanIknowofonthisEarth.InsteadofvillifyingCondiRice,youSharon,ofallpeopleshouldbehoildingherupasanexampleofwhatawomancanbecomeiftheyWORKhardandTRYtobetterthemselves.Shameonyou.Andshameontherestofyouwhotakesuchahorrifictragedyandturnitintoyourpoliticalfootball.GeorgeBushwasnomoreorlesstoblameforthesufferingscausedbyKatrinathananyonereadingthis.AndGeorgeBushisthePresidentofTheUnitedStates,heisnotthepersoninchargeofNewOrleans,ortheGulfCoast.TheelectedleadershipofthehurricaneravagedGulfCoasthavebyandlargeprovedtobeabunchofwhimperingincompetentidiotswhocouldspellleadershipwithaspelchecker.TherehadbeennoleadershipdownthereuntilthePresidentarrivedandBushhadtheballstosayso.BlueBishop,thankyoufortakingontheseidiots,asSkipsaid,yourpostshavebeencogentandrightontarget.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: The Guiding Light
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got done reading the past 3 days of the AP Yahoo groups discussions and I'll tell you what, it saddened me. Not only did the bigotry and racism that exists in so many here come to the front, but the whole idea of turning the tragedy that hit the Gulf Coast into a political football is sickening. Pretty soon I suspect some idiot is going to blame The Fish for the street thugs of Asbury Park. And then I get accused of being a Ku Kluxer. That my house was once a meeting place for the Klan as recently as the 60's is about as close as I have ever come to the KKK. To deny that the lost generations if welfare bred couch potatoes, cell phone on one hand, game boy in the other, watching big screen TV's while waiting for their welfare check is akin to the small minds, or lack thereof, that produced a demonic group like the KKK. I took the liberty of removing the disgraceful flag from the Fast Lane this week. I work with a group of Mexicans and when the flag was brought up here a while back, I mentioned it to them while we drove by the Fast Lane on our way to the job. One of the Mexicans who speaks a little English seemed to be saying that it, the tattered flag, was still there and he said t was no good. It was this Mexican who insisted on getting the ladder, and this Mexican who climbed the ladder and removed the flag. Yeah, I'm a real Ku Kluxer. A Klansman with a posse of Mexicans helping to rebuild Asbury Park so nice people can move in and the trash can be thrown out. John Lennon said it best...How Do You Sleep at Night? So how much do you pay these unskilled laborers? These illegals? Do they have green cards? If unskilled Blacks were here, we'd be deported! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who to blame
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The local and state officials completely failed in the pre-storm evacuations etc. The federal gov. failed post-storm. :-( --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHERE DID THE MAYOR OF NEW ORLEANS THE GOVERNOR GO WHEN THE STORM HIT ??? WHY OH WHY DID THEY NOT TAKE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT LEAVE THE CITY OUT OF THE CITY EARLIER Who do we blame I really don't know who is the blame but we need to work together to help everyone that needs help. Toni Not living there now, the Governor is in Baton Rouge, the State Capitol. I wouldn't expect her to be in New Orleans or any outlying Parish during the height of the storm. Remember, the storm by-passed New Orleans. It was the levee that burst, that inundated the City, the day AFTER the storm. The Mayor has a storm headquarters WITHIN the city but can't control a levee break, especially when the feds told him to kiss their ass, when they refused 2 YEARS IN A ROW, for needed funds. The Army Corp of Engineers, a Federal Flood Mamagement Team like the Tennessee Valley Authority, is in charge of the levees, NOT the City! It's a part of the Emergency Management. I haven't lived there in 35 years, yet you want ME to be the expert for you, but because I LISTEN and I READ, you want ME to be EINSTEIN, when YOU PEOPLE who are natives of NEW JERSEY, don't even know your OWN laws and regulations! Spare ME! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Blaming The President?
People ARE speaking out! You aren't on the right threads/forums, but they're OUT there!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--Lighty[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Ifnowisnotthetimetodiscussthis,whenthetradgedyisarealityandclearlyoneveryopne'smind,whenis?6months?12months?100years?Historywillbetheultimatejudge,buthowmanytradgediesmustbesufferedbeforeit'spoliticallycorrecttoraisethedifficultquestions?Tony,That'sexactlytheproblem.WeliveinaperiodoftimewhereJoeMcCarthyIIisincharge.HemakesNixonlooklikeasaint.YousimplyCANNOThaveareasonableargumentthatmakesthepresidentlookwrong.Thispresidentisneverwrong.Heneverhearsfromanyonethatdisagreeswithhim,firesthosethatdo,andbelievesthatstubbornness-evenwhenwrong-isagoodtraitratherthantoevolveandchangeyourmindorperspectiveonthings.Icannotbelievethatanybodyelsewouldhavegottenawaywithchangingthereasonsanationwasledintowarasmanytimesasthispresidenthasdone.Thisisoneofthemostdifficultdecisionsapresidenthastomakeandheliedtousrepeatedlyoverwhatoursoldiersaredyingfor.Butyou'vegottagivetheadministrationcredit.They'vesuccessfullybrandedanyonewithadifferentopinionas"unpatriotic"andmadealotofgoodpeoplekeeptheirmouthshutforthepastfewyears.I'mstillwaitingforsomeonetobebraveenoughandadmitthatwewerewrong:1Saddamdidn'thaveweapons.Hewasjustkingofthehillandwantedhisnationtobelievehehadweaponstofearhim.2WewillhavespentaboutTENtimestheamountthepresidentoriginallysaidthiswarinIraqwasgoingtocostbythetimeit'sover(ifever)3Wehavedonevery,verylittletoprotecthomelandsecuritysince9/11-allyouhadtodoistakeatrainorsubwayduringthepast4yearstowonderwhenchangesweregoingtohappen4Theborderhasbeenopenedupduringaperiodoftimewhenwe'resupposedtobestoppingterrorism.WhymakeiteasierforthemtocomeacrossintotheUS?5Wehavenotonlystretchedourmilitaryforcesthinbutourreachingall-timelowsasfarasrecruitinggoes.Nobodywantstobesenttowarforever.Andyet,peoplearescaredtodiscussthis.Folks,discussingthisisNOTUNPATRIOTICitistheopposite.Itisthemostpatrioticthingwecando.Silenceiswhatkillsanation.IhaveGermanbloodrunningthroughmyveinsandIknowthatitwasthesilencethatledthatnationintoruin.Whenpeoplefailareafraidtospeakup,whatdoesthatsayaboutthefreedomswearesupposedlyhavingsoldiersdiefor?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] CREW IN NEW ORLEANS
Glad you're there, Kevin. Looking for my brother in law, Kieth George Jones, friends call him Larry. He was last seen boarding a bus for the SuperDome on Monday. Hasn't been heard from since. He is 64 and has a bad hip and foot. My sisters are in Houston, since last weekend. Sister lost everything! If you can locate Kieth, we'd be grateful. email his daughter Lauren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you locate him. We feel he's okay, just can't call. No service in the 504 area. He is a resident of Algiers, La., across the river frm N.O. Had to evacuate under orders from the police. No water there, no services either. Thanks, SharonSharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: POSTED FROM THE CREW IN NEW ORLEANS BY KEVIN BROWN Been Busy.My screw-up earlier with respect to diesel preparations has been rectified. We've got 18 drums on the floor level awaiting the next truck delivery today or tomorrow. We had to empty all drums into the tanks, move them down there, work on the building's small emergency power generator to get the freight elevator working (this included hand-pumping a couple of drums of fuel into the tank), and a whole lot of other crap Not gonna bore you with the mundane. Then we had to take a router down to city hall to try to get the city rolling on their internet. That included wading through water. God, the city is a mess when you head down Poydras that way. The Superdome looks like the Jenin refugee camp. God help this city. Whether or not it ought to be rebuilt is secondary to the real issue: can it be rebuilt? Looking around, I wouldn't know where or how to start. Good luck with that.Update: if you're having trouble connecting to the primary or backup feeds, here is a third: http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Housing NEws from FEMA
I didn't hear that!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"oakdorf"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:saidFEMADirector"weplanonbussingthesefolkstoAsburyParkandHousethemintheCasinoandConventionHall..."LAterintheday,whenconfrontedbyCNNreporters"wehadnoknowledgethecasinonortheoceanfrontwasinsuchshape"Here'stohopingthebodycountdoesn'tcontinuetorise,daysafter.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] New Orleans Update
I want to know why these people are being called "refugees"? Refugees are non-citizens! They are "evacuees"! There are no Haitians, Puerto ricans or Dominicans like residents here in AP. These people are the descendants of French, Indian, Spanish who "settled" New Orleans in the 1700's! Refugees? NOT! CUBANS are refugees, not native-born citizens who have lived in Louisiana for over 450 years! I am indignant as it is my home town and people are being shuttled like cattle, separated from their babies, just like slavery! I say Impeach Bush and fire that FEMA director! 5 days with no food and water! I survived Hurricane Betsy in 1965 with 5 ft of water in my kitchen downstairs. I survived Camille in 1969, without a scratch, on St. Anthony St., which is now under water. I found out that in 1965 the levee was blasted on purpose in the 9th Ward, which is ALL-Black to save white Metarie, Was the levee blasted this time to get rid of all the Blacks? 500 Black people drowned that night! We are expendable! Can you say, "IMMINENT DOMAIN"? Blacks are real savvy to the dealings of racist whites in the south! There's not too much wool you can pull over thier eyes! The Federal government was asked for funds after a dry run on this type of tradgedy a year ago! The government saud, NO! The money was sent to IRAQ! The 165 year old home of former White Citizens Council Member, trent Lott will be rebuilt, FIRST! New Orleans is 78% Black, Asbury Park is 80% Black. Watch what happens to New Orleans and Asbury Park will be dealt the same, only on a smaller scale! Nothing changes! Spare me your comments! A Strong Black WomanSharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: FROM MY DOMAIN SERVER CREW IN NEW ORLEANS: POSTED BY KEVIN BROWN The Real NewsThe following is the result of an interview I just conducted via cell phone with a New Orleans citizen stranded at the Convention Center. I don't know what you're hearing in the mainstream media or in the press conferences from the city and state officials, but here is the truth:"Bigfoot" is a bar manager and DJ on Bourbon Street, and is a local personality and icon in the city. He is a lifelong resident of the city, born and raised. He rode out the storm itself in the Iberville Projects because he knew he would be above any flood waters. Here is his story as told to me moments ago. I took notes while he talked and then I asked some questions: Three days ago, police and national guard troops told citizens to head toward the Crescent City Connection Bridge to await transportation out of the area. The citizens trekked over to the Convention Center and waited for the buses which they were told would take them to Houston or Alabama or somewhere else, out of this area. It's been 3 days, and the buses have yet to appear. Although obviously he has no exact count, he estimates more than 10,000 people are packed into and around and outside the convention center still waiting for the buses. They had no food, no water, and no medicine for the last three days, until today, when the National Guard drove over the bridge above them, and tossed out supplies over the side crashing down to the ground below. Much of the supplies were destroyed from the drop. Many people tried to catch the supplies to protect them before they hit the ground. Some offered to walk all the way around up the bridge and bring the supplies down, but any attempt to approach the police or national guard resulted in weapons being aimed at them.There are many infants and elderly people among them, as well as many people who were injured jumping out of windows to escape flood water and the like -- all of them in dire straights. Any attempt to flag down police results in being told to get away at gunpoint. Hour after hour they watch buses pass by filled with people from other areas. Tensions are very high, and there has been at least one murder and several fights. 