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[AsburyPark] Sharon Boone invites you to join My Opera
Hi there, Hi there! Sharon Boone invites you to join My Opera. At My Opera you can blog, share photos, keep up with friends and much more. Sharon Boone says: Due to a phishing of my Yahoo Account, I invite you all to continue to contact me, but email me at: teenybo...@verizon.net Sorry for the spam in your mailboxes. The last individual that did this was from China, from what Yahoo explained to me. Join us at http://my.opera.com/community/signup?referrer=9390e3a5922e97ac38653fbeabbcca0a Regards, Sharon Boone http://my.opera.com/sgboone/ -- My Opera [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
Jack, I agree! So why aren't well-heeled Thieves like Madoff, not being prosecuted? While this country has taken a giant step in electing Obama, an everyman from the generation, I thought, years ago would lead us into seeing the worth of everyone. A young man from your generation, with fresh ideas that seem honest on its' face. Look at the treatment he's (Madoff), getting for defrauding millions from honest, hard-working Americans and using them in the biggest Ponzi scheme perpetrated so far. As far as some party going posters here, I don't think Obama would waste $20 bucks on a drink! Neither would I. Matter of fact, I told a very dear friend, that I would concoct my OWN Cosmos myself, at home! I don't consider myself cheap, by the fact I own bottles of scotch worth over $200.US and wines worth over $50. right here! I find those prices excessive and I guess though it's whatever the market will bear, so for those who think it's a bargain, go for it! I have to smack my own wrist for paying $20 bucks for an absinthe, so touche! On a PS, my Bush clock ran out to 00:00 at 12:01 AM, 1/20/08. Our long nightmare is OVER! Putting it and other Obama keepsakes in a 2009 scrapbook. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: It's not about spending for the economy's sake. It's about spending responsibly. Too many of our citizens are over there heads in debt. Too many people bought homes they couldn't afford. I think that's what Oak is talking about. We also need to curb predatory creditors that pray on people's inability to read the fine print and understand what they are getting into. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I also agree about spending like fools Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Save GRock
Station 101.5 is NJ101.5, the New Jersey Station. 105.3 is classified as urban/Black radio. The term Black was coined in 1964, when James Brown had a hit called Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud. Saying that one is Black is a self defining word in the Black Community. Even though most of us self define ourselves as African-Americans, the term Black simplifies who we are. Because of slavery, most of us don't know which tribe in Africa we came from. Better yet, study Black History and the bizarre system that separated families or better yet, read up on The Katrina Effect, how Blacks were given one-way tickets out of town, separating children and pets. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: http://www.petitiononline.com/grock/petition.html Interesting you bring up the radio. This morning, my kids must of had on 101.5 which I guess is mostly african american. The host was talking about how now maybe black kids, especially young men, will look at Obama as a real role model. He went to say that Philly has only a 48% graduation rate among black males, newark 50%. While he continued talking, he didn't change HIS rap - ain't - I don't know how many times, he do that - just continued the slang talk while talking about Obama will change and be a leader for young black people. Why not start by changing the talk radio lingo? Another question I've been asking about - Is it me, or has the world changed from african-american to black as referring to obama and the general population. Seems that has been the case the past two weeks. Let the educators take over from here. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fw: Fwd: Obama pics
Denise, I get this group in digest form. Can you email me the link? Thanks, SB --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise denisem...@... wrote: - Forwarded Message From: Alexander, Tierra D CPL MIL USA USAMEDCOM tierra.alexan...@... To: denisem...@... Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:54:18 PM Subject: Fwd: Obama pics -Inline Attachment Follows- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: Good morning newbee, I was wondering where the anonymous malcontent was. Just to let you know I drove through town and by the boardwalk last night and there were LOTS of people enjoying AP. Spending their money eating and drinking and taking up parking spaces and providing work for all sorts of people paying sales sales tax etc. But you wouldn't know that because you don't live here. and again, I'll call you on who you really are. I think mark mentioned it once. You probably aren't new to ap, just a shit stirrer. maybe a failed business owner licking wounds and trying to create misery (unhappy people are good at that). I'll second that Gabrielle! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 44 U.S. Presidents -- Very Cool
Amazing! I was transfixed! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim mw...@... wrote: 44 U.S. Presidents -- Very Cool VERY INTERESTING HOW THIS IS DONEA SEAMLESS TRANSITION FROM ONE PIC TO ANOTHER. . Click website below and turn up the volume. Forty four presidents, backed=2 0by Ravel's Bolero. http://www.flixxy.com/presidents-morphing.htm http://WWW.flixxy.. Com/presidents- morphing. htm Michael W. Brim 321 Sunset Avenue, Unit 5F Asbury Park NJ 07712-5550 Cell: 732-996-8160 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Anyway, I'm just gRe: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: Thanks Glenn! That's second photo rocks. The glass block walls were very cool looking, as was the neon. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: The only pictures that I can find of The Clover Club: http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/005/005QRj-13430584.jpg http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/005/005QRj-13430584.jpg http://flickr.com/photos/joeypatina/3076836949/sizes/o/ http://flickr.com/photos/joeypatina/3076836949/sizes/o/ Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I'd love to see some photos of the Clover Club. I also think that in general, college age kids could care less about Springsteen music. I was thinking more about his role in music tourism to AP, but who knows. I'm probably wrong, and while he's huge in the world, he's not as vital as he was during the arena rock days. His new CD seems to be disliked even by hardcore fans. I definitely agree about the 18 issue. I just made it too. I can recall going to The Pour House in Tinton Falls for lunch during my senior year. Those were the days. I also recall working at the Haunted Mansion. I did that for one summer for a whopping $3.10 an hour and loving it. Good times. Maybe I'm just too nostalgic. I loved the time period we are talking about. Loved working at Criterion Chocolates in 2 locations in AP, 1 in Ocean Grove and 1 on the LB boardwalk. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: The Saint has a great scene. When we were in HS and College (we're the same age) we had the original Saint - The Clover Club. 2fers, cheap beer and kamikaze pitchers. They had a pool table I can sit here and recall the ride from sea bright to Belmar and once in while- dumps in Brick,Point or Seaside. In those days Long Branch we had the Pier. Frat nights for free or $1. I never heard of a cosmoHeinekens were a treat as was stealing cases of st pauli girls from my friends grandfathers garage in deal... College was real easy. We just made the drinking age of 18. How much do you think that killed the scene. You drank and drove but had brains, right? You got stopped - you pretty much would be told to go home. Not just the drinking age laws - but the promos as well - 2 fer 1, free booze hours, ladies free, and a hell lot more bands that were either free or what I thought was cheap. How much was booze? The boathouse was the rescue and we had .75 lowenbrau mugs... The MU kids now try to party at home with closed blinds so they don't get raided It's not yesterday - it's today. Times are different and the laws have changed. As have many peoples spending habits... and at MU, according to my dad, they dropped about 250 kids from the spring semester - above average drop rate. Could be tied to parents $. Do the kids at MU really care about Springsteen? Or will they go where their friends are or where THEY know or hop in a car and go to AC or NYC... or hang in the basement of that rented house in ocean with the kegs running? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Well, I'm just glaRe: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: Thanks Glenn! That's second photo rocks. The glass block walls were very cool looking, as was the neon. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: The only pictures that I can find of The Clover Club: http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/005/005QRj-13430584.jpg http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/005/005QRj-13430584.jpg http://flickr.com/photos/joeypatina/3076836949/sizes/o/ http://flickr.com/photos/joeypatina/3076836949/sizes/o/ Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I'd love to see some photos of the Clover Club. I also think that in general, college age kids could care less about Springsteen music. I was thinking more about his role in music tourism to AP, but who knows. I'm probably wrong, and while he's huge in the world, he's not as vital as he was during the arena rock days. His new CD seems to be disliked even by hardcore fans. I definitely agree about the 18 issue. I just made it too. I can recall going to The Pour House in Tinton Falls for lunch during my senior year. Those were the days. I also recall working at the Haunted Mansion. I did that for one summer for a whopping $3.10 an hour and loving it. Good times. Maybe I'm just too nostalgic. I loved the time period we are talking about. Loved working at Criterion Chocolates in 2 locations in AP, 1 in Ocean Grove and 1 on the LB boardwalk. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: The Saint has a great scene. When we were in HS and College (we're the same age) we had the original Saint - The Clover Club. 2fers, cheap beer and kamikaze pitchers. They had a pool table I can sit here and recall the ride from sea bright to Belmar and once in while- dumps in Brick,Point or Seaside. In those days Long Branch we had the Pier. Frat nights for free or $1. I never heard of a cosmoHeinekens were a treat as was stealing cases of st pauli girls from my friends grandfathers garage in deal... College was real easy. We just made the drinking age of 18. How much do you think that killed the scene. You drank and drove but had brains, right? You got stopped - you pretty much would be told to go home. Not just the drinking age laws - but the promos as well - 2 fer 1, free booze hours, ladies free, and a hell lot more bands that were either free or what I thought was cheap. How much was booze? The boathouse was the rescue and we had .75 lowenbrau mugs... The MU kids now try to party at home with closed blinds so they don't get raided It's not yesterday - it's today. Times are different and the laws have changed. As have many peoples spending habits... and at MU, according to my dad, they dropped about 250 kids from the spring semester - above average drop rate. Could be tied to parents $. Do the kids at MU really care about Springsteen? Or will they go where their friends are or where THEY know or hop in a car and go to AC or NYC... or hang in the basement of that rented house in ocean with the kegs running? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Jack-Memories
I Tried unsuccessfully to reply to your last post, so here goes. Maybe because your memory reflects my own memories of what Asbury Park WAS, through the eyes of a (then) child, I can relate to your early club days, the music, just about everything, because my kids reflect the exact same things! This being the weekend of change, I can't, not even once, remember anything or anyone harboring or showing me any racial animosity, in AP. I never heard from my kids that they were treated unfairly. I heard after the fact, when I took my kids, sister and niece who were visiting us in the late 70's, that Asbury Park's Beach was racially segregated. In that regard, I'm glad I didn't know this, although I don't dispute what others have said in that regard. I have color photos of my kids on the jetty and when I show them, others ask, where is this? When I say Asbury Park, they look stunned! I say, must have been my winning smile! Let's face it, after 5 kids, I was just beginning to HAVE a body! Remember, I was a very LATE bloomer! I have been known, more than once, to sing Born in the USA, out loud to my kids astonished looks that I actually KNOW the words! When I began to repeat rap lyrics, they would feel my forehead! I'm talking about Grand Master Flash, not the kind of rap where the B word is used or other profanities. I even like Country Music and Country Comedy or Red Neck Humor! Jack and others born in the 60's, you're entitled to your memories just as I loved the days of Howdy Doody, Lucy and the first series of the Mickey Mouse Club and American Bandstand! Me? I was Gene Autry, the singing cowboy, complete with black outfit, red leather boots and 2 shiny, silver cap pistols! I lived in a fantasy world! Sometimes I still do, but it's OK, because back when I was young, I could always go there. I just did. God Bless! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Important, Mounted Police - Please Read....
Mario, As usual, a day late and a pound short! Both articles are in the Local Section! I don't read the paper unless it's a day old! I'm usually hobbling around in my ski-boot, taking meds or trying to figure out if I'm wearing PJ's all day or sweats! Big decisions that take me ALL day! Sorry, Glenn! I guess breaking news comes online, before the printed version hits the streets! As the famous line in Casablanca goes, I'm Shocked! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: In a message dated 1/15/2009 9:21:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sharon_b...@... writes: Still didn't find the bank article, but RB said he saw it! Still looking. The local luncheonette was abuzz with talk of the PNC robbery yesterday morning. I tried yesterday to find the story at app.com but I guess they don't do breaking news. Here it is today: _Police seeking man who robbed Asbury bank | APP.com | Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/article/20090115/NEWS01/901150450/1004/NEWS01) _http://www.app.com/article/20090115/NEWS01/901150450/1004/NEWS01_ (http://www.app.com/article/20090115/NEWS01/901150450/1004/NEWS01) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
Excellent Post! You've summed up this town in one simple paragraph. So sad, but every word is true! What's in the redevelopment for us? Absolutely nothing! Just speaking Truth to Power! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: The city blew it again. Yesterday a major exhibit was announced for the R n R Hall of Fame... a Bruce exhibit. Of course AP will be a part of that exhibit. And here we are with our most well known and recognizable export, with nothing. And what do we get? A boardwalk with mostly failing high end retail, acres of empty parking lots, and the ugly piece of crap C8 part 2 destined to mar the landscape for an indefinite time. I guess that's what we get when we allow a company who focuses on malls and retails to guide our destiny. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another lost opportunity for AP - Bruce exhibit at RnR HOF
Know what? I'mm old enough to be both of your mothers, but I have the same attitude as YOU do! Nostalgia my you know what! Those were YOUR times, YOUR memories and I don't see a damn thing wrong with that! I can see it through your eyes, as I have kids your age, the whole WNEW thing, which coming out of the 60's, I would write the notes to Neptune High School allowing my kids to skip to be released for a once in a lifetime day! I received a phone call at my job, because the principal didn't believe I wrote it, (the note)! Yes, I was a regular drill sargeant at home, because with 5 kids, I didn't see why they couldn't keep order at home! My idea of a good time, was to pack the car and go up to Yankee Stadium to see a game or in the summer go to the Meadowlands for a Budweiser Beer Fest! I'm sure my kids thought I was a pain in the ass, more than once! I call it discipline! You only get one childhood, so why can't it be happy? Anyway, my kids still recall many of the group things we did together, especially since they didn't have to pay for anything! I've gotten early tans, because one of them was playing Babe Ruth Ball or driving to Delaware to see my youngest son run in college. Oak and Jack, I'm feeling BOTH of you and I'm on the same page as you! So what! Someone in this group always sees what others do or feel as insignificant because THEY can't relate, but trust me, I do and I'm glad you remember when the drinking age dropped to 18. Both of my sons could then meet up with us and have a drink on who? Us! Of course! Keep your memories close! Some of us can't relate, but damn it I do! I still party, have a good time and get my drunk on sometimes! At least I tell the truth! I never had the guts to go into the Haunted Mansion, but my scary girls went and came out all shook up! I laughed until I cried when I was told the rats ran across one daughters feet and she jumped on her brothers back for the rest of the ride! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: I'd love to see some photos of the Clover Club. I also think that in general, college age kids could care less about Springsteen music. I was thinking more about his role in music tourism to AP, but who knows. I'm probably wrong, and while he's huge in the world, he's not as vital as he was during the arena rock days. His new CD seems to be disliked even by hardcore fans. I definitely agree about the 18 issue. I just made it too. I can recall going to The Pour House in Tinton Falls for lunch during my senior year. Those were the days. I also recall working at the Haunted Mansion. I did that for one summer for a whopping $3.10 an hour and loving it. Good times. Maybe I'm just too nostalgic. I loved the time period we are talking about. Loved working at Criterion Chocolates in 2 locations in AP, 1 in Ocean Grove and 1 on the LB boardwalk. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Important, Mounted Police - Please Read....
