Re: Asking permission to list a Mac for sale

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello all:

I apologize for sending this to the group. I got the moderator address from the 
footer and activated the link, so it should have just gone to Mark.
thank you to him for being gracious in allowing me to list my computer for sale 
in a separate post.
Rachel.

> On May 4, 2017, at 5:58 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
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> I have replied to Rachael's request, off-list.
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> Hello Alex, the reason whether we are got this message. Is because he sent it 
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>> On May 4, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> Somehow, I received this message. I'm not sure if I was made a moderator at 
>> some point, or if something snuk into your email? Either way, I can't answer 
>> for Mark or Cara, but hopefully one of them can clarify my own question 
>> here. If you get responses other than from the mods or myself, this could be 
>> why.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 4, 2017, at 15:59, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
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>>> Hello Mark,
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>>> I am writing to ask your permission to list a Mac book pro I have for sale 
>>> on the Mac visionaries list.
>>> Thank you,
>>> Rachel.
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Moderator Approved: Selling Mid 2014 MacBook Pro

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello All:


For sale I have a Mid 2014 MacBook Pro with original box/charger/charging 
extension chord.

the specs are as follows:

Intel Core i5 2.6 GHZ processor.

8 gb RAM.

128 GB SSD hard drive.

2 thunderbolt ports, 2 USB 3.0 ports, an HDMI port.

SD card slot.

Everything works perfectly well, however, the screen has some 
discoloration/distortion. I am unsure as to why, except that this is how I 
received it from the previous owners who informed me of this aspect. If you 
need an external monitor, it will be best to connect it using the HDMI port to 
another display supporting this standard. All other things are in excellent 
working order. I am asking $650 which will include shipping in the United 
States. IF you require international shipping, feel free to get in touch, and I 
would be happy to work with you.

Please email me if interested at:

walksi...@gmail.com



Thanks!

Rachel.

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Asking permission to list a Mac for sale

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello Mark,

I am writing to ask your permission to list a Mac book pro I have for sale on 
the Mac visionaries list.
Thank you,
Rachel.

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Re: Opinions wanted: Speed Dots for new iPad user?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello Alex,


As you're starting out with an iPad, the SpeedDots tactile screen 
protectors are very helpful. You are able to orient properly, (such as 
showing the tabs at the top of the screen in apps like Safari and mail), 
and for certain keys on the keyboard such as extra punctuation and 
finding the "delete" or "hide keyboard" buttons. Also, there is a dot in 
the middle of the screen to "dismiss" the pop-up dialogs that can appear 
when wanting you to make a choice from a series of items.


the tactile screen protectors are organized, so dropping dots on a 
regular screen protector while understandable, may not serve you well in 
all apps.


for instance, you'll be able to find the edit/back/search buttons much 
easier with a defined dot. I find even long-time iPhone users, once 
going to the iPad experience some disorientation at first, having so 
much more screen real-estate to handle. So having tabs at the top and 
bottom, (depending on the app), clearly defined is a huge time saver.


Hope that helps,

Rachel.

On 4/17/2017 3:06 AM, Alex Hall wrote:


Hello all,
I'm working with a client who has never touched a computer and does 
not type at all, nor do they use braille. Therefore, we're starting on 
an iPad, because of the easy dictation, ability to touch the screen to 
explore it, and so on. One difficulty is orientation on the screen. 
We're using the home button as a reference, but that's not as good as 
having markers on the screen, of course.


My question is about Speed Dots screen protectors. I've never used 
one, so I don't know if they would work. I know what they do, but with 
iOS, things aren't always in the same place. For instance,  the prompt 
to enter your passcode when TouchID isn't an option has a whole 
different number pad than the prompt to provide your passcode for an 
update, and entering a phone number on the iPad actually presents the 
numbers keyboard, not a phone-like layout at all. This client isn't 
using the keyboard, at least not yet, so having dots on the keys won't 
be too helpful right now, but could be in the future. And yet, some 
people find having reference dots helpful, so I'm not sure what to 
suggest.


For those who have used, or currently use, Speed Dots, are they really 
helpful? Do the dots help even if they can be placed incorrectly for 
the current application? Has anyone found it easier to just toss some 
tactile dots on a screen protector, exactly where you want them? 
Thanks for any thoughts on this.


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Re: Selective sync in dropbox?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Matt,

Yes, there is. Once you get to where you're presented with the folders list, 
all are checked. Voiceover won't announce them as such, but they are. To 
uncheck the folders you don't want to sync, press spacebar on them. Again, 
voiceover won't announce the state as unchecked, but once you press the button 
to update your settings, it should take.
HTH,
Rachel.

> On Jan 4, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
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> Is there a way to use selective sync with dropbox and voiceover?
> Thanks.
> 
> God bless.
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Re: Configuring calendar alerts in IOS

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi donna,

If you go to settings.calendar?default alert times, you can set the primary 
time you will be alerted before an event. If you want to have a second alert, 
go into the calendar app itself, to the event, and you should be able to 
schedule a second one there.
Rachel.

> On Dec 8, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Is there a way to set up default behavior for calendar alerts?  For example, 
> can I set it up so that I get one alert two days before, and a second alert 
> an hour before any time I schedule a new event?
> TIA,
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Re: caps lock as screen reader modifier on Windows VM?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Alex,

This article will walk you through all steps necessary to remap caps lock to 
insert for use in Fusion.
https://www.marcozehe.de/2015/06/07/how-to-map-your-macs-capslock-key-to-a-nvda-or-jaws-key-in-a-windows-virtual-machine/
HTH,
Rachel.

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> Hi all,
> I have Windows running on my MBP using Fusion. How do I get caps lock to act 
> as a modifier for NVDA? Even with VoiceOver completely off, Windows doesn't 
> seem to see the key correctly. Narrator speaks it when I press it, so Windows 
> knows about it, but NVDA just won't use it like it should. What do people do 
> to get around this problem, or is it specific to this new Pro somehow? I'm 
> using Windows 10, Fusion 8.5, and Sierra. Thanks!
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Re: Amadeus Pro from app store or not?

[Rachel Feinberg]

You'll want the version from the website. The app store version, because of 
Apple's "sanboxing" approach to apps, takes away  some functionality. Such as 
being able to save in some formats, or missing some options.
Rachel.

> On Nov 16, 2016, at 11:34 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
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> Hi!
> I am going to buy the amadeus pro version but need to know whats the 
> differences between the one from app store and the one from their site?
> I know i can convert the license but if i can get the most out of the one 
> version from appStore i get that one because the easyness with payment and 
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to Jeff burwick and anyone else experienceing the alarm and volume discrepancy

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi all,


Earlier this week, a thread came up about iOS alarms not holding to the 
same volume as the regular phone. I also have experienced this, and what 
I've found to abliterate the alarm woes is to turn off audio ducking. 
that will then keep the volume at the same level as everything else.


to do this:

go to settings>general>accessibility>voiceover>audio>audio ducking and 
switch it to "off".


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Re: Alarm Bug in IOS 10.0.1

[Rachel Feinberg]

The alarm does seem to be a lot quieter since iOS 10 came around. If you're 
testing with the beta app, find the Feedback app and activate it. You'll have a 
chance to title your report, choose which category your report falls under, 
like accessibility, and so on. Then, you'll have a place to write out the bug 
and how they can reproduce it.
Thanks,
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> On Sep 19, 2016, at 8:18 AM, Brandon A. Olivares  
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> Interesting. I just had an alarm this morning and it worked fine. But it was 
> from the Bedtime tab, not alarm, though I’d think it’d work the same way.
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I think I’ve discovered a bug in IOS 10.0.1 using Voiceover and the Alarm 
>> app.  Unfortunately, I ended up sleeping in and missing my bus/train this 
>> morning.
>> 
>> Can anybody confirm thet the alarm sound drops out or doesn’t play at all 
>> when Voiceover is running?  I have also tried it with the mute button set 
>> and I think that causes a problem too.
>> 
>> Assuming we can recreate this bug, how do I submit this to Apple as I’ve 
>> never submitted one before.
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
>> 
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Re: Urgent difficulty icloud security code

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The iCloud security code is a security measure that you must have set up 
relating to keychain and the info stored there. If you can remember the code, 
or get it sent via SMS message, you should be able to get back into your Mac, 
or approve the mac if the iPhone is an already trusted device in the keychain.
HTH,
Rachel.
> On Aug 27, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
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> Hi sorry for any spelling mistakes but I am dictating this message I have 
> just reinstalled my MacBook air and everything went fine until I got an 
> unexpected message about an iCloud security code I have never heard about 
> this code before and I don't know what it is I can apparently a proof this 
> Mac with another device and I do have an iPhone 6 which I don't want it but I 
> can't find anywhere to approve this I have to run don't do step of 
> densification but I already had to enter that's goat earlier my Mac has a 
> wired network connection why my iPhone is only feet any help would be greatly 
> appreciated because I am now totally stuck with the set up process it's going 
> to do anything else greetings Anouk
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Re: Amadeus Pro question - How do play back a track I just recorded?

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You may have to press tab an additional time after you've stopped 
recording to get it to play.



On 4/22/2016 6:08 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi Rachel,

I know that's what is supposed to happen, but that isn't the behavior I'm 
seeing.  I make a recording, I stop recording, I press Tab, and nothing happens.
Cheers,
Donna


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Pressing tab will start you from the beginning of your file. It's where your 
playhead is. If you route the insertion point to the playhead at any point in 
your file, (with command+y), then pressing space will start from that point.


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Hi all,

I'm very confused by Amadeus.  Sometimes pressing the Tab Key will play back my 
track, sometimes pressing the spacebar will do it, and sometimes neither one 
will work.  I can figure out no pattern to which option works when.  Can 
someone please explain this to me?  I do have Preferences configured according 
to the specifications Jonathan describes in his Ebook.
Cheers,
Donna


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Re: Amadeus Pro question - How do play back a track I just recorded?

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Pressing tab will start you from the beginning of your file. It's where 
your playhead is. If you route the insertion point to the playhead at 
any point in your file, (with command+y), then pressing space will start 
from that point.



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Hi all,

I'm very confused by Amadeus.  Sometimes pressing the Tab Key will play back my 
track, sometimes pressing the spacebar will do it, and sometimes neither one 
will work.  I can figure out no pattern to which option works when.  Can 
someone please explain this to me?  I do have Preferences configured according 
to the specifications Jonathan describes in his Ebook.
Cheers,
Donna



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Re: Is it possible to rename a photo or video?

[Rachel Feinberg]

I think the double-tap and hold method to rename something only works on 
an element. E.G: button, link, that kind of thing. Pictures don't seem 
to stick with that method.

A good idea if it would work though!


On 3/13/2016 11:57 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi Vaughn,

As soon as I hear back, I'll pass their response on to the list.
Cheers,
Donna

On Mar 13, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:

Donna,

Please let us know what you come across. I, too, enjoy taking photos
and videos but dread doing it without a means of labeling.

Kindly,
Vaughn

On 3/13/16, Donna Goodin  wrote:

OK, I've gotten the double-tap and hold to work, sort of.  Like Jenine, the
first time I tried it the name didn't stick  But the second time I tried it
it did.  However, the copy on my phone is being renamed, but the label isn't
being carried over to my Mac.  I think I'm going to write to the
Accessibility folks and see what they have to say.
Cheers,
Donna

On Mar 13, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Jenine Stanley 
wrote:

That option of the 2-finger double tap and hold to rename doesn’t seem to
work for me. I can put in the new name but it disappears.

what does work is to bring up the picture in TapTap See, have it
recognized and that will stay in your camera roll. It’s quite handy. I
don’t think you can change the descriptions but at least you have some
idea of what the picture is.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com




On Mar 13, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Josh Smith  wrote:

I do not know if it will work or not, but you can try a to finger double
tap and hold on the picture. This may or may not bring up the option to
relabel. This is the only thing I can think of to try.

Sent from my iPhone


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Hi all,

Is there any way on the iPhone to rename a photo or video with something
a little more meaningful than the date it was taken?  Any help much
appreciated.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: attaching speed dots tactile screen protector to iPhone 6S

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Hi Donna,

Included in your package is a cleaning cloth. Take this to your phone 
and make sure the surface is free of dirt before applying the screen 
protector.
Once the phone is clean, open the screen protector package and line it 
up straight with the phone. Make sure all of the holes line up, such as 
those for the home button, ear piece, and camera hole. Once you have it 
aligned, press it to the phone. Make sure there are no "bubbles" (that 
is, air between the screen protector and the glass), or it won't stick 
as well, and have a "bumpy" feel. That would be, not in addition to the 
bumps you actually want to feel!
Always feel free to contact SpeedDots if you have more questions; but I 
hope this has helped you.

Rachel.

On 3/4/2016 3:00 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

My tactile screen protector just arrived.  I thought they might have included 
some instructions, but they don't.  Did you attach it yourself?  If so, how?  I 
have the Otterbox protector and the iPhone 6S.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers,
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Re: Questions re tactile covers

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I use the standard model, and am able to text one-handed, along with 
auto-correct and spelling suggestions, I sometimes prefer typing on the 
touch-screen than with a bluetooth keyboard. Having reference points for 
the 5 on the numbpad, the back/done/next/previous buttons in various 
apps like phone and mail, and having direct access to the send, attach 
media, and predictions buttons in the mesages app makes everything that 
much speedier and efficient. If productivity is what you're after, I'd 
strongly recommend you give the speedDots screen protectors a try.

On 2/21/2016 6:05 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Hi all,

When I was asked about these, it kind of took me by surprise.  I got my first 
iPhone the first week that the first accessible model, the 3GS, came out.  At 
that time of course there was no such thing as a tactile cover, so I learned to 
use my phone without one.  I'd be curious to hear from those of you who do use 
them.  Which one do you use?  Have you always use a tactile cover?  If not, do 
you feel like using one improves your speed on the iPhone?
Cheers,
Donna



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Re: tactile covers for the iPhone 6S

[Rachel Feinberg]

They lay out everything quite nicely on their site; and they make 
products of excellent quality.

have a look at Speeddots' website:
http://www.speeddots.com/

On 2/20/2016 6:28 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Thank you, Alex.  I can find the website.
Cheers,
Donna

On Feb 20, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

I don't recall the website, but SpeedDots is the company you want to look at. 
They offer protectors with just a few dots or a bunch, in landscape and 
portrait.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 20, 2016, at 09:23, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Hi all,

Yesterday I spoke with a blind elderly woman who is thinking about getting her 
first iPhone.  She wondered about tactile covers with dots that could help her 
orient herself.  I know these exist, but don't use one myself, so wasn't sure 
where to direct her.  Can anyone recommend such a cover and tell me where she 
might get it?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Can't delete apps from my iPad mini

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Hi Mary,

See if by some strange accidental press of a button, you enabled 
restrictions. You'll find this in settings>general>restrictions. If that 
has gotten turned on, that will (if the correct option is selected), 
make deleting apps not possible as you restricted it.

HTH!
Rachel.