8 or 9 dead people have been stored in a freezer in the area, and 2 of these dead people are kids. The people are so desperate that they're doing anything they can think of to impress the authorities enough to bring some buses. These things include standing in single file lines with the eldery in front, women and children next; sweeping up the area and cleaning the windows and anything else that would show the people are not barbarians.The buses never stop.Before the supplies were pitched off the bridge today, people had to break into buildings in the area to try to find food and water for their families. There was not enough. This spurred many families to break into cars to try to escape the city. There was no police response to the auto thefts until the mob reached the rich area -- Saulet Condos -- once they tried to get cars from there... well then the whole swat teams began showing up with rifles pointed. Snipers got on the roof and told people to get back. He reports that the conditions are horrendous. Heat, mosquitoes and utter misery. The smell, he says, is
Re: [AsburyPark] SONNY BOY
I'm feeling you, Sandy!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Justthink,aftertwodaysofvacationfourdaysofverysincerespeechesphotoops,sonnyboywillbearrivingintheGulfcoasttoday.Thatmeanshewillgettherebeforeallthedesparatlyneededhelphehasbeensayingisontheway.Wellmaybeit'sbeenontheway.Butonthewaytowhere,Iraq.Ifitwasgoingthere,itwouldhavearriveddaysago.OurownMichaelChertoff-headofhomelandsecurity,whichnowoverseesFEMA.Thisisthefirsttimeinmylifetime(andIwon'tsaywhatthatis,hehe)thatFEMAwasn'tinaneededdisasterareawithin24hrs.Andthiswasadisasterwesawcomingfordaysandshouldhavebeenpreparedandjustingsittingoutsidethedangerzonetomoverightintoaction.Godhelpusifwearehitwithanotherterroristattack.SonnyboyandlittleMickeyChertoffwillprobablyhideoutinCrawford.I'monaroll.Ihavetorant!Moretocome.Iwon'ttakeitpersonallyifyoujustSKIPovermyrants.Pleaseprayforthevictimsofthehurricane.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Dear Sandy, You give the people of New Orleans no credit! the majority of Blacks OWN their homes, are Black Professionals and RUN the City! You don't have a clue how much power they have! They have a creep for a governor and she will be ONE-term, if not, they'll ignore her anyway! If they threaten these people WHEN they return home and they will, developers will have a FIGHT on their hands! See what happens when you treat people like savages, what happens? This is not the usual behavior of ordinary blacks! No food, no water, no rescue for 5 days! Condi Rice is an Aunty Tomasita! What a B! She does NOT speak for ANY Black Person here or in the South! All I can say is the Blacks will RE-TAKE their city! No Gays or Whites can overcome THEM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WethepeopleofAsburyParkdoherebyreleveyouofyourobligationstotheCityofAsburyParkinyourcontracttore-developeourwaterfront.(Notthatyouhaveanyfutureplans,anyway).Sinceweknowwhatagreathumanitarianorganiztionthatyouare,wearelettingtooutofyourcontractsothatyoumaygototheGulfstatestoredeveloptheircoastline.Youwon'thavetoworryabouttoomucheminentdomainissuesordemolishingofproperty.ThereareonlyafewMINORproblemsyouwillfacebuttheywillbenothingcomparedtowhatyoufacedinAsburyPark(Iwon'tnameanynamesonthisboard).WellGodspeedandGoodriddence-yourfriendsforeverinAsburyPark!Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] ONE MAN'S OPINION
In their dry, comfortable, homes! Where else? If these people were white, I wouldn't be writing this! Racism is alive and well in this country and they assumed Blacks are ALL from the ghetto! NOT!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I spent the last three days concerned about the people of theGulf Coast. Before that I spent my days concerned about the people on the Jersey Coast. One thing that is troubling me tonight. With all the countries we have run into in the last 20 years with humanitarian aid and Marines, Rangers, Delta and Tac Assault Teams to protect Eastern Europe, Africa, Asia, India, etc... Where are they? Have they loaded ships and airplanes and sent them to Our Country? Where is the United Nations? Have their police departments sent equipment and personnel to sure up the local police departments "running on empty"? Where is Bono, Bruce, John, PaulCher, Bruce Willis, so on and so forth? Tonight I am going to sleep under the protection of my clear conscience and in the comfort of my own home. Tomorrow their will be other traumas and critical situations to think about. Thank you Lord for another day. Be merciful to us all. Rev. Kevin Brown Lighthouse Mission Long Branch, NJ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] New Orleans Update
Kevin, You need to send this report in to CNN and cspan.com. This is dynamite! People have been desperate just for water, alone! This is inhumane and indecent!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: All my web names are registered with a company based in New Orleans. I have been in constant communication with them. They are a courageous bunch and dedicated to keeping our domain name servers up and running. Our actual web servers are in California and unaffected by the hurricane. However if the domain name servers go down all our sites are down. These are the names I use lighthousemission.org lighthousemission.com j-e-s-u-s.com lbnj.com lbtoday.com longbranch.net .info .tv longbranchnj.com asburypark.com asburyparknj.com asburyparkcity.com asburyparkvideo.com electricnews.com freelongbranch.com there are others. However these are those providing current info in the respected web sites. Because of this I have been connected to a person in a building located in the heart of the disaster. The following is an actual post from the New Orleans Area from very reliable and credible source. Situtation is critical.I'm not leaving, so stop asking. I'm staying. I am staying until this shitstorm has blown itself out. Period. End of discussion. If anyone who works for or has connections with Bell South or Telcove is reading this, tell us what it's going to take to get those OC3s back up and running. We will try to coordinate and make it happen. My first tactical mistake. We were unprepared to accept the fuel when it arrived. The fuel arrived way too soon for us and we did not have all the empty drums down one ground floor when they got here. The driver had other deliveries to make, so rather than waste his time, I told him we'd recoordinate and be ready for him later today or tomorrow. That's the bad news. Here's the worse news:All of our providers are dropping. We're down to one. We have enough fuel to keep us powered for a long time, but we could lose internet access soon if our last provider drops. So I guess what I'm saying is that any moment could be my last moment online. If we do lose internet, Outpost Crystal might have to be abandoned by all but Sig and Myself. I've got to get Crystal out of here safely and relocated to someplace out of this state. I'm working on escape routes now. Now for some updates:1. Been too busy to debrief the police officer, so that will come later. Low priority now.2. Buses loading people up on Camp Street to take refugees to Dallas, or so the word on the street (literally) is.3. Dead bodies everywhere: convention center, down camp street, all over.4. National Guard shoving water off the backs of trucks. They're just pushing it off without stopping, people don't even know it's there at first -- they drop it on the side in debris, there's no sign or distribution point -- people are scared to go near it at first, because the drop points are guarded by troops or federal agents with assault rifles who don't let people come near them, which scares people off. It is a mess. When people actually get to the water, they are in such a rush to get it that one family left their small child behind and forget about him until Sig carried him back to the family end I am not worried about my web sitesgoing down - se le vie' Let us keep these people in our thoughts and prayers. I have instructed our advanced team to head home and had to wire them some money as they had to pay as much as 5.50 a gallon for gas today. I will continue to provide info via email as aol is ok for now. Reverend Kevin Brown Lighthouse Mission - Long Branch Operating The Long Branch Network The Electric News.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Not vilifying anyone! Knew one of you would be offended though! You're like Jews who think that the Holocaust gives you an excuse to do anything YOU want! Blacks are STILL waiting to be liberated! You compare your cause with ours. I think not! yours is a lifestyle, ours is a matte of race and access. You can still be a white man if you want! I don't have a choice in being Black! Are you tolerant? Bet if I come into the Club Paradise,by the beach, I'll be as welcome as a sore thumb! No STRAIGHTS ALLOWED! Don't care if you're gay. Doesn't bother me a bit! You want acceptance, Blacks want ACCESS and Equal Rights, Fair Housing, Affordable housing and Education!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At9:11PM+9/2/05,SharonG.Boonewrote:...AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!Sonowcitiesbelongtospecificracesofpeople?NicewaytocooperatethereSharon...Happytoseeit'sstillsafeinyourworldtovilifygays!...Youdoknowthatyourhero"sandy"isagayperson,right?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
I'll bet! While the others roll their eyes at me and leer at my husband! He's quite a hunk! My husband would never come there. He's homophobic and admits it!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:I'llmeetyouatParadise,orany"gay"club/baranytimeyouwant.I'llstandbehindyouatthebarandwitnessthatthey'llgladlytakeyourmoney.(Yourmoneyisgreen,right?)Thenyoucanturnaroundandtellmeyou'resorryformakingthewildaccusationsyouaremakingbelow.~joeAt9:42PM+9/2/05,SharonG.Boonewrote:Notvilifyinganyone!Knewoneofyouwouldbeoffendedthough!You'relikeJewswhothinkthattheHolocaustgivesyouanexcusetodoanythingYOUwant!BlacksareSTILLwaitingtobeliberated!Youcompareyourcausewithours.Ithinknot!yoursisalifestyle,oursisamatteofraceandaccess.Youcanstillbeawhitemanifyouwant!Idon'thaveachoiceinbeingBlack!Areyoutolerant?BetifIcomeintotheClubParadise,bythebeach,I'llbeaswelcomeasasorethumb!NoSTRAIGHTSALLOWED!Don'tcareifyou'regay.Doesn'tbothermeabit!Youwantacceptance,BlackswantACCESSandEqualRights,FairHousing,AffordablehousingandEducation!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re:(2) [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Are you a lawyer? Can you read my mind? Intentional means, I meant to do it, on purpose! Take it whichever way you want. I just knew you would! Predictable! Leave me alone! Pick on those who don't like you for what you are. Like I said, YOU can STILL be WHITE! You're a Black-Hater!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At9:42PM+9/2/05,SharonG.Boonewrote:Notvilifyinganyone!Knewoneofyouwouldbeoffendedthough!Oh,Isee.YouintentionallyputaphraseinyourmessagethatyouknewwouldbeoffensivetosomepeoplewhoaremembersofthisYahoocommunity.Niceone.~joeYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Have a previous enggement!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At9:58PM+9/2/05,SharonG.Boonewrote:I'llbet!Whiletheothersrolltheireyesatmeandleeratmyhusband!He'squiteahunk!Myhusbandwouldnevercomethere.He'shomophobicandadmitsit!Wellifhe'shomophobicthenit'sbesthedoesn'tcomealongwithus.Whendoyouwanttogo?ThepoolatParadiseisopenduringthedaythisweekendandtheweatherpromisestobewonderful.ShallIpickyouupordoyouwanttomeetmethere?~joeYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Do not rebuild. Agree with JJ