The article is in the mail! It went out today to you, from AP Post Office. It was in Wednesday's Press and has photos of the officers on horseback. Still didn't find the bank article, but RB said he saw it! Still looking. S. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawpr...@... wrote: Sorry everyone, Nevermind... the article I referred to was in the early edition today. I was asking as an online poster commented that maybe the mounted police might catch the bank robbers. I found the comment odd as I had not heard of any robberies. When I read about the PNC Bank robbery tonight, I recalled having read the article - but I could not recall if I had read the comment today or yesterday. I thought that someone had commented yesterday about a bank robbery that happened today. Wrong. I try. I may visit AP this weekend, I'll let you know, Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: Hi all, I have been so busy and I may be mistaken, however, there was an article in the Asbury Press either today or yesterday. The article spoke about how the City did not have enough money to sustain the AP mounted police. The article spoke about a non-profit being formed. I viewed this article online. I am not talking about the article online right now which discusses the donations which have saved the mounted police. The initial article which I am asking about is no longer available online. Can anyone tell me when that first article was in the Press? Was it today or yesterday? I have an important reason for wanting to know and it has nothing to do with the mounted police. Thanks, Glenn Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why was a dumpster buried at the Met hotel site?
The DEP in Trenton, http://www.nj.org., I think or the Division of Consumer Affairs. Another would be the NJ Division of Homeland Security or its' parent, FEMA. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: This morning, I was told by 2 reliable friends that the dumpster that was sitting in front of the Met hotel was recently buried on the site. What's in the dumpster? Why was it buried? They believe that some kind of toxic waste was buried along with it. Can somebody direct me who to report this to? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why was a dumpster buried at the Met hotel site?
Wow! That's so cool! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise denisem...@... wrote: give me at call at the health dept 732-431-7456 From: Jack Pitzer hing...@... To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:11:33 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Why was a dumpster buried at the Met hotel site? This morning, I was told by 2 reliable friends that the dumpster that was sitting in front of the Met hotel was recently buried on the site. What's in the dumpster? Why was it buried? They believe that some kind of toxic waste was buried along with it. Can somebody direct me who to report this to? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why was a dumpster buried at the Met hotel site?
It happens because of politics, the publics perception of Asbury, that it's somehow okay to dump on us! Don't want to call any names but certain contractors get ALL of the demolition work around here, something I've noticed over the decades! Probably no-bid contracts. I heard testimony at a few zoning board meetings about illegal dumping where the riots took place on many of those vacant lots. Tales of stoves, refrigerators, etc. dumped, then filled in to make the lots look level! No names were provided as to who did the dumping, but I think the posters here, know exactly who it is! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: Is there any possibility that burying a dumpster at the site was somehow approved? The 2 gentlemen that alerted it to me this morning are completely credible. They live right next door in the tower, and both said they saw it happen. I was wondering the same thing when i saw that the dumpster was missing. If this was something illegal, how could it happen without being noticed by anybody from the city? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- NJ DEP Department of enviromental protection http://www.state.nj.us/dep/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why was a dumpster buried at the Met hotel site?
Probably asbestos debris. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawpr...@... wrote: Hmm, I had to give this a few moments of thought, but I may be on to something. That red dumpster has annoyed me too and I don't even live in the city. Thinking back to my frustration, I believe that I had wondered how and why someone would allow a dumpster to sit there for so long. Dumpsters are rented and the longer that they sit there, the more they cost. I recall wondering why Christiello - or whomever was paying for that big red eyesore had not had it removed. I don't know who's dumpster it is/was, but it was clearly not a DeLisa dumpster. Knowing (and assuming) that Christiello is from Morristown, the Carter might not have been local. So, let's suppose that the business of being Mayor of Morristown distracts a person enough to have forgotten that there was a red dumpster working up a large rental bill in Asbury Park. The bill goes to collections and a phone call is placed. The Billee calls one of thier friends and ask then to make the dumpster disappear so that the billee can report to the Carter that they have no idea where it went, Gee, I thought you took it away. Dumpster gets buried, proof is on the Carter, billee is laughing privately. Hinge's friend foil the plot. I looked through that dumpster. I am sure that there *could* be toxins in there, but it appeared to be just junk. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: This morning, I was told by 2 reliable friends that the dumpster that was sitting in front of the Met hotel was recently buried on the site. What's in the dumpster? Why was it buried? They believe that some kind of toxic waste was buried along with it. Can somebody direct me who to report this to? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: EVICTIONS 170
Oak, That's why I have a problem wth the phrase single Mom! For a stick-in-the-mud-old married lady, single Mom meant an unwed Mother! Today, it's any woman raising kids alone. I prefer divorcee, a once married woman and widower, meaning the man/woman is dead! Single Mom, conjures up a lot of negative pictures for me. Whatever! Not familiar with your acronyms either. Don't know what BK means since I'm not in the real estate business. All I know how to do is read and negotiate contracts and manage projects, thus project management! As far as Sears, I guess I was just lucky. When I left New Orleans, my washer and dryer, both Sears, lasted 20 years! I gave them to my Mom, who had just bought her first home, when she and my dad divorced and my youngest sister was in her last year of undergrad in college. Anything made in China means cheap and poorly made! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: No disrespect, but your post reinforced negative assumptions about those who rent, women who make bad choices, etc. Then you said: I wasn't comment just about people who rent. I should of clarified it. The woman who I know who never married the kids father, but lives together for 14 years, is able to file BK among other things isn't that uncommon. It's a broken system, across all races and classes. Men make bad choices as well. Some especially in how they write ): It's just that some people don't realize or don't care about having a responsbility to renting OR owning. The new Landlord Tenant judge is african-american. NJ has is actually one of the toughest PRO tenant states. And granted there are plenty of scum landlords. That's where a town, and those with vouchers etc, also have the state inspectors on their side to pressure the landlords. The landlord has to pay their bills as well. Taxes mortgage Maitenance Insurance etc. Again, the judge made a statement before she starts explaining it simply. Some landlords are there for a couple hundred $. Others more. Some even less. The system isn't perfect - far from perfect. And there has been plenty of money not just at fed bailouts to corps, but plenty ver the years to numerous programs. What's that $85millon year to just ap schools - not a bailout to property owners in AP? It has to be done and I don't how it can be done fairly. Life is not fair I was always told - so work hard. People that abuse the system make it worse for those truly in need. If you have a rent subsidized house in NYC and you sublet it and pocket the change - fair or not? IF you rent out a room in a home you get a voucher for and don't report it - fair or unfair? If you don't pay your rent, tell your landlord (or bank if you own) go ahead and evict me and proceed to party in front of that new tv - fair or unfair? You worked hard and did it right - so is it fair or unfair? Or is it the system. Did you listen to Obama the other day? It's ugly out there if you're in one of thos positons that is being eliminated or you're competing against an outside company. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Huge Moon Tonight
I saw it on TV for the same reason! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, gg...@... wrote: its cloudy out Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: EVICTIONS 170
No disrespect, but your post reinforced negative assumptions about those who rent, women who make bad choices, etc. Then you said: Hopefully Mr. Obama can do more then stimulate us with money that will then likely be pissed away - I hope so, too! Why didn't you include the Trillion, that H.W. Bush has already pissed away and Obama is left to clean up? Have the 750 Billion the Banks and Wall St. have already gotten been accounted for yet? Just wondering. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: This morning in M. County Court, there were 170 cases before the judge in Landlord Tenant Court for evictions. Many were dismissed, but quite a few either defaulted (no show) or both showed. edited Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: speaking of gayness...
Most therapists HAVE a therapists themselves! Read the book, August. It is hilarious and sad about what happens when therapists leave NYC for thier month long vacation in the month of, you guessed it, August! The AP library should have a copy. Don't know if it's still in print. It's quite thick, but you can't put it down once you start reading it. A sort of Catcher in The Rye, type book! The therapist in the Sopranos had a therapist too! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: She was claiming that cases of homosexuality have been cured through therapy. How many? then so should being straight, gay, boring or married or single be a diease. Many therapists need therapy themselves. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: speaking of gayness...
Just going to interject my 2 cents. As a longtime married, being Gay is not the same as being mental! I don't see being Gay as a condition for one and for another, I don't see it as treatable. It is what it is! I have a tough time as it is being straight! I've been through therapy but not for my sexuality. I have problems dealing with MY reality, much less someone's elses drives, sexual or not. Since I don't understand for lack of a better word, what it is to be attracted to the same sex, I don't judge someone as being sick or mental, if they are or gravitate to a person of the same sex. Trying to diagnose someone, is like someone pretending to be a lawyer without a license! Since I am not Gay, I don't try to figure it out no more than the pigmentation of my skin, makes me Black. Just me thinking out loud! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: She was claiming that cases of homosexuality have been cured through therapy. How many? I dont' know...thats the thing, I need to find it again. I am sure that was her claim and that it involved the DSM categorization. I can't believe I didn't make a note of it. I will spend some time over the wknd to google like a maniac. But I would love if someone else caught it. then so should being straight, gay, boring or married or single be a diease. yeah, thats what is so funny. but ideology can make us believe anything. I dont' actually doubt that there are people who go into therapy identifying as same sex loving and change. Gender and sexuality are much more fluid than we like to think. Lots of women waffle in the bi scene I imagine. Many therapists need therapy themselves. Amen! They are some of the sickest mental cases out there. and they have savior complexes to boot. But there are also some great ones. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: speaking of gayness...
I believe that THIS is what I was trying to say. Many thanks! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: In a message dated 1/8/2009 7:29:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabrielleo...@... writes: The other night on the bike at the gym I was flipping channels and stumbled on some talk showThere was a woman being interviewed who was claiming that one of the decision makers at the DSM...She was claiming that cases of homosexuality have been cured through therapy. == DMS Reparative Therapy: 1. American Medical Association: _http://tinyurl.com/6v9vt6_ (http://tinyurl.com/6v9vt6) 2. American Psychiatric Association: American Psychiatric Association Statement _http://archive.psych.org/edu/other_res/lib_archives/archives/21.pdf_ (http://archive.psych.org/edu/other_res/lib_archives/archives/21.pdf) 3. American Psychological Association: American Psychological Association Statement _http://tinyurl.com/9q4gg9_ (http://tinyurl.com/9q4gg9) 4. American Psychoanalytic Association Reparative Therapy _http://tinyurl.com/7r4trz_ (http://tinyurl.com/7r4trz) 5. The American Academy of Pediatrics _http://tinyurl.com/a7qm96_ (http://tinyurl.com/a7qm96) 6. PFLAG: Parents, Families, Friends of Lesbians and Gays _http://tinyurl.com/7ptspu_ (http://tinyurl.com/7ptspu) === From: _http://www.fallwell.com/index2.html_ (http://www.fallwell.com/index2.html) _http://tinyurl.com/9o3uug_ (http://tinyurl.com/9o3uug) 1. Bible verses not taken literally _http://tinyurl.com/klkkh_ (http://tinyurl.com/klkkh) 2. Proof that fundamentalists selectively quote the Bible _http://tinyurl.com/m246w_ (http://tinyurl.com/m246w) 3. Does the Bible really call gay and lesbian people immoral? _http://tinyurl.com/9bmke4_ (http://tinyurl.com/9bmke4) 4. What would Jesus do about Jerry Falwell? _http://tinyurl.com/8tst6c_ (http://tinyurl.com/8tst6c) 5. The truth about interpreting the Bible _http://tinyurl.com/8kjgvz_ (http://tinyurl.com/8kjgvz) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Find a New Business Plan before You Vanish
Funny, I've kept half of my vinyl collection. Cheap vinyl can be found at the Salvation Army on Main St. I've bought some great classical and early jazz records. Just bought one of those vinyl converter machines that will let you copy your vinyl onto CD's. Beats boredom! The media changed very rapidly in the late 70's from vinyl to 8-Track, then cassettes, then very rapidly CD's, MP3's, Apple I-pods, now Blu-Ray! I give up trying to keep up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: In a message dated 1/8/2009 9:32:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hing...@... writes: Amazingly, vinyl records sales are up more then 80% this years. Why? Nostalgia factor, plus new generations are discovering that it's nice to hold an album in your hands, and cover art is being rediscovered. Plus, vinyl is now cheaper. I think it's time for me to get a new record player. I miss vinyl. It still sounds better then CDs. Couple of great cover art books out there. My favorite http://tinyurl.com/7e5t7z Consider the lp turntables with USB cable and Cakewalk software. **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is there a health clinic in AP?
There are also clinic-like physicians on Davis Ave. in Neptune, behind the Neptune Police Station, adjacent to the Emergency Room at Jersey Shore Medical Center. They're either free or pay on a sliding scale. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise denisem...@... wrote: There was one in Neptune but I think they had to relocate since they had a fire. The walk-in clinic located in Shoprite is on a sliding fee scale. Call the Monmouth County Health Department (732) 431-7456 for a list of other local free or low cost clinics. There is one in Freehold that is similar to the Parker House in Red Bank From: Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2009 2:13:16 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Is there a health clinic in AP? Like the Parker in RB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Year in Review
Best review I've seen so far and very clever! Thanks! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWiXy55OHyY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: you say tomato... I say.....
You can say that again! I yell back at the TV, when a commentator says that Bush won 2 elections and I say since when? Bush was no more than a puppet for Cheney! If anything went bad on Bush's watch, they don't blame Cheney, they blame Bush. Obama has'nt taken the oath yet, and already he's being blamed for the recession/depression. Bush is still giving billions away to the corporate elite, who screwed this country and are still rewarding themselves with golden parachutes, while the little guy is screwed over and over! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: Unless it's stolen. On Dec 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: its not thanks to Bush. Its thanks to We the People. George Bernard Shaw: Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: That's because we live in the Lite-version of a fascist state, thanks to Bush: The enabling media, the greedy corporations and a neutered government, all synchronized. On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Gabrielle Obre wrote: I don't think the TCN is a real news paper. But the Press is a joke and people consider it a news outlet which is disturbing. Can't say much about the Coaster, everytime I look at it i see pretty vanilla, PR type stories. our area is completely malnourished in terms of thought provoking, taking the powers/people to task journalism. But then again look at what is mainstream. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube traderdube@ wrote: Has any one of these pundits looked at the TCN? It is not a newspaper. It has zero journalistic qualitities. For every ten ads there an opinion essay by underpaid writers. This nonsense is an affront to the Caroll family and the Coaster which is a true newspaper with real reporters and real news and real ad rates. This is a joke and should be dismissed as a joke. No offense to Dan, he should run with the publicity and kudos to him for figuring out how to take advantage of of niche market but to compare him to other true newspapers like the AP Press or the Coaster is blatantly wrong. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Internet and Christmas Day....