On 1/11/2016 8:53 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

I recall seeing on one of these lists a thread regarding the inability to 
delete apps from phone which also has the 3D Touch. However, I don't have that 
problem with my iPhone. I have been able to delete apps.
However, this morning I went to delete some apps from my iPad mini, which is 
running the latest iOS. I double tap and hold, get the tone, and get the 
announcement that application X is editing. At this point, I expect to be able 
to double tap on the app and then flick to a delete and confirm. However, 
nothing happens I double tap, and things stay as they are, no change. Nothing. 
What am I doing wrong. I checked the rotor to see if somehow I had missed the 
introduction of an action item. Nothing there. I need to get some stuff off of 
my mini, and can't do it. Help!
Mary


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Re: Please could someone provide tips on how to aim the camera in order for Goggles and other such stuff to work

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Make sure the camera is above the document or object, about 6-8 inches 
(15-20 CM), or about the distance from your elbow to your hand. So, put 
your elbow on a flat surface, and hold the phone as noted. Start by 
putting the phone flat against the object if possible, then raising it 
up to the position noted above. If you take a picture at that point, you 
may have good results, though it's kind of an art and does necessitate a 
bit of practice.

Best!
Rachel.

On 1/6/2016 12:13 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hello,
Ok, time to stop telling myself and others how stupid i am and do something 
constructive about this, so that’s what i’m trying to do here.
Could someone please give some advise/tips on how to correctly aim the camera 
so that things like Talking Goggles and Camfind and more such things actually 
work? I don’t have a clue about this and am probably doing something wrong.
I know that the camera is in the upper right corner of the phone, in my case an 
iPhone 6S + but i want to know how to aim it correctly if there’s even such a 
word as correctly in this case.
Any tips will be appreciated.
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Re: Gesture to end dictation on iPhone?

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Hi Paul,

when you're finished with your dictation, try a 2-finger double-tap and 
that should end it, while keeping you in whatever field you were 
inputting text in.

Best,
Rachel.

On 12/18/2015 4:16 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
I find dictation on the iPhone 5S really useful for text messages, Emails and 
Calendar.
Is there a VoiceOver friendly gesture to end dictation? the guidance on 
dictation is to tap the done button on the virtual keyboard but dictation seems 
to turn the VoiceOver volume down so that I cannot easily find the done button. 
So I have been ending dictation by pressing the home button. that certainly 
ends dictation but takes me out of the App I am using and I then have to get 
back to that App. Is there a better way?
Many thanks.

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Re: Spotify of Mac

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Hi Janine,

Here is a post I've done on applevis (with accompanying audio demo) on 
how to navigate Spotify on the Mac using the keyboard.


It seems the key to navigating the Spotify app is via frames. If you 
press command+L to get to the search field, (it's best to navigate the 
page with quick nav off), make sure to press command+A to select all and 
delete it, just in case there was text in the field you weren't  aware 
of. Put in your search term and press enter. Now, to get to the search 
results, press control+option+command+F. (VO+F). this will move you 
forward to the next frame. Interact with the frame, it will say "search 
frame" and vo+right arrow to the artists, or albums you wish to see. 
there's, at first, an unlabeled link, then the name of the 
artist/album/song, then, depending on what you're  looking for, the name 
of the artist. for example, if you were  looking for a song, you'll see 
the song title as a link, and then if you vo+right arrow again, you'll  
see the name of the artist/band. If you want to play said song, vo+space 
on the link, then navigate to the next frame, (VO+Command+F), and it 
will get you to the specifics. Interact with this, and navigate to the 
"play" button. At this point, you can (if you wish), turn on quick 
navigation by pressing left/right arrows at the same time, and press "b" 
to get to the "play" button. You can also tab a few times and you will 
be presented with a table of songs, either from an album you're  
listening to, or various songs with the same title by an artist, 
depending on your search. I've  created a short audio demo of Spotify 
searching, perhaps it will help:

https://audioboom.com/boos/3300081-spotify-accessibility-on-the-mac

Hope this helps.
Rachel.
On 11/18/2015 3:37 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

Hi,
That is not the problem here. This VO Spotify App is what makes it 
accessible, yes. The problem here is that Spotify uses Chromeium AKA 
same as Google Chrome for it's webpage display area, and VoiceOver 
does not like Chrome under El Capitan for some reason.
I do, know however, that this method does work, as I used it under 
Yosemite.

Hope this helps,
Jeffrey

On 11/18/2015 6:08 PM, Vaughn Brown wrote:

Hi,
It sounds like this app may not be accessible.
Vaughn

On 11/18/15, Janine Smith  wrote:


Hi.



I am trying to use the Spotify app on my Macbook Air running OSX 
10.11.1.  I


downloaded the Spotify App and the zip file from Applevis that turns on
accessibility.  I managed to log into my account but now Voiceover just
keeps saying empty html content when I try to interact with the 
Spotify app.


If I press command l it will bring up the search box whereupon I can 
input
a search but as soon as I press enter I get a number of frames all 
of which


tell me empty html content when I try to interact with them.



I have tried to access settings, both from the menu on the search 
page and
by going to preferences in the Spotify menu, but again I get the 
message

about empty html content when I try to navigate that page.



I have tried both in normal and full screen mode.  I also tried 
deleting
and then re-downloading and installing the voSpotify application but 
still

get the same result.



What am I doing wrong?  Any ideas on how I can get this to work 
would be

greatly appreciated.



Before anyone suggests Apple Music as an alternative, I thought I 
would try


Spotify first as it has a free option when my trial period is over.



Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Many thanks in advance for any
assistance you can provide.



Regards Janine

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Re: i think my settings are wrong

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Try to turn cursor tracking on by pressing vo+shift+F3. 
Control+option+shift+F3. If cursor tracking is on, then let us know, and 
we'll continue troubleshooting.



On 11/17/2015 5:39 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:


Ok guys all my problems I think are coming from wrong settings.Why do 
I say this?Well I’m in voiceover utility and I hear initial position 
of voiceover cursor, so I vo left and I hear keyboard focused itempop 
up button, I vo spacebar and voiceover says your currently on a menu 
item, to choose this item press vo space to close this menu press 
escape.I press escape and nothing happends.Someone mentioned the 
cursor tracking might be causing these troubles I’m having well 
everything in this section seems to be checked, what do I do?


I have no idea what to set which way any help

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Re: Changing Voiceover Keys.

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You can lock the option and control keys by pressing control+option+semicolon. 
Press this key combination again to unlock them. If you press the left/down 
arrow, you will stop interacting with an area, and the right/down arrow, will 
allow you to interact.
 
> On Jul 28, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Sunshine  wrote:
> 
> Ok, have a question is there a way a person could only have to use one vo key 
> when doing the vo comands like vo shift down arrow ect?
> someone said this could be done with the numpad comander, or key comander but 
> not sure how to do this?
> also someone told me you could lock them down but when doing this if you want 
> to select text or do other things that the vo keys aren't used for then what 
> would happen and what would you do about it?
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Re: Having issues adding songs to a playlist in apple music.

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi,

I've only just come to kind of, sort of, get a grip with the playlists 
in Apple Music- so I can try to help!
I go to the "new" button in iTunes, and select that I want a new 
playlist. then it puts me in a scroll area, (if doing this on the Mac), 
and you interact with that. You then have the name of your playlist as a 
header, and another area. you'll want to interact with the header. you 
get options like, play, shuffle, and so on. In this case, you want to 
find the "edit" button. Then you can add songs or albums to the list. 
You'll want to make sure your iCloud music library is checked, as it 
seems Apple Music and your own music must be in there, in order for a 
playlist to be created.
to do this, go to preferences (command+comma), and in the general area, 
make sure you're signed into the same apple ID that you have the music 
membership with, and make sure that iCloud library is checked.
Assuming all that checks out, you are back in what Voiceover calls the 
"album grid". Choose an album that you want from there, and vo+shift+M 
on it to get additional options.
One of these is "add to playlist submenu" assuming you have other 
playlists. If you vo+space on that, you should (in theory), see all the 
playlists you have, including the empty one you're now trying to fill 
with songs. Do this with as many albums as you want, and scroll all the 
way to the right when finished to hit the "done" button.
If everything is working as it should be, your playlist should appear in 
the "playlists" tab in apple Music.

Good luck!
Rachel.

On 7/14/2015 6:10 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

Hi,
unfortunately I can’t help but I can confirm having issues like you described. 
Here it happened several times that playlists didn’t apear on the iphone even 
though it was on the Mac and just filled with songs from Apple Music. I 
unchecked iCloud in iTunes settings and checked it again. Now the playlists 
were on my iPhone but lost all 60 songs I already added. Very annoying and 
frustrating.
Hopefully Apple will solve this issues soon.
All the best
Jürgen

Am 14.07.2015 um 14:37 schrieb Jessica Moss :

I've just added several albums to my library in apple music, told it to allow me to play them off line, and 
now want to add certain tracks to a playlist, but when I try to do that, it just says "empty list." 
 I already selected the "create geneus playlist," for one of the items, thinking that was what I 
needed to do, which it created and added one track I didn't want added, then tried adding other stuff to it, 
but still get the "empty list," dialogue box, when I try to do that, and nothing else comes up 
other than to cancel it.  Can anyone help here?

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Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

[Rachel Feinberg]

Make sure bluetooth is on, and you can do this by pressing backspace+th.

On 7/11/2015 5:03 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

Sorry the Braille sense plus was what I updated.

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Sent: July 10, 2015 22:25
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Subject: Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

 Update for what? The BSP or the iPhone?

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 7/10/2015 6:29 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

Thank you, I was missing one step. However does anyone on the list know if with 
the latest update something happened to the terminal for screen reader mode? It 
does not seem to be activating on my machine and it was this morning prior to 
the update.

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Subject: Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

Hello,

First, put your Braille Sense Plus in terminal for screen reader mode by doing 
the following:
Go to the utilities menu by pressing "u" from the main menu, and press "S" for 
"terminal for screen reader".
You'll be presented with a list of options, choose "bluetooth serial port" and 
press enter.
The unit will say "connecting..." and eventually, "terminal mode". Now, you're 
ready to go to your phone.
Go to settings>general>accessibility>voiceover>braille and scroll to the bottom of the 
screen where it will say "choose a braille display".
You should see "Braille Sense Plus not paired", at this point, double-tap on this, and in 
a couple seconds, you'll be presented with a text field, in which you can type in 4 digits for the 
pin code. They can be any 4 you want, and when you press the pair button in the right-hand corner 
of your screen, the message "pin code:" should appear on your Braille Sense's display.
Enter in the same digits you put in on your phone without any number sign, and 
in nemeth braille code. Press dot 8, (enter), and in a second or 2, your unit 
and your phone should pair successfully.
Rachel.
On 7/10/2015 7:27 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

Morning list members, I seem to have forgotten how to pair my Braille
Sense plus with my iPhone 5s running 8.4 can someone point me to a
write up or podcast? thank you.


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Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello,

First, put your Braille Sense Plus in terminal for screen reader mode by 
doing the following:
Go to the utilities menu by pressing "u" from the main menu, and press 
"S" for "terminal for screen reader".
You'll be presented with a list of options, choose "bluetooth serial 
port" and press enter.
The unit will say "connecting..." and eventually, "terminal mode". Now, 
you're ready to go to your phone.
Go to settings>general>accessibility>voiceover>braille and scroll to the 
bottom of the screen where it will say "choose a braille display".
You should see "Braille Sense Plus not paired", at this point, 
double-tap on this, and in a couple seconds, you'll be presented with a 
text field, in which you can type in 4 digits for the pin code. They can 
be any 4 you want, and when you press the pair button in the right-hand 
corner of your screen, the message "pin code:" should appear on your 
Braille Sense's display.
Enter in the same digits you put in on your phone without any number 
sign, and in nemeth braille code. Press dot 8, (enter), and in a second 
or 2, your unit and your phone should pair successfully.

Rachel.
On 7/10/2015 7:27 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
Morning list members, I seem to have forgotten how to pair my Braille 
Sense plus with my iPhone 5s running 8.4 can someone point me to a 
write up or podcast? thank you.




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Re: Braille With A Mac?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Eileen,

The “at” sign seems to be a dot 4 pressed in conjunction with a dot 7. As for 
capitals, if you have contracted braille on, (press G-chord to toggle this), if 
you press a dot 6 before the letter you want to capitalize, it seems to 
translate as a capital letter.
HTH!
Rachel.
Hi 
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthew,
>  
> Thank you.  I’m using a Brailliant.  I will check out where the settings are. 
>  I am having Braille input issues, however, that I suspect will not be 
> located in on-line help. 
>  
> For the life of me I cannot on the display enter an at-sign (@) and am not 
> sure if letters are capitolized as they usually are in Braille or if a chord 
> must follow a letter that needs capitolization.
>  
> Thanks again.
>  
> Eileen
>  
> From: Matthew Dierckens 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:24 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Braille With A Mac?
>  
> Hi Eileen,
> I can't remember what Braile display you told me that you have when we did 
> training, but if you go into the "Displays" tab under the "Braille" category 
> of VoiceOver utility, you can hit the "Assign Commands" button, and examine 
> all of the supported commands.
> 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com 
>  
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 19:15, Eileen Scrivani  > wrote:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Does anyone know where I might locate a comprehensive list of Braille 
> commands for use with a refreshable display on a Mac Book Pro as well as for 
> use with an IPhone?  I have the list of commonly used commands, but find it 
> is not cutting it for me.
>  
> Thanks for any pointers in the right direction.
>  
> Eileen
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Re: Clean installation of Yosemite stalled

[Rachel Feinberg]

There's a command you can paste into terminal and assuming you have the OS 
installer,it does the rest.