So tell that to Chicago and San Francisco, or better, Asbury Park!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"oakdorf"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:NotonlynotrebuildallofNorleans,butalsoanyhousethatwasbuiltonsticks.LikeonewoemnsaidonCNNlastnight".thisisonlythe3rdtimein35yearswe'verebuild'Orsomeoneelse'wedidacostbenefitanalysis-webuiltthesewallsforacat3hurricane..."YOucouldseethemathhere(jj,thisisyourarea...).Savingallofthatareaisnuts.Goahead,buildonthebeach.We'vehadhalf-assstormsthatdumpedsandonthebwandoceanave.TheCasinoandCHsurvivedbetterthentheytheydotodayundertotalneglectunderfatherAsbury.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] New Orleans Update
Kevin, you said, "You were told." Well, I saw the inmates sitting on the overpass, heavily guarded, so it wasn't the inmates. Are you crazy? Do you think New Orleans is run by a savage? The man was just elected back in November, as was the governor! Marc Morial was the mayor prior to that and Sidney Barthelemy before him! Marc's father "Dutch" was my attorney and the 1st Black Mayor. You know so little about the "real" New Orleans. You go there to "redeem" who? The tourists? New Orleans is predominantly Catholic and civilized under "normal" circumstances. You've "assumed" a lot about the residents there. I'm upset because if I said that Long Branch is filled with low-life drug dealers, poor Blacks and Puerto Ricans, I'd sound biased. I beleive all people are inherently good! The stories are overblown due to lack of communications. I beleive the feds are building a good excuse for "martial law"! This is a good test case for the "concentration camps" to come! Calling American Citizens, "refugees", which they are not! They are Citizens, not something in off the street! These people work, pray and play in "the Crescent City", not The Big Easy as some like to call it! You need to study the history and culture before you label everybody! To say I'm upset is an understatement.SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I sent a lead team down to New Orleans and they called in tonight. Just about 30 minutes ago. I have two special and close people (One is Family) and she lived in New Orleans for a couple of years. On this special assignment. I was told the jails were releasing inmates and warning people to get out of the city. Today they saw street gangs walking around with automatic weapons. AK 47 machine guns and things of that nature. The city is in total chaos. The officials they met with told them not to send things into the city but to use the red cross. They are now heading west to check out Biloxi. Rev. Kevin Brown Lighthouse Mission YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Sandy, no offense taken! I was upset when the responder said you were gay, then I felt apologetic because I don't want to offend anyone! Gay or straight! Blacks say the Gays want to "takeover" Asbury Park and squeeze the Blacks out! Not my words! Just repeating! I hear it all the time! I really don't have an opinion on where gays choose to live. Don't care! My daughter has gay neighbors and they are warm and caring, which was why I said, "no flames" in my last post! I don't care what you say here, someone will get offended. What I'm trying to say is, don't care what you are, man/woman/straight/gay. I enjoy your posts!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sharon,Imsorrythatyoudidn'tseethatIwasmakingfunofA.Pandnotthevictimsofthegulfcoast.Myheartisbreakingforthepeopledownthere.Noneofusshouldhavetowaitthislongforaidinthatheat.Iapoligizeifyouareoffended.Myprayersarewithallthevictimsofthisnaturaldisaster.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:DearSandy,YougivethepeopleofNewOrleansnocredit!themajorityofBlacksOWNtheirhomes,areBlackProfessionalsandRUNtheCity!Youdon'thaveacluehowmuchpowertheyhave!TheyhaveacreepforagovernorandshewillbeONE-term,ifnot,they'llignoreheranyway!IftheythreatenthesepeopleWHENtheyreturnhomeandtheywill,developerswillhaveaFIGHTontheirhands!Seewhathappenswhenyoutreatpeoplelikesavages,whathappens?Thisisnottheusualbehaviorofordinaryblacks!Nofood,nowater,norescuefor5days!CondiRiceisanAuntyTomasita!WhataB!ShedoesNOTspeakforANYBlackPersonhereorintheSouth!AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WethepeopleofAsburyParkdoherebyreleveyouofyourobligationstotheCityofAsburyParkinyourcontracttore-developeourwaterfront.(Notthatyouhaveanyfutureplans,anyway).Sinceweknowwhatagreathumanitarianorganiztionthatyouare,wearelettingtooutofyourcontractsothatyoumaygototheGulfstatestoredeveloptheircoastline.Youwon'thavetoworryabouttoomucheminentdomainissuesordemolishingofproperty.ThereareonlyafewMINORproblemsyouwillfacebuttheywillbenothingcomparedtowhatyoufacedinAsburyPark(Iwon'tnameanynamesonthisboard).WellGodspeedandGoodriddence-yourfriendsforeverinAsburyPark!Yahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New Orleans Update
A refugee is a foreigner! To call us that is to say we are NOT citizens! The people were "evacuated". They are "evacuees"! been in this country longer than some people in this forum! It sickens me to be marginalized! If gays want the same rights as Blacks, "come and get 'em"!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Unfortunatelytheyarebeingcalled"refugees"becausetheyareblack.Doyouthinkthatiftheywereoilbaronssonnyboywouldonlybegettingthetroopswithsuppliestheretoday?Fourdaysafterthefact!---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Iwanttoknowwhythesepeoplearebeingcalled"refugees"?Refugeesarenon-citizens!Theyare"evacuees"!TherearenoHaitians,PuertoricansorDominicanslikeresidentshereinAP.ThesepeoplearethedescendantsofFrench,Indian,Spanishwho"settled"NewOrleansinthe1700's!Refugees?NOT!CUBANSarerefugees,notnative-borncitizenswhohavelivedinLouisianaforover450years!Iamindignantasitismyhometownandpeoplearebeingshuttledlikecattle,separatedfromtheirbabies,justlikeslavery!IsayImpeachBushandfirethatFEMAdirector!5dayswithnofoodandwater!IsurvivedHurricaneBetsyin1965with5ftofwaterinmykitchendownstairs.IsurvivedCamillein1969,withoutascratch,onSt.AnthonySt.,whichisnowunderwater.Ifoundoutthatin1965theleveewasblastedonpurposeinthe9thWard,whichisALL-BlacktosavewhiteMetarie,WastheleveeblastedthistimetogetridofalltheBlacks?500Blackpeopledrownedthatnight!Weareexpendable!Canyousay,"IMMINENTDOMAIN"?Blacksarerealsavvytothedealingsofracistwhitesinthesouth!There'snottoomuchwoolyoucanpulloverthiereyes!TheFederalgovernmentwasaskedforfundsafteradryrunonthistypeoftradgedyayearago!Thegovernmentsaud,NO!ThemoneywassenttoIRAQ!The165yearoldhomeofformerWhiteCitizensCouncilMember,trentLottwillberebuilt,FIRST!NewOrleansis78%Black,AsburyParkis80%Black.WatchwhathappenstoNewOrleansandAsburyParkwillbedealtthesame,onlyonasmallerscale!Nothingchanges!Sparemeyourcomments!AStrongBlackWomanSharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL
Re: [AsburyPark] pandora's box
So why don't you get your white sheet out and your crosses?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--traderdube[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Lightywrote..."voiceoftheENTIREtown..."OnlywaytoomanyofthevoicesoftheentiretownaremuchlikethebottomfeedingscumsuckingpigsthatarelootingshopsandhomesalongtheKatrinaravagedGulfCoast.ThevoicesofsensibilityandreasonneedtoriseasoneanddemandthattheCityofAsburyParkstopslootingthetaxrevenuesandothermoniesthatcomeacrosstheircoffersandgivetolawenforcementsothatthestreetthugsandderelictsthatdragAPdowncanbedealtwithruthlessly.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] MSNBC TELETHON
Can't have that, huh?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:SingerKayeWestwasjustcutofftheairbecausehesaid"GeorgeBushdoesn'tcareaboutblackpeople".Didhethinkhewastellingussomethingwedidn'tknowalready?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: MSNBC TELETHON
Sandy, Don't know! I guess I'd better turn it on. Listening to CNN and looking for relatives that I haven't heard from yet. Mind on something else. SorrySharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:HeySharon!IguessKayewillslamdownthephoneonKatieCuricwhenshecallshimnextsummertodoafree"TodayShow"concert!LOL---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Can'thavethat,huh?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:SingerKayeWestwasjustcutofftheairbecausehesaid"GeorgeBushdoesn'tcareaboutblackpeople".Didhethinkhewastellingussomethingwedidn'tknowalready?Yahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] butch saunders
Thought I read 33 months in the paper. Did I miss something?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You know why he's not being sentenced yet SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Are you telling me they haven't?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:EverybodywantstotakeoverAsburyPark,esp.thecrookedpolititions.!---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sandy,nooffensetaken!Iwasupsetwhentherespondersaidyouweregay,thenIfeltapologeticbecauseIdon'twanttooffendanyone!Gayorstraight!BlackssaytheGayswantto"takeover"AsburyParkandsqueezetheBlacksout!Notmywords!Justrepeating!Ihearitallthetime!Ireallydon'thaveanopiniononwheregayschoosetolive.Don'tcare!Mydaughterhasgayneighborsandtheyarewarmandcaring,whichwaswhyIsaid,"noflames"inmylastpost!Idon'tcarewhatyousayhere,someonewillgetoffended.WhatI'mtryingtosayis,don'tcarewhatyouare,man/woman/straight/gay.Ienjoyyourposts!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sharon,Imsorrythatyoudidn'tseethatIwasmakingfunofA.Pandnotthevictimsofthegulfcoast.Myheartisbreakingforthepeopledownthere.Noneofusshouldhavetowaitthislongforaidinthatheat.Iapoligizeifyouareoffended.Myprayersarewithallthevictimsofthisnaturaldisaster.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:DearSandy,YougivethepeopleofNewOrleansnocredit!themajorityofBlacksOWNtheirhomes,areBlackProfessionalsandRUNtheCity!Youdon'thaveacluehowmuchpowertheyhave!TheyhaveacreepforagovernorandshewillbeONE-term,ifnot,they'llignoreheranyway!IftheythreatenthesepeopleWHENtheyreturnhomeandtheywill,developerswillhaveaFIGHTontheirhands!Seewhathappenswhenyoutreatpeoplelikesavages,whathappens?Thisisnottheusualbehaviorofordinaryblacks!Nofood,nowater,norescuefor5days!CondiRiceisanAuntyTomasita!WhataB!ShedoesNOTspeakforANYBlackPersonhereorintheSouth!AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WethepeopleofAsburyParkdoherebyreleveyouofyourobligationstotheCityofAsburyParkinyourcontracttore-developeourwaterfront.(Notthatyouhaveanyfutureplans,anyway).Sinceweknowwhatagreathumanitarianorganiztionthatyouare,wearelettingtooutofyourcontractsothatyoumaygototheGulfstatestoredeveloptheircoastline.Youwon'thavetoworryabouttoomucheminentdomainissuesordemolishingofproperty.ThereareonlyafewMINORproblemsyouwillfacebuttheywillbenothingcomparedtowhatyoufacedinAsburyPark(Iwon'tnameanynamesonthisboard).WellGodspeedandGoodriddence-yourfriendsforeverinAsburyPark!Yahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Academic Symposium on Bruce