Great info! Wasn't online for 2 days, but watched an expose' that dealt with homeowners and renters being evicted from homes! (News 12 NJ). Very sad, in the case of renters who are paid up only to be given eviction notices because the owner defaulted. It's against the law to evict a renter, simply because the owner defaulted. Didn't know that and renters should attend whatever workshops available. When school closed for the holidays, a disabled woman, renting told me a story about her landlord not providing heat. This was when the temp was down to 14-19 degrees. I advised her to call Fair Housing in Freehold and to file a complaint with the Asbury Park Police, for the record. Also Code enforcement in City Hall should have been notified. It's criminal to deprive someone of heat and/or hot water! The lady didn't seem to know what her options were. She is on Section 8 and I informed her that Uncle Sam had already paid her rent, so under the law, she should complain to them, also. Code Enforcement will send a representative over to the address and survey any violations, contact the landlord and give them X days, hours or whatever to fix these problems. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: In looking some stats to see what was popular on one of my sites Christmas Day (whose searching for what...) Two most popular searches: 1. Section 8 Housing 2. Evictions Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Cities, Light, Stars. Art, Pollution
Yeah! I fall down and I go BOOM! Wish there was SOME light on Christmas Eve! Maybe I could live like OTHER normal people! I'm a wreck! I'm a survivor, though! As Eddie Murphy would say in his best British accent, Berry New Year! Ha, ha, ha, hah! Trading Places. Like Aunt Bunny, his hairy Aunt, who he suspects is a Sasquatch, falling down the stairs, in his RAW routine! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: Intended to complement some recent discussions here about the uses of light in Asbury Park. âFull Constant Light,â (NYT Art, 12/26/08) Excerpts from _http://tinyurl.com/9vxaht_ (http://tinyurl.com/9vxaht) At this dark time of the year, we like light. So we have festivals of light: Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Christmas, and New Yearâs Eve tooâ¦. To a large degree cities are constructed of light enclosed and released⦠.Same city, different impressions of light. But this is true in any neighborhood, anywhere, just as it is true of images of light in art spread across the city. And the way light looks depends a lot on whoâs lookingâ¦. Time passed. Culture changed. And light, ever volatile, has taken on many other roles in art. Sometimes it is used to obscure rather than clarify meaning. Sometimes it serves as a warning rather than a warming agentâ¦. = (http://tinyurl.com/9vxaht) Preserving the Starry Night in the Glare of Light Pollution December 26, 2008, By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Excerpt from _http://tinyurl.com/8yegpx_ (http://tinyurl.com/8yegpx) [A] team of night owls whose job is to gaze at the sky and monitor light pollution in parksâ¦.The International Dark-Sky Association, an Arizona-based nonprofit whose slogan is âCarpe Noctem,â has noticed an increased awareness of light pollution, but acknowledged limits. = Carpe Noctern: Love it! Happy Holidaze to all. And carpe diem. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
Mario, I will now go back to ignoring as if he doesn't exist, this resident troll, who manages to get me off course, as far as Asbury Park, it's comeback or demise, to take even 2 seconds to reply to such bigoted rantings! To the rest of the group, I humbly apologize for having become the subject of an apparent wannabe Klansman/separatist/bigoted/segregationists/skinhead, that make all citizens Black/White or other, practice this stupidity and try to ruin our common goal and that is to address the redevelopment or not of this beloved City. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote: Keeping your eyes on the prize means finishing high school. You were never a slave so get over it. Farrakhan is a segragationist and a terrific calypso dancer back in the day I might add. Save your slave speech I can't listen to that crap anymore. To me Liberal means FREE STUFF! From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@... To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45:40 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You! Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you, that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/ states rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I call myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it! --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You really have to get out of AP more this is not the real world. If a person subbscribes to your leftist views they can say and charge whatever they choose and you look the other way.Well I don't. The likes of sharon can't polish Powell or Rice's shoes. If blacks speak that way they speak that way. You choose to look the other way you do that. Did you ever correct a kid that spoke or wrote that way? Probably not. Not politically correct! These aren't ESL students we are talking about here. Weren't there race riots 40 years ago? What they hell are you talking about? More Thorazine for my friend here! _ _ __ From: Mario MarioAPNJ@ .. To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26:24 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts In a message dated 12/21/2008 4:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: Well Mario you can deal with reality or pretend there is a yellow brick road. Your solution is humbug to reality and continue to pretend things are the way they were more than 40 years ago. They are not nor will they ever be again. = = = Well, Mike, I just looked out the window, and that good ol' Scottish black tar Macadam road is still there. I'm also thankful that things are not as they were 40+ years ago when the yellow bile of your sentiments was more common. I'm referring specifically to your comments such as these: You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English and can complete a sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in thereMaybe Bush should have selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented the US much betterAll I can say is I hope some of you, or your families, cross paths with the people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing you will see before the end money. Work on getting some instead of whining about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? Blacks are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way ticket is still here waiting. How about Africa? The reality is that most of the country is of Good Will and has moved closer to the ideals we've always professed than we were 40+ years ago. Join us. = _ _ From: marioa...@aol. com marioa...@aol. com To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:01:40 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Humbug to such posts More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining misanthropes posting here, always trying to poison the well. All the malice like that reminds me of Lee Atwater's words, a month before he died: My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what was missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood. ... Lots of other historical changes-of-heart, from George Wallace and Trent Lott to Ken Mehlman. I guess they all finally realized that Luke added to Men of Good Will to And on Earth, Peace In a message dated 12/20/2008 5:24:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN - All Paper, No News
Soft content? Some of it is downright insulting, IMHO! They are even caustic, if they consider you, the enemy! I've seen TCN go after some individuals, like a vendetta! I have to agree with the ad content. I remember when the Coaster was free, then was a quarter and I forget what it costs now. I find the Coaster to be an alternative newspaper to the Press and the TCN, which when it began was REALLY good, especially during political campaigns, to being a gotcha critic and sometime feisty, like I said to its' perceived enemies. If they don't like you, they go after you with a vengeance! Not the 1st alternative that used expletives either! Over all, they've stuck it to City Hall and the so-called developers, who have done this City in with their carrot antics and the City has swallowed their lies! TCN tells it like it is! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: In a message dated 12/23/2008 3:40:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dfsav...@... writes: As I said, the Pennysaver. Is that just a NY term? == Nope: Excerpt: Making a profitable penny saver is a lot easier than making a real, profitable news operation that serves its community. It sounds like the triCityNews exists to be a pleasant place for local advertisers. It has lots of ad space that is surrounded by soft, friendly content. Even Carr admits that the triCityNews is âboosterish.â Maybe it even has some friendly content thrown in about frequent advertisers. Good for the triCityNews for serving the advertisers of Ashbury Park. Nothing wrong with that. Itâs just business. But shame on Carr for not proving that the triCityNews serves its community well _» Does triCityNews produce news, or just ad space? | The Journalism Iconoclast_ (http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/12/23/does-tricitynews-produce-news-or-just-ad-space/) _http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/12/23/does-tricitynews-produce-news-or- just-ad-space/_ (http://patthorntonfiles.com/blog/2008/12/23/does-tricitynews-produce-news-or-just-ad-space/) **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN - All Paper, No News
WOW! Thanks for the link! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: http://tinyurl.com/7uc4wb On Dec 23, 2008, at 3:47 PM, dfsavgny wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: As I said, the Pennysaver. Is that just a NY term? I'll answer my own question. It is not a NJ thing. There appears to be no NJ Pennysaver. Pennysavers are coupon periodicals (not newspapers) for specific communities. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew
I don't have a link, but Google alternative newspapers. I found tons of alternatives this way and subscribe to several, not available in this area, (local and free), to the areas they're printed in. Most are filled with ads, like TCN in their paper form, but fun to read. The Village Voice is also online! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedri...@... wrote: Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: From Recovering Journalist: Jumping to the Wrong Conclusion (a professional POV) a Comment following it (Somewhat testy - lol): http://tinyurl.com/77zc3h Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Another POV: TCN Coverage Like the Dew
LOL! You are so crazy! Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Happy Kwanzaa and Happy New Year! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: We eschew the Web. A lack of links keeps our operating costs to a minimum and our Christmas party had only one attendee! Hysterical! Ahem! On Dec 23, 2008, at 8:28 AM, justifiedright wrote: Where's the link to the data that other small papers are doing fine? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AP $hould definitely be $hovel Ready
Mario, If Bush could hornswoggle $750 Billion, I don't see why Obama can't with a stroke of a pen, do the same to rescue the crumbling bridges, levees, roads, street signs so faded, they're unreadable, too! In my hometown, I always drive on I-10, because if you aren't a native, you don't know WHERE the hell you are on the local roads. The street signs haven't been replaced since the 40's! Asbury Park looks like a shiny beacon, compared to Louisiana! New Jersey LOOKS better and better, every day, which is why I CHOOSE to live here! I don't care what nobody says! There should be safeguards in place to protect the taxpayer, who ultimately PAYS for the mistakes of the elected! This whole country needs help! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: Hope we're shovel-ready enough to get some of those public works funds when they start to trickle down. The Pockmarked roads of New Jersey 8 min. video: http://tinyurl.com/8kvdoxOnline NewsHour | PBS or text: http://tinyurl.com/98wlga Infrastructure Spending May be Key to Boosting Economy | Online NewsHour | December 22, 2008 | PBS Excerpts: PAUL SOLMAN: The pockmarked roads of New Jersey, one small argument for why America desperately needs a massive infrastructure makeoverlike New Jersey's Pulaski Skyway, a three-and-a-half-mile elevated road connecting Newark and Jersey City built in the 1930s. BRIAN STRIZKI, state transportation engineer, New Jersey: This bridge is the same type of bridge that collapsed, the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis. GOV. JON CORZINE, D-N. J.: We have got the engineering plans. All we need is the money to -- and the trigger pull on go-ahead. PAUL SOLMAN: And it's not just transportation projects that are -- quote -- shovel-ready, says Kris Kolluri, New Jersey's former transportation boss, now head of school development. KRIS KOLLURI, executive officer, New Jersey Schools Development Authority: In New Jersey alone, the aggregate cost of fixing schools is close to $25 billion. ED YARDENI, economist: This is not the 1930s, where you had a lot of able-bodied men who were unemployed, and you could send to the Hoover Dam, and -- and build the thing. Here, we have got a lot of people in the services academy that, they're not shovel-ready. GOV. JON CORZINE: I don't buy that argument. It's true that somebody coming out of Wall Street probably isn't going to transfer to the long end of a shovel. On the other hand, it strikes me that there are -- with two-thirds reduction in the amount of homebuilding going on in the country, there are a lot of people available for these jobs. PAUL SOLMAN: Isn't this socialism? ROBERT FRANK: These are unusual circumstances. So, getting extra spending into the system really is the imperative right now. It's got to come from government, at rare moments like this. If the alternative is to have people sitting idle, then we're better off in the long run, even if we borrow every nickel to hire the people to do the work. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: TriCityNews featured by the NYT for ignoring the Web
I just loved this piece! It says so much about this country and how even people are disposable. Yet it seems that these young entrepreneurs have a Plan B! Hopefully with this new administration, job creation instead of soup kitchen lines and despair will cease! The outgoing administrations bottom line was me first and all else, you're on your own! The YOYO economy. Comparing this to MM and their insincere and phony way they connived with Asbury Partners to improve Asbury Park their own way, instead of the way it should have been done, to keep the historic Asbury Park. But no, they spoke out of one side of their mouth, while trying to turn AP into THEIR concept, which is no way, the way this City USED to look! Maybe the City will grow a backbone and call MM on promises unkept! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: In a message dated 12/22/2008 7:17:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, oakd...@... writes: from my world, yes it's interesting that they are profitable. I can think of then thousand websites that are proftable for one reason or another. === First link below indicates problems for some tech startups: Declining valuations are throwing a wrench into the gears of Silicon Valley's wealth machine. http://tinyurl.com/3fmpak Second one is great for the sense of humor some laid-off workers a have: At the American Society of Shit-Canned Media Elites Party... http://tinyurl.com/4jdbfy _A Wrench in Silicon Valley's Wealth Machine - BusinessWeek_ (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_52/b4114082618241.htm) _Hustling, Networking, Drinking and Staying Optimistic - Advertising Age - TalentWorks_ (http://adage.com/talentworks/article?article_id=133387) Happy Hanukkah **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: DJ, TCN Carr: # 9 Most Blogged (Touching Raw Nerves?)
MSNBC says that conservative talk show hosts as well as Republicans are irrelevant! To hear Patrick Buchanan say this, unnerved me but as unrelenting as Limbaugh and Hannity are, they keep excusing themselves and ignoring public opinion. Thank them to actually say that the economic turndown was started by a Democrat! Everybody but them know it was the Bushes plundering of the Treasury and tax breaks to their friends and support from voters who vote against their own best interest are to blame! The fight continues. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: Touched some raw nerves I guess. # 9 most blogged article _http://tinyurl.com/eutul_ (http://tinyurl.com/eutul) or _Most Referenced New York Times Articles from the Blog Community - The New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/gst/mostblogged.html) or _http://www.nytimes.com/gst/mostblogged.html_ (http://www.nytimes.com/gst/mostblogged.html) **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: YOU, That's Who!