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> What program did you use to create a bootible drive?
> 
> Sent from my MobileOffice
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I appreciate this information so much! I did what one person from here 
>> suggested, held down the option key as the computer was booting, played the 
>> “let’s guess which drive the Mac will boot from” game, and landed on my 
>> bootable drive! I waited a bit, started Voiceover, and it did allow me to 
>> install Yosemite.
>> Added to that, the restoration  from a Time machine backup, and things seem 
>> to be working nicely!
>> Thank you again for all your help and advice. One thing I did read is you 
>> can press C when the Mac boots up to force it to start from any external 
>> bootable media. That would’ve been my next plan if the option and right 
>> arrow course of action hadn’t of worked.
>> Rachel. 
>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Erik Heil  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Do you wireless information is stored within NV RAM. As such, if you have 
>>> previously entered security of mission for wireless networks, it is 
>>> automatically entered. It will automatically connect to a wireless network 
>>> if it has previously associated it with your iCloud account. For more 
>>> information, if you view the deed it with a and B RAM, you'll see network 
>>> he's related to the wireless networks if you have any. Of course, this 
>>> information is encrypted, but like I said before, it is see with them in 
>>> the room. If you actually were to clear and we ramp settings, 
>>> disinformation would not be available, and as such, some system values 
>>> which are stored within and be ram will be restored to their factory 
>>> defaults.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, it does use the Internet to connect to Apple’s servers.  Info on this 
>>>> is found here...
>>>> 
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201314
>>>> 
>>>> I haven’t tried it, but, I’m guessing that the initial place where you 
>>>> need to select a wireless network probably isn’t accessible since there’s 
>>>> been no real base System to load VO from.  If you live in a place where 
>>>> there’s no other WiFi networks visible, then you should be able to enter 
>>>> your WiFi password and move on.  If there are many WiFi networks close by, 
>>>> this may be difficult without sighted assistance.  I guess a person could 
>>>> arrow down once, press return then enter your WiFi password, then wait 
>>>> five or so minutes to see if the base System is downloaded to your 
>>>> machine, then move on if that doesn’t work by trying two down arrows and 
>>>> so on.  This could take you quite a while and be very frustrating, but it 
>>>> may be your only option if you don’t have access to sighted assistance.
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:48, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> thanks for this tip! In trying it I haven't had luck so far, however, just 
>>>> wondering if this contacts Apple's servers, does this require internet 
>>>> connectivity? And if nothing is installed, it'd make connecting difficult. 
>>>> If, in fact, that's what's needed.
>>>>> On 4/22/2015 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, you likely have affected the Recovery Partition.  Try starting with 
>>>>> cmd-option-r which should start up from Apple’s servers.  It may take a 
>>>>> little longer to boot up, but you should be able to install from there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:30, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A quick question on clean installing OS X. I wanted to clean install 
>>>>> bef

Re: Clean installation of Yosemite stalled

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello all,

I appreciate this information so much! I did what one person from here 
suggested, held down the option key as the computer was booting, played the 
“let’s guess which drive the Mac will boot from” game, and landed on my 
bootable drive! I waited a bit, started Voiceover, and it did allow me to 
install Yosemite.
 Added to that, the restoration  from a Time machine backup, and things seem to 
be working nicely!
Thank you again for all your help and advice. One thing I did read is you can 
press C when the Mac boots up to force it to start from any external bootable 
media. That would’ve been my next plan if the option and right arrow course of 
action hadn’t of worked.
Rachel. 
> On Apr 22, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Erik Heil  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Do you wireless information is stored within NV RAM. As such, if you have 
> previously entered security of mission for wireless networks, it is 
> automatically entered. It will automatically connect to a wireless network if 
> it has previously associated it with your iCloud account. For more 
> information, if you view the deed it with a and B RAM, you'll see network 
> he's related to the wireless networks if you have any. Of course, this 
> information is encrypted, but like I said before, it is see with them in the 
> room. If you actually were to clear and we ramp settings, disinformation 
> would not be available, and as such, some system values which are stored 
> within and be ram will be restored to their factory defaults.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it does use the Internet to connect to Apple’s servers.  Info on this 
>> is found here...
>> 
>> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201314
>> 
>> I haven’t tried it, but, I’m guessing that the initial place where you need 
>> to select a wireless network probably isn’t accessible since there’s been no 
>> real base System to load VO from.  If you live in a place where there’s no 
>> other WiFi networks visible, then you should be able to enter your WiFi 
>> password and move on.  If there are many WiFi networks close by, this may be 
>> difficult without sighted assistance.  I guess a person could arrow down 
>> once, press return then enter your WiFi password, then wait five or so 
>> minutes to see if the base System is downloaded to your machine, then move 
>> on if that doesn’t work by trying two down arrows and so on.  This could 
>> take you quite a while and be very frustrating, but it may be your only 
>> option if you don’t have access to sighted assistance.
>> 
>> Sorry.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:48, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> thanks for this tip! In trying it I haven't had luck so far, however, just 
>> wondering if this contacts Apple's servers, does this require internet 
>> connectivity? And if nothing is installed, it'd make connecting difficult. 
>> If, in fact, that's what's needed.
>>> On 4/22/2015 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yes, you likely have affected the Recovery Partition.  Try starting with 
>>> cmd-option-r which should start up from Apple’s servers.  It may take a 
>>> little longer to boot up, but you should be able to install from there.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:30, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> A quick question on clean installing OS X. I wanted to clean install before 
>>> putting Yosemite on my Macbook Air. I made a bootable drive, booted into 
>>> the recovery partition by holding down command+R then pressing command+F5 
>>> until Voiceover started up and I could format the Macintosh HD. I clicked 
>>> on the size, (128 GB Apple SSD), and chose to erase it. Could it be 
>>> possible that I've inadvertently erased the recovery partition?
>>> As I then went back to the utilities table, chose to re-install OS X, which 
>>> turned out to be Mavericks. As I didn't wish to install this version, I 
>>> shut down the computer, restarted it and attempted to get back into 
>>> recovery mode, but no dice this time. I'm unable to get VO to start, and 
>>> even accessing the boot menyu with the option key and pressing right arrow 
>>> once or twice and pressing enter to boot from the external media is a no-go.
>>> I've read several archives from this list

Re: Clean installation of Yosemite stalled

[Rachel Feinberg]

thanks much. this information has been quite helpful.


On 4/22/2015 10:59 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Yes, it does use the Internet to connect to Apple’s servers.  Info on this is 
found here...

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201314

I haven’t tried it, but, I’m guessing that the initial place where you need to 
select a wireless network probably isn’t accessible since there’s been no real 
base System to load VO from.  If you live in a place where there’s no other 
WiFi networks visible, then you should be able to enter your WiFi password and 
move on.  If there are many WiFi networks close by, this may be difficult 
without sighted assistance.  I guess a person could arrow down once, press 
return then enter your WiFi password, then wait five or so minutes to see if 
the base System is downloaded to your machine, then move on if that doesn’t 
work by trying two down arrows and so on.  This could take you quite a while 
and be very frustrating, but it may be your only option if you don’t have 
access to sighted assistance.

Sorry.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:48, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

Hi Tim,

thanks for this tip! In trying it I haven't had luck so far, however, just 
wondering if this contacts Apple's servers, does this require internet 
connectivity? And if nothing is installed, it'd make connecting difficult. If, 
in fact, that's what's needed.
On 4/22/2015 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Yes, you likely have affected the Recovery Partition.  Try starting with 
cmd-option-r which should start up from Apple’s servers.  It may take a little 
longer to boot up, but you should be able to install from there.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:30, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

Hi all,

A quick question on clean installing OS X. I wanted to clean install before 
putting Yosemite on my Macbook Air. I made a bootable drive, booted into the 
recovery partition by holding down command+R then pressing command+F5 until 
Voiceover started up and I could format the Macintosh HD. I clicked on the 
size, (128 GB Apple SSD), and chose to erase it. Could it be possible that I've 
inadvertently erased the recovery partition?
As I then went back to the utilities table, chose to re-install OS X, which 
turned out to be Mavericks. As I didn't wish to install this version, I shut 
down the computer, restarted it and attempted to get back into recovery mode, 
but no dice this time. I'm unable to get VO to start, and even accessing the 
boot menyu with the option key and pressing right arrow once or twice and 
pressing enter to boot from the external media is a no-go.
I've read several archives from this list that say to wait different amounts of 
time before attempting to start Voiceover in the recovery partition, and none 
have worked. I understand this partition is hidden, but I wonder if by clicking 
on, and erasing the size of the drive, instead of the Macintosh HD partition, 
I've slipped out of the grasp of the recovery partition's help?
Any advice, or pointers on things I might have missed would be greatly 
appreciated.
Thanks!
Rachel.



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Re: Clean installation of Yosemite stalled

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Tim,

thanks for this tip! In trying it I haven't had luck so far, however, 
just wondering if this contacts Apple's servers, does this require 
internet connectivity? And if nothing is installed, it'd make connecting 
difficult. If, in fact, that's what's needed.

On 4/22/2015 10:37 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Yes, you likely have affected the Recovery Partition.  Try starting with 
cmd-option-r which should start up from Apple’s servers.  It may take a little 
longer to boot up, but you should be able to install from there.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 22, 2015, at 11:30, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

Hi all,

A quick question on clean installing OS X. I wanted to clean install before 
putting Yosemite on my Macbook Air. I made a bootable drive, booted into the 
recovery partition by holding down command+R then pressing command+F5 until 
Voiceover started up and I could format the Macintosh HD. I clicked on the 
size, (128 GB Apple SSD), and chose to erase it. Could it be possible that I've 
inadvertently erased the recovery partition?
As I then went back to the utilities table, chose to re-install OS X, which 
turned out to be Mavericks. As I didn't wish to install this version, I shut 
down the computer, restarted it and attempted to get back into recovery mode, 
but no dice this time. I'm unable to get VO to start, and even accessing the 
boot menyu with the option key and pressing right arrow once or twice and 
pressing enter to boot from the external media is a no-go.
I've read several archives from this list that say to wait different amounts of 
time before attempting to start Voiceover in the recovery partition, and none 
have worked. I understand this partition is hidden, but I wonder if by clicking 
on, and erasing the size of the drive, instead of the Macintosh HD partition, 
I've slipped out of the grasp of the recovery partition's help?
Any advice, or pointers on things I might have missed would be greatly 
appreciated.
Thanks!
Rachel.



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Clean installation of Yosemite stalled

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi all,

A quick question on clean installing OS X. I wanted to clean install 
before putting Yosemite on my Macbook Air. I made a bootable drive, 
booted into the recovery partition by holding down command+R then 
pressing command+F5 until Voiceover started up and I could format the 
Macintosh HD. I clicked on the size, (128 GB Apple SSD), and chose to 
erase it. Could it be possible that I've inadvertently erased the 
recovery partition?
As I then went back to the utilities table, chose to re-install OS X, 
which turned out to be Mavericks. As I didn't wish to install this 
version, I shut down the computer, restarted it and attempted to get 
back into recovery mode, but no dice this time. I'm unable to get VO to 
start, and even accessing the boot menyu with the option key and 
pressing right arrow once or twice and pressing enter to boot from the 
external media is a no-go.
I've read several archives from this list that say to wait different 
amounts of time before attempting to start Voiceover in the recovery 
partition, and none have worked. I understand this partition is hidden, 
but I wonder if by clicking on, and erasing the size of the drive, 
instead of the Macintosh HD partition, I've slipped out of the grasp of 
the recovery partition's help?
Any advice, or pointers on things I might have missed would be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks!
Rachel.

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Re: Closing apps in iOS with a bluetooth keyboard, app recommendations.

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi,

Try control+option+shift+M to simulate a double tap and hold, then a 
control+option+space to double tap once the "editing apps" screen comes up.



On 4/12/2015 1:23 AM, John Schucker wrote:
Hey all. Just got a Logitech keys-to-go keyboard for my iThingy. Nice 
keyboard, they're covered with plastic to prevent spills or such from 
damaging the thing, but it's got a pretty good feel. No escape key 
though, so far as I can tell. Other than that, it's specifically for 
iOS devices, so it's got option and cmd keys, so all the VO shortcuts 
work.


Anyway, I've paired it and messed with it a little, and it works great 
from what I can tell, this is under iOS 6.whatever. Is there a way to 
close apps from the keyboard? I can get into the app switcher just 
fine, I just don't know what the equivalent of double tap and hold is, 
or if something else works. cmd-Q doesn't seem to do it.


Also, any app recommendations for the keyboard? As an example, frotz 
is awesome with a keyboard, way more playable than trying to type 
commands in on the screen. So I'd definitely recommend it if you like 
text games and have a keyboard. I know I want to check out stuff for 
FB and Twitter, but I can just browse Apple Vis for that.




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Re: IoS 8.3, strange behavior

[Rachel Feinberg]

Yes, this is happening on my iPhone 5 as well. However, if you swipe 
left beyond the "swipe down with 3 fingers to reveal the notification 
center ..." the phone says (in my case), "3 of 5 bars signal strength" 
but doesn't give the name of my phone carrier.



On 4/11/2015 12:15 AM, Shen wrote:

I updated my iPhone 6 yesterday to iOS 8.3 and immediately noticed something a 
little strange. It doesn't affect how iOS or the phone works, but the fact that 
this is even possible is very strange, and a little funny.

If you updated your phone to iOS 8.3, try the following:
First, remember that at the top of the screen, where your status is, 1 of the items 
is your network. This tells you the name of the network you are using, AT&T, 
Verizon, Virgin Mobile, etc.
Now open 1 of the following apps: Calendar, Notes, Weather, Music, Photos, or 
Reminders. These are the apps I've tested so far.
With 1 of these apps open, now check your network name again. Does VoiceOver 
still say the name of your network?
Mine does not. Visually, my phone is still showing the name of my network. But VoiceOver 
says, "Swipe down with 3 fingers to reveal the Notification Center. Swipe up with 3 
fingers to reveal the Control Center. Double tap to scroll to top".

So far, I've been able to verify this rather interesting behavior with 3 iPhone 
6's. I'm going to try it on a 6 Plus shortly.

I'd like to know if anyone else is haring VoiceOver saying the same thing to 
them.

Might be another call to Apple Accessibility.



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Re: Text Detective, can'tget out of tutorial

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi,

If you swipe left with 3 fingers after the 4th page, you'll get an alert 
asking if Text Detective can use your camera. If you ok that, then 
you'll be presented with a "start" button.

Have fun!


On 4/7/2015 5:55 PM, Todor Fassl wrote:
Weirdest problem ever. I bought the OCR program Text Detective a while 
ago. I don't know if it was updated recently or what but when I run it 
now, I get a tutorial but I just cannot figure out how to get out of it.


The tutorial is 4 pages and I can go from page to page by swiping with 
3 fingers but there just doesn't seem to be a button for getting back 
to the main application. Crazy.





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Re: how do I enable first letter navigateon on web pages again

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Ted,

Go to voiceover utility (Vo+f8) and travel down to the commanders 
category. Head to the quick nav tab and make sure the checkbox that says 
"enable single-key navigation" is checked.



On 4/3/2015 5:55 AM, ted phillips wrote:

HI all.  I had to reset my voiceover preferences with the direction of Apple 
accessibility yesterday.  After this, I can no longer navigate web pages using 
one letter navigation.  Can someone tell me how to enable this again?  Thanks 
all.

Ted Phillips



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Re: Talking dashboard help.