What's wrong with being a progressive liberal? I'm one and proud of it! To be liberal is to be FREE! To be conservative is to be restrictive, limited, narrowminded and afraid of science! Butterflys are Free and so am I! Proud of it too! What are you afraid of? Scared one of us will get your job? Spot in school? Won't work with professional women? What? To call yourself a conservative is souther code-talk for segregationists, afraid of Jews, Blacks and Others from mixing. don't like mixing, huh?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"bluebishop82"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Provingmypointthatday-trippingtourismwillhappenherewhetherweaskforitornot,500academicsarecomingtothePony.Residencesontheotherhandwon'tjustbuildthemselves-youhavetohavearedevelopmentplanconcentratingonthem.Bytheway,pleaseletmeknowthedaypointy-headedacademicknow-it-allliberalsconsumedbytheconceptofMarxismwillbeintownsoIcanremembernottobeherethatday.If2centsofmykids'collegetuitiongetsspentonastudyofatheallimportantCommunism/SpringsteenconnectionIwillpullthemoutofschool!---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"jerseyjohn99"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050830/us_nm/life_springsteen_dcNEWYORK(Reuters)-"AMarxistPerspectiveon'DarknessontheEdgeofTown"'and"TheBossandtheBible"areamongtheacademicpaperstobepresentedwhenaNewJerseyuniversityhostsanacademicsymposiumdevotedentirelytoBruceSpringsteen.Morethan150papersbyacademicsfromacrosstheUnitedStates,Sweden,Canada,ItalyandBritainwillbepresentedatthesymposium,dissectingeverythingfromthesinger'spatriotismtohisruminationsoftheworkingmanAHEMorethan500peopleareexpectedtoattendtheevent,whichwillincludeoutingstotheStonePony,thefabledmusicvenuewhereSpringsteenfirstairedhisspecialbrandofrock.(gee...500professorsmakingbigbucksarecomingtothePony.Iwonderiftheyareplanningtospendanymoneywhiletheyareintown???Anddon'ttheyrealizeBrucedidn'tevengethisstartatthePony,andforhistoricalaccuracytheyshouldgotoCruisin'instead?)AHE.Springsteenisnotthefirstmusiciantobehonoredbyanacademicconferencerevolvingaroundhiswork.TheBeatleshaveinspiredsimilaracademicefforts.(Yeah,Ipaid10poundsfortheLiverpoolMagicalMysteryTour,andforanother15quidIhadmyhaircutpicturetakenonPennyLane.Butofcourse,itwasarebuiltCavernClubitwasn'tthesamebarberthatwascuttinghairbackintheearly'60s,soinsomepeople'smindsIshouldhavejustgonetoLiverpooltoadmiretheboxesboxesofluxurycondos).Quick,someonehelpmespraypaintchunksofcinderblocksneongreensellthemfor$20eachthatweekend.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park real estate Asbury park Seaside resort YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Funny, I thought it was a done deal!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Ihearthey'reworkingonitstill!:~)---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Areyoutellingmetheyhaven't?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:EverybodywantstotakeoverAsburyPark,esp.thecrookedpolititions.!---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sandy,nooffensetaken!Iwasupsetwhentherespondersaidyouweregay,thenIfeltapologeticbecauseIdon'twanttooffendanyone!Gayorstraight!BlackssaytheGayswantto"takeover"AsburyParkandsqueezetheBlacksout!Notmywords!Justrepeating!Ihearitallthetime!Ireallydon'thaveanopiniononwheregayschoosetolive.Don'tcare!Mydaughterhasgayneighborsandtheyarewarmandcaring,whichwaswhyIsaid,"noflames"inmylastpost!Idon'tcarewhatyousayhere,someonewillgetoffended.WhatI'mtryingtosayis,don'tcarewhatyouare,man/woman/straight/gay.Ienjoyyourposts!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Sharon,Imsorrythatyoudidn'tseethatIwasmakingfunofA.Pandnotthevictimsofthegulfcoast.Myheartisbreakingforthepeopledownthere.Noneofusshouldhavetowaitthislongforaidinthatheat.Iapoligizeifyouareoffended.Myprayersarewithallthevictimsofthisnaturaldisaster.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:DearSandy,YougivethepeopleofNewOrleansnocredit!themajorityofBlacksOWNtheirhomes,areBlackProfessionalsandRUNtheCity!Youdon'thaveacluehowmuchpowertheyhave!TheyhaveacreepforagovernorandshewillbeONE-term,ifnot,they'llignoreheranyway!IftheythreatenthesepeopleWHENtheyreturnhomeandtheywill,developerswillhaveaFIGHTontheirhands!Seewhathappenswhenyoutreatpeoplelikesavages,whathappens?Thisisnottheusualbehaviorofordinaryblacks!Nofood,nowater,norescuefor5days!CondiRiceisanAuntyTomasita!WhataB!ShedoesNOTspeakforANYBlackPersonhereorintheSouth!AllIcansayistheBlackswillRE-TAKEtheircity!NoGaysorWhitescanovercomeTHEM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WethepeopleofAsburyParkdoherebyreleveyouofyourobligationstotheCityofAsburyParkinyourcontracttore-developeourwaterfront.(Notthatyouhaveanyfutureplans,anyway).Sinceweknowwhatagreathumanitarianorganiztionthatyouare,wearelettingtooutofyourcontractsothatyoumaygototheGulfstatestoredeveloptheircoastline.Youwon'thavetoworryabouttoomucheminentdomainissuesordemolishingofproperty.ThereareonlyafewMINORproblemsyouwillfacebuttheywillbenothingcomparedtowhatyoufacedinAsburyPark(Iwon'tnameanynamesonthisboard).WellGodspeedandGoodriddence-yourfriendsforeverinAsburyPark!Yahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: ATTENTION ASBURY PARTNERS
Not touching this one but you assume a lot! You know what assume does, huh? Assume makes an ass out of u and me!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--JoeD'Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:At12:25AM+9/3/05,sandywrote:HeyJoe,Youdon'tknowifimstraightorgay,whiteorblackorwhateverorifimmaleorfemale.NowthatIoffendedyouagain,Iguessyou'llgobacktotheothersiteandcomplainaboutmeagain.Youdon'tknowme.Growuplittleman.Youryahooprofilesaysyouarea21year-oldfemale.Andyou'dhavetobeeithergayorlesbiantobeamemberofwhatyourefertoas"theothersite."AmIwrong?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: butch saunders
Answer: Butch is going to Jail for conspiracy. What did he conspire? Were you at court to hear te testimony? Then you're speculating. Martha Stewart went to jail for lying! Not under oath, just lying! Butch wasn't found with 50 grand in his pocket nor someone holding 20 more for him! His ehind is STILL walking around. Why? His case had nothing to do with Butch Saunders, nothing! Condos is doing his time and Ray is in Colorado doing time. There are those in City Hall that OUGHT to be doing time but aren't!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--"Jim"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:WhileIhavezeroinsideinfo,I'dbetmybottomdollarhe'scooperating.---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"sandy"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:Butchwasre-sentencedtodaytoserve30monthsinFederalprison.Hemustsurrenderwithin90days.WhydoNJpoliticalcrooksgetsuchsmallsentencesforthecrimestheycommitagainstuspoortaxpayers?Whyisitthatjerry"theweasel"weldonisstillwalkingaroundafreeman?Thefedssayheisnotco-operating.Anyoneknowthestory?~~THATSAGOODQUESTION.JamesP.GrabeVeteransAllianceAsburyParkN.J.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: rock the boat...don't rock - independent council
No Werner, I wasn't directing it to you but you gave the answer I was looking for and I thank you. I did find some documentation online. Very informative. What I meant is, I make a statement and I get 5-7 different answers from well meaning and some NOT so well meaning individuals. Overall, the information I pick up here is positive for the most part. It's ironic that after being here for a couple of days, I read items in the Coaster and the Tri-City News that may have been posted here and I find that also a good thing. I think that the group here is knowledgeable, informative and really the best thing going because at least here you can voice your concern rather than be disrespected and shouted down at a council meeting or seen as a pariah and against the grain of the status quo. No, wasn't directed at you. You may not remember me, but we've met and I found you a very affable and likable person. I really appreciate what you do for this town and urge you to stay at it. It's great to see you here! Stay well, SharonSharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"wernerapnj\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Ijustthoughtsomeoneinthisaudiencewouldgiveasynopsisofit.Somepeopleheregetflippantwhenyouhavetheaudacitytoaskthehardquestions.Wernerapnjhadsaid:TheMasterPlanconsistsofseveraldocumentsthatareavailableatCityHall.It'scurrentlybeingreviewedandwilleventuallybeamended.Ifyouorsomeoneelseinthegroupgets/hasacopyI'mwillingtoscanandpostiton-line.Sharon,I'mnotsureifyourremarkisdirectedatme.Ifso,myanswerwashardlyintendedas'flippant'.YourquestionabouttheMasterPlanisveryimportant,unfortunatelytheanswerisimpossibletogiveinasynopsis.Onecanask-whatistheCity'smasterplan?-inaphilosophicalcontextandtheanswerwouldbe-tomaketheCityabetterplace.TechnicallytheMasterPlanisastatutorysetofguidelinesanddirectionsthatisforwardlookinginnature.Itconsistsofseveraldocumentsthatcollectivelyarecalled'theMasterPlan'.Eachdocumentdealswithaparticularsubject,forexample:LandUseandZoningorTrafficCirculationorRecreationorHistoricPreservation,etc,etc,.It'simpossibletogiveasummaryoroverviewoftheMasterPlan,itisasetofseperatebutinterdependentdocumentsthatformtheguidingpoliciesoftheCity.Thebest(only)waytograspitistoactuallyreadits100'sofpages,hensemyreferingyoutothematCityHall.WernerYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS United state patent United state flag United state patent search Trademark united state United state quarters Asbury park nj YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things
OH! So where did this liquor license materialize from, Uncle Phil? Word is HE owned ALL of the liquor licenses on the shore except, the Legions in Neptune, the VFW in Neptune, The Elks on Asbury Ave., etc., the non-profits and veterans organizations. Don't know if the VFW in Asbury has one or the Sons of Italy. Maybe they got the license from the Redwood, but I heard the Redwood is about to reopen. Oh, the Redwood was owned by Vance Funderberk, a Black man and he DID own his license, also. So, where did the Tiki Bar get the money, UEZ? Just kidding! Thanks! I think I like you!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"sandy\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:-CHisConventionHall.ThereferenceistotheliquorlicensebeingusedbyAsburyPartnersattheTikiBar.HowboutthelicenseforClubDeep?APPartnerssaidtheywantedafamilyBWandthefirstthingtheydidwasopentwoalcoholestablishments.Butnoridesforthekiddies.GOFIGURE!--InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:I'mconfused.WhoisCHandwhereisthelicenseorthelocation?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"oakdorf\"wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"wrote:Oak:Actually,OceanCityhascondosontopofthierboardwalkpavillions.Iwishwehadthemhere.Theviews!Theratables!Year-roundactivityatthebeach!Youcan'tbeserious.Notneeded.Howaboutcleaninguptheentiretownbeforeembarkingonblockingtheocean.Whileyou'reatit,changethenameofoceanave-afterall,youwon'tbeabletoseeit.(theocean)how'daliquorlicenscthatneverexistedeverwindupatCHanyway,tomYahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things
Sounds like they want a "Little Miami" here! All we need is the Art Deco look, but wait, we do! CH, is Art Deco but they tore everything else down except the Casino! Of course they want to retain the 70's flavor of the Stone Pony. Don't know why, because ALL kinds of entertainment has come to CH and the Paramount! THEY were the venues that MOST artists sought to get into, rather than the small, cramped, Pony. My opinion. Club Paradise is a good example of the Miami-fication of Asbury with its' lighting effects and it's disco-type/Latin? sound? Just guessing. Never been there. Heard they don't like straights there, but it's a bit over my head anyway. If I walked in, they'd say, "Where's Grandma going"? No, I hang with a laid-back crowd. The slow-jams and oldies group/jazz funkies! Oh well, different strokes!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--charlieleonard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: "-CH is Convention Hall. The reference is to the liquor license being used by Asbury Partners at the Tiki Bar. How bout the license for Club Deep? AP Partners said they wanted a family BW and the first thing they did was open two alcohol establishments. But no rides for the kiddies. GO FIGURE!" they also said, familys would be encourged during the day, but at night it would be a different situation (bars, clubs dont usally get as much attention as they do at night) there are no rides, and i dont think there will be? unless they change their minds about that. or if a developer comes along, who wants to. then i guess maybe they would allow it. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1395