Ditto! If you have LOVE, as you claim to profess, you should have been out trying to do a citizen's arrest against Cheney, the ultimate draft dodger, who when questioned about his NON service, said, I had better things to do or his buddy Dubya, coke-snorting, pot smoking, alcoholic, AWOL, party-boy, from the Air National Guard, so he didn't HAVE to do Viet-Nam, got a pass from his diplomat/past CIA-Director/past-POTUS, father! Yeah, the past 8 years of a Supreme Court TAKE-OVER, of what passed for a democracy! When you profess to protect the Constitution, then shred it, start 2 illegal wars, run up the largest economic deficit, that the Debt Clock, doean't have enough ZEROES for, what do you call that? Patriotism? Buy 3 tickets to Iraq, so that the three of you can stand trial for high crimes and misdeameanors, better yet, TREASON against the citizens of the United States, YOU! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote: Unlike you two I don't hate the country. Whenever you bash it or spew your anti-American views you will you will get a response. I am surpised such left wing crazies such as yourselves aren't out celebrating the winter solstice. Well it is a good thing the war will be over soon. What he is sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan this summer? Want to see the left protest their boy's decision to do that. Might need a draft that would be good to see what some of you sweet asses are really like. We are watching Bill Clinton's third term. No change here. From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@... To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:24:17 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts Mario, Thanks for standing up as usual! Misanthrope is too nice a word for the resident TROLL! So TROLL, about that 0ne-way ticket; cash it in and purchase a one-way ticket to IDIOTSVILLE, for YOURSELF, SCROOGE! --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, MarioAPNJ@ . wrote: More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining misanthropes posting here, always trying to poison the well. All the malice like that reminds me of Lee Atwater's words, a month before he died: My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what was missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood. ... Lots of other historical changes-of-heart, from George Wallace and Trent Lott to Ken Mehlman. I guess they all finally realized that Luke added to Men of Good Will to And on Earth, Peace In a message dated 12/20/2008 5:24:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tvnetdude2000@ ... writes: The unions are the reason Obama is in office you will see how much he throws thbeir way when he is in office. Don't expect any change he has all insiders in his administration. He will be a little lighter in the wallet Blago got caught selling his Senate seat no cut for him. There was always a lot of crime by those left behind becauee they are owed, they are entitled. This is true even when the economy is good. Haven't read anything on this board about those that were left behind that were mugging people in AP during the black out. The greedy were stung by Madoff. He will be sorry the people he crossed will kill him. You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English and can complete a sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in there. The same is true of Colin Powell neither of which you can hold a candle. Maybe Bush should have selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented the US much better. Maybe Jesse Jackson Jr could have bought the seat like he tried to do in Chicago. Yes indeed people elected Obama because of his vast experience after all he was a communite organizer. All I can say is I hope some of you, or your families, cross paths with the people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing you will see before the end. America is all about money. Work on getting some instead of whining about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? Blacks are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way ticket is still here waiting. How about Africa? They don't care if you are black there they will kill you anyway. Still hating the country. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dpicid= aolcom40vanity ncid=emlcntaolco m0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email
[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you, that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/states rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I call myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote: Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You really have to get out of AP more this is not the real world. If a person subbscribes to your leftist views they can say and charge whatever they choose and you look the other way.Well I don't. The likes of sharon can't polish Powell or Rice's shoes. If blacks speak that way they speak that way. You choose to look the other way you do that. Did you ever correct a kid that spoke or wrote that way? Probably not. Not politically correct! These aren't ESL students we are talking about here. Weren't there race riots 40 years ago? What they hell are you talking about? More Thorazine for my friend here! From: Mario marioa...@... To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:26:24 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts In a message dated 12/21/2008 4:23:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: Well Mario you can deal with reality or pretend there is a yellow brick road. Your solution is humbug to reality and continue to pretend things are the way they were more than 40 years ago. They are not nor will they ever be again. = = = Well, Mike, I just looked out the window, and that good ol' Scottish black tar Macadam road is still there. I'm also thankful that things are not as they were 40+ years ago when the yellow bile of your sentiments was more common. I'm referring specifically to your comments such as these: You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English and can complete a sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in thereMaybe Bush should have selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented the US much betterAll I can say is I hope some of you, or your families, cross paths with the people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing you will see before the end money. Work on getting some instead of whining about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? Blacks are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way ticket is still here waiting. How about Africa? The reality is that most of the country is of Good Will and has moved closer to the ideals we've always professed than we were 40+ years ago. Join us. = _ _ From: marioa...@aol. com marioa...@aol. com To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:01:40 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Humbug to such posts More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining misanthropes posting here, always trying to poison the well. All the malice like that reminds me of Lee Atwater's words, a month before he died: My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what was missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood. ... Lots of other historical changes-of-heart, from George Wallace and Trent Lott to Ken Mehlman. I guess they all finally realized that Luke added to Men of Good Will to And on Earth, Peace In a message dated 12/20/2008 5:24:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tvnetdude2000@ yahoo.com writes: The unions are the reason Obama is in office you will see how much he throws thbeir way when he is in office. Don't expect any change he has all insiders in his administration. He will be a little lighter in the wallet Blago got caught selling his Senate seat no cut for him. There was always a lot of crime by those left behind becauee they are owed, they are entitled. This is true even when the economy is good. Haven't read anything on this board about those that were left behind that were mugging people in AP during the black out. The greedy were stung by Madoff. He will be sorry the people he crossed will kill him. You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English and can complete a sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in there. The same is true of Colin Powell neither of which you can hold a candle. Maybe Bush should have selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented the US much better. Maybe Jesse Jackson Jr could have bought the seat like he tried to do in Chicago. Yes indeed people elected Obama because of his vast experience after all he was a communite
[AsburyPark] Re: TriCityNews featured by the NYT for ignoring the Web
To TCN: If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Great piece and they are PRO-Asbury Park! Great post, Mario. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: link was broken. Try this one _http://tinyurl.com/a5ddj4_ (http://tinyurl.com/a5ddj4) In a message dated 12/22/2008 3:21:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marioa...@... writes: TCN Dan starting to get some attention, pro and con, around the web: **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Merry Holidays
I wish for you, the same! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: Wishing you all a joyous new year. Finding this site was like a gift to me. Two guys traveled the world collecting music and wisdom which they have documented on a cd and dvd. Lots of clips on the site and great world music on the home site. http://www.whataboutme.tv/#home Gabrielle Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to such posts
Mario, Thanks for standing up as usual! Misanthrope is too nice a word for the resident TROLL! So TROLL, about that 0ne-way ticket; cash it in and purchase a one-way ticket to IDIOTSVILLE, for YOURSELF, SCROOGE! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: More malevolent Humbug (see below) from one of the few remaining misanthropes posting here, always trying to poison the well. All the malice like that reminds me of Lee Atwater's words, a month before he died: My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what was missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood Lots of other historical changes-of-heart, from George Wallace and Trent Lott to Ken Mehlman. I guess they all finally realized that Luke added to Men of Good Will to And on Earth, Peace In a message dated 12/20/2008 5:24:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tvnetdude2...@... writes: The unions are the reason Obama is in office you will see how much he throws thbeir way when he is in office. Don't expect any change he has all insiders in his administration. He will be a little lighter in the wallet Blago got caught selling his Senate seat no cut for him. There was always a lot of crime by those left behind becauee they are owed, they are entitled. This is true even when the economy is good. Haven't read anything on this board about those that were left behind that were mugging people in AP during the black out. The greedy were stung by Madoff. He will be sorry the people he crossed will kill him. You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English and can complete a sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in there. The same is true of Colin Powell neither of which you can hold a candle. Maybe Bush should have selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented the US much better. Maybe Jesse Jackson Jr could have bought the seat like he tried to do in Chicago. Yes indeed people elected Obama because of his vast experience after all he was a communite organizer. All I can say is I hope some of you, or your families, cross paths with the people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing you will see before the end. America is all about money. Work on getting some instead of whining about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? Blacks are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way ticket is still here waiting. How about Africa? They don't care if you are black there they will kill you anyway. Still hating the country. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AC - Asbury Park Parallels
Nice thought, but the thing about living here, is WE have to worry, since a 13M deficit, will result in loss of some services. I just hate it, when someone posts that we shouldn't worry about how Asbury Park looks, just fiddle while Rome burns, huh? If you don't live here, please keep your cheeky little criticism to yourself! If you want to visit, just visit and don't come down or up here, with a pen and pad, to note what you don't like about this town. It's bad enough, when we ourselves KNOW what SHOULD have been done, was illegal to have been done, taking liberties with property you DON'T own, just because you developed a portion of the City. Nobody elected YOU, Mr. Developer, so please heed the laws like everybody else! Some of us DO frequent the restaurants, shops and what have you, but there are those who just can't afford the high priced drinks and what passes for food! I'm not one of them, but I sometimes feel like I'm being fleeced at the door, so I go elsewhere! A woman's perogative. Some of you snotty nosed, corporate types, won't be able to afford it either when you retire! No, I don't go to those early bird senior places, yet! I found myself in a modest priced restaurant one day and the waitress asked , do you want the senior special? I looked puzzled at my spouse, wondering what the waitress was talking about, then she realized, I didn't either and explained that on Wednesday, Seniors get a discount! Yep, it was Wednesday and I didn't know these deals existed! I began paying attention in restaurants since my hair IS gray! I hadn't really thought of myself as a Senior until that moment. Oh well! Anyway, Asbury Park USED to be affordable to any income. It no longer is, so for those of us who have 10 plus years invested in calling this place, home, I hope you see the point I'm making. If AP keeps pricing out long-timers, the economy will force many of us to leave and then you bottomless pits of money can have the place, to yourself! So what happened to the 1st Ave. Pavilion, that USED to be the Senior Center? Inquiring minds want to know! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: And if you can't afford any art, try some coffee at Asbury Park Roastery. Great variety of gift-boxed items too. _http://asburyparkroastery.com/_ (http://asburyparkroastery.com/) In a message dated 12/19/2008 10:48:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mark07...@... writes: Yes, we are all having fun Merry Christmas and stop worrying Go buy some art and have fun. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap newbeetoap@ wrote: So..., Have you asked any questions lately? Or are you still too busy just having fun and not caring about timetables? **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Bah! Humbug
No, I don't like her because she is phony and superficial. While citizens in New Orleans were looting the stores for bread and water, this high paid woman, was watching Spam-A-Lot on Broadway, wearing her $1000 dollar pair of shoes! SHE has the consumer fetish that Gabrielle speaks about! Her BOSS, was flying over New Orleans, using Air Force One, as his taxi! You? You don't fit in to Bush's world either! He needs SCROOGES/STOOGES, take your pick, to keep us at each others' throats! It's working! There were no reports of looting, as you put it, during the black-out! Oh, was it you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote: The unions are the reason Obama is in office you will see how much he throws thbeir way when he is in office. Don't expect any change he has all insiders in his administration. He will be a little lighter in the wallet Blago got caught selling his Senate seat no cut for him. There was always a lot of crime by those left behind becauee they are owed, they are entitled. This is true even when the economy is good. Haven't read anything on this board about those that were left behind that were mugging people in AP during the black out. The greedy were stung by Madoff. He will be sorry the people he crossed will kill him. You don't like Condi Rice because she can speak English and can complete a sentence without throwing an Ax or a duh in there. The same is true of Colin Powell neither of which you can hold a candle. Maybe Bush should have selected Fat Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they would have represented the US much better. Maybe Jesse Jackson Jr could have bought the seat like he tried to do in Chicago. Yes indeed people elected Obama because of his vast experience after all he was a communite organizer. All I can say is I hope some of you, or your families, cross paths with the people that are released from Gitmo. Probably the last thing you will see before the end. America is all about money. Work on getting some instead of whining about it. When Obama is president who will you complain about? Blacks are the only minority in the country just ask them. That one way ticket is still here waiting. How about Africa? They don't care if you are black there they will kill you anyway. Still hating the country. From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@... To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 5:19:50 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: AC - Asbury Park Parallels Staggering wealth for only a few, glamorized constantly on TV and the internet. There's a LOT of crime, committed by those who feel left behind! Those of us who aren't overtaken by the false images are the conscience of a country and government run amok, which is why Obama won the election. The American people aren't asleep because we voted with our feet. As far as extraordinary thinking, thank Bush for thinking that he can run a country on less taxes for the rich, okay? That's why 750 Billion was given away to Wall St. and the industry that could use some help was told to go to hell! Bush is still running amok, giving part of the 750B to the auto industry! All of the positions HE gave, were to his friends who had NO expertise for the agencies they were hired to run! Ask Condi Rice! She can play a MEAN piano, but has NO expertise in the State Department! She's too busy proving that she's worthy! Same for the singing Attorney General from Missouri, who placed drapes over statues he found to be racy in the Halls of Justice, or the short Alberto Gonzalez who thought it to be perfectly normal to torture prisoners at Abu Graib and Gitmo! No dear, Bush executed a smooth coup d'etat, when he took office, thanks to his father, the former head of the CIA and the Carlyle Group, okay? He couldn't do it for himself, but he sure gave Junior what he wanted, so appearances aren't what they seem. The Bushes set about to destroy any semblance of a democracy here and in the Middle East, by occupying countries they deemed to be THEIR Manifest Destiny! It's what entitlement is all about! If you think viewing porn on the internet, substitutes the real thing, I have a bridge I want to sell you! You're right about one thing, America IS all about money! --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ ... wrote: what's real is rising. you gotta remember we live in a county of staggering wealth. as long as people have their hundred grand coming in, they aren't gonna question anything. we aren't exactly swimming in a community pool of extraordinary thinking. pretty mainstream TV thinking going on here. work, spawn, consume and compare is pretty much the extent of most peoples' existence. --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Isn't this a symptom of a cultures reliance on a consumer mentality? America is all about money
[AsburyPark] Re: Community Food Bank Needs Food
You watch too much TV! Hair shirt, huh? I've bought toys for Blue Star Mothers, Toys, for Toys for Tots, donated money at the checkout of Shop-Rite, donated canned goods for a food drive, hell, when do I get anything? Yeah, I know, Tis the season to be jolly and all that, so I bought myself, 2 Whitman's Samplers! 1 for guests and 1 for ME! A box of candy with directions, so you get to eat the ones YOU want! I've sent out 4-25 card boxes of Christmas cards! You happy now, Post Office? Watched practically EVERY Christmas Movie EVER made, so I could cry into fancy Kleenexes! Going across the street to watch cute kids do a Christmas Play, next week, (bringing Kleenex to that, too)! I even have a cute female MOOSE in a Sleigh! Thank you, Sarah Palin! Going to cuddle up in my Jammies on Christmas Eve, with a full shot of Southern Comfort in a cup of egg-nog and watch Midnight Mass! Fa-La-La-Lah, La La La Lah! So there! Merry Christmas, everybody! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, marioa...@... wrote: In a message dated 12/15/2008 10:33:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, oakd...@... writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: I just spoke with Laurie at the Foodbank of Monmouth and Ocean She concurred with the Wegmans' executives I spoke with last year: Year-round appeals tend to result in compassion fatigue, and people then tend to ignore the appeals. I thought Wegs was y round. I'll say ok to a $1 or more at checkout based on guilt. - if you buy candy, ice cream or soda (things you really don't need...) We tip more for booze and lousy food. Imagine tipping the food bank 15% of your food order. === Wegs' has posted that their donate-at-checkout service ends around 12/22. I had a go-around with them last year, and vented about it here. But now FoodBank's Laurie has confirmed the compassion fatigue syndrome that Wegs mentioned back then. Everything is a syndrome these days. Some seem bogus to me, like Restless Leg Syndrome which sounds like a drug company marketing invention. But I can identify with compassion fatigue; I first experienced it thanks to Sally Struthers' appeals on late night TV. Now, thanks to Wiki, I learn that I was not alone: The ironic disparity between her activism for starving children and her own weight gain was parodied in South Park's Starvin' Marvin episodes. You're right about the guilt thing about unnecessary purchases, so I figure the sting of pointing to the $5 bar code is more humane and a technological improvement over the pain of self-flagellation or the discomfort in wearing a hair shirt in Press Plaza. It's also more effective than saying three Hail Marys.;-) **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Star Ledger: Asbury Park revival project still far from finished
Who says we're asleep? 1st go 'round with redevelopment back in the mid 80's went nowhere, with Carabetta declaring bankruptcy, tying the City up with an entanglement that only Judge Mollen of the Mollen Commission could UN-tangle by the late 90's! The power machine that ran Asbury Park into the ground, was still at work, until a grassroots group called Asbury United stepped up to the plate, electing its' 2nd Black Mayor. The losing ticket not satisfied with what happened, compiled a report from the Homeowners' group, gave it to the FBI, resulting in the ousting of the Mayor and eventually all of the council members that were elected in 1996, through corruption, including Terry Weldon, the City Manager/Mayor of Ocean Twp. He was awarded a pension for being arrested! Go figure! In came 5 who cared or not, contracting with Asbury Partners, who sub contracted with Madison Marquette, who has been the mover and shaker, who has done anything so far, but not living up to the original agreement or resulting in anything to the City for what it gave up! Now, you have MM interpreting what they can/can't do, altering the landscape, in their favor, irregardless what the City thought was going to be a feasible plan agreeable, to the City finally having some tax ratables on the books, but with so much unfinished and haphazardly construction unfinished, the old C-8 became the Esperanza or C-8-II! Still with me?I'm not an architect, politician, real estate mogul or any of the people, that move and shake Asbury! Just a resident, citizen and taxpayer! I just have an opinion! Opinions are like A$$-holes! Everybody has one! Since you were honest enough to voice your displeasure as to why AP hasn't moved forward, I just gave my opinion, unvarnished as it is. I also think MM has tried to make an honest attempt to do something! Remember, I moved to NJ 2 months after the 1970 riot. It was not pretty, but the West Side where most of the destruction took place wasn't and still isn't what it should be. Kinda like New Orleans after Katrina, only AP has been wallowing in this shame, almost 40 years! Those residents who were here, before, during and after me, really know the score. Asbury Park is still one of the most beautiful and historical areas, I've ever seen and I've seen many, so this is just my 2 cents. Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Happy Kwanzaa or whatever you celebrate! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap newbeet...@... wrote: So its not just me that notices things are amiss... Like I said before... doing some reasearch in various media sources gives a different picture from the all is well view of some AP locals. I'm surprised that the talk about the money/deficit/budget went nowhere. Well not really... guess everyone is too busy 'having fun' to worry about a bankrupt AP (Yes that was a 'dig' - folks down there better wake up) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifernjca@ wrote: Asbury Park revival project still far from finished by MaryAnn Spoto/The Star-Ledger Tuesday December 09, 2008, 6:28 PM http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/asbury_park_revival_project_s t.html A year ago, construction ground to a halt on luxury oceanfront condominiums in Asbury Park that had promised to usher in a revival of a city devastated by race riots, political corruption and economic woes. A harbinger of the national real estate disaster that was to come, the Esperanza should have been near completion today, but instead the same three stories stand bleakly against the backdrop of a beachfront awaiting tourists. The poured-concrete foundation hasn't changed since Hoboken-based Metro Homes gave the stop-work order a year ago Sunday, but the company's president insists he is pressing on with plans for a scaled- down version of the high rise. He said work could resume by next summer. Our project is far from dead, said Metro Homes president Dean Geibel. We're basically creating a whole new building. Held hostage for two decades by ups and downs of the housing market, the city is trying to buck current economic trends and continues to rebuild around the building that takes its name from the Spanish word for hope. Surprisingly enough, we're still bringing business into Asbury Park, said Tom Gilmour, director of commerce for the city. A lot of people who wanted to come here got turned off by the high prices and are back. Gilmour said Asbury Park has had 17 new storefronts, including seven new restaurants, open on the boardwalk since May. Another seven businesses opened downtown during that same time. A year ago, retail space in the city's downtown was slightly less than half full. Now it's about 60 percent occupied, he estimated. Last year, the boardwalk had a nearly 70 percent vacancy rate. Now it's maxed out, Gilmour said.