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Stacey,

To add a script to your keyboard commander, you’ll do the following:
Access your keyboard commander area by going to vo Utility, commanders, 
keyboard. Activate the add button, and then choose a key you’d like to be 
pressed in conjunction with the option key to access the download notifier 
script.
Then you’ll click on the command menu button, and go down to custom commands 
which is a sub menu.
You’ll go to the option that says run apple script.
Activate that, and you’ll be put in a standard finder dialog where you can 
access the file. Wherever you put the script folder, you’ll need to browse to 
that, and then choose the file that’s called, download notifier. 
Press enter, and the command should be set. So the next time you press option 
and your selected key for that script, it should speak the information.
HTH,
Rachel. 
On Mar 5, 2015, at 6:18 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> Alex,
> Can you send me the steps on how to add a script to my keyboard commander 
> again?
> I did this with the battery status but would like to add others in the file 
> such as download info.
> I do not remember how I did this.
> Thanks for any help
> 
> Feel free to write privately.
> 
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>   
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Rod Skene  wrote:
>> 
>> I am running Yosemite 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse any errors.
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Mostly, the scripts rely on shell commands. For instance, I ask the "top" 
>>> command for CPU information, and the "memstat" command for ram details, and 
>>> iReg for battery, and so on. Once I get the results, I grab the bits I 
>>> need, and return those (all this happens in the Get Info.scpt file, which 
>>> is why it *must* be int the same folder as the scripts).
>>> 
>>> Then, I have the raw information, like the amount of ram or the battery 
>>> level, and I give it back to the script that asked for it. The script then 
>>> gives all that raw data, plus the template, to a couple functions in 
>>> Utilities.scpt (another required file). The raw data is paired up with 
>>> keywords, those keywords are sorted and searched for, any any that are 
>>> present are replaced. This is how $minutes turns into 15, for instance. 
>>> Once the template has been populated, the complete string is given back to 
>>> the script you ran, which asks Utilities.scpt to speak it. The speaking 
>>> part checks if VoiceOver is running; it tells VO to say the string if it 
>>> is, and tells the default system voice to do so if it's not.
 On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:53 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
 
 Hi Alex 
 I am under Yosemite, and have the latest update. I know how to use the 
 time and date file, and I know how to use the battery one. This is going 
 to sound like a really dumb question, but could you give me and some 
 others who are sort of in first grade when it comes to Apple script some 
 idea of what commands make the others work? Or, is that all in the read me 
 file that I read a long time ago? 
 
 Gigi 
 ? 
> On Mar 4, 2015, at 10:31 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Most of you know about what I (rather un-creatively) call Talking 
> Dashboard, a set of Applescript files that give you access to 
> information. There's a time/date one, one for battery, one for current 
> wifi status, and more. Most of you also know I've wanted to add a script 
> for upcoming reminders and calendar events, but I could never get it 
> working right, and I didn't like that it would always force Reminders or 
> Calendar to launch.
> 
> Well, the good news is that I can overcome both problems (most likely, 
> but no promises) by accessing the EKEventStore through Cocoa. If that's 
> Greek to you, the bottom line is that I can probably do this, but it 
> requires OS10.9 or later, maybe even 10.10 or later. I'm on 10.10, but 
> I'm wondering how many people this would affect? Existing scripts would 
> continue to work, but if I find a faster/easier way to do what they 
> currently do that also uses Cocoa, I'll do it. Plus, I could probably 
> revamp and expand the template system, since I would no longer need to 
> use my own hacked-together solution but could instead use a real, 
> Cocoa-based one. I'd probably archive what I have and put the existing 
> scripts in a subfolder, so those who can't run the new ones don't need 
> to, but I would no longer support them.
> 
> So, basically, if you use Talking Dashboard, on which version(s) of OS X 
> do you use it?
> 
> --
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> Alex Hall
> mehg...@icloud.com
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Re: Talking Dashboard Probably Going Mavericks Plus Only

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Alex,

I recently discovered your Talking Dashboard collection, and am using it on 
Mavericks at this time.
Thanks for keeping us informed of current and possible future plans for the 
project.
Rachel. 
On Mar 4, 2015, at 9:01 PM, The Believer  wrote:

> Alex,
>   Its all Greek to me indeed. But interesting. I am, and will for some time 
> still, running Mavericks.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 3/4/2015 8:31 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Most of you know about what I (rather un-creatively) call Talking Dashboard, 
>> a set of Applescript files that give you access to information. There's a 
>> time/date one, one for battery, one for current wifi status, and more. Most 
>> of you also know I've wanted to add a script for upcoming reminders and 
>> calendar events, but I could never get it working right, and I didn't like 
>> that it would always force Reminders or Calendar to launch.
>> 
>> Well, the good news is that I can overcome both problems (most likely, but 
>> no promises) by accessing the EKEventStore through Cocoa. If that's Greek to 
>> you, the bottom line is that I can probably do this, but it requires OS10.9 
>> or later, maybe even 10.10 or later. I'm on 10.10, but I'm wondering how 
>> many people this would affect? Existing scripts would continue to work, but 
>> if I find a faster/easier way to do what they currently do that also uses 
>> Cocoa, I'll do it. Plus, I could probably revamp and expand the template 
>> system, since I would no longer need to use my own hacked-together solution 
>> but could instead use a real, Cocoa-based one. I'd probably archive what I 
>> have and put the existing scripts in a subfolder, so those who can't run the 
>> new ones don't need to, but I would no longer support them.
>> 
>> So, basically, if you use Talking Dashboard, on which version(s) of OS X do 
>> you use it?
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex Hall
>> mehg...@icloud.com
>> 
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Re: enabling message forwarding to my macbook pro

[Rachel Feinberg]

If you go to the app store on your iPhone, and to the “featured” tab, flick 
left, and you’ll see your Apple ID listed. Activate it, and go to “sign out”. 
Then you can sign back in.
Good luck,
rachel. 
On Dec 27, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Joe Quinn  wrote:

> I had the same exact issue. Sign in and out of your Apple ID on your iPhone. 
> I don't remember exactly how I did it, I had to end up calling Apple.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My iphone 5C is driving me crazy.  i'm trying to enable message forwarding 
>> to my macbook pro.  On my iphone 5C that runs the latest iOS, I go to 
>> settings and messaging.  Under the item allowing such message forwarding, I 
>> have already two other devices enabled for this, my ipad and macbook air.  
>> Now, my macbook pro is listed there too but is turned off. I tap the button 
>> to turn  it on, I get a message to enter the code that shows on my macbook 
>> pro.  But there is no such code showing on my macbook pro.  What's going on? 
>>  I'm connected to the same wifi, I have bluetooth on, all the devices are 
>> signed into the same icloud account.  My messages and calls are forwarded to 
>> my ipad and macbook air successfully but not to my macbook pro.  By the way, 
>> I run Yosemite on both.  Any tips please?
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: High fan activity-.

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi,

Try resetting your system management controller (SMC). This can help 
high fan performance decrease. Do this:

"1. Shut down the computer.
2. Unplug the computer's power cord.
3. Wait fifteen seconds.
4. Attach the computer's power cord.
5. Wait five seconds, then press the power button to turn on the 
computer."


Source:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3964
Rachel.

On 10/19/2014 9:22 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Yesterday when i ran safari and listened to a stream through airplay i found 
out that my fan on my mac mini was at quite high speed.
This never happend when i used mavericks.
Not sure whats going on but it seems like safari is a process user on Yousemite.
Ok, my mac is a mid 2011 but i’v  never had any problems with anything like 
this before.
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Re: yosemite mail removing address in mail from the suggested list as you type

[Rachel Feinberg]

Not sure if this has changed in Yosemite, but you may be able to find 
the auto-complete list that apple Mail builds within the Window menu.


On 10/18/2014 10:19 PM, Donald Bishop wrote:

Yes, that works, but I have a user which is no longer valid which comes up 
while I’m typing and it’s kind of distracting.  I know there’s a way to get rid 
of that address, but not sure what it is.

Thanks anyway for the reply,
Don

On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

I just keep typing until only the one I want is left. Doesn't this work for you?

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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
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On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:03 AM, Donald Bishop  wrote:

Has anyone figured out how to remove a suggestion from the list as you type in 
the “to” field of a new message?
I did this under Mavericks and either I’ve forgotten how to do it or the 
procedure has changed.

Thanks,
Don

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Re: About making calls from my Mac using my Iphone

[Rachel Feinberg]

If you go below the choice on the mac that says the iPhone is dimmed, 
you should see the number (if it is a number), that you've chosen to call.

Rachel.
On 10/18/2014 11:54 AM, Joseph wrote:

No Go!
Hello folks.
Well here’s the summery.
I switched off the Wi-Fi on my iPhone. After about a minute or so, I restarted 
it.
All items on the iPhone in FaceTime are active including using cel phone. 
Everything is checked in FaceTime on my iMac. When I go to make a call, the 
choice for cel phone is dimmed out.
Again, the iMac is a mid 2010 27 inch unit. The iPhone is a 4S. In both cases, 
the latest OS is running.
But No Go.
At this point I give up as far as using the iMac to make calls over the cel 
phone using Wi-Fi.



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Re: Computer will not boot

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Kristeen,

I don't know if this is accessible, but in looking up keyboard shortcuts for 
starting up a Mac if something's not working properly, you can try holding down 
D at start up. It will start the apple hardware test, which may tell you 
something about your drives if they are connected.
Rachel. 
On Oct 14, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> Earlier today I noticed that my computer could not see my two external drives 
> which were connected via USB. I decided a reboot was in order, since most of 
> the time this fixes that type of an issue. There was no voice over when the 
> computer restarted. I was unable to tell whether the computer booted all the 
> way or not because of having no speech. I tried rebooting several more times, 
> but the result was still the same.I disconnected all peripherals, and was 
> able to boot into recovery mode. I went into disk utilities and repaired the 
> disk. There seemed to be no problem with the disc. The computer will still 
> not reboot.
> 
> Is there anything else I can try in recovery mode? Is there any other way I 
> can reboot the computer that will give me other diagnostic tools? Thank you 
> for any help anyone can provide.
> 
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Re: Formatting drive

[Rachel Feinberg]

there should be an erase tab when you select the drive from the table 
present disk utility application in the utilities folder.
Choosing this will allow you to format it and you have several options 
you can choose from the popup menu.


On 9/27/2014 9:58 AM, The Believer wrote:
When I formatted a 500gig drive, I think I used the options under the 
Partition tab and set seceuriy to 100%. It did not take long to format.


   Now am trying to format a new WD Passport 1t drive using the same 
options. Its going to take 17 hours?!?


   Before I start it over again, I would like to know how I should do 
this. Thanks.


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Re: Handoff on iPhone 4s

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello,

you can close the people section in the app switcher. To do this:
go to settings>mail, contacts, calendars. there's a section that says 
"show in app switcher" changing these options to off will take that 
section away.

I've not read whether this increases battery life.
Rachel. On 9/22/2014 6:11 AM, Jessica Moss wrote:

I plan on upgrading too as well, and not necessarily because I want to, but 
unfortunately because Sprint requires it in order to get their $50 unlimitted 
plan, which I'd love to have compared to their $60 one they already have that 
will save me some money in the longrun, but would be willing to settle for a 5s 
if need-be, considering the fact that sense upgrading to ios8, my 4s is now 
running a bit slower than it used to, which can be frustrating at times..  I 
love the features it has though, but am still having to play around with it 
though, but it seems to have more spoken feedback, which I like.
   Something I'm confused about though, does this "people," feature that always 
runs in the background consume your battery life, sense it runs in your app switcher and 
there's no way to close it?
On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:40 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:


Hi,
Please do not take my letter as bashing the OS for being an improvement on 
whatever Apple has had. It merely does not make sense to me no matter whether 
it's Apple or android that whatever equipment they claim is supported within an 
update cannot accept the entire update. I read the release notes. I took a 
chance. I am not complaining about what I did or didn't do. Apple along with 
any other manufacturer has a degree of planned obsolescence with any of their 
equipment. If within their beta testing and developer reviews, it would seem to 
me it would be more fair to the customer to disallow the update rather than 
give someone who is running an older  device a half-baked OS. With all the 
trade in  programs the carriers offer, there may be people who get used 
equipment at a discounted rate or for free who have never had experience with 
the apple ecosystem. That equipment may run the latest software, yet cannot 
make use of whatever features one may need.
I remember when Siri came out on the iPhone for S. At the time, the iPad 2 had 
a similar processor.  Yet it was claimed not to have had as good a microphone, 
and therefore could not have Siri. During the cycle of that equipment, we as 
Apple consumers were half promised we would get Siri in an iPad update. It 
never happened. Yep, there were and still are apps on the web that will serve 
the same purpose. Unless Apple has gotten really sloppy, they surely keep track 
of what apps are in and out of there App Store. In so doing, they know what 
people can use for what tasks.  It's a good OS. I only wish they would be a 
little more truthful with their consumers, especially given all of the changes 
that are made each year to their various equipment. As I said earlier, I would 
rather know upfront whether or not my equipment would except a given update or 
how many future updates it could conceivably except than have a half-baked 
product.
With the most recent release of the iPhone six and 6+, you and I both know they 
are at work on the next iteration of the OS. I'm going to upgrade. However, it 
would almost seem that be at Apple, Samsung, Motorola, etc. would have to tell 
a consumer in advance how many future updates that equipment can and will 
accept. If that were able to happen, the consumer, who in this economy, has to 
be conscious of his/her dollars would know what they were getting and how much 
use they would get for their money.
I'll close with a case in point. My 2013 Nexus seven will get android L. My 
2012 Lexus will not. I know that find up ahead of time to make a decision 
whether or not to replace my equipment.
Thank you ever so much for reading.
Pam Francis

On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

How would you be any better off if told your device didn't support the upgrade 
at all compared with being able to upgrade but not use all features? At least 
some of the features are available and some new features are surely better than 
no new features? Anyway, whether or not you upgrade is a choice. You're not 
forced to upgrade. I haven't and won't upgrade my 4S because I suspect iOS 8 
will run slower on it than iOS 7, and that's more important to me than the new 
features. And because of this I'll wait until I buy an iPhone 6 before using 
iOS 8. So I think it's a little disingenuous of you to choose to upgrade and 
then complain that you get some new features but not all, but then say you'd 
prefer to have no new features. Why don't you just read the release notes for 
which features are supported on which devices if you don't want to only have 
some features but not all?


On 22 Sep 2014, at 5:33 am, Pamela Francis  wrote:

Hi,
I am becoming very disenchanted with iOS and its fragmentation  when they 
release an update,  the feature 

Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Krister,

If you hold the phone 8-10 inches (20-25 CM) above the document, making 
sure the camera is centered above it, then you should get fairly 
accurate results. This is where the field of view report, and the tilt 
guidance come in extremely handy!
You don't need to turn your arm at awkward angles, if anything, you may 
need to raise, or lower the phone, move it backwards, or forwards, but 
nothing unnatural. Also, Make sure the phone has the same orientation as 
the document (portrait or landscape), and let the built-in guidance 
features help you orient the last bit if needed.

HTH,
Rachel.
On 9/21/2014 2:07 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn 
and get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the 
clock orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a 
bear with a very, very, vary little brain.

/Krister

21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley >:


I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked 
just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com 



On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg > wrote:



Hi!
So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction.
It can't turn the page virtually in the app.
/A
20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley >:


GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly 
good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of 
something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of 
mail under it, I tend to tip the phone.


The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. 
I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the 
material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that 
direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured 
that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at 
the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction 
to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. 😣

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com 



On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth > wrote:



Hi there
Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut 
it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure 
that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding 
the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review 
function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the 
time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to 
change my position.

Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender > wrote:


I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and 
reading about the results from others on the list.  I had the 
opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 
years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. 
 I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just 
after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old 
app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are 
a great help in lining up the camera.  I will add that I had not 
been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the 
iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera.  It really 
seems that they did a great job on writing an app which 
compensates for blind users.