I forgot about the paint store. I forgot the names of the Kids store on Cookman and Bond and there was a Thom McAnn where the Koreans are now. Oh, and J.J. Newberry's! The little restaurant where the Black Box is, too! It all comes back! Lerner's was downtown, also. Asbury had EVERYTHING! 2 drugstores, 3 dime stores, Chi-Chi Boutiques, smaller more affordable boutiques, where Larry Lawson's Mom worked! People looked like you and if they didn't, they knew you as a regular, in their stores. I was NEVER followed around like they do, now, which I totally ignore them because I never enter a store if I don't have the plastic OR the cash! I've never been a thief and wouldn't know where to start, now! The NEW people, running around calling themselves the Association, guild, merchant's whatever, were NOT here through the lean years and they think they know what makes Asbury Park tick! Blacks grew up with the whites, went to school together, and no, it wasn't perfect, but you understood what the game, was. Any whites caught on the Ave., stuck out like a sore thumb, so to ask why white kids are in a particular neighborhood, unless they were delivering Pizza, speak VOLUMES! All of the pseudo-historians running around labeling themselves as Asbury Park Historians, need to get a hint! The only way you know when something is going on is the DRUM!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"DavidJ.Mieras\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Excellent blow by blow Sharon. The only stores I can think of that somehow weathered the storm are Carl (Mr. Fashion) Felix Fox, the paint store. It's a toss up between Steinbach's the Asbury Park Press regarding the death knell scenario I think. - Original Message ----- From: Sharon G. Boone To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1395 After the riots of July 1970, a mall was built off the Asbury Circle. It opened around 1975, with the Steinbach Store being the anchor, then Sears moved across 66, from where the IHOP is. The main entrance to Sears was there. The closing of Steinbach's on Cookman sounded the death knell of the "old" downtown. The rest of the stores went to Norwood Ave., in Deal, like Pix Shoes. Nahan's and Fischs's moved to Ocean township on Hwy. 35. Nahan's is still where is moved to. Fisch's went out of business. Bob and Irving's, Pix Shoes, the Army /Navy Store on Main St. are where the new Municiple complex is. By 1975, only the Baronet and one other theatre was open. The Savoy on Mattison, closed! The Press Box restaurant, Rexall's, (Sonny's), Bob and David's, Wolco's, the Record store, Mr. Fashion, and a couple of dime stores, Woolworth's, WTGrants and another,were all that was left. Canadian's at Press Plaza closed shortly after. The small boutiques also moved to upscale Deal or Allenhurst. The Bra and Girdle factory were there through the 80's, then they closed by Kennedy Park. Bergers moved to Seaview Square and Dainty Apparel closed. I was a professional shopper back then, with 5 growing children, so I knew where the clothes, shoes, eyeglasses for my kids and Varsity Jackets were, that they HAD to have! First Communion, Confirmation, Buster Brown and Stride Right Shoes were ALL purchased rith there on Cookman, Ave., THE place to be, until the remaining stores shut down, one by one! I never liked Monmouth Mall, so I'd go to Woodbridge and Staten Island to shop for my kids, thereafter, although there was a Stenbach still in Red Bank. Never cared much for Red Bank. Different attitude there if you're Black. The better stores in North Jersey didn't give a rat's ass, as long as your money was green! I liked that! Shopped at AS, Ohrbach's, Stern's and Macy's. Better stuff! Really good service, too.SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"dfsavgny\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> nbsp;wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:JustafewobservationsfromAsburyRadio'stable-And,theyexpressedsuspicionaboutthecity'sdedicationtorestorethelandmarks,becauseofthecurrentappearanceandthetimethat'sgonebysincetheCitystarteditscomeback.Onecoupleaskedhowthecondoscouldbesellingaswellasreported,preconstruction,whenthesurroundingareastilllookedsobad.Iwasbeginningtothinkwewereonlyintheuniverse,butitappearstohavemadecontactwithotherintelligentlifeforms.Thankgoodnesswearenotaloneafterall.Iseethistemperingofenthusiamasbothgoodandbad.Thegoodisthatitbringssomerationality(andperhapsresponsibility)tothetable,muchlikerationalitycomingbacktothestockmarket.Whilehealthyforthelongrun,somemustbearthepain.Likemostrealestateprofessionalsandlaymanalike,Iamwaitingforthebubbletoburst.JustlastweekIhadDonaldTrumpaskmewhatIthoughtwasgoingtohappeninthemarketplace.I lookedathimandsaid,"you'reaskingme,you'reDonaldTrump?"Thatisexactlyhowperplexingithasbeen.Justlikeingolfandaswingattheplate,poorfollowthroughcanruinyourgameinrealestate.Ihavemyfingerscrossedthatthiswillnothap
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: rock the boat...don't rock the boat
I just LOVE the way you do math, Werner.SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"wernerapnj\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:ThanksSharon,Manyofmywarnings,predictions,conclusions,etc.,arenowbecomngalltoobvious.Toobadit'staken4yearsforsomefolkstoseewhat'sbeengoingonhere.Somewillnever'see'.Werner---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Werner,Yousaidamouthful!"HittheheadontheNail","tookthebullbythehorns"andeveryotheroverusedandoverworkedcliche',butyousaiditanditISironic,isn'tIT!IthoughtAaronworkedforthemtoo.Seemslikeitwasintimatedinthisforum,butmaybeI'mconfused,asusual!CorrectmeifI'mwrong,Weldon,Fishman,Aaron+NaiveCityCouncil=LandGrab...Itcertainlylooks'blighted,underutilizedandindisrepair'tome.That'ssomeofthecriteriaunderthestatue.Takethebeachfrontbackandreturnittothetaxpayers.Aproperuseofeminentdomain.Ironic-AsburyPartnersgettingtasteoftheirownmedicine.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS United state patent United state flag United state patent search Trademark united state United state quarters Asbury park nj YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: rock the boat...don't rock - independent council
I just thought someone in this audience would give a synopsis of it. Some people here get flippant when you have the audacity to ask the hard questions. When some get on the council, I've been told I don't understand anything! It's one of the reasons I hate coming to a meeting at City Hall. There is a lack of common decency lacking, like if you ask them a question that puts them on the spot, they get defensive, especially when they've done something perceived as illegal! They never give a straight answer then they start asking around as to who YOU are, who you are ALIGNED with, like you have to be part of a group and heaven forbid, if you're black! You're automatically labeled a "troublemaker", simply for asking the hard questions, like when is construction going to begin? How many minorities, (any color), are going to be hired? What is Asbury Park doing about the illegal immigrants, here? I certainly can't go to Mexico and stay forever! It's against the law and is ILLEGAL! Yet, I see them on roof-tops, ripping or hammering away! The Union hall is on Drummond Ave., in Neptune. Wonder how THEY feel? It's a lot of issues for a small city but the City Manager is being PAID, so he should EARN his high-priced salary! If that were Wilbert Russell, his feet would be held to the fire!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"wernerapnj\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Don'tmeantobefecetious,soIWILLbe.What'stheCity'sMasterPlan?Inthelongrun,what'sthedeal?Please,don'teverybodystampedetotellme!Isitonline?AretheredocumentsIcanlookat?I'mfromMissouri,ShowMe!TheMasterPlanconsistsofseveraldocumentsthatareavailableatCityHall.It'scurrentlybeingreviewedandwilleventuallybeamended.Ifyouorsomeoneelseinthegroupgets/hasacopyI'mwillingtoscanandpostiton-line.WernerYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1395
In Asbury, ANYTHING is possible!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"oakdorf\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Ithoughtitwas2attorneyswith3opinionsYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things
I'm confused. Who is CH and where is the license or the location?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"oakdorf\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Oak:Actually,OceanCityhascondosontopofthierboardwalkpavillions.Iwishwehadthemhere.Theviews!Theratables!Year-roundactivityatthebeach!Youcan'tbeserious.Notneeded.Howaboutcleaninguptheentiretownbeforeembarkingonblockingtheocean.Whileyou'reatit,changethenameofoceanave-afterall,youwon'tbeabletoseeit.(theocean)how'daliquorlicenscthatneverexistedeverwindupatCHanyway,tomYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Sleeps with the Fish, et al.
I agree 100% but if the shoe fits, as they say. Many deals are done behind closed doors, too. The old you rub my back, I'll rub yours. quid pro quo. So what gives? Will the REAL truth, please stand up? With the two new councilmen being absolved from the remaining three, what is their mission? Do they have a "secret" agenda? I say that, because NOTHING has been done and Asbury Partnersseem to berunning the City, not the people!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"dfsavgny\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Farbeitfrommetobringsomemodicumtothisforum,butheregoes.Ourcriticismsandanalysesarevalid.Let'snotbewrittenoffaswewereinthelastelectionasabunchofconspiracytheorists.IfinfactsomeonehasFACTSaboutsomeimproprietybetweenelectedofficialsorcityemployeesandAsburyPartners,thencertainlydivulgeit.Ifitisarumouroryourownspeculation,thenIrespectfullysuggestyoudonotspreaditviathisforum.ItisclearthatcityleadershaveletAsburyPartnersrunroughshodoverthiscity.Theagreementisone-sidedandstinkstohighheaven.Thosearefactsthatcanbeeasilyperceivedbyanyone.Whythisissoisanotherquestion.Wecanspeculateifpeoplearebeingpaidofforhaveothervestedinterestsbutitisjustthat,speculationandIthinkwithoutproofdoesusmoreharm.ThereisclearlysomethingrotteninthestateofDenmark.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS United state patent United state flag United state patent search Trademark united state United state quarters Asbury park nj YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: rock the boat...don't rock the boat
Why not? They're running everything else and building nothing! Where's the taxes Asbury was supposed to get?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"dfsavgny\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"wernerapnj"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:ThatclauseputstheMDinahigherlevelofcontrolthantheCityGovernmentitself.OH,NowIGetit!!:-)Whydoesthatsurpriseyou?Haveyouseenanycontraryevidenceinthepastcoupleofyearswithregardtotheredevelopment?IheartheyarechangingthewebistetotheCityofAsburyPartners.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS United state patent United state flag United state patent search Trademark united state United state quarters Asbury park nj YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Start over or amend?