[AsburyPark] The Lights are back on!
From 6:15 PM until 9:45, AP and surrounding neighborhoods were without power. Thanks for calling Glenn! I had my shortwave radio tuned to New Jersey 101.5, keeping up with the reports, the whirl of helicopters flying overhead, squad cars screaming up and down the street, scaring the BeJesus out of everyone, etc. Anyway, it appears we're out of danger! Reports of a transformer blowing up in Neptune, is what did it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Meet on First Saturday
Would love to meet anyone, but on this date, I'll be in Somerset, NJ at a luncheon, given on the 1st Saturday of every year, by the AL Auxiliary. Served as Monmouth County Pres., 2 years, then at 4, I'll be at a Red Hat Party. Maybe another time. So sorry. I love meeting people, especially someone like you! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fireworks start at 8 p.m. Anybody who wants to meet and put a face to the names come on over to Market in the Middle at 5 p.m. RSVP so I'm not sitting there by my lonesome. If you're shy you can email me privately jennifernjca at yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: BeachCam Status
OOps! Asbury Steve sent me the link and I sent it to you! Thanks anyway! I watch all day, when I can. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to post for many hours the great news that the BeachCam has been operational since 3:20pm today. The camera has been re-aligned and now has a terrific view. It may well be a new camera. I will not post the URL to the camera in this message as I suspect that the URL is the reason that my posts are not making it to the group. Go to the City's webpage and click on City Cams, then BeachCam (you may have to hold you Ctrl key down if you have a pop-up blocker on a PC) Enjoy - and thanks for that cam! Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: The BeachCam Status for November 2008 are in - and it's not pretty. See the graph here: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/3070428019_4a06ea1001_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/3070428019_4a06ea1001_o.jpg My intent is not really to be critical, if I can help to get that camera operational and reliable - I am willing! Glenn = Your negativity is not welcome here, if you have nothing good to say get out. You don't even live here and your post insults everyone who is optimistic about Asbury Park. I really enjoy that camera, its fun, if you can't just enjoy it the way it is don't look at it. Visitors keep coming to it and no one else is complaining. LOL :-) Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Gannett Co. Inc. has eliminated 206 positions
The TICKET is for YOU! Get a life! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't believe it you have your black president and you still hate America. One free, one-way, airline ticket out of the country with your name on it for the asking. Someone still holding you down? From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 10:07:57 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Gannett Co. Inc. has eliminated 206 positions Something struck me as odd; calling Howard Zinn an American hater! WHAT? As though disagreeing with this fascist government, hating America? What happened to the First Amendment? I'm so glad that my generation QUESTIONS authority, small a! Most times the authority you disagree with is one, corrupt, two, hiding the truth or three, in bed with someone! Capice? Just open the Press and you'll either read that someone in the Bush Administration is hiding something, committed a crime/treason/ torture/wire- taps/conspiracy, etc. Name your situation, it's all there! Then read about corrupt NJ politicians, who not only abound here in Monmouth County, but the other 20 counties as well! I rest my case! Good piece Mario. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, MarioAPNJ@ . wrote: I agree, John. And I could go on about the need for serious professional journalism and a citizenry with enough media literacy to sort through all media including bloggers. Instead I posted my subjective thoughts about some local blogging to the politics group here: http://tinyurl. com/5oukwo In a message dated 12/3/2008 9:19:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jerseyshorejohn@ ... writes: Yes! Let's just have everyone in an information ghetto, where they only read what they want to hear by people who already agree with them! Perfect! On Dec 3, 2008, at 8:46 AM, justifiedright wrote: Yet triCityNews has just passed the 70 page mark. Better business model - better journalism model. The future of journalism is journalists telling you upfront what their political affiliations are. It's just more trustworthy. The fastest growing news delivery format in America is partisan blogs. The old format of make-believe objectivity is dying. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dpicid= aolcom40vanity ncid=emlcntaolco m0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: AP playing for Championship
Just a few words in defense of liberal whites, I live on the East Side, in a high rise with people of every color, nationality and profession. There are even weekenders from New York who maintain a weekend apartment here. The Thurgood Marshall school has all colors too, whites even! Lots of them, although the school is predomonantly Latin American! Don't know if they're Mexican, Honduran, Columbian or what, but a lot of Latinos. Blacks, whites and puerto ricans are the minority here. I've donated to Asbury Park Pop Warner, but have yet to view a game. Over 60 and arthritic, is why. I can't weather the cold like I did in my 20's. I defend anyone right to not attend for the reason stated and many in this group WORK while the games are being played. It's admirable that you and your family attend, but don't character assassinate the group because they're not attending. Knowing me, I'd probably wind up at Jersey Shore Medical with pneumonia, which I've had bouts with for the past 3 years. It's no joke, so I don't attend mainly for that reason. You tend to paint us with a broad brush, but most of us are past the breeding stage and no longer have small children, but some of us have no kids at all and it's unfair to accuse us of promoting segregation. Incidentally, I sip lattes, but where I come from it's part of my culture! Cheers! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/5/2008 4:05:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario drive down DeWitt Avenue Saturday night and take note of the color of the faces. Then go Downtown and take note of the color of the faces. Asbury Park may have diversity but it sure as hell doesn't have integration. But you just tell yourself whatever you need to, so that you feel better about yourself. You libs are good at that. Segregation is the issue that's firing me up lately. So fuck off, latte sipping liberal in denial ... == You're giving Christianity a bad name. Latte-sipping liberal? You're a font of memes. I have neighbors of color on both sides of my home, my block is a model of diversity, and it does feel good. And your neighbors? Does Howell fire you up? Just a rhetorical question. No need to play Whack-a-Mole with your off-the-wall red herrings. No latte for me. But I will go make a pot of all-American Maxwell House (now diversified with 100% Aribica). Felices Fiestas **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One of Madison Marquette's Parent Fund's Funders
Very perceptive Maureen. Didn't know that. S. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't look now, but one of the funds Anselm of Madison Marquette told me is a big investor in Capital Guidance, which owns MM, now faces billions in losses, according to today's Wall St. Journal. See 'Alpha' Bets Turn Sour. Apparently, PERS, the Pennsylvania State Employees Retirement System used a strategy called, portable alpha to finance investments of $9.2 billion in hedge-funds. Now PERS could be forced to make cash payments of $2.5 billion or more to Wall St. trading partners, according to the Journal. Last month Anselm and I argued over whether Capital Guidance is a hedge fund or not. At that time I was concerned that MM's investments here could be in trouble if Capital Guidance were a hedge fund and found its credit lines had dried up, since hedge funds are highly leveraged. Anselm insists Capital Guidance isn't a hedge fund. But the PERS situation is another matter. PERS may have to liquidate some of its investments to shore up its losses. Let's hope Capital Guidance has them locked in for couple of years. Anyone want ot venture forth on this one? Maureen Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stepping Down from City Council
WONDERFUL! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Yes I recall that's how Ed got in. I'm not sure what the law says with respect to timing though. Just wondering aloud, I'm curious whether they can appoint if the vacancy occurs within a certain amount of time before an election. I'll check it out. I'm available. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stepping Down from City Council
Very poetic! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what I found out: Because AP is non-partisan, the City Council members have 30 days from the resignation to fill the seat. If they don't fill the seat, it stays vacant until May's election. If AP was a partisan town, the political party would put up 3 names for the council to choose from. If the council didn't act in 30 days, the party could fill the seat from the 3 names. So it will be up to Kevin, Jimmy, John, Ed to determine if they want to fill the seat or leave it vacant. I say fill it to the rim with Amy Quinn or Michael Brim. How's that for poetry! Or how about: Time to sail with Paul Vail. Or maybe: Here we go with Mario! Or: The future is heaven with Maureen Nevin! Who are you folks interested in seeing take that seat? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..
You are Off the Hook! LOL! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/2/2008 2:20:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote:... How about a compromise of these two perspectives? From the monologues in one of my favorite films: [addressing the camera] There's an old joke - um... two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort, and one of 'em says, Boy, the food at this place is really terrible. The other one says, Yeah, I know; and such small portions. Well, that's essentially how I feel about life - full of loneliness, and misery, and suffering, and unhappiness, and it's all over much too quickly. And this I thought of that old joke, y'know, the, this... this guy goes to a psychiatrist and says, Doc, uh, my brother's crazy; he thinks he's a chicken. And, uh, the doctor says, Well, why don't you turn him in? The guy says, I would, but I need the eggs. Well, I guess that's pretty much now how I feel...; y'know, they're totally irrational, and crazy, and absurd, and... but, uh, I guess we keep goin' through it because, uh, most of us... need the eggs. Scheduled for a rerun this weekend: http://tinyurl.com/6pk9gr Happy Holidays, Mario **Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40v anityncid=emlcntaolcom0002) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION?
Food for thought! Good thought, too! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fun with numbers. Read this article from Chicago. Link at the end, Then call me. I'm playing the lottery tonight. Chicago has the same problem Asbury has. But AP doesn't have Oprah Obama nor Hillary - nor the Cubs. How much ARE they worth. Here's how you look at it and I'm sure Dan can add to it. A parking space is land. That is real estate. Land in a valued location is worth money. Land that can generate money is worth MORE money. http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN0227950220081202 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Gannett Co. Inc. has eliminated 206 positions
Something struck me as odd; calling Howard Zinn an American hater! WHAT? As though disagreeing with this fascist government, hating America? What happened to the First Amendment? I'm so glad that my generation QUESTIONS authority, small a! Most times the authority you disagree with is one, corrupt, two, hiding the truth or three, in bed with someone! Capice? Just open the Press and you'll either read that someone in the Bush Administration is hiding something, committed a crime/treason/torture/wire-taps/conspiracy, etc. Name your situation, it's all there! Then read about corrupt NJ politicians, who not only abound here in Monmouth County, but the other 20 counties as well! I rest my case! Good piece Mario. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, John. And I could go on about the need for serious professional journalism and a citizenry with enough media literacy to sort through all media including bloggers. Instead I posted my subjective thoughts about some local blogging to the politics group here: http://tinyurl.com/5oukwo In a message dated 12/3/2008 9:19:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes! Let's just have everyone in an information ghetto, where they only read what they want to hear by people who already agree with them! Perfect! On Dec 3, 2008, at 8:46 AM, justifiedright wrote: Yet triCityNews has just passed the 70 page mark. Better business model - better journalism model. The future of journalism is journalists telling you upfront what their political affiliations are. It's just more trustworthy. The fastest growing news delivery format in America is partisan blogs. The old format of make-believe objectivity is dying. **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Any thoughts of selling the rights to
I agree! If you meter the oceanfront, meter ALL of the commercial downtown, like it used to be! Asbury Park, is BACK and the City is missing out on revenue, experiencing a budget shortfall and this is one way of alleviating the debt. What are the City fathers and the Council doing? Resting on their elbows? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Future parking revenues? As in the cases I mentioned yesterday, some munis are selling (leasing) the rights to future parking revenues. Looks like the going rate is about 25,000 per spot for a 75 year period. Additional kickers are bumps for a share of overtime fines. So if AP had 1200 spaces along the ocean, that would amount to about $37 millon paid upfront The parking spaces on the street are an asset. When the esperana was being sold, they were giving one spot. Additional spot was I think about $30k. I think dan came up with an appraisers method of justifying that cost. So how about it - should the city look into leasing the rights to parking in the city? Oceanfront spots higher then downtown and main (if it all).. Be nice not to see employees and owners of the businesses not taking up the ocean ave spots.. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Thick-Skinned in Asbury Park?