 I plan to try more documents today.

On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth > wrote:


Hi Pete
You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB 
reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get 
the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. 
Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and 
I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option 
on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be 
to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my 
question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to 
work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old 
one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was?

Regards,
Gigi


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar > wrote:


Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works 
better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was 
today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly


Pete

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr 
mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:


Frankly, I could not agree more!!!  My flat bed scanning days 
are through:  or just about anyhow.  I never got such good 
results with the other OCR apps.  Not even with Abby Fine 
Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda s

Re: Voiceover settings

[Rachel Feinberg]

As Alex stated, the only area I'm familiar with Voiceover speaking at a 
slow rate is at log in, and with the Alex voice. If you've set other 
voice parameters to your preference, they should be honored system-wide.
If you could give us more examples of where the rate changes, that would 
be helpful in pinpointing what's happening.

Thanks,
Rachel.
On 9/20/2014 1:07 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
VoiceOver at login will always use Alex, and always at a slow rate, in 
my experience. I've never seen it do this elsewhere, except in system 
updates.
On Sep 20, 2014, at 2:48 PM, The Believer <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:



Rachel,
  This is not what I am talking about. VO works at login and 
elsewhere. But what I want to do is change how VO speaks everywhere. 
I am using the Alex voice and I have the speech rate pitch etc set 
the way it works best for me. These voice settings however are not 
honored system wide. Not at login and not in some dialogs tho at the 
moment I cannot pin down exactly where. I set Samantha as the system 
voice but she has yet to speak.


  Many people can run their speech at a fast rate, I cannot.

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On 9/20/2014 10:10 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:

Hi,

If you go to system preferences, users and groups, login options pain,
click the lock to make changes, enter in your admin password. Then tab
through that window and you'll see various options you can customize
when logging in. A chedkbox you'll want to see checked is Voiceover at
the logon window.
Hopefully this fixes your problem.
Rachel.
On 9/19/2014 8:56 PM, The Believer wrote:

Alex and Rachel,
  To Alex. You probably have your speech rate set higher than normal
human speech so you might not know when system related events is
announced. I have to slow it down so when I hear the system speech,
sometimes its hard to unbderstand.

  So per Rachel's suggestion, I went into system prefs, dictation and
speech, and changed system voice to Samantha (I am using Alex as the
normal voice). So far she is not speaking to me. She certainly is not
at login.

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On 9/18/2014 7:35 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

Can you give us an example of when this happens? I've never heard of
this, except at the login screen or during a system update.
On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:25 PM, Rachel Feinberg 
wrote:


Hi,

This sounds like you're hearing the system voice that's speaking
other  information.
You can change the rate of this by going into system
preferences>dictation and speech>text to speech tab, and in there
you'll find adjustments of the system voice, as well as the rate.
Rachel.
On 9/18/2014 6:03 PM, The Believer wrote:

The other day I had some questions, none of which got answered, so
will tackle them singly.

  Voiceover is set to my liking except when system related
information is spoken. It sounds like its using default VO
settings. Is there another place where I can change this?

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Re: Voiceover settings

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi,

If you go to system preferences, users and groups, login options pain, 
click the lock to make changes, enter in your admin password. Then tab 
through that window and you'll see various options you can customize 
when logging in. A chedkbox you'll want to see checked is Voiceover at 
the logon window.

Hopefully this fixes your problem.
Rachel.
On 9/19/2014 8:56 PM, The Believer wrote:

Alex and Rachel,
   To Alex. You probably have your speech rate set higher than normal 
human speech so you might not know when system related events is 
announced. I have to slow it down so when I hear the system speech, 
sometimes its hard to unbderstand.


   So per Rachel's suggestion, I went into system prefs, dictation and 
speech, and changed system voice to Samantha (I am using Alex as the 
normal voice). So far she is not speaking to me. She certainly is not 
at login.


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On 9/18/2014 7:35 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
Can you give us an example of when this happens? I've never heard of 
this, except at the login screen or during a system update.
On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:25 PM, Rachel Feinberg  
wrote:



Hi,

This sounds like you're hearing the system voice that's speaking 
other  information.
You can change the rate of this by going into system 
preferences>dictation and speech>text to speech tab, and in there 
you'll find adjustments of the system voice, as well as the rate.

Rachel.
On 9/18/2014 6:03 PM, The Believer wrote:
The other day I had some questions, none of which got answered, so 
will tackle them singly.


   Voiceover is set to my liking except when system related 
information is spoken. It sounds like its using default VO 
settings. Is there another place where I can change this?


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Re: Voiceover settings

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi,

This sounds like you're hearing the system voice that's speaking other  
information.
You can change the rate of this by going into system 
preferences>dictation and speech>text to speech tab, and in there you'll 
find adjustments of the system voice, as well as the rate.

Rachel.
On 9/18/2014 6:03 PM, The Believer wrote:
The other day I had some questions, none of which got answered, so 
will tackle them singly.


   Voiceover is set to my liking except when system related 
information is spoken. It sounds like its using default VO settings. 
Is there another place where I can change this?


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Re: Bookshare Daisy Reader

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello,

Have you tried the Bookshare web reader? It will open up the book in an HTML 
browser window, and there's buttons for previous and next, a table of contents, 
and basic navigation to get through the book.
As far as contrast, I can't speak to that offering, but perhaps the web reader 
may give you some direction and help while reading on the Mac.
HTH,
Rachel. 
On Sep 15, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Kathy Brack  wrote:

> Hi, I have just joined this group and I'm planning on switching to a Mac. You 
> are discussing book share and that was one of my questions. Although I 
> download books to my phone I also download books from Book share to my 
> stream. I wrote humanware if the companion was compatible to the Mac. To date 
> I have not heard back. Hearing what you are saying I guess they are not. 
> 
> Kathy and Seeing Eye dog Wilda
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bookshare Daisy Reader
> 
> It is frustrating because they have programs for people with learning 
> disabilities.
> 
> On 9/15/14, Daniel  wrote:
>> I myself asked bookshare the same question. They have no readers for 
>> the Mac. They do have a browser based plugin, but hat, I doubt, will 
>> help your student.
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Re: advanced voice over?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Pam,

activities are a pretty neat feature. Let's say, in Safari, if you always 
wanted quick nav to turn on when you went to the browser, you could set it up 
so it would do so when you opened Safari, as an example. It's a way of 
automating tasks so Voiceover can do some of the work, leaving you to be more 
efficient.
I don't know if it still is, but I found that activities (at least using the 
quick nav example) tended  to slow Voiceover's performance, but the principle 
is fantastic.
HTH,
Rachel. 
On Aug 20, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Pamela Francis  wrote:

> Hello,
> This topic brings me to a question I have never had the courage to ask 
> because I don't want to be considered stupid. What is the purpose in 
> activities and how do you use them? I've never messed with it in the three 
> years I've had my computer and don't understand what they're there for.  If I 
> remember correctly they are not addressed in the initial voiceover tutorial 
> one can use when learning how to get around the Mac.  
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Kliphton Senior  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the few tips.  I actually hate the track pad.  But will do what 
> you suggested!
> 
> Kliphton
> (iMessage&Email) m.kliph...@gmail.com
> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72
> (Personal blog, read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Kayaker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> So, you think you're ready to move up to the VO big leagues eh? 
>> 
>> I tend to go with self help. I often check out the VO-H command menus 
>> reading the command descriptions to see what I can do. I also look in the VO 
>> Utility application where you can assign actions to keys and see and control 
>> verbosity. I was using VO before the trackpad commander, so I tend to use 
>> the keyboard commands exclusively. If you are a trackpad user, look into the 
>> commander functions, or the Numpad commander functions, and use both 
>> keyboard and trackpad to your advantage. There's a lot of customizations you 
>> can make within the VO Utility.
>> 
>> I think my favorite command beyond the basics is simply the VO Shift C, copy 
>> last phrase spoken to the clipboard. And the second most useful command I 
>> tend to use is the move mouse cursor to voiceover cursor with VO Command F5. 
>> I tend to use that for working around voiceover issues with the contextual 
>> menus or a stubborn button that won't activate. So, at that point I will use 
>> the mouse button like any sighted user would.
>> 
>> Another fun game to play is to enable keyboard help, with VO K, and then 
>> just hit keys with the VO controls down to hear what they do. Be sure to use 
>> all the modifier combinations.
>> 
>> And the other important thing is to ask the list if there is an easier way 
>> to do something that annoys you.  Odds are, there probably is, and you'll 
>> get the answer here.
>> 
>> Enjoy.
>> --K
>> Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
>> questions.
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Kliphton Senior  wrote:
>> 
>>> So, now that everyone knows the basics, what are some advanced things voice 
>>> over users can learn?  Where would we find documentation on this?  They 
>>> have a lot of tutorials out there, but most of it is for the beginner, what 
>>> about the advanced user?
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Re: Copy and Paste

[Rachel Feinberg]

You can find the web address by pressing command+L in Chrome.

On 7/7/2014 1:46 PM, Ibraheem Fakir wrote:

Interesting note,

I've been using Google Chrome and there's where the problem seems to exist. I 
just tried copying and pasting with Safari and it works perfectly well. Excuse 
me if its been mentioned before that copying and pasting within Chrome isn't 
possible with the usual VO commands. Thanks for your help. Now I've got to 
figure out how to find the URL of a web page loaded in Chrome.

Much appreciation,

I


On Jul 7, 2014, at 3:14 PM, isaac  wrote:


First add the paragraph setting to you're rotor then try doing the following 
steps that I sent you in the previous email.

isaac
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Skype gold_wildcat

On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:


Dear Isaac,

Thank you for writing back.

First, though not a huge issue at this problem, when turning quicknav on, and spinning 
through my roter, I don't have a paragraph setting. I set it to words. Second, I followed 
your steps and when I'm ready to copy by pressing command C. I hear the short high pitch 
sound indicating that whatever I tried to do failed. I tried your steps on a different 
page, this time a random Wikipedia article and didn't receive the high pitch sign of 
error. Instead, VO pronounced the phrase "copy" and when I went to paste the 
chunk of Wikipedia article into a document, my clipboard was empty. I tried a Wikipedia 
article in case there was some form of restriction on the original page I'm trying to 
copy from. Don't see why there would be as its a write up on exercise descriptions. 
Anyway, any other ideas? I have my mouse set to follow my keyboard cursor.

All best,

I


On Jul 7, 2014, at 2:39 PM, isaac  wrote:


No you are doing every thing right.
To copy paragraphs try turning on quick nav and switch it to [aragraphs.
Next press vo enter to start selecting text.
Next try pressing vo down arrow to select  the text.
Next press command c to copy it and then paste it in to you're document.
If this doesn't work or if have you have any questions reply to this.
isaac
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Skype gold_wildcat

On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:


Dear List,

Recently, I've tried copying text off a web page and have had little success. 
I've never had this problem before, on an older mac running Mavericks. Now, I'm 
using a newer machine but still running Mavericks and can't seem to accomplish 
task. Below is the steps I've tried.

1. Interact with text on web page with VO, Shift, Down arrow.
2. VO + enter to begin selecting text.
3. VO + Right Arrow till end of desired text.
4. VO + Enter to stop selecting text.
5. Command C to copy.
6. Command V into a word processor to paste.

Am I doing something wrong here? Also, I'm using group navigation mode with VO. 
Curious to know how to copy multiple paragraphs on a web page as well. Meaning 
parts of an essay which are separated in group navigation mode so it requires 
you stop interacting with the first paragraph and then VO right arrow to the 
next paragraph and then interact with the second paragraph.

Thanks for any tips.

Best,

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Re: BARD NLS app in Mac App Store?

[Rachel Feinberg]

You can also do command+F in the Mac app store and it will bring you to the 
search field. 

On May 31, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> The only place you will find the BARd app is in the IOS store.  Not the Mac 
> app store.
> 
> The search is not selective, so far as I know.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On May 31, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
>> Guys,
>> Two questions:
>> 1.  Is there a BARD NLS app in the Mac App Store, as distinct from the IOS 
>> Store?
>> 2.  How does one do a global search in the Mac App Store?  I couldn't find 
>> an option for searching for an app by title or author.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Kevin 
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Re: considering updating to Maverix, but have a question

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Shannon,

If you go into the Utilities folder in your applications folder, and go into 
Disk Utility app, you can format your disk from there. You'll probably want to 
do a clean installation of Mavericks, and format your disk from the options 
before you install Mavericks, but the process is the same.
Once you get to Disk Utility, you'll select your HD from the disks table, and 
choose the "erase" tab. You can then erase the disk, and its partitions, which 
will get rid of the XP one and leave the drive free for Mavericks.
Rachel 
On Apr 28, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Shannon Dyer  wrote:

> Hello, all.
> 
> I have a macbook that I purchased in 2010, just before lion was released. I'm 
> thinking of updating to Mavericks from Mountain Lion, but have a question 
> before doing so.
> 
> When I first got the machine, I created a small windows partition using 
> bootcamp. Windows XP is the operating system that runs there. I would like to 
> update, but I want to make sure that the update will take away the partition. 
> Since windows XP is no longer supported, I want the machine to run the mac os 
> only. Is this possible? If so, could someone tell me how to make it happen?
> 
> I would appreciate any help you can offer.
> 
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Re: can't play youtube videos in safari

[Rachel Feinberg]

Chrome includes flash, so if possible, you can play yOutube videos in that 
browser.
Sorry I can't be more help with installing Flash player.

On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:

> That may be my problem with Safari. I keep on getting Adobe flash player 
> install, but the install wizard is not accessable. Anyone got a idea how to 
> install myself without me running to my wife?
> 
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> 
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> try to install flash player
>> Il giorno 19/gen/2014, alle ore 05:35 PM, Phil Halton  
>> ha scritto:
>> 
>>> I use MacTubes a lot for viewing videos on YouTube and between it and 
>>> safari, if one is being problematic, the other one seems to work. MacTubes 
>>> is great and might be worth your trouble investigating.
>>> ∂
>>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Andrew Head  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I can search for youtube videos in safari, but I can’t play them. I press 
 vo space on the links, but nothing happens.
 Any help is appreciated 
 Hope everyone has a good day,
 Andrew 
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Re: Discmaker X for creating OS X bootable drives.