Lightly, I agree with you! Now watch someone come in here and contradict me, with 20 answers! I love this town!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--Lighty<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:However,incontradictiontothem,Garysays:Kindasoundslikethereareenoughissuesbeingbroughtuptotakeasecondlookattheplan,doesn'tit?Imean,theGroundZerocomparisonshowsthatevensomethingofthatlevelcanbeSCRAPPEDANDSTARTEDOVER(emphasissupplied).I'mnotsayingtheyshouldstartoverwithanewplan.I'msayingthatthetownshouldtakeasecondlookattheplan(seeabove).IbroughtupGroundZerobecausethatshowshowevenaplanworkedonbyzillionsofpeopleandentriesfromaroundtheworldforthedesigncanbethrownoutandstartedover.Idon'tthinkAsburyshouldabandonthisplan,butIthinktheyneedtostartenforcingthings.ManyoftheassetsweresoldtoAsburyPartnersbecausethetowndidn'tthinkithadthemoneytorestorethem.Ifthosewerethegreatestassetsofthetown,shouldn'tthetownpeopleDEMANDtoknowwhatistobecomeofthemandonwhattimetable(ifany)therestorationshouldoccur?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1395 - Tom has a conflict
Skip, Don't know who Tom works for, but rumor has it, that someone in City Hall SLEEPS with the Fish! Just the regular dirt going around. Don't know how true it is, so no names, please!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"SkipBernstein\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Tomtoohasaconflict,ourwonderboyworksfortheFish.SkipBernstein[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://JerseyShoreRocks.com-OriginalMessage-From:"wernerapnj"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:Sent:Monday,August22,20051:41PMSubject:[AsburyPark]Re:DigestNumber1395---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"dfsavgny"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:IthinkoneofTommy'spointsisthedifficultyofobtainingapprovals.Perhapsyoucouldclearthisupforus(Werner),canyousummarizeexactlywhathasbeenappliedforandwhathasbeenapproved?Also,thewayitiswrittendoesn'treallysaythattheyhavetoAPPLYwithinacertainperiod(doesit?)butjustthattheyhavetocommenceworkwithaperiodafterAPPROVED.I'llseewhatIcandigup.Ireadittosayit'sapriority,permitspromptlyappliedfor,commencewithin6months,etc.Isn'ttherealawyerheresomewhere?:-)Tom,howaboutlookingatthatsectionoftheagreementandgivingusananalysis?Thedocumentisinthefilessectionofthegroup.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/filesWernerYahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: rock the boat...don't rock - independent council
Don't mean to be fecetious, so I WILL be. What's the City's Master Plan? In the long run, what's the deal? Please, don't everybody stampede to tell me! Is it online? Are there documents I can look at? I'm from Missouri, Show Me!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"SkipBernstein\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:".thecitycannotcondemnanypropertywithintheredevelopmentareawithoutAsburyPartners'approval..yousaidthatdoesnotincludethebeachfront,pavillions,CH,Casino,etc.Ithink.thatthatisnotclear.Inanyevent,thatwouldrequireacitythatstandsuptoAsburyPartners."Thatwouldrequirethecitytohaveindependentcouncil,alawyerwhoknewwhichmasterhemustserve,notJamesAaron.SkipBernstein[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://JerseyShoreRocks.com-OriginalMessage-From:"dfsavgny"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:Sent:Monday,August22,20051:02PMSubject:[AsburyPark]Re:rocktheboat...don'trocktheboat---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"wernerapnj"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:ThinkingofIronies,IsuggestedawhileagothattheCitydeclarethebeachfront,eastofOceanAvenue,aredevelopmentareaandexerciseeminentdomainonthePavilions,ConHall,Casino,Etc.Oh,youthoughtitalreadywasaredevelopmentarea?Noitisn't.Itcertainlylooks'blighted,underutilizedandindisrepair'tome.That'ssomeofthecriteriaunderthestatue.Takethebeachfrontbackandreturnittothetaxpayers.Aproperuseofeminentdomain.Ironic-AsburyPartnersgettingtasteoftheirownmedicine.Ithinkweaddressedthisawhilebackago.ItismyrecollectionthatthecitycannotcondemnanypropertywithintheredevlopmentareawithoutAsburyPartners'approval.Ithinkyousaidthatdoesnotincludethebeachfront,pavillions,CH,Casino,etc.Ithink,likeeverythingintheagreement(andthat'stheproblem)thatthatisnotclear.Inanyevent,thatwouldrequireacitythatstandsuptoAsburyPartners.Haveyouforgottenwhereyouare?Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1395
Looks like the City is getting it from both ends! Funny, these redevelopement, city and school board attorneys take the city for a ride every four years with their atrocious fees, that get the city screwed even more! I know, I worked for the City Attorney, remember? I don't have a clue as to how he represented AP! I know he charged a lot and did very little! I know, it looked like "Night Court", every day. You had to be there.SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"dfsavgny\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"wernerapnj"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Howlonghasitbeensincetheappovals?IthinkoneofTommy'spointsisthedifficultyofobtainingapprovals.PerhapsyoucouldclearthisupforusWerber,canyousummarizeexactlywhathasbeenappliedforandwhathasbeenapproved?Also,thewayitiswrittendoesn'treallysaythattheyhavetoAPPLYwithinacertainperiod(doesit?)butjustthattheyhavetocommenceworkwithaperiodafterAPPROVED.Ofcourse,that'swhatweseeastheproblemwiththispoorlywrittenagreement.Itdoesnotprotectthecity.Alladvantageisgiventothedeveloper(sic).Whyyouwouldcontinuetorideahorsethatkeepsthrowingyouisbeyondme.Whatthiscityneedsiscompetentlegarepresentationthatworksinitsbestinterests.Ofcourse,ithastowantthatinthefirstplace.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS United state patent United state flag United state patent search Trademark united state United state quarters Asbury park nj YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Start over or amend?
So do you mean, that Asbury Partners has a "George Bush", mentality? My way or the highway? "Stay the course", type of thing? This will only incite the citizens here, as Cindy Sheehan started her protest of "one" and it snowballed! One Mother protesting the senseless death of HER son, but Mr. Bush stated, "he died for a Noble Cause"! Thus, "Operation Noble Cause" and "Arlington South", has taken off. Just a comparison in contrast, off subject a bit, to compare the way Asbury Partners want to "dumb down" the citizens here, in our fair city! What a shame! What's their point? I'll tell you; to Bamboozle us is what! Smoke and mirrors won't do!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"dfsavgny\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Idon'tthinkAsburyPartnersortheirsupportersneedtowagea"disinformationcampaign"whenthepeopleopposingthemarebeingsocontradictory.Idon'tthink"we"arecontradictory,it'sjustfreethinking.Iunderstandyourpostisa"constructive"criticismsandIwilltakeitasthat.Quitefrankly,Iguessmostof"us"donotliketheplanaswrittenandseeAsburyPartnersforwhatitis,andwishbothwouldjustgoawayandwecouldgetsomething/someonebetter.However,werealizethatthatisnotgoingtohappenandthus,insteadofcontradictingourselves,weunderstandthattheremustbeacompromiseifanything.Thus,thepartialretreat.Thepostsherearenotofficalcommuniquesfromtheunderground,andinessence,haveamountedtoourcollectivementalmasturbation(don'tstartpicketingmeTom).Ithought"our"messagewasclearduringthepre-electionperiod,butobviouslynotclearenoughorwhatpeoplewantedtohear.Idon'tthinkAsburyPartnerscouldmountadisinformationcampaignifitwantedto,unlessitisdisinformationaboutwhatitmeanstodowithourwaterfront.Disinformationispartofthegovernmentculturehere.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS United state patent United state flag United state patent search Trademark united state United state quarters Asbury park nj YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1395
Werner, Thanks for the link. Someone told me it was online but I didn't have a clue, again, thanks!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"wernerapnj\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"dfsavgny"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:...Now,ifsubstantialworkhadalreadyprogressedonthepavillionsandhistoricstructures,andotheramenitiesofthegeneralarea,thedownturnwouldbeweathereddifferently.Forgivemeforbeingbluethisweek,itwasjustafullmooninthepastfewdays.Thatisexactlywhyapreservationbasedplan,the1991planforexample,wouldhavebeenbetterforAsburyPark.Therewasasubstantialdesireofthepublicforthattohappen.SeethePreservationPlaninthefilessection:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/files/WernerYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS United state patent United state flag United state patent search Trademark united state United state quarters Asbury park nj YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: rock the boat...don't rock the boat
Werner, You said a mouthful! "Hit the head on the Nail", "took the bull by the horns" and every other overused and overworked cliche', but you said it and it IS ironic, isn't IT! I thought Aaron worked for them too. Seems like it was intimated in this forum, but maybe I'm confused, as usual! Correct me if I'm wrong,SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"wernerapnj\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"dfsavgny"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:...Thereisacommondenominatorhere.Inthebestofironies,IhearAsburyPartnersissuingaprivategroup...Weldon,Fishman,Aaron+NaiveCityCouncil=LandGrabThinkingofIronies,IsuggestedawhileagothattheCitydeclarethebeachfront,eastofOceanAvenue,aredevelopmentareaandexerciseeminentdomainonthePavilions,ConHall,Casino,Etc.Oh,youthoughtitalreadywasaredevelopmentarea?Noitisn't.Itcertainlylooks'blighted,underutilizedandindisrepair'tome.That'ssomeofthecriteriaunderthestatue.Takethebeachfrontbackandreturnittothetaxpayers.Aproperuseofeminentdomain.Ironic-AsburyPartnersgettingtasteoftheirownmedicine.WernerYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1395
After the riots of July 1970, a mall was built off the Asbury Circle. It opened around 1975, with the Steinbach Store being the anchor, then Sears moved across 66, from where the IHOP is. The main entrance to Sears was there. The closing of Steinbach's on Cookman sounded the death knell of the "old" downtown. The rest of the stores went to Norwood Ave., in Deal, like Pix Shoes. Nahan's and Fischs's moved to Ocean township on Hwy. 35. Nahan's is still where is moved to. Fisch's went out of business. Bob and Irving's, Pix Shoes, the Army /Navy Store on Main St. are where the new Municiple complex is. By 1975, only the Baronet and one other theatre was open. The Savoy on Mattison, closed! The Press Box restaurant, Rexall's, (Sonny's), Bob and David's, Wolco's, the Record store, Mr. Fashion, and a couple of dime stores, Woolworth's, WTGrants and another,were all that was left. Canadian's at Press Plaza closed shortly after. The small boutiques also moved to upscale Deal or Allenhurst. The Bra and Girdle factory were there through the 80's, then they closed by Kennedy Park. Bergers moved to Seaview Square and Dainty Apparel closed. I was a professional shopper back then, with 5 growing children, so I knew where the clothes, shoes, eyeglasses for my kids and Varsity Jackets were, that they HAD to have! First Communion, Confirmation, Buster Brown and Stride Right Shoes were ALL purchased rith there on Cookman, Ave., THE place to be, until the remaining stores shut down, one by one! I never liked Monmouth Mall, so I'd go to Woodbridge and Staten Island to shop for my kids, thereafter, although there was a Stenbach still in Red Bank. Never cared much for Red Bank. Different attitude there if you're Black. The better stores in North Jersey didn't give a rat's ass, as long as your money was green! I liked that! Shopped at AS, Ohrbach's, Stern's and Macy's. Better stuff! Really good service, too.SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"dfsavgny\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:JustafewobservationsfromAsburyRadio'stable-And,theyexpressedsuspicionaboutthecity'sdedicationtorestorethelandmarks,becauseofthecurrentappearanceandthetimethat'sgonebysincetheCitystarteditscomeback.Onecoupleaskedhowthecondoscouldbesellingaswellasreported,preconstruction,whenthesurroundingareastilllookedsobad.Iwasbeginningtothinkwewereonlyintheuniverse,butitappearstohavemadecontactwithotherintelligentlifeforms.Thankgoodnesswearenotaloneafterall.Iseethistemperingofenthusiamasbothgoodandbad.Thegoodisthatitbringssomerationality(andperhapsresponsibility)tothetable,muchlikerationalitycomingbacktothestockmarket.Whilehealthyforthelongrun,somemustbearthepain.Likemostrealestateprofessionalsandlaymanalike,Iamwaitingforthebubbletoburst.JustlastweekIhadDonaldTrumpaskmewhatIthoughtwasgoingtohappeninthemarketplace.Ilookedathimandsaid,"you'reaskingme,you'reDonaldTrump?"Thatisexactlyhowperplexingithasbeen.Justlikeingolfandaswingattheplate,poorfollowthroughcanruinyourgameinrealestate.IhavemyfingerscrossedthatthiswillnothappeninAP,butIhaveseenitbefore.Whenamarketdownturnhits,thoseareasbeinggentrifiedthatarenotsubstantiallycompleted,getshitworseandtakelongertorecover.Whilenooneispredictingasseriousadownturnasoccuredinthelate-1980'stoearly-1990's(doesanyonereallyknowforsure),marketconditionsareerodingaswespeak.Let'sbefrankaboutit.Inadditionto,andinspiteofitsspecialnature,whathasbroughtmosttoAPisitsavailibilityofrelativebargains.Thosebargainsarealreadydissappearing.Ifandwhenthemarketgoesdown,therewillberelativebargainselsewhereformany.Inplaceswithlesscrime,betterschoolsandmoresubstantialandbettermaintainedinfrastructure.WhilethoseareasmaynothavethesamefunkyallureofAP,peoplewillweightheproswiththeconsinmakingadecision.Ifthepriceofthenewcondoscannotbeobtained(andletmetellyouthattherearesomeprettyheadyprojetions),theywillnotgetbuilt,atleastuntilmarketconditionsimprove.Ifcaught(asIamfondofcomparingthecurrentstateofAP'sredevelopmentprocess)withits"pantsdown,"therewillbetheperceptionthattheymaynevergetbuiltandthatitwasanotherfalsestart.Now,ifsubstantialworkhadalreadyprogressedonthepavillionsandhistoricstructures,andotheramenitiesofthegeneralarea,thedownturnwouldbeweathereddifferently.Forgivemeforbeingbluethisweek,itwasjustafullmooninthepastfewdays.Yahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ SPONSORED LINKS United state patent United state flag United state patent search