WE? I want to Barf! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thought I was in for a feel-good read. Until I came across the reference to Asbury Park as a town of losers. Guess I'm not thick-skinned. Feel free to educate this guy via the comment box or letters link. Anyone get what he means by horizontally inclined? = From Duke University's The Sandbox - Recess at http://tinyurl.com/6m3ccxPosted: 12/4/08 We New Jerseyans have thick skin about most offenses to the Garden State. (Just to be clear: It doesn't smell like garbage, I don't find it ironic that our state nickname invokes beauty and if New Jersey is the armpit of America, our glob of a country sure is horizontally inclined.) We'll tolerate most barbs, but don't you dare demean Bruce Springsteen, because The Boss is ours. He's stitched himself into the fabric of New Jersey, and by this point he's as culturally ingrained as diners, Tony Soprano and the neon lights on the boardwalk's tilt-a-whirls down the shore. It doesn't matter that Springsteen became rock and roll's future by yearning to leave New Jersey and find himself on the open road, to quit the boardwalk scene and pull out of a town full of losers, because even though he left... well, he never really did. He still plays rollicking shows in Giants Stadium on every tour and, with the E Street Band, awes crowds with rumbling sets that include the same hits from those iconic 1970s albums. The state's true poet laureate is now a revered social critic, and his music reflects his age and political activism-and from a selfish standpoint, it's simply not as fun to blast the new stuff and sing along even though you can't hear your own voice, because it's not that type of music anymore. There are no more Thunder Roads for Springsteen to find, only 41 shots for him to riff on. Except, that is, for about one month every year, when radio stations hide Born in the U.S.A. or The Rising and pull out a dusty track that hasn't been played in 11 months. Roy Bittan starts by tickling the piano to conjure bells, and the crowd roars in hysterical approval. Clarence Clemons does his best impersonation of Santa Claus and then, beautifully, Springsteen comes in with the simple words we've all memorized on the notes we all know are coming, yet somehow feel fresh every year: You better watch out/You better not cry/Better not pout/I'm telling you why. Then it's the crowd's turn, a reincarnation of the call-and-response Springsteen uses in all of his live shows now. It doesn't matter if you're in the car alone or if you're surrounded by thousands at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park; you yell, Santa Claus is coming to town! as loud, as hoarsely and with as much holiday fervor as you can. Max Weinberg ratchets up the percussion, Miami Steve croons in the background, Clarence solos on the sax-it's familiar, but invigorating. It's the best Christmas song of all time, because it captures the spirit of the holiday season. Find the bells and let loose. Embrace the company of others. And for goodness sake, fuhgeddabout the Jersey sneer, and be thankful the state is, indeed, not a glorified parking lot. We have, after all, given even the naughtiest of you the gift of Springsteen. = Happy Thankshallowistmas **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0010) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: redevelopement... college paper
You are so smart! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: There are many college students who have written on that same topic over the years. I'd love to see them all together some day. Would be fun to compare and contrast their thoughts. Let's sponsor a symposium. Put together a panel. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: redevelopement... college paper
I think Werner is the perfect source. Unless I read it in the newspaper or see it here, I had generally lost interest until this past Spring and summer and to my surprise, I saw spruced up improvements, over all, which is not to say, improvements haven't been made. I didn't take into account infrastructure improvements like plumbing, retooling, refitting, etc. The new shops are okay, but this is not the East Village, although, it reminds me of it. Cookman Ave. is where I've seen the MOST improvements. The small businesses and restaurants are the draw for me. I'm past the age of wanting to blow glass, buy overpriced tees and designer clothes that are just labels, but for the young, Label wearing is still THE thing! Yep! Werner, Hinge and Mario are the best sources IMHO. Although there are other female posters who know, but don't post that often, so the aforementioned 3, including Asbury Cheech would be the best sources. They attend those council meetings, which I now refuse to attend. I swear, if I showed up, they'd start whispering that a conspiracy is in the making! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jandlinap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi.. One of my friends is writing a paper at NYU about the redev. of asbur park...if anyone can email him and help with some information..would be appreciated.. his email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Jeffrey Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Happy Turkey Day..
Now THAT, was an AWESOME post! In a nutshell, you've put a positive spin, on the reality that is Asbury Park! The Pop Warner Pee-Wee's won their championship game and are on their way to Florida! Asbury Park's Varsity Football's unbeaten record is no more! They lost to Neptune, 6-0 Thanksgiving day! So Neptune now owns the bragging rights, for a year! My Grandson is a senior at Neptune High School and it was his last game! What an ending! My adult children, all graduates of Neptune said it looked like 10,000 people were there! I didn't attend the game this year, as I got a late start, making pies for friends, for 2 days! It smells like cinnamon heaven, in here! Anyway, I am a great admirer of Werner and you, Glenn! I live here, but you are half of the reason, I indulge in visiting the boardwalk! Being a consummate shore bird, after Labor Day, I would assume that the sidewalks would roll up, like they do in neighboring Ocean Grove, Avon, Bradley Beach and Belmar. That's what happens there, but MM has expanded Asbury Park into a year round venue. I would think you have to dress like you're in Alaska to take in the boardwalk, this time of the year. It's been brutally cold, for the last 2 weeks and it rained all day today and snowed in Sussex County, (in the mountains). I mean, here, those with pets walk their dogs, ride bikes and the morning walkers are usually down there. Me? I am deep into Christmas decorating and O-D-ing on turkey leftovers! It's time for egg-nog, hot chocolate and Southern Comfort! I've decorated 2 trees, put out my miniature village, complete with people and a Jazz Band! I passed Mario's house and it looks like a post card, it's so pretty and festive! I wanted to sing Silver Bells and We Need a Little Christmas, Right this Very Minute, I felt so heartened! No, you youngsters can go down to Convention Hall! I'm keeping my old ass home! If you young people can brave the cold, I say come on down! It's beautiful in Asbury Park at Christmas time. You can see stately, tasteful decorations and you can see some very busy, obnoxious ones, too! It gives me a good laugh, but you have to give it to the people who decorate like there's no tomorrow! The Press put out a very beautiful publication on what's happening down here for the holidays. It's a keeper! Glenn, everybody here in Asbury Park loves you to death! You, the puppy and the duck! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi New Beetoap, I have been compared with you by at least one person in this group and I feel the need to share with your observations. - We are both relatively new to AP - Neither of us lives within the City of AP. - We both make occasional visits (I suspect that I visit more often than you do, I may be wrong.) Here is my story: I visited AP for the first time in 1999. After a nearly 4 hour trip to Six Flags and dealing with a rainy day, I called a former co- worker from Morristown and asked if there was ANYTHING else to do in the area. I was encouraged to visit Paradise in Asbury Park. I had never heard of Asbury Park, NJ. I had three friends with me and I followed the directions precisely (no GPS's back then.) My friends were very vocal as we drove east on Asbury Avenue: What is this, Bosnia?; There are better places in Sarajevo. I parked the car and we all stared at Paradise. It was an Oasis in a sea of crap. That was 1999. I stepped out of my car onto a TILED parking lot knowing NOTHING about A.P., I did not realize that I was standing on the former floor tile of the Plaza Hotel. I actually thought that the parking lot had been tiled. THEN, I saw The Palace. It scared the crap out of me in the dark! Yes, Paradise was terrific, but I could not get the rest of A.P. out of my mind. I have spent the last 8 years learning as much as I can about the former Jewel of the Jersey Shore. I agree with you, there have been many un-truths in advertising. Hell, if Kellogg's changes the picture on the box of Cornflakes, they can legally call the product New and Improved! Sure, dates have been missed, there are always obstacles to overcome and it all takes time. I am hoping that you realize that when you are critical of Asbury Park - specifically in this Yahoo Group that you are not being critical of the Development Team or the City - you are being critical of the residents and the fans of Asbury Park. The majority of the residents of Asbury Park, until very recently, lived in a city which was spiraling into decline. When you post here and challenge the milestones (I agree that they are late in coming), you are in a way degrading the hope of a LOT of very hopeful people. I recall when Charlie was posting regularly and he had some disdain, I would try to encourage Charlie to go out, meet and talk to the people of Asbury Park. New Bee, you would not
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
In YOUR country? What are we, chopped liver? Yes, Germany was first and Queen Victoria introduced it to the Brits through her German husband Prince Albert, later introduced into the United States, during the Victorian period. However the customs of Christmas evolved, the overcommercialization of one of the Churches most sacred days cannot be overemphasized. For me, Good Friday, is the most sacred of all Holy Days. For God so gave the world, His only begotten Son. Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Easter Sunday, ring true for me, followed by Pentecost. No need to argue over who started what, because like a child, I still believe in Santa Claus or the very idea of him. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting historical perspective about other parts of the world. In my country, a christmas tree has been accepted as a part of the American celebration. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Because they aren't holiday trees. They are Christmas trees. Truth in advertising. There has historically been opposition to the custom of the Christmas tree because of its alleged pagan origins. Thus, Oliver Cromwell preached against the heathen traditions of Christmas carols and decorated trees. As pastor Henry Schwan of Cleveland OH in 1851 decorating what was likely the first Christmas tree in an American church. His parishioners condemned the idea as a Pagan practice. There are various legends regarding the origin of the Christmas tree, often relating to Saint Boniface. Thus, in one version, Boniface disrupted a pagan child sacrifice at an oak tree, flattening the oak with a blow of his fist. A small fir sprang up in place of the oak, which Boniface told the pagans represented Christ.[1] In some accounts, Martin Luther is credited with adding lights and decoration to fir branches traditionally hung from ceilings.[2] Condemnation of the Christmas tree as pagan has been based on a passage in Jeremiah, Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. (Jeremiah 10:2-4, KJV). Christmas traditions in general have often been associated with paganism in 19th century scholarship. Robert Chambers in his 1832 Book of Days notes that the festivities of Christmas originally derived from the Roman Saturnalia , had afterwards been intermingled with the ceremonies observed by the British Druids at the period of winter-solstice, and at a subsequent period became incorporated with the grim mythology of the ancient Saxons. Two popular observances belonging to Christmas are more especially derived from the worship of our pagan ancestorsthe hanging up of the mistletoe and the burning of the Yule log. Regarding the Christmas tree itself, Chambers notes that it seems to be a very ancient custom in Germany, and is probably a remnant of the splendid and fanciful pageants of the middle ages. Other traditions relating to Christmas that may derive from Germanic pagan practices include the Christmas ham, Yule Goat, stuffing stockings, elements of Santa Claus and his nocturnal ride through the sky, and elements of Alpine folklore.[3] There are also some accounts that place the earliest Christmas trees in the Baltic (variously Estonia or Lativa), while in actuality the custom was introduced there in the 1920s. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
...And on the 12th Day of Christmas, the Cajuns and the Creoles, officially roll out that other season; Mardi Gras and culminates on Ash Wednesday! Laissez La Bon Ton Rouler! No fooling! Mardi Gras begins on the 12th Night of Christmas and ends at midnight on Fat Tuesday and all Catholics, hung over or not, go to Mass and received their ashes! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car-Rou- Sel? Shouldn't this be a CITY activity, not a DEVELOPER activity? Happy Festival of Lights, Tommy! Yep, I get it. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 ASBURY PARK Madison Marquette will hold this year's holiday tree lighting at 6 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 30, at the Convention Hall Arcade on the boardwalk. Earlier at 3 p.m. Sunday, a free screening of the 1954 movie White Christmas'' with Bing Crosby will be shown in the Paramount Theatre, followed by a performance of Tim McLoone and the Shirleys outside the arcade from 5 to 6 p.m. Madison Marquette's marketing director, Courtney Johnson, said the boardwalk's holiday bazaar officially starts Friday, Nov. 28, with all stores open from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday through Monday and live performances throughout the month. This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands will be sold in the Carousel and the arcade will feature a concierge greeting booth and a 100 Fabulous Gifts'' shop featuring gifts from all the shops on the boardwalk. For more information, call (732) 897-8810. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
No problem, with it being your country, but our is more collective since, you're speaking to ALL of us, I hope! We're not foreigners, you know. Don't get me started! I hope ALL of you enjoy the Holiday tomorrow in OUR City by the Sea! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: In YOUR country? Yes Sharon this is where I was born and live. Is it not my country? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: My hope for the future of AP
You can say that, again! Great ideas! None farfetched or unachievable, either. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been a pretty great year for our city so far. Crime is down, big time. Lot's of great events, year round. Big improvements to the boardwalk area. For next year, I'd like to see: 1) More attention paid to the west side 2) A more attractive Main Street 3) A move away from a boardwalk dominated by high end retail 4) A serious look at moving the boardwalk area in an entertainment direction. 5) Resolve the fate of the Arthur Pryor bandshell 6) The city take a serious look at resolving people's concerns with the lighting issues 7) The remaining eyesore of the Met Hotel demolished, and the lot made into a park, or dog run As a citizen, I'm going to follow up on an idea that I sent to the AP boardwalk website, and got a favorable response - Making the boardwalk a big, free, WIFI hotspot. I personally think that if this idea were to be properly promoted, it would be yet another attraction for our beach/boardwalk Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hotels and BB's
I like Holiday Express. Great value too! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: How many rooms there are in other towns and what level of supply would be too much. Does anyone have any insight on this topic? dan Enough rooms that owners want to buy more or add on... You can go to AC in the summer and not get a room or get one, but pay out the nose or today, drive down Rt 30 toards the marina disrict - and see rooms from abou $29 sun-thursday... or get free rooms in the hotels or $79 rooms at the casinos... I was in hollywood fl got a room via price at a hyatt place... via priceline cheap. YOu need a mix, a choice. The problem is, you need the land to build it on. Would a 25 story hotel work? That's grand. Would a 100 room family hotel work? Right now having extra hotel rooms is not the problem. That's my thoughts for what it's worth. Throw a holiday express or other simple style hotel and you have alomst the whole shore to draw from - steps to the beach... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stone Pony Closing for Repairs....
Glenn, In defense of Werner, you said a LOT in just a few paragraphs! Funny, Jesus was a victim of His own people, too! This forum, although mainly about Asbury Park, the City's Redevelopment, the starts, stops, C8, one and two, the parking meter fiasco, the Wonder Bar, a successful undertaking, which opened, closed and reopened and on and on. Werner, a gifted and talented individual, with a lot to offer in historical value, gets short shrifted, for a variety of reasons, mainly by 3 people in this group, who never post unless they want to put in a dig or criticism, which NOBODY of conscience, cares for and only divert attention away from REAL issues. By and large, a private individual, super intelligent and knowlegable about the historical aspects of this small city, that a lot of people want to lay claim to. Then there are others, including myself, who get jumped on, if we don't agree or have a different point of view, which in America is allowed by law to agree or disagree, but in this group, it can be almost fatal! The powers that be, will have you harrassed, arrested and jailed, if you don't dance to their particular tune, which now that Obama has been elected, true justice may prevail and the gestapo tactics of officials run amok, will end! There ARE people who agree with everything Werner states! I'm one of them! He is right on point, when he explains WHY the lights for example, are deficient. He explains WHY, the Palace SHOULDN'T have been demolished, JR! It was a LANDMARK! It spoke of what Asbury Park IS/WAS and COULD have been! We WERE a resort, dotted with small and large hotels/motels/inns, etc. A Coney Island, South! When I read posters speaking of frozen custard, hot dogs and lemonade, I think of what I found when I moved here, even after the riots! If the boardwalk had been demolished, I NEVER would have known! As a Catholic, I could never have Madam Marie read my palm, but I wanted her to; just for fun. My kids played miniature golf many times, before it was closed, went to the movies at the Baronet, bowled at Asbury Lanes. Kid stuff! There are some mean spirited people who post in this group, who really need a life anytime they take an innocent like Werner to pick on! Thanks Glenn! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Long before James A. Bradley was even born, Cobblers were crafting shoes and boots for communities when the family of the Cobbler walked barefoot or in less than comfortable footwear. Werner has a personal situation, exacerbated by personal and offical attacks, yet still shares his wisdom for the greater good of the city. Let us recall that those attacks have cost Werner money and esteem. I ask all of you to put yourselves in Werner's shoes and think again. How many of us have actually been forced into a corner without a resource but are still willing to share our knowledge. Not me, well, maybe, I have learned from a great teacher. With a few exceptions that I am aware of, many of Werner's critics on this forum have never met Werner. I have. Werner could win the majority of debates and if he lost, would conceded with grandeur. My best advice to all of you is that if you choose to attack, make certain that your know your opponent well. That man in the scary house might actualy be the guy watching your back! As we watch the economy bundgy jumping, we must realize that any one of us may face the budget that Werner deals with daily. Would any of YOU be willing to take time away from your own situation to attempt to better the situation of those around you? Would you? This is just my opinion, but please try to think out of the box. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Werner has plenty of great ideas, and your attack on him was uncalled for. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, maubddny filecabinet768@ wrote: Werner, Do you honestly think anyone cares about your recomendations? You blow so much hot air that even if you came up with a good idea, nobody would bother to listen to it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The ad with the lighting from 1903...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/ads/intro.htm The ad doesn't show up using Firefox instead of IE. Works fine for me! Using Mozilla 5.0. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stone Pony Closing for Repairs....