[Rachel Feinberg]

HI Annie,

If you have an 8 GB disk available for creating a bootable Mavericks installer, 
you can with the terminal. Make sure the drive is named untitled and that you 
have the latest Mavericks installer from the Mac app store.
Once your flash drive is empty, you can copy and paste this command into the 
terminal
sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\X\ 
Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled 
--applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction
Press return after putting that in, enter your admin password, and your disk 
should be made to be bootable to install Mavericks. Also make sure that the 
installer has not been moved from its default location in your applications 
folder.
Rachel 
On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi Mike.
> 
> This is a bug apple ought to fix quicker than quick, because it is the same 
> problem with many apps on mavericks.
> 
> Is there another way that we can make a bootable USB pen for installing 
> mavericks. My mac needs to be reinstalled.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 06 Jan 2014 kl. 23:37 skrev Mike Arrigo :
> 
>> The app does work in Mavericks, this is a voiceover bug, it currently 
>> doesn’t work with apps created with apple script. Apple is already aware of 
>> it.
>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Barry Abbott  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Daniel. I'm trying it as we speak and I get the message DiscMaker x 
>>> has no windows.
>>> It says that it works with Mavericks and I have already installed Mavericks 
>>> but want to completely erase my iMac's Drive and do a clean install as my 
>>> folder structure is a mess.
>>> I have just tried redownloading DiscMakerX 3.03 onto my MacBook Air and 
>>> will try creating a bootdisk again.
>>> I can access the menu bar but there is nothing of consequence other than 
>>> "Use Start Screen checked".
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Barry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 Has anyone used the new version of Discmaker X, formerly Lion Disc Maker 
 to make a bootable install drive of 10.9? I’m having extreme difficulties, 
 which is a shame because the previous versions of this app worked 
 wonderfully with VoiceOver.
 Any help would be appreciated. The app reads nothing with VO, whatsoever.
 
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Re: drag and drop application

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Chris,

I'm not running Mavericks, but you should still be able to copy the .app file 
in the mounted volume to the applications folder and it will be installed. Just 
press command+C on it and paste it in the folder with command+V.
Hope this helps,
rachel 
On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:

> Hello,
> I’m trying to install an app but can’t get the drag and  drop function to 
> work.
> After opining the dog file, I can locate the mounted volume on the desktop.  
> There are two items inside: the app and the applications alias.  I can mark 
> the app with vo + comma.  I then go right to the applications alias and do a 
> vo + period to drop the item.  I am notified that the function can not be 
> performed.
> 
> Am I alone, or is there another method to perform the drag and drop?  BTW, 
> I’m running Mavericks.
> 
> TIA
> Chris
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Re: using my brailleSense as a braille display on my macbook air

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Andrew,

To get rid of highlighting, (dashes underneath the braille display), you'll go 
to the voiceover utility (VO+f8). Then you'll interact with the table and head 
down to the "Braille" category.
You'll stop interacting with the table and leave the choice on the "layout" 
tab. Go to where it says "use dots 7 and 8 to indicate cursor" uncheck that 
box, and the dashes disappear.
Rachel 
On Nov 11, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Andrew Head  wrote:

> Hi all,
> For some reason, when I connect my braillesense U2 to the mac as a braille 
> display, it has dashes under the text. Just wondering how to turn those off? 
> I’m guessing it’s somewhere in the braille settings of voice over, but not 
> sure where exactly. Any help is appreciated. 
> Andrew 
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Re: Newest Skype with OS X Mavericks

[Rachel Feinberg]

Also, just thought of this, but I've not found a way to do this with Skype on 
Mac. If you told it to keep no chat history, that might improve responsiveness. 
Changed that under Windows just the other day,and it vastly improved skype's 
speed.
Rachel 
On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Blake Sinnett  wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> They've fixed stuff on iOS, Android and Windows, so I'm sure Mac will get an 
> update soon. I'm guessing Skype 7 in December which will hopefully include 
> Opus.
>  
> Blake
>  
> 
> From: Daniel Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:15 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Newest Skype with OS X Mavericks
> 
> I have 8gb of ram, but I agree with ray. Who knows if Skype will ever 
> acknowledge the problems and fix them?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:52 AM, Kliphton ---  
> wrote:
> 
>> Was gonna say the same thing.  Although I only have 16 gigs of ram.  Still 
>> plenty for what I do.
>> 
>> 
>> Kliphton
>> (iMessage&Email) kliphton@outlook.com
>> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:55 AM, "Kawal Gucukoglu"  wrote:
>> 
>> No problems with Skype for me. But then my memory is 32 Ram.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> Sent from my I phone
>> 
>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 08:38 am, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I am seeing this behavior as well. I also saw this under Mountain Lion. I 
>>> thought it was just me who was having this problem. I wonder if the people 
>>> at Skype are aware of this issue?
>>> 
>>> Jeffrey
>>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:12 AM, BBS  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey guys. I’m having a bit of a problem here. Using the latest version of 
 Skype, 6.9 under Mavericks, Voiceover is slow to the point where it 
 sometimes unresponsive. I get the Skype busy messages often and I notice 
 that my Mac is getting hot to the touch. Is anybody else having this 
 problem? It’s only when using Skype. I wonder if I should downgrade back 
 to ML or try to clean install Mavericks after I get some sighted 
 assistance to help me create a bootable drive. This is really getting 
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Re: Newest Skype with OS X Mavericks

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Shawn,

I'm not running Mavericks, but running the latest version of skype for me (as 
of late), has also resulted in Voiceover sometimes being unresponsive. When I 
press vo+J to interact with the chat area of a group call, for instance, vo 
will crash, restart itself, and then I have to navigate to the chat field a 
different way. Also, there have been times where it has been unresponsive in 
single chat areas (not related to a call), said busy, and not repeated back 
what I've typed. It's as if it has to catch up. I'm sorry I couldn't provide 
any assistance to solve the problem, just someone else who's noticed this as 
well. So it may be a skype 6.9 issue, unrelated to the operating system version 
you're running.
HTH,
rachel 
On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:12 PM, BBS  wrote:

> Hey guys. I’m having a bit of a problem here. Using the latest version of 
> Skype, 6.9 under Mavericks, Voiceover is slow to the point where it sometimes 
> unresponsive. I get the Skype busy messages often and I notice that my Mac is 
> getting hot to the touch. Is anybody else having this problem? It’s only when 
> using Skype. I wonder if I should downgrade back to ML or try to clean 
> install Mavericks after I get some sighted assistance to help me create a 
> bootable drive. This is really getting stupid.
> 
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Re: Discmaker X for creating OS X bootable drives.

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Hi Daniel,

It told you it had no windows, correct? I've also encountered this, the disk 
seemed to be able to be made in spite of this, though. If you can, perhaps give 
it a try and see if, in spite of Voiceover reporting the program had no 
windows, if it still performed as intended.

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> Hi Rachel, I did try Beta three as well as the official 3.0 release, which is 
> now named disc may correct. It's the same program, just a different name. I'm 
> having trouble with voiceover not seeing any contents of the window at all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
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>> If you're meaning Lion Diskmaker, beta 3 is out, which let me go through the 
>> process, until it wished to erase my disk. Then it said the operation 
>> couldn't be completed. I tried several times. So, I tried beta 2 as that was 
>> what the read me that came with the program indicated with a link, and that 
>> seems to have completed the install disk.
>> As a disclaimer: I have not clean installed yet. This list has been a very 
>> good resource for the pitfalls and victories Mavericks has been in the first 
>> few days since release. So I think, as others have verbalized, I may wait 
>> until the first major update to see if some of these bugs have been fixed.
>> however, I will paste the web address for lion diskmaker beta 3, and you're 
>> welcome to try it.
>> http://liondiskmaker.com/?p=189
>> Rachel 
>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone used the new version of Discmaker X, formerly Lion Disc Maker to 
>>> make a bootable install drive of 10.9? I’m having extreme difficulties, 
>>> which is a shame because the previous versions of this app worked 
>>> wonderfully with VoiceOver.
>>> Any help would be appreciated. The app reads nothing with VO, whatsoever.
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Re: Discmaker X for creating OS X bootable drives.

[Rachel Feinberg]

If you're meaning Lion Diskmaker, beta 3 is out, which let me go through the 
process, until it wished to erase my disk. Then it said the operation couldn't 
be completed. I tried several times. So, I tried beta 2 as that was what the 
read me that came with the program indicated with a link, and that seems to 
have completed the install disk.
As a disclaimer: I have not clean installed yet. This list has been a very good 
resource for the pitfalls and victories Mavericks has been in the first few 
days since release. So I think, as others have verbalized, I may wait until the 
first major update to see if some of these bugs have been fixed.
however, I will paste the web address for lion diskmaker beta 3, and you're 
welcome to try it.
http://liondiskmaker.com/?p=189
Rachel 
On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Has anyone used the new version of Discmaker X, formerly Lion Disc Maker to 
> make a bootable install drive of 10.9? I’m having extreme difficulties, which 
> is a shame because the previous versions of this app worked wonderfully with 
> VoiceOver.
> Any help would be appreciated. The app reads nothing with VO, whatsoever.
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Re: vmware fusion

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Don,

Yes. To create a virtual machine with Vmware fusion,or to bootcamp your hard 
drive, you will need a copy of Windows.
rachel 
On Oct 23, 2013, at 6:58 PM, don bishop  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I’I’m thinking of getting fusion or maybe installing bootcamp and I have a 
> auestion which I think applies to both.
> 
> Do you also need to have and install a copy of windows?  
> Thanks for any clarification on this,
> 
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Re: How do you log out of iTunes?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Go to the store menu and choose "sign out" That should hopefully fix what's 
going on.

On Oct 19, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Chenelle Hancock  
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I wanted to know how do you log someone else out of iTunes that used your 
> phone without your permission! Every time I try to update my apps from the 
> app store this person iTunes name comes up thanks I appreciate this is 
> Chenelle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 19, 2013, at 5:16 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
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>>   Today's Topic Summary
>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>> 
>> Importing CD question [7 Updates]
>> Problem from Re-Labeling an App [1 Update]
>> apple, flash, and vo, was etc. [1 Update]
>> Mailing List Conventions: Plain Text Versus Rich text? [4 Updates]
>> Audio Boo for Mac? [2 Updates]
>> yet more regarding youtube [3 Updates]
>> Anyone Upgrade to a 5S on AT&T [2 Updates]
>> adding links to mail signatures [1 Update]
>>  Importing CD question
>> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 19 08:04PM +0100  
>> 
>> Hello everyone.
>>  
>> I have just imported a CD using iTunes. However, the CD importing didn't 
>> complete very well. So I am wondering, if I can port the CD again, would it 
>> replace the other CD which was imported? Thank you very much.
>>  
>> Kawal.
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>> John Panarese  Oct 19 03:20PM -0400  
>> 
>> In theory, it should, but I have not imported a CD a second time. One would 
>> think that if you choose the same info with the import that it will 
>> overwrite the original, but I stand corrected if I am wrong about this.
>>  
>>  
>> Take Care
>>  
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>  
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
>>  
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>  
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 19 08:27PM +0100  
>> 
>> If it does not work, how can I remove the original CD? Very in mind that it 
>> is an album of its own. Thank you very much.
>>  
>> I am away from home just now, and have no access to my iMac.
>>  
>> Kawal. Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>>  
>> John Panarese  Oct 19 03:36PM -0400  
>> 
>> You would probably have to delete it from your iTunes library through iTunes 
>> itself. Do a search for the album and delete the tracks. If you do it 
>> through Finder, that leaves dead links in iTunes. If you have the Apple 
>> script to remove dead links, then that’s fine, but I always recommend that 
>> you remove iTunes material via iTunes.
>>  
>>  
>> Take Care
>>  
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>  
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
>>  
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>  
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 19 08:45PM +0100  
>> 
>> Is there a way to slept the whole album in a menu item, and then delete the 
>> album once the album is selected in the menu item? Thank you very much.
>>  
>> Kawal.
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>>  
>> John Panarese  Oct 19 03:54PM -0400  
>> 
>> You would have to highlight all of the tracks at once to do this. If you do 
>> your search precisely, this should not be difficult to do. I have done this 
>> for fixing incorrect details for tracks on the same album or for tracks 
>> imported in from an audio CD.
>>  
>>  
>> Take Care
>>  
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
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>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
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>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>  
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
>>  
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>  
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 19 08:58PM +0100  
>> 
>> I have done this too John.
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>>  
>>  Problem from Re-Labeling an App
>> Brian Fischler  Oct 19 01:10PM -0400  
>> 
>> Hey all,
>>  
>> I am curious if this has happened to anyone else as I have now experienced 
>> it on an iPhone 4S and 5S both running IOS 7. This problem also occurred in 
>> IOS6. When I use the two finger tap to rename an app, for example an app was 
>> just called football, and I wanted it called CBS Football, which I typed 
>> than hit save and the app name changes to ESPN football and the app is a CBS 
>> app, and not ESPN. I have deleted the app and reinstalled it from the app 
>> store and it still comes up as ESPN football. So strange as the app has 
>> nothing to do with ESPN. I have had this happen elsewhere as I once renamed 
>> a yahoo app to yahoo baseball and now my baseball playlist in downcast 
>> insists on calling itself yahoo baseball and even deleting the pl

Re: cycling through windows?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Anouk,

As far as I know, you are using the correct command for cycling through 
windows. In which application (or is it all of them), does this not work? If 
you try it in Safari, and you have browser windows open in different tabs, then 
you need to press control+tab to cycle through the tabs, since they aren't 
windows. Other than that instance, the command+` command should work.

On Sep 7, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:

> Hello, I thought in the past i could cycle through windows with 
> command+`(accent) when i do this now though i hear a ma csound but nothing 
> works.
> Am i using the wrong command?
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: accessible dictionries for mac or ios?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Anouk,

OS10 comes with a dictionary app built-in. For further translation needs, 
you'll probably need an additional app, but for definitions as well as 
searching other things, the built-in dictionary can be quite useful!
Rachel 
On May 30, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:

> Hello, Has anyone got experience with dictionary apps (translation apps) on 
> the mac or ios that are accessible with voiceover?
> Thanks
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: Mail on the MacBook Air

[Rachel Feinberg]

You can also keep quick nav off, and choose to expand/collapse conversations 
with left and right arrow, respectively.
then you just vo+J to read the message text, vo+J to the message list, and up 
or down to go through the conversation as necessary.
Good luck!
Rachel 
On May 18, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Hi Katey,
> 
> When you're on the threaded conversation in the messages list, press 
> Command-O to open the message. To move to another message in that 
> conversation, press VO-SHIFT-UP ARROW to stop interacting, then move left or 
> right with VO-Left or VO-Right until you get to the other message you want to 
> read, then interact with VO-SHIFT-DOWN ARROW.
> 
> Best,
> Nic
> 
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> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm fairly new to the Mac and am having a hard time reading threaded 
> conversations in email.  I'm not sure how to open the threaded message.  If I 
> get a single message I can do a VO J and get to the message content, I can do 
> this on a threaded message as well, but, don't know how to get from one 
> conversation to the next.  
> 
> I know this is probably a very basic question, but I'd greatly appreciate 
> your help.  
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Katey 
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Re: where can I find twitter and Facebook sharing

[Rachel Feinberg]

HI Matt,

If you go into the mail, contacts, and calendars area of system preferences, 
and go to the new accounts table, you can interact with that. then you'll find 
buttons for twitter and facebook, and you log in with your credentials, then 
you'll have access to those.
If you're talking about how to share something, you can press vo+shift+M on it, 
and you should find a share submenu with those options as long as you've added 
the accounts in system preferences.
Rachel
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> Hi all.
> I had to reformat my whole mac, and trying to get it so that twitter and 
> Facebook notifies you. Is there w ay to do it again?
> Thanks.
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Re: next/previous message in Mail?