[AsburyPark] Re: Racism
I'd love to! Some of the nicest people live there! I beleive that there are 3 New Jerseys. The so-called industrial North, central, which is us, although my Northern friends call Asbury South Jersey, and South Jersey, that calls Asbury, North Jersey! Jerseyjohn and others, I'm no longer going to post about racism, racist attitudes, etc., Why? You have a poster who either has his/her head in the sand and nothing you or I say will convince him/her, otherwise. IT EXISTS! Just look at who runs the government to who runs the prisons. Oh yeah, we've made progress. I can walk into a restaurant and hopefully be served. What happened to all the dime stores like Woolworths, Newberrys, Kress, McCrory's, etc.? They ALL went out of business! Why? They didn't change with the times! Sure lunch counters were integrated in the 60's but who would eat from these greasy spoons? Also, if you do business with the government, you HAVE to hire minorities, as in Blacks. Why? We pay federal tax, too! We pay ncome tax, too! Just as the revolutionaries argued against paying tax to King george without representation, why should any black person pay taxes? We're not represented fairly. Matter of fact, we should be exempt, until reparations are paid to us for 450 years of free labor, okay Blue Bishop? How'd you go to law school? What did your parents do for a living? Did you have a maid? Butler? Mexican gardener? Au pair? You sound like you've been under a rock, don't read the papers, never heard of police brutality, Abner Louima, Emmett Till, or the T- shirts, NYC cops wore during the Giuilani Administration, We Own The Night! NO? Italians, Irish, German, ALL have been discriminated from the moment they touched these shores! You need a lesson in History! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *yawn* next time I go to my parents, you wanna come down to a farm? You wanna see how chickens go from an egg to your grocery store? Wanna see sausage made? Did you ever wonder why it's called scrapple? do you know WHY butchers wear white aprons? You're probably too busy in your quests to take a drive down to Cumberland County for an afternoon, so how can you expect some basketball star to take a month out of his too brief career to see how his shoes are made? Me, I personally know too many good Americans who are out of work to worry about some Malayindopolynesian who is working. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Similarly, we have been asking Nike endorsed athletes to come with us to Indonesia for quite a while, so that they can meet personally the people who make their clothes and shoes, and who are working in sweatshops. But most athletes don't want to go to Indonesia or Mexico or Thailand to meet sweatshop workers firsthand b/c then they might feel guilty and they can't continue to be conveniently uninformed - the whole if I don't see it, it doesn't exist thing. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1361
The answer was given by a previous poster. I DID have him confused with Tom Gilmour and I stand corrected. I'm not perfect either! Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- In a message dated 7/29/2005 2:08:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: I heard that terry Reidy has moved from rumson to an apartment here. bet he goes home on the weekends, though! Wink-wink! Sharon - Terry's from Montclair. He bought a house here on 4th Ave. Are you confusing him with Tom Gilmour, who lives in Fair Haven? Maureen Speak up - It's America!!Maureen NevinRestore Radio 88.1FM - "5" Years on the Radio!!Asbury Park's Own Live Talk Show601 Bangs AvenueListen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM orListen Live or Later on the Web http://www.restoreradio.com/Call the show 732-775-0821Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 ---End Message---
Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1361
One more comment. There are qualified natives of Asbury Park, some with the same, Black and White, if not equal credentials. Why are Blacks insulted that they can't do the SAME job better, but won't because of what's happening to Lou Jordan, Wilbur Russell, etc. Whenever a Black person is chosen for a administrative job here, they are second guessed to death! I personally think that the stress Wilbur Russell was under, killed him! My opinion, so don't question me to death on that! I was a witness to how he was addressed in Council Chambers, with no respect, whatsoever. That Homeowners report was taken to the FBI and who was snared first, Terry Weldon, is who. The FBI started looking into everyone's background and that's how his fraud was uncovered! He's walking around like King of the Hill, while the Blacks are either going to be carted off to jail on a trumped up conspiracy, only because a former councilwoman wore a wire and sold out her people. She is seen as a shill of the white conspiracy that makes sure any decent Black won't apply for these plum jobs that whites sit on and think they are entitled to have. It's all about 'entitlement'; they've always had it and will be damned if any one of us can do the same in a calm, professional manner. I am making a general statement and NOT putting it on anyone in particular. I see how some councilman speak to blacks and whites, have no respect for anyone, that questions them, why they sign onto deals, that virtually gives the city away, while they criticized the Blacks for thinking that they were doing right by the city, also. They're no better than the bad Black people, they replaced! The Blacks successfully had a recall, back in 96 throwing Candiano and another off the council, because they didn't know any better either! What qualifies the sitting council? They're just as green as the others that sat there and made fools of themselves, wouldn't address issues and were made to look like they were in someone's pocket! When no one downtown explains why they are doing something, what are ordinary citizens like myself, who are not on the inside or sophisticated enough to realize that this City has been SOLD down the river, to the fattest cat in town? Answer that! I await the flames! Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached One more comment Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- In a message dated 7/29/2005 2:08:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes: I heard that terry Reidy has moved from rumson to an apartment here. bet he goes home on the weekends, though! Wink-wink! Sharon - Terry's from Montclair. He bought a house here on 4th Ave. Are you confusing him with Tom Gilmour, who lives in Fair Haven? Maureen Speak up - It's America!!Maureen NevinRestore Radio 88.1FM - "5" Years on the Radio!!Asbury Park's Own Live Talk Show601 Bangs AvenueListen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM orListen Live or Later on the Web http://www.restoreradio.com/Call the show 732-775-0821Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463 ---End Message---
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: crock of shit
Why is their a 4-letter word in your subject line? I am to the understanding that this newsgroup was limited to 18 and over. If it is, a kid has no place here. correct me if I'm wrong. Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- Try not to curse, there's a 12 year old on this board. Ray Kramer was a successful restauranteur, if I recall correctly. You still have not named me his crime - because he didn't commit any. It's stuff like this - just yelling corruption without any facts at all - that gives AP a bad name. Don't ever think you can get away with that in front of me. I love this City too much to let people say unfounded rumors about it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah lawyers...BlueBishop wrote... You claim Ray Kramer was a criminal. Please tell me what crime he committed. I will make a prediction: You will answer me with generalities that have no facts. You won't be able to name a crime Ray committed. Of course not! Ray Kramer was the mayor, remember. Wasn't Kramer a teacher when he was elected, lived in a simple home etc.? He made out pretty good post AP though didn't he? What marina in Point Pleasant did the Kramer family own? Name a crime Ray Kramer committedwhat a ridiculous and insulting question. Just as insulting as saying there was no govt mandated beach for blacks. It may not have been mandated by lawyers, but it was mandated by society. Twist your words in court BB, let's try to keep it real here.. ---End Message---
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Why Support Jordan?
The City hired Lou under contract, with duties contained therein, stating what his duties were, etc., the pay was an incentive for him to become the Police Director WITH olice powers, etc., arrest powers, which is why he went on patrol and the question he asked those white kids is the same question that any Black that has lived here over time knows that a portion of the west side is where the small-time dope dealers hang out! Springwood, Borden, DeWitt, Bangs, and the notorious Prospect ave., right by the Middle School. Once you are trusted here, Blacks will tell you, don't let your kids hang down here! Funny thing is, a Black person couldn't get a good hair cut UNLESS they went on the Av! I attended St. Peter Claver's church. I HAD to go down there. I wasn't afraid of my people, I was afraid of the rep! My kids went to Catechism 3 times a week there, but the Sisters picked them up and brought them home. A frien opened a restaurant across the street but now it's a drug hang-out corner! Just drive by and evening or certain time of the day and you'll probably see anything on that corner. God on one side and Crime on the other! Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- Abdualtalac: I didn't have a problem when Lou Jordan signed a contract for $104,000.00 per yer. My problem is when the Court decalred that it was illegal for him to do most of the things his contract called for, he didn't have his salary cut. For instance, let's say I hire a gardner to cut my front lawn and my back lawn for $100. Then a Court rules he is not allowed to cut my back lawn anymore. Do I still pay him $100 to cut just the front lawn? Shouldn't I get a discount now that he has half the work to do? So as a taxpayer, why weren't you upset when Lou got to do half his job for full salary? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's funny that everytime louis jordans name is mention, the first thing that comes out is how much money he is making. It's just like i said, they don't want him making that much money. -Original Message- From: Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 04:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Why Support Jordan? Asbury has improved, if the crime rate hasn't (as reports state) he must be held accountable. I am dissapointed that the mayor says he does not agree with this. Again if the man can get the job done, and he has had plenty of time, then someone else should be brought in. Congrats to the city manager for taking this action. On the restore radio site it says this is sad news. Maybe Maureen would like to define sad. Sad because the man is losing his job or is this sad for Asbury? Maybe Maureen has additional information? bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand any support for Jordan. First, we hired him for over $100,000.00 to do a job that was spelled out in his contract. The Court ruled most of that job he is not allowed to do by law. I thought for sure he would be let go then. Isn't anyone upset that he doesn't have to work at the job we hired him to do anymore yet he still gets his $100,000? Second, crime is up in Asbury Park under Lou Jordan. Third, most Downtown businesses have been burglarized under Lou Jordan, some several times. He has made no changes to try to combat that. Fourth, some of his resume is an exaggeration. Fifth, the police department is in a complete state of disarray because of him. The officers have given him a vote of no confidence. He has broken the chain of command there. There are lawsuits regarding his intentionally passing over white officers for promotion, and several Black officers signed affidavits confirming that the white officers are telling the truth. The police don't want to work with him, and the morale there is at its worst in the history of the department. Sixth, his use of the resources we have is lacking. Only one guy per shift dusts for prints. If he is busy, you don't get the services. On some Friday and Saturday nights, we have had as few as 2 officers on patrol - that's not enough. Seventh, people have complained that they have called the Police Department for service, only to be told, Too busy - can't help you. Eighth, you can't get paperwork under an OPRA request from Jordan's department, which is a violation of the law. Ninth, his stopping people based upon race in their cars and harassing them was a terrible embarrassment to Asbury Park. Tenth, some of his comments are simply made up. Lou once stated that he
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: crock of shit
.And they've never walked a mile in your shoes, either. Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- Title: AOL Email Sometimes people don't see racism as it is because they are on the other end of it. ---End Message---
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: State Aid to Construct AP Schools...