I could never understand how a small place could hold a venue for some of the big names there! Acoustics are terrible and makes my ears bleed! I think the entire block should just be the Stone Pony, instead of the closet, it seems to be! Those that think everything in Asbury Park should be torn down and make way for the new, should build around and inside to enlarge the place, THEN, what a draw for the OTHER thing AP is known for, MUSIC! I could see Bruce re-opening the place. Yeah, I could! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/11/stone_pony_closing_for_repairs.\ html http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/11/stone_pony_closing_for_repairs\ .html Will they get a SIDEWALK like the venues that are staying, or will their repairs be torn down for eminent domain? Enquiring minds want to know. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
No, it's not new, I just forgot about it, because I tend to look at the city's website, which is always behind the rest of them. This IS a better website! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: somehow from this link i got to http://theasburyparkboardwalk.com/ ive never seen this site before, but its the best ap site i have seen so far. fun to play on. not sure if its new. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Close Werner. Looked at the MMpdf, then googled MM and found this: http://www.oceanfrontasbury.com/retail_progress_slideshow.htm Slide show and all! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: First link said Page Not Found and the other is not the one. Maybe it was a brochure! I could have sworn it was Madison Marquettes Web page. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Werner, not so long ago, I remember a post where there was a link to MM's website showing a fantasy architectural drawing, of what was to come including a fantasy ferris wheel, as though the Palace had morphed onto the boardwalk. == Sharon, Go here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/files/WernerAPNJ/ Open the picture names MM-Proposal.jpg Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Tunnel Tillie
One word: SCARY --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tunnel Tillie. Tillie without the facial cellulite? Or Tille after Botox? Just received this, labeled Last Stop, Coney Island, from a friend in NY. I posted it here: _AsburyPark: View Photo: Tillie_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/photos/album/701060607/pic/314112031/view?picmode=mode=tnorder=ordinalstart=1 count=20dir=asc) **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
Yes! Didn't you take the trip to Trenton to see his new Arena going up? But nooo! AP wouldn't go with him, as the developer. Everything he built was golden! Trenton still has the same mayor! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: H... Wasn't there a place in AP called The Casino where Ice Skating happened? DUH- Before Fishman (BF) I brought Ron Berman the owner of Ron Berman Development and the owner of a NJ Ice Hockey Team to Asbury Park for an inspection of the Casino. Along came his Planner/Engineer who declared that the building could definitely be saved and restored. The plan was to make it the home base for the Hockey team. Ice skating on the Oceanfront...Fancy that. Well After Fishman (AF) it was declared tha the Casino was beyond salvation..This, by exactly the same Planner/Engineer that a Year earlier had said it could be saved. Had Ron Berman been part of the team the Casino would today be a major attraction. :-( Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
Sure does! Hope that springs, that is! That whole recent episode on Mary Magdalene, continues to make me question, just what is Catholicism and why the hell am I so confused? My faith is one that I never questioned until REAL life set in. Here, in Asbury Park, there were no less than four Catholic Churches, all within walking distance. I moved to Neptune from So. Belmar, where I was a member of St. Rose's Parish. The other other Catholic Church's were those I read about in the newspaper, the Press, which was in Asbury at the time. I first banked at the old Belmar-Wall Bank, on 19th Ave., which was convenient, but to give myself an excuse to come into Asbury Park, I switched to First Merchants in Press Plaza, next to the Press! I lunched at the little Press Box restaurant, so tiny, you needed a crowbar to extract yourself from the 2 booths in there. I was 6 months pregnant and as big as a house! Asbury Park was cleaning up after the riot that had devastated the place. I imagined Asbury Park to be much bigger than it actually was and natives took me around to show me places that used to be the in places to be, at the time. The cleanup is reminiscent of how long it's taking since Katrina. S-l-ooo-w! 30 plus years and counting! Redevelopment has been one huge mess, mismanaged by every administration, since I arrived here, now some 38 years! How's that? I've learned that when money and politics are involved, you'll get a literal tug of war, with everybody taking credit for the pluses and none for the minuses. I was in my late 20's and now I'm in my 60's! A lifetime! I should be pessimistic, but hope springs eternal! Naive? You bet, but I see this generation acting much faster than mine! I hated politics and politicians, because they gum up everything! I've watched over the years, how politics work and it isn't pretty. It's easy to play the blame game, but I wish, just once that something will come of this one. Dare I hope? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/18/2008 10:12:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mary M wasn't a prostitute. = Are you sure you're Right? Lots of wiggle room remains among the scholars. _CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: St. Mary Magdalen_ (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09761a.htm) == In a message dated 11/18/2008 10:12:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not going to argue religion with you either. Hope springs eternal. Thanx **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Parking: Pro and Con ( some Nostalgia)
Mario, If memory serves me right, the only free parking, was at the mauls, as you call them. I've always hated the malls, over downtown, any day. For years, I shopped in Deal, because Pix Shoes, formerly of Main st., here had a store over there and a boutique called the French Connection next door where I bought chic blazers, sweaters and trousers, when I was in my corporate phase of my life. I also shopped in Spring Lake, because they had a discount shoe store there! By now, you should guess I had a foot fetish! I did schlepp up to Woodbridge Center, with the kids to shop at Ohrbach's and Stern's, because THEY were in that I don't want to look like everybody else phase! I hate those kids now, (laughing)! All the hoops they had me jumping through and developing a giant ulcer doing it! The Varsity Jackets, (4), I bought for them, majorette boots for my daughter who was in the band front, from Kislin's in Red Bank and all of the Pop Warner gear I HAD to pay for, Track and Turf shoes from Bob Kislin's in Ocean Twp. I'm shit poor, because of it, but as I've said before, I raised 5 good kids. I spent money like water, back then, but we were in Church every Sunday and Midnight Mass, every Christmas and Easter. Now, I'm a CME Catholic, Christmas, Mother's Day and Easter! I was a big fan of Bamberger's too! Where I got the patience of being a Mother, I'll never know and the pets, the kids just had to have, became MY pets to water, feed and medicate! The Press did a piece on Bobby Braun, former basketball player from 1981. I was at that game in Princeton, with my 5 kids, husband and kids we had with us from Asbury Park, like I had nothing to do! My Darren was a Senior, Glenn was at Stockton and we had advanced tickets. People still talk about those days 27 years ago, about a team that was supposed to lose, won 85-65! You had to be there! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, the most persuasive comments about parking (on both sides of the issue) are below, following my opining. I grew up hearing over and over again that a major reason for the demise of small town shopping centers was the free and ample parking available at the then-new outdoor malls. I think that received wisdom is now called a meme. And then came the even newer enclosed malls, now referred to by some as Mauls and air-conditioned hell. Nostalgia: Fond memories of being taken by the hand as a kid, especially at Christmas time, to Bloomfield Center, downtown Nutley and Belleville; and Newark where Bamberger's Thanksgiving/Christmas Parade was predominantly Bam's employees before it was gobbled up by Macy's Inc. No promotions for movies, schlock TV, twink idols, or kitschy Disney. Red and Green lighted decorations were draped across our main streets with abandon, and no one worried that some drivers might confuse them with the traffic lights. Sigh. When all that disappeared in NJ, my preference was NYC where you could still brave the elements and experience what remained of the Grand Old Department Stores like B. Altman's where long-time clerks knew their merchandise. (City sidewalks, busy sidewalks, In the air there's a feeling of Christmas, And on every street corner you hear Silver bells, silver bells As the shoppers rush home with their treasures, Hear the snow crunch) But I digress. That was Then, This is Now. So, I'm still weighing the strong points below. As a footnote, I still remember admiring the ad hoc entrepreneurship by Oceanport's property owners near Monmouth Race Track. You could park on their lawns, even flower beds, for a few bucks more or less, depending on how close they were to the main gate. I started to calculate how many cars would fit on my property on my Street of Dreams in Asbury Park. In a message dated 11/17/2008 12:10:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Give people every reason to come to AP. We aren't popular enough yet to start challenging their decision to come with parking meters. In a message dated 11/17/2008 3:20:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I learned a long time ago NEVER to be the lowest bidder. What are you saying about yourself? In a message dated 11/17/2008 11:44:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Let People Pay for parking. a) they pay for food. b) they pay for drinks. c) they tip d) they have a good time e) they feel safe, or they wouldn't come f) they feel they have value for their money **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gets stay on Asbury COs
You two are off the hook! Seems as though this subject is regurgitating again! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Then we need to send our City Mgr. to a NY seminar on how they do that up there. They charge a lot for parking. In NY we know that parking is NEVER free. There is ALWAYS a cost for parking. The city has costs to maintain the streets. Certainly that could be eaten if they could charge more tax to the BW pavilions because they are attracting so many people (to spend money) by free parking. But MM wants to have its cake and eat it too. AP had free parking for years. Few came. We charge for parking and droves show up (except for a few cheapskate lawyers). Go figure. Charge for parking. Less parking becomes available. You have to move here so you can walk to beach instead. We allowed magic to happen to multiply the number of liquor licenses in AP so they could make money. Let us have the parking or pay us to keep it free. And sign a redeveloper's agreement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
Dysfunctional? Not just to you, dear. To ALL of us, who love her! I think you are a very intelligent and thoughtful poster, really! You add to the discussion and are genuinely interested in what goes on here. Sorry if I was harsh! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i never should have typed it. i was responding to tommy's wifes joke, which i didn't read as a joke. i didn't get it, still don't. but it sounded to me like the whole world is against asbury park and that is the reason for its struggle. not asbury park. the world, the riots, the economy. now the fault is MM. not ap decision makers. so, if asbury were a person (apparently a pretty dysfunctional one) the reason for its dysfunction is the global economy, MM etc, not AP itself. which sounds to me like something an addict would say. it just sounded like someone placing the responsibility for ap's insane drama on everything else but itself. something republicans criticize individuals for all the time. sorry if it offended anyone. Asbury seems insanely dysfunctional to me right now. That last APP article that Jack posted tipped me over the edge. WTF is up with this place? Is there anyone competent in charge? I just wish I could understand it. I feel like I have a responsibility to try to, but it just doesn't seem worth it sometimes. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: I didn't understand a word, you said! I just realized, that I don't understand street talk or I'm just naive! Come again? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: sorta sounds like something a scamming drug addict would say. just when i was 6 months clean, smack drops in price Your statement would suggest exactly the opposite of what the article suggests. So what, AP is a scamming drug addict? Nice metaphor - not. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
First link said Page Not Found and the other is not the one. Maybe it was a brochure! I could have sworn it was Madison Marquettes Web page. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: Werner, not so long ago, I remember a post where there was a link to MM's website showing a fantasy architectural drawing, of what was to come including a fantasy ferris wheel, as though the Palace had morphed onto the boardwalk. try this one: http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/palace/palace.htm Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Ugliest Buildings In The World
AMEN! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: IF the merchants were so concerned about people paying to park or the developer was, you'd think they print out a couple of signs or wraps around the meters...free parking courtesy of The City of Asbury Park ends March 1 or whatever date and be sure to double the rate from .50 to $1 when it kicks in again. AND ADD FEES TO TICKETMASTER EVENTS... AND A $5.00 PER ROOM TOURIST TAX I'm gonna disagree with you on that, Oak. Right now the American people are getting whooped by Fascist bialouts - (Fascism = socializing business losses through government while keeping profits privatized. It's not Socialism - it's Fascism). Government and business converting your money to their uses with nothing back to you. That's Fascism. Were it socialism, something would at least be coming back to you (redistributing). Maybe Asbury would be better off advertising a bailout backlash or a bailout for people. No beach fees. No parking fees. Half the sales tax (UEZ). No hotel room tax. No tourist taxes whatsoever. Free outdoor concerts. Free entertainment in the green spaces (like Werner once pointed out - jugglers, acrobats, mimes, strongest man in the world types [note: saw a guy in AP with that show when I was a kid], etc.) Asbury Park - where you spend your money on yourself. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
I didn't understand a word, you said! I just realized, that I don't understand street talk or I'm just naive! Come again? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: sorta sounds like something a scamming drug addict would say. just when i was 6 months clean, smack drops in price Your statement would suggest exactly the opposite of what the article suggests. So what, AP is a scamming drug addict? Nice metaphor - not. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
Werner, not so long ago, I remember a post where there was a link to MM's website showing a fantasy architectural drawing, of what was to come including a fantasy ferris wheel, as though the Palace had morphed onto the boardwalk. What happened to that? Anyone? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: sorta sounds like something a scamming drug addict would say. just when i was 6 months clean, smack drops in price do you think any of ap's failures have anything to do with the people that have been making decisions and not making decisions here for the past chunk of decades? don't get me wrong, i don't mind the failures. I am not one of those people who moved here because i thought its gonna be great in a couple of years or because i invested in the place, i was happy to take it as is. but lets be real about its issues. maybe not so easy to do if you have tentacles reaching into the halls of mediocre power, or if you are afraid of being wernerized. = It has certainly been poor leadership and decision making. An unwillingness to consider the 'state of the art' in redevelopment and economic sustainability. Failure to protect public assets and the public's interests. I predicted many of the current problems as far back as 2000. I think part of being wernerized' is that they can not stand that my critiques, commentary and recommendations have been correct. They will never admit to any errors and would rather 'kill the messenger'. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budget's Up!