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Hi Alex,

I don't know if this would be quicker for you, but when a conversation thread 
is present, you can press vo+J to go between the messages table, the text of 
the message and so on. But you can quickly arrow up and down through the 
conversation thread with vo+J getting you to the table quicker. That's the 
closest I've come to doing next/previous message in ann efficient manner.
Rachel
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> Hi all,
> I'm thinking no, but is there a way to show the next/previous message in 
> Mail? I open messages with enter instead of using the preview pane, so I 
> currently open a message, read it, close it, arrow to the next one, open it, 
> read it, close it... This would mostly be useful in conversations. Any ideas? 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
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How to forward delete on mac and other functions

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello all:

I came across this handy article and thought it might be of use to some.  It 
taught me a thing or 2 I didn't know about the backspace (or delete key) as we 
call it on the Mac.
You can make it forward delete, turn your power key into a physical forward 
delete key (as on Windows), and delete words and lines of text,Here's the 
article with more info and instructions on how to do all these tasks:
http://osxdaily.com/2013/04/26/delete-key-mac-forward-del/
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Re: Skype on Mac: what should I know?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Vo+J is your friend when accessing chat history and when going from table to 
table.
Also, keep in mind that when you're sitting in a chat window on skype, it won't 
make the sound to let you know a new message has come in. So you'll probably 
want to command+tab away from the application while waiting for a new message, 
then skype will make the alert.
Other than that, and if you remember to be out of the application when waiting 
for a message, it's a pretty good experience.
Have fun, and shout if you have questions!
Rachel 
On Apr 26, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Chris H  wrote:

> I actually think Skype is much better accessibility wise on the mac however I 
> do admit to using the client on the other platform but require third party 
> software in order for it to be fully accessible. not so on the mac. One nice 
> feature in the mac client is the ability to use the system voice to announce 
> various events on Skype. It was a while since I set up Skype on my mac but 
> it's all there in Preferences, command-comma.
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> E-mail and Facebook:
> challswor...@sky.com
> Skype:
> chrishallsworth7266
> Twitter:
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> Find my blog at
> challsworth2.wordpress.com
> 
> On 26/04/2013 16:16, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I am about to put Skype on my Mac for the first time. I know the program, 
>> but have used it only on my iOS devices for a couple years, and on Windows 
>> before that. Are there accessibility concerns regarding this application on 
>> the Mac? Is there anything VO-related I need to know? Any settings I should 
>> configure a certain way? Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
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>> mehg...@gmail.com
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Re: Type2Phone free this weekend

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Stacey,

I'm glad to hear that! If you need anymore help, don't hesitate to ask. It 
really is a fantastic app.

On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:15 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> Rachel,
> I got things going this morning.
> Totally cool.
> 
> On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:
> 
>> Activate a text field on your phone, turn quick Nav off on your mac, and be 
>> in the Type2Phone app. You should be good to go and able to type. 
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>>> I now have my phone and mac comunicating. How do I start doing things with 
>>> it now.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> I can't seem to get my mac running sl to pair with my phone.
>>>> What are the steps I need to take.
>>>> Stacey
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Type2Phone lets your Mac act like a bluetooth keyboard for your iOS 
>>>>> device. You just pair the two machines, then it automatically sets 
>>>>> everything up and is ready to go whenever you cmd-tab into the app. There 
>>>>> are even menu items to issue special commands for Voiceover, and the app 
>>>>> is fully accessible. It is normally $4.99, but is currently free. Just 
>>>>> open the Mac App Store and search for Type2phone, no spaces, the number 
>>>>> 2. I have no idea if there's a Windows version. Enjoy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
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Re: Type2Phone free this weekend

[Rachel Feinberg]

Activate a text field on your phone, turn quick Nav off on your mac, and be in 
the Type2Phone app. You should be good to go and able to type. 

On Apr 19, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> I now have my phone and mac comunicating. How do I start doing things with it 
> now.
> 
> On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> I can't seem to get my mac running sl to pair with my phone.
>> What are the steps I need to take.
>> Stacey
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Type2Phone lets your Mac act like a bluetooth keyboard for your iOS device. 
>>> You just pair the two machines, then it automatically sets everything up 
>>> and is ready to go whenever you cmd-tab into the app. There are even menu 
>>> items to issue special commands for Voiceover, and the app is fully 
>>> accessible. It is normally $4.99, but is currently free. Just open the Mac 
>>> App Store and search for Type2phone, no spaces, the number 2. I have no 
>>> idea if there's a Windows version. Enjoy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Group Conversations In Skype

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Hi Scott,

It's been awhile since I've done this, but here goes:
 The easier way is to have everyone call you who wishes to be apart of the 
conference, when they do so, you'll get a "merge calls" button. if this isn't 
possible, however, go to the table of contacts, and so the "add button" won't 
be dimmed, once you find the contact you wish to add, press vo+command+f5, then 
vo+shift+space to left-click on them. This should then make the "add button" 
not dimmed, and you can have them in the call as well.

On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know how to do a group conversation in Skype? I need to be able 
> to call a team member and then add a client to the call. I Googled this and I 
> found the instructions for doing this, but when I follow the instructions the 
> add button in the new conversations window is dimmed.
> 
> Thank you,
> Scott
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Re: using onekey navigation with vo on mac (webpages)

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Hi Anouk,

You can enable single key navigation on web pages, so when quick Nav is on, 
you'll be able to use H to jump to headings, much like you do in iOS.
to do this, go to the voiceover utility with vo+f8. And scroll down the table 
to the commanders category. Choose the "Quick Nav" tab, and check the box that 
says "Enable single-key webpage navigation when using Quick Nav" 
then, you'll be able to navigate the web as you got used to on the phone side 
of things.
Rachel
On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:49 PM, anouk radix  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I borrowed a mac from a friend of mine for a few months.
> I know you can do on ekey jump to headings etc on ios with a bt keyboard. I 
> know i can do this with the webrotor on the mac but would prefer one-key 
> navigation. Is this possible and how can i set this up?
> Thanks,
> Greetings Anouk,
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The correct syntax for getting a download link in dropbox

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hello all,

there was a previous thread today, and in there, the syntax of how to write a 
link to get a file directly downloaded once you have it from dropbox. How you 
write it is you rid it of the www at the beginning and place a dl before the 
dropbox.com  and put a dl? (that's a dl and a question mark), at the end of it.
So a link to a fudge recipe that will open a save as dialogue (or, will save to 
wherever you save downloaded files), I believe the default location in Safari 
is your downloads folder. This is   as follows:
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/tkw9w2lmsj25831/2%20Minute%20Fudge.rtfdl?
Hope that helps,
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Re: Dropbox on the Mac

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Phil,

Apologies, that wasn't as clear as it possibly should have been … it was early. 
:)
What I meant was to add the dl in front of dropbox.com as you did, and also 
remove the www. so your link should be as follows:
httP://dl.dropbox.com
And then whatever the ending part of the name is which you can leave in tact.
I hope that helps some.
Rachel 
On Apr 5, 2013, at 6:47 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> Hi Rachael,
> I tried this and it worked great, but when I tried to put "dl.dropbox.com" as 
> you said, it got a little confused.
> The link already had the dropbox.com site name in it, so I just added the 
> "dl." part in front of "dropbox.com".
> that didn't work.
> Is that what you meant by saying "putting Dl.Dropbox.com"
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Rachel Feinberg
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Dropbox on the Mac
> 
> Hi Allison,
> 
> If you wish to get a link to a file for sharing, do the following:
> Select the file by navigating to it, then press vo+shift+M to bring up the 
> context menu. Go down to dropbox submenu, then choose "get link." And your 
> browser of choice will open, then you just copy the link from the address 
> bar. Putting dl.dropbox.com and leaving the rest in tact if you want someone 
> to be able to download directly. Or you can just post the link, and they'll 
> see an option for downloading on the web page.
> HTH,
> rachel 
> On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:21 AM, Allison Manzino Vázquez  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a question about Dropbox. I know that since the release of Mountain 
>> Lion, it does now work with VoiceOver again. A perplexing thing happened 
>> when I installed it this morning. I can see the Dropbox folder just fine, 
>> but when I add files to it, they are not showing up on the Dropbox website. 
>> Also, how do you get the link to the file you have added to your Dropbox 
>> folder so you can share it with others? Any help would be grately 
>> appreciated. Thank you in advance.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Allison
>> 
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>> our breath away
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Re: Dropbox on the Mac

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Hi Allison,

If you wish to get a link to a file for sharing, do the following:
Select the file by navigating to it, then press vo+shift+M to bring up the 
context menu. Go down to dropbox submenu, then choose "get link." And your 
browser of choice will open, then you just copy the link from the address bar. 
Putting dl.dropbox.com and leaving the rest in tact if you want someone to be 
able to download directly. Or you can just post the link, and they'll see an 
option for downloading on the web page.
HTH,
rachel 
On Apr 5, 2013, at 2:21 AM, Allison Manzino Vázquez  
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have a question about Dropbox. I know that since the release of Mountain 
> Lion, it does now work with VoiceOver again. A perplexing thing happened when 
> I installed it this morning. I can see the Dropbox folder just fine, but when 
> I add files to it, they are not showing up on the Dropbox website. Also, how 
> do you get the link to the file you have added to your Dropbox folder so you 
> can share it with others? Any help would be grately appreciated. Thank you in 
> advance.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Allison
> 
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> breath away
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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: twitter client for the mac

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Tammy,

Go to preferences in Night Owl with command+comma. Go to the toolbar, interact 
with it, and navigate to the notifications button.
Stop interacting once you've pressed the notifications button. Make sure you're 
on the notification tab, as opposed to the general tab, and you'll have options 
of checkboxes you can check. 2 of those are for DM's and mentions.
rachel 
On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "Tammy"  wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> One question I forgot to ask, where do I find the checkboxes to alert me to 
> dms and mentions?  I looked in notification center but couldn’t find  
> them...Story of my life recently with this computer.
>  
> Tammy
>  
> From: Rachel Feinberg
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:57 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: twitter client for the mac
>  
> Night owl should alert you if you have the boxes checked for new tweets, 
> DM's, and mentions. It's also nice as the notification center will alert you 
> to at least DM's and mentions.
> Is your quick Nav off? Then you can arrow up/down through your current buffer 
> to read/reply. Presss enter to reply, and shift+enter to reply to all. 
> Command+left and right arrows will move you between buffers.
> Hope that's enough to get you up and running. If you need more help, give a 
> holler.
> Rachel 
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:01 AM, "Tammy"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I think my problems with it have more to do with lack of ability than 
>> anything else.  Does it have to be open to let you know when tweets come in 
>> or can I be running another program with it backgrounded and still let me 
>> know I have tweets?  Are there keystrokes that will help me be able to use 
>> it easier?  I’ve been playing around with it but it seems there’s a bit to 
>> rember so it’s been frustrating. 
>>  
>> Again, Thanks,
>>  
>> Tammy
>>  
>> From: Maria & Joe Chapman
>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:45 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: twitter client for the mac
>>  
>> HI.  hmmm not having any problems with night owl.
>>  
>>  
>> regards
>> Maria and crew from australia
>> email:
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> check out
>> www.95-the-mix.com
>> where we play lots of great music
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> On 26/03/2013, at 12:43 AM, "Tammy"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>>  
>>> Is night owl the only accessible twitter client for the mac?  I either have 
>>> something set up wrong or it just doesn’t work well.  I have to have it 
>>> open and in the foreground to hear tweets come in and sometimes I can’t 
>>> reply or click on links.I’m hoping that somebody can either tel me what 
>>> I’m doing wrong or point me in the right direction to get a more accessible 
>>> app. 
>>>  
>>> thanks for any help,
>>>  
>>> Tammy
>>>  
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Re: [Bulk] Re: twitter client for the mac

[Rachel Feinberg]

Night owl should alert you if you have the boxes checked for new tweets, DM's, 
and mentions. It's also nice as the notification center will alert you to at 
least DM's and mentions.
Is your quick Nav off? Then you can arrow up/down through your current buffer 
to read/reply. Presss enter to reply, and shift+enter to reply to all. 
Command+left and right arrows will move you between buffers.
Hope that's enough to get you up and running. If you need more help, give a 
holler.
Rachel 
On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:01 AM, "Tammy"  wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I think my problems with it have more to do with lack of ability than 
> anything else.  Does it have to be open to let you know when tweets come in 
> or can I be running another program with it backgrounded and still let me 
> know I have tweets?  Are there keystrokes that will help me be able to use it 
> easier?  I’ve been playing around with it but it seems there’s a bit to 
> rember so it’s been frustrating. 
>  
> Again, Thanks,
>  
> Tammy
>  
> From: Maria & Joe Chapman
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:45 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: twitter client for the mac
>  
> HI.  hmmm not having any problems with night owl.
>  
>  
> regards
> Maria and crew from australia
> email:
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> check out
> www.95-the-mix.com
> where we play lots of great music
>  
> 
> 
>  
> On 26/03/2013, at 12:43 AM, "Tammy"  wrote:
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>> Hi list,
>>  
>> Is night owl the only accessible twitter client for the mac?  I either have 
>> something set up wrong or it just doesn’t work well.  I have to have it open 
>> and in the foreground to hear tweets come in and sometimes I can’t reply or 
>> click on links.I’m hoping that somebody can either tel me what I’m doing 
>> wrong or point me in the right direction to get a more accessible app. 
>>  
>> thanks for any help,
>>  
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Re: HotSpots

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Hi Stacey,

You can use Hot spots to jump to specific places in websites, once your 
cursor's there. Just set the hot spot, and from anywhere, you can press vo and 
the number of the spot you set, and it'll take you back to that place in the 
website, provided your browser is still loaded with the content.
You can also use them to jump you to specific applications. However, keyboard 
commanders are also great for this task.
HTH,
Rachel 
On Mar 24, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

> Rachel,
> What else can you save as a hotspot?
> Stacey Robinson
> 
> On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi Aneta,
>> 
>> To check battery status, go to the extras menu by pressing vo+M twice 
>> quickly. If you vo+right and left arrow, you'll be able to see things like 
>> bluetooth, WiFi and other things including clock and battery status.
>> You can create a hot spot for it, that is a keystroke to speak the status 
>> without going to the menus, I've just not found that to work as reliably. If 
>> you wish to create a hot spot, do the following:
>> Go to the extras menu as stated earlier, and go to where the battery status 
>> is located. Then press vo+shift+1 if you want it as your first hot spot. 
>> Then, anywhere you are, you just press vo+1 and it will announce the status.
>> and what I mean by the VO keys, is the control and option keys pressed 
>> together.
>> Rachel 
>> On Mar 24, 2013, at 3:40 AM, "anita"  wrote:
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>>> Hi List,
>>> How do I check battery status? Are there any utilties I could download, 
>>> to enrich VO to have the best performance possibly?
>>> Anita
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Re: Battery Status.