So Asbury Park loses all around is what I'm getting. Or does the City win? Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- Dan, Good point. That article I posted seemed to use all three interchangeably. Can you tell by the article which one Long Branch is? Could it be a combination of all 3? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JJ: See below. I thought LB was tax abated. Did this change? People use tax abatements and exemptions interchangeably, however, they are not the same thing. An exemption is calculated by exempting a portion of the assessed value, while an abatement is an amount directly credited against your tax bill. While they both try to achieve the same end, they are not the same. Also, I find it somewhat ametuerish that purportedly knowledgeable people use exemptions and/or abatements with PILOT. PILOT are payments in lieu of taxes when the property is TOTALLY EXEMPT from conventional taxes. That's like the WTC and Times Square both situated on state property, thus exempt. While I am nitpicking, I think it is telling that some dealing with this don't have a complete grasp of the concepts. ---End Message---
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Kramer
Illegal immigrants are another issue, entirely! Why aren't the Asbury Park Police arresting them from being in htis country and this city, illegally? Who says that low income people won't take one of those jobs they do? Number 1, the LAWs aren't being enforced. These people are being exploited just as blacks were exploited for 350 years during slavery when their labor was free, because we were property and sexually abused because I would'nt be as light as I am if the abuse hadn't gone on! I can't say exactly, what the hell I am, other than a mutt! White people just don't get it! We're all seen as welfare people when the exact opposite is true!Blacks are a minority, 12% of the population and 80% of the incarcerated. What's wrong with that picture? Profiling? Certainly! Red-lined? Absolutely! Under-educated? Ridiculously SO! Get rid of the illegals and watch unemployment go DOWN! Either give them working papers or visas, organize them into a union, give them decent housing or send them back! This is a form of genocide against them; a group that have been on the North American Continent, thousands of years before any white person set foot here and bagan this journey of exploitation that some whites are so good at! Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Weldon is much like Dick Nixon to me. He did a bad thing in Ocean Township, but that doesn't affect the good he did here in Asbury Park. Two different things. I fear there are people just hoping that it will come out that Terry did something wrong in Asbury (I don't mean you). I don't hope that. I don't think those people care too much for Asbury's reputation and legacy. If Terry did something wrong here it would hurt AP - I could never hope for that. Not that we hope for it, its just that we then can have some rational reason for the one-sided deal that was signed. The only other alternatives are inexperience, myopia, etc. Asbury Park already has more low income and affordable housing than any other town in Monmouth County. There is no shortage here. Why build more - you don't bring sand to the beach, do you? We should press for low income and affordable housing in towns where there isn't any - Asbury Park has been carrying far more than its fair share long enough. True, but I think there is a concern about affordable housing disappearing through gentrification. With AP comprising about 70-80% renters, I don;t think there is an immediate need for affordable rental housing. I would support affordable home ownership programs however, since I beleive that is the key - giving people an equity stake in how the area is maintained and progresses. While we're at it, how about strict enforcement on landlords who let their properties decline, and especially those who encourage illegal tenancies (overcrowding). Nassau and Suffolk counties are finally addressing this problem however, some thought must be given to the soluton, i.e., what do you do with the illegals living there. IN AP, every renter's name must be on the CofO. We all know this is not the case in many instances where we see 10 or more adults living in 1 apartment. Social issues aside, its nice to be nice, but this ain't going to do any one any good. Call code enforcement and demand that they act. ---End Message---
Re: [AsburyPark] freedom is just another word
What I find so remarkable here is instead of facing the racism, it's explained away, which is why riots as you call them occur! You keep backing a certain group into a corner, noting the history of slavery and the spewing of propaganda that says all men are created equal, then you turn around and run as fast as you can to get to your safe little havens AWAY from that, which you won't acknowledge. It's hypocritical to say the least! Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- I believe that BlueBishop wasn't trying to deny that the beaches of Asbury were segregated. I believe his point, and I am 100% sure he will confirm or deny, was that there was no official policy concerning the use of Asbury Park's beaches. That the same racist attitudes still exist in the hearts and minds of people of all races is still true. What role racism plays in Asbury Park today is an interesting question and topic for this group. What role racism is playing in the Police Directors gig is what started this thread and is a most pertinent and enduring question and a question that needs to be answered. Vin Scelsa is still on the radio, he does a Saturday night show called Idiots Delight from 8 to midnight and last night he had Daniel Wolf on. Wolf is the author of 4th of July Asbury Park A History of the Promised Land. For those of you who don't know DJ Vin Scelsa. Vin was amongst the original WNEW FM DJs that took FM radio in NYC and created a short lived but much loved genre of radio called free form. Vin was the on air DJ the horrible night that John Lennon was shot. The same night Bruce and the E Streeters performed in Philadelphia and went on with the show after they heard the news half way through the concert. Anyway, Vin is a master interviewer, especially with authors, and his 4 hour interview with Daniel Wolf is a great listen, especially for those who are into Bruce. Wolf brought a recording of Dr Zoom and the Sonic Boom doing a wild psychedelic version of Carol King's Will You Love Me Tomorrow. They also discuss at length the role that racism played in AP. If anyone wants to listen to the interview follow this link, http://mywebpages.comcast.net/iddiot_tree/ and right click on the .zip file. You will be able to download a zipped MP3 file that is the entire show. If anyone needs assistance getting the file, please email me off digest and I will assist you. It is really very easy to download and listen. A couple things I didn't know from last night. The riots in Asbury were not a part of the nationwide riots that hit Newark and LA??? I always thought they were the same, however, according to wolf, AP's riots were 2 years later. Wolf also spoke about fights that occurred after a Frankie Lymon show at Convention Hall that spread to the boardwalk, very interesting. It is pretty amazing that a city with such a vast history as Asbury Parks, a history that literally includes most of the most famous performers, politicians and scene makers from most of the 20th century, has become defined by Bruce Springsteen. I imagine that in 100 years, when they talk about AP, Bruce will still be what they talk about. And that ain't a bad thing, after all, Bruce's early work captures all that Asbury had to offer in the most amazing literate terms, starting of course with Sandy, and sadly bookended by My City In Ruins. There are X number of structures in Asbury Park. Many of which have lied in a dormant or rotting state for way to many years. Of those structures, houses and apartments and commercial buildings, I wonder what percentage of them have changed ownership and either have been rehabilitated, or are being rehabilitated at this time. Even without the waterfront redevelopment, the fact that Asbury is being reconstructed is a hard fact to argue with. When all is said and done, what Asbury Park will look and feel like might just amaze us. ---End Message---
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: crock of shit
What are you not hearing? I have friends on the West-Side too, 3rd, 4th Ave., but if you go onto Springwood, Bordan, DeWitt, shoot, I wouldn't want to live there. It looks like a garbage dump! Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- Dave: I'm not going to be so presumptuous as to say that you are wrong. All I'm saying is that in the thousands of photos and postcards I've seen, I'm surprised I've never caught a glimpse of the signs you are talking about. Remember too that Asbury Avenue is the beach Asbury Blacks flocked to in the 1800. They were not segregated there. It is the beach they enjoyed. Now there are postings here that racism is a problem in Asbury Park today. Of course, no one can cite any examples. This victimology at its worst. Maybe its because my roots are on the west side, my mother still lives in the house I grew up in. I'm there often. I just don't see the racism. I feel terrible that poeple are disparaging Asbury Park like this. It's BS and don't ever expect me to stand for it. This is the least racist town I've been to. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, David J. Mieras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BBif you were born in 1963 and the Civil Rights Act was 1964, how would you certainly know if there were or weren't signs when you were still crawling? I must admit my error w/ Led Zep because I didn't go to that show, but if you ask someone like Mike Dowling, Tookie, or my Brother, they'd remember if there were or weren't signs. The sign on Black Beach was the only rascist posting I ever saw in my life, so I remember it being there. I was 10 in 1962. - Original Message - From: bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 11:58 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: crock of shit Dave: Like most others around here, I have looked at thousands of photos of AP. Anyone have any photos showing a Blacks Only or Whites Only sign on the beach from the 50's? If there was one on every beach, I imaging there must be some pictures. Must say by the time I was there (born 63) there certainly weren't any. Civil Rights Act of 1964, perhaps? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, David J. Mieras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He lived in Monroe Towers, right BB? (mailing address) I remember the sign, Blacks Only on Black Beach when I was a kid (born 1952). I've written about that beach in one of my stories on www.greasylake.org . There were Whites Only on the rest of the beaches to the North of the Casino. All the black workers in Ocean Grove had to leave town when they were done w/ work. Ray Kramer was a slick cat. He'd bring his young oriental girlfriend to UPSTAGE once in a while. There were always rumors flying around about the man, but that's normal Asbury Park politics. I don't recall him getting caught up in any crime, but do remember he had a reputation of a poor businessman. - Original Message - From: traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 10:36 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] crock of shit ah lawyers...BlueBishop wrote... You claim Ray Kramer was a criminal. Please tell me what crime he committed. I will make a prediction: You will answer me with generalities that have no facts. You won't be able to name a crime Ray committed. Of course not! Ray Kramer was the mayor, remember. Wasn't Kramer a teacher when he was elected, lived in a simple home etc.? He made out pretty good post AP though didn't he? What marina in Point Pleasant did the Kramer family own? Name a crime Ray Kramer committedwhat a ridiculous and insulting question. Just as insulting as saying there was no govt mandated beach for blacks. It may not have been mandated by lawyers, but it was mandated by society. Twist your words in court BB, let's try to keep it real here.. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links ---End Message---
Re: [AsburyPark] Back in the day...the ole'den dayz
I've never heard that story but I wuldn't dispute it. There was an African-American newspaper here edited by Roosevelt Elmore, Sr. Worked with the son at Bell Labs and now I know why he was so militant! I always thought he had a chip on his shoulder. Someone gave my husband a photo copy of an issue and the SAME crap that was happening in 1964 is magnified in 2005! I swear, photos of junk yards where black kids had to pass to get to Bangs Ave. school, are now the site of the new Neptune Early education site on Memorial drive but Atkins Ave. homes were torn down by Neptune authorities to make way for a new project and that land stayed dormant until recently. I moved to the state in 1970 and the burned out carcasses of Springwood Ave. were here when I arrived and that land lay vacant until recently. When I was on the Board of Adjustment, Konvitz sent his construction manager to ask for a variance to complete the project. They found out that they didn't need a variance because the use was the same, home construction. All they wanted was to change the use from 2 bedroom to 3 bedroom. Not a problem! Also during the testimony of the manager he revealed that that area because it wasn't being used had become a dumping ground for stoves, refrigerators and large refuse items that before any construction could be started, the land had to be dug up, they had to remove these items to lay down sewer, gas and electric lines. See what happens in the ghetto? Any damn thing goes because those people are there and ther's nothing they can do about it! Powerless is what the people in that area are. Your tax dollars at work! Where were the police, code enforcement? Where? Remember, this ws before Lou Jordan came onto the force! My commission expired 12/31/99. Check the records! Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note: message attached Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- There was a time when African Americans were not allowed to go onto the beach in Asbury Park. Oh, i'm sure if we dig deep enough we will be able to find something on the line of Whites Only Ask some of the ole' timers about Katherine Harris and how she was the instrumental force in desegregating the beach. How her husband A Fair Skin Black Man and talented sand sculptor with one arm who wore a fez and did not speak, {although he could} so no one really knew what nationality he was. Do you think if the officials knew that Lorenzo Harris Sr. was an African American he would have been allowed on the beach? Were any of you aware that the Klans had requested to march on the beach/board walk. {i'm talking about back in the day, stay with me now} and the mayor at that time i believe his name was Heinrich dont quote me on the name, i'll have to go thru my papers to get his correct name, anyway; he told the klan if they wanted to march they could march down Springwood Ave. {He said in hopes of the klans taking him up on the offer, so the Italians and Blacks would run their hooded ass'es out of there. They did get a chance to march, they marched down Ridge Ave to Corlies Ave where they had their headquarters. Oh, i have lots of stories to tell, but i'll save them for another time. Not much changes but the time. There are different forms of racism, it's still alive today. ---End Message---