transposition for the rest of the piece,
showing key signatures?
Thanks;
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jef chippewa wrote:
i also tried to open up the application DistillerLib Helper, something
seems to open, DistillerLib Helper appears briefly in the top bar on
the screen, then i am back in the Finder. is this application supposed
to be able to do something?
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On 3/29/04 4:54 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
Can anyone think of a continuing use for meas-attached titles in Fin04?
It seems to me that the new text expressions have rendered them obsolete.
What exactly do you mean
Can anyone think of a continuing use for meas-attached titles in Fin04?
It seems to me that the new text expressions have rendered them obsolete.
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, (as Christopher implied) I would say they all could be
converted to meas exps.
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Can anyone think of a continuing use for meas-attached titles in Fin04?
It seems to me that the new text expressions have rendered them obsolete
The fanned front edge is a feature. It makes for much easier and quieter page turns.
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Hi all,
I have a
Finale's user interface does not allow de-grouping tuplets. However, a plugin possibly
could set up isolated tuplet notes. The problem is that the U.I. does not accept
fractional values for the in the time of field. For example, to set up an isolated
triplet 8th, you would have to assign a
I agree with those who say that starting a single-staff system with a barline is
incorrect. But Finale can do it either way. It's in the barline options in doc
options, but I don't remember the exact verbiage. Basically the option tells Finale
whether to draw the left line on single-staff
Has anyone seen this? When I installed MacFin04 (finally) I get the following error
message every time I start up:
Extract Lyrics: Plugin icon missing: -1409
Also, I always have to go thru the Tips and MIDI Setup rigamarole, like it doesn't
know how to save my settings.
I know I should ask
The linkage for plugins changed for FinMac2004. Plugins for MacFin2003
and earlier will not work with MacFin2004 even in OS9. This is not an OS
issue. It was a change in how MacFin talks to plugins.
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of Jari's plugins on Win2000 and Fin2004b with no problem,
including Forza (once I set my clock back to 2003). So whatever problems
Barbara's having might be related to something specific to Win98.
Aaron.
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Erm. I don't mean to be insulting or facetious, but have you actually *looked* at the
horn staves of any 19th century scores? Everything I've stated on this subject is
based neither on books nor assumptions. It is based on studying (esp.) 19th cent.
scores.
If you go back to when natural horns
John Bell:
I do the 1/3, 2/4 thing because...
I hope I made it clear that I agree there are many contexts where this makes sense.
Personally I happen to think for homophonic chordal passages, it makes more sense to
interlock the parts (i.e. 1/2, 3/4 staves), if for no other reason than to
First of all, in this discussion I'm speaking only of how the parts are presented on
the page. The topic of who plays higher than whom is huge and complicated and an
entirely separate issue. The short of it is, no rigid standard should be applied to
the horns or any other section of the
I must have missed the thrust of this thread. I use the shopping basket function of
Paypal. It works exactly like the Buy Now button, from the perspective of the seller.
I've never had an international transaction using the shopping cart, but I've had many
using Buy Now. No problems.
Paypal
FWIW: Many professional players these days are playing triple horns. A triple horn
adds the tubing-length of a mellophone as an option that is engaged with a thumb
trigger. Phil Myers, principal horn of the NY Phil, has stated that since he started
using the triple, his accuracy has improved
flat just because that's what Mozart asked for, so why shouldn't we add
the proper key signatures to his music to bring it into line with modern
notation standards?
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Precisely what makes it interesting.
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 23.02.2004 17:12 Uhr, Robert Patterson wrote
(An interesting situation *with* a key signature is the 3rd
movement of the Brahms Horn Trio.)
And wasn't that written for a valveless natural horn?
Johannes
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the parts on each line and thus making it
easier to read at a glance.
However, I have engraved it both ways, according to composer
preference. Is there any historical evidence to point to one method or
the other as being preferred?
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-3rd horn!
Andrew Stiller wrote:
Despite the difficulty of many first-horn parts, I confess I regard this
as more of a quasi-feudal perquisite of office than a real musical
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work without success. I select
the measure I want to copy, press set source, select the measure in which I
want it to be copied then press paste. The screen jumps but otherwise is
unchanged. Can you help me.
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say you?
Hal
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of the piece. In transposed view this displays as C
major. All accidentals are handled correctly.
Voila.
For music not in a key, or music entirely in C major (a minor), use
chromatic transposition.
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TIA,
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before). No doubt this is the source of many of these attachments.
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convenient, and allow me to order directly from the mill for
special sizes like 13x20. (What happens is: you order the large printer
sheets, like 22x34 or larger, and they cut them to the size you need.)
Darcy James Argue wrote:
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but the bottom note is much more difficult.
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Does anyone know a method to delete all notes from chords except for the top
note (for a mass mover selection)?