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Hi Aneta,

To check battery status, go to the extras menu by pressing vo+M twice quickly. 
If you vo+right and left arrow, you'll be able to see things like bluetooth, 
WiFi and other things including clock and battery status.
You can create a hot spot for it, that is a keystroke to speak the status 
without going to the menus, I've just not found that to work as reliably. If 
you wish to create a hot spot, do the following:
Go to the extras menu as stated earlier, and go to where the battery status is 
located. Then press vo+shift+1 if you want it as your first hot spot. Then, 
anywhere you are, you just press vo+1 and it will announce the status.
and what I mean by the VO keys, is the control and option keys pressed together.
Rachel 
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Re: adjusting system volume without going to status menu

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Or fn+f11 and fn+f12 respectively. If your system is set that way.

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> Hi.
> hit f12 to turn up volume and f11 to turn it down.
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> 
> On 2013-03-19, at 5:58 PM, "Katie Zodrow"  wrote:
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>> Hi, everyone. When I've wanted to listen to a webstream or podcast, 
>> sometimes I'd like to adjust the system volume level. Normally, I've gone in 
>> the status menu with vo M twice, and then vo right arrow 3 or 4 times to 
>> system sound volume. Then I've used the down and up arrows to turn the 
>> volume up or down. How can you adjust the system volume though on the fly 
>> without going in the status menu? I can't figure this out.
>> Thanks.
>> Katie
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Re: viewing attached files when composing a mail message

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If you read down to the bottom of the message, voiceover should say "embedded" 
and then the file name. That's how you know 1 or more files have been attached, 
as it'll do that for each one.

On Mar 13, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Noel Romey  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> Do you have a process for determining whether or not a file has been attached 
> in mail? I composed a message, went to the toolbar and attached files.  
> However, I didn't see that there was a way to tell which files had actually 
> been attached if any. Is there a way to navigate to or interact with an 
> element to see which files have been attached?
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Re: add/remove a user to a list in Nightowl

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Hi Matt,

Press command+P and you'll be taken to the configure tabs. Press the "add" 
button.
then you'll put in a name, as if you're creating a new list, because 
essentially you are, but it's the only way to get to your pre-existing lists. 
After you've filled in the name, go to the last radio button that says twitter 
list tab type and select it then press the "create" button.
You'll then be taken to a table with your lists, and you can choose one by 
interacting with that, then once you've chosen it, stop interacting, and 
navigate to the "select" button. You'll then find a "list members" button, and 
you should press that. Once done, press the "add" button, and you'll find a 
text field where you can add users to the list you've chosen. Separate each 
user ID by pressing enter. Once done, navigate to the add button, which is 
default, then the close button, then the ok button. Conversely, if you want to 
remove a member from your list, after you've pressed the "list members" button, 
and you see a table with all members contained in the list selected. Interact 
with that table, navigate to the member you wish to remove, stop interacting, 
and choose the "remove" button, and they'll go away.
Hope all this made sense.
Rachel 
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> Hi all.
> Just wondering something. How in the world can I add or remove a user from a 
> list on nightowl? Thanks.
> 
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Re: yorufukurou: a question

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If you wish to search for other users, press command+U and enter in their user 
ID. Then you'll be pulling up their timeline and can see their tweets. You can 
toggle to the drawer if you wish to see more information about them, follow, 
DM, and all that good stuff.

On Mar 13, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Michael Marshall  wrote:

> hey,
> is there a yorufukurou podcast? i'm getting a mac in the next two weeks and 
> this program sounds okay for twitter
> On 14/03/2013 2:58 AM, jeffry miller wrote:
>> i HAVE A yorufukurou QUESTION.  how DO YOU SEARCH FOR and add USERS?
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Re: Question about system notification dialogue.

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hI Jeffry,

Try pressing vo+F2 twice quickly. It will get you to the window chooser 
dialogue. Once there, you should be able to find the mysterious thing that's 
popping up and can take care of it.


On Mar 6, 2013, at 6:09 AM, Jeffry Miller  wrote:

> Hello group, when I restart my mac, I get a system notifications dialogue, Ny 
> question is how do you get to what the dialogue is saying. What is the 
> keystroke?
> 
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Re: reading mail, a minor problem

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Hi Jed,

Make sure you're interacting with the messages table. Vo+shift+Down arrow will 
do this. Then you should be able to vo+up/down arrow whichever row you choose, 
and can press vo+J to get to the text of the message.
Rachel 
On Mar 5, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:

> Hey guys
> I'm sure some of you have been through this before.  I can see when new mail 
> arrives.  However, what i remember before, when you did vo left arrow it 
> would show you who it was from, then when you do vo right arrow it would tell 
> you the subject.
> It's not doing that.  It's going to the next message when you do vo right 
> arrow.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
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Accessing the Emoji Keyboard on the Mac

[Rachel Feinberg]

Greetings:

Someone was asking recently how to access the Emoji keyboard, and other special 
characters. It is done by pressing command+option+T in messages, which will 
then reveal the special characters. You can choose from the categories table, 
"Emoji" and proceed to the other tables to get more specific. You can also 
search for what you wish to send in the toolbar. once you've found what you 
wish to send, press vo+space on it, and enter will send it.
Source:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/tips/comments/using-emoji-in-messages-on-os-x/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
I've not found that the Mac will read them, Voiceover just says "group" but it 
will read them on an iDevice.
HTH,
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Re: commanders?

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Go to the voiceover utility (vo+f8), and scroll down the table to the 
commanders category. Then scroll to the keyboard tab, and choose the enable 
commanders checkbox. You'll then have the popup button asking which key you'd 
like to use, keeping it at the right option key is probably best. Then go to 
the add button, and you can write in   a letter combined with the right option 
key to perform a task, such as opening an app which you do in the command menu.
Rachel 
On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> How does one creat a commander?
> On 2013-03-03, at 7:13 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
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>> I am using 1 with the option key to go to top, and 2 to go to the end.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:39 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: moving to the top of message list in mail
>> 
>> Just curious, what command are you guys assigning to 1?  I've tried "Go to
>> Begining"  and Go to Top of Window"  and neither works properly.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Mar 3, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>>> IDE never thought of using keyboard commander like that. Thanks for
>> opening my mind a bit more. 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Danny. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 04/03/2013, at 11:40 AM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
>>> 
 Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the 
 top, and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other
>> way.
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail
 
 Hey guys,
 
 Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list 
 in mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held 
 down and and it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me 
 to do this.. Any ideas or experiences?
 
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Re: Word Count in Pages

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Hi Les,

To get to word count in pages, do the following:
Open the inspector with command+option+I. You'll then vo+left arrow and see a 
series of radio buttons. Choose the one labeled "document."
Then, you'll vo+right arrow to the info tab and select it. If you vo+Right 
arrow through, you'll see something that says "words…" and the number of words 
your whole document contains. If you want to know how many words a section of 
your document has, just select it as normal, and do the steps outlined above.
Rachel 
On Feb 28, 2013, at 2:03 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

> A student of mine wishes to obtain Word Count for a document.  I say in 
> Preferences that this information is displayed at the bottom of the window.  
> How does one access this information?  Thanks.
> 
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Re: Facetime on mac

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When you get a facetime call on your mac, the window should automatically pop 
up and gain focus. Then you can press vo+right arrow to the answer or accept 
button.

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> Is there a way to answer facetime calls on a mac with key commands or 
> otherwise not having to use the mouse?
> 
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Re: word count

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YOu can also get the free word processing app, bean, and do a word count in 
there by pressing option+command+G.
Rachel 
On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:58 AM, "Red.Falcon"  
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> Hi here is a option from Travis!
> There might be items of interest on his site for others to look at!
> His site!
> 
> http://www.softcon.com/mac
> In his own words!
> Here is a version of text edit that has the character, word, line and 
> paragraph counting built-in. It can be accessed by using the command-option-P 
> key combination, or on the properties option under the file menu. Hope this 
> helps some.
> 
> Text Edit.zip
> 
> HTH Colin
> 
> On 23 Feb 2013, at 04:47, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> I did some googling and found the following link that gives a script to use. 
>> The script appears to work but turning on the applescript menu as this 
>> article suggests is a bit cumbersome because it means you have to go into 
>> the extras menu and down to the script. So you might want to put it in the 
>> dock instead.
>> 
>> http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20100504062201437
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Israel Antonio  wrote:
>> 
>>> Lisette,
>>> 
>>> The only way I've found to get a word count for my Text Edit documents is 
>>> by writing and saving in Text Edit, but then when I wish to get a word 
>>> count, I open that same document in Pages, navigate the Inspector until I 
>>> see where it says Word Count and get my count there.  I do not know if this 
>>> helps or if it's too cumbersome, but just an idea.
>>> 
>>> Israel
>>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Ray. Can it be done in Pages instead?
 Lisette
 
 On 23/02/2013, at 12:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
> No.  Not directly.  There are two ways you can do it.  One way is through 
> an apple script which you can find online and insert and assign a  hotkey 
> for and use.  Another way is via an app called "Word Count".  Not in the 
> app store so far as I know.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Is it possible to get a word count in text edit? If so how?
>> I've looked everywhere.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Lisette
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Re: Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

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Hi Kerri,

To download the voices, you'll go to your Voiceover utility with Vo+F8. Go to 
the "speech" category, and the voices tab should be selected. Vo+Right arrow to 
where it says "default" and you'll then see a popup button with your currently 
selected voice. Vo+space on that menu, and go down until you hear "customize.."
At that point, activate that, and you'll be presented with a voices table. 
Interact with this table, and you can see the voice names and languages they're 
from. Check the voice (s) you want, and if you want to play them, stop 
interacting with the table, and go right to the "play" button. then you can 
hear how they sound before downloading. When finished with your voice 
selection, move to the "ok" button, and you'll be prompted to download the 
voices. Once this is finished, you will find them in your voiceover voice 
selection for use.
HTH,
Rachel 
On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Where does one get the nuance voices?
> On 2013-02-20, at 7:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> That's why I use Nuance, specifically Serena or Lee. I found that Alex tends 
>> to be too broken, as though you can often hear the individual voice samples 
>> that are strung together to form speech, instead of just hearing smooth 
>> speech. Nuance sometimes does this as well, but it is better than Alex.
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Christina  wrote:
>> 
>>> H, I am using Alex and maybe that's why I can't really tell much of a 
>>> difference when I changed the intonation. The only reason I was trying to 
>>> figure it out is because Alex seems to skip words or blend two words 
>>> together and it sounds really weird. Then I am finding myself wasting time 
>>> going back to check my typing only to find that I did type correctly. :) 
>>> Does anyone else experience this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christina
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Re: Editing .plist files.

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Annie,

NOt sure if this'll give you entirely what you need, but vo+shift+M on the 
.plist file, and choose open with, right arrow to expand that sub-menu. Then 
choose "other…" and from the applications list, choose TextEdit. You should be 
able to read the information in there.
HTH,
Rachel 
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> Hi.
> 
> I need to edit a .plist file on the mac. Is there any accessible software for 
> that.
> 
> I have tried with textwrangler, but to me it does not look accessible.
> 
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Re: word count for mac?

[Rachel Feinberg]

The one app I didn't think to look at. Thank you so much! this will help 
dramatically in work use.

On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Chris Gilland  wrote:

> Have you tried Pages?  It definitely has word count.  You just go into your 
> inspector, and it shows up right in there.
> 
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> On Feb 4, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Would any one of you folks know where I could get either an application, or 
>> a word processor that supports word count for mac? I'm not seeing the 
>> feature in bean or TextEdit. The word service app, unless I'm overlooking 
>> something, doesn't appear to have that feature either.
>> Thanks for any suggestions,
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word count for mac?

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi All,

Would any one of you folks know where I could get either an application, or a 
word processor that supports word count for mac? I'm not seeing the feature in 
bean or TextEdit. The word service app, unless I'm overlooking something, 
doesn't appear to have that feature either.
Thanks for any suggestions,
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Re: Skype help needed

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Bill,

If possible, with the USB headset plugged in, go to system preferences, to the 
sound category. Change the sfx tab, input, and output tabs, to all use your 
headset as the default device.
that may help,
Rachel 
On Feb 3, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "Bill Holton"  wrote:

> Hi.
> Had Skype working fine yesterday on my Mac Mini with a desk mike and my 
> speakers.
> Today I tried adding a usb headset, and everything went downhill. 
> I have Skype set to use the usb headset in the call speakers pop up box, and 
> the volume is set to 75%.  I have ringers set to use all devices.
> Now, when I make the Skype test call, I hear the begin call blurp in the 
> headset, but then it’s silence everywhere, no ringing, no voice,  until the 
> call ends and I get the call end sound.  If I try to now put the speaker back 
> to the Mini’s external speakers, again silence. 
> Any help with what I may have done wrong greatly appreciated.
>  
>  
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Re: Question about bookmarks

[Rachel Feinberg]

Greetings:

Is there a way to move bookmarks from the bookmarks bar to the main bookmarks 
menu? I wasn't aware that the bar was only for those favorites you wanted to 
access often. And i'd like to move them to the regular menu, below the bar.
Thanks,
Rachel 
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> Hmm, that's odd. I get Open, Open in New Window, Open in New Tab, Rename 
> Bookmark…, Edit Address, Copy and Delete. Not sure why this is so. If you 
> VO-Left Arrow from the bookmark, do you get its address? A work around might 
> be for you to copy that address, press Command-L to move to the address bar, 
> and paste it in, then press enter.
> 
> If you're in that table view, there should be two tables. IN the left most 
> table there should be a folder called Bookmarks Menu. Select this, and then 
> paste your bookmarks into the right most table. I would not put all my 
> bookmarks in the other folder, Bookmarks Bar, if I were you. I keep Bookmarks 
> Bar just for the nine bookmarks I use most often. Then you can easily switch 
> between these using Command and numbers one through nine.
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Re: new Mac user

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Katie,

To select text in Text Edit, make sure quick Nav is off. Then interact with the 
text, and press vo+enter to start your selection. Use normal nnavigation 
commands to get the text you wish. Wehn finished with the selection, press 
vo+enter to end.
In Safari, try shift+down arrow to select lines, at least.
Hope that helps,
Rachel 
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> Hi, my name is Katie Zodrow. I used to be on the MacVisionaries list about 7 
> or 8 years ago when Tiger and Voiceover were just released. I'm currently 
> renting a Mac for a few months with Snow Leopard os 10.6. For the past 2 
> weeks, I've been learning the Mac and how to use Voiceover and so far, I've 
> found it pretty easy to use. I'm used to using a PC with Jaws. Sometimes, its 
> a little challenging to figure out when you need to interact with items, but 
> this is getting easier for me. I've learned how to navigate Safari, use 
> commands for reading text like in Text Edit, and some basics on using the 
> Finder app. I've also explored the Address Book and want to learn Garage 
> Band. I had a question about selecting text. How do you select text on a web 
> page in Safari or in a word processing program like Text Edit? In Safari, I 
> started interacting with the text and did shift right arrow, but nothing 
> happened. I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly.
>  
> Also, I will be learning how to use ProTools again and wanted to know if 
> there's anything else I need to learn before getting a copy of the software.
> Thanks for your help.
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