Outsourcing sucks! Look at the Federal government outsourcing troop support to Black Water, paying them better, arming them better, etc., so the Troops are target practice for Al-Quaida! No, outsourcing is the reason this country is in debt up to it's neck! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a departmental flowchart Soem very good articles about some communities are outsourcing functions - while may appear to be more costly upfront,not so as the contracted employee has been trained and certified in more then one function. As an example, code enforcement or electrical inspector might also do plumbing inspection etc. And I strongly believe tax collections should be done at the county and ideally state level. To me, it's one of most straight fucntions that could be done and a higher/regional level. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jimmy's is the Old Freddie's
My old Parish, St. Katherine's had Bingo on Sunday evenings, followed by Dixieland Jazz! We'd all get up, dance and sing! As I got older, (teens), I hated that music, because it was my Mother's generation music! Me? A rock n roll, freak! From 1954-1963, with the invasion of the Beatles! May Festivals, when Mary was carried through the street and into the Church, with all of the First Communion kids dressed in their white, again. Those were the days! We had TJ's on Wednesday and I had Eggplant Parm. I'm all choked up too! The bad old days are the Good Old Days, now. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: When you were growing up, it was a very nice neighborhood. We spent our 10th Wedding Anniversary at Freddies and Fredas, was right around the corner! Hi Sharon. Friday growing up was Pizza from either Freddies or Fredas. The only comparable pizza I can find now is TJ's on Main Street, which I love. Pizza in Howell sucks. Most of the food in Howell sucks. We drive from Howell to TJ's when we want pizza. Later on Friday nights was the Friday Fish Fry at the Elks on 8th Avenue. A good inexpensive dinner served cafeteria style with all the comraderie of old time Asbury folks. After dinner we retired upstairs to the bocce court or out the bar. I'm getting misty eyed here. Sometimes I feel like I'd give anything to be back home like that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For ........
I have to agree! For I was hungry and you gave me meat! I can't be on the side of people who would turn the poor and homeless out. I also can't tolerate those who make an industry out of it, either. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SUFA taught me something I never expected to learn. Fear of the poor is quite possibly the ugliest human attribute there is. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Brown jerseykev@ wrote: 31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Yes, Indeed! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: It's Official: Help to Homeowners Now Completely Out of Bailout Plans
Tommy, I'm from Missouri; Show me where I said that! I don't really care if you or Jim are for, or against it, so don't print that I am against you. Clearly I'm not! I celebrate Kwanzaa, whether anyone is for or against it. Let's switch to whether the people of Asbury Park are entitled to know what our taxes are being spent on. You know, the Budget? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: why aren't you haranguing the other councilmen about the city's support of kwanzaa or the idiotic refusal to use the word Christmas? Gabbi, why do you and Sharon keep making this mistake? I'M THE ONE THAT SUPPORTS THE CITY'S KWANZAA CELEBRATION! IT'S KEADY WHO DOESN'T Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Mr. Keady's lies (again)
I'm busting my gut, over here! LOL! Asbury Park, do or die! You are too hilarious! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/12/2008 4:18:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I was certain He an his Apostles would not address the issue directly. No need to announce up front that you aren't. Always hoped that I'd be an apostle. Knew that I would make it if I tried. Then when we retire, we can write the Gospels, So they'll still talk about us when we've died. == Cool. Then we can choose another apostle whose successors can pontificate, claim infallibility, and periodically, in the AP Press, declare liberal theology to be a heresy. And those who break the rules will have to wear hairshirts and self-flagellate daily at Press Plaza for 60 days. And if anyone deviates from official dogma, an Inquisition will be held at municipal court. All those found guilty will be burned at the stake on the beach in conjunction with the city's next fireworks celebration. We will demand tithes from all and declare ourselves a tax-exempt entity. We will open a storefront and use RLUIPA against any heathens who try to restrict us to zoning laws. Instead of Bingo, we will play Whack-a-Mole (a modern version of stoning) at the VFW but more frequently online. We will canonize Tillie and Madam Marie and erect statues to them on public property because they are part of our cultural history. **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news more! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol? redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html? ncid=emlcntusdown0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: It's Official: Help to Homeowners Now Completely Out of Bailout Plans
Military retirees, were hoping to use this housing. I had friends living there, while on duty and these places were top shelf and in mint condition! On the Post itself, there are brick homes built in the 30's and 40's, fully rehabilitated and are for officers only, but with the BRAC, the jobs are hopelessly going to Maryland. (Aberdeen Proving Ground). The CECOM building across from the HEX cost millions of dollars, built during the Reagan Administration in 1981 is scheduled for demolishing. Your tax dollars at work! When they close the Fort, I'll have to shop at Ft. Dix or the tiny stores in Lakehurst. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: it's a crime that there's a whole, abandoned community there. Ft. Monmouth also demolished acres of viable housing near Tinton Falls. Makes no sense at all. It made sense. They were fearful what might move in or happen to those units. They were hoping (or are) that they would new homes, offices, parks and SOME affordable homes vs. low income or apartments etc. Not to say some builders are still able to buy land and hold it for later use. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jimmy's is the Old Freddie's
So you lived on Asbury Ave., huh? Year round, JR? When that north wind blows off the ocean, I don't think patrons will want to come down to the boardwalk. I'm probably wrong! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: You are a hypocrite. Buy shades. What a jerk. And stop with your personalizing crap. Jack you call me a jerk and say stop complaining about personalizing in the same sentence. Nice. When you say Buy shades it just shows what selfish, out of touch and inconsiderate person you really are. Not exactly on the issue yet. Asbury Park isn't an airport. It's a seaside town thats more residential then tourism oriented. When the tourists go away after the summer is done, that gives the rest of us, WHO LIVE HERE, 9 months to deal with the lighting. Now you are on the issue. The philosophy of the Redevelopment Plan is for year-round activity, not the seasonal tourism of the past. The airport analogy is relevant. Buy shades - probably the most ridiculous statement you've ever made here. When I lived in AP there was a streetlight on the pole right at my bedroom window, and the Freddie's Pizza sign right under that. I didn't complain to the City or Freddie. I bought a thick shade. Not a black-out shade. Just a normal thick shade did the trick. I put it up in the morning, pulled it down at night. I understood I lived in a small City. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Back to Budgets....
So how is this money spent and by whom, to get the same results? Who is in charge of expediting failure? His/her head should be rolling out of City Hall, or is this part of the status quo? Planned obsolescence? I think if we knew half of what goes on down there, May couldn't come soon enough! When I worked for the City Attorney, I can't print what he thought of some City Workers. Sponge comes to mind. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..here's another classic. http://www.cityofasburypark.com/filestorage/80/178/recreation.pdf study of recreation. In 1986..the city's troubled southwest quardrant...needs include...in over over TWO decadesthe needs remain... So how to save budget money, read the OLD reports instead of spending money on new studies. Nothing changed, so why spend more money to come up with the same solution? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Back to Budgets....
So how is this money spent and by whom, to get the same results? Who is in charge of expediting failure? His/her head should be rolling out of City Hall, or is this part of the status quo? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..here's another classic. http://www.cityofasburypark.com/filestorage/80/178/recreation.pdf study of recreation. In 1986..the city's troubled southwest quardrant...needs include...in over over TWO decadesthe needs remain... So how to save budget money, read the OLD reports instead of spending money on new studies. Nothing changed, so why spend more money to come up with the same solution? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fw: AP police provides security
Who's paying for that? Tinton Falls? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Forwarded Message From: denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 2:22:43 PM Subject: AP police provides security AP mounted police providing security at Jersey Outlets [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Copy of the Budget
I second that! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady james.keady@ wrote: Mr. Deseno, there's a guy with class like him or not. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Jimmy's is the Old Freddie's
When you were growing up, it was a very nice neighborhood. We spent our 10th Wedding Anniversary at Freddies and Fredas, was right around the corner! Well, the building is still there. Freda's became Mishepo's and it's a restaurant, now or was. You could walk to Mt. Carmel! I attended a wedding this past Saturday down in Camden County, at All Saints Church. There's nothing like a Catholic wedding with the Mass. The bridesmaids wore chocolate taffeta dresses, (strapless), with Fall Bouquets. The reception was at Luciens Manor in Berlin, NJ. Beautiful fresh seafood, oysters and clams on the half shell, jumbo shrimp, hot and cold buffet, open bar throughout, sit down dinner, filet mignon and boneless fish. The dessert room was filled with miniature Italian pastries, fresh fruit, hot parfaits. You name it, they had it. A New York style wedding in NJ, (they're from Staten Island). Wish you ALL were there! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: So you lived on Asbury Ave., huh? Year round, JR? Of course year round. My sweet Irish mother is still in the same house. Die hard. Trying to get her to go to a retirement village. She won't budge. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Kwanza, Christmas and the City Budget
Your response begs, what if? That hasn't occurred yet and please, name names! I don't deal in what ifs, just the facts. I don't use anonymous sources in my posts, but you're right. If that imaginary person protests against the City celebrating Kwanzaa on its' dime, my answer will come on election day in May. I will go into the Black Community on the West Side and ask the voters to speak as they spoke on Nov. 4th! The vote speaks volumes! I'm sure there is someone that will replace this person easily! Maybe it'll be ME! As Columbus Day is important to you, Kwanzaa and its' humble significance, is important to me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ wrote: I think you missed the point! July 4th came BEFORE the bottom fell out of our economy! I'll argue this point though, the snowflakes that light up on the utility poles are up now, 2 weeks! Christmas, YES, Kwanzaa, NO? I'll bet there'll be a tree lighting, too! Not a problem! Bradley Beach has a tree, menorah and a Nativity scene. No Kwanzaa anything! I have no idea what Neptune has beside a lit tree. Ocean Township either but in Allenhurst, the same as Bradley Beach. Kwanzaa for me, is a personal celebration. Kwanzaa was a creation to allow African Americans to celebrate the Black Family, where small inexpensive gifts are presented and the 7 principles are focused on. No more, no less! The Kinara sits on my dining room table with 3 red, 3 green and a black candle in the center. Liberation colors. Since we don't know the region of Africa, we were taken from, those colors celebrate the red for our blood, the green is for hope and the black is for our color, created by Marcus Garvey. The Kwanzaa celebration sounds very personal to you Sharon. So important that others should be respectful of it - allow it to you. Allow your community to celebrate with you. We should be tolerant and gentle with that for sure. Now imagine a councilman who is not. Imagine him yelling, veins bulging with hate from the dais, demonizing and demoralizing what you hold dear. Intolerance x 10. Imagine him supporting a non-profit that also says, We will take the accutrements fo Kwanzaa, but we declare the very name of it damaged and damaging, and will not use it. Honestly, would you feel put upon? Would you feel better or worse should the response to your complaints be to minimize you further? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Kwanza, Christmas and the City Budget
Try Home Goods in Neptune, the Christmas Store in Freehold, Pier One, Ocean Township, etc. I bought my blue and white candles from the Christmas Store in Freehold last year, but Home Goods and Pier One have carried them in the past. Call, before you waste gas! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- I just left wegman's. All those christmas trees in the lobby. All those christmas things for sale. Nothing for Hanukkah. We keep it simple. Easy chicken parm dinner. Weg's chicken, Weg's tomato basil sauce (ap related) (.99) and already shredded mozz. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Kwanza, Christmas and the City Budget
Your post made me teary, too! It's a really GREAT group, with a lot of thoroughly intellectual people, who clue me in to the real Asbury Park. I can find something good in anyone! Everyone is redeemable and worth listening to, (most of the time). I don't care if you are a newbie an oldie, a lurker or God forbid, a TROLL. This is a very diverse Yahoo Group and we all bring something to the table. It IS a season of giving. Thank you! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People do love to hate you Tommy, but I think you like it too. simple questions would have avoided the banter, which was pretty funny and gave me a great belly laugh. I think it would have been more fair for you to address the entire council on this at a meeting. You'd never see any of the other councilmen responding here. Keady is no messiah to me, but his continuous efforts at outreach and his attention to transparency are precisely what governments need. As well as the citizens to pay attention. For those of you who love to hate Tommy, and I admit he is a baiter, Tommy is not way off in this if in fact the word Christmas has been somehow banned from city usage. Jews would flip, African Americans would flip and Gay people would flip. PC paranoia can make people lean toward fascism just as the right does. Watch that the oppressee in you is not becoming the oppressor. Get over your tribal self. If you have questioned Columbus day you must tolerate questions of Kwanzaa. Did that guy really do that? I will look it up. If anyone knows this to be untrue please speak. Tommy, human beings are violent creatures. We are getting better all the time and there is no need to deny colonization was ugly. You can still celebrate America and tell a little more of the truth about it. I know it has ugliness AND beauty, just like everyone of us. Jim's suggestion for going over items line by line would, I think force all this energy into something more productive and free from personalizing (which should be called ego baiting). Probably be interesting as well. That way we could actually know what is being spent on these events, if anything. I really did enjoy reading this thread. Tommy and Jim's intelligence and frat boy spats, the gang up on Tommy, Franks funny visuals, Sharon's description of Kwanzaa made me teary, Oakdorf's hilarious interjections and the grunts from jersy john, mike and jack..BTW Jack, Tommy got you on that. Really funny. Much better than anyone else's story. I need to express my genuine affection and gratitude for this community and it is the thankful season. So thank you! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ wrote: It is my culture too. It was probably more the booze than Christianity. --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: From: Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Keady on Kwanza, Christmas and the City Budget To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 6:39 PM Christianity destroyed my Irish culture in Ireland, so... whatever. On Nov 10, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Jersey Shore John wrote: Christmas is German. On Nov 10, 2008, at 5:30 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ ... wrote: Now this is treatment of you, personally? Oy. As an American taking part in the Columbus Day celebration whom Keady calls liars, certainly. He was talking about me. As a Christian listening to a non-profit declare the word Christmas as bad, certainly. It's my identity and culture under attack. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Testing Him Already
They're a hell of a lot better, than the mean-spirited, all for self rich men we had! As far as Colin Powell, he doesn't represent me, racially or otherwise, as our ideologies are exactly opposite, but since Obama WON, everyone wants to claim a piece of him. He claims African-American because it's PC, but his background is West Indian. He's a butt-kisser, than got a rude awakening! A backhand slap from the very people he paid homage to. Now, he, Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al and Farrakhan, ALL want a piece of this quiet, studious and thoughtful husband, father and believer in Democracy for all, not just for some. He even believes in people like you! So much for that! Keep baiting; that's all you're good for! Now, go crawl back in the snake pit you came from! Sorry, I went off Asbury Park. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep the racial thing going Sharon. Start calling people Oreos now. When are you going to come out and just say you hate this country for holding you down? You can't shine their shoes and they aren't good enough for you especially Colin Powell. Where is he in Obama's team? I don't see any change just members of Jimmy Carter and Clinton's re-tread team. More of the same nothing changed here! --- On Fri, 11/7/08, sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: sharon_b283 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Testing Him Already To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 8:19 AM I'm confident that this and other challenges dumped in his lap, by the rogues in the White House for the last 8 years, will be handled with diplomacy. Comments congratulating Obama, from Dubya and Condi, are a day late and a pound short! There's nothing like an educated fool! In the Black community, she's a sellout and a disgrace to all Black Americans. To follow Gen. Powell, was like Clarence Thomas following Thurgood Marshall! Black in skin ONLY! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ ... wrote: http://tinyurl. com/5kkjnc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija?
Get a life! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now how would you respond if someone said Michelle Obama was a pig? The first to scream racist is a racist herself. --- On Thu, 11/6/08, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Madam Marie or Ouija? To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 11:48 AM --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... wrote: We don't loathe them! They're both Dumb and Dumber! She IS a pig wearing lipstick and he's just a PIG! Palin is a woman. Somehow, she made it to the top. Somehow, she can't be a total idiot. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Flexes Political Muscle
You're a piece of work! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope you enjoy this post-election analysis that focuses on Asbury Park. Brim will enjoy it the most. Nice job, Michael. http://tinyurl.com/5dgbt9 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