Johannes
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aren't as secure when you do.
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I installed my QuicKeys (v4.1) in my Classic folder. It works, but the
commands (esp. the menu commands for Finale tools) are unacceptably
sluggish. Has anyone else experienced this? Do QK5 users have the same
problem?
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I've been playing with Fin03 in Classic using the MidiBridge9X program for Midi, and I
must say it works really well. The only thing keeping me in OS9 (beside screen
rotation which I'm not using at the moment) is QuickKeys. Does anyone know if OS9
QuickKeys will work in Classic if I install the
I use a clean system folder for Classic for a number of reasons. Classic gave me
nothing but trouble until I did this. It was excellent advice from (I believe) Darcy.
I use several extension in OS9 that either don't work in Classic (like MacPortrait) or
aren't needed (like MasterJuggler). A
Has anyone seen this? Basically, note spacing suddenly started producing
wacky results on a particular measure in a piece. Essentially, it seems
not to see the accidentals. Furthermore, it only happens when certain
staves are selected.
MacFin03.
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the built-in ones, for this very reason (and others).
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No, because it's in the the last bar of a system; it's a single-standing 16
note, and I would like to have it beamed like if it had to be beamed to
another 16th note
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from what I've seen, and
notating them 2 8ves below sounding pitch would seem to be the most
optimal solution for fitting them on the clef. (I.e., written c'-c'''.)
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I was recently made aware of the Guides function. Even though it has
been around for a long time I had never examined it before.
What is mysterious is the apparent absence of guides in scroll view. In
scroll view is where I see them as particularly useful. Have I missed
something?
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As of now, plugins are only automated editing tools. That is, their effects do not
depend on the existence of the plugin. This may change in the future, but it should be
obvious if it does.
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to a much wider compass--a fully-realized alto bass
clef if you will. But the rest of the world did not follow them,
adopting instead the true bass clef for the horn. Hence the confusion
among many horn players now.
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I may not have seen all the other posts on this subject, so pardon me if this is a
duplicate. In addition to adding volumn and texture, another reason to use multiple
harps is to avoid awkward pedal changes in chromatic passages. I believe as early as
the Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique you can
In the Berlioz Fantastique score from Dover, I do not see how the harps
could perform the opening of the Ball without pedals or something
equally effective, but I do not know the history of harp pedals.
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 05.01.2004 23:51 Uhr, Robert Patterson wrote
I may not have
to buy some software upgrades and the occasional toy, but it hardly makes a
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I still have. To get
decent printing from any app in classic, I had to install the Adobe Type
Manager ctrl panel in my Classic system folder. Once I did that, I've
had no printing problems in Classic, generally speaking.
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time anybody
orders a copy. The number of files I have in pre-2K2 versions I would
estimate to be in the hundreds.
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Implode and Explode Music are essentially useless because they always requantize the
music. This is a long-standing problem about which I have bitterly complained for many
years (since v1.0.)
You are correct that this is a prime consideration for a plugin. (Lightbulb going off
in head.)
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Christopher BJ Smith wrote:
Sheesh! Maybe a macro would help.
Erm. You can mass copy a tuplet to an arbitrarily large selection range
(vertical as well as horizontal) in a matter of a few seconds using my
Mass Copy plugin. Better than a macro by far.
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this to 16th-note triplets, in 3/4. No
problem changing time sig and converting to tuplets one tuplet at a
time, BUT: is there a way to select a region and tupletize the whole
region in one go?
Thanks, Ch.S.
(PS-- Finale 2000c, Mac)
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Hello, Ole. The responses you have gotten so far are correct in that this is major
deficiency in Finale. I don't think there is any need for an additional global
setting, but a way to shorten individual secondary beams is definitely missing.
But no one has told you the best workaround. This
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I think SS will do what you need. It copies the staves by position, not
by number. So if 4 staves exist in the source and 4 in the target, the
names and positions in the target should be overwritten with those from
the source.
d. collins wrote:
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Patterson Beams can modify any flagged stem the same as stems without flags. It
depends on your options, which are fully explained at
http://www.robertgpatterson.com
The answer to the original poster's question is Patterson Beams.
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Patterson Beams adjusts stem lengths in these situations. PB comes free
w/ Fin02 or later. It also part of my plugin pkg that works w/ Fin2000
and later.
Pierre Bailleul wrote:
Do you know a way to change this globally without utilizing stem
length tool for each notes?
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To install Finale 2002 in Classic, just run the installer. However, getting Midi to
work in Classic is dicey. It is possible with certain interfaces and a bit of voodoo.
If you can boot into OS9, you are better off using Finale there.
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Is there some simple way to transpose only one note of two note chords
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section I entered
(Change) G# and (To) Ab. It worked perfectly for all measures.
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You can do everything you need to with Key Sig transposition by
combining with independent key signatures. For example, to set up an
Alto Sax part,
1. Set the transposition on the staff to Eb Key Signature
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You can do everything you need to with Key Sig
I have been under the impression that TGTools will create trill playback, but now I
can't find it. (I found tremolo playback and I found trill paren notes, but no trill
playback.) Have I missed something?
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vexing problem. Consider the pattern 16th note, 16th rest, 8th note. If this falls
withing a quarter beat, all three are beamed together. The problem is, the 16th beam
extends all the way over the 16th rest. I
note.
In any case, I will share the workaround I thought up. It's fairly easy and works
fairly well. The pattern is 16th note, 16th rest, 8th note. Simply hide the 16th rest
and then insert a visible one in V2. Hiding the V1 rest removes the beam.
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You can do everything you need to with Key Sig
You can do everything you need to with Key Sig transposition by combining with
independent key signatures. For example, to set up an Alto Sax part,
1. Set the transposition on the staff to Eb Key Signature transposition.
2. Set Independent Elements Key Signatures.
3. Change the key signature of
problems/issues
they have encountered especially in regard to playback of Finale files.
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I, too, have heard that many instrumentalists (specifically violinists) prefer leger
lines to 8va symbols. I can accept this up to 5-leger-line (and a half) c4. Do players
really prefer leger lines even higher? I'm currently working on a passage for violin
that hangs around e4 (6 leger lines in
meaning of table and not the American one. Here
we go yet further into the usage quagmire.)
previous poster(s):
Another problem with custom lines is that there really should be an option
whereby note-attached ones can automatically avoid accidentals and
augmentation dots.
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can't manage to
find this in my files. Apologies.)
Thanks,
Dennis
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Andrew Stiller's instrumentation book gave the state-of-the-art c. 1979 for extensions
as about 25% each of barry saxes and b. cls. have extension keys. (The barry sax to
written low a, and the b. cl. to written low c.)
I seem to remember on a discussion on this list that these extension keys
I sometimes have the impression that the Custom Line tool may be one of the most
underused really powerful things in Finale. In an offline conversation with a Coda
person, I complained that a major drawback of the CLT is that text (i.e., Left, Center
Full, or Right) that is visible in a score
staff scaling. This would achieve the other half of this
requirement (like pno chamber music): the ability to have consistent lines within
systems that have varying staff sizes.
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Never mind. I was mistaken about staff height. The lines are scaled with staff height.
I think I was fooled by a rounding error.
So (those of us who care) do still need a fixed line width option. And I still don't
know what Coda added staff height.
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one file to another?
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I read a review of Versavision somewhere that claimed that the ATI panel for it is
grayed out on G5's with 9800 graphics.
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 06:05 PM, Robert Patterson Finale wrote:
On the rotating-in-OSX front, the picture is not as rosy as I first
on letter size. My page text no longer explodes all over the pages of such
print runs.
We system-reducers have led you page-reducers to water. Will you drink?
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system redux from the start, you don't
really gain any of its advantages.
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. This particular aspect is just foreign to me
since I've never faced it; I'd like to be conversant with the kind of
situation that produces it or that could benefit from using it.
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I, for one, have never advocated changing old files. I'm talking only about going
forwards.
David H. Bailey wrote:
So tell me again how that is easier than doing page reduction where all
that stuff is done automatically?
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The primary advantage is that scaling systems gives you precise control over system
margins. Also, if you have varying system percentages, your page text remains the same
size without the need for fixed font attributes. The problem with fixed font
attributes is that when you want to produce a
which I would need to be able to access from time to time.
Thanks.
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Martin Banner
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My Mass Copy plugin can copy articulations correctly. (And it can clear the bogus
ones.) I use it all the time.
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Several years ago, when Randy Stokes was still a regular contributor to this list, he
floated the idea of fixed-width lines. I've wanted this for years for exactly the same
reasons Andrew does. At the time the idea was roundly derided as a waste of time by
almost all other list members.
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What is the
advantage of 4 over 5, in your opinion?
Speed, speed, and speed. Reader 4 launches in a fraction of the time of 5 and esp.
shudder 6.
And where is it available for
download these days?
You might
directory. The new DiskWarrior boots in OSX, so you'll get to see your iMac running
OSX if you use DiskWarrior.
Andrew Stiller wrote:
Now *that* is news I can use! I'll call Mac Warehouse as soon as I get
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the new directory. (This would allow you to be
assured that you weren't going to lose your important files.) But it's so reliable I
long ago quit being cautious with it. Now I just breezily OK thru all the dialogs.
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Craig Parmerlee wrote:
Every time, Finale is
using the measure-attached properties, not the note-attached properties.
Check the metatool setting in the Expression Menu. Also, turn on colors. Then you can
tell immediately if you've put in a note-attached or meas-attached exp.
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